00:00:00 ◼ ► You're already mad at me and we haven't even started. I think this is our least prepared episode ever. [TS]
00:00:09 ◼ ► We have said that before with unprepared episodes but this is really like well I guess we have a thing to do [TS]
00:00:14 ◼ ► and this is literally the only time we can do it so we have to record it right now because you are going to be [TS]
00:00:21 ◼ ► traveling and I am going to be traveling if you don't record today it's not going to happen. [TS]
00:00:27 ◼ ► when people listen to this one so yeah I actually think I very well may be on an airplane [TS]
00:00:38 ◼ ► when this one airs the day we're recording this is a day that Grace put out his Scandinavia video four hours ago [TS]
00:00:45 ◼ ► and I put it out and I think I put out four or five videos today and has been met so we have both. [TS]
00:00:56 ◼ ► but I also uploaded some today released today can I just say by the way I've been meaning to bring this up for a while [TS]
00:01:03 ◼ ► and this is completely unnecessary to bring up but I'm bringing it up. We got nothing to go we got nothing. [TS]
00:01:09 ◼ ► I know people get very excited about all these Brady versus Gray widgets and websites and spreadsheets [TS]
00:01:24 ◼ ► Not only do I think that's completely pointless and like comparing apples with K.B. [TS]
00:01:33 ◼ ► but it's also completely broken because if one of us. Uploads. Well I'm speaking more about me here. [TS]
00:01:41 ◼ ► If I upload a bunch of videos and don't make them public for various reasons because I'm staggering releases [TS]
00:01:49 ◼ ► All these widgets and that use the data that I uploaded them not the day they go public. [TS]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Point yes but the numbers are wrong and as I said before I think it's great that people do and it's funny and cute [TS]
00:02:12 ◼ ► My understanding is that this again is like many things entirely You Tube's fault because they don't actually have any [TS]
00:02:20 ◼ ► any place where you can access the publish date there is only the uploaded date so there's no information for any of [TS]
00:02:30 ◼ ► So yes even I have run into some times where I have a videos are uploaded in a different order from the time they [TS]
00:02:38 ◼ ► and it's very frustrating it's it's weird it's another weird little thing that you can't why can't you have a published [TS]
00:02:45 ◼ ► date who cares about the upload date nobody is more you chewed half assed sorry it is more You Tube half assed sorry [TS]
00:02:53 ◼ ► that's in time to which I can jump right into a little follow up by them because the list goes right right up write [TS]
00:03:03 ◼ ► No no it sounds like you found yourself a little so I could ask what you should say I'm not going to ruin it for you. [TS]
00:03:10 ◼ ► But the very first the very first thing that I have in the follow up is I mentioned it last time. [TS]
00:03:16 ◼ ► Even still more people have sent me all kinds of bizarre configurations about where the card little I con appears on [TS]
00:03:29 ◼ ► and since the last time we recorded You Tube has moved the branding box that I was complaining about last time where [TS]
00:03:40 ◼ ► The place for the card to button and the place for the branding box were in the same location [TS]
00:03:50 ◼ ► and they move the branding box to what seems to me one of the worst locations which is now the bottom right hand corner [TS]
00:03:57 ◼ ► is where they put the little logo box on. On on top of all of your videos and it's like come on guys. [TS]
00:04:04 ◼ ► That seems like a terrible place to put it I don't know why you decided that was the one to go for [TS]
00:04:11 ◼ ► and it is irritating to me because that is a place that is very useful in animate like the bottom part of it is very [TS]
00:04:17 ◼ ► useful for animations and so now it's like yet another thing I have to be aware of [TS]
00:04:21 ◼ ► when I'm putting together my slides are like oh right anything in the bottom right hand corner is going to be covered [TS]
00:04:26 ◼ ► up by the branding box so I'm actually considering just totally turning off the branding box entirely. [TS]
00:04:38 ◼ ► when I talk about things like cricket plane crashes and things and you're just like I couldn't care less right. [TS]
00:04:45 ◼ ► Yeah this is definitely one of these things where it matters to me more because I'm doing animations [TS]
00:04:50 ◼ ► but for ninety nine percent of people on You Tube It doesn't doesn't make any difference like what corner is being used [TS]
00:04:55 ◼ ► by the screen doesn't matter because it's almost always someone's face in the center of the screen so this is just my [TS]
00:05:03 ◼ ► I do a lot of animation state I just don't think about I just like maybe I should think about it. [TS]
00:05:11 ◼ ► Well you don't pretty OK though so maybe I should think about it I don't think this is a difference that makes a [TS]
00:05:16 ◼ ► difference I will say. Anyway there you go if you really care about this email Gary. [TS]
00:05:22 ◼ ► So you've said something here about Europe and skyscrapers. What's going on down here. That's not me. [TS]
00:05:29 ◼ ► That may that's you that is me the you're always trying to tell me that I put these things in the documents [TS]
00:05:34 ◼ ► and they're your things this is not me I didn't put it there I don't know just I swear you don't you don't know [TS]
00:05:39 ◼ ► anything that you do you don't know when you touch the microphone you don't know when you add stuff to the document. [TS]
00:05:51 ◼ ► You're just you're just on autopilot just did you do to do whatever looking at Twitter [TS]
00:05:54 ◼ ► or checking your email adding stuff to the documents and not remembering any of that the impression I get right now. [TS]
00:06:00 ◼ ► It looks like there is plans for the tallest skyscraper in Europe to be built at a spa resort in the Swiss Alps. [TS]
00:06:10 ◼ ► It would tower over London's shot which measures a mere one thousand state yet Gray still wants to buy an apartment [TS]
00:06:17 ◼ ► and I do. We'll put a link in the show notes in few one hour in this article I have no picture. [TS]
00:06:25 ◼ ► Do you think that the artist's impression of something now they had some picture of a little town [TS]
00:06:30 ◼ ► and then like a stock photo of a woman in the spa. Stupid article I want to I want to photograph. [TS]
00:06:37 ◼ ► When I was the reporter for that the city council in Adelaide and new plans would go in for a building [TS]
00:06:48 ◼ ► I knew I had a good story that day when you go in and I'd say we've got some plans. That's lots of pages. [TS]
00:06:56 ◼ ► Let's page five page seven maybe depends depends I could it looks I think I got maybe a page one a couple times for [TS]
00:07:04 ◼ ► them. Oh yeah yeah. His impressions of buildings that's that's that's money in the bank for a council reporter. [TS]
00:07:17 ◼ ► when the council agenda came out for the meeting that wake with all the reports that was a bonanza that was a treasure [TS]
00:07:31 ◼ ► Three funding a newspaper journalist already missed it. Oh yeah I want to go back. [TS]
00:07:38 ◼ ► I'm sure they'd take you know they don't really miss it enough to actually do it again. [TS]
00:07:44 ◼ ► Me So I have just because I have fond memories of something you know I actually have a recurring nightmare that I'm [TS]
00:07:54 ◼ ► and it wasn't a nightmare to work they don't get me wrong I loved working there it was the you know some of the [TS]
00:08:00 ◼ ► Days of my life for some reason it's an anxiety dream that I've gone back now I've left England enough to come back to [TS]
00:08:06 ◼ ► Australia and I'm back in the NEWSROOM and I'm thinking oh my goodness what a terrible mistake why have I done this. [TS]
00:08:11 ◼ ► Things were going really well once I was I come back it's like a real anxiety dream of mine. [TS]
00:08:21 ◼ ► and I can't emphasize enough how much I'd like the place it's not like it's not a place I don't want to go back to IN [TS]
00:08:27 ◼ ► THE DREAM. It's terrible it's like crazy things are going well I was making my You Tube videos and things were good. [TS]
00:08:39 ◼ ► Tell me more about your dreams just as I said that I remembered how much you hate us so I thought you might like this [TS]
00:08:48 ◼ ► and it's like a recurring thing it's not like you know oh one day I was walking down the street [TS]
00:08:52 ◼ ► and my brother was Robin Williams or whatever it was you said when you said it it wasn't that it was like you know. [TS]
00:09:01 ◼ ► A boy of Port dreams compensation for now it's very interesting you are unhelpful enough with my attempts to start [TS]
00:09:14 ◼ ► I tried to be helpful I'm just not very good at it but this is but the dream stuff is the absolute worst. [TS]
00:09:20 ◼ ► There's nothing to grab onto it's just it's a conversational fog is no there's no hope there's no way out just for you [TS]
00:09:28 ◼ ► I'm really really interested in psychology and there must be a link between dreams and psychology. [TS]
00:09:34 ◼ ► I'm not really interested in psychology now not not really you know now I think it's mostly nonsense. [TS]
00:09:41 ◼ ► Well while we're speaking of. Sorry my uncle who's a psychologist you're not listening. [TS]
00:09:49 ◼ ► and buildings kind of quickly follow up on our previous discussion about the black stump building please do the mighty [TS]
00:10:10 ◼ ► and they were holding a copy of The Advertiser to prove that they were contemporaneous pictures that was a massive [TS]
00:10:19 ◼ ► I like the guy who had it on the laptop I thought that was the best that was a classy move. [TS]
00:10:23 ◼ ► That's the way I would have done it. Yeah I actually prefer the paper ones but of course of course of course. [TS]
00:10:39 ◼ ► and this was a guy called I will look up his name because he definitely gets a name check in fact they all deserve a [TS]
00:10:44 ◼ ► name check the photographers were I guess T. Man this is Twitter names obviously at case T. [TS]
00:10:50 ◼ ► Man at D G five six seven eight two eight catchy name and tablet laptop man was at Cal and care. [TS]
00:11:02 ◼ ► But the prize in the trophy goes to absolute Avery three who made a video with some podcast playing over the top of a [TS]
00:11:21 ◼ ► and made a video of himself walking into the lobby of the Grenfell center of the black stump while listening to a [TS]
