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00:00:00   I did go out onto the scaffolding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   outside the house I fucked up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1">TS</a>]

00:00:04   courage i made it i went out i looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07   me I looked at my roof I took the nail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09   and gear flag and i flattered in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12   wind of the house so inspired by grays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15   Batman efforts are basically i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   didn't want him to be the only Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19   right so I did it I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22   it's another very cool picture of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23   Brady I feel like that one too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   calling out for some photoshopping just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   like you are looking cool explosion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   photograph you know you've got the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   wind blowing the mighty nail and gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   flagler kids they know that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/34">TS</a>]

00:00:35   calling out for a little modification I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   think gray I'm I'm open to that are I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   even willing to make some suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   there's a this event is about you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   you don't tell the internet what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/45">TS</a>]

00:00:46   really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/46">TS</a>]

00:00:47   crap can I suggest perhaps Tenzing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/47">TS</a>]

00:00:51   Topman Everest could be used as a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   inspiration hillary and tenzing together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   on this on the summit's guy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   southeast face there but you're right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00   i mean i think the pictures magnificent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   enough on a sign that it doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   photoshopping but if yes it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   absolutely magnificent you on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   scaffolding leading up to your house for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   that for that for those who have asked i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   went for the she me at the window option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   rather than they going up the ladders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17   option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/77">TS</a>]

00:01:18   I just didn't trust those letters yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   this is a popular request lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   dying to know which way through which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/82">TS</a>]

00:01:23   people about you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   yes a lot of people of us did you do did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/85">TS</a>]

00:01:29   you do the ladder or did you go out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   window and so for those who ever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   you're asking i went for the wind eh i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/94">TS</a>]

00:01:39   very proud of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   we've got and we've got to tie up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/100">TS</a>]

00:01:41   loose ends oh yeah is that it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   that we do on the show we tie up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   loose ends yeah i like to think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   like a whole complete thing i would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   to think when the last ever episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52   Hello internet is recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   uh-huh it was somehow close some loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   that started like with the first episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   of people will go to you what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   they planned the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   yeah i think the whole thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   scripted it was like it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/124">TS</a>]

00:02:05   genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   Agatha Christie sort of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   every single sentence in every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   episode was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   now working towards some moment at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   end i went to my regular gym this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/134">TS</a>]

00:02:18   morning and walking up to the front desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   i'm getting ready to go in and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   big pile of towels that you're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   to take from as you go into the gym but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/146">TS</a>]

00:02:30   the new thing this morning was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   gigantic sign and by gigantic I mean as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/152">TS</a>]

00:02:36   tall as me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   they erected a huge sign which said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   please think about the environment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/160">TS</a>]

00:02:44   only take one towel into the gym and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/164">TS</a>]

00:02:49   this kind of thing infuriates me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/169">TS</a>]

00:02:53   it absolutely infuriates me and at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   gym it infuriates me many multiple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   over so i took for towels into the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   today I did not take one towel into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   gym and 2 y.o skins and I club his seal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/185">TS</a>]

00:03:09   on the way I feel like I don't even need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   to explain why this is infuriating let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   me just run through why in the gym I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   find this particularly frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   there's another sign later in the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   which is in the actual equipment like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   when you're when you're doing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/203">TS</a>]

00:03:23   workout they have these little signs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   all over the place which say please be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   considerate to the other patrons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   make sure to wipe down the equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   after you've used it totally reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   right this is a totally reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   civilization like request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   you've been a sweaty gross person on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   piece of equipment you're going to wipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   down your gross sweat off of it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   reasonable yes of course yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   except that the question is wipe it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   because in the gym there are no little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   hand wipes for you to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   there's no equipment there at all so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00   unless you're going to wipe it down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/240">TS</a>]

00:04:01   your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   the only thing the only conceivable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   thing that you could use to wipe down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   the equipment is the one towel that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/247">TS</a>]

00:04:11   want you to bring into the gym but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   nobody's going to use the same towel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   clean the gym equipment as to clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   themselves later in the shower i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/261">TS</a>]

00:04:22   vastly vastly on her fair enough yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   mean yeah yeah okay yeah right yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28   completely unreasonable because I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   you're on board with me breathing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/271">TS</a>]

00:04:31   really appreciate it I'm not sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   what they made by the one tower thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   that surely surely you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   different time when you go through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   shower afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   here's the thing here's the thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   the setup of this with with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   fascist like setup that this gym has has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   has arranged right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   the setup is such that you can only pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   up the towels before you go in with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   little membership card that they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/293">TS</a>]

00:04:53   so the towels are not accessible when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   you are inside the gym so they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   big sign saying please take only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   towel and then you have to pass through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   a barrier through which you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02   return to get another towel later like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   they clearly just want you to take one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06   so this is why i don't i don't just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   1 i'm going to take well we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   start out with I'm gonna take to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   because i'm going to need one to clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   down the equipment and a separate one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   clean down myself in the shower now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   also have it to take a third towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   because i think it's quite reasonable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   do the same thing in a sauna right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   you're you're laying down in a sauna as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   a gigantic sweaty piece of meat you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/325">TS</a>]

00:05:28   sweating everywhere it's nicer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   everybody again this is how civilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   holds together if you put down a towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   in the sauna and you sweat out your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/334">TS</a>]

00:05:37   gross bodily fluids onto the towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   instead of onto the wood so this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   I would normally take three towels into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   the gym one for the sign up one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   cleaning the equipment and one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47   cleaning me I think this is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   reasonable I think three is too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   great i think you could get away with to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   i could get away with 2 i'm not arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56   that I could get away with too if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   willing to introduce and unacceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   level of gross into my life like oh I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   used this towel to clean down all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   equipment and i'm also going to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   to clean down the sauna like now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   not it's not going to happen because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   the cleaning down in the gym towel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   one never really touches my skin right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   because I'm wearing gym clothes when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   in the gym was in the sauna that towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   is also touching my skin so I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   to use the same towel i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21   quite reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   I've never been to a gym where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   haven't got that rolls of blue roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   everywhere that blue paper that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   could just use to wipe down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/387">TS</a>]

00:06:28   equipment or your forward and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/388">TS</a>]

00:06:29   like that they not have paper towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   I know I know this one does not mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   that in the main area they have drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   fountains and that's it and I see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   using their one sad towel to clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   equipment or to do that thing like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   reserve a piece of equipment by draping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44   the towel across that they're using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   same towel that they then take back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   the showers and like they're all being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   all follow the sign right but i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   going to follow the sign so normally i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   would take three towels but today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   because this new sign was there about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   like think of the environment as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   took for towels because one of them was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   just out of pure inventions and passive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   aggressiveness I thought if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05   to tell me you're going to tell me how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   many towels I'm supposed to take because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   of mother earth like no no I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   take more towels because i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   that sign is there because this gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   company suddenly really cares about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   mother earth now I think they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   trying to come up with a better way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   make people use fewer towels and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   normal sign that you just said oh please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   take one towel they didn't think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   effective enough so they've decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   introduce this kind of environmental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   nagging asst into the system to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   be more effective about reducing towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   usage and I feel like screw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   if you're going to do that if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   going to be passive-aggressive towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41   me in that way i'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   passive-aggressive towards you i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   taking an extra towel today it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   clear to me that the company's primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   concern is the amount of money that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   are spending on towel laundry right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   is it has nothing to do with the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/472">TS</a>]

00:07:56   environment itself like that's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   what's going on and that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   that really bothers me about these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   of situations that you see like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   like you got to California and you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   a hotel somewhere and they have little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   sign they're like oh there's a drought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   in California please don't take a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   long shower please don't wash your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10   super thoroughly and like now I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   gonna listen to you little sign like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/492">TS</a>]

00:08:13   don't think the environment is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   your primary concern here like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   your primary concern is the water bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/497">TS</a>]

00:08:18   at your hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   I only ever see these kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   environmental signs in places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   people are using a company's resource [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/503">TS</a>]

00:08:27   that is extraordinarily difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   the company to police its usage like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   then suddenly they're very concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   about the environment and wanted you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   use as little of the resources possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   right now please only take one napkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   think about dear precious mother like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/519">TS</a>]

00:08:40   now I don't think that's the reason here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   and i'm going to take extra napkins just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   because you told me not to but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   like a sort of a 10 gentle benefit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   the earth does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/528">TS</a>]

