00:00:00 ◼ ► All right I have to call on how unprofessional because we haven't reached as I could expect. [TS]
00:00:09 ◼ ► Hello hello this is now I have Trevor I can't talk at the moment. What time you coming tomorrow. [TS]
00:00:25 ◼ ► They're going to call back in two seconds now we have to wait now we have to wait. Since we last or each other. [TS]
00:00:33 ◼ ► Yes well we search on them in person last week. Yes we did. You took me on a date. [TS]
00:00:40 ◼ ► They take you on a date I'm not sure I took my dinner I didn't eat pork and we had KLEIN Yeah I guess it was a date. [TS]
00:00:50 ◼ ► Since the year since the podcast is kind of you know it's really just got going it was the first time we've spent a [TS]
00:01:00 ◼ ► and I thought it created quite an interesting dynamic because obviously we talked about lots of stuff we would normally [TS]
00:01:06 ◼ ► talk about and it was stuff we wouldn't talk about in the podcast on the roof and whatnot but there were a few times [TS]
00:01:13 ◼ ► and I think we both acknowledged that we would sort of start to talk about something or topic would come up [TS]
00:01:22 ◼ ► and should be keeping our powder dry Oh is this is you know it was a bit strange in that respect. [TS]
00:01:29 ◼ ► Yeah I know that yes there was one topic in particular which I think you're going to bring up shortly where we did we [TS]
00:01:42 ◼ ► and he said no way I'm to I want to tell him that I want to talk in the podcast about that I thought I say what it was [TS]
00:01:47 ◼ ► I think I need the transcript I don't think I totally put a lid on it but it was it was a strange situation. [TS]
00:02:03 ◼ ► We'll talk about it later on the Internet as it was I don't know it was weird it was there [TS]
00:02:15 ◼ ► but maybe here's my thought maybe it's a good thing because we can we'll all end up talking about maybe more [TS]
00:02:27 ◼ ► and then like you said there's a whole bunch of stuff that you just you wouldn't want to talk about on the podcast so [TS]
00:03:01 ◼ ► or have been fairly edgy comic sans like on one of those people who thinks it's a bit of an F. Sound. [TS]
00:03:13 ◼ ► I've used a few times in videos and initially I was using it to kind of be a bit of a troll [TS]
00:03:24 ◼ ► when you upset people dropped into a few videos just to upset people. But like in doing that. [TS]
00:03:35 ◼ ► and there's been a couple of recent videos where I've actually used almost functional I like I thought I think Comic [TS]
00:03:43 ◼ ► Sans actually might be the fun just to do this with and not after all these years and all this sort of edgy comics [TS]
00:04:01 ◼ ► Yes I think Comic Sans for me is an interesting specific case of a broader kind of question that I've had about fonts [TS]
00:04:14 ◼ ► for a long time and it's I don't understand what makes some funds good and what makes some fonts terrible [TS]
00:04:39 ◼ ► and I'm sure I've been trying to find out why is it that something can look good or something can look terrible [TS]
00:04:48 ◼ ► and I've read books that are supposedly filled with rules about what is good design what is not good design. [TS]
00:04:59 ◼ ► and I think it's particularly an interesting question with funds because I've learned more about the typefaces I guess [TS]
00:05:09 ◼ ► but I've learned more about the features of particular kinds of of typefaces and I can pick out some things when. [TS]
00:05:23 ◼ ► when something has just gone terribly wrong I will bring up an example now which is kerning you know what kerning is. [TS]
00:05:30 ◼ ► Yes OK for listeners who might not be aware kerning has to do with the letter spacing [TS]
00:05:36 ◼ ► and because of the of the ways ways some letters are shaped you can kind of slide them under each other [TS]
00:05:45 ◼ ► when you put them on the sign so that it looks more visually pleasing if the letters can kind of not overlap [TS]
00:05:54 ◼ ► Yeah then they would be if you were using a typewriter for example you're looking at something on my screen right now [TS]
00:06:04 ◼ ► Is rounded and if the font is arranged very nicely the W can kind of edge over the oh a little bit [TS]
00:06:14 ◼ ► Words that aren't current properly it's very irritating because you can see it on store signs [TS]
00:06:24 ◼ ► and do bad parenting that is something also that you will soon find out about in the section I think that's what [TS]
00:06:31 ◼ ► and I think I've been lucky with Haven't you heard about people you know turning a lace collar all over me. [TS]
00:06:37 ◼ ► It's something that I've done with manually in a couple of places I think in the header of some of my website where [TS]
00:06:46 ◼ ► and it's E G P with full stops between the letters I have manually current it a couple of times so that the full stops [TS]
00:06:59 ◼ ► For example because it can look weird once you're aware that it's just too far out. [TS]
00:07:05 ◼ ► So there's something like things like kerning there's a few other things with with fonts [TS]
00:07:11 ◼ ► when people who are really into fonts talk about why some of them look like this font looks great [TS]
00:07:19 ◼ ► Then an example of this is is Helvetica which people always hold up as this amazing standard of such as such like a [TS]
00:07:32 ◼ ► and I don't I don't know I don't know if I did if I knew nothing about the history of Helvetica would I be able to pick [TS]
00:07:42 ◼ ► and say oh boy this is clearly such a great font I don't think I would be able to do that [TS]
00:07:47 ◼ ► and I think Comic Sans kind of suffers this reverse effect of that where people hate it disproportionately because [TS]
00:08:10 ◼ ► Yes And I think there it's an interesting choice because I think at big sizes there are some things with comic fans [TS]
00:08:19 ◼ ► that just I do think look awkward it's not a font that is that translates well to a gigantic sign. [TS]
00:08:27 ◼ ► Yeah there's a child's nursery around the corner from where I live and that was huge fun and Comic Sans [TS]
00:08:38 ◼ ► and then because it looks worse as larger sizes it's an effect where people can really tune into it [TS]
00:08:44 ◼ ► or something is big and then obviously comic fans and you think oh it looks terrible [TS]
00:09:04 ◼ ► but just so long ago ten years ago a lot of years ago I don't want to do the counting more than a decade ago. [TS]
00:09:15 ◼ ► I remember turning in papers that I had set in Comic Sans Comic Sans about twelve point five [TS]
00:09:23 ◼ ► and so relatively small on the page. Not all the text was written in that like an essay or something. [TS]
00:09:29 ◼ ► Yeah yeah so you know I would do sociology have to write you know an essay about something or other [TS]
00:09:37 ◼ ► Wow And the reason I did that is because this is first of all it's not pre internet [TS]
00:09:49 ◼ ► and I was trying to find something that I thought was relatively readable that was in Times New Roman [TS]
00:09:55 ◼ ► and I remember for myself I used to have this pattern where I would I would write on the. [TS]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Computer they were printed out I would make corrections by hand and then transcribe it back in [TS]
00:10:04 ◼ ► and I remember just thinking that you know at smaller sizes Comic Sans was kind of nicely legible it was easy to read. [TS]
00:10:13 ◼ ► and the thing that makes me wonder about the piling on of Comic Sans was I never had a single professor make any comments [TS]
00:10:22 ◼ ► about this throughout the entirety of my college career. No no one ever commented that it put an effort to strike back. [TS]
00:10:29 ◼ ► I didn't know what no one ever commented on it which is completely unremarked upon that this was a fun choice I don't [TS]
00:10:37 ◼ ► think there is almost anybody who could do that now and it would be unremarked upon. [TS]
00:10:42 ◼ ► and I feel like that like that experience of mine is a tiny anecdotal data point for Comic Sans has become hated because [TS]
00:10:52 ◼ ► it is hated not because of anything intrinsic about the font itself anyway so that that as you mention the Comic Sans [TS]
00:11:04 ◼ ► and that I would be mortified mortified to do that now but it just it didn't even cross my mind a decade plus ago. [TS]
00:11:13 ◼ ► I think I think that the usefulness I'm finding with it is sometimes it's quite useful if you want to say something on [TS]
00:11:22 ◼ ► and have quiet quiet like a human personality voice without using one of those you know rubbish forms that's supposed [TS]
00:11:33 ◼ ► but it's kind of got a personality to it it's a bit like this is an official voice this is an official filmmaker [TS]
00:11:39 ◼ ► scientist voice this is just a little human voice I want to give you for a second and [TS]
00:11:50 ◼ ► or is it because it now has such a personality and a place in culture that it's almost taken on personality and. [TS]
00:12:00 ◼ ► It's almost like it's almost like you're getting you're getting something for free with Comic Sans all this baggage has [TS]
00:12:06 ◼ ► actually can be quite helpful in almost it almost as a character now has this typeface. [TS]
00:12:13 ◼ ► Does that he said Soames specifically talking about. There are definitely times that you want more informal fonts. [TS]
00:12:26 ◼ ► and I have a big thick Sarah font that I use in most of my videos for for the titles [TS]
00:12:32 ◼ ► or the words on the screen I have a relatively bold stand Sarah font that depending on the it was his hand crazy [TS]
00:12:49 ◼ ► but some of the videos they clearly feel like no no no this is not for Sarah FS I need to censor. [TS]
00:12:58 ◼ ► but I have a I have a third font that I spent a lot of time trying to pick which I almost always use for the little [TS]
00:13:04 ◼ ► stick figures talking or thinking and that you know that's not going to be times new roman someone's internal thoughts. [TS]
00:13:12 ◼ ► It's it is it is a hand written looking funny because it conveys something completely different because that kind of [TS]
00:13:22 ◼ ► Yeah I was trying I was trying to pick something I don't remember the name off of it [TS]
00:13:26 ◼ ► but there's a website I think it's I think it's called comic book fonts something like that is that the name is in the [TS]
00:13:33 ◼ ► middle of the comic book fonts dot com They had their website they have just a ton a ton of from my perspective very [TS]
00:13:51 ◼ ► and they're also just a lot of really great themed fonts it was a while ago there from looking for a font for a [TS]
00:13:56 ◼ ► particular kind of thing. But yes and I spent a lot of time trying to find that pretty. [TS]
00:14:00 ◼ ► Gular little font to use because you definitely want different different feelings for different things. [TS]
00:14:15 ◼ ► Yes OK So I saw this recently I think on Reddit maybe was an accident I don't remember [TS]
00:14:28 ◼ ► It's sort of a refined version of Comic Sans. And I think it actually looks really good. [TS]
00:14:37 ◼ ► and shows how they changed a little bit of the way the letter strokes of Comic Sans look they've smoothed it a little [TS]
00:14:43 ◼ ► bit but still kept it looking handwritten E. and I have to say I think Man this looks this looks great. [TS]
00:14:55 ◼ ► But just a lot nicer as though the theoretical person who wrote comic sans was just concentrating really hard [TS]
00:15:03 ◼ ► when they wrote each of these different letters so I could totally see under certain circumstances using comic knew if [TS]
00:15:13 ◼ ► itself if it felt right and felt like that was the kind of thing to do for myself in the D.L.C. [TS]
00:15:17 ◼ ► With them if you would you think of this you can get my initial reaction as I said for the first time. [TS]
