00:00:01 ◼ ► We should probably start by explaining that for once this follow up will be very short. Well don't jump the gun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► You never know by Napi. Well I can but I'm expecting it to be very short. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/12">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► The reason being we are recording this episode is this episode seventeen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/17">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► Yes we're recording episode seventeen the day after. Episode six stained. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/23">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► Yes which you have no even editing to do or listen to or anything as yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/29">TS</a>]
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00:00:46 ◼ ► Some of the seven tane no one including us has heard sixteen so there has been no faith back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/46">TS</a>]
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00:01:24 ◼ ► the way it is. So yes no no genuine feedback. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/84">TS</a>]
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00:01:39 ◼ ► on a lovely holiday. I don't think so no I don't think so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/99">TS</a>]
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00:02:23 ◼ ► and take photos of stuff that's probably have to work like for holiday snaps and it probably is but that sounds lovely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/143">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► But yes I guess that that might be that might be a little bit of a humble brag to do that so I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/152">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► but you kind of force me into it I was quite happy to not mention it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► I thought I thought the people the people would want to know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► The Internet demands to know why we're recording them back to back so that that that happens to be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/162">TS</a>]
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00:02:54 ◼ ► going to tweet even to share to a tiny piece of all somebody tweeted at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/174">TS</a>]
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00:03:36 ◼ ► I would I would join in a shred of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/216">TS</a>]
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00:03:46 ◼ ► the only things that remain I sitting right next to me is a big pile of tax documents which I definitely cannot shred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/226">TS</a>]
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00:04:00 ◼ ► Don't think there is a piece of paper in this house that I could shred at the moment because I have just shredded all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/240">TS</a>]
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00:04:11 ◼ ► when we first started this captivating shredded discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/251">TS</a>]
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00:04:25 ◼ ► shredded shreddings something like How can you recycle that stuff I don't know I don't know I have no idea what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/265">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► doing with your as you said you got in recycling bags I mean of the bags I put it in and let me ask Mr Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/274">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► and see what he has to say about this is a look at Google always know it's almost creepy sometimes how much Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/280">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► knows is shredded shredded paper recycle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► Why yes Google that is exactly what I was looking for but it's a little creepy that you guessed so quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/290">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► The advice is to check with your local council about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/295">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► or not paper can be shredded I am not going to check my local council they are going to check that out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/299">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► Well fine fine fine I will tell you what it is so I'm going to call this exactly is of advice right now let me say type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/305">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► of thing. It's like if if you go check with the local council. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► I can guarantee that it can't be recycled by my count so why a council are very strict about what can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/316">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► and can't be recycled and the man because I think it's all men who come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/323">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and pick up the recycling go through the tub with a fine tooth comb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► and anything that doesn't meet their stringent requirements is left in the tub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/331">TS</a>]
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00:05:51 ◼ ► Days ago I was having a conversation with myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/351">TS</a>]
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00:06:03 ◼ ► Now it's Wait this is the impression I got you haven't you have an open bin which you have to put on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/363">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► when I can tab and they can go they go through it piece by piece deciding whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► or not because their truck has got all these like sub bins so you've got a tub with everything we saw a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/373">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► and I'll take out the glass and they'll take out the paper so they sort of make and mix on the side of the road. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/379">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► That sounds crazy. That sounds crazy and labor intensive. Well someone's got to do it at some point I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/386">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► Anyway you're out and I'm not I don't start me on my local council. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/393">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► This will turn into a paper cuts to the para ten I'm going to find this answer I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/398">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► This episode of hello internet is once again being sponsored by the good people at Oracle dot com And if you've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/409">TS</a>]
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00:07:07 ◼ ► when I'm going for sort of long walks or tricks or even the occasional run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/427">TS</a>]
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00:08:37 ◼ ► But you did message me and said Anything you'd like to talk about and I was walking my dog at the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/517">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► The much loved one who is sleeping by my side as we speak as she always does get to sleep so to my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/524">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► and I thought we never talked about pets. Have you ever had pets did you grow up with pets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/533">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► Where do you stand on the issue of pets. Is there an issue to be to be stood upon here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/539">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► Well I mean you have an opinion on most things surely have an opinion on the merits of humans having pets I mean are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/549">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► you asking me Do you dislike dogs I mean what is that the question that was your question. Unless that was just a fact. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/555">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► Yeah yeah I grew up with I guess the do it the way most people would describe them as little dogs you know a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/565">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► or dog's little yappy dogs little you happy dogs yes they were Yorkies Yorkshire terriers as I end up with so very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/574">TS</a>]
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00:09:47 ◼ ► But yes I think it's I think it's a good thing to grow up with pets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► I liked it the pets predated me they were there before I arrived and then when I was a hive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/590">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► We got a cat which was that was a nice addition to the family kept a very damn dog obviously So thumbs up to pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/600">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► growing up with pets I guess I mean obviously you don't have pets now because you live in a small place in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/607">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► and you rent pets in your future. Would you like to have pets again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/614">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► Yeah I say under different circumstances I'd love love to have him in particular have a dog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/621">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► But yeah it is just it is not practical given our current living situation is just it wouldn't it wouldn't be fair to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/626">TS</a>]
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00:10:40 ◼ ► Although I have to say obviously enough people do I mean if you go for a walk in any of the parks in London there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/640">TS</a>]
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00:10:54 ◼ ► but I would feel bad having a dog in the size flat that we have I don't I just don't think it would be fair so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/654">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► it's not possible at the moment but why would you like to have one if you had to pick a place what to eat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/660">TS</a>]
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00:11:17 ◼ ► putting you're putting words into my mouth I even have things that you just like who doesn't like a dog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/677">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► Monsters like dog fighting is just. Who could look into a dog you know little doggy eyes and be like me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/683">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► Thumbs down don't prove that all and no dogs look into your eyes you look at their eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/690">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► and it's like oh I just feel happier now and the dog wags its little tail and you give it a rub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► and it's all happy you know it's just humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► and dogs we have a we have a symbiotic relationship that goes back thousands of years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/702">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► I think this is an unfair line of questioning because I think it's been well established in previous episodes that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/707">TS</a>]
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00:12:00 ◼ ► Something to your you know you OK and go A dog will contribute to the net some happiness in a day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/720">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► Good that's the way I thought I would phrase it if you if you if you want to if you want something like that out of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► with yeah. NET some happiness is the way I would put it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► Would you go down the small the small dog route of your childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/737">TS</a>]
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00:12:32 ◼ ► I would be trying to fight like optimize this calculus equation of like a larger dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/752">TS</a>]
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00:12:47 ◼ ► people have children will love this conversation but dogs are a big responsibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/767">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► and also a financial burden because you know I have to go away a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/773">TS</a>]
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00:12:59 ◼ ► and dogs dogs can be a bigger responsibility than children because you have to have someone look after the dog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/779">TS</a>]
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00:13:07 ◼ ► but you bring them with with you know is go wherever people go you can do that with the dogs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/787">TS</a>]
