00:00:00 ◼ ► look at that posh classy drinking water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:16 ◼ ► with my twenty percent bigger Pepsi's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/16">TS</a>]
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00:00:25 ◼ ► nothing but an infinite well of patience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/25">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► infinite well of patients you are quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/30">TS</a>]
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00:00:37 ◼ ► think you have more patient person than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► me in general you have to be gentle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► me today because I have been very sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► for the last week and a half stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/42">TS</a>]
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00:00:55 ◼ ► how sick of bein little I went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► doctor say this only means something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► because i know you and I know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► seem to have some sort of stubbornness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► about going to the doctor when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/65">TS</a>]
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00:01:12 ◼ ► is it called being dumped I go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/72">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► doctor when i'm sick if I think I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► to go to the doctor I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► this reluctance to go to the doctor this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/77">TS</a>]
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00:01:21 ◼ ► to go to the doctor when does one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► need to go to the doctor this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/83">TS</a>]
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00:01:32 ◼ ► close to death okay see that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► cutting it too close braiding I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► ninety-nine percent of the time when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/98">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► go to the doctor they just say our go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► away and come back in a week if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► still sick and I and that happens to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► all the time and then I go away for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► weekend in a week or so I get better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► so I never go back so i I just I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► going to the doctor because I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► ik yeah you're a bit sick but come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/114">TS</a>]
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00:02:06 ◼ ► normal cold i won't go to the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/126">TS</a>]
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00:02:11 ◼ ► if it lasts longer than it seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► normal cold should then you go to the dr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► abdullah great you don't go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/136">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► doctor if you wake up and you go with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► little stiffly today let me see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/138">TS</a>]
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00:02:26 ◼ ► yeah to to be the when do you need to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/146">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► how's this though I went to the GPA and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► I went into that went into the room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► then she said okay what's wrong and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► had a few other little things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► ongoing things that I thought this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► chance to bring them up things i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► had gone to the doctor but I thought oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► you know kill a few birds with one stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/165">TS</a>]
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00:02:54 ◼ ► 10 minutes and I'm already running like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/174">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► how's that for care what if I was dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► depending on what you go in there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► they might decide that you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/181">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► yeah yeah you need you need to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► doctor you never know what it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► know it might be you might think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► just have a regular flu but then you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► to the doctor and you find out oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► might have you might have died from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► that's the kind of scaremongering that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► makes people go to the doctor too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► i'm not scare mongering this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► scaremongering and this is also this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► for the for the triage thing right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► have a quick meeting with the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► they're just trying to determine always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► something more serious or less serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/209">TS</a>]
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00:03:34 ◼ ► the time that it's something less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► seriously than ninety percent the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► that it's something less serious it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► if everyone who went into the doctor had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/220">TS</a>]
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00:03:47 ◼ ► majority of the time it should come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► you're fine but you're there to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► the freak occurrences that could kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► yeah this is good advice people follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► cries and vast variety is it is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/236">TS</a>]
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00:04:10 ◼ ► antibiotics because basically I was told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► to get antibiotics go to the doctor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► get antibiotics so that was my whole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/255">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► maybe you doing everything in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/260">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► that's infuriating so you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/261">TS</a>]
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00:04:28 ◼ ► only take antibiotics at the dr things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► that you should you don't believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► doctor into this I basically said if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► don't give me antibiotics today I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► probably gonna get divorced and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► laughed and said I've never heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► antibiotics i don't i don't want them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/280">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► don't care i was just trying to grease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/286">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► antibiotics then I am so you so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► don't even think you need them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► you're taking man and I i do your part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/293">TS</a>]
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00:04:59 ◼ ► been sick for too long and and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► think the doctor would have given them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► to you if you hadn't turned on the Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/303">TS</a>]
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00:05:08 ◼ ► I think she gave them cuz she thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► needed them you know she looked at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► and lived in my throat and said I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► sick and I told her you know I told a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► story but another habit of my know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► will probably infuriate you is whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► I go to the doctor and get prescribed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► whatever I'm is needed i almost feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/322">TS</a>]
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00:05:29 ◼ ► all the medicine and doing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► things the doctor said it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/331">TS</a>]
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00:05:35 ◼ ► you're sick and this is what you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/335">TS</a>]
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00:05:42 ◼ ► those pills for a week and a half his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/342">TS</a>]
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00:06:07 ◼ ► this exactly but that's not what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/367">TS</a>]
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00:06:32 ◼ ► finish your course of antibiotics Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► should do i need to pester you about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/394">TS</a>]
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00:06:59 ◼ ► you that would cause you to be ill for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/419">TS</a>]
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00:07:02 ◼ ► currently at home from work from exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/422">TS</a>]
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00:07:11 ◼ ► and so that's how I feel about you break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/431">TS</a>]
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00:15:19 ◼ ► people should pause the podcast and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► the whole book now or because sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► people do that are we gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/923">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► spoiler tastic is this is just one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/924">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► those cases or do you think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► well my thought is this is a bit like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► Brian there be spoilers i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► there can really be spoilers for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/935">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► nonfiction situation ya like it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► essentially kind of a history book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► and if we get to the second topic we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/945">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► will discuss the possibility of spoilers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► in a nonfiction situation but it but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/948">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► general I think a book that is about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/949">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► yeah okay so what is if someone wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► stop and go read Guns Germs and Steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► now you can pause the podcast if you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► like is a long book and it is a I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► at times overly detailed book but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/966">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► know you go you go for man if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► want to but we'll talk about it we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/973">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► talk about what's in the book now so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► think if you haven't read it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/976">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► still enjoy the conversation because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► will try to sum it up as we go along a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► little bit i agree with that i create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► spoiling where it i'm listening to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► unabridged version and looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► scroll by here it looks like i am nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► halfway through I'm not qualified to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► talk about as a whole but I listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► so how have you been finding it reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► this is not the harrowing experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► that getting things done was where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► actually went so far as to get my money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► back for this one because that was held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► that was that was how much I felt what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► my dislike for that book and the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► was written this has not been the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► and I would go so far as to say I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► mmm i think the guy reading the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► not the author does a very good job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► interesting but I but it is not without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► if i have to say i have never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► someone say the terms hunter-gatherer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► and food production so many times in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► such a short space of time like to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► point where I'm like say how together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► one more time say hun together one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► yeah because it does get it does get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► very repetitive at times and it made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► wish that maybe the author could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► expanded his vocabulary just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► sake of variety because it does get very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► repetitive times I before I talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► the content because I think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► you really want to talk about but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► more about the actual book itself just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► it was it's very least tastic it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► this and there always seems to be lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► within lists like he'll say so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► probably wondering you know why cows eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► grass where there are seven reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► let me tell you the number one number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► two number three number four number five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► Number six number seven and as I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► talk about later in chapter 34 there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► another nine reasons that they eat green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► grass and while i will go into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► later let me tell you those nine reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► and that said these things to be lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► breaking out of lists and there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► of a lot of that going on which I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► see really appealing to you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► because you know we all know you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► like lists and at times you do find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► yourself thinking oh my goodness I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► cannot believe I'm listening just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► much talk about we crops flex and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► don't nobody know exactly what a pulse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► is I can kind of guess but and so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► times you have it seems like on my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► that he's talking about the most boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► repetitiveness in the list is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► quite well written it'sit's kept a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► layman's level which i think is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► quite easy because it's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► pretty basic stuff like you know herding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► cows and sailing to other countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► think that would appeal to you by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► way I know that you have criticisms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► the writing of the books i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► literature but i can see why it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► appeal to you because I mean I I joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► around about getting things done and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► it's like you know productivity porn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► I think you're quite you know you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► organization and productivity and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► so getting things done with a purity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► in some ways the whole thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► I call that productivity mega porn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► because this isn't just about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► being productive this is about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► productivity and organization of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► the whole planet so i can just say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► guys are making this is an amazing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► can't believe it they're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► talking about organizing a workday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► populations are organized and why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► world's so for you i can see why this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► like right in the sweet spot em yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► next time you tell me you think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► funny that I can sit and watch a game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► darts I will pull out this block and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► let me talk to you a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► flax and pulses i think that is grossly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► unfair comparison everyone's interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► everyone's interested in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► things so anyway so so as a as a read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► is it out as as a book it is sometimes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► well this is like this is pretty amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► and pretty tedious and then but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► despite the repetitiveness and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► is very it's very approachable land and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► it's very well argued it's it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► we're even when sometimes you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► you're wrong because your arguments are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► so well thought out and I've been sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► of pre-planned like they're very they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► very well fortress and your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► arguments are very with like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► answers to most questions and