00:00:00 ◼ ► Every time I'm editing me I always think. Who is this idiot talking. And why does he sound so much like me to Brady. [TS]
00:00:10 ◼ ► You have been up to some not enough. Since we last spoke. Yeah. I cannot tell a lie. What have you been doing. [TS]
00:00:18 ◼ ► Well after you gave me official approval for their reunion Swan pin to become the official bird. Of ephod cast. [TS]
00:00:28 ◼ ► And the Jamaican rice rep to become the official Ross rat of a podcast. Did I give you official permission. [TS]
00:00:37 ◼ ► I don't I I can I can't really lie because people just go back and listen to any way. [TS]
00:00:42 ◼ ► I believe I have to Kemah fish to Zoe I I did get up to a little bit of notice. And I created. The official T. Shirts. [TS]
00:00:58 ◼ ► Visit and made a little a little page where people could buy them. Now I want to be clear here. [TS]
00:01:03 ◼ ► I did this behind your back. But I didn't like going live with it without telling me I then at the very last minute. [TS]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Sort of said Gregory of. I've done something right. And you're like oh no you're walking up to me. Shuffling your feet. [TS]
00:01:21 ◼ ► Which is the designs for the reunion swamp hen and the rice wraps. T. Shirts Jamaican rice rat. Jamaican rice red. [TS]
00:01:30 ◼ ► Sorry the Jamaican rice right because there are other US rats but the Jamaican ricer as their official rice rat. [TS]
00:01:36 ◼ ► Would I wouldn't want people to get confused of course not exactly. So they station it's a currently available. [TS]
00:01:41 ◼ ► There's one of these counter deadline things on it that people have to buy them so hopefully by the time you put this [TS]
00:01:48 ◼ ► podcast up there still will be some days left so if you would like a Jamaican Russ rat or Reunion Swan pan. [TS]
00:02:03 ◼ ► Shirt yet know the that that hasn't happened you know I like what you're saying yet. [TS]
00:02:07 ◼ ► Yeah you think I need to leave the door open for that you were also it's a promotional T. [TS]
00:02:12 ◼ ► Shirts given to you by your night's Why would you not we want to race. Do I Do I wear all sorts of promotional T. [TS]
00:02:17 ◼ ► I think you're confusing me with Derek a very happy I'm not in your record of the last part cost of the Minute Physics [TS]
00:02:23 ◼ ► Taisha are meant to think human Henry did sneakily leave behind a Minute Physics T. Shirt. [TS]
00:02:28 ◼ ► When he visited me here in London and. It has been making its way in the rotation. For my wardrobe. [TS]
00:02:37 ◼ ► So currently the reunion swamp hen is outselling the Jamaican rice Raptor That surprises. [TS]
00:02:43 ◼ ► I mean it's a it's a rice rat. I'm not surprised that a hen is outselling a rice rat. Hen sounds nicer. [TS]
00:02:50 ◼ ► Are they different colors I forget I only looked at them the ones that latest. Shook my head. Disappointment. [TS]
00:02:56 ◼ ► They both come in grey of course. The official color palette Internet. That I will give you that I will give you. [TS]
00:03:06 ◼ ► But the Jamaican roster also comes in blue. And the reunion Swan pen. Also comes in red. Oh OK. [TS]
00:03:13 ◼ ► And their man designs and Lady designs available who can show you could buy two is H one CA and one for someone else. [TS]
00:03:21 ◼ ► Of the opposite gender you know. There you go people had a good sweat for sales pitch how could you not want one. [TS]
00:03:32 ◼ ► Henry threat of the hello internet pod cast I would say it's the official unofficial official share my so. [TS]
00:03:38 ◼ ► It's official in the sense that the Hell Internet Corporation is going to be making money off of these T. Shirts. [TS]
00:03:44 ◼ ► It's going to with your shot fund I'm surprised you're not talking it up. Yes it's official Hello into debt. [TS]
00:03:49 ◼ ► Merchandise that I'm sure will haunt us at all public gatherings. From now until the rest of time. [TS]
00:04:02 ◼ ► but it will live forever on the station at buy at where it. And tweak create a picture of it. [TS]
00:04:07 ◼ ► You know it don't do we've got a picture of it. That's perfectly OK. You don't need to sweep me. [TS]
00:04:14 ◼ ► You know you can tweet a picture of yourself. Hash tag. Never forget to make a rice rat. [TS]
00:04:20 ◼ ► If you don't need to include me on that one. I think. I think few of them enough will say Oh that we can. [TS]
00:04:25 ◼ ► That you could handle a few tweets. We'll see we'll see how it goes after the pod cast goes up. [TS]
00:04:29 ◼ ► One of the happiest moments of my life will be the first time you are asked to sign a reunion swamp a nice. Oh yeah. [TS]
00:04:42 ◼ ► I'm signing a reunion swamp into you share all this does is just confirm what I knew about you Brady. [TS]
00:04:49 ◼ ► Which is that I give you an inch and. You haven't taken a mile. You take in miles and miles. Astronomical units. [TS]
00:05:00 ◼ ► You should be admiring my entrepreneurial spirit. Very admiring us of how many things you get done. [TS]
00:05:27 ◼ ► I mean if I could put all the profits towards bringing back. Jamaican rice rat well. But I'm afraid. [TS]
00:05:31 ◼ ► If only they have it although I was listening to a podcast the other day about someone who's trying to bring back. [TS]
00:05:40 ◼ ► Woolly Mammoths magnificent gigantic bully mammoths that would be amazing. But maybe. [TS]
00:05:47 ◼ ► Maybe you can really sells a one on the Jamaican rice rat. Revival project instead. [TS]
00:05:52 ◼ ► He said it so as the charismatic megafauna people want to bring back. They're so charming. [TS]
00:05:59 ◼ ► but if we were going to be doing things Brady was obsessed with has a kid going to the woolly mammoth could definitely [TS]
00:06:05 ◼ ► Love myself some will remember the action that you do your little cave man had a generally mammoth body growing up. [TS]
00:06:15 ◼ ► I can't tell if you're being naughty or not so let's move a Swiss army knives. That coal and they are very cool. [TS]
00:06:23 ◼ ► They are very cool we talked about how cool they were last time and for people who aren't familiar with them and. [TS]
00:06:28 ◼ ► In my mind and I think most people's minds. The iconic color of a Swiss army knife is red. [TS]
00:06:40 ◼ ► So we heard from a member of the Swiss Army in the last episode and I sort of put the question out there. [TS]
00:06:51 ◼ ► It was only afterwards it occurred to me maybe red handles would be the best for a member of the military. [TS]
00:07:02 ◼ ► I'm not sure that the watch who takes to Switzerland wherever you happen to be serving one [TS]
00:07:08 ◼ ► or the other thing once more likely and it's not the Junco his name out right this comes from. Andrea's high Brady. [TS]
00:07:16 ◼ ► I spent a short stint in the Swiss armed forces as a driver with the Signal Corps. [TS]
00:07:30 ◼ ► However since two thousand and eight thousand eyes that issued anymore by the army at a different one is east. [TS]
00:07:38 ◼ ► At the new model is a bit larger can be opened with one hand and the blade is locked in the apron position. [TS]
00:07:44 ◼ ► I think it's funny how the English speaking world associates the north with the Swiss Army. [TS]
00:07:48 ◼ ► We just call that second message. Which means pocketknife. We so shout it was Switzerland in general not the army. [TS]
00:07:55 ◼ ► It is considered an object of cultural value. There is a common saying a proper Swiss always has a pocket knife on him. [TS]
00:08:02 ◼ ► They are red not as standard. As my thread is not standard looks good in red though. And you want to. [TS]
00:08:09 ◼ ► You want to useful multi-tool to be immediately identifiable. It will a bag full of gear. Read. [TS]
00:08:14 ◼ ► It is for the terrorists maybe I mean my original one was read Having said that my current society not has a blue Hendo [TS]
00:08:29 ◼ ► I always love that you have so many things within reach of where you're sitting. We do wherever the conversation goes. [TS]
00:08:39 ◼ ► Thank everyone get ready this is going to be the click of me I think my Swiss Army knife [TS]
00:08:43 ◼ ► and Ike And I give permission for people to use this is their ring time. Through it like the old i Phone on lock sound. [TS]
00:08:54 ◼ ► But I have a feeling we're about to get bogged down those we enter the way out of hot stuff as I have much. [TS]
00:09:14 ◼ ► Resistance to your terrible made up words. But hot stoppers is great. It's fun to say. And it's roughly descriptive. [TS]
00:09:23 ◼ ► So I it's why I'm on. I'm on board immediately. Here's here's the here's the thing Brady. When your ideas are good. [TS]
00:09:31 ◼ ► But you're eventually come around to the bad ones if you wear me down over the weeks in my view if your bad ideas are [TS]
00:09:39 ◼ ► Pete it often enough that it's a bit like brainwashing and you think. I guess freebooting does sound all right. [TS]
00:09:48 ◼ ► Do you know what the funny thing about stop as is and don't get me wrong I love the word [TS]
00:09:51 ◼ ► and we will continue using it is when I found that what the real name for these things were. [TS]
00:09:56 ◼ ► That's a pretty and word as well. What's the real word. Splash sticks. Splash dicks. [TS]
00:10:02 ◼ ► It's like hot stoppers that way better. Yeah. So here's my here's my follow up from this. [TS]
00:10:15 ◼ ► and talk about has it was much tweeting you spoon fed paper based in. Oh yeah. You are responsible for most of this. [TS]
00:10:23 ◼ ► You created this auto to wait wait if people just looked at their screen the wrong way they accidently tweeted [TS]
00:10:30 ◼ ► I was totally trying to rile up a lynch mob here Brady I'm not going to deny this it all happened because I want my hot [TS]
00:10:38 ◼ ► stoppers. And if I can foment an angry mob. With torches and pitchforks to storm Starbucks U.K. [TS]
00:10:46 ◼ ► Headquarters to make hot stoppers happen. I'm going to do it. And I'm going to totally abuse my power. [TS]
00:10:57 ◼ ► The feedback that came out was some people were saying Oh we do have hot stoppers. [TS]
00:11:02 ◼ ► and so I believe it was the one in Nottingham in Dade the University of Nottingham stop us apparently does supply. [TS]
00:11:09 ◼ ► Hot stuff as to its patrons. Yet another reason to go to the University of Nottingham. [TS]
00:11:14 ◼ ► I will give that as a one hundred percent legitimate reason to consider the University of Nottingham above other places [TS]
00:11:20 ◼ ► in the United Kingdom study. Put that in your league tables a better yet. Put it on your foot on your application form. [TS]
00:11:26 ◼ ► Why do you want to come to our university. I hear they're hot stoppers in Starbucks. [TS]
00:11:30 ◼ ► They could have let the front page of the universe devoting a prospectus is just a student having a stab us with a [TS]
00:11:34 ◼ ► great big heart stopper it presses of who could say no. Nobody. While I was trying to rabble rouse and. [TS]
00:11:50 ◼ ► and just me maybe Pratt's was getting in on the action which is another coffee company here in the U.K. [TS]
00:11:57 ◼ ► I saw their opportunities. Exactly. They were tweeting up a storm about oh we have hot stoppers and. [TS]
00:12:06 ◼ ► Blackmail Starbucks because I actually went out that morning for a coffee and I thought oh let me check and see. [TS]
00:12:11 ◼ ► And I went to press and I confirmed Oh yes I've ordered filter coffee or prep. They give me a hot stopper. [TS]
00:12:19 ◼ ► About how I go I got my morning coffee from Pret today and they have a lovely hot stopper. [TS]
00:12:24 ◼ ► Your moves Starbucks and Starbucks was very quiet all day long and as I'm sure some P.R. [TS]
00:12:33 ◼ ► What the hot stuff I think that freebooting guy get into out of context who knows what's happening. [TS]
00:12:43 ◼ ► And then eventually they send a tweet to me which I think was attempting to placate me. [TS]
00:12:48 ◼ ► But it just enraged me even further. Which was. They said Oh we do have hot stoppers.. [TS]
00:12:55 ◼ ► But they are in the drive through Starbucks. Here in the U.K. We don't have them in the regular Starbucks or have X. [TS]
00:13:01 ◼ ► I'd like to introduce you to my friend Gray who does not have a cause it's not just that I don't have a car. [TS]
00:13:13 ◼ ► And I kept a racing and trying to rewrite it and thinking like. How do I explain how do I explain in a single tweet. [TS]
00:13:21 ◼ ► How you have in a fury to me even more because now I know that there isn't as you were suggesting last time.. [TS]
00:13:28 ◼ ► Perhaps some dumb the choking regulation that's preventing hot stoppers. From entering the U.K. [TS]
00:13:34 ◼ ► There might be some corporate policy. Oh no there's there's no reason for this totally off the track. [TS]
00:13:40 ◼ ► Now we're using hot stoppers. In a situation where it is useful. And so it's just some some arbitrary. [TS]
00:13:48 ◼ ► Arbitrary decision. And just. I. There are hot stoppers to be had but not for me. Not at my Starbucks. [TS]
00:13:59 ◼ ► And I find this double e infuriating. Now. Now I'm angry or when I go to Starbucks.. [TS]
00:14:05 ◼ ► As opposed to when I just thought oh they're not in the U.K. So listen to me angry mob. This is not over. [TS]
00:14:12 ◼ ► Keep the tweets coming toward Starbucks. I am still serious about this. If the hello internet. Podcast. Accomplishes. [TS]
00:14:22 ◼ ► This change. I think it will be the greatest thing this pod cast has ever done. Really hot stoppers. In the U.K. [TS]
00:14:32 ◼ ► Greater than free pretty by greatest thing ever done. I really mean greatest thing for me. [TS]
00:14:39 ◼ ► Every heard and I mean accrediting and. So I mean. OK I know that charity money we raise the canary out of Africa. [TS]
00:14:46 ◼ ► Whatever. African penguin Penguin It's Megan. You know as they've been penguins live listen. [TS]
00:14:55 ◼ ► Although I did notice sort of the the equivalent population of a small African nation did tweet you to say you realize [TS]
