00:00:00 ◼ ► This is a lot more comfortable because I'm now just in front of my computer and I can actually see you anymore. [TS]
00:00:07 ◼ ► Yeah the pressure of my hands and face is has been removed. You are very distracting man. [TS]
00:00:14 ◼ ► In Perth you said distracting. You can say hands and you said distracting it was it was a high stakes. [TS]
00:00:26 ◼ ► I thought it was easier after the initial unusualness of like we were like really close to each other after like a ten [TS]
00:00:33 ◼ ► fifteen minutes I found it much easier I was able to read your body language and read your facial expressions [TS]
00:00:48 ◼ ► I guess I'm most comfortable talking into the void because yes that is exactly what it feels like I'm really just [TS]
00:00:53 ◼ ► looking at the waveforms as we talk to each other. That's all I had some way for right. [TS]
00:01:00 ◼ ► You had the pleasure of editing the last pod cast How did you find that. I found it quite easy. [TS]
00:01:06 ◼ ► I liked being able to take out more of my annoying idiosyncrasies that I took more of them out than you tend to leave a [TS]
00:01:14 ◼ ► And you always tell me I don't change them because they're hard to snip out they are not hard to snip out they're easy [TS]
00:01:24 ◼ ► Well take out more I reckon you've got your back and not my back when you do the editing. [TS]
00:01:35 ◼ ► and I try my best to remove them so that the poor poor listeners don't have to hear them. [TS]
00:01:43 ◼ ► Usually there's something like five hundred to seven hundred cuts on a on an episode of hello internet. [TS]
00:01:52 ◼ ► I take out a ton of stuff I have to admit I probably would have been even more brutal except I did have to bear in mind [TS]
00:02:02 ◼ ► There were lots of tricks you can do to coverup cats and leave a few jump cuts in but there are a few times [TS]
00:02:07 ◼ ► when I did leave things in I would have cat for video reasons you know apologies to anyone who listened to the last [TS]
00:02:14 ◼ ► episode and that could have been a bit tighter. There may have been other factors at play. [TS]
00:02:19 ◼ ► but that yes that is the reason you did the last one is that you are a much more skilled video editor [TS]
00:02:25 ◼ ► and you are better with those kind of tricks and those kind of cuts than I would ever be. [TS]
00:02:29 ◼ ► Don't give me that flattery you're just flattering Maine so that I would do more editing that's likely nice to say to [TS]
00:02:35 ◼ ► We go into these chores may we go to the shop for my own time you to see how quickly you can do it [TS]
00:02:42 ◼ ► and do all your work you're so good at video Brady you should end up over podcasts. [TS]
00:02:54 ◼ ► That does have a video component I think it does make sense for you to do it where I'm not trying to grease the wheels [TS]
00:02:59 ◼ ► here and I'm going to hand over the job of doing the audio as well. That was not my plan. [TS]
00:03:12 ◼ ► Audrey has had her surgery her Lady surgery she has been fixed as we like to say I just said Lady surgery just then you [TS]
00:03:19 ◼ ► said fixed fixed sounds terrible that's a terrible sounding when you say fixed last time. [TS]
00:03:24 ◼ ► Now I always say Lady surgery you say fixed which I think is just it's a brutal sounding word brutal I think fixed is [TS]
00:03:31 ◼ ► better like at the park I've been using when I'm walking here and explaining why she's on the Late. [TS]
00:03:36 ◼ ► I sort of have said she's just been to the fair and I got on I was anything serious [TS]
00:03:52 ◼ ► when they brought her out from at the back after her surgery and she was like completely out of on drugs. [TS]
00:04:05 ◼ ► or six hours until about the worst parent in the world for making her go through that sad [TS]
00:04:09 ◼ ► when you see the pets coming off anesthesia it's very it's a little bit difficult to deal with unless the whole area. [TS]
00:04:17 ◼ ► Sometimes it'll areas but most of the times it's a little bit O. You poor thing there's nothing I can do for you. [TS]
00:04:39 ◼ ► Oh yeah she's good she's oh good it's all going well we went to the vet for her checkup a couple of days later [TS]
00:04:48 ◼ ► and want to know I was happy that I once I was happy that she was healthy and everything was fine. [TS]
00:04:53 ◼ ► I then started interrogating him about whether he listens to podcasts while doing surgery [TS]
00:05:09 ◼ ► He thinks people do this into music and things like that because it's just such a long boring job. [TS]
00:05:17 ◼ ► I kind of made that up a bit but he meant big things on big animals that take a long time. [TS]
00:05:21 ◼ ► I'm trying to imagine the scenario in which it is worth it to do a hip replacement on a cow because we have things that [TS]
00:05:28 ◼ ► we do with cows. Yeah but what if he's like your favorite cat or it's a prize winning. [TS]
00:05:33 ◼ ► Well that's I'm trying to imagine is it a particularly valuable bull cow that you know his genetics are still quite [TS]
00:05:40 ◼ ► good but his his body is unwilling OK then maybe I can see doing a hip replacement on a bull might make sense [TS]
00:05:48 ◼ ► but a regular cow I don't know about that it's like hip replacement on resources I don't think that's what they do [TS]
00:05:53 ◼ ► when the when the horse needs a hip replacement I think they have other solutions. That's your best thing now. [TS]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Although I do have I do have from the Reddit a new profession that listens to pod cast while doing it. [TS]
00:06:11 ◼ ► Embalming while listening to pod casts and I asked what do they embalm and the answer was people. [TS]
00:06:18 ◼ ► People is what they're involving while they are listening to the helo engine apart. How do you feel about that. [TS]
00:06:23 ◼ ► Not entirely comfortable. Why I don't like dead bodies and I don't know how to start not to think about it. [TS]
00:06:33 ◼ ► Like I'm glad they're listening to the dead body of the listening the embalmers listening out [TS]
00:06:38 ◼ ► and I just saw that bodies I remember one time doing a story around Christmas time for the newspaper where we want to [TS]
00:06:52 ◼ ► and I found out how many people were likely to die over the Christmas period from can driving [TS]
00:06:59 ◼ ► So we organized with the morgue to get six of the trolleys that they put dead people on [TS]
00:07:08 ◼ ► and sort of with a kind if this could be you could be on one of these trolleys if you're an idiot. [TS]
00:07:18 ◼ ► I was sort of a visiting my gaze from every direction because I didn't want to see one and I didn't you didn't. [TS]
00:07:24 ◼ ► I'm trying to think if I've stayed at parties this is a weird thing about modern society is how rare it is to actually [TS]
00:07:37 ◼ ► Oh yes of course I have seen loads of them in the poll because they there's a place where you can go by the river where [TS]
00:07:44 ◼ ► they wash them and then they put them on on the pyres and burn them and the tourists can go [TS]
00:07:56 ◼ ► Once again we're off to a really cheery start here. It's no different. Talking about death pretty quickly. [TS]
00:08:02 ◼ ► I know that I have seen dead bodies in person in a funeral situations but I mean not since I was I was a little kid. [TS]
00:08:16 ◼ ► It wasn't like my parents were driving me around to funerals saying oh let's go let's go toward the dead bodies. [TS]
00:08:21 ◼ ► That's not the scenario I'm just I'm trying to cast my mind back to when have I seen an actual person who was dead [TS]
00:08:30 ◼ ► Which is which is why my my memory is a bit hazy and of course because you can never trust your own childhood memories. [TS]
00:08:36 ◼ ► It is quite possible that the funeral that I'm thinking of was even just a closed casket casket [TS]
00:08:45 ◼ ► But you know you can't trust kids their memories are useless which includes my own childhood memories [TS]
00:08:50 ◼ ► but I just say that I read a while back a book called stiff by Mary Roach one of the things that she goes through in [TS]
00:08:59 ◼ ► that book is talking about how recently it was relatively common in funeral services to just lay out a dead body the [TS]
00:09:14 ◼ ► And that seems so so strange like it's seems very very bizarre. But it was not that long ago. [TS]
00:09:22 ◼ ► I just we have we have kind of sanitized and pushed to the edge of death in modern society in many ways. [TS]
00:09:36 ◼ ► Can you guess which section of of the of the various things that we talked about I have a little bit of follow up on. [TS]
00:09:46 ◼ ► and say it's the voting sex thing the thing being you are correct a little bit of voting follow up that I have which is [TS]
00:10:06 ◼ ► and white voting system for certain kinds of ballots so they want to do a secret ballot. [TS]
00:10:18 ◼ ► and because of the kind of person that I was I was like oh I wonder I wonder exactly how this works so I looked it up [TS]
00:10:25 ◼ ► and I pulled up a forty five page long document about the voting procedures in Romania [TS]
00:10:35 ◼ ► I'm going to read it out really quickly if you are going to give me the executive summary you know couldn't read the [TS]
00:10:39 ◼ ► hopefully a page of The represented line up and they give each representative a white and a black one [TS]
00:10:53 ◼ ► and a black ball placed in the black ballot means an in favour vote whereas a black ball placed in the white ballot [TS]
00:11:07 ◼ ► and putting both of them in then in the black ballot box means a no vote. And I read this. [TS]
00:11:13 ◼ ► It took me forever to figure out what the heck this actually means because I was sitting here thinking Wait how did it [TS]
00:11:19 ◼ ► how do they count this if if you put things in the matching colors it's for if you put it in the not matching colors [TS]
00:11:25 ◼ ► it's against. But then if you put both of them in the black one. No What does this mean. [TS]
00:11:30 ◼ ► I was thinking about this for a while. Yeah but my guess is they're basically just dumping out the black ballot box. [TS]
00:11:37 ◼ ► That one doesn't count and they must only be counting the balls in the white ballot box. [TS]
00:11:42 ◼ ► So that's what it means or if you put both of your marbles in the black one you are abstaining from a vote. [TS]
00:11:49 ◼ ► That's that's what's going on here. What why don't you just throw your post away and put them in another. [TS]
00:11:53 ◼ ► The reason they're doing that is because they're having everybody line up. And so this is the same thing that the vote. [TS]
00:12:02 ◼ ► You can't tell if the person how they are voting because they're just dropping marbles into these boxes. [TS]
00:12:10 ◼ ► They look like an urn that actually I saw a picture of it and they have a place where your hand can be hidden. [TS]
00:12:14 ◼ ► So you put your hand above the white urn but then it becomes head and you put your hand above the black one [TS]
00:12:23 ◼ ► or voted for voted it is just some system that they use in the committees of the parliament [TS]
00:12:27 ◼ ► or is this how the citizenry elect a government. No this is used in there. I don't know I'm sorry. [TS]
00:12:34 ◼ ► Romania I don't know the correct word off the top of my head here but this is used in their legislative branch. OK. [TS]
00:12:40 ◼ ► When they need to hold a vote. But they wanted to be a secret vote so it is not on record. [TS]
00:12:46 ◼ ► And it looks like this is used for some internal things in the legislature this is not used to pass laws is the [TS]
00:12:52 ◼ ► but is used for internal business because I don't know what I think about a legislature having secret ballots so that [TS]
00:13:01 ◼ ► that system with white balls and black ball is still used in the world today at least in Romania. [TS]
00:13:08 ◼ ► So thank you remaining providing me with some delightful voting trivia who would have thought I think of one little [TS]
00:13:18 ◼ ► when we were at the Royal Society you mentioning how sort of the changing of the God of the whole horse parade happened [TS]
00:13:24 ◼ ► just outside the window and right before we started recording in the pomp and ceremony. [TS]
00:13:29 ◼ ► I actually heard a story about someone who had another office right near where we were recording [TS]
00:13:34 ◼ ► and part of their job was doing a lot of sales to the US and having to sort of do deals over the phone [TS]
00:13:39 ◼ ► and getting the US people to buy stuff off him and he had a clever tactic of always phoning the U.S. [TS]
00:13:46 ◼ ► Around the time of the changing of the guard because in the background that hero the drums thumping in the trumpets [TS]
00:13:53 ◼ ► and all the ceremony and stuff and I get what's in the background and they're not just the queen going past [TS]
00:14:00 ◼ ► We're going to get so excited about all the ceremony they get in such a good happy usually insecure with the sales. [TS]
00:14:09 ◼ ► I'm always amused by how English people just they cannot perceive how much Americans just love the whole notion of the [TS]
00:14:21 ◼ ► I don't know I mean part of it is is I think just the distance so that Americans this is not part of their government. [TS]
00:14:30 ◼ ► It allows them to just think of the U.K. As a still kind of magical place and it came with their own. [TS]
00:14:40 ◼ ► There are many people who have beefs against the against the royal family for injustices perceived or real [TS]
00:14:49 ◼ ► and then if you're living in the U.K. You have to deal with the actual royal family. [TS]
00:14:59 ◼ ► when I did my my royal family video a long time ago I had just this wall of feedback from people saying how much my [TS]
00:15:08 ◼ ► statement that Americans visit England in no small part because of the royal family was just ridiculous that nobody [TS]
00:15:20 ◼ ► when I was I was in High Park for the royal wedding a few years ago where everyone in that park was America there were [TS]
00:15:29 ◼ ► no locals there it was just every every single person's voice I heard was an American they all come over to be here for [TS]
00:15:40 ◼ ► We had a street party right down a straight and if one came out and brought cakes on the tables [TS]
00:15:45 ◼ ► and kids played games it was lovely that sounded sounds really nice I had a very community minded straight. [TS]
00:15:51 ◼ ► Actually I am in touch with that sort of negative comments you were talking about because I don't know if you saw the [TS]
