00:00:00 ◼ ► I have a feeling that today's episode is going to be a little bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► What I did in my holidays like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► when you go to that disco than ever in history right there I say oh by the way someone got in touch the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/6">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► and said Do you realize you didn't invent the term humble brag it's been around for ages and there's a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/13">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► We are well aware of that in fact the first time humbled brake came up was you pointing out the twitter of the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/19">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► who is really into it so we don't think we invented humble brag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/27">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► Yes For the record we just enjoy a good humble brag and we kind of we discuss that way too often. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/30">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► Yes although I believe you are probably the originator of the word hollow brag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► Hello Frank Yes well I have another one that I want to spring on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/41">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► and this is called The Brag humble this is going to be trouble this is going to be trouble what is Ike first I quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/46">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► like the name Brad Kumble because it's you know he's busy bragging humble like easy Breaking Bad so I think is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/54">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► breaking humble sounds kind of code. But but the Bragg humble is the opposite of the humble brag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/60">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► It contains both components but with different intent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► So first let's establish the humbug read all about bits of those for that for those who may have missed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/71">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► What we need to throw more confusion into the thing a group of our. I feel like I'm already thanking you for this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/83">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► Well get people off. Go ahead go ahead. For for those who may have missed it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/91">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► The humble brag is about saying something that is a sensibly humble but your real intent is to brag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/98">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► Right that's where your intent is in a humble brag is an OK brag. Right that's what you doing right. Do you agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/105">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► Yeah we agree that we have agreed on the brag humble is when you brag that the intent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/111">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Of the brag is to increase the humility. OK I'm going to sample this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/120">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► OK Let me give you an example as you know I was recently in California and I was mainly in Berkeley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/126">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► but one day I went to the other famous university in the area which is Stanford so I went I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/133">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► and spent the night in a hotel because I had an early meeting got up early and you know I got prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► and made my way to a meeting with a really famous important person who I was who I can't believe I got to make because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/146">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► he rarely makes with people a girl called Don And in the world of computer science I am bragging right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/154">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► OK I get it you know I went to his house I spent hours with them when we filmed some things from number fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/162">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► and computers are Had a GREAT had a great time with them it was fantastic. Me and don't connect the wow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/168">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► And even at the end he even said I had a really good time I really enjoyed it and I felt like a million dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/176">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► I then went to I went to another meeting in the form of the meeting I went to the bathroom and looked in the mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/181">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► and there was this huge white streak going from the corner of my mouth basically to all the way to my ear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/189">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► Really like I was lucky like I was painted like you know like Indian War Paint it was so prominent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/196">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► and also what on earth is that what's happened. So I put my finger on it and tasted it because that's what I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/202">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► And luckily luckily it wasn't for what it was was a huge streak of toothpaste so clearly and I do remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/212">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► and what had happened that morning is I had my electric toothbrush with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► but I had run out of power so I brushed my teeth with like a normal tooth brush isn't a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/228">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► and I don't like it doesn't work satisfactorily and I was in a rush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► and I didn't look in the mirror because I'm rubbish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► You know when I was not around to look after me I just bought rubbish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► and stuff so basically I spent I spent my morning with a great man a computer science you know having a fantastic time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/242">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► with this enormous strip of toothpaste going all the way from my mouth to my ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/250">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► and he's too nice a guy to bring it up he was a total gentleman and I met his wife and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► and I must've looked like the biggest idiot of all time. And there you go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/259">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► That is Greg humble because because the intent to brag just increased the humbleness at the end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/264">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► but more importantly I need to know how did you get the toothpaste in his streak going all the way up to your ear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/277">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► Did you would put a tooth brush in your mouth and you missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► and you dragged it all along the side of your face is this a scenario under which you had a streak of toothpaste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/289">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► running along the side of your face. I I don't understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► I've said it before and I'll say again I'm not a morning person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/299">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► Yeah but that's that's pretty impressive to miss your mouth with the tooth brush. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/304">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► I mean that I know that when I want to know what has he know what happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► Hey you know what happened but I think you know what happened I don't know what happened there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/313">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► I didn't you know that's what happened to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► So when you know when it happened I thought that's a good story I have to grab out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► and then I thought I'm not humble bragging I'm bragging humble bragging humble because I could have told you that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/326">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► without the don't know talent when it was would be a story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/332">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► But putting the braggin increased the humility do you know gray it makes it it makes it more embarrassing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/336">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► I don't know if it makes it more humbling unfold on the Bragg humble I think I think he just going nuts with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/347">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► variation on the simple brag and this one is. A bit of reaching for straws. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/357">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► If if if I'm being honest with you I think this is just an embarrassing story made worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/361">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► but you know the more you say that the more I think it works the more you say yes it's made worse you know it increases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/368">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► the embarrassment the more I think I'm on to something here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► Well Greg it's a very humble I think we will have to let listeners decide. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/378">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► One of the main things from the last conversation was how You Tube handles sending people notifications that new videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/383">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► from the people they are subscribed to are out so happy how do people basically consume their You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/393">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► and tons of people got in touch to tell me about how on youtube there is a section which is called. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/400">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► He's called my subscriptions or something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► We still has the old behavior of You Tube which is where I think it just lists all of your channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/410">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► and it shows which ones have new videos and which ones do not have new videos and I was very much aware of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/417">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► when we were having this conversation this is not a new piece of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► but I just wanted to point out is as a little a little minor thing that whenever you're talking about stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/428">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► computers you have to assume that the default action is basically what everybody does because so few people ever change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/434">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► the settings I can't recall where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► but I read some some analysis from app creators about how many people ever change any of the settings in their apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/448">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► and it is basically nobody has certain kinds of people are completely blown away by that information because I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/456">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► sort of person who is that who I download a new app before I even see what it really does let me look at all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/462">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► settings What can I say how can I flip the switch is who maybe I want it this way maybe I want it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► and I haven't even used the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► And so the idea that most people just they go to You Tube and they never change any of the settings is sort of foreign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/473">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► And for many. The people who are really into You Tube the power users that is also kind of foreign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/479">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► But if something something is the default You just have to assume that that is what everybody uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/484">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► and the people who don't use the defaults are vanishingly small percentage of the population so even if there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► solution on You Tube it is functionally irrelevant. So that was my only other piece of follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/495">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► You will be surprised to hear that I'm more of a default kind of