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Cortex 28: Formalizing and Systematizing

 

00:00:00   so I just got back very recently from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   trip to Atlanta as part of the pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   addict and there was something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   different about this year's trip to last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08   year's trip and this year's trip was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/8">TS</a>]

00:00:11   very different because I met lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   cortex pants a people who had so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/13">TS</a>]

00:00:17   people didn't happen last year that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19   up to us and said that they found out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   about the panic because of cortex and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   know cortex wasn't around the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24   but I didn't have time before like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   we found out about panic because of X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   show though there are lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   that listen to cortex and then went over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   and and realize the beauty of the pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   life and there were i saw i think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/35">TS</a>]

00:00:38   least three cortex related shirts blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   very nice including the first gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43   hurley shirt which was amazing how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   got there in time so on the first day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   the show and like so basically there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   I was helping out Brad and his company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   knocking selling their pain cases like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   it was like a tradeshow type thing you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57   call it and I saw somebody walk in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   the room and they had a great early show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   on and I i basically vaulted the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   and lady's name was andrea and she told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/66">TS</a>]

00:01:10   me that she was watching like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   tracking and she was it just arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   before they were going to be leaving for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   the flight because she like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/77">TS</a>]

00:01:18   wanted it to arrive because it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   to be arriving on the same day right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   yeah I was over the moon is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   one I'd even seen because mine hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   arrived yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/86">TS</a>]

00:01:27   that's fantastic and it was it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   and I saw a cup i saw i think at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   two monkey brain shirts and see greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   whole spectrum representing at the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   so it was it was pretty awesome and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   was really nice to to meet people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   found out about the panic from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   cortex that that was a real nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   thing that happened that's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/106">TS</a>]

00:01:47   things where if you're listening to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   talking right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/109">TS</a>]

00:01:50   you already know if your app in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   yeah and then you're probably super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   excited to discover that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   podcast entirely devoted to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/116">TS</a>]

00:01:59   obsession so go check out the pan addict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   this the first I'm hearing about it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   you know your pen person like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06   this is for you this is what's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07   about the internet like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08   something for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   and Mike just happens to be part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   pen nerd Kingdom today I realized the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/132">TS</a>]

00:02:17   impact that you and the show have had on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   the way that I work i learned a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   valuable lesson today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23   oh where did you learn so i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   recently switched over to using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   different accounting software I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   one of those online accounting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   that like pulls in your transactions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   you reconcile and stuff as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   what i was doing previously which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   entering manually all my transactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   into my accounts own system right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   so I moved over to the online system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   because it looked like it was easier you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   just it pulls in the transactions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49   you and then you have to just have a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   buttons to say what's what but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   had some problems with this in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   there i cannot get the the balances to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   match up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   who so there is a discrepancy between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   transactions being pulled in and what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   bank says right and I could try to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   out and I couldn't work it out and sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   down today I was like put roll up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   sleeves and was like today is the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   where i find this error i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   working on it it got worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   uh-huh and I thought I know what I'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   I open mail email my accountant was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   how much money you need to give you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   fix this and I was like this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/203">TS</a>]

00:03:27   gray has done for me i was just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   I have this problem is like I can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33   it like what do I need to do to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   to do it and he's like semi all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/216">TS</a>]

00:03:37   documentation so I sent him a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   stuff and now hopefully there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   somewhere working on this problem for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   and they're gonna fix it for me it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   nice relief isn't it it's amazing i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   doomed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50   I feel so much better and I even checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   off in OmniFocus fix the problems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   it's going to be fixed now I really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   to have to worry about it from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   perspective it's fixed it's fixed enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   it's someone else's problem now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   yeah this is a we talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   awhile back but but definitely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   advice of bring on an accountant as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   as you can is something that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   should follow it was one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   things that I did when I when I set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   the company i'm not even before I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/254">TS</a>]

00:04:15   fully self employed and just as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18   I set up this thing that was meant to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   serious i was like i just got an account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   straightaway but now it's like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   don't want to deal with anything related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/264">TS</a>]

00:04:27   to this stuff so if somebody could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30   do it for me that'd be great and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   they fix this problem we're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33   like how much money would it cost for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   this to be done every month for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   yeah like that I never touch this my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   current situation with my accountants is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   that I used to think oh how can people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   live like this but now I'm one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   people which is like okay I since I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   to do some money transfers with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   business like I'm aware of the bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   balances in a vague way but I do know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   accounting at all until the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/295">TS</a>]

00:04:56   year and it's like here you go guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   enjoy the last 12 months of my bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   statements and this dropbox folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   called receipts that I've been saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   random stuff into I have the same one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   right over the course of an entire year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   right all unlabeled our underlord hit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/309">TS</a>]

00:05:13   any way is like you know what I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   this is going to cost a small fortune to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   do but you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   here you go guys like I what we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   this is how commerce works like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   want to do with thing i will pay you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   do the thing the value of my time to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/326">TS</a>]

00:05:30   do the thing is greater than the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   that i am paying you so like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/334">TS</a>]

00:05:34   but I you know years ago me would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   been appalled to see this folder called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   receipts that I have now which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   an ultimate crap box of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   because I'm feeling good about maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   giving somebody this job to do because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/347">TS</a>]

00:05:51   have just cancelled my co-working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/351">TS</a>]

00:05:55   membership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   oh really yeah I've not been there this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/359">TS</a>]

00:05:59   hmm well that's that's a good reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   cancel and i was paying a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   twenty pounds a month for Lou and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   just realized that one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   that I thought that the year of less was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   going to do for me you know like my off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   week students give me the time to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/373">TS</a>]

00:06:17   my co-working space for at least two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20   days when we can one day the next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   who what I've done is start fitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   lots of lunches with friends and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/384">TS</a>]

00:06:28   know colleagues during this period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   time which is much better than go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   co-working space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   so i guess i'm just not going there so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   decided to cancel it and I've gotta say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   I was really pleased with the process i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   emailed them and was like can I pulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44   this council this and then it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   cancelled immediately and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   that's how you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   don't don't make me jump through hoops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   yeah you know justjust counts all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   membership and and I system thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   for doing this like if I and I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   like if I will ever want this again I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   going back to them now because they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   didn't cause me hassle so i was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   happy about that so it was a great space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/426">TS</a>]

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00:07:11   going there then one must spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   money on ya and then that's just a just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   a business expense for absolutely no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   purpose that's no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   and there are so many places around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   areas that i was in that if I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   wanted to just go away and work for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23   day I could find somewhere I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   go to a coffee shop like it wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   yeah jumping back for a second though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   when did you officially sign up for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   year of less aegis you just threw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   out real casually like you've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   been on board with this too but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   remember any point where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   officially signing up for the year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   class as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   well I mean in our year of less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41   discussions I've been mentioning my off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/461">TS</a>]

00:07:44   week right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   so for me that is actually part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   year of less which is I found two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   every two weeks that were completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/472">TS</a>]

00:07:53   whoo and I've been filling them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54   things that i'm finding fun to do even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57   like a little podcast things but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   fun things not work things who so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   been good and I've been enjoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   no I'm very glad to hear that Mike this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/484">TS</a>]

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00:08:15   save the time and stress that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   running businesses and it all is focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   around the finances the invoicing part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   let me tell you a story so to record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   this last Friday was the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   month and the end of the month means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   lots of invoices need to be sent so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   sat down on friday as i always do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   open up freshbooks and open up our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   spreadsheets and I went to town and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   15 minutes I had like 30 invoices sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   out it was super super simple for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/519">TS</a>]

00:08:42   do this it takes just 30 seconds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   create and send an invoice of freshbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   what I really love is all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/528">TS</a>]