like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► when I think you're wrong you're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► hard to argue because you're so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► prepared for the battle and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► this book is like even though i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► some of the things that are wrong it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► very strategically well done and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► becomes hard to to say exactly why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► yeah he's a bit overly prepared that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► interesting book by no means bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► no means do I think that everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► it is right but he definitely comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► the table with a bunch of stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► think it's later in the book but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► section that always stuck with me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► there is a point at which he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► through every example of how human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► writing has ever come into existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► like every society that has ever come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► with writing and I remember the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► time I read the book like I believe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► okay like I believe your theory about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► human writing please don't make me read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► one more like I've read enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► knots vs cuneiform vs writing verses you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► know when does it come up on its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► when is it distributed through other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► people like I just let me just move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► to the next thing I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► probably an advantage of an audio book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► isn't it because sometimes when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► there on the page and you can see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► coming and you see what's gone before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► those sections can seem quite tedious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► but when you're listening and you sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► of forgotten what he's already said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► you don't know what he's going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► you can be in the middle of one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► kind of patches of quicksand and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► it will stay in some ways an audiobook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► kind of spares you the the worst of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► because you can't just live ur rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► so in closing before we talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► i I don't know finisher but I feel quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► comfortable recommending it like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► like i would say if this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► go ahead and did win the Pulitzer Prize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► didn't as well so it's not like I'm it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► not like we've pulled one out of left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► field here for people this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► reading books bit of a big deal i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► been fascinated for years about the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► of meta argument that takes place on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► internet about this book and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► talking on this message before a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► bit and I said that like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► book that launched a thousand arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► at like a thousand argument threads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► across the internet like it people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► argue about this book all the time in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► way that I find very interesting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► here's here's what i would say is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► like the thumbnail overview of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► argument in in Guns Germs and Steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► because germs and steel is arguably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► vastly over simplifying all of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► society and now i am going to vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► over simplify the very argument itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► the book is setting out to answer how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► it that Europeans ended up conquering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► the whole world and Europeans ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► with all of the stuff that allowed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► to conquer the whole world i like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► why did the europeans have ships why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► why did they have all of this technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► and then why were they the ones who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► able to spread all over the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► like why is it that when the Europeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► arrived in north america that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► weren't faced with American Indians at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► the same level of technological progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► ships didn't meet in the Atlantic where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► we're human societies had had developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► at the same rates and it right they bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► into each other in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► Atlantic oh my oh my how are you how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► it doesn't that's not the way it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► down like the guy who believes in a note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► alternative universe and there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► rocket to fly there and then when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► doesn't he crashes into a rocket coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► the other way her friends yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► that's not the way human society then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► there's nothing human society were yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► uh he could have just written chapter 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► because someone had to be first the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► what's that like that is a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► legitimate answer cracking it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► know of course someone's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► first how could someone not be first it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► would be quite remarkable if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► wasn't first if everybody was exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► yeah and i like that that would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► would be astounding which we can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► then relate this the same conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► two space-faring civilisation is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► maybe it's like it's like the star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► universe of where everybody every alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► technology like that is shockingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► unlikely that someone has to be way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► yeah so what he lays out in the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► he's he is talking about the starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► when roughly speaking humans had spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► to everywhere they were going to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► the face of the earth and they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► at roughly the same level of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► of basic stone tools and then says okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► his argument is fundamentally that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► environments are more beneficial to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► huh some places are just going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► I mean I have this guy jared diamond and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► mr. hindsight and mr. obvious and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► think that first argument is he wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► mmm yeah well see like when I read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► book it's gonna sound dumb but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► know I went through history classes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► high school and it was remarkable to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► description of things like history class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► was like this big long list of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► that happened and one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► you can't help but notice is like man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► the UK is just dominating in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► history game they have empires right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► it's like the UK and then is the Dutch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► and the French like this this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► cluster of places has taken over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► absolutely everywhere and I'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► really sure that when I was younger like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► it occurred to me to wonder like why was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► this the case like I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► some ways when you just grow up going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► through history class or you grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► sometimes don't think to ask questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► at all it's just like oh of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► Europe took over the world because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► that's what they taught me in school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► like it never even occurred to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► think that something else could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► supposedly the alternate question why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► isn't it that Africa conquered the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► world and brought European slaves to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► okay yeah that's an interesting question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► like what why didn't that occur or for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► example the thing that my video was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► focusing on which was the question that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► really struck me which an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► question never asked which is why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► Europeans get sick from Native American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► diseases if the Native Americans got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► sick from European diseases i get just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► never occurred to me as a kid to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► that because you're always told the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► story in the context of like and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► Europeans came and the Native Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► got sick from their diseases like and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► keep moving along and you just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► that's why the book kind of struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► when I was a bit younger was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► didn't think to ask these questions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► so the bot the bottom line of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► argument is just some places are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► beneficial to human societies and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► once you start down the road of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► more food and settling down and building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► self-sustaining self-feeding process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► that your city's get bigger you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► higher population density you can then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► develop more technology if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► citizens who are free from the burden of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► producing food and this just spirals up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► and spirals up and spirals up and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► that a relatively even just a relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► minor advantage in the beginning can end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► up becoming something that makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► difference of like two centuries worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► of technological process progress by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► time societies meet you think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► fair from what you've read so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► yeah i tell you i think yeah basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► saying little bit of luck it'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► fairy dust and lucky star and you win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► the example I often like to use is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► as though the earth is a very unfairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► designed board game and your starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► advantage and like Australia is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► worst place in the world to start and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► Eurasia is probably the best place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► that's what books trying to say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► well I mean you just set in five few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► sentences but anyway yeah it wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► a book otherwise i guess it wouldn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► wouldn't be a book otherwise but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► statement ends up becoming like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► remarkably controversial thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► these huge arguments over Guns Germs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► Steel for what I agree with you as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► think in many ways to me seems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► retrospect like a fairly obvious kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► argument that just never occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► when I was younger like of course some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► places are better for humans to thrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► and others like that like that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► europeans ended up taking over because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► Europe was easy i get i guess one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► things that comes across in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► that I hadn't thought about quite so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► much was if if you told me that the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► like you know that the the dice are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► loaded all the board was ring I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► okay um you know this obviously whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► it's obvious you know obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► climate you know what your climate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► like is pretty important as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► lives in England and sees all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► rolling green hills 24 days 365 days a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► year whatever and and then when i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► Australia is a barren desert right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► look I look into KY k well you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► the thing I guess I hadn't thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► quite so much was how loaded dice were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► when it comes to animals that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► strongest thing I've seen in the book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► far as he say the best natural resource [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► advantage that the generations had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► they got lucky with animals and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► else got unlucky with animals right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► that to me is probably one of the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► features of the book is is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► happens you can see how others but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► there's nice places everywhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► world I think it's not like Europe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► just uniformly perfect for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► everyone's got gold and everyone's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► oil and some people have diamonds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► some people have this some people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► that but he's basically saying animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► and plants is where it was at and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► yeah he runs through the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► make plant species and animal species [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► susceptible to human use in order to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► domesticated animals have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► bunch of characteristics which when and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► this is where your lists and lists you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► know begins because he could he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► through all of this stuff with plants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► and animals again I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► interesting to go through all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► details it's far too much to go into for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► this podcast but I mean just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► basically like you don't don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► think about it but for domesticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► animals you need a couple things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► broadly speaking you need animals that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► are big enough to be useful and so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► if you domesticate chinchillas they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► not going to be pulling plows for you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► a farm right you need a big animal you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► need animals that are big but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► animals that are not unpredictable or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► violence which is what is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► problem for Africa like Africa has times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► of big animals all of them are horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► to work with and I like hippos her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► dangerous than you think they are or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► runs through all the examples about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► zebras vs horses they look the same but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► zebras are bastards right and horses are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► great to work with because