00:00:03 ◼ ► So so for those who don't know Gray has just been telling me off like a schoolboy from my what is it my sort of my [TS]
00:00:11 ◼ ► microphone discipline he claims that I keep doing things to ruin his recordings. All I was asking. [TS]
00:00:17 ◼ ► All I was asking is that you don't fidget with the microphone by touching it when you're not talking [TS]
00:00:24 ◼ ► and I could see you doing it on the video camera and then you're telling me how you don't do it. [TS]
00:00:29 ◼ ► I refused to believe I do are obviously doing unconsciously I refuse to believe I ever touch this microphone in front [TS]
00:00:36 ◼ ► when you claim to have seen me do it so I will I'll be listening intently during this pod cast to see if I can catch [TS]
00:00:46 ◼ ► If I can hear it over the headphones like what are you doing right now Brady and you'll look at me [TS]
00:01:06 ◼ ► You know whatever you know how you know how we talk on the video first beforehand and then we start recording [TS]
00:01:12 ◼ ► and you switch off the video right. It kind of like freezes in the last the camera freezes for the last shot. [TS]
00:01:20 ◼ ► and you phrase it this time in the middle of you doing a big gigantic laugh at this big happiest Smiley C.D.P. [TS]
00:01:30 ◼ ► and so caring for the steering from this crew that is really key is that we can look at the whole time [TS]
00:01:35 ◼ ► and recording it is it is like OK it is so no matter what happens for the rest of this podcast I'm just going to think [TS]
00:01:42 ◼ ► you're really happy that me and everything's good. Whatever works that works for you that's great. [TS]
00:01:48 ◼ ► The funny thing is that's a complete contrast to what you really seem to be like at the moment I've been following you [TS]
00:01:52 ◼ ► on Twitter and then you've been doing nothing then when you can grumble and sigh And yeah this is I'm not. [TS]
00:02:08 ◼ ► And yes I just use Twitter as a steam vent to just release frustration whenever I'm in the middle of an animation so I [TS]
00:02:16 ◼ ► feel very badly for everyone who follows me during this time but that's that's just the way this is the way things are. [TS]
00:02:25 ◼ ► when you're animating because all of a sudden you're on Twitter all the time. That is without a doubt that is true. [TS]
00:02:32 ◼ ► If I am just like tweeting up a storm there is a very good chance I am doing something that is terribly tedious [TS]
00:02:48 ◼ ► or whatever whatever whatever you thing is you go through this period we're on animating and I can't do anything [TS]
00:02:54 ◼ ► and I'm really busy and I'm really stressed and you're a real pain in the backside [TS]
00:02:58 ◼ ► and I don't understand why this is the case because you were actually researching these videos you know you're quite [TS]
00:03:07 ◼ ► You take your time and you get everything just right and then you create this this official mad rush deadline [TS]
00:03:14 ◼ ► and that you refused to be flexible on it like I'm going to get it done I'm going to get it done. [TS]
00:03:24 ◼ ► You've told us all this stress on yourself and I know you and I occasionally there is a reason for a deadline. [TS]
00:03:34 ◼ ► but this video has no real extrinsic deadline that I'm currently working on you know what do you what this is this is [TS]
00:03:48 ◼ ► and if you must do them why do you then start animating so night if you're Mr organized well historically speaking. [TS]
00:03:56 ◼ ► I've always I've always just done exactly I'm doing now which is animating over the core. [TS]
00:04:00 ◼ ► First of two days if I'm lucky or four days if I'm unlucky to put together the video [TS]
00:04:05 ◼ ► and I think I've always partly done it all at once because I just I just hate it it's so tedious. [TS]
00:04:16 ◼ ► and at the point at which I'm animating for people to understand the work flow is like OK I write the video I record [TS]
00:04:26 ◼ ► But in my mind my brain always feels like oh once you've recorded the audio we're done now right. [TS]
00:04:31 ◼ ► You know is this is this is over and now it's not over there's actually many many hours of work to be done [TS]
00:04:38 ◼ ► and I don't know why but I've always just found it somehow easier to chunk it all together in a big push. [TS]
00:04:46 ◼ ► So it's like a really take long pulling off of the Band-Aid I am trying to condense that time it just takes a lot [TS]
00:04:59 ◼ ► but it is a pulling off of the Band-Aid it's getting rid of the unpleasurable thing as radically as humanly possible [TS]
00:05:10 ◼ ► Now it's funny that you bring it up with this one because it just so happens that I have a whole bunch of projects [TS]
00:05:16 ◼ ► going on at the moment right now and I have read a lot musky. No that's exactly it. [TS]
00:05:28 ◼ ► But so I've rejiggered some some of the way that my schedule works for making videos which I think is an improvement [TS]
00:05:37 ◼ ► but one of the things that I was I was thinking about with my work schedule is exactly this issue of God I hate those [TS]
00:05:52 ◼ ► and so I have actually been animating this video since last weekend but trying to do it on a reasonable. [TS]
00:06:00 ◼ ► All time schedule of saying OK there's going to block out like a two or two and a half hour period each afternoon. [TS]
00:06:07 ◼ ► And I'm going to try to just animate during that time to like move this part of the project forward without just [TS]
00:06:20 ◼ ► but it turns out I hate that even more that this is just a deeply deeply unpleasant experience because it feels like it [TS]
00:06:36 ◼ ► and I think the cumulative hours is actually going to be longer of like OK sitting down to animate [TS]
00:06:42 ◼ ► and kind of getting into the flow and then letting myself stop so I try to stretch it out [TS]
00:06:51 ◼ ► Part of the way that I work always that I have to kind of do the animation all in one big batch I'm not I'm not sure [TS]
00:06:57 ◼ ► that I can stretch it out in a way that makes it easier or more pleasant so I do sympathize I mean [TS]
00:07:04 ◼ ► and I might like you to but I do have animated sections in some of my videos and sometimes I do them [TS]
00:07:15 ◼ ► and is not pleasurable yet so I do it like I do yes I do sympathize with you in a gray [TS]
00:07:20 ◼ ► but the other reason I often find you have to just do it in one big whack is it kind of has a momentum to it [TS]
00:07:28 ◼ ► and it's a kind of a way I was I am what's the process for doing this and if you start to pick it up again next week. [TS]
00:07:34 ◼ ► Sometimes it's a bit like oh what was my process for doing that and how was I admire in that [TS]
00:07:38 ◼ ► and how was it working so sometimes you do it all in one big as well just because of the sort of the momentum [TS]
00:07:46 ◼ ► and the work flow of it seems to work better if you just do it while you're in the zone for lack of a less do sheet. [TS]
00:07:54 ◼ ► No I think you're totally right about that and that's one of the reasons why I suspect because I've been through. [TS]
00:08:00 ◼ ► When the whole time I've been working on this video in particular a bit like this seems to be taking forever [TS]
00:08:09 ◼ ► but I also think it is those transition costs of getting back into it OK where was I [TS]
00:08:14 ◼ ► and I mean today I'm looking at transition costs of course you would know the cool term for it [TS]
00:08:21 ◼ ► but you know what if anything any time you shift from one kind of task to another there there's a time period of [TS]
00:08:29 ◼ ► Yeah you know this famously comes from this whole notion that people think that they can multitask [TS]
00:08:35 ◼ ► when you're multitasking is that your ability to judge how well you are doing things is impacted in a negative way. [TS]
00:08:43 ◼ ► So you still think like oh I'm doing great work like just as if I was focusing on one thing at a time is like well [TS]
00:08:47 ◼ ► actually no you're your very ability to judge how good your work is is impacted so you think you're doing fine you're [TS]
00:08:56 ◼ ► But but yes every time you switch from one thing to another it takes a little while to kind of get into it [TS]
00:09:00 ◼ ► and as we have discussed before on the podcast This is one reason why I do like to batch tasks together as much as I [TS]
00:09:09 ◼ ► and similar tasks as well so if I have an unavoidable meeting on some day I will do everything within my power to make [TS]
00:09:16 ◼ ► sure that all of the meetings I may ever have in the next three week period if I can I will put them all together on [TS]
00:09:22 ◼ ► that single day meeting with my accountant and like oh and I also have a dentist thing. [TS]
00:09:27 ◼ ► and I also have to go to the bank for something can I do all three of those on one day so I can just have a day where I'm [TS]
00:09:40 ◼ ► I'm marveling at just how incredibly different we are again back on the exact opposite I'll be editing something [TS]
00:09:46 ◼ ► and then I'll be home a bit bored of this so I'm going to stop for ten minutes and do my invoicing [TS]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Any reason you say because of these kind of transition costs that I've mentioned before that I am kind of fascinated by [TS]
00:10:08 ◼ ► people like you who are able to just work all day long even if I might make fun of the particular ways in which you [TS]
00:10:27 ◼ ► but let's not pretend you know you on the lawn Musk's of the world aside everybody has even here one must I one of my [TS]
00:10:37 ◼ ► Now the truth is that I'm going to go to the gym but I mean I went to I hop instead. [TS]
00:10:55 ◼ ► I don't want people to have the false impression that I'm some kind of super productive person like I think I'm more [TS]
00:11:03 ◼ ► but I'm also really aware that I have to do a lot of this stuff to kind of trick myself into working [TS]
00:11:09 ◼ ► or to try to like squeeze the most amount of productivity out of my brain which is fundamentally lazy like you doesn't [TS]
00:11:16 ◼ ► really want to do stuff and so I think that's one the reasons why a difference between you [TS]
00:11:21 ◼ ► and me is I think that I have to think about productivity more because I am naturally much less productive than you are [TS]
00:11:34 ◼ ► and I am I'm quite envious in some ways of that fundamental trait I find an interesting statement [TS]
00:11:41 ◼ ► and it would could be a debated statement to say that you are more productive than the average person because I mean [TS]
00:11:50 ◼ ► but it is also true that you know you don't you don't you're hardly flooding You Tube videos clearly your videos are of [TS]
00:12:03 ◼ ► He's like I'm ashamed to he puts so much content so if you were to describe yourself as productive What is this product [TS]
00:12:14 ◼ ► Because other than a video every few weeks like I said a really good one but other than a video every few weeks [TS]
00:12:24 ◼ ► What do you think what do you think about us productive. There's two think there's two different things here. [TS]
00:12:29 ◼ ► Right One is the statement that I think that I'm more productive than the average person [TS]
00:12:32 ◼ ► and I think that that is in no small part simply because the average person is her wrist prickly unproductive. [TS]
00:12:39 ◼ ► What I'm saying here is that let's take an average of the productivity levels of everybody in the civilized portion of [TS]
00:12:45 ◼ ► the world. I am above that average and I'm pretty well above that average Of course yes. [TS]
00:12:51 ◼ ► when I say OK well now let's let's take a look at a different group of people like like the five of us who went to [TS]
