Cortex 10: Zero Artistic Skills
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10 episodes in our still just don't know what to do
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the star of the show to start the show it was very awkward about it will now
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you're turning it into a tiny segment which is Mike awkwardly tries to start
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the show you complain about the schedules and this is what I complain
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about to do the best part is I do nothing to help you know you make it
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worse I just sit here and I way to go Mike gonna start the show let me see
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what he does and then I say something and you just go up and try and stop the
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yeah I draw attention to it which makes it worse and so this is what we do know
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I see you have a line in a document which you've placed before the follow-up
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section that you seem to have a video game recommendation yeah I put at the
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top there because using to be in charge of all the show notes I don't want to
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mess up all your beautiful show notes if I ever write anything I'm just gonna put
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it at the top and you can put it wherever you want if there's one thing I
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have learned Mike which is that if if you doing a show which is vaguely about
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work and being self-employed the thing people really want to hear about is
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video games seems that way because anytime we mention it the red it becomes
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full of video games so I was looking for feedback on mind maps and I do have one
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but there was nothing in the right but we hear about video games again yes we
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did the conclusion to draw from this is that people who are self-employed they
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have a lot of time for video games maybe something that interests them but that
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oh I guess let me let me mention something then which is when i was i was
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just editing the last episode of Internet to it went up yesterday after a
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big thing marathon I was looking for something else to play and maybe a
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little young for this Mike but did you ever play a game called Dungeon Keeper
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as a kid no yes yes I figured because I forget you're how old are you like 25 is
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that too many I don't this is a thing I don't know how old
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that a point not once I said how old I was on a show and someone wrote in to
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tell me that I was wrong and nicely done yes you would have been a little little
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little young for Dungeon Keeper but it was a game that had kind of a cult
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following
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back in may be in the nineties or so but it is yet another game that follows the
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tragic story called Electronic Arts buys a promising video game company promises
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to make a sequel and then doesn't for years and eventually spits out a
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horrible pile of poo that nobody likes considering I'm doing yet I will this
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point say they just got everything they really do at the Electronic Arts
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corporate offices it should say Electronic Arts and then right below it
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on a banner it should say something like crusher of dreams just then just
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terrible and they just love to buy up talent and then squander squander that
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talent but Dungeon Keeper was another one of those things where people were
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really excited for the third game in the series and nothing eventually happened
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except pooping out a horrible free-to-play actually you need to buy a
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thousand in-app purchases thing for the iPad a little while ago but just like
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with city skylines where someone else
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finally took up the mantle for SimCity because Electronic Arts wasn't going to
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do it and they built an amazing spiritual successor to sim city better
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than anything else which is of course the city skylines there's a team that
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has put together the true successor to Dungeon Keeper which is now called war
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for the overworld I only mention it as a recommendation because it originally
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came out many years ago but it was just like a buggy mess that was unplayable
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but I remembered that I had purchased early access to it on Steam let me give
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it another try and I had several enjoyable hours kind of wandering down
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the nostalgia factor of playing this game from my childhood which is now
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it's not very good and it is definitely worth checking out if you ever play
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Dungeon Keeper when you were a kid
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this is one of my when my recommendations I wanna make
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recommendations well yeah for PlayStation game called rocket league
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it's amazing it's just a little game is like one of those things are slow game
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made by a studio I'd never heard of before that just captures the hearts and
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minds of people and it just takes off so you basically you control a lot kind of
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life science remote control car they look like remote control cause they move
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like control and there are basically you're playing football with remote
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control cars there's this huge ball and there's teams and you just have to try
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and score it and you can jump the cause or the cause they have rocket packs on
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them so you can post them and it's incredible fun I do not enjoy sports
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attend not really enjoy sports games this one is just totally different and
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if you have a PlayStation you should own rocket league because it is fantastic
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and they have you can play against AI or you can play online which I really like
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they have both because it's way too many console games these days just put
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everything as more online multiplayer which is not typically how I like to
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play I get frustrated by that as well as I O
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only multiplayer online forget it just just don't like it going back to the PC
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games you play them like what what you do use the input methods to keep from
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still using my Wacom tablet as the primary input method because Justin
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really when I'm playing the game I'm really doing the first and the third at
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of hello internet which are both at its where I can be doing something else at
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the same time because I am actually wanted to be able to do stuff on the
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podcast I'll still use the pen and it is it is very usable for certain kinds of
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games you could never play like a first-person shooter with it you can
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never play something like doing with it with a pen very well I want to hear from
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everybody who plays with a pen
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but for something like Dungeon Keeper which is like a top-down moving
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characters around Starcraft style game a pen tablet is it is very useful input
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method I was just thinking and explain with the game is at all but you you
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build a dungeon you play the bad guy you build a dungeon and heroes are trying to
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invade your dungeon gonna flip around the traditional story it's not like one
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of these games are like for example Starcraft where you have to constantly
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micro-manage each individual troop you can do very little directly which i
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think is an interesting gameplay mechanism that makes you absolutely
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loathe your minions because if you like just do the thing that I want you to do
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what you can only issue these very broad commands like everybody go over here you
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can't control things directly and so when I'm working I actually need games
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like that where I don't require 100% of my attention and I can flip away from
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them for a few moments and make a few cuts or delete something and then flip
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back and continue to play them look at this one because of this frustrating
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mechanic I'm not sure that people who've never played the original ones would
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actually like this if you've heard of Dungeon Keeper and you loved it as a kid
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you should totally play this but I'm not 100% sure that I could recommended just
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as a game in the abstract you stick with your you stick with your prison
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architect and burning everything to the ground and building a beautiful prison
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right now right of course because you turned off the losing part of the game
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really is very very very beautiful I might actually work on it lost editing
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the show and it will be fantastic occasion lol do the real show you must
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follow up so chto on the reddit suggested an app that you might be
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interested in called alton hoped
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which is an Evernote replacement for the Mac it isn't a different service it is
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just another at 470 on the Mac which is bill to take out a lot of the craft that
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they added and actually make the appt nice ICIC so it's like it's like a
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Tweetbot for ever know exactly is difficult to explain when you say it's a
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replacement it makes it sound like a different service London this is
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actually just an act that looks way nicer to be used for ever
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but it's just it does look like it's much nicer yeah I think you should cause
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if you if I don't know how much you use on the Mac I see him in the answer is as
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little as possible and enough to my thing look at something like this is I
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just know that if I suppose to start using this I would want it everywhere
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right just frustration that makes me sad they are making it though they're making
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alternate for iOS have got right down the button sign up to our newsletter be
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the first to know about alternate for iOS I would definitely do something like
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that a try because one of my biggest complaints with Evernote is okay so I
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throw all this stuff into Evernote and I have a default folder called inbox so
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that I can just throw everything in there and I don't have to try to restore
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it it makes it easier to just be able to throw things in to remove a little bit
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of resistance but that does mean that every once in a while I have to go
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through my inbox and sort all of the stuff that I've collected into you know
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which which topic folder is going to go into this is exactly the kind of
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activity that I would love to do