they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► bunch of inbuilt characteristics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► haven't I haven't got to this yet gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► obviously you've got all these nightmare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► animals in places like Africa or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► paucity of animals in other places and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► then Europe's call you know you do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► cows and shape and are you treating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► does he get messy later on in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► explain why Africa is full of badass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► animals and Europe's full of ghosts our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► dummies or is that just luck at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► point in the book he talks about and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► think this is really interesting is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► if you go back lots of continents used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► to actually have many more large docile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► animals and there's some really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► funny examples from australia with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► these mega marsupials yea big large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► yeah and North America had the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► same thing i like big large mammals but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► that when basically because humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► developed their hunting skills like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► they went along humans arrived in north [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► and australia and the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► like with really great hunting skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► already right so we're able to out hunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► a lot of the local population and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► like when when they arrived there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► like okay great animals that have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► ever seen humans that have no reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► avoid humans collide with a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► immigration of into North America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► hunters with big pointy Spears which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► why africa so full of badass animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► because bright ideas and assets could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► see could survive we're trying big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► yes and so he goes through that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► basically around 10,000 BC there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► huge number of megafauna extinctions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► everywhere that humans have just arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► for the with the exclusion of right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► eurasia and africa because humans were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► already there and animals have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► used to them to some extent yeah so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► that's the idea of arguments like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► it's it's that humans caused this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► situation to be the case but even if so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► here's one of these things like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► love to argue with all the details in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► Guns Germs and Steel like did humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► cause the megafauna extinction or did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► extinction to me that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► relevant like let's let's say that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► part of the argument turns out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► false like people find out Omega Pharma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► extinction didn't happen because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► yeah okay well it doesn't matter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► you should still expect that somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► they're going to happen to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► plants and animals that are useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► how could how could it be otherwise if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► you have a sum like a semi-random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► distribution of useful animals across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► yeah but when that applies to this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► book crime in this whole book is based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► on digging down into something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► probably don't need to dig down into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► anymore but he does for the intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► exercise over so you can't just say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► like saying the British Empire was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► because they had booked boats why did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► have good boats are modern because i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► good word for example why did they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► good wood because they had a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► climber why do they have a good climate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► well now look at what point do you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► why you got a good climate are because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► you further north wires further north [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► at what point do you stop asking what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► it's like a little kid that just has why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► to every single Indian tell them that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► what this book is like this was his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► attitude to history is like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► the Europeans you know dominated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► world why because they invaded the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► why because they went because I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► to and I wanted more land and wealth why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► when they got there why do they why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► what'd you just keep asking why and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► he keeps answering while the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► eventually he's going to come unstuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► isn't it right eventually going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► to a point that has to just be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► assumption about the world yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► which is we assume that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► animals some of which are more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► useful to humans like well like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► a ground to start assumption and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► can also assume that the distribution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► these things is not going to be equal it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► would be shockingly unlikely for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► be equal and so that means some place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► has to be better for humans than some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► other place like noticed by definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► and still do you always have to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► some kind of fundamental little moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► I mean going through a bit of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► I've encountered I think sometimes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► guilty of simplifying things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► think are very very complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► other times I think it's guilty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► complicating things that I think are far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► more simple i agree but as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► knows has read the whole book for a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► and also has followed some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► arguments around em what asked what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► the big bones of contention not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► minutiae like you know I disagree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► that was how we eat was domesticated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► whatever one of the big controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► topics here one of the one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► things here is where I need to like show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► my hand a little bit about some some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► my thoughts the way were you Brady you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► want me to look at let me let people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► know what I think about a movie before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► we start talking about it yeah so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► i agree with you there are many faults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► with the book and the reason we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► talking about it now is because i made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► this America box video recently because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► i took a a section of that of Guns Germs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► and Steel the section about why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► the Europeans get sick from Native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► American diseases and I made a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► video about it because I think that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► art and also this is I have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► limited repertoire of questions to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► people at dinner parties to try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► interesting conversations going and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► is one of these little questions that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► like to bring up and I find almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► universally that the person i'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► across from has the same reaction that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► idea of-of oh you know I never thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► about that why didn't the Europeans get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► sick so I took that little section and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► made the video about it and its people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► have been sending me all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► about like oh it's a real shame that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► didn't know about the criticisms of Guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► Germs and Steel before you made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► video but the thing is i had read all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► those criticisms there is on read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► like a series of very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► articles where someone goes through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► book chapter by chapter i can point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► all of what they view as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► contradictions or the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► diamond says that are clear that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► person says are unclear and it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► through it step by step by step by step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► and i had read all of those things and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► also agree with most of the criticisms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► look like I'm not going to argue with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► professional historian when they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► like oh x historical event occurred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► jared diamond like skimmed over it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► help i'll take them at their word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► that like your professional historian I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► have no reason to disagree with you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► the thing that I find interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► valuable in Guns Germs and Steel that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► almost never see the critics argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► against is the theory that the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► presents the Guns Germs and Steel to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► gives a very simple but very basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► theory of history it's a theory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► only operates on very long time scales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► and over continent-sized human divisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► but it is still nonetheless a theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► because i think it it makes if not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► testable prediction it it makes a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► you can ask about the world where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► can say look if we were to rewind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► clock and play history again what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► you expect would happen and the Guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► Germs and Steel answer is that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► you're Asia the whole of Eurasia is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► susceptible to human technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► flourishing let's say you should expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► eighty percent of the time that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► first to colonial technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► happens in your asia right and maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► know ten percent of the time it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► in Africa and then like five percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► the hop time it happens in north america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► and like one percent of the time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► happens in Australia but not not that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► could never happen but it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► extraordinary unlikely and so that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► is the interesting thing is this theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► of history and so in many ways like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► can i agree with tons of the criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► about the particulars in the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► tons of the the details that jared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► diamond gets wrong because jared diamond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► is not a professional historian he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► archived should look it up before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► started using the college just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► blurt expert at one point wasn't using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► to build yeah he's he's worked in papua [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► new guinea and yeah he's cataloging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► birds f for the thing it's that personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► criticism that irritates me about Jared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► Diamond it seems to just totally loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► yes to what you would expect for any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► impartial out of ivory is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► yeah is it and it irritates me I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► highlighted in the beginning of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► even goes for like a little tangent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► about how like let me explain to you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► papua new guineans are more intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► than average human being is like oh come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► on man like one of the fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► theses of your book is that human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► intelligence is not different everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► but you're still going to take a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► a little side moment about how Papa New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► Guinea is like an exception to the rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► okay whatever yeah but so that that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► me is is the value of this book and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► I think that is very interesting but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► this then trips in historians into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► idea that like you cannot say geography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► is destiny like historians are very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► very strongly against this idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► reasons that I i find difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► understand and every time I get into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► argument or icy arguments that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► place over the book what usually happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► is just just as so many of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► like different sides are arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► different things like I want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► conversation about what is the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► state of the theory of history like has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► much progress been made about the theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► of history but then historian wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► argue with me about why was it Spain who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► was the first to Mesoamerica and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► and why did spain lose their lead to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► united kingdom and my view is always ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► but that's too small like you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► continent levels here not not particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► cut like this is not meant to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► why a particular country came about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► it's only here to give you an estimation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► of what is the likelihood that people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► a particular continent will be the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► to colonize the world that that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► you know I just can't help thinking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► I thought the social time as well I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► been listening to the book and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► even more now listening to you talk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► how is this different from two guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► the bar talking about sports like it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► sounds like two guys arguing over y1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► football team is better than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► if we play the super bowl again with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► team win this time did it all come down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► to that one play and mistake or was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► team always destined to win because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► had these players and it sounds like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► sounds like sport like and if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► to rake over and and great over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► ashes