00:08:48   shouldn't you use before I saved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   there all of your clients to save dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   so it's easy to get to them all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   line items that you've created a saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   in there with the default pricing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56   stuff so it makes it just a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   taps to get an invoice sent out all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/538">TS</a>]

00:09:02   the activities tracks you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   people have looked at them you can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   out late payment reminders as well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/547">TS</a>]

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00:09:09   you'll be paid faster freshbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   customers get paid five days faster on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   average when compared to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   competition with freshbooks you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   able to integrate with loads of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   favorite services you'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   track all of your time to help you send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   out better invoices if you are a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24   tracking person they're fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   support they have the ability for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   track all of your receipts it is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   simple and I couldn't recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34   the best thing for you to go and do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   just try it for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   super simple to get started you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39   need to be a numbers person and fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/579">TS</a>]

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00:10:04   books.com / cortex thank you so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   freshbooks that support of this show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10   relay of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   alright so let's have an update on gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/611">TS</a>]

00:10:15   hiring mm so the last time we spoke I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/615">TS</a>]

00:10:20   think it was very much left in a i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   going to change my life and I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   hire someone is that is that how we left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   it and I don't think that's how i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   freeze anything that was kinda like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   i didn't get any cv's which I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   surprised about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   I didn't get any well my assistant sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   me a message like why the hell my horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   i'm getting all of these series from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   the system works known to me that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/643">TS</a>]

00:10:48   about as well as like actually this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   great like cortex listeners are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   responsible listeners think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   using of the contact form on my website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   they're not bothering like it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   joke right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   like yeah i would like to thank everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   that realized there was no point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   sending it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01   because there really wasn't any point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   because I wouldn't have done anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   with it i would just read your CV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   you don't be doing that like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/667">TS</a>]

00:11:08   have just read it and and looked at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   and thought about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11   sending it to grace system was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   move yes and I would like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   everyone who sent in their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16   application i have looked at none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/679">TS</a>]

00:11:19   yep because the system is not setup yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   he weren't really supposed to reach out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   yet like I wasn't I wasn't ready for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   yet and we will I say bravo to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   that did seize the day I mean now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   making a joke like if I was in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/692">TS</a>]

00:11:35   position of wanting to do this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38   thing and heard this you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   gotten my CV because why not you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/699">TS</a>]

00:11:43   gonna look at it you're just going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44   in it and when you eventually put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   the process of hiring you can apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   seize the day great see the gray no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   don't know why I said that I reject that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   statement there will be no seasoning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   the grey I do not like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   I've sees the gray do not like this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   alright so what's going on then at house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   how's this process progressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   ok so here is here is the thing listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/727">TS</a>]

00:12:10   where we're going to talk a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   about what I have been up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   I've been preparing a little bit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   this cortex episode which I usually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   leave in the hands of Mikael echo Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   just figure something out i'll shut up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   and talk about it but this time i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   like i think i actually need to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   organize what I've been up to us that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   have something to show Mike and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30   we can talk about it but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   conversation i think is necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   going to be partly mixed in with a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/753">TS</a>]

00:12:37   of mini cortex book club which relates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/757">TS</a>]

00:12:41   to a book called who the a method for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/761">TS</a>]

00:12:45   hiring but Jeff smarts listeners Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/765">TS</a>]

00:12:49   just made a sad sound i started reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/769">TS</a>]

00:12:53   this book i don't know like a week ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   and I message Mike and said oh hey Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/774">TS</a>]

00:12:58   you might want to read this maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/778">TS</a>]

00:12:59   will be like a little cortex book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   because i'm going to go through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   book over the next few days and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   related to what I am working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   on and Mike and I have not discussed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   at all since that point other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   fact that i know mike has read it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   think that sound is is not favorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/793">TS</a>]

00:13:17   from where do you find these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   where they come from this is a nightmare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/799">TS</a>]

00:13:23   of a book this thing if it was terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   the place I find these is I have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/806">TS</a>]

00:13:33   enormous txt file called books to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   that I make a little note about why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39   were entered in on the list at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   point and so at some stage past me wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/821">TS</a>]

00:13:46   down who book and then in brackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   related to hiring and I have no idea why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/828">TS</a>]

00:13:52   or when passed me wrote this down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55   I just knew whenever I would review that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   list of like Oh someday if future me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/836">TS</a>]

00:13:59   ever needs it past me has written down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/839">TS</a>]

00:14:00   in a book about hiring and so since that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   was just there last week when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   getting serious to think about trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   bring more people on board I thought oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   passed me broke this thing down so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   going to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11   the answer is I have no idea really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   where it came from other than I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   have a list of books some of which have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   notes to future me about when they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   be useful to read so these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   who-knows-where book recommendations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   come from they just appear Mike I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   like this one at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25   mm-hmm at least it was short it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   four and a half hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   yes it was a it was a business book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33   was very short i read it over the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   of an hour on a Saturday and then I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   a flight to and back from the continent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41   and i finished in that time so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   it was like three hours in total to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   is very short which is a virtue in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   business book world but I bring this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   now simply because i think this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   going to be kind of mixed in with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/891">TS</a>]

00:14:54   has been going on so if this is for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   listeners a sort of cortex business book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/899">TS</a>]

00:14:59   yeah there was a book that was red i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   just want to say about my way of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   book like I also expressed many bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   feelings the e-myth an email was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   entertaining in its terribleness mm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   book was just boring and terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   which is a worse mix I really didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17   like this one can I just say like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/917">TS</a>]

00:15:20   we're talking about the book one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21   things that I found the most egregious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   about this audiobook em they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   sometimes it's there are three instances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   in the book where the narrator of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   book reads a quote from someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   there are 23 reads quotes from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   that English when he is an American guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37   and he puts on english accents haha when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/937">TS</a>]

00:15:41   he reads the quotas it was a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/941">TS</a>]

00:15:45   decision do don't do that and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   also a quote from a Colombian person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   he puts on a hey gringo type accent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   it is so bad i don't know what he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/954">TS</a>]

00:15:59   it it just doesn't make sense to me why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/959">TS</a>]

00:16:00   does it like I can't think of any reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   why you would need to put on an accent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   feel like he couldn't help it right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   get you started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   is the narrator of the book also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   author of the book i feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   answer has to be s after you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   described this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   no actually it was narrated by somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   else patrick smaller and why they hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/977">TS</a>]

00:16:21   him or let him do whatever it was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   thought he was a good idea to do but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/983">TS</a>]