guy I am not surprised at all by the snow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/502">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► I apologize. There's nothing to apologize for. You live a simpler and possibly better life less less frustrated life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/508">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► Perhaps there was one more there was one more thing I wanted to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► and this I don't know where this fits into the show but I just want to tell you about it because it was on my mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/520">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► I had I had a lot of spare time while I was away so sitting alone in my hotel room watching take my stuff my face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/526">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► And one of the things one of the things I did because I've heard it talked about so many times was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/533">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► when I watched the original keynote by Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► when the first i Phone was launched over there you've never seen before. I had never seen it before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/542">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► I'm just going I mean I'm assuming you've probably seen it multiple times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► when you say you're not repressed to Steve Jobs before you go to slate. Yeah that's what my life is like now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/550">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► Ice I saw it I think I just saw once I highly recommend it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► I highly recommend to anyone to watch now because watching it now is so much better over the usual stuff Assad you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/561">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► he did a very good job he was a good presenter it was it was you know it was a good watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/569">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► but the thing that's so funny is when he first takes it out and starts doing things like swiping the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/574">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► and like you know zooming in and zooming out with the pinch maneuver like no one had seen that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/581">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► and it's like he's doing magic like the crowd. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► Gosh he says watch this and he like he swipes the screen and pictures and frames and the crowd like what have you done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/590">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► This is amazing and like I had to say that now well you know even little kids do it to like T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/600">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► Screens because they just it's just an ashamed thing that will happen is really good fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► and to see something so recent but to see people react that way made it made it all worthwhile. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/611">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► Two thousand and seven I think that's right. So now I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/616">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► Look I want to tap tap tap tap tap click click click click click. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► So you think OK So you think I haven't got much more to say about it just enjoy it and I recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/624">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► and maybe you know yet if you don't want to watch The only thing I remember from that before he introduces this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/630">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► we've made we've combined you know a phone and an i Pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► and Internet communication device I think is the way he phrased it or something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/642">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► Yeah I think if I were Internet communicator or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► but the thing that I think is interesting about that little section is that the crowd you can hear them respond very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/650">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► positively to the first two things the phone and the i Pod. But the Internet communicator part is a bit more muffled. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/655">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► Where people are not super excited about that and it's partly because you don't know the magic of this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/664">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► and you don't you don't know yet how your whole life is about to be transformed by the fact of this thing is connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► to the Internet you know you haven't experienced that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► and so you are excited by the things that you do know being combined. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► But it's not it's not like it's not obvious at the time that the biggest deal is that last part it's not the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/682">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► but yeah that's my that's my only memory of the thing so you recommend it for people I will see if I can find a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/690">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► Now I haven't got a particular plane crash going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/698">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► but I've got plane crash going to follow up because a few people have sent me a little bit about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/702">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► We talked about in the previous episode about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/708">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► when a plane crashes the logo of the plane can be on display for all to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/712">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► and that can be quite embarrassing for the company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► And he talked about how that's a good thing because it makes the companies accountable for their wrongdoings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/720">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► Since then I have found out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► and I did not know this was the case which makes me feel a bit silly because I'm supposedly a plane crash enthusiastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/728">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► same's now which is a weird way to describe yourself anyway if you are you are a professional plane crash ANALYST I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/734">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► think is what we can say no I consider myself more of an amateur airplane crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► and it was there's ads on this podcast but at this stage you are a professional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/747">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► I would consider myself more of a hobbyist when it comes to plane crashes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/752">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► but what I have learned from people who are more knowledgeable than me is that it is a common practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/759">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► when a plane has a mishap for one of the first things the company does is either cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/764">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► or paint over their logo like on on like basically on the wreckage so that all the pictures and never Tivoli get taken. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/770">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► Wow And I've got I've got a link this was this was sent to us by a few people so apologies for not name checking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► but you know this was a Thai Airways plane which skidded off a runway somewhere in Bangkok it appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/786">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► and oh wow Khan There's a picture of this is a picture of the plane kind of you know on its belly looking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/798">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► looking a bit stricken and they've basically just painted it. It's been done in fact it looks fake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/805">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► It looks like it's been done in Photoshop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► They're basically just going with black paint and painted over their name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and then they go everywhere so that you know what this looks like is it is though someone has redacted the airplane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/815">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► Someone has that in a black marker and just rushed right across the side and just scribbled over the tailfin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/824">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► And as far as I'm concerned that should be illegal. This this should not be allowed to happen. Oh that is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/831">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► If if this is an illegal activity does that mean you and I get to invent a name for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/840">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► Yes Yes Listen if you want to try to go over the name for this I think aircraft redaction is quite a cool sounding term. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/848">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► Or maybe maybe brand redaction. I don't know it feels like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► Business is broader than just airplanes trying to hide your brand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/859">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► but all the rejection does have that as a you say maybe we need to come up with a different word I don't know the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/864">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► action what is the other use for action Well you know a lot like rejection is in the you know with confidential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► documents I mean they can be good reasons to reject information you will put the link in the show so everyone can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/877">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► this redacted plain. Yes I well I well nothing on especially black marks all over its name and logo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/883">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► Cheating they cheating here if you do that if you do the crime you do the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/889">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► and that means having your logo plastered all over the Internet. Yeah that is really awful to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/895">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► Well I don't I don't know what to think about it anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► I do it's all new you outraged I kind of thought you know I think it's pretty I think it's probably not right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/905">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► Anyway have a look Paypal say what you think it's Christmas time and that can mean only one thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/916">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► Buying shaving products probably for the men in your family. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► But this year instead of some vacuum pack shaving kit with branding that looks like it was designed for a Michael Bay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► movie why not try one from our show sponsor Harry's nephew Listen to this podcast before December fourteenth two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/930">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► thousand and fourteen. There's an extra special Christmas Day to be had. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► I'll tell you about that a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► but first let me tell you why we like Harry's essentially they're all about making your life easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/943">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► and Co no faffing around with the locked cases at the shops. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► No techie packaging order online get a great looking sleek product that does the job spot on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/952">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► Harry's kid myself and although I do support that designer stubble that drives the fans crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/960">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► I do shave around the edges easing Harry's blades and they're doing a fine job. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/965">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► These blades are made in Germany so they must be good like B.M.W.'s never got some Christmas offers on their website if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/970">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► you're getting quick and the one I'd like to tell you about is five dollars of winter Winston. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► All business can get in on this deal. Oh don't you go to Harry's dot com and enter the coupon code H.R.