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00:00:00 ◼   ► speaking of streaks that I gotta I gotta

00:00:02 ◼   ► run this by it streaks nine-game hitting

00:00:04 ◼   ► streak for Ichiro Suzuki now he used to

00:00:09 ◼   ► play for a different team just stop just

00:00:13 ◼   ► stop already

00:00:15 ◼   ► now i have I already is already have as

00:00:17 ◼   ► much as I can take

00:00:18 ◼   ► I have a question for you I really do

00:00:20 ◼   ► this is Hank into baseball not you know

00:00:24 ◼   ► we used to go because we have a minor

00:00:26 ◼   ► league team right here in tacoma that's

00:00:28 ◼   ► the the rainiers which is the Mariners

00:00:30 ◼   ► form team and we go to those games

00:00:33 ◼   ► frequently when he was little and we get

00:00:37 ◼   ► beyond seats up another you know top of

00:00:40 ◼   ► the top of the road he would just run

00:00:41 ◼   ► around and occasionally watch the

00:00:42 ◼   ► baseball game but then they do fun stuff

00:00:44 ◼   ► like you know you get to run with the

00:00:46 ◼   ► mascot that's right so you go out in the

00:00:48 ◼   ► field you run around with the mascot on

00:00:50 ◼   ► and we got wasted those but we took him

00:00:54 ◼   ► to one mariners game when he got a

00:00:55 ◼   ► little bit older and it was just it was

00:00:57 ◼   ► we wanted to stay for the whole thing

00:00:59 ◼   ► and it was too long and they were

00:01:00 ◼   ► supposed to do that thing where you

00:01:03 ◼   ► don't take him for the number of endings

00:01:05 ◼   ► that they are old in years and we didn't

00:01:08 ◼   ► do that so anyway he he didn't have a

00:01:10 ◼   ► great time at that and then you know I

00:01:13 ◼   ► figured what's the point of pan and

00:01:16 ◼   ► secure also it's not a huge

00:01:18 ◼   ► disappointment to him that that Ichiro

00:01:20 ◼   ► as is gone to the Yankees know and he

00:01:23 ◼   ► and as a matter of fact you'll love this

00:01:24 ◼   ► he is a contrary and so so anytime we

00:01:27 ◼   ► bring up bring up the mariners he sees

00:01:30 ◼   ► in a sense that he wants the mirrors to

00:01:32 ◼   ► lose and and he is divined that ma the

00:01:36 ◼   ► family enemies is the Yankees and so he

00:01:39 ◼   ► he now says to me once the Yankees 2

00:01:41 ◼   ► I like that kid yeah I know I know you

00:01:44 ◼   ► like that and and and then a friend i

00:01:47 ◼   ► have been a badly mismanaged this

00:01:49 ◼   ► because originally i said that you know

00:01:51 ◼   ► I loudly proclaimed that he would be you

00:01:55 ◼   ► know out on the street if he became a

00:01:56 ◼   ► Yankee fan and it of course you know

00:01:58 ◼   ► immediately became a Yankee fan you know

00:02:00 ◼   ► but you know and he's not watching you

00:02:02 ◼   ► know he doesn't want any of it so it's

00:02:04 ◼   ► just it's just to try and raise our iron

00:02:06 ◼   ► which is very good at anyway I'm I'm

00:02:10 ◼   ► happy free throw

00:02:11 ◼   ► yeah because I mean you know I want them

00:02:13 ◼   ► to

00:02:13 ◼   ► you know I mean he you know he got stuck

00:02:16 ◼   ► with a bad deal

00:02:17 ◼   ► yeah and they have Mariners you know

00:02:19 ◼   ► it's a weird team they're always there

00:02:20 ◼   ► always seemed to be up-and-coming but

00:02:22 ◼   ► but never never get it

00:02:24 ◼   ► yeah we had a good run way to get run

00:02:27 ◼   ► for a while and then and now you guys

00:02:29 ◼   ► are stuck in in what it used to be the

00:02:32 ◼   ► AL East it was the toughest division now

00:02:33 ◼   ► it looks like they are west is the

00:02:35 ◼   ► toughest division you got three teams

00:02:36 ◼   ► fighting for playoffs

00:02:39 ◼   ► yeah yeah but not the 14 not the 14 not

00:02:42 ◼   ► the one that I happen to follow

00:02:45 ◼   ► how's the very nice website going good

00:02:48 ◼   ► yeah I'm having fun which is really what

00:02:51 ◼   ► it's all about people got right so

00:02:53 ◼   ► that's all that's all you're in it for

00:02:55 ◼   ► right that's it I'm just in it for the

00:02:56 ◼   ► fun right

00:02:58 ◼   ► do you wanna do you want to talk about

00:03:00 ◼   ► Skyfall a little bit i could talk a

00:03:03 ◼   ► little bit about that I wants a new

00:03:05 ◼   ► trailers

00:03:06 ◼   ► yeah I was um I was married to the new

00:03:09 ◼   ► trailer earlier and a very pretty school

00:03:11 ◼   ► tasteful ceremony not because i love it

00:03:14 ◼   ► looks it looks great i am super super

00:03:18 ◼   ► excited about it because I don't know

00:03:20 ◼   ► how you cannot be I feel like the whole

00:03:21 ◼   ► reboot of the franchise has been good so

00:03:23 ◼   ► far and and ever since I found out about

00:03:26 ◼   ► the backstory behind quantum of solace

00:03:30 ◼   ► which was a letdown after but you know

00:03:32 ◼   ► that you know why it was bad

00:03:34 ◼   ► yeah because it was right but they it

00:03:36 ◼   ► when it was like one of the movies that

00:03:38 ◼   ► was like absolutely at the worst point

00:03:40 ◼   ► for the writers strike because they had

00:03:43 ◼   ► gotten to the point where production had

00:03:45 ◼   ► to start like financially like they've

00:03:47 ◼   ► you know paid all of this cast and crew

00:03:50 ◼   ► and they had locations and it was like

00:03:53 ◼   ► you know like they've passed the point

00:03:55 ◼   ► of no return on shooting but they didn't

00:03:58 ◼   ► really have the script done yet

00:03:59 ◼   ► and then there's a writer's strike and

00:04:01 ◼   ► then they just like made stuff up and i

00:04:05 ◼   ► imagine it I i read something about that

00:04:08 ◼   ► and I can't remember who was the person

00:04:10 ◼   ► who was talking about that problem but

00:04:11 ◼   ► it wasn't actually it was Daniel Craig

00:04:13 ◼   ► actually writing some of yeah they said

00:04:15 ◼   ► that Daniel Craig and the director has

00:04:16 ◼   ► sort of wrote some stuff and in higher

00:04:18 ◼   ► given that

00:04:19 ◼   ► it's actually pretty good yeah I mean

00:04:23 ◼   ► you know when you think okay maybe just

00:04:26 ◼   ► stop doing it but they can't stop doing

00:04:28 ◼   ► now

00:04:29 ◼   ► no it was like any obligations and they

00:04:31 ◼   ► have yeah well aight and i think the

00:04:33 ◼   ► lesson to be learned on that is that

00:04:35 ◼   ► your route you know and I'm sure that if

00:04:37 ◼   ► I got started making a movie yeah you

00:04:40 ◼   ► know what I'd probably put off

00:04:41 ◼   ► finalizing this I'd procrastinate on the

00:04:43 ◼   ► writing or whatever but it's like you

00:04:44 ◼   ► really should have liked the script down

00:04:46 ◼   ► before you you get the idea but they

00:04:49 ◼   ► never do

00:04:50 ◼   ► right i mean you don't want you know who

00:04:51 ◼   ► nobody ever count on a writer strike but

00:04:53 ◼   ► I remember something something to be

00:04:56 ◼   ► said about that but anyway i'm super

00:04:57 ◼   ► excited about it because it's got a

00:04:59 ◼   ► great that's the other thing is that

00:05:00 ◼   ► first James Bond movie i can remember

00:05:01 ◼   ► with like a name brand director at the

00:05:04 ◼   ► helm at least in my lifetime are our

00:05:08 ◼   ► good friend Sam Sam end its mendez

00:05:12 ◼   ► mendis that's a good question we were

00:05:16 ◼   ► notorious for mispronouncing I am are

00:05:20 ◼   ► only 2 i've only just gotten started the

00:05:22 ◼   ► second sentence on this episode but of

00:05:26 ◼   ► American Beauty fame

00:05:27 ◼   ► yeah yeah i think it's going to be a

00:05:31 ◼   ► great movie did the same guy diehl the

00:05:34 ◼   ► previous to know now I forget who

00:05:38 ◼   ► directed the previous two and martin

00:05:41 ◼   ► campbell directed the one the guy who

00:05:44 ◼   ► did goldeneye I was that was set on

00:05:51 ◼   ► owning now you now I gotta look it up

00:05:53 ◼   ► yeah let's see here Marc Forster

00:05:58 ◼   ► director quantum of solace solace solace

00:06:03 ◼   ► yeah solace solace and Martin Kamel AMR

00:06:12 ◼   ► kmo get directed casino royale and

00:06:13 ◼   ► martin campbell did goldeneye which i

00:06:15 ◼   ► think is probably one of the better

00:06:18 ◼   ► what's that guy's name Pierce process

00:06:22 ◼   ► one

00:06:23 ◼   ► yeah it kinda happened i'm actually

00:06:24 ◼   ► speaking of Hank I'm actually trying to

00:06:26 ◼   ► figure out what's a good place to start

00:06:28 ◼   ► him on bond

00:06:30 ◼   ► because he hasn't seen heat we actually

00:06:32 ◼   ► watched a little bit of casino royale he

00:06:34 ◼   ► should have some of them the fun or

00:06:36 ◼   ► fight scenes and he really liked that a

00:06:39 ◼   ► lot

00:06:39 ◼   ► so and I think in pierce brosnan or even

00:06:43 ◼   ► perform Timothy Dalton lemonade on table

00:06:50 ◼   ► hey Dalton right either there i was

00:06:54 ◼   ► thinking either their first movies Jones

00:06:56 ◼   ► index we're getting a place like art the

00:06:58 ◼   ► think the second Timothy Dalton 11 which

00:07:01 ◼   ► almost like oh really

00:07:02 ◼   ► almost put the franchise into the ground

00:07:04 ◼   ► right and i think it's terrible I've I

00:07:06 ◼   ► you know my comment you know when I

00:07:09 ◼   ► talked about it on there with with the

00:07:11 ◼   ► with our old friend and Benjamin was it

00:07:13 ◼   ► just looks like it looks like an epic

00:07:14 ◼   ► production quality wise look like an

00:07:16 ◼   ► episode of the a-team right and which is

00:07:19 ◼   ► not good

00:07:19 ◼   ► the Jonas he looks like the legislature

00:07:22 ◼   ► is too old at that point yeah but Jonas

00:07:24 ◼   ► really liked it because it had it was

00:07:26 ◼   ► kinda high on that the cockamamie action

00:07:28 ◼   ► like yeah you know the one thing I had

00:07:30 ◼   ► going for it was you know you didn't

00:07:32 ◼   ► have to wait too long before the bullets

00:07:34 ◼   ► are flying around and he hasn't seen

00:07:39 ◼   ► them the recent ones that right

00:07:41 ◼   ► no and I don't there are still there's a

00:07:44 ◼   ► little this little yeah I don't even

00:07:46 ◼   ► know i'm not even sure why not because I

00:07:48 ◼   ► think they're pg-13 right they're not

00:07:49 ◼   ► are they are they are pg-13 but that

00:07:51 ◼   ► torture scene

00:07:52 ◼   ► oh yeah that's pretty casino royale

00:07:54 ◼   ► as'll a little rough here it's a little

00:07:57 ◼   ► rough

00:07:58 ◼   ► speaking of bad movies about the about

00:08:01 ◼   ► the these new Apple ads that have

00:08:03 ◼   ► everybody very upset

00:08:07 ◼   ► I mean so they like the one so they

00:08:11 ◼   ► unveiled three new ads and I i guess