00:16:26   did it anyway I mean it thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   it for a second i would expect that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   it was a novel like if you're reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   novel in a character has an accent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   would expect the narrator to put on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   accent institutions it seems almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   inappropriate in a business book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   pointless because he doesn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   character original American accent when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   he reads quotes from from American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   people he just does it with the English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   person the Colombian person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   mhm fantastic fantastic while we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:56   just discussing this audiobook briefly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   have to say Mike that i think i know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   not going to change your behavior on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   this but I think you are making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   terrible decision listening in audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08   form to these business books that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11   recommend is I think a key way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:15   survive the kind of writing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   find in most business books while also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   extracting the value to be had in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   comes from learning how to get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   them very quickly because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:28   what i have is i have to listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   lists right you have to listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   lists there are a few points that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   highlighted in here or just for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   was like oh look pointless antecdotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   right and there's just so much in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:44   books that if you're reading it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   jump ahead or skim or like with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   book III basically floated over say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:53   middle third of it because I recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   immediately that this was just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56   really useful in any in any way shape or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   form but if you are listening to it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   have to have every single word enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   your brain and so I just I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   this is the way to go with business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   books like if we're going to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   the business book club and we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   to continue recommending books to you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   like I worry for your sanity a year down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   the line if you continue to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   that because what's gonna happen when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   recommend something that's like 16 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   long and you listen to the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   you're gonna lose your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   yeah I i think i'm going to try and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   a book by book decision like creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29   inc i wanted the audio book because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   was more its there's a lot of story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   there but this one i didn't need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   audiobook for this one you didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   the others because i was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:38   skipping the audiobook I've been perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   just get me out of this section this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42   horrific I don't need this and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   also suffers from all of the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   that all of these types of books is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   a ton of statistics and figures that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   thrown out that you just have to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   the true or not really and just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   moving on yeah it's like this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   all we in ninety percent of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   this problem like how how did you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   this and also so much of these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:06   just focused on naturally they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09   tools to sell this company's processes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   yeah of course they want you to come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   by what they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   yeah but that the whole kind of overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   thing about this book is the a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   that's what they talked about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20   hiring the right person basic right so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   can see why you'd want to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   there are a couple of interest in parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   in this book that we might get to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   little bit later on I can see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   someone could extract some use from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   but it really for me was just like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   sentences and look that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   ok so let's talk about this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:41   ok so we discussed last time i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   to bring someone on board for all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   various reasons that we mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:47   particularly some health concerns and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   few other things and just like I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   more help with what I'm doing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   reaching the point also just with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   to podcasts and the youtube channel it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   like that it is useful for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   structure this in a more useful way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   I've been thinking about it a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   this book who combined with also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:13   insanity of emails revisited I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:17   okay taking the useful parts of both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:22   these books has really helped me clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:27   my thinking process about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   helped me move forward a little bit so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   here's what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   we discussed previously this idea from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   mammoth revisited about right out your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   company as though you don't exist right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:42   out all of the the jobs that need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   done as though you have some huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   company you're not a part of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   there's just a bunch of employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   yeah so all of the jobs going to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   and then assign them to like to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   imaginary people the roles that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   need to be filled to to do the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   right so like marketing manager and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   production manager and that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   thing for you I guess right that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   exactly right now I i had sort of done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:08   this in the past but i always found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   at a like it was useful but a bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   an actionable or yeah i think when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   would have done this though you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   have very much been in the mindset of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20   just working out how much you need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:23   as opposed to ever thinking that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:24   were going to give these jobs to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   yeah they're there was a there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   lack of externalizing about this and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:32   I had done it but I hadn't actually even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   bothered to kind of keep any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   writing out that I had ever done on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37   these things like it was just not super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   actionable but the idea was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   valuable now the extractable valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:45   idea in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:47   comes comes like many of these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:50   right away right that's right at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53   front you know there's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   introductory chapter of nonsense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   they're like in almost every single one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   of these books like chapter 2 has almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   everything that you're going to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   of it and that was the case with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   one and what this book lays out is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:09   format for which you can write a useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:14   job description so it lays out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   thing like here is how you can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   down on a piece of paper a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   description that can also work as a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   to evaluate whether or not the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   who was working for you is working out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   and I felt like okay well this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   really interesting this is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   interesting idea because previously just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   thinking about job descriptions you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   it makes me think of like when i applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:38   as a teacher or you know any of the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   that I've ever had the job description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   is like a piece of paper that you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   once and then you never see it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   ever and get me just you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   this irrelevant thing and so I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:51   little outline now like okay here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   to formulate a job description and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   all of a sudden clicked in my mind like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59   okay I can sit down now and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:04   about how i am going to structure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   job descriptions feeds into how do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   need to separate out my company into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   bunch of jobs and separating out upon my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   company into a bunch of jobs also then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   clarifies what is the job description of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   each of these and so I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   surprising afternoon it was a Sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23   afternoon i read the first two chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   of this book and everything's seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   a kind of fell into place and I sat down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   and I wrote out a kind of basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:34   description of the company that I run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:38   and I wrote out a basic idea for some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:42   the jobs that I want and it was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   interesting afternoon because though on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   this podcast we have sort of jokingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   referred to this idea that like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   can I talk to each other as CEO to CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   and you have to think about yourself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   the CEO is separate from the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56   who's working in the job and like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   this kind of stuff I had this feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:01   that afternoon of like oh I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   really was a CEO today I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   the first day i actually was doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   kinds of things that a CEO would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   do sitting down very seriously very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:15   formally structuring out the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:19   structuring out some job descriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   for people who were going to maybe work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:25   in that company even though sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:26   they are me so I have a have a folder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   work to share with you Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30   wow are you interested to sing yeah very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   much so what I'm sending you is some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36   the stuff that i did and now there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:42   main things in in my life here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   like i have the podcasts and I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   YouTube channels and i have since we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:50   last spoke made some progress towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:54   helping out with the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   particularly hello Internet podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   i am going to credit it in no small part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:03   to like thinking about this in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   formal way so i actually wrote out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:09   the podcast as though it was a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   separate company that produces the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:15   that I am doing so if you take a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:18   you see I actually have a little kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   mind map flowchart of what the hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   internet company looks like with various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   jobs to be done what I was thinking is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   have these two areas of my life one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32   which is like the dominant big one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:36   is the youtube videos like that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37   much harder much more difficult problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40   for me to solve which we will get to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   there is an easier problem which relates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   to bringing on some help with the hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   Internet podcast i do a bunch of edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   on the hello Internet podcast there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   like a ton of back and work that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   with that podcast and so I kind of felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56   like okay let me try to start with hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:02   internet first so that if i do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   dumb or if I make any mistakes with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   or like just it's an easier conceptual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   problem to bring on someone to help with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   hello internet and also quite frankly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:15   it's lower stakes like if something goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   terribly wrong with hello internet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:20   would much rather have that happen then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   have something go terribly wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   the video production like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   ultimately kind of fix the hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   internet problem much more easier than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:29   could the the YouTube problem it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32   you know for example something happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33   in the audio it can be repaired and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36   was just you know people can get the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   version right that's not what happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   YouTube you know you've spoken about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41   this on hello enter in the past i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   believe once the video is up that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:47   but yes nothing you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   yeah there's nothing i can do and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   also looks like if something gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   uploaded you know it's going out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   literally millions of people maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   it's a bigger scale mistake as big as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   careful going to look for a bigger scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   problem at something dumb or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:03   just doesn't work out right or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   so I wrote this out and I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:09   about how in my process like what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   what is my role here and the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   I kind of settled on is I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   think of myself as like the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:22   director for the podcasts em in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26   sense of like okay I can work with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   people who helped produce this and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:33   wanted to bring someone on who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   help with parts of the process of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   a hello Internet podcast so prior to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:43   this the structure was basically i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   three cuts of the podcast the first cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   was for content to just remove all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   of boring stuff that doesn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   shouldn't go in the final show like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   we record just a ton of stuff and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   all of it always makes it in i would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   a second super intense kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   tightening everything as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   possible trying to remove gaps trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   clean up little audio mistakes I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   doing a ton and ton of little edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   there and then I would do a final listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   through and building of show notes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   i was doing kind of three runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   and so structuring this and thinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   through I realized okay i can bring on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   someone to help with that middle edit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:30   the podcast that someone can help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   with that because it's a huge amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   work and it also doesn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:39   have the same quality of like well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   talked about a thing and we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   it in the final show and like it's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   decision just to cut that like that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   decision that ultimately i have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   making that like cannot be delegated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:50   somebody else but the middle section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   totally can be delegated to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:55   else but for the moment since since i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   all new to this right on this is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   very unused to bringing people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   idea is that I'm just going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   listening to the work that has been done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   in the second cut and giving any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10   feedback as is necessary and that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   of mirrors our working relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   which is like me and you have spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:16   about this and and what way both feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:19   that we're getting closer to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:20   where you don't need to to have an edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   run on the show right kind of think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   we're there yet because you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   still tweaking things in a way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:28   think makes sense for both of us but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   think we're both understanding our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   process a lot more and I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   getting to the point where you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35   have to do it if you didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   yes I was going to say Mike that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   the very person who has given me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41   confidence that this kind of thing can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   even happen success because precisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   this because when we when we first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   started with the show you would hand me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   back in episode and i would add quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:52   lot of cuts to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   I I think that's fair to say like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   first anyone's I was like mm I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1795">TS</a>]

