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00:00:13   I hear you went to a balloon festival of some sort I went to a balloon festival with the Bristol International Balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/13">TS</a>]

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00:00:33   acknowledged name like the collective noun maybe a fiesta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/33">TS</a>]

00:00:37   or below are here what is the collective noun for hot air balloons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   I'm shakin with is like their first degree search of the poker if you are what fifteen seconds in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/40">TS</a>]

00:00:46   and already there is some Brady keyboard typing that I'm going to be cutting out collective noun for billions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/46">TS</a>]

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00:00:59   Are No hang on there's there's all sorts of things here there's heart some silly ones here so I think some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/59">TS</a>]

00:01:04   and a victory I don't really believe most of these collective Now there I think is just people making up words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/64">TS</a>]

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00:01:25   Yeah so I did go to the Bristol International Balloon Fiesta for for a day and got a special V.I.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/85">TS</a>]

00:01:37   Packing purse I've got to go into the balloonist carpark got me know I needed to get me really close to the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/97">TS</a>]

00:01:43   but it also meant you could get out really easily. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   Which is very handy because two hundred thousand people went to go and one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/105">TS</a>]

00:01:51   and getting it out for civilians is an absolute nightmare. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/111">TS</a>]

00:01:56   Like hours and hours it takes to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   but I went straight to the emergency road with all the vans that chasing the balloon so I had a I had a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/118">TS</a>]

00:02:04   experience than the average Joe. I'm going to be honest here he told me you went to this this hot air balloon fiesta. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/124">TS</a>]

00:02:11   What I had in my mind was some little local event with you know a few hobbyist hot air balloon hit I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/131">TS</a>]

00:02:20   but two hundred thousand people that's a serious that the serious number of people this is this is a really do is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/140">TS</a>]

00:02:25   real to I mean I went to every morning and evening throughout the event which goes for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/145">TS</a>]

00:02:31   or four days later these mass a sense where a whole bunch of balloons or sort of take of together and I reckon sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/151">TS</a>]

00:02:39   or seventy must've gone from on I made a video I sent it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/159">TS</a>]

00:02:43   I mean you saw the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   and that's just some of the balloons going up it's to big thing you getting images what I was googling for Actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/164">TS</a>]

00:02:52   was thinking how big our balloon festivals because the only one I know off the top of my head is the one that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/172">TS</a>]

00:02:58   in New Mexico every Yeah I mean that's the granddaddy of them all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   and I thought oh this is why I was thinking we are that's going to be my scale of comparison here because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/181">TS</a>]

00:03:06   that's the biggest one and I don't see numbers of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/186">TS</a>]

00:03:11   but numbers of balloons is five hundred at the New Mexico one so you figure the one that you went to is just slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/191">TS</a>]

00:03:21   less than half as big as the biggest That's pretty impressive and it's in your backyard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/201">TS</a>]

00:03:26   I mean Bristol is one of the world capitals of hot air ballooning the the biggest hot air balloon company in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/206">TS</a>]

00:03:33   is based here in a couple of other ones it's a it's a hotbed of hot air ballooning here pursue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/213">TS</a>]

00:03:38   and quite often in the evening you to say want to tell you flying H No if the weather is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/218">TS</a>]

00:03:43   but this is a this is quite I saw it when the when the fiesta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   and you say that you be I was driving home one of the other dice along the murder weapon just looked at the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/226">TS</a>]

00:03:51   and you just see dozens and dozens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   and dozens of balloons just like zooming passes it's quite amazing the idea of of just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/233">TS</a>]

00:03:59   and on a normal day looking up in the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   and seeing a hot air balloon floating along doing a little thing that sounds delightful. That's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/241">TS</a>]

00:04:07   I don't like a really a really nice thing to randomly see in the sky just a that a happy little hot air balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/247">TS</a>]

00:04:12   floating along I have a real special relationship hot air balloons Toyota the years I've three Some films are my reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/252">TS</a>]

00:04:19   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/259">TS</a>]

00:04:19   and i even if you know about that there was a a scientist at the University of Nottingham who in her spare time with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/259">TS</a>]

00:04:26   amazing world record hot air balloon assist who did only is amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/266">TS</a>]

00:04:31   and she talked to the university into buying her a hot air balloon it became the University of Nottingham hot air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/271">TS</a>]

00:04:37   balloon with all the branding all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   and I sort of followed her through the journey of having it made him I wish I actually went on its first flight over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/279">TS</a>]

00:04:44   the Swiss Alps and things like that so I had this like quite a long standing relationship with balloons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/284">TS</a>]

00:04:51   and this particular balloonist who really sadly actually then died she got she got cancer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/291">TS</a>]

00:04:56   and daughters really really sad and she always was a really really amazing lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/296">TS</a>]

00:05:00   and making these videos with her was one of the reprieve religious of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   and I still can't see a hot air balloon without thinking if I had I was Jennifer oaks and she's an amazing woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/303">TS</a>]

00:05:08   but because of her I have this real love an interest in how Evelyn's So [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/308">TS</a>]

00:05:12   when I moved to Bristowe it was grassing are going to this balloon fiesta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/312">TS</a>]

00:05:16   and for the first couple of years I was here for some reason I just never went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19   but this time I finally went I went to the master sent to fight a battle civilian areas it was great it was really good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/319">TS</a>]

00:05:28   Are definitely beginning again. Yeah you're going to become a regular. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/328">TS</a>]

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00:05:36   and do things with hot air balloons. There is a lot of down time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   Yeah well I noticed the the footage on the video that you sent me is sped up in many places. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/339">TS</a>]

00:05:44   Yes billions are very slow and very very just gentle manatees of the air as it were there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/344">TS</a>]

00:05:53   Sailing along would you go in one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56   Now Never Now I get a creepy feeling in my feet just thinking about being in a hot air balloon over the Alps he feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/356">TS</a>]

00:06:03   surprisingly safe in them I found the walls of the basket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/363">TS</a>]

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00:06:12   events I went to with Janet was this balloon is called the cordon alone rice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/372">TS</a>]

00:06:18   and this is actually different balanced this is. They fill balloons up with harsh in this isn't how dare they. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/378">TS</a>]

00:06:24   Susan up with Hartigan and then they just all take off on our race and in this case they just all went across Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/384">TS</a>]

00:06:30   and who have a goes the furthest before they have to land. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/390">TS</a>]

00:06:34   Wins and obviously you can't top top up the heart each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   and you can only just let off white so that's how the races were P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   and It's almost a bit of a it's bit of a blinking contest if you know who's going to blink first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/400">TS</a>]

00:06:45   and I hope they'll just go for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   and Janet break a world record on one of them for so women balloonist her another woman broke the distance record for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/407">TS</a>]

00:06:54   women but on this particular When I went to A R I went and waited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/414">TS</a>]

00:06:58   and I watched them all a for it was an amazing sight I made a video and I'll put some links in the shyness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/418">TS</a>]

00:07:03   or people who who want to watch the race but on that particular race one of the balloons the went missing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/423">TS</a>]

00:07:12   and the people in it are they they go into a storm and couldn't get out and plunged into the ocean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/432">TS</a>]

00:07:18   It's it's it's not without risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   and rice everyone so I saying these famous videos of the ones that catch fire it's not good P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/441">TS</a>]

00:07:25   For balance but I think they're pretty safe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   I'm very surprised to hear you say that there are still balloons that use hydrogen because of course the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/447">TS</a>]

00:07:33   can think of is the hidden Burke I thought out didn't we stop with the hydrogen at that point this is quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/453">TS</a>]

00:07:38   specialized This isn't like touristy stuff this is a very special rice for the pros you know over a simple though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/458">TS</a>]

00:07:45   gigantic sack of hydrogen would want to be in a lightning storm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/465">TS</a>]

00:07:49   Flying one of those know it I think that's what happened to those people who died the other was Reserve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/469">TS</a>]

00:07:55   When they do balloons on air crash investigation to somebody right up whatever it is that the P C R B reports that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/475">TS</a>]

00:08:04   like so much I'm sure that I don't know I've never read a hot air balloon crash investigation report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/484">TS</a>]

00:08:09   but I'm sure the N.T.S.B. Does investigate them say yeah it's a V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/489">TS</a>]

00:08:13   Shape right someone has to write a report on Maginnis them I don't know for sure you've never seen a hot air balloon on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/493">TS</a>]

