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00:00:00 ◼   ► there is a nonzero chance that someone's [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► gonna write our names on the on the u.s. [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► ballot [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► oh yeah it's that you don't understand [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► like that is going to happen [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► I i guarantee you that yeah that and so [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► someone somewhere is going to have to [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► read out how many boats we got right [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► like someone is going to read out [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► somewhere and then me and you have been [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► that we've got voted to it's gonna be [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► it seems inevitable that someone's gonna [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► write clearly 2016 on their on their [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► write-in vote I would be shocked if it [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► doesn't happen very excited about that [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► full yeah but then this can also act as [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► a check on voter fraud because you [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► always get these stories come out where [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► someone does a write-in vote that's a [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► name so that they can intentionally [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► check later when the votes are counted [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► to see if that one write-in vote was [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► counted very often it's not which I [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► doesn't make you feel super secure and [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► democracy [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► mm so we're going to have to check [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► everywhere we go i will you find where [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► we where we've been voted yet you can or [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► we're greatly 2016 can be a check on the [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► integrity of your local polling station [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► yes the canary that's like a warrant [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► canary right great 2016 on your ballot [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► and then you see if you got any votes [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► remember people on top of the ticket [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► yeah yeah that I think this is perfect [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► and so people can do i'm looking forward [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► to the election season [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► yeah we're gonna win oh I don't know [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► it's like trying to remember our own [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► platform is it is it was an ipad and [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► every house and automation in every app [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► yeah perfect make ipad great again make [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► I've had great again [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► so you went ahead and did it you've put [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► your application out that we were [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► talking about last time for the [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► freelance animation work [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► yes oh dear how's it going so far [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► I don't know I i said in the i said in [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► the application i wasn't going to look [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► at entries until tomorrow and I haven't [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► so i have no idea how it's going [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► do you know if anyone coming in I do [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► know that a bunch of come in okay [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► because i have arranged a system with my [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► assistants my i guess like now slight [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► member [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► HR department assistant surprise [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► promotion that she has been receiving [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► all of the various applications [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► she has been putting the information [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► into a spreadsheet with some secret [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► checks behind the scenes that I also [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► want some information that but in the [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► spreadsheet and then she is also taking [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► the videos and she is giving them all [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► number and putting them all into a [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► dropbox folder for me to view so I'm not [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► exactly sure how many videos are in that [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► dropbox folder right now I know there's [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► there's a bunch and I'm gonna take a [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► look through them and this is the way [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► that I want to do what I just want to [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► have a number i don't want to know [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► anything about the person i just want to [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► see the video [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► yeah and so this way i can say oh yes ID [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► number 1245 this person was good for the [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► collection papers exactly right and I [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► could say oh you know the these three [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► these three are good and then let's move [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► on from here and see okay like you know [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► did this person send a portfolio did [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► they do a bunch of other stuff that's [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► that's the way I'm doing it so I i will [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► not be looking at the applications first [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► because the most relevant thing to me is [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► how well can it be animated and i'm just [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► going to look at those i'm going to look [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► at them clean with just a file number [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► and that's how it's going to start so I [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► know people have sent in applications [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► but i haven't actually looked at any yet [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► so I don't know if they're any good [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► you're not going to know this but i'm [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► just going to mention it for the [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► listeners who will know this i just [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► realized that the video that you created [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► with your voiceover that people will [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► take the gradient the colors that you [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► have to look just like the new instagram [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► logo [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► oh ok i know that was going to be your [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► on so but now people can go and look at [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► that and be like oh wow they felt it [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► took the idea from you so if you hate [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► the Instagram logo you can you can blame [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► great for that one [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► I don't have an Instagram of all the [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► people in my life to assumed would not [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► have Instagram would be you [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► okay what are you going to post the [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► pictures of your food the protein bars [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► and bolts things like that [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► that's perfect for flights of not some [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► bolts that you just chowed down on your [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► robot power [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► yeah i like the system of just randomly [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► looking at videos rather than looking at [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► the applications themselves because the [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► thing that you want to be judging people [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► and is the work not anything about them [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► as a human [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► yeah that the work is the thing that is [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► the most relevance and I also figured [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► that this is the way i mean i don't know [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► how many of these are going to be [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► looking at hopefully lots but I figure [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► this is the fastest way to be able to go [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► through something because I just you [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► know I have obviously been thinking a [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► lot about hiring and having some [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► interesting conversations with people [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► and this is one of these cases where in [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► my attempt to to work with someone in [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► this particular situation there their [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► resume is not really relevant page that [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► the only thing that is relevant is how [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► well they can do this and so if someone [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► sends me you know a resume and says I i [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► went to this design school and I went to [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► this design school and I'm certified in [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► Adobe Illustrator and i'm certified like [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► okay man like that's great but i don't i [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► don't really care like I only care if if [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► this thing can be done you know it's and [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► if this is if this is your first attempt [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► at ever doing any kind of animation and [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► you do it well the flipside like I don't [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► care either [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► you know if you're brand-new but you [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► just learned adobe illustrator and you [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► gave it a go and you did a good job like [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► fantastic welcome aboard like this is [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► yeah this is the thing this is the thing [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► that is relevant to me so that's why i [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► don't i figure i watch the videos first [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► and then I'll i look at what has come [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► through on email [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► secondarily because something else I [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► hadn't