00:00:00 ◼ ► great I'm ruined why are you running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► like I got upgraded to business class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► haha ah well well well you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► going to expect I'm gonna expect a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► apology because you and many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► people always give me grief about flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► standby but I didn't try to schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► things to get an upgrade to business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► class i'm not saying you flew standby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► but you now have tasted the sweet sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/28">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► vector of business class and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/32">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► imagining you can understand why someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► might make plans around even the mere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► chance of getting business class if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► if it is statistically proven that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► more likely for you to receive business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/49">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► or opera or first because of flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/52">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► oh it is the way I fly it is then i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/55">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► mm so I was in the airport waiting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► board where were you where you flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► from where you flying to from dallas to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► ok that's a pretty long flight so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/69">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► think on the way there is 10 hours on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► something em and I'm sitting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► airport I i like to be very early in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► airports very early like lots of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► yeah that's the only way to be drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/82">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► everybody that I know my life crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► like for example for this flight i made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► sure i was at the airport like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► hours before if that's reasonable i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► that i like to just take my time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► no now it's this is the right way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► it my feeling is like we can wait at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► airport or we can wait at home we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► good I like that Joanna know my theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► for this my thinking what if you catch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► bus or train you can just get the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► one that does not work so well with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► you cannot just get the next one what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► that that is not a thing that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► I'll just wait at the gate until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► next one pulls up know you want sir you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► will give us have a thousand dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► then maybe if you're lucky you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► yeah so I was as getting ready to board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► us sitting at the gate and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► announcement go out and they set up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► bunch of names and they said my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► important message and also gone though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► what they've done like I'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► home today went out to the lady gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► them my passport he had like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/150">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► stone face on she typed in a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► things she gave me tickets like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/153">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► thank you i was like i expected the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► first time this would happen to their to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► be just a little bit more fanfare you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► know like even just a smile maybe she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► just didn't care so by the I cared very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► much because i was very excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/169">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► all of this so business classes amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► i flew with british airways mhm so it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► basically had a bed that I could make up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► ok yeah so this is the thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► business class varies wildly between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► airlines and also just between the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► of planes yeah some business classes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► get screwed and what you really have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/192">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► yeah but some business classes you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► space seat and so it sounds like you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► one of those this was this was an older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► plane so it wasn't super fancy but I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► like a little hard type area there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► like a divider between me and the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► people that were on the other side and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► had a regular chair that had buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► that could basically recline me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► it could go real down flat and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► this foot thing that could bring up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► i was able to sleep on the plane only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/223">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► for a couple of hours because the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► was a bit weird but I got two hours of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► good uninterruptedly sleep sleeping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► my side as I like sleeping on a plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/235">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► yeah now you'll never want to fly again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► unless its business class seats so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► is my thinking right now is I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► flying more and more recently in economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/248">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► plus or premium economy it's called in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► some places I've been flying more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► more like that because it is just far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► significant for not too much more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► for a tall guy like yourself it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► makes a difference yeah you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► extra space the cabins and more empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► people with babies for some reason don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► seem too often by economy plus tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► you can't let metal cutlery in your food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► with like you you basically feel more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► like a civilized human and less like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/281">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► position where I for a lot of the trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► I can't afford it or their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/289">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► expenses so that you know works out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► me but now i'm thinking more about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► for the really long ones could I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/294">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► mmm that feels good because going there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► you're excited to go so it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► so bad i think it may be coming home a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► lot of the flights were like red eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► could I get a few hours sleep will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► improve my life significantly so for San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► Francisco I'm definitely gonna do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/313">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► considering doing that together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► upper-class virginian-pilot upper-class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/324">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► they only have upper records fans as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► dick haha way to own it virgin indian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/331">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► like it feels like you're in a plane in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► that all of their extra words look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► incredible and they bring you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► champagne when you're getting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► plane ice fantastic it's the way to fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► gray and now I'm ruined forever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► I wonder what its gonna be like past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► that come with this sounds like to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► you need to grow relay into a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► bigger company so that you can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► fly upper-class maybe i can set a goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► for that you know I think it's served in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► emirates where you can actually get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/368">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► a room with double bed if you seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► iíve seen that stuff I've seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► stuff the thing with emirates though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► they have these crazy rooms and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► like thirty thousand dollar tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► delegates it's ridiculous luxury but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► I can ever think is it looks so tacky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► because they really like gold accented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► everything but I look at things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► thirty thousand dollars even if i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► despair like I wouldn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► that much tacky gold it just looks gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► I don't like your design aesthetic I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► never really looked into them very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/399">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► because emirates ten not to fly to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/400">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► mm you know they tend to go the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► way a lot more right yeah of course but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► you need relay to earn more money to fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► business class that's and speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► which mile rd listeners can help us fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► business class when we go for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► acceptance speech for our campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► oh right of course of course you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/423">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► t-shirts available we were working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► design this is this is a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► the back story of how this t-shirt came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► to be working on a design and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► showing you the designs i was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► surprised me with a t-shirt design I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► minding my own business and you sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► a design for yourself which I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► liked them and we worked and developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► it and then we had two colors we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/453">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► white and a blue and we only wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► do one color because that we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► be our campaign color and we we weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► sure what to do so you suggested to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► why don't you put it to a Twitter vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► and then I got really carried away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► yeah you seem to run like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► runoffs and mm you know there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► right public deciding for the design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► the great early 2016 shirt and what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► came down to was we doing a blue t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► a couple of different shades of blue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► there is a there is a men's a woman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► and a unisex long sleeve t-shirts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► amend ever men's and women's short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► sleeve any unisex long sleeve which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► we're doing with teespring but we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► something a little bit different this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► time that we've never done before I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► there's a link in the show notes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► you can click and teespring have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► really good to us and they set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/504">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► distribution from the US and the EU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/505">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► though so it should reduce shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► costs for most people outside of the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/511">TS</a>]
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00:16:12 ◼ ► you a geotag picture of my office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/972">TS</a>]
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00:17:10 ◼ ► there's no windows and a fluorescent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► light that is very interrogation room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► like it's just a square room there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► chairs there's two telephones there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► some obscure artwork of a building on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► the wall you have generic corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► artwork it's not relate very well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► no it is not no it's not and there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► cup of coffee sitting on the table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► there's like a cabinet in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► mm I guess have you done anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► make the office feel more homely did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► paint the walls gray or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► this office is set up for theoretically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► two people up to four people which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► find out the horrifying is impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► that isn't impossible you could live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► here let me take me like that the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► where I'm standing to take the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► there is a tiny bit of space behind me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► but what you could do and what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► seen other offices in this building do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► is put four desks all around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► perimeter of the wall right don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► four people in there so that's nice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► can just look directly at the warm right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► or the current setup you can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► directly at the person who's sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► directly opposite you it's we discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► office layouts once before on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► and and this building that I am in its I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► don't know it's like ten stories tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► all of the floors are nothing but open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► office spaces and there's an elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► that I can take up where you happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► be able to see into all of the floors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► and just like I go up all the floors you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► can see like these endless endless open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► offices this one floor happens to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► this section that's carved offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► perspective all it is is the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► but again on a smaller scale where every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► private office that I walk into actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► has two to six people crammed in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► seems like a terribly small space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► like it's still fundamentally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► openoffice as far as i can tell i'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► only person who has a private office in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► this whole place because I rented their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► smallest one which is for two people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► so there are other people that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► these rooms but they have more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah there's there to people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► four people in a room this size all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► working together but so yes Mike I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► spend quite a while making it much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► so she would you like to see what looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► like now yeah I just anticipating know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► liz is your computer on the desk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► oh no the radical changes alright a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► holding stuff around that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► definitely feels like the productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► notice that you're looking for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► ok um face forward picture Mike I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► know what I can if you look at the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► photo and you imagine that all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► office furniture in that photo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► actually a transformer mhm and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► second photo it has taken on is fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► haha i like that that's good because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► you did you just took the furniture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► okay well first of all first of all most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► importantly i took the painting off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► oh yeah where is now needs that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► where it is is it in storage in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► office this place I got rid of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► like I don't I don't need your painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► of a building or your photo of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► building like this is gone there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► now this is this is my attempt like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► whole reason I have this office is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► this is my attempt to make like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► mini amsterdam situation like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► talked about on the podcast before where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► I have a space where I can regularly go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► and one of the key things about the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► that I'm most effectively right is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► pace back and forth and I talk out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► yep right so what i don't need is a desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► to sit at i'm at home right now where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► have