00:30:00   take out a whole lot more then then has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   been done the first time and and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   time working together the two of us we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   are now at the stage where i find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   when I'm doing the final listen through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   cortex not changing a lot or even some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14   of the changes that I make our I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   are they that significance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   I'm not sure that they are so like I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   do them because I prefer it but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   went out this way like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   yeah it would be fine it wouldn't be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   disaster as doing cortex together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   has been an interesting learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   experience for me in this like let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   back and forth with another person like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   we can talk to each other about what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   we want is a thing and like so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   that's part of why if you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   like me to put more than him out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45   isn't a cortex chopped because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:49   always had a different kind of working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   relationship then I guess you've had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   some of your upper works right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   oh yeah and on the cortex 1 i'm just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1856">TS</a>]

00:31:00   talent right yeah you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:01   yeah i have just rolling with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   playback airing sunglasses and use ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   to roll you know yeah you know sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   you have to knock on the trailer door to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   get me to come out at the right time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   do the recording mr. gray we're ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   for you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:14   yeah most of it is just out of my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   i just show up on the show notes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   know look at this isn't that nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   ok i'll read my lines and then I go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   but yeah so doing this with you over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:25   over this time has let me feel like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   i can i can take what has happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   with cortex and like scale it up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:34   next level with this thing that is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   much more my responsibility then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   cortex is like right now the way it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:44   am the backend of hello internet like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   do all the editing i do all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   publishing and the promoting of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   like on social media and all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   stuff and so this is part of what i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   been doing here is like okay I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   see a place where an audio editor can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   come in and then it was also in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   separation of tasks that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:05   realized something which was I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   had this kind of conversation with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   wife when I talked about putting up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:11   hello Internet episode that I was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   aware that on the day when I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   the kind of final preparations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   getting ready to put it up I was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   surprised by how long it actually took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   to go from export final mp3 2 episode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:28   live promoted everywhere discussion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   up it's all ready to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   they just get caught me by surprise how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   long it always took and so this was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   of these cases where I thought okay when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:39   I was making this chart i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42   of this in terms of well there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43   kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   the distribution side to this business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   as well that in my mind I was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   kind of rounding off as oh it's not much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   work it's very easy for me to do i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   just do this really quickly right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   thinking about what i got from that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   about who and thinking about the e-myth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00   stuff and like okay imagine i couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   do any of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:03   there needs to be essentially a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   distribution person and so I was sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   down and writing out here are all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:12   steps as though I couldn't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15   to take the mp3 file and get it up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   youtube get it up in the lips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   back-end get out on email campaigns get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23   it up on the radicand promoted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   facebook again there are so many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   steps to that then you really think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   because as listeners will know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   already quite a checklist person like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32   I've i have long checklist already for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   all of these kinds of things but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   a whole nother level to sit down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   really right out like which boxes need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:44   to be ticked in lipson which systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   need thumbnails uploaded to them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49   drop-down boxes four categories need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   be selected right like really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   through and doing every little step i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57   was absolutely shocked when i took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   look at the final checklist and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   I can't believe i was doing all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:03   and this is the part where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   okay there is work to be done here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:10   the plan is that my personal assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   is going to take on a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15   distribution role in this kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   hello internet company that is like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20   it's it's like the distribution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   assistant is the person who is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   help out with a bunch of this stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   was just a really interesting exercise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   it's one of these cases where even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:32   you think you are organized and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   on top of things a shift in perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   a little bit of actionable information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   can really change and bring into focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:44   certain kinds of problems and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   why i had this interesting feeling after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   this afternoon of like I think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   the first day that I was actually a CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   right of of sitting down writing it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   being really specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   like what like what needs to happen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   and what needs to happen where how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   you think that you will be in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   scenario do you think that you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   constantly checking in with people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   keeping an eye on things being done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   what do you think you'll be able to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   of just let it happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   the hope is that I'm able to just let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:19   happen then I'm i'm able to just step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   away from it as much as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   now if you take a look in that folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   that i sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   mhm you will see there's a file which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31   called audio editor hii audio editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2131">TS</a>]