00:08:49   come out on top if we do use less water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   and waterless tails so it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   you're cutting off the earth nose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   spite the companies face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   I mean I mean you say that you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00   right but how how much water can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   possibly you abused by the global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   consumption of cleaning towels i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   don't i don't think very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/549">TS</a>]

00:09:10   it's it but I've put a lot i bet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   it's a lot sometimes sometimes you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   statistics on those little nagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   science where they say they took give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   you all these layers of water and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   like that and see right there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23   there with you doing you're falling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24   their trap right because look at the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   they always express those things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   will always give you statistics in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   huge numbers right they play the huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   number game that did you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   people washing their hands in California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   they use a bajillion leaders of water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39   every minute like oh my god a bajillion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   leaders of water that sounds like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   much the only relevant question in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   of these scenarios i get if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   thinking about I really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   mother earth and I really care about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   using her resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51   the thing is not the absolute amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   resources in any particular situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   the question is what percent of the pie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   chart of total resource use is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   water use for example personal water use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   like people using water for drinking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   for showering and for laundering howls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   presumably this is like zero percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   the water use and and the huge huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   amount of water use is usually ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   things like agriculture or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   industrial processes right like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   care about the environment that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   thing to focus on is like changing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   the vast majority of water is being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/625">TS</a>]

00:10:29   it's crazy making to focus on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/629">TS</a>]

00:10:33   little thing that you can see like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34   think that's that's naturally where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   people's brains go with this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   stuff they focus on like oh there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   little thing that I can see in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   me and I'm going to spend some time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   changing its like it has no impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   whatsoever on the global scheme charity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   of a thousand miles starts with one step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   gray but if you're just walking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   thousand random steps in random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   directions you're making no progress on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/654">TS</a>]

00:10:54   no progress whatsoever that's that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   all right look this seems like a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/657">TS</a>]

00:11:01   time to promote one of my topics up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04   running order then because it sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05   ties in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06   go ahead it's a bit of follow-up it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   involves the invention of a new term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   which is a favorite pastime of mine we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   have another predetermined ue we do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/673">TS</a>]

00:11:16   want to talk about something that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   going to call cheer pressure sheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   yeah so if i take you back to last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   episode I was talking about this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   cricket match and how this guy had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   marked up at the end of a cricket match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   and it and then lot of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   criticized him online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   mm and then all these other people kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   of rushed to his defense and said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   shouldn't pick on Amy tried hard he put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   his hand up at the end of the game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   you know had the courage to try and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   he files you shouldn't you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   pick on him and I didn't completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   agree with that but then it had echoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/707">TS</a>]

00:11:51   later in the same show when I made a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   glib comments about the space X program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/714">TS</a>]

00:11:58   Elon Musk's private rocket company who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   that has been attempting to land Rockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/721">TS</a>]

00:12:05   on platforms in the sea to sort of make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   them reusable so they sort of self land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   which is quite a quite an impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11   thing to do we make a rocket real and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   after use standing upright and had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   a few spectacular crashes and they blew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   up and just my luck straight after we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   recorded there was a very successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   landing at me and you have anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   that's because that's what it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   like the day after we recorded he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   huge success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   yeah and I waited eight weeks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   actually release the exit making you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   look like a total idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34   yeah anyway that's beside the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   there were a series of quite spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   crashes and I made some some jokes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   it and I don't want to say that lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45   people got in touch and lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   complained because it's very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   think when you see the 5 or 6 comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   on reddit that that's lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   when of course it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   whenever how many hundreds of thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   of people listen whatever but it does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58   does seem like loud in your head when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   you read the comments and it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   have them stick in your craw right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   you feel like you need to address those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06   yeah and the main sentiment of them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   haven't got any of them in from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10   to me at the moment but i think the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/790">TS</a>]

00:13:11   sentiment of them were I I should know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/791">TS</a>]

00:13:16   better as an enthusiast about space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   the Apollo program I shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   speaking down about SpaceX basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/800">TS</a>]

00:13:24   actually supporting I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   supporting them and there was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   comments which is true along the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   of that space exploration is really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32   and lots of things go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   I'm sure you were unaware of that here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   with us face that expression is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   difficult Brady but this but this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   new thing that's happening it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   something also have complained about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   the show before and there is these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   of and I related to science more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   anything because I guess I'm a society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   person and I find lots of society people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/829">TS</a>]

00:13:50   on Twitter and that is this science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   cheerleading m and this this over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/833">TS</a>]

00:13:56   enthusiasm and over positivity about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/836">TS</a>]

00:13:59   anything science-related and this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   now it's going the other way into what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   call this cheer pressure of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   turning and belittling people if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   dare criticize or speak against science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12   or exploration or whatever their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   whatever the chosen topic is let how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   you speak badly about SpaceX you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   supposed to be one of us Brady you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   supposed to be a space person you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/860">TS</a>]

00:14:21   supposed to be a science person you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   not allowed to criticize SpaceX you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   not allowed to make jokes about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26   rockets falling over like drunk people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   as they try to land on the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   right and and my shoot is yes I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/870">TS</a>]

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00:14:38   think it's also it doesn't doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39   I don't like space exploration but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   you're allowed to criticize things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   you're there to make jokes and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46   chili everyone and like this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   sort of now rabbit turning on people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   they dare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   it's almost it's like you know that code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   button on my hootsie lon mask me he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   the Science Guy himself he's not the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   huh but we have to make jokes at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01   expense and pick on him you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/901">TS</a>]

00:15:02   everyone picks on a lot mask it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   it's like a fun sport isn't up I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   never say anything bad about you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   masquerading know you would you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/909">TS</a>]

00:15:10   say anything bad about him but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   also wouldn't turn on someone who did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   you have course not of course that TMI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   am i imagining this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   this is cheer pressure think I'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   trying to formulate in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/920">TS</a>]

00:15:23   like a definition for what you mean by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   this but I think that I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   onto something here ready I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   immediately latching on to cheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   pressure sounds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/931">TS</a>]

00:15:36   yeah that it's like a reverse bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   from people who are into a thing I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   know i'm i'm having a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   articulating what it is but just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   like hot stoppers something about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   feels innately right i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   basically pressuring people with similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   interests to all be positive about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/955">TS</a>]

00:15:56   hmm we must all cheer together we must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   all be cheerleaders for SpaceX because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   if one of us doesn't tell the line i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   be interested in space exploration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   still make jokes and criticize and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   things like this there's nothing wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   with that it's quite a scientific thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   to do isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/972">TS</a>]

00:16:12   it's also just funny i think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   good working definition and i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   and i think that there is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   something along those lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   what you're feeling here is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/979">TS</a>]

00:16:23   various and multitude side effects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/983">TS</a>]

00:16:28   humans and their group thinking I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/988">TS</a>]

00:16:32   there is just something innately in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   humans that is desirous of being part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/994">TS</a>]

00:16:39   a group like when someone listens to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/999">TS</a>]

00:16:43   podcast right and they hear you and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   hear you talk about the space program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   and I can you love all of this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   if they're a person who's super into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   space they are now mentally categorizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   you as like oh this person is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   exact same group is made and so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   when there's any kind of divergence from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   that the person this kind of cheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:03   pressure is is coming out right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   the person wants to bring you back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08   line with like you are part of my group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   like I listen to the podcast I like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   I like space hearing you say something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   don't like about space is suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   causing a problem in my brain because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   can't neatly put you into the group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   people who are super into space all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   time 100-percent just like I am I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   that's what's occurring it's because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   people like you Brady they want you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   the group that that's what that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   occurring here that that's why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   like relating this to peer pressure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   metaphor to make where peer pressure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   about group conformity and this cheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41   pressure is a similar thing it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   it's like the next level up of not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   conformity but visible and obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:50   enthusiasm for all of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   the group has decided are good to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   visibly and obviously enthusiastic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57   em I can get behind this one and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:01   well aware and you know although when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   our testing for the early space program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   before Mara carry their rockets were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   blowing up all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07   there's a really famous montage in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   film the right stuff that just shows all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   these Rockets flying up one after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   other it's a classic it's a classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   moment in the film and like we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   going through that again and do I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   I'm sure that we're getting flack at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   time to when that when the press where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   they're filming and the Rockets were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   blowing up and you just gotta get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   through that it's just part of the drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   of it all you know and we don't all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   to just if everyone just choose a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   hundred percent and pat him on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   every time one of these Rockets blows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   and says don't worry you'll get it next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   time and no one says gosh these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   know what they're doing nothing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   gets achieved there's no pressure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42   criticism and that really pushes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   that that scrutiny and that fear of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   failure if people are worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   things going wrong and I think they work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1129">TS</a>]