00:08:13 ◼   ► that the idea the other thing that ties

00:08:15 ◼   ► them together is there about it at the

00:08:17 ◼   ► Genius apple genius and it's this kid

00:08:20 ◼   ► there's like they've got one guy who's

00:08:22 ◼   ► like you know he's now like the the

00:08:24 ◼   ► prototypical apples genius huh

00:08:28 ◼   ► I I i like the one I think the one is

00:08:31 ◼   ► okay I think the one is bad i think that

00:08:35 ◼   ► the one where the guy buys the the the

00:08:38 ◼   ► other computer yeah I think that's

00:08:40 ◼   ► actually pretty good at you think that's

00:08:42 ◼   ► the good one I do I think that's the

00:08:43 ◼   ► real and which one do you think because

00:08:45 ◼   ► i like i like the one in the airplane

00:08:46 ◼   ► that's the one I think is ok i like the

00:08:49 ◼   ► main one that's that's made a and then I

00:08:51 ◼   ► could I don't know I think they're both

00:08:53 ◼   ► ok I think they're both not bad at all i

00:08:55 ◼   ► don't and only the worthy of creating

00:08:56 ◼   ► the one with the the guy whose wife is

00:08:58 ◼   ► having a baby

00:08:59 ◼   ► this is a pretty bad yes that's a bad

00:09:02 ◼   ► one

00:09:02 ◼   ► it's just that again we mean yes you

00:09:06 ◼   ► said and I think I said the same thing

00:09:09 ◼   ► they're not for us right so what we

00:09:12 ◼   ► think of them is really kind of

00:09:13 ◼   ► irrelevant and I know that can Siegel

00:09:17 ◼   ► who has made some hay by puppy Yves in

00:09:21 ◼   ► the ad industry had worked on Apple's ad

00:09:22 ◼   ► campaigns a decade ago has published a

00:09:25 ◼   ► little self-published a book about what

00:09:27 ◼   ► it was like working with steve jobs and

00:09:28 ◼   ► apple on these ads he was pretty pretty

00:09:31 ◼   ► hard on him and in his and I think the

00:09:34 ◼   ► fundamental part of his argument is ok

00:09:37 ◼   ► so these ads aren't for your typical

00:09:39 ◼   ► aren't for existing users there for new

00:09:41 ◼   ► users but ideally a great ad would work

00:09:44 ◼   ► for both that it would appeal to the new

00:09:46 ◼   ► group and not anger people the way that

00:09:49 ◼   ► these ads of angry people and I think

00:09:51 ◼   ► there's definitely some truth to that if

00:09:52 ◼   ► they were truly great ads sure everybody

00:09:55 ◼   ► would agree they're good ads but i don't

00:09:57 ◼   ► really get the the consternation that

00:10:00 ◼   ► these at cost

00:10:02 ◼   ► yeah i was a little bit surprised that

00:10:04 ◼   ► some people seem to be family opposed to

00:10:08 ◼   ► right and I'm not singing their praises

00:10:09 ◼   ► I don't think I mean I think that best

00:10:11 ◼   ► my my take on them is roughly a

00:10:13 ◼   ► ambivalent but I got a lot of it i got

00:10:17 ◼   ► at most most in a long time

00:10:20 ◼   ► accusations of it

00:10:21 ◼   ► no this is proof that John groupers in

00:10:23 ◼   ► the bag for Apple he even he can't

00:10:25 ◼   ► criticize these awful awful ads but i

00:10:28 ◼   ► cannot get it you know i mean like i

00:10:30 ◼   ► don't know what they want from the I I

00:10:32 ◼   ► mean I my support just because I'm

00:10:33 ◼   ► ambivalent should i turn the dial up to

00:10:35 ◼   ► 11 and and rip them apart i don't

00:10:37 ◼   ► understand that mean I'd have given my

00:10:39 ◼   ► honest take on them

00:10:40 ◼   ► what's interesting is that nobody see we

00:10:42 ◼   ► did not have this reaction to the

00:10:43 ◼   ► celebrity ads know and I don't I wonder

00:10:46 ◼   ► why that is

00:10:48 ◼   ► they're not really any better and I mean

00:10:51 ◼   ► there are better i don't know AI think i

00:10:54 ◼   ► think that by me personally i like the

00:10:55 ◼   ► Mayday add more than any of the

00:10:56 ◼   ► celebrity ads yeah I don't know the

00:10:59 ◼   ► Mayday one isn't bad i don't know that

00:11:02 ◼   ► both not been there just aren't great

00:11:04 ◼   ► I don't know right right but i think

00:11:05 ◼   ► another but neither the celebrity ones

00:11:07 ◼   ► and nobody seemed to really pay

00:11:09 ◼   ► attention to those it was when they

00:11:11 ◼   ► started using the genius that suddenly

00:11:15 ◼   ► and the one thing that underscores all

00:11:17 ◼   ► this and I do think it would be

00:11:19 ◼   ► different the thing that I think the x

00:11:21 ◼   ► factor is that Steve Jobs's is dead and

00:11:24 ◼   ► has been in the ground for a while now

00:11:26 ◼   ► whereas if he had you know stay ahead of

00:11:30 ◼   ► the cancer for another year and we're

00:11:31 ◼   ► still alive today I don't any and they

00:11:34 ◼   ► released the exact same ads I don't

00:11:37 ◼   ► think the criticism would have been

00:11:38 ◼   ► anywhere near what we've seen I think

00:11:42 ◼   ► it's all driven by this see the

00:11:44 ◼   ► company's going downhill flying off a

00:11:47 ◼   ► cliff because steve jobs is dead

00:11:49 ◼   ► yeah and the timing I guess after after

00:11:52 ◼   ► the hugely disappointing quarterly

00:11:53 ◼   ► results us could take out that then you

00:11:59 ◼   ► i think it was you had a good take on

00:12:01 ◼   ► that that it's the headlines were so bad

00:12:05 ◼   ► on the choreography salts because it's

00:12:07 ◼   ► all about Apple's miss that they had to

00:12:09 ◼   ► miss they missed they had a missed first

00:12:11 ◼   ► Miss rare mr. Apple and nobody explains

00:12:14 ◼   ► what it is exactly they're missing right

00:12:16 ◼   ► that the what it is they're missing is

00:12:18 ◼   ► you explain this

00:12:22 ◼   ► they're just missing what the Wall

00:12:24 ◼   ► Street analysts think they were going to

00:12:25 ◼   ► report right that I mean it's there it's

00:12:28 ◼   ► the wall street analyst estimates and

00:12:31 ◼   ► it's like an average of the wall street

00:12:33 ◼   ► analysts estimates

00:12:34 ◼   ► and what they were going to report right

00:12:35 ◼   ► so every quarter i guess every company

00:12:37 ◼   ► does this where the company's says

00:12:39 ◼   ► here's what we hear is our results and

00:12:40 ◼   ► here's what we think we're going to do

00:12:42 ◼   ► in the coming quarter and apple exceeded

00:12:45 ◼   ► its own estimates which are of course

00:12:48 ◼   ► famously low

00:12:49 ◼   ► I mean but it's smart that they always

00:12:51 ◼   ► pick Apple publishes estimates for the

00:12:54 ◼   ► coming quarter that are like we know

00:12:56 ◼   ► this thing we know we can be we can hit

00:12:58 ◼   ► right and then you never know I mean

00:13:00 ◼   ► something get anywhere they could get a

00:13:01 ◼   ► better surprise a bad surprise in the

00:13:03 ◼   ► middle of the quarter and right i mean

00:13:05 ◼   ► that's why they do that right and then

00:13:07 ◼   ► the the analysts look at apple's numbers

00:13:10 ◼   ► and pick numbers higher than that and

00:13:12 ◼   ► say this is what we you know this is

00:13:14 ◼   ► where think we're really going to do and

00:13:15 ◼   ► for four quarters and quarters and

00:13:17 ◼   ► quarters Apple kept beating those

00:13:19 ◼   ► estimates but they're just guesses

00:13:20 ◼   ► they're just guesses from these guys and

00:13:22 ◼   ► some of these guys we all know are very

00:13:24 ◼   ► very dump

00:13:26 ◼   ► I mean they say they're on the record

00:13:28 ◼   ► you could look at my website your web

00:13:29 ◼   ► site you a lot of these guys I for years

00:13:32 ◼   ► and years have a track record of saying

00:13:34 ◼   ► some really really dumb things about

00:13:36 ◼   ► Apple these guys are not that smart some

00:13:38 ◼   ► of them are some of them are very smart

00:13:39 ◼   ► but some of them are not that smart and

00:13:42 ◼   ► they just average them together and

00:13:44 ◼   ► apples numbers that they released a

00:13:45 ◼   ► little bit under what's what these guys

00:13:47 ◼   ► were saying especially on the i think

00:13:49 ◼   ► was the iphone sales in particular

00:13:51 ◼   ► even though they sold 26 million of them

00:13:54 ◼   ► and bottom line they still made like the

00:13:57 ◼   ► most profit and revenue that they've

00:14:00 ◼   ► ever made in a q3 in the company's

00:14:03 ◼   ► history the only top their revenue

00:14:06 ◼   ► estimate by a billion dollars making

00:14:09 ◼   ► some revenue and was whether the revenue

00:14:11 ◼   ► profit can't remember now just a billion

00:14:14 ◼   ► i will say though that the that the

00:14:17 ◼   ► stockton it didn't seem like investors

00:14:19 ◼   ► actually panicked or you know went by

00:14:22 ◼   ► the headlines like yeah i think this i

00:14:25 ◼   ► think the stock dropped the next day but

00:14:27 ◼   ► it dropped by less than the S&P 500 they

00:14:30 ◼   ► actually beat the market the next day I

00:14:33 ◼   ► think you could problem in i think if

00:14:34 ◼   ► you wanted to make money on that you'd

00:14:36 ◼   ► have to do it had to do it in

00:14:38 ◼   ► after-hours trading because it did seem

00:14:40 ◼   ► like after hours and it took a hit and a

00:14:43 ◼   ► course did you know dryly noted as he

00:14:46 ◼   ► often does

00:14:47 ◼   ► that the stock went back to where it was

00:14:50 ◼   ► at levels not seen since jun 29 and I

00:14:59 ◼   ► don't know what Apple has to do with an

00:15:00 ◼   ► ad to make people happy now at this

00:15:02 ◼   ► point I feel like they could do anything

00:15:04 ◼   ► and then people are going to say these

00:15:06 ◼   ► ads think yeah and also i guess i think

00:15:12 ◼   ► i did the the iconic I I mean the thing

00:15:15 ◼   ► that I thought maybe they could have

00:15:16 ◼   ► done better was I didn't know that I

00:15:17 ◼   ► didn't seem to me like picking a genius

00:15:18 ◼   ► was necessarily the right thing to go

00:15:21 ◼   ► with from a sort of iconic corporate

00:15:23 ◼   ► person

00:15:23 ◼   ► no they don't have nooooo i think i

00:15:26 ◼   ► think part of it too is that they wanted

00:15:27 ◼   ► to have some new ads for the Olympics

00:15:29 ◼   ► they don't have new products to announce

00:15:33 ◼   ► yet

00:15:33 ◼   ► yeah I and what did they have that

00:15:37 ◼   ► nobody else has and they've got that's

00:15:40 ◼   ► the apple retail stores

00:15:41 ◼   ► yeah I but I don't even know I don't

00:15:43 ◼   ► think they can't shoot one in an apple

00:15:46 ◼   ► store because that's the I don't know

00:15:47 ◼   ► there's no concept there to have you how

00:15:49 ◼   ► do you pitch the apple stores to people

00:15:52 ◼   ► without showing apple stores are doing

00:15:54 ◼   ► just look out nice our stores look you

00:15:58 ◼   ► know so I think you need a little spooky