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00:37:46   Squarespace for their support of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47   show and all of real afm ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:51   Oh mission ok so now this is where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:58   have followed the outline in the who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   book huh of what a job description is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:04   right and so there's there's a mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   which is like the one sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   description of what the job is for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   then below that there are four bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   points of here are the outcomes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16   this person is supposed to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   there's also the book also recommends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   this thing about like qualities of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   bottom which i think is a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22   BS but I've just done it for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   completeness for now but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   I have done here is when i was writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27   out this job description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   I was specific about thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:33   in terms of where is this person going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:37   to receive work from and where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38   going to send it to and so I have I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:42   a note in in the job description about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   how like when you are done with your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48   the next step is to send it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   distribution assistant like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   don't send it to me right I shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   involved in this really like when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   when the final exporting is done you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   send it to that person and then I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   written up another job description which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   is for this distribution assistant right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   and then this is what they should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   when they receive the final audio file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   from the audio editor so if you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   I mean like I am trying as hard as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   possible to build a thing where I touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:18   it as little as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   this is really good i gotta say like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   reading through these I mean you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   i want to spill the beans on it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   because i'm assuming that this is to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   kept private for the time being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   yeah but there's a lot of things in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   about like you know making sure the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   is is is kind of kept true to its point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   you know to be leaving the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   between friends and basically the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   for the audio editor is to just tighten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   it up right taking out the arms take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   the earth and and basically just master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51   the show to make it but basically how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   needs to be before it goes out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   yeah and then the idea as well is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   for now i am doing this third edit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   they can also do the final round of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   okay I'm going to send you the ads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   then this stuff can just be plopped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   of like okay bleeps and bloops they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   in at the appropriate spots here is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:10   opening theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:11   there's a whole other extra level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   little stuff that I don't really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:17   do like I can have somebody else do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   but again it was just so interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   realizing how much stuff my brain had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:25   filed under the category of not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:29   much like even my own checklists you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   know I would have a line item which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:34   like add transition sounds and export [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   final version was like well actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   that's quite a lot of steps you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   for the final part of the podcast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   when you think about it like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43   actually involved here how long this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   actually take and also if you like me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   checking that you didn't ruin anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   by a dry nose right yeah choose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   longest part right there love ya it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   easy to mess up at the last mile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57   you're like oh I've definitely done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   with the podcast sometimes like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   going to add this one quick thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   then the the people who listen right at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   the beginning send you message like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   know there's a 10-minute section where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   the where there's like a fade-in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   fade-out over the audio pickup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   groups right let me quickly change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:15   as as quickly as i can so this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:19   all my structure so far with again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:25   smaller of my two projects trying to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   down and formalize and systematize how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31   this works and and again it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   that even though this who booked as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   listeners might have gathered from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   initial description of it has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   just garbage in it i found this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   structure of this outline of how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   write a job description this for me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   somehow like the missing piece that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   needed to have in my brain about how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   i make the org chart actionable how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:57   make this really serious and how do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   how do i really think this through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   is part of what i have been up to and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   have taken on someone who is helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   with the second edits and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11   recording this episode on a thursday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:15   friday tomorrow if everything goes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   should be the first test of this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:23   system of i have had an audio editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   help me with two parts and also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   first test of having my assistant act as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:32   the distribution assistant and do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   of the public-facing sharing of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:38   uploading to the backend systems and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   of that kind of stuff so it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   happened yet like the trigger hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   been fully pulled but I am interested to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46   see how this goes as the first run of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   thing where i am trying to remove myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   as much as possible the distribution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54   assistant that job had already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   filled by someone you already working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57   with right you just basically gave more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:01   tasks to your personal assistant who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   you'd be vetted and worked with for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   years at this point exactly right like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   wasn't bringing on anybody knew there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   that you did bring on somebody new for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   the audio editing and it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   because the the way that this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   came to use is also grow up in the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   book when they're talking about finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   people to hire one of the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   say is who do the people that you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   with recommend exactly this person came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:28   to you from a recommendation from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   exactly everywhere we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   this i was discussing how I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   bring someone to help hello internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36   this is before i came across the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   book and we were just kind of chatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39   and you literally said to me oh I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   I might know exactly who you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   click great but isn't that isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   perfect so none of the jobs that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   needed for the hello Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   Corporation have had to go out to open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   application right right so i think now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56   we should turn our attention to gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   industries right well that's why once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   again the hello internet thing was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   this interesting test case where i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06   able to kind of play around with it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09   far things are going well but there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:13   very difficult thing that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   happened yet and that's the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   next stage of of scaling it up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:21   cgpgrey youtube channel so when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   to the big leagues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   it is when you go to the big leagues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27   because it's like it is a process right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   where you may be learned some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   from cortex and then you applied some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   those things to hello internet and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   you're able to apply some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   things to do to channel it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   chain where you're able to test things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   out on smaller scales until you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:44   what you've learned and apply that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   the the the final yeah and this has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   a very conscious process on my art so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   far like okay do this do this with hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   internet that's also partly why i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   tomorrow is going to be the test of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   bunch of this stuff tomorrow when we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:00   recording as it is and again like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   sure there are things that i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   realize in that process that then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   like ok do this before you do some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   the big stuff with the youtube channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   so you can try to avoid problems before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   they actually happen on the larger scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:16   alright so we can talk a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:20   about the the gray industries flow chart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23   here for making a video and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:28   really interesting to break it out cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   we talked about this a little bit last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   time but it was very different sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   down and so i have i have my company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   listed out and then I am head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   production of this company and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   was trying to divide that down into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   what are all the possible roles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   again kind of thinking like when we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   creativity inc where they talk about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48   know this is the director and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49   working with these these teams i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52   trying to think about ok what are all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:53   the various roles that go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:56   producing a video and imagining myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59   as like if i could only be the producer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   of this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   what are all the roles i need to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   and hits and it's just fun it's fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   kind of see it all written out where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   it's like okay there needs to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   researcher there needs to be a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   that needs to be an editor there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   illustrator there's an animator which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   are two separate jobs like we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17   about last time his voice recording is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   audio editing and there's music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   production and again it was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:24   to do this and realize like oh god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   used to do all of this you know with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:29   with the exception of the music i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   to do all of this on my own so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   weird to think about how i used to fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   all of these roles with the exception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   music and now thinking about okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   imagining these as individual jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:46   some of them i am still going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   obviously the writing and editing i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   still going to do obviously the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   recording i'm still going to do but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:55   looking at it and thinking okay what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   going to happen with the illustrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:00   animator slot and just like with hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03   internet trying to formalize my thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   in a way of writing out a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   description a little bit to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:12   what what is going to happen here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:15   like what what what needs to occur so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   had an idea which I still haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   decided if this is like a brilliant idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   or if this is a terrible idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   great okay yep so I'm thinking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:31   need to bring on illustrator animator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   alright how do i need to do that what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   ended up doing was I ended up thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   haha i'm going to write a little script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   something that's brief it's like 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:45   words that is an announcement of the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:49   and also the job application so I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   a little supermini thing that's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   social mores long love it as i can see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   guy with us and the application is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:03   animate the job application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   yes if you look in that folder that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   gave you there's a folder which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   called animation application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   uh-huh and now I'll keep in mind that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   this stage is still very rough there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   some things in there that i won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   having in the final one probably but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   was just writing it out to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   like okay how long is this going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   what's it going to look like and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:26   my way of trying to solve a fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   problem because what I'm looking for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   like is a person who can reproduce my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   style and ideally if I can I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:38   find one person who can do both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:42   asset creation both the illustration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45   who can also do the animation yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47   now normally I would think that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:51   pretty high bar because those are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   totally unrelated fields but since my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:57   art style is so ridiculously simple i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:01   think that i could get lucky and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   someone who can do both of them but i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   open to the idea that like if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   first-round doesn't work i might have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   back up and say okay instead of looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   for one person who can do both i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14   to look for two people who can work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   together so here's my thinking there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   no reason why you can't find one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   because you're one person it's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:24   gonna be people surely I do i do sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   disagree with that but I hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   you're right i could totally hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   you're right that there's one person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   I liked the script is funny I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   like lost over and it's already funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   yeah up there there is some part of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   which thinks this might be a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   idea to do it this way but this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   they're like putting out some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   call for work this this is the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49   scary new frontier that is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:53   that makes it fundamentally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54   and i'm going to be pulling the trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57   on this relatively soon hopefully maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   the day after this episode goes out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   i kind of want to force myself into just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   going ahead and just doing this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07   i think i have done about as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   preparation as I can reasonably expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   of thinking through like what do I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14   and talking to a bunch of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   like I'm reaching the limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   of free preparation before just seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   like put out an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   see what you get back take it from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   i think that's that's where this has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   go next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:28   I'm really proud of you all thanks Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31   I am I you you're doing it right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   need to do this and it's scary difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   complicated thing but you do need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   it it's the time it's also it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   funny situation to be in because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   think i would actually feel a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   about it if i was able to offer a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   time job right but in some sense i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   looking right now for someone who is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   freelancer who can just work with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:56   like maybe over time that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   transition into something more but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   not in a position to be able to say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   I generate enough work right now two day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   to fill 40 hours of animation work a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07   week every week like I'm I'm nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   near that and so that that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   things that in my mind makes this like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   funny kind of thing to do it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   call for freelancers eat you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   more so more than like a straight-up job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22   application and so that's that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   do slightly wonder like I wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   this is gonna go but that's also why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   just have to move forward and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   have to do this and just get it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   there you got interview people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   you can't get everything you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   know from work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   mm there's more than just what somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41   can display to you from their work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:44   yeah but something like this i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:48   vast majority is the work but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   these so-called soft skills right mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   things like communication timeliness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   working back and forth you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59   that kind of thing is is tricky and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:04   does mean that needs to be some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   interview a little bit that's where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:12   book who was way less useful than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15   thank you may have it has at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   it this hilarious scheduled for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20   eight-hour day of interviewing a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:22   yeah I did wonder if you going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   much of the top grading interview method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:28   consideration in I was like what does he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   do english but this is while actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   the funny thing is the part i skip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   most of what he created a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   description part who and I listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   them the three hours of interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:41   practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   yeah this is is one of these cases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46   there comes a moment in the book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   you realize who this book is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   written for and the answer is we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   sell you on our services to help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   find a new CEO for your multi-million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   dollar company right like yeah here's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   interview process that no one in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03   world would go through unless there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:07   a CEO position on the other side so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   found that less than helpful although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   do have to admit in terms of of soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   skills again like people skills have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   never been shall we say my core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   competency which makes the whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   trying to hire people like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   interesting sociological challenge but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   they're there were they were some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   of little tips in the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   which I picked up on of like okay that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:32   the funny thing is i would think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   would need to interview people for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   inverse reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   what do you mean you need to interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   people to make sure that they can cope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   with your lack of people skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   well yeah you know what Mike you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:47   have a point there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   it's a reverse interview how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   describe working with me Mike to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   people working with gray is is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   interesting in so much is that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3235">TS</a>]