00:08:19   air crash investigators I don't believe I have one thing I did want to talk about from from all of this is it did occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/499">TS</a>]

00:08:26   to me while I was watching all these balloons taking off and two hundred thousand people watching. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/506">TS</a>]

00:08:31   Absolutely captivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   and I think probably ninety percent of them taking photos was vetted of us advertising billboard hot air balloons are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/512">TS</a>]

00:08:42   think they're a great way to advertise most of them I think are sponsored by companies smart able anus get some company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/522">TS</a>]

00:08:49   to pay for the balloon have their name on it and I've got a toy to play with for the next five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/529">TS</a>]

00:08:54   and the company's got a big flying advert for the next five years there I think they're wonderful wonderful adds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/534">TS</a>]

00:09:00   public relations. Machines hot air balloons because who does who doesn't love them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/540">TS</a>]

00:09:04   There's nothing but good will towards them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07   Everyone loves whether you're scared of going into my not everyone loves a hot air balloon that's exactly what I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/547">TS</a>]

00:09:12   before it is a one in the sky and it makes you smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/552">TS</a>]

00:09:15   and then you think of Bob's burger joint has also helped make that thing fly Exactly exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/555">TS</a>]

00:09:22   I mean it was a genius public relations move by the University of Nottingham to to give Janet the money for herbal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/562">TS</a>]

00:09:29   or because she traveled all around the world with a you know there wasn't lying over this for saps in fact on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/569">TS</a>]

00:09:34   first few days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   Flurry I took a photograph of it flying over the Swiss Alps just just with my normal Cameron I'm no one winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/575">TS</a>]

00:09:42   photographer but when you've got a hot air balloon and mountains you almost can't go wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/582">TS</a>]

00:09:47   I took me aside and thought nothing else nothing of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   and a couple of years later I was in the office of the the vice chancellor of the university [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/590">TS</a>]

00:09:55   and there's a huge framed picture of the balloon flying over the mountains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/595">TS</a>]

00:09:59   and I was in the waiting room waiting to meet him and I was like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   That's bloody My photo I don't know how it ended up with him I don't know he got I oversee gave it to the university to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/602">TS</a>]

00:10:10   to use and it got blown up to the sort of the size of a window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   and friends because they didn't didn't burst into his office and accuse him of copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/613">TS</a>]

00:10:18   and for your best action the University of Notre Dame a good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/618">TS</a>]

00:10:24   but it was quite it was quite amazing I'm sitting there looking at and I'm not that's my psych I might sing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/624">TS</a>]

00:10:30   but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31   but what that reason I make that I make the point is that it shows what wonderful public relations things out that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/631">TS</a>]

00:10:37   all the great things these big universities to the post of the how uni the thing they don't have up on the wall this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/637">TS</a>]

00:10:42   what I believe. Everyone loves going to play. Yes impressive and it's fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/642">TS</a>]

00:10:48   Other I wonder what the rates are for advertising on hot air balloons I mean I don't think they're interchangeable like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/648">TS</a>]

00:10:54   that I think you know the envoy like as it's called the balloon so if it is a pretty pair been thing I think you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/654">TS</a>]

00:11:00   chop and change the ads so I think it's it's a one off isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03   I mean one of the problems for how ever learns is that not clickable that's one of the weird things in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/663">TS</a>]

00:11:09   advertising is precisely these these brand moments so you can definitely say that the University of Nottingham for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/669">TS</a>]

00:11:18   example gets a lot of friendly P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   and A lot of recognition from people around the world from seeing the University of Nottingham on the balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/680">TS</a>]

00:11:27   but yes you can't you can't track it like we do with our advertisements where there is a code that the advertisers know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/687">TS</a>]

00:11:33   then exactly I go what's the return on investment for advertising on various things you never have any idea what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/693">TS</a>]

00:11:39   return on investment for advertising on a hot air balloon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/699">TS</a>]

00:11:43   or even just just regular old billboard advertising it's very hard to have any idea about how much is that worth in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/703">TS</a>]

00:11:52   terms of just a raw R O Y calculation I mean your rights it must be a nightmare and to measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/712">TS</a>]

00:11:59   but it's still a very real thing and a very important thing that happiness that people feel is real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/719">TS</a>]

00:12:04   but it is impossible to put a number on how much should we spend on hot air balloons this year it's not me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/724">TS</a>]

00:12:11   happiness that's a real value like it does convert into stuff I mean there's no better example than the videos I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/731">TS</a>]

00:12:17   with the University of Nottingham and I now go to the university as of city before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/737">TS</a>]

00:12:21   and I'll walk around there now because I've been doing this way too long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   Lots of people come up to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   and say oh you know you were that Brady got you know I go to this university because of those videos I watch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/745">TS</a>]

00:12:30   when I was SCO and I really love them and therefore I chose the University of Nottingham and you can measure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/750">TS</a>]

00:12:36   and the university probably doesn't know how many people are there for that reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/756">TS</a>]

00:12:40   or how many people are there because they want so the balloon and they're probably right we'll know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/760">TS</a>]

00:12:44   but it was still money well spent a time well spent say that has to be very strange for you to know that there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/764">TS</a>]

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00:12:59   relationship between you make videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/779">TS</a>]

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00:13:35   Yes and when they say where did you hear about us. You write down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/815">TS</a>]

00:13:39   Brady's video Brady Haran Brady hair I'd love a big Ghraib alone with H.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/819">TS</a>]

00:13:44   and The big doctor square on that how cool with that I think there would look really good on a balloon that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/824">TS</a>]

00:13:50   quite strike I wonder if Gray is like an illegal color for a balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   when you shouldn't use because it like midges into the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   and it becomes a hazard because I can't think of many great hot air balloons I've seen over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/835">TS</a>]

00:13:59   and I've seen quite a few. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   There might be a lower gets greater loads I wonder maybe maybe you could put blinking lights around it you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/841">TS</a>]

00:14:08   around that we don't have the docs could blink the hot air balloon you would have loved that was being tested at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/848">TS</a>]

00:14:13   particular Fiesta was a solar powered hot air balloon and basically it was all Pete was pretty much mostly black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/853">TS</a>]

00:14:22   and so could absorb all the hate to heat up the air to keep in the air. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/862">TS</a>]

00:14:26   Oh a cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   and you would have loved how it looked it was like a kind of at night just looked Co It looked it looked bad ass didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/867">TS</a>]

00:14:34   get a picture of it I didn't see it the day I was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   but I say it's a video of a savable that would take some pictures up to show people it was made by Cameron balloons up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/876">TS</a>]

00:14:42   with a few are doing a search for an you can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   when I'm typing now because they don't have my quick you work hard now I can tell that worry me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/885">TS</a>]

00:14:52   and you can still you can still tell picked her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   Oh OK I see this one I think this one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   or has it has the the stripe it's a symmetrical little bit black on one side white on the other it's cold looking it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/896">TS</a>]

00:15:03   very cool looking very cool looking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/903">TS</a>]

00:15:07   Interesting does have burners on board in case of you know the sun getting blocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/907">TS</a>]

00:15:11   and things by Laura has to have been as well to heat up if it has burners on board in case of clouds I certainly hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/911">TS</a>]

00:15:19   so even the world of hot air balloons has technological progress within it. Oh yeah definitely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/919">TS</a>]

00:15:26   Let's move on from whatever lines what we got in the follow up list here that we have a lot I think you wanted to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/926">TS</a>]

00:15:31   about how wrong I was on the Internet you were rooting for him to I mean surely you should know by the out you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/931">TS</a>]

00:15:36   never state something as effect on the progress because never will immediately go and look and if it is not a fact. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/936">TS</a>]

00:15:44   You're going to hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/944">TS</a>]

00:15:45   but I get this is this I thought was funny we're talking now about the neutral video that we mentioned offhandedly last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/945">TS</a>]

00:15:51   time and having the same number of thumbs up and thumbs down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   and this is an interesting experience because again my Twitter feed is filled with nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/954">TS</a>]

00:15:59   but pictures that are all the thumbnail of the that image of the guy in the future on the clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/959">TS</a>]

00:16:05   and then someone circling below at the number of thumbs up or thumbs down being slightly off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/965">TS</a>]

00:16:11   The thing that's interesting to me about this is I feel OK I make these You Tube videos that lots of people watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/971">TS</a>]