00:11:28 ◼ ► podcast and that's pretty special. My wife thought the video was very creepy that was the word she used. [TS]
00:11:36 ◼ ► Looking back at it a second or third time it is a bit creepy but I still think it's brilliant. [TS]
00:11:44 ◼ ► Maybe I will say in a not so recent podcast we discussed the pronunciation of St Bernard right. [TS]
00:12:02 ◼ ► So we had a listener from Switzerland a native German speaker send us in an audio file of his pronunciation. [TS]
00:12:21 ◼ ► Sort of the native way and saying it's an audio file. I will now that great to time travel magic and play it T. [TS]
00:12:39 ◼ ► but I thought it was really cool to have an audio file and follow the wanted audio feedback follow up. [TS]
00:12:46 ◼ ► But don't don't send me your audio files to get them in the pod cast that will not happen [TS]
00:12:50 ◼ ► and I will not listen to audio files that get sent in now because I know exactly what you're all going to day. [TS]
00:12:56 ◼ ► I don't even bother. I will delete anything with an audio file without listening. That's going to happen. [TS]
00:13:12 ◼ ► What if it's an amazing an amazing email in audio form then that's just ventilated think about what you could be [TS]
00:13:19 ◼ ► missing out on. Don't care don't care not even if you know someone called the Riemann Hypothesis. [TS]
00:13:28 ◼ ► and is that what the a book audio proof knowing that they're going in the bin this seems unusually harsh for you [TS]
00:13:34 ◼ ► usually have the fear of missing out on maybe maybe there's something great in one of those emails just going to leave [TS]
00:13:39 ◼ ► the audio on either the fear of missing out you know the guy he doesn't want to go to Mount Everest [TS]
00:13:47 ◼ ► I say that the value proposition there is just very different. Can I do a follow up from another. [TS]
00:13:57 ◼ ► This is not quite so sure you can do you can. You can default on whatever you want. [TS]
00:14:01 ◼ ► This is only a couple podcast and I just wanted to mention it because I felt like I should have last time [TS]
00:14:06 ◼ ► when I admitted that I had never consumed coffee and you were like Oh it's amazing. [TS]
00:14:19 ◼ ► and a standard bearer for all these non coffee drinkers who've been in the closet for way too long [TS]
00:14:27 ◼ ► and emails that saying THANK YOU THANK YOU Brady for saying what we've all been thinking that coffee is disgusting [TS]
00:14:35 ◼ ► and all these people saying I've never drank I've never had a I actually think for stably I'm even contacted me [TS]
00:14:41 ◼ ► and said that he was anti coffee compared to see him you don't have to correct me every time I say incorrectly I don't [TS]
00:14:48 ◼ ► know I'm told always because sometimes you move by it so it's impossible for me to try to get a crack I think people [TS]
00:14:53 ◼ ► know I think people know what's going on. OK You think so. OK Yeah so anyway. Can I just say. [TS]
00:15:06 ◼ ► and right back at your real hero Brady It was really brave of you to say what it was going to look like it was big of [TS]
00:15:12 ◼ ► me. It was big of me and I feel like I've become a role model for a lot of young non coffee drinkers out there. [TS]
00:15:18 ◼ ► Someone they can aspire to and think I too could be as old as Brady one day and had not drank coffee. [TS]
00:15:25 ◼ ► So I stick with that table. With that we're going to have dreams dream big and in the foyer. [TS]
00:15:38 ◼ ► and then I heard it I heard that for young kids get out find it's right around the corner that I would be other way [TS]
00:15:49 ◼ ► once again really plays to be sponsored by Hava visa holder dot com if you're in the market to register a domain name [TS]
00:16:03 ◼ ► or maybe dot church if you're in the business of setting up your own religion for example. [TS]
00:16:08 ◼ ► But in all seriousness Hava is really easy to use. No not since a professional service. [TS]
00:16:18 ◼ ► Customer service and a free valet service if you want to move your other designs to the superior Hava system. [TS]
00:16:27 ◼ ► but I always have a brilliant customer support team if you want to give them a call [TS]
00:16:48 ◼ ► Now as a hello internet listener you get ten percent of your first purchase if you use the checkout code.. [TS]
00:17:01 ◼ ► So I go to hava dot com That's the HAVA dot com in case you're struggling with my pronunciation. [TS]
00:17:09 ◼ ► And check them out and when you do it by some divine names make sure you use C G P to get that ten percent off. [TS]
00:17:22 ◼ ► Speaking of you know people being in touch with us I think it is time for me to draw another line in the sand. [TS]
00:17:29 ◼ ► Oh and this is the emailing me to get to gray This is not going to happen this is not going to work [TS]
00:17:37 ◼ ► and I'm now putting in a firm policy of no matter what it is or how important is it won't go to gray. [TS]
00:17:44 ◼ ► Because if I let one through then I have to let them walk in after them or three so that's it. [TS]
00:17:53 ◼ ► or can you please show just grey not going to happen and don't and don't even try and be sneaky and say. [TS]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Let's start your email off with Brady. I think you're really nice and I enjoy your videos. [TS]
00:18:05 ◼ ► I was just thinking the other day C.D.P. Greg would really like to but that's not going to work either. [TS]
00:18:12 ◼ ► So it sounds like you've been getting a lot of my email I have you know I got no getting journalists email me asking [TS]
00:18:30 ◼ ► and just delete all of those I have an email filter that I think it uses the phrase I am a reporter from [TS]
00:18:39 ◼ ► Never never feel guilty never feel guilty about that but you know I don't think that's over the professional [TS]
00:18:45 ◼ ► and I think if a journalist wants to contact someone I thankfully think that's quiet industrious of them to think I [TS]
00:18:53 ◼ ► haven't got this guy's phone number. I can't seem to email him. Who else would know Him How can I get to him. [TS]
00:19:00 ◼ ► You know like I would do the same thing if I really wanted to contact someone I have done the same thing. [TS]
00:19:14 ◼ ► You know you didn't you didn't flatten the enough is that what your problem is you probably needed to message me a [TS]
00:19:21 ◼ ► You probably need to say you know I listened to your podcast with gray and I think you're both awesome [TS]
00:19:26 ◼ ► but there was none of that there was no mess adjuring it was just straight to the I Hate You know him. [TS]
00:19:36 ◼ ► but I think that's kind of I think that's kind of over the line I have been weirdly on on both sides of this because [TS]
00:19:43 ◼ ► there have been people who have contacted me trying to get in touch with other people that they know I know [TS]
00:19:47 ◼ ► and I always find that just I think it's just weird it's kind of it's over a sort of social line like wait you you know [TS]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Like why would I ever do that for you person that I don't know this to seems wrong wrong. [TS]
00:20:05 ◼ ► Well the only way the place where I fell down for the journalist is they journalists I think journalists a used to [TS]
00:20:14 ◼ ► dealing with people how impressed by journalists and I was pretty impressed by the prospect of publicity. [TS]
00:20:22 ◼ ► Yeah and you and I not not to humble brag but you and I for various reasons are past that point. [TS]
00:20:33 ◼ ► and I want to speak to your friend you know isn't this an amazing opportunity that's fall in your lap like that doesn't [TS]
00:20:41 ◼ ► but I could imagine for other people that would work would be like oh well you know talk to my friend are you going to [TS]
00:20:47 ◼ ► Yeah sure I hope you of course because I want my friend to be in the paper because we all think as Rico. [TS]
00:20:51 ◼ ► But it's always just really expected like I'm going to just jump at this opportunity no matter how inconvenient it is [TS]
00:20:58 ◼ ► or how totally unhelpful it is to me I don't know I just I don't know that's because they don't realize it's happened [TS]
00:21:08 ◼ ► Right again but you have a ninety nine out of one hundred of the people they do it. [TS]
00:21:17 ◼ ► and like this is like this is huge for them and I love it. So usually good for you. [TS]
00:21:23 ◼ ► Of course they of course journalists are also used to being ignored and slapped in the face [TS]
00:21:31 ◼ ► They didn't know you were going to be one of those and they just played those rolled the dice. [TS]
00:21:37 ◼ ► They're not sitting there agonizing about it I've got one hundred of those e-mails every day. [TS]
00:21:41 ◼ ► Yeah I guess I guess I guess that's what it is about so I don't feel bad leaving their e-mails because it's Jack just [TS]
00:21:53 ◼ ► I don't need your e-mail I got a good email today from a famous newspaper website times. [TS]
00:22:05 ◼ ► and I got this email from this woman saying I've written a story about you or your video. [TS]
00:22:14 ◼ ► I've written a story about a video but our newspaper has a policy of not embedding videos can we put on our player. [TS]
00:22:23 ◼ ► Here's a story I've written so I click through to the story to have a look because I was curious [TS]
00:22:35 ◼ ► and that they just try on to see if you know you know say OK you can put it in you play yourself. I was unimpressed. [TS]
00:22:44 ◼ ► This is why I like I have yet to have I mean aside from you Brady I have yet to have in the course of my professional [TS]
00:22:51 ◼ ► career anything resembling a positive interaction with a reporter in any way shape or form. [TS]
00:22:56 ◼ ► It's always it's always just boundary pushing or like they clearly already know exactly what they want to write [TS]
00:23:02 ◼ ► and they're just going to try to manipulate you into a quote or or we want to use your stuff to make money for us [TS]
00:23:07 ◼ ► and then pretend like you're going to get any benefit from it but of course you won't. It's just you know thumbs down. [TS]
00:23:18 ◼ ► when I was called reporting on the newspaper I am I wrote a story one day about a guy that done some pretty dodgy stuff [TS]
00:23:31 ◼ ► and the wife is this guy obviously knew who I was so I've been sitting in court with a notepad [TS]
00:23:40 ◼ ► and giving me just tore the piece tried to spit in my face and then all the security guards in the court had to come [TS]
00:23:46 ◼ ► and surround me and they're like I got in the lift to go up to my office and they all had to get in with me [TS]