00:54:00   have things that need to be done but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:05   also need to understand that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   get done on a undefined schedule that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:14   you will have to accept so this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   working with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:17   yes so i will have things I need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   done and I need to sometimes realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   that I just have to let go of what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   think is the time that is going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   done in MH because it needs to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   around your schedule which you are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   more protective of who also go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:33   Mike it's okay i'm trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   what else to say I'm not listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   you also need to understand that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40   ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:41   maybe vetoed mm and once they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:46   are did app you're not difficult to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:51   with once you understand the parameters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   like once people understand that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   difficult to get hold of but you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   respond eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   mhm and you don't care for schedules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   like they will just work around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   shows that you need to put into place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   for your own business and that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:11   just be very to-the-point and and cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15   with your responses most people can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   understand that then you're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   reasonable to work with i think but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23   need to understand it comes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   parameters that you did the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:28   basically if you can't cope with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   like if you can't work that way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:33   can't someone can't work with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:34   because you're not going to change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   I don't think at least not very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   because that's just how you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   so applicant out there that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:47   that you need to understand and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   also actually brings me to a point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   I wanted to make to which i think is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   important but i don't think that you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   feel it that way so i need to stress it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   to you ok if you interview someone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   cannot interview them on your own you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   have to have somebody else observing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   interview and this comes from my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   experience of hiring people great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   don't know if you knew that I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   experience but i have hired many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   who and i have been in the room for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   other people being hired and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   have somebody there because you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   have somebody to talk to about what just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   occurred who because I observer to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:26   interview will see things that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:29   not see because you're busy dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   the interview and once the interview is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   done you have nobody to discuss it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   at all so I thoroughly recommend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39   you have if you do conduct any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   interviews that you have somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   present in that interview process that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   is not the interviewee and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   say that is that is a great idea you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:51   should write a book on hiring people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   have been wasn't mentioned in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   and that's a fantastic idea that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   a method for higher includes 75,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:01   people who are involved in the interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   process across 16 different steps which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   will last seven hours so what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   didn't mention that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   can I mention one thing from that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   that I actually do think was very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   and I think it's something you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:15   consider my the interview process is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   important please do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   there's one quote that I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20   like a heart donor and recipient there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   has to be a match but this is between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:25   the culture and the fit of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   or the body of the recipient will reject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   the organ it's a very strong metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   but a good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   mm I've worked in many teams where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   somebody has joined the team or new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   bosses come into play and they don't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:40   and it destroys everything it just sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   all of the good out of the team and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   think that is a very good point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   something always worth considering if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49   this person doesn't seem like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   going to fit the company culture they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54   will destroy everything in the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   without meaning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   I've seen it happen many many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:00   yeah so actually let's let some just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   a moment as i'm not sure we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   super explicit about it but this outline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   for how to produce a job description and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:09   it has these three parts that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   the mission the brief description as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   outcomes like here are the deliverables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   here is a a clear yes know the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:19   did or did not do this kind of list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   which I really like what really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   clarifies thinking and at the bottom it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:26   it has it has these these qualities of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:30   the person and I really when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:36   reading it I thought I really do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:37   this is kind of BS but the author did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:40   convince me through the reading that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:44   the purpose of this is like what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:45   said it is to clarify in your own mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:49   like what do you need from person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:52   and also again to get it down on paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   like this is what you're looking for in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   someone and what I really liked is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:59   you know they're talking about you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   to kind of limited to like five at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:04   most qualities that the person has and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   also to be ranking them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   order of importance and so it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:11   forces you to formalize something and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14   forth like for example in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   description that I wrote for that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   hello Internet editor it made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:20   formalize like listen quality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:24   product matters more to me than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:28   timeliness of it right and and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:32   I think that's an important thing to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   down on on paper and I think that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   maybe that that goes towards helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   ensure that there's a match between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   person doing the job and and like what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   am looking for like that we're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   working together that like here is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   formalization of what is important to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:51   like is this is this important to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   like if you would give you what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   looking for is to always have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   guaranteed number of hours at a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   guaranteed number of hours at a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   time of work like well that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   at the bottom of the list of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   that I want like if if the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   going to take a while but it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   significantly better like I want that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   happen but that can mean like oh maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   sometimes some shows take a huge amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   of time to edit in an unexpected manner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   again I'm still just all new to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19   like this is me having this theoretical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20   discussion as a self-employed person at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:23   the very beginning stages of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   formally take on more people to help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   i thought like okay this this is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:29   worth trying to write out at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   trying to think about much more than i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   would have before like think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   fit between you and this other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:40   but it seemed that the other part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   this the more important part is it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   just between you and the person because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   in the system that you're looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   establish you will be having people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   talking to each other without you being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:52   involved right yes and that's where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:55   much more of a thing you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   consider because when it's employer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   employee does the situation is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   be very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   there's going to be more in but respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:05   because you're writing the checks then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   you have people talking to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   and having to work together and share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:12   information between each other and rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   on each other when you will be hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   out of the equation so that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   part of the quality part in knowing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   you believe that these two people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23   be able to work together like if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   you find somebody who fits your style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   right your kind of people skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:34   thanks thanks for the big five a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:38   powerful learning the word and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   to yourself this person is just like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   they will be able to work in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:46   way that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:47   that means I might not be able to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   together very well another person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   mm so that the other i think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   feel that you maybe need to go over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   these qualities too little bit more blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   too because York the qualities that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:00   have picked out currently are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03   functional so you have security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   attention to detail and timeliness Lou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   they're not really qualities of a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   the qualities of the work that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   and I feel like you maybe need to flesh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   that out with some more flowery stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19   yeah but it would like what flowery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   stuff Mike what do you think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:22   that it's an easy one but just having in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25   there that somebody needs to have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   interpersonal skills who and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   good communicator who you just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:33   put those in there so if you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   somebody and feel that they're not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   can point to the job description and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   I don't feel like you meet this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   role because of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:42   hmm let's say for example you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   somebody who has never worked with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:48   ppl has always been self-employed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   what's on their own stuff they might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   be necessary the best fit because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   don't know how to delegate or how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   cooperate and work with somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   mm but you're going to need especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   hopefully as this grows and you take two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   less unless you will have a team of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   people and unfortunately my friend with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   that comes HR problems you will need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   solve so you want to try and minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   the amount of those that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   trust me on this great mr. see that look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   like how can there be HR problems if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   these people are just distributed all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   over the world like I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:27   have an office anywhere rightly this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   all just people wherever in the world or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32   not we're not coming together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   surely if your 100% distributed company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:36   you can't possibly have an HR problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   finally enough that can actually make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:41   things worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:41   hmm because these people will only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   interact with each other over text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   who and that is where all the emotion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   haha interesting point people skills and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:53   communication skills must be added into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   this you'll know whether somebody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58   these things but if somebody looks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   this application and thinks great i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02   continue being a hermit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   it's not the job for them who I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   you may have a good point there Mike I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   think you have a good point there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10   I want to manage team of 10 people who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:14   have a lot of experience in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   these things can go horribly wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:17   I was 21 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20   it was a nightmare I'm sorry Mike you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:26   times over now it is long long gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:29   I'm glad to hear that genuine I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   happy that you're looking at this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32   really pleased that you give clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   taking this is quite far in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   couple of weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37   yeah yeah i was i was honestly actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   hoping to have this kind of live and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   and done for this show I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:46   thinking of surprising you and having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   my job announcement go up this morning I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   feel like I will talk about it now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   that didn't work out because I'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   this so seriously that I actually again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57   in terms of like a look I'm an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   CEO now I scheduled a a business trip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:03   a colleague on the continent to schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   a hole in person meeting to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   hiring well I seen this person has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   teen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:11   yeah it's a friend and associate who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   gone through a lot of hiring in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   similar field as like can we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   together and talk about a thing like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:20   we talk about hiring can we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   what you've gone through like how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:23   did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:24   problems that you had and so I hate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:27   know i don't i don't like traveling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:28   don't like doing this kind of stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   really don't like taking a bunch of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   at my schedule and this ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   like a day-and-a-half basically but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   that was one of the things like now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   is I'm going to do this right now i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   able to get in touch with this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   i'm able to do this thing so flew out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   like we had a long meeting we talked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   whole bunch of stuff about hiring and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   was you know it's just great to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:49   another perspective from another person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:52   about something they had they had gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:53   through so i am taking this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   seriously and but that was partly why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:58   like oh I wasn't quite ready to surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   you with my job application today Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03   but yeah it's a thing that I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:06   thinking a lot about and I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09   after maybe I add a few more soft skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   in my application and and just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:14   couple more drafts of it and get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:15   really nail down that it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:16   something that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17   relatively shortly and we'll see how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   goes as far as the show goes this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21   better for me because now we get to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   about it before and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   oh yeah we're going to topics it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   makes and one baby and i have a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   of points and questions for you before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   we get off this topic though please go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   ahead and doesn't matter to you whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   this person is in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   no not at all why because the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   would matter is if they were here if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42   they give their already not in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43   then it doesn't matter where they are i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46   got i would have preference for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   who was on the east coast of America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:52   simply because that time exchange works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   really well but as long as the person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   able to talk to me in the afternoons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59   like then I I don't really care where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   they live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   okay so you just you just need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05   some overlap of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   basically yeah it needs to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   needs to be some overlap of of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:12   have you considered how any of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   attitudes or approaches to work might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   have to change if you have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   working for you because these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:22   going to be freelances in theory right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   at least at the very start they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25   to be freelancers ideally again i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:29   know if this will work out but ideally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   would like to be able to transition this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:34   into at least part-time like hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:37   part of what's happening here is that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   i free up more and more of my time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   it's a virtuous cycle where I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   have more things for them to do and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   can transition this into like oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   AE part-time job or three-quarters time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:50   job but i would like to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   eventually I don't know if that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   work but at least at the start yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   they're they're going to be freelancers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   is the way this works I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   biggest thing that i have seen when I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   tried to structure some of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03   out is is a thought about how quick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:06   the turnaround and so one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   I did when I was thinking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   hello Internet podcast was I wrote out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:13   that kind of little day by day of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:18   would be the most optimistic turnaround [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:21   time if I'm working with two other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   people to get this done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:24   someone who's doing the audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:25   someone who's doing the distribution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   I realized immediately like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   in theory nor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   Emily if I record a podcast if I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   everything I can turn that around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4114">TS</a>]