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00:18:51   keeps them on their toes in a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   society should have brought this out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   the wide as possible that like in a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:58   you should be able to criticize whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01   you want that doesn't exist and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   you like tremendous pier or cheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   pressure like you you feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   not allowed to say things like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   think that's good for for freezes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   think even if you're into space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   you should totally be able to criticize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1151">TS</a>]

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00:19:14   at their expense like yeah they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   a great thing but you can laugh at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   like it's totally fine you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   just they're just words floating in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   air they're just like thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   people had you're not going out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   like sabotaging the Rockets when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1164">TS</a>]

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00:21:39   thanks to freshbooks for supporting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   i love i love this is a recurring theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   of you Brady you put things in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   notes and then when it comes around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   the episode you think I put this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54   why did I put this thing in here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55   remember it made me really angry at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   time but now i can't remember what yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   and I I think the thing is that it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   if you do i guess that just wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   massively useful can you recap it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:08   can I tell you why you put this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   in there yeah i think this was just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   was just one of a series of articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   because it because the apple watch has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   been around for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   people are doing retrospectives on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   okay yeah yeah that's why there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   an apple watch talk in the air is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   been a long enough time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   interestingly Apple hasn't released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:26   another one which makes people sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   question things quite a long time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   them to have a generation one product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   this is one of the many articles kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   speculating about how many watches they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:37   could possibly have sold and coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   with numbers that don't necessarily look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   great as always with this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   it's shockingly hard to speculate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46   some apple stuff because they play their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   cards close to the chest as much as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   can then the apple watch is one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   things they group into like an other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   sales category and like who knows what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   in that other sales category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   yeah but either way the other sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   category didn't shoot up a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   amounts you can safely assume like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   didn't sell a bazillion watches like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   that's part of what this is but I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   this sentiment a bunch of times and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   always drives me crazy with not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   apple watch but with any technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   products out there in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   people always phrase it in terms of need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   whether say like do you need X and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23   whenever anyone is asking that question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   the answer is almost always no no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   don't need anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   even I would argue like a smartphone do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   you need a smartphone now like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   doesn't really fall under the category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35   of need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   it's a thing that's incredibly useful i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   just always think that that framing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40   so wrong yeah but I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   thinking of need in the wrong way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   think you use the word yourself there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   usefully is their usefulness and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   that's what they mean by nate they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   mean like food or oxygen or water and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   think they mean it as in can you get use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:55   and even though I know you don't get us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:58   out of a diamond necklace i guess but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   that's not really how the airport sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   itself is just purely a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   ornament it does sell herself as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   useful item so I think it's a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   question to ask about it it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08   different type of need I think yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   mean I guess I the title i would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   would be ungainly long to people find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   economic utility in the Apple watch like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   that's the title at once i guess i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   see why they might want to use the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:20   need but i always feel like that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   too strong if they want to four letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   word I i think they could say want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   do people want an apple watch like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   think that conveys a much better idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   and like you said there it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   jewelry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   nobody in the world needs jewelry but do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   people want jewelry and its various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:38   yes that is clearly a demand that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   have even though there's just no utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   to it whatsoever but it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   because monkeys like shiny things right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   and so that they want to buy them want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   is slightly the wrong word to for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   they're great because you gave me one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   for Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   I'd say thank you and I maybe where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   occasionally and look at it and so uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   want one I want to look at it and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   with it but nowhere near enough to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   for one so I don't think what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   right word either but i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07   whether right where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   we need a word between need and want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   yeah you're the you're the word man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   Brady yeah I'm uh I'm got that it cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:19   be weighed that was precisely like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   people we'd an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   ok I I don't see any problem with using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:29   a word like that you know within context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32   i'm sure it'd be very clear do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   we'd an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   I don't think so ok I it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:38   it does therefore which have a role in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39   in the world is what is coming down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   is there a role for it in people's life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:45   that is the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   and as we discussed last time like I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   am surprised by the lack of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   watches that I see in the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   it provides a great deal of utility for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   me and I totally love it but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:00   just like I would die to know like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   does Apple internally think about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   own app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   watch I just don't know but speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   things that I weed because of You Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:10   i actually went out and bought an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:17   SE e 0 and I am entirely blaming this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:21   you because we have these conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   sometimes in like you plant a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   thought in my head there's little this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   little irritating grain of sand in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   mind that I don't want their but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   you come along and you just drop into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   brain and you planted one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   irritating grains of sand in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   about the iphone SE when we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   last time I know is I heard the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45   happened I could I could I could yeah as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   I was listening to the podcast i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   hear you like something flip in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55   yeah should be perfect sounds just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1615">TS</a>]

00:27:00   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:01   I so there's these two conflicting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   aspects of my personality regarding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   iphone SE the the primary one which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   was thinking is I know that I'm a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   who likes to have up-to-date technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   that's just part of my personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   that's the way that I am I know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   accept that right and so I thought well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   getting on the iphone SE track this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   no good because apples probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   going to update this for forever but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   you planted this idea of like just try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:28   heap it's like it like a fun romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   fling with this other device like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   just lodged into my brain in this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   that I could not possibly remove and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   I found myself going to the apple store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   like picking up an iphone SE and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   at it like turning it over in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   and turning it over in my mind like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   couldn't let it go and so I eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   caved and I did decide to to get one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:53   so i have been using the iphone SE for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   the past couple of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   Wow and man I just like I forgot how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:05   perfect of a physical size this phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:09   well just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   it's it is like sweet sweet relief after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:16   this long nightmare of the iphone 6 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:20   6s generation you know how pleasurable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   it is to hold a phone and to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:26   thinking I hope this doesn't slide out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   of my hand I can hardly grip that round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   edge like it's it's it's slippery so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   don't drop it right kind like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   thought that is in your head every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   single time you pick up one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   iphone s models or like when i first got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   the original ass like oh this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   it's a little too big and a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   small at the same time like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   these frustrating things like to pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   a phone and to have it one fit entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49   within my hand to have a single thumb be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:53   able to reach every single point on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   screen and 3 hold it securely with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   straight edges on the phone it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:02   amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   it's absolutely amazing i am so happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   be using this size phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   well what about things like the smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12   screen for you know watching video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   heard you got used to the biggest grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   and what about memory and battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   and the other potential drawbacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   yeah there are potentially a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   drawbacks and when you do start using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   at first like some of the icons do seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   ridiculously small and all of the icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   bunch together on the screen seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   point is not a lot of space between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   these iconic everything feels really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   crowded but you get used to it so fast i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   was watching a YouTube video on earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39   that get like you were discussing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   your own words like someone sent me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   thing to review and so I was taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43   look at it on the smaller phone on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:44   go and it didn't even occur to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   oh man I just wish the screen was bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   like it was totally fine for purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:49   like to be able to do some basic work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:53   it like it was absolutely fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   so the smaller screen is is not an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58   this is really interesting i'm convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   my biggest fans giving the IRS I oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   why do you say that I just feel like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   the back of my right hand hurts a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   from when i use a loan from all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   reaching and shimmying and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   I'm gonna go smoke oh yeah and gripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15   it tightly in your hand to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   that it doesn't fall right like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   gotta-i gotta put a death grip on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   like I'm choking a chicken to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   right like you gotta hold on to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   phone you know what the message here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:24   what's the message brandi was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27   oh yeah is that what it is yeah I do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:33   do have to say like you you planting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   that seed in my head as irritating as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:39   found it for i mean i don't know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   two weeks that just kept rolling around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   in my brain and I couldn't let it go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   I was I was genuinely annoyed with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   in this way because it was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   like this is not rational but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   nonetheless like I can't let go of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   thought I am just so happy I'm so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   now and i love this phone design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   probably the biggest challenge going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   back to it i still like i've been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   it for a few days i still have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   sometimes is that again i use my iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   in my left hand and I have to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   really remember how to type with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   single hand and I often catch my right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:12   hand reaching up to help and to type on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   the phone and have to go like no right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   hand now you're not actually helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   here like left hand can handle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   this thing all by itself like it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   all of the typing and so I'm like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   trying to train my right hand to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   come up but i want to try to type with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   two thumbs even though that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   totally impossible but I'm getting used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   to it very quickly that's probably been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   the biggest adjustments but alright let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   me let you out of the wilderness but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   are still in the wilderness bring I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   I know and I'm cabin grreat I'm yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:42   gonna change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   yeah I'm not going I'm not gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   look in the storm this weekend or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   looking at it in the store I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   thinking I'll boy like this size is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   really nice and it's interesting to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   and i love this design like it obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   looks better than the garbage 6 design i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   was thinkin all of those things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   actually using it for a few days is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   seeing in the store x 10 it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   I keep feeling this this word of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   relief like I am relieved to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   phone now it's just so much nicer and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   much more pleasant to use in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   possible way I like that it's smaller i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   find it like in the gym taking it in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   out of my pocket to record like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   exercises better across every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:24   axes i find this phone superior so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:28   i'm going to have a mechanical watch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   your wrist by Christmas little not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34   you will not my friend you will not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:38   our by next June I'm becoming concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:43   with the amount of humility that golfers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   are showing and it's being it's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   led by this guy who's one of the big hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   golfers of the moments got called Jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   space and I know that he's not the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   one who does this but he's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   I really strongly notice doing this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   then there is referring to himself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   way and it and partly that's because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:06   has got a team of people and he has got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   his caddy so when he's on the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   there is a real team teamwork between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:10   the golfer in the caddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   I do get that and I do get that being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   professional golfer this day these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   isn't just like one person there is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   a team around you but this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   humbleness at the end of the round when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   you do something good and saying yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   had a great day and we were really happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   with how we played when really there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   only one person striking the bowl and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:30   doing these things sometimes seems a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   disingenuous i'm not familiar with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   person would he would he really say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   sentence like that we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   yeah we had a really great day today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   and don't get me wrong he has got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:43   caddy standing next to him who is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   more than just carrying his club's I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   understand the role of a caddy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   modern golf but still it reached as enna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   at the recent masters tournament when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   was won by a guy called Danny Willett is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:57   an English guy and he was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   interviewed afterwards he was obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   trying to do the way thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   obviously has become the thing to do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   he was talking about how we're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   happy way and he was sort of slipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   between we and I in this uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   way and it at reaching it reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15   fascicle proportions when he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   about his parents and how much his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   parents did for him when he was growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   up and he said that he said of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   parents he said I hope they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   proud of the person we've become I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   think even the Queen we'd use we in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33   no but it does but it did it did remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   me that this is this is something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   think we as in people like us gray can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:41   be guilty of and I can be guilty of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   they there is I quite often use way home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:48   when referring to things i'm doing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   if I'm talking about something at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   numberphile or something that period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   videos i will often use way and should i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   be using I and partly using way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:02   I do work with all these other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03   and there's all these people i feel- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   huge team effort but if I'm sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   at my desk saying we love all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   tweets ending in and i'm the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   reading them who knows about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   it is a little bit disingenuous of me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   be using way people like me who is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   of individuals but work with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   people i sometimes get myself into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   tangle about when I should use way and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   wonder what you think about that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   didn't really occur to me I mean there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   are scenarios under which may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   theoretically this would be a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31   for me like with the star trek video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   that i made we're connected all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34   artwork but it wouldn't occur to me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   Twitter to say something like we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   really happy with the way the video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   being received like that that would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   would seem like i'm having some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   psychotic break to write a tweet in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:51   way even where it's a case like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52   obviously I didn't draw that artwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   I'm obviously not that talented but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   would seem so strange to use a wee in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2156">TS</a>]

