00:00:05 ◼ ► Well I know how I'm doing because you were looking at me on video a second ago and you told me I look dreadful [TS]
00:00:12 ◼ ► I'm not going to lie you really really look you really look awful what's going on man. [TS]
00:00:17 ◼ ► Well as you know I am back in California in Berkeley and I'm going to go I think that San Francisco yet [TS]
00:00:26 ◼ ► but I am in the Mathematical Sciences Research Institute which is the spiritual home of number four [TS]
00:00:34 ◼ ► and I'm hanging out with or some mathematicians but more importantly the World Series is on at the moment. [TS]
00:00:42 ◼ ► Oh this is a this is a baseball event Gray I know in baseball I grew up in York. I know I know what it is. [TS]
00:00:49 ◼ ► So the three games that are being played in San Francisco the middle three that's where the Giants are a home our as we [TS]
00:01:05 ◼ ► and I have purchased a ticket over the last couple of not so I've had reason to be in San Francisco both not so I've [TS]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and just stand outside the stadium just so I could say I was near. That would be really sad. Yeah. [TS]
00:01:26 ◼ ► Just moping around kicking the ground with your foot listening to everybody on the inside having a great time at your [TS]
00:01:33 ◼ ► Well he kind of was actually a member we did a podcast not long ago where I talked about being in Bangkok [TS]
00:01:44 ◼ ► and you learned an important life lesson I learned an important lesson and I have. [TS]
00:01:48 ◼ ► I've decided to not make that mistake this time because after today although I speak sang always in San Francisco [TS]
00:01:55 ◼ ► during the World Series but I didn't. So I said no that's not going to happen. So I am going to go. [TS]
00:02:02 ◼ ► Except there is a problem that is I need to print my ticket out because I've bought online [TS]
00:02:07 ◼ ► and the institute's printed out at the moment so it could be a cruel falling at the final hurdle. [TS]
00:02:21 ◼ ► I think I'm going to go to the game and take a selfie and say look here I am at the World Series [TS]
00:02:30 ◼ ► Well I don't want to do it anymore I just want to crawl under a rock and put on a face mask [TS]
00:02:39 ◼ ► but you don't have to take a selfie there you can just take a picture at the World Series as as your memory shot [TS]
00:02:46 ◼ ► when you're in Maine there are actually some professional photographers at the game who will probably take better [TS]
00:02:50 ◼ ► pictures of the stadium the ME So if I was going to take a picture of the stadium with my i Phone like why would I [TS]
00:03:01 ◼ ► The whole idea is to have my own perspective on it and what can I add to it other than to say look it's me. [TS]
00:03:10 ◼ ► and not take a picture of any astronaut on the moon because we're going to show the astronaut was there. [TS]
00:03:14 ◼ ► How was it how was it on the moon Mr Armstrong and Aldrin a good look at all these pictures we took. [TS]
00:03:21 ◼ ► or not I know that would be self-indulgent if we didn't do that we just took some pictures of rocks and sand. [TS]
00:03:29 ◼ ► We didn't want to spoil the same area with like showing that humans with their I love I love how your go to analogy is [TS]
00:03:39 ◼ ► It comes back to some kind of Apollo space program metaphor pretty much the same you going out to a baseball game [TS]
00:03:45 ◼ ► and taking a picture of yourself just like astronauts on the moon taking a picture of themselves is the same thing at [TS]
00:03:51 ◼ ► the same scale do you know there is no proper photograph of Neil Armstrong on the moon there is one almost sort of [TS]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Buzz Aldrin was photographing something else and runs off to the side but there's no posed picture [TS]
00:04:05 ◼ ► or just normal picture of Neil Armstrong on the moon like still photo obviously is video footage and stuff [TS]
00:04:10 ◼ ► but they just they didn't take one but the classic one from Apollo eleven is of Buzz Aldrin. [TS]
00:04:15 ◼ ► All they do is you know Armstrong reflected in his visor that there's no there's no proper picture of Armstrong on the [TS]
00:04:21 ◼ ► moon doing the Moon Walk there is a nice picture of him in the module there in that little space outfit you can't tell [TS]
00:04:27 ◼ ► who's who anyway it doesn't matter if you know it could be anybody in those suits you know that's true [TS]
00:04:34 ◼ ► when they didn't have the gold reflecting thing down all the time you see their faces a bit more [TS]
00:04:41 ◼ ► That's why in the later Apollo missions they started putting a red stripe on the helmet of the commander so you could [TS]
00:04:48 ◼ ► even tell who it was because when they were both wearing the same white suits it was hard to even tell who it was. [TS]
00:04:59 ◼ ► If you do a selfie I want you to put a red stripe on your face before you can tell it's me. [TS]
00:05:05 ◼ ► Remember one other thing that's been new to me on this U.S. Trip and I mean obviously up into the U.S. [TS]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and as you are aware they drive on the other side of the road here they drive on the wrong side of the road. [TS]
00:05:27 ◼ ► Yes the literal right side to the actual incorrect side this is never really posed much of a problem before you're [TS]
00:05:42 ◼ ► I'm staying up in the hills this time kind of I don't know what you call it like a sort of a little quiet suburban tree [TS]
00:05:48 ◼ ► area very very quiet very nice and I'm walking to work each day which is like a half hour walk. [TS]
00:05:55 ◼ ► But I'm walking through these kind of hilly trees straight with hardly any. Yes and no. [TS]
00:06:12 ◼ ► and you have to walk on the road all the time around like all these blind corners and bends. [TS]
00:06:17 ◼ ► Suddenly I am always disoriented about where I should be walking and will cars coming from behind me [TS]
00:06:23 ◼ ► or in front of me and around the corner and for the first time I feel like I'm in peril on the roads all the time [TS]
00:06:35 ◼ ► when I'm in a big city where there's just cars everywhere. That sounds exactly right to me. [TS]
00:06:43 ◼ ► when danger is omni present you are much more on your guard. So it makes total sense that it's it's much more deadly. [TS]
00:06:49 ◼ ► It's also more dangerous because everyone drives a Prius and they're like silent assassins. [TS]
00:06:55 ◼ ► I think you have a podcast going and I come up on you don't even know they're there. [TS]
00:06:59 ◼ ► All these all these hippies in their Prius has to especially especially if you are going around those curves to the [TS]
00:07:07 ◼ ► and use its actual gasoline motor if it's on the electric motor Yeah that is definitely silent silent driving I used to [TS]
00:07:13 ◼ ► drive a Prius and I was always remarkable about how quiet they are like those who used to drive a Prius. [TS]
00:07:18 ◼ ► Yeah I drove a Prius cross-country twice like hired Oh did you own one it was it was actually it was my parent's car [TS]
00:07:26 ◼ ► that I was driving I don't really have a car in the States I mean this was this is years and years ago [TS]
00:07:35 ◼ ► Sorry Gray's parents in my disparaging comment about hippie Prius owners they won't mind my parents are not hippies. [TS]
00:07:44 ◼ ► Well we got much to follow up from last time what's what we do have we don't have we have going to follow up the first [TS]
00:07:49 ◼ ► thing I want to say is I want to apologize because I did cut one of your boring stories from the last pod cast we were [TS]
00:08:02 ◼ ► but the only thing I feel bad about this was in the middle of it you mention the existence of your new Brady sub Reddit [TS]
00:08:10 ◼ ► and so I just wanted to bring it up because I had I didn't I didn't want to cut that I got sorry for that one tiny bit [TS]
00:08:17 ◼ ► of self promotion but I was in the middle of a bunch of nonsense or something I don't remember exactly [TS]
00:08:21 ◼ ► but so I did want to do start out strong by giving you an opportunity to tell the good people that there is a place now [TS]
00:08:27 ◼ ► on the Reddit for your discussions of it all your channels is it going to be for everything. [TS]
00:08:33 ◼ ► Nearly every video gets put there because I sort of figure there isn't really one place to sort of follow where much of [TS]
00:08:39 ◼ ► the video is you know because I've because of all these different Twitter channels in different Facebook pages [TS]
00:08:44 ◼ ► and You Tube channels it does become a bit silent so there is sort of one place now which is just Brady Haran on as as [TS]
00:08:51 ◼ ► That's great that's turned that well for me so instead of being sort of buried in the middle of a boring story at the [TS]
00:08:56 ◼ ► end of a podcast on i get a big a big plug right at the run stop it's practically the lead [TS]
00:09:01 ◼ ► when you say like slash slash. Really say it's slash Brady Haran Paypal and they were going to go there. [TS]
00:09:19 ◼ ► Friday night I only put one thing on there a day so if I have like two two videos a day for some reason I tend to put [TS]
00:09:27 ◼ ► or so later because I don't want to edit out now I don't want to I don't want to annoy people anymore than I already do. [TS]
00:09:38 ◼ ► but I think you will I don't like the way the conversations get much hurt in the You Tube ones so that we will have a [TS]
00:09:44 ◼ ► talk about more talking about Reddit comment threads one day because I know it's a question how do you know it's a [TS]
00:09:52 ◼ ► Mainly because I never have time to prepare all the prepared topic that they go will be the later [TS]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Over do them but yeah I think that for those first three and then after that it was all downhill. [TS]
00:10:07 ◼ ► or a few shows ago so this is this is now ancient followup I think this was originally in our monkey Copyright one [TS]
00:10:13 ◼ ► but we got into a little bit of a disagreement over how many people in America die from electrocution in their [TS]
00:10:22 ◼ ► bathrooms. Yes because it was the genesis of this conversation was that in the U.K. [TS]
00:10:28 ◼ ► To my eternal frustration you don't have real electrical outlets in the bathroom you have these wimpy shaver outlets [TS]
00:10:39 ◼ ► but that would mean things like if you want to have a hairdryer or a stereo or whatever in your bathroom. [TS]
00:10:45 ◼ ► You can't because there's no place to plug it in or place that is full of water. As I also know it has. [TS]
00:10:55 ◼ ► That's your position was that there must be way more people dying in America because America allow such nonsense [TS]
00:11:12 ◼ ► And yes someone sent in some numbers from receiving a political year. I have a suspicion about who was right on this. [TS]
00:11:23 ◼ ► This is just we don't need to talk about it on my computer I think I'll be happy to know is in a different location. [TS]
00:11:29 ◼ ► I'm in my office as opposed to my house so it is not as easy for me now to browse the Internet. [TS]
00:11:33 ◼ ► My laptop is in a slightly awkward position so I think I will be listening to you with one hundred percent intensity so [TS]
00:11:52 ◼ ► but their estimate was that about fifty people a year in the United States die from. Electrical related injuries. [TS]
00:12:15 ◼ ► but basically this is a you can round this off to zero in a population of more than three hundred million people that [TS]