a desk to sit at like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► plenty of cafes in London where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► are places to say that I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► another place to sit at so i took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► one desk and I stacked on top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► other desk and then i set it up as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► standing desk so I have my keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► on the first one at standing typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► height with a little bit of a stand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► I have my iPad pro is on the top desk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► that is at eye level for looking at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► I'm writing and so this is now a space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► where I can walk back and forth i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► this setup all in place and I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► any pictures in the room I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► anything in the room I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► spread it out over a period of time so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► didn't seem like too much of a weirdo to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► the people running the office but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► all the phones and like I can you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► out all of this other stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► have been here can you remove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► garbage can like hoping in the garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► can like okay I just wanted everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► out of there except the very few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► that I was going to use and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► I could also see that like having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► floor space for your pacing nature is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► good right so pushing all the furniture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► into one corner basically is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► because you can move around a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► mm it's just some little parts that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► wanna dig into a little bit more so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► ok what is that circular thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► bottom desk yeah that is a speaker okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► that is connected to the ipad via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► bluetooth so that it can play Thunder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► sound noises all the time when I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► thunderstorms taking place in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► when I'm working I recommend the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► Thunder escape to accomplish this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► mm-hmm so you're in a nondescript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► building who with no windows in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► that you're in right on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► no the funder sounds playing I need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► kind of white noise I need to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► white noise whenever working I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► stack I don't know if anybody's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► described you as an evil supervillain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► before but you're really playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► painting that picture from now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► uh-huh i have to do this I need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► some kind of white noise I can't be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► silent room I could just imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► somebody walking by your room something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► mhm and they hear the thunder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► they're like dr. Frankenstein renting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► ok that's interesting very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► why Thunder why don't like rain or whale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► music alright well music oh you gotta be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► no yeah now that's not that's not what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► thunderstorms rain is just good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► just in the background it's easy to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► kind of forget that it's even there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► it's that's why use like I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► some people use waves and things I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► addict it's distracting thunderstorms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► it's not a lot of that ipad I oh yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► there's an ipad which is on the top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► ipad pro that is my ipad pro is it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► ipad pro or an iPad pro it is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► ipad pro that i own this thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► actually where you're trying to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► that just check it now i only own one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► ipad pro and I got a little stand for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► so that it can be mounted vertically on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► the desk there and I just have my couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► writing apps on the main screen so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► a perfect office setup so far anyway I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► mhm you can kind of make out the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► we're not gonna talk about today okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► there's a new ones in there but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► just not gonna talk about it we'll leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► some people will notice the new ones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► there uh-huh yeah I didn't even notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► that when i said to you I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► down resident further but i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► you can kind of see we'll come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► that there is the stuff that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► talk about but I want to build the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► intrigue we gave you sleep on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► calendar who now we're giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► something else to worry about em what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► talked about office spaces and clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► officers who I took a trip to facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah a friend of mine comes over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► from San Francisco works facebook and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► invited me to go visit the London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► offices would hate it all my would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► yeah is it open always it's as open as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► an office space could be well I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► would expect no less from facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► because they had that marine the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► about their new headquarters that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► built which is the largest open floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► space in the world my buddy works there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► he says he gets like 5,000 steps a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► God so I'm so when you tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► London has a big open office space i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► not surprised yes over a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► floors but like I got went in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► enthusiastically playing ping-pong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► mm like really enthusiastically playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► there was no joke who had a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► floors they have snacks everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► we had lunch at the canteen which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► like completely free food and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► like sweets and stuff it was great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► everybody where there was like working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► spaces it was just like rows and rows of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► desks it was interesting to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► everything was really cool and fancy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► it looked lovely but when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► the desks there's just nothing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► really do it always just looks not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► yeah it's always just gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► computer and a flat surface like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► just what you're gonna have yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► it's just it seems funny to me so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► can spend all this money and time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► effort into like creating these great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► spaces but the actual places that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► sit down and work there just rows of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► white desks like there's nothing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► do about it and it was just interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► to me to see it now hopefully when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► visit San Francisco next I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► and take a look at the facebook office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► there and I'm interested to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► that one looks like as well yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► be very curious to see that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► inside as well yeah because i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► imagine it's everything I saw last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► turned up to eleven sure but i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► imagine you driving in an environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► like that I just don't think I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► able to do good work in an environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► like that i mean i would just have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► doing some kind of very different job in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► order to do work i saw a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► in kind of corners and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► like on bean bags and stuff like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► seemed like there were a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► that were like I can't work in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► mmm everyone seems really spread out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► even though there were all these desks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► and most of them are empty people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► yeah there have been let's just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► environment that I have been in where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► have noticed the same phenomenon like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► there are tons of desks there's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► personal items on all of these desks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► as far as i can tell every available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► space that is not a desk is the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► that people are actually using to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► work like if they can get away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► their desk they are going to and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► like well isn't that interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► maybe you company we might want to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► it's like if you if you have other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► spaces for people to work they will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► their infinite rows of white desks with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► computers in front of them just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► just the thing to note companies just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► saying so that the plan the plan Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► with this office is that I'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► writing here and so for the moment what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► I'm doing is I am trying to treat this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► sacrosanct place like I'm taking it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► very seriously the idea that you go here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► you're only going to do one thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► is pacing and writing and when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► not doing that you're going to leave so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► this this feeds back into what we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► talking about on previous episodes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► i am trying to teach my own brain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► train my own brain like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► nothing else happens in this room we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► don't do emails here we don't look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► read it here we don't do anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► which is part of the very reason why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► didn't even want chairs in the room like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► I don't want the option to sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► because if I need to sit down i can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► that plenty of other places so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► what I'm I'm trying to establish this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► and I'm trying to build little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► routines like when I'm walking towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► this office there's a there's a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► landmark that I pass was like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► passed that landmark if I'm listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► music or podcasts or anything like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► has to go off like we have to get ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► as we're approaching this place to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► doing the work and like all the stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► thinks like it sounds kind of crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► I'm just I'm trying to be super strict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► about it in the same way that like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► really aware that in that Amsterdam trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► it was very easy to feel like I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► very serious about this and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► taking away my own decision-making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► ability now whether or not this works is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► a question that i will only have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► answer to six weeks from now so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► have to see in the future like does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► work because if it's just another office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► space then it doesn't make sense for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► to continue to rent it but i am i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► trying to be very very sacrosanct about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► this little writing monastery that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► of at least for the time being so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► have to check in later and see how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► are you just writing no research in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► the short answer is yes the slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► longer answer is that I do let myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► take a look at if I have some stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► say Evernote or do you have some notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► files that i like to access sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► when I'm writing but i am not allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► myself to go out on the internet on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► a fun fact finding mission right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► that can just end up taking forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► it's not the same kind of thing like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► I have to discuss before the bottleneck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► for me is the writing process and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► anything I can do to get more high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► quality writing out in a month is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► and so like that is what will make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► office makes sense and again so far just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► for the first you know four days that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► I've had it when it's super easy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► it's been great like I get up early in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► the morning I walk right out that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► straight to the office and I just start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► writing immediately and it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► is what i need there's nothing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► morning to interrupt like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► nothing to go wrong i'm just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► wake up and walk right to this place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► just try not even to think about it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► so far so good but it is over the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► haul that really that really matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► because what i was going to say is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► don't you just not connect to the Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► at the office on ipad i already had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► receptionist at the front desk where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► like I will sign you up for your far for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► our telephone internet package and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► to explain to them no i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► want your telephone or internet package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► and then that was one of the many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► in which i draw attention to myself when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► I'm really just this is what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► right you don't want connection to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► outside world you move your furniture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► you took down the picture and you place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► under Moses people must think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► like okay evil or crazy but let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► say like the I don't want the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► was just one in a sequence of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► that I was like I really don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► be drawing attention to myself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► literally everything I'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► drawing attention to myself like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► want to move in nice and anonymously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► day one the manager comes in at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► of the day to see how I'm doing and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► takes one look at the place and he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► what are you doing in here like if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► at this point at this point I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► pulled up part of the false floor to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► at some of the wiring because i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► to hide the telephone wires that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► coming like I don't need to see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► wires like I just want to put them back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► under the false floor like I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► beautiful hi it's it's just it wasn't uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► it's like I just want to be anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► please don't walk in here right now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► just I'm just gonna come in and i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► going to leave and I'm going to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► nobody like you never have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► about my office people like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► here doing my own thing playing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► this episode of cortex is also brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► to you by however quite simply hover is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► the best way to buy and manage domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► it's my place of choice and has been for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► years it's the first place I think of to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► go when I have an idea for a new project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► and in fact just yesterday I bought