00:16:11 ◼ ► and say what was bit of a pull off a kind of get the footage to you that I managed to license the footage of the moment. [TS]
00:16:16 ◼ ► So I've got all the people can watch Prince Charles doing the doing the things in Buckingham Palace. [TS]
00:16:22 ◼ ► But yeah there are a few comments under the video that were not complementary of the royal family. [TS]
00:16:27 ◼ ► From my perspective I find them surprisingly controversial now not that I find them controversial [TS]
00:16:33 ◼ ► but the mention of the royal family more for some English people is surprisingly controversial [TS]
00:16:41 ◼ ► and yet I still to this day get a pretty large amount of feedback from that video that I made years ago you know I was [TS]
00:16:48 ◼ ► like my fourth video ever made just so so offhandedly before I even thought I was going to do this is the real thing [TS]
00:17:01 ◼ ► Well as I always like to say if you have an opinion about the royal family tweet gray stone can either get plenty of it [TS]
00:17:08 ◼ ► think there's another fair with a figure to it yet. Yet one more here in the follow up. [TS]
00:17:14 ◼ ► Speaking of things on Twitter I don't need to hear any more about Kindles I love you every single case a father starts [TS]
00:17:20 ◼ ► with speaking of the thing we just spoke about. Good segue right. Yeah what are you going to say that kinda was. [TS]
00:17:32 ◼ ► but I would think there's nothing left to say about candles except again I have received just a huge volume of tweets [TS]
00:17:39 ◼ ► from people who are are telling me about Kindles improves typography engine for their for their next generation machine [TS]
00:17:48 ◼ ► and every time I get one of these tweets I hate to say that whenever people tweet me about the Kindle stuff it just [TS]
00:17:54 ◼ ► comes back to the same problem. Nobody understands what I am talking about like I'm complaining about a very. [TS]
00:18:01 ◼ ► And then everybody goes oh candles change something related to type hogger feel like we have to look great now I think [TS]
00:18:06 ◼ ► now have they changed a thing related to my specific complaint and the answer to this is not really [TS]
00:18:22 ◼ ► but again even in their screen shots of them showing off their amazing new typographical engine I can still see i go [TS]
00:18:29 ◼ ► yeah you're not doing the left alignment correctly. It's better it's definitely better but you know what. [TS]
00:18:35 ◼ ► I'm not really interested in the more because I am now I have moved on to i Books The ship has sailed. [TS]
00:18:52 ◼ ► But I've moved on with my books now so I can tell you can't be wooed back under any circumstances. [TS]
00:19:04 ◼ ► but it would it would take quite a lot because now I have one fewer device in my life I don't use the Kindle [TS]
00:19:12 ◼ ► and to reintroduce another physical device it would take it would take quite a lot [TS]
00:19:22 ◼ ► I Books is a very good job of rendering typography normally going to take more than a couple of flour. I'm A.J. [TS]
00:19:27 ◼ ► and Apology. I've added hyphenation to my words like yeah that was great you should have had that ten years ago. [TS]
00:19:38 ◼ ► Oh we're going through our entire back catalogue one of the time to try to add left justification under certain [TS]
00:19:43 ◼ ► settings. Now I don't want to hear it. I'm not interested so I can go now to be fair. [TS]
00:19:49 ◼ ► I bow to the terrible job rendering the topography and the Getting Things Done book [TS]
00:19:53 ◼ ► but that was David Allen fault for including lots of dumb quotes but anyway the site you've written. [TS]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Here digital era stuff so this is a little question from the Reddit which I just wanted to address the last time you [TS]
00:20:07 ◼ ► brought up the automation Web site which was how likely it is that your job is going to be automated. [TS]
00:20:13 ◼ ► Yes and we were discussing about high school teachers and how likely they were to be automated and said very low. [TS]
00:20:20 ◼ ► And someone brought up this point which I thought was really good I just want to address it. [TS]
00:20:23 ◼ ► So someone asked on the Reddit you seem to agree in the last episode with the really low chance of automation for high [TS]
00:20:29 ◼ ► school teachers but this seems to go strongly against your digital Aristotle video. [TS]
00:20:39 ◼ ► I made the digital Aristotle video a while back talking about some changes that I saw coming in the world of education. [TS]
00:20:46 ◼ ► I don't think that high school teachers are going away for the reason that I said in the last episode which was that [TS]
00:20:55 ◼ ► you need someone in the room with children I think is going to be a very very long time before parents feel more secure [TS]
00:21:04 ◼ ► with a robot in the room than having a human in the room with their children doesn't have to be a teacher that could [TS]
00:21:20 ◼ ► and it was something that I was a little bit worried about when I was a teacher is I didn't see teachers going away [TS]
00:21:28 ◼ ► but I thought this is a job that is vulnerable to what's called the skilling that you don't need as trained a person to [TS]
00:21:38 ◼ ► do the exact same thing if you can start offloading a lot of the teaching to machine learning or with computers [TS]
00:21:46 ◼ ► And so you can go from a situation where they go We need trained experts in mathematics and science [TS]
00:21:52 ◼ ► and English to be teaching our kids too. Well now if we can offload some of this learning on to the machine. [TS]
00:22:04 ◼ ► So that was what I was thinking is the possible future for teachers is that the job can be D. [TS]
00:22:10 ◼ ► Skilled over time and that you could be reduced to essential like a babysitting slash troubleshooting role. [TS]
00:22:20 ◼ ► So that's why I think that I agree that the high school teachers are relatively immune from automation [TS]
00:22:28 ◼ ► but that's that I can also imagine that the role of that job can greatly change over time [TS]
00:22:35 ◼ ► and become much less of what I was interested in like the babysitting aspect of being a teacher were some of the least [TS]
00:22:42 ◼ ► interesting aspects of that. They may be the aspects that survive the longest in that role. So anyway now. [TS]
00:22:52 ◼ ► and the teachers the teachers they love me I'm invited to speak at education conferences worldwide so they can throw [TS]
00:23:01 ◼ ► and it's let me I mean you're basically saying take is going to become what I think pilots are going to become in [TS]
00:23:05 ◼ ► planes basically just people that sit there to keep other people happy not to actually do a job. [TS]
00:23:11 ◼ ► Yes and you have a meat based redundancy in case of some sort of catastrophic problem. [TS]
00:23:18 ◼ ► Occasionally I get I get these little insights into why you truly will never be elected leader of the world. [TS]
00:23:40 ◼ ► I wouldn't want to do and to think is I think I was an electable before the pod cast [TS]
00:23:50 ◼ ► Now if we've said this stuff in the forecast is no underoath we're not going to hold you to any of that's true that's [TS]
00:23:55 ◼ ► true. If you run for office you cannot tell us a bunch of lies and we won't use the pod cast against you. [TS]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Yeah I'm sure I will I will doesn't have the support of the teachers' union I've ever run. [TS]
00:24:08 ◼ ► and tying in with what we were just talking about then about occupations that have become automated Just today I had a [TS]
00:24:15 ◼ ► little moment where I thought of a wonderful occupation that everyone would love to do [TS]
00:24:22 ◼ ► and yet I think it is practically dead for all intents and purposes has already become automated [TS]
00:24:31 ◼ ► Here's an occupation which I would love but I feel like is almost no longer open to me. [TS]
00:24:36 ◼ ► I'm very curious explore other still explorers although I think the only people who use Explorer as their job [TS]
00:24:48 ◼ ► or media personality Suikoden So it's either actually any real explorers anymore who are exploring stuff that hasn't [TS]
00:24:58 ◼ ► I immediately thinking of that scene in The Truman Show where I think little little Truman little Jim Carrey wants to [TS]
00:25:05 ◼ ► be an explorer and the teacher pulled down the map and says nope no more explorers. We've discovered it all the time. [TS]
00:25:13 ◼ ► I mean I know people will get to you and me and say people you know people who are studying D.N.A. [TS]
00:25:18 ◼ ► or Explore how are you from right here in the metaphor that is that is stretching the metaphor [TS]
00:25:24 ◼ ► and there are other people who would say with the people in Mission Control at NASA are explorers [TS]
00:25:44 ◼ ► and a flag right one one hand on the steering wheel the other hand holding the flag looking for something that no one [TS]
00:26:05 ◼ ► Well I think you can look pretty good with your spaceship and your space sword and your space flag. [TS]
00:26:16 ◼ ► When people say Explorer that is that is what I am thinking so I think that you can have in theory space explorers [TS]
00:26:26 ◼ ► We certainly don't know we just send them up into a tin can to fly around in circles a thousand times a day. [TS]
00:26:31 ◼ ► Yes says that many times that happen any time now. It's nowhere near that many times I just made it up. [TS]
00:26:37 ◼ ► OK it's not a plausible I don't get Mayor Don't get me wrong thing an astronaut still some [TS]
00:26:45 ◼ ► Being an astronaut is awesome but that yes I will I will back you one hundred percent. [TS]
00:26:55 ◼ ► when they say people are pushing the boundaries of human knowledge this is a good thing. [TS]
00:27:15 ◼ ► Oh by the way this is the ad spot for Audible dot com I've just listened to a book called So you have been publicly [TS]
00:27:40 ◼ ► It's a non-fiction book and it is about how we end up shaming people for their behavior on the Internet. [TS]
00:27:49 ◼ ► and found people who were at the center of various public controversies for example Justin Sacco who was the woman who [TS]
00:28:00 ◼ ► Color racist jokes on Twitter and then became the epicenter of just world of hate on Twitter and Ronson goes [TS]
00:28:11 ◼ ► and he talks to a lot of different people who were in similar situations. It's a great book. It really really is. [TS]
00:28:19 ◼ ► In particular there is a section with Mike Daisy who was at the center of the big controversy where he had more [TS]
00:28:27 ◼ ► or less fabricated all of the interesting and salacious details about his trip to Apple factories in China. [TS]
00:28:40 ◼ ► and it is available for you to listen to on Audible dot com go to audible dot com slash hello internet. [TS]
00:28:49 ◼ ► This way they know that you came from this recommendation and you can sign up for audible [TS]
00:29:02 ◼ ► and once you're there why not check out the hundred fifty thousand other audio books they have for you to listen to [TS]
00:29:10 ◼ ► spoken material is a big part of my life I always like to have a good audio book to listen to while I am doing errands [TS]
00:29:21 ◼ ► I would actually go so far as to say this is an important book for everyone who spends time on the internet to read. [TS]
00:29:36 ◼ ► Speaking of explorers with flags How did you find the follow up with asked people to submit. [TS]
00:29:43 ◼ ► Oh they have the internet flags into one place and I haven't actually I haven't checked it for awhile. [TS]
00:29:49 ◼ ► You haven't looked you haven't listened I haven't looked for that I looked I looked in the early days [TS]
00:29:56 ◼ ► Where's that at what are we going to do next because there are some there are some brilliant design. [TS]
00:30:00 ◼ ► It's there for all the right reasons and all the wrong reasons. I had the thread up on my screen right now. [TS]
00:30:05 ◼ ► The current state is that there are a hundred and thirty two flag designs that were submitted to the sub Reddit [TS]
00:30:22 ◼ ► and that I think is my favorite ugly one is the U.S. State flag version of Hello Internet. [TS]
00:30:33 ◼ ► and yellow color that I've complained about before which should look awful they wrote. [TS]
00:30:37 ◼ ► Hello Internet across the top twenty fourteen on the bottom and they put a circle with the H. [TS]
00:30:50 ◼ ► and below is the seal of the hello internet that really makes it in my mind somehow it's just that it's wanted to make [TS]
00:31:07 ◼ ► There are many hilarious ugly hello internet flags on there but I would say that that one is is my personal favorite. [TS]
00:31:14 ◼ ► What about the good ones because it was some people took it seriously let's not just sort of sweep them under the [TS]
00:31:21 ◼ ► I have no intention to sweep them under the carpet I have already loaded up on my browser a bunch of the flags that I [TS]
00:31:26 ◼ ► liked. Would you like to see some of the ones I liked. We share them with me. Know him before you do. [TS]
00:31:31 ◼ ► Yeah I'm going to put something else out there before I even say these are what I want this in your head because I [TS]
00:31:37 ◼ ► haven't told you this before but I actually have some contacts in the flag manufacturing industry. [TS]
00:31:44 ◼ ► and I have actually had a flag manufactured before for something I did with you what did you have a flag manufactured [TS]
00:31:53 ◼ ► But but because it broke a few rules but when I did a series of films about the exact center of everywhere by. [TS]
00:32:05 ◼ ► and had a photograph of the flag at all these locations so I had to have this B.B.C. [TS]
00:32:11 ◼ ► and I've still got it somewhere in a trunk somewhere so I was thinking we should maybe have the best flag manufactured [TS]
00:32:19 ◼ ► so the hello internet flag exists. What do you say what he said about that. That sounds pretty cool. [TS]
00:32:31 ◼ ► Well obviously it's not going to get your place is it hadn't I wouldn't I would do something with it we could maybe we [TS]
00:32:41 ◼ ► when we do the next kind of you know live show favourite is something where we have like a few seconds to play that [TS]
00:32:48 ◼ ► really short hello into anthem and we'll fly the flag you want to fly the hello internet flag. [TS]
00:32:53 ◼ ► Yeah you could have like a pledge of allegiance to the show right now fledge allegiance pledge of allegiance is so [TS]
00:33:05 ◼ ► Really creepy experience is that it seems normal for a while until suddenly in high school you're old enough to do a [TS]
