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00:00:00 ◼   ► good afternoon mr. UK tech 100 i saw on [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► Twitter that you are the 67 coolest UK [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► tech person is that is that was take [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► away from this article that mentions you [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► in Business Insider s60 service the [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► clothes number what is this what is this [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► thing as of right now I'm not a hundred [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► essential i know i received an invite to [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► a party which I'm going to this evening [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► that business insider are hosting a VIP [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► party I my oh my your VIP huh for the [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► top 100 coolest people in technology but [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► I didn't know if I was gonna be on this [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► list they were talking about and then [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► this morning it just popped up and i am [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► apparently the bearded British man i'm [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► making light of this is a real talk for [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► a moment I'm incredibly proud of myself [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► and for a favor I happy today you have [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► been recognized for your hard work and [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► yes it's mike let's see what it would do [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► they say about you [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► they literally do something the bearded [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► and pradesh yeah I currently yep that's [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► co-founders and host of relief and [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► podcast network launched in 2014 focus [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► on technology with podcast featured by [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► Apple good picture of you there Mike [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► yes on our about page they cropped [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► Stephen out is that Steven shoulder [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► automatically the structure i think so [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► they could have cropped it a little more [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► it did not make it so obvious they could [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► have got any photo of me really like do [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► there are many photos of just me i don't [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► know why they felt like they needed that [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► one but they did you getting ready for [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► this party though you don't you're [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► prepared you need to do need to go soon [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► we're recording this [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► I'm gonna be recording on the road today [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► okay well I i did go and get my hips to [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► trim today I've had my beard and my [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► haircut play by my friend [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► oh this is that that fancy place that [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► you go to for your beard massage or [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► whatever like they have beside yeah [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► that's that's it [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► I don't know how you maintain these [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► things there is a little bit of [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► massaging going on after I ok so i'm not [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► wrong that you should look at how beer [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► decided what a ridiculous notion [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► actually they did massage my period [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► right that's that's what I'm just [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► hearing from me it kind of puts this [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► like bid moisturizer [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► Ernie massages into my face many stung [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► yeah that's I'm gonna call that a beer [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► dressage Michael yeah it around that [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► first I was like I i'm filled this claim [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► and then the like roll back the the [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► thoughts and I was like all know he [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► could do that that's how it ends [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► so i'm currently in that state of when [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► you get a haircut and your clothes are [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► just stabbing you [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► you know I mean I mean that stage right [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► now it's uncomfortable [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► yeah funnily enough wearing the nail and [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► gear t-shirt flying the flag I get yep I [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► actually have a flag as well [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► perfect this is great crickets welcome [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► to the hello Internet nation [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► yeah talking about nations that actually [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► your back in this one after being away [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► for awhile i am again again [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► yes did you just you walk down to the [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► train station and appeared in Amsterdam [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► again is that what happened why is this [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► what i don't understand [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► 62like irritate you this whole thing is [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► so strange to me it's just so weird [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► so yeah I have relatively recently [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► returned from a second trip in Amsterdam [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► a second working trip in amsterdam and I [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► feel like it was in the theme of the [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► year of less i went there i did a lot of [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► a lot of thinking I did a lot of work [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► and it was a very good experience for me [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► I like the idea of the year of less [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► entails you going to another country and [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► like shacking up in a hotel reminds him [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► for a few weeks I feel like less would [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► be you know a more minimal environment [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► way or just a home an empty room or [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► something you know [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► okay okay okay okay so listen it's the [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► year of less and more extravagance you [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► coming yeah you're coming at this [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► becoming if this is the wrong way okay [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► so listen I took this trip because it [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► happened to work out that given a couple [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► of of scheduling things i had like a [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► week of no meetings or anything and so I [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► thought at the last moment again i was [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► going to take this trip and do some work [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► but it is [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► less like because the reason I find this [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► trip so beneficial is that it is a [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► decision minimal environment there's [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► there's nothing to decide on on a trip [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► like this so i say like I've done this a [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► hundred times for everything is the [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► second time I've done it but you may you [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► may hear from my voice and I'm thinking [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► in the future that this is a thing that [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► I might want to do again I've been [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► thinking about your cycles that you [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► mentioned last time this has been on my [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► mind a lot i have a hard time figuring [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► out how this exactly works in my [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► schedule but that that thing you said [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► last time about having a non week in an [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► off week I keep thinking about that and [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► how to do that on up on a broader scale [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► but so the hotel thing is the decisions [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► are taken away from me so I went to [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► Amsterdam with this whole notion of like [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► this very limited things here i'm going [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► to have the same food every day i'm not [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► going sightseeing or anything i'm just [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► going to have the same routine [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► everything is going to be super simple [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► and then plus since it is a hotel there [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► are many things like I have none of the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► concerns of a normal house or I don't [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► have to take out the garbage i don't [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► have to do any of this other stuff and [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► also because i am going on my own it's [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► like there's not another person that I'm [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► thinking when are they coming home [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► there's no external concerns here [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► decisions are very few and it has put me [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► in a very focused mindset and I fell [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► into a really great routine while i was [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► there that I have been attempting to [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► continue to follow since i have been [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► back so that it has been it's a great [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► experience but it is less Mike even [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► though I'm going somewhere else it's [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► definitely less gonna come back to that [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► routine that you mentioned before [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► why amsterdam again the but you could do [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► this in London or somewhere else in the [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► UK like what took you there again [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► because last time if i remember [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► correctly Amsterdam was a good location [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► because you're actually meeting with [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► some friends [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► yeah the the amsterdam thing this time [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► was mostly laziness [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► cuz i decided again at the last moment [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► that i was going to do this and I didn't [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► feel like trying to research a whole [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► other environment right I knew that the [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► place that I was going had the things [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► that I wanted it had minimally decorated [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► rooms of which even the decorations that [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► did exist I put them all in the closet [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► much the confusion of the hotel staff [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► and it had appropriate exercise [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► facilities and there was the ability to [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► run nearby and there were a couple of [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► places in the hotel to work like it [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► ticked all of the boxes for things that [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► I was looking for in a place to work and [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► I didn't want to spend a whole afternoon [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► you know trying to find a second new [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► place I thought since I'm doing this at [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► the last minute let me just go to the [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► guaranteed location [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► I've been thinking about this a lot and [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► it's it's it's hard to it's hard to [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► express but i feel like i have gained [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► this real feeling from doing this it's [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► actually kind of fun in my life when I [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► came back described it as they're like [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► oh you have been on the gray [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► incorporated company retreat but it's [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► just