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saved while sitting on the couch and my wife is watching some TV show and I'm
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there and I'm paying attention but I also want to do a little something like
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this seems like the perfect kind of work to just organize something like that I
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would take out my iPad to do that on Evernote except that why they do this
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who knows what it takes so many taps to take an item and put it in a folder and
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it blows my like isn't this the primary purpose of your thing is for sorting and
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collecting stuff why do I have to click on the note click on the information box
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click on where the folders go then scroll down to select the folder that I
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want click on the folder and then click OK it looked like a hundred taps to put
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something in a folder so I just don't do it on my iPad even though that is
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obviously the ideal place to do that kind of work it's hugely frustrating so
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if alternate makes an iOS version I will definitely check it out because at least
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a little video here it looks pretty good for mac and a dog mode I i noticed that
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right away that's that's extremely important to me
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version to the Mac is going to have full markdown support sold
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that sounds like a winner yeah this is definitely looked like a winner I
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mention we didn't have a lot of follow-up mind maps but we did get
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follow-up from one person in my girlfriend who was in the show she
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provided me with very detailed follow-up via MSN just a way home from work she
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was listening so I would like to provide her reasoning for mind maps because at
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the moment she is the only person on such minor was she trying to sell you on
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my maps
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she's just tell me why she likes them she says I need my maps to organize the
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information that I find out for my job in a way that makes sense to me rather
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than help someone else structured it makes sense to them my maps help me
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simplify findings and rationales and also help me remember them so no matter
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what question I get from someone on a project I can go to that specific
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location on the map to find the information to answer questions
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the way the ICC's like sushi draws out these my maps and psych ok I think about
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this which leads us so somebody asked her a question later she can see the
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thinking that informed a decision and she also she won't say that the way that
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she does these types of my match don't look like regular mind maps where one
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idea is in the center
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never been branching out from it she says that doesn't make sense to her and
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then she went on this and also again mind mapping people to say how do you
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organize your ideas why do you just hold on paper due just draw more branches and
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crazy so she does AC her own style of mind mapping and I can see the thinking
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behind it like during out these diagrams to try and displayed the way to think
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and if your brain works like that it's great but it seems like on the whole
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context listeners don't seem to have mind mapping brains could you get an
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example mind map from her because it sounds like she doesn't like my maps
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either and she's actually doing something else feel like we need to see
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what she's doing
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I can try because I don't know what she can share but also see if I can get
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something if I can then great if not maybe a skirted to do something for me I
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don't know how much we can do but you can show because
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in trouble but will find it's worth it for the show though isn't it
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oh definitely I mean you know what job isn't nearly as important as a show of
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course priorities I have said nothing about said you just said that sentence
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well I can listen how that sounded and I can remove it this week I am happy to
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audio books into overcast there is a lot of stuff Hegre so referring to last week
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where you removing you very upset about the global icon changing to our engine
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it was completely thrown off the function of your screen to sign I
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realized listening back to that episode but it did sound a little crazy that my
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that I was having this problem with the fact that it was orange but at the same
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time listening to that I thought nobody really is a problem just let oranges
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just terrible so it did have to go so I have a bunch of follow-up of suggestions
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everybody but it's just not a thing I've ever really spent much time with so I
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absolutely terrifying I'm guessing I'm guessing then that you were unsuccessful
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in attempting to remove any DRM from the audio from the audible files I can
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neither confirm nor deny my attempts to raise some suggestions
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right right I I will also write neither confirm nor deny that such a thing as
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possible and say for the record now that if I ever make any comments about doing
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such a thing in the future that they are entirely theoretical conversations that
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audiobooks theoretical thoughts I suppose Tyler suggested something cool
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just cast is a service that allows you to create a podcast feed using Dropbox
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but everything happens with semantically so this is kind of like the service
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version of Outlook is made and you can sign up for its is a service that you
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can pay for if you want to there's a couple different tiers for you just
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create a Dropbox folder you associate with this lap and then everything that
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you put into Dropbox folder gets added to the RSS feed I can subscribe to it
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having other services of course these aren't just for audio books that may or
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may not have proper protection can be anything maybe the stuff that you find
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maybe just want to create your own pockets there is another service called
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pod match that cosmic servant suggested on reddit which looks to be a private
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alternative to hafta so basically gives you drop a log in and its private thing
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the other solution to all of this is just to create a RSS feed using a
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service provider like clips in a simple cost like how you would normally create
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a podcast and create feeds but the problem with doing stuff like this is
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you're putting those potentially into the internet keep them private that
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people could eventually find them
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yeah I'm realizing though it never even crossed my mind to use lipson which
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might be one of the simplest answers for how did I'm busy making podcast and then
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I also have this problem of boy i wish i had a podcast feed for this thing to me
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like maybe we can put these two together you would be surprised how long I was
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reading the feedback and putting this into the document before that occurred
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to me that we are both professional podcasters who are in need of a podcast
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and we didn't know how to do it how would you even I don't know why my brain
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went to can I write this script that would take a drop I go like to recreate
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the whole thing myself who lives in actually sounds like an easy simple way
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to do the thing that I naturally started with the hardest possible way to do that
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so you also I used you tweeted a picture which is that your home screen as a
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couple of days ago where you have removed all the ball and Apple music
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from the greens are wearing complete change again how do you feel now you ok
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yeah I'm feeling I'm feeling much better about this because the small balance in
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the orange again is more balanced in the orange yeah there's some things that
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something that I still don't like I brought out the settings out to the main
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screen as I speculated last time I might which is a place you can put it anywhere
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I had to have had to move things around a little bit more since the last time I
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took that screenshot but overall I'm relatively happy because yes I made it I
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made the decision that two things were going to get demoted to the other folder
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and it was Apple music and audible for very different reasons
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audible because of their terrible color orange which I have to say I liked to
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have gotten a bunch of feedback from people using other Amazon Services and
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it looks like Amazon has gone with orange for all of their icons but the
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horrible icon orange clashes with the other oranges that Amazon has selected
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for their other services so if you look at a whole bunch of Amazon icons the
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audible one is the only one that just looks different and like it doesn't
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belong so it's not just me other people were complaining about this as well that
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if you use if you're all in on Amazon
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the audible one sticks out like an ugly duck but so yes I got rid of that one
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and I have I think we mentioned earlier shows I was going to give Apple music at
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Ryan hope that Apple music was solving all of my various music problems and I
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have been giving it a go since it came out but the end results is that I hate
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Apple music and I don't like anything about it and it's been causing huge
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battery drains on my phone because for some crazy reason I went to actually
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have music on my phone and Apple music seems to disagree with me no matter how
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much I try to get it to download stuff it just doesn't and it throws up error
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messages all the time of how we can actually download this just constantly
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but it still working in the background and it's ok I i i feel like im fighting
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with it the whole time and it's also optimized towards old style radio and
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nothing about it that I find pleasing so I feel like you know what the hell with
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this is burning my whole music collection down to the ground and was
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gonna start over with Spotify that's my conclusion I've been seeing even having