two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► new domain names with hover for projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► that i am thinking about under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► hashtag year of less brackets me I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► not do anything with them for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► long time I might not do anything with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► them ever i don't know we'll have to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► what ends up happening but what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► know is that i came up with two great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► names that I really wanted to grab and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► so the first thing I did was I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► hover check that they were available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► indeed they work which is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► exciting and I got them immediately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► what I like with hover is that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► want to grab that domain name you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► know there might be somebody else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► world at this very moment also trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► get a domain name but if they are using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► one of the other registrar's it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► to take them a long time to do it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► hover you can get that domain in seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► it's just simple it's clean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► straightforward you know what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► with whoever you want a domain name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► they let you get it easy-peasy while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► they have all of the domain names you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► would expect they also have just tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► the little ones and the funny ones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► dot coffee and dot limos and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► weird things that are there the domains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► i registered happened to be one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► smaller domain names so it's nice to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► able to do that just through however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► they have whois privacy for free so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► you can keep your private details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► private there's a hover valet service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► where if you're using an inferior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► registrar you can get everything just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► moved over to hover automatically in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► way that you just don't have to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► about hover will take care of it all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► you and they have a new feature called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► hover connect which makes it easier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► ever to get your domain name connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► with a website so if you have bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► you connect it to some other service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► like you want to make your tumblr blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► use the domain name or whatever you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► just have hover use that automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► for you have everything connected up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► behind the scenes it's great it's simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► so right now go to hover dot-com and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► the code creativity at checkout and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► you'll get ten percent off your purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► at hover and show your support for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► cortex and all of real afm there's tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► of stuff that however has I only talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► about a little bit of it but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► what i always use to register my doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► names so thanks to hover for supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► the show is probably the first time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► has happened in between our two episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► oh yeah I did what happened yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► amsterdam happened yeah partly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► that's actually that's actually no joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► like a i was able to move both videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► forward quite a lot during that period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► of time and it just happened to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► that they were both finishing up around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► the same time and you know me if I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► I just want to release it so they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► finished a week apart so I released the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► that was the video this the second part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► to the America box video right which I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► really liked that video I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► I've seen that video now about four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► five times for various reasons no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► excellent let's get that you count up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► yep might be one of my favorite videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► appeals interesting it's interesting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► say that because i'm not sure i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► that the the section which is the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► end of that video the zebra section like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► zebras vs horses I think that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► the best thing i have written to date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► yeah sure i'm not sure if this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► my favorite video that I've ever made I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► wouldn't say that I still think humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► not applies my favorite thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► have done but that little section about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► like horse herds hierarchy and like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► the zebra stuff like I think that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► came out amazingly and without a doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► embarrassingly my favorite line from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► video which nobody appreciated but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► just loved was at the line about 40 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► there's no such thing as society when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► came up with that in Amsterdam I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► literally did like a little fist pump to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► myself in the hotel room I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► that's gold like I love this that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► I was super excited about that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► nobody commented on that locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► absolutely nobody you know because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► wasn't the goals of the video man could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► everybody loved top chicken and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► loved my for zebras there's no such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► thing as society like to give you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► back and you watch that video you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► hear me really sell there's no such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► thing as society in the reading but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► this is where you just never know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► people reacted that delivery of top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► check-in that's what know we're top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► chicken and it zooms in on the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► phase perfect so that that's why i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► i liked this video is there were lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► little all flourishes in the delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► and the animation that I really enjoy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► spoke about these on the show before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► things that i really like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► visual jokes that tie up with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► that you're saying and there were a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► of those types of things in there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► the way that the llamas were jumping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► of the pan and a lot of the stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► footage that you used really tied up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► very nicely i had right there are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► lots and lots of little parts of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► video that i really enjoyed and the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► I watch this is quite a complex one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► the more the more times i watched it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► more times i understood what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► on and also enjoy it a lot of the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► yeah i have to say that 1 i'm i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► pleased with I probably haven't been as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► pleased with the release since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► netherlands video i did I mean many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► years ago now where the netherlands one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► was the first video I made when I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► like this was just smooth sailing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► start to finish like I had an idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► it came out pretty much exactly the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► it wasn't smooth like that but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► most of the time when i'm releasing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► video I feel like oh thank god like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► is over and it's done and I can just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► it up online and i will probably never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► watch it again because I kind of cringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► the ones like oh no this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► great like I'm pretty happy with the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► it came out like it worked out well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► the end and so its up and I'm it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► I'm up was much more like a happy day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► like oh well Paul releases to the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► and then also people stop yelling at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► for the second part of the America box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► video which I was getting a lot of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► twitter i cannot believe that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► out as quickly as you did you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► with me you never know what's going to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► was expecting at least two more videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► before part 2 like to keep people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► guessing you know I keep them on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► toes and then he released the Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► yep which i know is when you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► yeah really long time that one's been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► the been in the books these two videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► are actually quite similar to me in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► ways because both of them are are not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► reliant on my drawing anything like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► America box part two is largely stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► footage and then the star trek video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► entirely the artwork of Knut who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► worked with on several projects before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► including the Lord of the Rings videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► and the single transferable vote video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► so both of these have a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► different style but I I wanted to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► to today and think like a when did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► really get started on the star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► video and I went back into the slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► that i use for people that I work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► and I got the first concept drawings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► from Knut on october 11 for the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► trek video was the very first time I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► approached him and I asked i want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► something on Star Trek give me a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► I mean what is that now like four months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► ago thats lot long time ago from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► the current day so these things are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► in progress for quite a while so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► this answers one of the questions that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► had which is would you consider doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► more videos in this style because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► it's just superb yeah can do does an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► amazing job without a doubt i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► that's that's why I like working with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► his depiction of you i love i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► the giving that character more life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► it's not an easy task to take something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► that is a stick figure and then say how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► are we going to represent this in a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► fully fleshed-out way while still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► keeping what is recognizable about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► but he totally succeeded I gave him more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► so than that taking something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► iconic in its own way linked into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► people that are familiar with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► like your work the the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► portray your character in the video is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► massive part of it and he really evolved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► that character who are just excellently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► I i think it's fantastic that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► life that he brought to it like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► my favorite parts is when you're crying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► on sofa like in the fetal position and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► it's like that is such a great depiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► yeah I just thought the whole thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► that right there is a great example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► like okay so people wanted to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► white is uses different artwork like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► didn't you do it yourself in your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► stick figures for both the star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► video and for the domestication video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► they they had the same thing in common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► of man if I was going to sit down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► actually try to draw out these videos in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► some way there are many parts where one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► I just simply wouldn't have the artistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► ability to do so and to where both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► these things just require a level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► detail that you could not do in stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► figures right it's it is just simply not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► possible and this is the same reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► I went to commute to do the Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► Rings video because when I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► through that when I thought like oh let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► me do with a video about Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► Rings I want to talk about tents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► elves and Men and hobbits and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► stuff and I realized really quickly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► you know what you can do this with stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► figures man like it just there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► enough that looks visually different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► so once again for the star trek one when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► I was thinking about doing this it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► that it was the same thing all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► I was originally going to have much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► of the crew and talk about specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► examples like that's how it began as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► like I can't draw stick figures that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► obviously the different captain's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► that's just not possible to do in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► usual style so it's like I have to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► on someone to to do this and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► that's what are some of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► concept artwork was I had commute giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► me like various characters like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► would they look what know what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► going to have this look like on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► because there's no way i can adequately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► with stick figures have to Rikers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► just as the as the project went on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► eventually realized like oh I i liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► this artwork so much that can I came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► an agreement where he was going to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► do all of it like we're just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► make this one hundred percent your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► artwork up on the screen and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► came out really well if it did I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► it like that the the actual topic i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► not a star trek guy em but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► understand enough about I've seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► movies who but for me it wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► it just all its design and just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► that everything looked it really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► made it work it really worked in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► different way to to how your videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► normally do it was very different very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► refreshing I think and I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► enjoyed it i wish that they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► more like it but I know how hard it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► to do you know yeah well i mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► this is one of these things because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► eventually came to the conclusion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► like oh I can have someone else do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► of the artwork instead of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► think of mixing this with my regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► style and and his drawings it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► I'll let me just entirely have someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► my initial thought was like oh well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► is going to be a huge time-saver isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► it like that the NFL is like no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► actually here's time-saver there is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► potential for it and and the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► I think that is looking up mining your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► working relationship and how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► developed because we collaborate