00:12:58 ◼ ► Yeah I am definitely below the average in this much smaller group of people in terms of productivity [TS]
00:13:05 ◼ ► and as you mention many times like Destin is probably at the top of that group I would guess that of the five of us [TS]
00:13:13 ◼ ► but then again destiny is one of the most productive people probably on the face of the planet in terms of looking at [TS]
00:13:18 ◼ ► the number of things that he is able to get done. Like some people just not it not everybody can possibly be like that. [TS]
00:13:30 ◼ ► He's not only is he making loads of videos and stuff he's making humans. Yes he is. [TS]
00:13:35 ◼ ► Justin has had a baby that didn't have the baby doesn't help to make the baby yet his wife actually did all the labor [TS]
00:13:43 ◼ ► She did she she put in the work that I forgot about that I had a brief lapse in my understanding of biology there for a [TS]
00:13:52 ◼ ► minute. Yeah I just I wanted to make sure you're really clear on that. Fraid Yeah OK. So obviously congratulations. [TS]
00:14:01 ◼ ► But then he sends me the sends me text messages showing that he's at a monster truck rally and other stuff. [TS]
00:14:28 ◼ ► but this is also in no small part because people overestimate the great just because you think about productivity a lot [TS]
00:14:36 ◼ ► I do not question you are probably one of the world's leading thinkers about productivity [TS]
00:14:43 ◼ ► My comparison here is I think about me from several years ago how I first came across some of this stuff [TS]
00:14:51 ◼ ► and passed me was terrible past me just awful at getting things done in any kind of organized way. [TS]
00:15:01 ◼ ► And so that's when I think OK I think about this stuff a lot and I've tried out a bunch of stuff [TS]
00:15:06 ◼ ► and I see what works for me and I see what works what doesn't what doesn't work for me [TS]
00:15:18 ◼ ► Yeah because like any human being this is all you can do right you have to look at yourself [TS]
00:15:23 ◼ ► and say OK what state am I in now. And are there ways that I can make myself better. [TS]
00:15:29 ◼ ► You know from that perspective it doesn't even matter what the average level of anything is [TS]
00:15:34 ◼ ► and in a society it's just OK Well then can you improve yourself in some way you know you just might have a different [TS]
00:15:39 ◼ ► capability than the person next door like you know yeah yeah capacity I think it's a similar thing of like learning [TS]
00:15:49 ◼ ► and there's no other way that I think school is terrible at preparing people for real life like SPOILER ALERT schools [TS]
00:16:03 ◼ ► and school seems to be all about mitigating weaknesses whereas I think the real world is much more about amplifying [TS]
00:16:18 ◼ ► but you know you got C's in these two So let's let's put all of your effort into the two classes are you getting sees [TS]
00:16:32 ◼ ► Who cares if you don't have to be good at everything. That's how the actual world works. [TS]
00:16:45 ◼ ► and there are other things you do badly that are hurting your relationship your relationship doesn't improve by [TS]
00:16:56 ◼ ► but you're really generous with your wife you can't say well I'll just give you even more presence [TS]
00:17:01 ◼ ► and let's ignore the fact that the communication is really bad in relationships you do have to fix the weakness [TS]
00:17:09 ◼ ► when I was talking about that I was implicitly thinking about the working world I was thinking about like being self [TS]
00:17:14 ◼ ► employed. But you're right with interpersonal relationships it's different but not always. [TS]
00:17:20 ◼ ► Not always wildly different in some ways like you know you you have to accept if you're for interpersonal relationships [TS]
00:17:31 ◼ ► That's just that's just the way it is sometimes you can't always fix everything with interpersonal relationships. [TS]
00:17:38 ◼ ► I don't I just don't know how you know you're a parent you know where are we both are [TS]
00:17:44 ◼ ► and I'm not I'm not quite sure we're talking about except I don't know I just felt that just felt like [TS]
00:17:50 ◼ ► and it was a terrible much you know as I was double down on your strength people like that that that's that's the thing. [TS]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Do Yeah like with the productivity stuff with oh I guess we can go back to Ed to answer your other question about what [TS]
00:18:13 ◼ ► and I guess one of the things that I think that might just be a really slow writer compared to other people because [TS]
00:18:23 ◼ ► that's really what I spend most of the time on is actually just writing the scripts [TS]
00:18:26 ◼ ► and it's really rewriting the scripts and I've spoken to other people who do similar work or to similar work [TS]
00:18:32 ◼ ► and I think it's just that I have to do many many drafts of a video to make it better and so that takes a long time [TS]
00:18:44 ◼ ► and that for me is kind of how I'm measuring something is how much writing I was able to get done today was able to sit [TS]
00:19:00 ◼ ► So you're counting the thirty seven drafts of your script before the one that I say you're counting them as product [TS]
00:19:11 ◼ ► Yeah it's like a long time between videos because I definitely have to kill videos like there was supposed to be a [TS]
00:19:17 ◼ ► video for January that got killed at the last minute like you know what this is isn't working [TS]
00:19:22 ◼ ► and so that's why I like I don't have a video for January so that's the way I look and it's surprisingly I find. [TS]
00:19:30 ◼ ► This is get a little airy fairy but I do find creative work is just different and hard in a in an unexpected way. [TS]
00:19:45 ◼ ► but that's OK I just keep looking at your smiley face no you can't look at it look at the smiley face. [TS]
00:19:51 ◼ ► When one of the most interesting transitions in my life from being a teacher to working for myself is that. [TS]
00:20:06 ◼ ► So every class that I had to teach was like a little project every homework assignment that needed to be graded was a [TS]
00:20:12 ◼ ► little project I had a huge number of these things that I tracked in my Getting Things Done system at the time [TS]
00:20:19 ◼ ► and I got very good at being able to accomplish a very large number of very small projects [TS]
00:20:27 ◼ ► but the transition into being self-employed I now find myself in the exact reverse situation where as much as is [TS]
00:20:48 ◼ ► So any particular video is you know a six week project and maybe I'm dealing with two or three of those at once [TS]
00:20:55 ◼ ► and then as you do know I always have one big secret project going on which I spend time on as well [TS]
00:21:17 ◼ ► But yes I guess I just I have found that this transition has been more difficult than I expected in going from to a [TS]
00:21:27 ◼ ► small number of very big projects because it's not the same like with home work where I could sit down [TS]
00:21:31 ◼ ► and say OK all I have to do is marked as one homework assignment from this one class and kind of go through it [TS]
00:21:36 ◼ ► and like OK that little project is done and then look and see what the other project is like. [TS]
00:21:40 ◼ ► So yeah that's this is what the learning process has been for me is trying to get better at this [TS]
00:21:49 ◼ ► But one of the other things to a throwback to an earlier episode of ours is that I have also gotten better at not [TS]
00:22:00 ◼ ► The percent focused on work all the time life so I have been turning up the health light bulb [TS]
00:22:13 ◼ ► and I am really scruffy right now that that was the first thing you said to me when I came on air [TS]
00:22:25 ◼ ► and where you said you might be doing the Herries that I will not be doing the how is that today if we have areas that [TS]
00:22:34 ◼ ► Speaking of small projects now that we've got that little bit of light opening banter out the way shall we do with [TS]
00:22:40 ◼ ► follow up from the previous episode. Yeah I guess so I guess so let's look for it. [TS]
00:22:46 ◼ ► You seem to have you seem to have although you have not prepared well for this podcast I have done nothing to prepare [TS]
00:22:55 ◼ ► So you'd better take the lead here and tell us what you got last time you spoke about You Tube half Asiri [TS]
00:23:02 ◼ ► and oh my God it's a hard time with this half hour three I can't say it I can say it's my it's my Achilles heel so. [TS]
00:23:14 ◼ ► and I just have I did have a couple of very quick points than the first which was we had what from my perspective was a [TS]
00:23:23 ◼ ► horrifically boring conversation last time about the technical details of You Tube which was surprisingly well received. [TS]
00:23:31 ◼ ► It seems like and I have a hard time judging the stuff but going through the Reddit [TS]
00:23:36 ◼ ► and looking on Twitter it seemed like people were interested in the youtube talk I don't know did you get that feeling [TS]
00:23:40 ◼ ► I think you apologized for it so much people were just trying to talk you back off the ledge by telling you it was all [TS]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Did get me to back away from the lead so we can do this pod cast again because that last exit was so terrible. [TS]
00:24:07 ◼ ► The only little thing that I did want to mention was I was complaining about the inconsistency is with the cards [TS]
00:24:12 ◼ ► and the way they work and yes you can listen to last episode for all those fun details [TS]
00:24:27 ◼ ► and it is different on different Android devices so I got a bunch of screenshots from people showing how who the heck [TS]
00:24:34 ◼ ► knows but it's always going to look different on Android in different spots and just so just [TS]
00:24:43 ◼ ► Turns out there's an entire ecosystem where it works just randomly apparently where the cards pop up [TS]
00:24:49 ◼ ► and how they work and where you have to tap So thumbs up You Tube Well done on that. [TS]
00:25:00 ◼ ► That's exactly right the other thing is we mentioned the MC ten thirty five which really any breakfast burger sandwich [TS]
00:25:14 ◼ ► Yeah do you want to describe feedback in particular what the thing was I think within minutes of the podcast going live [TS]
00:25:22 ◼ ► pick people must've been in McDonald's when they download in the corner because within minutes of going live. [TS]
00:25:28 ◼ ► People were tweeting us pictures of ten thirty five's and themselves in McDonald's buying these things. [TS]
00:25:36 ◼ ► but I think at least thirty percent of it must work at McDonald's because every McDonald's employee on the planet has [TS]
00:25:47 ◼ ► Sup some McDonald's employees who said yeah of course we know about it so it's totally a thing [TS]
00:25:52 ◼ ► and then other ones have said there's no such things as a figment of your imagination you don't know what you're [TS]
00:25:55 ◼ ► talking about so I think McDonald's needs to get its house in order here that there's not a lot of. [TS]
00:26:01 ◼ ► Well the inconsistency that I noticed was some employees saying oh yeah we love doing the special menu items [TS]
00:26:08 ◼ ► and some people saying Don't you dare ever order those special menu items they're such a pain in the butt [TS]
00:26:25 ◼ ► or somebody who spits on your burger patty because they hate you you just don't you don't know what you're going to get. [TS]
00:26:31 ◼ ► But yes we did get a lot of feedback on that I do didn't want to give credit to James Morin who I believe was the very [TS]
00:26:37 ◼ ► first person to tweet us a picture of himself eating a mic ten thirty five while listening to hello internet. [TS]