00:15:00 ◼ ► you can buy these things on non-serious that of. So other things that were infuriating me about the hot stopper. [TS]
00:15:11 ◼ ► Yes that's right there is a million versions of two suggestions for people. Both of which I find if you're using one. [TS]
00:15:21 ◼ ► You know that you can buy these on the Internet. And just keep. Them we keep you all the time. [TS]
00:15:30 ◼ ► Oh I want to make sure that I always have some hot stoppers in my pockets or in my bag with me all the time. [TS]
00:15:38 ◼ ► And besides it's the kind of thing where it's going to be down in your coffee so you need to make sure that it's [TS]
00:15:44 ◼ ► relatively clean like I can't just throw it in my bag with all the other junk. This is no good. [TS]
00:15:49 ◼ ► And it adds to this cognitive load of like oh I have to think in advance for this thing that should just be a trivial [TS]
00:15:57 ◼ ► convenience. It's like a restaurant that just didn't have napkins. And they're like oh. [TS]
00:16:01 ◼ ► Just remember to bring your own napkins. You know what. Ignoto I'm not going to remember to bring my own napkins. [TS]
00:16:09 ◼ ► You're talking about what stuff is but there are a fundamental human right. Parted So we're here for it. [TS]
00:16:25 ◼ ► She knows when she when she gets in my cover the coffee she's like don't worry I won't spell it. [TS]
00:16:30 ◼ ► Because the smell of coffee. I mean you know how I feel about the smell of coffee. I do know. [TS]
00:16:35 ◼ ► I mean that's obviously where the pressure came to pass that the drive through hot stuff as we just need to bring some [TS]
00:16:43 ◼ ► Was this variation on a piece of advice that I get all the time from people across a wide variety of activities that I [TS]
00:16:51 ◼ ► also find. Of Oh just be more careful. People who are telling me oh just walk more carefully. With your coffee. [TS]
00:17:00 ◼ ► Why don't you pay more attention when you're walking with coffee and always someone so proud of themselves. [TS]
00:17:08 ◼ ► and hive tempers build a drop of coffee on myself why can't you accomplish the same thing. OK. Listen people. [TS]
00:17:20 ◼ ► A greater number of things without having to think about the details. That's what the path of civilization is. [TS]
00:17:27 ◼ ► And so if I want to walk with coffee and not have to think constantly. Don't jiggle it. Don't bump into anything. [TS]
00:17:33 ◼ ► Don't rotate your hand slightly too much. That's not progress. That's especially there's a solution available for this. [TS]
00:17:40 ◼ ► And I just find the just be more careful thing. Absolutely infuriating. And in my mind. [TS]
00:17:46 ◼ ► The iconic moment of this sort of advice was several years ago my wife and I had a had a friend staying over. [TS]
00:17:52 ◼ ► And this was just after Apple had introduced the brand new mag safe. Adapters for their laptops and. [TS]
00:18:04 ◼ ► Dismissed it immediately she goes Oh that's dumb. Why don't you just be careful around your laptop. [TS]
00:18:10 ◼ ► Why don't you just never trip over the cord like people who think that just drive me crazy it's like they're anti [TS]
00:18:17 ◼ ► progress. It's like for you want problems in the world. You want problems that people can. [TS]
00:18:26 ◼ ► I just saw just be more careful just infuriates me as a vision. Absolute absolutely infuriating. [TS]
00:18:39 ◼ ► and probably get stuck in the mouth of some polls little penguin chick in the ocean. Exactly exactly grade. [TS]
00:18:55 ◼ ► That will be shared for generations to come. A story of heartbreak. A story of triumph. [TS]
00:19:04 ◼ ► Grey's generosity and fractured gift of a picture of me an ordinary was indeed a selfless act. [TS]
00:19:19 ◼ ► I've been in touch with the people that fracture and arranged a very special print just for Greg [TS]
00:19:29 ◼ ► They have sent me a photo from the frac to reflow or. They did call it the factory floor. [TS]
00:19:35 ◼ ► And I can confirm it is a thing of beauty. Now I know what you're wondering what is it. [TS]
00:19:41 ◼ ► What picture has Brady uploaded to fracture to be ingeniously printed onto the back of a single piece of glass. [TS]
00:19:47 ◼ ► What image among the. The billions in existence. Could be worthy of a place on Grey's wall. And I think maybe by now. [TS]
00:19:56 ◼ ► You know the answer. That's right it's the re-union Swan pan. It may be gone forever. [TS]
00:20:07 ◼ ► and if you like to say the people at fracture displaying this masterpiece of out fashion are combined with modern [TS]
00:20:17 ◼ ► And I think there's a fair chance it will inspire you to fracture a picture perhaps for your family and friends. [TS]
00:20:24 ◼ ► If Sir. Go to fracture made dot com and use the off occurred hello internet when you check out. [TS]
00:20:30 ◼ ► And that will get you fifteen percent off your order. You really can't they. This is the perfect photographic gifts. [TS]
00:20:41 ◼ ► But the professional finish of a print that's already to guard ready to hang on the wall. [TS]
00:20:45 ◼ ► It's also a super easy process to upload an already a picture is seriously check them out. Go to fracture may dot com. [TS]
00:20:53 ◼ ► And remember to use the off occurred. How low Internet. For that fifteen percent discount. It also let Fraction I. [TS]
00:20:59 ◼ ► You're a supporter of the pod cast. Don't leave your best pictures or pictures of your favorite extinct animals. [TS]
00:21:05 ◼ ► Sitting on your phone or computer. Put them on show. There's nothing better than being surrounded by pictures. [TS]
00:21:24 ◼ ► It made a sound like I care finally decided on what face I want on my Apple Watch. [TS]
00:21:39 ◼ ► It's like Emperor's New Clothes are feel like you're walking down Oxford straight naked. [TS]
00:21:44 ◼ ► To everyone look at my amazing robes everyone. And I feel like shouting crowd. You're not wearing amazing roads. [TS]
00:22:01 ◼ ► No it's not it's not naked I just feel like I need to slap you in psych grade that doesn't look good enough. [TS]
00:22:06 ◼ ► You're cool than that the you think I am cooler than my apple watch. Particular. Yes. [TS]
00:22:13 ◼ ► Just as I want to suggest your co write an article that would not be a good suggestion that I have been many things in [TS]
00:22:20 ◼ ► my life. Cool is not one of them aren't. And I know a lot of people who listen have Apple watches on like them and. [TS]
00:22:27 ◼ ► I don't want to. And I know I've talked about a enough but it just doesn't look that good. I was thinking about it. [TS]
00:22:34 ◼ ► You know of us are speaking about all these things before. And it's little no taste. [TS]
00:22:42 ◼ ► I think of figured out what the problem is for today at least when the Apple Watch. Lacks sophistication. [TS]
00:22:53 ◼ ► I was sort of grappling with this thinking Heck I don't even understand what I'm thinking. [TS]
00:22:58 ◼ ► So what I did was I looked up the opposite of sophisticated in sophistication. And one of the words that was suggested. [TS]
00:23:05 ◼ ► Was an refined. And I think maybe that's what the airport is suffering from and some ice. [TS]
00:23:18 ◼ ► For once the thing it's up against as opposed to just a computer from ten years ago or twenty years ago [TS]
00:23:24 ◼ ► or a phone mobile phone from ten years ago. The thing is up against is something that has been three. [TS]
00:23:33 ◼ ► when you compare it you're comparing a new ball on that just hasn't quite figured out what it is yet. [TS]
00:23:41 ◼ ► and it's got a very different place in the world in a very definite Starner look. That's kind of you know. [TS]
00:23:55 ◼ ► Is childlike that fits in with what I just said like it's a it's a newborn that still hasn't quite figured out what it [TS]
00:24:03 ◼ ► I think that you are right in in the way that Apple is going up against this is stablished industry. So for example. [TS]
00:24:14 ◼ ► A thing that we will talk about later is that I recently saw your watch collection. In person. Yeah. [TS]
00:24:28 ◼ ► I mean yes a sixty year timeframe from your oldest one to your newest one that about right. Yeah I guess. [TS]
00:24:34 ◼ ► So it is definitely an industry that has been around for quite a while and one of the reasons why this is you. [TS]
00:24:46 ◼ ► Is that Apple just recently released their new version of the software for the Apple Watch. Which allows you to change. [TS]
00:24:53 ◼ ► A few of the things on the face primarily that. If you have applications installed on your watch. [TS]
00:25:00 ◼ ► They can use the little what Apple calls complications lots to display information. Them on the Apple Watch face. [TS]
00:25:06 ◼ ► Normally you have the watches in the center and there's four slots around the edge where you can put stuff. [TS]
00:25:12 ◼ ► The weather. How many TO DO YOU HAVE LEFT. These this kind of thing. And Apple having done this to me. [TS]
00:25:25 ◼ ► Because when it first came out you didn't have very many options about what you could do. And this is them. [TS]
00:25:53 ◼ ► So I think this is this is why I've been talking to a bunch of people about the Apple Watch [TS]
00:25:57 ◼ ► and everybody feels the same kind of frustration about the fact that you can't change it more to look better. [TS]
00:26:04 ◼ ► And that's one of the reasons why I was I was tweeting the thing that I did. Because my feeling was. [TS]
00:26:09 ◼ ► I have settled on this. But I'm not super happy with this like this is not the ultimate way that I want this to look. [TS]
00:26:17 ◼ ► But this is what I have decided is the way to make it look the best. Right now. So that's one of the reasons why I was. [TS]
00:26:24 ◼ ► I was tweeting that and I would definitely definitely look forward to more refinement. In the design. [TS]
00:26:42 ◼ ► Are these five Johnny I've selected designed that you have built in which are really only two. [TS]
00:26:49 ◼ ► Practically usable faces. Is not even remotely enough. That's why I feel this frustration. [TS]
00:26:58 ◼ ► Is a is a good way to is a good way to put it was there anything interesting in the feedback that you solicited from [TS]
00:27:03 ◼ ► people who did you wanted everybody to pile on my terrible watch design Well now did I think that it'll have it [TS]
00:27:09 ◼ ► and I didn't want people to pile on I want to hear what other people thought. Good and bad. [TS]
00:27:12 ◼ ► So I did get people to email me at my new email address that people should also use for the corners like what people do [TS]
00:27:24 ◼ ► At Cheam out up com That's the best one to send to if you want to get something read on the podcast. [TS]
00:27:29 ◼ ► Because my other email addresses you very likely just to get going missing. And that's the want to share. [TS]
00:27:38 ◼ ► So people did email me today they're at your watch by would say over of the fade back I got which turns out I have [TS]
00:27:44 ◼ ► printed out. Was sixty forty or seventy thirty. Against. And some people said they did like a lot. [TS]
00:27:58 ◼ ► And a locust is better than fake kind of OK. Which I think is you know. Often my point. [TS]
00:28:03 ◼ ► Having fake digital hands moving around protect the analog will always be something that baffles me. [TS]
00:28:09 ◼ ► When I understand that time moves in a circle and it's easier to rate the time in this way [TS]
00:28:17 ◼ ► But the the one thing that came up a few times even from people that did like your watch face is the green seconds [TS]
00:28:29 ◼ ► Because Apple has this thing where you do the screen shot and it looks kind of funny it's. [TS]
00:28:33 ◼ ► It's very hard to get a picture of how it looks. When you're really wearing it. I pick the green. [TS]
00:28:46 ◼ ► or it to me they're they're hard to visually. Pick out. And so this is one of the reasons why I like the green. [TS]
00:28:53 ◼ ► But the second is that I have always been a fan of the old fashioned look of computers. [TS]
00:28:58 ◼ ► That I grew up with Yash is just green phosphorus on a black background. That color combination is. [TS]
00:29:05 ◼ ► I think just because of the way I grew up a very attractive color combination to me. Yeah. [TS]
00:29:10 ◼ ► So that's one of the reasons why I. I like that. I don't think there are any other options. [TS]
00:29:15 ◼ ► That even if Apple came out with better colors. I'd probably stick with the green. [TS]
00:29:19 ◼ ► But that's a that is totally a personal as that ik that I have always really liked that color combination for [TS]
00:29:27 ◼ ► And so the whole watch that I have is black and then that little bit of green is the only color so I like it. [TS]
00:29:36 ◼ ► The color selection for probably the vast majority of people who would be using it. [TS]
00:29:43 ◼ ► and I'm just let people with bad Tice to express that bad Tyson paper with good test. Make the what shine betta Yeah. [TS]
00:29:49 ◼ ► They really do is even trying to think this morning like how much money would I be willing to pay for custom watch [TS]
00:29:56 ◼ ► faces. Apple. This is just your profit for you and. There's gotta be a huge amount of demand for it. [TS]
00:30:05 ◼ ► And even when they open it up they always open it up in in this frustrating way. And so with the most recent update. [TS]
00:30:15 ◼ ► Which I feel I got here we go like this is the beginning of people's watches looking terrible. [TS]
00:30:23 ◼ ► But even when Apple lets you do that it's like oh if you want to use the picture of your baby. For the watch. Well. [TS]
00:30:29 ◼ ► Wary deciding that the only way you're going to do that is the time is always going to be in the upper right it's going [TS]
00:30:34 ◼ ► to be small and you can have nothing else on the watch and. We're allowing you customization. [TS]
00:30:39 ◼ ► But it feels like we're doing it. Resentful e. Think we'd really rather not have you. [TS]
00:30:46 ◼ ► So we're going to make the only watch that lets you customize it be as inconvenient to actually use day to day. [TS]
00:30:53 ◼ ► As possible. Thanks Josh some just sent you a link. Looking at this link that you just sent me. [TS]