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issues I have absolutely no advice for it just looks like a plan saying it does
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surprise me because I can't personally tolerate that color green that's what if
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I chose when they change to that just not even green green like I don't even
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know what that is like they should create some sort of new color class to
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describe what that thing is I don't know why they did that it's like they're
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trying to burn into the screens or something it's just a color I cannot
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abide by I feel like we're in the scenario but that Spotify color makes me
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very uncomfortable see this again i think is our age difference here because
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I grew up on computers that were just two colors horrible greens and black
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backgrounds and so that always feels like I don't like going home again
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any kind of green on black color scheme always a big fan of because that's what
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I grew up with computers so I am not bothered by the green of Spotify even
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though I can see that many people would be just as bothered by it as I am by the
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orange of audible but again I had another idea this morning
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putting the show together and I create something boy with a workflow action
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that you can add to your home screen which will open the lab and you can
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choose whatever I can you know I know I view these services before is it a kind
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of fighting or are you just using the workflow happened I just create a
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workflow in the works and you just see you press the icon it opens the work
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thought for a second and then opens your I used to actually do that with a
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dedicated app for all the so honorable because they used to have some other
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really hideous icon that I couldn't stand along time ago and I made a custom
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icon that I used on my desktop for that but then they moved to an acceptable
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icon but also I just don't like the fact that when you use the custom icons it
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has to do the blip blip of opening up two things maybe that'll be better when
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I put mine on my phone because it seems a lot faster but I don't like the the 22
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app open thing so I'm gonna pass on that for the time being and yeah definitely
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looks nice I was nine cuz I'm running right now
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yeah but just just a discussion just a discussion in general not have any files
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that have DRM on them but we can just have a general discussion about
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listening to audiobooks in overcast audio books that you made ya audio books
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I have recorded yeah I have recorded some public domain material in audiobook
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format just need to keep it in a private area says because accents and stuff you
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don't exactly reading to myself that I listen to it again but I guess we can
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have a general discussion about audio books and overcast because I I like also
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being able to consolidate something so that now I have a a single icon which is
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overcast for spoken material so it's not necessarily divided into two different
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icons and I can now again for books that I have made for myself that I'm done
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from anywhere else I have a playlists in overcast which is just for audio books
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so that when I open up overcast at like a cat
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have my three standard playlists and one of them is now audiobook so I can listen
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to audio books there and I like that I liked having the one place to go for
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smoking material so even if I double work to come out with a much better
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looking icon I think it would forever remain in the other folder like I will
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use it to browse for audio books but I'm not necessarily going to have it on on
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front and center because now overcast is my place for smoking material
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the only thing I will say is that listening to audiobooks with the smart
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speed feature which is the whole reason that I use overcast is a strange
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experience because I think when Marco the guy who makes overcast was testing
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out smart speed he was listening to podcasts and deciding how much of the
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space should be taken out between words or between sentences and when I'm using
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smart be with podcasts I almost never even notice if it's on sometimes I have
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to look and say do I even have smart speed on because it shortens it but it
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shortens it in a very natural way but when you're listening to an audio book
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audiobook narrator's are speaking in a very different cadence it's not a
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conversation and a couple of the audio books I have listened to it has the
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feeling of men I know smart speed is on because it feels like they're talking
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very very fast so that that's just my personal experiences it feels like the
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knob or the calibration on Smart's be with audio books is is way high because
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audio book narrators have much bigger spaces between their words and much
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bigger spaces between their sentences so it feels like I have it on me know maybe
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one and a half X instead of just one XO it I think I'm still going to use it but
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it it it is taking a little more getting used to you than I thought listening to
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audiobooks with more speed audio book that I recorded of course yeah I have
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listened to an audio book and other costs and it was a very different
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sounding experience
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okay so it's not just me I'm not being crazy sounds strange because just one
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person maybe that's what it is and and so it's just like it just sounds strange
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because you would expect that person to take a break at some point but they
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never do
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yeah that's that's true although I have to say one of my absolute pet peeves is
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still with us say this out loud because when people hear me say that they won't
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be able they will not be able to help a tune into it but I'm still gonna ruin
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some of people's experiences I hated in audio books when the audio engineer is
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leave in the narrator taking a breath I am reading a sentence this is a second
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sentence that I'm now reading this is the third sentence like god damnit right
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like why didn't you take that out whenever you do now rationed like paper
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and I've done four shows in the past I knew remove that I removed the breath
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because it's it's infuriating it's absolutely infuriating but I think you
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might be onto Saudi breathe breathe every dime calls sacks of meat that have
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to take in oxygen otherwise it doesn't work but but I think I think you might
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be right that the smart speed sounds weird when it's just a single person
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continuously talking because you are expecting that break and it never comes
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I think that might be what it is but I'm still am so going to try it out and I
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want to get used to it but it's one of those things where you you think in
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advance I'll definitely like this thing and then you try and you go it's not
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quite what I was when I was imagining I know Mark it will never do it because he
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has an apple like take on adding options into any of his software but this is the
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one time I feel like man I really wish I could dial back smart speed a little bit
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on this playlist but that's the kind of person he will never had to go overcast
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even though I might want it because I don't even know what that is like how do
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you mean dial it back but I went on I just in the middle
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understand my understanding is he has a calibrated to do something like removed
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forty percent of the silence whenever there is silence and so I feel like you
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I want to dial that back on an audio book to me be 15% or 20% you see it up a
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little but not all the way because it does also to drive me crazy how slow
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people mostly non-fiction narrator sometimes talking audio books and that's
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enough of that do you have any thoughts on alphabet and seen this Diva no one
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talking about Mike I am I am on top of the news all the time
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yeah I'm a news junkie I follow everything actually I did hear about the
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alphabet you didn't hear about this I was gonna be like really surprised about
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this said this is for anybody that doesn't know Google is kind of breaking
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up their operations no that's not even the way to describe it
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that's a terrible it is I don't even know anything about the story and I
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wouldn't say that at all if they're forming an Umbrella Corporation which
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owns Google it's not Google breaking up into a bunch of little companies well a
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lot of subsidiaries of Google on now leaving the Google umbrella going into
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health so they won't be related to Google anymore like they used to be
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right but Google used to be acting as the Umbrella Corporation for all the
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stuff that they bought and now they're just saying we're going to actually have
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a real Umbrella Corporation called out the bed I was just terribly rude to
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their alphabet now owns Google the new Google which has less parts in it
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they've alphabet has now taken and loans companies like nest which was owned by
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Google is now on its Google I find it very peculiar that youtube is still
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owned by Google even though YouTube has its own seat anyway it's something I
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bring condoms wrap around but yeah I just wanted to say anything in this that
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interests you just react when I heard about it I first thought it was some
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kind of joke people I go google has been renamed as alphabet you know when I read
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looked at the website feel like a joke initially because it's so strange it it
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didn't seem real at first but the process I also think is funny is that
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Google created this little company called alphabet and then alphabet bought
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back Google is the way they have to be very fun to create a company which is
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gonna buy us exactly what money is it buying us with all the money we gave it
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to you but it's all very strange but I haven't I'm only just looked into the