00:12:26 ◼ ► So even if we pretended that all of those happened in the bathroom it's just in this is this falls under the category [TS]
00:12:32 ◼ ► of completely freak accident that to the person whose brother died by electrocution in the bathroom. [TS]
00:12:39 ◼ ► Well it would still be a freak accident but it would be an insensitive thing to say to that person [TS]
00:12:50 ◼ ► I'm sure death by wild animal is approaching that number if we add up all the the grizzly bear [TS]
00:12:56 ◼ ► and alley where you should have wild animals in the bathroom although that is entirely true [TS]
00:13:01 ◼ ► but yes I guess it is basically is basically nothing new in that one they do have just a couple of little interesting [TS]
00:13:08 ◼ ► The age was relevant if you are forty to sixty years old you are twice as likely to be one of those fifty people [TS]
00:13:18 ◼ ► and if you are male you are six times as likely to be one of those people. So this to me sounds like a dead zone. [TS]
00:13:33 ◼ ► and then of course at the bottom there it mentions that the most likely cause for the fatal electrocution is power [TS]
00:13:46 ◼ ► So anyway that's a follow up from several shows ago on that. It does beg the question why the U.K. [TS]
00:13:54 ◼ ► Has introduced this kind of nanny state over protective You can't have an. Or city anywhere near your bathroom rule. [TS]
00:14:02 ◼ ► Like was it just born of a couple of freak accidents and they got a big trick pony and the like. [TS]
00:14:12 ◼ ► Redid their electrical system after World War two They changed a whole bunch of the electrical codes at that point [TS]
00:14:21 ◼ ► and you know if we're going to rebuild everything let's redo the whole electrical cord [TS]
00:14:28 ◼ ► Wiring system and how it works I think it is very interesting I used that to teach us as part of G.C.S.E. Physics. [TS]
00:14:34 ◼ ► when people are updating the code they say well why don't we just make it safer in the bathrooms it just sounds like a [TS]
00:14:49 ◼ ► And then it just it just becomes part of the electrical code. I'm sure somebody out there knows. [TS]
00:14:59 ◼ ► Well you know what I'm going to give you another point. Oh oh boy I'm starting out strong. [TS]
00:15:06 ◼ ► I'm giving you one for free here because for various reasons which might come up later on in the podcast you [TS]
00:15:13 ◼ ► and I were having a discussion recently about how you start a seven four seven plane with that was us that was us. [TS]
00:15:31 ◼ ► and your position I think was pretty much you reckon you probably could just get in and start her up and go. [TS]
00:15:36 ◼ ► Here's what the question was Is there any additional security in the inside of the cockpit to prevent someone who just [TS]
00:15:53 ◼ ► My position was no that I was going to guess that that the entire security is based on the. [TS]
00:16:02 ◼ ► and in inconvenient locations so you don't need a key as additional protection because the seven four seven in an [TS]
00:16:11 ◼ ► Whereas my position was perhaps reinforced by the post nine eleven environment where it has been shown that terrorists [TS]
00:16:20 ◼ ► I thought perhaps maybe they had introduced some kind of at least like keypad code [TS]
00:16:27 ◼ ► and I did mention to you that my friend was a seven four seven pilot you had a very ofay with the controls of a jumbo [TS]
00:16:39 ◼ ► Pleae he said as little as you can probably read a checklist you can easily stop a seven four seven to the point where [TS]
00:16:47 ◼ ► and take off he said I think he said it would take two turns of a switch to get the engines running to enable to you [TS]
00:17:02 ◼ ► but you know now that they've put all these you know Fort Knox style doors on the cockpits [TS]
00:17:07 ◼ ► and all the sort of things our thought the least thing they would do would be to put like a pin code on the on the star [TS]
00:17:20 ◼ ► And boy with that pilot be chagrined with that that I would never imagine him doing the pat down in his pocket. [TS]
00:17:34 ◼ ► and ready to go so you're too new to Gray Well THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU GIVE ME THAT one and then the next. [TS]
00:17:43 ◼ ► Oh tweeting tweeting I was having a look at my paper cut I think as my paper was you were commenting about people live [TS]
00:17:54 ◼ ► Like you know to some show I plan to watch later and someone did make the point and I think this is. [TS]
00:18:04 ◼ ► Maybe the rule of thumb should be you can only live tweet T.V. If the T.V. Itself is live. [TS]
00:18:12 ◼ ► So if what you're watching is a live event being broadcast live then it's OK to be tweeting. [TS]
00:18:17 ◼ ► If the event you're watching is recorded in any way then you shouldn't be live tweeting it. [TS]
00:18:26 ◼ ► So the first time that Breaking Bad is broadcasting that does not count as live because it's not literally live it has [TS]
00:18:35 ◼ ► Exactly where is if by some amazing thing they decided all for the finale of Breaking Bad That's like acted out live [TS]
00:18:41 ◼ ► and transmit live well actually the thing that popped right into my head was thirty Rock did actually live episode. [TS]
00:18:51 ◼ ► and So that would be the example that maybe breaks the rule here of can you live tweet that thirty Rock episodes [TS]
00:18:57 ◼ ► and they actually like crazy people did it live and I can't even even watch that show [TS]
00:19:03 ◼ ► when it's been recorded because I'm so anxious for them knowing that it was done on the West Wing election debate [TS]
00:19:11 ◼ ► and uneven ik I think was live done live as well before that I what I happened to watch a few days ago because I've [TS]
00:19:18 ◼ ► just been really watching the final series of The West Wing I think that was done live as well [TS]
00:19:21 ◼ ► and it's so interesting because you know you know Aaron Sorkin dialogue is like you know west window I look so amazing [TS]
00:19:28 ◼ ► and snappy and to see say the actors even stumbling a little bit was it was amazing. [TS]
00:19:33 ◼ ► I think that was that was yeah I'm pretty sure that was a lot of people will tell us. [TS]
00:19:38 ◼ ► Anyway a good rule of thumb I'm sure we can find little exceptions like thirty Rock [TS]
00:19:42 ◼ ► but I think that's a good rule of thumb I greet thing is if the thing is happening life like the humans are doing it [TS]
00:19:49 ◼ ► live then you write and then you can tweet it. I think I agree that is a very good rule of thumb. [TS]
00:19:55 ◼ ► Thank you to whoever in the suburb it suggested that another thing we discussed was. The call of the void. [TS]
00:20:06 ◼ ► when you're standing on like a ship at night and you think I could just jump off the ship into the water [TS]
00:20:20 ◼ ► I thought of another time because try to start after the pod cast I had another experience where I experienced a [TS]
00:20:27 ◼ ► similar emotion and I just wanted to bring it up to see whether or not you have to have that feeling [TS]
00:20:38 ◼ ► You know there's that moment where you put the letter into the mail box and once it goes in you tend to get that back. [TS]
00:20:44 ◼ ► Like it's like you know I have a uterus right did I put the right thing and I don't have like. [TS]
00:20:49 ◼ ► And is there as that final seconds away ahold of me on what I would tell you to going to post box. Shall I let it go. [TS]
00:20:55 ◼ ► Then when you finally let it go. I was a weird moment of terror that OK I'm done now. [TS]
00:21:03 ◼ ► or I got the address wrong so I think those little red pill or post boxes in the U.K. [TS]
00:21:21 ◼ ► Feeling But that's that's the feeling that's kind of the cold of void thing too it's like if I jump off the ship I [TS]
00:21:29 ◼ ► There's like a permanent there's a permanence to it there's a if I do it that's it. If I do it that's it. [TS]
00:21:34 ◼ ► I get that with posting a letter once I've done it that's it. Once I've done it much Norm it's gone. [TS]
00:21:50 ◼ ► or it's it's called a void scaled down to such a Mundine level as to be almost laughable. [TS]
00:22:00 ◼ ► And you might think I'm not a person who mails very many letters but one of my simple perks is sending out postcards [TS]
00:22:07 ◼ ► and every time every time I drop a bundle of postcards into a red post box by my office. [TS]
00:22:15 ◼ ► I feel that exact same feeling of oh god did I write all those things out correctly did I mess it up on my spreadsheet [TS]
00:22:23 ◼ ► and I wrote the wrong thing to absolutely everybody all these postcards going to the wrong places [TS]
00:22:30 ◼ ► and now I will not ever be able to disassociate that from leaping off a cliff as well this is because I have a void so [TS]
00:22:55 ◼ ► I still say I still say that's why there's something about it that to me is the reverse of the call of the void [TS]
00:23:00 ◼ ► but it's the same it's the same feeling a million Haitians here it's a scary thing like you know it's like it's a [TS]
00:23:09 ◼ ► and it's a point of no return it's an it's an event horizon for mio it is it is an event horizon from now on yes I [TS]
00:23:19 ◼ ► Yeah I do that you can say I think of the last thing in the middle of I do with that with some of the automated deposit [TS]
00:23:34 ◼ ► and put in a whole bunch of deposit slips and the thing I worry about is that my bank [TS]
00:23:39 ◼ ► when I pull open the automatic deposit drawer I am afraid of my glasses falling off my face [TS]
00:23:46 ◼ ► and into this room where Gazans have never fallen off my face in any kind of normal situation [TS]
00:23:53 ◼ ► but it's just a very big gaping maw is just waiting for me to drop important things into it. [TS]
00:24:03 ◼ ► and then on their half blinds trying to explain to the bank people that I have my glasses are in there [TS]
00:24:08 ◼ ► and I won't be able to get home unless they can get my glasses this is what I worry about this every time [TS]
00:24:21 ◼ ► but this is crazy right because that almost certainly increases the chances that my eyes are actually going to come off [TS]
00:24:28 ◼ ► But it's is it is exactly exact same feeling so that is another call of the void scenario this is the world is full of [TS]
00:24:35 ◼ ► perils just normal guys like us and it really is to get like you know astronauts and firemen [TS]
00:24:45 ◼ ► and the pope had to do all those things from the exhaust of the dangers of mail boxes. I don't know I don't know. [TS]
00:24:59 ◼ ► At some length about where to store your wallet things and I know what's going on there. [TS]
00:25:08 ◼ ► If anybody made it past my first world complaining about my i Phone there was another whole section about me [TS]
00:25:14 ◼ ► complaining about how I arrange things in my pocket which I'm sure was thrilling for people to listen to [TS]
00:25:19 ◼ ► but I know people made it to that section because I ended up getting inundated with feedback about how other people [TS]
00:25:27 ◼ ► and there was a consistent theme to a whole bunch of the feedback that I thought is worth touching on. [TS]
00:25:33 ◼ ► And so the problem was I have too many things in my pockets right that I don't know where to put my phone [TS]
00:25:42 ◼ ► and my wallet and I have a pen and a stylus but I'm always carrying on me sir and your eggs [TS]