00:30:59 ◼ ► Us thought this was interesting little story. You have sent here link. About the Magna Carta flying first class. [TS]
00:31:12 ◼ ► Original back to Qantas is going on display. So it's going on the line from from the U.K. [TS]
00:31:18 ◼ ► Obviously this is just British Airways doing bit of a publicist on saying look we flew first class because that's how [TS]
00:31:26 ◼ ► I read in the article that the Magna Carta has a price tag of twenty four million pounds do you think it's just a [TS]
00:31:33 ◼ ► You have course you know you think maybe it's not related to security that they want to have someone sitting next to [TS]
00:31:52 ◼ ► I mean because nobody nobody cares about prisoners. But people do care about the Magna Carta. [TS]
00:31:57 ◼ ► And it's funny to think about the Magna Carta sitting there in the first class seat. Exactly. Funny. [TS]
00:32:05 ◼ ► but just what you're just saying you're saying it as though they'd have it down in the cargo hold. [TS]
00:32:11 ◼ ► And I don't think so I think you'd be flying first class anyway that's not what I say that you know I have been having [TS]
00:32:25 ◼ ► But the first class is simple message more interesting to me. Well. Like the twenty four million pounds. [TS]
00:32:32 ◼ ► You know where does that number come from people think it is pulling a number out of the air. [TS]
00:32:38 ◼ ► Do you think the Magna Carta would so for twenty four million pounds. Here's the thing if you put it up for auction. [TS]
00:32:43 ◼ ► Who knows how much these things. Go for at auction. Yeah I just it just needs to Russian oil barons doesn't. [TS]
00:32:49 ◼ ► Yeah that's exactly right. The auction is by no means any indicator. Her of the actual value of the thing. [TS]
00:32:57 ◼ ► Bill Gates just spent a couple years ago like a ridiculous sum of money for like one of Leonardo's notebooks [TS]
00:33:08 ◼ ► So like Bill Gates buys this thing and then people say oh it's worth. X. Number of dollars. [TS]
00:33:13 ◼ ► Well good luck trying to resell that. I don't think it's these numbers mean anything. [TS]
00:33:18 ◼ ► They just want to come up with some gigantic number that says oh the Magna Carta is worth. This amount of money. Yeah. [TS]
00:33:25 ◼ ► It's not meaningful. I think. Objects like this it is correct. To use the word. Priceless. [TS]
00:33:42 ◼ ► And if it's something to replace it with and it is priceless and I don't know about that go into. [TS]
00:33:48 ◼ ► Why is that not cares. You just bring this on me. But I feel that there. There is a case to be made for things. [TS]
00:33:54 ◼ ► Irreplaceable things are not intrinsically priceless. But I can think of nothing off the top of my head. [TS]
00:34:00 ◼ ► We will leave it for the read it I mean I could occupy says well you could argue both sides of anything. [TS]
00:34:10 ◼ ► The thing that was more interesting to me about how first class thing was I remember you telling me. [TS]
00:34:16 ◼ ► You know we have this ongoing discussion about you being willing to white weeks and weeks and weeks for a fly. Yep. [TS]
00:34:33 ◼ ► You tell me how wonderful it was so new I looked up this article when I rated first class cabin on different add ons. [TS]
00:34:41 ◼ ► Man first class cabins on different airlines are still over there evil. Even within an airline. [TS]
00:34:48 ◼ ► They are hugely variable. Hugely variable on this list that I'm looking at United Airlines Global first. [TS]
00:34:56 ◼ ► Twenty fourth at a twenty four. So you enjoy that sweet sweet first class they're part of a file. [TS]
00:35:04 ◼ ► After you've waited for weeks to get on the bottom of the pile. Compared to other people's first class cabins. [TS]
00:35:12 ◼ ► Not bottom of the pile. Compared to a condom me. This is the relevant point here Brady say Oh. [TS]
00:35:18 ◼ ► You spent a week at the twenty fourth best luxury hotel in the world. Oh poor you it must have been terrible. [TS]
00:35:25 ◼ ► No it was amazing because it's a luxury hotel is the twenty fourth best in the world there [TS]
00:35:31 ◼ ► but the thing you leave out of that story is the three weeks you spent in the slums of Calcutta waiting to get in the [TS]
00:35:39 ◼ ► The two weeks that I spent extra visiting with my family over the summer and entirely comfortable conditions. [TS]
00:35:45 ◼ ► You know I made Washington Dulles Airport. There's always Dulles there at the economy or not has always Dulles. [TS]
00:35:52 ◼ ► So that doesn't make any difference to your parents aimlessly. This is my whole point. Staying an additional two weeks. [TS]
00:35:57 ◼ ► No burden on me. Flying first class. Glorious it was a totally reasonable tradeoff to make think you're just grumpy. [TS]
00:36:06 ◼ ► and I think that's all this is I wouldn't want to fly in the twenty fourth best I want to fly in the best. [TS]
00:36:11 ◼ ► Remember that the next time you're sitting in an economy cabin somewhere off. What was the best way. [TS]
00:36:17 ◼ ► It's got to be like Singapore Airlines Singapore Singapore has I've seen that little promo video for it's amazing the [TS]
00:36:26 ◼ ► It's just it's astounding that you have basically a very small hotel room in the middle of the Singapore Airlines [TS]
00:36:34 ◼ ► flights. I flew Singapore Airlines to Singapore. I mean the effort class to define it was no. [TS]
00:36:44 ◼ ► and I wasn't willing to just go in the whim of the airline about when I could fly right right or terms that when we [TS]
00:36:52 ◼ ► and Kate Middleton had been in first class on that plane was quite a nice asst in terms of a ips on your client. [TS]
00:37:06 ◼ ► I mean i'm not impressed in the sense of you mean you didn't do anything to accomplish that you were just on the plane [TS]
00:37:15 ◼ ► I'm not impressed by your flying on the same flight with royalty if that's what you're asking me if I think it's [TS]
00:37:20 ◼ ► interesting. But I'm not impressed by your ability to be on a human transportation device with other humans. [TS]
00:37:32 ◼ ► Stand by does not rule stamp that Amber is a price you pay for something you want. [TS]
00:37:41 ◼ ► If you like this first class ticket for the day you're flying in your NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO I like the randomness of [TS]
00:37:53 ◼ ► You of all people control and wants everything the way he wants. You. Sometimes Brady just gotta live. [TS]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Live life on the now. And it's and it's worth it. I can't miss despising that what you're always telling me. Yeah. [TS]
00:38:07 ◼ ► I did realize you're listening. I'm just under doing the Brady thing in this scenario in reaping all the rewards. [TS]
00:38:14 ◼ ► Continuing with. Hello it's Ned the official podcast of the New Zealand flag referendum. I've gotta say Brady. [TS]
00:38:21 ◼ ► There is just man ting evidence that the hello internet pod cast. Is the decisive factor in the New Zealand. [TS]
00:38:35 ◼ ► I don't know what they're doing in New Zealand but whatever it is they're certainly fading out God complex. [TS]
00:38:40 ◼ ► Because I I feel like. All I have to do is suggest. Merely suggest something about the New Zealand flag referendum and. [TS]
00:38:48 ◼ ► It is tomorrow's headlines. Exactly. The over those of you listening to the podcast. The relevant piece of information. [TS]
00:38:56 ◼ ► Is that immediately after on the podcast. We discussed the red peak. Flag as the fifth contender. [TS]
00:39:04 ◼ ► I mean within twenty four hours. The New Zealand government. Capitulated and has added red peak. [TS]
00:39:11 ◼ ► To the official shortlist so that New Zealanders can vote on it in the referendum to decide what is going to go against [TS]
00:39:19 ◼ ► the New Zealand flag. Eventually at some place it's obvious that we have very influential in New Zealand. [TS]
00:39:25 ◼ ► I mean that's always been the case historically and this is just baring that happened. [TS]
00:39:30 ◼ ► Getting back to the actual politics of what's going on here. This is craziness. I mean you said on the podcast. [TS]
00:39:36 ◼ ► You hoop favors read Paco said. There was a snowball's chance in hell that it would be added. And I added it and and. [TS]
00:39:45 ◼ ► That was a new pics cheap ID. You're exactly right. There is no way I should have done this. [TS]
00:39:55 ◼ ► Just on the whim of the people I am all for responsive government the rest is none the less like there were a bunch of [TS]
00:40:01 ◼ ► rules that were laid out for how this thing is going to go. And then at the last minute. [TS]
00:40:10 ◼ ► I am glad that red peak is being included on this list. What did. It seems kind of crazy. [TS]
00:40:21 ◼ ► We're happy to negotiate with terrorists like that that's what this sounds like to me. [TS]
00:40:28 ◼ ► If someone doesn't like it they're going to overturn the referendum because of a hash tag [TS]
00:40:32 ◼ ► or something I mean this is crazy gray. Read pay. The Quds government wake. That is the new slogan of this. Oh Bernard. [TS]
00:40:41 ◼ ► No seriously it's like how spineless that a pig bunch of people who signed an online petition. [TS]
00:40:47 ◼ ► And they just said Alright which that one as well and this one was repeat even in the long list. [TS]
00:40:53 ◼ ► That's an interesting question I don't I don't know if it even was in long last screechy going to pan out. [TS]
00:41:02 ◼ ► Oh no it actually was on the long list it actually wasn't a long list. When I saw people saying that it's been added. [TS]
00:41:14 ◼ ► When I realize that it was real my immediate thought was oh so I guess it would be fun to organize an Internet outrage [TS]
00:41:36 ◼ ► I'd say hey let's let's start an Internet outrage campaign over the one that I think is probably. [TS]
00:41:43 ◼ ► The worst choice is to go with that black jack flag that I mentioned last night. Which has the New Zealand. Style. [TS]
00:41:50 ◼ ► Union Jack in the corner. Let's go right we're going to I'm going to start an Internet. [TS]
00:41:57 ◼ ► Clue what's the prime minister's Twitter like let's let's start a campaign for blackjack. This thing. [TS]
00:42:06 ◼ ► and I find myself to almost unable to resist the notion of going all in on a totally fake outrage campaign for [TS]
00:42:14 ◼ ► including the black jack flag. It's just a quick. Raising that it does I feel like there's a whole New Zealand. [TS]
00:42:27 ◼ ► I mean I don't know why I'm subset because I'm a strategy and I should speed laughing [TS]
00:42:30 ◼ ► and enjoying this debacle of New Zealand. But office sorry for them you know. It is been amazing. Because this thing. [TS]
00:42:40 ◼ ► Bureaucratic process has been spitting out a surprising amount of drama over a long period of time to find so I texted [TS]
00:42:51 ◼ ► my my in New Zealand the other dies on my best friends said to him. What do you think about the flags and. [TS]
00:42:58 ◼ ► We fought to well it was on to the one we've got that stick with it though is an argument for tradition with them. [TS]
00:43:06 ◼ ► I'm not saying it's a good argument for not saying it is an argument that makes any kind of rational sense. [TS]
00:43:11 ◼ ► There's certainly a portion of the population that is susceptible to things have always been this way. [TS]
00:43:17 ◼ ► The problem with the red pay can understand this is because I understand I already know if things are going to say. [TS]
00:43:24 ◼ ► And everyone's gonna say. And this and that this is true of every flag including the United States flag when it was me. [TS]
00:43:34 ◼ ► I would have had no idea what it was aware it was from. It doesn't it doesn't speak to me. [TS]
00:43:40 ◼ ► Of New Zealand the way that that obvious obvious fit. And us. I just think that over thought or. [TS]
00:43:53 ◼ ► And I've gotten so used to it that when the time has come for them just to sign on the dotted line. [TS]
00:43:58 ◼ ► They've had this crazy case of cold think. And gone. No it's just something pretty crazy and spontaneous. [TS]
00:44:05 ◼ ► Like just do what you supposed to do. I know you feel that way. I'm still going to back. [TS]
00:44:10 ◼ ► What I have seen online referred to as the hypno flag. The black and white Cory spiral of the name for it. [TS]
00:44:20 ◼ ► and white fern thing I can totally understand that we're going to say this thing which which I hope has the effect of [TS]
00:44:34 ◼ ► and I want to spread this like a mind virus which is that the black and white fern. Has this weird. Almost three D. [TS]
00:44:42 ◼ ► Effect to it. If you think about the white petals of the furniture the vertical ones. As though it's a row of Bush's. [TS]
00:44:50 ◼ ► And then the black. Petals on the other side. Are the shadows being cast by those bushes or like at the picket fence. [TS]
00:44:58 ◼ ► And the shadows. And I cannot. An see that now that I have heard it. And it would cause me to not vote for that option. [TS]
00:45:05 ◼ ► I just I can't deal with that once I've seen it cannot unsee. So I want to spread this out New Zealand. [TS]
00:45:12 ◼ ► And I'm only assuming as soon as the podcast goes live within twenty four hours. They're going to pull that flag. [TS]
00:45:18 ◼ ► I mean if history. History tells us anything it's that black and white fern your days are numbered. [TS]
00:45:27 ◼ ► I tell you I don't not the black and white flag either that much but I but it's the only black and white ones I've go. [TS]
00:45:44 ◼ ► I tell you I think crazy down there in New Zealand. Have you say no over and he read pick that started now. [TS]
00:45:51 ◼ ► The first the first one I saw with some of some of the side of the thing I thought about. [TS]
00:45:57 ◼ ► And if you're opposed to anything. Obviously the first thing you do is conjure up. Hitler and Nazi. [TS]
00:46:03 ◼ ► Because that's that's how to win any. And the for so the first article I saw about red Pequots. [TS]