00:16:17   and I will have little errors in those videos and I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   when he's you know what a lesson about errors in my videos now than I do an offhanded remark which I'm clearly not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/980">TS</a>]

00:16:28   backing on the pod cast says I I was just speculating I believe that maybe this was hard coded into you do because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/988">TS</a>]

00:16:36   never seen it be different and a holy God have I heard from people about how it's different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/996">TS</a>]

00:16:40   So it does seem that your speculation is correct that it is community powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:45   and not hard coded which is impressive because there are many of these videos around You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:51   and it seems that almost all of them are within five or so always of being the same on the mess up and thumbs down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:59   Grey Nomads a diligent nerds are diligent The Probably a few people watching them with with O.C.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:06   Making sure to keep it even as much as possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   Yeah so another little piece of follow up with something Atia got to tell you about which was a nice little story let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:15   talk about ports for a second OK you having you're having a million about your airport you hate so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:21   Douglas I do love a good moan about an airport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   Yeah especially Dallas Daily I do love a good moan about Dulles is actually what you know if there are many nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:30   airports that I travel through about which I'd say nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   Welcome talk endlessly about the less which I hate I wonder if like the head of published it in public relations at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:38   Dulles Airport get stuck chills down their spine every time you have ever into its relation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:45   Yeah he has a Google Alert out that thirty hello internet Pigford mentions of Dulles to know if you need to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:50   into P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:51   Damage mode I don't even talk last time about the birds that were flying there is a Others too much to complain about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:58   Can't even mention everything that happens every time I go there in a committee meeting right now saying am I going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:03   pay this great gotta show up today there was a distro to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:07   but if you praying you're going to read this one dollars Airport I will not accept your advertising dollars dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:14   Airport was to give us money for a P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   Spot you would have to read that one I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19   and I'd charge them double you take that maybe he just wouldn't do the raid Yeah I think maybe that would even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:25   better let me tell you about an airport Well actually I have it is kind of a problem for the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:30   but it wasn't a problem for me and it became a wonderful experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:34   OK When I arrived at Marrakesh a few weeks back now will set the front of the plane so we got our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:42   and we got to the passport control fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:47   and there were lots of people standing around as there often are at these airports in exotic countries the culturally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:53   don't understand lots of people standing around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   None of them seem to be doing any work except for one guy who was stamping passports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1135">TS</a>]

00:19:02   and because we are at the front of the Kerry we quit straight three we were first ones very absolute berries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:09   and I think behind us there must have been some family of eighteen people who all want to carry through together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:15   and half of them didn't have their passports or something because whatever happened with the we went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:20   and then there was a long long long time before anyone else was going to get three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:25   and I was waiting at the luggage carousel with my wife and all the bags started coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:30   and obviously there was no I want to take them we were the only people in the bank it show we were the only people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:35   place was completely empty it was amazing was huge huge area just two of us the carousel fill it up with all the bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:43   with all the bags it could it could take right and because it was no one to take them away that was it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:49   So so they couldn't put anymore bags on the carousel so we were just standing there watching the same bags going past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:56   not Abbott's thinking well we're going to be stuck in now until everyone else gets three possible control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1196">TS</a>]

00:20:01   and create some more room on the carousel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:04   and it was do no one through fifteen twenty minutes not a single cell that come through OK this is getting suspicious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:10   Yeah it was a bit so anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   I was I mean how big was this plane how far ahead where you it wasn't it was just an it was an easy chip line everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:19   was in the queue the next people behind us were standing right behind us every woman standing behind us there was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:24   guess I guess what I'm trying to figure out is where you want to plain with nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   but the sketchiest looking people all of whom need interviews through customs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:32   when they are I like how on earth can you be the only people I don't know I don't know it right up to a promise I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:36   telling you the tree so it got to the point where I was edging closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:40   and closer to the little how they were all the bags come out that leads to the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:45   and I started like taking my head through to see if there were other bags waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:50   and around the same time this this Moroccan man picked his head through to see what was going on a wire. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:54   None of the bags were were moving there we kind of men are eyes and and he looked into the hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1254">TS</a>]

00:21:01   and saw that I was the only person there and he straight away I knew what the problem was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:05   and I said I'm trying to get my bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   and I could see all these trolleys parked on the tarmac outside with all these bags on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:13   and he said which one which one is yours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   So I ended up sort of pointed and he walked over to the trolley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:20   and I was not hanging my head through the through the hole over the conveyor belts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:24   and see that black white under those two red ones to the right of that blue one and he's this one here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:29   and I'm a year and he pulled that one and then I found my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   and said here that want that second one up on the other trolley No no no not that one that one now I know below that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:37   what this one yes and he sort of pulled it out like a like a gentler pace and all the other begs came toppling down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:43   and he got so he got two bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   and then he physically pass them through the How To Be Like handed them to be hand to hand it was a brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:51   and they were still a service it was rarely if ever so I slipped into the money I tipped him as like thanks man you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:57   saved me a lot of pain and and then we went off through and got cab got a car that was waiting for us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:04   Still no to come very So I would have been there forever waiting for those other people if it wasn't for that nice man. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:09   America's airports. Spend those two dollars wisely my friend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:15   That's all ahead on me I need to tell of them if they're guilty but it was all had in my pocket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:19   They guy America ship thumbs up thumbs up for their valley luggage service some stab for their passport control if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:26   know the first two people in the line I'm very glad that your bags came through in that you have this nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:31   valley experience that's nice and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   but my mind just keep focusing on hair were all the other people that's a part of the story that I keep wanting to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:39   back to this feels like a mystery. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   Yeah to you don't you don't think about who's behind you cry you crack on you walk faster that passport control you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:49   hope right there is nothing but a bunch of children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   and slow old ladies in front of you that you can stride on by fast as possible without actually breaking into a run so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:58   you look like a jerk if I go in August walking fast trying to get past everybody because if you're at the if you're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:03   the back of those big passport lines forget it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:07   Deter look I'm white that is a terrible time to say all that me just go to the bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:11   and then you're behind six hundred people. The toilet is not an option. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   This does just remind me that I made a little note about something on my last flight where I wanted to tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:22   you were correct about something like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   Wow Brady is correct about something Kona we had a disagreement a while back about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:33   or not the self checkout machines in the grocery stores are faster or not remember this. Yes Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:42   Don't get excited because I'm not going to tell you that you're right there you're totally wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   OK However I'm pretty sure I made some broad sweeping statement about how I using the machines are always faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:53   Let me tell you I ran into a machine while traveling were all I could think of was I was just shaking my little fist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1433">TS</a>]

00:24:00   thinking Brady is right this machine is terrible and it was at Dulles Airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:05   and I was going through customs the United States has the equivalent of the grocery checkout machines for going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:14   you. U.S. Customs if you are a U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:17   Citizen is this customs or passport control immigration I mean where they're checking your passport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:22   and seeing if they're going to let you into the country where you know that have that most U.K. Upwards now as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26   Here's the details about these machines. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   Yeah I've never seen them before and I walk up and I go oh OK well I'm sure this is going to be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:34   and ice little automated machine it's certainly going to speed up the line No it's not going to speed up the line I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:41   have never seen a machine designed like this but you are required to scan your passport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:47   and I was standing there watching everybody else trying to scan their passport and I'm trying to scan my passport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:52   and the little machine goes just be tricky is buzzing at me saying it's not scanning the passport correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:58   and I'm looking around and I see maybe the twenty other people who are also using these machines. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:03   Everybody is having a hard time scanning these little passports Yeah something what's going on I was determined I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:09   going to figure out this machine I'm not going to ask the nice lady for help I'm going to figure this out the design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:16   this passport scan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17   or was that you have to hold your passports stick it in this little tunnel basically for the scanner you have to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:26   your hand all the way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27   and inside the tunnel where you cannot see your hand much like those secret voting boxes that we were talking about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:35   our special episode inside there there's a little lever that you have to reach for with your hand that you can't see to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:43   pull down and it pulls down some scanner on top of your passport but you have to do it physically with your hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:51   Otherwise the machine will not scan the passport I care that is a little bit more is where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:57   and I thought this is the craziest self automated machine I have ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:04   and it did work I pulled down the little lever so that it eventually scanned my passport it puts everything up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:11   screen and I confirm Oh yes this is me here the reason that I'm coming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14   And blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   and of course because the United States the machine also takes a little picture of you because I'm sure it's going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:21   a gigantic database somewhere you know who knows where but somewhere they know that goes into this database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:28   and so this machine was just taking everybody a really long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   but I figured OK It least I figured it out I can make it happen really fast the next time next time I use it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:37   great but know it gives you the little ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   and then you just get in the line totally is normal then you still have to talk to the regular guy who asks you all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:46   regular questions you just show him that you did the little auto scan of your receipt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:50   but he also scans your passport it was just again an astounding example of this like bizarre airports inefficiency is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1610">TS</a>]