of history and talk about why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► these people win and why those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► I know you can use this argument about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► how we learn lessons for the future but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► i don't think there's a lot to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► learned for the future about this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► of stuff anymore i think we've moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► from it just seems like it seems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► arguing about sport and I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► problem with that by the way because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► really love arguing about sport so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► finally found that history people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► sit there and argue over what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► spanish that went to Mesoamerica and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► here's me going to try to reach and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► a sports metaphor or just click you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► correct me gently if I'm wrong here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► well i will talk about sports and a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► that i haven't read the whole thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► know about which is Moneyball yes I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► my understanding is that money ball is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► the description of how statistics was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► yeah i'm not mistaken yes for selecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► the teams and thinking about the players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► not as individual people but as machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► with particular batting averages in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► particular situation right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► Moneyball was about being able to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► together an effective team in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► was surprising to existing coaches yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► and in some way like i always feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► argument with historians it is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► like this where it's almost like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► so overblown because he hasn't done the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► same thing but jared diamond is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► like the money ball four continents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► right he's looking at the stats and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► like your ages and amazing continent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► doesn't mean you're asia is going to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► every time I guess like a 20 points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► it gets 5 animal points and I get right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► but you can still score it and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► can i can very easily imagine an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► alternate universe where we are instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► living in a world where the Aborigines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► got lucky right and they and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► the first colonial technology and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► yeah anything that well they had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► Einstein character that just came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► tremendous luck or actually what i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► is a great counter example is I mean man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► if you look at if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► numbers for the black death like what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► think of as the plague this plague that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► struck europe in the 1300 the Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► this downing I guess the worst plague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► the the estimates are at a minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► thirty percent at a maximum sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► percent of the population died in Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► in the 1300 let's just say it was 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► conversation and it's amazing to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► Europe came back from that like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► hell of a setback to have half your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► population died and i can imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► version of the world where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► okay let's take the black death but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► let's increase the virality ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and the lethality ten percent and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► something that's a random event and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► is not hard to imagine just by chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► there's an event that just knocks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► destin continent way back way back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► the same way that random events happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► in sports I like some guy twist his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► ankle on the stairs walking into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► sports arena like you can just have bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► luck but so there could very easily be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► an alternate universe version of america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► or alternate universe version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► world where the Aborigines took over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► world and they're trying to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► history book going like man it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► Aborigines to go over the world when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► Australia is terrible the thing that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► the thing I suspect that is in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► jared diamond would write up would write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► a book in which seemed inevitable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► Australia Aborigines will have taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► over the world like I think when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► using hindsight you can engineer almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► yeah i think in that world it would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► would also seemed inevitable the hot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► hindsight the hind side thing is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► this is this is always the issue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► talking about stuff that happened in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► yeah but I would almost feel like you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► be much more willing to try to come to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► conclusion like Aborigines must just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► smarter because they came ok overcame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► like tremendous tremendous terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► continent disadvantage right where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► one of the fundamental points that Jared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► I was trying to make a Guns Germs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► Steel is look everybody is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► same intelligence or close enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► like it doesn't matter right and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► rewind the clock and you take all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► Africans and you put them in north [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► america and you take all the North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► can you put them in Europe and you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► all the Orientals and you put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► Africa like you should end up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► same probabilities anyway because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► the continent that is affecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► outcome it's not the people like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► people aren't any different and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► totally back him on that end but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► mean that you can have situations where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► just the unexpected occurs because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► don't think he is he is arguing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► see people like arguing against this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► version in their minds of conduct germs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► and steel that he is saying it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► inevitable that some civilization in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► Eurasia was the one that took over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► I don't think he makes that argument I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► think he just talked about it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► most likely one and we're living in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► most likely universe but it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► it's just extremely unlikely like Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► would have had to have the the Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► Death be more lethal or happen at a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► more unfortunate point in their history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► like if the black to happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► fifteen hundreds the paper that argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► geography theory because obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► start of the book he makes a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► really big point about all humans at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► same black you know one races and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► yeah people who argue against his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► geography theory to put it really simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► do they say no in fact it is the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► who were different or what do they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► the real reason is like what's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► alternative theory to the geography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► surely that I come out and say Europeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► are naturally smarter all or do they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► that I don't know they don't write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► stories are not arguing against that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► this is this is where i find it the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► interesting and I i am trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► this as clear as they can in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► podcast because i was talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► thing is easier than trying to write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► out when you're just arguing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► someone on the internet i would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► like in the reddit for someone to who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► thinks like a historian who thinks they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► can answer this question that Brady is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► asking that is my question as well which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► don't argue against the particulars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► about events the that Jared Diamond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► mentions in Guns Germs and Steel I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► a coherent alternate theory of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► that like that's that's what i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► that's the argument that i want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► like what is the alternate theory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► history and what I have seen so far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► then maybe I have not read widely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► for I've been looking in the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► places but on the rare occasions when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► see people having the argument on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► this level on the like let's not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► let's not argue over the details because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► often they don't even matter they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► relevant not really interested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► Mesoamerican Civil War and whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► conquistadors ability to conquer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► continent but I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► really relevant either way on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► big picture version because what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► normally see is people either saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► there is no theory of history that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► ridiculous that you have to take history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► as it unfolds event by event by event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► and i am very sorry I'm forgetting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► is a technical name for this but saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► how like you have to look at the chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► of all things so like the example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► often see is is saying like oh if a city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► is founded in a different location like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► that can then have a big effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► whether or not a country developed in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► particular way and then like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► affects whether or not the country is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► powerful which can affect the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► the world events and my view of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► like listen man that's is not a theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► that's just listing everything that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► ever happened and that's what I see most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► of the time from professional historians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► like I don't doubt that they are right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► about the list of things but they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► want to present a list of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► that has ever happened in all of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► history and I think that that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► different from the notion of of a theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► one of the things about a theory is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► you don't expect it to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► perfectly work for absolutely everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► like I made a bad analogy when when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► video first came out but I really said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► like I was thinking that Guns Germs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► Steel was a bit like the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► I didn't mean that it's like as as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► of encompasses as a serious general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► relativity is what I was trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► out there is the idea that general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► relativity is a theory that works on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► big-scale icon on galaxy sighs things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► but if you try to use general relativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► to describe very small things it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► doesn't work but that doesn't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► the theory is wrong it's just applicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► under certain circumstances sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► like Harry soda and now from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► foundation series a bit a bit i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► yeah I will I will totally grant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► although i think that the Guns Germs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► Steel like it that theory ends in 1492 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► right is as soon as civilizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► interact like it is all null and void [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► now it is you know it's kinda over but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► that that's that's what I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► conversation with historians about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► is your theory of history and they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► wanting to talk to me about the atoms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► it's like but i agree with you about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► atoms like we're not we don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► disagree but i'm just i'm asking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► different question he could be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► problem with your question I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► if it is on up here's what could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► problem theory of relativity is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► going to change because of something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► Adam does is it like you know atoms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► atoms are atoms and the theory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► relativity zyzz unbreakable you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► it's a big deal and it's it's the rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► and everything has to follow those rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► yeah that's why was a terrible now dear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► okay well don't let me get away from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► let me ask you this about the theory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► history that's why it was a terrible one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► for me to pick let me offer an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► one which might be better which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► universe it may be really wrong in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► many ways but it also to me looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► isn't this is starting points like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► shouldn't we be continuing to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► necessarily be like I just garbage just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► here's what here's why maybe it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► garbage is how susceptible is a theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► of history to humans have helped how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► one person break the theory because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► one animal person can break the theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► of relativity like if if you if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► you're strong reorder have an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► personality or do something brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► you're still not gonna change the theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► of relativity right is the theory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► history so I mean we cut the we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► straight into foundation territory here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► and i won't give spoilers away but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► is what happens with psychohistory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► in in foundation isn't it like can can a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► person