00:16:00 ◼   ► story like this i'm not sure that the

00:16:03 ◼   ► premise is that much sillier or worse

00:16:05 ◼   ► than the imac i'm a pc thing that ran

00:16:08 ◼   ► for years

00:16:09 ◼   ► well I just thought that you know as the

00:16:13 ◼   ► face of your company

00:16:14 ◼   ► the two previous big ad campaigns had

00:16:18 ◼   ► the mac itself and then private prior to

00:16:21 ◼   ► that it was Mac users like you right and

00:16:24 ◼   ► then now we're now it's the guy who

00:16:27 ◼   ► helps you with your mac which you know i

00:16:31 ◼   ► think it you know it it says to

00:16:34 ◼   ► potential buyers don't worry about it we

00:16:37 ◼   ► got this guy he can help you out right

00:16:42 ◼   ► I really you know and I just can't you

00:16:44 ◼   ► know it's just so hard to put yourself

00:16:45 ◼   ► in that mindset of somebody who's never

00:16:47 ◼   ► bought an apple computer but is thinking

00:16:50 ◼   ► about it now do not know anybody in here

00:16:56 ◼   ► is your as your families and friends

00:16:58 ◼   ► circle so yeah pretty much

00:17:00 ◼   ► so completely pretty much I had it is

00:17:06 ◼   ► yeah amy amy has a cousin who was with

00:17:09 ◼   ► her cousins have some college-age girls

00:17:11 ◼   ► and and one of them is going off to be a

00:17:16 ◼   ► freshman this year and they wanted I i

00:17:19 ◼   ► think that i think her older sister has

00:17:21 ◼   ► a macbook to though i'm not sure but i

00:17:23 ◼   ► know i know that they used to you know

00:17:25 ◼   ► they used by pcs and that she's getting

00:17:27 ◼   ► a macbook pro two to take the college

00:17:29 ◼   ► and they wanted to know doesn't come

00:17:32 ◼   ► with Wi-Fi and what's up

00:17:36 ◼   ► I you know and that was like the only

00:17:37 ◼   ► question and and then it I you know and

00:17:40 ◼   ► I'm not making fun of my they don't know

00:17:42 ◼   ► yeah i mean i was i there like a serious

00:17:44 ◼   ► question they had like hey this thing

00:17:45 ◼   ► comes with regular Wi-Fi right and it's

00:17:47 ◼   ► like oh yeah definitely

00:17:47 ◼   ► you cannot buy you can't get it without

00:17:49 ◼   ► the Wi-Fi I mean it's you're all set

00:17:51 ◼   ► and did they need like a base station or

00:17:55 ◼   ► something right as i guess it could be

00:17:56 ◼   ► confusing as Apple brands and airport I

00:17:58 ◼   ► mean maybe

00:17:59 ◼   ► yeah they don't know maybe you think

00:18:00 ◼   ► it's something else now I don't think

00:18:02 ◼   ► they do that anymore i think that like

00:18:03 ◼   ► when you go up to the menu and mountains

00:18:05 ◼   ► stations the base stations are but yeah

00:18:07 ◼   ► probably not the yeah I know I just say

00:18:10 ◼   ► yes as Wi-Fi right I'm but now i don't

00:18:15 ◼   ► really have anybody in that mindset but

00:18:17 ◼   ► I guess I you know I guess I know people

00:18:19 ◼   ► like that i guess one of the other dads

00:18:21 ◼   ► who is coaching little league with me

00:18:22 ◼   ► this year is you know it's so hard like

00:18:26 ◼   ► what do you do what did you know and

00:18:27 ◼   ► trying to explain people that is I do

00:18:30 ◼   ► and and you know I guess he googled me

00:18:33 ◼   ► then you know because any seem like he

00:18:35 ◼   ► de he kind of had an idea of what I did

00:18:37 ◼   ► and it was not on any kind of gave me

00:18:39 ◼   ► that you know i'm thinking about getting

00:18:40 ◼   ► getting getting rid of all my crap and

00:18:42 ◼   ► just getting some apple stuff like that

00:18:44 ◼   ► like an android phone and so he did in

00:18:46 ◼   ► fact switch to a iphone during the

00:18:48 ◼   ► season but I think he's going to switch

00:18:50 ◼   ► to a mac to also my account my account

00:18:55 ◼   ► no that's right i've talked about this

00:18:57 ◼   ► my count yeah 3 Dell laptops on this

00:18:59 ◼   ► desk and he hits the ball and says that

00:19:02 ◼   ► that that it takes like 90 seconds after

00:19:05 ◼   ► he opens the lid for the for them to let

00:19:07 ◼   ► him live

00:19:07 ◼   ► in the windows and stuff he has an ipad

00:19:10 ◼   ► now and I think he's you know he loves

00:19:12 ◼   ► it so much that i wouldn't be surprised

00:19:14 ◼   ► if he's he's got macbook probably three

00:19:16 ◼   ► macbooks by next year

00:19:18 ◼   ► yeah Karen's parents still use is her

00:19:20 ◼   ► dad as as a I think it's HP has an older

00:19:25 ◼   ► HP and we left we gave him an ipad we're

00:19:28 ◼   ► back visiting a few weeks back

00:19:31 ◼   ► so I'm trying to I can't emphasize

00:19:34 ◼   ► enough for my account how important the

00:19:35 ◼   ► wake from sleep thing is and I always

00:19:38 ◼   ► not in its you know I'm sure it's one of

00:19:39 ◼   ► those things where if you buy a

00:19:40 ◼   ► brand-new windows laptop brand new

00:19:42 ◼   ► taking home that it wakes from sleep

00:19:44 ◼   ► pretty fast and falls asleep pretty fast

00:19:46 ◼   ► forever but I think it's just one of

00:19:48 ◼   ► those things where I get the impression

00:19:49 ◼   ► from him that you know that Windows is

00:19:51 ◼   ► still windows in that three or four

00:19:53 ◼   ► months after you and the thing that

00:19:54 ◼   ► doesn't it doesn't wake up so fast i get

00:19:56 ◼   ► the same impression from my

00:19:57 ◼   ► father-in-law to know they're just just

00:20:00 ◼   ► over time it just starts to grading and

00:20:03 ◼   ► right it's like Windows is always sort

00:20:06 ◼   ► of been like that like it's it's like

00:20:07 ◼   ► fruit and I think I think I mean that

00:20:10 ◼   ► used to happen with my mac too because I

00:20:12 ◼   ► used to be much more loose about what I

00:20:14 ◼   ► would install and I think I'm more

00:20:18 ◼   ► careful now about making sure that I

00:20:21 ◼   ► don't get a whole bunch of startup items

00:20:22 ◼   ► right yeah and it seems every time I

00:20:25 ◼   ► printer of course the printer soft the

00:20:27 ◼   ► other somehow end up with a some startup

00:20:31 ◼   ► item for the printer which just just

00:20:33 ◼   ► drives me nuts

00:20:35 ◼   ► best thing I ever had one of the best

00:20:37 ◼   ► things that they ever did was the way

00:20:38 ◼   ► they've changed printing with iOS where

00:20:40 ◼   ► your did you are just you the printer

00:20:42 ◼   ► maker are not allowed to install

00:20:43 ◼   ► anything on this device you've just

00:20:45 ◼   ► here's the protocol we support if you

00:20:47 ◼   ► want to be able to if you want people to

00:20:48 ◼   ► be able to print from their iPads to

00:20:50 ◼   ► your printer

00:20:51 ◼   ► it's all on your side yeah you know so

00:20:53 ◼   ► that was it that was a big that was a

00:20:55 ◼   ► big complaint when the ipad came as

00:20:56 ◼   ► people say oh I can't print I was like

00:20:58 ◼   ► man if Apple could kill printing Apple

00:21:00 ◼   ► could just shoot printing in the back of

00:21:01 ◼   ► the head that would be the best thing

00:21:03 ◼   ► you could ever do well in the problem

00:21:05 ◼   ► isn't it's not printing per se it's that

00:21:07 ◼   ► you've always had to install the general

00:21:09 ◼   ► yeah that's always to get a new it's

00:21:12 ◼   ► always a miserable experience right i

00:21:16 ◼   ► remember to in the old days of

00:21:18 ◼   ► installing mac OS 10

00:21:20 ◼   ► when it's I don't even know maybe the

00:21:23 ◼   ► options are still there but it seems

00:21:24 ◼   ► like now with the the lion and mountain

00:21:26 ◼   ► lion you just downloaded from the App

00:21:28 ◼   ► Store you you click a button get your

00:21:30 ◼   ► password you walk away for an hour and

00:21:32 ◼   ► your upgraded and you don't make any

00:21:34 ◼   ► choices you know you don't just know

00:21:36 ◼   ► there's nothing there's like a button is

00:21:38 ◼   ► just one button install but it used to

00:21:40 ◼   ► be that you go through and like check

00:21:41 ◼   ► some stuff you know you'd be like you

00:21:44 ◼   ► want these and other languages and it's

00:21:45 ◼   ► like not you know i mean i just looked

00:21:47 ◼   ► like an alien

00:21:48 ◼   ► you know mainland China I don't need

00:21:51 ◼   ► that stuff so i'll save some megabytes

00:21:53 ◼   ► there and it used to be that you would

00:21:55 ◼   ► show you how big the printer drivers

00:21:56 ◼   ► were and it was like it was like a

00:21:58 ◼   ► gigabyte it was like yeah it would be

00:22:00 ◼   ► like HP printer drivers and it would be

00:22:01 ◼   ► like eight hundred megabytes yeah and

00:22:03 ◼   ► then printer drivers and it's like well

00:22:05 ◼   ► I you know I don't have a canon printer

00:22:08 ◼   ► but maybe someday I'm going to have this

00:22:09 ◼   ► macbook in a room and there's going to

00:22:11 ◼   ► be one and maybe I guess I should

00:22:12 ◼   ► install it i don't know but there were

00:22:13 ◼   ► huge

00:22:14 ◼   ► yeah absolute value

00:22:18 ◼   ► yeah that's a good point in the middle

00:22:20 ◼   ► look at that stuff when i upgraded to

00:22:23 ◼   ► know I don't think they like anywhere

00:22:24 ◼   ► and maybe that's true so after it moving

00:22:31 ◼   ► on we got we got to you know what i

00:22:32 ◼   ► should do a sponsor and I should do this

00:22:34 ◼   ► it's talk about a sponsor's take a break

00:22:36 ◼   ► okay i want to tell you about this it's

00:22:39 ◼   ► a new app social sharing network to

00:22:41 ◼   ► scald Flixel foi x el2 would take a look

00:22:47 ◼   ► at this app i did this looks nice

00:22:50 ◼   ► it's a theta plus i love the picture of

00:22:54 ◼   ► the dog you like the dog on their

00:22:57 ◼   ► website you go to flickr.com you can see

00:22:59 ◼   ► the dogs talking about Fleck so lets you

00:23:02 ◼   ► take they call them cinemagraphs and

00:23:04 ◼   ► they didn't invent this they admit it's

00:23:05 ◼   ► that its new york fashion photographers

00:23:08 ◼   ► kevin burg and Jamie backhoe invented

00:23:10 ◼   ► these things cinemagraph sort of like a

00:23:11 ◼   ► cross between a photograph in an

00:23:14 ◼   ► animated gif you know and the idea is I

00:23:18 ◼   ► don't have a picture without saying

00:23:19 ◼   ► Instagram but it's like you know it's

00:23:21 ◼   ► like an Instagram type thing except

00:23:22 ◼   ► there's motion involved and instead of

00:23:24 ◼   ► really shooting a movie the ideal is

00:23:27 ◼   ► that it's mostly a still photograph but

00:23:29 ◼   ► a little bit of motion

00:23:31 ◼   ► you know maybe it's a waving tree in the

00:23:32 ◼   ► back

00:23:33 ◼   ► and one of the examples they have is a

00:23:35 ◼   ► very funny picture of a dog where the