00:46:09 ◼ ► This is the same logo that the Gestapo used on the checkpoints. And I was thinking. [TS]
00:46:14 ◼ ► Oh that's inside and I can't use the Gestapo checkpoint symbol of their flag. And then when I looked at the picture. [TS]
00:46:23 ◼ ► They just like cropped one little section of it in a certain way to show you sort of part of what red paint looks like [TS]
00:46:34 ◼ ► and then the other one was someone saying that if you hold it in a certain way it makes a short stick up [TS]
00:46:39 ◼ ► and that's true. If you get four flags and put the motor gather in a certain orientation. [TS]
00:46:54 ◼ ► And if you sort of a squint in turn your head in the right directions I haven't found then that you've got it. [TS]
00:47:00 ◼ ► You've got to say having fun. At least the talking flags. And that's a good thing. I now feel this. [TS]
00:47:12 ◼ ► Is not you don't feel like really proud of this feeling as a human being with it is sometimes just irresistible [TS]
00:47:18 ◼ ► and have little like. How can there be more trouble I how can we stir up some trouble. [TS]
00:47:24 ◼ ► It's all because they let in the additional flag right it was it was just business is normal [TS]
00:47:29 ◼ ► and then as soon as you show you're willing to capitulate in some way it's like our open the flood doors my friends [TS]
00:47:37 ◼ ► over. Than they really Mattis want to anyway will be back next episode with with more. [TS]
00:47:42 ◼ ► In fact just go into your news website now this probably stories are probably breaking already there live as his pod [TS]
00:47:49 ◼ ► cast is transmitted Black Jack forever. We'd like to thank all of you dot com for supporting the podcast. [TS]
00:47:57 ◼ ► They're pretty much the ultimate repository of all the best audiobooks and other spoken materials on the web. [TS]
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00:48:26 ◼ ► and from work each day she really most through the audiobooks should actually just finished one [TS]
00:48:31 ◼ ► and was wondering what to try next. I said to her look. Another you don't listen to the podcast. [TS]
00:48:36 ◼ ► If you did you know that gray recommended your beloved Golden Compass. She immediately downloaded it. [TS]
00:48:43 ◼ ► Now mention she listens on her drive to and from work but she also listens to audiobooks around the house [TS]
00:48:51 ◼ ► Of course I miss those hella long chunks when she tries to work but I already know the story. So that's I can my case. [TS]
00:49:02 ◼ ► I wasn't sure if it was for me or not but I'd say within ten to twenty minutes. I was tidally loving it. [TS]
00:49:12 ◼ ► and personalities all through the story you will my same room to have it all read by one person somewhere else. [TS]
00:49:26 ◼ ► That guy has a cove or so if he did a product as that would take over the world every time he comes on I say. [TS]
00:49:34 ◼ ► But another brilliant thing is that Philip Pullman himself the author is the main writer. [TS]
00:49:47 ◼ ► Anyway that's my old about recommendation this week The Golden Compass. By Philip Pullman super story. Great recording. [TS]
00:49:56 ◼ ► or was going to have something fear you want to give them a guy that's older blue dot com slash hello internet. [TS]
00:50:09 ◼ ► when you're going to be hooked it's a really great service I use myself. And if you do give them a guy. [TS]
00:50:14 ◼ ► If you use that U.R.L. Audible dot com slash hello internet. That's how they know. [TS]
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00:50:32 ◼ ► Just a quick Just a quick a. Just because a today news story at a time where recording. [TS]
00:50:40 ◼ ► when using has that help our cast work in a sunny that isn't. There was a at auction today. [TS]
00:50:51 ◼ ► One of the Awesomes that are only half jokingly I was talking with with their friend backpack I about maybe we should [TS]
00:50:59 ◼ ► go halves and buy. I think he was serious. And I was an unserious was the sports our Monette prop. [TS]
00:51:06 ◼ ► From The Back To The Future movies. Who now say now that we're. Be a cool thing though it would be. [TS]
00:51:13 ◼ ► It would be like Matt was basically saying does anyone want to chip in with me for an icon of replied. [TS]
00:51:19 ◼ ► Yeah like that's a code thing and made a few jokes but I was half hyping he'd get back to me and say. Seriously. [TS]
00:51:26 ◼ ► but you know what I think he was thinking the same thing without admitting it because he followed the option live. [TS]
00:51:31 ◼ ► And I think he might have bit because then he then said to me. He takes to me. Lakshman said I didn't get the almanac. [TS]
00:51:37 ◼ ► We use the other person. Like I think he thought I was bidding against him. What are they go for in the end. [TS]
00:51:42 ◼ ► It went and actually went for about four thousand seven hundred pounds I think it's like remove the numbers [TS]
00:52:00 ◼ ► Fig's Ackley right you just put that in the patch in front of effects to the safety. Yeah. [TS]
00:52:05 ◼ ► But I'm just thinking if I was if I was an eccentric millionaire. With a big house. [TS]
00:52:10 ◼ ► I might I might bit on that sports all the knack. Prop and have it framed somewhere in the house like that is. [TS]
00:52:18 ◼ ► and it's a fun prop because it's so pivotal to the movie as well. Is not just is not just. [TS]
00:52:27 ◼ ► but that everybody uses is like that like the sports all men act move the plot so I I could definitely see to blame [TS]
00:52:35 ◼ ► that on Omaha for granting that we didn't know get together and trying to chin for it now if we could live [TS]
00:52:39 ◼ ► but if we're pitching in for it. I wouldn't want to share it with you and Matt Parker. [TS]
00:52:43 ◼ ► And frankly a third of four thousand pounds is more than I would be willing to actually pay for it. [TS]
00:52:52 ◼ ► Oh it could have just been like an investment we could have put in a safety deposit box and. [TS]
00:52:57 ◼ ► It's just it's an investment is like oh I have actual investments to invest and pose them elect that is not a. [TS]
00:53:03 ◼ ► You couldn't sell that to me as an investment vehicle. The whole thing about it is that cool. [TS]
00:53:13 ◼ ► and opposing you know that what you mean yeah I say I'm sounding like your wife opposing the making perfect sense yeah. [TS]
00:53:18 ◼ ► When you're sitting at the kitchen table trying to pitch for Marty McFly sports all men act as an investment [TS]
00:53:28 ◼ ► But the thing is I have this incredible collection of framed or to graft. Astronaut photographs. [TS]
00:53:35 ◼ ► And they currently sitting in this huge locked box. In a whole other city. And she's always saying. [TS]
00:53:45 ◼ ► But I'm too scared to put it on the walls because I don't want the sunlight to fight all the photos [TS]
00:53:56 ◼ ► I mean she she doesn't want to look at them anyway I think she's quite happy not having them in the house [TS]
00:53:59 ◼ ► but for my sake she says you should put them in your office or something because they mean so much here and [TS]
00:54:04 ◼ ► and on my own No I don't want to ruin them or have anything happen to them than we were discussing this on my visit. [TS]
00:54:10 ◼ ► I'm with your wife on this one. You should display at least some of them every day Brady. [TS]
00:54:15 ◼ ► Every day you are one step closer to the grave. And your inability to enjoy those photographs. [TS]
00:54:25 ◼ ► Something is seriously wrong in my life when I'm being given seize the moment advice from C G P Chris. Well it's just. [TS]
00:54:38 ◼ ► You're just a hoarder at this stage very best all you are you're just hoarding. Sighing photographs of astronauts. [TS]
00:54:46 ◼ ► When you're telling the story. Just for the listeners here. When I visited you at your house. [TS]
00:54:50 ◼ ► You showed me a trunk full of photograph of that was and that wasn't even the good stuff. [TS]
00:54:55 ◼ ► But this is but this is what I mean now when you're telling me this story it's a zero. There are other trunks. [TS]
00:55:03 ◼ ► You already showed me what I thought was an ungodly number of photographs. So you're just you're just a hoarder. [TS]
00:55:12 ◼ ► I'm a collector that's why I'm telling you write them on your wall no hold on the come back to you. OK. [TS]
00:55:17 ◼ ► I mean you're not a hoarder in the sense of to walk into your office I didn't have to walk by stacks [TS]
00:55:23 ◼ ► and stacks of a fucking to astronaut to the walls in every direction. But you say collector. [TS]
00:55:34 ◼ ► This is why I'm telling you put them out in your office. Frame them. Have them up so that you can enjoy them. [TS]
00:55:44 ◼ ► Well you have enjoyed them while they are up there otherwise to enjoy things other than having them directly in front [TS]
00:55:50 ◼ ► of your Abos by the way. Yeah I mean I guess if you enjoy the notion that you have locked them all the way. [TS]
00:55:56 ◼ ► In your hoarder boxes in stash them in caches around the world. In different cities. [TS]
00:56:04 ◼ ► You go right ahead you go right ahead and do that but then I never want to hear again. [TS]
00:56:13 ◼ ► You're conflicted about this that's why I'm I'm trying to help you through this conflict. But the model off. [TS]
00:56:25 ◼ ► I could make a lovely little museum in my second office could not like a little display room with people could come in [TS]
00:56:30 ◼ ► at my two totally could we discuss this possibility. I really wish that you would defer it. [TS]
00:56:36 ◼ ► But you're not you're just going to whoredom forever. And then you're going to die. [TS]
00:56:40 ◼ ► And they'll look just as good on your deathbed. As they did the day that you got them. The end. The end of Brady. [TS]
00:56:49 ◼ ► Remember in the last pod cast we spoke about car crashes and you speak about your car crash. [TS]
00:57:08 ◼ ► OK this is the weird thing about about the numbers with the podcast that I have. I have a hard time. [TS]
00:57:15 ◼ ► I have a hard time thinking about. When we were having that discussion. This thought actually passed through my mind. [TS]
00:57:31 ◼ ► Where you have a pretty good sense of where is someone when they're watching one of your youtube videos. [TS]
00:57:40 ◼ ► If the analytics are anything to go by ninety percent of the traffic comes from people. During work hours at work. [TS]
00:57:48 ◼ ► Procrastinating. This is where the whole You Tube economy is built on. But the pod cast. [TS]
00:57:53 ◼ ► They go out in the world and people are doing different things and. I mean I was taking a look at our at our analytics. [TS]
00:58:02 ◼ ► The other day and we can roughly say that that we might have like a quarter million downloads an episode now. [TS]
00:58:10 ◼ ► Pod cast analytics are always crazy but I think that's that's fair to say and that's what the episodes get. [TS]
00:58:21 ◼ ► Happening when people are listening to the show just because the numbers are are that big. [TS]
00:58:29 ◼ ► As I would have thought but that's because you're a smart guy and you've already thought of her. I'm not surprised. [TS]
00:58:35 ◼ ► But it's a little weird to get confirmation of a thing that has crossed my mind. I mean here's the morbid part of it. [TS]
00:58:42 ◼ ► Has someone died listening to the podcast in a car crash Liz you're not going to hear from them. [TS]
00:58:47 ◼ ► But just dotted all just don't you don't take this responsibility too seriously Brady. [TS]
00:58:52 ◼ ► But we might very well have been the last. Two human voices that someone heard. It just chilled me thinking about that. [TS]
00:59:06 ◼ ► or you for one it's just it's been on my mind it's been on my mind in a way that I find on settling. [TS]
00:59:12 ◼ ► But so let's hear the details of this. Before I give you the details of this car crash. [TS]
00:59:16 ◼ ► One of the other times it's not as dramatic but it's always a reminder that the audience is reasonably large. [TS]
00:59:22 ◼ ► Is that every time any podcast comes up some a move tweet or send a message saying oh this is brilliant. [TS]
00:59:27 ◼ ► It's like you put it up for my birth that's my birth I said there's a new podcast out. [TS]
00:59:31 ◼ ► And then ten minutes later someone else doesn't and ten minutes later someone else does [TS]
00:59:44 ◼ ► So I actually that's not very surprising if this is where I'm a terrible human being because every time I see one of [TS]
00:59:56 ◼ ► and say the thing that you're going to say just close the reply box there's no point to saying this because I always [TS]
01:00:00 ◼ ► want to just say you know we didn't make it for you right. Happy birthday. But it's not for you. [TS]
01:00:10 ◼ ► but I just I have this literal response every time I see those kind of government that I feel like I want to correct [TS]
01:00:15 ◼ ► the person like I'm happy this is a nice coincidence for you but it wasn't for you buddy. It's just your birthday. [TS]
01:00:21 ◼ ► It is a well there's about seven hundred other people whose birthday is also listening to the podcast. [TS]
01:00:25 ◼ ► Happy birthday to everybody who had birthday it is today. Happy birthday to you whenever you're listening to a cry. [TS]
01:00:33 ◼ ► Don't tweak Ray Cellette me tell you that this character Ash. This is Nicholas. He's in I hired. He's a grad student. [TS]
01:00:44 ◼ ► You won't believe this but I was listening to your pod cast. And I was one hour and ten minutes in. [TS]
01:00:49 ◼ ► In some diversion about a guy getting three being in a car crash. When I myself was in a car crash. [TS]
01:00:58 ◼ ► Across the incoming lines and right in front of my hunter accord. Thankfully no one was hurt. [TS]
01:01:03 ◼ ► I thought you might not believe this crap. So I emailed back. Nicholas and I said. Can you send me a bit more evidence. [TS]
01:01:13 ◼ ► Because he came back to me with multiple pictures of the crash saying the police report number. [TS]
01:01:21 ◼ ► The name and badge number of the police officer who attended this his insurance claim for number [TS]