on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► project and overtime arm we've learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► each of his preferences in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► done like I think that if you willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► put the time and effort into it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► possible that somebody could do the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► I especially if you know the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► your best and the thing to the longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► is the writing you know then you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► focus completely on that and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► somebody else help you out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► artwork so we're thinking about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► like okay the way that I was currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► working was we were going back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► about the art you know he was sending me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► stuff almost all of which was like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► amazing do more other we like have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► back-and-forth about how things should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► be represented and and and the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► this and ultimately in the end what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► got from Knut was about a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► drawings vector drawings for the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► scenes but even then the the additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► thing which takes up a huge amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► time is that he is not the animator i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► still the animator and so even though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► have these drawings because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► vectors each drawing can be broken down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► into the various elements and then I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► animating the various elements so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► anytime something moves on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► anytime something fades into fades out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► or has a wobbly effect or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► i am doing all of that and so what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► have sent you that you can see it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► be in the show notes for the listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► is what the video looks like on my end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► to animate when i'm working within Final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► Cut Pro and so while I start with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► hundred drawings in the end there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► probably somewhere between you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► maybe 200 to 400 animation elements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► where I'm saying okay this transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► happens now this special effect comes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► screen this image transitions into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► other image this guy moves from point X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► to point B hears a sound effect that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► going to play underneath what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► the screen so even though all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► artwork was done I was shocked by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► much animation work there was still to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► even after this point so if if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► we outsource all of this is like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► need an additional person to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► animation person like it's it can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► be the artwork because it's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► surprising you think like boy a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► images it sounds like a lot but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► just have the images on the screen over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► the course of four minutes like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► actually nearly enough action that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► that's taking place like you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► hence all of all of the motion or all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► the transitions are all of the effects a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► little later on in a moment we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► to be talking about creativity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► focuses on pixel which is a movie studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► and animation studio it's like you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► need to and it's not impossible to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► this have like a mini version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► right so like you would come up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► storyboards and then have an animate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► have like an artist and animator put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► yeah well well there is a world in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► that could be the same person as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► yeah there is a world in which that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► could be the the same person it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► thing is always difficult to find people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► talented in one area let alone two areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► show so I trying to find someone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► an amazing illustrator and who also is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► great at doing animation work in Final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► Cut Pro like that's a whole different as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► a whole different thing which is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► just like I'm i would say i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► looking for someone who is good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► animating which is a different skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► yeah but of course I I am never under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► the illusion that like I am somehow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► replicable work like most of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► i know are working with teams like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► it's interesting and weird that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► that there are I know very few YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► people who don't have teams around them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► at this point like I am I am one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► the very few people i know who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► genuinely a 1-1 person youtube operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► yeah who doesn't have employees like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► permanent full-time employees so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► an interesting position but it's just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► with many of these things like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► this much artwork done before i had i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► had falsely assume like oh this is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► be super easy to put together and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► you know if it's still it is still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► easy and so like if you wanted to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► outsource it like you need one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► person to to help with this I would bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► the it still took up less of your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► in the aggregate but it may be didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► the question is did it take less time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► than it takes me to animate an average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► video the answer to that is no like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► took the same number of days plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► back-and-forth with canoed spread out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► over a couple of months like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► there's no way that it took me less time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► but but the real question is if i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► have the artwork done and I attempted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► that would have taken me months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► months of work so there is a way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► which this saved me a huge amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► time in the in the same way that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► getting all the stock video for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► domestication video like if I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► animate that that would have been months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► and months of work instead of four days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► of animating so like I there's a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► sure but not like actual number of hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► out of my working schedule like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► slightly different question you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► love your work but it doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► couldn't have done this now of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► not you don't have no skill whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► like you couldn't even closer now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► wouldn't be able to do it and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► one week 1.4 million views yeah pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► good maybe it was worth it i think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► that i have to have the right topic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► I i don't think i don't think that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► could just generally say like I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► going to do videos with all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► artwork like if I'm ever doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► that has anything to do with countries i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► always want to use the country girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► that I have like I just I love the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► I think that's a real signature style at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► going to want to do anything that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► do with countries using those particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► stick figures come but i can but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► you can see the commonality between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► star trek video and the Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► Rings video is is both of them it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► there's more detail than can possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► represented with stick figures and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► i come to that situation again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► there's a topic that I'm working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► where that feels like if the case i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► definitely definitely think about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► it again sir i miss any I haven't got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► name for him but I'll miss that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► cgpgrey maybe he'll come back someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► sir i would like to also thank a glue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► for helping support this week's episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► igloo make the internet you'll actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► like what does that mean well it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► that you have the tools to create an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► internet that looks and works the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► you want it looks and works the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► you're used to with the way that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► used to using the internet rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► looking at something which looks like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► was built in the nineties by somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► who obviously couldn't see into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► future and had no idea how we'd be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► our computers like for example now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► able to do work wherever we want with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► our phones and tablets and laptops equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► it has responsive design so it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► work everywhere you can do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► you can manage your task list from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► iphone you can manage your projects and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► speak to your colleagues from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► android tablet it doesn't matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► device you're using if it can connect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► the internet you can use igloo talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► about design you're able to customize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► give it the look and theme and colors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► your company so it feels right at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► in your organization also able to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► functionality for different members of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► your teams so you can give them just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► tools that they need you can share files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► of your co-workers for you all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► collaborate on you can track who's read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► documents of read receipts this is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► useful for making sure that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► has seen an important document that must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► go around the company you can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► integrate with services that box Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► Drive and Dropbox so people have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► to all of their files wherever they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► it was secured of 256 bit encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► single sign-on and has active directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► integration as well so it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► organization the best thing about a glue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► you can try it for free with any team up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► to 10 people for as long as you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► so you can make sure that is right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► your team in your organization time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► break away from an internet you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► english software.com / cortex thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► so much to eat glue for their continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► support of this show and all of real FM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► alright so the second cortex business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► yes you pick this book this time this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► a book that I've wanted to read for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► time but never got around to it but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► when it came to be my turn to pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► book after the tragedy of the e-myth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► revisited i decided to go for a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► that i really enjoyed the thought of I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► a big pics off an lu so I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► intrigued to to read this so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► listen to the audiobook unabridged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► audiobook it was much longer then met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► like twice the size i think but I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► through it all in like a week and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► it's like 12 hours and audio book form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► looking through my notes I originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► according to all of my kindle highlights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► back when I was still reading books on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► kindle with their appalling topography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► and so I hadn't read it since then and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► also I relisten to probably about eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► percent of the book this week on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► audiobook and then I sort of skimmed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► last few chapters as well so i reread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► recently although you may have some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► detail towards the end then i do and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► also have all of my notes from last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► it's a funny experience to read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► like this because I'm listening to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► audiobook and i think i read it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► first time right but I'm listening to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► audiobook now I'll hear the office say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► something like oh that's an excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► point so i opened up my kindle app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► highlight that section and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3478">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► all right two years ago me thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► same thing and highlighted exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► past the child going to highlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► it's a funny experience like a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► me and passed me agreeing on what is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► interesting point but also clever me yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► importance of this passage so small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► yes but so tell me Mike you as this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► is your first experience with creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► what did you think of the book it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► completely what I expected then and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► different to other books that I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► like this because it was a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► biographical em at kenmore tells his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► story and through telling his story hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► upon some other things that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► important in helping him build and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► manage and run Pixar and now Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► Animation em so it was unexpected but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► think I enjoyed it more because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► I like biographies of people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► interesting for people that I respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► and while side of only known a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► bit about it kept more from from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► books mainly apple books because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► obviously a big crossover right right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► respect the company so much that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► biography of him and pixar together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► yeah without a doubt yeah there's a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► of of early pixar stuff in this and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► like where where there's end cap will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► come from how did he end up to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► this situation and also there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► steve jobs related stuff in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► especially the afterward that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► section is basically ad cap more telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► his story of Steve and why the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► that have been out and circulated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► about our the full picture of the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► whose fascinating parts got nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► do with the creativity part which is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► it's right at the end it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► place to put it but I could tell like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► from him like I need to tell this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► I'm saying yeah it was it was a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► total non sequitur to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► book but like this is the most logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► place to put this this section about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► what is what is his impression of steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► jobs so in a similar way to how we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► through the last one I'll kind of