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01:08:42   I write out how this schedule looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4122">TS</a>]

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01:08:49   turnaround considering like okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4129">TS</a>]

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01:09:24   in on a video start to finish you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4164">TS</a>]

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01:09:29   well because working multiple things at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   once but like in theory i could do it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   five weeks and then again just writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   out like how might this work with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   people it's like our at bare minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4176">TS</a>]

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01:09:40   to finish on a single thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   including going back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   that person and like storyboarding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   leaving in time for changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   corrections and then distribution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:49   all the rest of that so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   probably the biggest shift in focus but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4191">TS</a>]

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01:09:57   thing it's just a change in focus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4197">TS</a>]

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01:10:11   connects into the very fact like why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   can't stop myself from constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:14   animating is because of a certain amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   of impatience but I think if I just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4216">TS</a>]

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01:10:20   shift my mind on that topic and just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:24   into a different mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4224">TS</a>]

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01:10:37   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4237">TS</a>]

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01:10:51   written for blue one point that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54   author's talking about interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4254">TS</a>]

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01:10:58   multiple process the way that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   been in the past to try to see how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4260">TS</a>]

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01:11:31   do and he has on their things like work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4291">TS</a>]

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01:12:09   those meaningful gifts consists of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:10   flowers balloons or a gift certificate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4330">TS</a>]

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01:12:52   specialist that it's it's super tempting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4372">TS</a>]

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01:13:25   the animation maybe there's two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4405">TS</a>]

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01:15:54   out let's define saga a long story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:58   heroic achievement especially a medieval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   pros or a long involved story account or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:04   series of events this is a saga okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:07   yeah I very detailed and it's been over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   three Episode six weeks here of of only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:12   focus here okay so definitely a saga so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:16   now OmniFocus for iOS has been released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:20   with the automation scripting engine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:24   guess we'd call it bill in that we spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   about last time so it's now out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   world you have also put out a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   which means you've now had the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:33   play around with this is um so I I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:37   everybody else listening I'm sure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   very interested to know your thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   about the only focus scripting and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:44   it's working for you or if you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:46   tried it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:46   so this came at a very fortuitous time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:52   for me which is which is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53   connected to a bunch of the stuff we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   were talking about earlier in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:56   about formalizing and systematizing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58   business because i really like whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:03   i can do a thing that serves multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:07   purposes and so while I was writing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:11   those flowcharts of what does my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   business look like and while I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:14   writing out the job descriptions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   what am I trying to hire I was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:19   so working out at the same time let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   do in-depth checklists of every stage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:28   everything and a look this is afraid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:32   everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   yeah but this is a perfect time to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:37   out many focuses new scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:41   templating system so i thought like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:45   is this is this is this is just great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   love it when things serve multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   purposes it's like okay I'm trying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   thing out and i'm also sort of working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   on the business at the same time and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55   serves multiple purposes and it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   having OmniFocus come out with this at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59   the time that they did was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:00   absolutely perfect because it wasn't an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   in-depth reworking from the ground up of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:06   a lot of my checklists trying it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:09   with a new system and the simple verdict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:12   for people who just want to know the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   of the saga is that their new system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:18   fantastic it's it's absolutely fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:21   i have to say it is not only is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:26   everything that I could have possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   Wow in an automation system it is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:35   than I would have thought to ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:39   like the the way that they have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   this is like maximum power combined with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:46   maximum flexibility in a way that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:49   never have occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   can you explain why so this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   get a little this is going to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:54   little technical we're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:55   nutty here we're going we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   get a little nerdy and here I'll show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   you Mike something i'll send you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:02   let me just say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:03   as it stands right now I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   understand how to do this because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:08   you know people have tried to explain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   to me and I can kind of groc what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   happening but I can't get it to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:16   it's supposed to do so what but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:18   know is that now it's out in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   there are going to be more tools are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   coming out there are more example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:23   scripts i know that the workflow app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   guys are working on specific OmniFocus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:28   actions and I feel that once they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:31   I'll be able to really kind of do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   in my own way but as it stands right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   like you just sent me a thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38   cannot understand how you would get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:43   this point by looking at it i have sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   you a text file with a hundred and fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   five lines of the template that i made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:51   that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:53   hello Internet podcast from start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:54   finish this template references other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:57   sub templates which are tasks for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59   people so this is not the full process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   while this is things in this list part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:04   of the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05   there's like things I would never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   bother checking boot right but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:11   why i wanted to test out this this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:14   thing so the way they have done this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   is super clever so last time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   discussed just very briefly because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   had only looked at it that Omni focus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:23   now working in this way so that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   there templating system can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:29   task paper so if you if you do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:33   like you copy a project in OmniFocus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:37   go to paste it in a note it won't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:40   paste like the words that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   written it pasted it out in this task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:45   paper format that makes more sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:48   they're writing it out ok ok so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:52   could set up the project and then raced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   in and I bet once that's in there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:57   lot easier to understand like the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   that was so confusing to me was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:00   imagining trying to write it out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:03   that just didn't make sense yes so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:06   wanted to mention that because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07   that is almost a hidden feature that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:11   super key for people who are unfamiliar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   with this now i am comfortable enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:16   with very basic scripting that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:19   written it all out like I didn't do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   copy/paste thing but I think for anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   who wants to get started with this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   can do the thing of like create in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:29   OmniFocus the thing that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   replicate copy paste it into a text file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:35   and it will spit out the format of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:38   it's supposed to look and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   see like oh okay I get what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:44   here you don't have to just write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:45   from scratch so ultimately what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47   doing is you're creating a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   tasks can only focus about due dates on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:52   them so you don't see them right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:56   then you invoke the script which we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:58   talk about in a bit and then you add all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4918">TS</a>]