could one person break the theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► because so many humans live and die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► every day that if the theory of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► is so fragile that a brilliant person a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► brilliant Aborigine inventing a boat 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► years early in Australia or a brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► a brilliant person in North America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► cultivating a plant a thousand years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► earlier than expected could break the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► whole system then the theory of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► probably isn't worth discussing very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► much because it's probably pretty likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► to get broken or is the theory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► history more robust than that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► my thought is that it would be possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► maybe not for one person but for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► was saying before a series of Lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► events to bring you the unexpected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► well that's different of course a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► of Lucky event you know a comet landing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► on London a few hundred years ago would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► have changed his require lap so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► is a fragile or doesn't need a comet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► a series of amazing coincidences because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► of course it that is unlikely that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► would say it's much closer to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► comet side of things like that that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► Einsteins in a row you get in Australia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► you're like you're limited by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► resources of the world and the very fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► that you're being born into Australia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► like is just limiting the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► express your intelligence anyway because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► lifestyle in in this situation like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► going to be very hard for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► single-handedly developed agriculture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► and like move the rest of everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► along the start of this path like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► just shockingly shockingly difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► that you have to have incentives to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► put that are in the world like otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► you're you're going to stay as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► hunter-gatherer society you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► keep moving around because you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► mathematics you say like you had a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► maximum Jared Diamond does does mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► I forget exactly where but he mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► like 11 place in in Australia where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► is like more susceptible to development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► than others but like but it took it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► humans awhile to get there and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► Europeans had already arrived so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► like that game was probably a delight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► yeah i think it was a delay i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► that's right yeah so there was a there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► was a mighty black stump that called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► people need to let me ask you this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► shaming that a theory of history is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► coming up with that's a fun thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► and it's intellectually stimulating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► stimulating things but if it is created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► how is it useful is it useful to us is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► that practically useful to us until we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► reach a point where we start colonizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► other planets or we start getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► colonized by aliens and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► like if we can if we can crack the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► and correct the theory and we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► surely this is just useless now anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► or is it practically useful to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► information it's almost impossible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► me to imagine a situation that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► useful like I think this is purely an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► intellectual exercise right which might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► be part of the reason why the fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► over it is just so enormous right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► the know that old that Old Crow like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► forget the details of its like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► fighting is furious when the the rewards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► are small and having this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► that kind of thing I don't think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► yeah I just I get frustrated when in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► view someone I don't even want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► nitpicking because that that is demoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► the work that people have done too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► think quite correctly criticized Guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► Germs and Steel across many axes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► it is undoubtable that you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► through a chapter-by-chapter and and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► like oh this wasn't quite sure this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► wasn't quite right but it still seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► me just to be to be missing the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► i will just let me let me just mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► the biggest example where this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► comes across is like a criticism about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► whether or not diseases came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► domesticated animals like this so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► is this is the thing i was mentioning my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► video yeah and without a doubt there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► a huge amount of uncertainty about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► origin of many diseases and people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► quite rightly point out like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► difficult to say where a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► European plagues originated from did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► they come from domesticated animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► maybe maybe not like it seems like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► know that the cow was a pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► animal to have around like some diseases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► came from it but did all of the plagues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► come from domesticated animals i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► so you can go through in and poke holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► in that but my view on it it with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► the stuff is like okay but even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► that's wrong even if it didn't come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► domesticated animals nobody disagrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► that you still can't have plagues if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► don't have a big enough population like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► it doesn't even matter if that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► the book is wrong and so I always feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► like focus focus on the value to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► extracted from this like I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► is something very interesting in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► book but i also think that it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► infuriating too many historians in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► that I find interesting and i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► confess I have to confess that I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► shouldn't have done it Brady but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► kind of like intentionally poke the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► historians a bit in in my video because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► i knew i knew who they were going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► some people watching the America box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► video who were like slowly having their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► blood boil as they as they realize like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► what this video is about I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► like imagine this person like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► simmering is getting like hotter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► hotter and hotter as they're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► the video he's going through Guns Germs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► which is why i like I could not help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► myself in the end of that video in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► audible add going this is the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► book to rule his tree books because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► love the idea of someone just losing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► at their computer screen like i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► believe that like not only has he done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► this all day but he's recommending this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/3815">TS</a>]
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01:11:35 ◼ ► thanks to hover for supporting the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► something I cannot believe we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► spoken about yet em and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► you know the results em the New Zealand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► oh yeah so this sort of happened around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► the time I I disappeared from twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► mm and I think I was off Twitter long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► enough that whatever the thing was die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► down and so I actually don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► how well would you like to be informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► you know why don't you inform me if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► have a you have a link i have a link our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► Center than just a second before i send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► it to just to remind people listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► there were five they're supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► four but there were five candidates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► all went head-to-head in New Zealand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► right and whichever one of these winds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► now goes off to later this year the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► superbowl where it goes against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► existing user and flag so this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► what this is is the decider of who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► going to be the contender right to go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► against the Old Faithful great so we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► five it was supposed to be four but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► we all know red peak not included at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► last minute right because New Zealand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► and now to the world that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► negotiate with terrorists space again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► so we had read bake we had the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► psychedelic spirally kaoru design that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► gray favors we had a pretty lame attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► at a silver fern right which was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► which was the closest to what I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► should have been so that's kind of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► favorite one even though I admit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► wasn't that great but which was all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► worst because it fell into the uncanny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► valley of what the black and silver fern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► close but not there and so way worse in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► my mind and then we had bizarrely these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► two other flags that were sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► hybrid of a phone and the existing New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► Zealand flag and the only difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► between them was a very slight change to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► the cannot slight change a change to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► color palette in the top left corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► right so those I thought of as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► committee design flag yeah let's have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► fern let's have the star pattern and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► let's give people an option over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► colors those are the committee options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► exactly so gray first of all I'm before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► I tell you that the numbers and how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► voting went I think you need to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► ok so let's let's find out well actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► everyone in the world knows except me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► think we probably gonna get nothin up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► yeah because of my weird semi cloistered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► so the winner is the committee designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► flag with the black corner not the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► corner so of those two that looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► identical with the palace which one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► those ones was the winner a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► interesting and this is the part that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► m and that is how the voting went ok so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► I'm going to send you another link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► the wikipedia page which should drop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► down to where the vote the tabulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► folks are here it comes you've sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► the link of the votes broken down by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► preferences and what's interesting great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► because obviously they kept distributing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► preferences until one flag got over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► fifty percent of the vote right now as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► we did has all good flag referendum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► should and what's interesting is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► the eventual winner which i will call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► black corner the was actually trailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► red corner for the first two rounds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► on the third round it was practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► neck and neck and then black corner one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► on the final the final iteration the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► final distribution so red corner was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► leading the vote right until the end as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► the as the Preferences got distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► as the lower ones korra came last by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► way as those as they got distributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► it was only right at the end that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► the black corner came and one they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► basically have the vote that we wish we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► had people we didn't we had a landslide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► but New Zealand despite choosing add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► flag had a cracking election these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► results are great these are these are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► great example of preferential voting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► alright so we've got a couple couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► mhm the the first is I am NOT surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► that my favorite design the chorus pyro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► I i'm not i'm not surprised by that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► wouldn't have thought no that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► be a massive massive winner for people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► am surprised that the red corner flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► his preference votes like that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► if this was a first-past-the-post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► election that one would have won because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► to me that one is unambiguously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► worst and i think that one is awful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► every time I think I said in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► podcast it just reminds me of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► the national baseball league in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► it's just it's terrible i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► absolutely terrible and so I'm almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► appalled to see that it got 41 almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► forty-two percent of the vote on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► first round like that's that is quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► surprising to me I would not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► guessed like I'm not surprised Corey's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► last even though it was my most favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► I can't believe that god awful one came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► very close to being the flag for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► I mean we'll link people to the to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► table of fights but I mean it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► a two-horse race even even read peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► with it's sort of groundswell of support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► who came a distant distant third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► yeah it was really between the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► committee designs and my far