00:00:05 ◼ ► Let us start the show properly now we've dealt with more technical problems which is always the worst way to stop what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► Yes the trend though is super exciting for people listening to us to hear about our technical problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/13">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► Last time we mentioned patriotic as a way for people to support us we recorded quite possibly the worst advertisement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/17">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► ever recorded in podcast history. Yes that is that is entirely possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► We did it on the spot recording of an advertisement which sounded like a good idea in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/27">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► but maybe in practice turned out terribly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► But in spite of our atrocious advertisement we have many people to thank for supporting us on the picture so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/37">TS</a>]
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00:00:49 ◼ ► And at this point our first list of peach on supporters should be at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/49">TS</a>]
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00:01:13 ◼ ► and it looks like the names of you can go to what we're recording this ahead of time so right now I have actually done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/73">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► nothing at all. Where it was a very have to pretend great right because we'll be listening to this in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/79">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► Are we looking at the page now of gray and it looks fantastic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► Yes that was that was super committee Brady So yes that will be up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/89">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► and again just want to thank the people who were supporting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► but people be listening to us on Christmas morning possibly if they are incredibly dedicated fans because this is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/98">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► Can you put podcasts up on Christmas morning like to the Apple elves work on Christmas Day to approve pod casts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/106">TS</a>]
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00:01:57 ◼ ► Yes exactly right. Fingers. Trust This is our Christmas show. Perhaps it isn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/117">TS</a>]
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00:02:11 ◼ ► In fact even if I didn't listen to it I probably have a clue that I met later because that was the name of the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/131">TS</a>]
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00:02:23 ◼ ► and I sat with him and oh lovely. Yes I did not tell the whole story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/143">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► I held something back because I want to talk about it with you and I have since talked about it with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/148">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► and I want to talk about it with a few other people and I'm now in a position to tell the whole story. Please do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/154">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► Because David Prowse was there in support of the zoo's charitable endeavors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/159">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► and his contribution was he was donating an opportunity to watch the original Star Wars movie with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/164">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► and twenty of your friends had a sort of V.I.P. Screening held at the zoo and then have a Q. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/172">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► and A with him afterwards and just hang out. So what style was with The Fighter and then hang out with him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/177">TS</a>]
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00:03:22 ◼ ► and I thought this is I'm going to go for this is your moment this is my moment I've always wanted to be like that cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► guy that just subtly puts his hand up for the auction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► and let you know just does the know odd look from the auctioneer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► and it's like you know I feel like you feel like you're pretty important right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► So that's what I did and I won the auction. Oh yeah. I won the auction so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/218">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► So I've got this which is kind of funny in a way because our same style was a million times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/226">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► and I spent all night with David press say and I asked him anything I wanted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► Anyway I don't think I don't think that auction was aimed. People who've never seen Star Wars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► No I think that option was aimed at people who've seen it multiple times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► But because I've sat next to David present his wife I kind of you know the novelty of getting to spend a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► with him maybe should never be able to me so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► but I did enjoy his company so much that that actually enhanced the prop the prize in my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/253">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► but I did I did I did on with an agenda. If I won and now that I have won it was time to deliver on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/258">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► and I've discussed it with a few other important people including David press him self so I'm in a position to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/267">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► partially reveal the plan and that plan is we going to make available a selection of seats at the screening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/272">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► and you were going to come along. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/281">TS</a>]
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00:04:47 ◼ ► and so we're going to say it's a chance for hello internet listeners who want to come and watch Star Wars with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/287">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► and I and with Darth Vader himself come and hang out with us when we make these tickets or positions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/292">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► or seats available. However we do that. I don't know I don't know how we're going to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/300">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► Yes yes we have not we have not figured out a lot of details yet we don't know yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► But whatever whatever we do however we raise any money from this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/309">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► This isn't to go towards the hello internet private jet this is all the money from this is for South African penguins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/313">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► I've spoken to the people of Bristol and they will also organize for us all to have a tour of the and look around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/321">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► and talk about some of the key animals especially the penguins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► This whole charity thing is raising money for South African penguins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► There's problems with South African penguins I think basically I don't know why this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/338">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► but it seems like the parents keep leaving their chicks to go foraging for food and when they don't come back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/343">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► And there's always problems with these penguin chicks in the past two days got this big program where they sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/348">TS</a>]
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00:06:08 ◼ ► when we have decided the details we are going to first give that information to the patriotic supporters of the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/368">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► Yes we're not now we're not saying that it's going to be limited to patron supporters that is not the way it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/377">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► work. We're just going to give them a head start on getting these tickets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/382">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► However we decide that that's that's going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► Yeah I mean I guess I figure they're probably the biggest superfans anyway so there are people who might think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/389">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► coming all the way to Bristol to watch Star Wars with us is a worthwhile endeavor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► Yeah well I don't I was figuring maybe we put some of them on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/399">TS</a>]
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00:06:53 ◼ ► Your best chance of getting a ticket and right away it's going to be being on the on the patron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/413">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► but that does not mean that that will be the only way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► but that's why I want to emphasize that the ticket money the ticket the ticket sale themselves will be going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/422">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► penguins. And who doesn't like penguins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► Monsters Brady That's who doesn't like penguins I like penguins on the Penguins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/429">TS</a>]
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00:07:28 ◼ ► point. We will happen to be there but Darth Vader will be there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► Yeah so I'm not sure if you bring along a Darth Vader picture or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/452">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► David will sign it for you because he signs he's pretty used to Santa Fe to pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/457">TS</a>]
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00:07:50 ◼ ► along a piece of plane wreckage and also that for you if you want to verify that I was someone who wrote me this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/470">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► and that of the i'd have police I have police on anything or tell us on the tape. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► No you did not tell me so I didn't see all of them in India. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► The chemistry hands brought along these test tubes for us to sign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► That sounds difficult to sign but it was it was difficult isn't it. Knows just yet to shoot the hardest really people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/486">TS</a>]
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00:08:38 ◼ ► I bet some people listen on Christmas day. Would you listen to a podcast on Christmas day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/518">TS</a>]
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00:10:13 ◼ ► but I'm the same as you actually feel for various family reasons Christmas Eve was always more exciting because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/613">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► when we saw you know the auntie and uncle who were the ones who we did fun presence within the fun cousins and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/618">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► Then Christmas Day We did other things and so Christmas Eve was just it was more exciting for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/625">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► But that aside since moving to the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/631">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► From Australia from the Southern Hemisphere like I cannot get used to the fact for example that people just watch so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/634">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► much T.V. On Christmas Day in the U.K. Oh yeah like that's like the thing to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/643">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► There's all these special shows on and people will ate and then watch the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/648">TS</a>]
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00:11:03 ◼ ► premiere on Christmas Day and things like that and in Australia where it's sunny and you just go outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/663">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► and go to the beach and play cricket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► I think if I turned the television on in Australia on Christmas Day Well I would've got in trouble as a kid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/671">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► But also people would just think you know like some kind of weirdo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► I'm remembering now that when when I was younger my family for two out of the three Lord of the Rings movies we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/680">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► and saw them on Christmas Day at the cinema. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► Yeah they came out on I think if I don't know if it was on Christmas Day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► or just slightly before Christmas Day But so yes there are a couple of watching Lord of the Rings on Christmas Day is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/695">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► in my family the other thing that's crazy to me that it seems so many people in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/701">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► Is seeing their friends on Christmas Day like go to the pub or go out with their friends in the evening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/707">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► But to me that Christmas day was like Christmas Day I was the one day of the year practically that I was banned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/713">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► My my for my next door neighbors who I want to play cricket with you know every day of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► or you know go swimming with all my might so my school friends was like this was the one day of the year we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/723">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► kind of told no you're not allowed to play cricket with Stephen and Adam today right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► They're going to see their family. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► You're going to see your family this is a family day right this is the one day of the year you can give your friends a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/735">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► rest and put your family first. But here in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► Almost everyone I know like they do the family stuff during the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► and then it's off to the pub with friends that you have just made it funny living in living in London. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/747">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► I've known many more immigrants I think than English people over my time so I don't necessarily have a good sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/752">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► what it is that English people do on their their Christmas day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► OK now I'm a bit more I'm a bit more ingratiated into England than I So you are sure you are saying you've gone native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/763">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► I have gone a bit native look what we're talking about Christmas let me change the order of things a bit because things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/770">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► are getting Christmas Day And you know you promised to send me a picture of your Christmas tree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/776">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► You have not done this. Yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry I have no one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► Are you ashamed now I just honestly I just it hasn't crossed my mind I can message how life in the other room right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/786">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► If you want to picture the Christmas tree yeah I want to I want to nail during the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/791">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► You want right now I want to chew on it during the show. Let me message to Mrs Skinner on tour I want to see this tray. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/795">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► Well I was going to I was going to give you a hard time about that unless I tell you we we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/803">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► when shows outrĂ© we like something we've done a couple times now going and cutting it down ourselves like choosing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/808">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and then like executing in the forest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► Have you have you ever done when I was growing up we always had a plastic tree we never had a real tree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/818">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► Yeah and with my wife now she is the one who introduced the notion of real trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/824">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► and one last time something he would never occur to me to do yet and we have not done the go into the forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/830">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► and pick out a tree just like they do in the movies thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► It mainly because we're living in central London and so it is a little bit difficult to get out into the forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/840">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► and so we always end up just going to a couple places that are nearby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/846">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► and picking up some pre-selected trees prio executed three executed trees yes that is that is what we do well next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/850">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► you come out with us and you can come and you can come and help us choose a trade because it's so much fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/858">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► Sounds like a long day that sounds like a long day. It's my work it's really easy and really fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/864">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► It's really good but it's like a farm you know it's really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► and the one we went to the sea was really good because they put ribbons on the ones you're allowed to cut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/871">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► and because you know some of them they're growing for future years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► and at this particular place every single one of them has like a name unlike they've given fun names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/882">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► and the name colors your choice in some ways as well as what the train looks like wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/888">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► A lot a lot. They've given the trees individual names. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► Yes Like this tree is called Tom Yes Well the one we ended up with was called Spencer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/896">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► So we chose Spencer but there are all sorts of code names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► and some of the last thing someone has to name all the trees how I'm wondering a forest full of trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/904">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► or it's not like it's not like a return of the Jed I taught for a set to stretches forever it's a bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/912">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► and I marvel at all the names in Ikea I think it is exhausting coming up with names for all of these products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/920">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► I'm a distant visioning like how many items are there in Ikea versus how many trees in this forest that you're going to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► Yeah it would always say he would have had to come up with a few hundred names at least. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/930">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► Yeah I often think that about people that run dog sanctuary says well we're not going to give all the dogs names. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/934">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► I find they tend to recycle their names a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► Yeah they must recycle the names they must recycle I've got the picture of the Christmas tree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► So what do you think you're OK with this I have to say a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/946">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► Yeah you've done well it's it's it's quite close to a style as well so I can't even begin to tell you how to set it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/953">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► But I am without a life on this Christmas tree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► Now I like a lot so it's got a nice balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► but also a touch of randomness I think you've done well you do need it you do need a touch of randomness if it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/963">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► Yeah but for some reason we have I don't know what this is I don't know what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► but we bought some Christmas tree lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► and I'm going to get some Christmas tree lights that are in a string so I can arrange it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/976">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► Have you gotten Christmas tree like they come in in a loop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► Yes You know we have got one that's a string and one that's a loop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► Yeah so some of our strands are these loops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/988">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► and I don't under I don't understand the reasoning for this I don't understand why this is the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/993">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► and so I think I think we have two strands that are loops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► and two strands that are single strands like you know single strand in the way sanity deems it should be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► Yeah and as a result of this I have had a heck of a time trying to balance the lights to my satisfaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► and I find myself sitting on the couch looking at the tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► and then just getting irritated because it doesn't look right so I go over and try to adjust it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► But because of this the loop loop strand disparity I am not able to achieve satisfaction so I am unhappy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► distribution I mean in this light you send me it looks like the lots at the top of the tree are actually switched on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► can't say them for I think this is because the lighting in the room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► I think I can't completely judge on how well you've done the lots but from what I can say I find it quite pleasing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► Yeah I did notice this is the top of the picture cut off or is there no star on the tray nothing on top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► We have had some star difficulties this year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► Do you want to share with the group that don't need to share every tiny detail of my fuzziness about everything is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► We can just leave it that that star acquisition was not satisfactory This year however you sent me a picture of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► Christmas tree yet I again I'm going to say this and you can take it the wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► but I take it the way I mean it pretty. Your decorations your stay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Our is never something that I would pick for myself but I think it looks absolutely great on your tree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► Would you care to describe the star on your tree and your tree decorations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► Well I find it weird that you call a star because clearly it's like an angel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► Yeah the thing at the top of the tree no matter what it is is a star saying no no no no no this is your getting into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► Whatever it is at the top of the tree it's a star nine nine and I saw I saw a Christmas tree decoration. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► I think on Reddit presumably on Reddit which was somebody had a King Kong at the top of his Christmas tree that had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► airplane in one hand and I forget the actor's name in the other hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► So even if there is a King Kong at the top of your tree it is still a star I refer to that as a star. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► Now am I wrong about this. Well I have I have childhood issues here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► My my mom was the chief decorator of a Christmas tree and I was very she's a very particular woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1133">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► and like sings how she likes them. So we were we were given only a minimal role in A Christmas tree decorating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► We were allowed to put a few decorations on the strategic places and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► If that wood around the back maybe we got away with it but otherwise they might end up getting moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► and my mom had a real preference for a stop stop at the top of the tree you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► Appointee stuck in a Star of death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► and sorry she completely so I managed to just so scarred by this I can't even tell the story she had a very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► preference for an angel as the star. OK she liked putting an angel up there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► OK I always wanted a star as a starter because I thought that's the more cliched one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► and that's what's on Christmas cards and that's the cliche right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► And I guess when you're young you just want to fit in and you want everything to be the same as everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► and you want your Christmas tree to be the same as everything else and so I was a was and why can't we have style. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1193">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► We always have to have an angel because I thought you know an angel was a big square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► and you know I don't know I just didn't like a lot of the stuff. So anyway that my mom was one of the angel of light. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► Later on I think maybe she relented one or two years but generally not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► and I have my own Christmas tree my my wife's away better decorated the manger again she takes the lead role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► and I'm pretty much on the bench and I get to put the decoration on and maybe get sidelined if I'm not doing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► but the one thing I put my foot down on was I'm a grown up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► I'm having a stylist out the top of my trade none of this stuff that was like That was May You know I've got my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► house now I can have it on top of the trade so every year so far we have had a traditional style. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► This year my wife said Actually I prefer to enjoy and I deny I was Paul I'd probably done something wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► or I was in the doghouse so I wasn't in a position to anyone sorry to say she said we have an angel whether you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► So I'm yet again stuck with an angel on top of the tray when what I really really want is a stop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► So when you saw that Angel is top of the tray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► and said Oh I like you stop your cut me date because I want to step up I haven't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► and I'm very sorry very sorry that I'm sorry about that story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► I you know I and I understand I understand you know that when that when you're grown up you want things your own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► and sometimes you don't get it. And it's sad. Let's talk about Star Wars. Now that's not to say something off the bat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► OK A lot of people seem to think that I forced you into doing something you didn't want to do by watching that trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► would you DID YOU DON'T YOU HAVE NEVER in your life done anything you don't want to do as far as I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► and you sure as heck I've never done anything. I've asked you to do that you didn't want to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► So any suggestion or a warning that you want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► You want to watch it you just like me when I come to you to make me buy tech technology products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► You just what you wanted me to push you into it. I disagree with your assessment here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► First of all it is correct that in our relationship you do sometimes as I refer to it ask me to bully you into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► particular situations I think that that is that is fair to say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► But with the Star Wars trailer I can honestly say that did we not have a pod cast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► There is no way you could have ever talked me into watching that trailer you know you didn't want to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► I did it for the people Brady but I did it for not for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► I did it for our amazing audience when other people are upset. Now the people are upset. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► Why are people I haven't seen anybody if that were you talking about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► I've seen lots of people saying gray shouldn't of done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► and Brady shouldn't of made him do I feel like I feel bad now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► but I don't believe I just you know I just think you want to watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► You don't do things you don't want to do if it wasn't for the podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► I never would have watched it but I watched it and how many times have you watched this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► and I watched it a bunch that was quite a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► and gone through it a little bit slower like you know what's this of those Pod races in the back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► and the other thing which is of course the joy is that I can then listen to other people talk about the Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► trailer so there was a there was a good episode of the incomparable which is a podcast I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► and I both listen to and I don't know how However you have it is like the trailer is a minute and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► and they talked about the trailer for an hour and a half or so I forget what the exact numbers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► You're like you're like a you like an alcoholic falling off the wagon let you watch that one in your life now is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► Yeah yeah there was it was a time that was incomparable thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► and then of course one of the favorites that we've mentioned a bunch of times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► The red letter media guys did uplink it review the Star Wars trailers I had to watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► and I'm not saying that so that it did. The thing that I did not want to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Did open up to me a whole world of media that I could not have consumed otherwise so that what I'm not going to lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► that was enjoyable but the question of what would I have done it on my own would you have been able to talk me into it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► If the circumstance were different now you would not have been able to talk me into that I want to know what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► So a lot of people sent us a an image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► or a little video which was the final shot of the Millennium Falcon stabilized yet oh I don't know people never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► The most hilarious stuff I can possibly point to you is there is an entire sub Reddit dedicated to Star Trek stabilized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► Just to describe for people who might not be aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► when you've seen any episode of Star Trek you know there's always oh the Shield had been hit Captain where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► we're down to forty percent and the camera always shakes and everybody flies about the room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► I think these kinds of shots you can feed that stuff into a computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► Which will then figure out how the camera moved to basically undo that so you can look at the scene as though through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► camera that had just remained stable and some of the Star Trek stabilized stuff is just hilarious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► You cannot imagine how terrible the actors look when they are trying to fling themselves away from control panels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► or fall on the floor because obviously the room that they're in isn't moving at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and so that's that is the stabilized stuff so you take out the camera movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► and it is Star Trek stabilizes it is hilarious and and very enjoyable. So somebody did that for the Millennium Falcon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► And what it revealed was that the Millennium Falcon did not perform the maneuvers that we sort of thought it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► It just basically does a dive and pulls up so the maneuver is much more simple than it looks when you watch the film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► Yeah we were kind of thinking of it that the Millennium Falcon was spinning around and narrowly avoiding stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► and I think you called it was like a hornet. Yeah we thought it was too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Nimble and agile and a lot of people said no it was not a job it was just the camera that made it look at jobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► Yes So people were sending us this stabilized thing in response. So what are your thoughts on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► Well first of all my thoughts on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► when stabilized is still skimming pretty close to the sand for a big clunky I still think it's an fast agile maneuver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► that it shouldn't be doing that close to the ground and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► and I said in the last part costs that I know it went through the asteroid belt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► and everyone has said it led you know it led the attack on the Death Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► and things like that I am aware of that looking like you don't know that it's not like I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► but I still want to think of a bit of an old clunker and you think of all your best memories of the Millennium Falcon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► Most of them involve being broken on the ground or things going wrong or for worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► Rob Rob Rob That is my favorite memory of the Millennium Falcon. So let's say let's say that first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► Secondly if it takes a whole bunch of geeks on the Internet to apply this stabilization to show that it's not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► something amazing that's not an indictment on you and me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► That's an indictment on the filmmaker because the filmmakers job is to convey an impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► and the impression was that that ship was doing something awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► and if you can unpick it to show that it wasn't well so what we're not going to be sitting there watching the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► when it comes out with stabilisation goggles on so that we can know what's really going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► Yes we can only we can only eat what was served with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► and I So I think this whole look you know it was the camera that doesn't cut it. Yeah I'm with you one hundred percent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► And I kept thinking of this is this is cheating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► That's what this is and there's a phrase it comes from Futurama and so one is you are technically correct. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► The best kind of correct. And so to me this is Jade. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► It's getting to be technically correct about the moves that the Millennium Falcon can do while visually conveying an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► I give the stabilization thing a kind of thumbs down in that if people have not seen it the special George Lucas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► edition of the trailer is hilarious is it is it is so good. What I love about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► You can tell it is made by someone who the Special Editions really got under their skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► and we were talking about a little bit on insta messenger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► but there is a part that I wanted to highlight to you which was the rocks over the droid that block your field of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► and those are not just any old rocks. Do you know where those are from in the Special Editions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► Now I can't think I actually can't think of any watch that special edition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► Try that one so I'll probably watch that special edition trailer half as many times I've watched it actually I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► is just hilarious. The final shot with the Millennium Falcon and a million typewriters gets me every time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► If so in the very first Star Wars movies when Luke Skywalker gets knocked out by the same people. R.T.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► Two goes and hides in some rocks in the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► and in this special edition version for just completely not understandable reasons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► When they penned to R two D two they added in a whole bunch of rocks on the screen so that he's really hidden behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► these rocks that weren't there in the original movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► and this is a perfect example of messing with something for no reason. Who needed those rocks there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► Nobody And when you place them there you also introduce a problem of how how the heck did R.T.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► and it's just a just a great example of just messing with things for absolutely no to no benefit at all just to messing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► with stuff so whoever put those rocks in front of the Droid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► That was a brilliant brilliant move and I feel like really stick the knife in directly to George Lucas. So come on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Going to hurry up with this podcast might you know you tell me about this plan get review I want to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► Should've told me about I'm sorry I'm sorry it's long to we can't stop and just you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► and I watch only where we get stuck on the follow up so we gotta keep cracking on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► Well I just wanted to point something out a video a number fall video of mine made quite a while ago that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► mentioned on the podcast before because you've said it was kind of an addition for the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► and the notes to me it was it was your audition you did not know if it wasn't the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► or you to Peter one of my videos you told me a few times before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► but this was a this was a longer one I helped I helped you out under very different circumstances. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► Yeah so anyway the one we're talking about just passed last week passed a million views so I thought it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► chance to bring it up just to get under your skin again because yes the video is titled numbers confuse Americans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► Yeah and you hate that typo along with many other people to be fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► Listen to think OK that people if people want to video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► The whole video is it's about two American ex-pats one of which is myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► and we are talking about differences grays not in the video by the way before you all get excited it's an animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► Grace I don't think you going to go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► and see his face who knows what who did you have do the animations that I was picking up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► Yes that's right of course of course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► Yep you did a good job in those animation so you have to like the vest yet so the video is too American ex-pats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► and we're talking about things in Britain with the number system that confuses us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► and they're just some common thing that that if you if you ever live abroad you run into this kind of stuff like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► phone numbers don't have the same rhythm that you're expecting from your home country this kind of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► But you titled the video numbers confuse American which is pretty much what you said about five seconds ago except with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► a whole lot of Qual of us attached. OK but the correct title of this video should be British numbers confuse Americans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1911">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► I don't implies that all Americans are baffled by the notion of numbering thing that Amber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► or how do we we can group these things together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► and can we assign them a number I don't know it's so confusing right that that's what your title then why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► have would you have allowed if I'd called it numbers that confuse Americans. Godhead is better but just barely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► Listen the thing that really irritates me about this is that I should go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► and find our our methods like you agreed at some points to change the title and then you just never did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► That is true but it was I was going to I was going to change the title. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► If there is a reason I haven't you've gone back on your word as far as I'm concerned that's the only thing that yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► accept that there is a reason I haven't changed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► and there is so many people have commented on that if I now changed it would it would make all the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► conversational comments redundant you were just looking for an excuse not to change it not knowing what to say I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► could change it right now it would mean nothing to me. OK if it means it means a lot on the thing to you change it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► Would it mean a lot to you I would really like you to change the title. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► Really I would I think that that that title is is inaccurate. All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► Inaccurate misleading a lot mildly slanderous towards an entire nation of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► Artistic I just think it's like you know headlines to sometimes leave out details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► and I know I know we're verging on there's a difference tween click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► and tempting headlines I want to know is there a difference maybe there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► but I just think you can put too many boring words in a title and it just becomes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► and you just got to pick a few words. Numbers confusion Americans and go What's this about and that is what it's about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► It is about times when numbers confuse American I think it's times that confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► when they're you know talking to non American people but it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► A bit like you know if if if I had a video of American people tripping over like falling over you know steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► and banging their heads I would call that Americans trip over I wouldn't you know that doesn't mean every American is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► tripping over every minute of the day everywhere they go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► That just means that in this video I'm showing you cases when Americans have tripped over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► Just like in this particular video I'm showing you cases where numbers confuse Americans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► Now to me this title is over the line all the way all of the relevant information is missing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► Your tripping analogy does not make and any any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► and in this case I was trying to put up my internet is being particularly slow for some reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► I'm trying to think about what my most why most misleading headline might be and that might be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► This video will hurt headlines. Yeah definitely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► But I would argue that that headline is necessary for what that video is trying to accomplish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► I will let people watch it if they have not seen it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► I'll put a link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► and you decide people on the Read it if you think that that title is over the line well I don't think it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► Unlike Gray's title which I would say the writers will obviously agree is way over the line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► Well that's because like many of them are Americans but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► If I think the part of the part of the fun of the video is kind of the you know the parochial with the divisiveness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► between the two sides of the Atlantic so why not have a headline that plays to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► and you know stare the hornet's nest because it's a bit like I mean you're very scathing you know in a nice way about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► certain aspects of the way the British use numbers like the numbering system on strings and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► and that's just kind of the game of that video it's kind of a friendly banter dare I use the word banter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► and I some people really hate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► but if you say so it sounds like I have to change it now I mean I fall in the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► but how how much you value your word I guess as well. They're not going to change it. How much you value your word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2157">TS</a>]
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00:38:41 ◼ ► You were asking for my advice and I was trying to do the best that I could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► Can't decide whether I followed my heart or my head I don't know which I followed but I followed one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► and it resulted in me getting an i Phone six. OK i Phone six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► Yep and how do you feel about it after about a week or so now week or two of us I think I made a mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► Oh really how very interesting now. Yeah a mistake in which direction. Too big too small too big too big you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► OK OK I listened it was funny because just in the buildup during the during the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► when I was thinking about it I listened to quite a good episode of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► Pretty sure it was a talk show with I don't know who John Gruber's guest was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► but they were talking about the i Phone six and they were both saying I am happy with my six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► but part of me wishes I've got a five that smaller fine and that pretty much persuaded me I was lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► and I am going to do I'm going to listen to the advice and you know take advantage of all this onslaught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► and get the five and at the last minute I talked myself out of it and you know I was considering all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► and I was making the case for all three and I got the six and the various raise. Yes and it's too big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► I can't really you know we've heard all before I can't reach the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► I never thought I would do this but I'm using the reachability trick where you double click the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► and all the icons come down lower so you can reach them. I'm using that dozens of times per day. Oh God that's awful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► I thought when I heard that that was a feature I'm like well you know I think I'd rather she me the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► or you know use two hands than do that but I have my way I like holding a phone and I don't want to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► and the reachability is something I'm using I'm I'm not pleased I'm not that pleased with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► but I just you know the thing is I bought two I bought one for my wife at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and for the record let me say she's in love with the i Phone six she thinks it's the best thing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► and she was crazy that I don't like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► So in the interest of fairness she loves it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► but I would guess just based on that that this is similarly with my wife that your wife probably keeps it one in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2454">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► and two uses it one handed much less that much I can only imagine that's the case because you got small hands the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► and I say I think my problem is I couldn't bear the thought of her having a more powerful than I actually think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► when I was simply not in a competitive jealous Conaway has no idea what I'm laughing because I could understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► and I just I think if she had of knowing that she had a high spec phone the maid is what is so wrong somehow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► and as a result I've ended up with the wrong phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► OK so I have one more question for you because we're doing something that I want to take them imagining there are it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► Christmas Day There are probably several people who have received i Phone six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► and only a quarter of the calls are you using the phone with the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► So yes I have I did get the leather case lie my very. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► He's strong advice because I complained a lot about the six on one of our earlier shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► and you know this the same kinds of things and I can't remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► but at some point I decided I'm going to try it without the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► and it only makes a difference of a couple millimeters on either side and on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► but I have one hundred percent found that this is the difference that makes a difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► And it changed my phone from kind of infuriatingly just too large to barely within acceptable tolerances in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► size. I still think it's a little too big but I find it surprisingly more usable without a case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► So if there's anybody out there who has an i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► and they're they're getting driven crazy by the one handedness I really recommend trying it without the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► The case is not like it's well done. The problem the problem with the case is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► I should have a problem going caseless is that they have made this completely smooth slippery stone that that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2573">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► trying to use it as a camera is much harder to hold it there is no place to kind of to grip it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► and I am much more concerned about dropping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► and just using it around the house I find that if I if I'm not paying attention I do just drop it much more like I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► the couch so I'm not really concerned about dropping it because going to drop on the carpet or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► but I definitely outside I haven't dropped it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► but I have made this tradeoff that I think without the case it is much more usable one handed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► But still it is only a few millimeters I swear if if Apple made a phone that was just like five millimeters shorter on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► the diagonal I think I would be totally fine with it but it's just a tiny bit too big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► I'm just so brutal on my possessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► and if I don't have a case I just know I'm going to scratch it really badly at the moment I can put it in my pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► and sort of have the glass always facing away from things that might scratch it like a wallet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2634">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► And K.'s and coins and things like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► I know I don't want to I don't run a puppet regime I also think the fact that I need to take into account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► but I just I just don't take care of stuff there are a lot of hilarious videos of people putting the i Phone six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► through stress tests you have to realize that the surface of the phone is not glass is not as shareable as you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► And so there are some quite amazing like drop test there's a video of some guy who says the phone on fire it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► impervious but it is harder to damage than you think it is going to be if you drop it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► I'm not worried about dropping out. I'm not worried about shattering. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► I just don't want to have a scratch on the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► You know this is interesting because you know I'm very different this way I used to be like you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► Brady and I used to be very fussy about my devices and not having scratches on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► but you can decide not to be this person not to care if there are scratches I made this decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► and I'm telling you it's a much better life. That's one thing that I don't know the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► Has they started I had a five to four the sum recognition life changing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► Oh yeah without a doubt that is one of the best features they've ever introduced in completely changes the way you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► Yeah that makes getting into it so much quicker now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► but then makes the frustration not being able to reach the icons that much more frustrating because I think I can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► to that frustrating point so many of us are on the right I think we got away with keeping the i Phone six reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► short if this is a Christmas episode it probably is a good time to talk about the phone again so I don't know that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► last one last quick thing you know about the the back gesture on the phone. Probably not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► What's OK So we have an i thing about not having a case of before I forget is that if without the case the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► but not all but I'd say eighty percent of apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► If there's any kind of back feature like on a podcast app you want to get from the pod cast back to the main list on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► the browser you want to go to the previous page. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► If you swipe with your thumb from off the screen on the left hand side kind of across the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2753">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► And so you don't need to hit the back button all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► and that is the one place where the rounded edge of the phone is quite nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► and the case totally ruins that feel of sliding over the edge of the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► I would still say that the rounded edges are not worth it for the nice feel of that back gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► but if you are frustrated with constantly reaching towards the top just be aware that the left to right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► Swipe across the phone is back gesture and almost every single application critiquing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► It's not Thankee he's pretty kinky is not that you see I think it just is how to use your phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► So hello internet was named like was that one of the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► or the best of the favor of the something pod cast in the list of two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► and fourteen the i Tunes Apple people I don't know what I'm talking about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► So it's like you're not you're not on the specificity of a lot of these things I don't know what I'm talking about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► But yes we we have been honored and is being selected as one of the best new podcasts of twenty fourteen by Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► This means that at the top of the i Tunes store if you're in the podcast section there's a big banner for the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► and we are listed on there with a bunch of other really great podcast so that is is quite an honor to be selected for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► that. How did this happen is just some administrative mistake or I have no idea how it happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► I just discovered it accidentally. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► Do we get a gold baton or a trophy or anything I don't know if they sent trophies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► but if they do I promise that it will go to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► If we if we ever win any awards for hello internet if we win Pulitzer Prizes Nobel Peace Prizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► or any of these kinds of things if we win them you can keep them operating. That is my promise to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► You can't keep the money if it's a Nobel Prize. We split the money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► Yeah but you know there's a golden button or some kind of statue of a stylized. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2874">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► Person holding an object or whatever these things are you can have them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► and I'll be happy to let you have them all you know I'm sending my go but no way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► At the start of January I did not know that where is your you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► but I'm going I am sending it to the Mathematical Sciences Research Institute in Berkeley California. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► The spiritual home of Number Five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and they going to put it on the wall because more people say they are in a war it will bring more pleasure than in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► dusty old office. Yes I imagine not very many people see it in your office. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► I don't even say it because it's not actually in my offices in sort of a secondary office of another office for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► It's not and so it's not as if things have their own hold off for now you'd like oh no you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► but you would say you liked it. Like it you know you'd be polite about it. I might not be polite. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► Now I think you know I think I think it's your kind of dream I've never shown you that a picture of you sooner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► or later I will make it to your house now and I know you know the name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► and they are very much have you know just like a huge rush of sort of people listening to the podcast as a result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► you know I serve has been collapsing and. It's you know it's a funny thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► The the the world of pod cast analytics of knowing how many subscribers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► and how many listeners you have is much fuzzier than the You Tube world we are we are completely spoiled by You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► and I think you have also discovered that they now have a realtime feature which is incredibly addictive to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► see how videos are performing right now or if you link to things you can see if there's a spike in traffic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► You Tube spoils us with data and I find the Podcast world the data is just terrible and vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► and it's hard to know precisely how many listeners and how many subscribers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► There are that I end up just not checking it very much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► I know it I know at the moment that we tend to get between fifty and sixty thousand listens per show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► but I honestly I don't I don't check the numbers all the time because I just think I go I have no idea I mean no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► how precise this data is but that's that's I guess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► but then people will listen on You Tube as well to the you know behind the other ones are they. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► Do you think of the same people listening again I have no idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► And also the way that our limited analytics work I know that almost certainly things are being undercounted because for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► boring reasons that people don't care about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► Depending on how they listen to the show it may or may not count as a listen so that's why I just it's very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► and again we're just we're just spoiled from You Tube I love all of You Tube's data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► and it could be a little bit too addicting. Yeah so with a podcast who knows you know he knows he's listening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► It could just be a couple people who are pretending to be lots of people on the right it is the way it could be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3053">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► Well let me talk about something that's been in the news because you put a little tweet up before we came on air. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► If I can say why are you asking if there was anything people wanted to talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► And lots of people wanted us to talk about the sorry hack. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► So I said to you on a you know message or do you do you want talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► and you said something to me that I refused to believe. OK You did not know what it is or what that means to back up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► I do often tweet out that we're recording the show and to see what people want to talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► Almost every time I do this I regret it because I have the same experience which is whatever has kind of happened like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► today in the news people want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► and as we've mentioned on the show before I just I don't really follow the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► and so almost always it is a list of things that I just I have no idea what any of this stuff is going for two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► this isn't something that happened in the last twenty minutes this is like this is Bain one of the biggest news stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3113">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► Next I would say well the problem is I have also been kind of isolation mode trying to get a video out you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► even my my normal my normal connection to the outside world for the past two weeks has been really clamped down because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► I was I was rushing to hit the headlines so the reason I'm surprised like I think it's great that you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► and all I really respect and I'm jealous of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► but the reason I'm surprised in this particular case is this is a story that just takes every gray box of something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► would be interested in. Well why don't you tell me about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► I feel a bit silly telling you about it because it's a bit like it's a bit like it's such a big thing it's like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► like everyone will be listening which is which is what happens in a podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► Everyone's listening and like it's like a mix it's like explaining to someone you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► What nine eleven was or something it's like when you know it's just so famous that that's a big but maybe in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► or three weeks it'll be a forgotten story and people can come sailing before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► Before we take any steps further presumably is not actually a nine eleven style event because I would have heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► And we talk about the news so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► but I would say just in general I had this conversation people all the time that people forget how many quote important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► stories passed through their brain in a year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► That's true there's always something that's supposed to happen and it always gets forgotten. A couple weeks later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► There's never any point in the year where you don't go oh what's this or what's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► and I have had conversations with people sometimes so I can't believe that you're not following the news about whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► Yeah and sometimes it sounds really heartless depending on what the whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► but my point is always the same like almost everything will be forgotten. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► It's three months max and that is almost always the case so there's always something going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► So I may be sounding incredibly callous Now depending on whatever the Sony has because I don't I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3234">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► but it's I guess I want to just hammer home this point because as soon as you tune into this fact you can kind of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► the news in a very different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► and try to think about how many stories have have passed through your mind in the past year which all of which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► presented as incredibly important in the moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► And easily eighty percent of them don't make any difference in a month's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► or two months time they just don't matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► I mean probably it was probably also a poor choice for me to say to compare it to nine eleven in that way that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► making the comparison more in the context of I feel silly explaining something that feels famous at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► and then Oh yeah if I miss a news story I could think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► but I'm presuming that the others you meant it in terms of like the amount of coverage that it had Yeah yeah let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► and I find it hard to believe that after a couple of sentences you're not going to say oh yes I know about Oka anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3293">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► Well let's lay it on me let's find out. OK Here we go again. One's going to get nervous too I really hate surprises. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► Well I also feel I feel more nervous because I'm explaining something so that so famous at the moment that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► going to jump on me and say I've done it wrong. OK Because I know you do your best. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► Signy pictures have been making a film that's about to be released. Coding interview. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► OK it's a comedy film and the premise is I think two guys are given the opportunity to interview Kim Jong un [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► or the current leader of North Korea comes on like they given that they're given access to him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► So the CIA approach these these guys who get the impression a kind of dopey guys and that you know switched on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► and see this is an opportunity to assassinate him and then these guys go to North Korea and something in his shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► and maybe some assassination attempt takes place at Real Madrid so that was his film and it seems that the film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3352">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► It was quite the imminent film was going to upset North Korea and then Sony Pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► and Sony itself was the victim of this incredible computer security breach. They got hacked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► It's unbelievably Farrelly everything got released all the executive the miles that I've been sending to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► where they're kind of you know slagging off Hollywood stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► and saying you know what I don't like about Angelina Jolie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► and all that all that stuff got accessed all financial details about how much actors on different films got paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► compared to each other. Rough Cuts of films that haven't been released. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► Apparently a draft of the script of the next James Bond movie everything they wouldn't want to come out you can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► of got taken and then released and distributed and it's become public knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► and has gone everywhere like wildfire and the hackers have made it clear it's because of this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► This film though all the speculation was that North Korea was behind it because they have a history of hacking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► kind of hacking terrorism and so a lot of talk today do or did they get someone to do it for them and in the last day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► or two now the Americans the CIA are saying we're pretty sure it was North Korea that coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► and saying it was it was it was them on top of that. North Korea have praised the hack but have said it wasn't them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► On top of that this film which was going to come out on Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► or Boxing Day The hackers then started saying we're going to do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► and we're warning you not to be in the cinema watching this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► when it comes out in the end they even made allusions to nine eleven like they made threats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► and started saying well we're not going to show this film because we can't guarantee security and that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► and then Sony have pulled the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► and said OK we're not going to we're not going to release the film which a lot of people have really condemned as kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► of cowing to terrorism and this terrible movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► For free speech and and that's that's launched a whole bunch of stories in itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► So there's all sorts of things going on with this story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► The complacency of you know security at big corporations state sponsored hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► and then you know free speech issue so all the stuff's been going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► and stuff this isn't kind of a little fringe story this is been like one of the big stories in the world in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► couple of weeks and it because it is on so many things you find interesting. I thought you'd be all over it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► Obviously not and I understand why but OK so here here is the situation I'm in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► This is often the situation when news stories come up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► I am familiar with the phrase the interview and pulled yet so I have I have seen headlines possibly on Reddit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► Yep that's a movie called The interview was pulled. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► but that is that before you before you started telling me about stuff that was the full extent of my knowledge I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► have told you anything about what the movie was or any any of these other details. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► Yeah and this is often what I mean by even if you try not to follow the news stuff still makes it through. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► But but none of the details of this happened to make it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► and as you refer to it as my bubble this time out of the interview that that does sound familiar and it being pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► but I didn't know any of the details about the hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► and so that does sound like quite a big story just going off on the details that you have told me it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► It's like a terrible decision on Sony's part. Yeah pull it if I feel like if I was the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► Of Sony I would release the movie for free on the internet with a lot of things I would suggest that I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► overall the position has been that it was a bad decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► but the irony that seems to be I think even I think maybe the president said I can understand concerns for movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► theaters not wanting to show it if there's been threats I think that's a more difficult conversation to have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► Yeah but you don't you don't give in to terrorists. Do you know what that you know that was my that was my reaction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Two as well and that remains that remains my instinctive reaction to my I feel like the only response is screw you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► Otherwise what North Korea gets to dictate all movie plot lines from now on with Sony that Sony has to run everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► by North Korea and that is the ONLY THAT is the only conclusion to this kind of kind of action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► and so you have to say all right you released a whole bunch of embarrassing stuff about us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► That's terrible we wished it hadn't happened but you are not going to dictate our actions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► That's kind of like all the you know you don't negotiate with terrorists philosophy is is exactly what you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► You're going to let somebody control your actions or you're not and the only sane thing to do is go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► or not even if that means that there are there are costs you don't let other people dictate your actions so I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► I have read a couple of interesting responses taking a slightly different perspective that pointing out all the ways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3654">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► which America has at least bent to the fear of terrorism. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► I mean anyone who has been to an airport in the two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► and anyone who's ever been to an airport before the two thousands would notice a slight difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► That's not even remotely comparable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► I think it is comparable it's all like we we won't we won't live in fear we were in that you affect our lifestyle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► Oh my goodness how much how much has the fear of terrorism affected lifestyle in the last fifteen years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► Unbelievably people happily was due goes to jump through all these ridiculous hoops at airports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► and all these other things that have happened since since you know nine eleven and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► and people say nothing about all these laws that have passed and all these actions that have happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► and things that have happened and it's like you know people are just swallow the pill and you pull a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► and suddenly you pull this like flippant comedy movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► and suddenly it's like we must not give an inch to these people like. There is a slight contradiction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► I do I do see what you're saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► I do see what you're saying I don't think that the airport comparison is an apt one mainly because to me that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► seems like a like a different a different kind of reaction because the terrorists did not say a pilot is like a merry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► Christmas episode everybody's talking about terrorism the terrorist did not say we want you to install the security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► features like this is this is the kind of action you take in reaction to how the world is it is not the same thing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► kind of direct command from somebody who's threatening you saying we want you to perform action X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► and If you don't perform action X. There will be consequences. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► That's the kind of statement that I mean you just you can't you can't go along with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► So I don't think the airport security one is comparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► but I can feel that there is an argument to be made somewhere here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► and I think actually that the triviality of the movie is kind of what makes it a much easier decision is to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► should just release this movie anyway. This is not a big. A big discussion about state secrets. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► They're bad people and I feel and a lot of people are not massively sympathetic to Sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► and sort of say well you know they've got a track record for getting hacked with their Playstation problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► and they lack some big corporate people need to learn to take these things seriously and maybe that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► but I I don't think and there's also been this how you do have a great story full of nuanced arguments. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► There's this other massive argument about whether or not the media is being too complicit in this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► when all these like gossipy emails about from Sony executives about Hollywood stars like should the media just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► and give the oxygen to the to the what the terrorists want because this stuff getting hacked doesn't matter so much if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► the media don't then say what disturbs the public to mine. Let's tell these gossipy story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► Or ease and compare salaries and have all these bitchy comments between people and what's that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► What should the media do here because the media is like condemning the hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► but they're also saying we're now this does public you know afraid to report. We're obliged to report it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► I say yeah yeah yeah. Well hey I feel like self respecting places would not do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► But obviously most of the news is as we discussed many times is not self respecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► and they want things that are easy that will generate lots of views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► and this is just the easiest most of you grab this kind of thing to do and that is the nature of the beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► and that is that that's obviously just what they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► and it makes total sense for them to rabble rousers with one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► and say oh isn't this terrible that's terrible hacking stay tuned to us about the latest details about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► terrorism threats from North Korea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and oh by the way let's also talk about the salaries of all of these people isn't it great that we have access to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3891">TS</a>]
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01:05:22 ◼ ► things that won't be released anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► I've seen this video doing the rounds on Reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► and elsewhere which purports to be a scene from the film the film which shows the sort of assassination death of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► North Korean leader and I don't know if it's a dream sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► or he dies at the end of the film I don't know what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► but the saying is him in a helicopter being hit by a missile or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► and then dying in the quite graphic quite graphic way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3948">TS</a>]
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01:05:57 ◼ ► and it's like well that's that's full on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► And it's when the film was released in another country that showed that simulated death of Barack Obama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► or something like that. I imagine a lot of people would be upset and that is is it does it is interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► I do wonder what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and I'm not saying the U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► Would then go and hack into some other countries film companies stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► but it is it is like it's pretty that's pretty interesting stuff to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► and I know there was a documentary in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► Called the assassination of George Bush and this is not unprecedented but it is an interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► when you're starting to make films about the assassinations of currently living people and I'm all for free speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► and I'm not saying pull the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► and I want to see the film I really want to see the film now because of all this hype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► and I like some of the actors in it but it was interesting I watched and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► when I saw that saying I was like if your from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4016">TS</a>]