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barest bit of this because of course I was curious about does affect me with
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you too many things that's why I looked into it a little bit but I think it's
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actually a kind of simple and and brilliant idea in the same way that the
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Google search engine was just very simple and worked well so I give this a
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big thumbs up I I think this is a good way to do things to do not have all of
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their various projects feel like they are tied to the Google brand but so it's
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it's not Google self-driving cars and Google everything this this I think
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allows them to do the the company version of what I think people should do
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which is have lots of little experiments many of which are unrelated to each
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other and to see what works out well so I am a big fan of this and i also think
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it's pretty clear from the fact that they bought ABC dot XYZ as their domain
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names that they they don't have any intentions of pushing alphabet as the
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brand I don't think you're going to see anything on the Google homepage which is
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Google brought to you by alphabet I think it looks like it really is acting
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the alphabets and the whole gisbert Google and is next and so is for shine
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hardware company this whole thing that they seem to be doing it does feel a
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stand up which is one of the most horrible things you'll ever see
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yeah yeah I mean that's that's their old stuff you should see the new humanoid
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stuff it's like kill it with fire is the reaction to seeing some of their the
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humanoid robots but that's the bottom line I think it's a good idea I think
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it's a nice clean simple idea that allows Google to do stuff that doesn't
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because I think that is a natural thing that happens to companies like Google
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tries all these things and they kill all these things they have no focus and i've
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i've even said similar things about Amazon logo Amazon does all this crazy
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stuff none of it works out even though I think that's actually a good strategy
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but with a company I think it helps to disassociate yourself from a lot of your
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experiment so it doesn't feel like oh you're always doing all these things
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that don't work out because most things don't work out but you only care about
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the things that do also helps when they buy companies like nursed for it not to
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seem like they're just trying to collect all of your data where they are or not
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when it was Google doing people come with tonya ship with this idea that now
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they're going to control your home's temperature to try and sell you a
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condition units like you know that there was like fear that people had to I think
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this might help alleviate the companies are a bit more separate when I was in
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who I actually stayed in a place that had a nest thermostat in it and the
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the fact that it is connected to Google and as part of Google it made me feel
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creepy about the nest thermostat was like oh right there's a camera in the
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nest thermostat and the like the company that owns the place that we're staying
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in can look through the camera but it's also all tied in with Google services is
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just a lil was a little bit weird and I was I was very aware of that nest
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thermostat in in the main area where we're staying like the little how 9000
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on the wall and none of them have cameras in there the newer versions have
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a little camera them they make a camera called the next camp which is different
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than an estimate maybe I am getting confused I'm pretty sure thinking has an
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infrared sensor ok so has the infrared sensor but doesn't have actual camp
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doesn't have a camera that somebody could see through ok I'm glad I'm glad
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we got to the bottom of that disassociating the things works with
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what we've just been talking about with his confusion over whether the nest has
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a camera on it because I feel like I just assume Google is the kind of
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company that gap with cameras in it right
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whereas if nest with some separate feeling company isn't that great I can I
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used to be in their region around yeah exactly I would have never given it a
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second thought that it was their camera in the nest thermostat but now Google
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owns it and I just my brain just as soon as I go yet said spying on me and
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listening to me and sending everything into Google and Google is going to make
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sure that the next time I'm seeing a ditz for exactly the thing that my wife
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you know you know kind of last week we spoke about screenwriting and the kind
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want to talk a little about animating and assembly
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ok so you have a quite distinctive animation style I think with your little
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stick figure grey stuff like that i mean it didn't necessarily start off that way
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but you developed over time but from the very first kind of grades planes video
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there was always animation it was always an amazing some description
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why did you decide to go of animation and not just like talking I did
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animation on the screen for two reasons the first is that I was just very
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familiar as we discussed last time with making presentations in this style for
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classrooms and so never when I was making a presentation for a classroom
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setting did I kill me talking to camera as part of that presentation because
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that would be insanity because I would be in the room giving the presentation
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so I had no experience filming myself and it just it would have been totally
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different thing to do to try to figure out lighting and and the auto it was
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just entirely out of my abilities at that time the other reason is that right
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from the start I did want to keep my face off of my youtube channel because I
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did have a couple other little videos that I did before the UK one which
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really kick things off and in all of those videos my face is not on camera as
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well and the reason for that is because I was still employed at that time in
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various schools and I wanted to as much as possible keep a distance between my
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employment and my projects on the side of course
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that distance couldn't be complete still using my actual name because the name of
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my youtube channel but I thought that keeping the faceoff was just a little
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bit a little bit more distance so that maybe if a student happened to see one
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of my videos it would be less likely they would actually realize it was me in
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the video if they're not seen me so I just want to keep things apart I mean
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maybe this is a bit of a story for another time but the short version is
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that I I left schools twice under circumstances where I was trying to
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become self-employed and the first time didn't work out but the second time did
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which was YouTube but in both cases the people at my schools had no idea that I
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was working on side projects I never mentioned it to anybody he never brought
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it up as a topic of conversation that I did things on the side I just would not
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ever want anyone at work to know that because if people at your place of
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employment knew that you want to be independent and to do things on your own
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at best
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that makes them start treating you like a non-entity who has no future at this
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place like that's the best possible outcome and the worst outcome is that
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you have a target on your head as as someone who can potentially cause
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problems for the institution and and so that's that's why I kept its silence and
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advice to anybody who's really trying to do this is don't don't tell anybody at
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your work about how you want to be a self-employed person I just think you
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can only do that if and when you already have a pretty solid plan in place for
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leaving but even the second time when I was doing YouTube when my income was
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enough that I could safely leave teaching I still didn't tell anybody at
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my work why I was quitting just quitting because I just didn't wanna connected at
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all but I mean I know you what did you cause I know I know that you were doing
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your podcasting
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you were in a similar position that you had a somewhat public career that you
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were doing while you're at your big corporate job but I'm just realizing I
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should have asked you this first did you tell people at your work just pooped all
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over what you did when you were at your company
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well a slightly different when I first started doing what I do all of the
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employment rules of my company is if you want to start a business of your own
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employment you have to have it approved by a senior manager interesting because
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because I work so this is when I worked in branch banking so I was in a bank
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branch kind of what my way up to a branch manager but this is before that
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point I was kind of like a senior member of a team because they're so much money
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around right actually dealing with real money if you have a business on the side
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of really great way to hide the money as DeLand right of course so you have to be
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deemed as much as somebody can be trustworthy individual because of my
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time you can't trust anyone that makes advice on life don't trust anyone when
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there's cash around when cash is just lying around you may think someone's a
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friend you can trust them but then you find out that they were stealing money
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like it does so there's there's this big to be around my bosses very gracious she
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understood my situation and was happy to agree that was all okay and then I tried
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to keep it to myself as much as possible
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the secret was out but I'd never shared any details I didn't tell anybody where
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to find my staff exactly like I just kept it all to myself but then when I