00:26:44 ◼ ► And yes I think this must have been within thirty minutes of the podcast going live. Very impressive. [TS]
00:26:50 ◼ ► All right wrist if I was shocked at how fast it was for this person is a time traveler or [TS]
00:26:56 ◼ ► or he had a ten thirty five already on his phone. So always of the waiting or I get the. [TS]
00:27:04 ◼ ► Statistically speaking there would be someone who had to make ten thirty five this is my moment. [TS]
00:27:14 ◼ ► So yes this is the funny thing with the pod cast audience growing is it's just like there's always somebody who now who [TS]
00:27:27 ◼ ► but yeah because I kicked a cake thinking guy we've got such a jet setting audience like every single time a podcast [TS]
00:27:34 ◼ ► comes out like twenty people say I'm just about to get on a plane is a plane crash caught on like one of these people [TS]
00:27:44 ◼ ► and it's also that that's the person that you hear from right is the one who tells you all it's funny I was just stepping [TS]
00:27:52 ◼ ► when you start talking about tens of thousands of people listening someone somewhere is stepping on a plane what we do [TS]
00:27:59 ◼ ► is shatter if you will. Just into the podcast and you're not going on a plane today. [TS]
00:28:02 ◼ ► Send us a tweet of just what you want to just to say just to say hey I'm a listener [TS]
00:28:09 ◼ ► and I'm not flying on a plane today. OK Make sure to send these tweets to Brady. That's really cool D.P. [TS]
00:28:14 ◼ ► Grad from Bring out your hair and regrets he was one who suggested that. Excellent idea if you asked it to say T.P. [TS]
00:28:24 ◼ ► Gray he will be twenty years this is the policy of the show is all feedback a great tweet read [TS]
00:28:30 ◼ ► and e-mail Brady I'm saying oh they laid off all of a sudden realizing you're going to meet me for that you're going to [TS]
00:28:43 ◼ ► You've got another item here that says OK actually this actually does slide in quite nicely. [TS]
00:28:52 ◼ ► People now know that I don't follow the news who listen to the podcast for some reason people then feel compelled to [TS]
00:28:59 ◼ ► tweet news events at me as as though they're trying to keep me informed about what's going on in the world. [TS]
00:29:06 ◼ ► Sorry figured I realise you're just you're this ignorant guy and I try to help you try [TS]
00:29:10 ◼ ► but it is a cultivated ignorance ignorance on purpose it's not like oh if only there was some way I could access the [TS]
00:29:18 ◼ ► but me sitting here in my house in front of the computer with my internet connection the only thing I have access to [TS]
00:29:28 ◼ ► but people just tweet news stories at me now I go Hey I thought you should know that this is happening. [TS]
00:29:35 ◼ ► but I do not want this kind of like maybe sending in the occasional piece of a Mao that I think you should say like [TS]
00:29:48 ◼ ► and will ask for a news story that me that's a fast way to get on my list so what is going to happen there. [TS]
00:29:54 ◼ ► Let me tell you people I've got a real itchy trigger finger on that list and that's the fact. Way to get on it. [TS]
00:30:01 ◼ ► Same thing if you treat me just to let me know that you're you know not getting on a plane tree to Brady. [TS]
00:30:07 ◼ ► What's left what have you written Lahman you see this is where I want to go so people started tweeting me about some [TS]
00:30:18 ◼ ► I didn't quite get all the details I was just seeing the pictures and surely you must have known about them. [TS]
00:30:28 ◼ ► I have no I said I have no idea what you talking about that is amazing I can't believe that I know that the dress [TS]
00:30:35 ◼ ► but I don't know about the lab so it's amazing that you don't you don't know about the llamas because they happened on [TS]
00:30:45 ◼ ► or whatever you want you want to call it I was lying on a page that day saying oh well it will get to that will get. [TS]
00:30:55 ◼ ► and the funny thing was is most of the tweets were saying Oh I totally understand why you don't follow the news look at [TS]
00:31:02 ◼ ► his dumb stuff that they're covering that you know there's some guys out in Arizona trying to lasso a bunch of llamas [TS]
00:31:09 ◼ ► Everybody thought that I would agree with them about I'll look out for all of this is and I thought this looks awesome. [TS]
00:31:19 ◼ ► and I would watch that is what I got from the pictures that people were tweeting me like this look great I wish I could [TS]
00:31:29 ◼ ► So it was just it was funny to have people sending me a message where they thought I would be all like you know in [TS]
00:31:39 ◼ ► The llama story was perhaps the one story I would have been really sad if I could have. Hello Internet. [TS]
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00:33:37 ◼ ► I was in Dubai as I don't as I write as I said I said I was going there and I wasn't lying I did it and it was lovely. [TS]
00:33:46 ◼ ► I don't think people doubted that you were telling the truth about how the hell you never know. [TS]
00:33:51 ◼ ► I tell you if you ever happen to have any money in you like your wallet or your bank account [TS]
00:34:00 ◼ ► By that that place is expensive but you get you get services and goods for your money. [TS]
00:34:11 ◼ ► Well yeah you get you know you do get glasses of water for like ten bucks or something crazy crazy town. [TS]
00:34:24 ◼ ► Man the best thing about it is definitely the buildings are really impressive buildings you know that one cold is [TS]
00:34:32 ◼ ► called the Burj Al Arab is the one the say that looks like a like a sail and where I stayed was right next to that [TS]
00:34:38 ◼ ► and that was far more impressive in real life than in the pictures so you can see the picture of that sale looking [TS]
00:34:49 ◼ ► Yes the one you go to say now is the Burj Khalifa which is the tallest building in the world and that is amazing. [TS]
00:35:08 ◼ ► Things never look as real Wouldn't you get such a perfect sky I swear it looks like it's from Star Wars movie [TS]
00:35:19 ◼ ► Chorus on here it looks like it should be and chorus not it looked it looked unreal. [TS]
00:35:24 ◼ ► It looks so told you didn't believe it was real when the cars are made of glass and it was so impressive. [TS]
00:35:33 ◼ ► or whatever I was out there I did I went Well I went as high as you can go you can go to the top it was interesting [TS]
00:35:39 ◼ ► actually I kind of I kind of mucked up a bit but we went there were four of us and we hadn't booked ahead [TS]
00:35:45 ◼ ► and it turns out if you poke a head and book a certain time you can get quite an affordable ticket [TS]
00:35:51 ◼ ► but we didn't know that and I turned up and you know the communication wasn't very good [TS]
00:35:55 ◼ ► and we said no we want to go up the building and she said Oh no problem you want to go to the town. [TS]
00:36:00 ◼ ► And I think she was just saying you know I just thought she was going to go to the top [TS]
00:36:04 ◼ ► but I think to the top is like an experience or something you pay for to go higher. [TS]
00:36:09 ◼ ► Yeah we want to go to the top and then she tell us the amount of money and I kind of handed my card over and paid it [TS]
00:36:15 ◼ ► and then when we looked at how much we just paid it was like it was a lot of money. It was a lot of money. [TS]
00:36:31 ◼ ► and then I think I have to you know I have to use arrow notation that I was that was like in the IT WAS LIKE I think it [TS]
00:36:39 ◼ ► was in the hundreds of dollars like it was a few hundred dollars it was crazy money [TS]
00:36:44 ◼ ► and it was like he went off into a special room and they gave you a cuppa tea and you went up in a in a lift [TS]
00:36:52 ◼ ► but you're still in a huge group of people of like sixty people so it wasn't like it was a personal trip to the top in [TS]
00:37:00 ◼ ► But but but this experience meant you did go to the higher observation deck I think it's like twenty [TS]
00:37:11 ◼ ► Like any building that tall when you go well there was no building that tall but like the really tall buildings [TS]
00:37:16 ◼ ► when you get that high. It kind of means nothing anymore you might as well be in a plane looking down at the city. [TS]
00:37:23 ◼ ► So in that respect that wasn't the best part of it the best part of that building is completely free [TS]
00:37:29 ◼ ► and that is just saying it from all different angles and you know seeing it from far away I'm seeing it from close up. [TS]
00:37:42 ◼ ► What where do you stand on the issue of tall buildings other dreadful There are four inches I can stand tall buildings. [TS]
00:37:50 ◼ ► Yet another example of man's domination over nature and I got a look at this there was some sand and some rocks [TS]
00:38:04 ◼ ► and I'm all for super tall towers people who go to waste people are just trying to build the tallest skyscraper. [TS]
00:38:15 ◼ ► Whoever wants to build a taller skyscraper you go for it country just you know it's of course it's awesome. [TS]
00:38:22 ◼ ► I love the Shard in London and I love the similar kind of thing where you can see it from so many locations [TS]
00:38:30 ◼ ► and every time I can see it it makes me happy I just look at that guy. Mickey Mouse and I know it's so tiny. [TS]
00:38:40 ◼ ► but it's the biggest building here was actually the biggest building in the European Union. [TS]
00:38:48 ◼ ► What's wrong with Europe why don't they get their act together and build a proper skyscraper. They're falling behind. [TS]
00:38:54 ◼ ► Question was how does the tolls in Europe that's disappointing the Shard is a half a kilometer is shorter than the Burj [TS]
00:39:23 ◼ ► OK now I need for comparison I know it's taller but don't know how much taller with the Empire State Building. [TS]
00:39:36 ◼ ► No web site I don't know the Empire State Building has an auto playing You Tube video on so classless. [TS]
00:39:43 ◼ ► Why jump Why do you just want to look at Pavia list of buildings which has great resources on buildings. [TS]
00:39:49 ◼ ► Yeah I know you know you know why it's just I was trying to Duck Duck Go This is the first linked article not super [TS]
00:39:55 ◼ ► impressed. Uneven are you talking about much. Duck Duck Go is another. Alternate search engine that. [TS]
00:40:10 ◼ ► when I go exactly what I'm doing right now this is because it really is as I said my the fourth search engine to Duck [TS]
00:40:16 ◼ ► Duck Go and I search for something as I why these results are crappy All right now I type in Google [TS]
00:40:21 ◼ ► and so I just added an additional step to my life here so the the tip of the Empire State Building is I was not that [TS]
00:40:33 ◼ ► The Empire State Building separate Skule facto Empire State blue Empire State Building [TS]
00:40:38 ◼ ► or some They're building at their building a kilometer Hiwatt now in Saudi Arabia I think are really giving it the only [TS]
00:40:44 ◼ ► hope and know it so you can read all about it I spent ages reading about it the other day I think it's in Jeddah. [TS]
00:40:53 ◼ ► but I have stout of it it's a way I think Bill Wells tallest building coming to Saudi Arabia. [TS]
00:40:59 ◼ ► I follow skyscraper news on Twitter I don't I haven't seen this. I'm disappointed. [TS]
00:41:05 ◼ ► A skyscraper in your case it is a skyscraper a news account on Twitter they just sometimes they just post awesome [TS]
00:41:15 ◼ ► Yeah they often have news about what's going on in the world of skyscrapers so I follow it [TS]
00:41:20 ◼ ► We're building more massive structures are more more more monuments to man's domination over nature. [TS]
00:41:27 ◼ ► Thumbs up let's do that and look at all these pictures called Empire State Building [TS]