00:15:49 ◼ ► Mark my first my first impression is a positive one will say what the others think. [TS]
00:16:00 ◼ ► I'm must wondering how much more time we can possibly spend talking about fonts. I think no more time. [TS]
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00:17:39 ◼ ► Don't you want to follow the little follow up item that I want to bring up on the Do You Remember we mentioned as an [TS]
00:17:46 ◼ ► example of how people are an original if you comment if you make a comment on Twitter. [TS]
00:17:51 ◼ ► People often respond back to you with the same joke you very quickly. Yeah so this. [TS]
00:18:00 ◼ ► I've been to me in reverse destine he smarter every day. Powell tamer the manly man by the way. [TS]
00:18:12 ◼ ► and if you are going to not let that one always we're going to bring it up for you. [TS]
00:18:17 ◼ ► Anyway he was on Twitter was destine made a little comment on Twitter saying something like he just realized that he is [TS]
00:18:25 ◼ ► a bike clubs as opposed to a Cyclops and I saw him make a little comment on Twitter and I replied [TS]
00:18:44 ◼ ► and I honestly thought wait a minute because this was shortly after we just put up the podcast. [TS]
00:18:51 ◼ ► and I thought you know I think this is exactly the kind of joke that others are not this is not original to me this is [TS]
00:18:57 ◼ ► just the first part the get pretty much any glass is where I was going back and I looked [TS]
00:19:12 ◼ ► Did you quietly delete it and pretend it didn't happen or do you know what what's done is done. [TS]
00:19:25 ◼ ► Joke that was really just a thought came into my head and I reply to Justin I feel kind of dumb about it. [TS]
00:19:37 ◼ ► So if you don't mean to but this kind of thing just happens all the time. Have you calmed down. [TS]
00:19:48 ◼ ► Well I mean I'm not sure if I was I was angry I guess maybe it was anger you were angry [TS]
00:20:02 ◼ ► but now you said that more than just disappointed he went like I was disappointed with this film. [TS]
00:20:11 ◼ ► Well I had many more things to say but somebody cut me off before I was even really warmed up you know [TS]
00:20:21 ◼ ► Yeah you will hear that I I was talking about something that was all that I was talking about the opening the sort of [TS]
00:20:29 ◼ ► second opening scene of the movie and you said something like It sounds like you could talk about this for a long time. [TS]
00:20:40 ◼ ► General disappointment in the movie because I could've done a blow by blow throughout that whole thing. [TS]
00:20:44 ◼ ► But you may be rightly cut me off my feet I don't think it was rightly a lot of people have requested that global blows [TS]
00:20:56 ◼ ► But they were there were two things I just want to follow up that are interesting. [TS]
00:20:59 ◼ ► They got into a discussion with a couple people on the Reddit and it was a question of the movies being two movies [TS]
00:21:05 ◼ ► or three movies and it was it was interesting to see that it was originally announced as two movies. [TS]
00:21:19 ◼ ► Peter Jackson has this Facebook posting where he's happy to announce that it is now going to be three movies. [TS]
00:21:42 ◼ ► but I found really interesting is that it's the same writing team who did the Lord Of The Rings and they [TS]
00:21:50 ◼ ► and the one point I wanted to make listening to myself argue about The Hobbit movie from last time is I kept mentioning [TS]
00:21:57 ◼ ► all these times about how it's different from the book it's different from the book. [TS]
00:22:01 ◼ ► Which was interesting to hear me say because it comes across as though I wanted to stick to the book very accurately [TS]
00:22:08 ◼ ► and that is never my opinion with movies that are made from books or movies are such a different thing. [TS]
00:22:24 ◼ ► and one of the things that I thought was really great about a lot of the Brings was that they did make all kinds of [TS]
00:22:31 ◼ ► They moved stuff around in the timeline they added a few scenes they cut a whole bunch of stuff [TS]
00:22:36 ◼ ► and I thought that that was done just just really well so I want to make it clear that my my complaint is not does not [TS]
00:22:43 ◼ ► stem from the fact that it was different from the book The Lord Of The Rings movies are very different from the books [TS]
00:22:52 ◼ ► When it's different and it all goes poorly and it just it it irritates you more. But yeah I did. [TS]
00:22:59 ◼ ► OK I'm sure it's drive it know when you've made it when you've made a change and made Yes by making the change. [TS]
00:23:04 ◼ ► Yes and I was thinking about it a lot and with that with that two movies to three movies announcement [TS]
00:23:11 ◼ ► and I thought this moment here was really the kiss of death because with the Lord Of The Rings there was way too much [TS]
00:23:20 ◼ ► and that what they had to do was cut down what could have been sixteen hours if you just filmed it as it happens in the [TS]
00:23:26 ◼ ► book and compressed it and then the exact reverse process has to happen with The Hobbit of bending and stretching [TS]
00:23:33 ◼ ► and I'm sure that that is why the same director the same writing team this in the same everybody can be involved in two [TS]
00:23:47 ◼ ► and one of them is objectively a boring trainwreck and I've gone from ruthless cottons to shameless patters. [TS]
00:24:00 ◼ ► But I do see that even with with my own scripts I'm really aware that cutting it almost always makes it better. [TS]
00:24:08 ◼ ► I mean you're an editor for for your own videos I'm sure I'm sure you must see the same thing as well you have a you [TS]
00:24:20 ◼ ► but it's almost always there is there is that there is a conflict there's always that conflict that you think [TS]
00:24:24 ◼ ► everything so interesting but in your heart of hearts you know cutting out more is probably for the best. [TS]
00:24:32 ◼ ► but if I if I do spend a long time on something it invariably gets shorter and shorter and shorter because [TS]
00:24:38 ◼ ► when I go back with a fresh set of eyes the next day I will always cut it how long I don't even notice how long does a [TS]
00:24:54 ◼ ► Yeah so that that video was I think about ten minutes long you know a little better nine minute something [TS]
00:25:02 ◼ ► when you record it for the first time what is it what is it started as to get down to ten minutes I would say that was [TS]
00:25:12 ◼ ► It seems pretty concise they stay on most subjects so I would say that was in the order of twenty to twenty to twenty [TS]
00:25:21 ◼ ► Everyone's different someone like Martin Poliakoff in the chemistry videos you know is almost like fifteen minutes [TS]
00:25:28 ◼ ► Phil might be twenty becomes ten but there are other people who will talk for thirty or forty minutes. [TS]
00:25:35 ◼ ► But yeah I would say that was around I was in the order of twenty so I have to interesting do you watch Game of Thrones [TS]
00:25:42 ◼ ► I do not watch Game of Thrones although that conversation went well then I guess I try [TS]
00:25:49 ◼ ► and I try to read the books I haven't read the books but I'm told by my much much better half who has just been. [TS]
00:26:00 ◼ ► All the ones that have been written so far but she loves them but they're pretty long. [TS]
00:26:09 ◼ ► Aside from the Lord Of The Rings I have almost never found myself able to get into any kind of fantasy genre. [TS]
00:26:24 ◼ ► and I think they all suffer from this huge vocabulary problem it is almost almost every one of them it's OK here's a [TS]
00:26:33 ◼ ► map and here's a whole bunch of kingdoms you've never heard of the real characters and races of people [TS]
00:26:38 ◼ ► and all of this and that is to me is almost always such a barrier to get into fantasy. The T.V. Show is cracking. [TS]
00:26:50 ◼ ► I don't I don't know why I just for some reason it hasn't crossed my threshold for something to watch [TS]
00:27:05 ◼ ► Save your money because you would never like demo to legally or anything so I was trying to save you money [TS]
00:27:15 ◼ ► Well well actually that's I'm not sure in our house we have anything that can play D.V.D. [TS]
00:27:21 ◼ ► and That writes My my new my new macro. No Matt there's no there's no D.V.D. Player on the side of my macro. [TS]
00:27:31 ◼ ► and then come an actor for a new original SCO please don't do that no that would be terrible. [TS]
00:27:37 ◼ ► Isn't that I don't know can you buy your stuff online I'm always hearing people complain of the castle why I was [TS]
00:27:49 ◼ ► Any I only use mine to watch the data but I don't I don't have a T.V. To hook a D.V.D. [TS]
00:27:54 ◼ ► Player up to now you can have tracked. All right stuff in my own stuff if you stuff that's going to be nine. [TS]
00:28:07 ◼ ► I do I appreciate the sentiment. I'm just trying to get objects and I have another to try to to try to. [TS]
00:28:15 ◼ ► What's this about Skype live translations. Oh just as a follow up to the language stuff you know. Language. [TS]
00:28:27 ◼ ► Yes My favorite I just today an enormously long keep getting e-mails from people still about the language thing. [TS]
00:28:33 ◼ ► You're always arguing with points that I didn't make as well as my fund the number of e-mails that I get from people [TS]
00:28:39 ◼ ► who tell me language lessons are really important because they grew up in a country that didn't speak English [TS]
00:28:45 ◼ ► and they learned English and they wouldn't be able to write an email to me now if they had had [TS]
00:28:49 ◼ ► and there's never the argument making people if you know I am perfectly fine bored with English language taught in non [TS]
00:28:56 ◼ ► English language speaking countries but as always this makes everybody even angrier when I say that [TS]
00:29:00 ◼ ► but still I get e-mails anyway saying you know I could never have written this big long enough for you to ignore it. [TS]
00:29:12 ◼ ► Today was I got it was the worst I was doing e-mail all day long but someone sent an email [TS]
00:29:17 ◼ ► and it was one of these emails I could see on my screen just the look there's a little scroll bar saying that it's a [TS]
00:29:23 ◼ ► quarter of the whole thing. Someone's writing this thing and they say I see at the top oh it's about language isn't it. [TS]
00:29:27 ◼ ► Writes I just caught this the line about I would never have been able to write to you if I hadn't learned English [TS]
00:29:37 ◼ ► but I have that what with the link that I have here for us to just mention is as follow up is Skype did a demonstration [TS]
00:29:48 ◼ ► but the demonstration looked really impressive of them doing lies translation between two people using Skype video chat. [TS]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Speaker and one was a German speaker and so they would they would take turns talking to each other [TS]
00:30:09 ◼ ► but the German woman was saying came across as reasonable English to the to the listener on the sand [TS]
00:30:20 ◼ ► and it was right like it was up to the second it was a lot kind of like when you see footage from the United Nations [TS]
00:30:25 ◼ ► and everyone's got their faces and you hear some guy droning on in the background you know a few words behind [TS]
00:30:31 ◼ ► and you kind of you know we're way down OK so it was not it was not real time in the sense of speaking over the German [TS]
00:30:41 ◼ ► They still they still had the alternate phrase it was like one person said something they wait [TS]
00:30:45 ◼ ► and the other person said it but it was it was fast enough that there wasn't three seconds of silence [TS]
00:30:58 ◼ ► and I remember this from reminds me of a link I sent you that months ago that we never got around to talking about in [TS]