you like there's nobody else but [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► that this was the this was the [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► equivalent thing because when I came [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► back I was talking with her about it a [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► little bit and I imagine like many [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► annoying CEOs of large companies when [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► they go away on retreat they come back [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► in like how we have all these great [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► ideas for how we want to change the way [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► the company works right and all the [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► employees in a god oh now he's read some [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► business book and he has a whole new [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► idea about how things are going to [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► happen and i basically did that to [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► myself with just myself while it was an [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► Amsterdam thinking about it this morning [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► probably the thing i can say the most [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► clearly is in this theme of year of less [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► brackets me when I went here to work and [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► when I established this routine and when [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► there were no decisions to make about [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► what was going to happen it almost [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► brings into very sharp focus how limited [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► amount of time you have to accomplish [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► the number of things you want to do so [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► it's not necessarily that like the day [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► itself is [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► limited but if i look at the list of all [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► of the projects are all of the things [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► that I want to work on there are more [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► things on that list that i could [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► reasonably accomplished in an entire [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► lifetime right if we are in the David [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► Allen parlance looking at a someday [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► maybe list of all of the potential [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► projects that might want to do work on [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► it's like okay there's several human [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► lifetimes of stuff in here like there [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► isn't just enough time for anyone to [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► actually do everything that they want [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► and I don't know I think sometimes being [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► busy with a lot of the little day-to-day [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► stuff of life can kind of hide that I [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► don't know I feel like busyness is this [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► this feeling that you can get wrapped up [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► in that distracts you from how much you [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► are actually accomplishing and and [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► getting done whereas when i was there at [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► the hotel and thinking like okay I am [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► every day at this time just going to [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► write for a certain number of hours and [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► there's no decisions about this like [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► this is just what's going to happen [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► it makes it really clear that like okay [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► if you are working on the things that [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► are most important to you and then that [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► already takes up half of the day like at [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► best you have another half of the day to [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► do other stuff so like what are the [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► things that it's going to fill the rest [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► of that time somehow it just it made me [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► much more aware of the limited time and [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► energy in a way that is not so obvious [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► always in a in a busy [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► normal daily life situation one thinking [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► about is not even so much all of the [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► things that I would like to do forever [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► but sometimes just like all of the [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► things i need to do today who and quite [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► a lot of the time I don't have the time [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► to do them because of the things that [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► occur in my life that I want to do the [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► artwork right so for example when Dina [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► come home and we cook together we eat we [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► talk when we watch TV shows or movies [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► they're all things that I really want to [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► but if we I didn't do those things i [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► would have more time to get more work [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► done so if I had a really big project [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► and when I do have really big projects [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► we do skip those things but I can kind [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► of see the advantage of having a block [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► of time where there are no distractions [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► like that like i can the more that [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► you're talking about it and even though [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► it is still kind of a little bit crazy [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► and ridiculous to me I do start to see [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► the benefit of completely [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► uninterruptedly i can work for as long [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► as I want time there really is something [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► that is fundamentally different about [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► having big uninterruptedly lakhs of time [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► like even the most minor of of things so [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► when I work at home for example my wife [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► will go to work and then she comes back [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► at some point later in the day her [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► coming home is the world's most minor of [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► interruptions [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► but there's something about when i am [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► home and I'm working [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► there's an awareness of oh my wife is in [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► the house and then there's a feeling of [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► well there's an obligation to spend time [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► with her like and I want to spend time [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► with her and now she's here that's a [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► thing that we can definitely do and then [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► suddenly like the whole work environment [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► just shifts your brain is ever so [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► slightly now debating between two things [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► or having to resist doing the easier [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► option if there's something that you [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► need to finish working on whereas in [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► this kind of constrained environment it [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► like it's just me [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► there's there's no one here to see [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► there's no one here to talk to [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► there's just me and either the work that [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► I'm doing or the few books that i have [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► brought with me that I want to read and [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► focus on and that's it like there is no [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► other place for the brain to get [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► distracted by I think it's really [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► important to point out the those [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► distractions are extremely important [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► that they should happen right like the [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► idea of you deciding i'm going to move [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► to [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► forever on my own because I can do more [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► work 24-7 that is not a healthy thing to [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► do right like you you agree with that [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► yeah yeah they are distractions yes but [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► they're worthwhile distractions but [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► there are times where it's good to just [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► be able to focus completely on something [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► there's two clarifications that I want [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► to bring up here right but the first is [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► that if this podcast has not already [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► made it clear i'll refer you to episode [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► number one entitled I don't really like [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► work and that i have no desire to move [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► to Amsterdam permanently leave all of [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► the responsibilities of my life behind [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► and just work all day every day because [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► I don't really like work fredley it's i [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► am not consumed by work in the way that [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► I think someone like he's always my [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► go-to but like someone like Richard [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► Branson I think for example is a person [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► who is always feel that he's like a [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► broken person but he's broken in a [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► useful way and that that man gets his [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► thrills out of starting new companies he [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► obviously can't not start new companies [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► and always be doing business like that [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► is his obsession and that is why he's a [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► billionaire with a billion companies i [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► I'm not that kind of person i have never [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► been that kind of person i have no [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► aspirations to be that kind of person I [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► am much more interested in the idea of [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► how do i get the maximum amount of [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► result for the amount of time that I'm [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► putting in and one of the things that [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► also aligns with the year of less for me [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► is really trying to be very aware of any [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► kind of working time that is not [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► maximally effective and this is what i [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► mean by a little bit like a like [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► busyness is bad it's very easy to be [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► busy and feel like you're doing a whole [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► bunch of stuff but not actually doing [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► the things that are really [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► and so so going to Amsterdam was not [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► about boy I can't wait to work all day [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► every day because that it like that's [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► not something that necessarily find [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► enjoyable for me it was about I am [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► deciding in advance that this is a place [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► where i am going to be very focused for [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► a finite amount of time on the things [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► that are the most important and so [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► that's why when I was there I was [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► focused primarily on my health actually [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► and then also on writing scripts which [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► is the most valuable thing that I can do [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► in terms of my business and if I wasn't [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► either exercising or writing i was [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► reading a few books that i thought would [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► be helpful in thinking about like the [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► direction of things for the next year [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► and about business and and the rest of [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► it's like those those were the [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► activities that I was focusing on [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► primarily and it it's funny because [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► again like when I think about my routine [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► for the day and how things were going at [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► the end of every day i felt just exhaust [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► I felt just completely drained from the [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► result of a lot of like a full day of [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► being mentally focused on just the [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► things that are the most important so a [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► trip like this to me is valuable and [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► possible i think a key part of it is [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► because there is a clear end point right [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► where it's like I'm going to do this [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► thing at maximum capacity for X number [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► of days and when you have something like [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► that in your mind it's much easier to [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► stick with but I think if I was if I was [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► trying to work like that all of the time [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► just in my normal life I don't think [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► that I could possibly do it like i think [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► i would i would burn out very fast or [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► just be too exhausted after after a [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► certain point like you can't you can't [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► live your life like a monk in a cabin [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► in a city forever or at least I don't [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► want to live my life like that business [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► monk [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► yeah like a business monk it's not [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► possible do you not worry though that [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► the more that you do this the more that [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► you may become dependent on it does not [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► concern you like if you keep doing this [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► so you do this every couple of months [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► you don't worry that you might get in a [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► situation where you can only fully focus [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► when you're in these types of [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► surroundings [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► it's funny while i was actually there [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► one of the books i was reading was [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► talking about in one section just as a [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► slight tangent like The Incredible port [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► importance of working at hotels and [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► working at different environments that [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► was like oh this is positively [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► reinforcing they were describing those [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► things JK Rowling and talking about how [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► she couldn't finish her last book and it [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► helped ended up like booking the entire [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► top floor of some hotel in glasgow and [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► just working there to finish the final [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► harry potter book that's too much she [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► didn't need the whole full you know the [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► penthouse suite or whatever the [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► penthouse ok right like at the top there [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► is the foot that's the hopefully she [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► books out seven rubes I can't really see [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► that there are you don't want neighbors [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► not even in the hotel nobody remembers [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► I'm not worried at all about this [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► becoming a thing that is a necessity for [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► me because I am viewing this as one of [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► the the tools in my arsenal and I really [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► do me like i have been trying to think a [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► lot about trying to do this on some kind [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► of regular schedule and it just so [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► happens that it's been about three [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► months since the last time I went [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► something like oh maybe this is a thing [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► that i can try to plan for to do like [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► once a quarter and maybe the idea of [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► having that as a as a thing that I can [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► anticipate and plan for maybe this would [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► work really well in in a schedule as as [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► part of this idea like have a cycle to [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► your work don't just have a constant [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► uniform grind to what it is that you're [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► doing [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► I think the only way you can save [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► yourself from yourself is to put this in [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► your schedule [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► I genuinely mean that as well like I [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► think if you don't plan this type of [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► thing in you you could end up in a [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► situation for you cannot work in London [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► let's see I think it's the exact reverse [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► here that if I don't put this in a [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► schedule it will be very difficult to [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► actually make time for this again this [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► this trip just happened because a bunch [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► of things in a particular we cancelled [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► leaving me unexpectedly free but that's [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► not a normal situation so I think it's [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► actually the reverse I need to plan for [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► this to ensure that it does happen [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► not if i don't plan for it it will creep [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► and take over my entire life [TS]

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00:22:51 ◼   ► you mentioned a routine ya doing email [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► again half the time i'm still terrible [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► at email that's absolutely terrible at [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► email [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► yeah I I i had a good routine they're [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► described the general day look like that [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► so I i got up at about six in the [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► morning most days and i went down to the [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► restaurants and I got the same same [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► breakfast every morning because it'sit's [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► no decision so we just get an omelet and [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► I would get a coffee and I would read [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► for maybe half an hour while i was [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► having breakfast and then right after [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► having breakfast i went back up to the [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► hotel room and this is kind of key thing [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► was in the hotel room I then had my my [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► pad pro actually set up sort of Honor [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► this is on a chair on a desk in the [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► hotel rooms that I was at standing [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► height and i would write the scripts [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► that I was currently working on for as [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► long as i was able to do that like as [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► long as I could stay focused on this [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► script and still feel like i am making [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► progress on it and so these were usually [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► sessions that were like three or maybe [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► four hours long depending on the morning [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► and as always at the stuff i look kind [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► of like a crazy person because the most [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► effective way for me to spend time [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► writing is actually [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► to be talking it out loud so it was a [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► lot of time of I'm standing up I'm kind [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► of pacing back and forth a little bit [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► but reading reading it out loud or like [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► trying out new sentences out loud and [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► then adding them to the script if I like [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► them are cutting stuff out and so that [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► that is without a doubt and also [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► according to my spreadsheets the most [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► effective way that i can spend my time [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► it is bringing a script closer to [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► completion and it is also the most [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► focused and mentally draining of the [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► time that i can spend and I think in [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► some ways this is this is similar to [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► people who do computer programming that [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► blocks of uninterruptedly time where you [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► can really get into the focus of it is [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► incredibly valuable and difficult to [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► replicate time and just the simple [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► knowledge that there was nothing else on [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► my calendar for the rest of the day like [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► there was no podcaster record there was [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► no Bank appointment to go to there was [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► no nothing it mentally changes the frame [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► like it it it feels like there is a [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► relief like the brain can relax and say [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► okay look if if we were here for five [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► hours or six hours it wouldn't matter [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► because there's nowhere to be like you [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► can just focus on this thing until the [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► point at which you are done and you [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► don't have to worry about trying to shut [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► stuff down before you're finished or not [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► so that that part of the day like just [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► that morning part was the absolute most [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► valuable thing like getting up at a [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► consistent time having as people know [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► like I'm very sensitive to changes in [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► the early morning schedule like if [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► things don't go quite right in the [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► morning it has bad knock-on effects [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► forming was like no this is going to [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► work perfectly every time in this hotel [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► because you're going to get up the [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► restaurants always going to be there is [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► always going to be nobody there because [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► you're the only lunatic in the [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► restaurant at six in the morning you're [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► going to get the exact same on that [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► you're going to read for the same [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► amount of time then you're going to go [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► up and you're going to be able to now [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► focus on the writing in an environment [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► where you're guaranteed not to be [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► interrupted and you have nothing on the [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► schedule later in the day so that was [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► the that was the morning part of it when [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► i was done writing then that was where I [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► changed and I focused on health so that [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► I would go to the gym or i would go for [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► a run so I was alternating that on [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► either days and at that point like after [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► going to the gym or going for a run [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► which always takes a surprisingly long [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► amount of time for some reason my brain [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► I'm always thinking like oh good [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► exercising is going to take half an hour [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► but but the whole thing between like [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► getting ready actually exercising and [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► then coming back and and taking a shower [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► and change like I find that whole thing [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► takes way longer than you always think [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► it does nothing I wanted to yeah that's [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► exactly it [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► maybe that's what is my brain is like as [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► will be 20 minutes it's like actually [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► it's like an hour-and-a-half buddy do [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► you know this right like this happens [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► every day like that i'll be twenty [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► minutes this time now I've got it down [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► yeah it just it just never works out [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► that way and so I at this point having [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► done the writing mental exhaustion and [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► then exercise physical exhaustion I was [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► a completely drained human being [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► it's just like I can do nothing now and [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► so as I have learned well this is an [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► excellent time to do the thing that i [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► mentioned on earlier podcast which is [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► the the coffee power nap thing right [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► where you have some caffeine right [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► before taking a nap which then allows [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► you to sleep briefly but wake up without [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► any kind of sleep inertia and then in [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► the rest of the day like afternoons are [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► not super productive times for me as i [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► have mentioned but then i would read for [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► a large portion of the afternoon until [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► there was an early dinner that I would [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► have always the same thing there was one [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► restaurant that I was either ordering a [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► burger from or this kind of chicken [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► dinner from alternating either days so [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► again no decisions to be made there [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► whatsoever and then in the evenings [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► often find that I have an additional [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► burst [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► of energy to work on things and then I [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► was working on just a bunch of projects [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► that had been causing me the most amount [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► of stress related to my business i [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► finally finished a whole bunch of stuff [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► related to taxes and like it's just a [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► bunch of business nonsense that it's not [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► super important in the same way that a [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► video is but it was important to get [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► done because i had been aware that in [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► the past few months it had been really [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► dragging on my mind so I was able to [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► really kill a few projects while i was [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► there that feel like they were mentally [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► freeing to get done and then you know [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► after after that maybe just read a [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► little bit before bed and then fall [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► asleep and do the whole thing again the [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► next day and it was glorious [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► it was absolutely glorious yeah knowing [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► you as I know you I can see what you [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► left that it's also i like I didn't [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► leave the hotel most days because there [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► was no need to as crazy as it sounds [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► there was no time to make it really felt [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► that way [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► yeah sure almost every day like I like [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► this is what i mean by there's this [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► feeling of it highlights the year of [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► less in a way that is hard to articulate [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► was like in some ways i was doing so [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► little but also never felt like the days [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► were shorter like how could I possibly [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► do anything else how could I have any [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► other life outside of this i know not [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► like the the day just flies by [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► even though it's like okay what have I [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► done I've done some writing I've done [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► some exercise done some reading and I've [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► done some administration it's like for [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► actual discrete tasks but then the day [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► is over and i'm exhausted [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► why can't you replicate a lot of the [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► home because Mike life life intrudes in [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► a way [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► life finds away yeah life finds a way to [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► annoy you and this kind of activity is [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► an artificial holding at bay a bunch of [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► things like you can't actually live your [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► life and this totally disconnected way [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► and as contrast because i had been [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► holding a bunch of things back when I [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► returned home everything was waiting for [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► and the very first day that I had back [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► after this amsterdam trip was the exact [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► opposite of this that's like okay so I [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► get up in the morning and my wife is [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► awake as well and so she's getting ready [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► for work and like we have a little [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► morning routine like we're talking to [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► each other and then so she goes off to [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► work and I sit down and like okay I'm [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► gonna get going to get right to writing [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► now and not five minutes later like the [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► front doorbell rings and there's a [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► package from amazon you know [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► okay great thanks ok fine package from [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► amazon like a sign for it I grabbed it I [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► go back to sit down and literally not [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► ten minutes later because i had to check [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► my watch because i couldn't believe that [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► it wasn't true [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► ding dong bell rings again and there's a [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► guy who needs to come and check the gas [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► meter in the house no okay fine [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► come in and check the gas meter and so [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► don't worry i only be five minutes okay [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► but now there's someone in the house and [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► I can't be pacing around like a crazy [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► person talking out loud and writing and [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► it's also just weird that someone's [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► there and of course with these things [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► it's a creeping delay and he's not there [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► for five minutes [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► he's actually there for an hour and a [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► half like that's how long he was there [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► for what was he doing there was [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► something broke in and something needs [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► to be fixed and then a second guy need [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► to come and it's like it my perspective [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► on it is like I don't care what they [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► were doing right it doesn't matter they [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► just need to fix something in the house [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► but it just took forever and then I had [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► after that there was a phone call that I [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► had to take like a meeting that I had to [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► take with someone while I had to take [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► that meeting someone else came to the [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► house who need to repair a lock on the [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► front door so like I need so now I'm [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► like on the phone while someone's in the [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► house repairing a lock on the front door [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► and the lock guy leaves because i was on [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► the phone I didn't have a chance like [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► check his work entirely and it didn't [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► wasn't fix the first time so like now I [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► need to arrange for him to come back and [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► do this other thing I forget what it was [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► there was some other thing that happened [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► in the evening and it was one of these [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► days was like I cannot believe this this [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► is the exact opposite of this experience [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► like i have now come back i have had an [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► entire day that his felt really busy and [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► draining but over which I feel like I [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► have accomplished literally nothing like [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► the gas that i thought was fine was [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► fixed but so from my perspective like [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► nothing has really changed [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► I do and wanted to fix the lock but [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► didn't fix the lock and then you know [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► it's just like I received some packages [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► okay great packages i obviously there's [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► stuff in the house that I need these [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► packages for but when i'm in a hotel [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► like I don't need any of these things [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► because all just taken care of so this [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► is what I mean like it's an artificial [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► environment that only works for a [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► limited amount of time right you you [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► have to come back to regular life and [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► regular like this has all of these [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► little intrusions that are that are [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► frustrating but the one thing that I [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► have definitely taken away from this [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► like the concrete thing that is going to [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► be different is I am now looking for a [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► dedicated office space in London so I [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► don't I don't yet know how practical [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► this idea is I don't have a good [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► understanding of the office space rental [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► market around where I am