00:41:39 ◼ ► and the other any other toll once you pay not to say and tell us that you know I saw them get hit by lightning [TS]
00:41:45 ◼ ► when I was there but I realize that's pretty common across like all biologists by lightning but I think every man [TS]
00:41:50 ◼ ► and his dog has a photo of people a lot in a second. I think it's rarer to go to Toronto or not see it by lightning. [TS]
00:42:00 ◼ ► So it does have that has the best glass floor of it on the way you like step on the glass floor [TS]
00:42:15 ◼ ► and I think you can think of anything else it's been taller after I had have you been up to see it was the Sears Tower. [TS]
00:42:24 ◼ ► No I've never been up to the one in Chicago which is it supposed to be called the Willis Tower now that's the actual [TS]
00:42:33 ◼ ► Sorry whoever you are Willis It's just is not going to happen so I'm trying to make Willis happen you know it's never [TS]
00:42:43 ◼ ► When I was growing up it was the tallest building in our life which has since been surpassed. [TS]
00:42:48 ◼ ► when I was growing up the top was good he had like this I think it's called the Grenfell tower it's just a black building [TS]
00:42:53 ◼ ► which is probably I'm guessing. Fifteen to sixteen stories I like something ridiculous. [TS]
00:43:01 ◼ ► Yeah but like I said on the Adelaide skyline it was this dominant thing and when your little guy [TS]
00:43:09 ◼ ► Day I lived in the suburbs but you would say it like when you were driving towards the city or driving around [TS]
00:43:16 ◼ ► and I had this nickname the black stump because it is that like a big black stump somewhere [TS]
00:43:21 ◼ ► and it was always my dream to like being near it will go inside like it was amazing amazing thing. [TS]
00:43:40 ◼ ► And by that time it's funny a lot of the myths like the mythology of what was gone unlock it was not special to me in [TS]
00:43:48 ◼ ► and yet whenever I switch into the childhood memory mode it becomes really magical again market does that make sense. [TS]
00:44:00 ◼ ► Right at UP me is not the adult you find entirely unimpressed. Yeah but the child inside you still love that guy. [TS]
00:44:08 ◼ ► I'm the kind of that I want to look at the black stump that I should search for Port Adelaide and black stuff [TS]
00:44:17 ◼ ► Adelaide black stump get a Facebook band called Black Stump Grenfell Center was the first result. [TS]
00:44:24 ◼ ► I'm going to say if you're going to see now I've got to go to Google. Sorry Dr. It's not coming out. [TS]
00:44:49 ◼ ► Are you ready are you ready for the building that as a boy blew me away. Are you ready. [TS]
00:44:55 ◼ ► Going to send it to you here on the i Message here listen this is my fantasy building as a boy. [TS]
00:45:27 ◼ ► For me it was so imposing it was like this it was this moment it was like the Darth Vader of the skyline it was the [TS]
00:45:33 ◼ ► and yeah just trying to I'm trying to looking at Adelaide I was the apple doesn't have Adelaide in three D. [TS]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Sorry Adelaide I guess I'm not important enough for Apple to fly planes over you so I could get a sense of this [TS]
00:45:48 ◼ ► building. Well anyway the picture is hilarious. Complex stamps. Yeah that's that's not that's not super impressive. [TS]
00:46:03 ◼ ► Can we all know that high I don't even think it's apartments I think it's like business suites and things like that. [TS]
00:46:10 ◼ ► It's got a real mixed use. It's going to hotel and it's got my Mounty hotel and it's got a commendation. [TS]
00:46:20 ◼ ► and a lot of the stuff above the observation decks are also like like functional like maintenance [TS]
00:46:33 ◼ ► but if I had infinite money I would buy an apartment at the top of the Shard I absolutely love that building [TS]
00:46:46 ◼ ► I should put that into like a peach tree on goal if if I can end up getting a million billion dollars per video I will [TS]
00:46:52 ◼ ► buy myself a nice apartment. That was eco then maybe it funny let me say your apartment as well. [TS]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Yeah that yeah I'd invite you over if I had if I had an apartment in the Shard I would invite you over I would invite [TS]
00:47:06 ◼ ► You'd still be alive now and I'm still working on it and getting it right not that it's not ready for visitors. [TS]
00:47:18 ◼ ► I downloaded all the floor plans and details about them when the Shard was first going up [TS]
00:47:22 ◼ ► and I'm glad I did because they were good to have all that information once they sold the verb million dollars [TS]
00:47:33 ◼ ► Yes the other heist to steal the apartment in short I think you know to steal with a diamond that's kept in there [TS]
00:47:41 ◼ ► and the secret map right here in your secret maps the secret map that reveals the location of the diamond right. [TS]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and you know where they can find out that secret diamond is going to get the secret map I do not now know to offer the [TS]
00:47:58 ◼ ► black stump. I wonder if there's anybody listening to this podcast in the black stump right now oh my goodness. [TS]
00:48:11 ◼ ► and take a photograph of yourself in front of the Black stop I will read that definitely [TS]
00:48:17 ◼ ► and I will I will heavily pressure greater rate wait it out should be well after I'm going to hear about the event if [TS]
00:48:27 ◼ ► but you've got to it's got it you've got to be it's going to be like a contemporaneous picture so you have to be [TS]
00:48:37 ◼ ► and I used to work for the ad that advertisers say I'm just also helping out with circulation because the circulation [TS]
00:48:43 ◼ ► of plus one. Yeah but you know newspapers got to take whatever they can get these days. [TS]
00:48:52 ◼ ► Yuri and Yuri and I may even follow you for that. And you're really really going all in on this. [TS]
00:49:00 ◼ ► Yeah I don't I still don't know if someone is inside the building right now listening to it really free time [TS]
00:49:05 ◼ ► and yet I mean that's that's that's ridiculous if that's happening then you're the person [TS]
00:49:12 ◼ ► and her name is Sarah that's going for freaked out right now you know will be even freaky is if someone is [TS]
00:49:37 ◼ ► and now you are in San Francisco I believe as I am I am speaking to you from my video room at the Mathematical Sciences [TS]
00:49:54 ◼ ► You say that more than maybe because I think it's a funny phrase I don't know why. [TS]
00:50:09 ◼ ► The this I want to show you a few stories like they're very they're they're pretty humble brag. [TS]
00:50:24 ◼ ► but they're also they also just interesting social situations that happens as a result of making You Tube videos [TS]
00:50:31 ◼ ► and I want to see how you would have reacted or what suggestion do you have in these situations. [TS]
00:50:43 ◼ ► I don't get recognized to hold up you know partly because you know. Now video isn't that popular. [TS]
00:50:53 ◼ ► Right so you know I don't think I have a particularly recognizable face but I mean enough of them [TS]
00:51:03 ◼ ► and that was especially likely if I meet somewhere where there's a very high concentration of nerdy people I don't mean [TS]
00:51:12 ◼ ► But yeah for a while my dad was watching a number of file videos and he thought that you were James Graham [TS]
00:51:19 ◼ ► and he was very he was very confused for a little while a few people think that because James was in so many of the [TS]
00:51:29 ◼ ► Yeah I guess they know that Grace doing a podcast with a guy that makes number five so writing in there as it might my [TS]
00:51:40 ◼ ► and the way he looks just don't don't match up at all it took me a long time to figure out that he wasn't talking about [TS]
00:51:46 ◼ ► and I care very much so I wonder if many people one of James has people come up to him saying you Brady Haran. Anyway. [TS]
00:51:56 ◼ ► but it does occasionally happen if I'm somewhere where there's a lot of nerdy people. [TS]
00:52:02 ◼ ► when I'm lurking around math department buildings economics buildings at a place like Berkeley. [TS]
00:52:07 ◼ ► Yeah I would say like Berkeley might be an epicenter for nerds like nerd flux density is quite high. [TS]
00:52:21 ◼ ► People do this more often than you think. They come up here and they say your Brady Haran. What do you say to that. [TS]
00:52:42 ◼ ► Like like it's not because that would be fair enough because you know I think maybe you look a bit like that [TS]
00:53:06 ◼ ► And so other than just the two of you just walk away at that point that would then they just stand there [TS]
00:53:14 ◼ ► and then I usually say something like who you are what you name and I start and then questions about themselves [TS]
00:53:19 ◼ ► and like suddenly there's a complete and utter stranger who I'm like asking all about themselves [TS]
00:53:25 ◼ ► and that Anyway I don't think that's a good conversation starter to walk up to someone to just tell them what their [TS]
00:53:33 ◼ ► But yet that doesn't I would not receive that well yeah I don't mind I love you know it's rare enough that I actually [TS]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and it's nice to make someone who you know watch the videos because they are really important to me. [TS]
00:53:55 ◼ ► and it's not a criticism of the people who say it's just a I don't know I don't know what I. [TS]
00:54:07 ◼ ► I think I think asking if I'm if I'm Brady is a good thing to ask because you know you can you can never be sure it's [TS]
00:54:29 ◼ ► but that doesn't seem like it's much better because then you say yes I am which is the same response that you've [TS]
00:54:37 ◼ ► but then I feel like the onus is back on them like a conversation then goes on to them because now they've had their [TS]
00:54:45 ◼ ► information confirmed it's time for them to like ping pong. They serve you hit back and now if you call them a whore. [TS]
00:54:55 ◼ ► Anyway this is a minor quibble I had a I had a more interesting one happened to me that a couple of days after [TS]
00:55:01 ◼ ► and there's a little shuttle bus that runs from the center of the university campus into town it's probably a five [TS]
00:55:06 ◼ ► minute drive. I got on this bus and this this guy he like he looks at me quizzically. [TS]
00:55:18 ◼ ► And obviously most likely from the videos because we don't know each other personally but it gives you that look [TS]
00:55:22 ◼ ► when you look at someone like I know I know that person and he squints intense he's headed it sideways [TS]
00:55:28 ◼ ► and I'm thinking OK he's either now just going to ignore me or he's going to come up and say you already have it. [TS]
00:55:35 ◼ ► Anyway I sit and I have no way to say it other than basically next to him by one say it with an empty seat between us. [TS]
00:55:42 ◼ ► There's something that's going to happen here and he looks over at me again and and then he turns to his girlfriend [TS]
00:55:51 ◼ ► Last supercell you know well well they're not particularly sober but then then he pulls out his phone. [TS]
00:56:00 ◼ ► Unlike starts calling up a lot of my videos and like Googling me and looking for pictures of me [TS]
00:56:08 ◼ ► I despair and it's really really awkward because I don't know what I'm supposed to say. [TS]
00:56:14 ◼ ► Now I can't look at him because if I look at him I'm really curious I want to see what videos he's looking at [TS]
00:56:19 ◼ ► and what pictures he's found because I'm just curious but I can't look because if he then looks at me [TS]