00:31:08 ◼ ► Baby say I thing was in all this trouble because people were complaining about the quality of the live captioning you [TS]
00:31:16 ◼ ► A live captioned by ICE I don't know if it's a used to be sort of stroke of the top people I don't know if it's become [TS]
00:31:27 ◼ ► and you know the silly mistakes that happen where a word gets translated into something silly or nonsensical. [TS]
00:31:34 ◼ ► And part of me thought well OK let's get it right. But another part of me thought what are you complaining about. [TS]
00:31:40 ◼ ► This is incredible that you've even got you've even got this this think that this exists. [TS]
00:31:46 ◼ ► Sure there's a few mistakes but can you even I can't believe it's even possible that we can do this [TS]
00:31:56 ◼ ► Brady has you know very well people like to complain. So yeah. Everyone everyone has their type I guess. [TS]
00:32:08 ◼ ► and mighty place to be looking down upon the people complaining about transcription errors in their live captioned Mr. [TS]
00:32:17 ◼ ► and it makes me weep in my car you know it's good to say that my misquoting thing is getting on [TS]
00:32:30 ◼ ► So so Mr Mr I think no one should be taught languages even and no one should be able to speak English. [TS]
00:32:38 ◼ ► There was another article we've got here on the notes as well. I think I spotted this one a sentinel. [TS]
00:32:45 ◼ ► This was a baby see a news article about a report showing that language learning is a slow news brain aging so yet [TS]
00:32:54 ◼ ► another excellent reason that we should all be learning other languages. I still disagree with this because as. [TS]
00:33:04 ◼ ► I've seen a bunch of stuff like this talking about the things we came across before it was about language language [TS]
00:33:11 ◼ ► learning delaying the onset of Alzheimer's for example. Yeah and there's no argument that that is the case. [TS]
00:33:28 ◼ ► and this is this is this is where you see the interesting articles talking about people doing Sudoku [TS]
00:33:35 ◼ ► or crossword puzzles and you know that that's highly correlated with delayed onset of Alzheimer's [TS]
00:33:45 ◼ ► when I've dug around in that a little bit is that it has much more to do with the people who do crossword puzzles are [TS]
00:33:52 ◼ ► generally learning new stuff in other areas of their life as well and that is that's really the key thing. [TS]
00:34:00 ◼ ► We're kind of keeping your brain young and healthy is to continue to learn new things. [TS]
00:34:07 ◼ ► So but that's my main complaint with articles like this is yes language learning slows brain aging. [TS]
00:34:14 ◼ ► I'm absolutely sure he could do the same thing with programming languages right teaching people how to program a [TS]
00:34:23 ◼ ► So it's a question of that's not an argument in favor of learning languages in particular. [TS]
00:34:53 ◼ ► and I the thing is the thing is you're trying to act all noble here but your time not bring it up. [TS]
00:35:03 ◼ ► However I notice you can converse yet however I am not bringing this up on the internet I am just using the word that I [TS]
00:35:12 ◼ ► think is better and then you always chime in with your remarks about how we know what you really think of you know [TS]
00:35:19 ◼ ► when you need to do something if I have to I don't think I've ever tweeted you to correct you [TS]
00:35:24 ◼ ► and say oh you should call this this view jacking instead. Well I don't use it anyway. [TS]
00:35:30 ◼ ► You know exactly what you do as you know I you know when it lands there's a debate to be had [TS]
00:35:42 ◼ ► but I respect I respect that you have I respect that you're taking and to building me up [TS]
00:35:51 ◼ ► and helping me with Freeview thing. Anyway it's all good fun and I love the conversation. But anyway I think it's time. [TS]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and you are up to something I could hear your figures up to a disease that I am I am treating at the moment. [TS]
00:36:17 ◼ ► Actually I just the whole course but my keyboard I will I swear if I were you you would do [TS]
00:36:22 ◼ ► and I was completely listening to your conversation about freebooting it was very interesting thank you [TS]
00:36:32 ◼ ► and I just realized I was trying to find a link earlier and I was unfortunately able to find it [TS]
00:36:41 ◼ ► but I swear to New York if you want to keep talking about feebly thing is really no no I didn't talk about it in the [TS]
00:36:46 ◼ ► first place. What I want to write I think you did you were the one who brought it up. [TS]
00:36:56 ◼ ► or what I did want to talk about was net neutrality because this is the term that there is no replacement for as yet [TS]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and I it's amazing actually as a little side it's only occurred to me last night while I was thinking about this [TS]
00:37:16 ◼ ► particular issue how little time I now spend just having ideas that you don't really like my thing [TS]
00:37:25 ◼ ► and I'm just so busy now and I can go back to having ideas was your thing. Elaborate on that. [TS]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and people would tell me I was good at what's coming up with all these new ideas and creative things and [TS]
00:37:40 ◼ ► and I feel like I don't do as much anymore because I just have to produce so much stuff to feed my earlier creations [TS]
00:37:49 ◼ ► and that I need to do it more it was just something I thought if I spent a lot doesn't you know you're really creative [TS]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Working all wouldn't be a good idea to do a video that every element on the periodic table and do it like this [TS]
00:38:05 ◼ ► and make it look like this. So then you have to go and make the thing that takes time. [TS]
00:38:12 ◼ ► Anyway I gave myself a bit of free time and I thought about placements for the term net neutrality. [TS]
00:38:22 ◼ ► and being creative this is just saying Yeah I can't wait to hear this I would be so I failed it obviously is not my [TS]
00:38:46 ◼ ► and see if you see if you like any of them will just say some of the things I was thinking about [TS]
00:38:56 ◼ ► and could you possibly say unless it is possible that you could say that you know that this is all in your mind if it [TS]
00:39:13 ◼ ► So we'll wait for the live editing for a plane crash going that the flight I will even I'm not even giving you the [TS]
00:39:19 ◼ ► pleasure of editing I go in there anymore but you know you have got to be kidding me. [TS]
00:39:24 ◼ ► You have been doing nothing but complaining to me about the lack of plane crash corner [TS]
00:39:31 ◼ ► and now you're not going to do it again I think you just kind of like I do every time now. [TS]
00:39:36 ◼ ► Well I well first of all I only cut it out once and yet I think that was because it was incredibly boring. [TS]
00:39:43 ◼ ► It was just it was just in the humanly boring but it was only bored because you didn't go with it. [TS]
00:40:13 ◼ ► and I didn't I didn't I said we'll talk about it and I mention how it's your mom's favorite section on the show [TS]
00:40:19 ◼ ► I did cut it out because if we're going to do it what are we going to get we're going to have a a five minute [TS]
00:40:26 ◼ ► Now this is we were talking about editing Earlier today I made the editorial decision we don't need to talk about the [TS]
00:40:46 ◼ ► or not you do it I'm going to leave this in so that that the Internet can understand what's going on [TS]
00:40:51 ◼ ► but in the meantime let's before we get to Blake I think it will be very exciting. [TS]
00:41:02 ◼ ► We have friends everywhere and I think some people get upset when they hear a slight Jake here [TS]
00:41:06 ◼ ► and I think we're having if I say we should just tell them that you know we have friends that we are [TS]
00:41:23 ◼ ► and I said you know let's have another drink at the bar because we haven't a good chat [TS]
00:41:27 ◼ ► and how extortionate were the prices of that by those two drinks cost nearly the price of dinner. [TS]
00:41:34 ◼ ► I don't remember because you paid for that hotel it was a rip off and they wanted to charge fifteen quid for a wife [TS]
00:41:42 ◼ ► when I had three J C It's still not letting that go on I think you're just delaying because you don't want to tell [TS]
00:41:50 ◼ ► everybody your net neutrality name I'm sure I know I can not possibly survive the build up to [TS]
00:42:06 ◼ ► So anyway I also have a think about net neutrality in a few different words for I know you want me to use that as an [TS]
00:42:13 ◼ ► edit point no no I don't want it that way but I'm not going to do it that way that was not intentional. [TS]
00:42:24 ◼ ► and things like that because that's part of what it was and I've written down all these and I was thinking of. [TS]
00:42:29 ◼ ► There's been lots of data discrimination which is one that a lot of people are already raised is quite good [TS]
00:42:39 ◼ ► or data damning because they kind of a lot of it kind of came to rivers and water and stuff like that. [TS]
00:42:46 ◼ ► And I've written all these things I'm going to go through them all now because I can't now. [TS]
00:42:54 ◼ ► And cash lanes and also cash for comment was always a really popular controversy in the U.K. [TS]
00:43:01 ◼ ► when A marriage that politics once you had of cash for comment I have not heard a cow getting mixed up actually I was [TS]
00:43:10 ◼ ► when radio presenters were taking sly payments to talk about products not like not like in an ad that we do in a kind [TS]
00:43:24 ◼ ► and it caused this controversy this cash for comment so I was thinking like you know you could have some dollars for a [TS]
00:43:32 ◼ ► but there are a few that I did like the first one I didn't mind I like the sound of although it has got its problems [TS]
00:43:40 ◼ ► was streaming now terrible terribly of on the down telly was terrible and it landed what what is being split. [TS]
00:43:52 ◼ ► I don't understand the stream of data split streaming does that just sound that is twice as much data coming into my [TS]
00:44:06 ◼ ► What about and forty this one's kind of already has another yeast I quite liked it. [TS]
00:44:17 ◼ ► but it's still tot Isn't it is it is very hard I think what we saw on the red it was most people I think that the high [TS]
00:44:24 ◼ ► supported alternative was that they just didn't discriminate one nation and there's over quality and then another [TS]
00:44:30 ◼ ► and another thing I quite liked I was thinking something I don't know much about medical terms [TS]
00:44:35 ◼ ► but I was so I was thinking about sporting terms and I thought about sandbagging because that's what's happening here. [TS]
00:44:41 ◼ ► It's sandbagging. I don't know it's I'm betting is is that good. Does that give it does that give us hope. [TS]
00:44:49 ◼ ► I mean sound sandbagging sounds bad. Yeah well let me start sandbagging I mean set. [TS]
00:44:57 ◼ ► No what the oceans from is it from car racing with I would put bags of sand in the car to hide its true performance [TS]
00:45:12 ◼ ► and things like that where players pretend to not be as good as they are for the reasons of their ratings like in chess [TS]
00:45:18 ◼ ► for example you would lose chess games at times that don't matter to get a lower rating [TS]
00:45:29 ◼ ► and that's kind of what they're doing with data here they're sandbagging they're weighing down slowing down certain [TS]
00:45:39 ◼ ► and it's also quite a fun term so sandbagging the best of the bunch. I've still got so much data. [TS]