00:25:48 ◼ ► and sort of put you ever tipping point now where yes it's just chaos is going to pay off anyway. [TS]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Just give me the faith back then was that the follow up what's the what's the latest with a consistent theme from [TS]
00:26:05 ◼ ► people was pointing out the existence of two things one of which is combined styli [TS]
00:26:20 ◼ ► and the second thing people pointed out was these i Phone cases that are also wallets [TS]
00:26:27 ◼ ► and so people were sending me these every dual wallet i Phone case in the world I've seen people send an e-mail me [TS]
00:26:34 ◼ ► and the same thing with every stylus stroke pen in the world people have sent to me as kind of a sort of nerdy Swiss I [TS]
00:26:43 ◼ ► but the reason I didn't bring this up is this to me is a perfect example of the kind of thing I see very often which is. [TS]
00:26:52 ◼ ► A worst of both worlds solution where someone says oh hey you want to turn these two things into one thing. [TS]
00:27:09 ◼ ► when I obsess about reducing the number of things in my life you can imagine you very often come across worst of both [TS]
00:27:15 ◼ ► worlds kind of problems. So in one of those case let's go give me an example there about how they have made them worse. [TS]
00:27:21 ◼ ► But I've taken the worst elements and I don't choose one and explain well just for example the wallet. [TS]
00:27:27 ◼ ► I Phone case now this is twice as cumbersome for getting anything out of my pocket twice as often so now if I'm getting [TS]
00:27:35 ◼ ► out just my credit cards I also have to take my phone out at the same time or from getting my phone out. [TS]
00:27:44 ◼ ► and also as one action that still just you stupid still want to go on living but it is twice the weight and also [TS]
00:27:51 ◼ ► when you start talking about strong guy like I'm sure not strength issue you know that perfectly well it's just more [TS]
00:28:00 ◼ ► The the wall it doesn't work very well as a wallet because you have to put a whole phone inside of it so you have to [TS]
00:28:09 ◼ ► I spent for ever trying to find my latest while as you can imagine I might be very picky about the sort of thing you [TS]
00:28:15 ◼ ► can imagine I spent years trying to find a wallet that would that would work for me [TS]
00:28:19 ◼ ► and I finally found one in a very high I laugh at you for taking a long time to choose things that I agree choosing a [TS]
00:28:24 ◼ ► ball is very difficult very difficult. It's so personal and you have particular needs of what you want. [TS]
00:28:38 ◼ ► and trying to pick a wallet I highly recommend them they have a cute little Al a logo. I'm gonna look into that. [TS]
00:28:46 ◼ ► So the combined wallet i Phone cases I have seen are just terrible they're terrible at both things [TS]
00:28:59 ◼ ► and now you're trying to find a device that matches both of my needs for these two things like the weight of the pen [TS]
00:29:06 ◼ ► but if you also have to stick a thousand now it's just terrible of both things so that is that is if you are a [TS]
00:29:13 ◼ ► The worst of both worlds is a kind of problem that you're going to come up against a lot where combining a thing is [TS]
00:29:23 ◼ ► So do you ever do you ever occasionally stumble over Jim That's the best of both worlds. [TS]
00:29:28 ◼ ► Yeah you can you can definitely find Best of Both Worlds things but it's because life is eternally disappointing. [TS]
00:29:44 ◼ ► and what's what's gone on the if you look at are you about to say something that does not cast me in a positive light. [TS]
00:29:50 ◼ ► Well I'm sure we'll talk about later we met up recently and I did get a chance to see your wallet very briefly [TS]
00:30:01 ◼ ► and I have literally never seen a human being with a larger more stuffed wallet than yours I have quite a small wallet [TS]
00:30:09 ◼ ► which is what looks I stuffed because I know I am a big believer in having a small wallet [TS]
00:30:14 ◼ ► and because I always want a smaller it always is bursting at the same as if I had a big wall it would look Quest remind [TS]
00:30:26 ◼ ► and that is counting all those twenty pound notes I haven't flown with money now I don't know what it was [TS]
00:30:40 ◼ ► but the big thick white seam down the middle of your wallet that you're trying to press [TS]
00:30:47 ◼ ► Your heart was absolutely just overstuffed and all it made me think of is the famous gift [TS]
00:30:53 ◼ ► and the wallets from Seinfeld which was supposed to be a joke but your wallet really did look like that. [TS]
00:30:58 ◼ ► Whether or not we hadn't done my monthly resay clean that's there's always some reason given [TS]
00:31:05 ◼ ► but that's what it I was just I was surprised that you were able to manage that wallet so you know what I managed on I [TS]
00:31:13 ◼ ► get often I'm glad you do. I'm glad you do but I was just I was surprised to see it in person. [TS]
00:31:18 ◼ ► Use your judgement to know I don't know I haven't touched judgmental on not just I was just I was surprised to see it [TS]
00:31:33 ◼ ► but I think this is if I if I was judging you you would know it but I just you know I'm glad it works for you. [TS]
00:31:41 ◼ ► Well now you know I agree astri Manuel is better. You know I've got better things to do in life then. [TS]
00:31:54 ◼ ► but such is not my lot in life they are I guess sort of two more things that I want to follow up on. [TS]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Yes The first one was we made an offhanded comment on I think I made the comment on the last show about there being far [TS]
00:32:12 ◼ ► fewer Nobel Prizes than professional You Tubers with a million or more subscribers. [TS]
00:32:19 ◼ ► Yeah we were sort of saying you know of course the Nobel Prize has more cachet because there are fewer winners than the [TS]
00:32:27 ◼ ► You can't you can't swing a dead cat in San Francisco without hitting a whole bunch of people have a million [TS]
00:32:34 ◼ ► So the Nobel Prize just seems so much smaller you know I want to quickly interrupt before we finish that point. [TS]
00:32:54 ◼ ► and said we're going to start a little community here because there are many of them. [TS]
00:33:00 ◼ ► but they were kind of listing on one handle the You Tube is the really big huge wave is with you know [TS]
00:33:06 ◼ ► and I had to find a really big reason now but I know this I know this is all very siloed as well [TS]
00:33:13 ◼ ► but I'm just saying these people will be moaning the lack of a You Tube community in San Francisco that's the that is [TS]
00:33:21 ◼ ► totally fair enough I just I think I said San Francisco because I just don't even like to think about L.A. [TS]
00:33:26 ◼ ► Because it is obviously the worst city in the civilized world is horrible but if you want a career in the media [TS]
00:33:36 ◼ ► or in entertainment in its broadest of forms yes you want to move to L.A. And so there. [TS]
00:33:42 ◼ ► If anyone follows the You Tube professional world at all you know the pattern of someone starts a You Tube channel. [TS]
00:33:48 ◼ ► They become relatively successful and then at some point they're all moving to L.A. [TS]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and They don't even necessarily specify why the answer is because they want to be professionally in the entertainer. [TS]
00:34:00 ◼ ► World you know they want to do T.V. or You know other other things that the only reason anybody moved to L.A. [TS]
00:34:12 ◼ ► In fact Berkeley where I'm at the University of Berkeley has I think I've said this before has car parking spaces that [TS]
00:34:24 ◼ ► So they have so many Nobel prize winners at Berkeley they even have their own car parking spaces. [TS]
00:34:33 ◼ ► The thing you are saying that the Nobel Prize winners we have since shed more light on this. [TS]
00:34:38 ◼ ► Yes So let me just pull up the exact you know as opposed to say Nobel Prize winners by the way because it's not [TS]
00:34:48 ◼ ► and then the laureates of the people who have them they never they don't reveal who like the other people who were like [TS]
00:34:53 ◼ ► nominated until last year's And so the laureates of the witness did not realize that after our last show. [TS]
00:35:03 ◼ ► I looked up the numbers and at the time of the last show there were eight hundred and seventy six Nobel laureates [TS]
00:35:13 ◼ ► and there were eight hundred and forty eight youtube channels with over a million subscribers. [TS]
00:35:20 ◼ ► So actually just under the number of Nobel laureates or youtube channels with over a million and then OK So [TS]
00:35:29 ◼ ► but we record a little while ago and said just today I thought oh let me look it up and see where it is [TS]
00:35:43 ◼ ► So I get a few more were awarded since last time we were there and there are eight hundred [TS]
00:35:55 ◼ ► So by the time this point cast goes out it may well have crossed over that the moment. [TS]
00:36:09 ◼ ► It is remarkable how close that number is just one nine hundred different but yes by the time I edit this [TS]
00:36:15 ◼ ► and the time it goes up it may very well be that we have just done the crossover point because the channels that are [TS]
00:36:25 ◼ ► And once you start getting up in those numbers your subscribers tend to grow quite quickly so yes by the time you do [TS]
00:36:31 ◼ ► your internet listening are hearing this there may very well be more You Tube channels with a million subscribers then [TS]
00:36:41 ◼ ► If I'm going to talk to the the Berkeley people see if they're going to give me a cup of space to let me know how like [TS]
00:36:48 ◼ ► yeah why tell us something's been you know who has pots there must have like a million You Tube subscribers. [TS]
00:37:06 ◼ ► and I think you know the one time it's difficult for me to google stuff you explicitly ask OK and so much of Everest. [TS]
00:37:16 ◼ ► and every kind of people have stepped on the moon you missed a lot of the top if you had twelve. There we go. [TS]
00:37:27 ◼ ► The church I can name all the people involved on the moment I collect their autographs. [TS]
00:37:34 ◼ ► Last Yahoo Answers I don't trust anything you say. I'm guessing it's over a thousand for Everest. [TS]
00:37:41 ◼ ► That's got to be I mean those those Sherpas are shuffling people up there like nobody's carrying them on their backs. [TS]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Whatever it is it's going to be higher than the the You Tube millionaires is not so. [TS]
00:38:05 ◼ ► So we also have more pre-stage than someone who's got some added Everest in my opinion. [TS]
00:38:12 ◼ ► Well again because of the Sherpas I might actually agree with you. Did you know have a ship a million subscribers. [TS]
00:38:21 ◼ ► You made that joke last time you know if you can pay that exact to about Sherpas helping you make gentle What is in the [TS]
00:38:31 ◼ ► making that Jake was it is unfunny that time ago it was better the first time so I'm going to run I'm going to run with [TS]
00:38:40 ◼ ► I say by the end of the twenty ten climbing season there had been five thousand one hundred four cents to the summit. [TS]
00:38:49 ◼ ► By three thousand one hundred forty two individuals. OK So yes I guess a lot of repeat business on Mt Everest. [TS]
00:38:57 ◼ ► Imagine you get a bit of that that was worth it just to hear my joke again if you had great I tell you scary now that I [TS]
00:39:10 ◼ ► and I feel like I cannot remember for the life of me what we have talked about on the podcast [TS]