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wanted to get out of the branch tough move into my marketing role whom I had
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to use my on the side stuff as a reason why
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would be good at marketing so the secret was completely out there was nothing I
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could do about it because I had to like have interviews and multiple managers
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were a show them the types of things that I do and why I think so then they
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knew about it and they spoke about it everyone and luckily in the scenario
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that I was in everyone's kinda cool about it and anytime anybody ever spoke
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about it they were actually just interested but I still I never brought
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it up and I agree with you completely for as much as you can keep it to
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yourself keep it to yourself because there is no upside like literally no
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upside because as you say you even any time you speak up about something you
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get labeled as a troublemaker because you don't care if there's layoffs and
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stuff you can be put to the top of that list
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yep and one of the things you'll find out when you just trying to start a
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self-employed career is that your current employment becomes the way that
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you found that and if you don't have that anymore you can achieve the goals
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20 yeah yeah without a doubt it like becomes the vehicle which enables the
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side projects yeah I mean I would I would never tell my employer's this but
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I viewed particularly in the later years my teaching is as exactly that
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of this is what is financially supporting me while I'm attempting to
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bootstrap my actual career that I will if you say that you did you just you
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just in trouble at work that's what you have to keep that stuff to yourself and
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of course if you're doing something publicly on the internet there's always
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going to be a limit to that there's ways that people can find out what you're up
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to but yet just try to minimize it is as much as possible so going back to it
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that's that's why I didn't have my face in the video was was partly just
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thinking about anything I can do to make it less clear that this is me is
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something that I i want to i deficit
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the deal but I mean I was really kind of amazed because I was still doing YouTube
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at my last school for about a year and a half and at that stage I was getting
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videos with hundreds of thousands maybe millions of views and they did know that
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a couple of students knew about it but as far as I could tell no one on the
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teaching staff revenue for which I was always hugely relieved but I was also
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just worried about the day when this conversation comes up with a manager at
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some point of like oh what's this thing that you're doing with YouTube they
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asked innocently but actually have already watched videos
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exactly right or that they want to know if you want to know why but they're
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going to pretend like they don't know anything about it its managers in some
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ways are weirdly deluded about the corporate structure and about how things
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actually work at companies but many managers would still be aware that lots
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of their employees if they could become self-employed would do so I saw a
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manager mean do this in their mind but it's still different once it comes out
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in the open that you in particular are a person who is enacting plans that may
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have you leave the company at some day and yet that that's why I said it at at
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best they treat you like a different person who has no future there and at
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worst you're at the top of all of the list for getting booted out of there so
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that's why anybody with side projects now again this time to talk about this
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week it is however is the best way to buy and manage domain names mean great
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talk quite a bit just in general as well as in this episode about ideas and
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projects like that if you have a project these days it's probably going to be on
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the web and if it's not gonna be a web project you will most likely 10 website
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for it and the best way to secure the domain name that you want to put your
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website wave is over they make it super simple to search for domains you just go
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of me dotnet USD UK may even have some crazy ones as well
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like dot plumbing da coffee to Academy CEO everything whatever you want
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however have it and they're dot-com domain started just $12.99 that are
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really greatly priced and all of those domains include who is privacy if the
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domain supports they were just a neighbor that for you for free this
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means is that your private information we kept private because when you
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register domain if you don't have who is privacy your name your address your
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phone number it can all be made available for people to find a lot of
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other registers will make you pay extra to protect your own private information
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which is crazy
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don't believe in that they just give it to you use protection because they think
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is the right thing to do and this is the clinic company they are and have a
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fantastic thing about her is they have no hold no weight no transfer telephone
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support if you give her a call
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someone's gonna pick up its gonna be a human and that person is gonna be able
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to help you dan Uggla partial around two twenty different apartments they are
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there they are ready and they're happy to take your call that a person a
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proposed more robotic information they have great support documents and guides
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on their website and they also have fantastic email support to which I've
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used a bunch in the past and if you have a bunch of dumb and elsewhere
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MOBA you just have to do it for you and then we'll take care of it this is what
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they call their valet service no matter how many domains they have they will
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transfer them so I want you to go and try out calm today the domain that
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so you see you remained liking you continued to have the style of animation
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which was you would display things on the screen to highlight
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but when did the grade stick the character come in to play and why did
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you choose to do this and looking through the videos I can't actually
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remember which was the first one but I think I may have had a dozen or so
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videos before I ever had a little stick figure me on scream I really wish I
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could remember offhand where it was I think it might have been the 2012 video
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the 2012 in the end of the world might have been one of the first ones where I
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had the stick figure me appear so the earlier videos were almost entirely
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picture slideshows where it's just pictures pictures pictures that I'm
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putting up on the screen but there's a limit to how much you can do with
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pictures because people think it's the reverse people think that the pictures
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must be really easy and the drawings must be really time consuming and it's
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actually the reverse because trying to find the exact picture that you want to
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have on the screen at a particular moment he's very very hard when you go
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videos have on average become much less photographs and way more drawings as I
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described the style it seems to be great style do you like to rethink that way if
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videos that look like jewels you consider that the star that you created
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well it's ok to say yes the answer is no because I didn't create and I don't own
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the idea of 08 PowerPoint with a bunch of pictures but there but it's a weird
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situation where I do come across videos that sometimes very explicitly say that
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they're trying to copy my style and that's always just a little weird to see
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strange thing to to come across but I don't own doing just pictures but it's
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very funny cuz I I sometimes see people say like oh there's all these videos
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they were thinking they were all done by different people doing the same stuff
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which is which is a funny thing to realize that I've seen that conversation
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same and someone will link to them all of my various videos on the go out they
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sound the same because it's the same guided me know but I i think there's
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always some kind of line about what is similar is too similar and what it what
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was watching his stuff that made me think of you don't have to be on camera
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are very influential on the start of my own videos but I would also say that I'm
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not copying you have seized style and I'm also not doing a thing where i'm
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saying oh I too am going to be a video game reviewer I am doing something in a
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very different area but there is but there's definitely an influence their I
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can see the influence in the sticks characters but I would say that I think
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that your videos are more much more complex than 10 videos
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the animations that I do now are more complex than the animations that he does
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but it was what I mean is it was more just seeing that I don't have animation
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skills I don't have any drawing skills but yah he was a great example of how
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that's not really relevant nobody nobody cares that the oxys animation skills are
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very little because it doesn't matter to the enjoyment of those videos they're
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they're excellent videos regardless of the animation school I want to talk
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about the tools and software that you use by think that this step for that
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which is the planning and the animation storyboard sort of so here's what
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draft that I'm doing I'm just trying to get something that is vaguely coherence
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and readable to any human being from the gigantic mess that we talked about last
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time but once it gets into this stage where I can read it out loud in a single
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that is very much in my mind and when I'm writing it I almost have like a