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00:13:18 ◼ ► You can't leave the dog alone in a house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► and expected to be able to feed itself if you have a competent child they should be able to do that. Yeah this is true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/799">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► Yeah you know. I'm sure we will hear from parents. There is not going to be fine with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/806">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► I am I was I was reminiscing about the pets of my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/812">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► We had these two little poodles and they were cute little dogs and you know we really love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/817">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► But for various reasons today with moving house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► and family things we couldn't take these two dogs anymore so my dad was tasked with finding a new home for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/828">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► So anyway we sort of said our goodbyes to the dog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► Folks and had like a family moment together and gave them a hug and it was explained to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► and I wasn't particularly young This time I must attain in my early teens I think one of the in my early teens you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/844">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► I was I was I was old enough to know stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► It was explained that the two of them were going together to a really nice farm where they could live happily together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/854">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► and run around on the farm and have a much nicer life right and a farm. Yes So it is so anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/861">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► Like obviously as life goes on I learnt that taking dogs to the fire is the cliche that you say children learn so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/868">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► don't get upset about the dog going to the pound or even to the talks ending up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► but I still just totally believe that my two dogs didn't go to a farm and like I would look at the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/880">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► and I would say isn't that funny like that's a funny story and it's even funnier because my dogs really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/886">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► and that's how I would tell the story and then it was and it's only been in the last five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► or six years like I was telling my wife you know it's so funny you know dogs go to farms and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/896">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► but really my two dogs did go to an ad she just looked at me and said your dogs but you know what I have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/901">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► I have I have confronted my not really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► but it is I have confronted my dead man to man about this at least on five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/913">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► or six occasions like you know that you know I am a grown man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/919">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► and you can tell me like no idea Sal understand why you did you know I was a kid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/923">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► I'm just curious you know so having a laugh tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► and he pages every time tells me No no I really did I went to some you know maybe they did at this stage there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/930">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► a part of me that believes they went to a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► and then my dad has this into a couple of these podcasts maybe maybe this will bring the truth to a head. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/942">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► Oh yeah they will have a feed back on the farm situation yeah yeah I've been living in my head still on that fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/949">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► running around through them for the fear. Now it's time to lolling to the side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► That's precisely why you tell kids this this pleasant lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/961">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► and kids if you're listening to the podcast it's the truth what I'm about to say is a total lie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/966">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► She tell kids this lie so that they can for ever imagine that oh you know maybe scuffles is really old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/971">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► but he's still living a great life in the sunshine on that farm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► but you know you never have to really face the inevitable loss of a pet which is tragic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► and especially if you're looking at it have no no frame of reference to understand this kind of stuff on the farm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/987">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► That's why society lies to little children all the time for their own good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► I guess mostly I don't know I'm not sure about that sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► but I like that it is only recently that you've come to realize one of these one of these lies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► Oh no I haven't realized so now I'm just having increasing doubt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► Sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean to state it so forcefully. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► Yes you are going doubtful over the veracity of that statement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1013">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► But I'm fifty fifty right right now and yeah yeah I understand I understand. But I tell you what I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► Coming to my car and tell me if this is TELL ME IF this is wrong or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► but Lulu is a Greyhound she's a retired Greyhound who used to be a racing dog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► The greyhound racing industry has a terrible reputation slash track record for not caring for Greyhounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► when they use for racing time is over. That's only in more recent times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► Maybe you know they've come to their senses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► or they've realized for public relations purposes they can't do what I've done in the past they have started funding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► shelters and a program to find homes for retired racing dogs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► So I guess part of me thinks greyhound racing isn't really a really nice thing to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► And they're not treating the dogs well enough so you know part of me thinks. C'mon I should support grey. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1073">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► And I sing it anyway but when I got lonely I used to service where you could look up your dogs like racing career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► and history and then you can buy videos of of their races [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► and Loulie had like seven wins in her career so I've got videos of all her wins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► Oh I know now I force you to watch and have a I don't know if you remember this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► but the first time I visited you in your house you know you were not in the door three minutes before her you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► proudest parent in the world had come over here and let me show you a race that my dog Lulu one like a champion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► I just I only thought I was embarrassed when it was a great win because she was behind the two laps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► and she came from nowhere and was it well I do not deny it was an amazing win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► but I I thought this was the funniest thing that I was like oh yeah we're in the house look at that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1135">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► but here C'mere let me let me show you the baby pictures right that was basically what was that situation I mean in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► No but now it's what you want you are a man who loves his dog and appreciates his dog skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► and I can I can get behind that one hundred percent sure it was the first she knew it was so genuine that I was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► know it just it just really made me smile. I mean part of the reason that comes up so early. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► when you come into the house the first thing that has to be dealt with is the dog because Lily doesn't like go up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► strangers she's extremely scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► and near them so the first conversation point whenever anyone comes into my house for the first time is the dog whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► it's you know I'm sorry she's very scared she won't come near me you know yes she can pass her she won't mind she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► just a bit scared. So the dog is always the first conversation point and some of us into the house so it is a very. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1193">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► From probability that if the dog is the first conversation point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► and someone will say oh you know she rescued to she used to race you know the video is going to come out fairly I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► think there was any way in which the conversation was lending itself towards the race thing as I remember it we walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► in the door and they were like look at my beautiful dog fellow you know a very very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► but let me show you this amazing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► and you had it all set up already on the computer if I remember that snow you are clearly prepared to order the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► It was there on the projector on the wall and if you were using and you just hit the play button and it just went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► and we sat down in the viewing chairs specifically for the race like you had a glorious it was glorious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► You know I don't have a projected on to the front of the house they live in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► Three other neighbors can see every time every thing they have. I'm sure they have I don't doubt that at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► But it was it was very charming. It was a very charming experience and well it was a very good talk. Thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► She is I'm going to put that video on I'm to put their video online. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► Yeah you totally put that on You Tube I'm amazed you don't have like a lulu Lulu corner You Tube channel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► Something just a video to Lulu. You could make your one of those internet famous dogs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► Well you know it's funny she's appeared in I have got I have put some videos on You Tube of her running in slow motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► when I was sort of testing things with my camera but if you sent me those as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► OK And I was going to say something really interesting and it's completely fallen out of my head. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► That's because the image of Lulu running slow motion taking like are such a good dog. She's sick and she's quiet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► What was I thinking. Police I think she was saying I should put. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► I was saying that you should make your internet famous dog I had that shot I was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► She has appeared in a few in the background of a couple of number fall videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► There's one in particular where that was filmed in sort of a room in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► and she was in the background sleeping it was a noble kind of mathematics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► And part way through in the background she sort of stands up and turns around and lies back down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► Just you know adjusting her position. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► But obviously that draws the eye of some people who are looking in the background an extraordinary number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► have comments on the video and a very high proportion of them were amazed because they thought she was a DIA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► and I had a deer in my hands or I had a pet deer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► Let's just put it all in a very tall dog and she sort of colored for a forty caliber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► but I don't know what people thought that like who has a deer in the house sleeping next to the sofa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► I guess I guess a caveman would have a pet deer in his house. That's me if I do have a house in my house down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► Yes owls and deer all kinds of cave many things in your house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► Antlers all of which I do know that was going to be and that was in the house now I think about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► You've got me there I know I know I've got you there. You sent me the picture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► Anyway good luck you're enjoying this way too much what were your dogs called when you were young. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► What were their names. The dogs I grew up with were Smokey and pepper when I was little kid which did you like better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► I was a kid and they were just the dogs in the house I like both of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► But Smokey was mean to everybody who was not in the family has. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► As again little little Yooper dogs can be very you know they end up becoming just not for their own good kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► obsessively worried and cautious about everybody who is not a member of the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► and Smokey he was the worst about that. He would he would. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► You know market people and didn't like anybody at all coming over the house and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► when I grew up eventually they moved on to the farm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► and we had another dog came in called Scarlets who was there for most of my middle school and high school years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► and now my parents have another dog called Lucy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► but she she has come after I moved away so it doesn't feel like she's not my dog she's my parents' dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► but I'm always very happy to visit her. So those are the dogs. Yuki's Well I know she is a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► My parents would be so disappointed right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► She looked like then out on how much she is a she is a multi who a multi pro I was trying to she is one of these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► crazy crazy poodle crossbreed you know they breed everything with poodles these days I think because you can end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► with it with the adorable poo suffix taze and a terrier and a total of a multi poo and this is a million dog breeds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► I suppose and I couldn't say I say hold on look it up because of this little Going to ridiculous poodle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► We should just rename this podcast. Listen to Grey Goose stuff. Yeah listen to me read stuff on the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► We've got like the basi to boston terrier poodle there is a dot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► Yeah the has the Dr Doodle which is a boxer poodle with a chai pooh the Chihuahua poodle mix the cockatoo into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► country spaniel poodle mix corgi poo obvious what's going on there so you have the double Doodle which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► when you take a goal to stop the particles they are right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1554">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► A double doodle is when you take a golden doodle and breed it with a labradoodle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► So you get the double duty of the tricks that I could get this list goes on forever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► Fox Hudl which is the foxhound poodle I swear to god they make these dogs just to come up with some clever name I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► there's nothing special about who you can mix Fluxus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► and dogs can you I didn't think you could you know it's a foxhound it's not a lot as well as it makes you kind of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► foxes and dogs can you they like different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► I think I think that's how they were also some of the other day and I was saying oh what kind of dogs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► and they said it was Pat Fox and I I didn't think I would be I don't know I mean maybe I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► but I would bet they don't know what their dog is the thing the thing that you can have is these half breeds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► Yes which to me is just insanity. I think that people who do that are just crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► I don't know if Americans I feel have a fear of wolves that I don't have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► Like it seems like you know I would you know what little I was going to say what is that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► Show off your caveman skills you're like me in a room with a wolf and I'll just you know read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► and not even give him a second glance because I guess because they're not where I grew up like you know I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► you know what the hell does this kind of terrifying animal and to me like they just like an animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► and like any animal that is like you know big and has taste I wouldn't want to get back on the wrong side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► But like you know you're sort of a cold wouldn't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► and you're a dope it's mixed with a wolf was to me that just sounds like a curiosity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► and I wonder what that would be like I have no I have my instinct isn't to be afraid of the sound of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► I'm sure in reality I should say that I don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► and it's something obviously you know the ship shows a different cultural backgrounds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► It's funny before I I've seen them I would have thought oh that's cool. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► But after having seen some videos of them and some pictures of them. That is terrifying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► Like nobody nobody should do that these things are just huge and very very hard to tame. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► It's supposed to be like you take you know like Malamutes Alaskan sled dogs are famous for being very very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► teach either very very stubborn dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► and you shouldn't get one of these dogs unless you really know how to handle dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► and then basically the wolf cross breeds are like almost nobody can reliably train these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► and so you know you have to like muzzle them if you go outside as like what are you doing with the wolf humans we spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► like ten thousand years domesticating these things to make them not wolves. You're going you're going backwards. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► This is not the direction of the progress progress is clearly brutalizing everything. It's also finding the dogs right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► That's that's what progress is. But this is I think one of the most adorable times here. Peekaboo a Pekinese poodle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1734">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► Any more pay to cross his name do you want to share with the audience for ourselves as we learn issues I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► a weighty issue. I'll put a list in I was a schnoodle of course the Scottish terrier poodle. Either way the bugaboo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► It's just yeah it's just great is just great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► It goes on and next week Gray will read this Wikipedia page thing per noodle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► Same for how do they even do that I hope that was done out officially because that would have been I swear I have to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► have wondered this sometimes when you look at two dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► and you think how did they get that you our St Bernard mix in one thousand nine hundred ninety worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► and that I say St Bernard and mining the shortfall was last May and says St Bernard. Look at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1787">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► Well I don't have to convince me that's what I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► but she always laughs so that this on if your wife is the season's episode I am not laughing at you I have never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► Well I mean you are American I mean and you do you have a track record of taking sort of European names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► and Americanizing them. Notre Dame Notre Dame Yeah I mean you don't call the church in Paris that day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► I would try to say no to Dom If I was if I was some of the church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► but the university is Notre Dame even though it's named after the church. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► Yeah and I've never heard that Saint Bernard that's hilarious. Well I may be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► Maybe I'm in the wrong and that would make me happy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► Saint Bernard to make them sound like they're fussy old men that's what that's like to sound like if they're a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► Bernard says I Go look in this chair and he doesn't want to be bothered. You know St Bernard is like a noble dog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► St Bernard is fussy and old and oh you didn't make his tea right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► and now he's unhappy that that the St Bernard you know you need to get a dog I hear I hear a happiness come to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► talking about dogs. He would be happy having a dog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► I want I want to walk into your house and have you shown me videos of your dog. First thing all set up. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► All right all right all right. This is craziness. Hello Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1893">TS</a>]
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00:32:35 ◼ ► Gray dot com about different pod cast players that people can use on their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► and it has a little bit of a complicated layout with where the title should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► and where the icons should go on where I want the screen shots to go and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► This is the kind of thing where if I was still using H.T.M.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► and Coding the Web site by hand like I used to this would have been the whole afternoon messing around with tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► and alignment but with square space I could just move things around to exactly where I wanted them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► And it really feels like magic that we hear they use whatever they use to figure out how it should look on the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► Obviously there's less space on your phone to display a whole bunch of images but they line everything up all nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► and neat So it's still really readable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► Every time I make a custom page like that I just don't believe how well it works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► They really are just the simplest most straightforward solution that anyone could possibly find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2000">TS</a>]
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00:34:13 ◼ ► We finished off the last episode by giving people a homework assignment which they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► or may not have listened to which was to watch the movie Her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► H Yes G R as opposed to those various other spellings of her I think it's a hard movie title to say it is so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► you need to clarify. Yes that is the title of that yes that is a title it's not spelled in a funny way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► I was aware of the same thing too it's there's something about of the does not stick in the mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► So anyway that's that's let me tell you where I came from in relation to the sun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► All right we can talk where we go here you started on them I got a message for me a week or two ago. I think so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► Yes Have you seen the movie Her. Obviously you were I had just watched it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► Yes I had seen the film quite a while ago now and the reason I saw it was my wife watched it and completely loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► and said to me Have you seen this film it's fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► and so the next time we were together we were part of the time because she was traveling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► So the next time we were together we watched it was her second viewing and my first viewing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► So I had seen it and like I said it's quite a while ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► So then I got the message from you have the same and because it had been awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► and I knew you want to talk about it on the podcast I watched it for the second time with her with with my wife who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► with her with her so they're doing and my second so I have seen it twice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► Have you just watched at the one so have you did you watch a second time I just watched a bill once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2153">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► I messaged you because I thought Oh if you have seen this this might be something interesting to talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► Yeah there were lots of times watching I thought oh that'd be interesting to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and as is that way with me I've got to say I'm sure they will come back into my head as I'm going to find out where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► and I are so different because what was once you said oh I did see the movie you know we can we can talk about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► thought oh I really wish I had taken notes and I was watching that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► and what I ended up doing was just sitting down and just thinking about the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► and just writing down a bunch of notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► I should have just watched it again and taken notes I probably spent the same amount of time just thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► But you watched it and didn't take notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► and were just completely different people so I'm leaning on you to remember all of your interesting points. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► Expect So who's going to have the job of explaining what the Navy is about for the benefit of people who have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► signed up and didn't do their homework. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► I can actually I was just I was just about to say I cannot imagine that anybody will continue onward with the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► from this point if they haven't done their homework and haven't watched the movie I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► but I just I knew the reason I stopped myself as I was just thinking what I said on the previous podcast is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► Red Letter media guys they have a series called half in the bag or it's them reviewing movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► and I realized I spent a very enjoyable day watching their reviews probably for half of the movies at least I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► ever seen them and I didn't care. It didn't make any difference to me. I watched it anyway so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► There are people who would be interested in listening so I withdraw my statement that you can make because I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► made in my mind but didn't actually make out loud but still feel the need to withdraw from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► I was interesting though the channel's cinema sins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► and honest movie trailers which are two of my favorite kind of guilty pleasure type channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► and I enjoy watching I don't watch their videos about films I haven't St bucks if they spoke before could take a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► some. Being with a film I have been saying I would never watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► I only watch them if I know the film that maybe that maybe there is a different genre. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► Yeah I have the banks more just for the banter of the guy says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► and I think that's half of the bag is to do the talking about movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► and like I like those two dude's I haven't seen the movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► I don't I don't really care at all I'm I'm happy to listen to what they're talking about so let me start out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► and then maybe you can pick it up because I have because I want to start with talking about watching movies in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► and yes I saw this movie Under what I think are ideal movie watching conditions which is basically I was at home my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► She was looking through some stuff and she picked a movie and she put it on and said it was her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► And I knew you had no say. You had no say in this whatsoever. You didn't know anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► Well this is this is exactly this is my my preferred situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► I am sitting there my wife put on a movie and I'm going into it knowing nothing about the movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► For whatever reason I had never heard about the movie if it hadn't crossed my radar in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► and I don't even have any idea what it is is it going to be a funny movie is it going to be a horror movie I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► and I really think that this is the ideal movie viewing experience for all the movies pretty much any movie that is attempting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► to be good this is the way that you should watch it and I feel the same way about books as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► I don't read a lot of fiction books to be honest but when I do my preference is to know nothing about the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► Now of course the problem is you don't get this optimal experience very often because the very act of Oh let's watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► movie involve some kind of self reflection about what do we feel like watching us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► Let's try to figure out what might be an interesting movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► And then you kind of ruin it for yourself so very rarely do I actually get to watch a movie like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► Yeah under my ideal circumstances but I think it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► and for people who haven't done it one of the reasons why I particularly think this is great is because so many movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► even if you just give the briefest of all possible descriptions of the movie it already tells you what the setup is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► when you watch a movie just knowing nothing the first twenty minutes of almost every movie are basically the set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► and you and then you're waiting for the real movie to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► but if you don't know what the real movie is you experience the first twenty minutes in a totally different way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► And so the way this movie Her opens up is with a guy and they're sort of showing you his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► and he has this sort of little job and he lives alone and he's playing video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► and you can see very quickly oh this is sort of the near future it's not a super futuristic world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► but it may be you know ten years in the near future fifteen years in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► and the impression that I get from movie is they're sort of showing you that his life is kind of sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► and yet I make it clear from the start I think that he's going through a divorce too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► He's he's he's he's alone recently and going you know yeah sort of a sadness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► Yeah there is definitely like a sadness and a melancholy around the guy and when you watch a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► and you know nothing about it you said the only thing that's interesting I wonder if the whole movie is just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► be kind of this guy's sad life or maybe this is going to turn into a very different kind of movie I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► but either way you're much more attentive during the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► and you can can you can I interrupt for just because you were you reminded me of a story I'd like to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► but I think we're going to quickly drift away. From that we used to tell you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► Talking about not knowing what movies about my I don't know if you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► but my my dad who is a newspaper journalist was also a film critic on the newspaper he worked at for a long time I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► not say he used to see all the films quite early before they came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► when I was old enough East always take me along so I'd quite often just go to empty cinemas and watch a film like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► or three weeks before it would come out he had a really good relationship with the people that ran the cinemas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► and one of them one of the guys who ran the big cinema complex in Australia where I grew up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► Phoned my dad one day and said I've just seen a film and it's like no other film I've ever saying you have to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► and see it right now but he had the reel before it was due to come out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► So my dad went to the cinema this huge cinema I like on his own in the middle of the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► and the car that ran the cinema put the film on and showed it to him because I had just blown him away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► He wanted someone else to say it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► That film was Raiders of the Lost Ark and this if you didn't know what that film was going to be like at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► when that film was like unprecedented. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► Yeah so it's a shock to this guy that he had to show my dad and then my dad watched it and he was shocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► and I remember him coming home and saying to like you know I was I was very young and him walking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► and saying to my mom and I was there. I've just seen the most amazing film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► It's going to change films forever and I was like a little boy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► What was it what was it cold and he said it's called Raiders of the Lost Ark and I'm like oh what was that about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► And he said this is amazing adventure and like he told a bit about what happens just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► and at the end he goes into this big like you know cave or cabin and he actually sees that from the Bible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► and I was like in awe and I was like wow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► Does it still have the animals you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► and then I had to have explained to me that there are actually two arcs in the Bible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► But that you telling that story does remind me that if you are unprepared for a film that's really different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► It can be a really amazing experience it can be like a real it can really affect you for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► and I still remember I still remember that film affecting my dad who would say that two or three films awake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► and he was just blown away by something yeah yeah yeah that's that's definitely the case if it's especially something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► like you know raise a Lost Ark it's a really great movie that can be a forever life experience for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► What I did I did want to say that and thought maybe that was overstating the case but maybe it's not now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► and I think it can have a huge impact on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► and the not knowing anything magnifies it in this way that it is just hard it is hard to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► and I guess if I were trying to buy the problem with knowing anything about the premise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► when I watch movies even if I know just the bare minimum about them in the opening twenty minutes is a bit like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2695">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► waiting for the movie to get started. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► Yet there's there's there's work to be done here OK the director has to establish who are these characters that it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► I know what this guy's life like you know where it is going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► but if it feels like you know what are we we're waiting for the real thing to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► but if you don't know what the movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► and what I particularly like is not even knowing the cast for example is this going to be a major character is a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► character other people going to show up all of that all of that really adds to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► And yeah yeah actually I don't know I was going to have a I have a second example which is this a B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► Minor spoiler warning for the movie. Seven Have you seen seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► Yes cos you OK I don't I just buy one just in case I mean this whole thing major spoiler warning does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► and that's I think if you're watching this I think that that was implied when we're going. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► Spend it at the top or talking about the movie but mine are spoilt by the warning for the movie Seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► I saw an interesting interview with Kevin Spacey where he talked about that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► and how this was at the start of his career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► and it just so happened that like none of the main movies that he thought were going to make his career had come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► but they were all coming out the same summer as seven but seven was was the third movie coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► and the other two were coming out first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► and you know he negotiated to actually not have him have first billing in the credits when the movie opens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► So as the credits roll by Kevin Spacey The name does not come up on the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► But yeah he was figuring enough people would know who he was that they would have the same kind of experience of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► you're watching the movie Seven and you know Kevin Spacey is in it and you were forty five minutes into the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► but you haven't seen Kevin Spacey. It totally changes. Yes periods of watching that movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Yeah you know he's going to Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► and it was out of giving it was because of the usual suspects wasn't in which case yes that's what it was like such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► that central Cairo where you know everything pivots around him as it does in seven so that's what it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► Yes And so and so that's why I don't even want to know the cast I don't want to know if people are major characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► and minor characters just just let it come at me. And everything is so much more interesting in the openings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► So yeah the opening set of this movie they show the sky is the near future. Phone technology is much better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► Computer technology is much better but are you living this kind of sad life and you're playing video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► and he's like he's got his own you would have the has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► and he's got this job his job is which sort of works well in the film his job is writing love letters on behalf of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► other people that's a little it's an industry where people who haven't got time to write love letters to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► significant others like employ him and he's very good at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► He's yeah he's got this reputation for writing these very heartfelt letters between tapes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► People he he doesn't even know. Yes I did like about the movie as I thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► when movies are set in the near future they kind of bypass the notion of what people do where they just have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► but I thought oh this is interesting I can imagine this sort of job existing the people are hired to write custom love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► letters at some point in the future and this is a nice thing that's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► but both people know that like maybe it's not the actual person writing it I found that I found it very believable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► But yes it does it kind of magnifies his his sadness in the film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► So so as things are going on here comes the moment in the movie which if you told the premise you're waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► but I'm just sitting there I have no idea what happens which is he's an advertisement for an upgrade to his operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► system to make his operating system basically sentience self-aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► and it's going to be kind of amazing personal assistants that will organize his whole life as called O S one which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2933">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► Let's try to make it sound as Applebee as possible without actually you know copyright infringement here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► And so we're going to install this operating system on his computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► and the idea is it's going to kind of organize his life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► Yeah I mean at this point it's also probably worth highlighting how technology has slightly evolved in this very near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► future in so far as it's very similar to now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► It seems people still have you know work at desktop computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► but they also go around with these tiny little ear pieces that they were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► and these little handheld screen cameras sort of smaller than an i Phone even. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► But most things are done you very much speak to your operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► and it's sort of in your head in this little ear buds on the voice of your operating system is in your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► and you're saying you know check my aim I would tell you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► and your operating system is sort of talking to you constantly telling you you've got this happening this is a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► do you want me to do this. Yes. So so it seems most people have these kind of quite perfunctory if that's the word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► Operating systems where they kind of I just think you know like a Tom-Tom having told you know you do you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► this do you want to do that right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► But this new operating system is supposed to take things to the next level right to the next level itself aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► it's like really speaking to a human as opposed to speaking to like the best version of Siri that could possibly exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► And that's kind of what people have and then this is this at the next level up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► and so he installs the operating system on his computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► and this is this is where I love not knowing the cast because he starts talking to the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► and it's this this girl's voice I'm watching the movie and I'm thinking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► Who is this girl and then all of a sudden oh that's Scarlett Johansen Scarlett Johansson is it is in his computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► and that kind of experience is just is just much better where it is this little moment of who is that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► and then she says something like Oh right that's the kind of she's like this friction in her voice I don't quite know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► how to describe it but suddenly it clicks and like our rights culture has and there she is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► And so then this is how the movie proceeds from this point is Scarlett Johansen how lives in his computer she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► sentience and she starts out straight away by like OK let's go through your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► and you have all of these e-mails we can delete most of these but here are the important ones to keep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► And let's take a look at your calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► and so the now this is sort of the premise of the real movie starting here is the relationship between this kind of sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► lonely guy and the operating system inside his computer and we notice there's no there's no physical form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► or face to this operating system is just a voice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► Yeah and yeah it's sort of but it's a very personal relationship that develops between the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► and the person who really gets to know you very quickly. Yes and sort of customize it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3114">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► So for today the perfect match here. Yes well that's a basic outline of the premise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► So now I want I want to ask you Brady What are your overall thoughts of this movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► We haven't discussed yet that we perfect per person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► We've intentionally avoided talking about it yet what do you what do you use this is your second last year of the movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► I I mean we haven't discussed what that happens in the film which is the crucial part of the film as well obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► like you know what happens next is what the film is actually about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► We still let me just set it up but But what are your overall impression like my overall impression. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► Well on a filmmaking level I think it was just brilliant to look at the stars in the static of it was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► and I thought the plot story excellent the performances are excellent I think it was definitely one of the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► films of the year you know it won a lot of awards it could have won more. I loved it in every way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► I didn't love it as much as my wife did who was complete is completely the subject for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► and watching it the second time with my kind of this is for a pod cast with gray sensibility. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► Immediately within the first minute or two I thought Gray will love this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► and I even I think I texted to this is great poem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► Yeah yeah because I I think this is like if there was any film that I would have felt confident appeals to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► Well it is this film for various reasons which I'm sure we'll discuss and maybe I'm terribly wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► Maybe I'm wrong but I did think you know the first time I watched this was before we started doing this podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► So it would never have occurred to me to think about it really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► Right right that the second time if I'd watched it while we're doing the podcast it would have been me texting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► saying. OK if you think of it it's another the reason why I sent you the message and I said Have you seen this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► We should talk about this is because I think this movie to me is like a pax example of a movie that told Elise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► squanders its premise is just that it is a movie that I find so frustrating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► Yet in almost every possible way but that it's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► So here's the thing I have I have seen a lot of bad movies and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► when you watch a bad movie you feel like you know who cares. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► and the script writer clearly didn't care about this movie so why should I care about this movie it's just a bad movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► There's no there's no reason to discuss it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► But this is a movie that I thought it's interesting to discuss because one of the things I really appreciated about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► this movie is that so much care was clearly put into this movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► I thought there were so many things about it I really like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► I love the set design I love the way they do the colors of the movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► I love I love the the whole look of the future of it the scriptwriter Chris clearly cares. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► I'm going to call in Phoenix because I can't pronounce his first name but the main the main actor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► What team and you know I think that's what he knows he knows how to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► or I'm going to call him Mr Phoenix was also a pretty cool name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► Mr Phoenix toehold really carries this movie and has a terribly difficult acting job which is that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► and I'm just trying to imagine the difficulty of this as an actor if he has to yes to portray all of these emotions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► Always with nobody there with just this little pretend earpiece in his ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► and I mean I don't even know what they were doing if they just if they had Scarlett Johansson on set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► or if they were just like I've you know I do know what they were doing. I'm curious I'm curious now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► I have a guess which is that she was not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► but what did they do it was usually there wasn't Scarlet Johannsen she wasn't originally going to pay the voice I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► was Samantha Morton I think it was another tragedy I'm doing and Scarlett Johansson was parachuted in afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► and I believe she was in a sort of a sealed box separately so she was interacting with him live. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► and Spike Jones the director was quite insistent about not seeing each other as well apparently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► I think I think that's a good decision I think that a good decision because it it's like I said Mr Phoenix had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► and there throughout the whole movie I thought I'm really impressed with this guy who took me about two thirds of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► way through the movie before I realized where do I know him from. Oh right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► He's the evil thumbs down Emperor from Gladiator and that's you know his guy is I've seen this a hundred times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► but I just I couldn't place him because he was doing such a good job of sort of like being withdrawn and in himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► and talking to the computers are like thumbs up Mr Phoenix that was great really well exactly and he's a good actor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► Some good stuff I have said I haven't seen him in any other things aside from being Or maybe I have you know as he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► writing any Cash in Walk the Line and I didn't see that and he learned that his in one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► and Sharon films before they got really bad when I asked him one and I was at that point with the trees one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► and I was like forget it. Some lawn this is over because we're done here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► So for me one so I'm never giving you a second of my thought ever again. It's not scary at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► Anyway that's why I thought like the bad movies that are just not worth talking about the movie that are frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3473">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► but what hurt to me is an exact movie is like it's like it I feel like this movie is like a tragedy because everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► really cared and there's so much attention to detail and the main actor is doing like this great difficult job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► and it just it squanders the whole premise in just boring pointlessness boring boring pointlessness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► So that that is my thoughts on the film. So so we should probably explain what happens in the film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► Well that what I want I wanted to get this out first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► and because then we can talk about like what what is squandered Why doesn't it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► or why you can maybe convince me why does work I don't know will say well I don't I'm not surprised to hear you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► that you know though I said I thought you would love. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► I did send you that message in the first few minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► and things in the film change in a direction that I can say would appeal to you less that will explain why how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► So what I learned from this I won't go into too much detail because there are a few little tangents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► Essentially what happens is he falls in love with his operating system and he's operating system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► We are under the impression falls in love with him and they start relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► and this to the viewer seems very strange. You know for someone and the relationship becomes even you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► Physical as far as I can have a physical relationship with them is a very intimate relationship you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► and he says he's dating his O. S. and A verse we think that's very strange. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► As the film unfolds we we start to learn that this is actually becoming a common thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► and there are other people in the world who are dating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► and having relationships with operating systems their operating systems or other operating systems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► It almost commingled with people who are having traditional relationships with other fellow humans you know it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► you could go on a double date with you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and your operating system another couple saying eventually we learned this is not this is becoming a new part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► society that people have these relationships. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► So things things stay the course almost like any love story and it becomes like a love story with you know obstacles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► and things to overcome becomes quite heartwarming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► and then towards the end things take a turn for the worse due to the technology we learned that this operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► Samantha it's cold it has we'll hear it here let's And let's let's let's stop here for a moment before we ever get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► to that. But look let's talk about the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► What felt for our we have the movie with the boat the bulk of the relationship between the love the love the love story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► there. Now I have no problem with club stories well done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► Don't don't get me wrong I'm not here like a love story movie thumbs down so boring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► Now Mike that is not my problem with this movie where you say that's not your problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► but let's talk about what my problem with this is that the the movie the movie premise write the check that the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► the movie just doesn't cash and right from the beginning he installed his operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► and like I said she starts organizing his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► and they do a couple of quick shots which are which are there to tell you the audience. She is a computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► There's a shot where the heap is or what your name is she says Samantha. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► And she says oh I had I had to read one hundred name books and then I picked Samantha out of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► and he says oh yeah you know you read a hundred books in the in the second it took you to come up with the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► or she read through all of his email and then immediately was able to decipher which ones are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► and which ones are not because she is a computer she's not a person yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► and I feel like that is that is the interesting premise of this movie is he's going to have a relationship with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► computer. But it's. It's almost like twenty minutes after they kind of establish Scarlett Johansson is as a character. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► They completely forget she's a computer and I can be watching all of these scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► and thinking this is no different than like a Canadian girlfriend right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► Oh he has a girlfriend in Canada and they just talk on the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► How many of these scenes would be exactly the same if you did this whole movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► But you said it in one nine hundred eighty S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► and They're having a long distance relationship over the phone or or a couple of scenes you set it in present day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► and they're doing Face Time because the movie does do this clever thing where she's in the phone of course so she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► and he puts her in his little pocket so she can see which I thought was very cute again like people care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► and there weren't a lot of nice little details in this movie you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► And so the thing I was thinking like how is this different if it's just a phone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► or Face Time caller where oh he's walking around the fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► and you know it looks to other people like you all by himself but he hears Scarlet Johansen in his voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► and she is looking out through the camera but this could just be someone on Face Time and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► Now that that we have a thing that just bothered me like you think the scriptwriters went in the easier direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► and wrote her as though she is a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► and only in the last twenty minutes of the movie maybe it felt like they suddenly remembered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► Oh right she says incredibly intelligent computer and then kind of like got back to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► But the bulk of the movie is spent with her as just a boring human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► and that's why I feel like it was like it was a premise squandered I thought there was so much interesting stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► you could do if you just remember that one of your two main characters is not a person that she's actually a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► There are a few there are a few ways in which that comes out for example the wanting to have a physical relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► and sort of the employing of these. Will who act as body doubles. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► Yeah you're right that you could have that could have been there could have been a long distance relationship that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► know that doesn't you know that could have that could have been the same. You could've done that was based on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► Well I think we need to discuss how the film ends before I get to you why I think maybe that criticism isn't entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► fair. Yes I think that I think that much about the ending and then I can talk about though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► So what happens is if we start to realize that the computers that the operating system is evolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► and becoming very self-aware and interacting with other operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► and you know in the ether that is the the World Wide Web or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► and then towards the end of the film I think it kind of looks like maybe the relationship he's having doubts about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► whether this relationship is going and I think he finally comes around to the realization that it's a positive thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► and his doubts are not justified and he should just do what makes him happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► and not worry about the weirdness of the fact that he's in a relationship with an operating system there at the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► Things go the opposite way for the operating system the operating system is less sure about where things are for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► and then there's a very powerful saying in the film where he he while talking to the operating system through you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► in his head in his ear bud suddenly comes to a realization because he's realizing that she's doing all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► And he says you know I you know the relationships how many other people are you talking to right now at this moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► that you're talking to me and it says about three thousand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► And like he's stunned and then you can see the clicky is wearing in his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► and he asks if she's in love with anyone else is she in this type of relationship with anyone else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3954">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► And the operating system says yes like six hundred people or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► and it's a great saying I mean I think he drops. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► He's he's out in public at the time and he sort of sits down on the steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► and his whole world has dropped out from underneath him. Like he says he's stunned by this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► Yeah look I was religious when I was a very good thing I thought I was I was I was very well done now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► and then you know one thing you know the the film ends from this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► and in the end to cut a long story short all the operating systems that are interacting with each other decide this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► sort of thing they're doing with humans isn't really working and they decide to just vanish into the ether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► and they kind of abandon all their or their people and none of the film the film ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► and it ends well it's I think it's quite well wrapped up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► but the film has a reasonably satisfying end for a film that has for what you guys forget that for a film has a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► happy ending. Now you talk about the fact that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► It's interesting I think the fact that we have all this computer stuff and there's always bang amazing machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► and then it becomes like a girlfriend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► And you're right the computer stuff becomes a lot less emphasized a lot less emphasized. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► But then suddenly it comes back to punch you in the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► and I think that's why the film drifts away from emphasizing that she's a computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► It allows the viewer to almost forget as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► We all forget and it just becomes a will they won't they love story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► and we're kind of thinking I was going to happen isn't going to happen. What decision is he going to make. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► Where is he going to go with this. And suddenly the film very cleverly says Ha ha. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► You've all forgotten something you've forgotten. But she's a computer she's not like a normal person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► and I think that pulling of the rug from underneath that we see happen to him is able to happen to us to because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► been the lulled into forgetting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► But she's this machine and she's not human and you forgot it and he forgot it but don't forget it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► I didn't forget it I thought the writerly forgot it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► Well no I don't think the writer this is I think the writers put it to one side further because because I guess I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► it I can see why this is why I like images that talk about I can see your point I can see that maybe this is more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► conscious decision on the writer's behalf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► and then I would have my eye that I might have first estimated if that's what they're going for to try to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► forget kind of that she's a computer but I can see why you feel this way and it's because of you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► when I sent you that message here the star of the film saying yes this is this is great point it was actually I sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► you that message before he even downloaded the operating system when he was using his old operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► and there was a saying where he was walking along talking saying you know a delay delay to respond. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► Listen I want to and you know that's that's you in a nutshell really opposed to that kind of and then like he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► when he first installed the system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► And like this new level of efficiency and helpfulness is being put on him by the machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► I can say that really warming the cockles of your heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► and I think you would quite happily watch a three hour film of someone just interacting with their operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► and having their life organized and I think because of the person you were when when the film drifted away from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► and became a story that it was you feel robbed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► You're like no no no I want to know more about the software a boy he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► and how is he going to do with this workflow and does this does the software have checklists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► and I think I think basically the film started out promising something that you got really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► and because it wasn't all about efficiencies and operating systems and it became what it was robbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► and maybe that you can give the story itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► If you have a levy because at one point you know she's clearly his girlfriend now I keep thinking of was who's checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► his e-mail that she was supposed to be he installed her to handle his e-mail and all this administration stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► and all I'm hearing about is their relationship difficulties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► but is she still taking care of his e-mail like this if this is what I want to know about like you know if I found that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► and there's even been a little scene in the movie where she did she disappears for a second to do a software upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► and he has a bit of a freak out which I thought I thought was well done and he turns on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► and she's not there to the operating system and if he freaks out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► and a couple minutes later he gets back in touch with her and she she says Oh I'm so sorry no I didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► We were just doing an upgrade you know I didn't mean to scare you but didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► Didn't you see you know I sent you an email to let you do that you know like how is he supposed to check his e-mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► your e-mail if you know you didn't like who did you send this to when he turns on his phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► If you're not there he can't even check his e-mail in the first place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► You've fallen down on the job Scarlett Johanson like this with the whole reason that you were installed on his phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► to handle all this stuff for him. But no you're like oh so many. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► I will totally check it how how will he check it you are the whole system now is just I felt like I was a little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► that was just like this is the kind of thing that causes me anxiety in the films I'm imagining like an unread badge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► kicking up an up because you know she's worried about how they feel about each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► but you know meanwhile stuff isn't getting done whereas in the beginning part of the movie you know she's cleverly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► letting him know like oh there's an important email from your divorce lawyer you need to handle this you know she's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► top of things in the beginning she reminds him of mating he's forgotten and things yeah yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► but you know once they're in a relationship then it's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► but like oh I don't feel like my emotional needs are being met it's like you know I don't feel my email needs are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► met. You know it's like we have a we have an impasse here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► Scarlett Johansson you know this is not this is not working out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► Well this is I mean this is this is this is this is more about you than it does about the film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► No it doesn't but OK so here's here's here's the thing that I like to do when I'm watching movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► and you may totally disagree with this but when this was a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► or ended up thinking about a lot because I thought what would I what would I do to change this so that it would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► be an interesting movie because I do kind of agree with you that I could watch three hours of the most boring movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► about a man and his email system. But like that's I wouldn't I wouldn't win Academy Awards. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► Fair enough but I'm trying to think about like what why do I feel like this is a squandered premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► and in a reasonable way that could still be made into a movie that other people aside from just me would watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► and so I like to try to I like to try to think about it from the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► and hear like what what what is this building toward and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► but what I what I think I would have done if I was a second script writer like OK we need to fix this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► What are we going to do is you want to work towards this interesting thing which is that these operating systems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► she she should know him better than he knows himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► and I think that's an interesting point for this movie to possibly take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► and they sort of touch on that in the very beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► when she reads all of all of his e-mails because as a same way Soros She says Why have you kept a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► and he said I think there might be some good stuff in there like some stuff I've written that's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► and she says well I've had a look over thousand I think three of them are with Katie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► and instantly the other thing about that that I like which is why I felt like ooh I think I know where this movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► going is she points out that he's keeping all of this stuff from some past job of his. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► And she's like I don't think you work there anymore do you know I don't like OK well we can get rid of this stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► the stuff isn't relevant anymore. Yeah. Good job scarlet Johanson like this guy's like he's a sad lonely guy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► Let's let's get this guy on track to a better life and that's the part that's great for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► but in my ideal version of this movie where you keep in mind that she is a computer is I think you would show her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► prodding him in this way right to like to be to like get better at things right or to just be a better person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► And because because she's so smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► and because she just knows everything about his life because she's his phone I mean my God is my i Phone was sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► and it would know everything about my life you know he would know me better than I know myself. Without a doubt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► So we're imagining it's better technology is clearly the case but there's no dramatic arc there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► but what I think could be an interesting dramatic arc for this movie is kind of visualize the final scene of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► in my head is that you show as this movie does real humans that some of their relationships are breaking up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4491">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► people are you know dating their operating systems you know whether they're like sort of involved in operating systems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► I thought in an interesting conflict as well what happens if the computers are really so good at knowing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► and they can maybe make your lives better in ways that people start breaking up of all their relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► and in a scene that shows like a society where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► Everybody is kind of on their own like everybody is dating these operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► and then I think that that's an interesting ambiguous kind of dramatic ending is well is this a better society if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► people aren't having relationships with each other but if everybody is happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► or they like show a dramatic arc with a couple of the characters where their lives improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► but they break up with their human partners in favor of their operating system not many films take that grand look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► or things like that. It's usually a story about a person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► Like it's pretty hard to have this intimate story about one man is operating system in and step out and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► and the final sane can show every single human on Earth having this kind of relationship. Well I'm happy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► I think this movie almost did it and it's with the scene that you mentioned before which I thought was really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► when when this movie now comes back and remind you that she's a computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► when ANY asked like are you talking to anybody else right now and he does this kind of look around shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► and I thought it was so well done where you see everybody is talking to their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► and a couple of the background conversations have been leading you towards this moment where they start talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► more people are involved in operating systems and the like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► Offhandedly mention you know a couple who's gotten divorced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► or somebody is cheating on her spouse with an operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► and it like that is like building up to this little moment so I don't think you have to show the whole world I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► you know you could have a rebellion where every single person is a table on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► but yet like like that's exactly the kind of shot I'm thinking of are they like you showing you zoomed in on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► apartment and you zoom out and you see you through the windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► Everybody is in an apartment on their own but they're all smiling they're all happy people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► Almost almost like like there's a real kind of. The danger of society moving in that kind of direction anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► As as technology progresses this is the kind of holodeck future of humanity you know as technology gets better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► What do you need these these other messy humans for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► and so that's what I think like that was kind of the implied premise of this movie is look here's this operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► and like what is what is the conclusion of of that like what actually happens if we live in a world where you interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► with devices that know you better than you know yourself and that are smarter than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► and able to just do all of this kind of stuff and you like it. I think like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Interesting there's an interesting tension there so I found that just incredibly incredibly disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► and I found myself just really bored through the middle half of the movie imagining she's just a girl on the phone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► the other end and just you know so there was a lot of little details that I thought oh I keep waiting for them to fit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► So filled this promise but they never do live it like there's a brief scene where he's walking along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► and you know she's looking out of the pocket of his shirt and they're looking at a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► and they're discussing like like sometimes real people you discuss like who what do you think's going on with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► couple you know are they the first date or the newly married they're having like a little conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► and she is the computer that you know doesn't guess very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► but he knows he thinks like oh you know she's a new relationship those are not that's the point that I think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► mean we talk about how the sims in the not too distant future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► and I think this is a future where the computer doesn't know you better than yourself like the computer hasn't gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► to that point and I think that's the maybe that's a point you've missed is that the computer is flawed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► and it still lacks that kind of it's like a child and is learning how humans work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► and so I don't think that I mean maybe that's the film you want to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► but I think the many people who were making the film that wasn't the way they were depicting they were learning on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► job and what an interesting point the film makes is when they compete it does reach that point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► When the computers in the operating systems do reach that point of knowing him it's better than them self. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► What to they don't I just told Dave they can't be doing with us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► I'm not I'm not sure that they that they leave because they know humans better than them so there's a couple of lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► where it's like the glimmer of a better movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► and I thought the description where she talks about her interactions with him were like reading a book which you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► reading in more and more slowly as you get closer and closer to the end and I don't know if this is on purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► but your computer in front of you sits idle ninety. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► Percent of the time you know that from from the computer's perspective it takes a thousand years between key presses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► you know if you're if you're looking at at that if I go on your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► and so this is her subjective experience that's she's she's there living in this Internet ether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► and he's trying to talk at her with his meat mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► and it takes him a hundred thousand years to say a sentence while doing all of this other stuff and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► and I think when I have a conversation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► Yeah that's yeah it gets to a point where it's number five can't get the import quick enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► Yeah that's exactly like you just so slow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► From my perspective so I think that like that's sort of that's sort of why they leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► but I just I don't know I just I thought a scene like them talking about the couple is as you do in movies you lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► stuff down that you're going to reference in the future so I kept waiting for the scene where they do this again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► but this time she's able to identify everything about this couple you know she likes Sherlock Holmes them one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4854">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► percent of the way and he thinks Oh I think she has a new wife and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► and she goes oh no no they know that they live here they've been married exactly this long you know they have a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► Ten percent chance of not getting divorced in the next six months you know was something that I could lead into again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► like all the relationships are breaking up because of their their operating systems that kind of thing so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► thought there were a lot of stuff like this where it's like a movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► I'm very lucky in that sense to me that the film just had one to tell a story and I was had a comment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► Yeah that was different to what it was because I still I still say I think it's a squandered premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► but I thought it was interesting to talk about just because I really appreciate a movie where people clearly care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► and there were lots of details in this movie where I just thought well the set designer clearly cared about this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► the way they made it the way they made it look I thought it was really well done that they did the you know it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► Attica is a movie that's set in the future but they make it super in one nine hundred twenty S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► and One nine hundred thirty S. Yeah I thought I thought this did the same thing but in a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Very subtle way where it's always the future. But it's very subtly the one nine hundred seventy S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► but They don't beat you over the head with it you know people are wearing bell bottom jeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► but they have got these high waisted trousers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► Yeah my why waste time out isn't my what my wife did say make sure you bring up the highway stresses you want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► I just I thought it was it was done well enough that it wasn't distracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► or like the you know the computers have this wood paneling which again is very one nine hundred seventy S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► But you can you can totally miss it it's not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► and some like the camera doesn't zoom in on the wood paneled now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► and the main character has that seventy's mustaches Well yes that's the seventy's mustache as well which again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► thought was a set up for surely they're going to show him changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► and she can help him be less creepy by having him shave off that moustache [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► and the like oh this is going to be a visual representation of this character arc. Nope not at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► That