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01:07:05 ◼ ► other countries. That's quite a thing to say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► Well I think that's quite a thing so you know I maybe should have a look to me what you think sometime. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4028">TS</a>]
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01:07:30 ◼ ► happy the last month or two. Oh yeah oh yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4050">TS</a>]
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01:07:44 ◼ ► and I'm not used to having little little boys around an effect on the bright side I think it was him that I have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4064">TS</a>]
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01:08:01 ◼ ► You won't know about this if you don't know about the signing Heck there's no chance you're going to know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► story. OK but you might not even know of this thing that exists but it it baffles me. OK It is called the B.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► Sports Personality of the year. Nor Greeley nor have you ever heard of this thing I have never heard of this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► OK it gets worse. Better be good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► Not so bored already we haven't even started talking about it this is this is a contest that grips this this is a night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► of the year that grips the nation like everyone is so into this and it's treated like such an important thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► But once a year the baby say has this big televised T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► Show award ceremony like the Oscars where they crown the Sports Personality of the year from Britain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► and they choose a short list of like ten people from all different sports so they'll be footballers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► and racing car drivers and cricketers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► and you know whoever has excelled that year are usually on the international stage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► They poll they they have them together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► The public vote on their favorite based on a criteria that is discernable to me it's called Sports Personality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► year. There's no weighting attributed to what you've accomplished compared to what someone else accomplished. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► There's a public vote and then at the end of the night they announce the winner and they give them this trophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► and like and really important sports people win because Britain's Got some good sports people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► and they're always there and they get up on stage and they really emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► and they talk about it like it's one of the greatest accomplishments of their life like it's it's treated like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► Even by the people winning it like so this year was won by Lewis Hamilton who's a Formula One world champion which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4193">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Big sweep of thing and then he wins this meaningless British popularity contest decided by a phone poll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► and I swear that gets more coverage than when he actually won the Formula One title. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► It's a huge thing everyone cares about it. It dates back to the sixty's or seventy's when the B.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► Was far more relevant and I guess it was the only thing it was the only T.V. Thing you could watch on T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► and So it was the centre of one's universe and this was a big T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► Event and for some reason this is old fashioned ridiculous contest just persists year after year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► and it just the whole country stops for not to see who wins this meaningless personality contest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► Even the name Sports Personality of the year. What does that even mean. It annoys me. I can I can see that it does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► Apples to oranges competition I'm not I just like some good size of the Formula One driver comes first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► and second place is a golf and third place is a woman runner I think it was it's like it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► And I don't know if it is treated so importantly even by the people living it like they seem sincere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► when they say this means a lot to me like this is a really big deal thank you Can I ask you something pretty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► Yeah I don't understand why this bothers you because other people don't get it because other people think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► important because other people think it has meaning and I want to I want to just sit them down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► and say listen this has no meaning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► It's like it's like if it's like it's once a year the gray family got together in wherever they live North Carolina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► whatever and they your sat in a room and they all voted OK who's our favorite Pod caster of the year who was a member. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4313">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► Our family and then you want to act and then you made some speech like it meant something to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► It's like it's OK it's parochial and you're allowed to have parochial things and have pretty shiny things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► but then you can then he has to be some like if I can feel that this really bothers you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► But this to me is also the perfect kind of thing that I just I cannot engage with this on any level. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► Nothing annoys me more than competitions and have nebulous judging criteria. Like if I'm watching a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► Show and they're judging something and they say OK you just beat that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► and they can explain to me why that person the other person when you say this is this is a popularity contest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► Like what are they supposed to be voting on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► and actually said it sounds like if it's Sports Personality of the year it's basically Who do you like best. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► That's what this sounds like the place. But yeah but a lot based on what my how much people like them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► That's why the people who win are really happy about it because it has been demonstrated to them that lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► not only appreciate their accomplishment in sport but also like them as a person. Well that that makes me even madder. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► I can I can offer no help here except to explain to you that you don't have to follow this this you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► participate or be aware of this popularity contest. Yeah now you just kind of kind of a kind of void. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► I just I never even knew this thing existed until ten minutes ago you also didn't know the Sony hack existed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► So I'm not using you as my yardstick for being in touch with society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► but I am showing you Brady is what is possible in life. I don't want to go as far as I can just imagine some. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4432">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► Huge terrorist attack happening in London and half the population being wiped you not knowing it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► and going out to get milk and like where is it where is everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► I'm sorry about the sports personality thing I just I can see it bothers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► but it just it just strikes me as as one of those things that is interesting to the people who participate in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► and not interesting to the people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► and you cannot explain human interest such love sport so much I'm worried that people who are following this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► and look at the results are going to think that this means something and they can like they can all right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► Athletes accomplishments based on this and I think you gotta let it go very well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4473">TS</a>]
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01:15:49 ◼ ► or two ago I was the one hundred fiftieth anniversary of a famous bridge in England that is very close to where I live. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4549">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► Suspension Bridge and I think he said something online about how much I love bridges and I really love bridges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► and someone made some comments on Twitter and said you should talk about bridges on the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► and I was like Oh I'd love to I'd love to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► And after all your talk about flags I thought maybe I should be about to talk about bridges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► OK but I don't really I have nothing to say about bridges you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► Well that's going to be a problem if you talk of I had plenty of things to say about flags. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► Yeah though I just really like them and I want to talk about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► but I haven't really got any sort of structured reason other than this anniversary of the Clifton Suspension Bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► and also I could see in the news that they're building a new bridge over the Thames in London which I thought would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► interest you. Oh I haven't heard about the new pedestrian bridge near Waterloo which is going to cost. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► I've read that it's going to cost like one hundred seventy five million pounds. This is because they're expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► Well you want to make sure they don't fall down yeah I know that if it cost a lot to make sure it doesn't fall down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► I feel you could do something that went four down for less than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► but anyway I'm not you know the cheapness is not my primary concern in the construction of bridges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► Yes You know you're not paying for any of it. Presumably I'm paying for it with taxes fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► You know why do we have to spend twice as much to make it ten percent safer that's fine that's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► So what I thought we could do is you and I H. I gave you a bit of homework. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► I think I would today say this is a bit rushed but I said let's let's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► and I each come up with our five favorite bridges which sounds a bit like a personality context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► and which Ok so I didn't know the reason for this. You did tell me to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► and it's a completely manufactured excuse for us to talk about bridges you have to say this was not made clear to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► before he just you told me I need to come up with with five bridges and you did not specify why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► and the criteria was just bridges of interest to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Some way that would that's all it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► and you had one thing on them you have to have used the bridge I had a very difficult time with this homework I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► admit my brain just I had a difficult time trying to latch on to this of thinking five bridges five bridges that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► been on I don't know I did come up with a list but it took way longer than something should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► and I have a few items on this list that I'm not even sure you're going to count so that we can we can begin our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► conversation about bridges if I've been to a lot of bridges of interest from each of us that we've been on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► OK how do you want to know first how we're going to YOU ARE THE ONE WHO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS time with his homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► you have you have no structure at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► He's just there to talk about what you were not in before I know tell me your number five Bring I didn't I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► arrange them in order I didn't know they had to be in preference I just have a list of five. Tell me one patrol event. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► Well OK OK if I have to the one arbitrarily I'm going to pick is the I don't know the name off the top of my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► but it's the main bridge in Cologne. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► I quite like that bridge and it has a nice little feature that people couples write their names on blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► and then there is this like a mesh in the bridge that people connect those little locks to apparently is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► is done around the world in many different locations in Japan a lot as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► when I went to Cologne I had literally never heard of this before so this is the first place that I ever came across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► this and the cologne bridge is a satisfactorily industrial looking I quite like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► and then plus the locks I like that feature as well. Nonis is that what you want to talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► Does that do it for your greater good that's a good start. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► SCOTT OK story you talked a bit about the bridges kind of industrial looking Yeah yeah a little industrial not OK Brady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► Why don't you tell me about a bridge I'm going to give you my number five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► and this home this is one that I'm reading this is one this. Specially for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► OK I want to have one from Venice because Venice is got brilliant bridges the reality show probably being the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► famous the big one that goes over the main canal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► but probably the second most famous in the one I'm choosing especially if it is the Bridge of Sighs of the Bridge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► Sighs. OK and that science is in not sizes in a bridge of great size. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► I assumed when you set it for me that that's what you mean it's the Bridge of Sighs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► Do you know this great have you been have you been to Venice. I haven't it is a long time ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► This is a little bridge that just connects to buildings that goes over a little canal I think it connects the palace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► and what used to be the prison cells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► and Legend has it might not be entirely true that after you'd been tried in the palace you obviously were led over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► sort of enclosed bridge to be taken away locked away or may be executed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► and you had one last look at the window of the bridge where you could see sort of the canal and the beauty of Venice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► and they say prisoners would sigh before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► Then taken away to their doom was one final look at the beauty that I was leaving behind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► Yeah this this this looks familiar and that sounds like a story I might have heard when I was in Venice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► Yeah Addison often keep bridge it is a cute little bridge go on to give us another one. Number four for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► Oh the sounds of the church I look it up on the I don't have a number for these are just all I don't know what all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► right well I'm just used to portioning members to them for the sake of mine are in reverse order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► All right now I have some questions a technicality here. Like you said we have to be on a bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► Does it count if I've been under the bridge I think undercount Yes that yes that counts. OK Thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► Because then I was going to come up short if under to what you've already been on four bridges in your life I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► was trying to come up with a list of five bridges that I could remember that were interesting in some way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► OK so my next one then is the great belt bridge which is in Denmark. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► I don't know if you if you know the great belt bridge to sound familiar. It's I don't know I've been to Denmark and St. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4913">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Some pretty impressive bridges but that one that name doesn't ring a bell. What's going on there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► The great I'll have to put up a picture and I guess all of these are going to have pictures in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► and out a lot of thing you know this is the this is the breaches in the bridge bridges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► and yeah it's a case of the great belt bridge it is in Denmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► and it is the According to Wikipedia is the third longest that it connects these different Danish islands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► I never knew that his bridge existed until I happened to be on a ship that was going through one of theirs to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► I didn't know that it was coming and then you can just I just saw it on the horizon it's like this thing is enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► and going under the bridge made it feel like it was a thousand times bigger than it actually is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► So I thought that that was that that is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► and interesting is that a different bridge now is not always on that bridge just recently when I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► and this isn't the bridge bridge by the way this isn't the bridge in the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► Show the bridge but we do which is Danish T.V. But this I went over this bridge to go and get my model of Pi printed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► Oh did you. When I went from Copenhagen to the factory where we did the printing when trying to there we go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► Good choice. So do you. No you couldn't piss and my Yeah Am I good at this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► Yeah I think you're just so excited to talk about bridges that you're happy to get whatever you can get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► Do you know exhausted by bridges are they not just great things just great accomplishments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► and interesting in so many ways do you not think that I like all markers of human domination over nature which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► but I feel like you are definitely way more excited about this than I am so I would like to hear an expert. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► Number four I'm going to do the one that just had its birthday the Clifton Suspension Bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► OK which basically looks like any other famous suspension bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► Except you know a bit smaller than what most of them are these days but this was like a trailblazer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► This was designed by. Isn't bad king timber now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► He's like the famous engineer of England and did amazing things across the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► and this is considered like his crowning achievement although it was not finished until after he died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► and it's a beautiful it's beautiful looking it's just it's just a classic classic looking bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► and that's very close to my house and I drive across almost every way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► and that makes me happy so it's a bit of a hometown hero for me so I'm going to Clifton Suspension Bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► and I want to talk anymore about it because I want to hear another one from you because yours are more exciting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► I don't know what's on your list. Give me your number three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► The next one I don't know if it'll count as well because the interesting thing is not the bridge itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► but many years ago I went to Hong Kong and then I went to China and when I was leaving Hong Kong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► and going into China you have to pass through this bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► but they have turned the bridge into a big passport check zone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► And it was a it was a very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► and very weird experience because it was so obviously a bridge that had been enclosed so it was a long long passageway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► and it was also just kind of a boring like airport interior on the inside but also with many passport checks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► I don't remember what the heck it was but they were just like a lot of desks that you had to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► and people look at your passports and there were you know military looking guys with the dogs walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► and it was it was a strange strange bridge because it really did feel like an airport interior that extended from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► sort of kind of a country into another part of that country. So it was it was a strange experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► But the bridge itself is not notable it is the things that the humans have done inside the bridge which is notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► but look at this is an engineered bridge. Passports of border politics it sounds like a great fantasy this place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► You musta loved it. Well it was interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► This is also a long time ago where I was not quite the same person that I am today but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► It was my experience on the bridge that always may be aware of how Hong Kong is a bit of a strange place which did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► eventually lead to a video and I was an expert. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► My Number three is the Hillary suspension bridge which is a bridge you walk over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► when you go to Mount Everest on the Nepal side as you go to Mount Everest you have to crisscross like ravines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► and Gorges all the time and you're always going over these suspension bridges that look a bit perilous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► and sort of you know oxes and cows are going over them and donkeys as well as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► and it's you know you feel are you taking your life into your own hands that look terrified. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► Yeah because the most or you got a picture of it up that I would not cross that bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► Well that's the that is that is a bridge that I would not cross. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► That's one of the better looking ones but it is very it is kind of the most famous and picturesque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► and it's the one that really starts your trip because you cross that bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► and then you go up this really really steep mountain climb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► and that takes most of the day to get up to a place called neck cheapest So that kind of even though it's the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► day of the trek that that bridge from a really marks the start of your climb up to Everest base camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► and that's named after Ed Hillary he's a real hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► and it is very interesting looking at all the handrails the hand cables have got prayer flags and ribbons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► and scarves erect around them and they blow in the wind and it looks very spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► and this bridge is basically one step above the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► True bridge that is made of wooden planks in which one wooden plank in the movie always breaks as the characters try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► walk across and that is this bridge is better than that in construction but just barely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► It's interesting when you when you do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► when you do that trek to Everest I'm just looking the first You Tube video that comes up of the Hillary suspension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► bridge I'm hoping it might actually be mine is mine. I made it I was made a little short video showing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► It's interesting when you do this tricky You see you go over you know it seems like a hundred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► Just like like this and they usually made of metal and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► and I feel I feel pretty safe you get used to them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► But in almost all cases about five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► or six meters below sometimes collapsed sometimes still intact is that cliched wooden broken bridge that you said to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► in the US and you look down and you think oh my goodness people used to actually go over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► and it's usually rotting away and looks terrible when you're going over the more sturdy one above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► but you do see lots of cool pictures like that so yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► Hilary suspension bridge you look to the other side first to make sure there's no cows or or donkeys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► or anything coming because you don't want to be on the bridge at the same time as those gusts they get right of way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► This is again the kind of situation I would not want to put myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► and I don't I don't want to ever be at a bridge I have to worry about livestock coming the other way I would love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► would love it afterwards you would be so pleased to do that if I hadn't died yes I would love it afterwards that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► But somebody is going to be the first person that the bridge breaks on you know nobody's going to be that guy ninety. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► What if you've got a lottery ticket every time you cross. Give us your number to bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► OK so here's another one that I don't know if you can count it as a bridge if you go any that counted. No more bridges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► I gave you one normal bridge I gave you the cologne bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► and most of the one of them saving it for the end which I would say is my favorite bridge is a real bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► I go I have another one that I think it counts as a bridge although you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► and I would say that it is the Hoover Dam counts as a Brit now have you ever been to the Hoover Dam never have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► the one one of the the one time I had a good chance to go there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► They weren't letting buses go over because it was too soon after nine eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► and I was on a bus this is going to be a bit confusing for some people because at Hoover Dam they have now finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► built an actual bridge that goes over Hoover dam so that the geography of this is a bit confusing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► when people think of Hoover Dam They tend to think of something that's kind of level with the surrounding area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5393">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► Really the case that Hoover Dam is already a fair bit down inside the gorge through which the river passes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► So there is there was ground that is above it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► and probably since the creation of Hoover Dam they have desperately needed a through road for all the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► but don't want to visit Hoover Dam like the thousands of tourists who are clogging up the actual road that goes across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► Yeah and so it just actually I think in the past five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► or so they have finished the construction of an actual bridge that does go over Hoover Dam So that is not the bridges I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► am talking about because the first time I went to Hoover Dam That bridge was not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► and the second time I went to Hoover Dam That bridge was under construction I can see pictures of it now it's like away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► from the dam and sort of ruins the look of it in person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► It's actually much more impressive than it looks in pictures of these what I saw under construction I thought oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► but more importantly it is desperately necessary because both times I have been to Hoover Dam is just a traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5455">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► nightmare. I cannot imagine anybody who has to drive across that for non tourist reasons. They must lose their minds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► I think it counts as a bridge would you give me that as a Brit I don't think I have a choice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► Construction pictures of the Hoover Dam brilliant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► and of anybody if you visit the Hoover Dam You know you can go deep down into the bowels of the Hoover Dam is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► a very interesting place and it has a kind of this architecture that I just love which is the Art Deco. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► We are humans building amazing things kind of architecture they have these very stylized I think what they call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► Hoover Dam angels I'll put a picture of them in the show notes but it is it is just art deco look that I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► and so Hoover Dam is done in that style and I really do quite like him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► but I'm going to give it to take out of the bridge because I've got nothing else for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► and I for my number to you I'm getting into cliche territory here but that's just the way it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► My number two I'm going to go for the Golden Gate Bridge. Yes yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► What can you say it just is man it is what is so awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► You look at her and it's like a celebrity walked in the room because it is a celebrity bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► and let you know whenever I say it when you're flying into San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► and you say it for the first time against the water you that color of a certain And you know you walk across. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► It's just it's super stuff and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► and because San Francisco has become a bit of a second home at the moment with a number of our stuff you know it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► I feel like I feel a bit of extra loyalty to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► But wherever I am or whatever I'm doing if I can say it I'll look at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► Glover I believe I may have this entirely wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► but I'm dredging up from my memory somewhere that the color of the Golden Gate Bridge is not the color it was intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► What if I think the name is an international orange or something or international red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► or somewhat well that's the name I think it's like it's like a warning color paint that it's some kind of standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► but my understanding is like this was supposed to just be during the construction phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► but this was not intended to be the the permanent color of the bridge that may be entirely wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► and maybe I'll cut it later if it is or maybe I just won't if I'm feeling lazy so I will leave it on the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► and I love stories of hope a stray you can offend me and I will Kapadia rabbit hole now where you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► when I made all the You Tube was a walk across the Golden Gate Bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► I have walked across the Golden Gate Bridge with a bunch of you two words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► but I'm not sure if you were talking about this particular is the last you can forget I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► and I just love walking across the Golden Gate Bridge so I was like this will go across the Golden Gate Bridge so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► drive out there and it was they must have been there and you know via destine and grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► and I was there for that I didn't realize that the reason we were walking across the bridge was because of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► Because after about halfway across I kind of been so the pressure because you know that wasn't great weather that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► and everyone was kind of like some people in the same day in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► and I kind of felt pressure that people enjoy it because I suggested it and then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► So I was like oh we can turn back if you want to another people out we're not turning back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► and you're the one that said we should do it. So they became a bit of a why do we walk all the way across on up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► when we were there on that day I think I have a couple of pictures I really like of everybody who was at the new conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► on that day going across the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► and I was fond memories of San Francisco I would suggest one more thing because it's Christmas Day like Don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► don't actually do it now that is a really good documentary called The Bridge which is very very sad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► Completely fascinating and it's one of my favorite documentaries. It's all about the Golden Gate Bridge and suicide. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► But but seriously like it is a it is a really really really significant and if you like filmmaking and documentaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► and things I can't I really recommend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► Yeah I guess if you found our conversation about terrorism too uplifting for your Christmas afternoon go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► and watch that documents it is very good have you have seen it I have not ever. You should watch it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► You should want to. I will put on my list. Do it seriously do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► I say I will I will I think you will I think you will I'm not saying you like it I think you take something from I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► OK Is it my turn is it your turn it's your it's your number one although I know they're not in order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► My personal favorite bridge is the golden jubilee bridges which are here in London. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► The Naming is always slightly confusing because there are two bridges that are kind of on top of each other. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► One is called the Hungerford Bridge which is a bridge that is just for trains that crosses the Thames at embankment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► and right on either side of the Hungerford Bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► Are these two additional footpath only bridges that were built later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► and those are called the Golden Jubilee bridges built for the queen's golden jubilee. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► And I absolutely adore these bridges for various reasons I happened to be in that area a lot and every time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5751">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► My walk across that bridge it just makes me happy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► It's in a beautiful spot in the city and good views there yeah you have tremendous views of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► and that skyline in particular I feel like I have walked across that bridge so many times I have taken so many pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► from that bridge. I have more often than I really should just tweeted pictures from that bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► It's hard to resist because it just makes me very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► and I have seen that skyline now change over I guess the ten eleven twelve eleven I have no idea the more than a decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► that I have been here in London I have seen a whole bunch of buildings go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► and I love I love seeing that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► and so for me just just personally that is my favorite bridge in the world at this moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► and every chance I get I walk across that if people come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► and visit me I often start if we're going to go for a walk you're like OK let's started embankment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► and oh look there's that bridge that we get across. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► and take a look at all the things so that is my my current favorite out of your kind of London brag to her is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► know are just it's a nice way to see London. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► Yeah yeah a lot of assets and I mean this is an amazing part of the world and like to you know see Westminster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► and everything and so you know top that was your it was your mom's probably pretty predictable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► but I have to say because it just it is just you know it's it's just it's another soap star and it's the same stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► and then there is the Sydney have a village. Oh of course of course we're going to have to go with the home team. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► Well I didn't say the Sydney Harbour Bridge till quite late in offered Australian because I didn't go to Sydney till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► I'm I I'm I've been in my twenty's. I'm not sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► Oh yeah and the first time I saw it with my own eyes it was like that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► and like you can glimpse it from different parts of the city and then you get out on the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► but no matter where you see it from what angle whether it's you know I saw it on the front on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► and what it you know you catching a snippet of it between buildings and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► or the for the for Panorama it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5876">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► Brilliant from every angle and I cannot stop looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► and even even now that I've probably seen a million times I just cannot tear my eyes away from if I if I'm anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► that has a view of it I have to look at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► A so much bigger than you think it's really industrial and chunky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► and it manages to manages to look really old from another era while at the same time looking really modern like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► and I think it's got it's got everything going for it it's in this incredible beautiful location. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► It's right in the heart of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► and that Golden Gate Bridge which feels like it's a bit you know pushed away from the heart of San Francisco sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► out in the outskirts of Sydney Harbour Bridge is like this big base in the middle in the middle of everything in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► I've had some great you know a couple of lovely new years a right underneath the watching fireworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► and I was there for the Olympics and it's a great. Said to pace for a celebration. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► Scott Scott everything Sydney Harbour Bridge really is in the sense of just pulling up on the maps here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► and it is right in the middle. It couldn't be any more and you know really it's it's got everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► I have not done the bridge climb because lots of people going to ask if I've done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► and I was really going to ask because that was not that I know anything about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► when I type in Sydney Harbour Bridge Google immediately says the Sydney Harbour Bridge Climb. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► Question where and I when I don't let on that yeah I would do it one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► but what is it you can you put on harnesses in your harness and you clip onto a rope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► and you can sort of climb over the span over the action. You know really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► Yeah yeah not something that sounds like you day itself I mean you clipped in meekly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► And so that sounds better than like you know the the the Mount Everest bridge the Indian returns bridge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► Yeah I mean you know I clipped in on that one so I guess if I had to choose between the two it sounds like I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► something I would do the Sydney Harbour Bridge Climb before I would go across. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► And I think the Hillary bridge will collapse before the Sydney Harbour Bridge does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► but yes I would also I would also wager that I did have some honorable mentions but I'll save them for another day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► Oh yeah the great great so we can continue that was our art was pretty good fun although I'm glad you enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► and it is Christmas. Thank you for humoring me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► This is my Christmas gift to you Brady who's talking to you about bridges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► So it's time for our Middle Earth corner to use those things first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► You released a very popular new video in the last few days as we record all about Lord Of The Rings sort of mythology I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► There is surely the geekiest nude iest video of yours that I can remember watching I really think some of them I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► like in terms of here's here's the mythology of something that's already fiction so here's the fiction within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6054">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► fiction and it's like oh really like you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► Good luck you know I learned I learned from I enjoyed it and so have many many other people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► That's you know if there are like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► Yeah but it wasn't it was a bit like he is a made up thing and that he is a made up thing within the made up thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► and it's like the sort of thing that would take really seriously on the war technically technically they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► angel's brothers of the Sisters of the phone. Your new voice is making me really uncomfortable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► If you like of hitting a little too close to home is going to be what that is I don't want to begin there that may take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► as a compliment but well done on the video I get your bit like a C. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► It may be the nerdy thing I've done because it is about a fictional universe though I was originally a bit like Onisim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► it is nerdy but then your nerd voice I think you just convinced me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► You're obviously cashing in on the whole but maybe opportunist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► Yeah yeah well it's more like this finally got my butt in gear on. Project I'm working on for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6115">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► I think in particular Henry Minute Physics has probably sick of hearing me mention this project as I mentioned it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► him a couple times over the past little while that I was working on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► and I think he was going to feel a bit like yeah I know I've been hearing about this lore the ring's project for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► time now and seeing a whole bunch of nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► I was going through my old emails about this project because there are a couple people that I want to put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► Special thanks at the end of the video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► One of which is Professor Marilyn who is a token professor who has a website where she talks about this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► and I realize that I first sent her an email two years ago now where I compiled my initial notes for the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► draft of this video and I sent them to her and she she gave me the thumbs up so that I had it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► and then I was trying to work on the video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► You don't necessarily have an obviously been working on this for two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► but it's I have many projects like this where they have been started and stopped and they have to be paused and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6175">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► and then re brought back a few times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► So this is a project that has been in existence in some form or another for two years but has been activated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► and then shelved a bunch of times which is also why I think Henry has heard about it from me several times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► Sorry I'm just curious before. Before I ask you about your own thoughts on it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► What did the professor think of the finished product as she watched the video and tell you what she thought of her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► So actually I haven't heard back from her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► or the other person that I asked was someone who works at Ask Middle Earth dot tumblr dot com which is a very nice like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► bite sized Web site for frequently asked questions about Middle Earth stuff which people might want to check out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► I know that that he he was looking at the final draft of my video and he was looking at the final draft of my script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► and said that there were there weren't any errors and I saw I saw that he posted on his tumbler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► and he liked it so that I was going to be pleased with any of anything we should know about behind the scenes one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► the things that had been holding up his project for a very long time was I had done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► A bunch of initial draft stick figures and unlike many of my other videos this has a lot of characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► and kind of particular individuals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► And with my with my very limited art abilities I was never able to find a satisfactory way to distinguish between all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► of the different groups of people and all of the different individuals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► and so the artwork was really something that was that was holding this project back for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► and then since I started working with canoe it was one of the very first things I start to think of is like hey maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► could have this guy help me out with the board of the Rings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► And luckily I didn't drive him away with all of my crazy insistence on the facial expression of Queen lion in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► one and so he signed up for another round of lots of picky picky changes for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► and we worked together on a bunch of different stuff and I think it came out really great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► You know he sent me a bunch of different concepts for how the artwork could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► and we kind of narrowed it down to to the way it looks in the end and I'm really thrilled with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► I could never have done this so just as a huge thanks. Huge thanks goes to him with helping me out on this video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► So that's that's that's one of the things well done Conneaut. Yeah it looks it looks just great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► Should I pay a what's going on here. Oh OK yes if some people saw me complaining on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► So anybody who was a kind of Lord Of The Rings fan knows Tolkien was a big fan of names and so on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► All this background stuff a lot of the Rings is a little difficult to get into because not only are there a huge number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► of characters but also token gives all of them four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► or five names Elvin names their actual names in their own languages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► There's human translations for the names there's just a million names and there's this phenomenon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► when you read stuff that you just don't have any idea how it's supposed to be pronounced And so here was a problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► I ran into. I'm familiar with lots of these names and I'm reading them and I have an idea of in my head. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6353">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► But of course with things that you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► and you never hear another person speak out loud because there are not many times in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► when you run across someone else who wants to talk out loud with you about the mythology behind The Lord Of The Rings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► You don't have a chance to compare pronunciation notes and so I don't know how this kind of slipped my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► but I did not realize until the morning I was I had to record it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► This was the day that that the final Hobbit movie was released in the States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► and I was frantic in the morning like OK I have everything off that I just need to record the audio for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► and I realized I don't have any idea how to pronounce some of these names him for real. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► I know in my head how I pronounce them but I have no idea if I'm going to do this right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► And let's just put it this way the kinds of people who get into the talking mythology they are nerdy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► A detail oriented people and so I was suddenly terrified that I was going to get all of these wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► but I had to I had to do something really quick and so on a lot of guidelines they have the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6416">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► Listing for how the name should be pronounced I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► Meaning Well OK So anybody who's gone to the articles at the top where you look at some article it'll say like oh here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► and then they have a bunch of little symbols which are like funny shaped letters so it's like the upside down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► or the backwards or the bold eye it's like this string of little characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► and I'm sure almost everybody's had this experience where you think oh I'm not quite sure how to pronounce this word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► and you click on those strange characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► and then it takes you to this page that shows you how each of the letters is supposed to be pronounced so that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► like oh you know if you see a bold C It's supposed to be C. As in cat not C. As in scent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► Right yeah that that sounds relatively easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► but where it gets really hard is with the Val sounds How do you represent what the different valve sounds are supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► So I found myself infuriated the morning that I was supposed to record the audio trying to work through some of the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6474">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► The I.P.A. Stuff and it was brought to a head. A lot of problems that I have with the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► I think it is just totally useless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► I don't think there is anybody who is not a professional linguist that this stuff actually helps with because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► looking at a word that you don't know how to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► and then you have to look at a bunch of symbols that most people are just not familiar with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► So in your mind you don't have placeholders for these things you have to think oh I am looking for the finally written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► or This bizarre symbol over here this little line then you have to find it on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► and then on that list it shows you a bunch of other words to try to compare that sound to as if you were trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► something long like what I was trying to do every will move it's our right this is a name that I wanted to check. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► You you cannot if you are not already familiar with it successfully use the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► To tell you how to pronounce this because there are just too many things that you're mentally juggling in your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► and then like too many of the vowel things are just are not clear enough and so I just I hate the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6535">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► and It feels like this relic from a bygone era when people had to write dictionaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► and there was there was no way of conveying audio information to other people and I was just in period. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► Why is there not a website where I can copy and paste the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► Symbols and a computer just spits out the sounds for me that doesn't exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► There's a couple things that were sort of close but just terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► when I tested them against actual words I know how to pronounce it just came out all wrong it's like look look I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► People if you think this system is as consistent as you think it is I should be able to take these symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► and have a computer spit out the sounds but it doesn't seem like this is possible and I was complaining on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► and then what irritates me is people who are professional linguists writing back in the OR go to the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► and I am sure if you use this every day that it is a tool that can convey meaning to professionals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► But I just think it is it is totally useless for people who don't use it all the time. I've never been in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6594">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► What do you to successfully figure out how to pronounce a word that I don't already know how to pronounce. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► Now I will admit that my particular problem is what they call a corner case it does not affect very many people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► how often is someone ever trying to find out the pronunciation of a word that doesn't either exist in their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► language or an actual language spoken by other humans. I imagine not very often but this is what I'm trying to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► If I'm looking up something like is tare which is an elven word there is surprisingly like few cases I think where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► someone is ever going to be using the I.P.A. To try to figure out made up words. Well so is it like all of this aside. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► Yeah and as you know I was going to say I feel your pain but I'd be lying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► Yeah I know you do lie but all of this is so odd. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► Who's the official arbiter of the pronunciation of these words anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► Because the guy who made them up made them up I should say is dead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► And like so how do we go to to find out how you stereo whatever that word like Mike is not just some arbitrary decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► anyway how to pronounce a token did have a pronunciation guides. He'd say he wrote one one using lies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► It's complicated it will be his guide there are tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► but there are also there are recordings of him actually speaking out loud the names of lots of the stuff I did lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► audio recordings of him but this is the thing if if I wasn't time constrained this would not be such an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► but I had to get this done on the day the movie was being released I figured as I let the clock was ticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► and I did not have time to go chase down a whole bunch of stuff to try to find every token recording ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► Anyway that ended up just being a frustrating irritating morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► but I also just fine like if people were telling me like lists of the IP stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► and the other problem with this is I'm fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► The things are confusing because well it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► when you get if you if you think about a dictionary too long the whole thing just seems insane because you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► and you can end up getting into these bizarre loops very like oh where these words define themselves like oh God how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► did this start somewhere and it doesn't start anywhere right they're all just interconnected and the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► Does the same thing with with human sounds are always writing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► Oh it's it's like the sounds in this word wow do you know how I pronounce this word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► and they try to give you a whole bunch but you think it's so easy to fall off the path here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► but anyway I just feel like we're in a world now where we can have recordings of stuff let's just use those we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► don't need to have this this strange system that has such prominence at the top of every Wiki Pedia article just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► just have a button I can click where the word is pronounced don't show me the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► Stuff it's a totally unhelpful to almost absolutely everybody is is my my problem with the I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► How do you go in the end it did many people leave comments saying that you got pronunciations wrong as pretty positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► that you know of most of them. I'm pretty pleased I nailed most of them I got one slightly wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► But it's it was it was OK. What woman. OK so I got I got it wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► Ivana which I think in the video I reversed in the end sounds I think I said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► or I can't I can't quite remember which way I said it but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► and I think I might be saying it wrong right now I suddenly can't remember out now that reel in the video for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► Yeah well you know there's always there's always something there was a typo in the video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► It's like there are always typos I can never avoid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► but all things considered I was I was very worried about this video because I thought this was a this was a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► exercise in leaving out information. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► I love the Lord Of The Rings stuff and you can go really deep on Lord Of The Rings in the background information and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6832">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► I find that it is a world that has that perfect mixture of consistency but also mystery. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► I felt like that is a very difficult balance to get right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► but I think the token universe just just hits that really perfectly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► when I was say I said in the beginning of the video millions of pages is obviously hyperbole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► and their words were correct I mean they go actually some really you know only has four hundred pages but yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► but like yes I just showed a picture of the sim really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► and because if people might be vaguely familiar with this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► but it's like there's a legendarium there's the token letters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► There's all of Christopher Tolkien's writings that there are thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► and thousands of pages of stuff talking about everything that has ever happened and I was I wasn't very manly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► but anyway so I was worried I was worried that I had to dramatically simplify a whole bunch of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► and so I thought I might have just made a video that is to an interesting for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► but actually irritates the hell out of the people who would like it the most as as token fanatics because I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► simplify a whole bunch of stuff and it just strikes me as a video that did not need to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► but that's what I that's what I love about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► Like there's no like it's not like I was sitting there thinking you know I just you know I hope a lot of the Rings OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► but I just want to know what they believe behind all that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► Well that's been the most fun things is that yeah we like doing lists of bridges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► Yeah I don't think anyone will tune into I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► and I hope they do of these two bridges because there's absolutely no reason for that you know I was making fun of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► before for things that you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► but of course this is my version of of the bridge if I miss something I'm intensely interested in this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► and I totally love it but it is it is not useful in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► and this is again just going to the arbitrariness of human interest. I cannot say why I'm so interested in it really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6953">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► I can try to come up with reasons but you know ultimately you are interested in stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► or you aren't interested in stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► But for the record token nerds I just want to I just want to get something on the record here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► I am perfectly aware of the great contention over the origin of Orcs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► I just had to go with one version of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► and I went with what I think is the simplest one for people who are unfamiliar with the sim really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► But please no more emails about the actual relationship between milk or and the creation of life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► I'm fully aware of this I just this was an exercise in simplification. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► So there I just want to want to get that on record. But you forgot to mention it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► Tell you what you are complaining about your easy bridge homework. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► Yeah you sent me into Bristol on one of the busiest shopping days of the year at the height of the crowds to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► and see the hobbit movie today so that we could talk about it. As you know I did my homework. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7015">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► Did I send you and I think I suggested that this would be something that we might want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► and I'm not sure this was homework homework in the same way that you you commanded that I come up with five bridges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► No we have we have related to Lord Of The Rings stuff we have both just watched the final Hobbit movie which I did at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► the same time as we had in way yet we were or our we were in the same location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► but our movie watching experience was overlaps today to watch The Hobbit the battle of five armies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► So we're going to talk about it now away you know we can talk about it now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► I took some notes I assume you took some notes as well you know what I was really nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► and I took notes during the film on my i Phone and i was really impressed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► Yeah I had generally surprised I did it on a like on an on an email like on an open email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► and then I don't think I saved it to dry off because I kept calling them so I haven't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7076">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► Actually got them so I really like seven or eight really interesting notes and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► but you know what you know I'm waiting on I'm going to give you credit for trying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► I just assumed that you would take no notes at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► but I am quite pleased that you actually at least attempted to take me out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► It gets worse I'll tell you a funny story about the end of the film afterwards as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► Let's talk about the film now and I'll have one last check of these nights out here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► but I'm pretty sure they're not you know I think all my time had us all right but I didn't take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► Where do we where do we start talking about this film we both we both obviously had seen the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► and I think we've both spoken in non glowing terms about the first two previously. Yes we have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► I'm going to start this with before actually watching the movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► When I purchased tickets because I hate going to the movies I really hate everything about the movies. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7136">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► Every once in a while I go to a movie for various reasons and it is not an enjoyable experience something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► Really it's like it's like that but I don't do it much anymore the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► or two I really dial down because of the various reasons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► but it's like a real it's a real special occasion for me going to the movies I really like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► Today was one of the first times it didn't feel like that at film and shorter. Well because it was a chore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► Yeah why do you why do you hate it just because it involves like factors you can't control everything that in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► control I can stop the movie I can't posits I can't murder anybody in the theater who's being irritating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► Whereas you can't do that at home I can control the environment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► Yeah but I think you haven't got a joy Norma screen I am perfectly willing to pass up the joining. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7192">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► I'm a scream for control without without any hesitation that is that is a trait I'm willing to make. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► OK so I dislike everything about the movie going experience and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► when I was suggesting oh it is my thing to do for a Christmas show I thought OK well let me now I have to go look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► We agreed I'm going to go buy tickets and when I was looking I was trying to find tickets for Lord Of The Rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► and I discovered fortuitously that one of the theaters near by me has what I'm going to refer to as the airport lounge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► Yeah there's a few nice ones like that and I'm very familiar with this experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► and have indulged in that many times now I was completely unaware of this never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► and this is the first I came across this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► But basically for five pounds more on the ticket which considering the ticket I think would have been fifteen pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► anyway. You can get these big recliner seats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► If you can have like a waiter who comes over and brings you popcorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7256">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► when you press a button that your screen is much smaller but you're in a much smaller space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► and because it's more expensive that acts as a child filter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► People with lots of children don't want to go into the more expensive area and I thought man this is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► when I was going to be stuck in Dulles Airport for many hours of uncomfortableness I was going into this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► expecting many hours of uncomfortableness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► and so I thought this is exactly the moment I am happy to pay a little bit more to make this experience as comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► as possible and so I went into the kind of lounge area to watch a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► and it mitigated a very large number of my complaints about movies all of which center mostly around other people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► So no I had I had a. That's our innovation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:53 ◼ ► Yeah it was interesting to discover and I still don't like movies but having discovered the lounge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7313">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► More amenable to going to movies in the future so that was one hundred percent worth it you know something also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► interesting one and it gave me a little insight into maybe you know the life of the film critic and people like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:12 ◼ ► Lou this was one of the first times I could remember going to a film like for work reasons knowing that I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7332">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► have to talk about it and it's inevitable you start thinking about what you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► and what you might say in the podcast and things like that and it really affects the way you watch the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► but also it starts then you start thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► and then I started thinking about the fact that it was affecting my thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► and then I could talk right there on the pod cast and try to get all these layers like Inception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► and then I could talk about the fact that I was talking about the fact that I was talking about the fact that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► talking about it. They kind of did my head in a bit and the film hadn't even started. Yes yes it's a different expense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► I kept thinking about a while ago I read an article talking about Roger Ebert's work routine for reviewing movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7371">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► and it just it was interesting he would talk about he always did things on hand written note pads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► and just made no attempt to organize stuff while he was watching the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► and so at the at the end of his movie experience there'd be a whole bunch of sheets just laying around him that he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► torn off the pad as he kept writing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► and you know presumably of course secretary later had to try to put it all in order and collect things together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► But yes I was aware that immediately as well that they're watching a movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► Knowing that you're going to talk about it is a slightly different experience than just watching a movie. Regularly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► Did you have low expectations I have to admit there was a chance I probably would not say in this film at the cinema. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► Thank you so burned by the previous to I love the Lord Of The Rings trilogy. Let me just put my cards on the table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► Yeah. I've not read any books really read none of them really. I'm not I am not a fan you in any way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► So you haven't you haven't read any of the mythology either them yes no I I don't I read those thousands of pages but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7434">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► And if the book was just not in-depth enough for me so I can have a discussion with you about the differences between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► the three ages you know that's when I can have the cottage where you can have it just it is why pay is moderation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7446">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► I really enjoyed the three Lord of the Rings films masterpieces I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► They're not without flaws and occasionally go a bit tedious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► but overall I really liked them I still really watch them sometimes on a winter's day I'll sit down and watch one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► Thanks I think right and then I thought the first two films were real disappointments and we've discussed it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► and to the point where I did not have high hopes attached to this one. Yeah there's my There's my son. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► There's my starting point for today. But let me let me let me do a similar thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► People may not be aware I'm a fan of Lord Of The Rings but I too I love the original Lord Of The Rings movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7496">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► and I have watched all of the extended editions I used to have a D.V.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► Box set with all of the background like dozens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► and dozens of hours of the making of those movies I consumed all of that I just loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► and more importantly I think that those original three movies are a masterful example of how to take books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:24 ◼ ► and film them because you just you cannot just be completely faithful to a book when you make a movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7524">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► These are fundamentally different mediums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► and I just think I have never seen a better book to book to movie transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:37 ◼ ► and the Lord Of The Rings movies so I can enjoy both of them I really like them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7537">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► Obviously I did not like the other movies they are a perfect example of how not to do a book to movie transition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► They're just terrified and that's the sign is the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► Mike I was even staying through the credits again of this one and I was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:54 ◼ ► and I was like yep there is Philip one of the main writers from the last one who have seen a million interviews with on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7554">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► Here's who seemed really competent then and you know she's working with Peter Jackson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► and is like I know all of the I know well enough to recognize all of the writers and the producers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► and I've seen interviews of these people and it's just mind boggling to me that it's all the same team. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► But yes I didn't like the first two Hobbit movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► and so I was going into this one with things with exactly zero expectations whatsoever not even low expectations just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► nothing so there is my starting point. So you like the movie and you think what you think of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:31 ◼ ► You get thumbs up thumbs down thumbs down. Yeah. Dumbed down. Tedious. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7591">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► Thankfully it didn't seem too long blocking to get in the same as long as the other ones. I didn't dislike her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:45 ◼ ► I was just completely it was just like I was completely not engaged with it at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7605">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► I couldn't it was just repetitive and boring not like not like it didn't make me angry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7612">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► I wasn't thinking this is really bad like in the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► when that singing dancing things going on in in the hobbit house I was like oh yes and what a joke this is terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:14 ◼ ► It was never like that it was never like oh it was like watching a Twilight movie where you think this is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7634">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► thing that has ever been committed to sell you Lowenthal virtues. Yeah it wasn't like that. Well it didn't offend me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:27 ◼ ► That's just a complete I just think it just completely failed to engage me in it didn't I didn't care I didn't excite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7647">TS</a>]
02:07:37 ◼ ► and I wasn't impressed by the filmmaking like I was in The Lord Of The Rings just that all the things that the Lord Of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7657">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► and the one my one complaint about the Lord Of The Rings films is that the battle scenes are a bit drag on a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:54 ◼ ► and are a bit too much and this film was just like one epic one of those battles. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7674">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► So in a funny coincidence I have been rereading The Hobbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► and I actually just finished reading The Hobbit this morning before going then to see the final movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► and to be clear I am not complaining about differences that are from the book you have to do things differently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► But the battle of the five armies in the book The Hobbit the entirety of it is maybe maybe two and a half pages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:25 ◼ ► No it is the briefest thing that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7705">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► and I always think Tolkien Spoilers for The Hobbit people still can pull of the great move where he clearly doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► like to write about battles in the actual books there are not many battles described in great detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► and so in The Hobbit he describes the kind of set up here the armies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► Here's where the Orcs are they are advancing this way humans are on one side the mountain Elves on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► But then Bilbo gets knocked out gets knocked unconscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7738">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► and this somehow token the author to just skip the whole battle right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► You turn the page and Bilbo wakes up when the battle is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► and somebody then just quickly relays to him what happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:13 ◼ ► So the actual battle is like nothing at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7753">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► and then this movie is four hours of a battle which again could be done well because a movie is a visual medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:23 ◼ ► and I think that the last time I remember being blown away by special effects in a movie theater was the final Lord Of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7763">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► The Rings movie and the final battle in that movie that was the last time I remember really feeling much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► but it was pretty good it was like I'm not saying it was a great battle scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► and watching it later in life I have found it a little bit long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► when I saw that was like the last time I was really blown away by special effects because I would come on what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:53 ◼ ► watching this battle tonight. Yeah it's endless and inspected and I know I was imagining. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7793">TS</a>]
02:10:00 ◼ ► Is he doing this because he's being loyal to the book and then if if he was which I now know he wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7800">TS</a>]
02:10:05 ◼ ► but if he was I was trying to imagine how the book wrote this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7805">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► and basically it would this is how the book would read it would be you know the more the whore from the north of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► hall took his broad sword and he swore to God to his left. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:24 ◼ ► Kutiman Yes Want to go on to his right and then he swiped another guy to his left and then he fell over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7824">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► and then some giant based was just about to kill him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:34 ◼ ► And just before the Big based hero more from the West suddenly appeared and shot him with an arrow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7834">TS</a>]
02:10:44 ◼ ► Whew that was really close. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7844">TS</a>]
02:10:46 ◼ ► Repeat this nineteen times and then and then a great horn sounded and everyone looked to their right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7846">TS</a>]
02:10:54 ◼ ► and yet another army that you don't care about and know nothing about suddenly appeared on the crest of the mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7854">TS</a>]
02:11:01 ◼ ► and came running down the mountain and come off a horse from the south swiped one to the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7861">TS</a>]
02:11:08 ◼ ► and swiped one to the right and then he fell over and he was just about to die again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7868">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► and you were sure he was going to die this time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:15 ◼ ► And at the last possible moment Cindy the wizard from the east jumped in then and repeat that nineteen times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7875">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► and then another horn sounds and another army appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:28 ◼ ► and is like goodness sake I don't even know who these armies are I don't know who these characters are I don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7888">TS</a>]