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little a little image in my brain about what's going to be on the screen because
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if you write a script without thinking what's going to be on the screen
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you are going to be in a serious amount of trouble when you actually go to try
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to enemy thing it's very very easy to get yourself into raising of sentences
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that are totally fine if you're reading them in a book or an article but that do
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close to the end and I think a camera few drafts away one of the things that I
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paragraph and I'll put a slide or two or three for each paragraph and I will
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write a brief sentence about what is going to be on the screen at this point
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in the script now the reason I do that is because it's very easy to trick
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to be on the screen at every single moment but I force myself to write it
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down for each paragraph because I will sometimes catch out little sections were
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realized oh I actually don't have any idea what's going to be on the screen
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for these three sentences and three sentences is an eternity in an animation
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that you have to have something that relates to what you're talking about
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that so that's why I do this thing with Kino I force myself to write it down in
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you know this is going to be a forty with a couple of stick figures in its
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this is going to be a king holding his ground and it falls off just very very
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brief descriptions but I i don't i don't draw anything because it again I have no
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artistic skills so I have no ability to create a sketch I only have the ability
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to create exactly what I make that is the best that I can do and it is also
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the worst that I can do I have no in between skills so that's why I write it
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out in in little words to have an idea about what's going to be where when you
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start at all what tools you using like I assume you probably didn't start the
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Wacom as unit their software tools that use now which maybe didn't exist you
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didn't know about like how did you even begin
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I might have had a Wacom at the time because I have always have always had
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some problems with RSI I think ever since college I've always been switching
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various input methods sometimes I use trackball sometimes use Wacom tablet
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sometimes they use a regular mouse I i switch it up so that I'm not always
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using the same thing all the time for every single thing so I might have had
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the pen tablet but in terms of software keynote almost entirely likely described
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last time and then audio wise I used GarageBand just recorded on my iMac and
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GarageBand was totally fine because it was free and he was on my Mac and I
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could just use it and it was relatively simple and then I used iMovie to put the
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two things together the audio track from GarageBand and then the the video track
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from keynote so I could play keno on the screen and I was recording what was
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happening on the screen and putting those two things together and I will be
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and that's how I was thinking up the video to the audio what I love about
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that is that all of the tools that you used our tools are now available for
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free with any Mac I think about this all the time and it's one of the things I
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really like about YouTube I mean I just like about the world in general now
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which is that there are no gatekeepers and the tools to do things are at your
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hands they might not be the best tools I wouldn't use iMovie and GarageBand today
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but they're free and there there and you put time into them you can learn them
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and do amazing things and you can just get people always talk about oh don't
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you think it's harder to start a career on YouTube now than it was years ago and
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my answer is no I don't actually think it any harder to start now than it was
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years ago I sometimes think people use that as an excuse not to start is well
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everybody know everything that could ever exist exist now as we know it
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doesn't it if you think you can make something that is good
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would you have free tools almost certainly on any computer that you own
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and you can just make a youtube account tomorrow and then if your video is good
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you submit to Reddit and it can be on the front page of Reddit in 12 hours you
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know it's it's an amazing amazing world that we live in and I think to you to
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make a video like I make thirty years ago would would take millions of dollars
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in equipment and broadcasting rights and all kinds of crazy things like it's it's
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an amazing world like it really is completely funded so fascinating to hear
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that like you began with you basically hacking together tools to work the way I
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don't I didn't even know and I don't know can you explored keno is like a
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movie files that he did that I don't think he noted at the time I know that
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now you can export a keynote as a Quicktime file but I think at the time I
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had to record the screen to actually grabbed it and I was so awesome in it
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together and I loved it because that's the attitude I think which is so awesome
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about this kinda stuff you just had this idea you like whoa how can I do this
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sticky tape it all together and is now a video which millions and millions of
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people have now seen that UK one made with iMovie is now at seven and a half
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million views
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yeah it's just crazy change your life it totally did I i feel very fortunate to
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be an adult person in a time when the tools are available and the gatekeepers
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are gone for many things and and you can just you can just try stuff it was the
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thing that with some of my more able students I was always trying to impress
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this point upon them if they would say things like I want it I want to be a
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video game designer or I want to be a writer
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just you just start right now
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I I know you're in I know you're in high school and I know that you think you
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need to go to college and learn about this stuff but trust me you don't you
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don't need to do that you can just get started now and nobody cares how old you
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are if you write a good article is not relevant or you can go download Xcode
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right now and start messing around with computer programming and I just thought
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sometimes my students had this notion of oh someone needs to give me permission
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to do this thing or a need to be formally trained to do the things that
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you don't you don't get it there for the taking and do not need to be ordained by
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the keeper of creativity yea or just just any kind of any kind of production
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the kids just out there for so many jobs and so many fields and you know i mean
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like being a YouTube creator is a kind of career now in the way that it it was
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not so much when I first started but it seemed like nobody there was no your
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YouTube University that I went to four degrees like it just making things any
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kind of fall into it and that's why there's so many things like that in the
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world if you're interested in something pursue it and and maybe something will
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come out of it and maybe you won't but just you know give it a try but not sure
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I would never entirely successful in convincing any 17 or 18 year olds to do
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with thing that they wouldn't have done anyway I was but when I like I said you
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know a few of my more able students when they say things like I want to be a
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do you have a blog I don't have a blog like makeup blog right now go make a
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blog and just start writing stuff and go for it I had that exact same
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conversation over a couple years ago he would love to be a sports journalist and
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he was looking at trying to write magazines or use the planes are things
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at the BBC for internships was like ok
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a web address like that would be my first question to exactly I said in my
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from it because when he applies to places in this is so important if you
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have an actual job when you want it to be a creative kind of thing
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show you can do something that is so important because then when he was
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applied to these places everybody asks give me examples of your work and it's
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so much better if you can say all you do it already I'm not writing something for
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you right now let's take a look at the stuff I do every week exactly anyway
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let's get back to belfast was suffered to use now over the years I transitioned
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I used the most techie of the programs I use a program called Inkscape for almost
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everything that I draw and Inkscape is a vector drawing program I started with
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ages ago because I had some familiarity from Linux which it originally grew out
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drawings and I am easy fast in Inkscape like I can draw up something just very
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very fast with that whereas it if you try to drive stick figure in Keynote
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like I hope you have a couple hours because it's actually really fiddly to
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do whereas if you're using a program that is actually designed for drawing
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its way faster so I quite like scape they do sometimes think about switching
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away from it but it is very well suited to my purposes at this moment what would
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you look at something like illustrate or something like that I'm always just
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surveying the field because I know that I happened to just land on Inkscape
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because at the time I had no money ya know I get so that's why I really used
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it because it was free and open source and I always just be like oh maybe I
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should be using Illustrator or on the opposite end I always have my eye on
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on on the gravel as a possible alternative primarily because i'm new
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gravel will allow me to do some animations on my iPad which is something
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if Apple comes out with a bigger iPad and my stylist hint hint