00:36:01   a scenario like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   yeah but I don't feel strange when our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   to a tweet likes I'm tweeting under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:06   periodic videos banner which is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   I work with all these professors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   chemists and stuff and if I say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   really excited about the video we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   putting out tomorrow when i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   sitting at my desk on mine I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18   spoken to the others for a week auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   right they don't know the videos even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   coming out tomorrow right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   it's just you and the dogs there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   yeah so and yeah I feel completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   comfortable saying that I do feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   completely comfortable referring to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   projects with a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   ok I think there's this couple things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   that are different here that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:35   because one you're tweeting from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   periodic videos tweet right and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   have a separate Brady Haran twitter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   is you as an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   so this is periodic videos the corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   entity talking about what everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:52   done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53   in the same way like we don't really use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   this is that we have a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   sense it's all tangled in my friend you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   you and I Brady you and I do not tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:03   from the hello Internet twitter account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   very often i don't think i would go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   to the hello Internet Twitter account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   and make any kind of statement in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   first person I I don't think I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   that right i think if i hit you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   use the Twitter account to announce that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   you and I are going to be recording an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   episode i think i would use the word we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   if I was tweeting from the hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   internet account we are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   recording tonight is there anything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   should talk about that seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   natural because it's you and me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   yeah i think though where you run into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   more trouble to hopefully poison your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   mind to keep it is whenever you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42   talking about any of your videos because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   you are not on camera very often in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:49   of your projects objectivity is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   notable exception but for like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   numberphile you're behind the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   hmm you know sometimes the audience will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   hear you ask a question right in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   you're there but the person you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   filming is the visual on-screen presence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:05   yeah and you are the editing presence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   and so it seems like it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   impossible for you to talk about any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   your number file like videos in anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   other than a week yeah because it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   so intrinsically a multi-person project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:21   even though you are doing the filming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   and you are doing the editing you aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   really doing any of the explaining like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   someone else's on camera doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   talking like you're guiding that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   editing that it's obviously the two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   you so from now on you should never use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   the first person singular when referring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38   to any of your videos like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   should always usually that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   yeah yeah even if you're tweeting from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46   from Brady Haran we are quite pleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   with the reception of the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   numberphile video that's that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   should do from now on the main reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53   started that Brady Haran Twitter was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   was getting myself into such a pickle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   with disentangling myself from they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:01   in being in projects but they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:04   mask you're being another use of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05   weave out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   yeah what do you think when i say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:10   couple you know comes up to you and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   say it like at a dinner party something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   they go we have an exciting announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   we're pregnant what do you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   that use of the way i am not a fan of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   I don't want to offend anyone but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   think i think only one person can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   pregnant in that scenario i appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   the Solidarity of it and if you choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   to do it i respect to X if someone came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   up to me and said we're pregnant I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37   wouldn't laugh at them and say you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:38   idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39   only she is but it's not it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   path i would choose yeah you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   you wouldn't go that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:45   no I i think it seems strange yeah but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:49   but I get it you know in the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   world and look at you look at you being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52   all diplomatic you've got you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   have to be sometimes you have to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   don't think you have to be I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   it's better to say that the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   is pregnant was pregnant I guess if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   come up and say we're pregnant it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   away my ability to make the host the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   father joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08   yeah yeah there it is that is that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:13   go-to very few people announced they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   pregnant father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:19   it depends on the air depends on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   the toad turn of the announcement I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   think you could say we're having a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25   and I'd be really comfortable with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   no I think any one person can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   biologically pregnant I have no such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32   compulsion to avoid defense in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   whenever I hear anyone say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:37   pregnant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:38   I just internally i'm thinking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   how stupid you sound right now if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   think i know i don't like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   supposed to be a moment where I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   happy for you but really internally i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   can't help but the reflexive thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   like you sound like idiots at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   moment right saying we're pregnant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   no you're not pregnant she's pregnant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   you got her pregnant that's how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   works we are having a baby is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   appropriate way to phrase that you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   having a baby but the we're pregnant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   thing it seems like bizarre over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   solidarity aside from just being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   idiot like it's almost creepy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   there's something about it which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   I don't know it's like it's too much man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   this is a nice segue to Brady's papercut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19   because i haven't done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:20   ladies papercut for a while it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21   forever it has been over but my paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:25   cut that I wanted to bring up today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   also to do with the turn of phrase em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   that works me and I want to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:33   you stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   mhm if something happens and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:39   particularly bothered by your shrugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   about it which is often your response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   it as saying you may use is I blank care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:50   less what would the blank baby you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   couldn't care less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   I couldn't care less thank you i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   lots of people say I could care less i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2516">TS</a>]