00:23:37 ◼   ► dog is sort of panting and it's looped

00:23:39 ◼   ► animation so it just seems like this dog

00:23:41 ◼   ► is just sitting there panting that poor

00:23:44 ◼   ► dog needs a drink of water needs a drink

00:23:45 ◼   ► of water and he's never gonna get it

00:23:47 ◼   ► it's you take two little two seconds

00:23:50 ◼   ► scenes and then you paint with your

00:23:52 ◼   ► finger the part of it that you want to

00:23:54 ◼   ► animate and the other part will stay

00:23:56 ◼   ► completely static so you get this you

00:23:58 ◼   ► can get this real neat effect where the

00:24:01 ◼   ► whole thing looks completely static

00:24:03 ◼   ► accept this little bit of motion in the

00:24:05 ◼   ► corner it's kind of a real trick I've

00:24:07 ◼   ► been playing with it and it's kind of

00:24:08 ◼   ► tricky to get a good to second thing

00:24:10 ◼   ► it's a challenge though i really like it

00:24:12 ◼   ► it's got the stuff the filters you can

00:24:14 ◼   ► make it all look old-timey or black and

00:24:16 ◼   ► white stuff like that it's a lot of fun

00:24:18 ◼   ► i think if you have anything because

00:24:23 ◼   ► I've done this with my dog

00:24:24 ◼   ► I have a cut i mean i'm on my tumblr

00:24:26 ◼   ► just I've got a media a few animated

00:24:28 ◼   ► gifs of the of the dog if you have a pet

00:24:32 ◼   ► and and maybe a kid but i think it's a

00:24:35 ◼   ► it's gonna be fun

00:24:37 ◼   ► I it you know the other thing reminds me

00:24:39 ◼   ► of our I don't even know if they have a

00:24:41 ◼   ► name for him but in the harry potter and

00:24:43 ◼   ► the newspapers the way the flow rates in

00:24:44 ◼   ► the newspaper have a bit of animation to

00:24:46 ◼   ► them you know that it's not just a

00:24:48 ◼   ► static image it's that sort of thing I

00:24:50 ◼   ► and it is kinda mess but they say its

00:24:52 ◼   ► memory mesmerizing it kind of is if you

00:24:55 ◼   ► get a good one it's really really fun

00:24:56 ◼   ► it's a free app free app on the App

00:24:59 ◼   ► Store for the iphone i go to flickr.com

00:25:02 ◼   ► and you can find out more they got a

00:25:05 ◼   ► link to the app store but it's free so I

00:25:08 ◼   ► can't even imagine why everybody

00:25:10 ◼   ► listening wouldn't give it a shot

00:25:11 ◼   ► it's definitely a lot of fun to play

00:25:12 ◼   ► with and then one more thing just to tie

00:25:16 ◼   ► this in a broader story and and keep all

00:25:19 ◼   ► of these sponsors of the the talk show

00:25:21 ◼   ► it's one big happy family

00:25:23 ◼   ► it works better when you hold the camera

00:25:26 ◼   ► completely still

00:25:27 ◼   ► so a perfect perfect use for the glyph

00:25:32 ◼   ► the little tripod dingus that sponsored

00:25:34 ◼   ► the the show last episode so if you got

00:25:38 ◼   ► the glyph which you should have done

00:25:39 ◼   ► because they sponsored the show last

00:25:40 ◼   ► week Flixel it works perfectly with the

00:25:43 ◼   ► glyph to help

00:25:44 ◼   ► keep your camera perfectly still when

00:25:46 ◼   ► you set up these little animations so go

00:25:48 ◼   ► check them out at flicks all.com what

00:25:50 ◼   ► people are really supposed to be buying

00:25:51 ◼   ► everything not absolutely yeah yeah

00:25:54 ◼   ► that's why I mean right to collect you

00:25:55 ◼   ► want to collect the whole set you do you

00:25:58 ◼   ► do it you don't want to be left behind

00:25:59 ◼   ► you want to be the guy who missed the

00:26:00 ◼   ► one thing and it's easier it is so much

00:26:03 ◼   ► easier when the app is free

00:26:05 ◼   ► yeah well yeah because you didn't have

00:26:07 ◼   ► to pay tax on that at least not in

00:26:12 ◼   ► Pennsylvania sure you have do you have

00:26:14 ◼   ► states hilton sales oh yeah we gotta

00:26:15 ◼   ► think it's six-and-a-half percent which

00:26:17 ◼   ► sucks i mean i mean just ours is eat or

00:26:20 ◼   ► something it between 8-9 or something

00:26:22 ◼   ► like that I just feel bad for the kids

00:26:24 ◼   ► because I remember when I was in grade

00:26:25 ◼   ► school we had to compute the sales tax

00:26:27 ◼   ► and when I was a kid it was six percent

00:26:29 ◼   ► in which which is the math just doesn't

00:26:31 ◼   ► that good and like why not like five

00:26:33 ◼   ► percent would be a lot easier but

00:26:35 ◼   ► six-and-a-half percent i had that's like

00:26:36 ◼   ► a lot of carrying numbers and I that

00:26:38 ◼   ► just makes me feel bad for the kids to

00:26:39 ◼   ► go to pieces and then the other thing

00:26:43 ◼   ► with six and a half percent you end up

00:26:45 ◼   ► with the IAE got like little Danny and a

00:26:48 ◼   ► half a penny ha'penny you know when's

00:26:50 ◼   ► the last time you saw a penny

00:26:51 ◼   ► yeah don't even get me started on the

00:26:54 ◼   ► pendants heart ya already carry that

00:26:55 ◼   ► stuff around what we got we got we got

00:26:59 ◼   ► Apple v samsung going to going to court

00:27:01 ◼   ► he wearing your suit i am wearing my

00:27:03 ◼   ► suit because we're doing legal analysis

00:27:05 ◼   ► here right and and and by far away it

00:27:10 ◼   ► seems you know a lot of this is you know

00:27:12 ◼   ► the basic story is exactly what you

00:27:13 ◼   ► think apples cases hey these guys ripped

00:27:16 ◼   ► us off and Samsung's case is there's

00:27:20 ◼   ► nothing to rip off its just a black

00:27:22 ◼   ► rectangle and other people had touch

00:27:26 ◼   ► screens so how can we rip them off but I

00:27:31 ◼   ► get the impression reading out of the

00:27:32 ◼   ► coverage so far and we're recording on

00:27:35 ◼   ► Thursday August to that they went to

00:27:37 ◼   ► court I think starting on Monday couple

00:27:39 ◼   ► days ago I get the feeling though that

00:27:42 ◼   ► that Samsung doesn't think this is going

00:27:44 ◼   ► very well for them

00:27:45 ◼   ► yeah I can't tell if it's that

00:27:48 ◼   ► necessarily or if they're just you know

00:27:51 ◼   ► laying the groundwork it's so hard to

00:27:53 ◼   ► tell with this stuff but it because

00:27:54 ◼   ► there's so many it's such a 12

00:27:56 ◼   ► dimensional chess that they are

00:27:58 ◼   ► are just laying the groundwork for an

00:28:00 ◼   ► appeal in case they need to make an

00:28:02 ◼   ► appeal right that but that it makes it

00:28:05 ◼   ► seem though that it's that they're

00:28:07 ◼   ► already thinking they're going to need

00:28:08 ◼   ► to appeal this and so there because they

00:28:11 ◼   ► end the the unusual story is that they

00:28:13 ◼   ► really seem to have anger deliberately

00:28:16 ◼   ► angered the judge where they just

00:28:18 ◼   ► doesn't seem like a good idea

00:28:19 ◼   ► no it really so now yeah if you're

00:28:21 ◼   ► losing the ball game already

00:28:23 ◼   ► you know make you might as well just go

00:28:24 ◼   ► out there and kick dirt on the Empire

00:28:26 ◼   ► and get thrown out because you're losing

00:28:27 ◼   ► right but you don't want to do at the

00:28:29 ◼   ► before the game starts to you know start

00:28:32 ◼   ► complaining to the ump and be like you

00:28:33 ◼   ► know you know you in general you're

00:28:35 ◼   ► pretty crummy Empire before the game

00:28:38 ◼   ► starts you know i mean it just doesn't

00:28:39 ◼   ► seem like you're gonna get a lot of the

00:28:40 ◼   ► it's going to help your help your case

00:28:44 ◼   ► but they wanted to admit some evidence

00:28:48 ◼   ► at the last minute and apples objection

00:28:52 ◼   ► to this which i think is right you know

00:28:54 ◼   ► it seems to me I mean you know what I'm

00:28:56 ◼   ► not really a lawyer I just play one here

00:28:58 ◼   ► on a podcast but the idea was that it

00:29:00 ◼   ► was after the deadline that there's a

00:29:01 ◼   ► deadline for what they call that

00:29:03 ◼   ► discovery whatever the hell they call

00:29:05 ◼   ► yeah there's a deadline where they say

00:29:06 ◼   ► look whenever you want to use as

00:29:08 ◼   ► evidence in the case you have to submit

00:29:09 ◼   ► by this date so that the other side can

00:29:12 ◼   ► take a look at it and prepare a response

00:29:13 ◼   ► or an objection etc which seems fair

00:29:18 ◼   ► you want you know you can't just pull

00:29:20 ◼   ► stuff out of your pocket at the you know

00:29:21 ◼   ► understand and surprise the other side

00:29:24 ◼   ► everybody gets a chance to prepare and

00:29:26 ◼   ► see the other guys evidence before the

00:29:27 ◼   ► case starts in samsung like a day or two

00:29:29 ◼   ► before the trial started said hey we

00:29:31 ◼   ► want to add this stuff Apple is like

00:29:33 ◼   ► what that passed the date and doesn't

00:29:36 ◼   ► really seem like good evidence anyway

00:29:38 ◼   ► right it's this f700 phone that they

00:29:42 ◼   ► made in 2006 that wasn't even a

00:29:45 ◼   ► smartphone and it had a quality pullout

00:29:48 ◼   ► slider it was like twice as thick as an

00:29:50 ◼   ► iphone but if you look at it

00:29:52 ◼   ► top-down you know it it kind of looks

00:29:55 ◼   ► like as a touchscreen smartphone black

00:29:58 ◼   ► when you know if you don't turn it on

00:30:00 ◼   ► and look at it straight down and squint

00:30:03 ◼   ► your eyes and take take your glasses off

00:30:06 ◼   ► it kind of maybe looks a little sort of

00:30:08 ◼   ► like a modern smartphone

00:30:11 ◼   ► it's all sort of look like iphones

00:30:13 ◼   ► wasn't this the one that didn't come out

00:30:16 ◼   ► until wasn't announced until after no it

00:30:19 ◼   ► didn't come out until after and sometime

00:30:21 ◼   ► in 2007 after the ionic been announced

00:30:23 ◼   ► but it really you know and I think nilay

00:30:25 ◼   ► patel at the verge had a story about it

00:30:26 ◼   ► that I link to this week from a year ago

00:30:29 ◼   ► I because Samsung had already been

00:30:32 ◼   ► talking up this phone because it

00:30:33 ◼   ► predated the iphone at least internally

00:30:35 ◼   ► but that it was really nothing once you

00:30:37 ◼   ► really looked at the phone it was

00:30:38 ◼   ► nothing like an iphone or even like a

00:30:40 ◼   ► modern samsung smartphone it wasn't even

00:30:42 ◼   ► a smartphone there were no apps and it

00:30:45 ◼   ► didn't you know the screen that they

00:30:48 ◼   ► show which sort of looks like an array

00:30:50 ◼   ► of icons in a grid which you think wow

00:30:53 ◼   ► that's sort of like an iphone that

00:30:54 ◼   ► wasn't even the home screen that was

00:30:55 ◼   ► just like the settings at the home

00:30:58 ◼   ► screen was more like a menu

00:31:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah like and you know like that

