00:00:00 ◼ ► We have the real me if you want to be the role I don't know I'm being original trying to tell you my Al story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/0">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► but if you're out you know like by now says ones that look really like they look like I look mean and weird. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/7">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► Yeah beautiful but they're also quite mean and weird looking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► and I know exactly what you mean I was home one day alone at my old house and I was in the kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/18">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► and standing in the dining room at night was one of those bands like just looking at me like in the house in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/26">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► and to this day I don't know how I got in I think it musta come down the chimney but like it looked properly mane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/35">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► and it didn't look happy to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► and I was like What am I going to do so I kind of went towards it it's something I don't remember what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/43">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► but it completely spoke to it and just out of flying around the house it flew into my office and was going crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► and then it flew at Louie Louie my dog. Who is the least braved OK Steve Doakes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/54">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► Jesus she's a very sweet dog but she is not a guard dog she was terrified. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/61">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► So anyway like I had I took her away and locked her in a room and continued my pursuit of this very scared Al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/66">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► and it kind of eventually kind of cornered itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► And like I got this big blanket and I went to throw it on the air and because I was a bit a bit nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/78">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► and being a bit wary I like didn't throw a fire and I found it like social. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► Yeah and I think by this point the bird was just like sick of it and it just likes it basically looked me in the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/89">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► and said look I think you're going to have to do that again and I slaved over and picked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/95">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► and threw a second time and this resigned itself and like then I picked up the Allen side a blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► and took it outside and threw it in the air flew away to tell you gosh I was excited. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/105">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► I kind of that kind of exciting stuff doesn't happen to open to others like us very often. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► No it doesn't but I would be. Concerned about that big barn owl because those things have claws that are no joke. Amen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/116">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► and there was a barn owl in my house I might just try to make sure all the windows were open and then just wait. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/131">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► Just think OK you will eventually. Now you can you can put your head in the sand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/138">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► Why oh why couldn't I have them thinking about the current the current house that I'm in now there's a door that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/145">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► divides the flat basically into two sections. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/151">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► And so whatever section the owl was in I would just make sure the windows were open in that section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► and then close the door and just spend my time in the other section. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► It's going it's going to leave there's nothing to eat in the flat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► If you could go for days without food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► but I just I can't do it just for the same reason that I think it's a wild animal stumbled across me in the woods the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/170">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► wild animal could reasonably think well this is not a creature who belongs in the forest I'm sure if we just wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/179">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► leave and go back into that indoor environment where he lives. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► I would look at the owl and think the same thing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► but I wouldn't think that if you were like in its nest then it would be hang on a second I'm going to take action here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/192">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► Yeah but it's not as it should I would wait for the owl is the bottom line those talons are are big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/200">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► and scary we're not talking about that like a little screech owl. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► Those I mean if a little screech owl that's different I would figure OK with a blanket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► I would be much more concerned about injuring the screech owl a barn owl is I mean nothing that big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► I don't I didn't oh well but I think it was the right course of action I think locking in a room with a window open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/218">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► and hoping for the best was not there was no way I should have been done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► I like you I really hope destiny doesn't listen to this now manly country bumpkin friend I think probably he probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/228">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► wrestles ALS every morning just for exercise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Destin is an amazing human being and definitely a very manly guy he would have known what to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/240">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► He would but I almost think that destine he wouldn't have to wrestle with the hour. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/247">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► He would just know some barn owl whistle that he could make and it would fly fly over land on his arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/252">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► and then he would just roll with it outside and release bird and it would it would often go and slow motion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/258">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► Exactly that is what would happen if you had an owl in his house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► We forgot last week our Like most important announcement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► Well I feel like I forgot I feel like my one job is to remember a few things and because I don't have check lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/276">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► and that is that is a very exciting expansion of the hello Internet empire. Yes Empire indeed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/284">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► The hello internet pod cast is now on You Tube as I mentioned in my announcement video on my own channel not only is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/292">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► on You Tube It is on You Tube with stunning H.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► Visuals of things you can just order one huge if you go to have a video to go with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► There are plenty of park at the Just use of the logo but I thought that's not that's not the way that we should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/309">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and you have provided some excellent footage for the first two with a couple of toys that people can go see on the You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/314">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► I do have to say I was kind of baffled because in a number of the comments I saw people wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/324">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► when we just put the first one up which is the very famous drinking bird in physics you have a video explaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/331">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► how the how the the stringing bird works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► It's everybody knows that it's the bringing bread from the episode of The Simpsons that was during the nuclear power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► station for a little while anyway. People saw people sleeping in the Commons wondering if this was if this was mine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/342">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► If I owned this thing and I found it kind of baffling that anybody could could listen to the show and also think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/351">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► That I would own such an object and also you are clearly the video guy. So just for the record here people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/360">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► Brady is filming these things and I presume that you're keeping them somewhere in your house on the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/367">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► and I am I am keeping a little show of Net To be fair I didn't write it thinking dipping bird thing either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/373">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► I am buying these things for the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► but because they are becoming Internet famous I am now keeping them honest shelf as each one appears in one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/383">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► and I'm hoping to have like a show full of all the styles some stage maybe will have a big bike in a charity auction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/391">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► or like a private commercial auction want one of the you know be able to just like give them to really rich people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► maybe Bill Gates will make is enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► Yeah now that I didn't duck that was in the hello internet podcast thing yes you can put a shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/406">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► and the house I expect to see a shelf in the house then if I come and visit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► Try to have a lot of shelf space in my office at the moment some more official space I have are asking if you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/415">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► empty shelf space you don't need it you need to fill it with things you can't just leave it empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/421">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► Well you do know and what we have to this is no episode I think this is thirteen today that we're recording this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/427">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► and even though so that is eventually going to be at least thirteen objects we're committed to season two so relieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/434">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► twenty objects and I can reuse any toy that has to be a new toy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► Yes Yes We don't want to reuse stuff that's just leaving. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► So are you planning on trying to visualize how the shelf space is going to go with twenty objects. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/449">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► I think I should I'm going to start trying to find and suggest unusually large toys for you to film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/456">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► OK try to find a think of the biggest thing that is also reasonable to film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/464">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► and acquire awkwardly sit on your shelf for anyone who hasn't actually seen the videos you know obviously this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/468">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► this is just the pod cast. But this is key. Ten us however long the pod cast is video of this toy just doing its thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/477">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► So it's like a dipping duck for like nearly an hour and it won't surprise you to know gray that in my past actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► when I used to work at a newspaper in Australia I did start a little collection of little desk toys like little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/491">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► things I could turn around and things like that and I don't know why did I just I just had them there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/498">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► and it became a real a real feature of the office and people used to stop by my desk and play with them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► and people people really enjoyed it so I feel like recapturing a part of my early life to collecting these again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/509">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► So it sounds like a productive working environments to have people causally stop it which might have been what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► aiming for was that it was an enjoyable job it was a job for which you were looking for distractions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► None I was I was a newspaper journalist it was busy and I didn't have time to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► and you know so just a nice though just a nice thing. That's fair enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/528">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► So with the pod cast on you as I mean you're in charge of this release are asking you more than anything what these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/533">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► kind of about ten episodes behind they so people can watch what you listen to them on You Tube and episodes behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/542">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► or follow us in the usual ways for the kind of more up to date stuff for the time being anyway that the You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/550">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► version is going to be about to see them behind is what you can assume and we did that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/557">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► Partly because I was surprised by how many people requested the podcast actually be on youtube. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/561">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► It's funny I'm falling for that same bias I think everybody does where you assume other people are much more like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/567">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► and so because I listen to all of my podcast basically on my phone through a podcast app I assume everybody listens the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/576">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► same way. But I obviously have from feedback that we've gotten that is not the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/584">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► People listen in lots of different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► and I was I was surprised because You Tube seemed to be one of the least of the messages I got one of the clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/590">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► contenders for another option that people wanted so that's what that's what we're doing for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/595">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► I'm being and yes I will I will be relying on you for continuous interesting toy videos and stocking up on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/600">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► and if anyone's got any toys they want to suggest a safe aged Ono's any sort of you know high profile toy supplies you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/608">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► know get in touch you can email Graham be ignored he may and maybe get a reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/616">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► or put something on the road that way who definitely will say it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► but we've actually had this happened a couple of times where you have passed on to me something interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/625">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► and you have received an email from a listener and I like this I like the system that people e-mail you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/631">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► and then you will let me know about a few things that make if your own filters I I am one hundred percent in approval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► of this system. Have the ones that have made it through email. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► Been good enough like am I proving in effect if they would like have you looked at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► and said yeah Brady was right to pass that one on him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► Yes No I definitely I definitely think that you would have heard much more vocally from me otherwise if I if I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/651">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► didn't think what you are passing on was was worth passing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► or you would have just heard nothing because I wouldn't have replied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► but I think I've applied every sentence so yes it definitely isn't is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/663">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► Email Brady briefly is the great keeper here I show you I ignore laws well put something on the Reddit because we both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/667">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► Yet somehow the people who listen to podcasts on Egypt as I just opened it like in a separate tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/677">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► and just have in the background or they sit there and watch that stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/682">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► From what I've From what I've heard people will just have it on in the background they have on as a as a separate tab. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/688">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► Although there was one commenter who said he basically put the duck on loop all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► and muted to go at it you know nothing about it but you know whatever works for you buddy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/699">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► He said he found that the video was really soothing to him and so whatever works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► or the video that we've put on the second podcast I actually quite like watching like I could watch that for a while. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/710">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► The DOT gets pretty tired pretty quick but the second one without. That colorful liquid toy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/716">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► I really enjoyed looking at that one it's the second one is much more beautiful. The Duck has drama though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/722">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► You're waiting for it to take a drink of water. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with for our future videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► So if people are interested you can go on You Tube and for the moment search for L. O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► Internet and it's the one that comes up right at the top and subscribe on there if you prefer to get the show that way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/739">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► I was surprised in the last pod cast I asked how many people listen to this podcast who don't watch your videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/749">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► Basically people who found the pod cast first and I kind of assumed that there would be nobody but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/761">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► when there was enough feedback both on Reddit and on Twitter from people who had found the podcast in other ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/770">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► and you know listen to the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► and only then afterwards worked out who we are because we had no introduction at all in the first episode really we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/778">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► just we just went went straight ahead and I was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/785">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► I mean no offense to those people and I'm really grateful for them and I've said such nice things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/789">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► but if you've never watched one of Gray's videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► and you've got no interest in my videos I'm amazed that someone would listen to a single word he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/797">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► but just a couple of idiots that was kind of my feeling as well as I can't believe anyone who doesn't follow the videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/803">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► It's I think that goes in some ways to demonstrate the strength of the of the to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► John Wright if you if you like the conversation between the two dudes because there's no other reason to listen I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/815">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► as we have clearly established we are not experts on very many of the things that we talk about so it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/822">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► So I am very very grateful as well to listeners who don't follow our our work on You Tube that's that's perfectly fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/829">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► I was just completely surprised that anybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► Would listen for more than just the briefest of moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► but as best I can work out they were there were two sources most of those people came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/843">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► and the first is an app for i think it for i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► and Android called Pocket casts which is a podcast manager for your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/851">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► and they have a little featured section which you have been on the front of for a little while so thank you to whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/858">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► is that pocket Cason has decided that we are worthy of being in the featured section I appreciate that very much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► You have a brown paper bag full of money coming your way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► Say thank you and all but it will put a link to their app in the descriptions of people want to check it out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/874">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► Go ahead if you don't use a park as a manager you should definitely check out there's a whole bunch of really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/880">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► ones pocket Catholic great to so go check them out. And the second one is apparently the Web site Digg has a weekly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/885">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► What's interesting and what's new around the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► and so some gracious editor at Digg include us on that list as well so thank you to that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/896">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► and those got to be the main places people found us there are a few messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► and this is just anecdotal from people who are saying that listening just because like a friend recommended it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/904">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► someone who probably does watch the videos and listen to the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► and I said to their friend Look I know you've done my videos and stuff but listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► and I've learned how to listen and enjoy it really warms my heart. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/917">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► Stories I quite like the idea of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► but like just old fashioned someone just recommending something like tea with their mouth into your ears like that stew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/923">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► happens it's so analog. But I agree with you and I'm on a on a similar note is one thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/931">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► If we're talking about things that have warmed our hearts there's one thing I have definitely noticed in the comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/940">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► which catches my attention is the the reverse situation of that people who have said that they basically never listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/946">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► to podcasts they never really listened to audio in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► This form until they either found the pod cast from you or from my video my announcement video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/960">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► and because because of that they have gone into pod cast so that they're collecting a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/966">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► and now they're listening to a lot of podcasts and they're finding it enjoyable feature of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► and that really warms my heart because I think we've talked about before I maybe even I said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► and one of the ads I can't remember but I feel that listening to audio in some form is just a huge part of my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/982">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► I'm always listening to audiobooks or I'm listening to podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► and I know they're just big spaces in my life where I can't imagine not listening to something while I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/997">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► something else that I really like that I feel that it adds a lot to my life and so I'm very very happy to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► when other people say that they have they have been introduced to the podcast world even if they don't like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► particular pod cast and they just they move on from there and they find other other shows that they like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► That's I think that's just great I'm very happy listening to stuff it's not good now because it's that's that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► works if I would like people to just join the world of of things to listen to obviously I would prefer that they listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► to our show all the time as well. But there's no accounting for people particular preferences. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► But anyway I've got just a bunch of messages like that I've seen a bunch of messages or people say Oh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► Thanks I'm subscribed to a bunch of podcasts now I never did before and I think that that's really great I hope. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► I hope people enjoy this as this other dimension to life that can be added with listening to things like podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► and congratulations to anyone out there who managed to warm grace that is an accomplishment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► Now in the last forecast we talked a lot about your net neutrality video and other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► and the net neutrality debate in general and you talked about the upcoming F.C.C. Ruling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► What happened the thing that was fidgeting about this was this is he does this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► This announcement and immediately afterward there's a bunch of news stories about the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► Announcement and it was impossible to tell from these news stories what happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► So I noticed a couple things that the let's just say that they were technical web sites who were covering this who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► wrote articles that were basically content free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► and then within three minutes of the announcement being finished on two major newspapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► and I think it was the New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► and The Washington Post they both immediately posted stories with big headlines that drew the opposite conclusions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► So one of them had a story that net neutrality was defended forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► and the other one that net neutrality was just sunk forever for me. Again it reminded me of your coming out be first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► Being wrong but not for long. Wrong but not for long. OK Right now the sound even better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► But for you those newspapers and I was just thinking. Good job guys good job. That's some quality workmanship here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► Two major newspapers can't agree on the whatever it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► But you're going to you're going to plow ahead anyway and publish your stories well done guys I really appreciate that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► Got to pay him looking to going to click. People keep people looking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► God forbid we try to figure out what someone actually said anyway what I thought it was kind of an interesting rollout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► because I'm sitting here than trying to find out well what what really happened from this F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► Ruling what's going on. I did see a couple of your tweets you did seem confused. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► and I pointed out the same thing I was just saying that there's just tons of headlines all over the place that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► aren't being clear and there was there was just this bizarro rollout where then the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► Made public the notes that they had handed out to reporters in the room which didn't say anything clear at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1192">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Finally they made an outline of the proposal available online which I read through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► and did you glean anything from this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► Well the relevant fact is that nothing happened and there's a consultation period which is going to last for months. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► Consultation period. Yes And then the actual law is going to go into effect or the or the actual F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► Proposal I should say is going to go into effect if he sees in this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► But anyway it's just kind of infuriating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► and I thought it was just a great example of what happens with trying to report on a topic like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► and it was very interesting to see on Twitter people again on both sides just flipping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► and saying oh net neutrality is destroyed forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► and I was very consciously trying not to be one of those people because of the confusing headlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► and because of the confusing nature of what had actually occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► and we don't actually know people is not clear in the slightest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► But what if this document says we're going to have four months of consultation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► What was being jumped on rightly or wrongly by people for them to draw any conclusions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► Was there some Was there some word or phrase somewhere that was setting off bells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► or seizing people's worries now that this was a problem there was basically this hour long boring conference where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► different members of the F.C.C. Board just said a whole bunch of stuff about their thoughts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► And then at the end made an announcement about what everybody was talking about their individual thought process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► leading up to their decision their decision to make a consultation period basically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► So it was you could you could have gotten out of that almost anything you want because people on the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► Board had contrary opinions the vote was not a unanimous vote so I think the story would be very anti climactic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► Yeah it was it was the most anticlimactic thing that could ever possibly happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► and I also I just want to have an enormous asterisk before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► For this statement but I I read the I don't know what the correct term for it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► but the formal outline for the actual F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► Proposal and from my reading of it I would came away from the conclusion of this doesn't this doesn't sound terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► I'm having a hard time seeing why everybody is completely flipping out it is both a a non-story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► and is least the way this outline is phrased for many things from my own perspective I would say it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► sound too bad there are a couple of parts where it does make me wonder a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► but is rapidly getting beyond my my skillset here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► and I would have to rely on much more technical people to read the actual one hundred page real legal documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► and I can't even if I wanted to I couldn't read and understand that in any way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► Something or something is going to be written both in technical and legal terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► but the outline seemed kind of reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► but I think it's also because I have a very I have a very narrow perspective on net neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► and precisely what that means and I guess I will try to get it on the record here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► Engineers If you are talking about asynchronous peering agreements I am on board with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► I have always been on board with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► I understand why this is necessary I just intentionally chose not to talk about it in the video because it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► nothing to most people but my own. Some can put me on that list are you talking about till the are for F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► Nothing happened but we'll see you again in four months. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► Another thing that we just touched on briefly when we spoke in the last podcast was about the name net neutrality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► Yes maybe not being a useful device in the kind of political discourse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► and we sort of threw it out there for people to come up with other suggestions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► Have you seen or heard anything that you like the look of eyes. I saw some other ones but I was not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1433">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Being nothing grabbed me I think in another way it's hot isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► It's very hard I think to have a term that is both a meaningful and evocative. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► I think you know I think choking and throttling and words like that are a step in the right direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► but someone I someone had a description that was something about talking about I S P choke holding networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► and it's the same thing as they are that's the closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► but it is then it still has to be something clumsy about it is who is doing the choke holding up under the ice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► I didn't see anything that really grabbed me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► I didn't think enough about give us some also on the come back to you and I when you're going to solve this for us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► Yeah well although even if I solve it who's to say you weren't stabbed me in the back like you have a free voting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► have just had a Jew in the back of stout you're going to do because I think we're free for you to have been born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► and giving me like a pat on the back for this urban dictionary thing I And then last episode you know like in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► recruiting I think it should be the checking that is not exactly what I said pretty much what you said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► It's people people's minds can change it was as as as I thought it over more I lean more toward jacking to get heavier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► when I realize that the jacking is a mistake for two reasons obviously why don't why don't you tell me what the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► are that Wells one is a sounds of rude it sounds like you know are you jacking I'm not pregnant pause there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► Well I dunno I don't need to spell it out. And second they only. Pertains to visual media. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1551">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► What if someone free broach this podcast and as a podcast somewhere else there's no going on there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► That's already a Jack and I I will. Actually I don't think that the rudeness is necessarily a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► I think like an evocative word is not necessarily bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► I do agree that it has the weakness that it is related only to visual media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► but the biggest can tell you why I keep having a problem with with freebooting is the the way I saw people using it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► People almost always use it in terms of piracy private piracy as in someone downloaded a copy of a movie that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► didn't pay for and watched it and people were saying that they were freebooting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► and I think I love how you're talking about it as if it's become this like sensation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► Probably three people have ever used it but I spend most of my Reddit time now on my own Reddit which is strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► but that's where I see all the common people using it on Twitter I think it's great it's really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► but I am aware that I rarely see it used in the context for which we were trying to define it which is somebody else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► Profiting off of of the work of a third party without permission as in the newspaper's view Jack. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► Our videos that I almost know very famous had the jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► and this is why in my mind because it was the prom with the English language in general that all words lose their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► specificity over time and become increasingly meaningless versions of themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► and I think you jacking freebooting has gone through this in just a very fast lane reading at the time it has taken it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► to do I don't know ten podcasts. It's not a part of the page. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► Qantas has never acted with your group in the world and we're already having to like one episode seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1680">TS</a>]
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00:28:30 ◼ ► for another day but we didn't talk about the fact we are going to get a new name on the periodic table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► Oh and another element one hundred seventeen has been confirmed now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1715">TS</a>]
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00:28:59 ◼ ► So that counts as confirmation. And once you got confirmation that means you're going to cook up a name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► So name a new element who I'm trying to think what the most recent new names have been decided to sell it to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1748">TS</a>]