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00:27:38   you just said with all these new levels in that and never reasonably simple to use I I can use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1658">TS</a>]

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00:28:10   Customs was I have already scanned my passport earlier at the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:14   Airport at a different machine which didn't have this mechanism I have scanned my passport at many airports that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:20   have this mechanism and almost everybody who's on this plane with me has certainly done the same thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1700">TS</a>]

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00:28:34   that plane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   Scanned their passport in one way when they were getting their tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:40   and now you introduce this new more complicated thing at the end of the flight that they have to scan it was like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:47   whoever made these machines by the scanners that were made by that other company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:52   and then it will be at least be consistent you give people a fighting chance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:56   Might cost a hundred bucks more per machine those things it may be but I was looking at those machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1736">TS</a>]

00:29:01   and I'm looking at everybody's struggling through them and I thought there is no way this is clearing the line faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:08   My suspicion is that the whole purpose of that machine is actually the part where it takes your photo I thought this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:14   why they're doing this is to build some gigantic database it's not at all about making the line any faster I take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1754">TS</a>]

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00:29:22   Line as well but you have to look at it a little camera and I take a picture they have never done that if you are a U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:29   Citizen so it used to always be well we only take pictures of dirty foreigners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:35   but now it's all we also take pictures of dirty Americans trust nobody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1775">TS</a>]

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00:31:13   cast in the world that has official flagships but they're not official flags are there no official flagship space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:18   and nothing official about them their unofficial flagships there like mascots that mascot ships how Internet of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:26   I'm talking about. Anthem of the say he's currently sailing off the coast of Spain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1886">TS</a>]

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00:31:48   and didn't have a look at it probably not new in America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   Stone Anyway it's traveling at twenty knots I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1911">TS</a>]

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00:32:01   than of the Baron are tying knots and rights and Siling and stuff but I think it's coaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:05   and knots sir for once at some of the faces actually sailing and not sitting in a pause. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1925">TS</a>]

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00:32:59   be less stuff is MY Let's let's say on the move I want to pull the horn Yes yes I want to see the engine room I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:08   talk about huge propellers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1988">TS</a>]

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00:33:16   warhead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/1996">TS</a>]

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00:34:00   taking a little break thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2040">TS</a>]

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00:35:12   It has moved on there have been a few articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   and I think the reason why you're describing it this way in that the word has moved on is that we have for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:22   time seen people use the word freebooting without making any reference to Brady Herrin and C.P.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:30   Gray as the creators of those words. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:34   Yeah which which is far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   but in addition to that it has sort of also gone into some bigger bigger reign as now I mean we saw we saw Hank grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:47   user in his excellent article that he recently wrote about that favorite thing we've seen on the baby see website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:56   saying places like Slate and it's and it's just being used as the normal word now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2156">TS</a>]

00:36:02   and the days of us getting excited going your Look that's a little victory for us they're over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:08   but also I think it's really important to really quickly point out that while we will always joke around about the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:14   and its and its humble origins here and hello internet free trading itself is very serious issue. Do not agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2174">TS</a>]

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00:36:28   voice Brady was a bit hard to who specialize in yeah that's exactly right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:33   Ever we've all had fun this afternoon by the drug addiction is a serious problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:39   Like is it because the way you're saying it even though it is a serious problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:43   Certainly doesn't sound like there was a funny story in a picture that came from Destin in Alabama I think away Cotto a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:50   guy he's obviously been a real campaign around this issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53   and he has also been one of the real trial places using the term for evading and his local T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:59   Station in Alabama I think I have actually spoken to him about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:03   but this is what I've sort of sketch together from various text messages we've shared I think his local T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:09   Station decided to do a story about free voting in Facebook favorite NG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:14   and I guess they were taking the parochial angle of you know local guy makes good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:18   and laid to the charge sort of thing you know. Local Alabama man and you cheap stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:24   Campaigns against the mighty say spoke so I think they did an interview with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:28   and spoke to him about it I haven't actually seen the report yet but what happened was they then said to him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:35   Destine Can we please use some of the footage from your free version video to kind of illustrate our report. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:42   You know examples of the stuff that was for a dated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2262">TS</a>]

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00:37:51   and Sherry shown example of so of course distance said Yes you know in that go ahead you can use my footage so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:58   what they did they went into destines video about freebooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:03   and the one clip they took at to use with the clip that he borrowed for me of orgy playing with bubbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:10   and they put they put that into their report and had that like Mark to You Tube dot com slash matter every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2290">TS</a>]

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00:38:23   Desson of course did have permission to that but with what age but I don't know about Alabama. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:28   Television stations I don't think permission is a transitive property destine thought it was hilarious set me if I die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:35   of the from the reports I have a look at this it is pretty funny about that you touched upon the reason why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:41   this word has now come into its own is that while you know it has left our house of hello internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:50   and it has gone in many ways to the house of Facebook to cause a lot of problems because that's where I see it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:58   being used in in context is talking about the changes that are happening at Facebook as Facebook is clearly making some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:07   moves into the video world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:10   but that's where the word is always being used about how Facebook is making money off of other people's content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:16   and not sharing back the revenue and intentionally dragging their feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:20   and so I this is where I have seen it being used as describing this as Facebook freebooting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:26   Almost all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:27   and that was partly the topic of of Hanks' article yacking about how Facebook is doing things like inflating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:35   numbers of views on their videos by huge orders of magnitude if a video appears anywhere on someone's Facebook feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:44   even if they don't look at it itself a Facebook counts that as of as a view of a snake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:49   and started playing before you have time to react. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   Yeah they started they started playing immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   and I owe you watch this for a tenth of a second before you hit pause that totally counts as a view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2394">TS</a>]

00:40:00   and that's part of the reason why the view numbers on Facebook are just astronomical he sees the numbers just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:06   tens of millions or billions or trillions You know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   when it like there's not enough humans on Earth to have caused all these views was like oh no it totally counts all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:14   Facebook's little little tricks are kind of a little story right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:19   and that's where we also see the word freebooting come into play because it's a nice alliteration it is Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:25   favored NG is an oscillator I shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   and I can't even tax credit for that I think destine start at that with these videos allowed to acquit them serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:32   thing then before we continue with our various bits a follow up to causing the tone you have favored because all I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:37   had a little interesting interaction over the last couple of days so I thought I'd tell Well I'll tell you about I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:42   told you about it yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43   News and those people listening to how they would set can a stripe because that's pretty much how this works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:49   Yep now there is a this all relates to a Twitter account a twist of fate at this stage I don't I do NOT going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:57   what it is because I want to give him free publicist a part right because also I don't want to sort of the lynch mob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:04   or judge and jury over an individual you know you know how I feel about that so I don't want to be too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:10   Myself after the last episode resave don't like lynch mobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   It would not seem great if you were at the head of a lynch mob today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   Exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   but there is this Twitter account which I came across this week actually just set the Twitter handle to you not twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:24   minutes ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   How would you explain this to Twitter accounts to paypal just scrolling through and looking at it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:32   and this is an account that tweets gifts and they're tweeting. Gifts mainly from science or science the related videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:43   Yeah and as I'm scrolling through. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:47   I mean it's just an endless list of stuff they didn't make much of which is actually water marked with the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:54   creators sometimes yeah I want one of the videos I'm looking at right now is a gif [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:59   and it is clearly cropped very awkwardly So this is one that that someone decided they could take out the water mark. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:05   Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   but it is it is basically a freebooting type of account because they're taking the best parts from various science videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:13   from various creators and tweeting it's without any link back to the author even at a bare minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:21   and even if they were doing that I wouldn't condone it but I certainly not doing that either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24   People on the internet always go isn't it OK if someone just credits you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27   and the answer is No it's not credit doesn't make it OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:31   but they're not even doing that that the barest of bare minimums of saying oh this comes from a video with whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:38   they're just saying look at this cool explosion look at this cool science experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:42   and all the gifts are again like the prime five seconds of a whole lot of science videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:48   Exactly I think this is like the online video equivalent of one of those rooms they have a police station just full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:54   stolen property. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:54   Infringe property full of infringed properties it's it's a free polluting Fiesta Yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2574">TS</a>]