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Apple anything on my iPad is something that is attractive to me
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presuming that I have the right tools eventually but I stick with Inkscape
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because I'm so fast and because I I know how to use it so well
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any particular video is never the video that I feel like oh let me try doing
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something with Illustrator now and vastly multiplying the amount of time
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it's going to take so I I may end up using Inkscape for the rest of my career
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even if I'm always interested in what other alternatives exist it took me a
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long time to switch to logic there that that's where I was going next is that I
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which it now makes sense to learn logic and then I would also get the benefit of
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if I learned logic for the podcast I can use logic for the audio for the videos
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and that was a difficult transition but boy has it paid off
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man my a lot faster in logic I mean the whole audio portion of making those
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YouTube videos used to be a really big deal it used to be a couple days of many
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many takes and lots of fiddling around with editing and trying to get it just
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right and now man I can bang out the audio for one of my youtube videos in a
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couple hours in the morning I don't even think about it like I don't even plan
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cobbled together myself but I still feel like man I would I would really like to
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obviously I know obviously not a good thing right now and I just quit they did
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like there is the there's the hedonistic treadmill where you get used to more and
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more comfy lifestyles as you as you go up in civilization and you get used to
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first time you had it and I think there's a there's something like that
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some reason I could never go back
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feels too fast because if so I really like working with Final Cut X I wish
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this part of it took longer but I can actually do it in you know maybe under
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an hour at most when I have everything all set to go I have to say this paper
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beautiful explain something to me though so to create the animations or do you
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create the individual pictures that you can put into final cut my videos
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animated something so the vast majority of my quote animations are actually
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slide wipes or dissolves between different drawings and I have done that
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doing wipes are dissolves between each of those different drawings if you see
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character because I want them to come onto the screen and then that's just
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get used to it first but ultimately pays off which is you have two options for
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the pen tablet the pointer immediately jumps to the top
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having one bottom line when you buy a pen tablet make sure you put it in pen
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this way might be a nice way to chose I think so one of my favorite things from
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little timing things all references to things like that's the kind of stuff I
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how much actual entertainment videos you think lives in the animation
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her and I look at her very seriously and I say ok you can watch this what you
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need to understand this isn't a funny one there's nothing funny in this one
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she shouldn't because she will watch it and then she laughs at various parts of
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receiving in advance that people will find anything in the video funny so if
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you're asking about where do I put jokes in deliberately the answer is I don't
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I'm just talking and explaining the thing one of my very favorite things
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from any of your videos is a little joke in the most recent look at the
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we recorded last time I got home I thought that was funny how interesting
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words to say that the United States sent in the military and took over this tiny
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country that barely existed I was just trying to think of a way to convey these
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two things very fast that this country existed and then obviously the United
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outside United States girl come on screen and it would just be obvious that
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she would she would crush them so that that's my thought process when I was
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making it but it did not occur to me that anybody would find that funny I was
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that the video just keeps moving on the references are a very different thing I
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the second time that you watch and so I love putting in lots of little things on
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what's happening on the screen it just feels like oh the set designer just
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why do them that you enjoy the enemy process no no no it's so boring Oh
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boring very tedious it's very long it's very boring the animation is by far away
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my least favorite part of the videos as interesting as it takes the longest
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doesn't know it it's it's by far away shorter than the than the script writing
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until it's done so it it just feels like this enormous burden even if the actual
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total number of hours is much less than the script writing a long time to render
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like the age finally does that take a lot of time it did when I had very slow
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actually ever wanted it to go up because i think im original computer took
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something like six hours to render stuff but it was that was mainly a function of
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how old my computer was because it just could not afford a new one but yeah I
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was an all day process to render and to actually upload the file as well as I
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could never do that in a single day whereas now that I can afford an actual
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real piece of professional business equipment to work on I think those
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things render out now in 15 minutes maybe 20 minutes
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of rendering something being able to show it to some people and then make
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some last-minute changes and rear ender it and still get it up on the same day
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that that makes a big big difference in being able to do that kind of stuff that
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being said I know the rendering process has increased lately because since I do
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everything as a vector drawing it's very easy for me to increase the resolution
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of the videos so that as YouTube has rolled out HDD and then to K and four k
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support and now for K at 60 frames per second support I always just make my
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videos at the maximum of whatever I can which is kind of crazy when you think
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about it that there's a stick figure on screen but I am rendering it at 4 K
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sixty frames a second but I feel like why not I just have to flip a button in
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my escape you know to say how big do I want the resolution to be and it's
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another button in Final Cut Pro deseo export this at 60 frames a second rather
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than exporting it at 30 frames per second so it's very easy very easy for
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me to do but I end up with gigantic files now that take a long time to
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actually upload it to YouTube and they take a long time for you to process so
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that that part of it is taking a little bit longer than
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get used to it we spoke about the animation but there are some videos and
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there are some elements are some videos in which you use stock photography or
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you've got like humans need multiplier is also like stock video what makes you
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want to look at something like that and then how do you go about finding the
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type of media ok so there's there's a process this happened here if you look
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almost entirely Creative Commons images which is very time intensive to find the
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right images and also to make sure that I'm giving credit to the people who
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created them again for the listeners Creative Commons means that someone is
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posting the image on the internet but they can specify in advance the ways
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under which can be used to they can say yes you can use this image for
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commercial purposes and you can modify it as long as you give me credit and
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back in the day not anymore
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liquor made it very easy to search for Creative Commons images so I was always
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just using Flickr to go through and try to find appropriate pictures that had
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the right licenses on them that I could use but as I said that was very time
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intensive so I eventually switch to doing the drawings because that took
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less time and I can get exactly what I want but recently I have been using more
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stock image and quite frankly that is in no small part because of the heat
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transport for the videos because actually paying for professional
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high-definition stock is surprisingly expensive you know very often there
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something like four hundred slides maybe half of which could possibly be an image
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and it would be negative profitability on those things if I was just using the
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YouTube advertising revenue to cover it so the humans need not apply is a
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perfect example of without the crowdfunding
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would never have made that video because that thing was just on card Lee
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expensive in terms of I want to license all of this the stock imagery and
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because I'm a crazy person and because I'm thinking about this video you know
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years down the line I want to license the highest quality version of every
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single piece of footage that shows have I think I forget exactly what it was but
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I I broke a record with that
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Las Vegas video because in the beginning of the Las Vegas Video there are two
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clips in the first five seconds that are each for K and 60 frames per second and
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it cost me $1000 for that five seconds right at the beginning of the video when
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when you said it was expensive I thought you were like jurors you know
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overplaying it to sound like it's always very expensive as well I don't do a lot
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of it helps I can feel like it balances out but knowing who you need that money
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that is cool yeah I mean again that was that was the highest which is why
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mention it I think it's in no small part because those two opening shots they
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were obviously shot on a drone which is probably be illegal for Las Vegas to get
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that little or maybe a helicopter but both of those like I said I wanted the