go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► through my notes that kind of follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► the book chronologically even one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► favorite things and time back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► biographical part is that this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► about a man who had a dream who achieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► mhm right the idea of wanting to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► computer animated movie when he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► out it was impossible that you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► do it but he wanted to do it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► did it and I love those kind of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► because i think that there is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► nice in knowing that people achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► their dreams if with the right amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► work and effort i think that is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► story I think it's possible you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► think that mean you've both done that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► certain degrees i expect quite a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► people listen to the show how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► that have creative work at usually tends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► to be part of a dream or a long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► goal and I also as you know probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► quite a lot of people listen to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► that have one they're trying to achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► so I think it's always good to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► these stories of people that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► something that they want to do and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► so this is a good one for that as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► as a lot of the lessons that that tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► to teach ya i can agree with that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► this is this is a time to just interject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► in a sense a lot of people after our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► last book club episode wanted to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► like why the hell i would read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► like that like the e-myth revisited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► why would read these business books even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► though people often hear that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► have always great things to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► them but I i think this falls into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► category of like when you are reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► you are shaping your own mind and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► are shaping like the kind of person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► you can possibly be and this falls into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► the category of like if you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► something different it is useful to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► differently or wet like whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► the particulars of their situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► exactly matters for your situation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► it's it's a case of like showing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► brain like oh ok here's the story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► this person and how he went to achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► an unusual thing and like here here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► the way he did this and look brain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► this is the thing to think about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► I'm going to keep exposing you to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► idea over and over again like people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► achieve things and they can they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► reach their goals and like here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► here's how this person has done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► here's how maybe that person has done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► and you brain like pick from that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► you think is useful but just be aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► that like it's on it's almost like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► want to create for your own single brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► like a culture of success right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► think things can happen well brain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► just be aware of that and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► think these things are useful to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► and why I've been reading them for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► know many years at this stage camel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► himself is also pretty critical of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► business books which I like and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► multiple points in the the the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► talks about why a lot of these types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► books a pointless right i really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► just addresses it and he's like look a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► lot of these things don't really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► people they're full of empty lessons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► like even at the end he kind of distills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► a lot of things that he believes in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► simple sentences and he's like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► statements that are true they are what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► think of as talking points and places to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► go from so let's look at all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► lessons these takeaways they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► caught in other types of books has food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► for thought rather than just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► lessons i'm trying to teach you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► quite like that approach i agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► that perhaps one of the values of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► is not so much him telling you here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► the way to do it as opposed to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► describing lots of the other people he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► works with and how they think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► x and it's it's a bit of a like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► are reading it he just like throwing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► whole bunch of stuff at your brain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► maybe some of it will stick and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► it won't but you know he talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► like oh here's how is how Brad Bird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► things about making a movie like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► not how I think about making a movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► think brad bird is wrong but he made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► incredibles right so like you take from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► that what you want and then it goes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► bunch of the other directors and talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► about like here's how this person thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► about it here's how that person thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► about it and you know it's like some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► them think about like they're on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► archaeological expedition and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► uncovering things and others imagine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► as though they are building a structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► brick by brick and he's just he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► going through how other creative people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► he works with think about their own work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► and like maybe some of that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► resonate with you and maybe some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► prescriptive it's he doesn't have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► one-two-three punch for here's here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► exactly what you need to do that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► kind of recorded in that vein few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► things that spoke to me of what he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► instituted pics rm1 of the clear themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► that runs through this book is the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► of giving creative people autonomy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► create who like provide them with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► don't try and box them in and let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► see what they can do and that's such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► interesting thing to me a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► I'm going to be basing my thoughts on is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► the companies that I've worked in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► how different they are to the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► capital describes how he builds his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► company and the idea of kind of like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► a lot of this they could give people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► challenges see how they do with them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► know he talks about hiring good teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and giving them good work and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► get great stuff rather than hiring like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► mediocre people and giving them it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► thinks the work on you like you just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► going to get the results out of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► and this is the lot of give people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► autonomy that they need to allow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► so I guess is right this is where I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► to ask you as the company man of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► this strikes you as different from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► places that you're familiar with oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► yeah okay is it because like this is up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► my reading of the book i was much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► charitable toward than the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► read it again and this was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► the the places where I kept thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► like ya da like but it's not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► he had like it's hard to find creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► people and when you find good creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► people let them do what they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► it like like there were plenty of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► when working with Knut whereas like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► don't have specific instructions for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► but like you just keep going like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► whole reason i'm working with you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► because you are talented like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► that's why we're here together right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► like I trust you to do stuff so go like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► and so the other like when i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► this I was feeling a bit like yeah of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► course a camera like what else would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► be but it sounds like you know what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► marketing right for the company that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► worked for so I had a semi kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► creative role that we would help come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► with the marketing campaigns along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► external agencies that we hired that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► that totally counts as creative ya get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► any role in marketing counts as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► creative field sure but I get very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► different what we want coming up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► the campaign's we weren't like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► internal agency or anything like them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► would have agencies that will help us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► so you wouldn't like two levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► creativity here and there was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► where as i was leaving my company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► another team somewhere had decided to 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► images that could be used in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► marketing campaigns for the next six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► yeah and they said it may expand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► this is like the set that you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► right now and you are asking two levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► of creative people to work within this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► constraint that sounds pretty terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► yeah and I know people that work in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► advertising agencies and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► relatively similar thing that maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► a so it might be the like the me and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► know that i did this into our agencies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► was like i gave them very prescriptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► of guidelines of what i was looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► with some campaigns so even i would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► a restriction on those great people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► mainly because I was being restricted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► some way right its restrictions all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► way down exactly and so this is what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► you know there are places where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► will not be the case but i know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► the case in a lot of areas it is for big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► company it is very rare for them to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► do that you see it when he goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► yeah talks about how people that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► never made movies gave mandatory notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► and changes to the movies that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► would see the other executives yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► is terrible it is true you know so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► like it that shocked them one thing went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► in there of course it did because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► thinks in a way which is not more there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► were many times in this book where I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► to check myself because I Here Come will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► there's no way they do that see that see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► that's very interesting it that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► interesting to hear you say that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► feel like I almost have to defer to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► your opinion here looks like I need your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► opinion to supplant mine on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► right because there were so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► where i was reading this and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► because of my experience in the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► years and the people that I work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► and like how I know other people run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► their team's I feel like isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► obvious that if you have someone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► a creative person like you you let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► run with stuff like who doesn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► like what like oh wow I've got more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► telling me the sky is blue but but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► that seems like i am in the wrong year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► and that i have a perspective which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► like a tiny tiny minority of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► working in creative fields out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► corporate world that this that PU you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► are coming from the decide where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► think this is so unusual that you assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► that the author must be lying because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► one would run their business that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► and I'm like duh man that anything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► view of mine which is obviously not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► same for everyone but I just know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► went through this and I know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► people that did like I worked with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► people who worked for other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► and it was the same and the i think part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► of the problem is there's always someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► that's part of the problem right so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► like you're being told by someone this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► is how the campaign goes you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► like I would consider myself as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► creative and I would show the work to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► product manager and then they would try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► and make changes to it and i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► to say that and no this is not what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► do i was very difficult to work with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► that but that's that's why you're here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► right now my boss really liked it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► and it was always something that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► brought to me to be like you stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► for yourself in a way that nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► just because I'm very minutes knows i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► just very principled if I believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► something it can be quite difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► change my mind on it my mind can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► changed but if I truly believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► something I will fight for and not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► of people that were in my scenario did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► that is because I believed that what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► was doing was creative work like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► believe that that it shouldn't have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► been prescriptive one of the reasons i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► constrictions that were being put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► people you know I why mention about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► the very limited images that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► used right was like no I can't I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► this is lucas but also like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► interesting to hear about freedom that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► they have a Pixar and it seems like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► in the animation world that is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► given that you get that I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► looking through my notes I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► a section i highlighted here which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► think summarizes a lot of his his points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► but he's talking about like changes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► we made within Pixar and and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► department's charter would be not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► develop scripts but to hire good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► to figure out what they needed to sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► into projects and make sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► I says we keep adjusting and fiddling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► with this model but the underlying gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► today remains the same find develop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► support good people and they in turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► will find develop and own good ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► this actually goes right back to what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► were just talking about if you bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► in people like canoe like he is talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► that and give them the work to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► yeah but it's also like it's again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► this to me is where I feel like my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► opinion of the book is maybe not super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► relevant here but in my own field it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► seems like the kids because this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► highlighted section that i have here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► comes after a long discussion about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► matters like it's a good people there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► description where he talked about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► bringing this up in meetings and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► are really split and that's the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► where I felt like oh come on and cattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► like people can't really be split over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► that like it's obvious that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► matter more than the ideas like know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► you know one agrees yeah but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► is like I I do recognize that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► some kind of bias on this but and and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► I think about it I realized like perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► the kind of compliment that I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► most on videos is when I see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► leave comments where they'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► something like I would have expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► that this topic is really boring or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► thought that this would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► uninteresting but I like I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► the video on this thing and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► maybe that's that's partly why I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► this clear feeling of like it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► topic that matters like I know lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► people who make videos on topics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► you would think are boring but the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► they make it is the thing that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► interesting so it seems really obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► to me like of course people matter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► then again if I think about it more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► realize like all day long people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► pitch me on good ideas for videos to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► and it feels like i know but is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► idea that matters like if the execution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► that matters so I wonder if this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► made a real big impact on you the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► time you read it because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► basically said that to me at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► like my kind of thinking about talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► people came from a conversation you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► maybe about six or so months ago we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► talking about this about the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► difficult that can be and how useful it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► is the only said like the book made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► bigger impact on you the first time than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► it did this time I wonder if like part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► of this stuff has been embedded into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► and now you think it's obvious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► you already read it well I'll tell you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► mean here's the thing here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► for the listeners which is the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► version of my thesis here that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► let's say i have discussed with many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► people in many different circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► is that I i am always trying to beat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► drum of talent is rarer than people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► think it is and that i often i often run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► up against people have some expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► everywhere waiting to be found and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► don't i do not think that is the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► but that is a nose small part like I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► totally aware that that idea was first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► introduced into my brain through my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► ah like some kids you know what ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► little Tommy's never going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► astronaut or Tommy this is a battle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► originally came out of my teaching days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► of much against my own beliefs going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► into things like I was forced to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► the conclusion that like you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► I like it's just this is not the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► things are going to work and that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► been since extended into like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► entertainment field as we have discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► on previous podcast is a bit of a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► special case and it's like even thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► like reading about the early pixar stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► is very interesting but I was also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► so aware of like yeah but you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► totally lucked out with your first three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► directors like Pixar had great people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► working on those first three movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► if they didn't have unusually successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► people working on those first few movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► we wouldn't be talking about picsart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► yeah okay so yeah they did but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► want traditional movie directors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► they were developed by pixar discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► by pixar given a chance by I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► well it's interesting because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► one part in the book where and camel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► addresses this exact thing where their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► we're not traditional directors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► people that said was working with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► that when they started bringing on more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► directors like he ran into this same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► thing of like I'm sure we can just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► turn people into directors a little part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► of me is like actually you can we try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► add it was when he talks about the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► part of like trying to set up a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► part of pics alright let that's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► on what movie were they working on toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► story 2 i think it was i don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► what it was but but there's a few parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► where and just like you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► read between the lines a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► because and camel is is you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► he's very nice talking about everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► but you definitely get the feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► like after their first three directors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► they spent a little while I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► floundering trying to bring the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► people on it and notice the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► he doesn't name someone when he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► give a name is about to slam them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► doesn't he doesn't slam them but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► it's just like how interesting you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► on mentioned brave director like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► just like who are you know there's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► points like that and and so I guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► I'm just what I'm just saying here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► like Pixar is also in an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► situation where by definition they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► to be really lucky at the start I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► that then that is almost true of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► entertainment venture like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► be lucky at the start and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► like the interesting fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► question of creativity inc like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► like the thesis of the book is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► clearly like can pixar survive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► replacement of its founding members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► right like those original people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► can they engineer a system that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► outlast them i think i think that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► heart of the book you know I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► an open question about whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► they have like reading through it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► second time I've I felt very much almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► like less convinced that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► accomplished that then the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► reading through the book like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► they've given it the best of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► possible shots but they also still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► a complete turnover of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► people working there and i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► looking through some of their upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► projects and it's like oh interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► you're bringing back Brad Bird to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► on Incredibles 2 in future and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► like we won't know the answer to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► question of will pixar outlast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► original team or will it like Disney did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► go through like a half-century of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► wandering in the wilderness after their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► initial founder was was lost one of fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► things right now is that Disney is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► producing better movies and pics are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► some places i think that is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► interesting context of reading this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► two years later than when I first read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► yeah what was something that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► annoys me in the book as they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► talking about failure like we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► have a fairly we need to have a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► but they don't address that like cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► to yeah that is a failure but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► cars 2 is the huge elephant in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► of this book right there is because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► movie was out and had flopped i did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► search of the text of like did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► mention it anywhere it like nope there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► he doesn't know reference to cars to ms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► it's really interesting because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► throughout the whole book they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► talking about like we haven't had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► failure what will happen when we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► failure like people was scared because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► responsible for the first failure and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► really wanted to hear the story of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► it just doesn't get addressed yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► remember the first time i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► the book I felt like this has to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► mhm and that's it that to me is like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► of that one of the little pieces of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► I feel like they're like your you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► this big section where you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► about candor and making sure everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► is really open about what happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► there's there's no shame in anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► yes worrying about failures and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► you've gotta tie this together with cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► to like but he never does right it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► never got feel that is like the direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► yeah he doesn't want to throw the cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► yeah and and the the other thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► is I i think this is more this is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► it's ok so here here's here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► running list for the movies so I made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► note of it in the beginning so this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► came out after pixar had made 14 movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► so here we go right it's 1995 is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► they start so it's toy story a bug's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► life toy story 2 monsters inc finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► nemo the incredibles then you have cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► at number seven in 2006 which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► maybe a little shaky maybe not I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► know then you have read a tui Wally then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► it's up in 2009 toys story three cars 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► years before this book brave one year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► before this book and monsters university [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► is the last movie that comes out before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► the book is published i gotta say like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► think the second half of that list is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► weaker than the first half of that list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► monsters university i really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► one I have to say I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► monsters University precisely to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► this we're gonna tie it back before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► because the fundamental message of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► monsters university is you can't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► be what you want to be like sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► Michael kowski you were born not scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► but you gotta figure something else out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► no amount of studying is going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► you scary Mike you know it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► have the Dean is portrayed as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► villain but she's not wrong like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► not scary and I have to say like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► that is quite a bold stance for a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► storyline of like now you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► to achieve your dream yes I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► good message because it's like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► you but there is something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► could be really good at you just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► yeah like I went through my own version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► of this when I was younger was like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► it to be a fiction writer like I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► to write novels and I spent a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► time trying to write novels and at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► point I had to just grow up and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► you know what man you write some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► good fiction like you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► I don't even want to know how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► thousands of words like I attempted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► put out but it's like but it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► important moment right to recognize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► like you're just you could spend from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► now until the end of your life trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► write a novel and you will never succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► so like recognize it and move on so I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► like I i like that monsters university I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► think it's a rare movie that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► goes against that goes against the grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► but it is but so the question about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► Pixar as an entity that can survive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► the indefinite future producing great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► movies now that the thing that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► to mention is even though i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► second half of that list is weaker than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► nonetheless like the average batting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► his Pixar is great like that like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► mediocre Pixar movie is better than most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► movies that are made and the hottest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► animation just get flat yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► flat-out just flat-out movies but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► it's just like I'm i was really i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► felt a lot less convinced by EDD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► capitals own story about pics are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► two years on then I was the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► read it and and partly that's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► it's like okay I haven't seen it yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► they put out the good dinosaur which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► didn't really get great reviews and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► looking at their future movies it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► okay for the next five movies you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► planned four of them are sequels I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► part of this though is that there has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► been a problem with some of the secrets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► because like he talks about like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► one of them is equal to new properties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► right they haven't put out a sequel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► awhile but they've had a bunch of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► ones so I feel like there's been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► production bottlenecks with the sequel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► yeah maybe because they had like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► brave inside out the good dinosaur right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► new yeah and then it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► cars three coco which is there is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► cause three cars three they're