02:11:38 ◼ ► I am supposed to support the people who I thought were the good guys are suddenly going to be evil is this is the ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7898">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► a big deal that I know the ring is famous but now all they care about is some stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:51 ◼ ► and these other guys are after some necklace and I'm not I want to the gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7911">TS</a>]
02:11:56 ◼ ► and then there's some other battle going off somewhere else and some people are gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7916">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► I'm on a mission somewhere else and I don't know who they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► and what they're looking for I don't know who I am I don't know who I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:07 ◼ ► when the only person I care about is the hub but because Ron the famous pretty good actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7927">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► and he was an excellent choice for Bill but yeah he's a he's good so you know I hope he lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:17 ◼ ► and I know he lives so there's no you know there's no tension there because the one person I care about I know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7937">TS</a>]
02:12:22 ◼ ► going to live like goodness May That's why I would but also I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7942">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► when the film was made as much like the first three films Peter Jackson felt like this kind of Cecille B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► Demille guy to me it's like he had gone back to old school filmmaking and it felt like he was building big things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► and there were lots of people there and he was making this epic film and use lots of effects very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:50 ◼ ► but it felt like a lot of it was real as well and this one felt a lot more. A lot more facts driven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7970">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► Yeah if you know he's been drinkin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7978">TS</a>]
02:13:01 ◼ ► George Lucas Yeah and yeah like it's like you know that I'm not small expensive maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:07 ◼ ► but one of the nice things about Lord Of The Rings was so dirty it felt like they had dirt on their hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7987">TS</a>]
02:13:12 ◼ ► and they were real rocks and swords and this fella law fake in every way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7992">TS</a>]
02:13:18 ◼ ► Yeah yeah it's funny you mention that because I had the same the same feeling which again is like the Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/7998">TS</a>]
02:13:24 ◼ ► original prequels versus the later ones where I was I was really aware in lots of the big army scenes that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8004">TS</a>]
02:13:34 ◼ ► looked so C.G.I. Which is really interesting because of course the original movie used tons of C.G.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8014">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► To fill and fill in these characters but they did a much better job of mixing actual live action with overhead C.G.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► Shots to make it feel much more real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► and here is like oh i'll let me watch these two computer armies fight each other is no no interest whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:57 ◼ ► but your description of the beginning of the movie right. So here's the story of my notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8037">TS</a>]
02:14:02 ◼ ► I go into this movie and I have no expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8042">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► and I felt for I was going to say for the first half of the movie I felt like I was sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:12 ◼ ► and I just had no reaction whatsoever to anything like that like I was this empty vessel through which light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8052">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► and sound was passing and I was just I was connected to absolutely nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8058">TS</a>]
02:14:23 ◼ ► and so I have almost no notes from the beginning of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8063">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► They said I noticed a couple of things that I thought were interesting that like one this movie made no attempt to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:31 ◼ ► anybody who just showed up at this point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8071">TS</a>]
02:14:34 ◼ ► They know who they're selling these tickets to it's people who watched the first two you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:38 ◼ ► Good luck to you if you don't know who these people are the first half of that I had just no reaction whatsoever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8078">TS</a>]
02:14:43 ◼ ► And I was thinking I can give this movie a kind of mess like it made no impression on me whatsoever. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8083">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► But then but then about halfway through suddenly my notes start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► and my notes start with the line that Gandalf says about how the Orcs have this whole other second army they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8093">TS</a>]
02:15:01 ◼ ► holding back that are about to arrive. I know it says a second front approaches. Question mark. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8101">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► Oh no I thought the movie was over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:10 ◼ ► Yeah and this was exactly my feeling as like the movie suddenly turned for me where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8110">TS</a>]
02:15:15 ◼ ► I felt like it was wrapping up and I had already felt like I had been sitting there for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8115">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► And then there is there was just as much to continue sitting through with this second front of orcs that approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► and what that was supposed to be imagining what that was supposed to be like a dramatic twist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:34 ◼ ► Well so it wasn't supposed we supposed to go on on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8134">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► but I was so disengaged maybe I was the same it was just like oh OK another battle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► Yeah it was it was it was just I cannot believe that this is this is going to continue onward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► and yet they could have ended the movie right there and it would have made no difference to anything whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:54 ◼ ► and then I think which you picked up on. You mentioned it and I had a little common in my notes which was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8154">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► I can not believe that they did something which was they had not not once not twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► but thrice they had the same shot of hero on the ground big troll creature over the hero dramatically lifts hammer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► slash sword over its head to smash the hero on the ground and at the last second somebody off camera jumps on the orc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► or shoots it right you just expect it now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:28 ◼ ► Yes well no drama because you know it's going to happen so OK I don't know if I have to tell you that here here was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8188">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► thing. So they do it once OK you get one of these in a movie that's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► You know OK they did it a second time and I thought Did they forget that they already did this shot in the movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:45 ◼ ► Right they forget like this is the second troll that I've seen doing this exact same thing where someone stops at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8205">TS</a>]
02:16:52 ◼ ► Now here's the thing the third time spoilers obviously people the third time it's torn open shield on the ground who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8212">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► know perfectly well from the books is going to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:04 ◼ ► and I had a brief moment where I thought I think Peter Jackson has just done something brilliant here we have seen him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8224">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► twice the hero come from off screen to save our main character but I know thorn is going to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► and they're setting us up in this third shot and I thought man this is going to be a hell of a movie moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► If this character with his gigantic hammer just smashes Thornell can shield dead right because they've trained us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► expect someone to jump in and it's going to be really shocking when they don't. Nope nope not at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► They just view the exact same shot three times and the thing that killed me was the slow down time each time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:48 ◼ ► It's like how can you watch this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8268">TS</a>]
02:17:50 ◼ ► and not keep track of this that I found that just like for a brief moment I really did think this is going to even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8270">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► the rest of the movie is terrible. This isn't him. Anything set up that is going to work great. Now opportunity missed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8277">TS</a>]
02:18:03 ◼ ► We just have a hero save him again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8283">TS</a>]
02:18:07 ◼ ► And you know we've we've talked about this a little bit offline as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8287">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► but this movie is again an example of action scenes that just don't engage you like action scenes that have no sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:22 ◼ ► danger. There was one part I made I made a note about as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8302">TS</a>]
02:18:28 ◼ ► This is like again hundreds of of orcs and dwarves and elves and everybody's fighting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8308">TS</a>]
02:18:33 ◼ ► It just goes on and on forever with the shop where there's another wave of Orks that have just arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8313">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► and they kind of catch Bilbo off guard. Yeah and he bends down and picks up a handful of rocks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:49 ◼ ► Now Bilbo is a tiny halfling. These Orcs are gigantic and tough creatures that are wearing armor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8329">TS</a>]
02:18:56 ◼ ► Yeah Bilbo one shots for her life of the orcs with stones that he's throwing from his hands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8336">TS</a>]
02:19:04 ◼ ► and this to me is exactly the kind they like don't filmmakers understand there's no sense of danger here are these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8344">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► these creatures dangerous or can a tiny pebble thrown by what is basically a child completely kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:18 ◼ ► or knock out five of them just immediately because and we're told these are like these guys are bred for fighting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8358">TS</a>]
02:19:23 ◼ ► Yeah and but then like you know you run into the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8363">TS</a>]
02:19:27 ◼ ► and every end always the lead guy the leader of the army who runs into one of these fronts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8367">TS</a>]
02:19:30 ◼ ► and I lost I lost count of the number of times some some hero he leads the charge into a huge wall of the ambulance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8370">TS</a>]
02:19:39 ◼ ► They always go in with this old and take down fifteen or twenty of them before anyone knows what's going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8379">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► Like just to the guys in the front of these fronts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► Like do they ever land a punch or a solo or like it's just it's like yes like stormtroopers isn't always missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:55 ◼ ► and stuff I know but it's just slime but but there's there's a difference here where you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8395">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► This reasonably well and I think that the original Lord Of The Rings does a much better job with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► Where again spoilers to the Beach Boys forever I was going stop saying it but in the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► or the rings they kind of draw a better distinction between goblins which are really small and numerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► but they also kind of give you the impression that the goblins are maybe not the best at fighting cannon fodder. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:23 ◼ ► Yeah and so you can have just tons of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8423">TS</a>]
02:20:26 ◼ ► and you can much more easily accept that the goblins advantages in their numbers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8426">TS</a>]
02:20:31 ◼ ► but then you have the irq which are built up as these of the ultra super soldiers in the first movie the irq kill one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8431">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► of the major characters. That's how you establish that there's actual there's an actual threat here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:45 ◼ ► Yes there is something to be lost and when the work I show up it is always actually bad news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8445">TS</a>]
02:20:51 ◼ ► and then the Orcs are kind of somewhere in the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8451">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► But yeah this movie it's like oh are they really tough or are they not really tough it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8454">TS</a>]
02:20:59 ◼ ► when you need thousands of them to die they just die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8459">TS</a>]
02:21:03 ◼ ► When you need them to be scary they're suddenly scary it doesn't it doesn't work like that movie you have to establish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8463">TS</a>]
02:21:09 ◼ ► But I really did I felt back I laughed out loud in the theater when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8469">TS</a>]
02:21:13 ◼ ► when Bilbo is just like pow pow pow one shotting these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8473">TS</a>]
02:21:17 ◼ ► and they just they just fall over from a pebble that hits them against their clearly armored had the other saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8477">TS</a>]
02:21:22 ◼ ► was really jokey like that in a video game he was when that guy jumped in the trolley to save his kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8482">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► and rode down the oh yeah and yeah they just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► and I was barred I was barred saving his fam I just felt that there was a tremendously cheesy scene where the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► weasely the weasely guy asks ask the main character Bard you know what why are you fighting for this fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:47 ◼ ► and the camera just rotate so that his family comes right into view and I bar doesn't even like say anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8507">TS</a>]
02:21:54 ◼ ► Oh it is the weasely guy supposed to know the camera moved it just occurred here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8514">TS</a>]
02:22:00 ◼ ► And it's like oh well I guess we're doing it for my family. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8520">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► Yeah it's funny because again like the first half of the movie just left no impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:06 ◼ ► and then I suddenly have a thousand notes about things that I could not stand in the second half because it was like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8526">TS</a>]
02:22:12 ◼ ► just crossed my threshold of too long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8532">TS</a>]
02:22:15 ◼ ► Suddenly an interesting gift suddenly I have you know like it didn't I don't know how long it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8535">TS</a>]
02:22:20 ◼ ► but it didn't it was too long but I will I will agree I don't know off the top my head the running time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8540">TS</a>]
02:22:26 ◼ ► but I'm willing to bet that this was shorter than the others. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8546">TS</a>]
02:22:28 ◼ ► I did feel it did feel shorter but still still just way way over the top and I know but I'm going to hate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8548">TS</a>]
02:22:35 ◼ ► I didn't I didn't like but I didn't hate the opening sequence with the dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8555">TS</a>]
02:22:40 ◼ ► and I'm glad I kind of just dispense it was still too much but they dispensed of it reasonably quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8560">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► and I did like that and it made me like that guy who killed the dragon it made me like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:51 ◼ ► and he became my second favorite character so yeah it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8571">TS</a>]
02:22:53 ◼ ► There's some merit to that opening sequence before the opening title comes on the screen that was yes that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8573">TS</a>]
02:22:58 ◼ ► and this is this is a particular moment here as well this is another example of movies have to be different from books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8578">TS</a>]
02:23:05 ◼ ► and so on. In the book that character barred It's guess and I was unreal when I say this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8585">TS</a>]
02:23:11 ◼ ► You've been reading this whole book about the Hobbits and the dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8591">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► and the dragon flies off to go exactly town talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:19 ◼ ► and then introduces the character of Bard has barred killed the dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8599">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► and the chapter without ever mentioning him again in the space of maybe three pages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:29 ◼ ► That's the kind of thing you can possibly do in a movie you can't be like oh the dragon flies off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8609">TS</a>]
02:23:34 ◼ ► and this dude you've never heard of just kills him. Oh and then we're never going to mention him again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8614">TS</a>]
02:23:39 ◼ ► Frank you have to change things in the movie any you can get away with that in a book in a way that you just never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8619">TS</a>]
02:23:44 ◼ ► could on film. So again I'm totally OK with him being like a big character that none of this exists in the book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8624">TS</a>]
02:23:53 ◼ ► You have to you have to make changes but there are just so many so many bizarre changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8633">TS</a>]
02:23:58 ◼ ► and so many things that just go on. For ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8638">TS</a>]
02:24:01 ◼ ► That I couldn't understand it also too many people like and and too many people I don't relate to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8641">TS</a>]
02:24:06 ◼ ► It's like like I don't want to harp on about Star Wars and I know it's good to have subplots and you know intrigue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8646">TS</a>]
02:24:14 ◼ ► and even Star Wars has some plots but Star Wars does just simple wasn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8654">TS</a>]
02:24:18 ◼ ► There was a there was a young guy with floppy hair that was a bit like you and he wanted to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8658">TS</a>]
02:24:23 ◼ ► and there was a guy that was obviously bad in a black suit. He wanted to die right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8663">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► And there was a pretty princess and you wondered who was going to kiss the princess because she was pretty right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:36 ◼ ► and that was it. And like everything else was just you know and then everything stems from that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8676">TS</a>]
02:24:42 ◼ ► But watching this film to me I was like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8682">TS</a>]
02:24:46 ◼ ► So there are like five or six guys who seem to be good but a couple of more they seem to be bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8686">TS</a>]
02:24:53 ◼ ► Yeah and there's a few and that woman will form and for some reason loves that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8693">TS</a>]
02:25:00 ◼ ► Well if that was the one where she cries because he's dead get away I can I can I stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8700">TS</a>]
02:25:06 ◼ ► or you're going to have your play had to write down this dialogue word for word because it was so awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8706">TS</a>]
02:25:11 ◼ ► when her this whole love triangle does not exist in the book so this is just bizarre and I don't understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8711">TS</a>]
02:25:17 ◼ ► She says if this is love why does it hurt so much and then the Elven King says to her because it was real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8717">TS</a>]
02:25:25 ◼ ► and it's like oh my god I just felt nothing I felt nothing for anyone and it was so humorless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8725">TS</a>]
02:25:32 ◼ ► and mun Freeman was trying to be funny occasionally I guess but the film was completely devoid of humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8732">TS</a>]
02:25:38 ◼ ► and that's not a frame and strength you know I use him he could bring you know and occasionally he tried. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8738">TS</a>]
02:25:46 ◼ ► and the character in the books like Martin Freeman is excellently cast because he could pull off this kind of I'm a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8746">TS</a>]
02:25:53 ◼ ► who's in a situation that is far beyond what I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah he is under you. Used in the movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8753">TS</a>]
02:26:01 ◼ ► But there but there were a bunch of just weird moments where the movie did try to be funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8761">TS</a>]
02:26:05 ◼ ► and I thought it just it fell yeah fell flat and again it was this weird tone shift where is this movie serious movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8765">TS</a>]
02:26:14 ◼ ► You can have funny moments in a serious movie but they were just things that became oh is this comical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8774">TS</a>]
02:26:20 ◼ ► Like they had a troll Siege Engine where this troll runs up to a wall and smashes it oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8780">TS</a>]
02:26:25 ◼ ► but they have him then comically fall backwards unconscious it was it was one step away from having little birdies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8785">TS</a>]
02:26:32 ◼ ► flying around his head in a circle on on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8792">TS</a>]
02:26:35 ◼ ► when he falls over as like oh is this a dramatic scene where the wall has been breached and so I should care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8795">TS</a>]
02:26:41 ◼ ► or is this a funny moment with a troll you can't mix you can't mix those two things together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8801">TS</a>]
02:26:47 ◼ ► They seem to try and give us the funny lines to Gandalf and I'm not convinced he's very good or funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8807">TS</a>]
02:26:54 ◼ ► He's like Yeah I don't think he's very good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8814">TS</a>]
02:26:57 ◼ ► The original trilogy had given me and Haney and him leaving work and he will himself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8817">TS</a>]
02:27:02 ◼ ► There's no character in these films that pulled it off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8822">TS</a>]
02:27:08 ◼ ► but totally totally works I was just trying to look at some of my notes here of disliking things that irritate the crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8828">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► Oh OK OK OK So the final the final fight between Thor and Okan shield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:22 ◼ ► and I can't member which which anyone throws on the ice Yeah yeah yeah on the ice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8842">TS</a>]
02:27:28 ◼ ► He's a character that is mentioned in a single line in The Hobbit which is like an incidental person that they turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8848">TS</a>]
02:27:33 ◼ ► into this enormous thing and it's him and his son and I can never remember which one is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8853">TS</a>]
02:27:38 ◼ ► but anyway so the final fight between the two of them about the Defiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8858">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► or something oh yeah yeah it's so I know concealed and it's him and they're standing on this ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:45 ◼ ► and they're fighting each other. OK For some reason who knows where maybe I blinked I wasn't paying attention. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8865">TS</a>]
02:27:52 ◼ ► Suddenly our main villain is orc has this long rock at the end of a chain that he's swinging around and trying to hit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8872">TS</a>]
02:28:02 ◼ ► and it was just in this fight scene went on It felt like for five minutes of our orc trying to hit a thorn oak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8882">TS</a>]
02:28:09 ◼ ► and shield and it reminds me a little bit of like when I saw Avatar which is a movie I did not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8889">TS</a>]
02:28:17 ◼ ► and I find myself rooting for the villains to just can we just finish this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8897">TS</a>]
02:28:22 ◼ ► Until I find myself in the theater if you like can you just can you just hit him already I know he's going to die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8902">TS</a>]
02:28:29 ◼ ► Just kill him. So this can end and then it's really irritating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8909">TS</a>]
02:28:33 ◼ ► You're using a mid range weapon for close melee fight like he's he's within feet of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8913">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► and one of your arms is a giant sword and you're eight feet taller than him. Yeah just stab him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:46 ◼ ► Just stab him right there. You're within range. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8926">TS</a>]
02:28:50 ◼ ► The only reason you're using his big weapon is so that you can dramatically miss him as you slowly swing it around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8930">TS</a>]
02:28:56 ◼ ► this is you're using like a siege weapon in close combat this makes no sense at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8936">TS</a>]
02:29:03 ◼ ► and the other thing I kept thinking of there was like again this like we have no sense of the danger of anything is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8943">TS</a>]
02:29:11 ◼ ► In The Lord Of The Rings books there are not many descriptions of individual dwarves ever taking on trolls. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8951">TS</a>]
02:29:18 ◼ ► They're always doing it as an army because that's the only thing that makes any sense because he's eight feet tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8958">TS</a>]
02:29:26 ◼ ► and he's fighting a dwarf and I was thinking I bet if you took a kid who's like six years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8966">TS</a>]
02:29:37 ◼ ► and tried to train him to be the best fighter in the world and put him in armor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8977">TS</a>]
02:29:42 ◼ ► and then you you had me with a long sword versus this kid I bet I could kill that kid just because I'm WAY bigger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8982">TS</a>]
02:29:49 ◼ ► It doesn't matter how good you are at fighting if someone just massively bigger than you you're going to lose if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8989">TS</a>]
02:29:55 ◼ ► coming down to to close combat it doesn't make any sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/8995">TS</a>]
02:30:00 ◼ ► They don't the only way you can get around that is that they like Dungeons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9000">TS</a>]
02:30:02 ◼ ► and Dragons staff here is if you have amazing agility but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9002">TS</a>]
02:30:07 ◼ ► when I think of dwarves do you think of really agile creatures is that one of their fundamental characteristics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9007">TS</a>]
02:30:12 ◼ ► Obviously not if it's like that it's like a Spider-Man phenomenon Spider-Man fights villains who are massively more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9012">TS</a>]
02:30:20 ◼ ► but his primary ability is his agility to avoid blows like this is not the situation here with his with his dwarf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9020">TS</a>]
02:30:27 ◼ ► versus this gigantic incredibly strong orc loses all sense of danger it just it just means it means nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9027">TS</a>]
02:30:37 ◼ ► when like Goldfinger straps bombs to a table with a slow moving laser that's going to cut him in ten minutes rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9037">TS</a>]
02:30:43 ◼ ► than just putting a bullet in his head. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9043">TS</a>]