00:39:17 ◼ ► I am I am terrified of telling the same stories again on the podcast like an old man. Yeah and no it hasn't habitable. [TS]
00:39:26 ◼ ► Oh yeah that will happen over only like twenty three episodes in what's going to happen if this thing goes on longer. [TS]
00:39:32 ◼ ► Just the last two podcasts I feel we've reached that point where I've used all my good stuff [TS]
00:39:39 ◼ ► and I say like now every time I go to say something. Unlike you I'm sure I've told this before. [TS]
00:39:45 ◼ ► It's also a damning indictment of how interesting I am that all the stuff that's come before is classified as my Google [TS]
00:39:54 ◼ ► Doing something like a podcast versus talking with your friends because everybody knows with friends [TS]
00:40:01 ◼ ► You'll hear the same stories from your family a hundred times and that's fine. Everybody's cool with that. [TS]
00:40:06 ◼ ► Podcast is not cool anymore. If you can't you can't tell the same story every time that people need to be entertained. [TS]
00:40:14 ◼ ► Yes but people do need to get to say that's probably the good reason that so good to do so much follow up. [TS]
00:40:20 ◼ ► Yeah like he should because then like this reacting to what people we've never met saying there's a good chance you [TS]
00:40:26 ◼ ► Yes At least I think we'll be talking about his new if not the jokes about that Jake was new to the to the listener. [TS]
00:40:43 ◼ ► Let's move to the next follow up from before I die of embarrassment. Hello Internet. [TS]
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00:41:04 ◼ ► I was actually just playing around with square space today because they have released their new system which is called [TS]
00:41:12 ◼ ► and a whole bunch of redesigned options on the backend and different ways to manage your Web site [TS]
00:41:26 ◼ ► and you're thinking about making your own website now is really the time to do it. [TS]
00:41:38 ◼ ► There is nobody who comes to me who asks about setting up websites that I don't recommend Squarespace to it really is [TS]
00:41:46 ◼ ► the rare product that stretches the full gamut from people who know absolutely nothing about putting together a Web [TS]
00:41:52 ◼ ► site to people who know everything about putting together a website it is the solution for everyone [TS]
00:42:01 ◼ ► So many of my problems that I used to have when I ran my own website have been just completely eliminated [TS]
00:42:13 ◼ ► and I know you've heard me with that mentioned before they have all of their designs they've been around for ten years. [TS]
00:42:20 ◼ ► They have this amazing support team who again I'm just constantly surprised at how fast they respond to any emails I [TS]
00:42:27 ◼ ► send them no matter what time of day it is they're there twenty four hours a day seven days a week. [TS]
00:42:32 ◼ ► They have the little i Phone app that I use all the time to update little typos and mistakes that I've made [TS]
00:42:40 ◼ ► It's just an incredible complete solution for all your website needs so you can start a trial today with no credit card [TS]
00:42:48 ◼ ► required and begin building your website and when you decide to sign up for a square space which you definitely will. [TS]
00:43:00 ◼ ► This gives you ten percent off and it lets them know that you heard about them through our show which help support us. [TS]
00:43:19 ◼ ► But the well known internet guy underscored David Smith who makes a bunch of i Phone apps for a living he's a [TS]
00:43:30 ◼ ► He actually made something which is sort of a solution to one of my complaints about the i Phone from last time which [TS]
00:43:37 ◼ ► is that the icons are too far up for me to reach comfortably with one hand and I will put the U.R.L. In the show notes. [TS]
00:44:09 ◼ ► and you're willing to sacrifice your wallpaper then this is a potential solution so I will put that in the show notes [TS]
00:44:15 ◼ ► if people are interested and that is a very cool thing from underscore David Smith. [TS]
00:44:20 ◼ ► So they become like kind of like stuffing or filler that will force the use of calms down into within some range. [TS]
00:44:28 ◼ ► Yes he's basically using the training of how I.O.'s allows you to put bookmarks as kind of fake apps on your phone so [TS]
00:44:42 ◼ ► but you've done a clever little trick so that it doesn't even have to have anything in the name either. [TS]
00:44:47 ◼ ► So it it is a blank icon I tell you want talking about Apple in the podcast like we have the last couple of episodes [TS]
00:44:59 ◼ ► and religion of things that you should not talk about my God have you been have you gotten feedback from the people I [TS]
00:45:06 ◼ ► know I've just been I haven't been following a bit of what you know people say on Reddit and Twitter [TS]
00:45:18 ◼ ► but I mean we spent an hour talking about flags and no one complained and we talk about [TS]
00:45:25 ◼ ► and we're like you know Internet people on a podcast called hello internet people like outrage that we would deign to [TS]
00:45:32 ◼ ► talk about the release of this like world famous technology but everyone's buying. [TS]
00:45:38 ◼ ► and I actually I put this I screen shot of this little moment because I thought the summed up things very well in this [TS]
00:45:46 ◼ ► but I had this interaction with an anonymous internet person where they said in response to one of the shows I can't [TS]
00:46:03 ◼ ► and then he immediately replied that such a mac user thing to say this I think you can always says no I know you are [TS]
00:46:11 ◼ ► but one of my like only mac users would say that they don't care that other people talk. [TS]
00:46:22 ◼ ► and I can say I mean I can see why that person has replied that that's what that's that's playing to the stereotype [TS]
00:46:30 ◼ ► and like you know like I can see what I can see why that that reply was replied to your reply [TS]
00:46:38 ◼ ► but I also understand what you mean like you know yeah I guess this is not a life. [TS]
00:46:45 ◼ ► I'm surprised people care so much anyway. People people care intensely and I think I'm gonna do. [TS]
00:46:52 ◼ ► Some other people have a preference like I don't mind that people strongly feel that Android is better than Apple [TS]
00:47:02 ◼ ► or whatever like you know there's nothing wrong with Stop talking about it you know [TS]
00:47:09 ◼ ► and you know we have complained a little bit about some Iowa stuff on the podcast and I don't know if you saw [TS]
00:47:15 ◼ ► but I wrote an article a little while ago complaining about some particular problems that I have a file as are things [TS]
00:47:20 ◼ ► that I want Apple to change and I've done these a couple times and always with things like a nothing [TS]
00:47:30 ◼ ► and let me let me put Let me let me encapsulate what cars are from that appear of what they're saying to you [TS]
00:47:35 ◼ ► and it is something you should address it is a fair question because everyone knows you are incredibly fussy you want [TS]
00:47:43 ◼ ► you like things just the way you like them you know you spend months looking for a wallet you spend hours deciding on [TS]
00:47:51 ◼ ► the wallpaper of your find so you're your guy he likes things the way he likes things. [TS]
00:48:00 ◼ ► And they of you very much get what you're given when you buy Apple stuff when you know you happen to like it [TS]
00:48:07 ◼ ► but you do get what you're given right. Whereas there's this lack of trust you can't customize things as much. [TS]
00:48:16 ◼ ► OK well I guess my my my coming to Apple story really my coming to the i Phone story that's just constraints that was [TS]
00:48:25 ◼ ► when I was originally thinking about getting a real cell phone as opposed to you know my my little like everybody used [TS]
00:48:36 ◼ ► when I was thinking oh I'm going to get a smart phone I assumed knowing myself that I was going to get an Android phone [TS]
00:48:43 ◼ ► for exactly the same reason which is well I know that I like to have an incredible amount of control over the way [TS]
00:48:49 ◼ ► everything looks in the way everything Hopper rates and that is not what Apple gives you. [TS]
00:49:00 ◼ ► But when it actually came time to pick a side on this team of Android vs i Phone when I went to look this was [TS]
00:49:09 ◼ ► and for the record this was around the time of the i Phone for the Android stuff to me. [TS]
00:49:14 ◼ ► Yes it was more customizable but I found everything just more hideous and awful just the default way everything looked. [TS]
00:49:22 ◼ ► The apps that were available at the time how they worked how they interacted with things [TS]
00:49:35 ◼ ► and so I was actually quite surprised that I ended up with the i Phone I always assume that I would end up with Android [TS]
00:50:00 ◼ ► But he has problems with the operating system I wish it did this so I wish you'd let me put icons over this way I wish [TS]
00:50:05 ◼ ► I'd had a real dark mode but the operating system is really just a gateway to the applications [TS]
00:50:12 ◼ ► and now this is where my fussiness can come back into play because I know if you have an enormous choice of [TS]
00:50:24 ◼ ► or do things in little different ways I should put a link to someone put together a big chart of all of the i O. [TS]
00:50:31 ◼ ► West text editors and all of the various features they have and the list is just forever [TS]
00:50:36 ◼ ► and I spent a long time going through that list and selecting OK I needed to be able to do this [TS]
00:50:42 ◼ ► and oh by the way I also need three of these apps because I want to use each of them for different things so the [TS]
00:50:59 ◼ ► but I just I think the apps are are very useful tools to me but just like just like with talking about your wallet [TS]
00:51:06 ◼ ► or keys before I don't judge people who use Android devices. If it works for you that's awesome. [TS]
00:51:13 ◼ ► when I see people using things that are different from what I'm using I know tell me why do you do this what do you [TS]
00:51:18 ◼ ► I cannot help but always be very curious and interested in what everybody else is using to get their own work done. [TS]
00:51:33 ◼ ► or the Android people will now have is how often do you dip back into the world of Android to see how things have [TS]
00:51:40 ◼ ► changed a lot. D. Every six months do you really have a proper look and think I actually have things improved. [TS]
00:51:46 ◼ ► Is it worth the switch What do you do that now so I probably haven't touched an Android phone in the last six months [TS]
00:51:55 ◼ ► and this is exactly what people want to argue with you about oh well you know back when you were looking at the. [TS]
00:52:00 ◼ ► No for sure Android wasn't that great but you don't know how awesome it is now and this is just irrelevant. [TS]
00:52:07 ◼ ► This is not this is not like it is not my responsibility to keep on top of these things all the time because of [TS]
00:52:13 ◼ ► something called switching costs where to move from one platform to another is an enormously costly [TS]
00:52:24 ◼ ► but one of the things I have noticed from the replies that I normally get on Twitter is that the people who just tell [TS]
00:52:30 ◼ ► me use an Android phone. They seem to be college age people or much younger people. [TS]
00:52:38 ◼ ► And it's the old joke about Linux that Linux is only free if you don't value your time [TS]
00:52:45 ◼ ► and I used to use Linux in college and I loved Linux and I used to think why doesn't everybody use Linux it's free. [TS]