I don't know [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► I'm just beginning to look into this but [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► from this trip I was thinking about it [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► afterwards and thinking okay what was [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► the most valuable part the most valuable [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► part was that initial writing and the [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► thing that it depended on was a space [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► that was my own that was private at [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► which i will receive no interruptions [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► and so I thought okay let me try to [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► replicate this [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► so what I'm going to try to do is just [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► find an office it's like a room [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► somewhere nearby that has a door that I [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► can close so with my own space and I can [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► just go there first thing in the morning [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► and not either try to stay at home but [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► then be vaguely worried about just [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► pointless interruptions which happen all [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► the time especially when you live in a [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► building where there's like 15 [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► apartments and so anybody delivering [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► packages all the time will just press [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► all of the button so that someone [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► answers which is hugely frustrating so [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► that's the idea like I'm gonna see if I [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► can replicate at least the most valuable [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► part of that experience going forward in [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► the future but I really literally just [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► have started this in the past couple [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► days I don't have any idea if this is [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► gonna work out or how practical it is [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► but I'm [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► I'm hoping to take away this valuable [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► part and reproduce it here when you said [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► that those is part of made it was gonna [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► ask you but seriously was going to ask [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► you all that sounds interesting let me [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► know if you need a desk mate and then [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► realize how that is like the complete [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► opposite of what you want you would be [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► the worst Deskmate you'd be the works [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► because I'll be so awesome [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► no you'd be doing podcasting stuff I [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► wouldn't record from the office doesn't [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► matter it doesn't matter if i don't have [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► a desk mate i'm not i'm not splitting [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► the rent with you this is the whole [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► purpose of this thing exactly that's why [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► that's why so ridiculous that had the [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► idea like all this is a good idea I'll [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► go in with you and then realized how [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► terrible that would be yeah maybe we [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► just find someone with two rooms and we [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► just never talked to each other now I [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► just don't take this the wrong way Mike [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► but I don't want to be anywhere near you [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► with my office and flickers gotta be [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► separate this is the whole thing has to [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► be completely separate keep my office [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► away from you for those listeners who [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► remembered me mentioning in path that I [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► do have a co-working space and wondering [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► what the deal is going on this trip made [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► me realize something that was obvious in [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► retrospect but was not obvious until I [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► had a break from it which is that over [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► maybe the past six months in particular [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► my co-working space has gotten very [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► popular it is very busy and I used to be [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► very good at using it outside of normal [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► business hours using it in the evening [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► when I could have it all to myself or [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► using it on the weekends when no one [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► would come in or sometimes using it very [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► early in the morning but I sort of [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► didn't notice that over the last six [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► months there were always people there [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► now it doesn't matter what time i show [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► up it doesn't matter if it's on the [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► weekend i'm always always have this [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► thought right which is great so I'll [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► walk in and it'll be like 6 p.m. on a [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► sunday and i think okay great i'll let [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► me go to space and have it to my own i [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► can i can talk out loud and I walk in [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► and they'll be some people in there and [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► I'll always have the exact same thought [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► like who are these losers in this [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► co-working space right now what's wrong [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► with year that you have a life that is [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► it always my father uh what the hell are [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► you guys doing here [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► I'm supposed to be the only loser who's [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► here right now put your [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► here this ruins everything for me but [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► again it's it sounds dumb but something [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► about like this slow increase of people [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► being there over a long period of time [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► made the change invisible [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► yeah until I realized like oh man having [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► a guaranteed private space that i can go [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► to without interruption is invaluable is [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► like duh [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► man that's so obvious but you don't [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► notice things until you see until [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► there's like a change and then you can [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► reflect back on what what is different [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► so that that is that has been extremely [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► valuable for me if I was in the position [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► location wise to be able to read to rent [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► an office space just like that which I [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► could set up equipment and it could be [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► all safe and it's over in walking [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► distance [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► I would have done that already who it is [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► continuing to work a hundred percent [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► home [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► I don't think in the long term is going [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► to be the best scenario for me [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► yes actually it's actually brings up [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► another thing that has come to the front [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► of my mind as a result of this trip [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► which is I have this clear feeling of [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► location contamination and what I mean [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► by this is I I the longer i had been [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► self-employed the more firmly I believe [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► in this idea like okay when you don't [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► have clear constraints on your work it [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► is very helpful to associate particular [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► activities with particular routines or [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► locations and so even within the hotel [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► when I was in Amsterdam I was very [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► conscious of i am only on this side of [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► the room when I'm talking out loud and [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► doing the writing and i'm only going to [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► be at this table in this cafe downstairs [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► when i'm doing administration stuff to [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► clear other projects like the only thing [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► i'm doing in the gym is i am working out [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► in the gym I'm not lounging around since [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► they was doing the gym ahead take my [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► laptop to the gym [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► no matter how like they had like a spot [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► section kind of thing and I just like [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► this is this feels like a weird [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► contamination like they had a place [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► where you can sit you know anything no I [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► don't want to do this and listen to like [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► Zen music or something like now this is [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► to this is like the same routine and the [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► same environment like going into the gym [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► and you know getting flip-flops or [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► whatever I just feel like you have to [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► keep things clear and and mixing stuff [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► is bad and I don't know what episode it [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► was on but on one of the earlier [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► episodes of cortex that I made a comment [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► and it's like okay now I understand why [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► but I i said that i have found that my [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► home office even though i am super [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► thrilled to have it is a place of a [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► really low per our productivity in many [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► ways for me and I think I know why now [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► and the reason is because I have since I [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► moved in here done almost every single [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► kind of activity in this room like I [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► will write scripts in this room i will [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► animate in this room i'm recording a [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► podcast right now in this room i will [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► edit a podcast in this room i will also [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► then do administration like email work [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► here but like also when I'm editing a [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► podcast i'll be playing a game at the [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► same time in this room is like this [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► office is great to have at home but it [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► is suffering from this problem of like [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► it's not clear to my brain [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► what am I supposed to be doing right now [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► in this space [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► it's never clear because i do almost [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► absolutely everything so my idea with [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► trying to rent out an office space in [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► London if i can do it is i'm going to [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► try very hard to only have writing and [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► talking out loud happened in that room [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► right there is i'm going to go into this [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► room going to do this particular [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► activity and if I'm not doing this [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► particular activity i'm going to leave [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► brightness that I think I want my brain [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► to learn that this happens here and then [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► that that it has like a little bit more [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► of a separation was like okay then my [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► home office becomes much more of a [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► a podcast recording and editing place [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► but i'm not even going to try to write [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► in my home office i'm going to try to [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► always do it in a particular place i'm [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► convinced that this is very helpful but [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► i'm curious to try to be much more [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► conscious about this going forward to [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► have like locations and routines [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► associated with particular kinds of work [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► so I never for example want to bring all [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► of my tax paperwork and do like do all [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► of that stuff in the same place that I [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► want to be the place where I do writing [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► i'm going to try to keep things much [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► more separate going going forward from [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► here on out you know what makes it was [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► what when your officers also your [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► bedroom [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► well I have as I was discussing about [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► this i was thinking about you Mike [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► yeah who do you want to tell the people [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► why you were thinking about that gray [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► yeah because we actually had our first [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► facetime chat ever that's not so great i [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► need to call me for something and [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► instead of calling me on live audio like [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► people do I see [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► cgpgrey cooling i press the answer [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► button and LP pops any concede my [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► bedroom that I didn't want you my [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► bedroom gray well you know you let me in [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► the press we accept but yeah I can't [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► wait to change this like you know and I [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► understand the idea of like having the [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► Home Office brings those problems but [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► i'm really looking forward to sleeping [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► in a different room but my Jessica's in [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► oh yeah don't get me wrong like the Home [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► Office problem [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► this is way better than having a single [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► room in which you do literally [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► everything having your podcasting studio [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► also be your bedroom is is frustrating [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► it's frustrating but you didn't make [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► your bed when I called I was surprised [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► that was just unmade bed in the [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► background so tell people my secrets but [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► you don't make your bed at I'm sure [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► nobody else does that just isn't as a [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► quick piece of evidence that i think [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► favors this theory is going back to [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► what you refer to as the spider dungeon [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► I have a spot attention the original [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► place where i started my youtube career [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► I think that that is great evidence for [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► this because like that environment was [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► horrible but it had the key feature that [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► my brain learned like when you are in [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► the basement you are writing and this is [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► the only activity that we do down here [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► because it's a horrible place we can [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► tell what its day but it's also the only [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► place where I could be on my own and [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► talk out loud and not disturb you know [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► my wife or neighbors or anybody else or [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► anything so I feel like I lucked out in [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► my early career by doing that kind of [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► behavior train your brain to associate [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► this work with this place and in the [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► past couple years I haven't been doing [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► that so much has been a lot of bleeding [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► over of edges and boundaries and so i [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► think i'm going to attempt to [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► reinstitute that as a lesson that I have [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► learned from my most recent trip and [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► amsterdam [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► I don't know Mike how well I've been [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► explaining this stuff i have this [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► feeling as a result of the end of this [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► trip is difficult to articulate and you [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► know only analogy that I can make is I [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► have I have heard from people who do [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► psychedelic substances they have a [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► feeling that sticks with them long after [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► doing psychedelic substances that they [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► find difficult to articulate but that [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► nonetheless is a positive experience [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► that they find influences their future [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► behavior [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► mhm and I think that's what amsterdam [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► this trip was like for me in the most [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► boring work way possible i feel like [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► i've had some kind of business [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► psychedelic experience that is [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► impossible to explain to outsiders but [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► is nonetheless positive and is affecting [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► my future decisions so in summary you [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► went to answer them you had a [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► psychedelic experience and now you're [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► gonna get an office [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► yeah okay the end today's episode of [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► cortex is ever so kindly brought to you [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► by smile and today I want to talk to you [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► about PDF pen your Swiss are [TS]

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00:46:35 ◼   ► and taking control of PDF so if PDF pen [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► you will have all of the basics covered [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► if you need to fill in sign a form maybe [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► need to make edits highlight something [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► redact something maybe OCR something so [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► you can get the text from a PDF to use [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► in other apps you've got all of that [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► taking care of but you will be like a [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► wizard of pdfs when you use word export [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► page numbering base numbering and so [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► much more [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► PDF man has got it all with PDF pen for [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► ipad and iphone you'll be able to take [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► control of contracts and forms no matter [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► where you are to see something i do all [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► the time I'm maybe I'm working in my [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► co-working space or maybe i'm just [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► sitting on the sofa and I get a contract [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► come through for my email i can open it [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► in on iOS using a lovely PDF pen I sign [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► it with my Apple pencil that I hold so [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► dear as you all know by now and send it [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► straight off to the person that I need [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► to send it to and it's done so easily [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► with PDF and I can even add my name your [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► type in that sort of stuff and add some [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► fields input the day 10 [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► it's all so so simple if you're the type [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► of person that enjoys of hapless office [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► PDF pen is for you no more printing [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► scanning and faxing when i get those [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► contracts I'm not hooking up my ipad to [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► a printer and then trying to take a [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► picture of it to scan in I don't do any [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► of that [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► just fill in and sign with PDF pen and [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► you'll be on your way [TS]

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00:47:59 ◼   ► from the very talented mr. David Sparkes [TS]

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00:48:05 ◼   ► short videos we'll teach you everything [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► that you need to know about PDF pan [TS]

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00:48:15 ◼   ► PDF pen over a small software.com / [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► cortex PDF n7m PDF pen pro 7 require 70 [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► and what beautifully on El Capitan pdf [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► pattern for iOS is available from the [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► app store i would like to thank smile [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► and PDF pan for sponsoring this week's [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► episode of cortex and helping us out a [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► relay of them there's been another beta [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► Mike came out unlike I think the day we [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► released our last episode [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► yeah so I was in this weird feeling [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► where as much as I want Apple pencil [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► support to to come back to us in the way [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► that we wish when that came out a little [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► bit like man if they put it back in [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► today apples were in the sure i was in [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► her i was in a real quandary great about [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► do I want it back enough that yeah i'm [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► happy for the show to be completely [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► outdated within hours the answer is yes [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► Mike [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► yes and you know you felt you felt in it [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► some sort of conflict about this because [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► of your business man tendencies but I [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► couldn't have cared less [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► I wanted that I wanted the pencil [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► support back the way it's supposed to be [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► immediately and I would have gladly [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► immolated the show that we had just [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► released hours before in order to have [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► that but you still have your wish here [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► Mike because i'm going to talk about the [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► Apple pencil some more because nothing [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► nothing has changed [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► actually that's not strictly true [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► because i have had several independent [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► unrelated sources in the no confirmed to [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► me what was simply a fear last time that [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► removing the functionality of the Apple [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► pencil is a decision inside of Apple it [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► is not a bug that they have overlooked [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► 43 betas it is a decision and I [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► obviously think it is an