00:43:00   and there are lots of Twitter accounts like you know this is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   and we talk about free version being a big problem on Facebook and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:07   and I think that's the most important place at the moment and it's a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   Nice to be whether the battle line is drawn but I think the sort of gee if gift free boating is OSA really big issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:17   and perhaps once Facebook saw there has set up this is the next place where this battle needs to be for the Sony Well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:23   was going through this to to fade and then there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26   and there still are lots of clips from my videos in there now I am far from the handy victim as we speak now you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:34   Derek numerous times and other videos from people I know I saw one there by the physics go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:39   and I'm sure destiny must be on there as well as his video to say good for that sort of thing this is one of the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:45   of free voting where I feel like you're a bit lucky and because as a G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:49   Gray video doesn't really make sense if you haven't got the home video you don't normally have a golden bullet that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:54   be stolen from your video but I do have the problem where someone takes all of the slides from my video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2634">TS</a>]

00:44:00   and writes an article with a little caption below each of the it becomes like a like a Power Point almost it'll turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:06   into one of those crap slide shows where they try to get twenty clicks out of you. I.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:11   I can understand why it happens but the gift freebooting is huge where I see it for example is on Reddit Yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:18   and I cannot believe the number of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   when a gif of a video makes it to the front page where even linking to the video would be a vastly more enjoy it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:29   experience than linking to the gifts I find it very surprising but there's something about a gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:35   and they're looping this that seems to really really catch people's minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:40   and encouraged credibility even in situations where a gift seems like the worst possible way to show whatever it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:49   want to show I find it very very surprising how how fast and how far just the worst gifts can spread. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:57   Yeah so I went to a couple of the the gifts here on the six out that way for my videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:05   and I kind of was just lying in bed so I actually had to decide on have a look at what the press. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:09   This is for making a copyright report on Twitter because I've never done it before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   Oh yeah I never had to do it either interesting Yes So anyway I went through the process it wasn't too bad it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:20   all these copyright processes they put quite a few hurdles in your way and they make you work for the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:26   but I did it for two of these gifts that I've found I I reported them that been on the Twitter feed for quite a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:33   they've been rate waited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34   and favorite in the thousands of times so they had paid I had gone everywhere you know that day was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:41   but I reported them just out of out of the public as I wanted to say the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:47   and reasonably quickly I got an email back from Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:51   Sang we've removed the I then scroll down the tree to fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:55   and found a bunch more of mana thought gosh how many of these two I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   but before I got to any of that I received an email from the person who runs the Twitter account. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:04   Hey Brady are so you filed a copyright climb for one of my GIF images I've shared I've removed both of the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:10   Well actually I think Twitter moves into maybe here maybe the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:14   and then he said do you think it's possible to remove the copyright claim from my account. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:20   Yeah I've had this thing on and then he helpfully said and he's there more content you want removed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:25   I will gladly tell you say so I didn't reply to that because like you said we get that kind of thing a bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:33   Let me interject something here which is just that the listener understands the reason it sounds like Twitter has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:39   similar is system to youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   and the reason he wants you to remove your copyright complaint is it leaves the way it works on You Tube is that if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:50   You Tube channel has I think it's three simultaneous outstanding copyright complaint against it that channel the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:59   thing will just get taken down so there's a cumulative punishment for repeatedly infringing copyright on You Tube which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:07   is a channel banned if it happens enough but if. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   You convince the person who filed the claim against you to remove it you just basically have another free shot at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:16   infringement every single time I ever file a copyright complaint against anybody I hear back from them saying Oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:22   took it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   and please remove the complaint which as far as I'm concerned is just a request like please allow us to continue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:29   Infringing copyright in the future that the only way to interpret that message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:33   but then I got an even longer e-mail ready Heron I am the owner of Twitter dot com slash the name of this account which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:40   is a page of beer as a hobby. From finding and sharing science related. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44   GIF images from all over the internet I do not profit from the tweets I simply do it for fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:50   Let me stop there can I just say this Twitter Cam has approaching nine hundred thousand followers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:57   and if you think building a following of nine hundred thousand people on Twitter is not a form of profit profit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:03   have made with this material which I think a lot of you shouldn't have I think to defend on the whole prophet thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:09   and then the final sentences would you mind taking down the notice the hits and I wanted to withdraw my my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:16   and also said I thought this was unbelievably cheeky and also Would you send the clips you would like me to upload. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:21   Anyway I did rip I did reply at this point I believe I was polite and respectful and I wish them success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:28   but I also made my position clear about what I thought was not right about what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:32   and I got another really long reply I won't read it all but I'll try and find a couple highlights here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:37   Brady I'm sorry you feel this way I've been going through all the content trying to remove anything that seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:41   affect your you chip general than I thought it was more of a free promotion as if someone wanted to watch the full clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:47   they would search online and find your video I'll stop here again for just a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:52   That's a crazy claim because lives virtually no identification of what what the clip is a where it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:58   and you would have to you have to have very good google fu to go from these animated gifs to find my video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:03   but that's by the by. People don't do that anyway. Once I've seen the money shot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:07   Why would they do that anyway I never apply. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:10   The actual video only ever afford a five second gif and no sound and I mostly find my content from read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:16   or nine gag which is why I was unaware so they're saying I don't even know where it came from I just took it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:22   somewhere else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:23   Ferrari other people watch the video but I don't even know where it's from science gives a very popular on Reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:30   and usually if you look at the tweets someone post the video so does to traffic to your videos also I thought I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:37   within fair use Polish policy as I'm sharing for knowledge purposes only I also still state in the Twitter bio that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:44   do not own the content. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   Cover right not injured and I think I think this battle the laws their true knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:51   and also has also in the Twitter by and there is and and there was a removal request I have my email in the by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:58   and I always remove So I mean he's basically saying I put the mail there because I'm always getting complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:04   and told to remove stuff he says hopefully we can resolve this I'd be happy to work with you in the future are feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:11   like someone has come into my house and taken a whole bunch of my things like my T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:16   and My sorry for my computer I know you do I know you think it's different because the let's let's let's cysto I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:23   like a film or taken my T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   I'm a safer in my computer in my fridge no they things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   and so I've I've suffered I have suffered even unknowingly in this case but I've suffered for a little R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:36   and Then I have found out where my T.V. In cipher is and I said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:42   Boy how I want to back and this person who said look he's you know he's a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:48   and You Saif and I know I know you've kind of done without and I've benefited from having it for the last few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:53   but I've given up back can you not press charges because I don't want the police on to make because if the police are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:59   on to me I won't be able to go and steal everyone else's T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   Encipher can you can you not press charges so the police went prosecute me on by the way I've still got your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:09   in your fridge but if you if you want them back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:13   I'll give them to start stop me from taking other people's stuff is crazy. I'm displaced. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:19   Your analogy is terribly tangled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   but we will draw from at the value that is within it because in this analogy if we were continuing it further other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:28   people would be coming to his house and watching stuff on your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:32   and He would be asking if it's OK for him to continue using the T.V. As long as he tells everybody that it's your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:39   Without work well in this analogy marry you that makes sense or improving the analogy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:44   Good for her his this falling down into a mess of that a new to Latino a lot of other alike A Different know even what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:51   that even the heart of the terrible the one point that jumped out to me on this which is a conversation that I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:58   happen over and over again on Reddit and I stay out of it because it's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:03   but I just want to put on the record here is someone will link to say a free booted material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:09   or the link to a gift for the link to some subsection of someone's content. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:15   And because Reddit is usually pretty good about someone knows where this thing is from the top comment will almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:22   always be over this source is this thing right so if you click on the discussion you'll see right away at the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:30   Here's where it comes from now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   As as someone who has had many things on Reddit I've even gotten things on the front page of read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:39   and has also been someone who had infringed off get very high on Reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:44   and then I see the top comments as though the source of this is originally see G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47   Greg I actually have a bunch of data about what the difference is between those two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:54   and everybody seems to think that oh this source comment makes it all OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:58   but it can be a difference of two orders of magnitude how many people click on the link on Reddit to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:06   infringed thing versus how many people click on that comment that says oh the original source is from here think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:14   by no means making up for it or making it OK and I just see people say like oh isn't it isn't it free promotion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:23   Aren't you happy to get this promotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   and I always feel like if the people making the things are don't want this kind of promotion it should be pretty clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:32   to everybody in the discussion that no it's not the kind of promotion that people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:37   or it is not as helpful as people think it is but I just see this argument over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:41   and over again where people say oh anybody using your material is just great promotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:46   and I even get tweet sometimes people say oh I saw your video on some news channel in some foreign country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:51   and you know isn't that great promotion for you and it's always like news to me that is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:57   and no it's not any kind of great promotion almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:01   and I would never agree to it if they ask me ahead of time which is precisely why they don't so it's just further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:08   discussions in the frustrations of online creators when this exchange first started it did cross my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:14   Mind that maybe I was I was going to be dealing with a kid to retain nature because you know kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:19   and teenagers can get lucky and have or some Lee followed Twitter accounts as well and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:24   and there were points during this exchange where I was stunned by the naive it eating displayed that I thought maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:32   was a child I mean reading back I think it is an adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/3272">TS</a>]