00:42:00   think this is an Americanism I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   know and no man that annoys me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   it completely changes the meaning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   what you sayin it's the opposite and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:10   takes away the impact saying i could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   care less is like funny saying I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   care less means there is scope for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   care less so I do care to some extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   and it's taken away all the meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:21   you're trying to give of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   completely different i agree i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   couldn't care less is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   appropriate way to phrase this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   Thank You there's no other way to phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   this and yes it is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   unintentionally hilarious that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   person gives the exact reverse of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   they are usually trying to say people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39   oh I could care this really so you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   care do that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42   no I don't care what you just said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   could care less so that mean yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   think this is one of those cases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:48   in language you you often have cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   where people don't even hear or think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   about the words they're saying there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   just a phrase that exists that expresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   a thing and the person is not thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   about the actual words i just came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04   across something like this the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   when i use some phrase and I had to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   and I felt like what does that even mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   we could like these words that I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   said i know the feeling that i'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   to express but has never occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14   to examine these actual words before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17   really good example of that i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   think it's not phrase but a word is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   breakfast like the word breakfast has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:25   transcended breaking the fast now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   moon and no one thinks of breaking fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   when they say breakfast breakfast its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   own thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   that transcends its origins that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   a good way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36   and I think maybe maybe Brady if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   feeling in accepting food you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39   accept I could care less as breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:43   that the person is you know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   trying to express and they're just using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:48   a sequence of sounds to express that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   now now you know you're not gonna you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   not gonna go with that you know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/2633">TS</a>]