01:01:34 ◼ ► And he then also proceeded to go into incredible detail trying to recount exactly what part of the podcast he was that [TS]
01:01:50 ◼ ► You were talking about that Reddit user code as Oxiana and like he went through. Oh I think it's the Rio do. [TS]
01:01:57 ◼ ► I like this guy. The only way this could be more confirmed is if he had sent you dash cam footage of the accident. [TS]
01:02:08 ◼ ► Happily chatting about a car crash while a car crash happened. The only way this could possibly be more confirmed. [TS]
01:02:19 ◼ ► He could have sent us like a copy of that day's paper like stained with his blood and that of the victim. Anyway. [TS]
01:02:33 ◼ ► and listening to the start of the section about car crashes. It was just starting as as his crash happened. Matter. [TS]
01:02:41 ◼ ► I mean it is that. Well no it wasn't bad because no one was hurt and it wasn't his fault. Drive safely people. [TS]
01:02:47 ◼ ► Here's one other. What people do while listening. This comes from failure. Say is fifteen. [TS]
01:02:55 ◼ ► And her dad Richard is forty eight. Hi. My father about enthusiastic listeners to hello internet. In fact. [TS]
01:03:02 ◼ ► If that isn't together grey to that mean we're only getting one down light. To this news. Yes that does mean that. [TS]
01:03:09 ◼ ► That's with no. Not the only ones doing anything wrong come just don't just think you know I'm thinking about stats. [TS]
01:03:24 ◼ ► Yes all of them had watched it you would be up one one thousandth of the set for a long time his joked about being [TS]
01:03:32 ◼ ► similar to gray. Very organized. Physics teacher who does it for the long holidays. [TS]
01:03:37 ◼ ► Loves after are more of a Brady file. Nice use a file that. It's good that's good I look after the family dogs. [TS]
01:03:48 ◼ ► Public Service Broadcasting has suddenly become my favorite band recently. Inspired by the pod cast. [TS]
01:03:53 ◼ ► We started doing our own family white last competition. Seeing as we are the healthiest part of this includes running. [TS]
01:04:05 ◼ ► Thank you for a thank you for a brilliant and entertaining podcast. And I thought that lovely message from failure. [TS]
01:04:17 ◼ ► You don't sound happy Brady haven't already I actually know it is why I haven't my white hasn't changed. [TS]
01:04:22 ◼ ► I did way myself this morning I just remembered you are like me last week with a with a null change. [TS]
01:04:27 ◼ ► Now you have a spoiler though you already know the answer to how much I lost don't you know a time. I am following. [TS]
01:04:37 ◼ ► and the last at the right time to see what's going on well Brady you will never look at that account at the right time [TS]
01:04:50 ◼ ► Looking at the track record here usually somewhere around like six forty five in the morning. [TS]
01:04:55 ◼ ► So I think that misses you by many hours. I sometimes get up to let Odrick for away at that time. [TS]
01:05:04 ◼ ► So maybe a little out how to go right back to bed I'll check. Like I don't have it for that yet I don't check Twitter. [TS]
01:05:11 ◼ ► Don't check Twitter just cope active. So this week. I am down four point four pounds Wow. [TS]
01:05:19 ◼ ► And it hasn't even been to wakes. Yeah it's two kilograms for the metrically minded. [TS]
01:05:32 ◼ ► It's been ten days since the last measurements cry that's brilliant you smashed up my. It's gone pretty well. [TS]
01:05:38 ◼ ► Turns out. When you feel like a bunch of people are watching you. You change your behavior. [TS]
01:05:45 ◼ ► Now I am not willing to categorize this as an unmitigated win. Because I mean even five pounds of people's weight. [TS]
01:05:59 ◼ ► It is not like losing fifteen pounds we feel like OK I've definitely done something and. [TS]
01:06:09 ◼ ► Which is about impound is about to tend to fifteen like. This is always the range. In which I normally. Yeah. Bounce. [TS]
01:06:16 ◼ ► So I don't feel incredibly confident about this yet. But if you're like OK this is. This is in the good. [TS]
01:06:23 ◼ ► This isn't a good direction. Well I mean for all we know just before the when you went and did a giant post. Well. [TS]
01:06:31 ◼ ► I'm stalling here because I'm thinking like how much detail should we go with I'm just staying silent because I want to [TS]
01:06:46 ◼ ► I guess we might we might as well go into the details but yes the. There was my brain for thing out for a moment. [TS]
01:07:03 ◼ ► I decided to write from the beginning that. I basically get up and. I weigh myself. [TS]
01:07:09 ◼ ► That there's there's no trying to mess with the numbers by. I like a you rely on Corey about it look you're like. [TS]
01:07:17 ◼ ► Look I don't want to go into any details but let me just say I have no proof before way and row. [TS]
01:07:25 ◼ ► Which is pretty much over data. I guess that is. But with the stuff you have to be consistent. [TS]
01:07:33 ◼ ► You can always deliver on on those kind of expectations so I figure this is the more consistent approach is just get up. [TS]
01:07:47 ◼ ► But even even the data that I have you're like you can see there is there is if you're weighing yourself every day [TS]
01:07:52 ◼ ► there's up and down fluctuations. So that's why is the trend line is the trend line that matters. [TS]
01:08:02 ◼ ► It has been an interesting ten days because I have been very strictly following my plan for food. [TS]
01:08:10 ◼ ► Which is basically a limb in aiding carbohydrates in the form of things like pasta and bread so we're cereals [TS]
01:08:24 ◼ ► More proteins like eggs and tuna and also things like salads and stuff. And in the past when I have done this stuff. [TS]
01:08:32 ◼ ► I have almost always failed. Relatively quickly. Because I find myself in this really low energy state of like oh OK. [TS]
01:08:40 ◼ ► My body is unhappy now with this sudden change. Why is there no ice cream to eat smaller watching T.V. [TS]
01:08:48 ◼ ► I go this is disappointing. That's what my stomach is thinking. And so I have found that the great Twitter help. [TS]
01:08:57 ◼ ► Health but has been helpful in not breaking the food rules here. So that is where it has been useful for me. [TS]
01:09:06 ◼ ► But again I don't I'm not counting on that working long term I just think it's interesting that this is been a long [TS]
01:09:15 ◼ ► Without a doubt if this is made me think of the lightbulbs conversation we had way back at the beginning of the pod [TS]
01:09:21 ◼ ► cast. About how there are these four dials in your life. Which are health. Friends. Work and family you know. [TS]
01:09:35 ◼ ► Of the health light bulb the work light bulb has gone way down I can just sense that. [TS]
01:09:42 ◼ ► I am so much low energy I have gotten. So no little done in the past ten days compared to what I normally do. [TS]
01:09:50 ◼ ► And it is eight ages I feel like this is just this reconfirmation that OK maybe I'll eventually readjust. [TS]
01:09:57 ◼ ► And kind of get back to a regular level. But for the moment when things are different. [TS]
01:10:03 ◼ ► And I'm finding myself having to concentrate on the fact that things are different. [TS]
01:10:16 ◼ ► That work has gone way down so I feel like I have been relatively unproductive these past ten days but for the moment. [TS]
01:10:23 ◼ ► I'm willing to make that trade off with health. Versus work. Because the energy you gotta come from somewhere. [TS]
01:10:35 ◼ ► But yes basically stuffing yourself so you can lose what I know I'm not starving I'm not starving because I mean you [TS]
01:10:48 ◼ ► but roughly speaking I'm doing some kind of version of what's called slow carb or Akido. Which is are these diets and. [TS]
01:11:05 ◼ ► Where you just feel really really low energy as your body chemistry is readjusting that this is just kind of normal for [TS]
01:11:11 ◼ ► people. But the whole point of these diets. Is that you're not depriving yourself of amounts of food. [TS]
01:11:18 ◼ ► Like you can eat as much as you want as long as you're not eating pastas and breads. [TS]
01:11:24 ◼ ► And so at no point in this time have I felt hungry. A gift. There's plenty of things that I. You eat. [TS]
01:11:29 ◼ ► So it is definitely not a starving myself thing. But it is a. Just a feeling like a low low energy. Thing. [TS]
01:11:45 ◼ ► But I'm just saying you should have enough energy to work and I think if your dog is not. [TS]
01:11:58 ◼ ► Which is not the case well I'm just saying I'm working at maybe fifty percent capacity. [TS]
01:12:03 ◼ ► There's a big difference between if the diet was so severe that all I was doing was laying around incapable of think at [TS]
01:12:15 ◼ ► and turning everything else down to zero is not a good decision. Right no matter how much you want to get healthy. [TS]
01:12:21 ◼ ► But I'm just saying that the health light bulb is out like fifty percent work light bulb is twenty five percent. [TS]
01:12:28 ◼ ► And family and friends are getting the rest of what's left over well that's where I am right well I'm sighing [TS]
01:12:33 ◼ ► and I'm sounding like my wife again here but what I'm saying is is obviously what you're doing is not sustainable. [TS]
01:12:45 ◼ ► That is sustainable for the rest of your life that has yet bucko white you're happy with and the level of health. [TS]
01:12:51 ◼ ► You're happy with and an energy level you're happy with. And if you're that trading off here and doing. [TS]
01:13:06 ◼ ► and fair enough if you want to implement something that's not sustainable that's a perfectly legitimate thing to [TS]
01:13:16 ◼ ► We find these conversations really interesting with you. If this feeling of being low energy. Continues indefinitely. [TS]
01:13:26 ◼ ► However I'm willing to undergo the assumption that the first time I am doing something that the first several weeks of [TS]
01:13:38 ◼ ► and might require taking energy from other places have a GREAT THIS IS THE like your modus operandi and it's mind her. [TS]
01:13:47 ◼ ► You know you can use your fancy terms and talk to me about trade of course and things like that. [TS]
01:13:51 ◼ ► But what you're doing with your white is what you do with other things in your life. [TS]
01:13:55 ◼ ► And that is he bade your Been juror you take it really easy for two or three weeks. [TS]
01:14:05 ◼ ► This is the way you work and now you to an exact same thing with your health. You're like a binge. Thing healthy. [TS]
01:14:14 ◼ ► And what I should be thinking about I'm constantly told think of as well is just implementing an overall plan. [TS]
01:14:20 ◼ ► That doesn't require three weeks of seventy five percent lot Bob followed by two weeks of eight percent light bulb [TS]
01:14:27 ◼ ► and nine percent light bulb and then. Three days of crazy work and then five days a video games. [TS]
01:14:37 ◼ ► At the level they should be humming at and not be constantly switching one up for blast. [TS]
01:14:42 ◼ ► And then switching one down and. You know I'm a crazy. I don't think you're crazy. [TS]
01:14:47 ◼ ► I don't remember our lightbulb conversation. Well enough to years on now for whenever we had it. [TS]
01:14:52 ◼ ► But I feel like we're revisiting the same thing where your notion is like oh just make every lightbulb right. [TS]
01:14:59 ◼ ► And my feeling is that's not possible or no no no no not make them. Brought make them decide what they're going to pay. [TS]
01:15:08 ◼ ► No and there can be minor tweaking but what I'm saying is you practically you turn a broad up [TS]
01:15:17 ◼ ► When you put video at do you not do two or three days of just crazy work. Working these kind of twenty hour days. [TS]
01:15:23 ◼ ► To put a video and then use and then you stop and have a couple of days off. Is that not binge behavior. [TS]
01:15:31 ◼ ► I usually have two to four depending on the length of the video days of nonstop work. That definitely happens. [TS]
01:15:40 ◼ ► But this is his I just feel like you then you then assume that it means oh I've done nothing for three weeks. [TS]
01:15:47 ◼ ► And it all happened in the last couple of weeks that we have talked many times about how that's a particular phase. [TS]
01:16:01 ◼ ► and then I like Oh she has a video like let me turn the dial to one hundred percent for work [TS]
01:16:06 ◼ ► and they're like Oh crap now I just need one hundred percent relaxation time is not MY the experience the experience of [TS]
01:16:12 ◼ ► my life there are definitely bursts where I work more but you know up. What I think it is. [TS]
01:16:18 ◼ ► I actually think it is what you do that I know I can't know it because like I haven't got security cameras in your [TS]
01:16:24 ◼ ► house. But. But the. But the growing body of evidence. I get is you say. It's balanced. And I say. I don't believe you. [TS]
01:16:34 ◼ ► I didn't you can't you're putting words in my mouth. I don't say that it's balanced. [TS]
01:16:42 ◼ ► And everything else is zero or there nothing care when I know nothing. When it's an animation weekend. [TS]
01:16:59 ◼ ► And it's just that the health thing has reached a tipping point where it's like OK this really really super needs to [TS]
01:17:08 ◼ ► and willing to accept the tradeoff that it means that my work out that will be less. [TS]
01:17:12 ◼ ► It seems all very reasonable to me Brady. When you say in measured times and science reasonable. [TS]
01:17:17 ◼ ► It sounds ration of though doesn't it though. But I think the reality is different. Look a. [TS]
01:17:27 ◼ ► but you just like say I'm going I five weeks and not working five wakes and I'm having this fellow period [TS]
01:17:32 ◼ ► and then I'm going to go and do this and. Well again. I have to stop you right there. [TS]
01:17:36 ◼ ► Because yes I did have a six week vacation. Over the summer. But during that vacation. I didn't work on any videos. [TS]
01:17:46 ◼ ► Like it's not as though there's nothing happening there with the cortex every week during that holiday [TS]
01:17:52 ◼ ► and then we did two hello internet we did. Right so that's eight pod cast over the six week period. [TS]