making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► three of three fingers with cars though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► it is a monster much and dice ella ella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► i'm sure it is and that but that's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► where and it's the same thing with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► monster that monsters inc like I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► it's a that's a pretty good merchandise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► one as well and actually like when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► talking about we don't think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► merchandise is like okay but like Here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► am this does yeah like sitting here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► 2016 and knowing that you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► produce cars 3 and it's like I mean his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► here's the thing i want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► really clear like there's nothing wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► with a movie studio making money off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► merchandising like i don't i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► a problem with that but it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► thing when i'm reading a book about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► different and how I think quite rightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► what one of the things that makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► different is not putting an emphasis on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► this stuff but now knowing that it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► like we're in the place with cars 3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► toy story 4 that the merchandise in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► I don't think toy story is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► example because there hasn't been a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► one and i will take a number one toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► story 3 is arguably the best toy story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► movie you know like Ida I get it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► cause I just think the Toy Story one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► just like everybody just wants more toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► yeah i mean and now this is this is of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► course always a problem with movies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► you start getting into like the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► the realm of subjectivity yeah I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► 25 right there getting that we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► we'll it'll be there eventually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► jaws but so i guess like just bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► bringing it back i think the book is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► interesting but I'm not sold on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► second reading that they have actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► solve the problem that they have aim to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► solve yet one of the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► struggle with in this book is the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► so basically we mentioned it already but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► if you know if you haven't read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► one of the tenants that they believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► is is people being honest to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► and being able to be honest about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► ramification know this is in feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► you know and they they enable that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► they continue to enable that we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► anybody can talk to anyone you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► have to go for a change of command and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► they call it candor because truth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► honesty and they're too harsh words I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► just can't get on board with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► being completely honest to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► and create work i do i just can't get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► board of that I'd I just can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► people being completely honest it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5335">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► doesn't stitch doesnt sit with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► there might be a an idea in pixar of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► people being more honest and then dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► but i can't imagine someone saying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► somebody that they really don't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► piece of work and the majority of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► that work at Pixar being able to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► that what is brush it off and move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► it can't work everywhere just conks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► people humans and the f emotions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► it would say that's where I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► some of the best stuff in the book is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► his harping repeatedly on the idea then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► creative work you should not associate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► yourself with the creative work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► maybe like if you live in pixar you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► do this but i don't think that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► an easy thing to do to have people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► maybe you know they they talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► work on it so much inside of pixar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► it works but I just struggle to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► this is where I think he is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► convince the reader of an idea that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► yeah i'll definitely and so we get in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► my experience in all of my working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► experience with other people people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► impossible to separate from their ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► like someone comes up with a dumb idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► curriculum next quarter and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► attack that idea they take it as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► christ-like can we talk about the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► like we're not talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► I get that is a a far too prevalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► natural human reaction but i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► like that's what I really like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► book is him just repeatedly hammering on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► this and this might be my bias of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► believing it can't be true but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► like because it does it really I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► anybody that works we have creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► people can see how far-fetched are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► difficult an idea this seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5455">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► yeah but you can't produce really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► stuff if you are associating yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► with the idea and you know again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► with people i know like everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► kind of an agreement that you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► the negative feedback is the feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► like if you if you are making stuff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► the internet and you're making stuff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► attention to negative feedback in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► production process I get super super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► valuable no matter how much it hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► yet no matter how much it hurts because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► it's gonna hurt more when everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► laughs at you right here like all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► like it's just that is just the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► I just think as my friend derek has said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► like the value of positive feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► trends towards zero and so when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► when you're talking about someone's work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► it's like okay you open with like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► yeah I like this I like this right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► very quickly you get three positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► comments in and it's like okay but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► these positive comments are worthless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► and like let's get down to brass tacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► yeah because like that that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► really want to know like we had a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► little polite opening but now let's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► let's really get to business and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► think a lot of the stuff that he talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► about in pixar with this idea of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► to set up what he calls this brain trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► where people are reviewing the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► trying to evaluate it as a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► separate from the person who has created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► it and talk about what is the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► with this movie not like what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► problem with your movie i think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► valuable valuable stuff for anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► on a team and creative work I I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► have definitely recommended creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► ink to a lot of people and seems to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► interesting feedback from people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► like oh yes this is quite valuable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► think about like really try hard to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► it explicit in feedback sessions that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► are discussing the thing we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► discussing the the people and like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► is that is the most important thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► you can do but I still just like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► little asterisk in my brain about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► is it still just falls back about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► the most important thing that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► you have good people on that brain trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► like there's there's no he talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► systems and all the rest of it i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► thats that's useful but like ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► you need some really good people on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► brain trust like that is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► makes it work and that's that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► wonder about like Pixar trying to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► systems for the future is like okay yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► but what happens when those original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► teams are are no longer there like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► brings about the words of the brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► trust those so the brain trust is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► group inside of pixar of that ranges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► across the company of people that seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► to have a real good grasp on developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► mhm and these people get together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► they review the work that's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► produced and help unstick a movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► while they may be helped develop a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► that isn't working or can those you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► that that really are working they offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► candid feedback to each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► there's this as he says sometimes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► braintrust doesn't necessarily fix a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► problem but it might highlight something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► hmm this is the best thing for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► take away from the book and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► remember where i first heard this but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► in the internet circles that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► running in the past there has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► been a phrase of your board of directors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► which I've always really latched onto is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► like a group of people that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► are important to you and that you value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► their opinions that you trust and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► mm so I've always had a foreign land at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► the people who i will send work to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► feedback but what I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► about is how could real laugh and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► more like pigs are aiming high like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► no but like from a structure perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► so who I've been trying to like to still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► what they are and to still what we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► and seeing how there are similarities in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► that it's like a production company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► helps produce and grow different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► properties like that's why I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► like take it right down to the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► basics and then try to think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► from there so like I thinking if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► don't really do so much let's say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► wanted to create a new show we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► really go very deep into like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► has an idea and then we like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► developer like there is an element of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► by me like months of water can like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► month you know pilots and then we scrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► the idea and we start over like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► like real intense work doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► I don't know anybody that does what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► that really looks at it in that way so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► wonder like what the value is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► like that would be and having a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► people that would work on a new project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► together like that and not even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► they're necessarily involved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► production but involved in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► judging and development of it i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► think like how interesting that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► that's one of the things that is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► rattling around in my brain a lot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► like this brain trust idea helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► develop and produce a show what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► could look like and I think it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► quite an ambitious project to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► like a like a brain trust for podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► are yakking yeah interesting idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► either is like it's just something has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► been rattling around in my brain is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► a how could we try and think more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► that because you know it's it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► different but when really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► stripped back to its essentials not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5815">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► differently to my old company the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► respectful of time not living in fear an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► actual desire to teach people not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► tick boxes those things are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► complete opposite of the environment i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► worked in and you know environments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► who and I'm sure that pixar isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► perfect but it really feels like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► try their best to create a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► tries to his best of people who I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► definitely comes through that if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► the case in the book like that they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► to create an environment where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► can try to achieve their best i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► that i think that is that is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► obvious from the way the book is written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► that that is that is what their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► goal is like like I I like the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► where they talk about the pixar shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► that they put together as an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► like somebody has an idea like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► just let's just let them go with it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► some just go ahead and produce a short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► and how they very consciously don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► think of those shorts as commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► endeavours they tried to didn't a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► they're tried to think all this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► a way to help develop our technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► then realized very quickly that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► don't do that they don't help at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► that just cost you money and don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► anything right they just they just cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► money and time and people and yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► spreadsheet which justifies those shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► but that they have some some ambiguous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► difficult to pin down feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► allowing people to work on those short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► creative projects is worthwhile and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► they do it even though there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► business justification for whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► I think like that is a that is precisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► the kind of thing that I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► great sign from a company and wood wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► for me be in the future like a huge red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► flag of pixar ever stop doing shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► like mm okay yeah that's a that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► fat slow fish in a barrel to shoot if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► you are a bean-counter yeah like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► the obvious thing to shoot and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► like its absence would be quite notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► if they ever if they ever stop doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► it's like he says at one point kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► the idea that you can measure things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► be okay with the fact that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► yeah yeah and this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► things yes without a doubt that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► that is definitely that was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► the case my favorite part of the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► the part I think it's like part 4 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► is the disney-pixar merger