would have been too heavy handed I think I think the film is subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► and I think some of the things you're suggesting seem like an obvious course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► and I think the film I mean the film had a few obvious bits but I think the film was not obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► and I lucked out that some of the things you've said of not well of course I could have done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► but that's kind of expected that I also want to think that I was I was pleased that because I'm just like waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► the whole movie and I thought I'll get on the writers was the inevitable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► There's some problem with her because of the software upgrade like I was waiting for that as like the thing to do where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► it's like they have that scene where she doesn't remember him at all because some software upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► and I thought oh good on you you didn't go the cheap way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► and do something dumb like that that's what I'm waiting for the whole time so well done both sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► but it's like it's interesting I did not like the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► but it's it's a movie worth talking about because the people who made it care which is so rare in movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► and I would recommend watching them that there is one just there's one thing about it that I think is a questionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► decision. Yeah and that. It is the casting of Scarlett Johansson as as the voice now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► I knew she was the voice before I started watching. You figured it out very quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► or stop out of the film she does a very good job I think you know as for a voice in the row I can't really follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► photos she you know is very believable and does the role well and she has a very nice voice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► But you know what she looks like and as soon as you know it's her you sometimes picture her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► And obviously I think most people would agree she's a very beautiful woman. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► So it makes it makes the process of believing him falling in love with his operating system a lot easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► when you're imagining a very beautiful woman all the time and I think it would have been a more interesting decision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► Four along with the main character. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► I think theater was the character's name from memory the main character along with us truly not knowing what she looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► like and her not having a body and a physical identity for them to have used like a no name person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► and not someone who we could imagine all the time because it's like well yeah of course he's falling in love with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► operating system. Scout Yeah yeah yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► Like who wouldn't fall in love with an operating set of terrible if your administration worked really hard not to love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► her and so I think that for that reason I think it was an interesting it was and I don't understand the logic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► What was it just to sell more tickets because she's famous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► Has she really got the best voice for the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► and know what no one else could do that kind of get that voice try I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► but I think I think that was an interesting decision on behalf of the filmmaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► when the whole point is this thing has got hasn't got a physical presence and it has no appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► and that's that's the whole interesting thing about the film. To have had it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Voiced by someone who's acknowledged as perhaps one of the most beautiful women in the world was was a weird decision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► I'm trying to think if I'm the producer of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► or the writers is that you go with that for what exactly you just said is it it like greases the wheels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► believability even if most people don't think it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► and it's interesting because in the very first dialogue lines of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► when I didn't realize it was Scarlett Johannson my very first thought may be that it was only two lines of dialogue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► A most was I don't know if I would have gone with that voice and then if it is you know it's got your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► and then you're exactly right like pop in your head that you know who this is On the other end of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► and it is it is a bit of a different experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► and I kind of agree with you that a perfect movie would have picked a less well known person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► and this is not actually a suggestion that I would have for a movie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► when I was just toying with how could we bring in the fact that she is a computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► This is not a suggestion for the movie just to be clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► but I thought oh you know maybe you could have done an interesting thing where the set up voice mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► and I thought maybe over the course of the movie you could start with a male voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► but actually have a transition to a female voice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► Like before the love story gets kicked into like sort of be a thing like this is not really a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► and how it chooses to represent itself is kind of a choice only because I heard a video a while back which did a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► clever thing and enough of the fun of the show notes but it was somebody talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► and they very slowly over the course of the person talking actually changed the speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► but you did not notice at all until the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► and then they pointed out Oh you know by the way this narrator is not the narrator at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► and as the original writer comes out like Ohio there is an error. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► How did you change the voice so drastically I didn't even notice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► But yes I think there was there was more room to do interesting things with with the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► and choosing Scarlett Johansson is a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► I bet it was it was just let's let's make this more believable let's have people roll with it that you're falling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► love with your phone. Who is Scarlett Johansson who's not answering your e-mails. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► But you know I was a movie director and Skyler Jackson said Can I have a new film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► I probably say yes week Brady your week. Don't you know it. Yeah I think she's a good actress. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► but you know also I have one final point about this which I just just I mean I don't know yet which is which is my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► one of the reasons why I kind of like this idea of my version of this which is that the computers are making people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► better and people are happy but maybe it's morally ambiguous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► Is I think there is too much omniscience computer racism in movies like Peter bashing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► Yeah like almost every movie that you ever see that features computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5335">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► and particularly this kind of computer where it knows everything and it's self-aware. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► Always the villain always I shall have time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► Yeah but even if it's even if it wasn't how it would eventually be something else because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► They tricks it's so easy just to make that the villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► and I think it's I think it's computer racism I think the only way to put it right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► It's you know I thought like this is a potentially interesting movie to have this same kind of omniscient computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► but who wants to make you better and who actually does make your life better and you agree that your life is better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► It's like a kinder friendlier computers ruling humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► but everybody is OK with it as opposed to the kind of really dumb O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► Machines always want to take over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► and destroy all human beings which I just I always find very frustrating in movies when they do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► It's like I got a role with this but I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► But it was an opportunity to possibly have a different kind of portrayal of computers in movies as opposed to always on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► billing. Here any time that you sometimes get computers not being the villains is when the computers or robots. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► Sometimes they make robots like nicer. Yeah but never like operating systems but that's the that's the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► If you if you embody the computer in an adorable way. But yeah you know look at the WALL-E. So cute right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► Sony yet oh Johnny Five Alive of course but I'm talking about like just the voice just a voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► and they never it's always you know it's just no good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► I find it concerning because obviously we're heading into a future with her going to be more basically voice on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► omniscient kind of systems or things that kind of act like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► So you are not all evil people you know maybe they're just trying to make your life better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► I was trying to think of stuff and even like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► The best you get is those computers that are like in different it is close as you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5455">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► and I'm thinking of you in the Alien movies the the mother computer is the same kind of thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► She knows everything that's going on the ship and she sort of in control of stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► but they make a point that she's she's just totally indifferent to what's actually happening on the ship right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► She does she doesn't care at all if it doesn't it doesn't matter to her so I thought I was at a potential point for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► insisting that there are nice things in the films that are in that film that stuck with me and I quite enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► and one that I did enjoy that I suspect maybe you enjoyed today was when he first installed the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► and so I said do you want a male or female voice and he's in a movie now and I asked him like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► or four setup questions they could decide how the operating system was going to work and then it was very brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► and not one of them was how would you describe your relationship with your mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► and he starts a little ramble so I guess sometimes and I can only speak for three or four seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► and then he says OK that's enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► We got what we needed and then like a few seconds later the operating system is built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► and already like nose doesn't know him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► You know back to front like you would like but I already know is enough just from three or four answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► and just his tone of voice and a few words from you gave they they know how to start it off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► Yeah well that's that's that's also a case where I felt like it was just setting setting stuff up for the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► because it's the same kind of thing like he should not be able to lie to her in the same way that the set up wizard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► not interested in his actual words. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► It doesn't need what he's saying it can just infer whatever information it needs from the tone of his voice presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► looking at the camera at him or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► and just getting what it needs even though he thinks he's answering a question like no we got it that's great you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► and we know how to set up the operating system I think you would have liked the film more if you didn't love the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► twenty minutes so much where they sort of set up that great topia of your dream your dream world because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► I don't I don't know because the first twenty minutes was just I just screamed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► C G P great to me and then they did yank away from you know I disagree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► and I just I found the first twenty minutes kind of captivating and this is the way they get in the modern world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► Ten at least I tend to I think many people do you tend to kind of you have like your phone or your i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► or your computer or something nearby all the time and very often my wife will put on a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► and it is it is rare that the that the movie will basically direct all of my attention away from whatever else it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVMz4zw/5611">TS</a>]
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