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01:33:09   Not on us maybe I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5589">TS</a>]

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01:33:19   you have several of them up I did enjoy this book this seems like a Brady enjoyable book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5599">TS</a>]

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01:34:21   and we must be cheerleaders because we share everything science and I find that a bit frustrating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5661">TS</a>]

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01:36:59   and then another person has a a made up series of nonsense words about how they're going to fix whatever the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:09   and I just always feels like Can we just move past this I Why does this always have to be the plot point of made up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:16   problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:17   Made up solution neither of which matters it just matters that the thing got fixed such I remember thinking that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:24   fair in the book are I do remember getting fatigued by the take by the number of things that break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:30   and then get fixed is to be like OK here we go again but I never never member thinking was that would never happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:37   and that solution same such style I saw well that probably would happen among us and that probably is a Y. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:42   You could fix it so while I found found that sound a bit repetitive in that sense I don't remember thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:49   technobabble This is why I think people would think that I like it because they're plausible solutions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:56   He's actually talking about actual things so have I have a little segment here that's highlighted as a as a passage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5876">TS</a>]

01:38:02   from the book where he says I need to ration my E.V.A.'s as well as food. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:07   The C O two filters are not clean a bill once they're saturated there done the mission accounted for a four hour Evie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:13   perk crew per member per day. Fortunately C O two filters are light and small. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:18   All told I have about fifteen hundred hours of C O two filters after that and then he just like he goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:24   and on with this description about all of the equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:26   and I just I just kind of fresh I find it kind of frustrating because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:31   It's almost like it's written as though it's a real story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34   but I can't get past the fact that everything in it is made up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:38   Right that the author has is providing the character with a certain number of air filter that he's going to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:44   get through or like the descriptions of machines that have to be connected. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:49   Pink sickly Apollo thirteen Style right of oh we have this square peg to fit in this round hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:54   but I'm just constantly aware of the author as creator of problems for which the character Mark is going to give me far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5934">TS</a>]

01:39:03   too detailed descriptions of how to fix them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:07   and I just found it really really tedious in the first seven chapters I can sometimes sort of talking to that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:14   but from a slightly different than the last so again my memory's not as good as your post because I was alone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:19   ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:19   but I thought the problem there was more a case of the also was trying to to justify everything he was trying to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:28   that he'd done the math to to show that this is what would happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:32   It's a bit like OK you don't need to you don't need to prove to me that yeah that he has this many faces for this race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:38   and because the sin that is what would have happened if that disaster hadn't struck it was a bit all rot I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:43   and Sarah you know you've done your homework I know you've done your homework it doesn't mean you have to shave me oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:48   you're working out exactly I just read I'm randomly flipping through the book on my page on my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:54   and I just started another sentence to be viable soil needs forty liters of water per cubic meter my overall plan calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/5994">TS</a>]

01:40:00   for nine point two cubic metres of soils all eventually need three hundred sixty eight leaders of ones like God damnit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:06   do it like I don't need all of this it is just too much and I'm flipping through pages and the number of pain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:15   OK two pages over right to says like several paragraphs after the thing that I just read you in sixty two square meters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:22   I could grow maybe a hundred fifty kilograms of potatoes in four hundred days that's a grand total of one thousand one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:28   hundred fifty calories a sustainable average of two hundred thirty it's like it just flip flip flip I flip over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:33   next page OK there's numbers all over that page I flip over to the next page there's numbers on this page flip over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:39   there's no numbers on this page finally Oh no there is there's a number of hundred six in the middle of flipping over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:44   again there are at least twenty numbers on this page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:48   and it's just for ever I almost I almost don't know why I like I made it through this first section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:56   but I was that whatever it was chapter six and I said I said to myself in my head. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6056">TS</a>]

01:41:02   If the next chapter is like this I'm just going to stop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:05   Like I'm not going to go any further because I cannot stand this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:09   and perhaps unfortunate for me again not like I didn't like the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:13   but I could have done something better with my time on the flight the very next chapter is where it finally switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:19   perspective and it goes to NASA headquarters and them trying to figure out what has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:25   and so I thought OK book I'm going to give us I'm going to give you a little bit more time because maybe you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:31   wanted to establish all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33   but for me it was it was just it was unfortunate because there was just enough of the other stuff that I ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:40   feeling like I'm going to keep finishing this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:42   but all things told I would rather have read a different book than this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:47   but yeah I just found almost all of the sections where Mark is talking about his solutions to the problems just way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:55   over tedious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:56   and I think you're right it's like someone who's very very eager to show you all of their work that actually actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6116">TS</a>]

01:42:03   reminds me of back when I was in college I had a job doing research for one of the professors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:09   and for various reasons at some point we went to Washington D.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:13   Where we had to present to some Congress people what what our research projects were and what we were working on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:19   And I'll never forget that the professor told me before we went into some of these meetings he wanted to impress the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:25   fact of your day may be filled with all of the details of what you're working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:33   and that's what's on the top of your mind but when you're talking to somebody else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:37   Don't tell the Congress person about the details that seem important to you you have to think about what he might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:45   interested what are the practical results of this research you know or why the funding should continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:51   but you don't want to talk about how hard it is to do all of this research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:56   and the complicated data analysis spreadsheet you had to use for high energy frequency plasmas this does feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6176">TS</a>]

01:43:03   just too much like there's a way to move the story forward without having all of the details he showed he showed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:10   too much detail of how the sausage is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:12   and it put you off the sausage if this was a book about a real event that had occurred I may find those details much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:18   more interesting but but again it's just like it's just the fabricated nature of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:24   and I have I have a note here where I wrote made up solutions to made up problems and then him brackets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:30   Obviously that's every book you know this just this just bothered me for some reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:36   I can't quite put my finger on on why but it just it really did it really did bother me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6216">TS</a>]

01:43:41   and I found a good I found it rather rather tedious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:44   Was there anything redeeming about the book the oh I have more things to complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:48   but I was going to ask if there were other things you like about the book what do I like about of a you know what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:53   you like about the book that I do like the nest out of Jack de like SPOILER ALERT algea I do like that they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6233">TS</a>]

01:44:02   previous historic NASA missions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:05   and equipment that has landed on the planet nearby to save the yeah that I have to say that was the best part that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:12   absolutely the best part I thought that yeah he uses he uses one of the previous crashed missions on the General's act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:19   maybe it was so generally don't member exactly but I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:22   when that development happened in the book I thought Oh that's very clever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:25   That's a good way to do things so I like to that but I think the biggest strength of the book from memory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:33   Is and perhaps don't think this way about us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:36   and I think it's the likability of the main character I don't know if it was skill or luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:43   but I think the way that Mark what made the main character was written. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:47   Appeared to me a lot to him a lot but he was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:51   and had a sense of humor I found him funny like because at this obviously the first part of the book is him writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:57   journal like he's keeping like a a log isn't a sort of that people will probably find after he's died he suspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6297">TS</a>]