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00:51:31   yeah like in Southampton wherever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   to let you know restock before its next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   mission people will come to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   they'll have their photo taken with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   and that's a magnificent opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   then say look I know it's got a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42   let us tell you a bit about the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   we're doing and like this was a you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   right this was a gift horse this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   backfired terribly and instead it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   this i'm actually surprised it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   get through the gray bubble because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   even became bit of a main for a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   and and people were like were adopting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   determine people would say our look it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   great grey face and let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:03   you know people would work changing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   to whatever whatever they wanted that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   not this is the mutation that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   take this right here this was fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   and then to come to appear like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:12   like a grumpy parent like to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   draconian about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   I think I think that mr. trick and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   I kind of get if i was spending hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   of millions of pounds on a ship that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   really proud of and I had and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   it was going to have a magnificent night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   and I had a silly night i might think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   yeah yeah but that but if you did that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   because you're a grump with no sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:32   humor or delight or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   and that's why because they're your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   government commission or something dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   and you don't understand how the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   works and what's delights and sparks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   people's interest right that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   why you're in the position that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   in right now that's probably why you ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   this internet election the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51   didn't like the most cursory of research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54   would have revealed that this would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   terrible way to run into an election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   like this is not the first time someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   has opened up with something to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   public for the internet to vote on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03   was like guess what they truly do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   thing that you want them to do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   almost by definition you are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   get opposite results from what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   the first one of these I can ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   remember is this is ages ago but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:16   first one was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   I think was t-shirt hell but this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   who ran this t-shirt selling company he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   ran a poll on the internets to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   his name like he didn't like his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   anything at all that the internet select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28   my name and now he's named sunshine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:31   Megatron I think that's like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:35   what happens it huh yeah like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:39   there's like a a now decade-plus history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:42   of this kind of nonsense happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   yeah i don't i also wonder how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   times they're gonna have to paint over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   someone breaking into the docks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   middle of the night putting proteomic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   place on the side of the thing anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:54   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:54   yeah that's exactly what's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   mr. splashy pants was another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   these things where Greenpeace had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   internet name to pick like a humpback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   whale they wanted to name and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   it comes with mr. splashy pants and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   was a similar thing about like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08   no there was some pushback about it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   this is a long time ago this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:11   like the earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   reddit history kind of things like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   is always what's going to happen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   you're gonna do you want the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   and name your thing like be careful what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   you wish for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   but if they're going to name it like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   the love of God don't go against what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   they you just like you're guaranteed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   just to make everybody angry and I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   with you I wouldn't be the least bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   surprised if they end up having to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   with vandalism like people spray-painted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   nobody mcboatface lives across the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:39   of the but it's interesting seeing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   big organizations interact with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   internet and always just feels like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   guys know what you're doing like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   there anyone on your staff who's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   been on the internet the kids you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   this through to take the other side for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   a minute because it's only fair and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54   see the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55   hmm this is like a funny joke for a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   or two but like you hadn't heard of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   and the joke will go away and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   forget about it in a few weeks this boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   sorry it's not actually about which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   another issue this ship would be built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   for another couple of years and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   will probably be in service for 20 or 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13   years is that is that right to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16   this flash-in-the-pan joke on the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   of the ship for all that time when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   could do something a bit more dignified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   cold call at the david attenborough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   somethin okay let me ask you something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   how many boats in the world can you name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   well yeah yeah I I only a handful right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:35   but they all have very majestic names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   like the Queen Mary and and the Queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   Elizabeth and things like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   don't have names like silly Mick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   silliness right but the thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   majestic names don't guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   notability because every boat has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   majestic name right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   this is this is one way that this boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   will at least be remembered and known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   about for a long period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   this makes it stand out like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   funny thing it's a it's a bit of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:04   history that goes along with it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   unique among the boats i don't agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   with the like over 30 years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   we're going to have to be telling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   story about how we're an internet poll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13   in the name of protein mcboatface like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   that's that's part of the fun of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   think that's what makes it unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   I didn't I cry out about it let me argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   the point then I think it's incumbent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   leaders and people in position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   of authority to think beyond and Mimi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:29   joke for a couple of weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30   it's easy for you and I to see here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   don't get me wrong i know i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   saying they should call the boat in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35   face but it's easy for you and I to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   here and think it amuses us and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:40   amused the internet let's do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   whereas there are other people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:43   to think about other considerations I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   mean in 10 years the people who run this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   ship are going to be applying to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   different government in a different time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   in a different area to a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   funding body saying can we have 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   million dollars for our penguin research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   aboard the botty mcboatface and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:01   and I think and that's going to hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:02   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03   that's gonna hurt him because of a jokey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   decision that's made now whereas if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   said can we will it hurt them though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   don't think that's a guaranteed thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   don't know i think could I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   people who bequeathed large sums of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   money and her allocate funds are drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:20   to integrity and seriousness more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:24   they are to joke eNOS and and flippant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27   things and I think labeling at boaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   mcboatface for all time will always be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:33   bit of a wink-wink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   are they serious but don't you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   stand out in the application pile i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38   think that the legitimate argument well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   yeah you could stand out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   application power by dressing up as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   clown as well standing out doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   always mean success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   nope sure doesn't I do see the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   argument I do i do think go with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53   might mind over all things considered I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   don't say roll with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   not such a bad name that it's gonna hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   you forever it's not like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00   said that's called the Adolf Hitler yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   but but i do even even the adults Hitler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:06   I would feel like you got off lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   right yeah well I could have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   something else but i probably contravene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   some of my yeah i mean that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   policies like yeah he could be called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   like the cup make peace with yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   but right like that's what I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   recall i think it is you feel quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   of baits for the episode there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   yeah like that could easily happen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26   it easily I do have some sympathy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:30   putting your foot down and saying no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   we're going to have a we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   have a more dignified night one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   best suggestions i read was someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:38   because it's not actually about anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   but it does have like a little small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   boat on it presumably to go into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   little coastal runs to go and see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   Penguins like the captain's yacht and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   star trek basically yeah call the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   mini-boat boaty mcboatface and give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   big ship not shipping mixture place but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54   it happened like like it give the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:57   ship it's dignified name but at least to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   do a nod to boaty mcboatface by calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   the small one that which I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   not a bad compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   now now now now but now it doesn't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:08   compromise no compromise don't accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:11   that internet I'm actually talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14   myself out of calling a boaty mcboatface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   now i can i can hear it in your voice as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:18   you go on this is what happens like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19   you initially take the other side is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   devil's advocate and then you suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   find yourself on the other side but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   is what makes you good at your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   I'm very persuasive great i can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   save myself after much to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:33   throwing and spiking a nun spiking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   did do you your encryption Apple hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:38   I phony videos i did United that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:44   were there was a bit of anguish about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:46   there was no vanquished about this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   as you fight if you thought i should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   ahead with making the video we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:51   know no you haven't you even gave me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   sneaky look at a script yeah I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   your input on it you talked you told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:57   to go ahead a bunch of people told me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   so yes I i did make it despite several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   weeks ago the case that brought this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   originally was this whole like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   versus the FBI thing with the FBI wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   Apple to open up their phone and make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11   bunch of data available and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   it's a whole big complicated thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   tons of details that don't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   but i was working on a script about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   and then that whole thing just ended and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   i thought like oh well this is over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   then I thought the script was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:23   useless after that point but the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   is not over and I i did end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   continuing to work on it thanks partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   to the encouragement of you and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   other people and so yeah I put two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33   videos of which are sort of about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   Apple FBI thing without ever mentioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   the Apple or the FBI thing because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   think there's a there's a much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   question here which is about encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:44   just in general I have two questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   great em both of them will portray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:49   perhaps ignorance in the subject that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   okay i buy revel in my ignorance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   the first one is about this warrants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   searching because obviously there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:58   this different situation that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   know judge can issue a warrant and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   police can break your door down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:05   search your house if you if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:06   don't let them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07   what's the situation with phones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   terms of if you were still alive who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   the judge said the police have the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16   to look into cgp grace phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   great please enter the code so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:19   police can look em presumably you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:23   compelled to do that under and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   don't know put you in prison for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:26   contempt of court like I'm assuming they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   can still do that because also they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:30   that with you know when people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   texting while they were driving and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   things like that are what's the what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   the law there i'm not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   Apple breaking into the fine which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   think is very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   yeah the different that's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:41   question what's the situation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42   compelling use the phone owner to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   presumably that's like any other warrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   and a judge can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   the answer is it depends on where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   live yeah and so if we take where we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   right now in the United Kingdom the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   United Kingdom has written into the lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:59   that they can compel you to reveal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:02   passwords to your devices right so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:05   you're involved in a trial in the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06   they can say open up your phone and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   you say no there are criminal penalties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12   force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   a no-no that's its time in prison you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   in contempt of the coal crackling enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   your time in solitary until you open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   this phone like that that's what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:20   to happen you have to choose not to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   they're going to compel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   yeah now what I think is of a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:29   interesting unique and I think important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:34   part of the US legal system is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   protection against self-incrimination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   now yeah some other places have this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   the United States has a particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   strong version of this we're essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:48   like the court cannot compel you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   speak or to act and so in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   States if you have a phone and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   open up this phone you are legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   allowed to just sit there and do nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   you don't have to comply and they cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   punish you for non-compliance around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:08   so this places the burden on the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:11   to prove things like you are you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   incriminate yourself and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17   where a lot of the really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   parts around this issue turn my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:23   understanding i might not be one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   percent accurate about this my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   understanding though is that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:27   little wrinkle with the fingerprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   sensor that police in the united states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:34   can compel you to like touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:38   fingerprint sensor there's like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   something about this we're like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40   police are allowed to put the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   against your finger and that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   actually count as compelling you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   anything right and so like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   fingerprint sensor is like a is a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   a weird loophole in this so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   ways that they can try to legally get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   into your phone but they can't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   can't make you reveal the password which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   there there's some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58   consequences to both sides of these for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:02   example i think the right to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:06   remain silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   I really think that should be part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   every legal system because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   things that I don't like about the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15   system where they can compel you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   speak is that you can end up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   situations where you are trapped so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:24   mean let's say that the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   read your home and within your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:29   file somewhere is an encrypted file that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32   you don't know anything about that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   like you downloaded from somewhere like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   some malware put on your computer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   whatever you can be in a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   they want to compel you to open that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:41   file and it's like I can't I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:44   the password then like well we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   make you think about that like go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:47   and sit in prison until you're able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:49   open up this file i don't like the even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   the legal possibility of of a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   like that occurring I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57   a good thing to have in a legal system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   that a person is required to perform an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:03   action in order to not be in prison i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   very strongly on the opposite side like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   the burden should be on the state to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   everything to prove your guilt not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:14   other way around like I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:15   making things super easy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   government to put people in prison I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   think it definitionally should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   difficult thing I'm sure I've seen lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   of American TV shows where people put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   prison for being in contempt of court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   until they cough up the name or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29   cough up a source or something so surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   there are some situations in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   where they compel people to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   well I know you shouldn't base your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   knowledge of the lower on American TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   shows but i'm going to guess most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   those cases have to do with a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45   horrible plea bargaining system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   occurs in the united states there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   many ways in which you can be held in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:52   prison like awaiting a trial and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   there's this whole question about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   what counts as a speedy trial in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   United States how long can they keep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   just waiting around like I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   certainly an amount of of wiggle room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03   about that i'm just talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   situation like when you get to a trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08   like a trial is occurring what can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   happen in in that scenario but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   u.s. like his kidney to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   about this but it's it is a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   situation like very very few cases ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   make it to trial they are all handled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:22   this very very high stakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:25   confrontational high-pressure plea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   bargain kind of way where a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   normal protections just don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30   because you're like bargaining with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   lawyers so I think I imagine like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35   what you're thinking about that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36   occurring there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:36   another thing about your video on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   encryption that struck me who was a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42   of not that it was your job to question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:46   but you can't have had an unquestioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   faith in the integrity of encryption and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:53   I don't know whether that's founded on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   and I know that how how safe is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:59   mathematical encryption I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   I've done videos about and I'm i'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   of some of the things involved and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:04   prime numbers and and how it works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   things but you know with that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   know where quantum computing is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   at yea yea and things like that so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14   mean hell with you you're assuming a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   about the integrity of encryption when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   you're making your arguments to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   question that in your head there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:22   is a brief moment in the video in one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:25   the slides where I make a reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   on the screen there's a visual reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:28   to quantum computing just messin all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   this up because I didn't want to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   get it on record like I acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:33   there are future technological problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36   that may undo all of our current state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   of of encryption they may actually end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   up introducing with quantum computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   greater levels of encryption but we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   certainly say like stuff encrypted today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   could be quite trivial for a quantum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:51   computer years from now to unencrypt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   like that we may very well be in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55   case but there's two things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:58   going on here like one is just this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   of as a person can you encrypt data on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:08   your computer in such a way so that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11   one can practically access it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   answer to that is yes because as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:18   we know unless the NSA has some secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   quantum computer somewhere they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   telling us about like an individual on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:25   their own computer can encrypt files in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:29   a way that it makes them essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   unavailable for the rest of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   presuming no massive technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:34   changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   and I think that's like that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:40   interesting fact and i was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:43   forever to come up with an analogy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:44   explain like how is this the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   because when people think about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   locking something away fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:51   what you're doing is you are putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   thing in a container and you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   to make the container really secure but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   the thing is still inside the container [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   but the way encryption works is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:04   like well if you encrypt if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:07   encrypted drive on your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:10   it's almost like the data isn't there on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   the drive anymore until you enter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15   password to like she move all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   bits back around into a readable fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   so it's it's not like someone can crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:22   into it like you can break into a safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   and retrieve the thing like encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   because of the magic of mathematics like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:28   it makes this stuff not there until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:31   password is provided like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   there's nothing to break you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   splitting hairs now that I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36   like if I had a completely unbreakable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   safe with a million dollars and I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   say well the million dollars isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42   really there because the skin is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43   unbreakable safe but there's no physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   say that you could build its unbreakable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   well you could argue there's no form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:50   encryption of the data that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   unbreakable to I don't know but see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   is your assumption you're so now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   that encryption is unbreakable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:57   I am saying that like my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   of this is that if if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02   encrypted drive it with a secure enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:05   password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06   the only way to get that password is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   brute force it and like all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   computing technology in the world will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:11   not let you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   basically you're saying to me you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   have faith in modern encryption barring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17   people having password 123 or right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   I think stupid you do have faith in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   encryption but and fair enough fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:25   enough maybe you're right maybe I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   know that encryption i guess a bit of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   elephant in the room and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   more has come out about this or you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   have your own theory but the the FBI did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:36   suddenly saying this said their do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   know San Bernardino case ma'am they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   suddenly said I we've got into the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   now I had to get into it so this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47   it the other issue that i'm not touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   on in the video because I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:52   keep it like oh we're in the Platonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   ideal of encrypting a phone right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   that that is the realm in which my video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4258">TS</a>]