i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► percentages are at the first preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► around it was forty percent for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► black corner committee design 42-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► for the red corner committee design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► then red peak the terrorists negotiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► option was only at eight percent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► know and then it was five percent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► less than four percent after that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► yeah it was a it was a two-horse race by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► by a huge margin by a huge margin lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► lovely lovely statistics and numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► that's interesting that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► what we needed was the classy brilliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► of our flags and the fantastic numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► of the new zealand vote then you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► dream flag election if we're to cat 1.4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► million votes and it went all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► through to the fourth iteration though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► it would have taken us about 10 years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► yeah that's that's why we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► your nephew do i get the final thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► Brady if you were voting in the flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► referendum would you vote for the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► flag over the New Zealand flag if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► my my gut says no I would stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► what they have but not strongly i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► hmm i'm assuming you would change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► because you think change is crucial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► no I don't think change is crucial I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► just think that the current New Zealand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► I mean I met changes crucial in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► case not change is crucial at all times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► after that everything of blankets David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► are you for or against yes I hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► think cgpgrey as mr. changes good as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► holiday but i think this case you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► this case you seem to be of the mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► that take what you can get basically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► yeah i'm always of the opinion just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► with voting referendums i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► you UK you can change and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► right like if you--you'll never locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► into something forever don't let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► perfect be the enemy of the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► oh I would definitely vote for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► silver fern flag as its official name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► black corner over the current New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► however i'll make a prediction now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► the new flag losses in the superbowl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► that the current New Zealand flag wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► the head-to-head race i don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► know you the the temperature in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► Zealand well enough to know to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/4792">TS</a>]
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01:27:18 ◼ ► everything that happened every minute of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► every day in the actual trial you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► have to leave stuff out and after week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► after i finished watching this I did try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► to dig around a little bit and to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► like what did the police department say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► about the things that had been left out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► in the trial and you know I i will agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► with you that the documentary is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► sympathetic to Steven Avery and perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► perhaps to a degree that almost does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► disservice to itself could it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► you know it's very much on his side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► yeah but I did try to look into it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► a little bit and at least from what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► can see from the police departments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► documentary makers left out you know be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► used these key things i like them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► thought i'm not impressed by that let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► none of them are like a big smoking gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► other none of the things the police have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► said since that made you think oh well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► find new that of course he was guilty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► but there's a few bitty things that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► do you play exactly but nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► nothing like sensational yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► everything that as a professional video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► maker I feel like yeah obviously you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► cut that like don't mention it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► have any relevant doesn't matter like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► totally makes sense not to include every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► single piece of evidence so I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► police department has come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► from my perspective that I find like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► wow it's amazing i wouldn't go so far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► to say nothing but i would say nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► sensational but there are a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► there are a few things there are few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► things i think could probably could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► television without slowing things down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► too much but yeah but everybody always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► thinks that right like everybody wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► their their additional thing included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► but well I'm no I think I'm quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► partial but you are you are impartial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► infomercial but I did like the series I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► felt like it was a really good use of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► yeah after i really recommend it i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► the thing is just like with cereal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► IIF I have a hard time with these real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► crime things in no small part because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► have a hell of a time keeping everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► straight like all of the humans involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► and their relation to each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► I this doesn't fit very naturally into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► my brain and I think that for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► like me who has a hard time following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► some of those details it did a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► job of trying to constantly remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► relationship to each other showing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► org chart of the police constantly up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► the screen and highlighting this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► spoke to that person you know when was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► this in that I have to say I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► was very very well made for a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► we're even if it was just ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► worse i would have been fifty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► more lost like maybe they did a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► holding it together for me anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► mm so I i really liked it i have set I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► like too much more than i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► would let us know as as always with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► these things sort of binge watch it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► yes Oh house like all of the episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► like blur together a little bit but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► also think if i had watched this over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► any length of time I wouldn't have had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► prayer of holding it all together in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► head so aside from finding a sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► entertaining and engaging addicted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► come away with any kind of new thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► about ya criminal justice system has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► no I mostly just found this man's false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► imprisonment like quite entertaining for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► look at I don't know what you want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► say but like in some ways this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► kind of thing that just reaffirms many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► of my thoughts about the criminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► you know it's just every affirms many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► my thoughts about what people imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► themselves to be I let's just let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► take what i think is is the perhaps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► most galling and clear of all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► things is not Steven Avery but talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► about his cousin brandon yes right who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► who is this kid who was interrogated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► the police over this three-and-a-half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► hour period with out any legal defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► present without his mother present and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► from my perspective and I think if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► see the video most people would agree is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► basically like not exactly bleed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► just tricked into a false confession is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► also you cannot overemphasize how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► he is a guy who's not blessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► yes so is like it is yeah it's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► probably the most jaw-dropping part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► the whole series isn't the way and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► he's thrown to the Lions by his defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► lawyer as well like at times is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► first offense that actually conspires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► against him to have this done to him as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► yeah yeah i mean it again even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► ignoring hope it's just like criminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► negligence on the part of his own lawyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► people will say things like oh but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► they were innocent why why would this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► person give a false confession that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► people just imagine themselves in ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► circumstances always and so people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► oh you know we're having a dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► conversation here on i'm comfortable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► having a glass of wine and say oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► would never give a false confession like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► okay right but let's actually put you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► a high-pressure situation and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► tapes of the police interviews are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► brutal when you hear the police just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► constantly saying the same things over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► and over again like tell us why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► killed or tell us why you killed her you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► know it or like building it up piece by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► you sure you didn't go to his house are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► you sure you didn't go to his house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► and people overestimate their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► ability to withstand that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► I don't know gray I'm not a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► I i think what was time to him was put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► was wrong and like a travesty and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► you watch it you just can't believe what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► you're saying but he wasn't like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► wasn't being like water board or tied up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► upside down with bamboo shoots under his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► fingernails like he's sitting in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► comfortable chair he's being asked tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► yeah and and he does like he does admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► admit to things and the part of me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► I mean he should have had a lawyer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► his parents should have been there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► the police were really wrong for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► reason but the part of me that was most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► amazed is that people will admit to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► murder under those circumstances just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► they can go home will go back to school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► like that there are people who who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► that but this is this is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► unexpected human behavior yeah everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► likes to think oh you know I wouldn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► wouldn't give a false confession if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► I wouldn't gray right yeah of course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► course your grade chorus right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► thing is we know that that is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► case like and no through science how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► remarkably easy it is to inject false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► remarkably easy like this this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► is precisely the point and I just I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► frustrated when people just imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► that I go an innocent person would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► confess that we know that that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► case we absolutely know that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► the case i guess the thing that amazed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► me was how easy it was to do but as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► said the kid is not a bright kid em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► right i mean they said his IQ was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► 65 or 70 like he's a borderline retarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► kid and so and then he admits to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► murder think that's great now I can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► back to school and hand in my homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► yeah they getting it's so clear he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► no concept really of what's going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► I mean there's a few points where his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► vocabulary is so limited that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► he doesn't even know what he's agreeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► are confirming or denying the thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► you saying because he doesn't know words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► like confirm or deny it's just awful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► watch and like ask a grown adults like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► Steven Avery and his his cousin a grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► adults is also interviewed under brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► circumstances and he does not elicit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► false confession so again as with many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► things there is a statistical outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► right but you can't say that like no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► will ever give a false confession are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► now I'm there and when I was joking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► saying I wouldn't do it I probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► do if I was being water boarded and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► boots under my fingernails but but i bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► we could get you to give a false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► confession under less circumstance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► probably for a kit kat diet pepsi yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► exactly the thing the thing that I write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► hold on ok so there was a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► just it just broke my heart so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► it's it's this that they're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► about Brendan this kid giving this false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► confession and his mom is asking him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► like why did he give this confession and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► you know he says oh I you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► know I don't know and and at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► he said something like they kept asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► me these questions and I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► I guests because that's what I do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► my homework and the thing that broke my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► heart about that is I have totally done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► the same kind of false confession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► tactics with my own students under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► different circumstances which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► like are you sure you're done with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► paper right which is basically saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► like something wrong on this piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► paper and like this this is just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► happens in schools of like that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► to go with option A or option B this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► this kid who's not a bright kid has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► environment where this is what adults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► are doing just all the time around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► right half like so we want you to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► this thing we don't want you to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► thing like pickup from from what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► putting down like which way you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► go with this kid and you know I like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► know i know i have done that with dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► kids in class where they're saying some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► stuff and you're just like you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► trying to move along like why don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► what do you think about this option like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► oh that option sounds like great what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► the police it was so like it wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► that subtle though I mean I can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► of a specific example but it was almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► along the lines of like you know to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► something up but to make it similar did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► you cut with what part of her body did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► you cut and he would say fort and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► no shin no knee know by and he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► guessing every single part of the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► until he finally he would say the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► they wanted and then go are so you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► you know he had to ear right have to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► 19 other body parts yeah this is it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► this is exactly how false confessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► get made right is as soon as you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► person to just agree a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► you you planted that seed in their mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► and then like you start going over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► whole thing like that's ok let's take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► from the beginning so you said you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► go to his house right you did step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► inside you'd go here and now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► saying you did cut her in the knee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► I like you just another what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► next like tell us what happened next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► you and you just keep badgering for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► detailing to get that other detail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► then you start over again and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► okay let's go through and make sure we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► have the story again like and just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► hours and hours and hours of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► p-people fold in ways that are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► unexpected and so the the Brendan thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► is is the absolute the worst the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► appalling one that just makes me sad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► so many ways that the police have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► incentive to get a confession out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► remarkably unexpected and because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► unexpected juries are very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► convince that false confessions exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► awfulness in the judicial system it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► remarkable the way the two trials like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► attacked in completely different ways as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► well it was almost like you want that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► that like to save that the murder happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► 111 try and then go to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► first trial and the exact same guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► saying that happened in a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► different way like wow I'm amazed I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► amazed you can do that well that this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► me again for people who are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► listening to us talk about this now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► they ran two separate murder trials for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► these two different guys Brenden and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► this state was presenting different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► theories about the murders at each just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► seems unbelievable but it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► reminder of-of course the judicial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► system is this thing that is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► procedure and it is about trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► convince people and the thing that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► really dislike about it is that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► state has incentives to win and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► the state has an incentive to win they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► obviously counter to what you think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► truth seeking behavior and it shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► be unexpected when you give people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► incentives to win that they want to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► that prosecutors have careers that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► the Chief of Police has a reputation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► uphold like I don't know if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► great way around it but it's just it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► it's just sad to see it so laid out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► taking away like you know profession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► progression and all those reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► the state is incentivized to win take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► all that away and pretend they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► all-out realistic people who was serving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► us wrap who didn't have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► careers to think about who shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► they still be incentivized to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► because the bad guys break the rules as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► well like it's not like the bad guys go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► into court and saying okay let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► find out the facts like the bad guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► obstructing I so like obstructing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► doing the wrong thing so much that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► the good guys need like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► like don't need to fight back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► interest of Justice if they just SAT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► there passively and accepted everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► I mean well I'm not sure what you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► by the bad guys break the rules like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► don't think that the defense is allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► what do you mean by break the room is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► and then the police think I robbed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► it's not like we all held up by hand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► say ok there's no more good guys and bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► guys let's just walk in a room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► everyone told the truth and then justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► will be done like once the trial starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► like the bad guys are still lying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► they're twisting and they're tricking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► and their big tactical and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► prosecution wasn't allowed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► I'm not saying the prosecution should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► lie but if the prosecution wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► allowed to be tactical in return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► wouldn't wouldn't the prosecution be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► turning up to a gunfight with a knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► like wouldn't it be a case of like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► need the full armory that is being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► by the defense including the use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► tactics and strategy and like so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► this is that this is the thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► this is an interesting point that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► think comes up when I argue with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► about the judicial system sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► is one I always find it interesting how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► often everybody is tempted to frame it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► in these terms there is the prosecutor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► okay well we're already starting from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► bad place right that there is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► someone who is on the defense who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► yeah but we're pretty were supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► yeah right but if you actually speak to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► nobody's nobody works from that starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► position like everybody in their mind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► imagining like yeah okay we say that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► surely most of the time they're bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► now I wasn't really doing i can see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► sounds that way but I wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► doing that what I was doing was i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► saying that you do not have no items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► hypothetical case where the person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► guilty and they're going to get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► with it if we don't arm the prosecution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► with the same tools we are the defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► also also saying we shouldn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► that the prosecution shouldn't be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► focused on winning they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► focused on truth but if they don't focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► on winning i think they they stay don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► use the tools of winning and that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► allow the very occasional guilty person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► who gets charged with a crime to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► we're imagining that humans are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► perfectly altruistic right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► presuming that the prosecution is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► convinced that the defendant is guilty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► that provides them an incentive to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► to win now candidate that is separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► that is separate from their careers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► because nobody wants to see a murderer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► go free and that like there's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► anybody really wants but the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► like here's here's here's my fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► problem with this everything in life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► a dial right that you are turning up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► you're turning down and people always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► want to argue about where is the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► place to turn that dial and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► think this is a reasonable argument to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► have and I think you have to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► argument about look we will never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► the exact place to turn the dial and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► the question is do we want to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► turn too high or too low and my feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► with something like a judicial system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► that you should have the dial turned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► high in favor of the defendant because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► the consequence of being wrong is severe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► it is deriving a person of their freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► of the only life they will ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► and so if you are wrong that that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► tragedy and now that this is where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► comes down to a personal assessment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► I i think it is far far worse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► wrongfully in prison an innocent person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► then it is too late guilty person go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► now you can make an argument for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► other side like this last night we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► discussing before everything comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► to some fundamental assumption but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► conviction is vastly worse and so I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► willing to turn that dial quite high in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► the advantage should be to a free man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► who was just pulled off the streets by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► the police and then the police have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► say here is the evidence for why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► think this person should be removed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► the defense is arguing against police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► procedure and people go like oh what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► they're trying to put a murderer away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► like now you but you you can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► about the particular situation if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► like let's say you're convinced even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► Avery is an absolute murderer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► convinced of it is your stance that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► state should be allowed to decide when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► they don't want to follow procedures to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► put someone in prison like at we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► need to worry about how we handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► blood and we don't need to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► people signing in and out of of crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► scenes and we don't need to worry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► people who were banned from being on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► crime scene were actually on the crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► prosecution that kind of power that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► crazy power and and this to me is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► with the Stephen a everything is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► it's astounded to see how they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► follow the rules and my feeling is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► man if i'm sitting on a jury as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► my thought is well human testimony is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► almost worthless including confessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► so almost anything that anybody says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► it's like I'm immediately just throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► he's you say you're guilty Brendan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► don't even care that you say it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► because I'm just not interested what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► and so the state had all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► physical evidence they had a key that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► was found in the house they had Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► Avery's blood in a car they found her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► oh ok well that's that's pretty it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► pretty pretty damning physical evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► their government did you follow all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► the procedures for collecting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► evidence and then they go oh no actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► there were some problems collecting it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► like okay well now all of this evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► is garbage and now you have nothing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► that like that's that's my view on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► like if if the state doesn't doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► have to follow the procedures that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► crazytown that is that is insanity it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► so regardless of what the filmmakers say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► filmmakers say about this but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► the purpose of the film was to convey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► that miscarriage of justice has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► that's concentrated and Steven Avery for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► a minute and certainly a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► people who've watched it feel this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► we see all these petitions to the White [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► House and people saying this needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► pardoned and whatever did it work on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► do you feel a miscarriage of justice has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► happened a second time to this man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► I mean look at it this is we're just at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► yeah I know you and I just a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► guys yeah we're a couple guys know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► my feeling is there it it's astounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► that this jury convicted him it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► astounding and one of the help of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► other things that you don't like Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► but you know it's just my thought on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► this