00:31:02 ◼   ► weird like a desktop like thing like

00:31:04 ◼   ► Windows Phone used to have

00:31:06 ◼   ► oh yeah i think was oh I might even been

00:31:08 ◼   ► a Windows Phone device I don't know but

00:31:10 ◼   ► it would look at you know it was nothing

00:31:11 ◼   ► like an iphone and what was the other

00:31:14 ◼   ► thing we wanted to get submitted they

00:31:15 ◼   ► wanted to get this goofy story about

00:31:16 ◼   ► Apple copying sony not because they had

00:31:22 ◼   ► an actual sony device or phone that

00:31:24 ◼   ► looked anything at all like an iPhone

00:31:26 ◼   ► from before the iphone but because

00:31:28 ◼   ► because a Business Week story that

00:31:31 ◼   ► interviewed two designers from Sony

00:31:34 ◼   ► about a new Walkman in two thousand six

00:31:36 ◼   ► or so and and their question was how

00:31:40 ◼   ► much was this thing inspired by the ipod

00:31:42 ◼   ► and the sony guys said something about

00:31:45 ◼   ► rounded corner we like rounded corners

00:31:48 ◼   ► and as few buttons as possible

00:31:50 ◼   ► that's all they said that was their

00:31:51 ◼   ► comment and then internally an apple

00:31:53 ◼   ► somebody simple what you know let's

00:31:55 ◼   ► let's just as an exercise what would a

00:31:57 ◼   ► sony device that adhere to those broad

00:32:00 ◼   ► descriptions look like and an apple in

00:32:04 ◼   ► house made their own sort of what was

00:32:06 ◼   ► Sony device like this look like just

00:32:09 ◼   ► based on the sony aesthetic right based

00:32:11 ◼   ► on the sony aesthetic and you know it

00:32:13 ◼   ► looks like an iphone 4 and he's a couple

00:32:18 ◼   ► of buttons there are a couple of buttons

00:32:20 ◼   ► down at the bottom of the switches

00:32:21 ◼   ► almost and they look just like the

00:32:23 ◼   ► original

00:32:24 ◼   ► and on the very first Walkman right yeah

00:32:27 ◼   ► definitely yeah i think it was all a lie

00:32:30 ◼   ► kamoj to the like 1979 Walkman it

00:32:34 ◼   ► doesn't really seem to help

00:32:35 ◼   ► Samsung's case at all really other than

00:32:37 ◼   ► this broad description of what round

00:32:39 ◼   ► corners and few buttons very strange but

00:32:44 ◼   ► anyway what what the thing that really

00:32:46 ◼   ► this really gets crazy though is that

00:32:47 ◼   ► the judge said no you cannot admit any

00:32:49 ◼   ► of this and so at the end of the day

00:32:51 ◼   ► like day one of the trial samsung PR

00:32:53 ◼   ► took all the slides that they weren't

00:32:55 ◼   ► allowed to put in in front of the jury

00:32:58 ◼   ► release them to the press and in a

00:33:00 ◼   ► statement said that they hope the jury

00:33:02 ◼   ► gets to see them through the press and

00:33:08 ◼   ► what they said they said that it would

00:33:10 ◼   ► be unfair if the jury did not get to see

00:33:12 ◼   ► ya so there's a little place that has a

00:33:14 ◼   ► little bit of a hedging in there but the

00:33:16 ◼   ► implication release clearly seem to be

00:33:18 ◼   ► that we hope the jury sees you know we

00:33:21 ◼   ► weren't allowed to show it to you in

00:33:22 ◼   ► court but we really hope the jury sees

00:33:23 ◼   ► this when they go home and read

00:33:24 ◼   ► techcrunch it is a silicon valley jury

00:33:30 ◼   ► yeah yeah I saw that I saw that in the

00:33:32 ◼   ► delay in the jury selection that there

00:33:34 ◼   ► were a whole bunch of that was yeah that

00:33:37 ◼   ► was pretty funny

00:33:38 ◼   ► I mean they had apple an apple people in

00:33:40 ◼   ► Google people of course in the jury pool

00:33:43 ◼   ► right i also saw that they were asking

00:33:46 ◼   ► them to prospective jurors did a

00:33:49 ◼   ► familiar with patents do they know

00:33:50 ◼   ► anything and there was one guy who has

00:33:52 ◼   ► like it's like 850 patents to it because

00:33:56 ◼   ► it works I don't worry works maybe like

00:33:57 ◼   ► HP or something like that but he's his

00:33:59 ◼   ► name is on like a hundred patents wonder

00:34:03 ◼   ► if they picked them i doubt it like most

00:34:05 ◼   ► of the time they usually try to pick

00:34:06 ◼   ► people who don't know but maybe in

00:34:07 ◼   ► Silicon Valley there's no way around it

00:34:11 ◼   ► might be hard

00:34:12 ◼   ► yeah but anyway that the judge did not

00:34:16 ◼   ► seem happy with with that telephone

00:34:19 ◼   ► Samsung's part well I think it's odd

00:34:21 ◼   ► that they brought that up after

00:34:22 ◼   ► discovery

00:34:24 ◼   ► yeah it seems like the of it sounds like

00:34:27 ◼   ► they already knew about it beforehand

00:34:29 ◼   ► right because they were talking about

00:34:30 ◼   ► last year and and maybe they maybe this

00:34:35 ◼   ► is another attack

00:34:37 ◼   ► dick to to try and cast doubt on the

00:34:41 ◼   ► proceedings

00:34:42 ◼   ► I guess sort of the sort of say okay

00:34:44 ◼   ► we're gonna do we're gonna bring this up

00:34:45 ◼   ► late will try and get in they won't let

00:34:47 ◼   ► us get it in and then we'll throw arms

00:34:49 ◼   ► up and said all things the Sham right

00:34:50 ◼   ► and I've already gotten some email from

00:34:52 ◼   ► people who are you know and you know and

00:34:55 ◼   ► God bless him I feel like I'm doing

00:34:56 ◼   ► something good that they can at least

00:34:58 ◼   ► and to read my site but people who are

00:35:00 ◼   ► on the other side of things and really

00:35:01 ◼   ► are sort of hoping that Apple loses this

00:35:03 ◼   ► case people who are you don't think it

00:35:05 ◼   ► has no marriage people who don't really

00:35:06 ◼   ► like Apple and the one guy has said that

00:35:11 ◼   ► this is you know he's convinced in a

00:35:13 ◼   ► it's just like a statement of fact that

00:35:15 ◼   ► the judges had it in the bag for Apple

00:35:17 ◼   ► all along which I really don't think has

00:35:20 ◼   ► been the case she's actually you know

00:35:22 ◼   ► she seems like she's kind of unhappy

00:35:23 ◼   ► with both sides that they weren't able

00:35:25 ◼   ► to settle right you know it seems like

00:35:26 ◼   ► she's pretty upset that this is even

00:35:28 ◼   ► gone to trial that this should have been

00:35:29 ◼   ► settled before you know they should have

00:35:31 ◼   ► been able to hash out a check that

00:35:34 ◼   ► Samsung could write that that seems to

00:35:35 ◼   ► be our biggest beef yeah I mean she's in

00:35:37 ◼   ► so now they're in the middle of this and

00:35:39 ◼   ► she's she wants it she wanted it that

00:35:42 ◼   ► you want to not to not get to this point

00:35:44 ◼   ► what did i read i just read to this one

00:35:46 ◼   ► thing I'd this is where I just don't get

00:35:47 ◼   ► it is that i read that Apple what Apple

00:35:49 ◼   ► want is they want like 2.8 billion

00:35:51 ◼   ► dollars from Samsung which is you know

00:35:54 ◼   ► that's a lot of money even for Apple

00:35:56 ◼   ► it's a lot of money to you know you

00:35:58 ◼   ► don't you don't just leave 2.8 billion

00:36:00 ◼   ► dollars in the couch cushions but it's

00:36:03 ◼   ► not that much money right they've got

00:36:05 ◼   ► like a hundred and eleven million

00:36:07 ◼   ► billion dollars in the bank they made

00:36:09 ◼   ► 8.8 billion in profit profit last

00:36:12 ◼   ► quarter

00:36:13 ◼   ► I mean an extra 2.8 billion i mean

00:36:15 ◼   ► that's nice i mean if if let's just say

00:36:18 ◼   ► that that day it works out exactly how

00:36:19 ◼   ► apple says it they wanted to that the

00:36:22 ◼   ► jury rules and apples favor

00:36:24 ◼   ► they say give them exactly what Apple

00:36:26 ◼   ► wants two point eight billion dollars

00:36:27 ◼   ► well that's that's nice but is it worth

00:36:29 ◼   ► everything you're going through I'm not

00:36:31 ◼   ► sure I guess so you know how much time I

00:36:35 ◼   ► mean what other lawyers doing anyway

00:36:37 ◼   ► right there lawyer James lawyer during

00:36:39 ◼   ► everyday anyway they might as well be

00:36:42 ◼   ► luring 4 2.8 billion dollars in damages

00:36:45 ◼   ► and is it is it more the point of what

00:36:47 ◼   ► it's less what it's worth to apple and

00:36:49 ◼   ► what it's worth the samsung TV

00:36:50 ◼   ► as you know as Microsoft is doing with

00:36:54 ◼   ► android by trying to sort of killed by a

00:36:57 ◼   ► thousand Knicks right you know just

00:36:59 ◼   ► basically charge it make it cost enough

00:37:02 ◼   ► to produce an android phone where it's

00:37:04 ◼   ► no better than producing a windows right

00:37:08 ◼   ► and maybe it was also about steering

00:37:11 ◼   ► Samsung's future decisions how closely

00:37:13 ◼   ► they're going to try to copy out apple

00:37:15 ◼   ► stuff

00:37:16 ◼   ► yeah going forward in some of the stuff

00:37:19 ◼   ► the Apple presented I mean again you

00:37:20 ◼   ► know I I you know I tend to see stuff i

00:37:23 ◼   ► mean i think apples got a pretty good

00:37:24 ◼   ► case but uh i don't know i think that

00:37:27 ◼   ► the sum of the stuff that they've had in

00:37:30 ◼   ► Apple's evidence that's going in seems

00:37:31 ◼   ► really pretty damning my favorite is

00:37:34 ◼   ► that it's from a samsung internal the

00:37:38 ◼   ► investigation into why there were so

00:37:41 ◼   ► many returns of galaxy tabs at best buys

00:37:44 ◼   ► so they went to the best buy people and

00:37:47 ◼   ► really well one of the reasons people

00:37:48 ◼   ► are returning it and the mother of your

00:37:49 ◼   ► most frequently cited reason for why

00:37:52 ◼   ► people were returning the galaxy tab

00:37:54 ◼   ► John I they thought it was an ipad they

00:37:58 ◼   ► thought it was a night with the really

00:38:01 ◼   ► seems like it's exactly apples argument

00:38:05 ◼   ► all along really does that isn't related

00:38:08 ◼   ► Samsung's own investigation into this it

00:38:11 ◼   ► wasn't like Apple went there and you

00:38:14 ◼   ► know yet you can accuse apple of hiring

00:38:16 ◼   ► pollsters who go into a best buy and

00:38:18 ◼   ► cherry-pick people who might be confused

00:38:20 ◼   ► and user Samsung's own investigation

00:38:22 ◼   ► into what you know why people returning

00:38:24 ◼   ► them and what was the other the other

00:38:26 ◼   ► thing I thought was real damning was

00:38:27 ◼   ► that that the emails from google to them

00:38:30 ◼   ► saying hey this these things looked at

00:38:31 ◼   ► once like ipad you got to change this up

00:38:34 ◼   ► and they didn't change any of it like an

00:38:38 ◼   ► example apples and apples you saw that

00:38:40 ◼   ► HP tablet which the back of it looked

00:38:45 ◼   ► exactly like an iPad yeah i mean it and

00:38:48 ◼   ► they're not really pursuing I mean I

00:38:50 ◼   ► guess they're so they're pursuing some

00:38:51 ◼   ► other like HTC and some other

00:38:53 ◼   ► manufacturers are and motorola yeah hp1

00:38:59 ◼   ► that HP teased in an Olympic commercial

00:39:01 ◼   ► it's like an unannounced product but it

00:39:03 ◼   ► looks a lot like an iPad

00:39:04 ◼   ► where is that was aluminum device with

00:39:06 ◼   ► rounded edges and a black plastic strip

00:39:09 ◼   ► at the top resume rainwear the antennas

00:39:11 ◼   ► are yeah which I'm sure is just the

00:39:14 ◼   ► natural evolution of them of the devices

00:39:16 ◼   ► ring as a call all devices were normally

00:39:19 ◼   ► ended up there it's like the it's like

00:39:21 ◼   ► from something from like star trek into

00:39:24 ◼   ► the next generation where evolution on a

00:39:27 ◼   ► planet always ends up in a humanoid

00:39:29 ◼   ► Muhammad form and I just have different

00:39:33 ◼   ► bumping heads right exactly

00:39:36 ◼   ► for years these guys these guys have

00:39:40 ◼   ► green years

00:39:41 ◼   ► yeah like they're completely different

00:39:43 ◼   ► just an actor it's a chance that we need

00:39:47 ◼   ► to address an actor / the original

00:39:49 ◼   ► Klingon didn't even have the bumpy heads

00:39:51 ◼   ► the reason I just they think goatees

00:39:53 ◼   ► just go to you and then they what they

00:39:57 ◼   ► do they explain that away by saying that

00:39:58 ◼   ► they were like the vehicle yeah the

00:40:02 ◼   ► Klingons didn't want the Federation to

00:40:04 ◼   ► know what they really look like now is

00:40:07 ◼   ► that it was a disease and the only way i

00:40:09 ◼   ► preciate sisters that was just a disease

00:40:11 ◼   ► in the only way to cure the Klingon

00:40:13 ◼   ► population was for a time they had to

00:40:16 ◼   ► inject them with human DNA and so that's

00:40:19 ◼   ► why they look human

00:40:21 ◼   ► I believed I think that's the case yeah

00:40:23 ◼   ► sure somebody in your audience will will

00:40:27 ◼   ► correct me if I'm right they had goatees

00:40:30 ◼   ► yeah it's great

00:40:33 ◼   ► speaking of hundreds of billions of

00:40:37 ◼   ► dollars Andrew Ross Sorkin had a as blog

00:40:40 ◼   ► post on the new york times dealbook blog

00:40:42 ◼   ► with his suggested buying less for Apple

00:40:46 ◼   ► who should Apple acquire and i think i

00:40:49 ◼   ► think the bottom line is it shows just

00:40:51 ◼   ► how honestly I think it's just how hard

00:40:53 ◼   ► it is to spell a hundred to spend that

00:40:55 ◼   ► type of money his ideas were nuanced

00:40:57 ◼   ► that the dragon naturallyspeaking people

00:41:00 ◼   ► which makes a lot of sense to me

00:41:02 ◼   ► I'm actually sort of surprised that

00:41:04 ◼   ► Apple hasn't bought them already and

00:41:05 ◼   ► I'll get back to that in a second but

00:41:08 ◼   ► that's only one to make sense to me

00:41:10 ◼   ► yeah and i think their market cap is

00:41:12 ◼   ► around six billion so figure with a

00:41:14 ◼   ► premium that probably caused Apple maybe

00:41:16 ◼   ► like eight billion

00:41:17 ◼   ► others may be to buy them out on Twitter

00:41:20 ◼   ► steady that's not going to happen path I

00:41:24 ◼   ► mean what lie yeah why

00:41:26 ◼   ► rim and now use your in the silly zone

00:41:29 ◼   ► already right and andrew ross sorkin is

00:41:31 ◼   ► a good writer i think is a good blog

00:41:33 ◼   ► post it's not a bad idea for a post like

00:41:35 ◼   ► who could Apple by but I think once when

00:41:37 ◼   ► the number four is written

00:41:39 ◼   ► yeah I guess it's I mean you really you

00:41:42 ◼   ► have to know what other companies are

00:41:45 ◼   ► out what other smaller companies are out

00:41:47 ◼   ► the right i think there's a there's a

00:41:48 ◼   ► there's an inclination to write about

00:41:51 ◼   ► Apple buying somebody big right because

00:41:54 ◼   ► that sounds sexier and it just doesn't

00:41:58 ◼   ► seem like they're going to do that right

00:42:01 ◼   ► there there BMO is more just going out

00:42:04 ◼   ► and buying smaller strategic you know

00:42:07 ◼   ► smaller companies that have a strategic

00:42:08 ◼   ► asset that they need

00:42:09 ◼   ► yeah they buy technology i can't

00:42:11 ◼   ► remember the last time they bought a

00:42:13 ◼   ► product