01:10:59   yeah right but there is a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   separate unrelated issue which is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   secure can a particular company make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:08   particular model of phone and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:12   the question which i'm not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:13   because the answer is like there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   been tons of security exploits with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:18   apple stuff and android phones over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   years and various models of phones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   they are no stranger to various ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25   people breaking into their particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:28   phones right like that that definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31   exists and apple overtime has i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:35   just speak about because that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   I'm more familiar with but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:37   overtime has tried to increase the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   security of their phones and if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42   to read a document which I think exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   at the intersection of fascinating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48   deadly boring apple makes a lot of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:51   security documents available online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:54   i was reading through a bunch of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   where they talk about how their security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   systems work and like they have such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:01   difficult problem because the example i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:04   was using before where you are an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   individual on your own computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   attempting to encrypt your own files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:11   against very straightforward you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   that with with available software but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   Apple is in this difficult position of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   like they want to sell you a device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:21   they want to be able to remotely update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:24   to make changes to write and in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27   you are also going to put on your data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30   like that's an incredibly difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   thing to do like they want your data to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   be secure on the phone while also they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:39   have the ability to remotely change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:42   software on the phone like it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   really occurred to me before reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:45   through some of the security documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:46   but that is a hell of a hard problem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   solve and it's fascinating like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:51   the ways that they have tried to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   about this like they you know each phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:56   has like this randomly burned in series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   of on and off transistors that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   use is like this local thing to encrypt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   the files and they combine that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   like data from your fingerprint like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   they do they are doing so much crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:08   stuff to try to prevent them prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:12   Apple to prevent anybody else from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   able to access the data on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   except you and it's so hard especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19   when you consider like most people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:20   using a 4-digit pin on their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:22   so it's it's a fascinating problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   they have but because their situation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   not straightforward because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:29   putting out into the world these phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31   that they also want some level of access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:32   to this is one of the reasons why there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   are particular security flaws in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:38   phones that do allow people to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   access like Apple tries to fix them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4420">TS</a>]

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01:21:46   websites about selling diamonds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48   there's gonna be a ton of circumstance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49   actual evidence that they can use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   build up the case against you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   nothing more powerful than your brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   just saying yes i did a little like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:58   this perfect breeding machine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4918">TS</a>]

01:21:59   straightaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:00   I've got you by reading in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   regardless of all this evidence and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   so I think the criminal example just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:07   folks to pieces because no one forgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   their criminal and I and just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:10   clear i agree with you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:12   i I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   opposite position that like if I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   actually a diamond hyster then yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:19   would rather have someone look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   phone then have my own brain and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:25   back the memory of like here's me doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   this diamond heights now let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   you're talking about like just your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31   friend like are you going to let me read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:33   your mind gray or are you gonna let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:35   look at your fine and if i look at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:36   phone I'll see all the texts and emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:39   you sent to your friends and family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:40   saying our brain is really pissing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:42   off today and they're all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:43   embarrassing things right that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:45   want me to say and you've even feel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:47   you forgotten you even set the right of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:48   course like you you forgotten someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   you pissed off at me two years ago it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   would be really embarrassing if I then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:53   read it because you don't even feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55   way anymore you but I still think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   much more damaging if I'm able to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   into your brain and find out your true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:02   real feelings like I don't like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   he looks so I don't like the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   smells or you know because that's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   more truth if i look at your phone I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   have my feelings hurt but at least I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   could tell myself I would like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   two years ago and I was big bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   dick that day so fair enough but if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19   can go straight into your brain and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:21   your innermost feelings and your deepest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:24   thoughts that's much more potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   hurtful or private and sure you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:32   remember little details but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:33   core of who you are in your brain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35   you can tell me it changes over time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   that but i think that's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   damaging our can't see a circumstance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   where I think being able to read my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:45   would be less damaging than being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   to read my fine i certainly don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:48   people to read my phone will and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:50   right i forgot her more than half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   stuff in it and it would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:53   embarrassing but being able to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55   my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56   we're all my deepest darkest thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   are things I would never even right into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   a phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:01   I don't want people going in there so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:05   I I genuinely feel if we were sitting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07   the pub and I could hand you my phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:08   hand you my brain I'd rather hand you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:11   it's pretty interesting guy I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   yeah go ahead look through like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15   obviously they'd be embarrassing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17   in my brain but I feel like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   phone you know again assuming that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22   were able to like understand everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25   on the phone in the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26   are able to understand everything on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   brain i feel like there's potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:30   way worse stuff on the phone that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:31   can't even remember or think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:34   like you said stuff that is not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   relevance now but could somehow be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   damaging like it just feels like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   so much more potential there then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:43   what's in my brain now like no I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:46   whole lot i don't agree because with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:49   this braid with this hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:50   operating that were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:51   appreciating I can I can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:53   interrogate you for what I want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55   your opinions and feelings I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:58   presuming that i'm presuming that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5098">TS</a>]

01:24:59   would have access to the state of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   brain in the same way that i have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:03   to the state of my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:04   surely that's more damaging because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   could find out really personal things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   about you that you would never have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   committed to your phone before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   yeah but i don't know like did years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   me commit really personal stuff to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:18   I don't know possibly probably i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   know i'm not saying there's none of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:21   there of course there's gonna be tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:23   and tons of it but not more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:26   ability for me just to read your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:27   and find out what you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:28   everything I guess what I feel here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   like I am more confident in the limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:34   content of my brain that I am in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36   what seems like near-infinite content of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:39   my phone it's almost like a devil you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41   know vs devil you don't know situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43   here and if you like the phone is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   devil i don't know like dear god what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   did I type into that thing three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   ago I have no idea but let's not let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51   anybody look at that I don't even want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53   to look at that I'd enough i should read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:56   into this that you're actually just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:57   really really lovely person in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   brain or that you're really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:00   worried about what you would like a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:03   let me ask you something else about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:09   though era because all of this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:13   encryption stuff or like reading your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:14   mind reading your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   I feel like this is all a sideshow in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   the same way that like the star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:20   video was all like a sideshow to what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:21   thought was the actual point what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:24   think about taking the phone or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:28   digital devices in your life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30   considering them in a legal sense as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:33   extension of the self within and here i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:36   want to say like let's talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:38   in the context of American law or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   you are not obligated to incriminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   yourself and so in some sense like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:46   is legal protection for the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   your brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:49   what what do you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:50   establishing some kind of legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51   precedent to say like we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   decide that a person's phone is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:57   off-board brain and this is legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   protected as part of the self in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:02   same way that we protect people's brains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   as part of the self or interesting i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:08   think my first instinct is no because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:11   everything going into your phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:14   still a document that paperwork who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:18   every every photo and just because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   becoming a lot more prolific with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   creation of the paperwork doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   them it's not paperwork so my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:27   instinct is now these are all still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:28   these are also documents that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   treated as separate from who we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:33   whether or not that means everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:34   should you know whether or not it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   just open season on people saying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:37   is another question but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   questionable about the paper i have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   my cupboard you know not everyone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   look at that other right but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   talking about it i got like in illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:46   contact here right that we can just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:50   that you are falsely accused of a crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:52   but none-the-less like there is a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:54   somehow live in America but nonetheless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:55   there's a warrant to seize all of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:58   your documents right and and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   question I think is like does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:01   include all of the documents on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:04   phone or is it just limited to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:05   documents in your house like how how far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:09   can that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:10   I guess the phone could start becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:11   quite handy refuge of the criminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   couldn't because phone so powerful now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   and could hold so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:16   you just do everything with your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:18   and put everything in your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:19   comfortable in the knowledge that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:22   could never be scrutinized no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:24   what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:25   so what you can do that with your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:28   brain now right like you know I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:30   criminals in the past they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:31   option of not committing things to paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:34   yeah I don't think criminals could use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37   thing it to me is always one like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:39   worst argument ever look good there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41   have tools and criminals can use tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:44   but tools are still good we don't ban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46   tools of any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:47   it's true i'm only asking because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:49   think this is the part of the video but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:52   we also don't we also don't ban the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:53   police from the fingerprinting those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   tools are checking the bloodstains on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:56   the master crimes committed right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   and and i think that's that's where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:00   this balance comes in right of how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:04   power do we grant to authorities where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:06   do we set the boundaries of personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:09   liberty like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:10   where is that edge that the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:13   think this is so important is is just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15   back to the mind-reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:16   ever-so-slightly I don't think that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:19   live in a world where it is unreasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:20   to expect that at some point we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:23   will be able to build essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:24   mind-reading machines right or close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:27   enough and then and then I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:30   boy the American legal system has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32   really interesting question their of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:34   we legally protect your right to not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:37   anything does that but do we legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:39   protect your right to not be in a brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:42   scanner that's an interesting question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   am I my gut reaction is that protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   against self-incrimination should extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:50   to the mind just in general so that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   the future scenario where we do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54   brain reading machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:56   you should not be able to compel someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:58   to go in a brain reading machine i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:01   that counts of self-incrimination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:02   yeah that was the most hesitant yes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:06   the world do you think so do you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:07   think so are we assuming a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:10   flawless braiding machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   let's assume that it actually works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:13   right it it works as well as as someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:16   reading a piece of paper works i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:17   it comes down to whether or not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   think the the system is this legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:21   systems main goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:25   is to establish truth and then executes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:30   justice or to protect people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:34   getting themselves in trouble and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:36   you've got an absolutely perfect perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:39   hundred percent platonic brain reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:41   machine wooooo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:43   well that's the end of course isn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:44   words did you killer well that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   said let's find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   perfect range machine yes i did killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:51   here's the circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:53   what you gonna do about it what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:54   justice and the only reason to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:57   protect the rights of the people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:58   self-incriminating is floors in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:00   legal system but you've given me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:02   flawless machine to find out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   happened i don't actually agree that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:07   perfect mind reading machine would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:08   the end of the legal system are you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:10   also talking about false memories or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12   because people can be wrong about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:14   state of their own mind while they're ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:16   I was sort of my platonic machine had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5476">TS</a>]