01:18:04 ◼ ► and then suddenly remember like oh maybe I need to do something. This is a few G.P. Gray in your mind. [TS]
01:18:10 ◼ ► And you and you absolutely refute my accusation that you exhibit some binge behavior. [TS]
01:18:17 ◼ ► I already agreed with you that I exhibit been dry here in animation weekends before videos go I can without I without a [TS]
01:18:23 ◼ ► doubt. I completely agree with you there. Well whatever whatever. You've done well that's that's. [TS]
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01:21:54 ◼ ► Hello internets. I ready for the next bit. OK. Sorry. We had an adventure. We did. We had a real life field trip and. [TS]
01:22:07 ◼ ► Because we are men of action. And professional. Yes How how does not know that sort of stuff. [TS]
01:22:19 ◼ ► Say that the listeners could share a few snippets of while we talk about it. Well here's the first I K. [TS]
01:22:29 ◼ ► So I've picked crap from the trying station and we've driven to the town of Western super Mare. On the Bristol Channel. [TS]
01:22:36 ◼ ► We're looking across the Bristol Channel at the moment towards whilst over the say on up with Wells. [TS]
01:22:41 ◼ ► That's why was I will be over there. I did not know. You can see Cardiff is like the big city. [TS]
01:22:47 ◼ ► Not that we're in a movie. Anyway. Oh it's hard to find over there yet in the building Yeah that's part of the Wales. [TS]
01:22:54 ◼ ► Anyway. But we're not here because a while we're distracted already whereas the usual secular ready. [TS]
01:23:07 ◼ ► Not feeling uncomfortable although your wife I or the Internet is absolutely terrible. Up here. [TS]
01:23:14 ◼ ► The worse my cell connection gets This is how I think of all the things that's always my thinking a train trip. [TS]
01:23:22 ◼ ► We haven't we haven't had a good look at Disneyland yet which is that destination it's just over there in the distance [TS]
01:23:29 ◼ ► but how did you were describe the weather for papal suitably dismal. It is suitably dismal. It is very cloudy overhead. [TS]
01:23:43 ◼ ► Which looks very brown hand dismal today the water. Though yes everything is appropriate for the setting of Disneyland. [TS]
01:23:55 ◼ ► Was the story here. We went to dismal land. Dismal land. I was a dismal. Dismal last night. [TS]
01:24:04 ◼ ► He has you said it's probably more correct. Dismal last dismal and. But then fly did he lose the word dismal. [TS]
01:24:11 ◼ ► When you sat I saw say dismal land. OK. Well they should have written it differently. [TS]
01:24:16 ◼ ► If they want to people to pronounce it differently. It looks like Disneyland to me. But it is a Banksy art exhibition. [TS]
01:24:32 ◼ ► Is it still actually there while recording this in the doorway recording it is but by the time this podcast goes out. [TS]
01:24:40 ◼ ► I think it was five wakes should explain who Banksy is what you think everyone knows he Banksy is I don't know how to [TS]
01:24:47 ◼ ► And I'm also not super familiar with him I think you have a much better sense of who he is so why don't you explain who [TS]
01:25:05 ◼ ► Well Cafe T basically but very witty clever and artistically clever. Graffiti and he just became a bit of a phenomenon. [TS]
01:25:13 ◼ ► And now it's something of yours gets bank safe. If the front wall of your house gets a bank secrecy tiara. [TS]
01:25:21 ◼ ► Pretty much what you took the first thing you do is put up a huge protective things are no one can touch it [TS]
01:25:26 ◼ ► and then you sell that well for a million dollars. Because anything backseat. Touches A does is now. [TS]
01:25:33 ◼ ► Highly sought after in the community. But he sort of has transcended just going and putting paintings on walls now. [TS]
01:25:40 ◼ ► And he does. He does various exhibits and installations and cure rates things and but he's he's anonymous no one knows. [TS]
01:25:50 ◼ ► but technically no one knows who he is what he looks like he sort of anonymous figure. He has quite a striking. Style. [TS]
01:25:58 ◼ ► One of the things that was going around in London for a while was was spray painting these rats in various locations [TS]
01:26:05 ◼ ► doing various things all over the city. So Londoners might be familiar with having seen them all over the place and. [TS]
01:26:11 ◼ ► One of my favorite things that he did. Mainly because I get to enjoy the benefits of it now. [TS]
01:26:21 ◼ ► Which is done in what's called a brutalist style which is exactly what it sounds like big sheets of concrete. [TS]
01:26:28 ◼ ► Everywhere. Kind of an ugly building and he one night spray painted in gigantic little letters. Boring across. [TS]
01:26:37 ◼ ► One of the very visible sides of this building it's on the South Bank so everybody can see it. [TS]
01:26:46 ◼ ► What they've done is they now have this route heating colored lights. That display all over the building at night time. [TS]
01:26:53 ◼ ► And so every time I see it on the South Bank I think Oh thank you. Banksy. You have improved the skyline. [TS]
01:27:06 ◼ ► No one put up a big piece of glass over the boring and thought oh let's preserve this rather now. [TS]
01:27:13 ◼ ► They got rid of that very fast and then I think. Tried to protect themselves from further. [TS]
01:27:18 ◼ ► Further bank the as Asian say Americans also might be vaguely familiar with him now. [TS]
01:27:29 ◼ ► and basically blitzed New York for a month and every day some new piece of slash creepy T. Slash would have you cola. [TS]
01:27:36 ◼ ► Was appearing the morose in New York and that caused bit of a stir becoming back to dismal and. [TS]
01:27:43 ◼ ► Basically there's a there's a seaside town that we were talking about in the little clip People just heard. [TS]
01:27:58 ◼ ► Still is a real holiday destination but more sort of a faded. Glory seaside town. Why now. [TS]
01:28:05 ◼ ► Are really fond of and I live quite close to it. I go there what the docks. Sometimes. [TS]
01:28:14 ◼ ► Lyda form a sort of outdoor swimming complex that has been shut down the years in years [TS]
01:28:22 ◼ ► and forever they've been talking about what's going to happen to this place so they're going to knock down is someone [TS]
01:28:26 ◼ ► going to buy. Is going to get turned into anything because it was just a derelict building right well yeah. Sort of a. [TS]
01:28:31 ◼ ► But not so much a building because it's quite open because it was a swimming pool and stuff [TS]
01:28:36 ◼ ► but it has buildings to it in a big facade and. There was four walls around a former swimming space. [TS]
01:28:43 ◼ ► Yet in some and somewhere that is the Fed scription. So anyway. About five weeks ago. [TS]
01:28:50 ◼ ► It was just suddenly announced the sort of the dietary before I predicted lake that onion licked a couple of days [TS]
01:28:54 ◼ ► before opened. It was revealed to that Banksy had put together. This sort of exhibition. [TS]
01:29:11 ◼ ► Tickets are really sought after and people came from around the world and everyone wanted to say it. [TS]
01:29:27 ◼ ► and see it in your amazing contact my mazing contacts Yeah you know and I'm even circles. Such as I had been before. [TS]
01:29:38 ◼ ► and you probably saw me talk about on Twitter if you're one of the sort of people and. [TS]
01:29:45 ◼ ► and say how because I just want to ominous know it's a given I thought if we could for the podcast. So we went along. [TS]
01:29:54 ◼ ► There was a massive key as there is every day. But we go in X. Here's another clip here's a clip.. [TS]
01:30:00 ◼ ► After we first gone in and we're inside. It's our first impression. OK. I'm not going to lie. We skip the Q. [TS]
01:30:17 ◼ ► and grazed his head his first side of dismal and he's looking at it now. Grey first impressions. [TS]
01:30:23 ◼ ► This is very interesting. Interesting looking place in a very run down looking. There's a broken. Disney Palace. Style. [TS]
01:30:33 ◼ ► Thing in front of us. If place scary looking. Ride or to a police van. That is stuck in the middle of a pond. [TS]
01:30:41 ◼ ► It is quite the thing to look at when you first come in but where you were you feeling the force. [TS]
01:30:51 ◼ ► Let's look at that the to do so they excel there you go where inside and before we go to this castle. [TS]
01:31:02 ◼ ► I think we need to better explain what this place is growing get a better idea of your first impression now that you [TS]
01:31:13 ◼ ► It's very hard to explain a few people have asked me about it since i was time that I went and. [TS]
01:31:21 ◼ ► I mean I've said that it's like an anti Disneyland. But that doesn't really capture it's. [TS]
01:31:27 ◼ ► It's designed to feel like a depressing Disneyland. Maybe is the best way to put it that the things are run down. [TS]
01:31:47 ◼ ► Everything looks just kind of awful like there is there's posters up everywhere that are torn to pieces. [TS]
01:32:08 ◼ ► and all those sort of things you associate with the famed Yeah so it creates this feeling of conflict where every other [TS]
01:32:18 ◼ ► and we're going to check out all these fun things or oh you know your Coney Island [TS]
01:32:22 ◼ ► But here it's like oh yes there are many things for you to do all of them are kind of terrible. Or an enjoyable. [TS]
01:32:39 ◼ ► It's kind of like an anti same popular parody of a same pack all of the well it's crappiest same pop fifty percent. [TS]
01:32:47 ◼ ► But the other fifty percent I think is more. A parody in a commentary also on kind of British seaside. And newsman. [TS]
01:33:00 ◼ ► Like the big castle with a big crappy car so obviously looks like the Disney castle but falling to pieces [TS]
01:33:10 ◼ ► but there's also you know all the staff of Mickey Mouse ears on yet. But there's also a real parity of just general. [TS]
01:33:16 ◼ ► U.K. A seaside. An easement parks or a few jokes that I think a more I and find that. [TS]
01:33:24 ◼ ► Yes See this is lost on me because I don't I don't have any experience of that yeah you're asking me if I'm deeply [TS]
01:33:45 ◼ ► Yeah those are the uprightness what I meant. Yeah. See. I don't even know. Yeah you know. [TS]
01:33:49 ◼ ► Because like the first whatever call the seaside temple. Brian Brian you would. Yeah. Thought had London. [TS]
01:34:00 ◼ ► but there's also a lot of quite sort of biting political satire in our show we go into the castle that gets to a great [TS]
01:34:07 ◼ ► we were the first thing we did was walk over this moat which is a really terrible muddy moat with rappers [TS]
01:34:18 ◼ ► and we were the first people of the day to walk into the car so because we were first people through the door. [TS]
01:34:22 ◼ ► We went inside and. Well here is another snippet. Come inside the castle with us. Gray. [TS]
01:34:32 ◼ ► What are you looking at the moment. If you like one of the grimmest things I have ever seen. It is. [TS]
01:34:41 ◼ ► It's a big statue that Cinderella. In her pumpkin carriage that's been in a car accident. [TS]
01:34:48 ◼ ► Cinderella is leaning out and she's dead. And there are statues of the paparazzi taking tons of pictures of her. [TS]
01:34:59 ◼ ► And I had to show a guy a good time to this or is just quite an introduction. This really set the stage. [TS]
01:35:08 ◼ ► In some ways and was maximum a motional impacts. Because it's like Oh was this interesting thing. [TS]
01:35:14 ◼ ► And I picked the most depressing thing to explore first just called to me and. Yes this. [TS]
01:35:21 ◼ ► This piece of art which is this Cinderella carriage overturned with the paparazzi is just awful. [TS]
01:35:31 ◼ ► But awful because it fits in perfectly with all of my preconceptions about what is the news like [TS]
01:35:40 ◼ ► Like it was just it was just a homerun on the emotional meter for like like just hit in the perfect way to really get [TS]
01:35:52 ◼ ► to me. It was a perfect sort of merger of. I'm in the obvious Princess Diana. Saying and. [TS]
01:35:57 ◼ ► And the Disney imagery and I kind of marry them together. It sort of set everything they wanted to say in just one. [TS]
01:36:03 ◼ ► One piece of a a lot of the art installations at this price by the way by Banksy himself. [TS]
01:36:11 ◼ ► I'm not sure if that one's him I think someone else might have done that but it was a it. [TS]
01:36:15 ◼ ► I was surprised by how affected you were his name because I'm hot as night was I kind of look at that age thing that [TS]
01:36:26 ◼ ► Yeah well like I said it this just hits all of the right buttons and to me is like. Yeah. [TS]
01:36:34 ◼ ► And there's a whole industry around exploiting tragic things for profit. And it's just. [TS]
01:36:49 ◼ ► and I have a little video clip of it I'll put somewhere that you can see and if you just look at it as a OK well. [TS]
01:36:59 ◼ ► To come upon a thing by surprise when you don't know what it is the bit like spoiler alert. [TS]
01:37:05 ◼ ► when you don't know what it is in advance because you go in it's completely ducking you have no I have no idea what's [TS]
01:37:14 ◼ ► And you sort of walk or you start off behind and you walk around to the front of and then you confronted by the. [TS]
01:37:26 ◼ ► but where the way you enter you don't have an appreciation for what the thing is. Until you walk around it. [TS]
01:37:32 ◼ ► And I think that that's part of the reason it's affective is because like oh you're curious to what is this thing that [TS]
01:37:37 ◼ ► all these photographers are taking pictures of and then you took come around the corner and like oh. [TS]
01:37:46 ◼ ► And they also take your picture before you walk into this are to give it a not you know use together don't you let you [TS]
01:37:56 ◼ ► and did oppose like i told us not knowing what was going on they say oh look at the side and smile. [TS]
01:38:01 ◼ ► And it's like OK well that's kind of weird I guess they want us to take an ironic picture we're not looking at the [TS]
01:38:06 ◼ ► camera. Whatever. And then sort of forget about that but when you leave the castle. [TS]