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mat for K and 60 frames per second
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if you want to know if you want the like the four ATP version you can probably
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get that stuff for 20 bucks but if you want the high quality versions like they
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cranked up the price very fast and also the other thing that makes it very
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expensive as many stocks agencies adjust the price based on the expected audience
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and so when I have to fill in something like oh why I expect it's going to have
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a million views the price often goes up and there have been some pieces of
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footage that I do want but it would have had to say like you know what I cannot
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spend $2,000 on a single piece of stock footage for a two second clip in a video
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because this once that amount if it's going to go out to millions of people
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ya at a certain point it doesn't make any sense that the Las Vegas one I was
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willing to spend it because I wanted a very impressive opening right at the
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used less stock leader in the video that I might otherwise have because it had a
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certain point the calculation starts to not make any sense that's interesting to
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me because when I did my marketing stuff we used agencies but every now and then
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we did any mail postal marketing in-house just for time purposes but part
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of that if it was my campaign is I would need to find an image and I'm not get in
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sometimes of its been a else finding one image for an email it's surprising how
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many images you will come across that are close to what you need but they're
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not actually what you need to know what brand guidelines I can't just use the
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image I like it has to be the image that I like that my boss likes of my bosses
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boss likes the person who wrote the brand guidelines five years ago would
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agree with ya exactly I totally get it if you have something in your mind that
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you want to put the video but because you're not an artist
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down neway together is to find this type of imagery yeah and this is actually a
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good point to to clear up a a little point that I misspoke when I said I do
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all the animations myself and someone brought up the the three videos that
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have done with newt the artists that I work with who helped me with the single
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transferable vote video and the two Lord of the Rings videos when I say the
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animations what i'm what i'm thinking in my mind is this assembly process at the
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end and and drawing stuff but the way the way it work with commute is very
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patient is having way how do you now I can't even imagine what that process
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must have been like because it took us a very long time to agree on the artwork
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Oh Mike Mike we agreed on that artwork so fast from my perspective that's what
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I assume right is that that took comparatively to all of the other than
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in the past way longer but I know that that one little thing there is probably
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a minuscule amount of back and forth compared to what you must go through
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when you're creating works at a videos so with Knut
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I was giving him lists of for example for the the voting video that here the
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animals that I want and he was coming back with various suggestions and we
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will talk through it in and develop like ok I like this direction and don't like
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this direction this is good and a similar thing with the Lord of the Rings
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one Lord of the Rings one was a huge amount of work for which I am eternally
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grateful how much time is spent on that impression I got was it really absorbed
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his life for quite a while in the end when we would decide on ok this this is
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the final thing when I say I'm doing the animations I'm taking the assets that he
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is created and then I'm the one who's arranging all of those things so canoe
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is not laying out how are they going to be on the screen
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he's providing me with the characters so that's why I still in my mind think like
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oh I'm doing the animation but the lutherans one was definitely a case
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where I realized right away my art skills were not adequate for being able
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to do that video because there are just too many characters that need to be
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differentiated immediately like I need to bring someone on board to help me
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with this and so that's that's the way that I have done it but people are like
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oh you you seem to hate the animations you complain about them on Twitter all
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the time why did why don't you get someone to help you and I i can work
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with an artist like in this way where they're providing me assets that I am
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then arranging on the screen in the way that I want but my limited experience
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with trying to hire someone to just straight-up do the animations has always
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disasterous just a total disaster and not worth it like it takes way more time
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to try to explain what I want and always get back results that I am just
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ultimately unhappy with than it is to just do it myself over a long weekend so
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that that's why I do the animations even though I don't really like them and they
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seem like something that could be outsourced but my experience says says
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they can't be and I guess for comparing contrast here if you think about the
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animations that are done for hello internets the ones they're done by docs
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key that totally works from my perspective because I don't have any
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idea what he is going to make he just emailed me and says here's the audio
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clips I want to use all of these ok and I say yes almost every single time and
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then I i give to him
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total creative control you just do whatever you want because you produce
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amazing work and that's a totally different scenario from I have been
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working on a script for six weeks and I have a very clear idea of what exactly
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needs to be on the screen at every second and in that circumstance it's
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almost impossible to delegate in an effective way to another person but with
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dusky I have no expectation for what he's going to do with the hello Internet
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animated and so that works like just when you're delegating to someone if you
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can just give them total control that works I know I could never create a
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Hello internet animated in the way that he does like that is he'll his skill and
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I have no skills in that area those videos really are amazing
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he does a good job he makes him explain I look very good and very funny shall we
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address the situation the elephant in the room with the elephant in the room
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but we're episode 10 yeah I'm done this has been great
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of course we've actually talked about that ahead of time I mean really that
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the big problem from my perspective is that if we ended here it's terribly
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unsatisfying because you open the very first show telling people that I put
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sleep on my calendar and we haven't even we haven't even addressed that that
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would have been in this episode if I knew we weren't going on but I also told
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you that we can talk about calendars and schedules because I have been off
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calendar and schedule for like a month now so I said oh no it's it's a verboten
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topic we have to pass over it
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my feeling is all agree to do some more Mike I don't know how many more I don't
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know I don't know how long this will last but you still have a list of things
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that you want to go through with me and I think you make the show very easy for
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me I get to show up and I and I talked and then I leave all of the heavy
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lifting to you which is just how I like it
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which is just how I like it and that's why we work so great together but we are
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making some changes that we've we've had all time we've we've learned some things
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from the past 10 so it's gonna make some changes so we're gonna go to every two
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weeks rather than every week the plan is to still stick to a schedule so it will
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be every second Friday there will be a show and we're also change in the
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hashtag we're not doing any Oscar a today because our time but we're gonna
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change the hashtag going forward for feedback questions and follow-up to ask
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cortex I think as cortex makes more sense and even seen people just use as
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cortex because the show is is you and me talking about stuff and I definitely did
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want it to be every other week because I have found every week just absolutely
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exhausting I don't know how you do all of the podcast that you do
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you are on three you've for podcast today and and i'm looking here like home
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at every week I just did one and then on the weeks when that happens to be a
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hello Internet and the cortex that feel like my whole wirklich
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can't do things together like every other costs I do and every other podcast
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I've ever been involved with they do not take as much work as the shows that you
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third at it
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of her internet right idea I do three editor of the show
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understands it's a small work but in the same thing for us to get this show to a
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standard that we both like it takes a bit more work than the shows that I
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is actually worked I'm happy I really loved the finished product I'm glad you
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decided to make that sustainable we can get to every two weeks is gonna continue
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this gonna be much more context forever not forever but takes forever no limit
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on it so it can be for you you you just feel like I give you an inch and you
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take forever
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yeah I've agreed to do some more episodes some unspecified number of
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episode and they're like oh boy it turned into
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weeks time that the get feedback followup questions so we will talk again
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in two weeks we will indeed be the mic
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