01:31:18   gotten around that problem right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20   yeah but now you're just talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   magic machine right beginning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   people are are often wrong about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   state of of their own yet right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   which starts get you into such strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:30   things and you know and it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:32   these cases where when high-profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:35   crimes occur it is not unusual for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:38   police to get tons of just confessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40   from people or places like oh I did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:41   crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:42   oh no you didn't you just crazy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   here a lunatic you think you did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   but you didn't do this so yeah machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   isn't magic but it is a perfect brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   reading machine and that's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   thing I mean what a perfect legal at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   justice system create a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:57   people didn't remain silent everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:59   just calmly without pressure told what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:02   they think their version of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:03   and then people came to decisions i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:06   this current situation where people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08   just keep don't and not incriminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   himself who is is there to protect them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:13   from all of the pressures that are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:18   and all the floors in the legal system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:19   there so with a more idealized ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:23   not have people remaining silent they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26   would tell their version of events and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:27   then this amazing judge would hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29   everyone's version of events told calmly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:31   and rationally and fairly and can weigh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   them and look at the evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:37   it feels like the people's right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:38   remain silent which I am in favor of who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:41   is there because we haven't is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:44   because we have a flawed system who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:47   now York your sort of playing fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49   the ecosystems and removing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:50   flaws and I think if we have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:52   floors being removed this right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:55   remain silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:56   I don't see the need for anymore yes I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5576">TS</a>]

01:33:00   don't think I'm playing fantasy legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:01   system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:02   my concern is that you have a legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:03   system which is still like today you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:07   know it's it's it's made of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:09   you have trials and you have lawyers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   have like all these conflicting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:12   interests but you just happen to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14   piece of technology that allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:15   read the thoughts and contents of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17   person's mind with this with the fluid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:20   system just one new piece of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:21   obviously i think people should still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:23   have the right to remain silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:24   ok ok that's yeah okay so i will type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:28   sorry i was taking fantasy legal system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29   to extremes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:30   yeah i mean i agree with you in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:32   perfect world we have no problems as I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:35   agree with agree with that point but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:38   just thinking like an actual an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:41   progression of today's technology like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:42   that they're there was reading around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:43   some people were saying like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:44   some super interesting stuff about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   how the the resolution of brain scanning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   technology is increasing over time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50   that there are some extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:52   rudimentary examples of trying to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:56   things like color thoughts out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:58   person's brain like someone's thinking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:00   color like you can identify what color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:02   their thinking by brain scan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:03   I just some just some really weird stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05   like that it's like ok well I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:07   where this is going like it's not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09   principle impossible to do so it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12   like I think it's inevitable will end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14   with something that can at least be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16   kind of brain scanner at some point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:18   that's why i genuinely genuinely worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:22   about this stuff but the but the related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   thing is this idea about like where does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   if if as you do you agree that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:32   presume we don't have a perfect legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   system there is still room and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36   reason for the protection against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:38   self-incrimination then I also think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:41   are going to very rapidly get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43   world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:44   you have to start wondering what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:47   boundaries of the South right where do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:50   we draw that line about what counts as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:53   self-incrimination and I thought like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:56   was just by coincidence but people but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58   bunch of people sent me that the Devi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:00   that video went up there was a news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:02   story about someone who had a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:05   chip implanted in their brain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:08   allows them they were an amputee but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   that allowed them to control of an arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:13   like just with their thoughts and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:17   are pointing out like well that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19   actually a super interesting case like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:22   could you have a warrant for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:25   information recorded on that computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   chip in that person's brain obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29   right now it's not storing or recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31   a lot of information but it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   interesting legal question could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:36   write a warrant to say please turn over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:38   the information on that computer chip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:40   that person's brain and like my gut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:43   feeling is no like that that chip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:46   part of the self of that person its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:49   is not a separate entity it is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:52   equivalent of a piece of paper lying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:54   someone's desk I I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56   different and I and I also feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5756">TS</a>]

01:36:00   use our phones and our digital devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   so much now as off-board brains that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:06   really do think the amount that we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:09   them inches them into this category of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:11   legal protection for the sound and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13   think it's important to set this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:15   precedent like for the future i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:19   do think like this is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:21   legal question in some court in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:24   country in the nearish future about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26   trying to subpoena information for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:29   piece of technology that is like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:31   person is going to happen is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:34   happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:35   I mean I can't speak to the chip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:38   Chipping the person that is the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   if I was accused of a crime 15 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:43   mhm police could have gone through a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45   letters and gone through a few photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:48   albums with solid printed photos stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51   in them and I wouldn't have found out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:53   lot to help them and now they could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:55   through my phone and find a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:57   photos I've taken everyday wear and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:59   at a million emails i've sent and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:02   look at all my movements and and now a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:03   lot more so obviously what's in my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:06   is a lot more incriminating them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:09   existed 10 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:11   hmm the question is at what point did at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5831">TS</a>]

01:37:16   what point between that scratchy old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:18   photo album and the letters and my shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20   fine with all the information at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:21   point was the threshold crossed where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24   became part of me define became part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26   me I five it's impossible to draw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:29   line to say okay once you go over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:32   thousand photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:33   it's now maybe it's no longer a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:36   album it's me once you've got over 2000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:40   messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:40   it's no longer documents it's now a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:44   of me you know i don't know where at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46   what point my phone became me this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:48   the classic like where is the boundary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50   problem that you run into a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:51   stuff there is no good way to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54   that question and I think you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:55   that question way more difficult by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:58   imagining a theoretical person who makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:02   a physical copy of every single file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:04   that is on their phone right that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:06   are just a tremendous paper hoarder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:07   living in a gigantic mansion filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:10   reams and reams of paper of their GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:13   coordinates for every second and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:15   the messages and all of the photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:16   all of the emails and like you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:19   how many pages of paper you would need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20   to print out to be the equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22   like 4k 60 frames per second video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:25   they've taken like you can imagine in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27   theory a person living in this mansion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:29   with all of this stuff all of this crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31   and then but my feeling is like over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:35   those papers aren't them right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:36   that's my initial feeling even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   all of the information would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:39   theoretically be the same that somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41   like oh but that seems different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:43   yeah does that make any sense no that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:45   doesn't make any sense at all but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:47   emotional reaction is that it's somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:50   different when it is all contained on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:53   device that is never far away that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:56   with you all the time that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58   different somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:01   but I'm also willing to accept that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:03   may in the future state look back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05   this and say oh no the dividing line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:07   when the devices started going in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   bodies right that L and iphone obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:12   the iphone isn't really an extension of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:14   the self that which is ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:15   hyperbole but this right this chip in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:19   head which is connected to the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   with which I can store memories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:22   download new thoughts like that chip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24   my head obviously is part of myself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:27   the way that a phone isn't like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:29   that's a more natural more natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:31   boundary that does seem like crossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:34   the threshold into kind of sacred ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36   doesn't at once it's once it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38   physically once it's physically touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:41   a at every second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:44   maybe that helps maybe that will help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:45   draw a line yeah but what if you take an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:48   iphone to your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:49   checkmate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMW07P2I/5989">TS</a>]