00:45:48 ◼ ► Yes Yes Brady idea machine man has more ideas to come up with I think for that one thing split streaming in there of [TS]
00:46:03 ◼ ► but oh yeah yeah I know that the My initial reaction to it is well it sounds good and I don't know quite why [TS]
00:46:10 ◼ ► but that doesn't sound like it's good. Yeah dreams are fast and it sounds like it's good. [TS]
00:46:16 ◼ ► Narrow banding I think it's going to be axed after that after that huge build up on your part after that one quality [TS]
00:46:23 ◼ ► such as I tried to dial it down a bit but I wasn't trying to say like I was his idees machine [TS]
00:46:29 ◼ ► when we become busy people we have less idea less this time for ideas was kind of my my point that kind of I failed to [TS]
00:46:37 ◼ ► make miserably before I then failed to do you think if you had more time you would have come up with better ideas. [TS]
00:46:47 ◼ ► and we paid you what we know what you would have your your last earnings for that time [TS]
00:46:55 ◼ ► I'm not convinced that you could I mean I don't know it and I reckon I would really. [TS]
00:47:04 ◼ ► I'm not saying I've come up with like a good enough idea and I'm certain it will come up with answers. [TS]
00:47:09 ◼ ► Just saying if I paid you for eight hours of work you certainly would think of that real art [TS]
00:47:25 ◼ ► and unjust remark it isn't just because you didn't come up with you jacking say and I did not [TS]
00:47:35 ◼ ► and the final thing I would be remiss if I did not mention this thing that one hundred people at least must have e-mailed [TS]
00:47:40 ◼ ► and tweeted me which is the John Oliver's video on net neutrality. Yes yes of course a lot of people said that to us. [TS]
00:47:51 ◼ ► and his alternate term was cable company for three of his his suggestion for net neutrality because he to come. [TS]
00:48:03 ◼ ► and the boringness of the term net neutrality so I would put it in the show notes although I have a hard time imagining [TS]
00:48:08 ◼ ► that anybody listening to the show has not already seen that clip which was done it was done very well most of it was a [TS]
00:48:16 ◼ ► really good it was really good. Yeah so I think that was you know another one so the net neutrality Brady flow. [TS]
00:48:25 ◼ ► Because do you know that Brady in some context means slow really celebrating his fate [TS]
00:48:39 ◼ ► Also because I don't want my name attached to something. Rubbish. What about great data. [TS]
00:48:45 ◼ ► Because then we could have black black data which is stuff that isn't allowed to come through anyway. [TS]
00:48:50 ◼ ► White data white listed data which is the stuff that so premium and paid for and gets the golden ticket [TS]
00:48:56 ◼ ► and then you've got great data which is stuff that gets laid down and has this dreary life getting through the pipes [TS]
00:49:02 ◼ ► and might come to the house and I was trying to you know I think that's also a terrible suggestion. [TS]
00:49:07 ◼ ► It's hard to believe in what you just said there are white listing blacklisting and great listing are already words [TS]
00:49:15 ◼ ► and the same thing with a white hat black hat grey hat hackers think there's the China trying to connect the color with [TS]
00:49:25 ◼ ► Whereas the color gray obviously has lots of connotations with being in the middle which I think works for me because [TS]
00:49:36 ◼ ► Unlike yourself who's taking nothing but extreme positions on everything all the time do you think. Oh yeah. [TS]
00:49:47 ◼ ► and I do sometimes frustratingly non-extreme that's what I want you to be more extreme and your thoughts [TS]
00:49:54 ◼ ► but Joe is you know is Mr Reasonable Oh I can see both sides of the issue. That's that's you. Do you agree. [TS]
00:50:03 ◼ ► Yeah I guess yeah I do see I I think there is more to every story than people realize. [TS]
00:50:11 ◼ ► I think the world and life is extremely complex and we make a lot of judgments and decisions [TS]
00:50:23 ◼ ► So I'm reluctant to have a really really solid position on lots of things because I just know I don't know all the [TS]
00:50:39 ◼ ► Well I think we do have to take positions and stance you can't just keep flopping in the wind on everything [TS]
00:50:44 ◼ ► but that's why I kind of sometimes I'm quite mild is because I'm like well I don't know I don't know the whole story. [TS]
00:50:53 ◼ ► No one does. Who am I to make it who much to say. Well let's talk about shredders stratas. [TS]
00:51:02 ◼ ► OK I see this on the notes What is it what is it if you want to talk about this thread is [TS]
00:51:12 ◼ ► Yes it I think you I was in the middle of shredding the messenger instead of in the middle of shredding all these [TS]
00:51:23 ◼ ► and you were like you can believe that you were quite surprised I thought yes I was I was surprised I was disbelieving [TS]
00:51:33 ◼ ► This is it I mean your dad is a tax attorney or something isn't a say yeah he is my father is both a lawyer [TS]
00:51:41 ◼ ► and a tax attorney you would have to have a tax attorney asked for a lawyer and a tax attorney. [TS]
00:51:51 ◼ ► Yes My dad has this in his office in North Carolina he has this big borderline industrial. [TS]
00:52:01 ◼ ► but I mean that of course as a lawyer he's dealing with pieces of paper that have this very private information on [TS]
00:52:12 ◼ ► So he needs a real industrial shredder to deal with getting rid of that kind of stuff [TS]
00:52:17 ◼ ► and I guess he always instilled in me the value of shredding documents without any personal information [TS]
00:52:27 ◼ ► Yes I think well I think in my own spin on this which is that I think what you were making fun of me over instant [TS]
00:52:35 ◼ ► messenger was that I was telling you that I just read every piece of paper every piece of paper that I'm getting rid of [TS]
00:52:47 ◼ ► What that is is reducing cognitive load so that I never make a decision about oh is this a charade where the piece of [TS]
00:53:03 ◼ ► and gotten rid of a thousand decisions over the course of my lifetime with just making this the rule. [TS]
00:53:12 ◼ ► and it all goes in the shredder I swear someone should do some psychological study of you. [TS]
00:53:18 ◼ ► You would be you'd be an absolute gold mine does that not sound reasonable to you know I think that's all you know even [TS]
00:53:23 ◼ ► though this sounds so ridiculously reasonable. It sounds so no reason than human. That's great. [TS]
00:53:36 ◼ ► I've rationalized what do you hear your word if it can't be it can't be true rational how if something was too rational. [TS]
00:53:46 ◼ ► You're just you're describing something that must be irrational which is that it can't be rational then I just think I [TS]
00:53:53 ◼ ► am being rational I think you are irrationally rational and I know that doesn't make any Lyme to shred everything. [TS]
00:54:00 ◼ ► Or that you don't have to make a decision about whether to shred things or not I don't know why that's so funny. [TS]
00:54:10 ◼ ► Like I mean it makes sense like I said it makes sense but I just kind of a bit have you gotten this right [TS]
00:54:15 ◼ ► or are you going to join me on this. Well I haven't got a shredder and a pub and didn't you say you had some big time. [TS]
00:54:23 ◼ ► Yeah I guess there's some I had the corner of your mouth Liam reserved for pieces of paper that you're never going to [TS]
00:54:29 ◼ ► shred that you're just keeping is that I actually don't know whether it's that typical [TS]
00:54:36 ◼ ► when those sensitive pieces of paper go I know not where they are I don't think I've ever heard you as upset at me as [TS]
00:54:45 ◼ ► when you found out that I have a little notebook full of passwords. Gods now don't even go anywhere. [TS]
00:54:53 ◼ ► No no no no I don't I'm not I'm not even sure we can have a conversation about this now I feel like I need to prepare [TS]
00:55:03 ◼ ► for this. I mean I think people you know as one of on an electronic device or something there. Yeah. Where when. [TS]
00:55:11 ◼ ► Which is completely imperious is not allowed in at least someone has to break into my house [TS]
00:55:17 ◼ ► and physically take it to get my passwords and the sort of people who break into houses and smash windows. [TS]
00:55:24 ◼ ► The sort of people who are more likely to do a poo on your bed hack into your computer. [TS]
00:55:29 ◼ ► Where is the sort of people who are going to get your passwords out of your phone in some clever way. [TS]
00:55:33 ◼ ► The exact sort of people who want to steal passwords because they want to sort of the Crimea I think having your [TS]
00:55:38 ◼ ► passwords written on a piece of paper in your house is safer than having them on your phone. [TS]
00:55:46 ◼ ► Oh well think I'll actually if I can calm down for a moment I will actually agree that having I mean you hide this I [TS]
00:56:00 ◼ ► You don't have a book that is written on the front cover passwords to all my important things. [TS]
00:56:04 ◼ ► And you leave it next to the computer somewhere else. Oh no that information you just said is the case now. [TS]
00:56:14 ◼ ► So I will I will agree that writing passwords down is not necessarily the worst thing that you can possibly do [TS]
00:56:31 ◼ ► It's just a very because I know you're a person who has at the very least a large number of Google accounts to deal [TS]
00:56:41 ◼ ► So we need to do what we need to do to get one password on as a sponsor for the show [TS]
00:56:47 ◼ ► and then we can do we can do double duty where I can yell at you for awhile about what you should do [TS]
00:56:52 ◼ ► and then we can have one password sponsor sponsor the show will do that at some point we can but. [TS]
00:57:07 ◼ ► Why aren't you doing this can I buy you a shredder was you would you accept a shredder into your house you're trying to [TS]
00:57:15 ◼ ► Meanwhile you desperately need a shredder can I help you with that with that I think I would call it like I think I [TS]
00:57:22 ◼ ► and how they would look at all of the shut up it's not going to take up the lakes is it. [TS]
00:57:32 ◼ ► and you have to get one that does cross cutting that's the that's the that's the way to go. [TS]
00:57:36 ◼ ► Cross was that let's you know was just the just the lengthwise part so I'm not those links. [TS]
00:57:43 ◼ ► but the point is not to make it like it's in the movies The point is to shred the document you can even get better ones [TS]
00:57:53 ◼ ► That's you know that's really the thing about the long stripes is you have got like and you've got an out. Like if you. [TS]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Should something you weren't supposed to shred you could do what I do in the movies [TS]
00:58:07 ◼ ► when you know that that's the scenario you want to optimize for how could I do this if I shredded the wrong guy so it's [TS]
00:58:20 ◼ ► Today look not so I don't want I want to be a nice subject I imagine you found a nice looking one. [TS]
00:58:28 ◼ ► I have I have a little I have a little tiny one at the moment you could have any if you want a picture of my strength [TS]
00:58:42 ◼ ► and a lot of the feeling of my not surprised if you can just fax documents I'm dealing with today I wish I could strip [TS]
00:58:52 ◼ ► tease went all my tax woes are over oh we should talk about how much I hate taxes. [TS]
00:58:59 ◼ ► OK And then I'll be able to give them mortgage companies. Yes And then that will be the best episode ever. [TS]
00:59:19 ◼ ► but not even the interesting one yet not even interesting ones we are not sure how close they can bring the show to the [TS]
00:59:23 ◼ ► microphone but I found a piece of paper to shred of unique one let me know how this goes. [TS]