00:52:52 ◼ ► All he need to do is constantly put in an enormous amount of time to make sure that it is always working. But. [TS]
00:53:02 ◼ ► and I am self employed you get into the situation where by like you were talking last time you don't want to upgrade [TS]
00:53:19 ◼ ► or your work much more than your time switching costs become a much much bigger deal. [TS]
00:53:25 ◼ ► And so even if let's say we could just measure which operating systems were better in some in some possible way [TS]
00:53:34 ◼ ► and let say we knew for a fact that Android was twenty percent better for me I don't think it is. [TS]
00:53:43 ◼ ► Yeah well I.O.'s is the foundational level on which I get everything in my whole life done. [TS]
00:53:52 ◼ ► I spend most of my working time on an i Pad and that synchronizes back with my i Phone [TS]
00:54:00 ◼ ► and I can kind of ping that server from my i Pad to do things for me which then come back like there's an enormous [TS]
00:54:09 ◼ ► and twenty percent better is not worth the cost of switching over an incredibly complicated system that I have very [TS]
00:54:21 ◼ ► It's just at a certain point it's just not worth it because I have to there will be a point where Android could become [TS]
00:54:27 ◼ ► sufficiently better that you would switch I mean I have a I could spent years creating a great catalog of V.H.S. [TS]
00:54:37 ◼ ► but eventually I had to say well they're now useless because anything on there must be a point where you would you [TS]
00:54:52 ◼ ► Yes OK And so what about what about taking that twenty percent. There must be a point where it could end. [TS]
00:54:58 ◼ ► Could anything happen in the world of Android that would suddenly make it compelling [TS]
00:55:03 ◼ ► or at least make you consider it has to be a huge obvious improvement across everything he does. [TS]
00:55:13 ◼ ► It integrates like I always integrates very well with my Apple stuff which I use to edit the videos like the podcast [TS]
00:55:29 ◼ ► Yeah it's also I'm going to change the way I professionally make videos for a living [TS]
00:55:36 ◼ ► and now this is a very big question about What am I going to am I going to get a Linux machine with. [TS]
00:55:55 ◼ ► and the other thing that I think is a kind of unexpected problem is what you don't know about. [TS]
00:56:03 ◼ ► and then someone says Oh on Android you can arrange the icons anywhere that you want. [TS]
00:56:15 ◼ ► and benefits you get with one thing versus the whole set of problems and benefits you get with another thing. [TS]
00:56:20 ◼ ► It's it's a bit like when people tell me how to switch Android if I've complained about something particular on I.I.S. [TS]
00:56:25 ◼ ► It's a bit like if I'm complaining about my taxes and no taxes are really complicated [TS]
00:56:31 ◼ ► and it causes me a lot of stress over the past six months and it's just been a hugely frustrating situation [TS]
00:56:38 ◼ ► Bears don't have to worry about taxes they don't have any of these kinds of problems you know bears just get to live in [TS]
00:56:44 ◼ ► the forest you have to all of these human problems you have your worries about your pocket [TS]
00:56:51 ◼ ► but being a bear comes with a whole other set of problems many of which I don't even know about at this stage I don't [TS]
00:57:00 ◼ ► If one of the two of us is going to live as a bear I think everybody knows which one of us is going to be the bear I [TS]
00:57:11 ◼ ► The other thing also is hardware hardware lock doesn't lock you in and makes change. [TS]
00:57:23 ◼ ► I've bought a Canon and started buying all these lenses for and that made me buy a Canon video camera. [TS]
00:57:34 ◼ ► Yeah I don't like so suddenly if someone was to say you should change cameras like I came maybe [TS]
00:57:40 ◼ ► but I've invested so much in my lenses now that I kind of you know they you know that's one of the things that locks [TS]
00:57:46 ◼ ► you in once you make that decision for whatever reason you made you talk about why you made the decision [TS]
00:57:51 ◼ ► when you made it and then you start this kind of stage stack of buying of IMAX and MAC books and i Pads [TS]
00:57:58 ◼ ► and i Phones That's exactly it. He kind of and it's not like you can just change them all in one fell swoop. [TS]
00:58:04 ◼ ► I think there is a certain kind of nerd who was just driven crazy by that notion that someone might fully well [TS]
00:58:12 ◼ ► acknowledge that the other thing is better but it does not compensate for the switching costs. [TS]
00:58:24 ◼ ► Well I should say that the comment that I see very particularly is people expressing disappointment in me because they [TS]
00:58:29 ◼ ► go you know I thought I thought it was such a smart guy I can't believe he uses an Android phone. [TS]
00:58:41 ◼ ► It's just like that kind of thing I find so strange and I think that that is why the. [TS]
00:58:50 ◼ ► when you talk about people picking sides in these these Iowa because if you are the kind of person who really invests [TS]
00:58:58 ◼ ► yourself in a particular platform you almost have to come to the conclusion that everybody else who doesn't make the [TS]
00:59:08 ◼ ► or they've been fooled by marketing because you know you are all in on whatever your platform is [TS]
00:59:13 ◼ ► and so if everybody else doesn't use it you know you think that you have made this awesome decision [TS]
00:59:21 ◼ ► and I think that that's just this is that this is a much broader thing about why I hate labels in general like you I [TS]
00:59:27 ◼ ► just don't think people should self apply very many labels because it starts to limits your thinking [TS]
00:59:34 ◼ ► and it changes the way you look at other people and it's like I happen to use MAC stuff as a bunch of reasons for it. [TS]
00:59:55 ◼ ► But I do actually think it is better but I can acknowledge that even if it wasn't that. [TS]
01:00:00 ◼ ► They're the other alternatives would have to be much much better to the foundation of my whole life to change not just [TS]
01:00:07 ◼ ► the house next door to my house which is almost exactly the same that was like two percent better because I had a nice [TS]
01:00:15 ◼ ► and buy that house because of the pain in the neck of moving house and all the costs and all the taxes [TS]
01:00:21 ◼ ► and all the things and all the time wouldn't be worth it just to get it just to get that slightly nicer bathroom sink. [TS]
01:00:28 ◼ ► People I think people you know for whatever reason you went all in at some point and I'm sure maybe you know I think [TS]
01:00:41 ◼ ► but of course you have to be open to change because otherwise that's just insanity. [TS]
01:00:46 ◼ ► The other position is I will continue to use Apple software no matter how terrible it gets. [TS]
01:00:51 ◼ ► Which is the kind of implicit statement that people telling me to change over are sometimes making that they are [TS]
01:01:03 ◼ ► and they started producing awful stuff well that also affects the switching cost calculation right if if if if the [TS]
01:01:11 ◼ ► thing that I'm currently using is just absolutely terrible but I mean I'm just now just pulling a number out of a hat. [TS]
01:01:18 ◼ ► At this point in my life in order to change over everything I would have to be looking at something like like a ten X. [TS]
01:01:30 ◼ ► or however you want to measure it because otherwise it's not worth taking the amount of time to to switch over so [TS]
01:01:40 ◼ ► I would love a British paper cut Brady's paper cut is the security options of online banking too. [TS]
01:01:50 ◼ ► Two things in particular three things but OK I will just tell you things maybe that annoy me. [TS]
01:02:00 ◼ ► Times out loud I'm a liar I do not have a good attention span and sometimes I'll stop doing something [TS]
01:02:07 ◼ ► and then I'll quickly check an email or a tweet or Twitter or something and then I come back and the page is timed out. [TS]
01:02:16 ◼ ► I don't know what the time they give me is but it's not enough it's not enough it's not enough and [TS]
01:02:25 ◼ ► and I have enormous problems with this system they use where you have to give like the third seventh [TS]
01:02:38 ◼ ► Like is this something I don't know I'm always I'm always just counting them out on my fingers [TS]
01:02:43 ◼ ► and then getting one wrong and then am I using my knuckle or what finger was I up to and is much does my thumb count [TS]
01:02:49 ◼ ► and. What's going on and does I have to be that way. I know why they do that but it's still just it's infuriating. [TS]
01:03:03 ◼ ► Logging into my bank is awful and I hate the little dongle that I have to use so I mean I understand. [TS]
01:03:11 ◼ ► Obviously I don't want other people accessing my bank so this if there's any if there's any cases where inconvenience [TS]
01:03:18 ◼ ► is worth the payoff of increased security. Your bank is that place it is still it is still very very frustrating. [TS]
01:03:28 ◼ ► I have I happen to use one password to manage a lot of the passwords on my computer [TS]
01:03:33 ◼ ► and for my banking stuff what I have done with the passwords that they ask where they say oh we want the seven [TS]
01:03:43 ◼ ► I have put a space after every three so I can very visually easily grab the ones they want so they only want one the [TS]
01:03:54 ◼ ► That's really easy to see if you've grouped the password into three space three space three. [TS]
01:04:03 ◼ ► Yeah OK I mean as you know I have I have my little notebook of passwords. Oh yes of course. [TS]
01:04:10 ◼ ► but then it like in red pen above I have the numbers of the password so I can see if I can read over that [TS]
01:04:16 ◼ ► but if I haven't got my if I haven't got my notebook which I was going to say I'm not traveling with that book come [TS]
01:04:23 ◼ ► away from home for like five weeks. So I'm knocking it. Well no I didn't which I think will please you. [TS]
01:04:30 ◼ ► But the reason I didn't was because I actually forgot in a last minute I was really organized with my packing this time [TS]
01:04:44 ◼ ► and there was one little pocket on the old bag that I forgot to transfer which contained all my S.D. [TS]
01:04:50 ◼ ► and All I know with US words and things like that so they're all still at home. An enormous pain in the backside. [TS]
01:04:57 ◼ ► I'm sorry to hear that you know you're stranded without any of your passwords except the ones you can remember of stuff [TS]
01:05:02 ◼ ► you have. Yes So they have a password changing going on but not actually doing or I'm actually doing something. [TS]
01:05:10 ◼ ► Yeah yeah I think that was a that was a pipe and you're on board with that that was good to hear. [TS]
01:05:17 ◼ ► I agree with you when you're being reasonable. We had an adventure like a real life adventure. [TS]
01:05:25 ◼ ► We did we did I made a video recently and you came along for the ride it was very exciting. [TS]
01:05:32 ◼ ► You left the London bubble I did which is very rare very rare as one of the first times of elude us. [TS]
01:05:39 ◼ ► Actually I was quite I must I must of I don't know how I did I haven't been able to glue you to come up for like you [TS]
01:05:46 ◼ ► know a dinner or anything but I live with you for a film. Did you enjoy the trip did you. [TS]
01:05:53 ◼ ► and I know this because I'm not going to pretend to ask you how you came up because I picked you up from the train [TS]