00:23:50 ◼ ► and she got in the lift as well and just abused me in the lift all the way up and to get out of the lift [TS]
00:23:55 ◼ ► and to the security guards had to take away eventually why we should be using you. [TS]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Because because I'd written the story in the newspaper that had you know said bad things about her husband OK [TS]
00:24:08 ◼ ► but like I just reported what was said in court by the lawyers and the guy and the guy had paid up like a granny. [TS]
00:24:21 ◼ ► His issue she came up to me like I was I was a bit stunned I wasn't not being asked [TS]
00:24:28 ◼ ► and said I can't believe you wrote that stuff did you know that he's got you know a kid [TS]
00:24:32 ◼ ► and did you know that he does this and do you know that he cleans up his neighbor's window every day [TS]
00:24:39 ◼ ► and he said Did you know that he beat up an eighty year old woman in that that that that didn't come her death the one [TS]
00:24:56 ◼ ► I do know I wasn't I wasn't doing it to be defiant I promise you I was I wasn't feeling emboldened and confident. [TS]
00:25:06 ◼ ► but that was one of those times where the line just came into my head and I said yeah. So it just happened. [TS]
00:25:17 ◼ ► Now speaking of being recognized I humble brag a little bit last episode about some public recognition problems [TS]
00:25:26 ◼ ► and following on from that. You said at the time that had never happened to you right. [TS]
00:25:31 ◼ ► And lo and behold a couple of days later I got a very interesting text from what happened. [TS]
00:25:36 ◼ ► It was not the twelve hours after we put out the last podcast that I was recognized. [TS]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Yet he always apologize oh I haven't the least bought Cat Deeley just came out last night [TS]
00:26:10 ◼ ► but I just thought after our previous conversation that that was that was very funny that the very first time I was [TS]
00:26:18 ◼ ► What happened where were you what did this person hear you saying I'd like to talk me through it. [TS]
00:26:22 ◼ ► I was recognised for the first time in the Covent Garden Apple store the whole place was in the world [TS]
00:26:30 ◼ ► and I was I was actually I was actually buying some stuff for hello internet and I was I was in there [TS]
00:26:37 ◼ ► and I was trying to use their little their little app where you can just buy stuff in store without having to talk to [TS]
00:26:45 ◼ ► But where I was I couldn't get an internet connection to work and so I thought I have to talk to the person [TS]
00:26:49 ◼ ► and so I just I just grabbed this guy and you know that how can you bring up these items [TS]
00:27:10 ◼ ► And I thought in the guy and this was the first time he was able to play so he went boom your C.D.P. [TS]
00:27:16 ◼ ► Gray and then so we just had a little chat for a little while we talked about podcasts so it was the guy selling it. [TS]
00:27:28 ◼ ► He was reaching under the table for the bags that they have so I haven't actually had in my car to get my [TS]
00:27:33 ◼ ► but anyway so those for something is recognized. Did you enjoy or find it really uncomfortable. [TS]
00:27:39 ◼ ► OK So this this happened to work out very well for both of us but because the two humans in this situation [TS]
00:27:49 ◼ ► and I'm sure many times like I am not very social when I'm just living my normal life. [TS]
00:28:01 ◼ ► and this was in between two other meetings so I had already spun up the part of my brain which is I guess I have to [TS]
00:28:06 ◼ ► deal with people all day long and so I was kind of more prepared than I would normally be under these circumstances. [TS]
00:28:13 ◼ ► And plus I was already oh I'm talking to a person because I have requested something from him [TS]
00:28:21 ◼ ► So it went OK but mostly I was just so startled that I'm not entirely sure really what happened. [TS]
00:28:33 ◼ ► No no I would feel really weird if people asked for selfies. I think that's I'm kind of with the with the Louis C.K. [TS]
00:28:41 ◼ ► Opinion on this one that it's just it's like a weird it's a weird not normal human interaction [TS]
00:28:49 ◼ ► Video I don't know if you've seen the new autograph isn't Sophie So it's like I just replaced autographs. [TS]
00:28:56 ◼ ► Yeah but I think the I think autograph thing is weird too. I don't you think in a year. [TS]
00:29:02 ◼ ► and then I mean you know again this is just I'm just I'm just the worst person to have any kind of Internet fame at all [TS]
00:29:11 ◼ ► because I was like I really like my job but I do I do kind of look. Look at fame as a real downside of the job. [TS]
00:29:22 ◼ ► So this happens to be totally fine but I think it was partly fine because he didn't say oh can I get your autograph. [TS]
00:29:34 ◼ ► It was as normal of a of an interaction as it could possibly be between two humans. [TS]
00:29:39 ◼ ► So I think that's also partly why it went well. So it was it was a very good meeting to be my first meeting in public. [TS]
00:29:46 ◼ ► He treated you gently for your first time. Yes he said he did treat it just sounds sounds like a good one. [TS]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Small scale celebrity and something that would happen to me when I was teaching as if I was just out with my wife. [TS]
00:30:07 ◼ ► Sometimes students would see us and just like yell from across the street you know Mr Grey [TS]
00:30:17 ◼ ► and I think teachers in a way who live near where their students are have a tiny view into what real celebrity life is [TS]
00:30:27 ◼ ► and you can't you can't have a normal day out people are just going to yell at you from across the street [TS]
00:30:37 ◼ ► That's partly why I'm more sensitive than to this the most the people I know feel like I've had a tiny taste of it in [TS]
00:30:49 ◼ ► and I wanted to bring it up because it was on my mind I had a I had a teacher a long time ago he was my year seven [TS]
00:31:02 ◼ ► That was most memorable to me and it was about a month or two ago actually I decided to Google him [TS]
00:31:10 ◼ ► This is not the teacher that I made video a video about on parody videos by the way this is a different picture as [TS]
00:31:16 ◼ ► when you're seventy. Anyway today I went on Facebook and I found out that he just died. [TS]
00:31:26 ◼ ► and they saw his picture in my Facebook page and I was the first time I've seen him since he was seven [TS]
00:31:30 ◼ ► and someone had written Mr McCarthy His name has died and write little tribute to him [TS]
00:31:39 ◼ ► and I want to I want to say rest in peace Mr McCarthy He was a really memorable take ship he was really memorable for [TS]
00:31:52 ◼ ► He was notorious for and in fact he was he was a little bit he was a little bit violent. [TS]
00:32:00 ◼ ► And I don't think you'd get away with doing what he did in many circumstances because it has strict [TS]
00:32:06 ◼ ► and has strict he was but he really instilled amazing discipline in the students and he just tore [TS]
00:32:22 ◼ ► and get your your kid into Mr McCarthy's year seven class other than the other seven glasses because it was it would [TS]
00:32:29 ◼ ► and it really changed my life having him as a teacher not least of which I am a very accomplished juggler because of Mr [TS]
00:32:36 ◼ ► McCarthy anyone who was taught by Mr McCarthy is a very skillful juggler and that was also in the comments on Facebook. [TS]
00:32:42 ◼ ► I would always end with and he taught me to juggle he taught everyone to juggle he thought it was an important skill [TS]
00:32:48 ◼ ► and they are Mr McAfee he just died. Teachers make a mark and some teachers make their mark. Yeah not all teachers. [TS]
00:32:58 ◼ ► I mean how many teachers are out. I don't know it but you know I could probably name them all and I can't name them. [TS]
00:33:05 ◼ ► There's a lot of people I've met my last name most of the teachers I think you can name the ones that you can remember. [TS]
00:33:18 ◼ ► but I would know you're way over estimating how many teachers you actually remember versus how many teachers you've had. [TS]
00:33:25 ◼ ► Do you feel like you're one of those pictures are they going to be kids that they are in twenty years that are talking [TS]
00:33:34 ◼ ► but that's I feel like that's not that's not for me to judge you know like yeah that was an awkward question. [TS]
00:33:50 ◼ ► I mean I can do you want that do you want to be that like is that what teachers aspire today do you want like the [TS]
00:34:01 ◼ ► and I ask you I mean I think that's the kind of thing that keeps you going in a difficult job is people like to think [TS]
00:34:12 ◼ ► My opinion on this is it is just good to expose kids to lots of different kinds of adults. [TS]
00:34:21 ◼ ► Right so you see you mention your Mr McCarthy He was he was a very strict disciplinarian [TS]
00:34:29 ◼ ► Lots of schools have teachers who are really laid back teachers who are really into their subject teachers who aren't I [TS]
00:34:34 ◼ ► think it's good for kids just to interact with a whole bunch of different adults because kids just will click with one [TS]
00:34:43 ◼ ► kind or another and that's something I was kind of aware of as a teacher that you can see how [TS]
00:34:58 ◼ ► I reacted very well to my style of teaching who didn't react well to other teachers and vice versa. [TS]
00:35:05 ◼ ► So I think it's almost like it's not is not dependent on the teacher it's dependent on the particular interaction [TS]
00:35:14 ◼ ► and the kind of teacher I mean this is we've talked about this before this is like I would not like to lie to my [TS]
00:35:23 ◼ ► students so I would tell them things like oh you're never going to need any of this ever again which some kids would [TS]
00:35:28 ◼ ► find horrifying and react very badly to. But certain kinds of kids would react exceedingly well to that. [TS]
00:35:38 ◼ ► or like us pavers that what Mr Gray Mr Gray is the guy that you know tells it like it is or tells the truth [TS]
00:35:46 ◼ ► But does it do to the teachers know what they are what you talked about just for the Ariens [TS]
00:36:00 ◼ ► In this prison together and we heard like this things we all have to do and let's just get through this together. [TS]
00:36:11 ◼ ► I never I never hid from them that I go when things go wrong at the school sometimes like with assemblies [TS]
00:36:30 ◼ ► and I know that that work with some kids because more than a few times there were as there were how to put this [TS]