00:33:21 ◼ ► I did quite like the idea of flying the flag and it could be like a Buckingham Palace like [TS]
00:33:30 ◼ ► and then if the flags are not flying it means we've left the building. Walking him. [TS]
00:33:35 ◼ ► I'm not I'm not feelin the love yet so I'm just trying to think where we could actually fly it we need to now we need [TS]
00:33:39 ◼ ► to get some sort of hello internet corporate headquarters and we can fly the flag over there and it won't lie [TS]
00:33:46 ◼ ► when we're not there. Maybe pursues they will fly over the enclosure with the G.P. Grey the penguin in it. [TS]
00:33:56 ◼ ► There's no point talking about this until we have a flag so I show you some good designs. [TS]
00:34:00 ◼ ► I'm going to send you just a couple that I pulled out that I like how you're going to send them to me. [TS]
00:34:16 ◼ ► but it has four light bulbs arranged in the center which was this is far as I could tell was a unique design decision [TS]
00:34:25 ◼ ► and not it was an interesting design decision to have the four light bulbs arranged in the center. [TS]
00:34:32 ◼ ► but I thought that was a good thing to pick up on a good I might be a little bit faster than the detailing on the bulbs [TS]
00:34:38 ◼ ► might be a little bit fussy for my liking but I do like the idea and I share in the white folks [TS]
00:34:52 ◼ ► but I figure with light bulbs you kind of have to make them a little bit fussy otherwise it's not really clear [TS]
00:34:58 ◼ ► immediately what it is. I like I hadn't seen that one before and I look at that one. Now the next one. [TS]
00:35:07 ◼ ► Another great design great color design. They stick is obvious they will be owned by people who don't have a look at. [TS]
00:35:15 ◼ ► Yes I'll put these in the shop that that's not that I will try I will try to link them to the Reddit comment so that [TS]
00:35:21 ◼ ► the creators can get credit for it as well. This next one I thought was very nice. [TS]
00:35:27 ◼ ► It is again light gray background in the center is a darker gray circle with a white microphone in the middle for the [TS]
00:35:36 ◼ ► Yes but the thing that I really like about it is that out of the circle are coming to little robotic arms [TS]
00:35:50 ◼ ► and crossbones type thing that they crossed like two swords of something you have to basically makes an X through the [TS]
00:35:55 ◼ ► circle. The caveman club and the two robot arms. And then the pod casting thing in the center. I quite like that. [TS]
00:36:05 ◼ ► That kind of high tech and club thing was a bit of a theme I noticed through a few of them but that [TS]
00:36:11 ◼ ► That's why I picked it out and number of people were using the caveman club and robot arms or some variation thereof [TS]
00:36:23 ◼ ► Yeah I'll show you another one which I don't think would be great as an actual printed flag [TS]
00:36:27 ◼ ► but that I just really enjoyed by the way I'm not talking about a printed flag I want to get one like stitched in [TS]
00:36:36 ◼ ► I really like I really like it as well but the reason I said that we couldn't get it printed is it is super Soviet. [TS]
00:36:48 ◼ ► and keep the design that you describe I think there's a grey and white version of this one [TS]
00:36:52 ◼ ► but But what this is is the one that I'm looking at right now has the very classic red background with the gold color [TS]
00:37:06 ◼ ► and sickle e because they have taken the rings of my gear icon rotated a little bit [TS]
00:37:17 ◼ ► Brady and I really like it I just I do think that it is it is very Soviet looking but this is quite striking [TS]
00:37:32 ◼ ► So many of the flags were great which is obviously the because of our our logo for the park at the that's the obvious [TS]
00:37:39 ◼ ► color to go with but I did like a few of them that were going with different color choices. I'll see if I can find. [TS]
00:37:49 ◼ ► and white virtualize on I feel like I want to look the the Hard as nails nail for you was also a very common choice [TS]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Like the fact they angled the logo somehow makes it look much better than I think some of the ones that were straight [TS]
00:38:08 ◼ ► OK there's one more that I don't know if you'll think about this but I actually quite like this. [TS]
00:38:13 ◼ ► Let me send this over from the tone of your voice. When that's ripping the piss out of me. No no it isn't OK. [TS]
00:38:22 ◼ ► Take a look now so that when I like that. OK I see you really like this person has taken of course the Maryland flag. [TS]
00:38:36 ◼ ► Now there were very many there were very many jokey versions of hello internet with the Maryland flag [TS]
00:38:46 ◼ ► and there are there are four quadrants of Maryland's flag Marilyn's hideous wraps around [TS]
00:38:52 ◼ ► and so hideous it becomes an awesome flag which I am now in my mind always think of this as the Maryland point. [TS]
00:39:03 ◼ ► Oh it's it's at the Maryland point you can go too far and make it too ugly and you can pass the Maryland point [TS]
00:39:15 ◼ ► and they have made two of the quadrants which were which were the the squarish quadrants [TS]
00:39:20 ◼ ► and they have made them black and dark grey and then they have taken the two fancy crests like quadrants [TS]
00:39:28 ◼ ► and they have made them the number of file brown colours and I think it looks really good together. [TS]
00:39:33 ◼ ► There now is I don't know if this person meant this is a joke but I had actually think this came out really well [TS]
00:39:40 ◼ ► and I quite like this design. I quite like I did that's that was good that did tickle my funny bone. [TS]
00:39:48 ◼ ► So I will have to put that in the show tonight some people can have a look at them [TS]
00:39:52 ◼ ► and I will have to put some more thought into actually getting one made and I don't have any data yet [TS]
00:40:00 ◼ ► It was called contest mode for a while so nobody could see what order the flags were actually getting voted up [TS]
00:40:05 ◼ ► or down and if you go to the thread now which I'll put in the show you can see the order that people have voted up [TS]
00:40:12 ◼ ► and I would say that that thread is still open for submissions so we will we will take a look [TS]
00:40:18 ◼ ► and maybe get one of these actually printed at some point so they continue to put some thought into. [TS]
00:40:23 ◼ ► I'll have to I'll have to I'll have to do a bit of behind the scenes work on great ladies [TS]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and gentlemen because he hasn't he hasn't yet seen the potential of this but I'll make sure he doesn't. [TS]
00:40:35 ◼ ► Oh there's one last one I want to show you really quickly I mean I got this out we might have counted. [TS]
00:41:01 ◼ ► and a red bottom two sort of big horizontal bows and in the middle is like a golden logo. [TS]
00:41:08 ◼ ► But the goal is the outline of a tree from the old tree chasing bubbles video patching [TS]
00:41:18 ◼ ► Videos they want so many times I've seen some now seventy times now that yeah that's going to get there we go. [TS]
00:41:27 ◼ ► A bubble flag. I love that it's Adrea so cute and they went with a very harsh color choices I think it's pretty good. [TS]
00:41:41 ◼ ► OK getting back to another of essay topics which is toothbrushes. Toothbrushes Yeah. [TS]
00:41:55 ◼ ► I call that the normal toothbrushes Now I call them the stick with leaves tooth brush. [TS]
00:42:04 ◼ ► and they really moved to I've moved away from the electronic tell me something while I'm in a word violence. [TS]
00:42:15 ◼ ► I like sometimes sometimes you just want to smash your mouth and let you feel like your math takes NAIDOC brushing [TS]
00:42:24 ◼ ► and you want to really get in there and and one soul will see intense still force if you press too hard and so small [TS]
00:42:34 ◼ ► I'm going to just blast my teeth really hard and be really angry and do a really good job and feel really lovely [TS]
00:42:45 ◼ ► The charging thing is also a massive pain in the back so it's not it's our friend myself more often than not brushing [TS]
00:42:55 ◼ ► and just using it like a normal toothbrush anyway so I sort of thought This is ridiculous [TS]
00:43:14 ◼ ► If you get an electric toothbrush it definitely turns your toothbrushing into a much more passive activity that at [TS]
00:43:23 ◼ ► least with mine I still like mine I'm still using mine I can't imagine going back. But it but it definitely I am now. [TS]
00:43:32 ◼ ► I am now moving like a little robot around inside my mouth which is doing the cleaning [TS]
00:43:37 ◼ ► and it just requires me to relocate it from two to two as opposed to all I feel like I am cleaning my teeth. [TS]
00:43:50 ◼ ► and I can see that a person of a certain type would find it a much more satisfying experience to manual to manually [TS]
00:44:02 ◼ ► and I don't want to send in you know we probe send in the sand in the sand in the Explorer probe is going to get in [TS]
00:44:16 ◼ ► but I will just say my limited experience is now with manual toothbrushing are that the drone toothbrush. [TS]
00:44:25 ◼ ► Obviously Does a way better job it feels like no matter how much I try to brush my teeth manually it is just not as [TS]
00:44:38 ◼ ► and your I didn't think I was going to change your mind I just thought you wanted you'd want to know if you can T. [TS]
00:44:45 ◼ ► I definitely want to know I find this I find it's a very interesting development in the world. [TS]
00:44:51 ◼ ► Well you know I haven't ruled out going back you know you know I know it sounds like you weren't using a great electric [TS]
00:45:05 ◼ ► but maybe Christmas maybe Santa might bring me something or did your tooth brush let you know [TS]
00:45:13 ◼ ► Yeah it has this it has this mode where if it needs charging when you press it on it doesn't work. [TS]
00:45:19 ◼ ► OK that's that's terrible I need to warn you in advance that's my island letter I'm sure it probably does I just don't [TS]
00:45:24 ◼ ► know what's going on. You don't pay any attention to it as a critical feature of the toothbrush recharging. [TS]
00:45:30 ◼ ► But anyway can we talk about another favorite topic of has when it comes to sort of technology and things. Yes watches. [TS]
00:45:40 ◼ ► Now it's not my intention to talk about our porches because I know people get a bit sick of us talking about them [TS]
00:45:50 ◼ ► but I think this is the second time you're bringing up the topic of Apple Watch as people usually yell at me for [TS]
00:45:55 ◼ ► talking about Apple too much I just want to point out that you are bringing it up I am not bringing this up. [TS]
00:46:00 ◼ ► It's really into watchers artists are fascinated by watches and watches or cattle objects and I'm really into them [TS]
00:46:06 ◼ ► and I'm getting more and more into them and the apple watches you know on the same now and I'm on my mind. [TS]
00:46:23 ◼ ► But I was at dinner the other night and there was a couple sitting opposite me wearing a porches and I [TS]
00:46:28 ◼ ► and I had a moment I had an epiphany and that was I'm sure these things are going to be huge. [TS]
00:46:43 ◼ ► and they had their identical squared faces they cold dead blank faces staring at me from in with their B.D. [TS]
00:46:59 ◼ ► and I thought I don't I don't want to be in the know don't want to be about you but quite often with cool technology [TS]
00:47:12 ◼ ► and think if you know if I haven't got it I think that's called I'd like to have one of those [TS]
00:47:15 ◼ ► or look someone with a mac book and think that's cool and I think I'd like one of them [TS]
00:47:22 ◼ ► I look at these watches and I think I'm glad I'm not them. I'm glad I'm not wearing one of those on my wrist. [TS]
00:47:29 ◼ ► You look at this silly and I don't I actually don't think that when I'm with you. So go figure. [TS]
00:47:37 ◼ ► Mike I don't look at it on your wrist and think great but I look at a lot of other people [TS]
00:47:42 ◼ ► and I don't think that I did it I think a big part of it is the fact they're always off [TS]
00:47:47 ◼ ► and a big part of it is that they're they're part of you there on your wrist you know you can have you can have a dead [TS]
00:47:52 ◼ ► blank screen on your phone because it's sitting in your pocket and you know you pull it out and it's [TS]
00:48:00 ◼ ► Oh and it's just it just sends the wrong message having a blank screen on your wrist and. [TS]
00:48:09 ◼ ► I know you could have different bands but they still look all the same and it's like it's like a futuristic movies [TS]
00:48:15 ◼ ► when everyone's wearing a silver spacesuit with and I think wouldn't be funny if we all dressed the same. [TS]
00:48:34 ◼ ► and for the first time I'm thinking you know what I wouldn't be surprised if they don't take off. [TS]
00:48:42 ◼ ► I have yet to see one in the wild not on a person that I already personally know I have been waiting for the moment [TS]
00:48:52 ◼ ► when I see someone who is not a friend who is wearing an apple watch and I have not yet had that moment. [TS]
00:49:01 ◼ ► Anyway now I want to talk more about what you say as opposed to the dead eyes of Apple watchers here the code dead face [TS]
00:49:15 ◼ ► It is not a state secret that I'm a little bit fond of the a make a Speedmaster professional now [TS]
00:49:20 ◼ ► and you know five if I've ever heard you talk about this before I have let it slip once or twice on the podcast [TS]
00:49:30 ◼ ► and have been wearing it every day since I had wanted one of these for more years than I can remember it was it was a [TS]
00:49:41 ◼ ► It was love and I finally consummated that love and and got the what you my dreams but there's a [TS]
00:50:13 ◼ ► Now just recently something caught my eye another worksheet and I almost thought in fact [TS]
00:50:27 ◼ ► That's what this was and then I thought What am I doing what am I doing. Don't do it. [TS]
00:50:33 ◼ ► So I decided I wasn't going to get this other watch but it was my birthday this week. Happy birthday. [TS]
00:50:41 ◼ ► Thank you and my wife surprised me and got me this other work home. I didn't realize that the Mrs got you this watch. [TS]
00:51:03 ◼ ► It is called a slow watch and is very interesting. It's actually to begin a key for me but I just I like the idea. [TS]
00:51:13 ◼ ► I really like how it looks and I just really want to that. So tell the listener What's different about this watch. [TS]
00:51:29 ◼ ► It has just one hand and it is numbered from zero. Well from zero to twenty four was Iran to twenty three. [TS]