00:56:26 ◼ ► Analogy is really awkward it was asking lightly awkward before that so I'm kind of now just kind of looking away [TS]
00:56:33 ◼ ► but because I'm a bit curious I'm trying to have sneaky glances at my phone to see what he's looking at [TS]
00:56:38 ◼ ► and then he's having sneaky glances back at me to see if like I am like you know the guy right here he's holding up he [TS]
00:56:45 ◼ ► holding up a picture of you and I think he's trying to be subtle about it as well but I've clocked what's going on [TS]
00:56:59 ◼ ► but I don't know what part of me thinks you know because I can and Ted him and say Yes yes it's me. [TS]
00:57:07 ◼ ► But also because then what if I did that and he that's not what he was looking up or like [TS]
00:57:11 ◼ ► or he was just checking if he's alive it is body hair and I hate that guy he's such a task. [TS]
00:57:20 ◼ ► So I say I don't know what to do something and then like and then not the bus trip comes to an end [TS]
00:57:28 ◼ ► or I should go slowly to give him a chance to say hello because you know I'm not people saying hello like I said. [TS]
00:57:35 ◼ ► Then he's put his phone back in his pocket and he watched me go off and but never did anything. [TS]
00:57:40 ◼ ► If you're that guy that was on the bus say hello next time say hello I don't mind. [TS]
00:57:48 ◼ ► I was I once I once got on a plane with my wife and I I like the window I say Sorry sir [TS]
00:58:00 ◼ ► My wife usually lets me have it so I had the window I say and then she had the one next to me [TS]
00:58:03 ◼ ► and then the guy on the aisle. Well OK the window seat is better if it's between the window seat in the middle seat. [TS]
00:58:10 ◼ ► Obviously the window seat is better. Yeah yeah OK I didn't realize that was the comparison here. [TS]
00:58:14 ◼ ► So that when they say she had the middle one and there was a third one and the Goddess and the I O. [TS]
00:58:21 ◼ ► Like just the plane was started to take off. Leaned over and said and he and Brady Haran. [TS]
00:58:34 ◼ ► or something for he spent the whole flight talking talking to me over and I thought I think. [TS]
00:58:48 ◼ ► Just like most of love that I think what happened I think she pretended to be asleep. So yeah. [TS]
00:58:57 ◼ ► Anyway one and one other quick thing that can happen as a result of doing the job that we do [TS]
00:59:07 ◼ ► I didn't get your advice on what I should have done the bus and sense that you have none. [TS]
00:59:16 ◼ ► What would you do if the person sitting next to you on a bus was Googling what to see G.P. [TS]
00:59:20 ◼ ► Going to look like and looking for pictures of you and things like that instead of watching your videos [TS]
00:59:24 ◼ ► and I would almost certainly just get off the bus no matter where the stop was that's that's what I would do if you [TS]
00:59:30 ◼ ► have a car going to avoid this situation as fast as possible and I know that I know that you are Mr O. [TS]
00:59:37 ◼ ► How do you know you're very friendly guy and you want people to come up and say hello to you [TS]
00:59:41 ◼ ► and I am not that person that it is not that I don't appreciate having an audience of people who might know me [TS]
00:59:51 ◼ ► If I'm out and about in the world I am rarely receptive to strangers coming up and saying hello to me [TS]
01:00:01 ◼ ► and you don't know who they are I just would not presumably you'd never get that other than something that is that it [TS]
01:00:08 ◼ ► is known you are going to be at. Like if it's not an event that it's known say G.P. [TS]
01:00:12 ◼ ► Guys they're like random acts or some You Tube environment presumably you don't get that in the straight. [TS]
01:00:17 ◼ ► Yes I am I am fortunate enough that I have never had someone just randomly come up to me [TS]
01:00:27 ◼ ► However since we have started the podcast in particular there have been a few scenarios where I am pretty sure that [TS]
01:00:33 ◼ ► someone is trying to place my voice Where are just just like you said you can see when someone's looking at you [TS]
01:00:42 ◼ ► Yeah I have occasionally like you know getting a coffee or at a restaurant or something [TS]
01:00:54 ◼ ► or if they have if they have been able to place it they just pretend that they happened which is like oh what a relief. [TS]
01:01:06 ◼ ► I've mentioned before like I have to spin up a certain part of social part of my brain for this pod cast [TS]
01:01:19 ◼ ► I had one other minor problem and another of these first well you cheapen problems [TS]
01:01:25 ◼ ► and this is one that has done me more about how famous you are. I cannot emphasize how rare this is like it's not. [TS]
01:01:44 ◼ ► I use the Twitter up on my siren for which you can judge me in condemning whatever [TS]
01:01:51 ◼ ► and there are certain things about the Twitter app that that that I don't like that much about the design [TS]
01:02:01 ◼ ► Luke and I followed someone who was just a viewer or someone who had probably had acted male made some comment [TS]
01:02:10 ◼ ► and was in a list of people I was looking at and I had accidently followed this person. [TS]
01:02:22 ◼ ► when looking at someone's profile to accidentally hit the follow button you don't even have to be looking at their [TS]
01:02:28 ◼ ► You just could be looking at that tweet and start following them I think really without them [TS]
01:02:33 ◼ ► but yeah I know what to talk about it in anyway many of my dealings I've done on a daily [TS]
01:02:37 ◼ ► or it's too easy to accidentally click and I follow it like oh no I just I just want to see who this person was. [TS]
01:02:52 ◼ ► Basically along the lines of Oh my God I can't believe number files following me this is the best thing that's ever [TS]
01:02:57 ◼ ► happened to me and they were really really deeply happy and they made this happiness very very public [TS]
01:03:05 ◼ ► and very they really carried on about it. What do I now do what you want to follow them. You can't. [TS]
01:03:11 ◼ ► That's almost like that's that's almost like someone coming I was saying it's nice to meet you [TS]
01:03:15 ◼ ► and punching them in the face you cut and follow someone immediately after they've said OK then you mute them forever. [TS]
01:03:26 ◼ ► Well my actual advices you on follow because if you don't you didn't want my actual advice [TS]
01:03:36 ◼ ► and so I would suggest you mute them forever so if you actually followed some schoolgirl that love C.D.P. [TS]
01:03:42 ◼ ► Great videos and cheer Oh my God I'm so happy for me he's my biggest educational hero and he chose to follow me [TS]
01:03:48 ◼ ► and this is maybe really happy and my puppy dog died yesterday but everything's OK now because they followed me. [TS]
01:03:55 ◼ ► You would then go oh I didn't realize I'd done that. Oh I like this scenario. So it was really good. [TS]
01:04:22 ◼ ► and at least once someone has commented to me they said something like That's really weird C.D.P. [TS]
01:04:28 ◼ ► Go followed me for three minutes or so and that has happened but not not was like oh my puppy dog just died [TS]
01:04:39 ◼ ► and I'm not going to have this person on my Twitter timeline forever that's for sure and even if you mute them [TS]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and so what I have to always pass over I go right here the guilt trip that I'm going to just live with for the rest of [TS]
01:04:56 ◼ ► the time that I have a Twitter account. Now eventually they're going to get unfollowed. That's the way that works. [TS]
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01:07:05 ◼ ► and that is plane crash going to hang on this. This calls for an opening of the can of Dr Pepper. X. In this ep. [TS]
01:07:18 ◼ ► Difficult a playing card is brought to you by Dr Perper what is with the Dr Perper they do I not know about the [TS]
01:07:29 ◼ ► Yeah I was hoping you would find that I thought that was subtle enough but surprisingly it was not. [TS]
01:07:38 ◼ ► Living makes me worry about you opening up the can of generic brand name soda isn't real like you're really you're [TS]
01:07:45 ◼ ► really settling in for the long haul. That's exactly right. Let me pull up a chair let me pull my put my feet up. [TS]
01:08:00 ◼ ► If I'm going to light a pipe and have a red setter sitting by my feet. Right right. [TS]
01:08:08 ◼ ► I didn't want to do a plane crash corner and I didn't want to do one last episode either until you stole it. [TS]
01:08:14 ◼ ► I did not steal it. It was still your plane crash corner. I promise you I will never mention it again. [TS]
01:08:24 ◼ ► and also it's I think people need to realize like if a plane crashes that doesn't automatically mean we can talk about [TS]
01:08:31 ◼ ► Like that's not what we do we're not like you know we're not like the pod cast of record for plane crashes [TS]
01:08:48 ◼ ► and I'm going to bring up each of them hopefully with some kind of reason to bring them up other than just to say they [TS]
01:09:06 ◼ ► The reason I want to bring this one up isn't because of the plane crash because of weather [TS]
01:09:22 ◼ ► and it's could not be any more different from the American experience I'm having here in San Francisco where every day [TS]
01:09:32 ◼ ► Shirts and all these people are meeting here at the mass Institute has just flown over from the East Coast [TS]
01:09:40 ◼ ► and this is an amazing thing about America that not many other countries I think have this incredible like diversity of [TS]
01:09:53 ◼ ► and Especially California weather is amazing gray but it is really good every day. [TS]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Californian in the world make sure that everybody from New York knows about. Let let let's tell you about our weather. [TS]
01:10:08 ◼ ► Everyone from California will always tell you about the weather is a true thing that I like. [TS]
01:10:16 ◼ ► And Mike I'm amazed at the weather and I said to the taxi driver Well I was not a great day today [TS]
01:10:20 ◼ ► and they'll look at me like an idiot because it's just like that every day like oh my goodness the sky is blue [TS]
01:10:31 ◼ ► Now it does and today was actually quite a bit overcast but but even San Francisco is really good [TS]
01:10:37 ◼ ► and San Francisco is the bad weather of California right. Yes that's the worst part as far as I can here. [TS]
01:10:46 ◼ ► when you have a country that spans a continent there's different weather that was yelling out yeah I just thought you [TS]
01:10:52 ◼ ► That's really interesting I was I was one of two hundred two years I'm trying to go through each plane crash [TS]
01:10:58 ◼ ► and have another point to make about other than a plane crash happened. OK work with me. [TS]
01:11:09 ◼ ► I guess my question is did the the guard is the airport that is right on the water. [TS]
01:11:15 ◼ ► How close is this private plane to going into the water because I was alone in and out of La Guardia a lot [TS]
01:11:21 ◼ ► and that's that's. Clutch put your seat when you're landing kind of airport I mean those runways are crazy. [TS]
01:11:27 ◼ ► Right on the edge you know you're a that's a lie one of them I do not want to know that California has great weather [TS]
01:11:33 ◼ ► which I've never heard before. So are you saying you want more about the crash itself. [TS]
01:11:43 ◼ ► It is progress as a joint venture and I'm trying to ask follow up questions and trying to find a picture of it now. [TS]
01:11:49 ◼ ► I can't remember what happened. People can look at the picture. Let's not get let's not get bogged. [TS]
01:12:00 ◼ ► But any plane crash the next one is a similar incident I think it was a Turkish client I'm not even listening to lining [TS]