00:36:36 ◼ ► but there was a certain kind of kid who when they were thinking about universities [TS]
00:36:41 ◼ ► and future jobs they would come talk to me because they wanted some advice about the working world from a teacher who [TS]
00:36:48 ◼ ► wasn't just going to say I go do what you love because you know I made it pretty clear that I thought that was just [TS]
00:36:57 ◼ ► and I'm on your all I want I want to be really clear here I want to be really clear I was not a buddy [TS]
00:37:02 ◼ ► and I kept it a very clear distance. But it doesn't hurt at all to be able to say I like it. [TS]
00:37:15 ◼ ► Nothing spells death for teachers and I hate to say it as well for parents than like wanting to be buddies [TS]
00:37:27 ◼ ► Teachers that really want to be liked by the kids I was always pretty indifferent in many ways to the kids like I [TS]
00:37:42 ◼ ► but I would always tell them to be like oh you remember us forever at the end of the year the kids are always pushing [TS]
00:37:49 ◼ ► and I would always say no I probably won't remember you very well in a couple years [TS]
00:37:54 ◼ ► and they know it's not sure you'll remember us and say well actually now it's years later and I don't. [TS]
00:38:03 ◼ ► I remember when I went back and so missed it and I ski he was my year eleven twelve. [TS]
00:38:08 ◼ ► Physics chemistry teacher and we made a video with him for periodic videos I went back with the professor [TS]
00:38:16 ◼ ► and one of the things that did strike me was how little he remembered of me like the professor I think I asked him some [TS]
00:38:23 ◼ ► leading questions like Oh you talk radio now he makes these chemistry videos what was he like as a student [TS]
00:38:32 ◼ ► and play all these crazy anecdotes of things I used to do little mannerisms I had that he used to like or funny things. [TS]
00:38:46 ◼ ► and he was friends with my mom my mom was a teacher at the school that would at least give me a helping hand [TS]
00:38:54 ◼ ► and I thought like you know I thought we had this friendship forged in blood that couldn't be broken sort of like fame [TS]
00:39:02 ◼ ► it's this weird asymmetric relationship where kids have far fewer teachers than teachers have students that they're [TS]
00:39:08 ◼ ► that they're looking out for and I should I should tell you how many kids I actually taught over my career [TS]
00:39:16 ◼ ► but you know with hundreds of kids and if I sat down now and tried to write the names of kids that I had taught. [TS]
00:39:26 ◼ ► I'm not sure I could hit ten kids but I would remember by name you know and they actually put a face to them [TS]
00:39:35 ◼ ► but it was funny that kids always expected that they would be immortalized forever in my memory. [TS]
00:39:40 ◼ ► And honest to god like after a summer I would forget some of the kids I teach the same class in like Year nine [TS]
00:39:48 ◼ ► and they'd come back in year ten and I'd have to bring out my old flash cards with their face [TS]
00:39:52 ◼ ► and their name you know to get ready for the year coming out like God who is this. [TS]
00:40:03 ◼ ► What's a good thing I broke my arm on that camp because that's how I got burned in his memory you know if I see any end [TS]
00:40:12 ◼ ► but you know I was just like the head boy of the school I was at he was in charge of discipline so I like Ah so all [TS]
00:40:22 ◼ ► I used to tell parents at parents' evening which by the way I did I really I was really like parents' evening it was [TS]
00:40:29 ◼ ► but particularly whatever the first parents' evening was it would be like six weeks into the year it was absurdly soon [TS]
00:40:38 ◼ ► but by my standard line to the parents was always like look if I don't know who your kid is at this meeting right now [TS]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and I'm just referring to the book that's a good thing because the only kids I know who they are right away are the [TS]
00:41:01 ◼ ► or four classes like if I know your kid's name today where not having a happy conversation. [TS]
00:41:07 ◼ ► So the fact that I you know I don't know who little Susie is except for these numbers on a spreadsheet. [TS]
00:41:12 ◼ ► That's nothing but good news and bad and I have to say parents are always really receptive to that. [TS]
00:41:18 ◼ ► I found if you were just really up front with people like I don't know your kid is. [TS]
00:41:22 ◼ ► I did have a bunch of boxes of the numbers and that you can understand that right. [TS]
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00:44:00 ◼ ► All of recognition which we were talking about before going to have to cut the tangents you would use they want to talk [TS]
00:44:15 ◼ ► and I have had a settled enough schedule now that within the past several weeks all of a sudden all of the people at my [TS]
00:44:33 ◼ ► They don't they don't know me as C G P gray but it's the I can walk in and the girls like oh hi. [TS]
00:44:40 ◼ ► You know let me get you what you normally get. And it just it has all happened everywhere all of a sudden. [TS]
00:44:47 ◼ ► And that's not just I was and it's not a nice thing. I can't go to any of these places anymore. [TS]
00:44:52 ◼ ► Now this is this crazy crisis. This is what a community is people speak of people who long for that. [TS]
00:45:01 ◼ ► People now say whatever happened to the good old days where people knew each other by face and name [TS]
00:45:06 ◼ ► and knew what each other like and you know you're lucky lucky you getting a taste of that in a big city like London. [TS]
00:45:20 ◼ ► but I have already burned through a couple of them where they recognize me as the person I figure as soon as I walk in [TS]
00:45:33 ◼ ► and I have to wait until it's long enough that they've forgotten who I am or there's a there's a change of staff. [TS]
00:45:45 ◼ ► No room now because look look I'm from all I can think of for example is dailies in New York if you go to order a deli [TS]
00:45:54 ◼ ► sandwich in New York even if you go to the same place every day the guy behind the counter. [TS]
00:46:03 ◼ ► Even if he sees you all the time because they are great about actually moving the line like we've got to keep making [TS]
00:46:13 ◼ ► and they just keep moving you through so they're there can be a little bit of efficiency like Right yeah two eggs [TS]
00:46:18 ◼ ► and bacon cheese on a roll sesame roll great boom done you know move down there pay for it pick it up find is like in [TS]
00:46:30 ◼ ► They want to have like a little chat now and so there's they go oh how how is your day doing [TS]
00:46:38 ◼ ► So that's what you're running away from social interaction let's not have a pretend conversation about how my day is [TS]
00:46:48 ◼ ► and we have to like can't we just stand here in silence while you know you run my credit card or I order the food [TS]
00:46:55 ◼ ► or something isn't that much better when we both kind of like look away from each other [TS]
00:47:04 ◼ ► and so basically you're thinking oh this is good I'll just go through fifty thousand credit card transactions [TS]
00:47:13 ◼ ► or shared the joy of my time on earth with other human beings if I'm getting a sandwich I just want to get the sandwich [TS]
00:47:21 ◼ ► Here's the thing it can't be a real it's never going to be a real social interaction between you [TS]
00:47:26 ◼ ► and the other person so it has to be this like horribly painful pretend social interaction [TS]
00:47:34 ◼ ► or six years it would develop into the White House now you know it can't possibly You can't possibly know it's not [TS]
00:47:47 ◼ ► and I think that's wonderful because you get to know people and they get to know your dogs [TS]
00:47:51 ◼ ► and no new carpet so would you have actually doing all last winter we could go and she was playing with a black dog [TS]
00:48:00 ◼ ► The majors and you comment on the weather or the car parking or the trays and I say all right I love it. [TS]
00:48:05 ◼ ► That is also that is also an entirely different scenario because you're walking the dog it's kind of explicitly on a [TS]
00:48:12 ◼ ► break to interact with people I could see I could see walking a dog through a park and talking to people [TS]
00:48:20 ◼ ► but it's the it's the pretend social interaction at a kind of commercial exchange. [TS]
00:48:28 ◼ ► and then get on with whatever I'm doing is just as fast as humanly possible. That's what I that's what I'm there for. [TS]
00:48:35 ◼ ► I used to go to this bar in Nottingham and at the time my drink was gin and tonic and I used to go to clubs [TS]
00:48:46 ◼ ► and for some reason I don't like that I like being put in the edge to give it a lie maybe [TS]
00:48:50 ◼ ► but that would always make my chin and tonic and then I would just take out the line between my fingers my thumb [TS]
00:49:06 ◼ ► I don't ever forget when I was there about I was packed and they were you know hundreds of people ordered drinks [TS]
00:49:11 ◼ ► and I was a gin and tonic and there was a new woman was working behind the bar and she made my gin and tonic [TS]
00:49:16 ◼ ► and she put a lime in and one of the other bartenders leaned across to her and said he doesn't have limes in it. [TS]
00:49:26 ◼ ► Like it was like it's like ultimate customer service like you know this is this is also you know they even know how I [TS]
00:49:34 ◼ ► like my drink and if they don't and if one of the others doesn't roam it's like self correcting as well like. [TS]
00:49:44 ◼ ► If I could just get the benefits without the downsides I would be I would be on board with this as well if I didn't [TS]
00:49:51 ◼ ► and they'd have the thing that be great because I am a creature of habit so I do stuff the same all the time. But yeah. [TS]
00:50:00 ◼ ► While any more and I'm I'm running out of places this is the problem I think that's really sad [TS]
00:50:04 ◼ ► and I think you shouldn't feel that way. Let me tell you a story that you will feel the saddest about them OK. [TS]
00:50:19 ◼ ► and the dude ahead of me on line was one of these people who does a very good critics saying in life which is if [TS]
00:50:28 ◼ ► everybody around you is an asshole you're actually the asshole where if absolutely everybody else seems to be causing [TS]
00:50:39 ◼ ► And this guy just you could just tell right away he's one of these people who is just a jerk and [TS]
00:50:47 ◼ ► and so he got into a disagreement with the guy behind the counter at the Starbucks. [TS]