absolutely [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► disastrous decision but it seems like [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► this is something that Apple wants to do [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► differently and i would like to take [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► another swing at trying to convince them [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► to not do this differently [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► yeah i would also like that so what we [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► can carry on on this but it has been [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► frustrating to hear this from a few [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► different corners of people saying that [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► that this this is something that Apple [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► wants to do have you been invited to [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► cupertino for secret meeting yet i have [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► not been invited to cupertino I am I am [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► waiting just check your spam folder with [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► its revolting but if you are at apple [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► and would like to invite you to [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► cupertino up please use the contact form [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► on my website [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► I think my personal assistant can find [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► that and bring it to my attention [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► because i'm terrible at email i would [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► really hate to seek an email from tim @ [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► apple.com three months from now when I [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► actually go through all of my public you [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► okay it could be in that you don't even [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► no it can't be in there but maybe I [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► should search for at apple.com after the [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► fuck haha so here's what here's the [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► thing here's the thing right so i think [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► this is a terrible decision but I have [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► been given some indications from people [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► that they're like oh but don't worry [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► apple has amazing stuff planned for the [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► pencil [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► yeah and as we try to discuss last time [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► I don't care at all about the amazing [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► stuff that they have planned but but [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► trying to think it through so I here [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► here is my imagining of what is going on [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► an apple [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► okay what do you want the pencil to be [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► able to do that you can't do if the [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► pencil can scroll the safari web page or [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► turn a page in a book or slide over and [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► share she like what like what is on [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► their mind and my best guess at this is [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► that Apple's idea is they want people to [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► be able to mark up whatever they are [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► looking at this this has been a very [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► popular theory in the red thread as well [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► the the thing that really makes me sad [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► about this is it seems to me like the [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► perfect kind of thing that makes a great [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► demo on stage like I can see someone [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► who's thinking about demoing new [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► features on stage loving the idea of [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► pulling up a website circling something [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► on that website and then being able to [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► send like a picture of the screen with [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► the circle on the page to their friend [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► or whatever it just seemed like a great [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► tech demo that someone would love to do [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► despite like the actual usefulness of [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► that like how much is someone going to [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► do that in the same way that I think of [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► those little all of those demos about oh [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► you're going to be able to draw a tiny [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► flower on your watch that you will then [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► send to someone you like I don't think [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► there's a lot of people out there who [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► are still using the drawing features on [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► their watch great tech demo actually not [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► so useful in real [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► life so I think this is what the utility [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► of the Apple pencil is being sacrificed [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► for and I don't think that's a good [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► trade-off [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► here's what I've been thinking about the [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► ipad pro is being sold as a professional [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► tool and when I think about what does [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► that mean professionals need tools that [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► are more precise than just using their [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► meaty monkey hands on a screen [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► I think for any kind of professional [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► work that someone does you need a [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► precision pointing device and so for [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► example I think of I think of the mac [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► and so on the mac in my own work i do [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► animating I work with audio i work with [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► video and do all the kinds of stuff that [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► Apple in their commercials just like [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► loves to see people doing on their [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► machines we look at this creative work [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► like this writer uses it he draws [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► Stephanie makes videos to do all of [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► those things you need if you're going to [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► do it professionally a professional tool [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► if for example Apple decided that only [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► track pads were allowed on the mac if [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► that would be a horrible experience for [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► almost any professional like I dare you [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► to go to Pixar for example and take away [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► all of their weak home tablets and hand [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► them track pads and say open look you [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► can paint with your fingers on this [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► track pad on the screen isn't that great [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► it's a one-to-one experience you're able [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► to touch this thing and make it make a [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► line on the screens like no listen for [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► professional work you need professional [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► tools and those tools need to be precise [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► now a trackpad much like iOS is for a [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► normal user a much more intuitive [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► experience because it is a direct [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► one-to-one relationship like you move [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► your hand on the trackpad and the thing [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► moves on the screen or you do gestures [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► and stuff [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► people love trackpads but professionals [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► need better tools and so when I look at [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► the ipad [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► add the whole of the ipad is already a [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► trackpad like the whole freaking screen [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► is the trackpad and now if you want to [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► have something that you are selling to [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► professionals that you want [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► professionals to use you need additional [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► tools for the future of the platform you [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► need a precision pointing device and [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► apple has made that very precision [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► pointing device it works two day right [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► now i think one of the things to point [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► out at this point which i think is a [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► really important distinction is that [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► when you're saying about professionals [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► doing professional work let's imagine [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► that part of what you're talking about [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► here is animating right you do the [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► animations with the pencil and that [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► works even with the 93 beta restriction [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► the problem is if you want to change [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► tools if you want to scroll through a [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► list of tools you have to mold shift you [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► have to put the ANCYL way you have to [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► use your finger that friction is enough [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► to make you not want to use it [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► that is exactly the thing i am thinking [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► about something like a podcasting tool [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► in the future on on ipad pro this is [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► something that like I know there are so [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► now but i'm trying to think about the [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► future of these tools and so if you were [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► say editing a podcast on an ipad pro i [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► can easily see a situation that kind of [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► like Maps the very wacom tablet that we [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► were talking about a couple shows ago [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► now onto the screen where you could say [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► like do gestures with one hand and you [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► can be doing precision pointing and and [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► cutting with the pencil in the other [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► hand without a doubt with professional [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► level tools you constantly need to shift [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► stuff right it's not going to be a basic [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► painting app you're using a vector [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► drawing tool it's not going to be [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► something like garageband if you want to [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► have a professional audio tool on an [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► ipad pro and you're not going to be able [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► to have something like iMovie be usable [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► for for professionals on an ipad pro you [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► need much more in-depth tools and you [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► know what much more in-depth tools [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► require lots of menus lots of submenus [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► lots of list that you scroll through [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► switching things all over the time and [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► if apple says you can't use the pencil [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► like this professional tool to navigate [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► the interface fully I think it limits [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► the way these things can be made like it [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► just it makes them so much more [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► frustrating it's frustrating on both [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► ends like it's frustrating if someone is [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► say trying to design a professional [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► drawing app for the iPad pro and then [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► thinking oh right but I I shouldn't make [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► any of these lists long because if [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► someone has the pencil in their hands [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► are not going to be able to scroll with [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► it and it's also frustrating like you [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► said because