01:12:11 ◼ ► There was a Turkish plane that also had a coming off the runway no one dead crashed at Katmandu which is always of [TS]
01:12:20 ◼ ► interest to me because of how much I love the Poland having gone to Katmandu Airport many times so many flights to go [TS]
01:12:26 ◼ ► and the reason I'm bringing this one up is I'm imagining is it is another dent at my attempts to get you to one day [TS]
01:12:38 ◼ ► Well I think this is so far out of the realm of my consideration I didn't even realize this is a campaign of yours. [TS]
01:12:45 ◼ ► Well it's early days. It's very early days but I'd love to I'd love to get some of you guys to come down to base camp. [TS]
01:12:51 ◼ ► Spoiler alert there's never going to happen in a million years is absolutely impossible. [TS]
01:12:56 ◼ ► I can't conceive of any reason I would ever go to base camp in the fall. It's very far away. [TS]
01:13:08 ◼ ► There's some decent ones on the way they do the last minute on the way there is very different from their journey you [TS]
01:13:18 ◼ ► but I don't have to be in green ones any nights now there is a price to be paid for saying amazing things are you not willing [TS]
01:13:38 ◼ ► and you say no no I'm not I'm not that's not that's not actually what I'm trying to do. I said I was a traveler. [TS]
01:14:15 ◼ ► I'm actually I will at the end of this month be going on a trip and I'm going to be going to Las Vegas. [TS]
01:14:21 ◼ ► That will probably be a great experience. If you want to come to Las Vegas with me sometime. That would be great. [TS]
01:14:34 ◼ ► and a hot dog in Las Vegas you know going to remember that you have a great time and you're right to do it [TS]
01:14:47 ◼ ► and I've even seen it from you if you get dragged out of your comfort zone it's good for you you enjoy it you just need [TS]
01:14:58 ◼ ► and yeah i knowledge that you don't want to spend every every single day just living like oh boy everything is just [TS]
01:15:05 ◼ ► You do need stuff that that's different but in the fall is a big ask I'm going to fly to Nepal. You know I don't. [TS]
01:15:15 ◼ ► and you know that I imagine that you have to take the tiny planes like the one that almost killed you [TS]
01:15:22 ◼ ► and I didn't almost killed me it was fine. It it did Q so brightly that we're not lighter right. [TS]
01:15:42 ◼ ► and I think that the Paul is one of the ones it's probably the you're not going to get some good bang for buck out of [TS]
01:15:52 ◼ ► and they are going to ask us to come along see that more convincing of everybody going except me that is like. [TS]
01:16:00 ◼ ► No I guess I'm just a sad monkey who's sitting at home that's a bit different if that's the case [TS]
01:16:05 ◼ ► and I say yeah I see my in anti-Semitic I just need to get some people you like more than me you know it's not that I [TS]
01:16:22 ◼ ► I was like oh OK there's more people here now there's more of a reason to go what if what if I can convince your wife [TS]
01:16:30 ◼ ► to come with me. We then come to you who would never forgive my wife to get with you. [TS]
01:16:39 ◼ ► So yeah I think I think she seems like a good sport there is no way you would get my wife to go with you to Nepal. [TS]
01:16:59 ◼ ► and my wife are travelling to Nepal together on your own is also a situation was like well I'm probably going to stay [TS]
01:17:05 ◼ ► back here and file the divorce papers. I think I don't think this is this is a good strategy either. [TS]
01:17:13 ◼ ► It will come back to this I'm going to sound like I'm going to do some negotiating with the other guys to get me there. [TS]
01:17:23 ◼ ► Yeah yeah but I shouldn't have said that this is going to hear that nonstop organizing I know [TS]
01:17:29 ◼ ► and you hear that within twenty minutes here with a book till the floods and everything. [TS]
01:17:32 ◼ ► I've spoken to I've spoken to a guy base camp and he said he can organize a Swiss. [TS]
01:17:37 ◼ ► Yeah hell I don't have one of those companies that set up gigantic tents for outdoor events like other already flying [TS]
01:17:43 ◼ ► government there are five ninety Sherpas right now though it's going to be a plane crash corner now we don't I said [TS]
01:17:53 ◼ ► and that's to add for the stone of the fifty piano in there you know if you're right I just sort of. [TS]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Worth mentioning that because of the I think it's the one year anniversary of this M H three seventy. [TS]
01:18:05 ◼ ► Malaysia Airlines disappearing plane thing that put a Malaysian government put out their big report on it today [TS]
01:18:14 ◼ ► and you can read it and a great link to it in the show nights and I would recommend not reading this one. [TS]
01:18:21 ◼ ► What I put in the show notes if you don't even recommend reading it just yeah OK it's a bit boring. [TS]
01:18:27 ◼ ► They don't do as well as N.T.S.B. They have this to the masses of the plane crash reports say.. [TS]
01:18:33 ◼ ► But it's worth maybe it's worth reading so that you can compare their style of plane crash reporting to the N.T.S.B. [TS]
01:18:40 ◼ ► I just have to I just have to interject here. Yeah I love that you love this stuff. [TS]
01:18:44 ◼ ► I just I just want to be clear on this. He couldn't stop looking at going is not my favorite section. [TS]
01:18:55 ◼ ► You know what we have is it going to be like the style of this one is not of good will be like you know nothing [TS]
01:19:11 ◼ ► and government organizations sterilize language and you know police were always the master of it [TS]
01:19:17 ◼ ► and you want to get a cool quote from a policeman via a newspaper article. And instead of saying you know I say. [TS]
01:19:25 ◼ ► The alleged offender decamped in an easterly direction instead of saying the burglar ran away that way [TS]
01:19:31 ◼ ► and plane crash plane crash reports are really good that they are really good at sterilizing things that are completely [TS]
01:19:46 ◼ ► Report and I don't think they quite correct it and value little procedure not to link it them. [TS]
01:19:52 ◼ ► I did read something about that crash today actually that made me wonder what you would think [TS]
01:20:04 ◼ ► and of course we can understand why they would believe this that maybe the plane was hijacked and taken to an island [TS]
01:20:09 ◼ ► and everyone still alive and they're being held ransom or something and I know that's really impossible. [TS]
01:20:16 ◼ ► But worst ransom ever. If nobody hears about it. Yeah of course there are terribly organized. [TS]
01:20:22 ◼ ► You can see has someone clings to clings to hope if that if a loved one of yours was on the plane that went missing I [TS]
01:20:46 ◼ ► But this is exactly the kind of situation that is very difficult to be rational under so yeah I can I can easily [TS]
01:20:54 ◼ ► imagine that that I would irrationally cling to an incredible long shot because that's just that's a very human thing [TS]
01:21:05 ◼ ► So you know it's it's a it's like hypothetical situations it's super easy to give the correct answer [TS]
01:21:19 ◼ ► and losing a loved one in an ambiguous way definitely counts as a very different difficult circumstance that you can't [TS]
01:21:29 ◼ ► Last plane crash and I I'm really just praising this one to see if you heard about it you know I heard about all this. [TS]
01:21:36 ◼ ► Yeah I know about this one this is the fourth one I have that this was impossible to miss on Twitter. [TS]
01:21:42 ◼ ► Hell Hal had it up to it because you've been on Twitter a lot lately say certainly have you have now I saw a bunch of [TS]
01:21:48 ◼ ► people even tweeting me about this one but all you have to mention the Harrison Ford did you then go [TS]
01:22:03 ◼ ► but you find this is amazing to me though that you know this happened someone said to you. [TS]
01:22:14 ◼ ► You're like Indiana Jones I'm imagining you like Blade Runner you know this is this is an actor of some import. [TS]
01:22:21 ◼ ► This is someone who has is a is a figure in your life where you know you have to admit you know this is a someone who's [TS]
01:22:28 ◼ ► part of your childhood in your upbringing. I have you know found in his movies. Yes Yeah. [TS]
01:22:36 ◼ ► Hayes's he's as close to an interesting celebrities they could be for you I would imagine. [TS]
01:22:48 ◼ ► I think of you on Musk within the plane now that doesn't count. That why doesn't that count. [TS]
01:22:59 ◼ ► OK OK all of that is after all of that all of that aside you were telling me that you became aware that a famous person [TS]
01:23:08 ◼ ► who plays hand said I had a plane crash was in a plane crash and you didn't think I might look that up [TS]
01:23:14 ◼ ► and like go to Google. Duck duck. Bang or whatever that thing is you're talking about. Dr Lama. [TS]
01:23:28 ◼ ► and thought back to back to whatever whenever I saw it on Twitter I saw enough things in a short period of time where [TS]
01:23:38 ◼ ► Harrison Ford is in a plane crash and he's fine and he was he was in a stable at a hospital or something. [TS]
01:23:48 ◼ ► Tell me what your imagination is what do you imagining happened to tell me what you think. [TS]
01:24:01 ◼ ► I may have the celebrity wrong but I thought Harrison Ford was like well known already for having a pilot's license [TS]
01:24:07 ◼ ► and that he was he volunteered in some rescue scenario a few years ago so I vaguely remember this on the interview [TS]
01:24:16 ◼ ► And it turns out it's Harrison Ford flying the plane so I'm just imagining it's some very small private aircraft that [TS]
01:24:23 ◼ ► he was flying for pleasure that had some kind of mechanical problem. That's that's my guess is that far off. [TS]
01:24:34 ◼ ► OK so it was like a World War two He sent a replica plane the only interesting thing is he had some problem [TS]
01:24:40 ◼ ► and he he kind of half crash landed half safe landed on a golf course on the fairway of a golf course [TS]
01:24:48 ◼ ► and then people playing golf all rushed and rescued him. So there's some pretty cool footage and photos. [TS]
01:24:58 ◼ ► when greatest knows it naturally out of all of the celebrities who could possibly be in a plane crash this is the only [TS]
01:25:19 ◼ ► He was an ambassador for Qantas for a while and I am I really was a pier Yes that's right. [TS]
01:25:31 ◼ ► and sometimes got a helicopter license to say it was a helicopter job you already know it's a belt morrow seven [TS]
01:25:40 ◼ ► Hey you know I think he's had I think he's had three crashes now all three emergencies of note. [TS]
01:25:46 ◼ ► Well you know someone should be counting up all those points on his licence and take away his ability at some point [TS]
01:25:52 ◼ ► but what I'm really pleased to see that I think I'm impressed. There's nothing to be impressed by here. [TS]
01:26:11 ◼ ► I'm going to take a screen grab of this just V.A. So that I can show you what I've been looking at the whole point. [TS]
01:26:17 ◼ ► and just look at it every time we record a podcast so I'm going to make it a picture of you that comes up a lot [TS]
01:26:22 ◼ ► or a phone like it's going to be my my I kind of you know you know whatever you want to do man you know what if you [TS]
01:26:32 ◼ ► And at the moment I had thought the gray symbol you know you see to be a great symbol. [TS]
01:26:37 ◼ ► Well I have I use that picture where you're holding Audrey the very first picture that you sent me. [TS]
01:26:43 ◼ ► Yeah one that even you know the one that I just I just cropped it so it's just your face hasn't poetry [TS]
01:26:59 ◼ ► Yeah I think I'm going to twitter out of time I'm going to send you this picture that I've been looking at for help [TS]