00:59:50 ◼ ► I haven't even Cena and you so good I'm glad we're going to get this sorted. You'll be living a more secure life. [TS]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Shred a whole pile of papers I was going to talk to you about my technology was have we got time. [TS]
01:00:09 ◼ ► Well first of all we have to fit in plane crash corner. I'm not I'm plane crash going on television. [TS]
01:00:22 ◼ ► I'm sorry Mrs Gray I'm sorry Mrs Gray I know you like that's that's great mom not not going to which which makes me so [TS]
01:00:37 ◼ ► but now you've got you're going to make my mother sad because you know the plane could go that final two decision that [TS]
01:00:42 ◼ ► thank you to everyone who keeps sending me links to every single plane isn't going to happen. [TS]
01:00:48 ◼ ► I actually am grateful for them to you like every little thing I know I want to say to that crashes in to some mountain [TS]
01:00:59 ◼ ► So oh boy I was really really really and so I think it's going to start or what you want to [TS]
01:01:08 ◼ ► but you're sick you are on an attorney well I will give your Brady's paper. OK All right. Bankers and you get yours. [TS]
01:01:20 ◼ ► or may not hear depending on how brutal Gray is with that size he uses to broadcast hardly hardly is going to be a use [TS]
01:01:30 ◼ ► of the word humble or humbling when people are not being humble or humbled in any way. [TS]
01:01:38 ◼ ► We look like we're down Yankovic I'm a hundred million times more humble than thou art kind of thing. [TS]
01:01:45 ◼ ► It's kind of like that I don't think there's anything wrong with blowing your own trumpet from time to time. [TS]
01:01:51 ◼ ► You know goodness knows we'll do in a stupid things and make enough mistakes and have enough failures that [TS]
01:02:00 ◼ ► So but I think this does turn out of being humbled and I've noticed a lot in sport a lot of sports [TS]
01:02:09 ◼ ► and using it as which is what put in my head Oh you mean the act of someone being humble Yeah OK Now either either the [TS]
01:02:19 ◼ ► language has been mangled or I have just misunderstood it for all these years and you're about to set me straight [TS]
01:02:34 ◼ ► You are brilliant and then I went on to the field and I scored nine go and all the cheerleaders loved me [TS]
01:02:42 ◼ ► and thought I was brilliant and every man wanted to pay me and they gave me trophies and medals [TS]
01:02:47 ◼ ► and I was named the best player on the ground and I have to tell you Gray I was humbled by the whole experience. [TS]
01:03:02 ◼ ► and people are telling you you're awesome you know. You know well I don't know maybe they're wrong maybe they're right. [TS]
01:03:27 ◼ ► and get a standing ovation the first thing they say is I am truly humbled today by this you know to be given this award. [TS]
01:03:34 ◼ ► That's you know you know being humble a humble like you could I'm not saying you're not a humble person [TS]
01:03:40 ◼ ► and maybe all those people screaming your name in that adulation isn't something you want [TS]
01:03:49 ◼ ► and it's like that here we have humbled in the verb form to lower in dignity or importance yes or with regard to sport. [TS]
01:04:04 ◼ ► Now what those things are to different context if you know your team wins ten nail you say like we humble them [TS]
01:04:14 ◼ ► Nothing like everybody telling me how awesome I am is really humble I could I see examples of all the time where people [TS]
01:04:22 ◼ ► want to make a small or large you know they want to they want to talk about something positive [TS]
01:04:31 ◼ ► and I oh well I'm glad you agree because I thought you were going to tell me on a Brady you misunderstanding the word [TS]
01:04:37 ◼ ► humbled in this context so I don't I don't I mean I haven't come across the most famous use of it recently where it was [TS]
01:04:46 ◼ ► when he went before that parliamentary inquiry into all the phone hacking scandal to happen in the U.K. [TS]
01:04:53 ◼ ► and The PM Pais called him up before parliament and he had to answer all these questions [TS]
01:04:57 ◼ ► and he started off with his famous statement saying I've never been you know this is my humbling day of my life where [TS]
01:05:05 ◼ ► Fair enough you know he was there with his caught with his pants down and he was about to get a shellacking on T.V. [TS]
01:05:11 ◼ ► He was being humbled. But that's the word means. Yeah but other people love the most. [TS]
01:05:17 ◼ ► Another recent example the one that made me think of it was Ryan Giggs the Manchester United footballer who just who [TS]
01:05:24 ◼ ► just retired after his glittering career and deserves lots of accolades and then he got all these variations [TS]
01:05:33 ◼ ► How how how could he possibly have a stadium full of people applauding you and telling you you're great [TS]
01:05:44 ◼ ► I'm trying to I'm trying to imagine the Pons was trying to imagine standing in a stadium having hundreds of people [TS]
01:05:55 ◼ ► I can see that that's an emotional experience I'm trying to imagine what it what is the word. [TS]
01:06:00 ◼ ► To correctly describe that because I can I can imagine that you might feel weirdly small in a moment like that [TS]
01:06:10 ◼ ► and you enter the stadium with all these people around you. But that's still it's still different from Humboldt. [TS]
01:06:19 ◼ ► On a bus crime open to being told I'm wrong about this because I don't think you will get is so often misused. [TS]
01:06:28 ◼ ► This is the problem with language as we've discussed is just words slide away from whatever their meanings are [TS]
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01:08:54 ◼ ► I don't need to just say I just happened to see a link for a link to this Amazon Video Did you see this green [TS]
01:09:02 ◼ ► announcing some products. OK Let me see if I can find this for you really quick. I'm watching it now. [TS]
01:09:13 ◼ ► OK you get the idea of sort of a too easy video of people going wow this is amazing [TS]
01:09:17 ◼ ► but they're not showing us what the actual product is OK for you know for the for the listener. [TS]
01:09:21 ◼ ► That's exactly and it's just it's all the shots of people saying boy this thing is this is great. [TS]
01:09:30 ◼ ► Yeah the thing that is off camera they're holding something in the hands of looks like like well like we have a little [TS]
01:09:39 ◼ ► and somebody described it where once once you hear this you think oh yeah the three she'll look like at the video of [TS]
01:09:46 ◼ ► people consecutively discovering that they have genitals which is exactly is because these people look down we all go [TS]
01:09:55 ◼ ► Oh wow. Or this is fine. Someone's going to make a mash up of that that's going to. We wholly inappropriate but. [TS]
01:10:04 ◼ ► So this video just keeps going on like it is about a minute a half long of nothing [TS]
01:10:14 ◼ ► and let the headline on the video is find out what these Amazon customers are talking about. [TS]
01:10:23 ◼ ► and I always think that is just the worst possible business strategy you could ever have. [TS]
01:10:30 ◼ ► I think Apple is one hundred percent right to just keep their mouth shut about stuff until it's available. [TS]
01:10:38 ◼ ► when people see a video like that is they in their minds imagine whatever this this thing is to be exactly what they [TS]
01:10:50 ◼ ► And so when that whatever it is I mean Amazon could announce that they've cured cancer [TS]
01:11:00 ◼ ► That's exactly I think I thought I thought I was going to be you know a personal robot you know all I got was a cure [TS]
01:11:06 ◼ ► for cancer you know thumbs down and I don't understand I mean marketing people must must know this right. [TS]
01:11:16 ◼ ► That people are going to start assuming that it's exactly the thing that they want [TS]
01:11:20 ◼ ► and so you're just you're just guaranteeing disappointment this oh so important marketing to build up hype an [TS]
01:11:31 ◼ ► and then say By the way come to the cinema tomorrow because Batman's ready I don't know. [TS]
01:11:38 ◼ ► I think something like that's a little bit different because you're trying to get everybody in a place on a particular [TS]
01:11:43 ◼ ► day I don't like products products that are for sale or are not quite that same kind of thing. [TS]
01:11:49 ◼ ► And also it's something you don't market it as we have a really great movie. We're not going to tell you what it is. [TS]
01:11:57 ◼ ► Just show up on that day. Yeah right. Because. How would people be no matter what the movie if it's a Hobbit movie. [TS]
01:12:04 ◼ ► Yeah great job. It's just what I wanted. No wonder they don't tell me what it was. [TS]
01:12:11 ◼ ► but they could do that they could have a secret announcement is oh there's a movie we're not going to anybody show up [TS]
01:12:16 ◼ ► you know show up on this day and it could be another Firefly movie and some people would be hugely excited [TS]
01:12:25 ◼ ► So it's a little bit different but I so I approve of Apple Apple's decision with us [TS]
01:12:30 ◼ ► and it's funny because they see even on a really small scale I don't often talk about the videos that I haven't done [TS]
01:12:37 ◼ ► because I see the same phenomenon while I will mention oh I didn't do this thing for example that I mentioned in one of [TS]
01:12:47 ◼ ► and I still get comments from people all the time saying oh you really need to make that videos on some video on [TS]
01:12:52 ◼ ► Settlers of Catan. But it's the same phenomenon that those people are imagining in their mind. [TS]
01:12:59 ◼ ► A theoretical great video and that's that's not what I would necessarily have made. [TS]
01:13:07 ◼ ► Oh I would love to hear you talk about The Hobbit for hours would you really are you just imagining a really great [TS]
01:13:12 ◼ ► version of that so I think this is this is this Amazon Video I think to me is a perfect example of don't pre-announce [TS]
01:13:18 ◼ ► Companies just keep it to yourself and then and then have some announcement saying here's the thing that we have [TS]
01:13:24 ◼ ► and you can buy it today I think that Apple method is is just much much better so I approve of their secrecy I think [TS]
01:13:30 ◼ ► it's a it's a good it's a good thing to do don't don't build up stuff just just have it available [TS]
01:13:40 ◼ ► So before you leave us to come and I was developer All right you are still making videos. [TS]
01:13:48 ◼ ► Yes I'm still me and it is again one of those rare moments you have put a video out. Yes yes the counter has reset. [TS]
01:14:00 ◼ ► Something Yeah ten minutes after I put up of it did you actually get strange and zero into that [TS]
01:14:04 ◼ ► and I know I didn't have a thing you were holding you have some video that you are holding back now all the time I [TS]
01:14:11 ◼ ► assume to release immediately afterward that doesn't work because it works on the upload time it was pure coincidence [TS]
01:14:17 ◼ ► and I'm sure you're just going to have the video that you're going to wait to upload until after I try to put something [TS]
01:14:23 ◼ ► I mean not that I'm out you release videos practically hourly anyway so I have to be quick if I want to get a screen [TS]
01:14:34 ◼ ► Doesn't really matter but if you want to just be a is about for those who have been saying [TS]
01:14:43 ◼ ► I'm a bit disappointed you haven't watched the video yet but but just for those who don't know is about family trees [TS]
01:14:51 ◼ ► and how they work and yes I have a cow cousins work and grandparents and all those sort of things. [TS]
01:14:58 ◼ ► Yes because this is really the heart of that video but it's about the titles in family structure is what it's about. [TS]