thought by so you replied to a [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► reddit comment about this there was not [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► necessarily one person is gonna you know [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► you have like multiple golden tickets to [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► come and look inside to see gray factory [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► golden tickets are fitted then I just [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► considered how much this is like Willy [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► Wonka I I don't see the connection and [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► over these seen you in many years [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► there is you know [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► is a factory in which amazing things put [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► together for the enjoyment of millions [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► just like Willy Wonka and now you've [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► opened up to the world for somebody to [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► come in [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► you know and they're gonna go people for [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► a set of trials to see if they will be [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► the the true and pure person who can [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► help you out the end well as long as I'm [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► gene wilder Willy Wonka and I'm not [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► Johnny Depp Willy Wonka that is the only [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► one the gene wilder movies a faucet [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► period movie [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► yeah okay so they just want to make it [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► clear yeah Chris in this in this analogy [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► in this analogy i'm jean water i do not [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► want to be Johnny Depp in this analogy [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► am I like an oompa loompa then i guess i [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► am right if you want to do that to [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► yourself [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► go right ahead but this is the only [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► thing I can be in this scenario right [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► because i work with you already and [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► they're the only people that work of him [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► already right [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► yeah I just a shame like I can see the [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► photo shops already like it's gonna be [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► great i can't wait for it but yes so [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► moving right along from the inevitable [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► bearded photoshop's of Mike as in beluga [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► too pretty to the ass even hit in this [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► scenario yeah it's having having put out [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► this job application it's interesting to [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► see like a eight challenge of clarity [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► sometimes where there are things which [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► are sort of clear in my mind the new you [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► look at what you've done you like [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► obviously there's no reason this would [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► be clear to anybody and yes one of those [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► things is when i said i was looking for [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► freelance help i I've always been [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► thinking that in in my absolute perfect [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► perfect world I would love to find at [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► least two people that I could work with [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► right and it's precisely because since I [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► know this is going to be at least from [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► the start freelance work i would want to [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► because the primary person that I might [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► want to work with might not always be [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► available and so I have had this [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► experience with music where there are [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► several people who i can have on tap to [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► help with music but that's partly [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► because each of them isn't always [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► available precisely when I need them to [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► be available so yeah it's it's not [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► that there's just going to be over there [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► is a single person i am going to be [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► making a list of however many people i [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► think that it is possible to work with [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► and at least at the start to move move [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► forward in that way now again I'm still [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► I'm still a little worried because i am [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► looking for a kind of perfect person [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► that I i will not find what I'm looking [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► for on this round one you know and that [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► I will have to do around two or or a [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► second approach for this so again this [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► is my theoretically perfect scenario is [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► that i would find two or more people [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► that I could work with but I'm I don't [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► like a betting odds on it i'm going to [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► say there's the twenty-five percent [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► chance that I get what I wanted in the [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► first round I don't know we'll have to [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► see i actually think that finding [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► someone in the first round or two people [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► in the first round the perfect is [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► actually not the best thing that could [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► happen i think the genuine i think the [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► better thing is to find people that are [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► kind of there and that you can help [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► develop the office again let me let me [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► try to clarify what i mean by perfect [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► here because what I'm looking for is [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► someone who has talent right someone who [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► someone who's able to do this thing well [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► and again thinking back to my experience [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► of being a teacher it was interesting [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► always to see that there were kids who I [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► could immediately say like oh this kid [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► is talented [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► it doesn't mean that they're doing [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► everything exactly right the first time [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► around but it does mean that compared to [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► the majority of their untalented peers [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► like this would be the kid you would [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► want to work on project x and so that [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► that is my feeling in this this round of [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► applications what is when I say perfect [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► i really mean that there there's someone [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► who they've done a competent enough job [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► the first time around and but what I'm [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► really looking for is this is difficult [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► to define talent of of some sort and I [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► think like one of the things i will be [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► looking for when I'm watching the videos [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► for example is [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► because i haven't we can talk about this [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► now because of course this episode of [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► cortex is going to go up after in theory [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► i actually look at things so I can kind [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► of reveal the secrets here [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► one of the things I'm going to be [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► looking for is did the person do [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► something interesting or unexpected with [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► the way they chose to animate a [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► particular section I think that kind of [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► thing is is a marker of talent because i [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► have in my mind okay if I had to animate [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► this script I know roughly what I would [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► put on the screen in each of these [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► sections but what I would actually want [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► to see is someone who did a little [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► section differently than i would have [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► done it and that either provokes like a [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► like a smile or a laugh from me in this [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► unexpected manner and it's very [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► difficult to define and that's not [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► something i'm going to write out in the [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► job application because i think that [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► people who are talented would just [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► naturally do that but they wouldn't be [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► able to do not do that so that's one of [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► the things when i'm looking through this [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► that i'm going to be kind of keeping an [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► eye out for is was I surprised did you [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► do this in an interesting and and [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► unexpected way but that's not the same [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► thing as literally expecting that [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► somebody is going to create a video that [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► looks exactly like I made it [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► that's what you should should sort of be [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► aiming for but that's not necessarily [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► the thing that I'm explicitly and only [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► looking for when I'm actually reviewing [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► the videos i think of it like a tribute [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► band [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► ok like they do in the style of cgpgrey [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► right but it as it some Flair in