00:50:53 ◼ ► Over some nonsense like a credit card transaction or whatever it was I can't quite remember the details anymore [TS]
00:51:01 ◼ ► and the Starbucks guy was doing everything he could to possibly placate that person [TS]
00:51:06 ◼ ► but the guy ended up being like OK I know I happen to work at this big company and give me your name [TS]
00:51:17 ◼ ► So you take the big fuss and after he left I told the Starbucks guy oh hey why don't you give me your name as well. [TS]
00:51:26 ◼ ► Give me an email address so I can write to them and say look I was online I saw this altercation [TS]
00:51:32 ◼ ► and this guy was totally just a jerk and the manager handled it very well which was the case. [TS]
00:51:43 ◼ ► and said Oh thanks yes we had a report from this other person apparently like some something actually happened. [TS]
00:51:49 ◼ ► And then from that point on this guy in Starbucks was the nicest guy in the world to me. Every time I went in. [TS]
00:52:00 ◼ ► He would make sure that everybody else put my drink right to the front of the line like [TS]
00:52:04 ◼ ► and all I got I just I don't want I don't want this special treatment I don't want this special treatment please don't [TS]
00:52:15 ◼ ► and I haven't actually figured out what days he works he works there on Fridays and on the weekends [TS]
00:52:22 ◼ ► and as far as I know I haven't been back to that Starbucks in I think about two and a half years now on a Friday [TS]
00:52:35 ◼ ► or the weekend I'm going to the for the one I just can't do it so the bottom line of this is that no good deed goes [TS]
00:52:47 ◼ ► PROFESSOR MIKE MURPHY I would say you know I've met a few times yes he's in a bunch and some videos. [TS]
00:53:03 ◼ ► and the place got held up the guy came in with a gun held up place you know Rob you know you know police came all that [TS]
00:53:19 ◼ ► And Mike was saying hey he still goes back to that garage all the time and Busfield [TS]
00:53:25 ◼ ► and they say this kind of this this sort of weirdness between I'm the guy that was standing in the court at the time [TS]
00:53:37 ◼ ► and they kind of it's always going to be there because they went through this thing together they don't know each other [TS]
00:53:42 ◼ ► or anything they don't know each other they were just two guys in the room when the when the gunman came in. [TS]
00:53:49 ◼ ► I could never go back. Yeah I think that's that's that's follow up Odom. Oh good good. In just just on the air. [TS]
00:54:01 ◼ ► but yeah I think maybe yeah I hope so I think it took us a little long to get actually started we were ladies [TS]
00:54:07 ◼ ► and gentlemen if you're listening to this broadcast and it's been going for an hour. [TS]
00:54:11 ◼ ► Gray has not done his job I don't think I think we have a good ten minutes at least to probably cut out a little you [TS]
00:54:19 ◼ ► know about feeling Malone's talk about being in a really boring way. Well we'll see how it goes. Oh I'm sorry. [TS]
00:54:41 ◼ ► but if I don't mention it people will ask about a plane crash going to I know you don't like a plane crashed on [TS]
00:54:49 ◼ ► or is it like I just saw on Twitter people are saying is like some horrible print plane crash you don't need to talk [TS]
00:54:59 ◼ ► Like I Don't you know what the point of plane crash corner is I don't really understand why it exists [TS]
00:55:22 ◼ ► and to let people know we're not going to do a plane crash going to today we don't have to talk about every horrible [TS]
00:55:38 ◼ ► and acknowledge what a tremendous mistake it was of me to ask everyone who wasn't on a plane to send us a tweet to say [TS]
00:55:51 ◼ ► but I didn't think people would take it so seriously I thought people would listen and have a chuckle [TS]
00:55:56 ◼ ► and think Imagine if people did that wouldn't it be funny and like get on with their life. [TS]
00:56:09 ◼ ► but you basically made my Twitter unusable for a day and a half. I've just the gist of so many replies. [TS]
00:56:20 ◼ ► If I was going to be on Twitter more I would have had to set up an actual filter you know to try like clear all of this [TS]
00:56:28 ◼ ► all of this stuff but you can have a podcast with as many listeners as we have now [TS]
00:56:32 ◼ ► and ask them all like every single one of them to tweet at you you know since when since [TS]
00:56:39 ◼ ► OK Can I just say to all the people out there listening can you also please subscribe to my number for our You Tube [TS]
00:56:45 ◼ ► channel and periodic videos and sixty symbols and sign up to my patriarch and hello internet Patria on [TS]
00:57:05 ◼ ► but you know what you're going have to live with this mistake for forever because just like just like we got the St [TS]
00:57:13 ◼ ► or whatever from people who listen chronologically for the rest of time are going to tweet at us [TS]
00:57:20 ◼ ► when they get to that point to go I'm not on a plane right now and it's five years in the future [TS]
00:57:28 ◼ ► and we're still getting tweets from people about how they're not on airplanes. That's what you've done. [TS]
00:57:33 ◼ ► when exist anymore people be like well of course I'm not an airplane that they haven't existed since the year twenty [TS]
00:57:48 ◼ ► and that you can't rewrite history that that particular pod cast for various reasons was an editing disaster that I [TS]
00:58:01 ◼ ► but I might have to at some point if it's any consolation it was worse for me because you did not [TS]
00:58:08 ◼ ► and I don't carry is not any consolation the fact that it was worse for you doesn't make me feel any better that you [TS]
00:58:13 ◼ ► got what you deserve is what that is. I wish it was a hundred times worse for you keeping anything main to me Greg. [TS]
00:58:20 ◼ ► Because you know what you know I want you to be nice to me though in that I should be nicer to Brady. [TS]
00:58:28 ◼ ► No she didn't she said that you were good because you were nice to me in the last part. [TS]
00:58:32 ◼ ► Yes but since that was the feedback from my mom was that she liked it when I'm nice to you and she doesn't like it [TS]
00:58:36 ◼ ► when I'm not nice to you. Well it's been nice to pray to and to say something nice Come on. [TS]
00:58:45 ◼ ► I like doing the podcast with you Brady. That's what I wanted to hear even if you cause me trouble on Twitter. [TS]
00:59:07 ◼ ► I somehow I didn't think this was unique to me just from a special. Take the rough with the snows. Yeah I guess so. [TS]
00:59:16 ◼ ► Well saying we're not going to do a plane crash Kona how that we do. I Phone cord with C.D.P. [TS]
00:59:23 ◼ ► Gray Oh I see now this now this is a corner I can get excited for go and then you know how everyone loves it [TS]
00:59:31 ◼ ► when we talk about Apple products especially people especially all those Android users because especially useful for [TS]
00:59:38 ◼ ► them because they know less about Apple products so it's like more informative for them. [TS]
00:59:42 ◼ ► Yes they're the ones who like most I imagine it is extra it is extra happy for Android users. [TS]
00:59:49 ◼ ► I've gotten so much just as a side note here I've gotten so much angry Android email from people because in my last [TS]
00:59:58 ◼ ► video I mentioned two videos ago I'm. And those bring the video up on i Tunes and an R.S.S. [TS]
01:00:03 ◼ ► but It was like i Tunes It was some kind of trigger word where they couldn't possibly hear the fact that R.S.S. [TS]
01:00:12 ◼ ► Loaded with e-mails from angry people about how they can't believe that I'm supporting Apple [TS]
01:00:17 ◼ ► and why I want to put it on the Google store and I'm like dude half the video was about how it's on R.S.S. [TS]
01:00:25 ◼ ► but I swear it's like people's brains just turned off as soon as they heard our i Tunes It was just me maybe basically [TS]
01:00:31 ◼ ► said hey did you try talking really fast and did you know that my videos are going to be on i Tunes [TS]
01:00:40 ◼ ► And our success and I was well I didn't get a one apology email if that was the case but. [TS]
01:00:47 ◼ ► That'll teach me if I'm ever going to mention something that is on Apple and something else I'm going to reverse it [TS]
01:00:54 ◼ ► and I think that's the way I'm going to have to do it if I don't want to get just so many angry angry people [TS]
01:01:02 ◼ ► but the way that that's a site where they want to go over all those people we're going talk about i Phones now. [TS]
01:01:07 ◼ ► Go on then you know OK I'll be happy to have me talk about it because you know how I feel about my eyesight. [TS]
01:01:19 ◼ ► and I have both been frustrated with our i Phone six is since they came out I think it's fair to say. [TS]
01:01:24 ◼ ► Yeah I presume that you still feel resentful I think with the last word you used to describe your feelings toward your [TS]
01:01:30 ◼ ► i Phone without the case yeah you know it's kind of I kind of feel about the i Phone the way you do about that on [TS]
01:01:55 ◼ ► and as I mentioned every time I picked it up I thought it was like a little a little. [TS]
01:02:04 ◼ ► As you know this is just the right size I can use in my hand and I've tried everything. I like the D. [TS]
01:02:14 ◼ ► but I kept finding myself like you just not liking the phone just just how it's the wrong size. [TS]
01:02:25 ◼ ► and so I thought I have to make a change here. You did not I can't I can't live like this anymore.. [TS]
01:02:35 ◼ ► Tell me tell me you didn't did you. What do you think I did. Has he gone down to a five S. [TS]
01:02:43 ◼ ► I actually went up to a six plus idiot. Did you discover it yet. OK OK So listen listen hold up hold up. [TS]
01:03:01 ◼ ► I kept picking up my wife's old phone and really liking it. Do you realize that's smaller than your phone. [TS]
01:03:10 ◼ ► But so I also every single time I walk by an Apple store I would look at the six plus [TS]
01:03:16 ◼ ► and every time I would look at the six plus I thought this phone is just ridiculous. It's like a boat. It's so huge. [TS]
01:03:31 ◼ ► and I've been doing this ever since it came out right for four months now since September [TS]
01:03:41 ◼ ► and I was coming to the point where I thought I'm going to have to do something about this because I just don't like [TS]
01:03:51 ◼ ► OK Well I don't know I don't want to do that like step backwards in technology and then. [TS]
01:03:54 ◼ ► Well Apple's left anyway on their rockets be shipped to the future and they're not dealing with smaller phones. [TS]