00:42:14 ◼   ► yeah I'm I i I'm drawing a complete

00:42:16 ◼   ► blank on that but like they bought a

00:42:18 ◼   ► bunch of napping companies announced

00:42:20 ◼   ► famously like the one company had these

00:42:22 ◼   ► fancy pants 3d maps which now or they're

00:42:25 ◼   ► exactly like the 3d maps we have in ios6

00:42:28 ◼   ► so they bought technology you know they

00:42:33 ◼   ► bought the the system-on-a-chip guys a

00:42:35 ◼   ► couple years ago remember that the

00:42:38 ◼   ► second you company

00:42:40 ◼   ► yeah you know I a year or two before

00:42:43 ◼   ► they started making their own society on

00:42:45 ◼   ► the chips for iOS devices stuff like

00:42:47 ◼   ► that day by technology i can't see them

00:42:48 ◼   ► buying a product you could argue that

00:42:51 ◼   ► nuance you know is more of a technology

00:42:54 ◼   ► than a product I don't know what they

00:42:56 ◼   ► make from Dragon I mean it

00:42:58 ◼   ► they have a six billion dollar market

00:42:59 ◼   ► caps I'm sure they have you know revenue

00:43:01 ◼   ► and profit but they be buying it just

00:43:04 ◼   ► for the speech recognition so i guess

00:43:09 ◼   ► the reason I'm a little i was a little

00:43:10 ◼   ► surprised it didn't buy them at first is

00:43:12 ◼   ► that they seem like they're bet they're

00:43:13 ◼   ► they're complete completely that all of

00:43:17 ◼   ► Siri on nuances speech recognition

00:43:20 ◼   ► presumably because it's you know is the

00:43:23 ◼   ► best they could get right and i think

00:43:25 ◼   ► it's very good but it just seems unusual

00:43:28 ◼   ► me that they would put a whole feature

00:43:30 ◼   ► on top

00:43:30 ◼   ► that technology that they don't know

00:43:34 ◼   ► yeah and what about uh will I forget

00:43:39 ◼   ► what you said about square

00:43:40 ◼   ► well I just don't see why they wouldn't

00:43:41 ◼   ► build it themselves themselves that I

00:43:43 ◼   ► would think like is there anything what

00:43:45 ◼   ► would they be getting from square that

00:43:46 ◼   ► that would put them ahead of just doing

00:43:48 ◼   ► it themselves

00:43:49 ◼   ► I mean presumably with nuance with the

00:43:52 ◼   ► speech recognition the reason they're

00:43:54 ◼   ► not doing it themselves is it's a really

00:43:55 ◼   ► really hard problem that nuance has

00:43:58 ◼   ► already solved really well and that they

00:44:01 ◼   ► couldn't you know they don't have an

00:44:04 ◼   ► in-house means of doing what nuance does

00:44:06 ◼   ► better than new ones so license it

00:44:08 ◼   ► whereas i don't think there's anything

00:44:10 ◼   ► square does that Apple couldn't just do

00:44:12 ◼   ► on its own but on the other hand i

00:44:14 ◼   ► wouldn't be surprised if you found out

00:44:16 ◼   ► if the news came out next month that

00:44:17 ◼   ► apple bought square i wouldn't shock me

00:44:20 ◼   ► at all

00:44:20 ◼   ► I mean because they're very design

00:44:23 ◼   ► oriented company yeah i mean the goofy

00:44:28 ◼   ► little dingus that that you put in the

00:44:29 ◼   ► earphone thing that's I mean that's good

00:44:31 ◼   ► that that's not going to fly at Apple

00:44:33 ◼   ► that time but in terms of whatever

00:44:35 ◼   ► partnerships they've already set up and

00:44:36 ◼   ► retailers around the country that might

00:44:38 ◼   ► help

00:44:39 ◼   ► and then the last one is the last

00:44:41 ◼   ► suggestion with sprint which is just

00:44:42 ◼   ► like right now you're just making sure

00:44:45 ◼   ► you're just making things up right

00:44:46 ◼   ► you're just making things up because I

00:44:49 ◼   ► mean what it means that the swimming it

00:44:53 ◼   ► needed the whole story of the iphone is

00:44:55 ◼   ► that selling more and more as it expands

00:44:58 ◼   ► to more and more carriers that the ideas

00:45:00 ◼   ► that they're expanding more carriers if

00:45:02 ◼   ► apple bought sprint what do you think

00:45:03 ◼   ► verizon and AT&T did they would

00:45:05 ◼   ► immediately stops I mean I think they

00:45:06 ◼   ► would stop selling the iphone yeah i

00:45:08 ◼   ► mean the point is to make is to try and

00:45:09 ◼   ► make the carrier's more relevant to

00:45:12 ◼   ► write instead of going to the carrier

00:45:14 ◼   ► business right

00:45:16 ◼   ► I think presumably long-term I mean

00:45:18 ◼   ► let's say 20 years from now i don't have

00:45:20 ◼   ► I think everybody kind of hopes that

00:45:21 ◼   ► we've got some kind of wireless

00:45:23 ◼   ► networking that doesn't involve these

00:45:24 ◼   ► carriers

00:45:25 ◼   ► you know the one that will move on to

00:45:27 ◼   ► something a big new thing i would rather

00:45:30 ◼   ► you know I think of apples going to

00:45:32 ◼   ► spend ten billion dollars on wireless

00:45:33 ◼   ► networking it would make a lot more

00:45:35 ◼   ► sense to put it into some kind of

00:45:38 ◼   ► next-generation technology with

00:45:40 ◼   ► long-range and stuff like that

00:45:43 ◼   ► in and not by buying a you know ya phone

00:45:45 ◼   ► company in which case they buy some

00:45:47 ◼   ► small company that was starting in that

00:45:49 ◼   ► field right one thing he didn't suggest

00:45:53 ◼   ► and I'm kind of surprised because it's

00:45:55 ◼   ► always what comes up and in fact a lot

00:45:57 ◼   ► of technology companies they do this

00:45:59 ◼   ► microsoft has done this google really

00:46:03 ◼   ► hasn't been yahoo you know certainly has

00:46:05 ◼   ► is buying media companies right like I'm

00:46:11 ◼   ► surprised you didn't said suggest disney

00:46:13 ◼   ► as a target now when I mean don't ya i

00:46:17 ◼   ► guess i just i'm not saying i will never

00:46:19 ◼   ► get his neck but I'm now I know you're

00:46:21 ◼   ► going to just say look if you're gonna

00:46:23 ◼   ► pissed you know 10 20 billion dollars

00:46:25 ◼   ► away on the acquisition why not disney

00:46:28 ◼   ► right i mean they're even if you would

00:46:32 ◼   ► just ignore the fact that Steve Jobs his

00:46:34 ◼   ► family is the single largest shareholder

00:46:36 ◼   ► and that they've you know got an

00:46:38 ◼   ► existing relationship whatever it just

00:46:40 ◼   ► seems like that's what big tech

00:46:41 ◼   ► companies do and they have money hope

00:46:43 ◼   ► burning a hole in your pocket by a movie

00:46:46 ◼   ► studio I don't think that's I mean that

00:46:48 ◼   ► you know it's a terrible idea

00:46:50 ◼   ► that's yeah so so I'm glad he didn't

00:46:54 ◼   ► have it on there right

00:46:55 ◼   ► kodak wonder why didn't say by kodak

00:46:59 ◼   ► kodak yeah the patterns

00:47:01 ◼   ► yeah I think Kodak is one of those ones

00:47:03 ◼   ► that they might end up buying but it's

00:47:05 ◼   ► gonna be after you know it's just a

00:47:07 ◼   ► shell

00:47:08 ◼   ► yeah just it's just a bunch of patents

00:47:09 ◼   ► just about two pieces of paper that's so

00:47:13 ◼   ► sad thing about kodak you know this I i

00:47:16 ◼   ► might be making this up I'm not

00:47:18 ◼   ► wikipedians i'm doing this remember is

00:47:21 ◼   ► because the guy who founded the company

00:47:23 ◼   ► was something something eastman right

00:47:25 ◼   ► yeah I you know where the kodak came

00:47:28 ◼   ► from uh started Houston i think i used

00:47:33 ◼   ► to know this the way I remember is that

00:47:35 ◼   ► he just thought it sounded cool

00:47:36 ◼   ► oh really yeah but maybe I'm wrong maybe

00:47:39 ◼   ► i should i should wikipedia this I like

00:47:43 ◼   ► the sound of that down

00:47:44 ◼   ► it is a cool mist totally makeup yeah

00:47:47 ◼   ► yeah it's a cool name and just there we

00:47:49 ◼   ► go

00:47:50 ◼   ► you're checking John Eastern not see

00:47:54 ◼   ► wikipedia said you know Wikipedia

00:47:56 ◼   ► is you know if it says in wikipedia it's

00:47:58 ◼   ► true the letter K was a favorite of

00:48:02 ◼   ► Eastman's he is quoted as saying it

00:48:04 ◼   ► seems a strong incisive sort of letter

00:48:07 ◼   ► in his mom he and his mother divides the

00:48:09 ◼   ► name kodak with an anagram set eastman

00:48:12 ◼   ► said that there were three principal

00:48:14 ◼   ► concepts he used in creating the name

00:48:15 ◼   ► should be short one cannot mispronounce

00:48:18 ◼   ► it and it could not resemble anything

00:48:21 ◼   ► would be associated with anything but

00:48:23 ◼   ► kodak it's a great name really had yeah

00:48:26 ◼   ► yeah I think it's odd having a favorite

00:48:29 ◼   ► letter but odd for an adult to have a

00:48:32 ◼   ► favorite letter don't have a lot more on

00:48:34 ◼   ► the agent let me do that the second

00:48:36 ◼   ► sponsor right now okay and and I'm gonna

00:48:38 ◼   ► tell you right now i'm going to

00:48:39 ◼   ► mispronouncing your friends at that's

00:48:42 ◼   ► right maybe they see if I get this right

00:48:45 ◼   ► I i botched the last time I said the

00:48:48 ◼   ► last time I said Pixelmator pixel

00:48:50 ◼   ► pixelmon tour that's not it and

00:48:52 ◼   ► everybody wrote in current 60 minute or

00:48:54 ◼   ► its peak soul mater actually do you

00:48:57 ◼   ► think you're overdoing that the first

00:49:00 ◼   ► syllable peak so mater pick something

00:49:05 ◼   ► that is that is also yes there

00:49:07 ◼   ► everybody's favorite independent image

00:49:10 ◼   ► editing app for the mac in the App Store

00:49:14 ◼   ► you can download it you get it right for

00:49:16 ◼   ► you go over to Pixelmator com Pixelmator

00:49:19 ◼   ► like automator that's how I was told to

00:49:21 ◼   ► pronounce it for real and they've got a

00:49:24 ◼   ► new version coming out now it's not out

00:49:26 ◼   ► yet

00:49:27 ◼   ► it's coming out on August ninth but

00:49:29 ◼   ► that's what you guys listening out there

00:49:30 ◼   ► you listeners as you're listening that's

00:49:32 ◼   ► going to be that's going to be the

00:49:34 ◼   ► thursday August ninth version 2.1 coming

00:49:38 ◼   ► out code name cherry and they've got

00:49:40 ◼   ► tons of new stuff in this update its

00:49:42 ◼   ► retina ready

00:49:43 ◼   ► I've looked at it on a map macbook pro

00:49:47 ◼   ► with retina display looks gorgeous looks

00:49:48 ◼   ► amazing built-in support for iCloud so

00:49:52 ◼   ► you know it's got the new man

00:49:54 ◼   ► line style iCloud documents thing they

00:49:58 ◼   ► have a brand-new effects browser I and

00:50:01 ◼   ► they've got some new built-in effects

00:50:04 ◼   ► that are sort of like you know Instagram

00:50:06 ◼   ► style filters and stuff like that you

00:50:08 ◼   ► can apply to your filters but as you

00:50:10 ◼   ► know as you would expect from a serious

00:50:12 ◼   ► appetite Pixelmator a lot more a little

00:50:14 ◼   ► bit less like trying to make it look

00:50:15 ◼   ► like a crumpled old photograph and more

00:50:18 ◼   ► just sort of artistic presets great

00:50:21 ◼   ► stuff for manipulating photos though

00:50:22 ◼   ► what else they have smart alignment

00:50:25 ◼   ► guides very cool stuff great update 2.1

00:50:29 ◼   ► Pixelmator coming out on August ninth if

00:50:34 ◼   ► you're Pixelmator user you gotta get the

00:50:35 ◼   ► update and if you're not a Pixelmator

00:50:37 ◼   ► user shame on you shame on you bought a

00:50:42 ◼   ► macbook air after we got back from WWDC

00:50:44 ◼   ► and was one that was one of the first

00:50:45 ◼   ► steps that I put on it and we started

00:50:47 ◼   ► fresh which I haven't done in years and

00:50:50 ◼   ► so I needed to go back and install just

00:50:53 ◼   ► deliberately install certain apps and

00:50:55 ◼   ► try and leave old junk behind i always

00:50:58 ◼   ► try that one that's always been the

00:50:59 ◼   ► first one is going to do

00:51:00 ◼   ► yeah you gotta have something like you

00:51:02 ◼   ► gotta have Pixelmator I mean this and

00:51:04 ◼   ► you know you just get it right from the

00:51:06 ◼   ► app store there you go it's not like the

00:51:07 ◼   ► adobe stuff for you know of a sudden

00:51:09 ◼   ► you've got seven gigabytes of flash

00:51:12 ◼   ► player stuff sitting in your library

00:51:14 ◼   ► folder installers what else we got here

00:51:17 ◼   ► got a couple of stories isn't news but

00:51:20 ◼   ► it somehow it's it's come up this last

00:51:22 ◼   ► week is the idea that the carriers in

00:51:24 ◼   ► the US and i think around the world i

00:51:26 ◼   ► got some email from a guy who works at a

00:51:27 ◼   ► car phone store and I think Ireland is a

00:51:34 ◼   ► carrier's direct their salespeople they

00:51:37 ◼   ► tell them hey guy comes in and says he

00:51:39 ◼   ► wants a smart phone try to steer him

00:51:41 ◼   ► towards these android things not the

00:51:43 ◼   ► iphone and that's not news but yeah but

00:51:50 ◼   ► I thought that the one story the story

00:51:51 ◼   ► was pretty good with this guy Jeff's

00:51:55 ◼   ► turn one into a verizon store and spent

00:51:57 ◼   ► 40 minutes and he admits he himself is

00:52:00 ◼   ► not a big he you know use the F word he

00:52:03 ◼   ► says I'm certainly not an apple fanboy i

00:52:05 ◼   ► was in your store to buy and

00:52:07 ◼   ► android phone he went in there to buy an

00:52:09 ◼   ► android phone but this is what he heard

00:52:10 ◼   ► these are some quotes he heard from

00:52:12 ◼   ► verizon sales staff to customers they

00:52:15 ◼   ► released the iphone 4s because Steve

00:52:17 ◼   ► Jobs died so they just threw in a couple

00:52:19 ◼   ► more features and pushed it out

00:52:22 ◼   ► that's my favorite that might be my

00:52:24 ◼   ► faith that day could you just imagine

00:52:28 ◼   ► i'd just imagine like it is it was

00:52:31 ◼   ► shouldering ship it will see alert tim

00:52:33 ◼   ► cook and and jony ive and you're like

00:52:37 ◼   ► just so sad about Steve you know what

00:52:40 ◼   ► let's just let's just slap some more

00:52:43 ◼   ► features onto this phone and in his

00:52:46 ◼   ► memory where we'll just just shit out a

00:52:50 ◼   ► new iphone

00:52:51 ◼   ► that's the way that they're gonna i'm at

00:52:57 ◼   ► that's factually incorrect on so many

00:53:00 ◼   ► levels like what is the thought process

00:53:04 ◼   ► there because Steve Jobs died like that

00:53:06 ◼   ► the cause and effects with Steve Jobs

00:53:08 ◼   ► barrier they threw in a couple of monkey

00:53:10 ◼   ► the monkey was off their back and now

00:53:13 ◼   ► they could do what I really wanted to do

00:53:14 ◼   ► apples servers are really small and when

00:53:17 ◼   ► you use Syria normally redirects to

00:53:19 ◼   ► google anyway it's actually not not too

00:53:23 ◼   ► far off the mark I guess every icon

00:53:26 ◼   ► looks like on your homescreen it's

00:53:28 ◼   ► really hard to find applications you

00:53:32 ◼   ► know where only you know where it's even

00:53:33 ◼   ► harder to find applications in the dock

00:53:35 ◼   ► in the android store

00:53:41 ◼   ► yeah I got a I got my wife I'd nexus 7

00:53:45 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah she wanted she wanted