00:51:37 ◼ ► You go zero one two three twenty three and then zero yourself becomes twenty four again. [TS]
00:51:51 ◼ ► and there are little graduated markings in between each hour because there are so many markings. [TS]
00:52:13 ◼ ► and I used to be right to within a few minutes just to make this very clear for the listener. [TS]
00:52:18 ◼ ► This watch though it is an analog watch. It does not have the hand in the same position. [TS]
00:52:23 ◼ ► So if I have this right on a normal watch where you would have the six on the bottom. [TS]
00:52:29 ◼ ► This watch actually has a twelve as I write now it has the zero at the bottom actually [TS]
00:52:39 ◼ ► and in some ways that actually becomes quite natural because if you think of the Sun At midday the hand is pointing to [TS]
00:52:45 ◼ ► the top when the sun is highest in the sky right and the hand is pointing to the bottom [TS]
00:52:52 ◼ ► And if you're going to if you're going to change things you might as well change everything [TS]
00:53:06 ◼ ► and actually has all the mechanics in it to have four different things going on three different hands on the date [TS]
00:53:12 ◼ ► but all of that is actually under the hood. But they've modified it so it's just this one slow moving hand. [TS]
00:53:29 ◼ ► and the face is stunningly simple they don't even put the logo of the watch on they very deliberately that they what [TS]
00:53:37 ◼ ► The front almost looks a bit like an aircraft instrument in a way incredibly simple [TS]
00:53:44 ◼ ► when you know it to me it makes me think of a like a pressure gauge like on a steam vent. That's a pretty good co. [TS]
00:53:53 ◼ ► That's a pretty good call this hexagonal design with a single hand in the middle and and they are now real. [TS]
00:54:01 ◼ ► When I see it it is pointing toward the top because the time is backwards in the way that I was thinking it was that's [TS]
00:54:08 ◼ ► That's the way I think it looks great by the way just to be clear I have to say when I really want to [TS]
00:54:16 ◼ ► And since getting it I have thought on multiple occasions although I can say things you wouldn't like about it. [TS]
00:54:25 ◼ ► Like it just seems the design of it just seems very you know it's just so minimalist and simple [TS]
00:54:35 ◼ ► But also I know that you kind of like these fuzzy clocks or whatever and the sort of not having the exact time [TS]
00:54:41 ◼ ► and this sort of plays to that beautifully that's kind of the ethos of the of the company is you know the slow change [TS]
00:54:46 ◼ ► the way you look at time. So I thought you'd really like it. Obviously no more than that but what. Well ever. [TS]
00:54:54 ◼ ► Ever since you mentioned that you got this watch and I've seen it on face time and you sent me a couple of pictures. [TS]
00:55:12 ◼ ► I would be willing to try to have a single dial that goes around the watch once every twenty four hours. [TS]
00:55:19 ◼ ► And your comment about it being reversed starting at the bottom and going to the top that makes perfect sense. [TS]
00:55:29 ◼ ► And yes because I don't live in a world where I need to be really looking at other clocks [TS]
00:55:33 ◼ ► and I like the imprecise time better than the precise time. This I can see this being compelling. [TS]
00:55:43 ◼ ► But if Apple did allow custom watch faces this is I feel like this is what we were talking about last time the [TS]
00:55:49 ◼ ► different ways you can possibly display the time and this is the first one that I feel is compelling. [TS]
00:55:56 ◼ ► Oh I could see really getting used to and really liking. On that and maybe using that as my main watch in the future. [TS]
00:56:06 ◼ ► Obviously I can't do it now though I have to say another appeal of the watch that wouldn't appear would be massively Is [TS]
00:56:16 ◼ ► and it just does nothing else like this is not only is is not going to do my email and my podcast [TS]
00:56:21 ◼ ► and think you know this where you can tell me the date and this when you can tell me the seconds. [TS]
00:56:31 ◼ ► and it puts be a bit of a quandary now because I have two watches that I'm reading here is the question. [TS]
00:56:45 ◼ ► I'm just sort of it's just a new fancy at the moment but I haven't had it that long to be honest [TS]
00:56:50 ◼ ► when you had it for a few days. So at the moment I'm just wearing the new one also I want to get. [TS]
00:57:02 ◼ ► but once it's broken in I feel like a bit of a quandary and I haven't exactly figured out how I'm going to play it. [TS]
00:57:07 ◼ ► How are you going to keep both watches happy and then you and I and I'm sorry but I want to know is [TS]
00:57:13 ◼ ► when you do switch back to your first love you make loot master won't it break your brain to look at the watch hands in [TS]
00:57:24 ◼ ► a different position this is what I would wonder is if you've gotten used to looking at your twenty four hour watch. [TS]
00:57:34 ◼ ► I'm always very curious to hear your experience of going back to a traditional analog face after having you this one. [TS]
00:57:48 ◼ ► and now I don't think I'm going to forget how to tell time with a traditional clock face so I don't mean that you're [TS]
00:58:00 ◼ ► I can't tell what time it is anymore but I was just wondering if you would notice a delay or a hesitation [TS]
00:58:06 ◼ ► or some some moment of having to think about it as opposed to just doing the quick glance this is the time [TS]
00:58:15 ◼ ► when it happens we do take note said differently is that cognitive barrier with the slow watch. [TS]
00:58:28 ◼ ► So you know I have I think I can put up with it for the time being for the sake of I love the I love the little piece [TS]
00:58:37 ◼ ► Now this brings me on to my next point and I don't know if you can help me with this [TS]
00:58:46 ◼ ► and brand ambassadors OK because I think like for Pixar like people who are like movie stars and sports stars [TS]
00:58:56 ◼ ► and all these people who you know do these big do this I don't think there's anything cooler than what you do if you [TS]
00:59:11 ◼ ► And especially if it's like you know a Rolex or a meager tag you know the big ones. [TS]
00:59:23 ◼ ► but I don't think it's going to happen because I think George Clooney is locked in on a long term contract [TS]
00:59:30 ◼ ► and they probably don't want to fuss of ditching him from A and it wouldn't cause a lot of bad publicity [TS]
00:59:35 ◼ ► and I understand that and George Clooney seems a nice guy very handsome and I'm happy for him to have to do. [TS]
00:59:49 ◼ ► when they're considering maybe adding me to the stable because we look we have a very similar look. [TS]
00:59:54 ◼ ► Rice and they were definitely when they were going through the paperwork they probably had some files you know. [TS]
01:00:05 ◼ ► when they signed Clooney on Originally I also hadn't gone public with my passion for the brand. [TS]
01:00:11 ◼ ► I think I think if I could have the time again maybe they would reconsider. But anyway what's done is done. [TS]
01:00:18 ◼ ► But I can't say I can't see that happening for me but I am thinking I could be the man for the slow watchers. [TS]
01:00:30 ◼ ► I think I could become a brand ambassador for them if they if they have the vision [TS]
01:00:43 ◼ ► and I think I could make a really compelling case if you give me a few minutes it feels like this is what's going to [TS]
01:00:49 ◼ ► happen like I have no control over the you you're going to use the bog at the platform to pitch your brand ambassador [TS]
01:00:59 ◼ ► Brady You have the stage let me read you three why I think this is a no brainer for them. [TS]
01:01:06 ◼ ► First of all I like the product and I wear the product and I'm very passionate about it. That's a great start. [TS]
01:01:13 ◼ ► That is the design and I have as luck would have it have somehow reasons I cannot fully fathom. [TS]
01:01:22 ◼ ► I have an audience of people my have my video channels actually just this week passed three hundred million views. [TS]
01:01:32 ◼ ► So just just this week plus plus we have dozens of people listening to this point cast. So so there you go. [TS]
01:01:40 ◼ ► and I think the sort of people who pay attention to to me sort of people who would like us watch some of them you know. [TS]
01:01:54 ◼ ► Now I also happen to as we just mentioned co-host a podcast with yourself actually. Oh. [TS]
01:02:01 ◼ ► Yes you are that over to you would you wouldn't go in the way of speaking myself at the moment. Oh hello. [TS]
01:02:12 ◼ ► It does in those last part because of you. Well I think you've got your part to play. [TS]
01:02:22 ◼ ► I also happen to produce a You Tube channel which is completely preoccupied with numbers [TS]
01:02:32 ◼ ► And we even do occasional videos about watches I have made watch videos in the past [TS]
01:02:36 ◼ ► and there are a couple of others in production. I happen to have two other channels. [TS]
01:02:42 ◼ ► One of them is a chemistry channel that spends a lot of time making slow motion video as you say slow motion. [TS]
01:02:51 ◼ ► Another one is a physics channel which makes loads of videos about time. Are you saying are you saying this great. [TS]
01:02:57 ◼ ► I I am seeing this I'm deaf. Hang on hang on. I'm about to close the deal here. OK here it is. [TS]
01:03:04 ◼ ► I have another channel in which the whole state of the channel is filming my hands and wrists. [TS]
01:03:14 ◼ ► Objectivity the start of objectivity is my hands and wrist. This is like prime real estate. [TS]
01:03:22 ◼ ► This is this is product placement waiting to happen. This is I'm serving this up on a platter here. [TS]
01:03:36 ◼ ► OK how does this how does this fall back into the main the main course load. They're all about slow. [TS]
01:03:46 ◼ ► OK this is my sign on the dotted line I mean you're reading my name Brady literally means slow. Well I think you do. [TS]
01:04:00 ◼ ► At the job do you think that's Brady but it was way longer and way more severe here and they go for. [TS]
01:04:12 ◼ ► I feel like you are you are really no joke pitching this company of being their brand ambassador. [TS]
01:04:26 ◼ ► or send the name was put in the idea in their head I'm just sayin I'm just sayin. I'm just saying it's an option. [TS]
01:04:51 ◼ ► Well I said I said to my wife do you think do you think do you think sly would have the vision to make me one of their [TS]
01:04:57 ◼ ► brand ambassadors. And she said maybe if you moisturize more and do you had better. That's harsh harsh man. [TS]
01:05:07 ◼ ► She has a point though. I don't I don't think yeah I think you're failing. I think it's a pipe dream isn't it. [TS]
01:05:17 ◼ ► I feel sorry for you either because I mean you could only be a watch brand ambassador for Apple [TS]
01:05:25 ◼ ► and I don't know who would be in front of me on that you know I think I don't even need to pitch it because I've got [TS]
01:05:31 ◼ ► the brand ambassador ship for Apple just locked down just so that got you for free basically. [TS]
01:05:43 ◼ ► when we're done with this I think we need to have a little conversation of if you actually do become the brand [TS]
01:05:47 ◼ ► ambassador for slow. What percentage of that needs to be funded back into the hello Internet Corporation. [TS]
01:05:54 ◼ ► Because this is like you are really pushing for this. Yeah I think that's a fair point I think. [TS]
01:06:00 ◼ ► I think they would have to be talks. I think they would have to be took a tell you if the deal gets done. [TS]
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01:07:20 ◼ ► My first lesson. Well the podcast hasn't gone live yet we're just record. That's how they work. Astray. [TS]
01:07:27 ◼ ► I have to edit I have to edit down the forty five minutes you talk about how you're going to be the grand a bastard [TS]
01:07:33 ◼ ► or I have to edit those forty five minutes down to hopefully something under ten minutes. [TS]
01:07:40 ◼ ► Are you going to include the song out if if it works only include it if it's embarrassing I'll probably just cut it out [TS]
01:07:49 ◼ ► Now you've written something here in the sets got me a little bit intrigued. Race for space album. [TS]
01:08:02 ◼ ► I just made an offhand comment yes that's right you made an offhand remark about some album and [TS]
01:08:08 ◼ ► when I was trying to fill in the show notes asked you what the heck this thing was [TS]
01:08:16 ◼ ► and then the group that does it where they called their code public service broadcasting there are sort of a British [TS]
01:08:25 ◼ ► So this is a music album that I was asking you about and that you were raving about [TS]
01:08:37 ◼ ► And if you were very insistent that I listen to it putting headphones on listening to it all the way through I had very [TS]
01:08:45 ◼ ► special requirements I didn't want you to to do it wrong. I DID IT JUST LIKE YOU WANT TO ME TOO. I put on headphones. [TS]
01:08:54 ◼ ► and you remember in our getting things done section you made a remark that you felt uncomfortable reading the book [TS]
01:09:04 ◼ ► because you were speculating on how much joy and pleasure I would get out of that book which was wrong by the way. [TS]
01:09:14 ◼ ► I honestly felt uncomfortable listening to this race for space album because I thought the exact same thing. [TS]
01:09:22 ◼ ► There is no more perfect musical form of audio pornography for Brady than his race for space album. [TS]
01:09:33 ◼ ► So would you care to describe for our listeners what this album is all right what what this band has basically done is [TS]
01:09:46 ◼ ► and I think they've actually done it in cooperation with the British film exchange things like that so they've got [TS]
01:09:52 ◼ ► access to loads and loads of archive from both the Russian space program. The NASA Apollo space program. [TS]
01:10:04 ◼ ► and lots of news broadcasts as well lots of sort of old school journalism from the fifty's and sixty's [TS]
01:10:16 ◼ ► and they've sprinkled it amongst a bunch of songs that are basically inspired by the space race this famous race [TS]
01:10:24 ◼ ► between the Russians and the Americans in the in the early days of space exploration [TS]
01:10:32 ◼ ► and the thing I love about this album is it's sort of you don't see this much anymore without them so it sort of is [TS]
01:10:42 ◼ ► There's only nine songs but it sort of goes in order and let you start a fairly with the Sputnik and Aaron [TS]
01:10:50 ◼ ► and then the problems on Apollo one with fire in the cockpit and all the early ups and downs [TS]