01:27:06 ◼ ► I'm reading obviously the I'm sorry listeners obviously are going to get to see it is for obvious reasons [TS]
01:27:11 ◼ ► but there's gray that is a terrible photograph. But look how happy you know that is that is a horrifying photograph. [TS]
01:27:22 ◼ ► As you should not have my picture in your contact work that really annoy you if I do I just don't think that's good for [TS]
01:27:30 ◼ ► you is like I would not want to look at that all the time. It's terrible. OK If your contact book. [TS]
01:27:43 ◼ ► and there is something nice about you just being this faceless soulless icon rather than a human [TS]
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01:31:02 ◼ ► We get lots and lots of suggestions from listeners of things we should talk about which we appreciate and to look at [TS]
01:31:15 ◼ ► Everybody wanted to talk about the dress which I guess we did mention offhandedly. [TS]
01:31:19 ◼ ► Yeah but we're not talking about the dress. Let me read by the way let me read you this email I got to number four. [TS]
01:31:33 ◼ ► However I can't seem to get it reviewed or published used as fact I'm not a P.H.D. [TS]
01:31:36 ◼ ► In mathematics do you have any recommendations on how to publicize my proof. I love your videos by the way. Thank you. [TS]
01:31:46 ◼ ► What should I do about this is this is the for those who don't know the Riemann Hypothesis is like the holy grail of [TS]
01:31:54 ◼ ► mathematics and that is the that's the I mean how can you explain that that's the that's the. [TS]
01:32:02 ◼ ► and if that gets proven as well changing like I don't know I'm with the Riemann Hypothesis of my head. [TS]
01:32:08 ◼ ► It's quite hard to explain actually but that's one of the things I know I have looked this up several times [TS]
01:32:14 ◼ ► and then I just forget. I'll send you an excellent number five video all about it but as a wash. [TS]
01:32:25 ◼ ► Yeah it is a bit out there but I did like that is just someone to say like it's written in a really deep. [TS]
01:32:32 ◼ ► Usually when I get an email like this it's followed by a page after page after page of symbols and stuff [TS]
01:32:39 ◼ ► but disguised as written just like he's just like he's saying you know do you want me to order that pates I'll see you [TS]
01:32:51 ◼ ► but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about Southern Africa I totally lost the thread of that what was [TS]
01:32:59 ◼ ► going You gotta keep up with me you know I've got this I've got the Selectric brain is that amazing you know popping [TS]
01:33:16 ◼ ► and like you know I mean it's quite possible I will solve the Riemann hypothesis before this broadcast is over just [TS]
01:33:22 ◼ ► just in the boring moments between sentences when you strike. That's that's how my brain works right. [TS]
01:33:29 ◼ ► But getting back to this I think I think to whatever I don't even know what's going on the more the something in this [TS]
01:33:36 ◼ ► Dr Pepper Dr Pepper the something in the Dr Perper Basically I find the I really hope I'm getting paid for it. [TS]
01:33:54 ◼ ► Anyone want any while you're this like take the money but for God's sake I hope you get a cut. [TS]
01:34:02 ◼ ► but for once we're going to talk about something that was suggested because I thought it was a good suggestion [TS]
01:34:14 ◼ ► And one of the reasons they thought it would be an interesting thing to discuss with you in particular is is the How to [TS]
01:34:20 ◼ ► by whether or not we should be so preoccupied with the idea of sending humans to mouse over whether [TS]
01:34:27 ◼ ► or not with you know robots the way they should humans even apply to go to Mass or could you have a clever. [TS]
01:34:35 ◼ ► Yeah that was nice I just thought of that just in terms of some sign that this is you know I just I don't know. [TS]
01:34:41 ◼ ► Anyway like so I was really curious about where you stand on the idea of human exploration of Mars. [TS]
01:34:48 ◼ ► I'll be clinging to the old fashioned days of Apollo and does it make more sense to send super advanced robots [TS]
01:34:54 ◼ ► and artificial intelligence or does it even does even Gray I think there's merit to sending humans. Your thoughts. [TS]
01:35:13 ◼ ► and the first one is just a question of what we are trying to learn stuff about the solar system [TS]
01:35:19 ◼ ► and the history of the planet like basically a scientific inquiry question sort of data gathering right. [TS]
01:35:26 ◼ ► We want to know stuff about Mars we want to know stuff about the solar system and no doubt about it. [TS]
01:35:32 ◼ ► Hands down a view if you want to get the most amount of scientific data per dollar spent. [TS]
01:35:41 ◼ ► Or you can get robots to Mars much more cheaply than you could possibly get humans to Mars. [TS]
01:35:48 ◼ ► So in it in terms of an efficiency question is A Yes there should definitely be NASA and Space Exploration time [TS]
01:36:00 ◼ ► Them if I'm going to go I want to stop you I want to stop you on that for a second because I'm not one hundred percent [TS]
01:36:08 ◼ ► And the sort of the famous the famous story about that to borrow from Apollo is you know I love today is Apollo fifteen [TS]
01:36:26 ◼ ► and that was considered a real game changer for that understanding of the origin of the Moon I think it might be like a [TS]
01:36:32 ◼ ► piece of original crust and I won't go into all the details part because I don't know all of them [TS]
01:36:44 ◼ ► and the others involved always said you know I wouldn't have been able to identify and see it for what it was [TS]
01:36:51 ◼ ► and there was like a real human aspect to the finding of it whereas if you just went and did random samples [TS]
01:36:56 ◼ ► and rakes in areas and and AI robots are getting cleverer but there is just but so humans [TS]
01:37:04 ◼ ► I still think it's sometimes doing science even doing fieldwork science there is a component of a little bit of outside [TS]
01:37:14 ◼ ► the box ness and a little bit of not following the algorithm that can lead to really important discoveries [TS]
01:37:21 ◼ ► and breakthroughs and I do think having humans doing field work whether it's on Mars and does have an advantage [TS]
01:37:31 ◼ ► and there's a really good argument to be have about where does that have biggest advantage compared with the incredible [TS]
01:37:36 ◼ ► costs of getting the humans there. Yeah and I guess that's how you are about to reply. [TS]
01:37:48 ◼ ► Yeah I mean it's funny because I actually I also think that the Apollo program is a particularly interesting moment in [TS]
01:38:03 ◼ ► I sometimes kind of idly speculate about about its role but that's kind of a question for another time. [TS]
01:38:14 ◼ ► Well actually humans were more cost effective if you wanted to get something on the moon because if you did we just did [TS]
01:38:25 ◼ ► Yeah right as if you want to put a remote controlled robot on the moon that had the same kind of capabilities as our [TS]
01:38:33 ◼ ► current Mars rovers do with like well I hope you have a trillion trillion dollars to do that [TS]
01:38:44 ◼ ► Yes I think that you are still using vacuum tubes and all this other stuff so humans were the cost effective option [TS]
01:38:51 ◼ ► and it turned out that the moon was an achievable goal with a cost effective option compared to something like robotics [TS]
01:38:59 ◼ ► but of course as time goes on right robotics gets cheaper and cheaper and Mars is a much more difficult call [TS]
01:39:05 ◼ ► and so yeah it's the cost effective question and calculation is very different between those two scenarios. [TS]
01:39:11 ◼ ► Yeah I mean clearly clearly you're right as well because that is what we're doing you know sending out these robots to [TS]
01:39:16 ◼ ► Mars all the time and yeah I mean the advantage of course with the robots is that they are. [TS]
01:39:21 ◼ ► They are expendable in a way that humans are not where I think that some of the really interesting programs are like [TS]
01:39:32 ◼ ► and it's going to take a sample from the surface of the comet like we did you say expendable or expendable. [TS]
01:39:48 ◼ ► but you know the robot wasn't anybody's father you know like that you can just write them off [TS]
01:39:54 ◼ ► and they know it's expendable to you that's what you know I think I think that like whatever we do. [TS]
01:40:01 ◼ ► Well we can apply that to getting robots in places where we just can't even dream of sending humans like we're never [TS]
01:40:09 ◼ ► going to land a human on a comet that swinging by in the solar system probably for a couple hundred years we're not [TS]
01:40:20 ◼ ► But so the robots are able to go further so you kind of you get more by by investing in the robots in a way that you [TS]
01:40:28 ◼ ► just don't with humans like Mars may be the only human reachable target for a very long time. [TS]
01:40:35 ◼ ► So it's like they're just it's like it's like a franchise of all if we make a good product that works on much as we can. [TS]
01:40:44 ◼ ► and you do things you couldn't possibly like hey we're going to send a probe just we're just going to take a very [TS]
01:40:52 ◼ ► and have it just record data on the way down like you knew you couldn't do that with a person would be very tragic [TS]
01:40:57 ◼ ► and you know probably wouldn't be very good at recording data in the last moment which is the most unpleasant time. [TS]
01:41:23 ◼ ► and space exploration just in general it's it's not like it's a huge amount of money relative to governmental spending. [TS]
01:41:32 ◼ ► And I'm a big fan in hey maybe we should have an off site backup for the human species right this might be a good thing [TS]
01:41:42 ◼ ► This might be literally the most important project that humanity can possibly undertake is having humans on more than [TS]
01:41:50 ◼ ► one planet. So I think that that is that is definitely a very important but very long term goal. [TS]
01:42:00 ◼ ► But you don't reach long term goals unless you are progressively working towards them a little bit every day [TS]
01:42:07 ◼ ► and so yes I think we should have in development an active program to land people on Mars no doubt I think that is [TS]
01:42:13 ◼ ► important enough that if I was in charge of the government I'd be willing to double Nasa's budget on something like [TS]
01:42:19 ◼ ► that as a hey take everything you doing now put it into robots and also we're going to double your budget [TS]
01:42:27 ◼ ► Let's just get started on this and make sure that this is a real project that's happening. [TS]
01:42:31 ◼ ► Just to pause for a second and come back to what you just said then why do you think that so [TS]
01:42:41 ◼ ► and all that sort of stuff why do you care so much about this kind of seeding of humanity in this insurance off site [TS]
01:42:48 ◼ ► backup as you called it like I know you don't want everyone to die in a comet impact. [TS]
01:42:54 ◼ ► but no one like you who would be moved by the beauty of the experience that was your position if I remember it [TS]
01:43:05 ◼ ► but like I was twisting a word that all of the exactly which is why I said I understand you know you don't wish ill [TS]
01:43:15 ◼ ► but why do you why are you so invested in the future of humanity if you are one of these guys who you know [TS]
01:43:24 ◼ ► and Y U Y D Y E So why do you think we should be investing billions in that. And you know. [TS]
01:43:36 ◼ ► When you're asking a question about a Mars program well me living in my individual life there's nothing that I can [TS]