00:53:48 ◼   ► something to read books in bed and I

00:53:51 ◼   ► didn't want something I asked her if she

00:53:53 ◼   ► wanted an ipad and she didn't want

00:53:55 ◼   ► something that big

00:53:56 ◼   ► this is really just using it to read

00:53:57 ◼   ► books and so I was like yeah you know i

00:53:59 ◼   ► get i get the next guy won't try it out

00:54:00 ◼   ► anyway and stoner box and so and you

00:54:06 ◼   ► know and she's only using as an ear ear

00:54:08 ◼   ► right but I you know but I peruse the

00:54:10 ◼   ► google play store and it was really that

00:54:13 ◼   ► was really because Hank wanted to

00:54:16 ◼   ► destroy the weekend we got it we went to

00:54:17 ◼   ► the beach and Hank wanted to try it and

00:54:19 ◼   ► play some games on it and so I tried to

00:54:21 ◼   ► download some some games and i really

00:54:23 ◼   ► had a hard time finding anything that

00:54:26 ◼   ► was that good yeah I'm it does seem like

00:54:28 ◼   ► the best apps are all the ones that are

00:54:29 ◼   ► already built into it like you don't

00:54:32 ◼   ► there's aren't there aren't any third

00:54:33 ◼   ► party apps that are last have yeah and

00:54:36 ◼   ► what else did I heard

00:54:37 ◼   ► oh i just read today Fraser Spears had a

00:54:39 ◼   ► review of the nexus 7 he said yeah the

00:54:42 ◼   ► kindle app is just like the iPhone

00:54:44 ◼   ► Kindle app except font rendering is

00:54:45 ◼   ► worse

00:54:47 ◼   ► that's but it's and I like the form

00:54:48 ◼   ► factor and I think damn freaks at a

00:54:51 ◼   ► piece on macworld about how that makes

00:54:54 ◼   ► the case for a smaller ipad night I kind

00:54:57 ◼   ► of agree with that yeah i think that the

00:55:00 ◼   ► the just I think with it the consensus

00:55:01 ◼   ► that everybody is coming to is that the

00:55:03 ◼   ► 10-inch tablet is is sort of a really

00:55:07 ◼   ► great size for general-purpose mobile

00:55:10 ◼   ► tablet computer but it's too big for it

00:55:14 ◼   ► to use it as an ereader yeah

00:55:16 ◼   ► meaning you're just sitting somewhere

00:55:18 ◼   ► and just holding it in one hand in

00:55:20 ◼   ► reading something really long you know

00:55:22 ◼   ► that it's it's just not really that good

00:55:26 ◼   ► you know that there's a reason why all

00:55:28 ◼   ► the other all the dedicated readers are

00:55:30 ◼   ► more like the six-inch sighs yeah and

00:55:32 ◼   ► the thing I like about i mean the thing

00:55:34 ◼   ► I like about it is that that seven inch

00:55:35 ◼   ► size really fits in you can hold it in

00:55:40 ◼   ► your hand and your fingers can go on

00:55:41 ◼   ► either side of it will release my hand

00:55:43 ◼   ► and I don't think you'll be able to do

00:55:46 ◼   ► that with a 7.8 inch i wonder i do

00:55:50 ◼   ► wonder about that like that's you know

00:55:51 ◼   ► obviously the the

00:55:52 ◼   ► the rampant rumors are that Apple's

00:55:54 ◼   ► smaller ipad is going to be 7.5 inches

00:55:57 ◼   ► yeah and so I wonder if you know I

00:56:01 ◼   ► definitely and I I've linked to it and

00:56:03 ◼   ► and explain it and it in the the math

00:56:05 ◼   ► really does seem even without trying the

00:56:07 ◼   ► math seems really solid that usability

00:56:09 ◼   ► wise it'll be really nice that the apps

00:56:12 ◼   ► won't seem too small to use that the

00:56:14 ◼   ► touch targets will be good if you just

00:56:16 ◼   ► run existing ipad apps at that size but

00:56:20 ◼   ► I do wonder if by making it that big

00:56:22 ◼   ► that they overshoot the it's really nice

00:56:25 ◼   ► to hold in one hand

00:56:27 ◼   ► yeah but I have a theory about that too

00:56:31 ◼   ► and that maybe it's not so much of

00:56:34 ◼   ► thought so I don't didn't built-in

00:56:36 ◼   ► handle in the backyard kickstand

00:56:39 ◼   ► kickstand know it's like a glove

00:56:41 ◼   ► just put it on your backhand like a good

00:56:44 ◼   ► big oven mitt

00:56:46 ◼   ► no I think it might be is it how much of

00:56:49 ◼   ► it is about the size of the ipad as we

00:56:51 ◼   ► know and how much is wait weights but

00:56:53 ◼   ► it's what I think it's be I think it's

00:56:54 ◼   ► mostly wait I think it's mostly wait

00:56:56 ◼   ► because you think you know I mean the

00:56:58 ◼   ► but I don't think it's alway as i do

00:57:01 ◼   ► think it is nice to just be able to get

00:57:02 ◼   ► going to hold it to hold it in your hand

00:57:04 ◼   ► but I I mean for me reading on the ipad

00:57:08 ◼   ► laying on my back or whatever and having

00:57:12 ◼   ► that I mean I would i do I curl up the

00:57:14 ◼   ► smart cover and I hold it by the Smart

00:57:16 ◼   ► Cover I just you know I think the way

00:57:18 ◼   ► you go about designing things you pick a

00:57:20 ◼   ► couple of criteria that you're going to

00:57:22 ◼   ► consider to be your your primary ones

00:57:24 ◼   ► and they're the ones you try to

00:57:25 ◼   ► compromise the least on and then

00:57:27 ◼   ► everything else is where you make these

00:57:28 ◼   ► compromises to meet these goals and it's

00:57:31 ◼   ► a lot better to have a couple of things

00:57:33 ◼   ► that really stand out than to try to

00:57:35 ◼   ► optimize everything and end up with

00:57:37 ◼   ► every aspect of it being mediocre so I

00:57:40 ◼   ► think 11 area where the ipad as we know

00:57:43 ◼   ► it they haven't really optimized for is

00:57:45 ◼   ► wait it's not you know compared to like

00:57:47 ◼   ► a laptop it's not heavy nobody ever said

00:57:49 ◼   ► point this ipad is killing me but it's

00:57:52 ◼   ► it's not a super lightweight device it's

00:57:55 ◼   ► not super thin I have a theory my

00:57:59 ◼   ► thinking is if this ipad mini thing is

00:58:01 ◼   ► true that maybe weight becomes a primary

00:58:04 ◼   ► design goal

00:58:06 ◼   ► and that it's really really thin and so

00:58:08 ◼   ► it comes at the expense of something

00:58:10 ◼   ► like a red you know that's why it

00:58:11 ◼   ► doesn't have a red who doesn't

00:58:12 ◼   ► supposedly have a Retina display because

00:58:15 ◼   ► then it can use a smaller battery so

00:58:19 ◼   ► it's just retina display takes more

00:58:20 ◼   ► battery suit with much smaller battery

00:58:23 ◼   ► it's and then it's then the way the I

00:58:26 ◼   ► the ipod touch is them right just sort

00:58:29 ◼   ► of insanely them

00:58:30 ◼   ► yeah exactly that's exactly I didn't

00:58:32 ◼   ► think of that but I'm going to steal

00:58:33 ◼   ► that it's on it

00:58:34 ◼   ► yeah so in a way that the ipod touch is

00:58:37 ◼   ► remarkably thinner than iphone maybe

00:58:39 ◼   ► this thing the ipad mini is remarkably

00:58:42 ◼   ► thinner than the idea as we know it and

00:58:45 ◼   ► that that's it that's a great selling

00:58:47 ◼   ► point right now it's the one-handed ipad

00:58:51 ◼   ► that's what I'm thinking we should we

00:58:55 ◼   ► should call somebody that Apple it's

00:58:59 ◼   ► that make that happen

00:59:01 ◼   ► anything else I got a few i got a few

00:59:04 ◼   ► things like a what we call my fuse

00:59:06 ◼   ► follow ups

00:59:07 ◼   ► yeah I last week's show with mgc where I

00:59:09 ◼   ► i somehow i forgot the third key to

00:59:14 ◼   ► success on the internet I i mentioned

00:59:17 ◼   ► the coffee i mentioned that sodastream

00:59:19 ◼   ► for making your over carbonated water

00:59:20 ◼   ► forgot to mention that you've got to

00:59:22 ◼   ► have a clicky keyboard seems inexcusable

00:59:25 ◼   ► how does the one that then that's the 1i

00:59:27 ◼   ► don't have which I find you and I got

00:59:30 ◼   ► explains where I am

00:59:31 ◼   ► my wife would love it if I got rid of a

00:59:33 ◼   ► couple of these i'll send one out to

00:59:34 ◼   ► actually do i'm actually just looking

00:59:37 ◼   ► over my shoulder here and I see 336 era

00:59:40 ◼   ► keyboards but the reason I forgot it is

00:59:44 ◼   ► i was actually I was on vacation last

00:59:46 ◼   ► week I recorded that show with mg while

00:59:48 ◼   ► i was on vacation so I didn't have my

00:59:50 ◼   ► clicky keyboard in front of me for I am

00:59:52 ◼   ► out of sight out of mind out of sight

00:59:54 ◼   ► out of mind and without that if i had

00:59:56 ◼   ► the keyboard / remember it

00:59:57 ◼   ► that's why you need to have one

00:59:57 ◼   ► that's why you need to have one

01:00:00 ◼   ► keep it in your mind I think it's the

01:00:02 ◼   ► clicking that reminds you so my

01:00:05 ◼   ► apologies though to anybody who isn't

01:00:06 ◼   ► familiar with my three-step theory to

01:00:10 ◼   ► internet success and it's going to be a

01:00:11 ◼   ► seminar i'm going to take the seminar

01:00:13 ◼   ► around the country this fall and I'm

01:00:15 ◼   ► going to teach you how to make fussy

01:00:16 ◼   ► coffee how to over carbonate your own

01:00:19 ◼   ► water and how to type on the keyboard to

01:00:23 ◼   ► me all day seminar come into a college

01:00:28 ◼   ► campus near you but I my apologies

01:00:30 ◼   ► anybody to listen to last week's show

01:00:32 ◼   ► and thought that you could get away with

01:00:33 ◼   ► just the coffee in the SodaStream that's

01:00:36 ◼   ► never get an explosion when you over

01:00:38 ◼   ► carbonate not yet how many many whistles

01:00:41 ◼   ► you do I idea 30 i do for the form now I

01:00:47 ◼   ► think the gaskets are going bad not

01:00:49 ◼   ► there yet i'm not there the gaskets are

01:00:50 ◼   ► going bad on the ceiling on my well

01:00:53 ◼   ► that's what I would think would happen

01:00:54 ◼   ► yeah and everything through I swear that

01:00:57 ◼   ► the blood-gas condom the plastic tops on

01:00:59 ◼   ► that the bottle caps to get these

01:01:02 ◼   ► reusable bottle comes to put the plastic