01:38:10 ◼ ► They then do a photoshop thing where they have the picture of the piece of artwork. [TS]
01:38:18 ◼ ► Looking like you're leaning over the pop Razzi and smiling at this dead Prince. You know thanks. Thanks Disneyland. [TS]
01:38:25 ◼ ► Hope a delightful souvenir. You bought one. There was so well done as I want to remember the things that I bought one. [TS]
01:38:32 ◼ ► Probably took a picture of it so that I would actually have a copy that I would care about [TS]
01:38:35 ◼ ► and then lost the original some point you know. Should give it to me out of luck to. [TS]
01:38:42 ◼ ► I did lose it on purpose I just like. It just disappeared. I actually think it's in your car somewhere. [TS]
01:38:48 ◼ ► So anyway I after that horrible stuff we buy sickly started doing the rounds and looked over the exhibit some in this. [TS]
01:38:59 ◼ ► When I went there was how much stuff was there and how dense it was I was so much to say in look at [TS]
01:39:17 ◼ ► and you're basically babysitting me on this day as I walk around from thing to thing. But yes. It's super dense. [TS]
01:39:28 ◼ ► All of the posters up on the wall is like hundreds of posters big posters tiny posters. [TS]
01:39:34 ◼ ► and so even if you were to try to say read everything that's around it would take you the whole day to read everything [TS]
01:39:43 ◼ ► So this introduction to Disneyland with the dead princess was was quite the thing. [TS]
01:39:48 ◼ ► But then the rest of it is like oh OK this is much more like. As we're moving from place to place. [TS]
01:40:01 ◼ ► They're all they all have a similar theme it all has the same feeling of depressing. [TS]
01:40:13 ◼ ► Or just weird they get it all fits together is pieces but you could feel that OK some of this. [TS]
01:40:18 ◼ ► They're done by different artists. And they're they're trying to get different kind of reactions. Out of you. [TS]
01:40:36 ◼ ► As I know there's just so many things to look at and so many things to see. We were originally actually thinking of. [TS]
01:40:45 ◼ ► but I felt like I can't talk about it like there's just too much. And I feel like I need to process. [TS]
01:40:50 ◼ ► Some of this stuff for later. One of the things that are really noticed particularly the first time I went. [TS]
01:40:58 ◼ ► Not as much the second time but still very much. Was the how many people were taking photos of everything. [TS]
01:41:05 ◼ ► I was really struck look at one point I remember walking around in that be like you know a hundred people [TS]
01:41:10 ◼ ► or Emina felt like every single one of them was looking at of oath through their black rectangle. [TS]
01:41:19 ◼ ► Maybe I'm less used to that because normally galleries you're not supposed to take pictures [TS]
01:41:27 ◼ ► I was amazed by how many people were just like running around snapping everything they could and maybe not stopping [TS]
01:41:36 ◼ ► But that was one of the things that really struck me from my day there was how much people really came just to go crazy [TS]
01:41:43 ◼ ► photographing everything. Oh yeah. And yeah we both took a bunch of pictures of things. [TS]
01:42:00 ◼ ► but it just also a crappy amusement park. And so you're allowed to take pictures of absolutely everything. [TS]
01:42:10 ◼ ► If this is almost too big to talk about here but it's going to the thing was a bit of this feeling of like. [TS]
01:42:16 ◼ ► What is art. You know what I mean. Me on that math really looking at stuff and I feel like. [TS]
01:42:28 ◼ ► There's a huge number of human hours that had been put into this project. This temporary project and. [TS]
01:42:40 ◼ ► And it's but it sounds like you have a thought that's what do you think artists Brady. [TS]
01:42:43 ◼ ► Well that's not the sort of the way I was thinking the question but to think of it. And the way does move them worked. [TS]
01:42:56 ◼ ► He fatty about it but I guess where this is very interesting is normally when you look at your there is the view [TS]
01:43:05 ◼ ► You go as a person you jump into the roller coasters and play the games and throw everything and. [TS]
01:43:15 ◼ ► There was an art gallery off to the side where it was in here was a bit more traditional and where you went [TS]
01:43:18 ◼ ► and looked at some clever art will talk with that minute promptly. When you're out and about in the outdoors pass. [TS]
01:43:27 ◼ ► You didn't know which it was you didn't know whether this was a place for you to sort of. [TS]
01:43:35 ◼ ► or not you were supposed to be thinking like a lot of it was you having the mickey taken out of you with that in some [TS]
01:43:45 ◼ ► and you say some pictures of it because I've you know I'll put some of my pictures up as well. [TS]
01:43:49 ◼ ► But there was this thing called like a selfie how. And it was just like a war where you could stick your head at right. [TS]
01:43:54 ◼ ► And then that and there was a separate healthy to put your arm through with your mobile phone. [TS]
01:43:58 ◼ ► So you could take a selfie. And it's like one of those things where you go to the safe side you put your head through. [TS]
01:44:04 ◼ ► And there's like a painted body and it's funny because your heads on the painted body. [TS]
01:44:08 ◼ ► But the whole purpose of this blank what wall was just to take a selfie of yourself and those to. [TS]
01:44:16 ◼ ► Are there so it was always obviously just a tremendous piss take of acid of Sophie culture. [TS]
01:44:22 ◼ ► And yet person after person after person including me was learning up there than taking a selfie is right. [TS]
01:44:28 ◼ ► And it was like Sophie's crap and this is such a cutting clever way of taking the piss out of people who take selfies. [TS]
01:44:34 ◼ ► And yeah I'm the person standing in it taking the selfie. So it's like you became. [TS]
01:44:46 ◼ ► And you had to go on the Internet for hours and hours and sometimes the Internet collapsed and then [TS]
01:44:51 ◼ ► when you went that you had to queue thousand hours to get in and it was such a miserable experience to get. When. [TS]
01:45:08 ◼ ► Making is do this and we're standing in the laundering it. Like a bunch of idiots. You see that's what. [TS]
01:45:25 ◼ ► when you talk about art as because a bit like really though was that really part of the intention. [TS]
01:45:32 ◼ ► Because there are actually there are the of these like these are glasses that people put on [TS]
01:45:37 ◼ ► and then they lose their mind and everything seems like it's art. Yet and oh this is art that is art. [TS]
01:45:42 ◼ ► The very fact that we're talking about the art is art. And now that we're talking about talking about the art. [TS]
01:45:59 ◼ ► Now maybe it was on purpose maybe it wasn't like I don't know but I don't know it's just like. [TS]
01:46:05 ◼ ► There's something here that just rubs me the really really the wrong way. Like. Partly I really and. [TS]
01:46:18 ◼ ► I really enjoyed the experience of going and seeing this thing I guess interesting thing to do. [TS]
01:46:23 ◼ ► It's all kinds of new stuff I really like this but I just I've been mulling it over the past few days [TS]
01:46:29 ◼ ► and just find myself like grumpy about art. Whenever I think about this thing. In in this. In this way. [TS]
01:46:37 ◼ ► Who are you putting me in a tough position greit against you because I'm an only the one taking your position. [TS]
01:46:42 ◼ ► Because my wife's really into. And we got an odd galleries and I'm normally the grumpy person sigh. [TS]
01:46:47 ◼ ► By this I guess not or saying this is ridiculous this is say easy. I could have done this in might a million dollars. [TS]
01:46:53 ◼ ► And then my wife or I says yeah but you didn't. Yet but the. Yeah but you didn't. IS NOT A is not a counter argument. [TS]
01:47:01 ◼ ► No Well I don't know it works for her. But I know I know you may need. But because like the art world is just so. [TS]
01:47:11 ◼ ► Arbitrary. And who happens to be famous or who doesn't happen to be famous famous it. [TS]
01:47:26 ◼ ► And I like what that was the guy we were talking about the one who's there. Dynas Damien Hirst right OK. [TS]
01:47:32 ◼ ► So this is that this is the guy with his is famous thing where he stuck a shark in a tank of formaldehyde. [TS]
01:47:46 ◼ ► That was a beach ball being blown above a bunch of knives. Michael covering about hovering above them ten. [TS]
01:47:53 ◼ ► On a on a cushion of a will fall on the knives and of course evidence of course it never does right of course not. [TS]
01:47:59 ◼ ► And so we're looking at this thing. And this is when you said to me I go I think this is just. [TS]
01:48:04 ◼ ► This is just taking the piss. That this is this is Damien Hirst not being serious. [TS]
01:48:29 ◼ ► Like there's no objective miss about this that that's what makes our art is like this subjective interpretation. [TS]
01:48:37 ◼ ► But also just find that really frustrating in some way of people looking at a piece of our being like. [TS]
01:48:43 ◼ ► I think this is a. This is Damien Hirst's comment on Damien Hirst's own artwork like oh. Do you. [TS]
01:48:51 ◼ ► I think this is what Damien Hirst thinks. Heaven is like are you right. Am I right. Guess what. None of us are right. [TS]
01:49:00 ◼ ► Because we're just talking about things that are in our own mind. And that perfectly fine. [TS]
01:49:06 ◼ ► Like when I when I was trying to sit down and think about like OK how would I define art. [TS]
01:49:10 ◼ ► The best I could come up with just walking around an hour ago being frustrated here at. [TS]
01:49:17 ◼ ► I think of art is like something that is designed to provoke an emotional response in a person. [TS]
01:49:25 ◼ ► That that's kind of what I came up with for like OK if I have to just rough it here what am I going to say artwork is [TS]
01:49:33 ◼ ► But that makes it just almost impossible to discuss on any level is just so personal that it feels like conversations [TS]
01:49:52 ◼ ► But everybody else looking at that just think oh it's a boring almost completely white painting. And so I don't know. [TS]
01:50:07 ◼ ► Want to reiterate a greatly enjoyed going to do. But yeah. This is just I don't know. [TS]
01:50:13 ◼ ► It's like the grain of sand in my mind that I just irritates me if bothers me. I don't know. [TS]
01:50:19 ◼ ► I've done some interviews and videos over the years with various people who talk about it. [TS]
01:50:28 ◼ ► Say The Godfather something you know the talking about the directors trying to do this that trying to make you think of [TS]
01:50:34 ◼ ► this the trying to get you to think of that and I've spoken to various people about various films [TS]
01:50:43 ◼ ► And they're very smart people and I have they know these films are these bits of I saw these books back to front. [TS]
01:50:48 ◼ ► And I'll tell you all sorts of things that I think the artist of the director of the writer is trying to do. [TS]
01:50:57 ◼ ► Have you have a phone or contacted the director and ask them what that what they were trying to convey. [TS]
01:51:08 ◼ ► when I say that like it is like I've suggested the most shocking to boo thing and I always say. Oh no no that you know. [TS]
01:51:19 ◼ ► They react in this way because you are fundamentally attacking their livelihood. Right. [TS]
01:51:32 ◼ ► Yeah I mean I mean obviously when the artist is dead there's a lot of room for this [TS]
01:51:35 ◼ ► but quite often with contemporary stuff. If you want to know what an artist of a director and and. [TS]
01:51:42 ◼ ► It's often the director wants you to interpret it how you want to interpret it. Well OK fair enough. [TS]
01:51:48 ◼ ► They're entitled to say that but they still must have had something in their head when I made it [TS]
01:51:53 ◼ ► and that's what I want to find out. Well. I wish I could think off the top of my head of an example. [TS]
01:52:00 ◼ ► But I know for a fact with my own videos. I have had people leave comments on them. [TS]
01:52:06 ◼ ► Saying about how how clever This thing is that the G.P. Graded to connect this to that. [TS]
01:52:12 ◼ ► And I read the comment and I think. I didn't do that on purpose. Like this is just something someone's read into it. [TS]
01:52:18 ◼ ► But boy that sounds great like I'm going to run with that sure yeah maybe I did this on purpose. [TS]
01:52:25 ◼ ► And until it really ever finding maining I've got bit of a traditional number far sometimes of. [TS]
01:52:34 ◼ ► Relevant stuff I'm doing something about pi on that night video three minutes fourteen seconds long. [TS]
01:52:43 ◼ ► When I had we ever do and people look at a video that our See what you did with us in this time. [TS]
01:52:48 ◼ ► Usually made a half this number times the square root of this. Plus for our genius I love you always do that and I'm a. [TS]
01:52:55 ◼ ► If you turned it into numerology here doesn't matter what it is people are always going to be able to look at something [TS]
01:53:03 ◼ ► and determine our Yes this is obviously numerically connected it's like well guess what you keep combining numbers. [TS]
01:53:11 ◼ ► And I think that this is the same thing with art with like you know what if you look at something for long enough. [TS]
01:53:16 ◼ ► People will start telling themselves the story about the thing. And the brilliance of the thing. [TS]
01:53:21 ◼ ► My feeling of the are is like. What is my initial emotional response to this. And if there is none. [TS]
01:53:28 ◼ ► Well that I've done this to me. And like a failure at a piece of art work but that doesn't mean that it's a failure. [TS]
01:53:35 ◼ ► Objective Lee. Because there is no objective here in the higher Lee about the reaction inside the person. [TS]
01:53:44 ◼ ► There's one painting that we saw the to talk about and it's vaguely traditional art. [TS]
01:53:51 ◼ ► This got a little bit of an emotional response which was I don't remember if you saw but it was off in the corner [TS]