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/982">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► Holiday I don't know if that's case sensitive but the way it's written here for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/989">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► Lower case actually lower case and then a capital H. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► Starting the word holiday but it's all bunched together as one word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/997">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► That's Harry's dot com and the code H.-I holiday this offer expires on the fourteenth of December. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► You get five bucks off a nice little set here including a raise or three blades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► and a choice of shave cream which you know really good do it's win win. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► You showed Harry's that you support podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► and you sort of that someone like maybe get dad's Christmas present for another year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► or at the very least you're short a nice clean shave for that kiss under the mistletoe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► But seriously thanks to Harry's for supporting ASHO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► and getting quick for that Christmas offer if you're listening to the podcast sometime after Christmas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► Well I hope you enjoyed your Christmas with a nice smooth shave. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► Now another reason this may be a short is we have spent so much time together like that yes in fact in fact I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► well my sick of each other. I would I would never get sick if you Brady I never think of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► We even shared a bus room for a way to almost Yes we did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► Very I think I think we shared it very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► and I think there were no probably did we did I joked about using your towel to dry myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► but I didn't ever do I assume that you didn't ever do it on my way back from California we went to Alabama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► and met with Destin from Smarter Every day. Henry. From Minute Physics and from various sets S.T.M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► and I'm not I'm never going to stop doing that by the way. We met with Derek from very attached to him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► Yes check back with who might not know in advance who you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► and we obviously we we did this random acts of intelligence show which we may talk about shortly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► In the Wake Building up to that we just like to hang out in Alabama. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► Tell me about your trip over because I know you love a good I know you love talking about planes and travels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► and all the things that work you know how was your trip over do it do I love talking about that stuff I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► Usually stand by presumably yes I flew to stand by and I lucked out both times on this trip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► I got the incredibly rare first class seat which is like an amazing space pod from the future so that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1133">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► And if you ever fly first class it's almost sad when the flight is over even if it is a transatlantic flight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► I feel like I could live in that first class cabin. I want to kick you in the shins Now that's very mature of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► Yeah a lucky man this is what makes all of the stress and anxiety of flying standby occasionally worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► but that is not exceedingly rare. I never upgrade may I'm always stuck in the back with all the cattle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► But you fly you fly all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► but you have some miles programs I mean that's what I keep thinking I keep thinking they're going to come up to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► and say Mr Heron you have been chosen. You get to go into the pointy end in the space probe with C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► Gray but never happens ever never happens I think you you know it in the parable. Miles program I'm sorry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► Or maybe they say that special over my face and say we can see that it is also quite possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1191">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► So was she tired after sitting in the space cause as much as it is possible to arrive bright eyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► and bushy tailed because travel is terrible obviously and then on the way back leaving from D.C. Coming back to the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► I looked out again and got business class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► and I was able to have a little sleep on the airplane which is very nice because that I don't occasionally think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► how terrifying flying is if you're unconscious you don't it's a much shorter experience after flying first class was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► business class like a real comedown boy. Well I know I can't believe I have to fly business class. Oh disgusting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► It wasn't I often think that first class is only for people for whom money just doesn't matter at all because first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► class is it's like if you look at the prices sometimes for a sale like a London to J.F.K. or London to D.C. Trip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► First class tickets will be three times as much as a business class ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► and business class tickets already run you know five to ten thousand dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► It's like those first class seats are just crazy expensive sometimes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► But I am of the opinion that the first class seats are not that much better that the business class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► and first class on many airplanes is very comparable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► So this is only for people for whom the marginal value of dollars is just irrelevant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► The people I have billions of dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► and I will pay tens of thousands of dollars to be very slightly more comfortable because money is just completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► irrelevant to me. So even if you are like a millionaire first class doesn't necessarily make any financial sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► You have to just have a crazy amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► or have a company that doesn't mind just spending a crazy amount of money to fly first class so no business class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► or business class was not like some terrible comedown it was still great to be able to fly business class. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► I think the only way first class would be worthwhile was if I had. Scalia Hansen personally delivering me peanut M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► and M's and and back issues of N.T.S.B. Crash reports while I was up while I was singing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► Read my mind over the intercom to everyone I was on the plane. Then you would pay the thirty thousand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► I would consider a Under those circumstances and those circumstances only. That's good to know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► That's good to know I'll see if I can arrange that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► Well congratulations on your upgrade I'm sorry about saying I want to kick you in the shins I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► and I am happy for you and all that sort of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► Meanwhile my flying experience involved him saying sorry your camera bags too big you going to have to check under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► and I was unwilling to put all my camera equipment under the plan so I literally had to I had to take all my cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► and equipment out and just like hold it in my eye for the cradle like a baby I was I was cradling all these cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► and lenses and stuff it was like I was like some kind of cannon sponsored hobo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► That's a good mental image there for everybody to look around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► and see who to look at those Impreza lenses that person has. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► So I didn't have such a nice flying experience but I'm sorry what else can you tell me about travel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► I do have I do have a minor frustration which is kind of a follow up from I think the last episode I don't know one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► the recent episodes anyway. We were talking about not reading the instruction manuals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► and we both came to the conclusion that instruction manuals need to be presented in pictograph form that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► or the instructions that came with the blue Yeti with little cartoon showing you how to use the microphone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► This is about is about what I'm acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► but this is about what I will tolerate for acting after the kind of caveman proofs given proof Egyptian hieroglyphics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1430">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► We're images showing what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► and that is the thing that irritates me at airports so I guess on this trip I had four airports in London North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► and Huntsville and then back again through the bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► and I do not understand why particularly international airports don't have gigantic signs in the security area showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► you what to do with what shoes off laptops out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► One of the things that you need to do because they're not the same everywhere for everyone who is traveling through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► and I get annoyed that the security guards get annoyed that people don't just magically know what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► and they have instructions but they are usually tiny and they are very usually written instructions as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► and I just think there needs to be on the back wall as big as you can possibly make it a picture of a person with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1493">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► i Pad either in their backpack or out of their backpack. Right this is what we need to have just I have a crazy uncle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► I don't know I don't know exactly where I stand on that. I people are at their dumbest in airports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► That's why you need to help them with gigantic picture because it's like they've just like stepped off an alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► spaceship and they don't and they're like they're looking around dazed and confused. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► The stand in stupid places and they're like I don't know what they're doing so people do need help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► but I don't know I don't know why because I don't know what the big picture grams will help I don't imagine that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► helped that much because people it is too dominant thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► but also the problem is like technology changes really quickly. I'm like Do I take my laptop out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► Yes Do I take an i Pad out yesterday take a Kindle I know like and everything's you know and do I take my shoes off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► and sometimes they say yes and sometimes they say no depending on the shoes and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► It's really really complicated really really quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► and I think the kind of the subtleties involved here by the need to be removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► or don't lend themselves to pictograms just to tell everybody shoes off because it's going to be faster if everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► just take shoes off as opposed to oh me or no not me or are you sure I don't need to take the shoes off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► That is just causes huge delays any kind of uncertainty to the she's going to try to they have to go on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► side of the computer can the computer go on the same train as my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► and like this is why I think if if you can't reduce the instructions to pictograph levels you cannot expect those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► instructions to happen so if you could have a picture of a dude taking his shoes off everybody takes their shoes off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► I Pad in or out of the bag. Everybody's i Pad in or out of the bag any tablet like thing is in or out of the bag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► You just you just make that call. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► And don't don't have the oh is it a Kindle is it not a Kindle question that just that is just terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► and I'm a total pariah that now though man you should say Me I'm amazing. One saying this movement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► Yeah I do a lot of pre preparation for the security line at the airport and I look around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► and I was still I don't travel a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► But surely other people must know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► when you get to the front of the line they want you to take things out of your pockets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► Like if you ever have an airport and they look stunned they're like oh I had no idea this is going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► I've been I've been watching a hundred people in front of me do it for the last ten minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► but I didn't think I was going to have to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► So my advice always for traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► when you going through security is you need one of two things you need one either to be wearing a jacket that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► pockets that you can zip up or you need an empty front pocket on your suitcase that also has a zipper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► and so I don't know yet one of those two things while you are on line you take everything out of your pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► and just shove it into one of those two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► and usually for me that's my jacket so just everything goes in the jacket zip up the pockets and put it through the X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► Ray machine. No problem there. That's good advice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► Should have should have been the eleventh Commandment when Moses came down off the mountain because that is a good go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► It makes things it makes things so much easier. But the i Pad is the really tricky one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► The in or out one because I asked several security agents and I got different answers about no of course not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► and yes of course always i Pad in or out and is also my first time flying in America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► After the the rule change that they've just made about having electronics on during takeoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► and landing I don't know if you were aware of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► but it used to always be these that the big lie where it was like oh if anybody leaves their i Phone on this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► plane is going down right so everybody has to learn off all the electronic devices during takeoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► and landing which was manifestly wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► Right the people don't even know how to turn off their i Phones I'm just people just don't so obviously it was OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► But now we have this very confusing announcement which is it's something like please go away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► All large electronic devices and small electronic devices can be used during land landing and take off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1733">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► So where is the line here by the way like where does an i Pad Mini foal an i Pad and the Kindle and the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► Well this is so the first time this happened to me I thought well look at me I'm here with an i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► and i have the regular full i Pad Air size one and I thought Well clearly this is a large electronic device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► So I'm going to put it in my bag but I look around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► and I notice other people while we are taking off are reading on their i Pads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► and i feel like a sucker sitting there being bored with nothing to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► And so the next couple of flights I had it out but I felt like I need to be kind of sneaky about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► but the flight attendants never said anything so I thought OK I guess an i Pad counts as a small electronic device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► Clearly doesn't seem like it should to me but that that announcement is not helpful. What is large What is small. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► I don't understand they should just say laptops away tablets are fine but I think that's a lot clearer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► But I don't I don't know if you're going to be in gendering a lot of sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► and love from the listenership as you talk about your problems with which electronic devices you can have out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► First class from England to America. Well I only had my i Pad with me I didn't have anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► So while we've while we continue talking about your millionaire lifestyle I wish I see I see the next item a lot going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► on if you're not typically does not know this is this is a terrible time to bring this up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► and then I say I say that I think I see that while you were not while you were not sitting in the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► but you were living it up in the airport. Kyle I need to explain myself now. You do the crime you do the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► Flying back from health care. Brothers up now when I was going to fly right by this one. No chance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► Flying flying back from Alabama to London I had the downside of flying standby which is I left Alabama on Sunday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► but I was not able to get on the plane Sunday night to take me home and though I was I was stranded in Washington D.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► And for those of you who know Washington Dulles Airport is one of the worst airports in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► It's just the whole airport is designed to feel claustrophobic it is a single just unbelievably long tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► and I swear the ceiling must be only seven feet from the ground. It's just it's awful and they have some problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► For years now I've come in and out of Dulles. They have some problem with the heating system in this gigantic airport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► And so as you walk between sections of this endless column some of the sections it must be eighty five degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► and steamy and tropical and and then other sections. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► and so you know we're in the airport is even remotely comfortable to be Plus there's the claustrophobia feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► everywhere and they have the worst selection of shops ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► It's just it's a terrible terrible airport I just I don't understand why it hasn't been burned to the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► and they just start over because it's awful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► So I was looking forward to about seven hours in one of my least favorite airports in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► That's a long time it is a very long time because I'm not the panicky person that I am I'm not going to go do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► in D.C. Because then I have to you know strategize about when am I going to get back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► And there's always the possibility that flights change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► and things so I need to be near the airport anyway so I had a basically a full working day in the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► and I remembered a comment that you said on the last pod cast which wouldn't have crossed my mind otherwise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► So I blame this entirely on you which is that some of the lounges at the airports you can pay to get into the lounge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► and you cannot do what I was confused about is you cannot do this with the first class lounges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► Those are are for just the billionaires who care not about money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► but yet for the rest of us you can purchase a day past some of those lounges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► and I thought I have seven hours in this god awful airport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► I would never normally do this but I'm going to buy one of these passes today and so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► and so I spent most of the day in a somewhat comatose state just sitting in front of a big window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► and watching the ground crew do stuff in a relatively comfortable environment so that was a little airport lounge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► experience. But I'm going to run because I would've done it if you hadn't mentioned it last time. I would not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► A million edge exercise. Would you do it again that was a good advice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► If I had what would be my cutoff point I think I think if I had three and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► or more hours at Dulles I would buy the pass again and I think that that is the point at which it makes sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► Less than three and a half hours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► It starts becoming this is just like I'm not sure this is entirely worth it but this is really awful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► So would also depend on how tolerant a feeling of the world in general but I think that that's the cutoff point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2034">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► Anyway must must like that from Chicago got delayed by four hours just on the runway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► I know I was in inside of it and I hadn't put it on the plane. Fixing up the brakes or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► I hate it when there's a mechanical thing I start getting them about the plane you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► If you've been on a plane or they had a mechanical thing you're flying over the ocean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► I mean it's already hard not to think about the black abyss of water that awaits for you below the airplane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► It's extra difficult when you know you're on a plane that they just may be barely fixed a few hours ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► and yeah I get vertigo sometimes just even thinking about what is beneath the airplane especially when it's over water. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► That's no good because on land you have a chance unless you have a chance on water. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► Nothing but death awaits you if you crash in the middle of the ocean that just is just over over if you're lucky. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► Quickly not you know it could take days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► Sorry I didn't mean to be going on like that I was trying to so I thought I was the molded plane crash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2093">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► You're encroaching on my territory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► Is this is it this is a personal fear you are interested in the deaths of others I am interested in avoiding my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► death and on an airplane you know it is obviously it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► It is shockingly safe air travel but there is that that situation of you have no control. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► Sometimes I find my mind wandering towards the pilots and thinking. I wonder if he got a lot of sleep last night. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► Or what if the pilot just had a divorce and he wants to kill himself and he's going to take all of us down with him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► What do we do under that situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► Not very much not very much at all and so you just you know you start thinking about all the worst case scenarios. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► Plus mechanical failure plus dying of exposure in the water. Anyway I hope you're enjoying your flight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► Tim I was I was watching a Louis C.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► Special the other day on Netflix I think it was the one called hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► and he was talking about people who complain about having their flights delayed and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► How angry that makes him because they're like oh I was delayed for two hours and they get really moody and whiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► and say to them you were flying like in achieve it hundreds of miles an hour through the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► and magically got from one place to another. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► That would have taken weeks or months in the past and then you're complaining about a few hours today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► and that has made me a little bit cautious at the moment about complaining about my four hour delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► and apparent I get I get some kind of a refund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► or something from the airline if I go to a Web site that I have not yet gone to. I should do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► Yeah you can get right on that. If I kept lists I would put on a list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► That's that's exactly why they make you do a thing before the refund they know almost everybody doesn't do that thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► That's that's why you have to do a thing they don't just do that I must do that if I just came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► and like just like gave you a few twenties going to be cool with it but that's not what they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► and will be vouchers to have to fly with them again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► Yeah that's almost certainly what you're going to get and then never upgrade me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► I'm terribly kind as you and it's your mum's Alan. Oh yeah yeah we can do about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► Spoiler alert we will be able to do anything. Well I'm hoping maybe you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► My my my my I had my best man changed his like family thing so he could fly him to my wedding. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► But you can only change it once every six months or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► Who your designated person is yet is a whole bunch of limits on that and it's not going happen very well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► Your parents quite like me don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► OK OK so I visited my parents for a week before the Alabama thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► and my parents are probably listening right now because I swear no actually no actually right now but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► but listening to it listening to the recorded thing yeah I swear one of the most popular topics of conversation in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► house was how much they love Brady and how Brady is on the podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2272">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Then when a whole bunch of love for Brady and also a whole bunch of concern about Audrey and Lulu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► and they remember into how great Brady It was really it was a strange experience to be their son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► and to feel like Let's talk about Brady s'more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► I mean clearly this is clearly they have never met me or they would think very differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► but do they know us about like to ask about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► and like to say I love that little joke you made that was a really good point you made in the podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► OK So to give you give you an example of the kind of comment that I had while I was home my mother said numerous times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► that you are really likable and she wanted to know why I could not be more likable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► Mike Brady said everybody likes Brady Not everybody likes you. That's clearly not true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► She's obviously not reading the Reddit comments she's reading this I think you've read the reviews on i Tunes which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► are very pro Brady and then sometimes brew me sometimes anti me but that's OK That's OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► But anyway the point is they love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► and adore you so I may very well actually find myself without any standby tickets the next time I try flying because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► all of them have been given to you that might be the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► or that would be no I don't want to drive a wedge between you and your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► but I probably would for Stand by tickets for enough oh say you might have to cut this next bit because I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► specifically thank your dad for giving me those Harry's razor blades. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► and I know he will I know he made a big deal about it not being a big do because for those who don't know I can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► my Harry's razor blades here in the U.K. Yet because they're not delivering here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► But Gray's dad got me a secret stash and sent them with gray and they're waiting for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► and I was given to me on the condition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► I'm not thank him or email him or do anything because it sounds like he's a pretty humble guy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► I will take this moment to point out that there were no presents waiting for me when I came home. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► But here is the president as opposed to delivered to you just so my parents know how much I hate carrying extra stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► like this but this was you know no you need to bring these to Brady because we really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and the second thing is that my my family we haven't really done gifts for birthdays and holidays for a very long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► As a whole family we're not a real we heart stuff kind of family we do we don't have a whole bunch of needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► and so then trying to buy stuff for a bunch of other people who also don't want anything make for a difficult holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► when we decided you know what let's just get together instead of doing all of these things as a result of this if my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► parents do give a gift they'd feel like they don't want to burden the other person with having to now thank them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► So that's why my father was very insistent that if I give you these razor blades I need to make it clear how things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► work in this family and it is and again I have no obligation to send him a thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► and that he will probably be slightly annoyed if you send him a thank you because you were in your time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► Well I said I'm going to say Mr Gray I have no comments on those razor blades you sent whatsoever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► I'm just going to I'm going to be silent on the matter. Although if your family has this kind of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► If no one likes getting presents and gifts but these holidays exist as a sort of a gift giving time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► Why don't you start a new tradition of everyone in your family buying me a gift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► I always want to think what my million subscriber button point gift from my parents I think we need to start setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► some boundaries Brady I don't know. I present. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2514">TS</a>]
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00:42:07 ◼ ► You did write something here that Irish U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► Passport design was so that when I first saw some of the images for the redesign of the U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► Passport I thought they were a joke. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► I did not think that they were real and what they made me think of was there's a section on Reddit called America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► So it's America R slash America are you familiar with America. Vaguely yes yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2548">TS</a>]
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00:42:45 ◼ ► of for example a blink in holding the U.S. Constitution while writing a bear on the moon and shooting space Nazis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2565">TS</a>]
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00:43:02 ◼ ► particular sort of hyper patriotism that is the real thing in America I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2582">TS</a>]
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00:43:48 ◼ ► Now there are these full color pictures of all kinds of hyper patriotic American stuff and I think in fact you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2628">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► Like monuments and fields of grain and mountains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► and I don't know if space rockets all kinds of America think one of them is Neil Armstrong on the moon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► Now undoubtedly these are all you know great things that are American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► but the design of them on the passport it just it looks terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► It's just it's too much it's chod island that you need to dial it down especially for a passport because it's been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► oh well now I'm going to put you know I'm going to put stamps on this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► and I think this really is why would why would you leave America I guess you would never leave America you see you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► you just got to have it as an object of adoration or the worst one which is kind of makes me laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► when you open up the passport to the to the page that you're supposed to show the dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► when you're going into a country the top of it is this huge eagle it's this big eagle face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► and I hope every time I open up the passport I think it should make a little proud. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2695">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► Sound right like the screaming eagle sounds just like the birthday cards that open up and start playing music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► I'm honestly surprised that they didn't put a little sound effect in there for when you open up the passport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► It just it just looks unreal it's like it can't possibly be the actual design but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► and I kind of think it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► but it is also like well I guess this is America you know America not known for her subtlety. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► So I'm not a I'm not a huge fan of the redesigned passport but I got that one a few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► and then just barely like days before I was supposed to leave for this trip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► I got my Irish passport in the mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► and I think they have done exactly what the American passport has done except in a nice subtle way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► So it's the same thing where on the passport stamp pages there are Irish designs seen from Irish history or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2751">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► but they know how to do it because it's sort of two tone green where the pages are light green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► and then the designs are a slightly darker green maybe with a little blue tip to as an accent color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► but it looks like something that you could put a stamp on and then the stamp would be clearly visible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► It doesn't look like the pages are supposed to be the thing like it does in the American passport so I really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► is like a fraud prevention thing isn't it these pages and designs and says there is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► It's not it's there is a method to the madness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2790">TS</a>]
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00:47:03 ◼ ► was going to be so anyway the U.S. Transports Irish passports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2823">TS</a>]
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00:47:13 ◼ ► been through today involving passports. Oh yeah it was this is for you have been traveling for like five weeks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► You're back in the U.K. For what four days is that right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► Yes some short amount of time and then you are going straight to India is that right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► Well well I'm supposed today this is now in some doubt because basically I require a visa to go to India [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2851">TS</a>]
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00:47:43 ◼ ► To apply for your visa so I could've done this in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► and I don't know if you have much experience with Indian bureaucracy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► You know how hot India is I'm never going to India. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► I love the people of India and I'm very thankful to any of them who watch my videos or listen to this podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2874">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► Your bureaucracy is not one of my favorite things I have been a few times for it always causes problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► and that has caused me tremendous problems today to the point where I doubt I will get my visa in time for the flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/2888">TS</a>]
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00:50:17 ◼ ► need you to fill out a declaration saying what cameras you going to take to the country. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3017">TS</a>]