it makes someone who is a [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► professional I kind of not want to just [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► use the pencil all the time as this tool [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► if you constantly have to mode shift [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► back and forth who does Apple think this [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► is for like if the pencil is just for [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► drawing and just for basic markup like [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► the ipad pro is already a niche apple [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► product the pencil within that is a [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► niche within an itch but I think like [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► the ipad pro with the pencil as it is [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► apple's market there is every artist or [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► everyone who works on a computer that [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► uses a wacom tablet right like that is [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► no small market but if they then say [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► like okay the pencil can only be used in [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► markup it can't be used in the interface [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► it's like okay well anybody who uses pen [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► tablet professionally that's not an [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► attractive option like that's a [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► pointlessly frustrating option i don't [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► know i just i see so much potential in [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► the ipad pro for the future with the [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► addition of this precision pointing tool [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► and it seems insane to me to limit that [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► future like to limit what people can do [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► because you have an idea of how you want [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► people to use it [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► and there was that there's a link about [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► Johnny I've a while ago talking about [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► the pencil and and how he thinks about [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► it and it's pretty clear from this [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► interview that like Johnny I've in his [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► mind has [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► mind has [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► the thing that we mentioned last time [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► that he imagines people are just going [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► to use the pencil to draw pretty [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► pictures and he doesn't want it to be [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► confused for a useful tool for [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► professionals on a device called the [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► ipad pro let me read a quote to you this [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► is sent into us by a listener with the [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► name Matt I think there's a potential to [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► confuse the role of the pencil with the [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► role of your finger and iOS and I [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► actually think it's very clear the [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► pencils for making marks and the finger [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► is a fundamental point of interface for [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► everything within the operating system [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► and those are two very different [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► activities of two very different goals [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► that is directly from Johnny I've I [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► understand what he's saying but he's [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► wrong but I get what he's trying to set [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► out to do I can completely understand [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► that argument that there is some level [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► of simplicity to the idea that your [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► fingers navigate the interface and the [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► pencil is for making marks i can [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► understand where he's coming from [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► I just think that's so limiting you know [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► the problem with it [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► what didn't ship that way apple gave us [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► a taste of what we now feel is too is [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► the perfect solution which is the pencil [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► operates everything if they shipped the [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► way it's currently in the 9.2 beta it [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► shipped the way that Jony ive clearly [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► set out to make it happen we wouldn't be [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► upset right now I would still be pretty [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► upset if the pencil couldnt navigate the [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► interface you would do you think oh I [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► would like it if it could do that but [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► you wouldn't know what you're missing [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► I wouldn't feel how I feel now which is [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► that almost like i have been personally [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► burned by Apple Apple handed me the most [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► amazing perfect tool for the future of [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► my work and the future of many other [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► people's work and they took it away it's [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► it's this line here where he says the [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► finger is the fundamental point of [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► interface for everything in the [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► operating system that to me is the [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► worrying part a vision of iOS for the [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► rest of time that requires you to always [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► be pressing just your fingers [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► and only your fingers against the screen [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► fingers are a great way into a platform [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► like clearly the success of the iphone [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► was in no small part due to the fact [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► that people could just touch the buttons [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► on the screen with their hands right [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► like no doubt about that but to then to [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► the hens say like for iOS four now these [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► huge iOS screens that they're building [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► like that this device the interface can [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► only and forever be navigated with human [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► meaty fingers and cannot be interacted [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► with using other tools i just think that [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► is it deep deep mistake to make it is [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► the same to me is just saying on a Mac [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► if only touchpads could be used to [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► interact with the interface you can't [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► use keyboard shortcuts right you [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► couldn't use anything else like that's [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► the same level of decision here and [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► that's also the thing that I find [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► frustrating especially with the pro [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► because it's like okay when you think [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► that the finger is the fundamental point [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► of interface for the system uh why then [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► can i press command space on the ipad [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► pro and bring up spotlight and start [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► typing in spotlight that's not using my [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► finger for the interface [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► why do you have command tab on on the [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► ipad pro allowing me to access the task [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► switcher without touching the screen she [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► could it be that these are features that [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► the vast majority of users never touch [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► never even know exist but that for [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► professional users are vital every [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► single day maybe that's the same thing [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► with keyboard shortcuts like I i would [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► bet for anything Apple nose on the Mac [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► where they have data about this that [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► like point 0 1 percent of users ever use [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► any keyboard shortcuts like when I see [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► normal people using computers they never [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► use keyboard shortcuts but you know what [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► you still build them in because they're [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► vital for professional users so the [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► whole idea of like okay [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► Apple has this ipad pro they put in [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► keyboard shortcuts they put in all of [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► this keyboard stuff to work with the [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► interface without having to touch the [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► screen like that goes against Jony Ive's [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► design principle as stated in this quote [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► here like come on you know this can't [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► really be [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► the only way to interact with the [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► interface give people more tools to work [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► with your systems that's that's all I [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► want [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► just put it back alright and everyone [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► will be happy [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► it's not hurting anyone exactly i have [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► been hearing from people who are in my [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► position as well like this is actually a [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► health issue like i do really think [TS]

01:04:54 ◼   ► Apple like you are hurting people by not [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► keeping the way it is in the pre-beta [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► state like I've been hearing from people [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► with RSI issues have been saying the [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► same thing about like oh my god the [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► pencil makes a huge difference in [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► working on iOS like this is a big deal [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► for me I've heard from people who just [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► have mobility difficulties with their [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► hands like the pencil and being able to [TS]

01:05:14 ◼   ► navigate the interface this is way [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► better and way more comfortable for me [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► than having to use my hands [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► you're all really smart people if part [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► of what you want to do is just make iOS [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► more couple you can find a way to do it [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► yeah put a button share sheet like yeah [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► you can do this if you want to make [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► everywhere markable there are already [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► ways to do that right now like you said [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► taking screenshots and working on them [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► and other editors it's not super elegant [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► but it's possible but like you can find [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► a better way like you have the ability [TS]

01:05:48 ◼   ► you build the operating system you can [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► find a better way than that to make this [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► work yet two seconds worth of thought [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► you can have a button that you press in [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► control center which then toggle the [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► screen to be marketable compile job done [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► and there's so much space in control [TS]

01:06:02 ◼   ► sent only probably right we're not we're [TS]

01:06:04 ◼   ► not sure on real estate there is plenty [TS]

01:06:07 ◼   ► of space you can add it right next to [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► your creepy always watching me I icon [TS]

01:06:11 ◼   ► that you now have in there right like [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► that was watching you [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► so that's why it's additionally [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► frustrating like there are other ways to [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► mark up the screen if that's what you [TS]

01:06:23 ◼   ► want to do and people really want to do [TS]