01:05:57 ◼ ► station I was a train trip. Do you like trains I get really excited going on a train trip. [TS]
01:06:07 ◼ ► Still at the very start have that nice little feeling of excitement when I buy my copy of a magazine and a drink [TS]
01:06:24 ◼ ► and came from St Pancras Station Terry didn't you which is a brilliant station So you're saying I think Chris Yeah I [TS]
01:06:29 ◼ ► came across in Paris which is beautiful absolutely beautiful train station it is the one which if you've seen the Harry [TS]
01:06:36 ◼ ► Potter films that's they're using the same bankers one although it is King's Cross in the books because of some [TS]
01:06:44 ◼ ► But if you've seen the exterior of that train station that is a train station that I left from [TS]
01:06:48 ◼ ► and yes I have to say that is one of the most gorgeous train stations I have ever seen the great. [TS]
01:06:57 ◼ ► and be ready to go on a little train ride even if it's a relatively short journey. [TS]
01:07:03 ◼ ► and if I made a note on this last journey because I thought oh great you might like to know this. [TS]
01:07:08 ◼ ► I thought of something that is old and obviously less convenient than the modern alternative but that I like better [TS]
01:07:16 ◼ ► and I thought I would I would tell you about an old thing that I like home and I can't tell you how excited you are. [TS]
01:07:23 ◼ ► I don't know what to call them but I miss the claque e train signs that used to roll over when they would tell you [TS]
01:07:32 ◼ ► when the platforms would change and would go clack clack clack clack clack clack clack. [TS]
01:07:41 ◼ ► Yeah so I realize when I first moved to London which is eleven years ago now I know I can even keep track of it. [TS]
01:07:48 ◼ ► When I used to take trains all over the place the stations that I went to particular Victoria Station had those old [TS]
01:08:01 ◼ ► When someone I used to go from now yeah Victoria is one I used to go to a lot tell you that. [TS]
01:08:08 ◼ ► It was almost like this bizarre moment of excitement that once they start turning over it oh boy it it almost feels [TS]
01:08:17 ◼ ► Yes that is exactly what I was thinking of it's like the lottery balls rolling around [TS]
01:08:20 ◼ ► and I go we're going to come out what platform is going to be show me strange clacking machine and it makes noise [TS]
01:08:26 ◼ ► and I like has some random element involved because things are hitting each other. Yeah that's what. [TS]
01:08:32 ◼ ► Obviously it's pre-determined there is no randomness here but if it's still it just feels exciting [TS]
01:08:38 ◼ ► and the noise is just such a train station kind of thing and I was about that when I was standing [TS]
01:08:49 ◼ ► and I was I was waiting to find out what train I was going to get on to see you obviously the screen [TS]
01:08:58 ◼ ► Even though I know it is a million times more practical for a train station to use all the L.C.D. [TS]
01:09:04 ◼ ► but I thought I could I could do with something that's a little bit more romantic here. [TS]
01:09:11 ◼ ► So would you put one in your house my house is not a train station so no why would I put it in my house just to have a [TS]
01:09:27 ◼ ► and besides that disappointment in the trench it was a most picturesque journey you came out as Lester [TS]
01:09:36 ◼ ► and in sort of the middle of England it's not the most picturesque journey that one from London up to Leicester it's [TS]
01:09:44 ◼ ► Yeah I guess the reason the reason I'm hesitating there is because you know you know I'm a pretty optimistic guy about [TS]
01:09:53 ◼ ► the future of the world in the state of society I'm pretty optimistic. The one time I feel a cloud. [TS]
01:10:06 ◼ ► If I'm on a train and I am in the quiet cabin and other people are not quiet I don't understand [TS]
01:10:15 ◼ ► and understand the world and it makes me really grumpy and I feel like we're on that we're in the quiet train. [TS]
01:10:21 ◼ ► People shouldn't judge you understand this is not the place for your cell phone conversation you two elected to be on [TS]
01:10:27 ◼ ► the quiet train there's a whole bunch of other cabins they could move to. I know it's not like they're not catered to. [TS]
01:10:33 ◼ ► I know that this is this is why I like this is we have tried to have this little area where self-selecting people can [TS]
01:10:40 ◼ ► go and we can sit and we can be quiet together and ignore each other but when people are on the quiet train [TS]
01:10:48 ◼ ► and they themselves cannot possibly be quiet that is what it is one time where I feel like all of society is doomed if [TS]
01:10:54 ◼ ► we can't if we can't pull this little tiny bit off any time I think it's OK to make noise [TS]
01:11:00 ◼ ► and have a phone call in the quiet cabin is if it's me who needs to make the noise [TS]
01:11:12 ◼ ► So you are that if that is what I assume every one of these people on that you're quite sane is thinking oh my phone [TS]
01:11:20 ◼ ► call conversation slash unattended daughter who is running up and down the aisle. Oh that's perfectly fine. [TS]
01:11:33 ◼ ► but I'm sure that that mother on my last train who I was particularly irritated with she's thinking the same thing too. [TS]
01:11:39 ◼ ► Oh my kid is totally fine my phone conversation is totally fine. I'm in the quiet train everybody else is being quiet. [TS]
01:11:47 ◼ ► They're giving me the stink eye but it's fine because it's me I was joking I like very well I'm a square. [TS]
01:11:55 ◼ ► I follow the rules I don't like breaking rules. Why can't we pull this together people. [TS]
01:12:03 ◼ ► So we've kind of and I had to put this but I found it hard to understand the kids who just couldn't be quiet. [TS]
01:12:09 ◼ ► All I'm asking for is in action it is literally the easiest thing in the world and you want to be loud [TS]
01:12:31 ◼ ► and I just want to do stuff that just got too much energy it's like trying to contain the sun inside a lunch box it's [TS]
01:12:43 ◼ ► and I just think I bet I know exactly what you were like in school but you couldn't be quiet in school either. [TS]
01:12:48 ◼ ► Quiet cabins make me feel like I can't believe this whole civilization project has worked out as well as it has [TS]
01:12:54 ◼ ► and makes me slightly gloomy but a sigh. From that I had a lovely trip. So you came up to list. [TS]
01:13:01 ◼ ► Maybe you should tell people what was going on like because I'm I think I'm a bit close to this project. [TS]
01:13:09 ◼ ► So you invited me up because you had printed out a million digits of pi onto a one mile long strip of paper [TS]
01:13:26 ◼ ► Now here in England and you were going to unroll it on an airstrip which took you a while to find [TS]
01:13:34 ◼ ► and this was all in service of celebration for your one million subscribers numbers which ties in very nicely with what [TS]
01:13:41 ◼ ► we're talking about before this I was my Nobel Prize moment just like the Nobel Prize if the prize was You Tube [TS]
01:13:49 ◼ ► describers and paper on an airplane runway. So that's that's what this was. You printed out the million digits. [TS]
01:14:00 ◼ ► And yes if you found it I was a retired or retired but it was a it was a former Air Force [TS]
01:14:07 ◼ ► but it was a bit unclear to me what they were currently doing but yeah it's a place called Bunting thought [TS]
01:14:12 ◼ ► and it was it was like a you know one of these World War two bases so it has the you know the long huge long runway [TS]
01:14:20 ◼ ► and it's gone through various incarnations since then its current use is a backup proving ground so they've kind of [TS]
01:14:29 ◼ ► they use as a kind of test track and they have sort of the main runway is like the main strike [TS]
01:14:37 ◼ ► and it's also used for storing cuz there's loads of like thousands upon thousands of cars there [TS]
01:15:01 ◼ ► and then just taken delivery of a retired Cathay Pacific seven four seven which was just sitting at the end of the [TS]
01:15:08 ◼ ► runway like yeah still looking you know looking with all the livery on it and looking like it could just turn around [TS]
01:15:13 ◼ ► and take off any moment it didn't look like it was retarded just like it had been parked which it pretty much was that [TS]
01:15:22 ◼ ► Yeah so if you follow a checklist we would have been able to fly off of that seven Force I wonder how much fuel was [TS]
01:15:28 ◼ ► and I don't know conceivably that would've been a hell of a million subscribers see Brady jump in a seven hundred [TS]
01:15:35 ◼ ► eleven and just say we're doing it man. I wonder I wonder if we actually did steal a seven for seven. [TS]
01:15:47 ◼ ► Would just shoot us out of the sky and I don't think that necessarily may not be a loss. [TS]
01:15:54 ◼ ► Saying if you have His eyes of a crash investigation I can handle this bad boy. I'm just thinking of that. [TS]
01:16:01 ◼ ► There's a rogue seven four seven in British airspace. I don't think that would last very long. [TS]
01:16:06 ◼ ► I don't think I can stay up for very a lot of media that would make the day you too young. [TS]
01:16:14 ◼ ► and then got shot out of the other video they have to recover from the black box that we can from from the roof. [TS]
01:16:26 ◼ ► and that was about how many people do that ten percent of people in the end I think. [TS]
01:16:30 ◼ ► So you I think you with a stent simply just to be an observer to witness the spectacle. [TS]
01:16:35 ◼ ► Well this was how it was pitched it was pitched as come along and watch this fun thing that we're going to do [TS]
01:16:43 ◼ ► and so that is what I signed up for but at the end of the day I had a flail he busted ankle [TS]
01:16:49 ◼ ► and my hands were very dirty and I've been jumping in and out of a van and it was raining [TS]
01:16:55 ◼ ► and dropping traffic cones all over the place that is honest to God the most physical labor I have probably done. [TS]
01:17:02 ◼ ► In like ten years. Not only Monday and I was pretty impressed you were you know you were good you got it. [TS]
01:17:09 ◼ ► I think it was one of the things it became very clear to all of us very fast that this was a this was a big job [TS]
01:17:16 ◼ ► and it was going to be slow going. We maybe had bitten off more than we could chew. [TS]
01:17:25 ◼ ► and it's still it's still felt to me like we just barely pulled that thing off in the end with a tear like with ten [TS]
01:17:32 ◼ ► guys dealing with traffic cones and unrolling the paper and all kinds of craziness [TS]
01:17:41 ◼ ► and I really enjoyed the day in spite of the physical labor that I was not told about in advance. [TS]
01:17:54 ◼ ► and maybe there was a high degree of brain cracking going on here. But looming over them. [TS]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Are we expecting today to be like what it is you think we're just going to roll it down the runway on its own. [TS]
01:18:07 ◼ ► The the paper the mile long piece of paper was more difficult to manage than I expected [TS]
01:18:16 ◼ ► and we obviously there was the paces of rain on the day which probably wasn't the biggest problem. [TS]
01:18:24 ◼ ► and although in some ways maybe we were lucky because it sort of it did maybe make things stick down a bit more [TS]
01:18:34 ◼ ► and like I didn't quite comprehend how susceptible to wind that piece of paper all day and [TS]
01:18:47 ◼ ► If there had been a really windy day can you imagine what that will. It's would've happened wouldn't it wouldn't have. [TS]