01:45:05   but he keeps a journal and I think his purse I think the personality of this main character I really liked him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:12   and I liked that he was at a little bit of a rebel strict to authority Three him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:16   and I think he is what made me care the reason I cared about the book is because I liked him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:21   and I cared about what happened to him I felt I felt a relationship with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:25   and I actually thought whenever they went back to NASA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28   or they went back to the other spacecraft that's heading back to Earth the people that have left him behind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:33   I found all of that completely boring because there were no characters there I cared about there was no on a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:40   and I thought that was all quite the factory and was very believable to me it is felt like or any old book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:46   but are so Mark what needs a character I liked him I thought it was Cohen to be friend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:53   He's smart and he's funny he's joking around but he's resourceful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:58   and there are always problems with the way things are written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:00   and there's all that tedious detail to get through about litres of water and spreading. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:06   But a lot to the guy and I wanted him to somehow get get out of this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:11   and that's what kept me going I couldn't I just want to know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14   or not my night was going to get out of I'm not of course on the reverse here where I found the sections where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:22   switch the narrative to NASA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:23   and everybody running the mission as like a as a relief in the book I thought oh boy I want to find out if this team of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:30   people can pull off this mission of what are they going to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:33   Which again is kind of ridiculous because that is also a made up problem that they're coming up with made up solutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:38   for but I found that the details whenever they were talking about the NASA section were at a more appropriate level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:45   and I enjoyed those sections much better know that there's a daytime may be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:50   but I thought the people walk on even remember any of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:52   Carnivorous I can remember the captain of the ship I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:55   but I can't remember any of the other characters I would completely just went by me like the land nobody's Yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6415">TS</a>]

01:47:03   but I have a note here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05   Laughing out when you were describing your like of the main character because I wrote Does anyone find this funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:13   Question mark question mark because this this was my other main main bullet point which is do you read any Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:20   books well I'm listening to what at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:25   but I haven't read a lot of red to us right maybe a yeah yeah I know you're listening to the J.F.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:30   One [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:30   but you haven't you haven't read a bunch of his books not definitely know a bunch of crap a thing that I kept thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:34   when I was reading this is there's a certain kind of humor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:38   Which I find in books which I felt that this character Mark what me had which to me just seems like saying silly things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:49   and I find no humor in this at all and I like Stephen King quite a lot but one thing that really irritates me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:58   when I read lots of his books is when he wants to have a funny character. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:03   It read the exact same way as the Mark Wotte me character in this book reads of Stephen King will have a character say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:10   a silly thing and it just it does not register with me at all it does not move the humor needle at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:18   and I just find it an extraordinarily grading person how they so all of the sections where he's making jokes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:26   Is none of that registers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:29   and I would be the annoyed guy at NASA can we move along here you know we were we have something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6509">TS</a>]

01:48:35   and great I think that's if you know I mean I mean you're here I'm a NATO is is not always the easiest thing to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:42   anyway there's lots of written stuff that I find funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6522">TS</a>]

01:48:46   but this just seemed another incarnation of this same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:51   when an author wants to make a character funny I feel like the characters are always funny in the same way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:57   Where they're really just silly or wacky and I highlighted this was almost at the very end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6537">TS</a>]

01:49:03   but I highlighted the one passage that really put me over the edge in terms of this kind of joke. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:08   Yeah like NASA is asking him if he needs anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:11   and he says if I could have anything it would be a radio to ask NASA for a safe path. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6551">TS</a>]

01:49:17   Around the ramp Well if I could have anything it would be a green skinned beautiful queen of Mars to rescue me so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6557">TS</a>]

01:49:24   can learn more about this earth thing called love making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:28   and I just feel like it's not funny it's just silly it's just that one was just like it's as a groaned out loud I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6568">TS</a>]

01:49:36   on the airplane I can't remember that one of the way you read it certainly is certainly didn't make me for not giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:42   him any favors the with the with the way I'm reading that kind of gallows humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:46   and I imagine I would be like that confronted with that situation I would have that kind of gallows humor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:51   He knew where the weather with it I mean he was definitely corny he was differently like making data Corning is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:58   way to the but but that was his personality and when he started having email contact or text contact back with NASA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:06   and he starts making like silly silly jokes to me and I tell him to be serious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:11   Well I met just what his luck he's like he's a corny dude and he's Columbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:16   but that that is a personality trait I know cornball corny people and some of the movements and a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:23   and I would not describe them as like comedy geniuses but I like them and that cornball corny jokes nature to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6623">TS</a>]

01:50:31   and that gallows humor he keeps using isn't the only part of his personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6631">TS</a>]

01:50:36   but he just seems like a real character to me and women of the with the at last a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:41   or don't like a character if a character seems real I find that quite compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:46   and I feel for whatever reason I remember thinking when I was reading a lot what needs seems like a real guy to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6646">TS</a>]

01:50:53   He I don't know I just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:57   I did kind of like him but also importantly I believed I believed he was real and therefore I wanted him to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6657">TS</a>]

01:51:03   and all those NASA paper which is cardboard cutouts sitting sitting sitting at computers and analyzing data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:09   and sinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6669">TS</a>]

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01:51:24   are currently in space. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:26   Aside from the captain I kept being aware of I don't know how many other people are on the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:31   and our just I'm confused with the dialogue because yes there was there were no distinct characters there whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:38   and I think oh I like the NASA sections better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:40   but casting my mind back I have his vague recollections of there's a director and there's like a pushy P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:48   Person and there's the hard working woman who get he made the breakthrough yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:55   but it's very it's very hard to to come up with anything in particular but you're totally right with the corny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6715">TS</a>]

01:52:01   and this is just a a personality difference because you mentioned for example dad humor and I have always thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:07   but what is it that happens to men where it seems like once they have a child. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6727">TS</a>]

01:52:14   There's some chemical shift in their brain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:17   We're now puns are the height of humour and I've just I've never found a pun funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6737">TS</a>]

01:52:24   but I have definitely seen men all of a sudden after having a baby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6744">TS</a>]

01:52:30   Shift into this bizarre dad humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:33   and I really think some kind of biological shift I wonder if I were to have a baby would I suddenly think that puns are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:40   punny right because they're not a bit as just that kind of stuff drives me crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:45   and he has this sort of humor was along those lines so is why I would be much much more resistant to it that I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:53   big I'm not a big fan of that stuff but side bar is there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6773">TS</a>]

01:52:56   A biological change in men when they have children about the humor they like I demand answers. Someone's Ph D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6776">TS</a>]

01:53:03   In neuroscience. Needs to be on this topic. Alright so thumbs down from grass. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:09   I'm giving it a thumbs up it's not a masterpiece it's just been I just it's the other thing is it's A.Z.'s pottery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:17   and it's it's not yeah it's that's the other reason it's you know it's like a hot knife through butter reading that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:23   book you just it's a real Pike you're not you know sitting there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6803">TS</a>]

01:53:27   Think shall engine anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:28   and it was always hopeful that may definitely contributes to why it is a more popular book I mean I have to say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6808">TS</a>]

01:53:34   always very happy to see anybody who starts off as self published as this author was achieve a nominal success I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6814">TS</a>]

01:53:41   like that you know easy to read. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:43   Definitely definitely goes along with that it helps grease the wheels the only other thing I did want to talk about was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6823">TS</a>]

01:53:48   just the movie a little bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6828">TS</a>]

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01:53:54   was announced I was going in the Headed you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:57   when you heard that Matt Damon was going to be not quite two things here the first was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6837">TS</a>]

01:54:01   when I decided I'm going to buy the Martian and give it a try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:05   when I went to buy it the cover is a big picture of Matt Damon's face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6845">TS</a>]

01:54:10   and this is always something that drives me crazy with books I've never ever you know what I used to buy a lot of books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6850">TS</a>]

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01:54:39   Totally with you on that one Greg. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6879">TS</a>]

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01:54:46   and I thought this is an electronic book it's not a real book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6886">TS</a>]

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01:55:01   select whatever the first edition cover was but no man to man was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:06   and it was almost enough to make me not buy the book but I did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:09   Overcome at the last second to get it just as the wheels were lifting off Matt Damon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6909">TS</a>]

01:55:14   but it did also cause the problem as I was reading the book I kept thinking Matt Damon is he this character. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:20   Remotely I don't think so I mean I can imagine that would have really affected how much I'd like to mock what NE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:26   and I mean that dime a dozen more right stuff and he does some rubbish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:31   and you know you can think what you want to bet him but I did have a blank slate for my mouth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6931">TS</a>]