01:01:03 ◼   ► tops are getting cracked so many

01:01:05 ◼   ► scandals and I yeah you should listen

01:01:08 ◼   ► one of those lids just gonna come flying

01:01:10 ◼   ► often right when i open when like in the

01:01:12 ◼   ► end of the day that I had made at the

01:01:14 ◼   ► beginning of the day it is sort of like

01:01:15 ◼   ► opening a bottle of champagne

01:01:17 ◼   ► yeah mix it's a very satisfying pop

01:01:20 ◼   ► though that's really what happened your

01:01:21 ◼   ► hand write it shine let me show you off

01:01:25 ◼   ► the ship just sodastream accident so

01:01:28 ◼   ► three max the other one is a technical

01:01:32 ◼   ► and this is actually a good one is i

01:01:34 ◼   ► forgot i actually knew this and I'd

01:01:36 ◼   ► forgotten about it but mg and I last

01:01:37 ◼   ► week we're talking about the gatekeeper

01:01:40 ◼   ► and mountain lion and that with the

01:01:42 ◼   ► default setting you can open an unsigned

01:01:45 ◼   ► app and I've noticed a lot of developers

01:01:49 ◼   ► it seems like you know not talking about

01:01:50 ◼   ► App Store stuff stuff you download

01:01:52 ◼   ► directly from the developers websites

01:01:53 ◼   ► that they a lot of the apps i've been

01:01:55 ◼   ► downloading are already signed with

01:01:58 ◼   ► these free

01:01:59 ◼   ► I don't know a concert tickets to get

01:02:01 ◼   ► from apple yeah but even if you have one

01:02:04 ◼   ► that's not signed you can open it

01:02:08 ◼   ► without changing your gatekeeper

01:02:12 ◼   ► systemwide preferences did you know

01:02:14 ◼   ► about this no you can just do that one

01:02:16 ◼   ► app yeah you control click on the app to

01:02:20 ◼   ► get a contextual menu and then choose

01:02:22 ◼   ► open from the contextual menu and it'll

01:02:24 ◼   ► just open and I the things that one so

01:02:27 ◼   ► just that once we will stick just once

01:02:29 ◼   ► well no no it was just for that one app

01:02:31 ◼   ► and then yeah it the system applies the

01:02:34 ◼   ► I'm gonna forget that the lingo but it

01:02:37 ◼   ► gives it the the credential that says

01:02:40 ◼   ► okay this is a known good app this app

01:02:45 ◼   ► is known to be good so you're alright

01:02:46 ◼   ► which is a great great tip because that

01:02:49 ◼   ► way you can run gatekeeper at the

01:02:51 ◼   ► default more secure setting where it

01:02:54 ◼   ► only runs signed apps in appstore apps

01:02:56 ◼   ► but if you have other apps that aren't

01:02:58 ◼   ► signed you can open them without

01:03:00 ◼   ► diddling the settings you just control

01:03:01 ◼   ► click on it and choose open and I guess

01:03:03 ◼   ► the thinking is that nobody's gonna do

01:03:06 ◼   ► that by accident and it's sort of an

01:03:09 ◼   ► express anybody who knows about this

01:03:11 ◼   ► shortcut anybody who even knows that

01:03:12 ◼   ► contextual menus exist if you've done

01:03:14 ◼   ► this and choose open

01:03:16 ◼   ► ok we trust you you're not you know you

01:03:19 ◼   ► don't need to have your hand help on

01:03:20 ◼   ► this

01:03:21 ◼   ► yeah you have the have the gatekeeper

01:03:23 ◼   ► turned on i have it set to mac app store

01:03:26 ◼   ► and identify developers right now right

01:03:29 ◼   ► i think everybody and especially once

01:03:31 ◼   ► you know about this shortcut is really

01:03:32 ◼   ► you know unless you're for some odd

01:03:34 ◼   ► reason downloading unsigned applications

01:03:36 ◼   ► all day every day you know and it proved

01:03:40 ◼   ► to be an annoyance but I think once you

01:03:43 ◼   ► know about this shortcut there's no

01:03:44 ◼   ► reason for anybody not to run it with

01:03:46 ◼   ► that that's the default setting i think

01:03:47 ◼   ► it's i think it's great

01:03:49 ◼   ► did what Stace the four second is the

01:03:56 ◼   ► second the did you talk about the

01:03:58 ◼   ► September 12 no i didn't

01:04:02 ◼   ► yeah I didn't I don't know what there is

01:04:04 ◼   ► to say about that really but i don't

01:04:06 ◼   ► really have much that either seems get

01:04:08 ◼   ► the ideas i I'm or the guy that I

01:04:10 ◼   ► morning if they've actually gotten a lot

01:04:11 ◼   ► of scoops lately they've been doing some

01:04:13 ◼   ► good work we are

01:04:14 ◼   ► what's your friend's name their Rene

01:04:17 ◼   ► Rene Ritchie and he said he's got some

01:04:19 ◼   ► good sources but anyway he reported that

01:04:21 ◼   ► Apple is going to have another

01:04:22 ◼   ► sent on the 12 sep tember it's a

01:04:25 ◼   ► wednesday make sense like Wednesday's in

01:04:29 ◼   ► Tuesday's 12 sep tember and they're

01:04:31 ◼   ► going to announce the new iphone and the

01:04:34 ◼   ► ipad mini that's what he says and then

01:04:37 ◼   ► Jim Dalrymple gave it a yep he gave the

01:04:40 ◼   ► i-phone part

01:04:42 ◼   ► yep mmm he did not pull I don't know if

01:04:45 ◼   ► that was intentional or not but he

01:04:47 ◼   ► pulled the the part about the iphone and

01:04:50 ◼   ► said yet

01:04:51 ◼   ► yep after the close reading of ya down

01:04:53 ◼   ► rules

01:04:54 ◼   ► oh yes you have this is you know I'm a

01:04:56 ◼   ► professional and you have to pay

01:04:59 ◼   ► attention

01:05:00 ◼   ► I i have nothing two to add on that I

01:05:03 ◼   ► know nothing i well i know a lot but I

01:05:05 ◼   ► don't know anything about any events

01:05:06 ◼   ► sounds right to me

01:05:08 ◼   ► well some and then today some Wall

01:05:11 ◼   ► Street analysts said I think it was shot

01:05:13 ◼   ► while but i'm not positive said oh no

01:05:15 ◼   ► but I've heard from parts suppliers

01:05:17 ◼   ► they're not shipping parts until the

01:05:19 ◼   ► late September

01:05:20 ◼   ► I don't know but yeah I don't I don't I

01:05:23 ◼   ► don't take anything I think the I more

01:05:25 ◼   ► story was an announcement September 12th

01:05:27 ◼   ► goes on sale nine days later which also

01:05:30 ◼   ► makes sense because Apple tend to not

01:05:33 ◼   ► you know release products on fridays

01:05:34 ◼   ► yeah and i think in theory in general if

01:05:41 ◼   ► they're ready assuming everything is

01:05:42 ◼   ► actually ready to go

01:05:43 ◼   ► I just makes sense to me that apple

01:05:45 ◼   ► would prefer to do it mid-september than

01:05:47 ◼   ► mid-october

01:05:48 ◼   ► yeah we think so right you get much more

01:05:50 ◼   ► time before Christmas right more time

01:05:52 ◼   ► before Christmas everything you know

01:05:54 ◼   ► october bizarrely is already a big

01:05:56 ◼   ► Christmas buying month so yeah I don't

01:05:58 ◼   ► know yeah I'm sure that you're not

01:06:01 ◼   ► you're not running out in October buying

01:06:04 ◼   ► Christmas presents and i know that i am

01:06:05 ◼   ► NOT gotta know what is CI is so sits

01:06:10 ◼   ► just sick i think i was a you know where

01:06:14 ◼   ► it came up but i know is talking to our

01:06:16 ◼   ► friend pocket fascist of rogue amoeba

01:06:18 ◼   ► Fame about it and it was literally it

01:06:21 ◼   ► was the beginning of june it was the

01:06:23 ◼   ► beginning of june not even the end of

01:06:24 ◼   ► june beginning of june and there was a

01:06:28 ◼   ► back-to-school sale back to school

01:06:31 ◼   ► I mean I mean that's my kid wasn't even

01:06:33 ◼   ► out of school yet and as a kid that

01:06:35 ◼   ► would make me angry

01:06:36 ◼   ► all in all but it there any time because

01:06:38 ◼   ► anytime you know you're going through

01:06:39 ◼   ► summer and anytime you see that the back

01:06:41 ◼   ► to school special you know that

01:06:43 ◼   ► commercials come on ours forever just

01:06:45 ◼   ► drive me

01:06:46 ◼   ► Oh God by getting a piece of dogshit

01:06:49 ◼   ► your newspaper exactly always horrible

01:06:51 ◼   ► you just get your looking for like the

01:06:52 ◼   ► funny pages of the sports yeah and then

01:06:54 ◼   ► there's a circular and then Thomas says

01:06:56 ◼   ► hey you're going back to school in a

01:06:58 ◼   ► couple weeks and there's a queue a

01:06:59 ◼   ► picture of a twelve-year-old boy wearing

01:07:01 ◼   ► a brand-new pair of stiff jeans my god

01:07:06 ◼   ► it's just horrible with that now you

01:07:10 ◼   ► know with that you know kid who's a 12

01:07:12 ◼   ► year old model for department store

01:07:15 ◼   ► circulars smile on his face I guess that

01:07:17 ◼   ► I guess that like like the Apple ads

01:07:21 ◼   ► though is not for the kids

01:07:23 ◼   ► no it's for the it's for the parents and

01:07:26 ◼   ► the parents are thinking the opposite

01:07:28 ◼   ► they're thinking

01:07:29 ◼   ► good god I can't wait for this kid to go

01:07:31 ◼   ► back to school let's go get him

01:07:32 ◼   ► something we're gonna get you some jeans

01:07:35 ◼   ► today Jimmy what it's like a month and I

01:07:42 ◼   ► have a gun and you know they're buying a

01:07:44 ◼   ► different size 2 and Jimmy I'm Jimmy

01:07:46 ◼   ► will be a different sockets but it's

01:07:47 ◼   ► only goes to school right and it's like

01:07:49 ◼   ► a by that you gotta be heard that is

01:07:50 ◼   ► where it is wearing flood pants

01:07:52 ◼   ► ok pero getting his ass kicked all right

01:07:57 ◼   ► I'm where I I say we call it a show

01:07:59 ◼   ► alright I'm i think we have to do we hid

01:08:01 ◼   ► it under an hour

01:08:02 ◼   ► I think we might have if we do we win a

01:08:04 ◼   ► prize if we get the show prize so keep

01:08:08 ◼   ► your eye on the mailbox

01:08:09 ◼   ► I don't think John Smoltz thanks for

01:08:11 ◼   ► being here very nice website dotnet is

01:08:15 ◼   ► that right is that does correct

01:08:17 ◼   ► it's both actually it's calm and done

01:08:19 ◼   ► thank god

01:08:20 ◼   ► very nice very nice