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00:50:26 ◼ ► and say one hundred and three microphones and and in the end I gave them all these pieces of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► and then they were like OK this will take three to four working days to process. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3032">TS</a>]
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00:50:41 ◼ ► Can I can I pay you and extortionate amount of money to have you do it so you know and I will not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► That's a good note if you are applying for a business visa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► You could you could do the same day service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► but you have to apply for a journalist visa because you will be filming something while you are there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► There's no flexibility anywhere there's no and India is just so it's like the Indian bureaucracy in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► Reflects India itself it's just huge and unwieldy and inflexible and and in the end I just walked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► and said Well I'll try and post some strings which I've been trying to do today but. It's not going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3075">TS</a>]
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00:51:28 ◼ ► know what's going to happen but it was just I think it was Indian bureaucracy is letting a few people down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► Yeah and it's like and it's this weird mix of super low tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3094">TS</a>]
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00:51:46 ◼ ► and they're going through some transition at the moment and I know I've talked about it enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► It was it was a bad experience and it's always a bad experience and I love the people of India [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► and you have a nice country. You're very good at cricket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► You are really bad at processing visas and make it very difficult to come and visit your country. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► I'm sorry to hear that you won't be able to continue your crazy travel extravaganza. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► Well I don't know what's going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► Am I going to get the visa on Monday or Tuesday and go later and missed some of this conference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3134">TS</a>]
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00:53:54 ◼ ► It was I was I was very happy to go and I feel like the five of us. Are we get along very well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3234">TS</a>]
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00:54:12 ◼ ► Do you mean we don't we do we don't mind a good argument about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► but that's what that's part of the cooking right is you can have an argument with somebody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► Derek and you don't feel like you're hurting each other's feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► or holy such Early's I don't think Derek feels that way I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► OK maybe I made him cry in his room at night or something but I feel like I had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► but love to express to Derek even if we're arguing a whole bunch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3274">TS</a>]
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00:54:51 ◼ ► We're all we're all very particular in our own way but I like I still think we just get along really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► and so that's why when Justin first arranged this it was like I I will come I will make time in my schedule for this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► No no questions asked. And even though it was absolutely exhausting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3305">TS</a>]
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00:55:24 ◼ ► It was it was glorious. It was absolutely glorious. Do you know what's most exhausting about hanging out with you guys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► Well and you are not as guilty of this as some of the others but this is just a thing you don't get away with anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► Like like if you miss spake or like mispronounce something or use a bit of hyperbole you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► or say something that is incorrect which happens all the time like you know normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► when you're talking to normal people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► and they say something like And you know like you know they don't need correcting that because they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► correcting or because they just misspoke. And they know the correct information. You just kind of let that go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► You just don't say anything. That's what no pay for doing that doesn't happen when I get out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► Well if you say something wrong or like with the with whether by mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► or just misspeaking you're gone that's not it that's not just going to slide by. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► These are these are these are these are guys who enjoy accuracy. Yes that that is definitely true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► And Destin was busy telling us a whole bunch of local stories about Huntsville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► and the various places that he was taking us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► Derek was right behind him with his i Phone fact checking the stories breaking so it's not like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► and say oh that this place is fake this place is famous for being you know the the the told us the tallest tree south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► of the Mississippi or something and then Gary could be well actually there are a whole list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► and that same kind of personality trait is also why I just absolutely adore hanging out with you guys whenever I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► the chance and they really set things off on the right foot was when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► Derek and Justin were picking me up from the airport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► I think yes I was the second person to arrive and so they picked me up from the airport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► We've done the initial oh hi how are you. And we're not in the car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► Three minutes before all of us are having a conversation about how the highway numbering system works how the numbering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► system works. I thought I love this. This doesn't happen with anybody else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► Everybody over there be like the whole big boring How was your trip how did things go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► Sort of like we started the podcast with right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► But with them it's like you can almost guarantee that any conversation is going to turn both very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► and super nerdy really fast because somebody knows something about something or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► and you just you know among the five of us you just need someone to make an off handed comment and boom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3473">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► We're in deep on how the highway numbering system works or where the editing rules for Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► or just a numerous other topics that came up and that is why I absolutely love hanging out with you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► and it was just it was just great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► but it is it is kind of mentally exhausting after a whole week especially especially for someone like me who barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► socializes who puts the socializing Leipold at the dimmest it can possibly be without being off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► and then to suddenly have six days in a row of eighteen hour days of talking to people is quite draining from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► perspective but totally worth it. I'll tell you what was totally worth it for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► Now this is this is going to make people jealous because this is what I got to say while I was away with grey I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► We were doing all manner of guns hand guns and I K forty seven's and just firing those bad boys it targets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► Yes we we had a kind of special morning with Destin where Justin was asking Destin when he arranged this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► Asked people various things that that they might want to do and so there was a whole bunch of options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► and one of those options was to learn how to fire a gun and I had never fired a gun in my whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► and I was thinking later it is quite possible that I had never touched an active firearm in my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► You know something that is outside of the museum. Touch the gun touch the gun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► It was one of these things where I thought well I've never I've never done this before and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► and very much respect how very serious destiny is about gun safety. This is no joke. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► We've had some conversations about he takes this stuff very very seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► and so I thought well I'm never going to go to a gun range just on my own and to have some dude I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► So when I looked at death and I thought that is the man I'm going to lose my gun virginity with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► and he was very gentle and it was a great experience it was good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► It's like he gave us a little lesson on each gun before we used on how it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► and then he gave us a little safety briefing in H one and then basically he said go on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► and we noted those bad boys up and bang bang bang. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► Yeah but it was so much fun saying saying you like art and I love love. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► It was fun for all of us and we all had a good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► but there was something particularly amusing to me about seeing you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► Firing specially those those those hand guns I don't see why there's anything amusing about that I don't know just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► I don't know it was just the it was just a funny thought that the thing they have to say that was most surprising about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► Again someone who just never shot guns has no experience with this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► when it started out Destin set up a bunch of little orange targets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► and I want to say that the first ones were maybe forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► or fifty meters away I don't know is that fair I have a hard time estimating just it depends on the story you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► to tell about how far away I'm going to say they were. It's the far away ones I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► Fifty four thirty forty fifty sounds about fair and Justin came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► and he said oh don't worry you're going to be hitting these little you know ten centimeter across targets in no time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► and I thought no way buddy. You know how far away that is it looks like a dot on my field of vision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► I would need to train for years to hit one of those targets and much to my surprise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► Guns are designed to make it easy to shoot things accurately and you know as long as I'm not moving around too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► and if I can line up the sights with the target I actually have a decent chance of hitting something that seems way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► far away to actually hit so that it's not it's not like Angry Birds where you put a letter through the air the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3713">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► Any straight line though honest to god that was kind of what I was thinking is like well you know it's going to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► long time and I'll need to get a feel for the guy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► Now they're designed to shoot things accurately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► and so if you if someone teaches you how to use it you can hit things relatively accurately. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► Now I'm not saying i hit every one of the targets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► but I was surprised that I hit any of the targets I was I was genuinely shocked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► and gentlemen I'm going to show you the greats not that many of the targets over that's I mean I am surprised I hit any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► of that I there's no way we could be here for weeks before I would hit one of those targets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► but you know it was quite remarkable So you know you were not in the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► and you even knock on a few of the handgun which is pretty impressive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► That was that was a fun Alabama experience without it we have it. Did you have a favorite weapon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► Well I think we've all had a favorite weapon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► So I like the P twenty two handgun and I don't remember what the name of yours was but I liked lots of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► IOW I tended to like the one I was holding at the time the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► and I was like oh I can't imagine one being more enjoyable than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► but you know the one I'm talking about it was like a six shooter one was a code something forty five special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► or something I think I think that's right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► This this is going to let you know how much we know about this test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► and will be screaming at his i Pod cast that right now I'm going to look at what it was a coat so I guess I did like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► that one but it was something special I think the forty five special but right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► That was pretty cool I was not that's not right because it's not calling out many pictures I don't know it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► revolver. Now I also like that one that will be fired. Dragon breath at the end had a real big kick to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► I like that one that was like the shotgun you mean the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► when you have the one that was kind of an A K forty seven version of a shotgun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► OK this is one of these things where it is difficult to describe but there were just so many guns. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3832">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► There was an arsenal of guns. This is the table of guns of all various sizes and shapes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► It's not like oh we can't remember the names of the two guns that we must've fired ten different kinds of guns at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► so it was it was definitely it was a very memorable experience I enjoy it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► and if you ever have to learn about gun safety I would highly recommend destine as the man to do it with he was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► serious and so very very accepting as a teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► when I would do something dumb like try to shoot with the safety on you know other just idiotic things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► He was excellent and in true stuff we did spend the hour driving to the sot talking about gun laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► and stuff in the US so so we had this big like heated debate about the pros and cons of gun laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► and where we all stood on and then basically we got out of the concert. Let's let him up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3893">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► Which is kind of funny but anyway it was a good experience and it was done very safely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► and we were very grateful for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► Yes we had a we had a we had a great dinner with these parents that not one of the wonderful people of his family that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► was so kind and nice and Terra his wife organizing everything and I was so good I feel really bad that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► and I can't imagine I could ever be that NASA host. Well this is this is exactly an eight I struggle to put into words. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► Destin's family it's almost like they are the perfect family out of a Disney movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► The whole extended family everybody is really great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► Everybody is really polite and everybody is really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► and it was it was honestly just overwhelming I always I always find it you know I come from a pretty small family I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► would find it really interesting to see other people's families and how they interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► and this was just a great big family and it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3953">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► Quite an experience and we felt really welcome the whole time and it was I was just overwhelmed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► and the one of the great discoveries from destines family was a delicacy that was prepared for us on multiple occasions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► and it was prepared for us on one occasion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► and for you explicitly I think on several other things I think that in some way it went. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► And I'm not going to describe it because you will accuse me of exaggerating do you want to describe this delicacy which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► apparently is a bit of a family tradition in Justin's family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► and I thought it was the finest does a spider ever encountered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► OK so this tray appears one of the evenings a huge tray is about the size of a dinner table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► Yeah yeah appears and it looks like it is just strawberries on the top in a little bit of strawberry sauce.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► But there is a surprise underneath which is that's like Jell-O. In Jell-O. Yeah yeah it's kind of like Jell-O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► On the top of strawberries but but very intense strawberry flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► but underneath a layer of strawberries there is a layer of whipped cream which is like OK OK so far so good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► I can understand this this you know this is this is understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► but then the bottom layer is crunchy pratfalls which doesn't seem like it fits with the other two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► And we ended up having a big argument over how to quantify the tastiness of this dessert. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► Which sounds ridiculous there out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► but this really was like an hour of our evening was arguing over on a one to ten scale how delicious is this dessert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► and you are taking a very strong nine possibly ten stance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► Nine I never said ten and I was I was going nine and then I may be downgraded to just leave myself some wiggle room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► but the thing that disappointed me was some of the others were quite gave it to not buy something and the hotel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4072">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► I'm giving it to you though I'm not they would just downing the stuff not the bow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► Hendry must have had three bottles of the stuff it was fantastic it was one of the real discoveries of my trip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► Alabama. Yeah well all of the food in Alabama was delicious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► Now as the listeners may guess I am a relatively picky eater I don't like to try new foods. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► I like things real consistent especially if it's going in my body. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► But it's I have to say Alabama it was probably one of the only places on earth I have ever been raw felt like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► One restaurant I even delegated the power of my order to Destine which is something I would never do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► Anywhere on earth. I mean to her stance but I kind of like you know what I have been here for days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► Everything is delicious. I don't have any idea what to order on this menu. You just do it dude. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► And he ordered a whole bunch of stuff like this is all delicious. Not amazing. So Alabama sums up on your food. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► I gained five pounds in a week from eating everything it was just it was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► but I could not live there because I would obviously die of some kind of obesity related disease if I spent two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► So excellent place to visit but I could not possibly live there because the food is too good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► So I mean the main reason we went was just to hang out with friends and we we did this shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► and we went into a cave and we went to a football match and we did this amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► But two of NASA and national center that was arranged. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► But another big thing we did of course was the random acts of intelligence show at The Rocket Center with six hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► people came to you know to back this up to back this up I have a couple lessons about destiny the first time we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► already mentioned on I think one of the extras to this podcast which is do not discuss potential titles for videos with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4192">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► If you have a full working day to give over to that project you will be engaged in this conversation for forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► and the other lesson I learned on this trip is do not agree to do something with Destin on the premise that it is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► to be small and destine can only do things all the way and so I went back and looked at the old emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► and it started as OK Let's let's have this trip together in Alabama and we're just going to hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► And then over time it progressed to hey maybe we should have an informal meet up in a park with some people who might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► want to meet up with us if we just say something on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► and then it was oh maybe we could do at a university like a little panel and then it kept ratcheting up in this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► when I wasn't paying close enough attention to all of a sudden I felt like I did not understand the full scale of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► thing until I was actually in Alabama and it was tomorrow like oh we have the Space and Rocket Center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4255">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► and there's going to be a Saturn five rocket above us and it's going to be six hundred people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► and there's a huge screen and there's audio visual checks to be done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► It just turned into this enormous thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► and we were like greeted by let the local authority figure it was like a big deer like the whole thing was just crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► And I kept thinking I don't remember signing up for anything. I don't exactly know how I got here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► It is somewhat nerve wracking to see how real this thing is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► If if if that had been presented to me at the start I would have said no way are you crazy I'm not going to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► But somehow Destin just kept ratcheting it up a little bit a little bit over the months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► and you never say no to any particular point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► and suddenly you find yourself on stage in front of six hundred people for the first time so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► but it was it was again it was a great event but it was surprising how much effort and was able to put into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► and how well. He was able to pull off the whole thing when it started as just like oh maybe we'll do a thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► So yes you know how like I was joking before about how if I was flying first class I'd want Scalia Hanson give me pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► I'm an EMS and all this other stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► If I was going to put on a show and I was joking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► and you said where do you want your stage to be Brady I would say All right here's the Stager one gray make this happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► I want a Saturn five rocket above my head. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► Suspended from the ceiling and then I would say I want an Apollo a real Apollo lunar landing module [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► and lunar rover to my left. I want a real Apollo return capture that brought men back from the moon to my right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► In fact put a moon rock there as well while you're at it. I want I want Apollo memorabilia in every corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► I want to parachute from an Apollo lunar module sitting above my right shoulder. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► Make that happen and you would laugh at me I would I would and that is exactly what we have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► Yeah it was like it was like a Brady fantasy stage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► The only thing that would have a more amazing was if halfway through Scalia had said appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► and said give me pin evidence Speedmaster that's what they did what they did they did bring a slave master on stage for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► me so that part was kind of it. I guess they could have brought a tray of that so jelly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► If that didn't happen during the show but I do have some Afterwards back at home. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► Yeah it really was the perfect Brady stage I have a hard time imagining that there will ever be a stage that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► So as is no this this was deliberately something we like you know didn't want to make a like a big recording all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► sudden like it was it was this was a live show it wasn't a video so I don't think we're going to you know ramble on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► ages about what we did and things like that because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► when maybe would maybe this will happen again one day although I doubt it listening to them to something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► but one thing that we should talk about because it's quite interesting is the fact that you were there you were on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► stage I mean you don't make a big deal about public appearances and plaster You're so full of your videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► and post photos of yourself like the rest of us show us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► So this so this was something a bit different here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► and I think I think a fair proportion of people who were there were quite curious about seeing you come out from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► little editing cave and they appear in public and how was that experience way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► Yeah I think it's I think it felt it felt really natural I almost feel like we couldn't talk a lot about the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► because from my perspective it went so fast it's a bit like it's bit like on one the previous pod cast I mentioned how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► I would have no memory of my wedding if it had not been recorded. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► And yeah I do have memories of the Space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► and Rocket Center talk because obviously it was not as intense as my wedding was. That's a whole other level. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► But it was it was a very very intense evening still and so it felt like the thing just went by so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► and there are little details that I remember about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► but it would almost be difficult to actually talk about the thing. In it's entirety. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► But yeah but yeah i did appear in person at this event. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► and afterwards after the actual event itself we ended up all five of us ended up signing posters and T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► Shirts and stuff for about two hours. I think it was crazy it was crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► It was absolutely crazy I was trying to estimate how many people it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► And I'm thinking OK I probably probably saw something like two or three people a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► and it was you know two hours of signing at the leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► and so that's something like what two hundred fifty people at a minimum maybe four hundred people at a maximum. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► That's a lot of people to to say hello and we had to sign i Phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4553">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► So he so that was that was never that was I did not expect that to happen. I don't expect that to happen either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► And so so one so the set up here is that after the show we went out into the kind of lobby of the Space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► and Rocket Center and it fell just mobbed there were just people everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► And I ended up being in a corner with a kind of semicircle of people around me and just pulling people out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► and signing and saying hello and shaking hands and all the stuff I got went really well that that was really nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► Do you remember the first guy who came up to me and said I want you to sign my i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► and i thought Dude I don't know if I can handle this kind of pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► and just to be clear this is with a pen with a marker on the back of the known on the X.-Ray i Phone Yeah on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► metal part on the back. When I was strong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► Yeah I don't know if I can handle this but I did say OK if you know you look me in the eye of man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► and you tell me that you're really OK with this I'm going to do it and so he did and I signed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4614">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► and I have to say signing i Phone is a very pleasurable experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► Black is nice and solid the pen moves nice and smoothly compared to signing something like a T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► Shirt signing an i Phone is a total joy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► I made these comments and a bunch of people around heard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► and then I ended up by my count signing for i Phones in total for that event because people like oh do you want to sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► and i thought well once you have one you know you've broken through that isn't this terrifying barrier a sure sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► everybody's i Phone This is a way better than signing posters I feel a bit bad about the one I signed because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► mess it up. Did you meant no phone no no I didn't mess it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► I mean obviously what happened was a lot of people sort of went around to all five of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► and just got them to sign things like a poster and stuff like that to have the collection of people who were there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► But but the first time I was asked to sign the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► and I was well aware that you know a lot of people were there not to say main fact more people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4674">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Other than to say you know the derricks in the distance because they are not big superstars in the C.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► Peak season this year at any any way that you make. OK that's all humility so close to military folks humility. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► Let me get back to my humble brag. So the the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► So this guy pose he's fine and says We saw my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and I think I was the first person I asked to do it because you obviously go up a whole bunch of others after you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► your comment but this was not the first one not sane and and it was it was unsigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► and I was like I said like he said I said Are you serious you missed on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► and his so I was like oh OK yeah sure whereabouts and he sort of pointed vaguely to an area so I like I signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► and I signed it really big in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► and it never occurred to me that he was going to take the phone to be signed by the rest of you which of course that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► should have occurred to me why would you just want me to sign it so later on when a picture was posted to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► or something of the phone signed by everyone there is kind of my signature in the middle and like this C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► Grey and Derek investor no like you guys are all alike on the edges on the writing and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► and I hope to the best spots for you I had John Hancock of that phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► Exactly I had I hope I hope you came to me first because he wanted me most because because I was a bit of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► But I'll tell you what those few hours that obviously it was very self-selecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► and these people had come because they wanted to say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► but it did give you a taste for a couple of hours of what it must be like to be like like a well known person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► and it made me realize what I loved I loved talking to all these people and doing this but I also like that after two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► Yeah and I can't imagine what it must be like to be like Brad Pitt or someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► and just everywhere you go is the default. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► Yes yes this is this is a topic you know very well I want to talk about more in detail at some point but yes I would. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► I will. It reaffirmed this that you know people think being famous is awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► Has I guess it can be awesome for an afternoon if your whole life was like this. It's a nightmare. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► It would it would just be terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► and so yes it was it was really great that there was a group of people who wanted to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► and that we could legitimately spend some time with those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► and even after that even after the two hours of signing We then went there was like an after after show at the Marriott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► where people were just having drinks and so we went over there and just hung out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► and it was really great to be able to kind of go around to some tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► and just just have some chill conversations with people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► and I thought that was also a really really nice experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► but I highly value in my normal life being able to just go somewhere and people don't know me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► So yes like this is great under limited circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► but it would not it would not be great in the in your life in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► but I did not know the reason why I want to shut you down before about people people you know just not coming to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► you which was my experience was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► Almost everybody who came in the very first thing that they mentioned was the pod cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► and how they listened to the two of us and they really liked it and I found that very notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► and very interesting that there was really strong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► Hello Internet listener presence at the random acts of ant and I was just I thought that was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► and that lots of people saying how much they like the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► and yeah it was that was that was a time I felt like oh this is this is really nice I'm glad people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► and good people want it so I would have preferred it that said like I don't to hear that that C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► Great Joker is but I think I'm above the parody video is just awesome and it was it was it was fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► You obviously posed for loads of selfies and stuff like that. Yeah yeah which was and you know this is obviously these. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4910">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► So I'm going to just you know find their way around the places people share things like people you're cool with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► you've got no problem with you know because you do value your privacy but you've just sort of said oh well there we go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► Well so the thing the thing about this is as you might imagine I have thought about this kind of decision for a while. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► And yeah I was someone asked during the event if I was OK with pictures and I said Yeah you know obviously it's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► So yeah if you go on Twitter now you can search for pictures of what I look like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► I still recommend that you don't like I wrote that article about the faceless voices laying out my reasons for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4948">TS</a>]
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01:22:39 ◼ ► or audiobook narrators I listen to I prefer to not know what they look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUPPHPs/4959">TS</a>]
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