01:04:07 ◼ ► A friend of mine Mike Hurley who runs the excellent relay podcast network here in London Mike has been pushing the six [TS]
01:04:20 ◼ ► and trying to get everybody on the six plus train so I've been listening to him talk about this on podcasts for a while [TS]
01:04:27 ◼ ► and I've been listening to him talk about it in person when we've met up a couple of times [TS]
01:04:32 ◼ ► and I thought you know what you know what I'm going to give it a try. There's a fourteen day return policy. [TS]
01:04:40 ◼ ► I mean you take Mike's advice I'm going to buy the six plus and just try using it for a little while to see how it is. [TS]
01:04:47 ◼ ► And I'm here to say that Mike was right and I love my six plus I am totally on board with this phone. [TS]
01:04:58 ◼ ► In just the way that you should be with an Apple product I have no ambivalence about it whatsoever [TS]
01:05:08 ◼ ► So what about I guess you don't talk on your phone a lot I one of them when you hold it up to your face [TS]
01:05:12 ◼ ► and it's like pressing a dinner plate up against your ear. I almost never talk on the phone. [TS]
01:05:18 ◼ ► Well if you know the talk as a phone I start to see the sense in that because then it's just becoming a small i Pad OK [TS]
01:05:25 ◼ ► if you but if you want to use as a phone or if you're an action man who's hard as nails and you know gets out [TS]
01:05:31 ◼ ► and about and does things you've got this huge massive rectangle in your pocket while you crawling around under CA's [TS]
01:05:40 ◼ ► Right right I just I just I so I can if it's just you sitting in Starbucks he uses it like an i Pad anyway [TS]
01:05:51 ◼ ► but anyway keep talking Now it's interesting because I actually use my phone almost entirely in transit because I have [TS]
01:05:58 ◼ ► an i Pad with me a lot of time. I'm going I'm working or if I'm going out for the day. [TS]
01:06:02 ◼ ► So it's not like I'm sitting down like I'm going to work I'll take out the actual i Pad And if I'm at home I'll use my [TS]
01:06:08 ◼ ► computer or an i Pad so I still use my phone very much the way I used to use my old one which is in between locations. [TS]
01:06:16 ◼ ► But what I find is you have hit on the exact point which I think makes it very very palatable which is the i Phone six. [TS]
01:06:29 ◼ ► It's just a little too big to type kind of comfortably I can't quite use things one handed. [TS]
01:06:35 ◼ ► It's all frustrating but my brain treats the six plus as like oh this is a micro i Pad [TS]
01:06:46 ◼ ► All of the frustrations of the phone are gone because some part of my brain is just keep thinking US isn't a phone this [TS]
01:06:54 ◼ ► is a this is an i Pad micro It will be of course you wouldn't try to use it in the same one handed reach the screen [TS]
01:07:00 ◼ ► everywhere way that you would with a phone because it's not a phone it's a tie and it sounds silly [TS]
01:07:06 ◼ ► but that has completely changed my experience and I don't know why and I can imagine [TS]
01:07:11 ◼ ► and I can imagine that because it's like the six hasn't quite decided what it wants to pay [TS]
01:07:15 ◼ ► and that causes me problems because I think I said to me another time when I'm using it it's like I have. [TS]
01:07:21 ◼ ► It's like I have cognitive problems using it like I used to be really quick at using my brains you know right [TS]
01:07:28 ◼ ► and I press this and do that move this and when I use this one it's like I'm like What am I doing what am I pressing [TS]
01:07:36 ◼ ► Yes And I think it's just because I can't you know it's not because I have changed it's just that it makes me it makes [TS]
01:07:48 ◼ ► or doing other things are frustrating as of the big change with the pot with the six plus that I use a two handed way [TS]
01:07:53 ◼ ► more because it's just bigger but the experience is much better because when I'm holding the like I can. [TS]
01:08:04 ◼ ► but the vast majority of the time there's something on the screen and you're holding the phone [TS]
01:08:11 ◼ ► and your brain says well you can't possibly hit that button in the top corner this is what your other hand is for. [TS]
01:08:21 ◼ ► and it's a satisfactory experience whereas on the i Phone six Everything is just reachable but in a clumsy way [TS]
01:08:29 ◼ ► or a you know you have to try to manipulate one handed to do it in a very awkward way so the experience is terrible [TS]
01:08:35 ◼ ► every time but you can just do stuff I use the i Phone Plus two handed walking around all the time [TS]
01:08:45 ◼ ► So I have to say if anybody out there who was incredibly frustrated with their i Phone six the six plus that is that is [TS]
01:08:53 ◼ ► the way of the future try it just this is my recommendation is put away your old phone [TS]
01:08:59 ◼ ► and just use the i Phone six exclusively for a while and you will get used to it so quickly for six plus years. [TS]
01:09:08 ◼ ► Yes Are the six plus is what I mean you will get you will get used to the six plus so quickly if you put away your i [TS]
01:09:15 ◼ ► and just last week I think I've had I think I've had the phone for about three weeks or a month now. [TS]
01:09:22 ◼ ► And just a week ago I picked up my wife's phone that I hadn't happened to touch for a while [TS]
01:09:29 ◼ ► and that was the moment I knew that I had made the right decision because I picked up my wife's phone [TS]
01:09:36 ◼ ► and it was it was no more ambivalent I was like No I'm on I'm on the right path with my Apple decision [TS]
01:09:42 ◼ ► and the other thing I like about this is that I'm now on the same page with the kind of decisions that Apple makes [TS]
01:09:52 ◼ ► and lighter which I always found frustrating with the phones because I thought I want more battery. [TS]
01:10:03 ◼ ► Yes Apple let's make this phone a little smaller a little thinner and a little lighter [TS]
01:10:07 ◼ ► and I'm happy to keep the battery life the same because it is noticeably longer with the battery. [TS]
01:10:15 ◼ ► I happen to have a really really intense day with a phone because I had a kind of overnight trip that I had to do [TS]
01:10:22 ◼ ► and so I was just incredibly active on the phone one particular day I was amazed that I made it through the entire day [TS]
01:10:32 ◼ ► I would have been stranded halfway through trying to find an Apple store to buy a charger. [TS]
01:10:36 ◼ ► But the six plus had enough battery to last me through a whole bunch of Wilbur's and video and photos an e-mail [TS]
01:11:02 ◼ ► but I feel like you always want a lot of information from me Brady do you want to know all of my new purchase [TS]
01:11:27 ◼ ► Yeah well you know damn well what I'm actually going to try to film is stuff for hello internet. [TS]
01:11:33 ◼ ► Since we're so far behind on the You Tube version I thought oh I can try this little tripod [TS]
01:11:38 ◼ ► and a nice lens to see if I can get a couple of like timelapse city shots to use for the You Tube channel [TS]
01:11:44 ◼ ► but also we were doing my office toys and things you're thinking of moving away from all those little desk toys [TS]
01:11:49 ◼ ► and that on the You Tube channel all I know is that the videos come from you very slowly so I thought I'd take things [TS]
01:12:06 ◼ ► OK so where the purchase is my Would you like to know what have I bought recently that Brady should know about. [TS]
01:12:14 ◼ ► and i Phone six plus cancer is what he should tell me about considering unlike a guy you talk about i Phones with all [TS]
01:12:24 ◼ ► and I think you know keeping secrets just so we can talk about them on the podcast I'm not I'm not keeping secrets just [TS]
01:12:31 ◼ ► You know who I also didn't tell my wife she didn't notice that I had a new phone for I think it was ten days before she [TS]
01:12:39 ◼ ► She came home and I actually had both phones in front of me because I was transferring stuff from one to the other [TS]
01:12:44 ◼ ► and she happened to not notice and then I thought I wonder how long it will take her to not notice [TS]
01:12:50 ◼ ► And what you shouldn't say Oh she was just really interested as she was also shocked she couldn't believe that I bought [TS]
01:12:56 ◼ ► it but because you bought a new phone you didn't tell me that's all you did notice at first [TS]
01:13:00 ◼ ► and now always it's interesting to see how long this is going to take I had a funny incident a couple of nights ago [TS]
01:13:05 ◼ ► with my wife where I couldn't wait I had best tell you about it because I just know how disapproving you would have [TS]
01:13:11 ◼ ► paid and have it was something it was finally something my wife and I do have in common when it comes to technology. [TS]
01:13:17 ◼ ► She was sitting on the sofa trying to do something and she had an app open on her i Pad [TS]
01:13:28 ◼ ► and like transferring information between the two that a reading of one and typing into the other [TS]
01:13:33 ◼ ► and I was like What are you just going to get you know your laptop she's got like a map OK well he's going to get that [TS]
01:13:39 ◼ ► you know you realize you can have two applications open at the same time on that rather than this weird scenario where [TS]
01:13:44 ◼ ► she was holding two screens in either hand and she was like oh I would except it's like full [TS]
01:13:49 ◼ ► and every time I open a message comes up saying it's full of the hard drive thing. Yes. [TS]
01:13:54 ◼ ► So instead of like dealing with that she's to stop using that altogether and there she is. [TS]
01:14:00 ◼ ► Like her phone and i Pad is that you know as opposed to the windows that she moved between [TS]
01:14:06 ◼ ► and I think that that's my gal. That's something I would never does that sound exactly like something you would do. [TS]
01:14:12 ◼ ► Yeah. Yeah. Anyway are you going to get a six plus That's all I want to know what you think. [TS]
01:14:25 ◼ ► It does it does convincing the only thing I remain unconvinced by though is like wearing a nice pair of fashionable [TS]
01:14:34 ◼ ► and having this whopping great rectangle like a miniature football field sticking out of my trousers you know I if I [TS]
01:14:42 ◼ ► just think it fits in my pocket just it's in my genes and it just fits in my genes [TS]
01:14:47 ◼ ► and I am aware that if it moves to the front to the front of the leg that I've I've developed this habit of kind of [TS]
01:14:54 ◼ ► pushing it to the side unconsciously before I sit down if it's right on the front of my leg because then it is a little [TS]