is is it was just a case of of they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► show how the police department just was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► constantly before the trial talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► about all of the gruesome details about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► Steven Avery and the confession and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► murder and like how awful it was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► police chief gives this dramatic press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► conference about like who hide your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► children behind your skirt while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► discussed this horrible murder that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► taken place that was crazy like to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► away with that press conference before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► the trial the American justice system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► never ceases to amaze me for things yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► the use of the median trial by media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► yeah it's astounding and ages an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► of the police and the media together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► poisoning the minds of everyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► could potentially participate in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► jury-rigged it's it's amazing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► amazing and speaking of human biases the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► way someone first here's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► you almost can't undo a first impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► that somebody has em it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► impossible this is a thing called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► backfire effect which it like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► astounding but sometimes like if some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► and here's something that is wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► you're very attempt to explain why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► wrong end up convincing the person even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► more that their first impression was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► i agree with you like I cannot believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► whenever it happens that the media is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► allowed to just discuss accusations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► anyone on any crime like I find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► amazing it like because i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► there's a little bit of you know of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► desserts for the police commissioner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► this case where you know he was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► all of these press conferences to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► totally just poison the well for Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► Avery on the jury and in the end like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► is he's talking to some reporter who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► gotten sex text messages that he sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► two people he's worked with a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► prosecutor was in the end and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► reporter is like oh but if if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► have there's nothing if you haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► anything you have nothing to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► right and any sense of the reporters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► like oh come on you know full well as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► do that just the accusation will destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► yeah it's like yeah you bastard you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► yeah so I don't know it's just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► addition to what seemed to me to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► your question a horrific miscarriage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► it is also just fit right into a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► my preconceptions about like man the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► the media is allowed to report on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► criminal affairs are awful and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► quite that stuff that doesn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► doesn't happen in the UK and no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► Australia and you know they're quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► reporting court cases and certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► country's I've working as a journalist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► that's why when i watch this I'm like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► almost seems like a like a joke to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► like made up because the things they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► he's Kentucky's couldn't do you need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► journalists should be in jail and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► court TV the court TV astounds me how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► they're like they're like sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► commentators and pundits and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► predicting what might happen next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► who won that day's play and do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► he's do you think like I just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► believe this cantilever it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► like gladiators or something and that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► me just feeds the whole problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► everybody starts picking sides and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► all of a sudden you have once again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► humans love to do is they divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► themselves into tribes and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► becomes more about sticking to your side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► as opposed to any kind of trying to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► out what is what is really right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► aight immediately it's just awful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► Africa it's just it's like the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► keep thinking of is there some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► horrible cross between like whores and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► vultures because the way they say flock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► around every person who's involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► this trial is just just despicable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► way they're picking apart the emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► trauma of other people for their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► benefit and careers still haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► answered my question what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► he did that well you asked if it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► miscarriage of justice which I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► yes again no way he should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► convicted under those circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► yeah if I have to put money on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► hmm i would say no he didn't do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► much more so than with cereal i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► like i'm very aware of having watched a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► thing that is super favorable to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► mm but my feeling is know that this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► didn't do it he got framed to me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► that's true isn't it amazing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► audacious the police work to do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► almost like it's like how do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► you could get away with that will they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► do get away with it but how do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► you get away with that with all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► attention but part of me thinks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► probably some slight backwater this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► matter what county in wisconsin and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► never realized it was going to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► this big famous netflix series in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► national story and yeah well this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► mean I hate to say it but I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► small towns have particular horrors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6895">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► them and then and this this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► you know big hats kind of thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► it's just horrifying consumed like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► think it's not surprising that this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► of corruption in the police department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► can happen something to point out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► which i think i'm not sure how great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► this the show tries to wrap it up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► us but the defense lawyer doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► the point which i think is true which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► that I don't think that anybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► police department is like oh man we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► can't wait to frame this guy and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► I i think they are all just horrific Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► hmm and they all felt like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► moving this along to make sure that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► can put him in prison that you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► haven't spoken about it but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► very many reasons why the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► family wasn't liked by the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► community I think that there's this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► wasn't plucked out of absolutely nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► you know he got into trouble as a kid so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► that like their there's more going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► here but my feeling is that this Theresa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► girl got murdered by somebody else who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► took advantage of the situation so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► think that seems really unlikely gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► that seems like it seems pretty amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► to think I want to murder this i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► can get away with a murder today because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► if i disposed of the body in this way at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► this person's house this person who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► police are already predisposed against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► is is almost certainly going to go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► but that seems really implausible to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► that a third party did the murder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► the third party frame Steven Avery I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► think the most likely scenarios are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► vreedle up or someone else did it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► and evidence and moved the evidence into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► a place where we made it more obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► that Steven Avery get it whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► they thought he did or not they moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7017">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► the evidence that I i find it very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► to believe that a third party so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► i could get away with murder this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► because I could frame every or they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► a mirror and thought now i'll put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► every it seems to me that is that second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:15 ◼ ► scenario is seems more likely that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7035">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► police find her dead and the move her in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► only four days fixed even they find her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► dead they think Steven Avery did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► because that was the last house he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► at and they're thinking we got no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► evidence we can make this stick like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► Avery's clearly done and he's gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► away with it again we can make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► stick because so then they start moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► a couple of things here but they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► move a lot of things because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► to move her car and they have to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► the remnants of her but like moving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► ya like like to the police find the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► i I don't know that that to me seems way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► harder then there's a huge celebrity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► like this is the other thing to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► to be really clear about he's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► like some guy in the blue that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► police have had run-ins a huge known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► person in this area like the family are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► well known i don't think it's crazy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► think someone would think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► great place to try to dump the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► right and and if it's found they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► going to look too hard but my feeling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► somebody else killed her he was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► well-known like the that it's an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► place to dump a body and and think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► they'll just they'll just not look very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► far past this guy if they if they find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► body on on his property and just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► this this guy everybody already thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► it's kind of awful he did it when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► watch something like this like i love i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► really like America I work through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► lots of my friends are Americans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:49 ◼ ► Americans you Americans call place when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7129">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► i watch this documentary I sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► America's weird you know only in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► as they say and you sort of think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► that's a crazy place do you look at MIT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► American things like that now you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► in London and have lived here for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► time do you watch this like do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► like an outsider when you watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► order watches and think my country that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► is a bit weird sometimes I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► I've lived outside of the US long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► that I have a lot of distance from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► no it feels like another place but much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► less than the American thing this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► to me just feels much more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► small-town kind of place where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► that that's what actually feels like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► real difference and like small towns you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► know everybody knows everybody else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► like the police department has a blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► feud with some family because because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:45 ◼ ► a cousin who married into the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7185">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► you gotta love LA like this is how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► whole thing kicks off is like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► distant Avery's who who doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► along with the marries into the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7196">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► departments like that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7197">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► one with small places like to adjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► their incestuous in this way is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► everybody's connected to everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► and that can be great when things go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► well but it can be terrible when things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► go wrong this to me is the the flipside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► like the dark side of a small community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7216">TS</a>]
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02:00:22 ◼ ► difference i don't feel like oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► America it is more days like oh god it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► a small town and these are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► things that are creepy and weird about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► small towns and so that that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7229">TS</a>]
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02:00:36 ◼ ► really excited though because quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► early in the show they mention sheboygan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7237">TS</a>]
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02:00:43 ◼ ► during our postcard count when you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► of the first postcards you pull that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► from sheboygan wisconsin remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► made a little joke about it right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► also have never heard of that place is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7251">TS</a>]
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02:00:53 ◼ ► sheboygan came up and I'm like oh I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7253">TS</a>]
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02:01:03 ◼ ► a place before and then it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7263">TS</a>]
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02:01:06 ◼ ► there is there is there's totally a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7266">TS</a>]
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02:01:22 ◼ ► police make someone for the crime or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:24 ◼ ► they make a murderer out of him by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7284">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► he was treated earlier or did they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► him into a murder with fake evidence got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMX_ntwo/7288">TS</a>]
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