some [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► way i think that that's the key [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► yeah maybe I know nothing of your music [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► analogies so i'm going to assume that [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► that spot on the right but this is this [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► is again this is one of these things [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► where you realize like oh I when I was [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► writing this out i was thinking oh [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► there's two things that I'm looking for [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► i'm looking for an animator and an [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► illustrator but there's really three [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► things that I'm looking for i'm looking [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► for an animator an illustrator and [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► someone who who has this undefinable [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► little spark of talent [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► and that's one of those you know when [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► you see it kind of things and so we will [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► know I guess the next time we record [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► cortex because by then [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► yep i'm looking at it on friday which as [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► we are recording right now is tomorrow [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► and I will be continuing to look at it [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► as stuff comes in because that was not a [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► finalized deadline but by the time we [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► record the next cortex I think there [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► will be some information about whether [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► whether or not I'm going forward or [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► whether I'm thinking about how to [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► approach a round two of hiring well I [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► will look forward to it [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► I i wish i was future me right now and [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► already knew what happened did you [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► intend friday the 13th such a happy [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► accident I was just a pleasant accident [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► don't know why because it routes out [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► pointlessly suspicious people friday the [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► 13th is unlucky i don't know if i wanna [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► i already was over the conversation [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► though done in fact I'm sorry next this [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► week's episode is brought to you by [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► pingdom it's like kingdom but with a p [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► pingdom job is to make sure that your [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► website stays up do you run your own [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► websites do you run your own service [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► online [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► well kingdom uses more than 70 global [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► test servers to evaluate that your site [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► is working the way that it should as [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► often as every minute they can check not [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► just that your website is up but that [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► your contact forms are working that your [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► ecommerce checkouts are working that [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► logins are working that search [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► functionality is working just about [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► every part of your site they can test to [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► make sure that it is up and if it breaks [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► they will let you know right away if [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► you're running your own service to sell [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► stuff on the internet you want to know [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► when something's not working when [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► suddenly the money stops without pingdom [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► how are you going to find out i don't [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► know some random customer sends you an [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► email about it [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► 16 hours later to let you know about all [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► of the money that you've been missing [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► out on [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► yeah I guess they'll email you if that [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► contact form on your website is working [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► but maybe that's broken to you [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► want to make sure that this stuff is [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► working because the internet breaks all [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► the time every month kingdom to text [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► around a 13 million outages that's [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► 400,000 problems everyday data centers [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► break you update some part of your [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► website and you don't realize that it [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► breaks some other totally seemingly [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► unrelated but actually deeply [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► interconnected part of your website [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► kingdom detects the outage so you'll [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► immediately be alerted [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► so you can fix the error before it [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► affects you and before it affects your [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► users when someone comes to your website [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► to buy something you want to know that [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► it is up and that is available for them [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► to literally give you money now for [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► listeners of cortex you can get a 14-day [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► free trial when you go to Kingdom [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► dot-com and use offer code cortex but [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► not only is it a 14-day trial you'll [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► also get twenty percent off at checkout [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► kingdom is a new sponsor to cortex so I [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► want to thank them for trying out of the [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► show and also thank you for checking out [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► Kingdom Kingdom com offer code cortex [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► for as long as I've known you there has [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► been something that I've been interested [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► in asking you what is dvorak and why do [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► you use it you know what dvorak is Mike [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► I know what it is it's it's a weird way [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► to arrange a keyboard but I want you to [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► explain to for the people that don't [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► know what it is and then say like what [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► is it it's not a weird way to arrange a [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► keyboard abnormal abnormal would be [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► correct because of course the normal way [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► to arrange keyboard is the so-called [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► qwerty layout where quality is the word [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► on the top left of your keyboard if you [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► can look at a keyboard right now [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► listener that's what you'll see [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► Dvorak is named after a person I think I [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► don't even know what dvorak is an [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► alternate keyboard layout that i have [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► used for a long time and the the primary [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► selling feature of dvorak is that in a [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► qwerty keyboard [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► the letters are arranged in such a way I [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► think so one of the things that's [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► happening very often is like you're [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► alternating hands now there's a whole is [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► a whole lot of I think urban legends [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► around the qwerty keyboard layout that [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► every time I have attempted to [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► investigate mostly seemed like just BS [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► or just so stories that get repeated [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► over and over again like I think the [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► actual origin of this stuff is a bit [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► lost in in time [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► yeah that did the generally accepted [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► reason for the quality of being as it is [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► is it was created so it would stop [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► typewriters from jamming up because in [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► theory the letters would be far away [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► from each other so they would like the [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► little arms whatever the cold wouldn't [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► be hitting each other that's like the [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► generally accepted reason that's usually [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► the thing that you you hear from people [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► i remember looking into it a while ago [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► and when I was thinking about doing a [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► video on this and just not coming to a [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► satisfactory resolution and get that [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► that to me I don't know it it may be [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► true it may not be true but there are [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► some things that my brain always [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► followed files away as suspiciously just [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► so stories because if that is like true [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► that they if like if they're close [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► together they Jem up if your name is [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► Terry you'd hate to use a typewriter [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► I actually have typed on a mechanical [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► typewriter like that and it is a real [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► pain in the butt when when it jams very [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► briefly spent some time in a teaching [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► course where they actually use [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► mechanical typewriters is like you've [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► gotta be kidding me [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► the oldc to be great I'm it mainly just [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► ye olde the school equipment is what [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► actually was [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► oh I use the typewriter is a kid just [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► for fun like there was one in my house [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► it was an electric typewriter that thing [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► granddad had and I used to write a [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► little stories on it but it was before [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► we had a computer like losses in i guess [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► the very early nineties and we didn't [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► have a computer at home so I used to you [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► know as a kid instead of writing out my [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► stories in like Microsoft Word or [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► whatever which my younger brother did I [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► wrote them on an electric typewriter who [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► was fun but typewriter suck because if [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► you make a mistake what you do a lot [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► when you're like four years old you've [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► ruined everything [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► yeah you're you ruin everything xxxxx [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► it's everywhere Yeah Yeah right or you [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► be backspace over it with point out [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► which never looks right like that paper [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► that it slams down is typewriters [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► terrible technology so yeah I I don't [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► know if that's true or not [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► and frankly like of no interest to me [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► whether it's turning out like I don't [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► really care [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► this is also one of those things where [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► it may just be a network effect where [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► there was a keyboard layout it happened [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► to gain a little bit of popularity and [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► that popularity feeds on itself and it [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► becomes a standardized thing and there's [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► not actually any explanation for this [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► right just like okay one of them was [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► going to succeed and this happens to be [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► the one that succeeded end of story [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► there isn't anything to say about it but [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► the Dvorak keyboard is intentionally [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► designed to minimize finger travel and [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► perhaps one of the the best examples of [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► this is if you think on a normal qwerty [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► keyboard and you look where you put your [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► hands on the home row assuming that you [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► can touch-type probably not the most [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► egregious thing on the qwerty keyboard [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► is that underneath your right hand [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► pinkie you have the colon and semicolon [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► key which are probably not super [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► frequently used whereas on the Dvorak [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► keyboard that is the letter S underneath [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► your right hand pinkie and underneath [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► your left hand on the Dvorak keyboard [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► are a whole bunch of vowels it's a 000 e [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► you and I are right there on the home [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► row for your left hand whereas on the [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► court keyboard you have just a and then [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► vowels are kind of spread all over the [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► place so the fundamental idea is that [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► when you are typing words with the [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► Dvorak keyboard the amount that your [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► hands need to move is less than with [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► recording keyboard now get many people [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► who promote dvorak they use all kinds of [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► reasons they talk about how you can type [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► faster on a Dvorak keyboard and I always [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► feel like again this is not really [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► relevant to me that the speed of my [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► typing is not the limiting factor in my [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► life that is not the reason I use a [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► Dvorak keyboard i switched from 42 [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► dvorak [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► many many years ago now back when I was [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► I believe a young sophomore in college [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► here is as best i can remember the gist [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► of what happened i was always as you can [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► imagine quite a nerdy child I loved [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► computers and it would spend all the [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► free time that I could in high school on [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► the computer that the family had in the [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► house when I went off to college I was [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► now free of all constraints right there [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► were there were no parents telling me to [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► get off a computer once you go to [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► college [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► the amount of time that you actually [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► have to spend in classes is much much [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► less which is fantastic and I was on the [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► computer just all the time and then when [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► you add on to this [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► I also as people do in college [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► experimented with linux on my computer [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► and so I was using linux as my main [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► system and I really got into the [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► terminal and like typing all commands on [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► on the computer and doing everything [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► with a non graphical interface even at [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► one point was running a system that just [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► had no guey installed at all like it was [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► everything was just command line i [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► totally loved it i was using emacs and i [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► just i was typing on the computer all of [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► the time all of my free time and over [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► the course of probably about a year and [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► a half that just like recently happened [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► with animation that caught up with me [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► and I had a sudden very bad onset of [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► pain in my hands [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► that just put a screeching halt to my [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► typing and I went to the school nurse [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► and hit like your forearms are horrific [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► lean flip inflamed have you been typing [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► on a computer a lot and of course my [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► answer was well does every single moment [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► of my free time count as a lot like yeah [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► and so of course I still wanted to type [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► on a computer i wasn't going to stop [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► typing on a computer and it just so [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► happened it just lucked out that when I [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► had this bout of real pain in my hands [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► it came exactly at a semester break in [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► university and i had about two or three [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► weeks off from school what I decided to [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► was I took a break from typing on the [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► computer at all for that those couple of [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► weeks and try to relax get my hands back [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► in in normal condition I remember [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► spending would seem like an incredibly [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► long time without a computer just [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► reading books and watching TV and [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► thinking like how mad i really wish i [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► could be on the computer now but i can't [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► after that after that break when I [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► didn't need to type anything when i came [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► back to school I decided I was going to [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► switch keyboard layouts i was going to [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► learn dvorak because i had read that for [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► some people with RSI they find this [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► beneficial and i thought well i have to [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► try something because I'm certainly not [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► going to type less so I need to try to [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► fix this system wise and I switch to a [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► dvorak layout and if anyone has ever [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► tried to do this to try to learn a [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► different keyboard layout the thing that [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► you will experience is this feeling like [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► your brain is broken when you try to [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► type because when you are good at typing [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► on the computer you feel like you're [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► just expressing your thoughts right from [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► your mind and you're feeding it into the [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► computer and then when you switch [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► layouts it's like you've had a stroke [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► and you need to relearn how to walk you [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► know if it's so frustrating you feel [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► like I used to just do this thing [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► without thinking and now suddenly I'm [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► incapable of doing this and because the [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► active typing is the act of thinking [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► it's just this feedback loop of like my [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► brain is broken it's it's very it's a [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► very very frustrating thing to do it's [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► very frustrating to switch that alone [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► though especially for someone like you [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► feels like a reason not to use the Borek [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► right like that that switching because [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► it's not available everywhere is [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► actually not available on the iPad at [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► all and software right unless you [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► against or something external yeah i [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► mean you're talking about like switching [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► costs here is that what you mean by this [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► question yeah because you're switching [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► constantly well okay first of all I mean [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► you're talking about a time long before [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► iPads or even a glint in Steve Jobs eyes [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► at this point i was working with my own [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► person [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► computers and essentially nothing else [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► like I didn't have to use anybody else's [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► computer and so switching over on my [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► computer that i was using all the time [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► was not a big deal i didn't i did not i [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► was in an environment where I didn't [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► have to move back and forth between [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► quality and dvorak I could focus just on [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► my one computer and and just relearning [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► it there and doing everything they're [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► right and and my tip my tip if anybody [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► does want to switch the dvorak I don't [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► know this is the best way to do it but [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► at least is the way i did at the time [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► because I was so frustrated with this [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► feeling like I can't type and i also [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► found trying to do [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► typing programs again with super [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► frustrating you know you can just run [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► any typing program and you change over [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► your keyboard and you like relearn how [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► to type just like you learn to [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► touch-type the first time I I hated that [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► as well I felt god this is just so slow [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► is taking forever I don't have time for [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► the trick that I found that worked [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► beautifully was I printed out a dvorak [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► layout on a on a piece of paper and I [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► taped it to the top of my computer [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► monitor and so what i did was i would [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► look at that piece of paper when I [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► wanted to type and then type on the [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► keyboard that was in front of me and [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► when I did that it took me only about [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► two weeks to get back to basically where [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► I was and it also allowed me to type [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► very slowly but it allowed me to quote [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► touch type on a Dvorak keyboard but just [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► a really slow pace i found that that was [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► the only way I was able to to switch i'm [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► not sure if i had if i try to do it a [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► different way I would have been able to [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► stick with it [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► do you prefer dvorak to quality what do [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► you just switch back and forth third are [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► the same reasons that you switch back [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► and forth between my son trackpads and [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► etc okay well I don't really switch back [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► and forth between quality and dvorak [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► because on all on all of my devices i [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► have it set up to be a Dvorak keyboard [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► so I like my laptop on my computer it's [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► a Dvorak keyboard when I worked in in [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► schools i was able to have [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► the the computers there they were able [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► to just switch over to dvorak keyboards [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► which is by the way also an excellent [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► great way to to stop having kids messing [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► with your computer if you leave it for a [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► few seconds of the keyboard is totally [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► messed up from their perspective they [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► can't type anything it's like it like a [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► security feature i assume when you say [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► that you're changing in software but the [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► hardware keyboards to quality [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► yeah like i am talking to you right now [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► and i am recording I i'm recording on my [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► laptop today and my laptop has a regular [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► qwerty keyboard in it [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► no just the regular 15 inch powerbook [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► and you can't change the keyboard on [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► there a book uh whatever your powerbook [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► running OSX yeah exactly who cares about [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► this doesn't matter anymore iPads at the [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► future [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► yeah i know that i can get on board that [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► train [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► not me i don't care whatever you with [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► your iBooks or something I don't know [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► whatever I see you can't change it in in [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► hardware you can just change it in [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► software and this this is where you have [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► to know how to touch type so you'd if [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► you're looking at the keyboard while you [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► just you just a lock right you can't you [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► can't move around the physical keys on [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► on most modern computers so it is just [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► changed in software so when I worked in [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► school and I would log onto the computer [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► their their windows computers were smart [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► enough that one of the saved preferences [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► for me as a user was to swap around the [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► keyboard layout so that it was dvorak [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► while i was typing but it didn't mean [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► that if anybody else try to type my [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► computer they could take nothing which [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► is fantastic from my perspective I [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► really enjoyed that so what do you do on [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► iOS devices do you use qwerty keyboards [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► and they're doing so like third-party [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► keyboards [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► ok so i guess this is this is the [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► closest it comes to switching which is [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► for the history of iOS you have had to [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► use the inbuilt system keyboard and [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► whatever was last year two years ago [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► they did add custom keyboards but they [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► did it in the most half-hearted way ever [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► and so they just don't really work you [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► can't really rely on them know there are [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► some situations where i will happen to [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► use them but it is extraordinarily rare [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► like oh thanks thanks Apple thanks for [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► that check box feature that just totally [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► doesn't work at all third-party [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► keyboards yeah we have them never want [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► to use them but we have them but I [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► actually never really found this a [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► problem and even when i got an iphone it [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► it didn't really cross my mind about [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► that it was accordingly out versus a [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► dvorak layout because when you're typing [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► on your phone you're typing with your [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► thumb and especially when I first got my [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► iphone 4 which was the first iphone i [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► had i was just typing with one thumb [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► because the screen is so small and so my [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► brain treated this as just a totally [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► different method of input like this is [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► unrelated to touch typing this is a [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► completely separate skill and so [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► learning how to type on an iphone was [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► for me I think the same experience that [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► many people had when they got their [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► first iphone of oh ok this is a [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► different way of typing I have to just [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► learn how to type on this tiny screen [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► and then as time has progressed this is [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► one of the reasons why i use almost [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► exclusively the split keyboard on my [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► smaller iPads on the the not 12-inch [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► iPads because i am really used to typing [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► with my thumb's on an iOS device my [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► brain just says this is the way to type [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► on iOS there is no other way and there's [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► no conflict here in my brain with dvorak [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► for this it's just a totally totally [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► different system however my big ipad pro [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► has brought something interesting to [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► light in my brain which is that my [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► knowledge of how to touch type with [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► qwerty is still there it it's still [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► deeply buried in my brain in a way that [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► is surprising to me because as we [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► complained about when the ipad pro first [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► came out there is no split keyboard on [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► the ipad pro you can't do the thing [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► where it goes into just some typing you [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► have to type with a big full keyboard [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► across the bottom and you can't change [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► around the letters you have to type with [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► a qwerty keyboard on there and they are [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► very [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► situations where for whatever reason I i [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► do end up typing on the glass instead of [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► flipping around the keyboard cover that [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► I do always have attached so sometimes i [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► type on the glass and what I have [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► discovered is if I don't think about it [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► i can totally touch-type quality but for [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► about one sentence of length and after [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► one sentence this thing happens when my [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► brain goes hey you touch typing on a [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► qwerty keyboard and grab for you start [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► overthinking it [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► yeah right like my brain just totally [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► crashes and then for a moment i cannot [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► type and what I have to do is going back [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► to looking at the keyboard and and [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► typing like how I used to when I was a [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► little kid before I learned how to touch [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► type which was like this funny thing [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► that i did with three fingers instead of [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► like a regular one but this happens [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► everytime that if I don't think about it [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► i can type for just a little bit but I [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► will totally notice it and then it's [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► just I can't I can't I just broke me [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► doing this thing but as i find it really [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► funny it's like this there's some part [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► of my brain which never forgot how to do [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► this and was just waiting in waiting [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► dormant for apparently an ipad pro to [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► come around where i had to type with a [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► qwerty keyboard doesn't have one of [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► those things that people say in which [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► like if birds could comprehend the way [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► that they fly they wouldn't be able to [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► fly [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► yeah you like that but with keyboards [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► yeah if you can comprehend quote that [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► you called type anymore [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's it's just a funny thing [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► and it makes me laugh every time and [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► it's one of those moments where you just [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► realize how strange brains are but this [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► is this is just unexpected behavior one [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► it is unexpected that after having not [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► typed on a qwerty keyboard in [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► like 13 to 15 years I can still do it [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► but then if i realize i'm doing it now [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► it doesn't work a crap out like how does [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► this work brain how does this make any [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► sense like how the answer is it doesn't [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► make any sense because brains are weird [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► that's the that's the answer i think i [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► told you this but i never want to touch [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► type [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah so like I can do a bunch of [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► typing without looking at the keyboard [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► but i will make mistakes and most of the [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► time i will just glanced down every now [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► and then to make sure I'm where I need [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► to be [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► look I don't you know I don't have the [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► placement idea you know like we supposed [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► to put your hands to rest easy [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► I don't know any of that I was never [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► taught it i think i was coming into like [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► the first generation school where they [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► didn't teach typing hmm [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► nobody like nobody i knows how to do [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► ok which is so weird because now it's [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► more important [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► ok do you mean that you were like the [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► last generation to not be taught typing [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► is that what you mean yeah I think so [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► okay you know i'm not sure I know what [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► that sentence the same but it sounds [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► legit I am a generation who knew nothing [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► but I think something typing yeah I find [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► that surprising given the age difference [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► between us since you are younger than me [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► I would have assumed that someone your [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► age would just learn touch typing is as [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► part of going through school could [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► because when I did it was an elective [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► that my parents just signed me up for ya [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► they decided that this is a skill you're [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► going to learn you just you just signed [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► up for the typing class and I definitely [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► at the time rejected the idea that i [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► need to go to typing class because i was [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► very fast typing already with this three [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► finger method that I that I use me like [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► looking at the keyboard and just typing [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► very fast and I don't need to learn how [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► to touch type i can totally do this [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► thing but I'm very I'm very glad that I [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► did learn how to touch type against my [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► will as a younger as a younger person [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► yes the i start to the fast three finger [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► method which i still use do you still do [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► yeah like a bunch of a life every code [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► is the same like a hunt and pecker [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► oh really yep i think which is part of [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► like it oh we're generation where it [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► stopped and my understanding that did [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► that you don't typing doesn't exist in [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► schools now i don't know if we have many [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► listeners who are [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► in high school or secondary level but if [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► you are in high school and you listen to [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► the show I would be very curious if in [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► the red you said if you like it do you [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► typing in schools or poor parents who [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► have kids in school now like it is [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► typing an official skill that that your [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► kids learn like touch typing I be [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► curious to know and or do you care [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► yeah that's what I'm more interested [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► about like to do you care if you know [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► how to touch type one of the things that [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► up i was quite struck by when I when I [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► was teaching and towards the later years [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► of of my my limited teaching career all [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► of the kids had either iphones or ipod [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► touches that they were using as proxy [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► iphones you know they were just [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► connected to the local school network [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► and it was a way for parents to get in [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► touch and all the rest of this and I [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► noticed that tons of the kids could do [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► this thing that I would not have [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► believed was possible if I didn't see it [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► which was typing on the screen without [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► looking i can do that see this is this [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► is younger person magic to me while but [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► the thing is