01:15:00 ◼ ► too big but if you try it I really think you will see that it is not as big as you think it is. [TS]
01:15:12 ◼ ► So I think I'll use my phone differently to you as well though that I want to be I was held in one hand he could just [TS]
01:15:19 ◼ ► pick something I thought I thought I was this guy as well in a one handed usage was it was hugely important to me [TS]
01:15:30 ◼ ► OK but your phones modifying your behavior so like Shouldn't of should the phone set the behaviour we would like. [TS]
01:15:39 ◼ ► but I have I have made small sacrifices in one handed use which turns out to be not as important as I thought it was [TS]
01:15:52 ◼ ► So it seems like it's a great it's a great tradeoff to me this is a hard task before you want to. [TS]
01:16:02 ◼ ► and if you want one handed use you have to buy a five to four inch phone like the i Phone five style. [TS]
01:16:10 ◼ ► If if you want one handed use that is the phone that you should buy. And if you're willing to let that go. [TS]
01:16:16 ◼ ► The six plus gives you huge advantages but I am more and more convinced that the six is the phone for nobody. [TS]
01:16:29 ◼ ► and that's why we have both found it so frustrating. Over the past several months I also love the horizontal mode. [TS]
01:16:35 ◼ ► I mean I've always wanted to use my phone and horizontal and so I use this one in a horizontal just all the time [TS]
01:16:45 ◼ ► It is just the greatest and you know I can do real work on this phone in a way that I wouldn't do my other phone. [TS]
01:16:50 ◼ ► I love it I really recommend it. Mike was right. I just want the technology to go away a bit. [TS]
01:17:02 ◼ ► and I'm having a bit of a technology for take time to be honest I think I think a nice bus would really fix that for [TS]
01:17:08 ◼ ► you now you know it's going to fix it for me. Well a week on a beach in Australia. [TS]
01:17:20 ◼ ► Well actually it's coming a bit too quickly now a kind of no work done but that's another story. [TS]
01:17:24 ◼ ► Yes this is the this is the problem of being self employed is oh my vacation I have to pay for that in advance [TS]
01:17:35 ◼ ► Yes yeah that's what that's what my wife says she says going away for a week she's all well and good [TS]
01:17:41 ◼ ► but it's not just going away for a week it's been two or three weeks of pain afterwards. [TS]
01:17:49 ◼ ► and I have had this trip coming up for me on my gotta get ready for list for six weeks now to have everything set up in [TS]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Many many advantages but carefree vacations is definitely not one of them not one of them. [TS]
01:18:08 ◼ ► Well this episode has also been sponsored by our really good friends all go dot com What can I say about them they are [TS]
01:18:22 ◼ ► and well I'm imagining you are going to have to sell you on the benefits of being able to listen to smart stuff [TS]
01:18:29 ◼ ► or well in our case maybe occasionally a bit of dumb stuff we all spend so much time in cars on trains planes [TS]
01:18:37 ◼ ► and maybe doing other things like working out at the gym. Well you probably should be doing that but I'm not really. [TS]
01:18:44 ◼ ► Anyway these potentially tedious times can become really enjoyable with a lot of bull. [TS]
01:18:52 ◼ ► when I have a long day of driving ahead because it means I can do some hardcore listening with no distractions. [TS]
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01:19:27 ◼ ► and it was so good they snapped her up and said Come on we're also going to do a book. [TS]
01:19:31 ◼ ► The book's really good it's all about the genuine mathematics that underlies our love lives. [TS]
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01:20:15 ◼ ► I feel that we should talk about the solar eclipse that just happened but I haven't got that much to say about it [TS]
01:20:24 ◼ ► or you already know what I have to say about this one where we a for I happen to actually be online at the U.S. [TS]
01:20:32 ◼ ► Embassy waiting to get into the world. Unfriendly is building to do some fun tax paperwork. [TS]
01:20:40 ◼ ► and I wouldn't have even known if it if it wasn't for like Oh yeah they're in Eclipse going on now [TS]
01:20:53 ◼ ► and trying to convince myself that oh I guess it was a bit dimmer so that was my experience with the eclipse it was [TS]
01:21:05 ◼ ► and I both were it wasn't a total eclipse that was in the sort of eighty's to ninety percent of the sun covered you had [TS]
01:21:12 ◼ ► to go further north to get totality but I got a good look at it and I'm going to eclipse goggles and my camera [TS]
01:21:21 ◼ ► I enjoyed the best part of the eclipse for me was the adorable photograph of Audrey that you sent me with her wearing [TS]
01:21:33 ◼ ► and the moon it was worth it for that adorable doggy photo I have to say I love. I think Eclipse is a brilliant. [TS]
01:21:43 ◼ ► and it remains one of my best work memories like oh yeah I'm like yeah it is there an extraordinary thing to say if you [TS]
01:21:53 ◼ ► if you could look at one properly and it's nothing like on T.V. or Videos or pictures. [TS]
01:22:03 ◼ ► And our American friends will get a chance to experience one in two years. A really good one. [TS]
01:22:12 ◼ ► and they're just special things are neither do you know going to be caught up by the romance of them I can definitely [TS]
01:22:20 ◼ ► I think it's the mathematics of it is is interesting I think we happen to have the lucky ratio in size is between our [TS]
01:22:30 ◼ ► So I can appreciate that but the actual reality of standing in London on a cloudy day waiting in a bureaucratic line [TS]
01:22:39 ◼ ► or that experience was was less than less than awe inspiring. Yeah that's not the fairy tale is no it's not anyway. [TS]
01:22:54 ◼ ► It would pretty much ripped through the whole country right through the guts. So you can tell me then why though. [TS]
01:23:01 ◼ ► Well it's not that why not you got to get you going to get on the line that I'm not aware that where the line Well let [TS]
01:23:08 ◼ ► me call it up isn't there also a place where at last longer than other places in America as you may have learned is [TS]
01:23:17 ◼ ► and I have I told you about that last broadcast don't pretend that you were the one who figured that out through I did [TS]
01:23:25 ◼ ► I needed you to tell me I knew one thousand mile long country is different whether I was said to you [TS]
01:23:31 ◼ ► and I message the path that there's twenty seven tane equips takes from you but it's kind of [TS]
01:23:38 ◼ ► but it's kind of around I think it's kind of think I think we'll still be doing the PA Ghassan twenty seventeen Can we [TS]
01:23:44 ◼ ► have a quick follow up in that time. Wonderful still be doing it. I don't patronize. [TS]
01:23:52 ◼ ► Lettie thing was do you think it has to be going in twenty seven to anything going on and I don't know either. [TS]
01:23:58 ◼ ► Let's see South Carolina. A Tennessee Missouri right across the bay this some pretty unpopulated areas. [TS]
01:24:09 ◼ ► The brag of is that that section of Wyoming man that is an empty empty section Chris was going across because you kind [TS]
01:24:19 ◼ ► of need to choose where to go based on sort of weather as well as I said I think it's more over to the to the west [TS]
01:24:27 ◼ ► where the weather forecast is probably better to look at looks like the residents of Charleston South Carolina are [TS]
01:24:40 ◼ ► Eugene in Portland but neither of those cities actually itself going to be worth it to be worth a look. [TS]
01:24:51 ◼ ► Oh yeah yeah I reckon I reckon you would be to I'm going to put their arm now that you will be in America for the [TS]
01:25:02 ◼ ► Why for the eclipse so I will just happen to be in America at the time all day I think I think he will have a trip to [TS]
01:25:11 ◼ ► and then something will probably be organized that you get on board with do you know something that I don't know it [TS]
01:25:20 ◼ ► Actually I'm having a meeting this week to discuss possible plans but I don't have any specific plans [TS]
01:25:24 ◼ ► but Justin has an arranged some kind of crazy moving follow the eclipse events destines for the on the moon for [TS]
01:25:33 ◼ ► but now I know it and I know he has plans he has plans for the May is already we spoke about it the other day. [TS]
01:25:38 ◼ ► He's he's he's got plans with a mate and of course he does. Course you land ahead for this year seven. [TS]
01:25:45 ◼ ► Anyway the twenty seventh I can't right now maybe we'll have a follow up then. Yeah. Remind us Internet if we forget. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Has been going on that lots of people have been asking about is this new video a service code vessel. [TS]
01:26:30 ◼ ► when there's lots of excitement you know more about it than they like with most things do [TS]
01:26:35 ◼ ► and explain to people what's going on and whether they should be excited or interested. [TS]
01:26:40 ◼ ► I guess you have to be pretty positive about it because two of our best mates are using it [TS]
01:26:44 ◼ ► but I did ask today on Twitter if there were things that people wanted us to talk about [TS]
01:26:52 ◼ ► and everybody everybody wanted to know about vessel so I feel I feel we have some kind of obligation to talk about it [TS]
01:27:08 ◼ ► and we had some talks about possibly being on the platform which obviously I'm not on there now so I decided not to do [TS]
01:27:19 ◼ ► but never quite sure we need to disclose stuff but I'll just mention that at the start of this conversation. [TS]
01:27:23 ◼ ► So I have to say when I first heard about vessel I thought boy this is an interesting idea [TS]
01:27:33 ◼ ► and this has the possibility to be a real You Tube competitor in ways that lots of other things that I have seen do not [TS]
01:27:50 ◼ ► So like Minute Physics they will release their videos on there for some amount of time exclusively. [TS]
01:28:03 ◼ ► or seven days that was one Minute Physics releases a new video you will have to watch it on a vessel if you want to [TS]
01:28:08 ◼ ► watch it within I think Henry doing three days if you want to watch it within that first period after that window of [TS]
01:28:19 ◼ ► and vessel is going to be a subscription service for its members who want to get access to new stuff immediately. [TS]
01:28:52 ◼ ► and if you are willing to wait a little while then you can see shows for free with advertising elsewhere. [TS]