01:15:23 ◼ ► and didn't know any of these terms cousins and the cousins is really the complicated one. [TS]
01:15:32 ◼ ► But even the things like grand niece exactly who is this person who's a grand niece. [TS]
01:15:39 ◼ ► So I was at a family reunion and of course I'm an inlaw to all of these people in my wife's family [TS]
01:15:51 ◼ ► Partly because all of these people were new to me of course my wife knows who they are they're her family [TS]
01:16:09 ◼ ► and making a little family tree to try to connect everybody because I got I got a pretty accurate impression of her you [TS]
01:16:16 ◼ ► were pretty quickly then do you think that's fair. One thing in there with the i Pad feeling in a family trait. [TS]
01:16:23 ◼ ► I guess that is a dumb idea anyway so I thought I did that just a minute because it is very rare for me to be in a [TS]
01:16:33 ◼ ► social situation where I'm actually going to meet such a large number of new people [TS]
01:16:46 ◼ ► and that's partly why I thought OK if I'm going to meet thirty new people I need a diagram for all of you so I can [TS]
01:16:53 ◼ ► understand where you are in relationship to my wife and so therefore where you are. Relationship to me. [TS]
01:17:04 ◼ ► Anyway since that experience I have been thinking of doing the family tree video for quite a while [TS]
01:17:09 ◼ ► and have now have yes because I had to make was I mean it's taken years what was the what was the roadblock between you [TS]
01:17:20 ◼ ► It's not it's not like you had to you know this stuff would have been hard to find out I imagine. [TS]
01:17:25 ◼ ► No no I mean this is this is one of the things where I haven't been actively been actively working on this for three [TS]
01:17:30 ◼ ► years I'd be quite sad it's just been on my list of projects to work on and for various reasons. [TS]
01:17:40 ◼ ► This was relatively quick that partly because the net neutrality video ended up bumping back something else that was [TS]
01:17:44 ◼ ► supposed to happen and I was trying to pick something that would be faster to do in this. [TS]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Not typical of your videos or certainly of your recent videos. So a lot a lot of people have said that. [TS]
01:18:05 ◼ ► I'm curious can you tell me what the word What about it do you think is it typical [TS]
01:18:10 ◼ ► or why do you think it's different if you can you know I don't mean to put you on a smile I know a lot of money put on [TS]
01:18:15 ◼ ► the spot but yeah I'll have to think a kind of to think um I say if I can give you Brady thinking time you can come. [TS]
01:18:27 ◼ ► I mean it is a kind of visual it was different because it didn't have I had a lot less variety in the usual videos [TS]
01:18:41 ◼ ► and down unless you say it didn't have to fit it didn't have the feeling of like a journey that some of the other ones [TS]
01:18:59 ◼ ► I've found I'm more confusing than I have found some of the videos like I think I said to you after I watched it just [TS]
01:19:08 ◼ ► in our own personal communication I said I like Oh I had to watch a second time in a kind of this and that [TS]
01:19:21 ◼ ► I'm not a good attention paid and I'm a bit maybe I'm just a bit slow but the fast videos I struggle with anyway. [TS]
01:19:31 ◼ ► and absorb a slow state maybe in this one I was kind of like whoa whoa what was that like that so that others that I [TS]
01:19:39 ◼ ► did take a lot from our lot to and I really like and I think it was a really good video to have made [TS]
01:19:46 ◼ ► and to exist I think you're really feeling and they eat which is both good for our trysting raisins [TS]
01:19:51 ◼ ► and hopefully is good for you because lots of people watch it over a long you know it's about time the city. [TS]
01:20:02 ◼ ► There was one part of the video that I struggled with which I had two different audio tracks I recorded the audio in [TS]
01:20:17 ◼ ► and I'm going to forget stuff that I've said before so this is my blanket I may have said it before [TS]
01:20:25 ◼ ► but in the videos I'm trying to be very intentional about having the speed be inversely proportional to how much I'm [TS]
01:20:36 ◼ ► OK so I go slower when I want people to remember things or I think something is complicated and I go faster [TS]
01:20:42 ◼ ► when it's it's you just need to get the gist of this but the details don't matter. [TS]
01:20:46 ◼ ► Like lists of countries I always get asked of course because I don't expect someone to remember twenty seven country I [TS]
01:20:52 ◼ ► do know that a big list exists. That's exactly right that that's the time where it's perfectly fine to go really fast. [TS]
01:21:26 ◼ ► and it was it was amazing how much of a difference it made I thought I can't I can't put this up. [TS]
01:21:33 ◼ ► It's just it's just I mean it wasn't even much longer I think that the slower audio track ended up being like thirty [TS]
01:21:49 ◼ ► but it really made such a difference that I thought even though I would like this video to be slower it it has to be [TS]
01:22:00 ◼ ► But actually when I was at a meeting and I thought you know what. This would make a really good Brady video. [TS]
01:22:07 ◼ ► No I thought having someone explain this in your video format might work much better. [TS]
01:22:14 ◼ ► Because in preparation to do this one I spoke to a few people in person trying to walk through the cousins thing to try [TS]
01:22:24 ◼ ► Yeah and I found in person this worked much better and I could see I was a little conversation back [TS]
01:22:33 ◼ ► and so I was immediately thinking like the number of file videos this is this is almost a perfect operate for someone [TS]
01:22:40 ◼ ► and let's talk about the relationships of all these people so we were discussing last week with originality. [TS]
01:22:49 ◼ ► and I would be very interested to see the family file video on Cousin structure and. [TS]
01:22:57 ◼ ► As an interview though as a as a lucky just an explainer someone let me asking questions all [TS]
01:23:03 ◼ ► or just a good explainer doing as I think the way you do most of your videos you are filming somebody else talking [TS]
01:23:10 ◼ ► You're obviously asking questions in person but you often edit those questions out [TS]
01:23:14 ◼ ► and then you were filming the person going through the things I think it could be done again in that way [TS]
01:23:20 ◼ ► and be another interesting video to watch because I agree if it ended up being a little too fast and [TS]
01:23:27 ◼ ► but I guess that I think that with that was just it was the natural result of the way the animations worked. [TS]
01:23:34 ◼ ► I'm very I will I don't want to compare your videos to mine because I think your videos are better in a lot of waste in [TS]
01:23:43 ◼ ► but the way because I recently did a video where I explain something myself which was this Monty Hall sequel that I was [TS]
01:23:51 ◼ ► not at all I guess where I sort of said OK I sort of took the bull by the horns of it [TS]
01:23:55 ◼ ► and said OK I've had all these other videos about what I want to explain how I would explain to them. [TS]
01:24:00 ◼ ► One so that for me was watching myself explain something in a way you know watching is me trying to do what you eat [TS]
01:24:10 ◼ ► Oh you guys you know just to spin and explain myself and I found it interesting to see how I did do it differently [TS]
01:24:17 ◼ ► and I did do it quite slowly I mean I didn't because it's not has got much information on my video [TS]
01:24:26 ◼ ► I want them out of the whole problem deserves that it deserves a very slow walk through of what the link in the show [TS]
01:24:34 ◼ ► notes for people listening problem with with to go to the car behind the door the host changes on you know we talked [TS]
01:24:44 ◼ ► and that that is one that really deserves a slow walk I could never make a video about the about the mud the whole [TS]
01:24:52 ◼ ► Quickly it which would defeat the whole purpose of doing a video like that no one would be able to follow it I guess I [TS]
01:24:58 ◼ ► look like when I'm being when I'm teaching someone something and I'm told I'm quite annoying [TS]
01:25:04 ◼ ► If I'm probably not a good example but I do like to like emphasize things and say things twice [TS]
01:25:09 ◼ ► and say did you say that look I'm going to show you that again and they say fastidious don't lend themselves to that [TS]
01:25:20 ◼ ► Yes Oh it's not really that I have hundreds of thousands of people watching my videos I have tens of thousands of [TS]
01:25:30 ◼ ► Anyway let's go back to the video though because if you there's a couple of things to talk about that have fallen out [TS]
01:25:40 ◼ ► and everyone was waiting for us to talk about some the podcast you made a mistake. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Mistakenly used the phrase in law or prefix or I say you add the in-law prefix to the title to get the full name [TS]
01:26:10 ◼ ► and of course you talk about a brother in law. It comes at the end it's a suffix not a prefix. [TS]
01:26:17 ◼ ► So for those who didn't even realize that mistakes in there it's not like a structural mistake to the explanation here [TS]
01:26:23 ◼ ► it's just your affair you made almost you almost making a sort of an offhand remark about this. [TS]
01:26:31 ◼ ► but it doesn't it doesn't change the meaning of the video in any way it's just a pedantic little little point [TS]
01:26:47 ◼ ► and then all of these comments about every everybody every comment Well that's what. [TS]
01:27:11 ◼ ► or for an error like that I will never put up an annotation because it doesn't like that that that error doesn't matter. [TS]
01:27:24 ◼ ► or saying in law brother as a result of my video. No one's going to do that no one's going to make that mistake. [TS]
01:27:31 ◼ ► So I don't put at the end the annotation because my suspicion is that most people don't notice and it doesn't matter [TS]
01:27:39 ◼ ► and putting up the annotation then is just it's a distraction from the video is the same reason why it with Iran that's [TS]
01:27:48 ◼ ► a bold campaign to get rid of the pop up ads because those those pop up ads come twelve seconds into the video [TS]
01:28:01 ◼ ► and I think any kind of annotation you run that same risk that the annotation is just for a moment it divert someone's [TS]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and since I think most people don't notice I don't want to put something like that up to call attention to it it has [TS]
01:28:28 ◼ ► and I actually my wife watch the video I didn't say anything to her about it and she didn't notice either. [TS]
01:28:35 ◼ ► When did you realize the mistake was there. Oh I knew it in the audio tracks I had it you know when you editing. [TS]
01:28:41 ◼ ► Yeah that is part the problem is actually I phrased it slightly differently in the slower audio track [TS]
01:28:50 ◼ ► and I was I spent a good while trying to edit around this but I knew it was there when it was uploaded [TS]
01:28:56 ◼ ► but I couldn't edit around it in a way that didn't suddenly have me talking really slowly [TS]
01:29:01 ◼ ► or where the edit point wasn't just so obvious and awkward so I left it and I knew it was there. I'm amazed by that. [TS]
01:29:15 ◼ ► For me this is a workflow issue is going back and fixing something like that at that stage is not so easy. [TS]
01:29:24 ◼ ► I mean I've often wanted to do some research into professional voiceover people to know more about how they do their [TS]
01:29:31 ◼ ► jobs because I am really aware that I cannot record things at different times without them sounding incredibly [TS]
