00:00:00 ◼ ► We waited so I remember when we were about to record the first episode of series one I said to introduce ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► and like say who we are you know in case people have no idea who we are which is incredibly likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/12">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► and you know you said no and you made a very compelling case for not introducing ourselves in episode one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/19">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► So we did so we did and now that episode nine tain you're saying we should introduce ourselves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/26">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► but I have a reason for that which is today we have been featured on the i Tunes store so there is a greater likelihood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/35">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► that there are people who are listening to this episode as their first episode who really have no idea who we are who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/43">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► just clicked on a gray high button at the top of i Tunes and I'm listening for the first time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/50">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► Hello welcome if that's you alone so I think that this is a this is a good chance to maybe do a little bit of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/55">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► introduction. I guess how would you describe your job to people what is it that you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/61">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► Brady nah nah I'm not falling for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► When you when you said that way we had to introduce ourselves I specifically said that you have to go first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/69">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► Like I was trying to cut you off there trying to get rid of whatever your plan is nine and there is no plan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/75">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► There is just I just don't want to sit and either talk about myself for like twenty five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/81">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► and I have you say I'm great I'm at You Tube videos or I don't want to talk about myself for like eight seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/86">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► and then have you talk for three hours about you know their childhood was like I want to use that line I want to know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/92">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► OK OK All right let me who you do you come here often. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/99">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► Yes I do come to this corner of the Internet quite often I see to be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► and I guess the most concise way to describe what I do now for a living is that I make informative youtube videos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/106">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► people watch is that the way I would describe what I do but I always find it a little bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/115">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Strange trying to describe what it is that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► and I find it very awkward in some social situations sometimes those kind of why I actually want to know how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/123">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► handle this situation. What do you do. Describe describe your job for me now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/129">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► Like I'm a person who doesn't know you at all if it's a stranger like someone cutting my hair or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/134">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► and they ask why I usually say I make You Tube videos because everyone knows what huge it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► and then if they ask what kind of You Tube videos I say kind of science the educational ones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/146">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► Sometimes they're about math so chemistry and stuff sometime in the just about cool stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/155">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► And then after that I kind of see where it goes from there but I just say I make You Tube videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/161">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► and people people don't really care what other people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/166">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► People just not talk about themselves so I just give them the bare minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/170">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► and if they really care they can ask more questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► and then you know like anyone I'll talk about myself for ever if they want me to I remember I was going through US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/178">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► Customs not that long ago and I like going to U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► Customs because they want immigration I should say because they always ask lots of questions about yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/189">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► and then like I have to and it's really nice like you know they're like What do you do You Tube videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/195">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► or what kind of videos and they ask like where you've been and what you doing in the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► and they're like they seem really interested buddies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► If it was like that sometimes and then and then it all ends very abruptly they like Ike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► and I just had to pass go back and show you a way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► But recently I was I was going through it and this guy was like What do you do on that You Tube videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/214">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► and then he was putting like videos on You Tube and I'm not now it's pretty easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/221">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► and then he starts asking me all these technical questions and then he asked me about like Go Pro cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/226">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► and it turns out he was really into like kayaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/232">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► and then he got his i Phone it out this is at the desk in immigration. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► My friend showing me all his kayaking videos and ask me for tips on how he was filming them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/240">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► and what he should do to put the minute we were led by these by the end of that I'm sure the people behind in the queue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/245">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► but I musta been there for a good five ten minutes just watching videos on these I find this we are so different I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/251">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► would find that both incredibly awkward and slightly terrifying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/258">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► I always want to get through that customs gate as fast as possible let me on the other side of this gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/264">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► when I'm on the I'm on the airplane side I'm not on the you are in the countryside I feel like there's only one good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/270">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► outcome here which is walking through the gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► and there are many ways this can go wrong if the customs guy doesn't like you or if they just you know they're bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/278">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► and they want to send you to the special room right for interrogation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► I don't I don't like the situation at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► and if a guy was talking to me for it for a very long time I would just assume that he was stalling while the big beefy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/289">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► guys with guns are going to come out and take me away to some other place I thought I was in the to the special. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/297">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► That's exactly it. No one's ever stuck with a show kayaking videos on their phone. These people are never chit chatty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/302">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► The only thing I can assume is they're just all like so I would be I would be very nervous I would be very sweaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/308">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and twitchy at a point like that and then of course they would feel the need to interrogate people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► and it was that was why I love talking to you because I know I think I'm a really paranoid wearing person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► and talk to you and I realize I'm pretty chilled out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► But I don't think that is paranoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and worrying I think that that is the appropriate response to the situation of going through customs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/327">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► and only one good thing come out in that region the only time I was a little bit worried getting into the U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► Was not that long ago I made a video about how a lot mathematically how the N.S.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/339">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► Was cracking into people's e-mails just about like the mathematics behind it was no political agenda it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/345">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► geeky video but that was the first time it occurred to me maybe making that video has put my name on some watch list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/350">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► and next time I go to the counter that is going to say. Now we don't want troublemakers like you a lot you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/356">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► You're not patriotic or anything and that we're going to but nothing happen. Getting back to what you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/364">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► So when you say I make in these informative videos where does conversation usually go from there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/369">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► Well I'm realizing that I might be taking the wrong strategy here because I know in person I don't really like to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/375">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► about what I do I feel like I would I would much rather move past this part of the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/382">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► and maybe it is it's just like the customs situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► Maybe people can sense that because it seems to me that people are always very interested in what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/390">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and I end up trying to give the answers or answers that are sort of true but not exactly true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/395">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► and then trying to move the conversation right along with them people are much more interested the way I would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► describe it right now. I make informative You Tube videos for a living. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► That's that's kind of what makes it sound like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► when you're like like safety videos like what should you do in an earthquake or how to have how to brush your teeth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/413">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► and things like that and like I don't want to pick you up or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► but I think if there are they are a bit better than that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/425">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► but less helpful I would say my videos are definitely less helpful than that. I'm not conveying any useful advice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/429">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► I mean I guess I guess usually my videos are about I don't know geography I guess is a large part of what my videos are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/439">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► but they're not on any particular set topic they're just there to sort of explaining something that I think is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/446">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► and that I hope other people will think I would I will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► and then you couldn't do this because it would it would sound too much like bragging but I thought I was you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/456">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► If I was describing what you do I would probably add a few words to your description I would say he makes like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/463">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► quirky youtube videos about you know trivial but fun things unique it was quirky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/469">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► and trivia in there to to make it sound like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► It's like something that's worthy or something you have to watch in a workshop at your new job. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/480">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► Yeah I guess it's funny as we're doing this this this little section here now I realize I've never just I've never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► in a situation where I really want to big up what I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► I haven't really given any public presentations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► or anything about what I'm doing so I haven't needed to write a formal interview. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/496">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► I guess that most of the time I find myself that I like social gatherings is trying to avoid the issue which as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/500">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► mentioned people like to talk about themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► and my usual trick for getting around this in a conversation with somebody else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/508">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► Go for as long as you possibly can without asking the other person what it is they do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/513">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► And it's surprisingly hard to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► But I use this to my advantage in social situations where I don't really want to talk about my job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/523">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► and so I will refuse to ask what the other person does for a living. Forcing them to make the first move. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/528">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► So they say oh what do you do for a living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► and then I can say I kind of stumbled through a terrible explanation that doesn't hopefully sound very interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/539">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► And then immediately end with. And what do you do for a living. And hopefully that avoids any follow up questions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/544">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► Why do you not want to tell people what you did you know you do a good thing and you're successful at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/553">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► It's strange working on the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► I feel like I'm a relatively private person and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► when you do something that is on the Internet in public that everybody can see it sometimes leads to strange situations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/564">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► So I had a couple of times when I was starting in my You Tube career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► and I was much more upfront about what do you do while I make You Tube videos for a living. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/575">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► There were a couple of well let's gather everybody around the computer and watch your youtube videos right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/580">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► and I situations and that I find just horrifyingly awkward. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/586">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► I dodged a bullet at a family reunion once with that there was a live Cather all of these people who you don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/592">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Anything about yet you've just walked in the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► but there are going to be maybe thirty people who want to watch now what you do for a living. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/602">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► On the screen and we're all going to then talk about it so it's so uncomfortable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/607">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► Something like that so that's that's one reason why I think I have toned down necessarily talking about what I do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/612">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► with people that I don't know as I don't want this to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► Oh really tell me your Web site let me let me look at at at your work life is it's very very strange I think being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/621">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► working on the Internet where everybody can see what you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► It feels strange sometimes so that's kind of why I avoid it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/631">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► but don't you don't you have sometimes if people ask to see your You Tube video I mean by then are probably are a shine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/635">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► about five videos of my greyhounds they're probably sick. Yeah but I'm going to spend it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/641">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► I think I think maybe I should try adopting your strategy which is to sound really into my own job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/647">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► and then people won't want to hear about it at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/654">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► Oh let me show you some of my videos people will be like oh wait let me get a refill on my drink first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► or I wander off to the kitchen and then they won't want to see a lot maybe that's a better strategy of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► I have caught one photo on my phone that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► and I have like in a folder that I can get to quickly because it comes in really handy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► when you have to talk about your work because because the problem is you work doesn't you know you can say I'm a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/675">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► boring and geeky when you start talking about science and things about chemicals and mathematics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/681">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► and that so you make videos with explosion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► Yeah that's true but the picture on my phone is when we went and filmed inside the Bank of England gold bullion vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/690">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► and the professor and I are standing in front of like all the billions and billions of pounds worth of gold. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/696">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► So I say I do videos like about the elements in chemistry and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/702">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► and people are like how can you make that interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► I put the picture and look at this I don't have that's not interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/709">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► You've got it all cued up on your phone you're ready to just flash it right in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► I wouldn't say I had a I wouldn't say I have it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/718">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► and it's only if the conversation gets to a certain level of interrogation that I that I pull out the photo in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/722">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► But but I certainly wouldn't show someone one of my videos at a party I think that would be pretty dull for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/727">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► but I find that I find if I say handy What are the other things is that if we're running a podcast because on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/734">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► podcast one of the things that we often talk about is our work lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/740">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► and so I do have this forum in a sense where I talk quite publicly about what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/746">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► or the behind the scenes of how videos went or what I was thinking about when making them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► and you do the same thing you talk about some stories behind your work so we have this hello internet podcast which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/756">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► sometimes about work sometimes it's about nothing very much at all sometimes we're just following up on things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/762">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► have happened before. We do seem I spent a lot of time talking about flags these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► Well that was just one episode on a very surface that I might add it was that it was an episode and just a follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/772">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► but that wasn't a real episode we have to do some more flag future yet I think the four new listeners who have made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/779">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► If you haven't if you if you've made it this far you probably haven't figured out where the stop button is quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/787">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► possible the show is called Hello Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► and it is a little bit I think of it as like a conversation with the listeners. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► We talk about stuff and then we read all the comments and the feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► and is a very active forum where people participate and it's very much a back and forth with the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/803">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► but I do think that the little bit of a running joke is that the show is really really should be called to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/809">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► talking. Subtitle. It's not waffling It's an amazing amount of content. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/816">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► So sometimes we do wonder on a little bit but we do sometimes get to the actual topics at the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/822">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► but that's that's what this part of I guess I don't know how would you describe the five years I feel like I just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► know I think it's just it is it's just take videos talking. But not necessarily about You Tube videos all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/833">TS</a>]
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00:15:47 ◼ ► So once again that offer code is. Hello Internet. All one word and we want to thank Squarespace for their support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/947">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► Squarespace everything you need to create an exceptional website tradition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/953">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► and I think we should break from tradition just because you know where is that maybe a couple of new people are listening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/960">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► Traditionally we start with a bit of follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/965">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► We haven't got a lot of follow up from previous episodes thankfully because we we cleared the decks with the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/970">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► episode's epic follow up two hours of yellow up there is there is zero follow up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/976">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► and I don't know if I just want you to know that the word humble brag which has been something we've talked about a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/981">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► lately has apparently made it into the dictionary the is the Oxford English Dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/986">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► or one of those I was going to ask you which dictionary. Now who cares. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► Once a year they have their they have their marketing stunt where they say here are five new words we put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/995">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► dictionary. That's not a marketing stunt Brady that's that's them updating the language. Yeah whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► But how humble brick it did make it in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► Some people thought maybe it was because maybe they were reacting to it being on the podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► I'm sure I'm sure they were I'm sure they were. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► We talked about it two weeks ago and then this week they decide it's time to put it in the dictionary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► I'm absolutely sure that's how that works. That's too much of a coincidence I think it must be us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► I think we can be much more much more confident about it when Brady typing the synonym for hunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► and peck typing makes it into the Oxford English Dictionary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► Then I think we can claim much more credit but all in all because they at least all they at least update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► or add to the definition of free voting that will be that will be my crowning glory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► I will retire from trying to thrust new words upon the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► when that happens I had a little thing on Twitter a couple of days ago where I was I was trying to get people to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► Could they make an entire humble brag into I'm not yeah I'm not going to harp on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► but what it did do is highlighted to me yet again that a lot of people haven't grasped what a humble brag is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► and listen to the last episode where Gray complains for a little bit too long about people not understanding it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1073">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► You must understand the humble brag is there must be the self deprecation. Was it too long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► I'm not entirely sure it was too long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► There were no actually it was raised in the concise that was unfair it was concise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► I'm trying to look it up now to see what Oxford it was the Oxford English Dictionary I want to see what they wrote for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► the humble brag definition. Yeah let me just because of quickly that's a good idea actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► I'll look at this I like this already OK so according to the Oxford English Dictionary it is an ostensibly modest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► or self-deprecating statement whose actual purpose is to draw attention to something of which one is proud. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► That's pretty much how we define that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► I think that is almost exactly our definition I do think that things are going from the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► Yes there is a photo today. Yeah even. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► Everybody even the use of ostensibly there which I think is is the real key word for yes right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► We didn't use that word does. I did use that word did I use that word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► That's why we can say that I used deprecating So together we joined forces to create that definition which was then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► just shamelessly stolen by the Oxford English Dictionary in the space of a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► and put into the dictionary Oxford English Dictionary. Thumbs up for me I like that a good definition yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► Very good I was a little worried. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► Thank you go into that dictionary thing for which I may be speaking of lists of words. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► One other little piece of follow up last episode we talked about the list I was creating of swear words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► and words that cause problems problems in the You Tube comments that I was sort of using his watch words that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► you know make sure nothing inappropriate was happening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► You were you were making basically a blacklist for words that people can't say in the comments. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► I don't want to call it a blacklist I want to call it more a flag list because if those those words can be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► completely appropriately. I'll give you a very real example actually because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Something I'm quite happy to talk about because the person involved has talked about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► Professor Polly coffin my chemistry videos and parody videos has shaky hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► and it's just a family trait he hasn't a medical problem or anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► A lot of people put all has this guy got you know Parkinson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► or something like that making inappropriate comments about his medical condition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► Haiti Haiti has spoken in videos about he said Don't worry everyone I know got shaky hands. My health is fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► Stop worrying about it. But sometimes people make really inappropriate comments about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► So for example I have in some cases put the word like Parkinson's or shaky into the into the on to the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► and that's not because I don't want people to use the word shaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► but if they are using the word shaky I think maybe I should have a quick look to make sure they haven't said his hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► are shaky and then go on into some diatribe about a bunch of inappropriate things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► So so it's not it's not blacklist it's you tell me what it is it's just a list of words for me to keep an eye on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► But also considering that you have thousands of videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► and tons of comments it is probably the best name for it is the enormous amount of work for Brady list of checking over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► You must have how many how many do you have a day to approve or check out how how much work is it for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► I don't know because I don't go into every channel every day but it's no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► It's not it's not that because the list isn't that long. Which brings me to the follow up. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► Someone has him out in the list which I don't know if we're supposed to have this or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► but it's from a famous company and it's then a list of words that aren't allowed to be used in its kind of materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► and codes and things like that it's a it's a technology company and and it was sent in as a spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► and it's not just a list of words each word is apportioned. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► Waiting of how bad it is and there's a big discussion of the word and there's actions to be taken if the word is found. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► Under what circumstances is OK under what circumstances is it to be eliminated. And Anna is completely fascinating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► Yes So I've just opened up this spreadsheet that you sent me which is enormous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► The file sizes is one point four megabytes and it has a few thousand words on it. If I scroll down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► If I scroll down to the bottom of the spreadsheet on my computer here it's almost seven thousand words long words that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► this company wants to check up on the last word on the list is the zipper sniffers which is offensive I guess it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► but if it was funny because word studding was that funny looking through it was part part of this is boy I did not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1369">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► and I'm learning so many new words from this list where there are not a lot of rude words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► but words I have no idea what they mean and then I have to scroll over to the side and it doesn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► It's irritating because this company does not it does not tell you what the word means it just tells you the action to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► be taken under particular context and I'm looking at some of these I think. I don't I don't know what that word means. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► Sometimes it tells you it doesn't tell you like the definition it would just say ah this word is a profanity we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► we don't accept words of this but that's with words that are rude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► and that is a shame for us because we can't learn what these rude words mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► but there are some words where there is a very very long discussion of the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► and like like a C G P Great video scripts worth of discussion on the word for example. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► Samoa is a word here on the list. So there's a lot of words that are to do with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Politics or geography which I'm sure would take your fancy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► So you know regions or places where you know of the contentious places like the Falkland Islands and things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► But I've just I've just stumbled upon some out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► and there's a whole little description about what's on the list you know the Protectorate of Germany some of what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► known as German some out of nine hundred nineteen fourteen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► When you see an occupied the arms are not in fourteen they became commonly known as Western Samoa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► So this whole long and it continues. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► So this is so for countries or places where people could be offended by what you call. These are on the list as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► when I first started looking at the list another thing I noticed where there were lots of numbers on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► and sometimes it was a number that like you know despair was a rude word like boobies or something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► But there are other ones that are to do with you know laws or codes that are used for drug use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► and things like that so this is clearly a list that has been made over a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► and a lot of thought has gone into it and it is interesting reading. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► Yeah I would be I would be very curious to know how. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► How many years worth of compilations of every possible piece of feedback they've ever gotten from any of their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► where someone says oh I don't like your use of this word in this situation and then someone goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and adds another road to this enormous spreadsheet about what they should do under under particular circumstances. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► Guess what I just found on the list was you find Holland Hollands How do you know about Holland it is to be left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► unchanged under most circumstances but it is to be replaced with Netherlands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► when is used to refer to the country of the Netherlands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► and that is all the commonly used to refer to the country of the Netherlands Holland is actually only refers to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► western region of the Netherlands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► The two provinces in this region are called North Holland and supplement the official names of the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► and Netherlands short form and Kingdom of the Netherlands. Long form. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Say look at quickly they did that and you made a great big long video about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► Yeah that's much better than my video that I should have just posted a video saying that you should have would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► Thank you thank you to the person who sent this to I won't name just in case we're not supposed to have it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► and just as a tease I would totally love to be able to post this so that everybody listening could look at it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► it is very interesting but it has to be our little secret so that just for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► but this thank you to whoever sent it in before we crack on can I can I have a Brady's paper cut this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► Yeah yeah what you want to complain about this is this week's paper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► It's more of a paper grace because I don't want to I don't want to create the impression I get too upset about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► especially as you are one of the main offenders in this area. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► Oh wow OK what do I do that annoys you here you know the world is not limited to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► but I do that yeah I don't want to I don't want to come across and I want to come across the wrong way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► This is this is this week's paper for me I'm getting ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► and I actually don't know what these things are code which probably adds is probably going to add to the grade A robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► versus very the caveman element of this I don't like it when people send e-mails with these attachments and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► when you click on them they put something into your calendar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► Automatically Oh these are these appointment things that seems that seems inappropriate to me and I don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► but if you and I were it at you know you know fifteen years ago where we had a coffee shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► or whatever they had fifteen years ago and we agreed that we were going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► and see a movie on Tuesday night you wouldn't then reach over and grab the my diary and turn to the page of Tuesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► and hand write the appointment and that would be my responsibility. That's my My Space And my thing to write in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1671">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► No way Sensi when you agree to make them or do something they send you these attachments and it's like you click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► and then like some booty witchcraft happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► and stuff being written in your calendar you can write after which graph I was thinking I've never done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► but as you were talking I realized of course very often when we schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► when we are going to record one of these episodes I get it in my calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► and then there's a little location on it to say who else is participating in this and I type in your name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► and I don't even think about it I don't even see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► but I guess the computer just emails you automatically because I realize you have complained about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► and I haven't paid much attention sorry it's OK I'm happy I'm happy I'm happy to ignore you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► and you're not the only person who sends them and now I realize you didn't even realize you're sending them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► But and I do understand the usefulness of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► and if I was you know you know I see the point of it I just don't like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1734">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► Comfortable with can I ask you something you can't why do you click it I mean you must you must know that by now that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► little card icon I don't automatically I don't click them anymore I know of any of them once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► or twice in my life I don't click them but I still get it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► OK so you're not you're not complaining that it writes in your cat you're complaining that it exists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► That's what I say another reason I do sometimes click them and you're not guilty of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► but sometimes you have to click them to get the information that you made about the appointment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► Well that's just poor emailing skills on the part of the other person so you know if you need the phone number of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► code for a conference call the where the meetings happening you've got to click on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► and then say as you click on it they've put an entry in my diary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► That's my space stay out of that as I would usually give footie which took root to witchcraft explicit computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► instructions to do something on your own. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► How do you feel about them like when you get sent them I have arranged my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► If in such a way so that I very rarely have to take a meeting of any kind which I think is a big difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► your working life and my working life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► So this is not any kind of issue for me it is very very rare that I have to schedule some kind of meeting at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► particular time and that is on purpose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► So this is not a big issue for me I don't I don't see very many of those cards because I don't schedule very many I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► vouch for that getting you to commit to make anyway would do many things buddy not true I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► and I fully admit that I have a very difficult person to work with sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► and I'm going to choose a word from this root list to describe you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► I'm going to take offense at that and then there will be another row in that spreadsheet of what to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► I'm going to shut this I'm going to shut this list down because it's too tempting for me just to drop in words from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► the way through the front. Fair enough you do you do would you want to have no control over your computer screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► I have no voodoo witchcraft to force you to shut down the I don't know because you're so much more technically savvy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► than they are I don't know that even just making the Skype call hasn't given you access to things I don't want you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► Are you going through my files right now where you think it's magic when you leave the camera on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► and I can still see what you're doing. Forget to turn it off. How do you see that. You left your camera on it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► That's just me not knowing I had intended off anyway. Can you see me now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► No I can see right now you are you remember to turn on a camera that starts good so I don't have to put my shirt back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► on that I am going to show you. Well you know it's been a busy week for C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► Gray when he lets me do the advertisement but here we go this week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► We'd like to thank the good people at Harry's now you probably know who Harry's are by now they're the people that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► these razor sets with the replacement blades you can order online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► and they say they're all about giving you a great shaving experience and I'm one hundred percent on board with anyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1914">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Who wants to improve any experience I'm having. Now these races are much better than the ones I see on T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► Like in these ads for Gillette that look like these ridiculous props from a Transformers movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► The Harry's race is a very very classy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► They come to this kind of understated elegant packaging and the handles for the races themselves a kind of nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► and white he well balanced which I think it's important to raise a bit but what do I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► Now if you go to Harry's website and checking them out I personally endorse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► and favor the Winston which is the one that has a sort of silvery alum in Him handle very nice matches my bathroom well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► although you're probably not trying to buy a razor to match my bathrobe anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► Go for the Winston if you want my advice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► Also with the Winston I think you can have your initials engraved into it which is a nice touch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► But luckily for me it comes by default with an eye for Harry's on the handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► and my share names Heron so I'm sorted all of this aside the most important thing with Harry's I think is the cost. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► They're all that keeping it affordable and the replacement blades come in at less than two dollars H. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► and They're really good blades made in Germany you know they're good if they're made in Germany. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► Check them out at Harry's dot com It's free just to go look at the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► and if you said you used to buy the lovely products and decide to go ahead and buy one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► Enter the code H R I when you check out and you get a five dollar discount. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► Which with products this shape is a pretty big chunk of the process as far as I know they're only delivering in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► United States and Canada and U.S. Military locations if you're listening from there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► But hopefully that will be changing soon because I might be hitting Cymru fields here in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► The website again Harris dot com and the code H R I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► So you get that discount and the people Harry's know you came from here at our pod cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► and by the way for people who are based on previous ads have already bought from Harry's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► and sent me photos of their product. Thank you very much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► Who would've ever thought I'd end up doing a job where people send me photos from their bathrooms. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► Let's talk about your video because it was really interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► It was excellent as always it's been hugely successful deservedly so congratulations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► but I was hoping maybe we talk some more about it I mean it's fifty minutes long though I mean you've you covered most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► of the bases I'd imagine but there are probably a few things I'm sure I'll have a few questions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► and I'd like to point out a few mistakes you made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► and I'm sure there are lots of things you'd like to say about it but for those who haven't seen it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► This is a topic that is near and dear to my heart and has been on my mind for I was I was trying to place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► when this started and I can actually put it pretty consistently at about a decade ago when I was in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► and came across a few things and the topic of the video is basically a bounce. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► To what extent is automation and computer technology going to replace the need for human labor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2093">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► and the economy as that is the broadest way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► or in a more simple way you can say robots are they going to take your jobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► That's that's kind of the more direct version of what the video is about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► You should sort of what you call I mean you can have an excellent auto humans need not apply. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► But I like the robots taught him to throw but they took our jobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► He should've Kota if you're going to be really click Baity should've put you should have called it eight ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► robots will take your jobs. Yes yes I had a really Buzz Feed it up there. You missed a trick there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► It could have been a list video imagine how many more of you that would have gotten the sad thing is it almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► certainly would have gotten more definite words it would have stood him pretty well I say I think of my area a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► already I have to say I was pleasantly surprised I had no expectations for this one so I'm pretty happy about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► So I mean it's a long video with lots of stuff in a mine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► Do we even start talking about what I wrote I don't completely agree. That's going to be my position. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► OK Well let me let let's start with a start with my my position is basically that this is a really big deal coming down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► the road how much automation is going to be in place in the labor market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► and how much humans are going to be finding it very difficult to compete with machines. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► That's that's my my basic thesis I think the most interesting place maybe to start this discussion is talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► self driving cars is that to me that is that is the one thing where I look at this and I really think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► A lot of things kind of hinge on the self driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► and it really is a place where people are going to see this in their daily life in a way that lots of other kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► So I spent tons of time researching and looking up different kinds of automation and contacting companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► and there is an enormous amount of stuff that is going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► But it is all hidden from view in warehouses it's in labs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► and I've gotten some interesting anonymous e-mails from people who work in automating systems talking about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► they're up to. It's all behind the scenes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► But the self driving car which I really think people should call an auto I'm going to try to make that a thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► Speaking of Oxford English Dictionary are you listening I would very much like a lot of it to be your new word to mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► Was that your point was if you borrowed that from someone else you say using it calling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► As far as I know I'm I'm going to call myself coining this as we have discussed many times on the podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► It would not surprise me in the least if somebody else independently has has come up with this coinage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► but I really I really think that you need a different word to describe self driving cars and I spent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2273">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Spent a while thinking about it and in my original version of the script I had it as automobiles. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► I thought oh we should go back to the older term automobiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► but I thought oh I don't like that because it's it just didn't it just didn't feel right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► and so I thought actually autos make alot more sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► and it leaned into this whole notion of they are they are automatic transport machines they are fundamentally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► from from cars so I don't know I don't know about that there are some it does feel right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► I think you've chosen a good word but I see problems with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► First you know people you refer to their cars autos if they've got an automatic or a manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► but I have never heard anyone use that phrase but I like it you know for example like if you buy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► when you buy a new car I say had people say oh did you get whatever menu and I am going to order it with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► and say I've only heard Americans refer to them as as automatics I became me about be curious to hear from listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► and I mean you look in the last of our advertisement so often we don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► but in classified advertisement set off in the called auto pilot has to say as you left I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► but that's you know you're trying to save a dollar a letter on that yeah but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► but then that then becomes the word doesn't but that's how words sometimes abbreviations. Yes that's true that's true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► Anyway anyway that we're getting off. No you're going off track. It's a good name for it but I'm not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► I see problems with it as a code anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► Just because just because that's the most obvious place that we see this transition happening was that the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► important. So I would what I think is important about autos coming into daily life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► So as we know right now self driving car it it works is is not a technical problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► We're not imagining a future world where there will be self driving cars that work. We already have them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2393">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► Now it's very interesting I've read a lot of first hand accounts of people who have driven in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► and in particular leave the Google cars which have more or less free rein up and down the California coast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► and throughout San Francisco and they totally work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► And the safety record now is better than human drivers over the equivalent distance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► It's really quite It's really quite impressive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► So my perspective on this is that the rollout of autos now is really much more of a legislative barrier it is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► And interestingly there are a few states that already have legislation in place too I think next year make it legal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► there to be self driving cars on the road. Florida is one of those states. It was Florida. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► I may have this wrong out of my head but I think the other one was Nevada. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► So this is this is definitely this is definitely coming. And the reason why I think it's important is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2452">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► It's an undeniable place where human labor will just not be as necessary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► So once you have a fleet of autos in a city you don't need taxi drivers and there's lots of taxi drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► and they are going to be pushed out of this particular field of work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► and the other reason why I like to use autos because it's as a broader term is think about all of the kinds of machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► in the world the need to move around and have human drivers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► So one of the other examples are tractors and ploughs in farm equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► and some very you know there are some very interesting videos I've seen again of automated farming equipment just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► driving around harvesting corn. There happens to be a person in there but he is not driving. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► and then the other one that was very very interesting is Caterpillar which is the mining manufacturing company they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2511">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► All in on automated machines they have this whole system and you can go and watch their promo videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► and they already have these enormous bulldozers and trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► and mining equipment none of which requires the humans to be in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► and the whole system requires the barest of oversight from humans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► You know that there are all of these different areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► and to me the thing that's important about this is like this is the first wave where it's very concrete. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► And from my perspective the question that really needs answering is what are you going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► when the three million people who work in the transportation industry suddenly find themselves unemployed possibly over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► You know when when cars come out I don't know how fast will actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► but I bet it will be pretty fast because it will be just so much cheaper they'll be a big incentive to use autos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► And I feel like that that is a moment where we as a society have to come to a question about what are you going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► with all of these people who are suddenly unemployed and this is not unprecedented. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► You know new technologies have come along before that have that have done this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► You talk yourself about the transition from horses to the original autos the automobile. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► And you know we've seen that transition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► We saw you know we've seen computers come along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► and really heavily automate things that used to be done in the ledges and by means of calculating people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► and bookkeepers you know we've seen wave after wave of this and it is up a level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► and is traumatic for millions of people but the world keeps spinning and and by and large people keep ating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2627">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► But I know I mean you are arguing maybe descale is is greater than before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► but I don't know maybe they say that every time. Well we're never going to see change like this again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► Did the introduction of the computer or the introduction of you know the motor car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► Well this is this is the biggest change they could have a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► and then you look back twenty years later thirty years later and it's like yeah that was a big change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► and things changed and we're all still here and I could just see that happening again with the self driving cars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► Yeah I think actually the best the best comparison to make along these lines is actually the thing that I opened my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► video with very on purpose is talking about the transition from agricultural work into non agricultural work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► Very helpful people at the Labor Statistics help me out with some of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► but if you go back to the eighteen hundreds I think it was about eighty percent of the population maybe was ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► percent of the population was directly involved in food production that that the number of people who did anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► other than work on a farm or directly service farms was just a tiny portion of the population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► and I think you could totally make the same claim go back at that point in time and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► And tell people about OK what we're going to have improvements in farming technology which are going to allow fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► and fewer people to produce more and more food and people could say well you know what is everybody going to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► And obviously we got through that transition just fine because we're here now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► Yep so I totally ignore all of that this has been a kind of rallying cry very many times throughout history. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► And there is even a name for it the official name is the Luddite fallacy which is the position that are going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► but I think if you if you believe in the Luddite fallacy you believe that technology reduces the number of jobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► I think that's the right crowd around. Very internet if it's the wrong way around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► I know what you meant but there's a name for this term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► and one of the reasons why I think that is fundamentally different this time is because I look at it this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► You say all right we have we have all these different categories of work that humans can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► and humans can sell their straight up physical labor you can have a guy dig a ditch just muscle power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► Yeah just straight up muscle power and you can it you can be barely cognitively functioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► and then you move up that you keep moving up into things like white collar workers as you know OK well now this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► thinking person's work and as a general statement the economy has has transitioned from in the first world anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► Physical labor jobs into more intellectual labor jobs jobs that require some kind of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► and actually put driving a car in the category of jobs that require some kind of thinking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► We don't think of it that way but you need to have a mentally alert person to drive a car or an ambulance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► Yes it is like it's like the lowest kind of thinking job perhaps because I know I've I've driven quite a lot across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► and you listen to audiobooks you know your mind you don't have to focus like you're a doctor for example I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► the doctor listening to audiobooks while he's doing it so yeah like oh that was good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► If you're a doctor listening to this podcast please stop listening to the podcast if you are performing surgery at the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► Anyway with truck drivers you know they're going to be smart and know brilliance and laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► and it's some kind of some kind of level of intellectual labor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► and so my perspective on this is that the Basically our machines for almost all of human history were just shockingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► dumb they had no cognitive abilities whatsoever and that we are we are just getting to the point now where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2870">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► The machines are able to compete on a cognitive level with some humans and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► and that's where you talk about a self driving car in very many ways it is a brain competition with humans which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► it fundamentally different from all kinds of machines that came before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► when you build a better plowed into that plow is not any smarter than the plow that was made of sticks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► If it's made of metal it's just physically stronger maybe yeah it's just physically stronger it's bigger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► I had this I had this whole bizarre section that I cut I think quite rightly which is hung on the progress of flower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► Mills over time and how like the production is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and then I look at this later like what am I writing this for this whole thing sounds like a hell of a moment ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► But there is a little a little clip of a flour mill that I still left in there anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► But if I get like a bigger better flour mill is not fundamentally different from a primitive flour mill. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► Yeah and that's why I like people who say like oh I'm just engaging the Luddite fallacy when I talk about this stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► This to me is the real difference is like OK well humans have two kinds of labor to sell physical labor which we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► and we crossed that threshold I guess at the time of the lever almost in ways that that machine started being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► outdo humans physically and then when all the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► and things came along so that threshold thing crossed you're saying there's another threshold now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► Nefesh oh I'm saying it's the intellectual threshold and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► And that to me is is the real difference and part part of the reason why I am I am concerned is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► and I think this is this is a bit of a it is a bit of an uncomfortable conversation to have sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► but I look at it another example of of a machine that is competing cognitively with humans on a low level are the self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► checkout machines that you see everywhere now in supermarkets and yours. I mean this is this is one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/2993">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► Things that really made me start thinking I need to make this video is i saw a bunch of stores around me transition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► Man I hate things that they can be sure annoying like Don't get me wrong there are there are there are troubles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► and problems with them but it doesn't matter that yeah they're more economically efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► and I did a tally of some of the places that I visit and in and one of the supermarkets in London alone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► and I was like oh OK I just wrote these machines replaced about forty checkout registers in this one huge supermarket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► and looking at all of the other places I'm like OK I know that there used to be five people at the desk over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► and now there's one you know not not every place is doing this but enough places are doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► and then I think OK well that's the self checkout machines are here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► We're going to have autos doing the same kind of thing start pushing people out of the labor market with taxis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► and all the rest of that. The uncomfortable thing to me is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► What is it that we're going to have these people do that a machine won't be able to do better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► Because if you take someone whose job is retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► or you take someone whose job is long haul trucking What are you really going to do with millions of people who used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► And how are you going to transition them to something else when all of this kind of work can be automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► when the machines keep getting better and better and can compete with humans on different levels. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► And I I sometimes get mad because I get into arguments with people who keep saying things like oh you know they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► these people they'll go get educated and go to college they'll learn how to become app developers for the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► or they'll learn how to make web pages are you know they'll learn how to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► All of these things and I and I always feel like that's a nice story to tell yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► and maybe some of those people will do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► when you start talking about numbers in the millions of people you're not going to transition a million guys who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► truck drivers into white collar work somewhere in an office I think we have to face the fact that that is that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► practical and I mean yeah you know you make the case brilliantly if both now and in your video and quite possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► but I may very well be wrong I always want to be clear about this. I'm very open to the notion of being wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► Is it possible this is also a failure of your imagination. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► I mean two hundred years ago if you'd gone to those people plowing the fields [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► and said don't worry because in two hundred years will be working in call centers and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► and that that was a call center. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► All this going to be this invention called the telephone and then this and then that and then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► and their heads would explode you know just like that person in the field two hundred years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► and in two hundred years you look at all the jobs people are doing and go Well I would never even thought of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► Yes And of course a machine can't do that yet because you know I hadn't thought of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► Yeah I mean this is maybe maybe I'm clinging on to a wispy thread of hope and there isn't going to be an invention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► or things that would do this but. It's always happened before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► Yes it has always happened before and it's funny because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► when I first transition from being a teacher in to being a You Tube explainer person as I do now I guess I remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► was very fascinated with the new economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► and all these these kinds of jobs that have been coming up I think like wow I'm I'm making a full time living now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► You Tube and at the time that wasn't even five years old that the whole idea that there were ads on You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► and You Tube would share the revenue with people who make the videos that didn't even exist for very long at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3233">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► It's it was it was quite amazing to me that this is this new kind of work that could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► and I started looking around at all different kinds of look at all these new jobs isn't this interesting there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► people who make apps for the i Phone and all the kind of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► One of the things that I thought one day was ha I wonder how many people make a living on You Tube full time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► and how many people are like me around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► and if you're on the inside of You Tube you can do some ballpark numbers of heart that are harder to do on the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► but you know you can you can gather data about the views on channels and there's a whole bunch of stuff you can do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► The bottom line is my back of beyond the loop calculation was not talking about companies like Disney who happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► be on You Tube and not talking about channels like vivo that happened to be on You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► but people whose job is like mine making You Tube videos how many people like that can there be around the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► My ballpark was maybe somewhere around two thousand people. And so that that was kind of my guess about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3295">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► I feel really exclusive now. Yeah that's very very cool. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► The other thing that that actually this is something that I talk about in a future podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► but there's been a bunch of interesting articles making their way around the Internet right now about how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► make a full time living developing applications for the i Phone an i O. S. On Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► Yes like the App Store is this huge market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► and they always have these comical numbers about you know there's twenty zillion apps in the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► and then the question is OK but how many people make a full time living at that they get not companies but individuals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► And I haven't seen anybody try to ballpark it. I'd be really curious if somebody could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► But the clear thing from these articles is that the number of independent developers making a living on the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► is a tiny number of people it is a very small number of people. So when I was thinking about realizing how. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3352">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► A few people did You Tube I had this growing suspicion that while there are many new kinds of jobs I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► those new kinds of jobs employ a significant amount of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► And again through some people at the Bureau of Labor Statistics this information was confirmed to me that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► jobs that are new within the last hundred years are very small portions of the workforce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► and if you look at what people do they are jobs that have been around for a long time in one form or another. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► And so that's why I worry that this this refrain of new jobs will come and save us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► Doesn't doesn't strike me as being borne out by the data it's actually there are very few jobs over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► and a lot of the old jobs that make up about half the labor force seem to be easy targets for automation like within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► our grasp right now for stuff that works in the labs. So that's kind of my thoughts on the new the new jobs thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► Apologies if this was covered in the video but I do know something I took away from the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► and it might be a really naive question because I know you do your bit more if I was sort of economics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► and things like this than I But another thing that I thought might save our bacon was this you know I want things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► save our bacon simply go right ahead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► And I don't and I'm sure there's somebody you know normal word for this and you'll laugh at me for even saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► but I am not stupid and I realize that companies will maximize their profits and automate and automate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► and cut down their labor force as much as they can to squeeze every last penny out of out of their business. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► But does there come a point where they make so many people unemployed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► and society could fall into such ruin that they actually can no longer start hurting their customer base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► and therefore they start to employ. People just to sustain themselves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► For example if McDonald's could completely automate the cooking process completely and you just went to an A.T.M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► If eventually there was just no one working anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► and no one had money there'd be no one left to buy the cheeseburgers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► Is that kind of a self correcting element to the economy as a whole where business went completely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► Suresh society into the ground because they need society to sustain their business. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► OK So you've actually you've actually jump to the thing that I was going to talk about at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► but I think what let's do it now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► So this this comes right to the right to the point where I am on board with you that that was one of the reasons why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► made this video is I wanted to contribute to a general conversation of talking about what are we going to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► and under the current system you are you are kind of right that you can't have a system where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► Almost nobody is employed but there are still massive companies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► It gets very strange economically very quickly that there are ways under which it can work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► but yes that there are there are certainly problems with very high unemployment rates. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► But at some point I don't know what the time frame is going to be we will be in a world where technology is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► advanced that basically all of human labor is almost irrelevant that that would be my prediction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► That might be a hundred year time frame a two hundred year time frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► when we're talking about literally no humans need to work to do anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► So for those who haven't seen Gray's videos Well I mean he talked about you know newspaper articles being written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► automatically in the end that things that we don't even things we think are ridiculous to be done automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► actually happening automatically already writing music doing doing legal work there's all kinds of terrifying stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3592">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► So OK But here's the thing if we could magically jump to that point I feel like well that's not really a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► If all human life is not required because then you're in what is called a post scarcity economy where our current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► economy is set up as a way to manage limited resources we have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► We exchange money for goods and services because you have a limited amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► and there's a limited amount of production that can happen this is the story of all of human history. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► But if you transition to a place where robots can you know they can grow your food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► and they can run the solar plants to generate the electricity to run the robots you know well then suddenly Why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► people pay for anything. If you can have automation just one hundred percent of the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► So that's that's like a nice fantasy land but the gist of the poll and drink cocktails. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► Yes It's like the Wally World right the robots are taking charge of everything and we get nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► and fat in our luxury spaceship but I'd love to be in that role by the way maybe not have had a treadmill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► but hopefully hopefully they'll be drugs to make me skinny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► But anyway that's what I want actually if you're on a treadmill if you want to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► and I have to say I am so I am that to be clear here I am very long term optimistic on humankind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► I am very short term worried for exactly the kinds of problems that you bring up which is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► What happens as the unemployment rate goes up because there's there are all of these incentives for companies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► automate work and to increase the unemployment rate. And any company that doesn't go along with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► It's it's like a tragedy of the commons situation or it's the prisoner's dilemma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► but they've been the one company that doesn't go along with it just pushes itself out of business faster because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► impeding with cheaper companies. You can't hold back this tide. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► And so I don't think that there is a self correcting factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► and I think we're in an interesting position where OK we're standing in today's society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► and you can look at maybe a quasi utopian future but between us and there is a pit of doom. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► Of dangerous situations because you cannot have if you imagine particularly American society exactly as it is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► but you turn the unemployment dial up to fifty percent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► Yeah that's riots in the streets level of unemployment right now. That is people can't get food this is a huge problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► And so this is this is my concern about what are we going to do in the transition phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► and I'm going to be very very conservatively say the transition phase is like the most like a twenty year phase that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► I actually my gut feeling is this is more of like a ten year timeframe that we need to be worried about this stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► But there is there is definitely a human tendency to overestimate change in the short run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► and then to underestimate change in the long run. So I may be a little bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► That number those numbers may be shorter than they really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► but that's kind of what I mean by I'm short term worried which is a twenty year timeframe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► But long term very optimistic I think all of this stuff is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► but there's a lot there's a lot of pubs that start you were going to ask me something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► I can hear you breathe and you're like my wife you can I'm watching like on the Skype right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► I'm covering the cameras to get the feel of the whole time you're not my wife they are like she can just tell from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► Exactly what about just getting into that this would be a very popular thing to suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► but I'm sure some think that you know is often talked about could there be could legislation or regulation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3832">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► Is there a reason that governments couldn't come to our rescue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► and ban a certain level of automation just for the greater good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► Yes So this this is the reverse problem of the company situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► And here here's my view on technology I think technology is almost a technological progress I should say is it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► like like a nuclear reaction in that one once it gets started it is going to keep spiraling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► and there is nothing that you can do to kind of hold this back as long as you have groups of people anywhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► world this is the kind of reaction that is going to occur and it takes place faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► and the situation with trying to to ban or limit technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► or what I mentioned in the video is talking about unions try to do the same thing to hold back the progress. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► Society in some ways it's like a terrible way for anything you need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► I don't mean that you can because I've always been told I hate these weekends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► and this forty hour work week is just terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► But I meant to say but you know what I mean trying to limit the amount of jobs being lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► and even to say you know in America you convinced the country to to legally prohibit something like the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► showed which is that the Baxter robot which is a very human like robot that can do a lot of very simple task in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► they were just banning that kind of stuff. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► and in the United States through its tremendous political pressure convinces its NATO allies to all join on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► and then it starts leaning on you know the world organization the more people that you get to sign on to technology ban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► the more valuable the technology is to the countries that don't sign on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► Yeah like that that's all you have done is make it more valuable for the people who don't want to participate in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► ban. And then we're going to quarantine ourselves situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► Well now this is it is almost like you're talking about a totalitarian society is necessary to halt progress within its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► Yeah you just you cannot possibly do that especially if people are traveling you know you are leaving the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► and you come back you know then it's almost like a North Korea situation where you leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► and you won't believe all the robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► and the technology outside of this country borders like what you know I got I got to get a message back to my family to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► you know to make make a run for Mexico right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► If the United States is completed I mean you know you make a good you make a joke about that about like a North Korean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► person being amazed by the technology outside their borders and at the moment that is a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► but the joke would turn the other way really quickly if in twenty years like you say they go from outside North Korea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► and all they see is riots in the Straits unemployed people in these wonderful technology. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► So could the shoe could be on the other foot very quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► Yes Yes And that is that is my concern and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► and I I I really do think that the unemployment situation from automation is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► I'm going to lay it out that I think this is one of the biggest challenges that humanity is going to face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► That's what I think this is I think this is a big big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► and we are we often talk about how I don't really follow the news for example. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► It's because part of it is I think that the things that are talked about daily in the news like don't are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► necessarily big scale things to worry about and from. So it's like this is the thing to be discussing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► Now this you know this is this is a really big societal changing kind of thing that needs to be is this a bigger issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► than like oil or like water supply and things like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► I would say so because those are those are issues of resource management. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4074">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► Which are all caught up in the nature of what is a level of technology available now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► Those are those are definitely issues I'm not denying that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► but they are they are like a byproduct of the central issue which is technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► and I've always held the opinion that technology is really the driving force behind history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► and I think we're really at one of these moments now where we just we need to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► I was saying on Twitter that people were taking my video as being very pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► and I didn't really mean it that way I was aiming for it to be quite neutral like to inform people about this issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► But I was trying very consciously to not have it be a Isn't this the most terrible thing in the world it was more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► oh we need to talk about this kind of thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► And my my position really is that if we play our cards right this could be humanity's greatest moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► But my concern is that well we'll stuff it all up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► and end up with it like a riot in the streets situation so I want to see what just playing our cards right look like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► Yeah that's a that's a difficult question isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► So here's here's here's the way I want to walk into this in the video I made a very conscious choice to not talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► potential solutions. At the end of that video you know I depend on you for solutions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► That's what that's what it takes you all the time and if I don't put it off where should I go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► I Phone cover should I buy. If you haven't got the answer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► Well I mean this is this is a case where I'm going to I'm going to start before before I get to the end I might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► say right now that I don't have answers to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► but here's the way I want to log into this is I've been kind of talking about this topic with people in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► and just people of interest for a decade because this is just this is really been a great interest of mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4188">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► During a pattern in all of these conversations which is that getting people even on the on board the know this time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► really different technological change is different from the agricultural revolution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► and I was always really aware that if it if it then if the conversation even if I got them on board part one if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► immediately dove into part two of the conversation which is what do we do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► Suddenly what we're actually having is a conversation about contemporary politics. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► Oh well now I'm talking about what is this person's feelings about political situations right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► and then I often saw people undo changing their mind about technological problems because it disagreed with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► politics as well as relates to the current situation right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► And so that's why I did not want to connect those two parts because I've seen people unconvinced themselves often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► when what you know so much out of denial like I say I suddenly they're confronted with something else they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► and that is the head in the sand. Yeah well you know every everybody does this which is you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► It is very much human nature when you're kind of forced to draw a conclusion that you don't like to then go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► and try to change the premises that that brought you to this location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► and in my experience the way it has worked much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► when talking to people is get them on board the automation train and just kind of leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► and then it sinks in with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► and then you can have a much better conversation about well what are we going to try to do for this sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► and be a pain but what are we going to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► Well I guess I think that maybe you haven't thought about it because you haven't had enough conversations out of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► ten years long enough. I have definitely thought about it but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► Here here is the change that I think needs to happen in people's minds is we need to stigmatize particular feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► And that's that's a big issue because right now most people I talk to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► when we were recording this it's the middle of a recession which let me circle back to later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► People have very negative feelings towards the unemployed that oh you know why why aren't they working. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► Why don't they find a job why don't they try harder to find a job. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► And those feelings can always be true for an individual. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► Everybody has like a cousin Earl who's just you know never never tries very hard anything is a total bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► and isn't looking for work and is just like a total mooch on society. Everybody knows somebody like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► Your cousin doesn't listen I don't think you listen. But there are always individuals like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► I don't deny that that's the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► Yeah but it's a very different case when you start looking structurally at the whole economy and I think we are we are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► The reason why in part the reason why I made this video now is I think we really are in the beginning phases of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► thing called structural unemployment where people just will not be able to find a job. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► It doesn't matter how good the economy goes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► And under those circumstances I think we have to start viewing people not as unemployed with the implication that oh if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► they only tried harder they could find jobs that don't exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► and instead we have to look at them as almost as unemployable that there is there is nothing that this person can do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4427">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► and given the current level of technology that they cannot outcompete a machine in the things that they're able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► that are economically productive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► And so OK so like we're here we are we're walking towards this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► and then at this stage if you come along to this point and agree that certain kinds of people are unemployable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► The question we have to ask ourselves is well are we going to help those people or are we going to say tough luck. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► You get to starve to death on the streets because you are not economically viable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► And the way I have phrased that you might feel where which we have with that is I mean you know if society is anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► society is about setting the minimum standards below which we will not let people fall. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► If people are unemployable do we help them or do we leave them on their own and my position is that we help them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► But that that's what society is. You don't just you don't just abandon people because they're not economically viable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► So that like this is where we are this is where we walk into but then this not are not totally how capitalism works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► Yeah but see this is this is the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► when in many of these conversations it starts becoming like so are you a socialist boy feel like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► No I'm not a socialist I this is this is not my like I haven't been sneakily trying to turn it over into the Soviet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► States of America like this is not this is not my secret plan here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► but my my the reason why I think that happens is because people look at it with the current economic situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► and they look at the current things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► So what do you want to do do you want to raise taxes right now to pay for all of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► and my position is I'm not talking about right now. What I'm talking about is as the unemployment rate rises. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4551">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► Because my my thought on this is that the current level of technology that we are in it increases income inequality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► and so if you have increasing amounts of automation what you should find as a society is that there are fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► and fewer people who are collecting basically more and more of the resources of the society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► and I don't even mean that on an individual level. I even mean that on a company level. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► Yes the one of the things that is very fascinating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► There's a book that people should should check I mean there are many books on the subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► but one of which is particular interesting is called Average is over by Tyler Cowen I think is how you say his last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► name and he goes through and talks about what two new companies look like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► And one of the things that is very interesting is saying OK let's take a look at the companies on the Fortune five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► hundred list. And over the last twenty years in particular. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4615">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► The number of employees per revenue dollar generated that ratio has just skyrocketed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► So you have companies like Apple which have relatively very very few employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► but Apple is sitting on the world's most gigantic pile of money they have they have so much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► but their company is very very few people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► Whereas when you go back in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► and you look at the biggest companies in the world you know in the one nine hundred sixty S. I think it was G.E. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► and It was Ford and they employed hundreds of thousands of people. But Apple is like two thousand people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► It's some comically small amount of people and it's hugely more profitable than those old companies were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► and it's the same with a just a ton of companies on the Fortune five hundred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► So this is what I mean by a kind of income inequality I don't even just mean particularly rich doods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► but just tiny companies can and UPS are absorbing an enormous amount of wealth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► So what's going to happen to Apple when there's only five people left on earth that can afford. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► An i Phone because we're all starving in the streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► and punching each other in the face as income inequality rises because of automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► and because you have large numbers of unemployed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► The only way to avert the riots is that you have to start talking about providing a minimum level of security to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► people who are unemployed or the people who are unemployable. That is the like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► Let's keep the wheels on the cart solution because as I said before I think you can't you can't stop companies from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► But if you leave that indefinitely you can end up in that giant pit of doom where there are riots in the streets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► So you need some kind of countervailing force to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► So I know you're trying to sort of be you chew on the issue and you know you're not claiming to have all the answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► but to push you a bit more make you president gray for just a little bit longer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► KING I need to be king in these situations I need unilateral control with military force behind me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► Because on one hand it feels a bit like you're saying this is happening people. Stop stop ignoring it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► You know these cars are driving in California right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► But on the other hand you're using a lot of language like we need to start thinking about we need to think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► future you know we don't need to do anything now but we need to start thinking about what we do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► It says to me that we need to be doing something now. I guess that's what we need to be doing now I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► I guess this is for for the historical record my need to be thinking about a time scale is basically between now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► and the point at which self driving cars are legal on the road not that quick that by the sounds of it yes that is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► I mean by that we need to be thinking about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► I am not putting the we need to be thinking about this for five years kind of issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► and I literally mean this like today. So what do we need to do do we need to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► Should we be connecting a huge pension pot of money for all these future unemployed over what I really think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► starting. Point is the D. Stigmatization of of the unemployed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► Because I think if you can't get past that point you have no political capital to get anything done that is what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► where I see the most resistance comes from is people thinking oh I'm not going to support those lazy people who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► know who who aren't working and I have a job why can't they get a job and if you could you could pass a law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► or increase a tax rate or do something to change us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► No You know you can not at all and that's that's why you can't change people's opinions with a law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► but I think people who will listen to the show are aware that I am often very deeply cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► and pessimistic about making meaningful change in the world I am not very optimistic about lots of those things even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► though I am the guy who is known for making videos about how the voting system should be changed because I'm very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► The people who control those leavers of power are few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► and so talking about a whole bunch of issues doesn't do anything to help those issues. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► Yeah but this to me is much more like it's almost much more like a social issue and this is not the best comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► but the first of the popping to my mind it's like it's like gay marriage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► The public sentiment shift on gay marriage has been remarkably quick compared to changes that have happened in the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► and I actually I would bet that that's also a side effect of of just like technology like the Internet allowing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► to organize much better than they ever could have before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► and people being exposed much more easily to people who are different from them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► But the government couldn't pass a law that said everybody has to be OK with gay marriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► but none the less because it has been talked about so much in the media. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► We have moved to this position where people are much much more on board with what gay marriage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4911">TS</a>]
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01:22:36 ◼ ► about it on the Internet and then that happened for a year or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4956">TS</a>]
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01:22:51 ◼ ► Starting to pass laws or do things in this area for that conversation to stop or at least. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► And they see people at the top saying we're thinking about changing the rules what do you all think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/4978">TS</a>]
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01:23:23 ◼ ► wasn't already something that was in the ether as it were that is being discussed by people that is clearly an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5003">TS</a>]
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01:23:48 ◼ ► different. Right. There is this thing that I put a link in the show notes but it is. It's a chart that I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5028">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► Again an example of showing us what is happening over time with the economy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► I'll paint a word picture now and it's a chart that shows G.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► Gross domestic product adjusted for time from one nine hundred fifty until basically now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5051">TS</a>]
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01:25:12 ◼ ► before that when you have ups and downs in the economy you have recessions you have depressions G.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5112">TS</a>]
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01:25:35 ◼ ► the people that they employ that companies are doing much better through automation technology. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► But employment is just flat flat for a decade. Their fortunes are handcuffed to the footsoldiers anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5141">TS</a>]
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01:26:00 ◼ ► If this is the supermarkets are full of food. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► There's stuff to buy on the shelves that were not in some world that is is filled with hardship and woe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5163">TS</a>]
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01:26:19 ◼ ► There is not enough food there are not enough clothes and this is that this is kind of like workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5179">TS</a>]
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01:29:23 ◼ ► a video that was a very thought out and you know and well thought out this is obviously really important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► Are you scared for yourself for the first draft of this video with a flour mill section was an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► and I had to burn the whole thing and then I got it to start over. Well who are you scared for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► And is this a person you personally scared or resist just President. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► King graving aphoristic and worrying about his his subjects. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► Well you know I'm I'm worried about society as a whole for this one I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5391">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► One of the things that I see in all the comments is people are asking what job is safe from automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► and you know I want to know what your what job to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► and my perspective is like that is that is really beside the issue because it's quite selfish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► but it's not it's not even that it's a question of if we don't handle this right it doesn't matter if you have a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► it doesn't matter if you have a job they can't be unemployed if this is how he around you is crumbling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► If I expect it doesn't matter if you got a nice ass if someone's throwing a brick through the window. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5431">TS</a>]
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01:30:42 ◼ ► when we talk about trying to actually implement change in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5442">TS</a>]
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01:30:52 ◼ ► and your wealth has increased twenty thousand percent through automation. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► It's not going to be worth a whole lot to you if the world is starving and people just you know tear down your gates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► when people talk about what job should I get that a say from automation it's a bit of like I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► The entertainment industry is a relatively safe place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► and it doesn't really matter that you even if you have a job that you think is incredibly safe from automation this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► still a problem for you because it it it affects absolutely everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5484">TS</a>]
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01:31:35 ◼ ► when I was a young lad in college I came across a book called genetic programming Volumes one two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► and those were amazing books about computer programming there was always this alternate life that I wonder about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► I had become a computer programmer instead of becoming a physics teacher that was a possibility. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5513">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► But these books were amazingly eye opening to me because what they were was well the thing that I talked about very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► briefly in the video was not how to write a computer program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► but how to write a program that can figure out on its own the solution to some kind of problem which just blew my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► that this kind of thing was even possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5543">TS</a>]
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01:32:50 ◼ ► brain does stuff with kind of pretended neurons in the computer that you can show things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► and teach it yes this was right no this was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5575">TS</a>]
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01:33:19 ◼ ► and then you keep running generations on this and you can come up with programs that can solve things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5599">TS</a>]
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01:33:40 ◼ ► had lived and died and there was some program that could solve a problem for me and I would look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5620">TS</a>]
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01:33:51 ◼ ► It's thousands and thousands of lines of code long. It's just impossible but I found that really fascinating and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5631">TS</a>]
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01:34:35 ◼ ► order to do some of this stuff in a in a realistic way the problems I was having it solve were very very simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► but that was the thing that really sparked my interest in this and just realizing boy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► Anybody who's job is to sit at a computer and manipulate things entirely digitally. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► and that's the one thing I didn't talk about in the video because it's not as easy to show visually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5695">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► It's so easy to talk about oh these factory workers and these truck drivers are all going to lose their jobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► But I actually think that the people at the biggest risk are not blue collar workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► but it is white collar workers people who do just work at a computer all day long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► If you are a plumber if you are an electrician if you if you have any kind of job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5718">TS</a>]
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01:35:31 ◼ ► Those jobs tend to be blue collar jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► and I think those jobs are relatively safe in terms of protection from automation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5733">TS</a>]
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01:37:40 ◼ ► algorithms that screwed computer system could run but no one really knew how they worked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5860">TS</a>]
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01:38:44 ◼ ► That it had and I would you know go to the movies or play table tennis games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5924">TS</a>]
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01:39:00 ◼ ► Yes from the from the boss and say I'm sure that job is not redundant but I was happy it was good to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/5940">TS</a>]
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01:40:45 ◼ ► actually forgot to collect homework. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/6045">TS</a>]
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01:42:26 ◼ ► but was there anything else you want to talk about no I mean this is there's lots going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXV-PAo/6146">TS</a>]
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