01:28:58 ◼ ► Although I should say the vessel does have advertising even with its membership service just as Hulu has advertising [TS]
01:29:04 ◼ ► with its membership service as well although I think it is less than one hundred percent sure about that. [TS]
01:29:15 ◼ ► and cons I hear what is it do you think it's going to be a raging success do you think going to be a slow then. [TS]
01:29:29 ◼ ► but the vessel doesn't need to be as popular as youtube to be successful because it is a business where it is directly [TS]
01:29:44 ◼ ► and as we have mentioned people just underestimate that on You Tube how like the volume that You Tube deals with in [TS]
01:29:53 ◼ ► terms of used to generate money if you get if you want to make a living just on the You Tube advertising. [TS]
01:30:07 ◼ ► But if you have a business where people are directly paying for something you need orders of magnitude fewer people in [TS]
01:30:18 ◼ ► So a vessel could actually be way more profitable than You Tube with far far fewer viewers. [TS]
01:30:27 ◼ ► Which is one of the reasons why I feel like boy it's an interesting business model [TS]
01:30:30 ◼ ► and it has a lot of potential to succeed maybe not succeed in the sense of it destroys You Tube [TS]
01:30:36 ◼ ► but be an entity that can exist separately from You Tube and also be very successful for the people who are using it [TS]
01:30:44 ◼ ► and for the business itself so that's that's one of the reasons why I think it is just so interesting [TS]
01:30:48 ◼ ► and so different from a lot of the other You Tube competitors stuff that I've seen most of which falls under the [TS]
01:30:57 ◼ ► and grow bigger than You Tube That's that's a tall order to you know to take on You Tube directly where the vessel is [TS]
01:31:11 ◼ ► Yeah you could bring up that you spoke to them which you know are saying you brought it up I'll ask you the obvious [TS]
01:31:19 ◼ ► question why are you not doing it. It's been very interesting just these couple days. [TS]
01:31:24 ◼ ► Because I've got a bunch of feedback from people who who want to know why I'm not on vessel [TS]
01:31:30 ◼ ► or if I'm going to be on vessel and I'm not I'm not saying at this point I'll never be on vessel [TS]
01:31:42 ◼ ► And for me it's partly because over the past several months one of the things I have I've been constantly alluding to [TS]
01:32:00 ◼ ► Or busy and for various reasons I have I have wanted to make sure that my own business is kind of secure [TS]
01:32:11 ◼ ► and independent of other platforms. And so that's one of the reasons why I ultimately decided to go with the R.S.S. [TS]
01:32:19 ◼ ► Syndication of my videos. So this is two of my videos ago. I told people that I'm going to make an R.S.S. [TS]
01:32:28 ◼ ► and just like the podcasts they can get my videos downloaded to their phone or their computer directly [TS]
01:32:34 ◼ ► and this is a system that is directly under my control. I am paying to have these files hosted. [TS]
01:32:45 ◼ ► It's not like I'm going to bank on Vimeo now or I'm going to bank on some additional service. So. [TS]
01:32:52 ◼ ► Even if something like vessel was attractive to me my primary concern is making sure that I have a business that can [TS]
01:33:05 ◼ ► and so that that's why at this stage I've kind of decided to double down on direct support from my fans through things [TS]
01:33:25 ◼ ► and Through email so not having to rely on other platforms you know very cautious Kraven and very smart [TS]
01:33:34 ◼ ► but sometimes I feel a bit like you know the guy who builds a bunker in his backyard because he's scared it's going to [TS]
01:33:40 ◼ ► But no no you know you are you do seem like a barrier sometimes I guess you always use this word worry [TS]
01:33:54 ◼ ► But let's let's put this where I think I am not cautious but people have who have been paying attention to you. [TS]
01:34:00 ◼ ► Do you have noticed that a a decent number of creators in different fields have all recently been trying to diversify [TS]
01:34:16 ◼ ► but they're making sure that they have like a foot halfway out the door with a solid platform to stand on. [TS]
01:34:27 ◼ ► And though there are things we can't talk about directly that does kind of let you know that there are whispers on the [TS]
01:34:34 ◼ ► wind that have some people worried about the way You Tube is going to be running their business [TS]
01:34:39 ◼ ► and we have talked about the stuff like this that we keeping things from several episodes ago that has that has people [TS]
01:34:45 ◼ ► And I do think that is that is the biggest threat to vessel is if You Tube wants to play real hardball [TS]
01:34:55 ◼ ► and instead want to compete like a bunch of jerks they'll try to lock everybody down into these simultaneous release [TS]
01:35:01 ◼ ► contracts saying that if you release videos anywhere it has to be everywhere all at once which would. [TS]
01:35:13 ◼ ► It would make vessels business model untenable because they're no longer offering a special thing. [TS]
01:35:19 ◼ ► Well I still think just like Hulu they would still have videos that are behind a paywall for some limited amount of [TS]
01:35:26 ◼ ► time and then viewable by anyone. So I think they would still have a viable business model. [TS]
01:35:32 ◼ ► If You Tube was forcing creators to choose between the two of them that ultimately comes down to how fast can vessel [TS]
01:35:47 ◼ ► and given You Tube's a dismal ad rates I would be reasonably confident that vessel might be able to achieve that quite [TS]
01:36:00 ◼ ► Line up fast enough before You Tube brings down the hammer again if they want to if they want to play it from my [TS]
01:36:06 ◼ ► perspective in a very unfair move of forcing people to choose a very anti competitive move if I were you thinking of it [TS]
01:36:24 ◼ ► Life is change Brady and the things that things are never not changing there's nothing in status. [TS]
01:36:29 ◼ ► Yeah I don't mind things changing but I wouldn't mind like a bit of a status like bedrock underneath. [TS]
01:36:36 ◼ ► It has felt for the past couple months like there have been particularly shifty sands underneath my feet in the wise [TS]
01:36:44 ◼ ► feeling better now having having moved to having a mailing list which I've encouraged you to do [TS]
01:36:53 ◼ ► Yes So let me ask you Brady does vessel seem attractive to you is that something that you would consider. [TS]
01:37:08 ◼ ► Increasing my work flow and having to like you know I manage you know double of all my accounts again you know [TS]
01:37:15 ◼ ► and you know when you've got six or seven really active projects doubling them doesn't really appeal to me [TS]
01:37:22 ◼ ► but you know it could potentially come to a point where every time I like a video I didn't have to spend three days [TS]
01:37:29 ◼ ► putting on all these different platforms now going to put on my jeans and Ira says and I'm going to put on vest so [TS]
01:37:34 ◼ ► and I'm going to put it on You Tube and I've got to do and now go to Twitter and then Facebook [TS]
01:37:37 ◼ ► and then I'm going to go and put on my blog and then I'm going to go on put on patriot and then I'm going to [TS]
01:37:43 ◼ ► and it just gets to a point where I feel like I'm spending more time on the back and then I am actually creating [TS]
01:37:55 ◼ ► and I want to slam thing on the internet just to be like an afterthought like there it is now you guys enjoy it. [TS]
01:38:25 ◼ ► and it becomes a huge list of things that you need to do. One tiny step at a time. [TS]
01:38:30 ◼ ► And so yes for anybody who's doing this for a living considering an additional platform is a huge deal. [TS]
01:38:37 ◼ ► Like it's a lot of extra steps. Oh what do you what do you caption you know two thousand videos very. [TS]
01:38:46 ◼ ► or the one the one that I get is why people go why don't you have a nicely organized list of citations [TS]
01:38:58 ◼ ► but man is that a lot of work for very very little benefits on every single video of trying to keep track of sort. [TS]
01:39:08 ◼ ► Yes in theory that doesn't sound like it's a lot but it adds up and it adds up. With all of the other things. [TS]
01:39:17 ◼ ► and it was relatively simple is actually a lot simpler than putting something up on You Tube [TS]
01:39:22 ◼ ► but I was aware of like oh God this is an additional ten things on my checklist that is already [TS]
01:39:33 ◼ ► And so I had a bunch of people say oh why don't you also be on vessel as well as a god if I if I have what it is. [TS]
01:39:38 ◼ ► Videos is often of you it's you know it's a huge it's a huge hassle so there needs to be a lot of advantage to an [TS]
01:39:51 ◼ ► I do think that'll does potentially bring that to the table if they can make the money work which is why I think [TS]
01:40:05 ◼ ► Well people go and check out the Minute Physics minute Veritasium on there and tell us what you think. [TS]
01:40:20 ◼ ► and IRA trailblazers I will still say that even if successful I still think it is it is unlikely that I would switch to [TS]
01:40:28 ◼ ► or I would do vessel in addition to You Tube I can imagine some kind of future day where I have to choose between [TS]
01:40:40 ◼ ► My problem with Vishal at first glance is I haven't signed on yet so I have a very sane behind that behind the curtain [TS]
01:40:48 ◼ ► and then when you look at their like landing page they seem very focused on you know a celebrity [TS]
01:40:55 ◼ ► and a big popular stuff and it seems like they want to be. It already feels like they want to be T.V. [TS]
01:41:12 ◼ ► and some newly independent person striking it it sounds like they want things that are already big [TS]
01:41:19 ◼ ► and you know they want to be like they want to be more like Netflix than You Tube I think that I think that is [TS]
01:41:29 ◼ ► I don't I can't you know it's also new this is just happened the past couple days the the publicness of it [TS]
01:41:35 ◼ ► but I don't think just anybody can sign up and create a new channel I'm not sure that's the case. [TS]
01:41:41 ◼ ► Yeah I think so but but they have I mean they got an impressive list of people to go over [TS]
01:41:53 ◼ ► I would be I'd be more than a little wary you always just say that you choose the music platforms as well. [TS]
01:42:05 ◼ ► and that is particularly interesting because You Tube is bringing down the hammer about you have to choose with our [TS]
01:42:16 ◼ ► And so there are there are big music players that have said we are going to choose vessel. [TS]