01:55:35   What may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:36   and if I had met Damon preloaded as much what name I might not be saying quite the nice things about him that I am well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:43   maybe Owatonna I'll never know because I can't do it again but I don't have strong feelings about Matt Damon one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6943">TS</a>]

01:55:49   or the other so it's not like oh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:51   or do really like him I just add a few times I thought because of the humor I thought I have a hard time imagining Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6951">TS</a>]

01:55:58   Damon do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6958">TS</a>]

01:56:00   but I didn't feel like Matt Damon was in my brain as I was reading the book because I thought these characters seem so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:05   different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6965">TS</a>]

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01:56:13   and just just before we started recording this pod cast I thought I want to watch the trailer because I've seen some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6973">TS</a>]

01:56:20   people talking about it when it first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6980">TS</a>]

01:56:22   and the trailer is the perhaps the most magnificent least spoiler task Dick trailer I have ever seen it with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:33   Down doing I mean the trailers whatever it is two or three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6993">TS</a>]

01:56:36   Three minutes long but it hits every single plot point in the whole book. Yeah I was amazed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:44   I'm trying to remember actually I have watched a few times and I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7004">TS</a>]

01:56:47   when I showed it to my wife because she knew that I enjoyed the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7007">TS</a>]

01:56:51   and I said other making the film let's watch the trailer together and I think we watched it twice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:56   Larger of being struck by the quantity of spoilers and I do agree I do agree with your observation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7016">TS</a>]

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01:57:09   and watching it OK you watch it on your watch again as well it is a good trailer if you ignore spoiler issues it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7029">TS</a>]

01:57:16   make you think I want to go and see the film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7036">TS</a>]

01:57:18   I wish to cry so you just watch the trailer again I wish there was one thing I thought they didn't spoil them around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7038">TS</a>]

01:57:24   that it spoil all of the major plot points the trailer hits yet which if you're listening to us talk now we're assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:30   that you're OK with spoilers with it's the storm that comes his have has an explosion he finds the probe The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7050">TS</a>]

01:57:37   communicate with NASA NASA comes up with the plan to rescue him. The astronaut's already in space. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:43   Decide to do a mutiny and turn their space ship around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:46   and they show that the final take off where he is rescued from Mars it's just amazing they even have a shot showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:53   like the number on the wall how many days he's been alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7073">TS</a>]

01:57:55   and things like that whether it's always it's always deliver you know what there are so many spoilers it didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7075">TS</a>]

01:58:02   cross my mind that showing him writing four hundred sixty one on the wall is also a massive oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7082">TS</a>]

01:58:07   or I love you if you're going to survive the it's amazing I will I will say this face if you hadn't read the book a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7087">TS</a>]

01:58:17   of those spoilers would have been lost on me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7097">TS</a>]

01:58:21   That is truly like you would do the take off your pre-programmed couldn't of clocks that was him taking off from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7101">TS</a>]

01:58:28   Somehow you could easily have missed that you wouldn't have clocked at that was the old NASA probe that he was rubbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7108">TS</a>]

01:58:34   the dust off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:34   and using to to get back in touch with you definitely wouldn't have picked up on that if you didn't know the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:40   or you weren't very annoyed with mushing history so in some ways the spoiler is only spoiling for people who've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7120">TS</a>]

01:58:48   the book anyway and it's telling us what things of matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:50   and what have it I don't think it shows him flipping his vehicle which is was a big moment in the book as well wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7130">TS</a>]

01:58:57   it when he dropped when he's driving long distances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7137">TS</a>]

01:58:59   and if that's true that's true I don't think the show that maybe they had films that yet so they couldn't couldn't cram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7139">TS</a>]

01:59:05   later here might not be in there but I will I will just say again that at least for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:10   when I watch these trailers what I mean by spoilers is even if I don't know what the thing is I am very aware of shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7150">TS</a>]

01:59:18   like oh there's a different space ship taking off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:20   when I'm watching the movie My brain just has a little checklist of all of the shots that we saw in a trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:26   and is ticking them off and I've been in movies so many times where I'm just sitting there in my brain is thinking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7166">TS</a>]

01:59:31   Others to things in the trailer we haven't seen yet we haven't seen him seen him go up to a pile of robotic stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:36   and we haven't seen that second spaceships I'm just waiting and just hate that so much so yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7176">TS</a>]

01:59:42   Even if you don't know what's going on is still spoilers I haven't got your memory for trailers I don't have what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7182">TS</a>]

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01:59:50   and that is that that trailer is that is basically the whole film from start to finish this you know it really is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7190">TS</a>]

01:59:58   they as look you know the only thing they don't rule out is that there's a last second he dies because of some mishap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7198">TS</a>]

02:00:04   in the transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:05   or something that they didn't show him back on Earth that there have been you're lying for like having a having a drink. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7205">TS</a>]

02:00:14   Tussling is kids hair or whatever that's the way and Hollywood one in the movie The My final thought on this though is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7214">TS</a>]

02:00:22   Watching the trailer I thought this is going to make a way better movie than a book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:29   There there are times when books are turned into movies that are superior than them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7229">TS</a>]

02:00:34   and watching the trailer I thought oh I bet this is going to be a much much more enjoyable movie than the book because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7234">TS</a>]

02:00:41   I think the movie's going to force it to cut down on the techno babble a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7241">TS</a>]

02:00:46   and seeing Matt Damon playing the character I thought OK he's just playing a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7246">TS</a>]

02:00:53   but it is it doesn't necessarily have to be exactly like the guy in the book me can just be a you know a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7253">TS</a>]

02:00:59   wisecracking astronaut and it is much more palatable sometimes on film if you I my my where edgier bit more map more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7259">TS</a>]

02:01:08   Yeah it more chase him down one bit less exactly exactly he can be more Jason Bourne and less Mark what me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7268">TS</a>]

02:01:15   and so I just that was my conclusion was I thought this is probably going to be a movie that is way more enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7275">TS</a>]

02:01:22   and successful than the book is I think my critics I think the movie will be poorer for not having that unusual written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7282">TS</a>]

02:01:30   log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7290">TS</a>]

02:01:30   and I think there's something quite special about the transition from him only being able to write to them being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7290">TS</a>]

02:01:36   to you know text in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7296">TS</a>]

02:01:38   and I think turning into of a log which is what they're going to do because I have to yeah the media they have to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7298">TS</a>]

02:01:42   Yeah I think that's a loss. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7302">TS</a>]

02:01:45   I think something's lost there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7305">TS</a>]

02:01:47   but I don't know I'm always a bit worried about Martian films because I always have high hopes for films about mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7307">TS</a>]

02:01:54   and they so often disappoint mission to Mars from a remains the worst film ever made in the history of movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7314">TS</a>]

02:02:02   Yes although there is a bit of American flag that film because whenever it's on T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7322">TS</a>]

02:02:06   A I will watch it because it's so bad it wraps around her self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7326">TS</a>]

02:02:10   and I join the parents of a so I've watched the way more than of what some films I love that motion films very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7330">TS</a>]

02:02:17   missed the mark so let's hope let's hope this one's OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7337">TS</a>]

02:02:22   There's a mostly my my final thought you could not disappoint a few people that really love the book because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7342">TS</a>]

02:02:26   when you set as homework a few people got pretty excited because I love the book so much so you're going to disappoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7346">TS</a>]

02:02:31   you see people there but you've got a call that you got a call if you see it grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:36   and my disappointment for things shouldn't affect how other people feel about things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7356">TS</a>]

02:02:39   That's not relevant if they read the book and they enjoyed it I am I hope they did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7359">TS</a>]

02:02:46   Yeah and I would never wish a bad experience on anybody I would hope that they enjoy the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7366">TS</a>]

02:02:50   but you know we have to complain about something on the part cast Yeah that's that's that's how this works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7370">TS</a>]

02:02:57   Yep there we go. The Martian you Rick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7377">TS</a>]

02:03:00   Yet again we have recommended a book for homework and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7380">TS</a>]

02:03:03   when the time comes to discuss that one of us has absolutely slammed thought it was a waste of time to raid yeah is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7383">TS</a>]

02:03:11   say not awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7391">TS</a>]

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02:03:19   and also I would rather have read almost anything else. C.D.P. Great hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXmBdTU/7399">TS</a>]