01:10:55 ◼ ► and it sort of works its way towards the eventual Apollo eleven landing some number eight which is called Go with a [TS]
01:11:03 ◼ ► real highlight of the album is sort of the the showcase I think and then a sort of a finale song [TS]
01:11:10 ◼ ► It's a real kind of emotional journey and of course Gray is right because I'm such a space [TS]
01:11:21 ◼ ► and some people might not because I'm so intimately aware of what's going on and where everything is [TS]
01:11:30 ◼ ► She completely loves it and I'm going to show you she is not a space enthusiasts but she is in music [TS]
01:11:35 ◼ ► and she she just really likes the music so I think the fact it's peppered with all this audience that's that's that's [TS]
01:11:44 ◼ ► But I think on its own merit it is an excellent excellent album and I could talk a lot more about it [TS]
01:11:52 ◼ ► and see these guys perform some of the songs in a week's time because they're playing aggressive very [TS]
01:12:00 ◼ ► I'm going to call it the question the music festival and I think to catch these guys. What did you think of it. [TS]
01:12:07 ◼ ► OK so I I was listening to this. I was listening to this when I was animating the last video. [TS]
01:12:16 ◼ ► The only break in my roast anyway. Well listen I have never in my life just sat down to listen to music. [TS]
01:12:28 ◼ ► Yeah I would if you asked me to just sit down and have nothing else to do except listen to a bunch of songs. [TS]
01:12:34 ◼ ► I guess in a darkened room with candles or something. This is not going to happen. [TS]
01:12:46 ◼ ► and was genuinely uncomfortable the entire time thinking about how much you like this. [TS]
01:12:53 ◼ ► I felt really weird listening to like Don't know about this but because I respected you. [TS]
01:13:05 ◼ ► or four times because it's it is relatively short it's not that long now and I was choice [TS]
01:13:12 ◼ ► and after I listened to it through the first time I thought OK I'm going to listen to it again just because I've gotten [TS]
01:13:24 ◼ ► and then while we're just while I was working I left it it's on Spotify and so I just said you know repeat album [TS]
01:13:38 ◼ ► and I can I can also recommend that people should listen to it it is worth listening to. [TS]
01:13:43 ◼ ► I wouldn't probably listen to it again but I am very glad that I have listened to it [TS]
01:13:48 ◼ ► and then I listen to it a couple times because you do get more out of it when you know what's coming up [TS]
01:13:54 ◼ ► and you can listen to the voices a little bit more and yes I didn't quite realize the first time through [TS]
01:14:00 ◼ ► On the third listen through like oh this is of course this is going in order there's a little story that's going along [TS]
01:14:06 ◼ ► with this so I put it in the show notes because I did want to mention that that you set it off handedly [TS]
01:14:12 ◼ ► and I thought it was worth bringing to the listener's attention that it is something to give a listen to if you can get [TS]
01:14:20 ◼ ► His Brady's instructions that one light candles but if you can obviously by the Avid support the artist if you want [TS]
01:14:30 ◼ ► but you can also do a spot of FINALLY other stuff if you can't listen to all in order. [TS]
01:14:37 ◼ ► That's that's that's my first thing because you know yeah I had a great order to be in or because because it's good [TS]
01:14:42 ◼ ► and also it makes some of the emotional moments more emotional when you kind of work towards them. [TS]
01:14:49 ◼ ► My second recommendation is don't search the case songs out on You Tube first because the first time one of the some of [TS]
01:14:56 ◼ ► the highlights on I guess is this song called go and it has got a really cool music video [TS]
01:15:01 ◼ ► but it's the first time you hear the song you're distracted by the amazing music video. [TS]
01:15:06 ◼ ► You not really hearing the song so if you can resist don't look up any of the songs on You Tube in til after you've [TS]
01:15:12 ◼ ► listened to them once or twice and then and then definitely go on to You Tube because the music video for go is CO [TS]
01:15:24 ◼ ► and finally if you're only going to listen to one song because that's the kind of person you are I guess I'm going to [TS]
01:15:30 ◼ ► have to recommend that one cold go because that's kind of the that's the famous one [TS]
01:15:35 ◼ ► and that's the Apollo landing on it's not necessarily my favorite I think my favorite might be one coat of the other [TS]
01:15:45 ◼ ► It's very well done song it actually makes me quite emotional. Yeah that one is that one is very good. [TS]
01:15:49 ◼ ► I can I mean I couldn't pull out many songs but that one I definitely thought oh this is this is really well done. [TS]
01:16:00 ◼ ► The a beat from the Sputnik very cleverly through the song quite like that one today. [TS]
01:16:10 ◼ ► and if it was about something else I I still would have thought the songs were fantastic but the fact is about space [TS]
01:16:19 ◼ ► I tell you what a public service broadcasting guys I mean this super cold they're way too cool to hang out with someone [TS]
01:16:25 ◼ ► but I would definitely be my mates because I'm obviously into all the same stuff I mean to you because I've got another [TS]
01:16:29 ◼ ► song from one of their other albums it's all about Mount Everest and they've got some like planes and things. [TS]
01:16:44 ◼ ► and I certainly am wondering though I mean I have these guys have disguises that they like Daft Punk because I'm [TS]
01:16:51 ◼ ► wondering if it really is Brady under that helmet and he uses public service broadcasting. [TS]
01:16:57 ◼ ► Oh I love the bad of the helping to write music about the Apollo missions and Everest and airplanes. [TS]
01:17:03 ◼ ► It seems a little suspicious of history we've never been seen in the same place at the same time. [TS]
01:17:11 ◼ ► and save them if you say me down the front trying my underwear on the stage come and say hello [TS]
01:17:16 ◼ ► and actually I'm just realizing of course you did just sing the song that I had to cut out about the about the slow [TS]
01:17:30 ◼ ► and I'm going to come out with a song about how adorable two our puppies are soon that's going to be their next album. [TS]
01:17:36 ◼ ► That would I think my head would explode if I did that you have a good cover would be blown if they do that. [TS]
01:17:41 ◼ ► I'm trying to think what if they could make songs about that would make them think like that my perfect band. [TS]
01:17:49 ◼ ► Apparently they put on quite a good visual show their live show but I've never seen them live [TS]
01:17:53 ◼ ► and that's a real that's a real test for a band in my opinion how could that allies say no. [TS]
01:18:06 ◼ ► and press all their funky buttons at the right times because a parent I think they mix at life as a select on the [TS]
01:18:12 ◼ ► artist knew like a girl talking and other people have a loaded up on their computer [TS]
01:18:17 ◼ ► and they're mixing it live as things go on or deaf and does the same thing as well. [TS]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and I tell you what that was disappointing because I love the Chemical Brothers music that Seriously I felt like I [TS]
01:18:35 ◼ ► or messaging each other for demanding well has been well I'm really pleased that you listen to that a few times I can't [TS]
01:18:44 ◼ ► ask any more. That's I'm proud of you. I would definitely recommend people listen to you have a go and see live music. [TS]
01:18:49 ◼ ► Now I am not a fan of live music. I'm going to take you to see live music sometime. [TS]
01:18:55 ◼ ► I'm going to hand pick something that I have no interest in seeing live music I don't understand why people like live [TS]
01:19:08 ◼ ► That's what live music is and I have to stand often watched the standing can be a pain [TS]
01:19:14 ◼ ► but there are a few there are a few live music spreads as you can have a superior to albums. [TS]
01:19:19 ◼ ► I admit I do get bored standing around this thing to music I don't like and my wife's more into music than me [TS]
01:19:25 ◼ ► and I've been at gigs where I've just thought I can't wait till this is over so I can go home because I'm sick of [TS]
01:19:29 ◼ ► standing up. But there are a few bands and a few things you can say that make you think I'm I'm glad I saw that. [TS]
01:19:36 ◼ ► Yeah I'm mentally running through my very limited catalogue of things I have seen live and I remember [TS]
01:19:49 ◼ ► I'll give two recommendations because people are going to ask in the read anyway who I was meant to read that best to [TS]
01:20:08 ◼ ► and read about why I won't bore you with but I will take you to say one of them and change your mind. [TS]
01:20:24 ◼ ► You sit and talk to me for two hours about watches every fortnight show you can come and see it [TS]
01:20:36 ◼ ► Like I will agree to many things Brady but I mean going to see live music is just tedious and it's boring. [TS]
01:20:44 ◼ ► I don't get it I don't get it. I'm not mad if saying that because I understand and you can have some boring times. [TS]
01:20:50 ◼ ► Let's talk music. Yes but you can also get some good ones. OK We will discuss this offline. When you go next. [TS]
01:21:10 ◼ ► Do you want to go first or do you want me to know you go first because you would have won. [TS]
01:21:15 ◼ ► Because I feel like we're like a couple of house husbands talking about Weight Watchers. [TS]
01:21:22 ◼ ► You were so uncomfortable with this. I just it just seems like such and such a silly thing to be doing. [TS]
01:21:30 ◼ ► I thought it was a great idea when you brought it up and now you seem intensely other comfortable [TS]
01:21:35 ◼ ► but not only that I had today. How much how much weight have you lost since the last protest or to a point to go yes. [TS]
01:21:48 ◼ ► and my weight loss chart looks pretty funny but the net loss between two weeks ago and now is two [TS]
01:22:00 ◼ ► What's that in kilograms because you promised to do until about kilograms two point two pounds of like just about one [TS]
01:22:06 ◼ ► or the means to me to be exacting for you. So I did promise you that I would do it in kilograms. That's my mistake. [TS]
01:22:21 ◼ ► We're Grey by only two kilograms and I've lost one point one So that that point suddenly becomes a problem. [TS]
01:22:39 ◼ ► and we're rounding we have to call that road I weigh I am happy to call that a draw I think you can claim victory if [TS]
01:22:45 ◼ ► you want because my number there I was going to give you is one point one kilograms. [TS]
01:22:53 ◼ ► Let me let me do the exact math then I feel like this is basically a draw because the real thing here is that we're [TS]
01:23:00 ◼ ► My scale hilariously measures to the ten thousandth of a pound is the number that actually recorded them. [TS]
01:23:11 ◼ ► Like you know what scale I'm really doubting that you actually measured to be ten thousandth of a pound. [TS]
01:23:18 ◼ ► And even if you think you do the amount of of uncertainty in that has to be enormous. But let me just let me do. OK. [TS]
01:23:27 ◼ ► His unit was going to type for a second because I was I was just doing it approximately a two point five let me get the [TS]
01:23:38 ◼ ► Now now entering to afford for ridiculous does of all places it could be it could win your point if you can get [TS]
01:23:46 ◼ ► yourself to one point to say it's worth checking. No I think you're going to win that for one second. [TS]
01:23:53 ◼ ► And what you're not going to I'm not going to win you know going to get yourself down to one point zero. [TS]
01:23:58 ◼ ► Hold on hold on. I thought for a split second I thought you were actually going to win it. [TS]
01:24:08 ◼ ► But I lost two point four two five one pounds which turned out to be exactly one point one kilogram so we have united [TS]
01:24:19 ◼ ► That's amazing I say oh I pulled it from the fire at the end because I've had a very bad couple of weeks. [TS]
01:24:28 ◼ ► My health chart is really embarrassing because I lost two point I basically lost two [TS]
01:24:35 ◼ ► and a half pounds in the first two days of mediately game back then have been slowly trying to crawl on my way back [TS]
01:24:46 ◼ ► but those first two days I was like This is awesome I'm going to lose all of the weight by the time slot comes around [TS]
01:24:56 ◼ ► but all of a sudden it's like back up back up like you know you ate a cheeseburger once like Apparently the [TS]
01:25:03 ◼ ► cheeseburger and everything everything is going right back and then the weight loss was super slow. [TS]
01:25:23 ◼ ► I thought him pretty know what Eva This is this is the funny thing is I was also getting ready to be like let me let me [TS]
01:25:33 ◼ ► and I do I will say that the one the one thing that I have always known that is my problem is that the busier I get the [TS]
01:25:41 ◼ ► harder I find to keep track of this health stuff and I have been. You've been a busy boy. [TS]
01:25:50 ◼ ► and my problem is always that if I get really busy I find that some part of my brain just doesn't pay any attention [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Just like Oh did I say oh yeah we were we were operating on autopilot and we just ate a bunch of crap. [TS]
01:26:06 ◼ ► OK I guess that's what happened. Brain. Yeah don't worry about it you're busy working on stuff. [TS]
01:26:15 ◼ ► and I am finding reasonably good sticking to my calorie counting. I think that's helping me. [TS]
01:26:20 ◼ ► I am looking at the numbers going in. Even when I'm being a bit naughty I'm not doing as well as I should. [TS]
01:26:25 ◼ ► Anyway this is where I am I am terrible about it because I make an attempt to calorie count [TS]
01:26:33 ◼ ► So you'd laugh that everybody thinks that I would be all over the calorie counting and my dinner. [TS]
01:26:41 ◼ ► Here's the thing even though my diet is relatively consistent it's not like one of the problems of calorie counting is [TS]
01:26:51 ◼ ► and then you're just wildly speculating about what the heck the amounts of various things are in the meals. [TS]
01:26:58 ◼ ► My life is very regular It's very consistent so it's not even like I have to expend mental effort to try to calculate. [TS]
01:27:05 ◼ ► I just need to press a button that says yes I eat the same breakfast that a few other day [TS]
01:27:15 ◼ ► but for some reason I just can't bring myself to do this consistently. I find it almost impossible. [TS]