02:30:46 ◼ ► But here's the thing it all comes down to the movie's kind of establishing what they are and Bond movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9046">TS</a>]
02:30:55 ◼ ► At least the older ones like like with the slow moving lasers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9055">TS</a>]
02:30:59 ◼ ► They don't establish themselves as super serious films right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9059">TS</a>]
02:31:03 ◼ ► and they're getting you know they're kind of light hearted and they're kind of the kind of campy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9063">TS</a>]
02:31:09 ◼ ► And The Hobbit is just going so hard to convince you like this is a serious important movie that you can then have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9069">TS</a>]
02:31:16 ◼ ► cartoon physics everywhere if it's a serious important movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9076">TS</a>]
02:31:20 ◼ ► These things don't mix so two other two other quick things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9080">TS</a>]
02:31:25 ◼ ► but this phone you can hear for the first half of the film he's like bad he's being you know he's he's going a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9085">TS</a>]
02:31:32 ◼ ► loopy because of the evil and he's gone off the rails. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9092">TS</a>]
02:31:35 ◼ ► Yeah and then halfway through he just seems to change his mind and I realize the error of his ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9095">TS</a>]
02:31:42 ◼ ► and says actually now I'm going to be a good guy now and we're all going to hug and be buddies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9102">TS</a>]
02:31:48 ◼ ► Was there some payoff to transformation that I missed that made him go from bad to good like I didn't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9108">TS</a>]
02:31:56 ◼ ► redemption I didn't see that I didn't see the Emperor a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9116">TS</a>]
02:32:00 ◼ ► Moment where suddenly he realized the error of his ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9120">TS</a>]
02:32:02 ◼ ► and switch he does have this kind of little thing down in the vaults and then came back to him all right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9122">TS</a>]
02:32:08 ◼ ► I was worrying and import him pointless. Yeah there was no real transition like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9128">TS</a>]
02:32:14 ◼ ► OK I was making sure I wasn't texting or something and Miss No you didn't miss anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9134">TS</a>]
02:32:19 ◼ ► but my final note here time and unresolved things again a moment I kind of laughed out loud and felt bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9139">TS</a>]
02:32:24 ◼ ► but luckily there were very few people in the theater with me was after the fight that lasts for a thousand years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9144">TS</a>]
02:32:32 ◼ ► All of a sudden they're back in the Shire so Bilbo leaves and they they just flash forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9152">TS</a>]
02:32:38 ◼ ► and suddenly Oh Gandalf is dropping him off at the Shire and he's going home. I thought hey wait a minute. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9158">TS</a>]
02:32:45 ◼ ► What on earth happened to the whole point of this entire battle because the men and the elves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9165">TS</a>]
02:32:51 ◼ ► and the Dwarves had a disagreement over how the treasure was going to be a lot of hand writes right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9171">TS</a>]
02:32:58 ◼ ► when there was no there was no conclusion to this. Yeah right. They just say oh the battles over and boom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9178">TS</a>]
02:33:06 ◼ ► and there was there was no resolution to what was the actual point of the entire fight what is going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9186">TS</a>]
02:33:13 ◼ ► Do that do right do the men of Lake Town do they get money to help them rebuild. Do the elves get their gems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9193">TS</a>]
02:33:18 ◼ ► What happens with the with the dwarves who show up how does this all work for an oaken she'll do you think is the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9198">TS</a>]
02:33:23 ◼ ► under the mountain is dead. What happens to his companions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9203">TS</a>]
02:33:26 ◼ ► I know the answer because I read the book but I could not believe that they spend so much time on all of the fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9206">TS</a>]
02:33:34 ◼ ► and adding all this unnecessary stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9214">TS</a>]
02:33:36 ◼ ► and then they just they just skip what happens that sure is how it was that they haven't even thought about that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9216">TS</a>]
02:33:43 ◼ ► but you're right there was no kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9223">TS</a>]
02:33:46 ◼ ► but also a big unresolved thing is you know at the start of the Lord Of The Rings movies which presumably is thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9226">TS</a>]
02:33:53 ◼ ► years later or something. OK yeah something like that. Mike presumably we still live in a middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9233">TS</a>]
02:34:00 ◼ ► Earth where there exists a mountain that is full to the brim of like gold like this is an amazing special. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9240">TS</a>]
02:34:09 ◼ ► This is like the center of the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9249">TS</a>]
02:34:10 ◼ ► and in the low to the reduced Maisie's it's not has it has the go to Spain distributive though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9250">TS</a>]
02:34:16 ◼ ► Well yeah but you're on this earth anyway. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of legalists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9256">TS</a>]
02:34:29 ◼ ► Obviously the age thing is a problem because he clearly looks so much older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9269">TS</a>]
02:34:33 ◼ ► and I kept every time he was on screen I kept thinking Get this forty year old man off off camera because of this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9273">TS</a>]
02:34:40 ◼ ► he pops up in The Lord Of The Rings movies is this kind of fresh faced handsome guy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9280">TS</a>]
02:34:46 ◼ ► but he looked he looked old in the in the in the first Hobbit movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9286">TS</a>]
02:34:50 ◼ ► and I swear he he is really going through that transition of just being an older grown up person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9290">TS</a>]
02:34:56 ◼ ► Yeah and he just he just looks. He looks laughable on screen. Let's put that aside for a minute though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9296">TS</a>]
02:35:03 ◼ ► I'll put that to one side for a minute you know because you know the guy's getting older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9303">TS</a>]
02:35:07 ◼ ► and they want to keep the same actor you know. OK Let's let's say that's a mountable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9307">TS</a>]
02:35:12 ◼ ► Yes except for the fact that he's not mentioned at all in the original Hobbit movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9312">TS</a>]
02:35:16 ◼ ► and there's no reason to have him there. But yeah what I'm getting I guess goes like Orlando Bloom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9316">TS</a>]
02:35:20 ◼ ► But anyway find some other attractive elf dude like you who were not were not short of attractive humans in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9320">TS</a>]
02:35:28 ◼ ► Let's put that to one side I didn't even realize that but let's let's put that to one side and say you had to have him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9328">TS</a>]
02:35:33 ◼ ► The other big problem is not his appearance. It's his change in personality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9333">TS</a>]
02:35:38 ◼ ► Because he's he's not just going from an old man to a young man in appearance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9338">TS</a>]
02:35:42 ◼ ► He's going from this boring in the in the prequels he's in the hole that he's this sort of boring serious guy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9342">TS</a>]
02:35:51 ◼ ► this amazing stuff and then in the Lord Of The Rings he's found an exciting and fresh faced and like he clearly hasn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9351">TS</a>]
02:36:00 ◼ ► Saying all the stuff he's saying in the hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9360">TS</a>]
02:36:01 ◼ ► but because like in the hope he's saying he's saying stuff that would just turn you into this like you know this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9361">TS</a>]
02:36:08 ◼ ► of sad guy I guess and then he suddenly got rebooted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9368">TS</a>]
02:36:12 ◼ ► He's got a completely different personality that doesn't marry with what he's seen these before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9372">TS</a>]
02:36:17 ◼ ► Yeah it makes it makes no sense whatsoever his character arc that he's supposed to be that like young sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9377">TS</a>]
02:36:24 ◼ ► rebellious elf in The Lord Of The Rings and he's supposed to be different and he sees the world slumberous man in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9384">TS</a>]
02:36:31 ◼ ► and then he pops up again and one of the rigs these yes to hang out with he's eighteen years old and he lots of fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9391">TS</a>]
02:36:39 ◼ ► After seeing hundreds and hundreds of his comrades die you know not that long ago and the horrors of war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9399">TS</a>]
02:36:45 ◼ ► and now he can't wait to write off again. It's doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9405">TS</a>]
02:36:49 ◼ ► Now Orlando Bloom which is like this is a terrible terrible decision to have him in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9409">TS</a>]
02:36:54 ◼ ► Well I'm sorry to anyone who's listened to listen to this it doesn't say in the film one does not know let's be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9414">TS</a>]
02:36:59 ◼ ► nobody listening to this who hasn't seen it is nobody's nobody's listening to far. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9419">TS</a>]
02:37:05 ◼ ► Who hasn't seen the movie that they want to catharsis is there anything else we need to say there's a lot we could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9425">TS</a>]
02:37:11 ◼ ► but I think oh man I will look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9431">TS</a>]
02:37:13 ◼ ► and do a couple of a couple of strange points at one point do the worms pop out of the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9433">TS</a>]
02:37:21 ◼ ► and one points to remember the scene where everybody will actually look at my OK so they're pretty cool. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9441">TS</a>]
02:37:26 ◼ ► They don't exist in the books but whatever that's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9446">TS</a>]
02:37:28 ◼ ► And then what do they do they just disappeared right as far as I could tell they popped out of the ground once to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9448">TS</a>]
02:37:34 ◼ ► scary and then what I never saw them get killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9454">TS</a>]
02:37:38 ◼ ► and I think I have read the whole because that's where all the soldiers I never saw them do anything right they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9458">TS</a>]
02:37:43 ◼ ► they just there on screen to look cool just to be another piece of crap on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9463">TS</a>]
02:37:46 ◼ ► and then nothing happens with them you know that was that was terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9466">TS</a>]
02:37:50 ◼ ► Yeah this is just so so many things but that one was one like why does why does this exist here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9470">TS</a>]
02:37:55 ◼ ► I have I have no idea it's a good thing. Other minor point that I think many moo. We suffer from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9475">TS</a>]
02:38:01 ◼ ► There's no sense of place at all. How far these places from each other. Where the hell is anybody compare and contrast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9481">TS</a>]
02:38:08 ◼ ► I think it's the two towers I don't exactly remember which Lord Of The Rings movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9488">TS</a>]
02:38:12 ◼ ► but they do this thing which I love because they can just barely pull it off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9492">TS</a>]
02:38:16 ◼ ► Where at one moment a bunch of characters just literally puts a map on the table and the camera focuses on the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9496">TS</a>]
02:38:24 ◼ ► and people point to different spots on the map and describe what's going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9504">TS</a>]
02:38:29 ◼ ► and forces are coming from over here we're coming from over this way this is F R And I always love that in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9509">TS</a>]
02:38:34 ◼ ► because it's it's sort of awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9514">TS</a>]
02:38:36 ◼ ► but it's also we need this right now I need to have an understanding of where the hell all these places are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9516">TS</a>]
02:38:41 ◼ ► Yeah and this movie has has no understanding of where anything is which makes everything just even more meaningless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9521">TS</a>]
02:38:49 ◼ ► To what extent has Peter Jackson done a George Lucas here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9529">TS</a>]
02:38:53 ◼ ► and tarnished Tanishq himself I mean he hasn't he hasn't gone as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9533">TS</a>]
02:39:00 ◼ ► but has he done that has he has he undermined himself he went. That's an interesting question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9540">TS</a>]
02:39:09 ◼ ► As that it's a very interesting question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9549">TS</a>]
02:39:13 ◼ ► So I think I said in this podcast before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9553">TS</a>]
02:39:16 ◼ ► but I actually kind of hope that at some point in the future there is a redone version of The Lord Of The Rings movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9556">TS</a>]
02:39:24 ◼ ► where they update the special effects. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9564">TS</a>]
02:39:26 ◼ ► I don't know how possible that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9566">TS</a>]
02:39:29 ◼ ► but there are some shots in that movie where I thought you know what I would be OK with like a like a special edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9569">TS</a>]
02:39:33 ◼ ► version of these movies where they go back and try to clean up a bunch of stuff because there is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9573">TS</a>]
02:39:38 ◼ ► I always thought those movies were made just when they were technically possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9578">TS</a>]
02:39:43 ◼ ► but I would have loved it if those movies were delayed like a couple years because of the technology. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9583">TS</a>]
02:39:49 ◼ ► But the Hobbit movies would almost make me worry about the same team ever going back and doing anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9589">TS</a>]
02:39:56 ◼ ► And again you know I find it bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9596">TS</a>]
02:40:00 ◼ ► Saying I don't know why these are so different you know I don't even if you even if they didn't want to make it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9600">TS</a>]
02:40:05 ◼ ► three movies as we discovered last time that it was supposed to be two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9605">TS</a>]
02:40:09 ◼ ► and let's say the studio was forcing them to make it into three It does not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9609">TS</a>]
02:40:14 ◼ ► Even then the decisions don't make any sense about how the movies turned out about making them so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9614">TS</a>]
02:40:19 ◼ ► and so padded with stuff so I don't I don't know why you may have been pressuring for three movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9619">TS</a>]
02:40:26 ◼ ► but I wouldn't pressure for three long movies. Yeah like they don't they don't care how long it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9626">TS</a>]
02:40:31 ◼ ► They want three points of sale and you know you could you know cut it cut the movies down in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9631">TS</a>]
02:40:36 ◼ ► and I think you could make something better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9636">TS</a>]
02:40:38 ◼ ► One of the things that I always kind of wondered in the year for the first movies was Peter Jackson kind of came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9638">TS</a>]
02:40:47 ◼ ► nowhere and I always wondered what the story was with how the heck did this guy get hired because I look at his I.M.D.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9647">TS</a>]
02:40:54 ◼ ► Profile back in the day about what has he done before the Lord Of The Rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9654">TS</a>]
02:40:59 ◼ ► and it seemed like it was almost nothing like a couple of very small projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9659">TS</a>]
02:41:03 ◼ ► and I always I was never able to find out the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9663">TS</a>]
02:41:06 ◼ ► but I how did this guy end up getting selected for this enormous expensive incredibly important project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9666">TS</a>]
02:41:13 ◼ ► and then he amazingly did just just a phenomenal phenomenal job. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9673">TS</a>]
02:41:17 ◼ ► And that always seemed like a mystery to me and now I have another mystery of how did the same person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9677">TS</a>]
02:41:22 ◼ ► and the same team of people around him produce something so terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9682">TS</a>]
02:41:28 ◼ ► So I feel like Peter Jackson is is a bit of a mystery to me I don't understand I don't understand where he came from I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9688">TS</a>]
02:41:34 ◼ ► don't understand how he got originally selected and I don't understand how far how far he has fallen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9694">TS</a>]
02:41:41 ◼ ► Which is quite far. What do you think you think he's redeemed himself or I am baffled. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9701">TS</a>]
02:41:47 ◼ ► I'm a bit baffled because he did he didn't arrive with a lot of the Rings and maybe maybe the writing was on the road. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9707">TS</a>]
02:41:55 ◼ ► Maybe the warning signs were there in the Lord Of The Rings and make more than those battles names that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9715">TS</a>]
02:42:00 ◼ ► Just creeping on a bit too long and they're a bit too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9720">TS</a>]
02:42:03 ◼ ► and maybe we should have it live like it's like the hints in return of the jet I like the shape of things to come here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9723">TS</a>]
02:42:11 ◼ ► and it's and it's like it's almost like maybe he has this in common with George Lucas maybe he didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9731">TS</a>]
02:42:21 ◼ ► He doesn't know what was good about it and he picked the wrong thing but he doesn't get why it worked and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9741">TS</a>]
02:42:27 ◼ ► when you try to do it again he he accentuated the wrong things he thought he thought we all love those battle scenes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9747">TS</a>]
02:42:35 ◼ ► his first three and it was more we tolerated them because all the other stuff was so good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9755">TS</a>]
02:42:40 ◼ ► Say he he doubled down to use one of your favorite signings on the wrong thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9760">TS</a>]
02:42:46 ◼ ► but a nice you know he hasn't he hasn't done his and a lot of other brilliant stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9766">TS</a>]
02:42:50 ◼ ► You know I'd be pretty happy with a little rings on the say they say he's still done better than me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9770">TS</a>]
02:42:56 ◼ ► and then I will I always be always be grateful to him for the original three movies to finish with what we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9776">TS</a>]
02:43:02 ◼ ► talking it's been so somber. I feel like and we we've been complaining for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9782">TS</a>]
02:43:06 ◼ ► This may be our longest show ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9786">TS</a>]
02:43:08 ◼ ► This is our hour the battle of the five armies but not a Christmas special bumper Christmas special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9788">TS</a>]
02:43:15 ◼ ► or incredibly boring long podcast we will let the viewers decide. I mean a lot of this is already is over anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9795">TS</a>]
02:43:25 ◼ ► Go on really well and I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9805">TS</a>]
02:43:29 ◼ ► Anyway I just thought it as a slightly slightly fun thing there has been a discussion on my red hat that is related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9809">TS</a>]
02:43:35 ◼ ► the Lord Of The Rings which I have enjoyed quite a great deal which is listeners may know by now that my Reddit user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9815">TS</a>]
02:43:43 ◼ ► name is mind of metal and wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9823">TS</a>]
02:43:47 ◼ ► and this has always been a Lord Of The Rings reference this is not a I am a robot reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9827">TS</a>]
02:43:53 ◼ ► but is from one of my my favorite lines in the ratings which is a comment where Treebeard is describe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9833">TS</a>]
02:44:00 ◼ ► Being sound man and he said and he says Oh Simon has a mind of metal and wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9840">TS</a>]
02:44:05 ◼ ► and tree beard intends this as an insult but I always thought as a kid like that's a great line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9845">TS</a>]
02:44:09 ◼ ► A mind of metal on wheels that's amazing and so are you that is my Reddit user name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9849">TS</a>]
02:44:14 ◼ ► and a whole bunch of people only to realize this after I put a lot of the Rings video because I had to work that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9854">TS</a>]
02:44:20 ◼ ► in at some point in the video and I did and I think the light bulb went off for a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9860">TS</a>]
02:44:24 ◼ ► but oh that's why the Reddit name is this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9864">TS</a>]
02:44:26 ◼ ► But so anyway this led to a little discussion about there are five Wizards the five is tiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9866">TS</a>]
02:44:32 ◼ ► and there are five guys who participated in the random acts of intelligence show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9872">TS</a>]
02:44:38 ◼ ► and I think we're kind of known as a little group now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9878">TS</a>]
02:44:40 ◼ ► and so there was a big discussion about which which random acts of intelligence dude is which of the five Wizards. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9880">TS</a>]
02:44:48 ◼ ► So this is maybe Henry destine and from Derek from very Taseer Yes it is it is the five of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9888">TS</a>]
02:45:01 ◼ ► and it is a fun little discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9901">TS</a>]
02:45:04 ◼ ► I thought about who is which and it doesn't it doesn't work perfectly the characteristics don't line up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9904">TS</a>]
02:45:12 ◼ ► But so I guess I am sorry man in this situation people are in quotes like I mean I don't understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9912">TS</a>]
02:45:19 ◼ ► but I know the characters vaguely and I've seen no video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9919">TS</a>]
02:45:22 ◼ ► but people have been pretty unanimous in their classifications I don't think there's a love I going to be done here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9922">TS</a>]
02:45:27 ◼ ► people seem to agree on this. Agree on that and so there there is there is one slightly contentious point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9927">TS</a>]
02:45:33 ◼ ► Even I mean through the five hundred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9933">TS</a>]
02:45:35 ◼ ► Yeah OK Well the thing though mention about me with being sour man I think is appropriate because I have very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9935">TS</a>]
02:45:42 ◼ ► thought that were I to be tempted by the ring I would fold just immediately. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9942">TS</a>]
02:45:48 ◼ ► Well you don't like objects you don't like objects that is true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9948">TS</a>]
02:45:53 ◼ ► Right but I am I am totally just aware that one of the ways of the Rings The ring is supposed to work if evil is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9953">TS</a>]
02:46:00 ◼ ► By tempting you with the power to do good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9960">TS</a>]
02:46:04 ◼ ► Like wouldn't things just be great if you were in charge right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9964">TS</a>]
02:46:08 ◼ ► and you know you could you could start making things go your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9968">TS</a>]
02:46:10 ◼ ► and you could sort out all these problems if only you had more power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9970">TS</a>]
02:46:14 ◼ ► and I would just be completely susceptible to that argument I would not be able to resist in the slightest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9974">TS</a>]
02:46:21 ◼ ► and I would go from a normal dude to all shall love me and despair in a month. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9981">TS</a>]
02:46:26 ◼ ► OK So beings our man is about appropriate and so then the question is are there the two blue Wizards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9986">TS</a>]
02:46:34 ◼ ► and the consensus seems to be that that is Henry and Derek are the two blue with Yes And the question is for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/9994">TS</a>]
02:46:42 ◼ ► and destine who is Radagast and who is Gandalf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10002">TS</a>]
02:46:46 ◼ ► This is yeah I mean I know a bit about those two characters and I may invest in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10006">TS</a>]
02:46:54 ◼ ► and as most people seem to have put me down as this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10014">TS</a>]
02:46:57 ◼ ► Radagast and I get the impression that's because of my caveman my caveman thing I think I'm a bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10017">TS</a>]
02:47:04 ◼ ► You know and that Radagast character in the film he looks kind of caveman like cousin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10024">TS</a>]
02:47:09 ◼ ► and he's kind of rough around the edges and yeah I think it's the nature connection there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10029">TS</a>]
02:47:13 ◼ ► Yeah and and obviously destiny is you know quite wise and smart and clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10033">TS</a>]
02:47:18 ◼ ► and kind of Gandalf is the wise was one that seems quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10038">TS</a>]
02:47:23 ◼ ► but that seems like a no brainer to me I can't see how I can see how maybe people want to marry up to estimate about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10043">TS</a>]
02:47:28 ◼ ► guest because destines a man of nature but I can't see how you would marry me up with Gandalf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10048">TS</a>]
02:47:35 ◼ ► Gandalf is wise and clever and does good stuff and everyone likes him and that's not that's not quite my. My skills. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10055">TS</a>]
02:47:46 ◼ ► Yeah I was I'm glad that you coming and I don't want to I don't want to put you down you know and in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10066">TS</a>]
02:47:52 ◼ ► but being it being a Gandalf is is is quite quite the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10072">TS</a>]
02:47:56 ◼ ► and I've got to say if I have to vote I'm putting destine down as yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10076">TS</a>]
02:48:00 ◼ ► As Gandalf there I don't think I'm worthy of any of being and he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10080">TS</a>]
02:48:03 ◼ ► but if I have to be in the way we had one I'll take him. Well I would I would say I do not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10083">TS</a>]
02:48:09 ◼ ► I refuse to accept the movie betrayal of Radagast as anything to do with the actual character of Radagast so I am not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10089">TS</a>]
02:48:18 ◼ ► disavow the movie Radagast and accept only the book version of threat against which is almost entirely unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10098">TS</a>]
02:48:24 ◼ ► but just a wizard who is involved with nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10104">TS</a>]
02:48:27 ◼ ► and does not does not get involved in all of these affairs about battles so I don't see I don't want to get oh OK with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10107">TS</a>]
02:48:35 ◼ ► that. I'm not I'm not an outdoorsman but I do like their nature. Oh I didn't tell you my story. Oh yeah I am. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10115">TS</a>]
02:48:43 ◼ ► I'm just rubbish at everything in life and life I just can't manage myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10123">TS</a>]
02:48:48 ◼ ► and not for example I went away to a cottage in the country saw this week with my sister and friends and family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10128">TS</a>]
02:48:53 ◼ ► and I drove all the way back home after this week away and I realized I'd left my coat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10133">TS</a>]
02:48:59 ◼ ► and credit card back in the cottage when the mike had to go all the way back and get it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10139">TS</a>]
02:49:04 ◼ ► So anyway I went and saw the film today and then left and went walking around the shops and just wandered aimlessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10144">TS</a>]
02:49:10 ◼ ► and then went back to the car park and went to pay for my parking and couldn't find my wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10150">TS</a>]
02:49:16 ◼ ► and my wallet had fallen out of my pocket in the cinema. So such an adventure I went back to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10156">TS</a>]
02:49:22 ◼ ► I went back to the cinema and talked a lot and then I had to go back into the center and get my phone as a torch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVNIw6Y/10162">TS</a>]