01:29:46 ◼ ► and I knew if I'm going to fix this I have to fix the whole I have to redo the whole thing. [TS]
01:29:51 ◼ ► You couldn't redo the whole thing so you cut to the sounds that it would have just been a massive mess. [TS]
01:29:56 ◼ ► Yes it was it was mainly an issue I wanted to get it out by when. Today at the latest. [TS]
01:30:02 ◼ ► And I was doing the mental calculation of OK how long is it going to take for me to redo the audio [TS]
01:30:13 ◼ ► I am willing to take the hit on this error and let it go up which I want to point out. [TS]
01:30:20 ◼ ► and I think this is evidence for that fact that I am very happy to make cost benefit decisions along these lines of Is [TS]
01:30:29 ◼ ► and in this case I came down very clearly on the no side of it it wasn't even a debate in my mind [TS]
01:30:38 ◼ ► but I knew that I was going to have to deal with everybody everybody commenting on it which they did they did in spades. [TS]
01:30:48 ◼ ► and thank you everyone for pointing for pointing that out I think the top comment on the right discussion is that [TS]
01:30:54 ◼ ► because that's what has assuaged doesn't make you think history done the only you know has a change of mind you stand [TS]
01:31:04 ◼ ► I know that if I if I had done that the video wouldn't be up. Now I would rather have it up sooner than later. [TS]
01:31:10 ◼ ► Yeah because it's also for me it's an issue of impacting the future things that I'm working on because I know full well [TS]
01:31:21 ◼ ► Even though in theory maybe I'm only adding a couple hours to the actual work flow. [TS]
01:31:25 ◼ ► The result would be I would end up spending more time on that video because now I'm mentally thinking well it doesn't [TS]
01:31:30 ◼ ► have to be up until the following Monday and I would end up putting more detail into the animation [TS]
01:31:37 ◼ ► and so this was a this was a just cut down on future workload decision which I think was the correct decision [TS]
01:31:43 ◼ ► and I you know I can't imagine there's anybody out there who thought this video was great [TS]
01:31:53 ◼ ► when there are things in your video that you know are inconsequential errors and you leave them [TS]
01:32:02 ◼ ► OK activated I knew it was a number of our video went up today about the friends and strangers there I'm in [TS]
01:32:13 ◼ ► There was a moment where the guy called Simon who's in the video wrote a greater than sign [TS]
01:32:20 ◼ ► and again incorrect it should have been greater than a course it didn't change the meaning of what he did. [TS]
01:32:27 ◼ ► He's ten and a half thousand miles away so we can't really record and I noticed and I discussed it with him [TS]
01:32:36 ◼ ► and he he knew he'd noticed it as well and we just said well it doesn't change anything. [TS]
01:32:47 ◼ ► Understands what's going on well enough anyway so it's the sort of person who pointed out is a sort of person who's not [TS]
01:32:59 ◼ ► but I did put a note in the in the video description saying it five minutes fifteen way to where it should have been a [TS]
01:33:08 ◼ ► So I was the top comment it was the upload a top comment so anyone who looks at the comments will say as the top [TS]
01:33:18 ◼ ► If you are you're assuming people read those descriptions you control the descriptions with nonsense nobody reads. [TS]
01:33:26 ◼ ► but I thought taht comment would matter because I think if you're going to write a comment don't you just just like if [TS]
01:33:35 ◼ ► Nine times out of ten you get a check that no one else is made to check first that you just used. [TS]
01:33:40 ◼ ► You're so filled with the desire to correct somebody else you just scroll past all the other stuff in the comment box [TS]
01:33:51 ◼ ► I'd be too embarrassed to write a comment on the You Tube video without first checking that there weren't a million [TS]
01:34:00 ◼ ► But then you then you have to spend time looking through the You Tube comments which is a total train wreck. [TS]
01:34:10 ◼ ► and in this case the top one deals exactly with the thing that they're commenting on that's why I made sure it was the [TS]
01:34:23 ◼ ► My reason was more because of we couldn't do it because the guy I filmed is in Australia now [TS]
01:34:29 ◼ ► but even I just had a look at the place to leave a comment on You Tube is above the top comments that someone could not [TS]
01:34:37 ◼ ► even see the top comments when they're when they're writing to creatures of course. [TS]
01:34:46 ◼ ► Even more disappointing if we are looking at the top comment saying a perfectly logical explanation for not letting [TS]
01:34:52 ◼ ► them a stake in what happened and why has it been fixed and then just blindly wrote you made this mistake. [TS]
01:34:59 ◼ ► I'm I hope they're not looking at what they want to really rub it of that I felt that he had more faith in humanity. [TS]
01:35:05 ◼ ► If they are saying the comment and still writing that is astonishing to me that people write these comments [TS]
01:35:12 ◼ ► and it just shows how much of Internet commenting is just people talking into the void doesn't because all of these [TS]
01:35:20 ◼ ► people who are writing comments expecting people to read them and even reading comments themselves. [TS]
01:35:26 ◼ ► Well I think they should take that as a lesson that he only sees already the coming. [TS]
01:35:31 ◼ ► Yeah this is a bit on our topic list for a while as to some time to do a episode about common forms that this is a [TS]
01:35:42 ◼ ► Now I should even mention now because people are going to imagine the most perfect hello internet episode ever about [TS]
01:35:46 ◼ ► that but yes I think that it least on You Tube You Tube is structurally set up so that you are yelling into the void. [TS]
01:35:56 ◼ ► Obviously comments are not like that everywhere but the structure of Youtube just made. [TS]
01:36:00 ◼ ► So when you are here I really have a mental image of opening a room opening a door to a room [TS]
01:36:07 ◼ ► and there's thousands of voices already in that room screaming and then you just yell your comment in [TS]
01:36:12 ◼ ► and close the door that is I would be the real world equivalent of contributing to this discussion. [TS]
01:36:21 ◼ ► Sorry You Tube engineers who work on the comment system you know that I have met some of you I know it might not be [TS]
01:36:26 ◼ ► your fault but that comment system is just a total disaster and I'm never going to not harp on it. [TS]
01:36:37 ◼ ► and there has been some discussion in the wake of your family tree video which was which was quite interesting which is [TS]
01:36:48 ◼ ► Your new video prompted someone to think about the end of their their family tree in terms of that the name. [TS]
01:36:54 ◼ ► Obviously there are certain configurations that will result in a male name being passed on the more [TS]
01:37:00 ◼ ► and you know the gray name would continue because I haven't had children and my brother has been [TS]
01:37:05 ◼ ► and this person was feeling quite sad about the idea that maybe their name was about to hit a dead end. [TS]
01:37:17 ◼ ► but your responses were very deliberately coded robotic saying well why do you care about your name. [TS]
01:37:28 ◼ ► but is this really do you really not understand why someone would be sad that their name would come to an end. [TS]
01:37:34 ◼ ► I get what with two things about this show if I can find that common first well I will genuinely say that I was I was [TS]
01:37:43 ◼ ► I know that you will believe that people on the Internet might not believe that but I really wasn't [TS]
01:37:48 ◼ ► and it is partly just a side effect of the day that video was released I had only slept two hours I was up all night [TS]
01:37:57 ◼ ► animating it I went to sleep very briefly. And then got up and finished working out in the morning and uploaded it. [TS]
01:38:02 ◼ ► And even even at my best on video release days I tend to be pretty brief in the comments partly because of just so many [TS]
01:38:16 ◼ ► but I'm much less likely to write long comments comments on video released so I think that that's partly why I come off [TS]
01:38:26 ◼ ► but what we're about to discuss here is a particular example of something that I would say happens in my life quite a lot [TS]
01:38:35 ◼ ► which is someone will discuss with me something that that they had a purpose that that there may be that they don't [TS]
01:38:47 ◼ ► like like some sort of problem like this person saying oh it makes him sad to think about his his family name dying out [TS]
01:38:52 ◼ ► so he will discuss with me something in their life that they that they that is making them sad [TS]
01:38:57 ◼ ► and I'm trying to convince them that the thing that's making them sad shouldn't make them sad in the first place [TS]
01:39:05 ◼ ► and then that generally just transitions them to sadness. Now mixed with anger is usually the response that I get. [TS]
01:39:14 ◼ ► And I can kind of understand why this happens but I also Chen you really find it is sometimes kind of baffling [TS]
01:39:20 ◼ ► and confusing and that's not what the Cubans were grey I don't know how humans work. [TS]
01:39:31 ◼ ► I would I would like you to try to explain to me now why is it that not everybody but [TS]
01:39:39 ◼ ► but some people are concerned with the notion that a hundred years from now there are people who have their name [TS]
01:39:52 ◼ ► I don't I don't know when we talk about that before we talk about that let's talk to you about how humans work. [TS]
01:40:00 ◼ ► OK Many times when people tell you their problems they do not want you to solve their problems. [TS]
01:40:11 ◼ ► Because they want empathy because they want to share their problems they want to unload it. [TS]
01:40:17 ◼ ► They want someone another human to tell them things are OK They don't want them to invalidate their feelings [TS]
01:40:23 ◼ ► and tell them you're wrong to think that not only like like if your wife comes comes home from work [TS]
01:40:36 ◼ ► This is general advice not to talk to your wife because you know what's different of Sacre she chose to marry a [TS]
01:40:52 ◼ ► My boss wasn't my boss wasn't nice or clients weren't nice or something went wrong and. [TS]
01:41:02 ◼ ► You've got to go into the room and tell the people this and then you go to report that and you got to fix this [TS]
01:41:18 ◼ ► Life is tough but I'm here and I carefully they don't want you to sit and likewise [TS]
01:41:46 ◼ ► But if I could convince that guy that there was no reason to be sad about this he would be better he would be happier [TS]
01:41:53 ◼ ► if he realized Oh that is irrational to think I that's OK This is not a problem anymore. [TS]
01:42:14 ◼ ► but I feel like this is this is a general there have been cases in my life where I have been discussing problems with [TS]
01:42:20 ◼ ► people I'm almost always looking for feedback and I'm very happy when people have some kind of solution. [TS]
01:42:28 ◼ ► and someone has a solution please believe Jared to me Don't put your arm around me and go up so sorry for you I. [TS]
01:42:35 ◼ ► I empathize with you you know I like you do you have a solution to my problem I would love to I have experiences this [TS]
01:42:41 ◼ ► I've had this catastrophe with my will hang on I'm not going to say catastrophe because two weeks ago I was you know [TS]
01:42:50 ◼ ► and someone else had the surgery so this mean serious stuff going on so I'm not going to describe computer problems as [TS]
01:42:55 ◼ ► a catastrophe because they know that I had substantial problems with my computer and hard drive [TS]
01:43:11 ◼ ► but there was so much stuff that it wasn't even feasible to back some of the stuff I'm talking terabytes upon terabytes [TS]