though it's not accurate [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► you are helped by auto correct right [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► because but it doesn't matter right here [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► this is like of autocorrect is helping [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► or not it's it doesn't make any [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► difference to me is like a sure what [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► anybody says slightly I know exactly [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► what you're saying but like it is [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► different to touch typing in that there [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► is an assistant which is helping you [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► with it but yeah it's still there still [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► an element of knowing the area in which [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► you have to hit your thumbs [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► mm I tell you what I'm going to do I'm [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► going to set up a Google Form oh yeah to [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► try and find out this information [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► because this is interesting to me now [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► like do you know how to touch type do [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► you care [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► hmm you know what kind of what age [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► bracket are you and can you type on [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► screens about looking do you have any [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► plans to learn so i'm going to set that [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► up i put that in the show notes and when [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► we can we can assess the results of that [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► next time [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► yeah i'll be i'll be very curious to see [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► it but where was coming with us though [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► is that so I saw the kids doing this and [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► i still remember i was asking was this [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► one girl like you are you typing without [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► looking at the screen and she said yeah [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► I can totally like no approved [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► to me like come up here right now like I [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► need to like and I was supposed to be [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► doing physics but this is way more [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► interesting to me and so she [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► demonstrated like yes she could totally [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► do it she could look at me and type a [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► coherent sentence like that's magic I [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► understand how you can do that only [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► cgpgrey the teacher would discover a [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► child in class texting then bring her to [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► the front to find out something he's [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► interested [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► whatever torque can wait i was the loved [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► you man was the load you but I went home [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► to tell my wife this astounding piece of [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► information to to me and discovered that [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► she was surprised that i was surprised [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► that people could do this because this [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► is just what she did and she never even [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► thought about it right just never even [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► crossed your mind that this was a skill [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► of any note whatsoever and as iOS has [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► become increasingly important in my life [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► I went through a long time of trying to [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► learn how to type this way of very [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► consciously like no I i will master this [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► skill that children can do i will type [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► and i will not look at the keyboard and [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► i will look at what i am typing but I i [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► just failed repeatedly i even went so [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► far as I bought the program called like [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► called tap typing I think that's a [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► pretty good typing tutor on iOS and I [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► blocked out a part of my schedule every [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► day to do touch typing lessons with the [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► thumb keyboard on the iphone and with a [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► split keyboard on the ipad and I just [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► could never ever get that skill it was [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► just totally lost to me it was it was [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► totally unavailable [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► it's like trying to learn a language [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► what as an older person for some reason [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► my brain just was not able to pick that [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► up so i just sent to you i just sent you [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► and I message that I title about looking [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► always that what you did [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► uh-huh well aren't you aren't you clever [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► very clever [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► this is this is not nearly as much proof [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► as [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► the girl who did it in front of me in [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► class like you just you just sent me a [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► message this is proof of nothing [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► all you need to do is give me the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► address of your office and I'll country [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► know what can happen [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► let's try let's try Mike we decide how [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► is the office going he still have it [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► this is an interesting point to ask me [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► about this office because so this is my [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► my writing monastery I've set up for [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► myself that we talked about a few [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► episodes ago through entirely my own [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► fault and and dumb mistakes there was a [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► period of a week where I was locked out [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► of my own office because I thought that [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► a bill had been automatically paid when [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► it had not been paid and it took awhile [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► to get this sorted out but I was locked [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► out of my office for a week and I [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► thought well okay i just have to work [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► around this i'm going to try to do what [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► I normally do and go to different places [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► to work and just like I'll just I'll [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► just get on with this and I know is that [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► man my writing ability just plummeted [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► that that this compared to having this [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► regular routine the regular routine [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► increase the amount that i write every [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► day and then not having access to this [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► area and trying to go back to do with [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► the old way [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► granted it's like disruptive but it was [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► still really interesting to see like [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► okay this unintentional experiment has [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► has revealed to me that unambiguously [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► this writing office is totally worth it [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► like without a doubt 100-percent worth [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► so yeah it's um I am able to declare it [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► a success at this point [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► good now but it's a success because it's [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► just me [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► yeah just me nobody else no chairs for [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► Mike you haven't tried out the other way [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► of doing it like me and you it could be [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► so much better [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► I I mean that is true i have not tried [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► out having a mic in my office but I i [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► think the data suggest [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► that that is probably not a a fruitful [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► area of exploration well you should [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► check my data cuz i have the opposite [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► result em done i'm sure you do Mike I'm [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► sure you do on this show we're always [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► talking about side projects and ideas [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► and things that we want to try and these [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► days all of these things need your [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► website and when you have a website you [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► need a great two main name and finding [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► that perfect domain is ridiculously easy [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► with hover when all you're looking to do [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► is get a great domain name for that [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► website or email address you shouldn't [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► be forced page after page of things that [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► you want to opt out of because the [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► companies trying to upsell you stuff [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► that's why however only offers domain [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► and email services so you are able to [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► focus on finding that great domain name [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► to get back to working on your great [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► idea however also believes that you [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► should have to pay for things that [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► should already be included with your [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► domain that's why they give you who is [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► privacy for free with all of their [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► supported domains to keep your [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► information confidential [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► most people have realized that when you [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► register