01:19:01 ◼ ► and trying to keep it on a runway in a very very flat area that that tiny bit of a breeze was a huge problem. [TS]
01:19:08 ◼ ► So we were quite lucky with the weather because yes we knew you kept messaging me fretting about the rain [TS]
01:19:20 ◼ ► and sending me messages I can go back to my i Message history and poll times you start to worry about both [TS]
01:19:25 ◼ ► but neither of us even thought about the wind as a potential issue and that turned out to be the real big problem. [TS]
01:19:31 ◼ ► I know lots of comments under the final video saying that you want as you do on such a wet grey day [TS]
01:19:42 ◼ ► and use it on any day I liked like I don't know what people think but for those who don't realize this. [TS]
01:19:47 ◼ ► Like I butcher this I booked it in advance and you can't have these places any time you like. [TS]
01:19:54 ◼ ► Whatever the weather was going to be it was what the weather was going to be and there was no [TS]
01:20:03 ◼ ► and I'm not invested in this because it was because I have I don't know why I did it because I did love the idea too [TS]
01:20:08 ◼ ► much fun and yes I was ill when I was only and whatever the weather was was what we had to do with. [TS]
01:20:14 ◼ ► So yeah I've been hearing about you planning this for quite a while I had a while to get the to find a place to print a [TS]
01:20:25 ◼ ► but I do like you know you if you appease these kinds of comments whenever you do anything in public [TS]
01:20:32 ◼ ► And there's a million reasons why we didn't do it just the way that you might have might have suggested [TS]
01:20:37 ◼ ► and I do love the notion that you could just rock up at the airstrip at any time and say outs of rolled up paper today. [TS]
01:20:45 ◼ ► So just. Even even if the airfields that I'll come down whenever we're not using it don't worry. [TS]
01:20:51 ◼ ► You still need to coordinate ten other people and their schedules to get everybody there at the same time [TS]
01:20:57 ◼ ► and you can't just roll a roll out of bed one Sunday morning stretch your arms take a look out the window [TS]
01:21:03 ◼ ► and say I wanted to look like the day we're going to unravel the pie so it's a lot of planning in these kinds of things [TS]
01:21:10 ◼ ► but they came off very well. You should feel very pleased about it. It was unable people to watch. [TS]
01:21:16 ◼ ► Hasn't had time watched by many people but if you haven't already paused it and go [TS]
01:21:20 ◼ ► and go watch the video you should definitely Myla Google mile of Pi operating properly and put in the Senate. [TS]
01:21:27 ◼ ► I had some help with a couple people who were much better at operating cameras than me [TS]
01:21:42 ◼ ► The drone footage looks great and it was very fun to see the drone in action on the day. Drones are just great. [TS]
01:21:53 ◼ ► Yeah I was going to go right next to your telescope and which is still in the box and I'm sure I'm there. [TS]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Or a number of other toys around jet wash my water jet wash still in the water washing over this one. Does it wash it. [TS]
01:22:08 ◼ ► It's you know you can wash cars with blast pavement something like that but they disco things [TS]
01:22:13 ◼ ► and I think one last Christmas and I still haven't used it last Christmas. OK So this is this is the problem. [TS]
01:22:21 ◼ ► Yes maybe you can get a drone I imagine it would fit in a box in your house for quite a while before you ever actually [TS]
01:22:28 ◼ ► There's also a law isn't thing depending on what you want to do and how you want to use it's not it's not trivial. [TS]
01:22:34 ◼ ► Where I live is like a quiet quaint seaside town like it looks really old fashioned It looks like from the Victorian [TS]
01:22:41 ◼ ► era and it's got this old here and it's the seesaws Coello buildings hasn't been modernized It's very quaint [TS]
01:22:49 ◼ ► and lovely and a couple of times a year the steam that comes out is so old fashioned steam [TS]
01:22:57 ◼ ► and it goes to a few of the piers along the coast and picks tourists up and takes them on a big day trip [TS]
01:23:06 ◼ ► I was having like breakfast by the seaside with my wife the other day like it's very lovely all very lovely [TS]
01:23:10 ◼ ► and then the woman serving us breakfast says all the steam is coming today and we'll call we had no idea. [TS]
01:23:24 ◼ ► and then the steam we heard the statement coming from around the the other side of the point and what it could have [TS]
01:23:32 ◼ ► but you could have been going back hundred years like that's what it was like it really was like it gone back in time [TS]
01:23:51 ◼ ► Needy they are going to roll out their arse and I remember the feeling I get over this. It hovered above the stage. [TS]
01:24:00 ◼ ► And above the pier for the whole time the state code up on the whole time that people boarded in the whole time [TS]
01:24:08 ◼ ► and it would have been the most beautiful thing ever except the whole time in this little mosquito of a rowboat was [TS]
01:24:17 ◼ ► ruining the whole thing and all the pictures you know we were taking with their phones to capture the moment. [TS]
01:24:22 ◼ ► Or had this snotty little white helicopter and so I do love that man made it said he made the pie video fantastic [TS]
01:24:30 ◼ ► but there's a time and a place maybe out and out and I had and I want to thank It certainly ruined it for me [TS]
01:24:39 ◼ ► Yeah I mean this is what it is where in the in the in the eternal conflict between say the progress of technology [TS]
01:24:49 ◼ ► and laws regulating that technology in which the laws are are behind the times normally [TS]
01:25:00 ◼ ► but the drones are definitely one issue whereas like what we need we need to decide as a society very quickly what the [TS]
01:25:09 ◼ ► rules are going to be about these things because the price of the drones are just dropping very quickly. [TS]
01:25:22 ◼ ► Yet it is like this this is one of the very rare cases where I would I would say I think we really need to sort out the [TS]
01:25:40 ◼ ► when we hit a point at which you know like like Amazon is working on automated drones and drone delivery [TS]
01:25:48 ◼ ► and say well we need to we need to sort out some stuff in advance before before this happens because you know rather [TS]
01:25:54 ◼ ► than rather than chopping the price I wish they'd do something to chop the noice Well this is this is what I mean is. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Legislate some kind of decreasing decibel level over time saying that you cannot legally sell a drone that is louder [TS]
01:26:13 ◼ ► and like let's bring this down over time to make sure they're quiet because you have a lot of the issue with them I [TS]
01:26:27 ◼ ► There have been some some cases that have come out about what is reasonable expectation of privacy with people's homes [TS]
01:26:37 ◼ ► and you have cameras on those as like parts of people's houses that were never accessible from street level view are [TS]
01:26:43 ◼ ► very accessible from a higher level view with a drone like that lots of questions about this kind of stuff [TS]
01:26:51 ◼ ► but we do need to decide what what the rules are going to be about these things anyway. [TS]
01:26:55 ◼ ► But then I would be I would be very annoyed as well if I was enjoying the sight of an old steamer [TS]
01:27:00 ◼ ► and some guys drone was ruining the whole thing for everybody there with the pie thing was cool shot that was that it [TS]
01:27:12 ◼ ► There is some guy's house just on the other side of the tree line who can who have been sitting on his back yard [TS]
01:27:27 ◼ ► What did the whole thing put you off or give you a taste for making real life videos with humans and nature [TS]
01:27:36 ◼ ► and stuff I know I have I have on occasion thought about doing videos that are real life videos [TS]
01:27:49 ◼ ► and it's also a question of trying to you know learning how to do that versus learning [TS]
01:27:54 ◼ ► or doing that versus doing the current project so that this is also the problem of just being a self employed person. [TS]
01:28:00 ◼ ► If you have way more projects that you want to do then you possibly have time and ability to do [TS]
01:28:06 ◼ ► and there are a number of things around London that I constantly think about who I'd love to do this as a real life [TS]
01:28:19 ◼ ► and particularly on the Pi Day that it is so much more work behind the scenes than you ever think it is I mean you had [TS]
01:28:29 ◼ ► Matt Parker was there on the day with us who was the kind of on screen pie expert and if you were just driving up [TS]
01:28:36 ◼ ► and down this runway with him for a huge portion of the day just constantly filming him talk about interesting sections [TS]
01:28:47 ◼ ► and I mean I'm going to guess probably half of that you didn't use in the final video. [TS]
01:28:53 ◼ ► I don't I mean I know I did put it in the long next director wanted half an hour along with the actual the actual [TS]
01:29:01 ◼ ► millions of covers video I'm going to guess you use maybe half of the material you actually filmed not even knowing it. [TS]
01:29:08 ◼ ► So I am I am very much aware of these things are a lot more work than than people probably think they are all of the [TS]
01:29:16 ◼ ► video that you film. There's so much more that you have to capture than you actually do so. [TS]
01:29:21 ◼ ► I think I'll probably leave the in real life videos to You but I think that's probably probably wise. [TS]
01:29:26 ◼ ► Well I did I did get much amusement from saying you lived in traffic cones around and you're you're a real workhorse. [TS]
01:29:36 ◼ ► Using you know you are. I was using you for your bra that is but that is definitely the case. [TS]
01:29:42 ◼ ► Go it just have fun with it driving on a runway that you seem to really enjoy that you liked. [TS]
01:29:50 ◼ ► and I did say at one point do you want to do you want to do the next drive fast you can go in [TS]
01:29:53 ◼ ► and I had no interest doing this know what So I thought maybe you'd say yes. He said No I just said. [TS]
01:30:02 ◼ ► Well first first of all I was shocked that you would let somebody else drive your car on the day you just like handing [TS]
01:30:11 ◼ ► and down the runway so I couldn't believe that you were that generous with your personal items. [TS]
01:30:17 ◼ ► But now I it wasn't there wasn't much to hit to be fair I wouldn't be giving my keys to people if it was like you know [TS]
01:30:26 ◼ ► and somehow that was my car you can bet no one would be driving my car but I had no choice. [TS]
01:30:32 ◼ ► Necessity is the mother of generosity. But I guess I have never driven a car in the U.K. [TS]
01:30:41 ◼ ► Well that's why I thought this was a perfect chance Fionn lucky two mile long runway that was like most of the one [TS]
01:30:47 ◼ ► hundred metres wide as well like this was your perfect job. You know take a baby step. [TS]
01:30:52 ◼ ► So I just I also I'm not a huge fan of driving and I don't ever plan to really drive in the U.K. [TS]
01:31:01 ◼ ► and I would not enjoy driving fast just for the sake of it because that feels like oh. [TS]
01:31:14 ◼ ► I am I am and I am an old granny driver as many people would say and even when I was like letting loose [TS]
01:31:24 ◼ ► So so it's not it's not like I would have been there saying for us to grow you know break the sound barrier. [TS]