01:27:21 ◼ ► Like if I am really good on one day with recording everything in my calorie tracker it raises the probability for one [TS]
01:27:32 ◼ ► It's I am I don't know why I am just unable to do this in a way and I really want to but I just I can't. [TS]
01:27:43 ◼ ► but about much I hope is the way I just want to put the products into though I spot numbers in so I just put two [TS]
01:27:49 ◼ ► hundred fifty breakfasts two hundred fifty that that sandwich and I look at the box [TS]
01:27:56 ◼ ► and it was about four hundred plus I had some that so I'm going to put six hundred on. [TS]
01:28:00 ◼ ► And and just slightly overestimate to say you don't shape them and just put rough numbers in [TS]
01:28:13 ◼ ► and I have already gone through the trouble of pre building in the meals that I normally eat. [TS]
01:28:17 ◼ ► So they're they're all I need to do is just press the button that says record that I had normal breakfast [TS]
01:28:22 ◼ ► and something something in my brain rebelled against this and finds it tedious beyond belief [TS]
01:28:27 ◼ ► and I am shocked at this behavior of my own. It's so counter to almost everything else that I do. [TS]
01:28:35 ◼ ► And first for some reason the Calorie counting is I just can't I just can't bear it. [TS]
01:28:41 ◼ ► It's interesting and I don't understand it anyway. So there is our There's our update for the people who want to know. [TS]
01:28:56 ◼ ► What's your opinion on that because you know every few years they were serving for years [TS]
01:29:01 ◼ ► but every Olympics say they check in a few new sports and demonstration sports and things like that [TS]
01:29:06 ◼ ► and there's a few sports people are mumbling about at the moment for a future Olympics and chess has come up [TS]
01:29:23 ◼ ► but I'm just obsessed with it as like the culture of chess and the mystique and the stories [TS]
01:29:36 ◼ ► and I know that you used to be a kind of chess didn't you back in it back in the day I was one of those nerds who was [TS]
01:29:45 ◼ ► So what do you think what would you think if it was announced that chess was under consideration for the winter games. [TS]
01:29:51 ◼ ► Well aren't there already a bunch of just weird sports in the Olympics. Yeah all of them now. [TS]
01:30:03 ◼ ► All of them no matter what you think about them I would say has a physical component to them. [TS]
01:30:09 ◼ ► Even even if it's something like you know shooting with a plate with people is quite stationary [TS]
01:30:15 ◼ ► and sometimes don't look like amazing specimens. It's still it's still a physical thing they're doing. [TS]
01:30:22 ◼ ► Chess is chess is different in that you can't moving pieces on a board as physical activity [TS]
01:30:33 ◼ ► I can't think of another sport currently in the Olympics that is comparable to chess. [TS]
01:30:43 ◼ ► and they have the ones from the twenty twelve London Olympics and you know you're right. [TS]
01:30:53 ◼ ► I don't know what dresses dressage is horses it's collective sort of dancing horses in a way just out of your size [TS]
01:31:01 ◼ ► and your size even that physical they have the speed walking which Henry did an excellent video on for the twenty five [TS]
01:31:23 ◼ ► But you would have just failed on a more glorious stage had to take exactly my second attempt to get a qualifying time [TS]
01:31:35 ◼ ► Even the weird ones trampoline is on here trampoline for some reason there are some kind of physical thing. [TS]
01:31:41 ◼ ► Look at the Olympic motor is faster higher stronger than I could have liked faster maybe could get a chance maybe you [TS]
01:32:00 ◼ ► We have a way to play a game of chess but I don't know I feel like the Olympics are just so arbitrary. [TS]
01:32:07 ◼ ► Anyway I can't get worked up about this if they would say oh yes we're going to put chess in the Olympics [TS]
01:32:12 ◼ ► Whatever it is all all of these sports stars are arbitrary assumptions and limits what difference does this one make. [TS]
01:32:28 ◼ ► Why would it diminish the Olympics though it just doesn't feel right it isn't doesn't feel like the Olympics don't get [TS]
01:32:33 ◼ ► me wrong some of the other sports that have been getting into the big from time to time have been pretty questionable [TS]
01:32:42 ◼ ► It's a it's a bridge too but I don't know I just wonder what you think and it sounds like you're indifferent. [TS]
01:32:53 ◼ ► I mean even even the thing can sound awful even though things like when when they go at least X. [TS]
01:33:00 ◼ ► Is in trouble because they used steroids to compete in the sport. I often think why are steroids not allowed. [TS]
01:33:07 ◼ ► Are we trying to see what can you push the human body to the absolute maximum I understand why steroids aren't allowed [TS]
01:33:14 ◼ ► if that's what we're going forward trying to see how fast can a man run around in little circles. [TS]
01:33:18 ◼ ► Yeah you know what why aren't steroids allowed. Well I can think of two reasons but yeah. [TS]
01:33:24 ◼ ► Well one is it could become an arms race of sorts and it would come down to of course a race of technology [TS]
01:33:35 ◼ ► and that's exactly what I would say the second reason I think is the safety of their competitors. [TS]
01:33:40 ◼ ► If you open those floodgates they will stop pushing them to themselves to very limits [TS]
01:33:48 ◼ ► and I don't think we should have rules for carriage that I have to end the argument. [TS]
01:33:56 ◼ ► I you know went on being a devil's advocate and say. What you just said. But in reality you know. [TS]
01:34:04 ◼ ► Come on now be fine with it actually. OK What they should do. Here's my plan for the Olympics. [TS]
01:34:19 ◼ ► Augmented humans and then it then like a Greek style no augment Taishan whatsoever a lympics [TS]
01:34:30 ◼ ► and with they have to compete naked like in great times. Yeah because you're little you little sport shorts. [TS]
01:34:36 ◼ ► If technology keeps progressing far enough well those are going to be nano shorts you can't trust them. [TS]
01:34:41 ◼ ► So you'd have you'd have you'd have no new just chess you could have Nuge chess at the Olympics. [TS]
01:34:46 ◼ ► Yeah yeah that's right you break chess into two into two tracks one of which is you can use as many nootropics in your [TS]
01:34:56 ◼ ► brain you can you can do whatever you want to try to augment the human physical form [TS]
01:35:03 ◼ ► and stuff you know why not the try to make this the best chess game that's ever happened between two humans will become [TS]
01:35:09 ◼ ► between two computers and with no limits in the two of you are sitting there this is a chess game. [TS]
01:35:19 ◼ ► and then the non augment to track the new yet the new chess they'd have to be sitting there naked moving their rooks. [TS]
01:35:30 ◼ ► They couldn't they couldn't use any steroids or anything but that this is this is this is my this is my plan. [TS]
01:35:42 ◼ ► and then you have people without shoes running races I think this is this is the future for the Olympics. [TS]
01:35:51 ◼ ► With these with these like I say unsafer and stuff you got enough money anything's possible. [TS]
01:36:10 ◼ ► and then think of how is spectacular the Olympics would be if you allowed all kinds of craziness just whatever you [TS]
01:36:22 ◼ ► Yet you can you can genetically breed creatures to just be the perfect sports people. [TS]
01:36:30 ◼ ► I don't see how this could possibly go wrong. I think it would be an amazing spectacle. [TS]
01:36:36 ◼ ► I'm not sure that the noodling pics would rate it would rate better in a lot of European countries. [TS]
01:36:46 ◼ ► Well you know Americans that Americans are a bit funny about nudity whereas in Europe it's like you know a sale of a [TS]
01:36:51 ◼ ► when Americans are a little prudishness Erm yeah you know I was making chess I guess that's where this is going yet I'm [TS]
01:36:59 ◼ ► totally up for it. I want to play naked jazz with you really. I'm thinking of all sorts of code. [TS]
01:37:12 ◼ ► Thank you for thank you for that I didn't expect I didn't expect to go down the new chess past [TS]
01:37:16 ◼ ► but hey that's what it's all about. And we go Where do you go for me. What's next. I had a brief question for you. [TS]
01:37:28 ◼ ► when we were looking at Isaac Newton's Principia you made a comment that many people were interested in that your [TS]
01:37:38 ◼ ► Yes you just you just close your little fist around the pen and you write in all caps. [TS]
01:37:47 ◼ ► Yeah but there was one comment that you made that you you also know shorthand is that did I read that right. You did. [TS]
01:38:00 ◼ ► Newspaper journalist part of my cadetship I wasn't allowed to become a fully fledged journalist with my my wings until [TS]
01:38:07 ◼ ► I passed two times I had to prove that I could do shorthand at one hundred twenty words per minute. [TS]
01:38:14 ◼ ► I think it was three minutes so I had short hand training and got faster and faster [TS]
01:38:22 ◼ ► and I used shorthand through my journalistic career especially in court because you're not allowed to record anything [TS]
01:38:29 ◼ ► So I had to furiously take down what was being said in court in my tale and shorthand [TS]
01:38:38 ◼ ► and I still I still use a little bit like if I'm from writing things down there are some words that are still raw in [TS]
01:38:44 ◼ ► and if it's just for mine consumption because it's quick a certain word so just to the funny little squiggles to line a [TS]
01:38:52 ◼ ► Yeah yeah it's like a brand that that there are two that I'm aware of the old the more old fashioned one was called [TS]
01:39:00 ◼ ► and then Tehran became the new bright young thing around the time that more recently than you think it was certainly a [TS]
01:39:10 ◼ ► Explain to me I only know dimly about shorthand but is my understanding of it is that [TS]
01:39:16 ◼ ► when you're writing shorthand you're writing down the sounds you're not writing down letters is that right. [TS]
01:39:22 ◼ ► No it's it's a lot more along the lines of letters and words every letter has a shortened form. [TS]
01:39:38 ◼ ► and then other words can be shortened then everything becomes more and more condensed. [TS]
01:39:43 ◼ ► I was never particularly good at some of my fellow I could us were very very talented I got some insane spades. [TS]
01:39:52 ◼ ► I can tell it now because I'm not any but my shorthand teacher at the newspaper gave you these tests [TS]
01:40:00 ◼ ► It's been a minute test it was a big deal because you know you had to pass two of them to become a proper journalist [TS]
01:40:09 ◼ ► and the examples that we used she would read from that you would have to take down in shorthand for three minutes [TS]
01:40:16 ◼ ► and then read back to her correctly were taken from hand side the recordings of the South Australian Parliament. [TS]
01:40:27 ◼ ► or three sections of hands that she kept specially for one hundred twenty words per minute tests because she thought I [TS]
01:40:34 ◼ ► was easy. So I guess you are left with the same piece of hands to us and you know little stuff. [TS]
01:40:39 ◼ ► If you crossed off if you'd ever done that place before and she had these special ones that she's safe. [TS]
01:40:44 ◼ ► So when it was time for one hundred twenty words to minute test she said are we going to do the easy bit now [TS]
01:40:56 ◼ ► when there's a huge argument in the parliament there's a term that gets written to hand side which is members [TS]
01:41:06 ◼ ► and then the speaker of the parliament says Order order and then the and then someone starts speaking [TS]
01:41:15 ◼ ► So this is one section of hands which is littered with members interjecting the speaker order members interjecting the [TS]
01:41:32 ◼ ► and that's where you get your hundred twenty because it's really easy to take them because you make all these little [TS]
01:41:37 ◼ ► shortcuts so I wasn't particularly good but I got one hundred twenty words a minute [TS]
01:41:46 ◼ ► I'm looking at a little picture here of the letters in T. Line short hand drawn to pull it up so I was entirely wrong. [TS]
01:41:54 ◼ ► I was thinking you're doing it by sound but there is an alphabet yet there is the thing that isn't mine. [TS]
01:42:00 ◼ ► Is my old Palm Pilot days where a palm pilot had a little special alphabet that you had to write on the Palm Pilot in [TS]
01:42:17 ◼ ► Line shorthand is reminding me of this that I used to be really good at writing at what was called Graffiti which was [TS]
01:42:26 ◼ ► and sometimes used the Palm Pilot all through college I ended up writing lots of my notes in graffiti as opposed to [TS]
01:42:35 ◼ ► and I got so used to constantly on my Palm Pilot doing the the simplified alphabet [TS]
01:42:41 ◼ ► and I got the letter A for example is exactly the same that in graffiti you just do it as has a quick update now [TS]
01:42:52 ◼ ► The thing with Taylor I know is that a you're looking at in the Tehran half a bit like [TS]
01:42:58 ◼ ► but you very quickly learn almost all those letters you never really use like that they become parts of other things. [TS]
01:43:06 ◼ ► They after this kind of like it's a bit like Mr Miyagi getting you to send the floor in a sense [TS]
01:43:13 ◼ ► and then later a misdemeanor he says well you know I actually can use that after that [TS]
01:43:17 ◼ ► but it has taught you a whole bunch of skills you are about to start using So it's quite it's quite an interesting [TS]
01:43:23 ◼ ► I'm funny really interesting looking at all these Google Images of other people's tail [TS]
01:43:26 ◼ ► and because I can I can read a lot of it it's quite funny but so they go I did a show and I don't do my short handed [TS]
01:43:34 ◼ ► or capitals this time or in person I want to see you write out some shorthand or you have this [TS]
01:43:38 ◼ ► and I have to be very curious to see that outer performing monkey boy thank you that is exactly what I want them [TS]
01:43:48 ◼ ► I probably could I could probably do about eighty to ninety words commit now I reckon I'm going to practice my one [TS]
01:43:54 ◼ ► hundred twenty words a minute speaking that's what I'm going to do. Help up when my old U.K. Video in. [TS]
01:44:00 ◼ ► Or you can write that down I'm sure I definitely couldn't do any of it as I couldn't. [TS]
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01:46:08 ◼ ► Just before we started to record I was listening to our old podcast the one from two episodes ago. [TS]