01:43:44 ◼ ► when you're asking the question about Mars exploration I think implicitly in that question is thinking about it from the [TS]
01:43:50 ◼ ► perspective of something like a government you know should a government undertake this kind of project [TS]
01:44:08 ◼ ► That's what I'm thinking of that from you know from my thinking great perspective you know what I would I would I would [TS]
01:44:20 ◼ ► and that's a different question from just a lot of other questions you asked me I'm thinking about it just from like oh [TS]
01:44:26 ◼ ► or should I not follow the news so that's a very different way of thinking about stuff. [TS]
01:44:30 ◼ ► Yeah so that's why I'm I'm I'm big on this is that let's get people elsewhere I think that that is that is a good goal [TS]
01:44:37 ◼ ► Tell me what you think about these people who there's been a bit of it in the news lately but [TS]
01:44:46 ◼ ► These people who put themselves forward as people who would be willing to go to Mars with no return ticket. [TS]
01:44:59 ◼ ► Could you be one of those people like what you think is I think you know I would never be one of those people. [TS]
01:45:11 ◼ ► and I would definitely trade living fifty additional years on Earth of my own actual life versus cutting that down to a [TS]
01:45:22 ◼ ► But getting immortality in the textbooks that immortality in the textbooks means nothing to me when I'm dead. [TS]
01:45:27 ◼ ► So that's a very different question. Yeah would you do it. Would you go on a one way trip to Mars. [TS]
01:45:33 ◼ ► You know if you'd asked me five or six years ago you would have got a shaky. I don't know maybe yes maybe no. [TS]
01:45:48 ◼ ► Yeah I don't want to leave my wife that when I laid my doggies. So. Audrey is your answer. [TS]
01:46:10 ◼ ► and while I still think the Armstrongs wholesome I do realize that he's just a guy who's dead himself [TS]
01:46:17 ◼ ► and you know while I'm envious of what he got to do. Until then he's a good guy and one is an old maid. [TS]
01:46:31 ◼ ► and there's a fifty fifty chance of coming back you know it might be a different story. [TS]
01:46:37 ◼ ► Yeah it's a different story and although it might be a different story as you continue to get older [TS]
01:46:41 ◼ ► when you're looking at the at the ever shortening event horizon of your life. Yeah well I'm seventy five. [TS]
01:46:49 ◼ ► How much more time do I possibly have I might as well do something really interesting because then the calculus on this [TS]
01:46:55 ◼ ► and like well how many years of my giving up versus spending the last two years of that doing something interesting [TS]
01:47:06 ◼ ► and said well that's not so much because you love him so much you do anything I would not do anything. [TS]
01:47:11 ◼ ► Now I was the hook and this is like oh I was an important person that means something. [TS]
01:47:19 ◼ ► or not you do something that's a terrible way to make you just told me you'd consider coming to Mount Everest if the [TS]
01:47:26 ◼ ► Well let me put it to the so if there was a fifty fifty chance of you dying going to Mass on a special mission that [TS]
01:47:32 ◼ ► made a ship so good except with a fifty fifty chance except for the fifty fifty chance except for the death would you [TS]
01:47:39 ◼ ► go now. Would you go if they had really tested and all of us would go I know I would not. [TS]
01:47:49 ◼ ► and I go Well guys I'm going to I'm going to monopolize the educational market if you start this is a strategy years [TS]
01:47:58 ◼ ► ago. Not only is there a downside but is actually an upside it's like like a hedge in the market here. [TS]
01:48:05 ◼ ► Well can I have your logon details before you go just to just to preserve your legacy. [TS]
01:48:19 ◼ ► So I just you know you have to be commonplace like if it was like I kind of assume that I will never not be on planet [TS]
01:48:31 ◼ ► but yes there's a question of thinking forward into the future is it possible that within our life time travel to Mars [TS]
01:48:48 ◼ ► and so that's that's why I say that question the way that I do is give me this in the great possibility sense of well [TS]
01:48:56 ◼ ► Or do you think like there's a likelihood like because I I'm not convinced humans will go to mass while I'm alive. [TS]
01:49:03 ◼ ► If I if I had to put money on the table I would say I would I would bet that yes within my lifespan there are humans [TS]
01:49:10 ◼ ► who step on Mars. Really I would be surprised if that was not the case. Well a year ago I would've said no. [TS]
01:49:21 ◼ ► when I'm projecting forward I can imagine I can imagine a place where we could say something like travel to Mars is [TS]
01:49:27 ◼ ► more frequent than travel to the International Space Station is today you know people go to the International Space [TS]
01:49:34 ◼ ► Station but very few I can imagine a scenario where travel to Mars is more frequent than that. [TS]
01:49:41 ◼ ► but that's why i'm also that I can also think like well you know I don't I don't like flying on a on a jet airplane [TS]
01:49:49 ◼ ► across the Atlantic so I can't imagine there's ever going to be a scenario in which I would I would go to Mars even if [TS]
01:49:56 ◼ ► it was even if it was a common ish in the future. I don't know what he's thinking over there. [TS]
01:50:08 ◼ ► I worry not about I think sometimes I think sometimes I think you're too happy to watch what other people do [TS]
01:50:19 ◼ ► and you know you've driven across America a couple of times and you are a guy who goes and does things [TS]
01:50:24 ◼ ► and say things I don't I can never quite figure out I can't figure that aspect of us out you know you're interested in [TS]
01:50:31 ◼ ► science and exploration and you know you've got a fascination about nature and yet And yet [TS]
01:50:38 ◼ ► and I guess you just pick up and know you're a bit nervous and now I'm not I'm not nervous [TS]
01:50:45 ◼ ► and you might be better to say that I'm calculating with this stuff if you could if you could say that travel to Mars [TS]
01:51:01 ◼ ► but I'm not imagining that within the scope of my probable life life that travel to Mars will reach that kind of safety [TS]
01:51:13 ◼ ► but again it's also a different thing where you know imagine again I'm like an old person then then then the [TS]
01:51:20 ◼ ► Right now I'm in the prime of my life Brady you know Mars seems like a terrible idea. [TS]
01:51:27 ◼ ► Here it's pretty cold there that's all I hear is very good a lot is trailing the air's chilly [TS]
01:51:31 ◼ ► and every time of year it's never been one that has never been a planet that has excited me a lot. [TS]
01:51:37 ◼ ► Well I'm I'm really into you know you know I'm really just running in space and I'm really into the solar system [TS]
01:51:45 ◼ ► It's like the clichéd other planet that people love talking about and writing stories about stuff [TS]
01:52:00 ◼ ► That's why people talk about going because the most similar but also kind of make that the least interesting. [TS]
01:52:05 ◼ ► Yeah like I did I did lessons on the solar system with the kids that I used to teach this was just a regular part of [TS]
01:52:11 ◼ ► and I was always aware that the most interesting thing to talk about with Mars is the possibility of humans going [TS]
01:52:19 ◼ ► but other than that yeah there's not like you can talk about like the amazing kind of weather [TS]
01:52:23 ◼ ► or the interesting the interesting extremes on the planet because it's not that I say that you've got a limp us man [TS]
01:52:28 ◼ ► seventy that's the that's the thing that's Yellin let me let me tell you a roomful of fifteen year old kids are not [TS]
01:52:35 ◼ ► super impressed by all of this month's right you can you can do your best with that [TS]
01:52:39 ◼ ► but it is not there's no way to make that capture the imagination the highest amount three times higher than Mount [TS]
01:52:44 ◼ ► Everest. Again even the notion of Mt Everest to a room full of kids is like an abstract notion. [TS]
01:52:54 ◼ ► and it's three times bigger than the thing that's really big it doesn't it doesn't connect in a way [TS]
01:52:59 ◼ ► but you can talk about you know or what might it be like to try to fly through Jupiter [TS]
01:53:03 ◼ ► and go like that so they can kind of imagine this idea of like is that there's nothing really solid in this planet it's [TS]
01:53:14 ◼ ► but with Mars is always the most interesting thing was just talking about people possibly going there like that would [TS]
01:53:19 ◼ ► capture kids' attention than the particular physical features of Mars are not really interesting here. [TS]
01:53:25 ◼ ► So that's why I think you also don't find it super interesting because from a geological perspective it is probably the [TS]
01:53:33 ◼ ► Now we're going to hear from everybody who knows everything about Mars geology like a nail [TS]
01:53:37 ◼ ► and it's pretty it's pretty true. I can't say I should be able to member I cannot remember her name. [TS]
01:53:44 ◼ ► The geologist in the Red Mars book. I will not have you not read. Have you not read Red Mars I have not. [TS]
01:53:55 ◼ ► There's a really grumpy geologist while you still have is that the one where they have like a festival on a limb past [TS]
01:53:59 ◼ ► months. Yes yes yes I have Family Robinson Yeah I have read that one. John Boone I tell you why. [TS]
01:54:08 ◼ ► Well the movie Mission to Mars with Gary Sinise and Tim Robbins and those people is is my worst movie ever made. [TS]
01:54:20 ◼ ► When people have a say what's the worst movie ever that you've ever watched I always say that one [TS]
01:54:25 ◼ ► and you have watched it three or four times but I think there is though I think that is my worst movie ever. [TS]
01:54:35 ◼ ► and you know that actually I don't know I don't know any of the time to bring that up. [TS]
01:54:38 ◼ ► A mention this is a horrifying thing about teaching kids and realizing I would if people know about the world [TS]
01:54:44 ◼ ► and the answer is way less than you think. Whenever I would do the thing about the solar system. [TS]
01:54:50 ◼ ► OK so I now I would teach many classes like a whole bunch of kids. So let's say out of me B. [TS]
01:54:58 ◼ ► One hundred fifty kids I would teach in a particular year when I would get to the part about Mars [TS]
01:55:05 ◼ ► Without fail there was always at least one kid every year who was confused because they assumed that humans had already [TS]
01:55:13 ◼ ► been to Mars might not. Not unlike a pulling my leg kind of way but because this always happens every year. [TS]
01:55:20 ◼ ► I just knew after a while this question was going to come up with some and some of looking confused in the back [TS]
01:55:26 ◼ ► and I think it's an example of where it's easy to overestimate how much people know about the world [TS]
01:55:36 ◼ ► or other Mars related movies are the reason why some people actually do think we've already been to Mars. [TS]
01:55:51 ◼ ► but I don't know if you're touching a microphone right now by the way you use what I did I did. [TS]
01:55:57 ◼ ► Oh look at that I'm going to tell you the price. You're amazing. Yeah I can hear it on my headphones. [TS]
01:56:09 ◼ ► Just like your phone just went off right now on vibrate as well this is the other thing I can hear [TS]
01:56:15 ◼ ► but now is on your end all of a sudden I'm not going to apologize for having my phone on because I do need to know [TS]
01:56:20 ◼ ► what's going on but you are watching your microphone. I was and it was completely just fit. [TS]
01:56:24 ◼ ► I am bit of a fidget to you and that was a complete fidget I was just an unnecessary rotation of the bass. [TS]