01:31:31 ◼ ► but anyway it was it was fun it was fun it was just fun driving on a runway like no not for the spade just for the like [TS]
01:31:42 ◼ ► And my favorite one of my favorite moments was the we had this problem weighing down the piece of paper because we [TS]
01:31:48 ◼ ► didn't have in the end we were using traffic kinds we used a few bags of sand I brought along [TS]
01:32:00 ◼ ► and in the end by luck at the other end of the two mile run my I found a whole bunch of traffic kind bases one is the [TS]
01:32:06 ◼ ► base of kinds and they were really really heavy so you and I started firing back and forward [TS]
01:32:13 ◼ ► and picking up all these bases and bringing them back to the the team who are rolling [TS]
01:32:18 ◼ ► but the other thing that was down the other end of that Romo Yeah yeah there was like the runway had like a big giant [TS]
01:32:26 ◼ ► and at the end of the runway it turned in a right angle to sort of cover the cover the the end of the runway so it was [TS]
01:32:33 ◼ ► as big right angled hedge and sort of buried in this right angle was like it was not the wreckage [TS]
01:32:39 ◼ ► but it was like it was the fuselage of an old plane that had its wings removed and it was in bad condition [TS]
01:32:45 ◼ ► and it looks it looked a mess and I Seamus used for training or something or spare parts I don't know [TS]
01:32:52 ◼ ► but it looked it looked it looked pretty bad and I was just in the corner and that was plane crash course. [TS]
01:33:00 ◼ ► and it was tucked right in this like this right angles that we couldn't have looked more color like [TS]
01:33:04 ◼ ► and I was like you know that is why I was like that's a plane crash corridor and suddenly you it yeah. [TS]
01:33:11 ◼ ► And we went we even went took Sophie sort of like your impression of me by the way is how I said What are you are you [TS]
01:33:20 ◼ ► are unusually unusually slow on the uptake but maybe that in a different headspace to me [TS]
01:33:25 ◼ ► and then let your face lit up when you realized maybe you're just exhausted from begging for those kinds. [TS]
01:33:31 ◼ ► Yes Yes because you were driving the car and I was pulling the code bases out of the back of the car. [TS]
01:33:40 ◼ ► and so I was driving alone just a couple of miles an hour and you are having to run to catch up [TS]
01:33:44 ◼ ► and the children of the moving car that was at the Indiana Jones of you know it was a good listener. [TS]
01:33:49 ◼ ► Yes it was it was very daring of me it's mostly just dirty because those girls were in some kind of typhoid swamp water [TS]
01:34:03 ◼ ► It wasn't until I kept thinking of was do you just don't cut your hands on anything here if you don't want this water [TS]
01:34:20 ◼ ► Surgical It was awful but despite despite all of it over again it was it was a very interesting [TS]
01:34:26 ◼ ► and very very fun day and interesting for me to see you pulling off a project managing a whole bunch of people [TS]
01:34:36 ◼ ► and in different places throughout the day it was it was it was quite an experience [TS]
01:34:41 ◼ ► and I'm glad that you invited me up it was one I have to say like like it looks and sounds almost heroic [TS]
01:34:54 ◼ ► and I imagine maybe this is what it's like for people who work on big Hollywood movies. [TS]
01:35:02 ◼ ► when you start doing something that involves this level of teamwork. You suddenly unaware of like so much stuff. [TS]
01:35:10 ◼ ► Let me do this because there was a team that was using this big contraption to roll out the paper [TS]
01:35:18 ◼ ► and they were dealing with their own sets of problems and things that worked and didn't work and challenges [TS]
01:35:23 ◼ ► and there was a lot of the time I was with Matt doing sort of filming further down the paper talking about numbers [TS]
01:35:28 ◼ ► and stuff like that and then there were other little sub teams that were sent off on a mission to go [TS]
01:35:33 ◼ ► and find more kinds or do this and that but everyone had a really different experience of the day. [TS]
01:35:39 ◼ ► And like I watched obviously I was watching back the footage from the other people who were helping film like a day [TS]
01:35:44 ◼ ► or two later and it was just whole things that I'd completely missed about the day [TS]
01:35:48 ◼ ► and then it was quiet it was quite a new thing for me who's very sort of independent does everything on my own it was [TS]
01:35:54 ◼ ► quite a new thing and quite and quite different and nice experience to sort of see and I can imagine it. [TS]
01:36:00 ◼ ► I'm making a film and you have you know a second units going to doing other things and set designers [TS]
01:36:05 ◼ ► but there's a whole there's a whole world going on you're unaware of right it was a that was a slightly new experience [TS]
01:36:15 ◼ ► News so I'm aware of making a program where there are whole elements I had nothing to do with [TS]
01:36:22 ◼ ► and had to put the final thing together it was a really weird sensation to not see the drone footage for two [TS]
01:36:30 ◼ ► and it's like a new surprise like days after the event was really it was really weird sensation but you're good at it. [TS]
01:36:37 ◼ ► Yeah so is that I think Rajat going to be the there is one other one which is sort of in the pipeline [TS]
01:36:44 ◼ ► but I don't think it will ever happen and once it's confirmed it won't happen I might not talk about it [TS]
01:36:50 ◼ ► but I can in case it does happen I can't talk about it you know you tell me on not just you know you know that it's not [TS]
01:36:56 ◼ ► just the secrecy is obviously for security reasons I forgot I'm better than the best friend I have no idea I was [TS]
01:37:02 ◼ ► Yeah I can't talk about that one but that would be it wouldn't be as like difficult and as far as grand [TS]
01:37:11 ◼ ► but it would be maybe catching but other than that oh pretty normal to have been made. [TS]
01:37:17 ◼ ► Some interesting paper the last few days. Must I didn't tell you about this. I'm a vice president of Google. [TS]
01:37:24 ◼ ► Oh yeah I'm I met a person one of those people who works at Apple but can't tell you anything about what they do. [TS]
01:37:31 ◼ ► My first experience of that of most people at Apple. But yeah Yeah and but he seems really important right. [TS]
01:37:42 ◼ ► and there's no title that's how I measure pure white business card and last night I met one of the world's richest man. [TS]
01:37:49 ◼ ► He's been described as the world's smartest a billionaire I was I was going to ask on Twitter who that was [TS]
01:37:54 ◼ ► but I thought he came I got hold of Jim Simons Jim Simon and Jim Simons who you know. [TS]
01:38:00 ◼ ► When hardly anyone's head off he values I went ahead. I'm reaching for Google right now. [TS]
01:38:13 ◼ ► and you know millions of transactions are happening every day in trades and and he's he's a mathematician [TS]
01:38:30 ◼ ► or something on the rich twelve point five billion dollars are also incredibly generous incredibly smart. [TS]
01:38:44 ◼ ► I respect him for a minute or two afterwards but I was very impressed by him he does not wear socks. [TS]
01:39:00 ◼ ► but did you add it as part of your interview I didn't know I didn't interview him this was just chatting to him [TS]
01:39:07 ◼ ► but he wears because whenever I make someone who's really really rich like I've met a few really rich people I've met [TS]
01:39:12 ◼ ► Rupert Murdoch and his sons a few times and stuff I was really fascinated by what they wear in their clothes [TS]
01:39:19 ◼ ► and say I always like to say they look different to a normal person could you tell that person was a billionaire. [TS]
01:39:26 ◼ ► If you didn't know they're a billionaire so I was looking at how he dressed he was dressed very normal just normal [TS]
01:39:31 ◼ ► slacks and a jacket and he was wearing a nice loaf is I'm sure they're expensive Italian life is [TS]
01:39:41 ◼ ► I do not know why he doesn't my socks I must ask someone but that was my my abiding memory [TS]
01:39:47 ◼ ► but I have a few abiding memories of what he said he was very wise and interesting [TS]
01:39:50 ◼ ► but my abiding memory of what he looked like was he does not wear socks. So that's how he wants to be remembered. [TS]
01:40:00 ◼ ► I think I think I think he's there I think as a few things he'll be remembered for. [TS]
01:40:07 ◼ ► but he's got a few things named after him he's he's not he's not a trivial mathematician but then his [TS]
01:40:14 ◼ ► but then at some point in the seventy's or eighty's or something he said All right let's try this market thing [TS]
01:40:21 ◼ ► and then he cracked it big time. Would you like to be really really rich. Obviously yes. [TS]
01:40:27 ◼ ► Who's going to who's going to say no to that people who aren't honest with themselves. [TS]
01:40:35 ◼ ► and it's no it's no secret that being incredibly rich incredibly rich comes with its own set of problems. [TS]
01:40:43 ◼ ► Oh yeah of course and quite big problems so on of course you would like a few million dollars [TS]
01:40:49 ◼ ► but I'm talking billions like would you like to be that kind of guy like you know one of the richest men in the world. [TS]
01:40:55 ◼ ► Here's here's the thing is I think this James Simons guy this is exactly the kind of way that you want to be rich is [TS]
01:41:07 ◼ ► Nobody really knows who this person is and I think Bill Gates kind of rich is a whole different story. [TS]
01:41:16 ◼ ► Gates I don't think there's a place on the face of the earth Bill Gates can go without being recognized as Bill Gates [TS]
01:41:22 ◼ ► and that is that is a different question do you want to be rich and famous. No no thank you. [TS]
01:41:29 ◼ ► Fame is not a desirable thing at all. So to be very very wealthy is good as long as you are also not shockingly famous. [TS]
01:41:39 ◼ ► So that's that's the way I look at many of the downsides of being very wealthy are from other people knowing that you [TS]
01:41:57 ◼ ► and that's a good point you might even like. Even if you're like you know quite an anonymous billionaire. [TS]
01:42:09 ◼ ► And that creates an interesting dynamic doesn't it with your friends and your family [TS]
01:42:15 ◼ ► This is this is the whole this is the whole thing right is just take as as much as we as a society might like to [TS]
01:42:21 ◼ ► pretend otherwise it is practically very difficult for someone who actually has billions of dollars to be friends with [TS]
01:42:32 ◼ ► Because the the gap in life is just so enormous that that it is like what are you even going to talk about sometimes. [TS]
01:42:41 ◼ ► So this is also the same reason why celebrities tend to marry other celebrities is not because that they're oh they [TS]
01:42:51 ◼ ► It's now this is it this is the orbit of people who understand the kinds of problems that you have if you're a wealthy [TS]
01:43:01 ◼ ► They can intermingle in a way that that it's harder to mix with people outside of that group of the billionaire the [TS]
01:43:11 ◼ ► and that I think that makes perfect sense so I guess I guess really what I'm saying here is ideally I would like to [TS]
01:43:26 ◼ ► Trying to think how I can be absolutely sure you don't have billions of dollars because you wouldn't if anyone was [TS]
01:43:38 ◼ ► Well this is I think from what the other things that you know about the I would I would still be doing the podcast if I [TS]