01:46:15 ◼ ► I listened to that today as well that when I was at my run out how do you think we did. I deny it was Aurora. [TS]
01:46:26 ◼ ► I obviously didn't like the book and had bit of a rant and you kind of had bit of a chuckle [TS]
01:46:33 ◼ ► and basically it turns out a really good friend of mine is a fan of the book as well. [TS]
01:46:39 ◼ ► Your good friend and I think you're a fan of the book. Another good friend of my band at the book I should say. [TS]
01:46:48 ◼ ► when I was having about it he said you had a problem with that book is basically the whole book just can be written on [TS]
01:46:54 ◼ ► index cards. You know it's two or three sentences that has been passed that to an entire book. [TS]
01:47:01 ◼ ► So I found that quite quite gratifying because maybe that was the problem for me I just want to cut to the chase [TS]
01:47:10 ◼ ► but then I thought the podcast was fun I'm glad you entertained by you seem to me you seemed more entertaining than [TS]
01:47:17 ◼ ► anyone that getting things done section particularly at the start when you really lay into me. [TS]
01:47:22 ◼ ► That has to be my favorite thing that we have done the part I thought that was that was just great. [TS]
01:47:36 ◼ ► and we are over one hundred fifty thousand downloads on that episode so I think that I think that people liked it as [TS]
01:47:43 ◼ ► Well maybe I should give you a twenty minute section next protests where you can tell me why the moon landings were [TS]
01:47:48 ◼ ► faked. We need to find more things that you can get you can get really livened up about snow. [TS]
01:47:55 ◼ ► If you do that why the moon then is fated to be like your revenge on a line into my passion. No no no. [TS]
01:48:01 ◼ ► I would only bring up the moon landings being fake which they obviously are simply to get you riled up to defend it. [TS]
01:48:15 ◼ ► Do you feel that we have unfinished business because obviously we can talk about everything in the book. [TS]
01:48:25 ◼ ► when I was listening to the episode I was thinking for first a broader point which is that the longer that we do this [TS]
01:48:35 ◼ ► pod cast the more I have this feeling of how of how impossible it is to communicate with other humans. [TS]
01:48:47 ◼ ► Even then I think this is this is this is a perfect example of we are we are not adversaries are we doing this thing [TS]
01:49:01 ◼ ► when we talk about stuff it is very interesting to me how hard it can be to communicate ideas to another person [TS]
01:49:09 ◼ ► and then of course as soon as it gets on the Internet it gets wildly distorted even interest in the read a comment [TS]
01:49:16 ◼ ► Section to me was another example of this of listening to myself just failing to communicate thoughts inside my own [TS]
01:49:36 ◼ ► and I've also felt from you sometimes we've talked about they are like it's hard for you sometimes to feel like you're [TS]
01:49:40 ◼ ► explaining to me a thought that you have made understand that but I have to say I didn't get that from the red [TS]
01:49:50 ◼ ► and dried tomatoes same like there were a portion of people who just sort of shared my thinking in safe areas they [TS]
01:50:02 ◼ ► and then there was another portion perhaps a larger portion because they are more vocal of people who think the book [TS]
01:50:08 ◼ ► had tremendous value and has done a lot for them what I think has the ability to do a lot for them [TS]
01:50:18 ◼ ► but I didn't feel like there was I didn't see a lot of stuff in the Reddit where I felt like people didn't get where [TS]
01:50:28 ◼ ► but it's this phenomenon of time implementing the system versus time that is working. [TS]
01:50:37 ◼ ► OK this is the joke I always make about you spending more time coming up with systems than actually using the systems [TS]
01:50:42 ◼ ► to help you so I don't think that there is any way that I can give an impression that I do work as opposed to creating [TS]
01:50:55 ◼ ► Because when we talk about something I'm always talking about the systems and the lists right [TS]
01:51:01 ◼ ► and I don't talk about the hours that are spent actually working because there's nothing to talk about. [TS]
01:51:15 ◼ ► Well to me that's the most interesting part of your life. But to you that's the most boring part of your life. [TS]
01:51:25 ◼ ► but I just think it is just interesting that that there's always going to be this imbalance about like what you talk [TS]
01:51:38 ◼ ► and a similar thing the only thing I was I can think to relate this to you is like talking about things on the pod cast [TS]
01:51:45 ◼ ► that either annoyed me or things that aggravate me or times that I'm stressed out and [TS]
01:51:50 ◼ ► when I listen back to the podcast I can see how a person has this image of of my life is being very high strung all the [TS]
01:52:00 ◼ ► Thing that you talk about on the pod cast are those moments and so you're always going to end up. [TS]
01:52:11 ◼ ► Does this imbalance between the things that they spend time talking about and the actual time of their of their lives. [TS]
01:52:19 ◼ ► And so with the with the Getting Things Done We didn't even touch on the whole reason why that system works really well [TS]
01:52:26 ◼ ► for me is that I spend a very small amount of time each week preplanning the work for the rest of the week [TS]
01:52:43 ◼ ► I like a chef getting all his ingredients out for twenty five ten minutes and then spending an hour [TS]
01:52:52 ◼ ► but it's also why you can imagine that two chefs getting together could spend forever talking about the preparation [TS]
01:53:06 ◼ ► What I wanted to just pacify when you asked like why did this system work for me as opposed to other things. [TS]
01:53:12 ◼ ► This was the big deal was was creating this separation between working me and planning me [TS]
01:53:27 ◼ ► I think it's useful to think about yourself in these different terms of present you future you and past you [TS]
01:53:33 ◼ ► and trying to set up the notion of deciding what you're going to work on in the future [TS]
01:53:42 ◼ ► and trying to stick to it as closely as possible is an extremely helpful notion of I already decided what I'm going to [TS]
01:53:51 ◼ ► be working on today so that when I get up I'm not thinking oh what am I going to do today. Let me look at my list. [TS]
01:54:00 ◼ ► Set it's already clear for me because this is now in my life I usually do this on Sunday mornings. [TS]
01:54:07 ◼ ► I do my little bit of pre-planning for the week and then the rest of the week I shouldn't be doing that stuff [TS]
01:54:18 ◼ ► That's that was that was I think the biggest thing that was missing from the conversation last week that we didn't [TS]
01:54:23 ◼ ► really get to get to talk about long for spontaneity and sometimes not knowing what's going to happen during the week [TS]
01:54:33 ◼ ► or that sends chills down your spine if you like that even the way you're framing it I always find this so interesting [TS]
01:54:39 ◼ ► because you have an edge in that my life is this life of boring gray boxes that are all perfectly pre-planned [TS]
01:54:56 ◼ ► It's your question is so far off I feel like I don't even know how to how to answer it. [TS]
01:55:05 ◼ ► And it also presupposes that I am I am able to one hundred percent of the time just just sit down [TS]
01:55:15 ◼ ► I don't always do that days go wrong things don't go according to plug it happens all the time in my life. [TS]
01:55:23 ◼ ► All right right. I'm aware that you have this suite of programs and software and things that I don't fully understand. [TS]
01:55:31 ◼ ► Made by this group called the group and you've got the focus and on the planet and I'll need a license and a diary [TS]
01:55:41 ◼ ► Let me ask you this how many times a day do you look at to open an application with only its name on the focus is [TS]
01:56:00 ◼ ► Reason why I like it is because I do the pre-planning on on Sundays normally. Yeah right. [TS]
01:56:08 ◼ ► And then what happens is during the week I've set aside times for various activities [TS]
01:56:19 ◼ ► For example on my only focus right now I'm looking at one of those activities is writing. [TS]
01:56:26 ◼ ► So there are times that are set aside for writing which I happen to be times I find and usually productive [TS]
01:56:32 ◼ ► and so I don't really need to look at that list but I do just open it so it's there and I see it. [TS]
01:56:47 ◼ ► and you seem to feel like you know live tweeting during the day as this list you are doing with a red badge had like [TS]
01:56:57 ◼ ► That doesn't sound to me like a lot Sunday morning planning my week. The eggs and then don't look at it again. [TS]
01:57:05 ◼ ► This sounds like a list with a number counting down that was dominating your day that was the day where I was intending [TS]
01:57:16 ◼ ► OK So one other one of the list that I have which is what I was going through that day. [TS]
01:57:20 ◼ ► While I'm not as another listener I have a list for each activity sort of lists within lists within lists. [TS]
01:57:30 ◼ ► There's no there's no list within lists and I have the writing I have the hello internet podcast I have videos. [TS]
01:57:53 ◼ ► and I can see here are all of the things that I need to do today. If I'm going to upload a video. [TS]
01:58:02 ◼ ► Now the the the focus list happened to be over one hundred because I thought there's actually two things that were [TS]
01:58:11 ◼ ► And so what I was doing was I was just grinding through basically a long checklist that I have set up of here all the [TS]
01:58:21 ◼ ► and I was finishing animating that morning which is why it was an unusually long day. [TS]
01:58:30 ◼ ► And I'm not like focused on the list the list is just there so it's like OK I finished the rough animation click I took [TS]
01:58:41 ◼ ► Now I need to synchronize the audio with the animation then once I do that click take it off. [TS]
01:58:45 ◼ ► OK what's the next thing on the list. Clean up any animation work that needs to be done. [TS]
01:58:50 ◼ ► Click to go and that's all I'm doing like I'm just going through that thing to get to the end of the day [TS]
01:58:56 ◼ ► and then I was also doing that with some of the podcast which is OK I have the audio the audio needs to be processed [TS]
01:59:01 ◼ ► once the audio is processed you know tick click that box was the next thing that comes up. [TS]
01:59:05 ◼ ► Now I need to do this so that I find that extremely helpful. And that's that's the way that I I use this. [TS]
01:59:14 ◼ ► But the the idea that I'm sitting there thinking about the lists constantly is couldn't be more wrong. [TS]
01:59:27 ◼ ► But I do think about on Sunday mornings OK what what's going to happen in the next week. [TS]
01:59:34 ◼ ► How do how does this system need to be set up so that during the week I don't have to think about it I just have lists [TS]
01:59:48 ◼ ► That's the way this system works and that's why I find it really helpful. Separate the planning from the doing. [TS]
02:00:00 ◼ ► My least better oh wonderful I should use a different list system. Oh I definitely think that. [TS]
02:00:07 ◼ ► But one of the things that I have I have learned and I meant to follow it up with you last time [TS]
02:00:12 ◼ ► but the conversation moved away really quickly is you mention the term productivity porn [TS]
02:00:19 ◼ ► and that that is a standard term on the Internet which is the thing that you need to learn to be careful of which is if [TS]
02:00:25 ◼ ► you're just thinking about your system you're not really working or you're not you're not doing something. [TS]
02:00:31 ◼ ► This is the equivalent of looking at pornography if you're just thinking about your system. [TS]
02:00:36 ◼ ► And so I'm aware that a time is when I when I think about how something can be done better. [TS]
02:00:45 ◼ ► I make a note of it and then again when Sunday rolls around that's my time to look at that stuff [TS]
02:00:52 ◼ ► and to think oh this this crazy thought that I had in the middle of a Thursday afternoon is this still useful thought [TS]
02:01:00 ◼ ► or is this something that I can just just delete as opposed to like that is not the time to start really getting into [TS]
02:01:08 ◼ ► it because you should still be working now you shouldn't be tinkering with your system [TS]
02:01:13 ◼ ► and you have to learn how to not be trying to tinker ring with the system all the time. [TS]
02:01:23 ◼ ► and it is extremely helpful to me to be able to do stuff like this as opposed to just feeling like I'm constantly in [TS]
02:01:32 ◼ ► the wilderness and trying to decide in the moment what I'm going to work on that that I find is not very helpful. [TS]
02:01:50 ◼ ► I mean the biggest problem is me following through more problems with me as a human being than I think there are with [TS]
02:01:59 ◼ ► with. System Really. I got I always try to improve the system because that's the part that you can improve. [TS]
02:02:05 ◼ ► But sometimes I just I'm not working very well or I'm working in a really low productivity [TS]
02:02:12 ◼ ► but particularly with the writing is always the thing that feels like it is the most out of my control. [TS]
02:02:19 ◼ ► But it's I don't know how to work on those things directly so that's why I focus on always trying to improve the system. [TS]
02:02:25 ◼ ► We talked last time about some of the problems that I have with getting things done in a modern world with computers [TS]
02:02:34 ◼ ► But my mind's system is something that is adapted to me over the years now of tweaking [TS]
02:02:46 ◼ ► and trying to make it a little bit better at a time so I think it's for me as a person this is the best thing that I I [TS]
02:02:53 ◼ ► have without going into details of me saying it's not my business but does your wife use the system. [TS]
02:03:02 ◼ ► I know I'm nothing mysterious it's just you know you share house with her and I just want to have. [TS]
02:03:08 ◼ ► Because she's obviously the person who you know you spend the most time with to she use a system like this [TS]
02:03:13 ◼ ► or is she more of a free spirit or. Yeah I mean she doesn't use anything remotely close to my system. [TS]
02:03:25 ◼ ► but I think she does it in the much more informal way that most people do it where they have they have lists [TS]
02:03:33 ◼ ► And I'm aware that that my that my wife does things that when she's feeling overwhelmed she makes a list of stuff [TS]
02:03:40 ◼ ► and then she sort of goes through that but she does she doesn't have she doesn't have a system like mine. [TS]