01:53:57 ◼ ► and white painting of a forest where some lumberjacks had cut down the trees cut down a few of the trees. [TS]
01:54:06 ◼ ► Everything in the painting is black and white. Except the painter has put blood on the top of the stumps. [TS]
01:54:13 ◼ ► And one of the trees in the foreground is is cut in half and the blood on the inside of the tree and on the ground. [TS]
01:54:21 ◼ ► Yeah I thought oh this to me is a successful piece of artwork. I have an emotional reaction to this. [TS]
01:54:37 ◼ ► But nonetheless as a piece of artwork it's like OK. Well done artist. You provoked a room. An emotional response. [TS]
01:54:42 ◼ ► Through some kind of imagery. But I'm sure lots of people could look at that painting and be like now. [TS]
01:54:47 ◼ ► Than do anything for me. I would say I'm a bit different T. I don't necessarily need an emotional. I mean you know. [TS]
01:55:01 ◼ ► As anyone else's expert in this field I can because there is no expertise to be had it's just a subjective. [TS]
01:55:09 ◼ ► There is no it's to be had and I admit I haven't got a lot of knowledge. OK. You can be an art history professor. [TS]
01:55:15 ◼ ► And you can name a lot of people and dates. Yeah. But I just think there isn't. There is no expertise to be. [TS]
01:55:28 ◼ ► I think maybe that's one of my fundamental irritations here is people claiming expertise in a field where there is none [TS]
01:55:41 ◼ ► Telling us what was good and bad or what to think sort of know why you're you know. [TS]
01:55:46 ◼ ► but I don't know what were you saying this was just people putting a bunch of stuff there. [TS]
01:55:54 ◼ ► And you could block it or not like it or laugh or be angry or whatever you could just not think anything [TS]
01:55:59 ◼ ► or you could just go and have fun and go on the Ferris wheel and so yeah. Trust me. The day the day was very enjoyable. [TS]
01:56:07 ◼ ► Vastly worse by an expert in art following us around telling us about things under under talking about like the broader. [TS]
01:56:20 ◼ ► Plot ops to Saddam or lack of it up now at Disneyland there were always outdoor attractions and Ferris wheels [TS]
01:56:27 ◼ ► and games and things like that and sang castles and. Look at pictures and you. You say some of the stuff. [TS]
01:56:32 ◼ ► City interesting to look at after the saw there was this more traditional art gallery with a few sculptures [TS]
01:56:38 ◼ ► and paintings. And it was in there that. That's the more traditional conventional art. They were to. [TS]
01:56:48 ◼ ► Well there were probably about ten things there are a lot but there are two I'll talk about. [TS]
01:56:52 ◼ ► Because they passed my test for what I consider to be that I really like. Now. And those to Tessa. [TS]
01:57:01 ◼ ► Could I have thought of that. Could I have had that idea. Likely that I would have had that idea. And if. [TS]
01:57:09 ◼ ► If it's the end the less likely it is that I would have had that idea. The Mojave I write it. [TS]
01:57:23 ◼ ► So I decide the less likely that I would have had the idea. The more impressed I am. And the second is. [TS]
01:57:30 ◼ ► If I did have that idea. Could I have executed it would I have had the skills or the patients or the time. [TS]
01:57:43 ◼ ► The less likely that is the more highly I write it. And there are two things in particular that were there. [TS]
01:57:49 ◼ ► That scored. Reasonably high. One the first one particularly highly. And I wish I had the artist name. [TS]
01:57:57 ◼ ► I don't I have got the dismal AM program downstairs so it's be unforgivable that I'm not crediting the artist. [TS]
01:58:09 ◼ ► And basically this was someone had the idea that obviously we're looking at frozen food packaging. [TS]
01:58:15 ◼ ► And then obviously been looking at for a while and obviously unfrozen for packaging the food can look look look good [TS]
01:58:21 ◼ ► but I always have little bits of green Ganesh then I quite often they'll have done some frozen were Sanya. [TS]
01:58:27 ◼ ► And to make it look good on the box will have some little sprig of parsley or something. [TS]
01:58:36 ◼ ► and I maybe even hundreds of boxes of frozen third empty boxes. And I like. They cut out all of these bits of Ganesh. [TS]
01:58:48 ◼ ► And then make them sit up off the books I'll append the map of the books like it was a little plot. [TS]
01:58:53 ◼ ► Growing off the box. And then they put them all into these planter pots. And I made this huge installation. [TS]
01:59:00 ◼ ► Which looks like a whole bunch of potted plants of little bits of possibly a little bits of grain re crying up out of [TS]
01:59:05 ◼ ► these parts. But still attached to the frozen food boxes. So you could tell what I will coming off. [TS]
01:59:14 ◼ ► And I thought it was brilliantly executed it looked amazing and I just sat looking at it [TS]
01:59:18 ◼ ► and so that was one thing I looked at and so up. Could see a out and up call it what you want. [TS]
01:59:26 ◼ ► And like it was one of the things I couldn't wait to show you because I was so look at that Gray. Are like that. [TS]
01:59:31 ◼ ► You definitely want to show it to me. And this. Even this violates my already flimsy definition of art. [TS]
01:59:37 ◼ ► Because this didn't invoke any emotional response in me. I just I was clever. I like to look at this thing. [TS]
01:59:46 ◼ ► So the other one I quite liked. You quite liked as well. And I'm not going to steal your thunder. [TS]
01:59:52 ◼ ► But let's go to another one of our little audio clips. So that people can hear us talking about about it in situ. [TS]
02:00:06 ◼ ► Part of dismal and there's like an area off to the sought an art gallery for the paintings and sculptures and things [TS]
02:00:13 ◼ ► and in a moment we're at this giant Dyer Rama of a of a city with these incredible police presence [TS]
02:00:20 ◼ ► and there are blue lights flashing everywhere it's kind of. Why would you describe this guy. [TS]
02:00:27 ◼ ► I was going to shank to buy the fact that there's someone doing graffiti of Maxwell's equations on the little board [TS]
02:00:32 ◼ ► over here it is very detailed but yes it is like a disco be in rundown. City with police everywhere. [TS]
02:00:39 ◼ ► You would expected to be model trains this look like a model train set up but there are no trains. [TS]
02:00:44 ◼ ► There are just police earlier. There is a helicopter up there. I'm assuming it's a police helicopter. [TS]
02:00:51 ◼ ► It's pretty cold it's it was a little model town. It was a huge moto tab. I was happy to say. [TS]
02:01:01 ◼ ► I'm looking to figure out why they use the word little it was huge. It was in a big room. It was out of maybe like six. [TS]
02:01:09 ◼ ► Billiard tables in size roughly from try to think about lining stuff arguing that around that's [TS]
02:01:14 ◼ ► but that's a probably a good. A good analogy. The ballpark that's within twenty percent. Maybe of the size. [TS]
02:01:22 ◼ ► But this was just a thing the home really liked the. The setting of the room was really good with the room. [TS]
02:01:27 ◼ ► Being really dark so all the light was coming from the little town itself. And like a tyrant or basically wasn't there. [TS]
02:01:34 ◼ ► I spent the most time. Just looking around this thing. And examining all the little details of it this was probably my. [TS]
02:01:51 ◼ ► But in terms of like oh boy I could spend a lot of time looking at this. I enjoy the little town and. [TS]
02:01:59 ◼ ► You're looking around it becomes obvious that there's a there's the artist in their mind had some story of what's going [TS]
02:02:06 ◼ ► on in this town so it's not just police cars everywhere. But as you look around you can see of. OK. [TS]
02:02:12 ◼ ► There's there's action going on over here but there's guys in radiation suits over here moving mysterious containers. [TS]
02:02:20 ◼ ► And there's a like a big pit in the ground the police are examining it there's some notion of a thing that is happening. [TS]
02:02:27 ◼ ► You get the idea like an unusual event has occurred in this town. And all of the police are out in force. [TS]
02:02:38 ◼ ► and thousands of police in this town where there are no by see that providing thing is flashing blue lights. [TS]
02:02:50 ◼ ► You did cut back at us us sort of you could have a little bit of schoolboy fascination Didn't you for that one. [TS]
02:03:04 ◼ ► Yes it did and we happen to be talking about trains that's on the way up so was a nice nice coincidence for the day. [TS]
02:03:09 ◼ ► The reason I didn't spend more time looking at brings me to one of my the little bullet points about the day. [TS]
02:03:15 ◼ ► Which is there was grumpy staff. Assuring us along. This dire Omma Yeah. And all of the staff. Throughout dismal land. [TS]
02:03:28 ◼ ► Were grumpy staff was deliberately grumpy. Yes this is on purpose. Rude and grumpy. Obviously this was. [TS]
02:03:37 ◼ ► This is what they were getting paid for is to be rude and grumpy and disrespectful to everybody who's there. [TS]
02:03:46 ◼ ► And while I would say the dire I'm a was my favorite thing. At Disneyland. The staff was by far and away. [TS]
02:04:04 ◼ ► It did provoke a strong emotional response for me. Which was a response of danger. [TS]
02:04:12 ◼ ► And I meant to mention this to this to you on the day but it just didn't come up that. [TS]
02:04:26 ◼ ► and then in about one second I realize oh no wait. I'm not dealing with a normal human being I'm dealing with an actor. [TS]
02:04:38 ◼ ► And a mask that gives them permission to do things that are outside of the social norms. [TS]
02:04:48 ◼ ► It was like this emotional wall just slammed down in my brain. And all of my hairs stood up on edge. [TS]
02:04:56 ◼ ► In the way like you are a dangerous person. Because you're like a person wearing a mask. [TS]
02:05:04 ◼ ► And that makes people dangerous like I'm not really dealing with you. I'm dealing with some artifice. [TS]
02:05:12 ◼ ► And it just made me think of the clowns insert to Soul A which I have the same reaction to of like you are not a person. [TS]
02:05:27 ◼ ► I kept having these very very negative emotional feelings every time the staff. Spoke to me. It was just. [TS]
02:05:35 ◼ ► I kept forgetting because they weren't visually. Wearing something like a clown costume or. You know they like. [TS]
02:05:42 ◼ ► They just look like normal people but every time it was like Oh right you are dangerous. I need to be on the defense. [TS]
02:05:48 ◼ ► Sieve. Around every single one of you staff. Because you cannot be trusted when you are humans. Acting out a role. [TS]
02:05:57 ◼ ► You're not humans. Acting as humans. That's funny because I understand what you meant. [TS]
02:06:03 ◼ ► And there is a huge There is a degree of where is this. But I almost the exact opposite. [TS]
02:06:08 ◼ ► Like for me that it empowered information makes me feel you're a person I can play with. [TS]
02:06:22 ◼ ► I get that as a game and I can play this game too so I actually quite enjoyed the banter with them. [TS]
02:06:33 ◼ ► But the first day I went I quite enjoyed engaging with them and. And playing the game and. [TS]
02:06:39 ◼ ► And maybe being rude back or maybe plagued bumbling for Bakken things up so I understand why you would say that [TS]
02:06:46 ◼ ► but I took something positive from a i i get i would call art but I enjoyed the game I enjoyed. [TS]
02:06:54 ◼ ► I enjoyed the playfulness. Certainly more than clowns clowns can be a bit weird. Humans in masks are not to be trusted. [TS]
02:07:02 ◼ ► I guarantee you that if you had a sensor hooked up to me which was an adrenaline surge detector. [TS]
02:07:09 ◼ ► One second after you a member of staff spoke to me that adrenaline surge. Detector would be going off. [TS]
02:07:20 ◼ ► Quite busy had an upgrade when we went there was that we always had the place to ourself and just as we were leaving. [TS]
02:07:26 ◼ ► That started ramming them in your action to queue up to to see if you things but I think we got pretty lucky. [TS]
02:07:31 ◼ ► Yeah we were incredibly lucky on the day. And yes by the. By the time we left it was just jam packed with people just. [TS]
02:07:39 ◼ ► Genuinely genuinely a dismal and. Anyway his I laugh at a bit of audio. I think we're kind of. [TS]
02:07:49 ◼ ► I think we're pretty much coming to the end of every is that this is probably going to last of a in-situ recordings to [TS]
02:08:01 ◼ ► I'm very glad I came out to see it's very glad I came out to see if the last thing that we saw the little town was my [TS]
02:08:07 ◼ ► favorites I feel they were leaving on a high. Because we started on one hell of a low with with the car wreck. [TS]
02:08:16 ◼ ► So it was a little town which was like a little mystery about what happened in the town a while the police are there. [TS]
02:08:23 ◼ ► And I'm very glad that I came up to see this and then you believe me into it Brady. [TS]
02:08:32 ◼ ► We then went to real Weston super Mare did when walked along the pier was all very romantic. Yes. Yes we had a. [TS]
02:08:38 ◼ ► We had a lovely a lovely day. When into a mere a maze together. Rest GO CATS. So he raced go karts together. It was. [TS]
02:08:47 ◼ ► It was very fun yet quite a crash. Not that bad a crash get him on a crash and. I would say it was a crash really. [TS]
02:08:54 ◼ ► It was there were a lot of cost your position it did cost me a position. You did very well in the go karting. [TS]
02:09:00 ◼ ► I know I just played it safe. Itis I guess I just sat out in front and didn't do anything. [TS]
02:09:05 ◼ ► I thought we would just have fun driving the go karts around. But as soon as they started. [TS]
02:09:12 ◼ ► I could feel the competition just read to Max in my brain is like I have got a. I've got a B. Brady. And of course. [TS]
02:09:22 ◼ ► It's almost impossible to change for you and less the person in front makes in the state. [TS]
02:09:31 ◼ ► Did I buy flowers it felt like I might about you flowers I can't remember if last you came in for Audrey. [TS]