and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► what it does is throughout the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► book they're talking about the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► that they do and the things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5998">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► believe in and how they think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► things that they do can help build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► great company and then this was the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► study moving out more and last i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► go into disney and make disney work more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► like Pixar blue and see if it helped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► yeah yeah but there i think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► pretty easy to say that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► excellent out proof rhesus right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► also has the like the interesting mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► of almost like a reverse merger in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► same way that apple bought next and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► like yeah what did you like favoring mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► took over apple exactly i mean and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► was responsible because those yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► exists it's like steve jobs like oh hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► Steve Jobs showing up again like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► exact same maneuver role and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► definitely a feeling like did disney by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► pixar I legally yes but it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► feels like Disney has been very pics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► yes why it's a merger and acquisition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► yeah you know they bet the the smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► companies leaders came in and run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► interesting it's interesting to see it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► interesting to see but it also does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► like gives us this funny feeling of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► his Pixar as ahead as they used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► like maybe not but it's also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► entirely their fault someplace with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► Disney like I just need seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► making much better stuff than they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► you know getting out of the wilderness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► finally with their ownership of pixar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► i gotta say i think i've really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► entertainment perspective I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► very very interesting just to hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► story but there were things in it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► really i have pulled out like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► of the brain trust and thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► what that looks like for me and the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► of thinking about people with talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► thinking about giving people the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► to do work like there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► things in this book that really i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► i'm going to put a lot more fall into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► I'm and there are still things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► email but I think about that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► genuinely and there are still things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► that we need to do want to do for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► business that would spoke about in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► book there is benefit in these books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► I hope that we're able to distill these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► down for people if they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► take the time to listen to these to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► book I have to say one of the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► things from either from this is Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► has now joined the very small group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► companies that i would take a job i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► don't think i would there's a job for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► at Pixar but listening to their culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► and the way that they work like I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► I could work in that could work in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► culture that's high praise indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► what are the other companies on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► list cards against humanity ok and field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► ok alright that seems that seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► Mike list of places that places that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► yeah like I think people like Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► don't know if I could do it now why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► would want to work at Apple don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► if I could do it i don't know if i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► want to be as quiet as they would tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► to be too much pressure major secrecy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► like I'm very I'm very grateful for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► people who do work at Apple but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► like that's a the the tough path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► perhaps in in life that I i would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► take a job at Pixar i would i would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► voice work for Pixar no but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► never ever take a job at Pixar I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► think that would that would be what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► would do like I'm pretty happy with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► frustrating in some ways but incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► being in other ways business there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► couple of final point just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► through looking through my notes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► some of which were double highlighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► from me from two years ago with me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► now one of the things which is a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► often reiterated and creative work but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► think is always always useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► emphasize is a capital talks about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► baby like the ugly baby and how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► early drafts of all creative work are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► horrifying I like they're not they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► not good to look at that they take a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► of they take a lot of work to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► and perhaps one of the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► like the best in the book was him going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► through what some of the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► looked like before they became the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► yeah and I think up was a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► of that where he goes throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► Gospels are like the you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► that the first the first version was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► about like a magical ostrich and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► like what I'm like okay but but they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► through like here were the three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► iterations of up before we settled on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► what the eventual story would be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► interesting for ya monsters inc was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► essentially like like the delusions of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► paranoid schizophrenic like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► that was that was draft one of monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► inside-out came from the original draft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► yeah you could maybe you could maybe see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► like a marriage between those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► but i canna monsters die it's like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► like this guy can see monsters and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► are like his feelings and his emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► and his problems following him around as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► monsters and then the idea the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► the movie is he feels better his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► gets better and the monsters go away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► a sec I can't see the killing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► monsters which is what the kids would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► relate to because I'm sure there'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► fun looking monsters right yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► like I don't understand how you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► ever think that this was going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► but but like that is the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► it is that when you go through the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► drafts when you are creating something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► it's not always obvious that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► is terrible like but it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► like just get the idea out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► we'll just we'll just work on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► and and so we only talked about how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► like we like the monsters we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► really like the main character like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► can we do with the monsters and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► variations of like oh maybe we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► this character called boo and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► a like a angry teenager is like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► know it's better if she's a toddler like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► I think it is useful to see some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► examples of how things change like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► they go from being awful to how they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► to being better like if you do any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► of creative work it's always useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► hear that kind of stuff to be like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► it was terrible in the beginning this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► makes me feel better about mine terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► first version of of whatever it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► i'm working on so you know is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► version of this is called I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► ugly baby that this is the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► like they're all ugly in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► some of them will grow up to be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► but not all of them and the other the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► other thing which really struck out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► me in this in this reading of it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► didn't strike me so much the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► was his flip side of the ugly baby is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► what he talked calls the beast and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► talks about feeding the Beast where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► as a company end up creating this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► pressure for you to keep producing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► and he talks about how you start having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► all of these fixed costs like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► employees and you have buildings and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► have electrical bills and all of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► the Beast that will just eat you alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► unless you keep producing stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► think there's a very interesting section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► perspective it was partly like the Beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► that ate up Disney that they became very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► concerned about like we have to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► constantly keep pushing movies out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► that like the the the Beast is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► thing which if you will let it will try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► to like chain you to an assembly-line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► schedule of like we've got to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► movie out every six months like go go go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► because we have all these animators and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► we have to pay them and I thought good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► it's a really interesting thing to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► in mind and obviously as a person who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► not super fan of schedules like aye aye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► align with that idea very much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► particularly caught me this time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► at least in my own personal experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► like I am aware that you know have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► having been self-employed for four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► now that i have slowly but surely built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► up more of my own beast than I had even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► the first time I read this book when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► was like oh yeah the Beast ok whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► this is like an interesting idea but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► I really feel this idea of like oh god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► do have fixed costs like and I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► people that I work with who I pay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► like I have these expenses with like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► assistant and with lawyers and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► stock footage and like this office that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► I'm renting and like all of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► stuff and that was just it was useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► read that and just keep in mind like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► with many of these books the utility is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► putting a word to with thing it's useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► to have this idea of like the Beast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► you have to keep the beast at bay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► I can see it's provide some motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► but you you can't let it become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► controlling factor and you can't let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► like chain you into the like tricking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► you into just producing stuff just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► get something out the door so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► have money coming in to pay your fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► costs because as he points out like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► you get into that cycle the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► successful you are like the bigger the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► Beast will get like the more expenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► you'll start incurring which then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► pushes you to produce even more low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► quality stuff just to get things out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► door so yes it's a especially in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► last couple months which have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► unusually expensive for me like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► really that really struck home in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► the second reading of the book so last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► time we told you not to read email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► freezes revisited um and I maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► begging you not to do but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► recommend people read this book I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► it's very interesting i think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► stuff that you should listen to we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► didn't I don't think we covered every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6598">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► all of the lessons we definitely didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► cover all the lessons that are in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► there might be things that resonate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► you more than they did with me and grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► I ice i recommend reading creative tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► yeah i'm going to definitely second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► recommend the book as i mentioned like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► there were things I didn't like as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► in time around the small small pic i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► really don't like the the narrator for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► oh man ok can we talk about that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► just a split second he's not as bad as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► previous narrator but I just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► like I don't like his voice I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► I don't know what at capital sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► I have no idea but the narrator is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► okay so I kept having this feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► the narrator is basically like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► over-enthusiastic grandpa who's telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► you stories that should be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► but it's his very enthusiasm and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► he is emphasizing stuff that makes it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► interesting so it's like oh you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► telling me stories from about when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► used to work with walt disney in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6658">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► nineteen-twenties grandpa but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► I don't know / friendly way it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► like killing any interest in the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► like this one point where like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► author is reading about like a car crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► that capitalism is like you can't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► the same voice the same like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► over-friendly old man voice to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► part of the story is there not a fan not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► a fan of the of the narrator for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► audiobook so maybe i would read this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► know you don't read books Mike but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► read it the first time didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► didn't like the narrator for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► audiobook I think it does suffer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► little bit of what i think of as the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► DVD extra problem where everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► always talking about how great everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► else is to work with and so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► there are many things was just here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► take me in the book where is like Ed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► description where you are talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► how amazing and ingenious and bold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► idea for this next movie is like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6716">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► deal with that anymore man like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► just too much of it so that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► graded on me after a while but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► things aside I have recommended this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► book many times over the years since i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► first read it and for anybody working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► the team I would definitely continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlCEsNo/6734">TS</a>]