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00:29:31 ◼ ► and there's a bit of compromise but here we seem to have just one element. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► So for example last time we had two new elements named and one was given an American and it was little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1775">TS</a>]
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00:29:52 ◼ ► Oh it's one thirty one thirteen is still unnamed. Yeah that's interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1792">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Or it has whatever the and the placeholder name on and training him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► Yeah whatever it is it's interesting that they so they they confirm the existence of one seventeen four one thirteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► interesting also is it one one fifteen as well. Interesting interesting there's a few available still. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1812">TS</a>]
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00:30:53 ◼ ► and anyway naming after Richard Feynman I mean I mean very big fan of Richard Feynman I have always loved the career of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1853">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► Richard Feynman as I would feel that I would want to back this because Fineman is just an just an amazing amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1862">TS</a>]
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00:31:23 ◼ ► It is primarily working in physics and it I think that the the periodic table should be biased towards chemists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1883">TS</a>]
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00:31:54 ◼ ► names on the periodic table but if if there are any. Any chemist scientists out there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1914">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Who are unrepresented on the periodic table it feels like the I love I love Fineman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1920">TS</a>]
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00:32:12 ◼ ► OK we can have a refinement on next for the next particle that we come across that would be perfectly OK I'm in face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1932">TS</a>]
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00:32:44 ◼ ► Einstein it has an element. Yeah I mean recently the Germans named one after Copernicus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1964">TS</a>]
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00:32:58 ◼ ► Yeah that's why I was kind of curious to see who gets to decide but I well I think that I think the Russians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► and the Germans will decide and I will give a name to the to I you pack. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/1985">TS</a>]
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00:33:55 ◼ ► said. I was but I'm wondering if yes they would have if they would have a pair of eight. I'm sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2035">TS</a>]
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00:34:39 ◼ ► and that was a pace of do you call a fan not a coder fan so I guess I guess we could call a fan out yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► Here we sort of privately discussed this before that the word fan is as awkward connotations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► I think I have on the pod cast that the word fan a couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2094">TS</a>]
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00:35:02 ◼ ► The person use they themselves called it fan art so I think that it is fair to to gays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► but it is a deviant ART user named kiddie ninja fish which is a code name in a cell God I love the internet I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► that that can be a thing where you just look for getting into a fish that you are looking for and they put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► or this this person did a very good drawing a cartoon of of the two of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► and you want to try to describe it for our internet listeners. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2131">TS</a>]
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00:35:53 ◼ ► picture has created their own and to be taking it to the next level. Yeah and it I guess it I would say it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2153">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► Maybe not a very you know a very handsome a but a pretty accurate measure sitting at a computer in my cave hunting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► and pecking and with a little plane plane crash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2171">TS</a>]
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00:36:33 ◼ ► Yes Yes I'm looking very exasperated in the background it's a very Marvin The Paranoid Android kind of look just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► know hand on head exhausted by your hunting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► and pecking as I would be if I had to watch in real life he was very very good. Yeah I can you draw a euphoria. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► Do you have any artistic talent I have zero artistic talent on the terrible though I want to bring up this piece of fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2211">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► art to be so well done the person who has done it clearly has a lot of talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► and reshape that because I have no talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► and I understand even for something simple like that a lot of effort goes into it and so I thought it looks great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► Link in the show notes of people want to check it out and I don't know if you do and even I can give thumbs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► or likes or hearts or something I dunno I couldn't I want to leave them a comment you had to have an account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► or something you know so I wanted to contact them and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► Naively I was thinking I'd have to get the original That's a really nice thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and then I realized he's done on a computer has a nice and almost certainly he's done that on a on a tablet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► Oh yeah you you can have the original and so can everybody which is why internet is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► but yes so thank you very much to get into Phish really well done and it really made me smile I liked it so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► Thank you Ira. Metaphor Melissa getting along are full of of looking at the timer now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2273">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Now our follow up is now longer than the first episode was easily you and me chatting. We should just stop right here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2280">TS</a>]
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00:41:51 ◼ ► Graham's number number for video but there are also hopefully in the weeks to come will be even more amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2511">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Ten I was with him and we only recorded like two or three videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► and the rest of the time we just need to tell me cool stories and tricks and taught me math stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► and went to dinner and at the end I was just thinking I wish I was recorded this whole thing it was incredible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► So there's really good is really good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► So anyway that's what I've been up to but you know I say in the notes I have paid watching movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► Yes you you have traveled a third of the way around the world. I've been there and back again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► You have been there and back again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► and what I can only imagine took the same amount of time he watched the first two hope it will be for you watch both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► It's an unexpected journey and the Desolation of Smaug I think is for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► and before I ask before I ask have any stars to give each of them so I know what to expect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► That that is actually there is actually a hard a hard question to answer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► Again I happen to have an opportunity where I had kind of a the whole evening free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► and I thought you know what let me just do this let me just sit down and watch movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► Again I don't know if you have this experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► but I have often found that if you have a low expectation of a movie it often improves your experience of watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► movie and the girl versus the reverse is true. You have really have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► There's nothing worse than if everybody tells you something is the greatest thing ever and then you go to watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► and I was fine but you have such high expectations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► I've only found one exception to that in my whole life which is the wire which I have been hearing about for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► and years with the greatest T.V. Show ever made and I finally sat down to watch it and it was the greatest T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► Show ever made because I got the story for another time. Yet though I have had four I mean a good few years now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2627">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► From what I heard about him stretching into three films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► and everybody who's ever watched it who's talking about it including yourself came back with no reviews at best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► and usually reviews about it being really boring and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► when I was walking into this with incredibly incredibly low expectations I think there are very few movies that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► on my own turned on to watch that I had lower expectations for than this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► and you know because the sentence you have on the books and that yes I would I would say I'm a fairly large token fan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► So anyway so that these these expectations were low and remarkably the movies managed to Limbo below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► and high on the floor a set expectation of The Hobbit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► I was expecting I was expecting just nothing and it was kind of worse than that and people's people's I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► I felt there is when people tell you boy these movies feel really long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► There is there's no way in words someone can explain to you how long they really feel you have to experience this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► yourself. And even Brian's number it's it's unbelievable and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► I mean it was it was one of these things where right from the start I felt we were in trouble here where all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► saying of the first somewhere there and having like dinner and singing songs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► OK you've already skipped at least an hour into the movie. But let me let's go through a couple things here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► But first of all the first Hobbit movie opens up with the prologue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► Saying about what has happened with smog attacking that little bit was OK is fine that you know for a few minutes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► OK it was fine for a few minutes but I remember watching that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► and even that I think I remember thinking if I was the editor here I would have cut this down in half. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► I don't need all of these scenes of a dragon attacking the town. Yeah we get it we get this fire this smoke I get OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► It then opens and this is this is where I really felt no where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► and we're in trouble here in the same way that I remember when the well bring it up again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► The first Star Wars movie came out my father has always said he knew that we're in trouble right from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► because that opening crawl makes reference to taxes and the Federation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► Ted said as soon as he read taxes in the opening sentence you thought oh this isn't this isn't the good side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► and my father is a tax attorney who's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► and this is also to do with code than let's say with his tax law he would expect that but no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► So if the Hobbit after they do this exciting prologue there is this scene between Bilbo and Frodo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► and it's a little I had such a hard time placing where in the timeline of The Hobbit is this scene supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► It's sort of Bilbo's writing in his book and he's saying oh Frodo I've told you many things about my trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► but I haven't told you the entire truth of it and Frodo sort of walks in and they have this little discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► and they're clearly preparing for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► and I get a pretty big token fan I know the timeline I think it took me forever to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► when is this supposed to be happening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► And then oh right this is supposed to be happening on the same day in The Lord Of The Rings film this is Bilbo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► birthday party that they're preparing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► and already it's so confusing you're going to start with this thing that happens on the same day in the previous movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► but there's no need for this whole scene. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► It doesn't need to be that you could just completely cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► and nobody would notice if it was supposed to be like the novelty of Frodo being in the film again I think that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► because I remember I didn't know he was in the film again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► when I first saw him I was like uh oh he's back oh yeah and I mean that is to the for the sake of sake of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► and I'm sure that's the exact reason it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► and it is just so that that you have a lodge of wood as Frodo for a few moments but though I'm looking at the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and again immediately I mean maybe I was just a little bit slow here but I was confused about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► when is it supposed to be taking place. Allies are with here and there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► There's this problem this is problem with Bilbo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► In Holmes' a character the actor who plays Bilbo I believe he has to be one hundred twenty years old. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► Now he is very old and he is a noticeably older than he was in The Lord Of The Rings movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► when you're filming sequels prequels is always it's going to happen except a fundamental property of this character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► the stories is that he does not age that this is something that everybody has to comment on it's one of the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► things in the movies they comment on the fact that Bilbo doesn't age. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► It's it's just it's very distracting and especially in a scene where you just don't even need it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► and the same thing the same thing comes up with with legalists legalist the same actor Orlando Bloom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► I think he has his whole noticeably older that it's it's impossible to look past its you're so aware of it in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► scene because it's almost like I I don't know I don't know how old he was in the film the first movie's actors look it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► up. But it's almost like you take someone who's in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► Their early twenty's and then ten years later in their thirty's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► They're the same person but he looks like a real grown up man now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► Yeah and it is just so just use his face is wider broader you just a different person. Not a pretty boy anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► Yeah he's he is less selfish and it's the same thing. Oh you're a mortal OK or maybe not all the elves age in reverse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► Is that what happens here because the only thing that makes any sense I mean I just I don't I could go on forever about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► Clearly clearly were not a fan sort of and obviously it sounds like you could pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► and then pick some places for quite some time and I'd be quite happy for you to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► but if you were going to give an overarching problem you think it's curation as I suspected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► and as I heard from other people it's just they're trying to turn something into a trilogy which cannot possibly be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3053">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► It should be two movies at most and two relatively short movies to begin with and there's three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► and I say that there's two kinds of issues where I see this pop up the first is the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► And I suppose this is the thing that that I could pick apart would be forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► but if there's one thing that I found I found personally offensive in the movie is the whole addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► and expansion of the character of Radagast. So Gandalf. OK So Gandalf is a wizard. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► And Radagast is in the movie they show him as this is nature wizard kind of hippie top one he's the guy in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► forest now that this drove me crazy because in the original Hobbit books there is there's none of this if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► seen these movies any scene where Ratigan. As in the movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► None of this happens in the original books this is all brought in to extend the story line and to make it bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► and it it doesn't it doesn't make any sense in the whole in the whole in this whole world is that this character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► supposed to be a wizard just like Gandalf he's supposed to be a powerful magical wizard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► and our introduction scene of him shows him not being able to to fix a hedgehog who's sick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► It's simple if you're getting because in this world he's he's he like and off as a lesser angel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► They're basically like tiny tiny demi gods and they play him off as is this joke character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► but so all of this stuff was brought in and all of these scenes with him everything you see Gandalf do going off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► and his other adventures like none of this is in The Hobbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► and I feel that all of that that stuff is trying to make these movies into his big dramatic Oh the Necromancer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► coming in Gandalf and Radagast are dealing with this whole problem. And it just it doesn't it doesn't work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► It distracts from the main story of what is Bilbo and the Dwarves What are they up to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► What are they doing like that you have this central story that you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► but the movie keeps going all over the place and it's just got it so many things were just awful with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► but it was really just just stretching it out for four lengths and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► I think the other half I will stop I promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► but if I can give an example of that I have never seen a more boring fight scenes almost ever and that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► and the one that I was waiting for that I thought oh I know it's I know something they're going to drag it out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► I was waiting for was the scene in the second movie where all the all the dwarves escape on the barrels in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► book this is two sentences this keep on the barrels there in the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► I'll talk to can see them because I was sharing that fight scene. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► I want to go back in time and I swear it must be twenty minutes long and it is the most boring fight scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► and most implausible fighting I may have ever seen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► I mean it's it's it's slightly more implausible than the mutt fight in the Indiana Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► and the Crystal Skull movie when he's doing sword fighting and there's a man that is everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► and in that kind of the other thing that kills me about that one is just that I don't I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► and I just you know I feel sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► but I want to be in a different life I think I would want to be a second script writer in Hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► and I couldn't write an initial script but I think I could do a lot to improve existing scripts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► You know you could newspaper subeditor you know you've got your board to count. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► but I'm one of the things with that scene that just drove me crazy is is OK so you have these three E's three characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3295">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► that the dwarves who are in the river and then there are Orcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► and Elves fighting on either side Orcs are trying to kill the Dwarves and the elves are trying to kill the Orcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► and maybe the dwarves as well it's also unclear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► But you see the elves just taking these just amazing perfect shots every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► and killing orcs by the hundreds so it just gets completely boring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► But then as soon as the elves are trying to stop the Dwarves the main characters they're protected by this main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► character magic in a movie that makes the elves suddenly incompetent every time they're trying to get hands on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► Dwarf and you can't have it both ways movies. Either the elves are amazing everything they do or they're not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► They can't just be amazing when they're fighting the Orcs but that scene just went on for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► and was so boring I couldn't I couldn't believe it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► And the childishly ridiculous sort of maneuvers they were pulling off you know bouncing off this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► and jumping on to that one. Yes yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► Yes Yes That was the one shot that I really just rolled my eyes but I cannot believe this was before the fat dwarf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► He's in his barrel and he rolls rolls off on to the side of the river and knocks down a hundred Orcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► and then also there's weapons in consistently possibly an armed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► but then he pops out of the the barrel with two axes I mean I guess he got them from the Orcs and chopped down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► This is the tiniest thing that I'm about to say but this I can't believe about to nitpick on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► but it just bothers me so much. So he's on the he's on the side of the river in his little barrel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/3389">TS</a>]
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01:11:34 ◼ ► and sort of live their lives by copying hon I guess that makes them money OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4294">TS</a>]
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01:11:48 ◼ ► but I do also I think there is a lot to be said by being positively influenced what you talk about like you say like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► camera shop or a way of doing something and you know you'll always be influenced by that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4315">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► I think oh I really like how that thing looked and it can feed into what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4320">TS</a>]
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01:12:12 ◼ ► but you know I think you're already on a loser if you if the way you describe what you're doing is by reference directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► referencing someone else in that way in that in the whole how all of Hollywood movies are pitched so it's it may take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► Jurassic Park I'm going to cross that with Love Actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► They pitch every single movie and yeah that's the way that works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► I don't like and I don't I don't I I'm sure I've been guilty of it because it's a helpful way to sell things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► and make people understand things but I don't think I could describe anything I do in that way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► Like if you said to me I described one of your projects in those terms. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► Tonight doesn't immediately spring to my mind and it doesn't spring to mind for a fee or for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► or for a lot of the other guys and gals we know who are successful like they are just their own thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► Like I could describe what it is like if you said to me just drive a minute physics for example by you know by Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► You know it stick figures and this happens and that happens and how he does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► but you couldn't say it's you know it's this meets this close kind of this and it's the same thing a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► but there's there's been subsequent channels that you could say it's kind of like Minute Physics but with color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► but you know the thing that yeah it's funny bring up you bring up Henry because I thought I saw he's got what he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► a very minute style now has Yeah I mean I mean he didn't invent doing that star himself but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► and he'd be the first to say that but in this kind of field he's become very minute now. I saw a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4434">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► Commercial that I thought whoever made that T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► Commercial became what it was for that they had to have have intentionally made it as close to a Minute Physics video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► as possible there are a lot of little details about Henry's work that if you pay attention to them you can notice about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► particular ways things are done a few things very consciously but like how the hand is represented on the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► and I want something I thought man there's no way that person didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► Didn't you have the advertising agency didn't just say oh we're going to we're going to run with this because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► it's a cool it's a cool style that it's a it's a strange it's a strange it's a strange world to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► and again it is it's it's where things get so hard with with influences and you know where do you draw the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► and I think that's where everybody who works in this field worries about that to some extent I think you worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► maybe mimicking somebody else too much it is just becoming your own thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► I don't know how do you say when it goes the other way when you are mimicked or you are the you have the inspiration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► or the influence does that give you flattered by that. Do you sometimes feel a bit offended by it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► Where do you stand on that side of things. It's it's tricky and that's the one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► OK So the longer I have been the longer I have been doing you too professionally the less I have actually been watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► You Tube videos of that as a general statement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► That's a very conscious decision on my part is I used to watch just a ton of You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► and now I almost never really watch youtube unless it's one of the conferences where we're getting together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► and then I've been to watch everybody's stuff to see what everybody's been up to in the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► and then that's also great because it's fresh on my mind so I can talk to everybody about what they like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► but I just want you know the night before I think I think I'm the last one I didn't quite work my way through Derek's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4562">TS</a>]
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01:16:19 ◼ ► didn't think I had to be at home. But so this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► So I'm going to a roundabout answer to your question which is I partly do that because I don't kind of want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► influenced by other people's stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► I totally relate to I say that all the time and people think I'm crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► but I think it's a really I do it so I don't want to be influenced to know other people are doing in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► and if there's if there is a topic that I know I'm very well may be covering at some point in the future I will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► watch anybody's video if they cover that same thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► Because the problem is I'll get I'll give it up because this is probably video I'm not going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► but for a while I was thinking about doing a video about capitalism versus communism versus socialism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► and around the time I was thinking of doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► Crash course with John Green did a video on capitalism communism and socialism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► and I am not going to watch this video and the reason I cannot watch that video is because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► The writers and johns are going to come up with some clever little way to describe something or some funny little joke. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► And the problem is if I were to ever try to write my own video it's impossible to get that out of your mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► If if somebody has has thought of a clever way to describe something you can't not hear that in your own mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► So if my own videos are going to have anything remotely unique in them it's going to be sometimes the way I describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► things or the way I put things together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► And so I have to preserve that and not watch videos on on things that I may cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► and an even more extreme example I happen to notice that Hank on a crash course recently started a crash course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► And there is a topic that I'm working on now which is vaguely psychology related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► and I don't even want to know what topics crash course psychology has covered because even if if I know that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► they've touched on things that are similar to to what I might work on I know that that will inhibit me from wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► work on it it will feel like oh the Hanks' already done it and there's no there's no point in me doing that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► Even though as I said at the beginning I feel the same feeling of well none of us own the facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► and all of us are covering stuff that people may cover before and you know cover again in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► and that's that's fine what matters is a person's individual take on it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► But I do I am aware of constraining my You Tube intake and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► That's it's a little bit that can be a little bit weird professionally sometimes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► But to answer your original question about what happens when people send me videos that are much like my videos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► when I first started out in the first year I would watch everything particularly things that that looked like my own. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► I wanted to see what people were doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► But I would say in the last year as as I've also cut down my You Tube In general I especially don't want to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► videos that are like my own videos because it's just I it's a similar kind of thing it's like if somebody is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► something in a similar style I don't want to see at all what twists they put on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► or how they've done it slightly differently because you can't help but be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► Influenced or affected by that kind of stuff if you see it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► but it is those influences not be positive sometimes could you know like like if I say someone who does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► really clever with a camera angle or a bit of lens flare or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► and I think oh that's a nice thing I should try and incorporate that one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► and maybe a year later it was appearing from time to time that cannot improve improve what you're doing take out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► that and that can but what I'm talking about in particular people on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► Well straight up send me a link that says something like this video looks exactly like a C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► Great video and then they say I don't click on those links I don't want to see those in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► but what you're talking about Gen Gen influences. Oh that that's completely true and that happens to me all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► I'm really aware of when I'm watching for example documentaries or let's say informational T.V. Programs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► I can't help but be just hyper aware of how either the editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4854">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► or the person on camera is choosing to talk about whatever information they're talking about how they're choosing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► walk through an explanation and most that I'm very aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► and I'm keenly paying attention to oh this person does a really good job of talking through a complicated explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► or what is honestly more helpful is oh this person does a terrible job of walking through this explanation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► What has made this a bad explanation and that kind of stuff can definitely filter through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► but that's a whole different thing from seeing videos that that look that looks just like my own videos although I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► and I want to find one find one example which I think is is is an interesting example hold on a missing moon moon month. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► Well pull it up. I heard just saps Yeah Kurt Curtis KIRK Except I don't know exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► You may have seen some of their videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► They're very slickly animated videos and they're covering sort of science topics for the for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► and I think this is a great example of someone who's come along. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► They're doing very well they're currently at one hundred twenty thousand subscribers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► and I think they're a great example of someone who is entering the educational space is covering you know topics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► But it has a real style and and the style is definitely a very very slick very visual very animated style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► and you can see that this person's been influenced by the pre-existing You Tube channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► and he has other channels listed in the sidebar like Crash Course is listed I'm listed there there's the brains group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► with family they're all listed there so they're like this person obviously knew that they exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► But it's it's just such a good example of of finding your own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► and so I think a slightly awkward name aside I expect to see the channel be growing in the future so I put it in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► It sounds like after advice to be telling people to be original like that seems like the most natural thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► Do you think people will shy from it because they don't have original ideas or they don't have the courage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► and the confidence in their ideas or because they think knocking something off is more tried and tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► and therefore more likely to be successful. What stymies originality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5034">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► It's not our products and trying to parse your question I think it's partly I'm not I'm not sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► I love it when you say you're passing my question makes you sense I reporting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► Well no I really I really need you to rephrase that question again because I'm not quite sure what you're going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► their originality of ideas or originality of style or why what stymies originality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► When Joe Blow says I'm going to start a You Tube channel Why am I doing something original you kind of need to start by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► mimicking stuff that you've seen it's very it's very hard to just sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► and create from whole cloth something brand new. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► Everybody starts start out by mimicking other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► and in the in a past life I kind of I kind of wanted to be a non fiction writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► and I definitely very consciously mimic the style of some authors that I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► but that's that's why there's this quote about in the world doesn't need another Stephen King It already has a Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► and it's like it's OK to have this in this initial period where you're just trying stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► and so you're trying to find your voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► but you really should find your own voice in your own style as fast as possible and do things on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► but it's it's it's not possible for someone to to make something that's just completely brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► and original just right from the start that's quite a tall order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► and even even even just being original at all is is quite tricky I was there's a podcast I like it's almost a time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► was so good I don't want to listen to it. They cracked a pod cast I don't know if you listen to this one or not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► It would you know Cracked dot com Yes it's that Web site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► and they have a bunch of their their writers sometimes get together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► and they're basically they're basically doing audio versions of a bunch of the articles they've written on the site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► Yeah but I really like hearing about the I really like hearing the authors talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► and just just mention a whole bunch of other stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► I think it's a really good example of how you don't need to have brand new stuff all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► I am happy to listen to those authors to talk about their articles for an hour. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► But they did they did want to pursue it recently where they were talking about submissions to their Web site this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► but how they're just always amazed by how many times they will get basically the exact same article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► or video skit posted to them by people who are on the other side of the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► but they get their submissions on the same day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMV_oCuE/5217">TS</a>]
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