01:43:17 ◼ ► of archive now looks like it's gone. I've had to have a winch on Twitter about it a couple of times saying oh dear. [TS]
01:43:25 ◼ ► What I want is either a so is I think I would like someone to say there is a solution you can recover. [TS]
01:43:36 ◼ ► but also I don't mind people saying oh poor Brady that's really bad feeling for a man to get your data back I hope it [TS]
01:43:43 ◼ ► works out I don't want people telling me you should have this is what you should have done [TS]
01:43:48 ◼ ► or this is you know get back stuff up but no no listen listen to this one a bit of a around you and well life is tough. [TS]
01:44:00 ◼ ► About your computer problems I believe I have said many times like wow that really set you great. [TS]
01:44:05 ◼ ► Yeah that's right and that's what you should always do. Yeah. Yes but can I tell you why I did it in the circumstances. [TS]
01:44:11 ◼ ► Because me telling you. Oh you should have backed up your data. That's just me being a jerk right. [TS]
01:44:20 ◼ ► Yeah great but you know what that's not where we are right now where we are is that you've lost all the data [TS]
01:44:25 ◼ ► and you know what the loss of data is tremendously sad. There's no recovering from that is gone forever. [TS]
01:44:31 ◼ ► And me telling you what you should have done in the past is pointless totally pointless. [TS]
01:44:38 ◼ ► So I expressed a loss you know I like sadness over the loss of so I did this is the right thing. [TS]
01:44:45 ◼ ► This is not the situation that we're describing right now but he currently has a problem [TS]
01:44:49 ◼ ► and is a solution to that problem and they don't want me to tell them the solution they instead want me to go on. [TS]
01:44:56 ◼ ► Now that's two those are two totally different unrelated I think I think they are different I don't know that is really [TS]
01:45:04 ◼ ► I think they really defy thing going to really you know I think there are threads here I think there are threads here [TS]
01:45:10 ◼ ► and lessons that connect to you but you're right they are very different for the way she explained. [TS]
01:45:20 ◼ ► I'm clearly I've had my say about how I think sometimes people should be dealt with [TS]
01:45:27 ◼ ► when they express things that make them sad. Let's come to the actual facts of the matter. [TS]
01:45:36 ◼ ► Yeah there's a time out there their family name dying out despair to come to anybody else to care and carry on [TS]
01:45:49 ◼ ► and I think telling him that his name is just a construct of sounds and language attached to it. Alina. [TS]
01:46:00 ◼ ► Each of fleshy watery bodies that are reproducing overtime I don't begrudge none of them around her son. [TS]
01:46:07 ◼ ► But this is I think. OK you tell me you tell me the rational you tell me what he should be said. [TS]
01:46:14 ◼ ► Well here again we're touching upon like a sensitive issue here which is two different things. [TS]
01:46:20 ◼ ► If somebody wants to have children and is unable to have children for whatever reason that's a huge tragedy. [TS]
01:46:27 ◼ ► That is that's just very sad. Yes yes of course and it's why if you want to talk about you know like pet peeves. [TS]
01:46:36 ◼ ► One of the pet peeves that I find totally unbelievable is that it is socially acceptable to ask a couple [TS]
01:46:46 ◼ ► That infuriates me to no end because it's like such a personal issue and people have fertility problems [TS]
01:46:53 ◼ ► and there are couples who want to have children and if they're trying to have children [TS]
01:46:57 ◼ ► and not able to like that's such a huge sore spots of the very notion that it is socially acceptable to to ask people [TS]
01:47:04 ◼ ► when they're going to have children. I just I cannot believe the people. Yes I find that just infuriating. [TS]
01:47:10 ◼ ► YANG It's so rude to do that. Making me angry even just ignorant. I'm on board with yeah so. [TS]
01:47:17 ◼ ► So like that is a totally different issue. Yet that was not the conversation we're having. [TS]
01:47:22 ◼ ► No no no no that is not that's far from the conversation. Yeah so so that that's a very different issue. [TS]
01:47:27 ◼ ► The idea people were literally having a conversation of people talking about hundreds of years in the future there's [TS]
01:47:38 ◼ ► or the name is going to die out there was there was another sort of sub thread about in about I think this guy has [TS]
01:47:47 ◼ ► but he's not going to have a son you know he's not going to have a son to carry our name [TS]
01:47:52 ◼ ► and I find that just just like I just I don't even understand what the person wants or and so there's. [TS]
01:48:04 ◼ ► and get it clarified it's like I don't understand why people care about the name in particular [TS]
01:48:10 ◼ ► and the response was you know it has to do with tradition and legacy and family values. [TS]
01:48:20 ◼ ► A name is is not just a word with a response and I say it's a symbol it's a symbol but surely traditions [TS]
01:48:30 ◼ ► and legacies and family values those have to do with the people I think maybe your living daughters and their families. [TS]
01:48:41 ◼ ► This thing at all if that's cool if there are of course that's true but it's still really sad if someone goes [TS]
01:48:47 ◼ ► and if someone went and I was going to say the Vatican but I went to that's a bad example [TS]
01:48:51 ◼ ► but if someone goes he smashes down an old church you know the church is the people [TS]
01:48:57 ◼ ► and the people could build a new building and still come together and have that community [TS]
01:49:01 ◼ ► but it still said that this five hundred year old building has gone because it was a symbol of what came before. [TS]
01:49:12 ◼ ► Something like I think it was a destructive if if if it just fell down from old age [TS]
01:49:31 ◼ ► and it's sad to see the end of if you're watching a film of some and walking across the desert [TS]
01:49:37 ◼ ► and then right at the very end of its journey a rock falls on gets squashed. You can say Oh well it was just an ant or. [TS]
01:49:44 ◼ ► Well there are other ants but it stew said when you've seen something go for a long time and do carry on. [TS]
01:50:06 ◼ ► and they all want to see what I'm saying is attach those emotions to the symbol that is a name. [TS]
01:50:14 ◼ ► Because that's what this person's doing. I know that's what they're doing. I can't understand I can't understand why. [TS]
01:50:23 ◼ ► I mean here's here's here's the here's the deal you know you understand symbolism this if this person who wrote that [TS]
01:50:29 ◼ ► read a comment was taking the position that I don't care what happens to the rest of my family [TS]
01:50:34 ◼ ► and if they all have horrible diseases and end up in jail I don't care as long as they have my name. [TS]
01:50:45 ◼ ► And I'm saying well hey man you're putting a bit too much emphasis on the name here [TS]
01:50:50 ◼ ► I think I think they have got things in a bit of context I think that has to be sad that a symbol that has been going [TS]
01:50:57 ◼ ► for a very very long time because of a series of events and coincidences or happenings that you [TS]
01:51:07 ◼ ► And and there's nothing wrong with mourning that loss and feeling a bit sad about it and I'm not saying I should go [TS]
01:51:14 ◼ ► and jump off the Golden Gate Bridge that was unreasonable that I think it's perfectly valid to mourn the passing of. [TS]
01:51:26 ◼ ► An old tradition but you know I'm like that I like old traditions I like old stuff it is just a name [TS]
01:51:38 ◼ ► This isn't just a little little Eiffel Tower souvenir and I name it name is a very powerful symbol [TS]
01:51:51 ◼ ► and I'm sure that person hopes that their descendants you know honors their daughters go on to do great. [TS]
01:52:04 ◼ ► I hope that that person is not you know just completely you know to satiating them so from their family because the [TS]
01:52:12 ◼ ► names are continuing. But I still completely understands that little bit a little twinge of sadness. [TS]
01:52:17 ◼ ► There's been this long line of that name for however long. And it's and it's coming to an end. [TS]
01:52:22 ◼ ► You know that's just that's the world kicks spinning but there's nothing wrong with being sad about. [TS]
01:52:29 ◼ ► I completely understand what that person saying I understand what you're saying to you know this is your you're you're [TS]
01:52:38 ◼ ► pretty cold you're pretty coldly rational about these things. You don't you're not sentimental. [TS]
01:52:45 ◼ ► But I guess there are going to mentor people or I you know I still I feel like I have a hard time understanding. [TS]
01:52:52 ◼ ► So I have a hard time understanding that the position and I know I know you don't. [TS]
01:52:58 ◼ ► It's just a sentimental attachment to something that's been in the family for a very long time. [TS]
01:53:12 ◼ ► and I know that you don't want things it's like it was some watch that had been in the family so I was I was just I was [TS]
01:53:17 ◼ ► just as I use that as a as a counter-example because that that is a case where I have I have no space in my heart for [TS]
01:53:27 ◼ ► but I can go there I can intuitively understand why other people place value on objects that have been in the family [TS]
01:53:35 ◼ ► and I can get that you know you know you pass down your you know great grandmother's engagement ring [TS]
01:53:41 ◼ ► and you know names and file names of very very powerful to us. C.D.P. Gray owner of C.D.P. [TS]
01:53:49 ◼ ► Gray You Tube channel now you have a very pet names of powerful things that we that we are very attached to [TS]
01:53:56 ◼ ► and very much part of us and I can understand the sadness. At losing one. What you say makes sense to me. [TS]
01:54:10 ◼ ► But you're not taking sentimental you're not taking sentimentality into account enough. There's no right or wrong here. [TS]
01:54:30 ◼ ► OK Not that I'm not I'm not going to lie but that's because you are right but you're also the other guy's rut. [TS]
01:54:47 ◼ ► and I can understand I can understand the physical objects thing even though I personally don't feel that I can see why [TS]
01:54:52 ◼ ► do other people feel that it's then the name thing I don't know it's strikes me strikes me as especially weird [TS]
01:55:02 ◼ ► when somebody has a family they think they already have children it's just that by the conventions of the world that we [TS]
01:55:15 ◼ ► I get that I can totally understand it this is wrapped up in the question of do you have children [TS]
01:55:26 ◼ ► but they're not going to pass on the name that makes me sad is I don't know I feel it will become comes around this [TS]
01:55:32 ◼ ► becomes about you know first world problems relative typing to doesn't like this persons complaining on Reddit you know [TS]
01:55:48 ◼ ► and everything's OK If this guy was wandering around the plains of West Africa to people who were dying of starvation [TS]
01:55:54 ◼ ► and and asking for their sympathy because his name was coming to an end I would. I would say one thing about me. [TS]
01:56:05 ◼ ► but I'm sure he would recognize that as well yeah yeah all the other things I worry about in my daily life I think I [TS]
01:56:14 ◼ ► and so I likewise comparing comparing his mourning of a name to people who haven't got you know progeny who would like [TS]
01:56:29 ◼ ► And I don't think he would and I think he or she is doing now but it's a good fun discussion. [TS]
01:56:50 ◼ ► and things it does make me wonder about what you think about like you know the deeper deeper meaning of life [TS]
01:56:57 ◼ ► and legacy and what we leave behind and do we worry about that and what happens next. [TS]