02:03:54 ◼ ► or is a better like the fact that you have this sort of quite regimented system and the person who you. [TS]
02:04:00 ◼ ► Your home in your life with Doesn't To set of a cause problems or is it completely ese. [TS]
02:04:07 ◼ ► and this is where again I have independent evidence that I am better now than I used to be because my wife she knew me [TS]
02:04:32 ◼ ► and she is the first one to acknowledge that I am a way better way more reliable person than I ever used to be [TS]
02:04:39 ◼ ► and she is fully aware that it is because I put the systems in place for myself and that [TS]
02:04:56 ◼ ► There's no friction here she is a thrilled that I am this way because she has seen me build myself into a better person [TS]
02:05:11 ◼ ► and I don't even really think that you should read getting things done. You're a King you're a natural. [TS]
02:05:18 ◼ ► and I also don't think that this is the kind of thing that you can forced on another person. [TS]
02:05:25 ◼ ► Someone has to want to do this and that was sort of made reference to it in the past [TS]
02:05:33 ◼ ► but I used to used to work with people who wanted to build systems like this you have to want to do this [TS]
02:05:45 ◼ ► when we talk about productivity systems I can sometimes see in the read that people react in very opposite ways [TS]
02:05:51 ◼ ► and some people go yes I totally understand this like Let's talk about the details [TS]
02:06:00 ◼ ► At all and I don't think that there are I don't think that that you can force a person to be one way or the other. [TS]
02:06:10 ◼ ► That's why I don't force this on anybody. I just talk about it because the thing that I think about. [TS]
02:06:17 ◼ ► But I'm I'm not I'm not Avengelyne saying oh everybody should adopt my system and not not in the slightest. [TS]
02:06:24 ◼ ► Why do you think people are so fascinated with your systems and your way of working. [TS]
02:06:33 ◼ ► Because I mean you were the first to admit this to you're not a massively productive person [TS]
02:06:39 ◼ ► but I could imagine someone saying Oh my goodness I have to know how destine works because he's so protective [TS]
02:06:46 ◼ ► and he has different jobs and a huge family there's all this different stuff and he still churns out stuff. [TS]
02:06:51 ◼ ► Or I could see someone saying how does Henry do it he's got Minute Physics he's got a minute [TS]
02:06:59 ◼ ► He's got he's traveling all over the world and he's making all these videos and that [TS]
02:07:04 ◼ ► and yet the person they want to know about the person whose productivity system they seem so fascinated by is the guy [TS]
02:07:21 ◼ ► and I would take slight issue with your statement that I am not productive. So yeah I know we've discussed this before. [TS]
02:07:28 ◼ ► You are above average. But my answer to to that is partly why I think people are interested. [TS]
02:07:33 ◼ ► I may just be please let me know when they read it the actual reason under speculating here. [TS]
02:07:38 ◼ ► but I've always been I have always tried to be really clear about it that I I am interested in getting the most amount [TS]
02:07:49 ◼ ► but that is not the same thing as being interested in in working constantly I am not interested in working all of the [TS]
02:07:59 ◼ ► time. But I I am extremely interested in when I am working working as effectively as possible. [TS]
02:08:09 ◼ ► And one of the things I think is is a real like something I think about a lot is what is in my brain I think of it as [TS]
02:08:19 ◼ ► as the disease of busy ness and that it's really easy for people to be busy all the time [TS]
02:08:27 ◼ ► and I think some people like to feel that they are busy with work they're busy busy busy busy busy. [TS]
02:08:41 ◼ ► and been successful of removing an enormous amount of business from my life because I try to be really ruthless [TS]
02:08:55 ◼ ► I have written another draft of the video which is the best kind of thing that I can do. But you know what. [TS]
02:09:02 ◼ ► Like if I open it I've been really terrible female lately if I open up my email lately I actually now have a couple [TS]
02:09:08 ◼ ► hundred e-mail messages that are just totally unread I haven't even looked at them yet. [TS]
02:09:13 ◼ ► And I'm not concerned about that because the best kind of work that I can do is bringing a video closer to release [TS]
02:09:22 ◼ ► which is what I've been focused on for the past couple weeks and it's why I have another video out now. [TS]
02:09:27 ◼ ► So I guess that's why people are interested because I care a lot about when I am working working to maximum efficiency. [TS]
02:09:48 ◼ ► If all of the people let me back it up I want all of them because there are there are some there are some people who [TS]
02:10:00 ◼ ► Successful people that I meet they seem to me to be total workaholics like they are working all the time [TS]
02:10:14 ◼ ► and I am almost always like the least interested in working person that I know who is still achieved some level of [TS]
02:10:27 ◼ ► My other guess is also just just like I try to be really really free in admitting like I used to just be terrible [TS]
02:10:34 ◼ ► and I have made myself better and so maybe that's why people are into this well like I guess story of hope. [TS]
02:10:42 ◼ ► Now I cry I often forget this because I don't spend a lot of time with this sort of person [TS]
02:10:49 ◼ ► but I forget that the majority of people consider their ideal job to be one where they have a lot of free time to go on [TS]
02:11:03 ◼ ► and to me that's like it's a strange thing and I know it's a good thing but to me it's a strange thing [TS]
02:11:09 ◼ ► and I forget that that's what most people want in life they want to be successful and have a great career [TS]
02:11:18 ◼ ► But I want lots and lots of time to themselves and I guess pick because people are saying that and you. [TS]
02:11:22 ◼ ► And like I have no aspirations like that I want to. I actually enjoy working too much. [TS]
02:11:28 ◼ ► If I have too much time away from work I start getting antsy and unhappy and because it's what I want to be doing it. [TS]
02:11:38 ◼ ► Everyone has that threshold that I can't not work that if I don't work. I also start to feel just kind of depressed. [TS]
02:12:00 ◼ ► I think most people who have that feeling have it much more like you do where they feel like they want to be working [TS]
02:12:07 ◼ ► If my threshold is something like twenty five percent your threshold is somewhere around ninety five percent [TS]
02:12:17 ◼ ► and I feel like I can see she ate that need for work much sooner than you can if you were able to peer into our brains [TS]
02:12:32 ◼ ► and I really focus on trying to keep those edges crystal clear of am I doing work now because if I'm doing work I want [TS]
02:12:40 ◼ ► to always be working on the most important thing that has the most impact to my business [TS]
02:12:46 ◼ ► and then if I'm not doing the most impactful thing well then then I'm OK Just now I'm not working. [TS]
02:12:53 ◼ ► Now I'm just going to relax now I'm going to play a video game and I'm going to read [TS]
02:12:56 ◼ ► or now I'm going to explore someplace like that. That's how my life is is divided up. [TS]
02:13:01 ◼ ► OK The very next bullet point that I had here which are fantastic you about as a follow up to the G T D which I'm not [TS]
02:13:08 ◼ ► but like I would want to know what is your system for working like we spent some time talking about my system [TS]
02:13:17 ◼ ► but I have a suspicion that you wouldn't be able to even articulate what your system is that your system is you sit [TS]
02:13:26 ◼ ► I mean that's kind of what I did say that no I didn't say you'd written in the shower [TS]
02:13:29 ◼ ► and I sprayed the system questionmark before I went for my run and it made me think well it's my system [TS]
02:13:37 ◼ ► And then I'm very sketchy and I just jump from thing to thing whatever takes my fancy [TS]
02:13:44 ◼ ► and that is stuff does fall through the cracks a lot more with me because they don't get written down as much. [TS]
02:13:50 ◼ ► I mean I put I put all important things into my calendar so I don't miss appointments days I have to pay my taxes [TS]
02:14:02 ◼ ► Yes thing which you seem to which you seem to have taken control of in my calendar which is amazing to do with craft. [TS]
02:14:07 ◼ ► But if I had to define my system in a on an index card I would say it goes along the lines of I get up in the morning [TS]
02:14:19 ◼ ► and I do the thing that I'm most excited about and the thing I most want to create [TS]
02:14:24 ◼ ► and the thing that I'm most enthusiastic and things that I'm not enthused by but I have to be done [TS]
02:14:47 ◼ ► Writers I'm so excited to make that video whereas doing my tax will be done the day before my meeting with the [TS]
02:14:58 ◼ ► So everything so cool things go to the top of the list boring things get pushed down as low as I can possibly pay [TS]
02:15:05 ◼ ► without being so low that catastrophe happens which I know is not a good system when you just describe it that way. [TS]
02:15:16 ◼ ► Least the part where you talk about things getting pushed down to the bottom. I do the same thing. [TS]
02:15:22 ◼ ► Things don't fall through the cracks because I write everything down so it's all in my system. [TS]
02:15:28 ◼ ► But I'm I'm much more aware of making conscious decisions to not do things now because there's always an infinite [TS]
02:15:39 ◼ ► and so yes something like taxes definitely gets pushed off until the point when it becomes urgent [TS]
02:15:50 ◼ ► That stuff gets gets pushed away but it's usually because I'm pushing higher priority tasks to the front. [TS]
02:15:56 ◼ ► But there's always an infinite number of business stuff that can be done and will end. [TS]
02:16:00 ◼ ► Lots of parts of tasks which are very low value tend to just not get done in my system because I'm making a judgment [TS]
02:16:12 ◼ ► I want to be able to survey the field of all of my possible options and make decisions about what needs to happen. [TS]
02:16:22 ◼ ► and I think this is partly just because my projects take longer than yours do that I cannot rely on interest [TS]
02:16:35 ◼ ► That is deadly for me because I will always become more interested in a new project faster than I can finish the old [TS]
02:16:43 ◼ ► And so part of this system for me is trying to make sure that I keep working on something longer than the point at [TS]
02:16:54 ◼ ► But you get the payoff from the moment it's created like that really drives me like if I have some idea for a video [TS]
02:17:01 ◼ ► and it involves a really really tedious animation because I sometimes do those things to take like two days in [TS]
02:17:07 ◼ ► Photoshop or just moving things around the night one of the nights on the board you spend forever. [TS]
02:17:16 ◼ ► but I was so motivated by seeing the finished product that I would have spent months doing it because even though [TS]
02:17:24 ◼ ► that's boring the the the payoff at the end really motivates me so of course I'm always more excited by a new idea. [TS]
02:17:42 ◼ ► and then I have some There's like a half life of interest in the thing which I often feel like I'm racing against to [TS]
02:17:50 ◼ ► finish to finish the draft of the video and then to get it animated as quickly as possible after that. [TS]
02:17:57 ◼ ► But what about the thrill of the reveal. You've mentioned this before and this this again. [TS]
02:18:06 ◼ ► I am I feel much more just a sensation of relief when I put a video up of like oh thank God that's over [TS]
02:18:18 ◼ ► I don't I don't have the same kind of like everybody take a look at the thing with the way the curtain feeling that I [TS]
02:18:25 ◼ ► think you obviously do and that is clearly able to motivate you much more to work on things. [TS]
02:18:31 ◼ ► Again I think that you benefit from being able to have much shorter turnaround times than I can. [TS]
02:18:40 ◼ ► and then also get the video out in a couple of days I bet I would probably feel a lot more like you do like boys [TS]
02:18:48 ◼ ► But because my my process is just longer by the time it's done it is mostly just oh thank god I have I've been pushing [TS]
02:18:57 ◼ ► and now it's was you know down the other side it can go and I'm going to sit here on the top of the hill [TS]
02:19:07 ◼ ► and because this this doing this protest is an insight more into my way of working I mean we're recording this on a [TS]
02:19:27 ◼ ► and that was I have often thought that me doing the podcast is way more like your videos. Yeah. [TS]
02:19:34 ◼ ► And even though the videos are my main thing I would say that the pod cast from start to finish is just WAY easier [TS]
02:20:00 ◼ ► So the pod cast has been a really interesting experience for me to work on the other reason why I think it's me getting [TS]
02:20:07 ◼ ► a tiny bit of insight into your work is that the podcast it's Aside from the live recording which I always find [TS]
02:20:17 ◼ ► and there's a there's a way at which I can do the editing at any time and I can really sit down [TS]
02:20:25 ◼ ► and spend a long amount of time going through and editing the podcast in a way that I could never do with writing. [TS]
02:20:33 ◼ ► I have sat down with the pod cast for four hours straight and edit and then I get lunch [TS]
02:20:40 ◼ ► and I can do that on a weekend in a way that is just impossible for me to do with writing. [TS]
02:20:46 ◼ ► There is a very different kind of work and it has been a really interesting experience [TS]
02:21:04 ◼ ► when you're writing sometimes you're just sitting there waiting for Clay to photon from heaven. [TS]
02:21:10 ◼ ► Yeah that's the frustrating thing with writing whereas with the podcast there's only one way things go which is cut [TS]
02:21:26 ◼ ► I have learned and this comes back to my obsession with being productive when I'm working. [TS]
02:21:35 ◼ ► I might as well just never write anything because nothing I ever write during those hours is good. [TS]
02:21:44 ◼ ► but afternoons are just death whereas I can edit the podcast at any old time I can edit in the afternoon. [TS]
02:21:51 ◼ ► and I've occasionally I wake up really early in the mornings like I don't know why sometimes my brain just says I was [TS]
02:21:56 ◼ ► three in the morning is time to get up and I'm really happy when I have a pod cast that we recorded [TS]