01:21:59   the dates to them and then you start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   see them again because they show up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03   your dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:04   yes that is that is what is occurring so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   here are the things that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:09   about this because with with any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12   automation in iOS it's very often that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:15   apps have some automation but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:20   have access to everything and as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:25   i can tell Army has made it possible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:28   you to specify everything about a task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:32   or project that you could specify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:35   manually on the desktop app so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:38   systems if they did automation they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   would allow you to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   relatively simple like specify the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   and specify a due date you know when and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46   maybe like a sub-project status or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   something but with OmniFocus is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:49   okay by writing it this out in task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:52   paper you can specify title the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:55   sub-project it belongs to the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   the estimated time the deferred date the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:00   due date you can specify repeat not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:03   simple repeat but very complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   structures of repeating you can fill in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07   the notes and there's a there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   almost hidden feature of OmniFocus which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   I totally love which is this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:12   called autocomplete which is whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:15   not a sub-project will complete itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18   automatically when all of the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   boxes have been ticked which is a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   thing but is super useful out depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:26   on the way you're setting up on me focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27   so like everything that you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:31   oh yeah like flag state like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   even think of all the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:34   can specify but it is all in there so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37   far as I can tell there is nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:41   you could theoretically manually set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:44   in the OmniFocus app that you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:46   also specify with task paper it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:49   everything and i find that is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:52   rare thing to find in in automation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:56   that is just fantastic and they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:59   really great about being able to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:02   kinds of weird stuff with variable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   like what you've what you've seen in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   own template is I like to specify the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:10   due date which is the date that say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   video or podcast is going up but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:15   you can also modify those variables so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:18   you can say like oh this part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   project is due on the due date minus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:24   seven days right for this part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:27   project like here's the weird stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:28   sometimes people don't think about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:30   this part of the project is due x days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   after the main project is actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:36   right and it can it can handle this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   of weird formatting of I want to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   thing that is outside the the expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   range because I could manually do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44   in OmniFocus and you can specify all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   these things so this this task paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:50   format alone is is fantastic like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:54   absolutely everything that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   possibly ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:57   but the thing that is kind of genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:00   about doing it this way that this allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:04   other people to build even more complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:09   things on top of it so you can for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:12   example if you wanted to write your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   little program that could in theory ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:18   you a bunch of if-then-else questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:21   about a project and then just spit out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:25   task paper template that depended on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:28   those if-then-else questions that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   incredibly powerful so it it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:34   just mean like oh you can use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36   automation system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   it means that you can almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:41   build-your-own automation system on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:44   of this to then spit out a thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:46   can talk to me focus and so it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:49   interesting i've been talking to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51   people who have also been playing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:52   with this and realizing like man i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   i have i have complicated things but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:57   know other people who are real computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:00   programmers like oh man i can write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   thing that just auto generate all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:05   tasks i need for the rest of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07   right like okay that is a level above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:10   I'm doing and and the system can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   like take that and accept that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:15   create a project that is that is built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   on top of this it's it's just fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   it really is i have to say i am i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:22   more impressed than i had any reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:27   expect to be so i am i'm thrilled and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:32   couldn't have come at a better time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:33   either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:34   so you're sticking with to do for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:37   though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   sorry to do haha yeah i'm i'm some I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:43   sorry too i have to say it you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:45   a funny thing is i was using to do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:47   animal it was a couple of months maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:50   close to three months and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   exactly how long and so I am i am back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:55   with OmniFocus and as as i discussed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   in the red at last time like ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   this is kind of what I wanted like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:00   OmniFocus was a lot closer to the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:04   worked naturally then to do was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   just that automation was becoming a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   breaking feature for me so that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10   moved to do and the funny thing was as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:12   we discussed on the episode before this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:13   occurred you expected that all that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:17   do would be more likely to add the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19   features that you wanted then only would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   little did we know right yeah little did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:23   we know there's there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:24   secretly brewing and in the back right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:27   now I thought like maybe i can i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29   bully and harass the loan to do tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31   just like to bend his appt towards my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34   will right which of course is crazy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   is why we need to talk about your hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   processes for this is that not how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:41   works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:41   yeah that's what we were doing ok i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   i'm not exactly sure about that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   gonna look out for the job application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:48   coming soon right qualities bendable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:52   I do i do have to say that that like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:54   do is still a very interesting app I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:56   still definitely recommended under some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:57   circumstances and i have to say like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5277">TS</a>]

01:28:01   do has some clever things that I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03   haven't quite been able to break my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:04   habits of having switched back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   Tommy focus like to do has a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:09   feature for bulk editing tasks which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:13   the thing that I honestly think any iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:16   developer who is working on anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:20   where you might want to edit multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:23   items that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:24   and should take a look at the way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:25   handles it they just have a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   really simple way to like bulk edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:30   things which is oak which is always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:32   real problem on iOS like iOS like loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:36   you to do things eventually but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   guy writing to do really really nailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   solving that problem and so that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:43   so I do i do miss that now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:44   OmniFocus and the other thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:47   really love with to do with there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:48   way where you can long press on a task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:52   and it brings up a little menu of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54   like quick button options for one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   most likely things that you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   with this do you want to defer this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5338">TS</a>]

01:28:59   a day do you just want to delete it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01   want to do a couple of other things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   i still find myself long pressing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   OmniFocus tasks and thinking I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:07   working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   I'm i will eventually i will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:11   lose those so to do definitely has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:13   clever features you know about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15   as a full such action from your focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17   for that stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:18   yeah we'll look that's we'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:20   that another time right but it's cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:21   it's like i'm using on the ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   stuff ah so it's not it's not super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:25   useful to me but like I've said before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27   with to-do apps there's this infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:30   demand for them because everybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32   their own picky ways of working and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:36   is a case where I am very happy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:39   back with OmniFocus because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:43   their core competency of just show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:48   the things that are available to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:51   right now to do that has always really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:56   suited the way that I work and so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:59   like quite naturally my mind aligns with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:02   OmniFocus the most and so now i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:05   just super thrilled that the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07   deal-breaking feature has has now been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:10   removed and I can just go back to all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   my normal like little little annoyances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:15   and complaints with an app like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:16   for absolutely anything but i'm just i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:18   absolutely i'm absolutely thrilled to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:20   back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:21   I love having a nap with dark mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   especially for something i use as often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:24   as my to-do manager so yeah it's I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:28   say like super congratulations to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:31   OmniFocus team like this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   really impressive way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:36   solve a difficult problem and also give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:41   other people the ability to to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:44   their own solutions on top of this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:47   case they need more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:58   this is only the purple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkY8mtg/5458">TS</a>]