a domain name all of your [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► contact information including your [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► address your phone number email address [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► is published online for people to find [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► and it's all in the whois database [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► however make sure that they keep your [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► private information private by offering [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you who is privacy for free [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► find the perfect domain name for your [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► idea go to Harvard calm and use the [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► promo code dvorak de VOR AKA check out [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► to save ten percent of your first [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► purchase thank you so much harder for [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► their support of this show and relay FM [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► so you know the wheel that never stops [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► turning that we can never get off of [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► Mike what is the name of that wheel is [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► the wheel of email is the wheel of email [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► and email apps [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► yeah that is where is the wheel has [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► stopped today only section [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► so i have been using a new email app for [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► a while and i want to talk about it for [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► two reasons one is that it's an email [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► app that I have hardly ever seen [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► recommended by anybody and 2i am totally [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► loving it so I want to give it a little [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► bit of cortex love right i would like to [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► promote it and tell people about it so [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► that if it sounds like it's for them [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► they can go try it out because aside [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► from the Apple Mail app I have never [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► used an email app that i am just so [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► immediately happy with and and really [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► like and that email app is called uni [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► box [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► ok have you heard of uni box Mike I [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► think someone has sent it to me like is [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► the suggestion and I looked at the [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► screenshots and decided don't want [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► anything to do it so I don't think I'm [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► interested to see what you say because [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► the reason I don't like it is it kind of [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► tries to me to look like it's making [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► email look like I message and I don't [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► want that [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► ok making email look like I message is [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► not necessarily a bad description but [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► here here is the way i would sell uni [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► box and I think there is some portion of [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► our audience when they hear how this [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► works [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► they will think yes i did not know that [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► I wanted this or I didn't know that I [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► want this by just didn't know it was [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► possible and here's the solution so you [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► need boxes selling feature is that it [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► groups all of the messages from a single [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► person together [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► oh listen to that listen to that intake [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► of breath from Mike listen to that [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► listen to that level in it I eat these [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► moments for breakfast [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► Mike doesn't like this for his email [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► tell me why you don't like this Mike [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► know that was a good intake of breath [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► Oh was it yeah I can't read you I don't [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► need you at all you're like a sphinx [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► I'll enigma [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► yeah exactly it's good as in this is [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► I've never really considered this before [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► but I kind of like the sound of it [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► ok so this came up because when i used [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► to do email like so many things on my [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► imac very often i found it was just [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► helpful to sort by sender there's [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► sometimes where you just want to find [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► like oh i know i have a bunch of [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► messages from one person let me just [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► deal with them all together and I [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► thought that was always useful like this [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► was great but then on iOS there's [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► nothing that really reproduces this this [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► seems like it is not an option in very [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► many email apps it's just isn't you [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► can't tell mail dot apt to sort by [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► sender you can't you can't do this it's [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► not it's just not a thing that that is [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► practical but what I really like is that [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► that uni box it's not that they allow [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► you to sort by sender it's that sort by [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► sender is the only thing it does and [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► they have built the entire app around [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► this idea and it's like oh this is [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► fantastic like this is this is really [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► well done [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► so here conceptually is why you might [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► want to do this one of the things we [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► talked about in the show is mode [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► shifting right like what like what kind [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► of work am i doing right now [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► what kind of work am i doing later you [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► know what what mental frame are you in [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► when you're performing a particular task [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► and it is helpful to consolidate mental [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► frames into larger and larger chunks [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► like this is just a more effective way [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► to work [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► and within email one of the things that [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► is often so frustrating about email is [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► that it is this slew of who-knows-what [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► like okay here is a message from my [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► parents here is a message from my lawyer [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► here is a newsletter from someplace that [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► I signed up to a long time ago [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► here's an automated message from my bank [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► right there's just these very very [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► different levels of things like you [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► never know what's coming through but [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► when it's all grouped together by sender [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► you can do [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► it's like there's less mode shifting [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► that can occur and so for me in [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► particular one of the things that i love [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► it i can open up uni box and when you [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► say it makes it makes email look like I [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► message it's because on the side of the [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► screen it does look quite like iMessage [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► it looks like there's a list of of [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► people like you have an iMessage and at [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► the top is the person who has contacted [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► you the most recently and then as you go [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► down the list it's less and less recent [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► but the thing is if you click on the [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► person at the top it will show you all [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► of the messages from that person in one [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► place and so I find it super helpful to [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► say like okay my lawyer has sent me [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► something but when i click on that I [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► want to be able to see all of the [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► messages from my lawyer that I have to [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► deal with right now and then it's like [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► okay i am in the mode of dealing with [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► the kinds of questions this person is [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► going to ask and I can just go okay [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► reply reply reply in or for example of [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► my assistant send me a bunch of stuff i [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► click on her name and it's okay great [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► here are the seven messages that she has [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► sent me since the last time i looked at [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► email and I can just [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► boom-boom-boom-boom-boom go through all [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► of these being in the mindset of i'm [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► replying to her with answers to things [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► about questions that she needs I was [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► like we're just going to go through this [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► and then what's great is I really love [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► it for things like Amazon notifications [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► Iraq amazon sends you messages about [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► next [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► that you bought or whatever here's where [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the building the app around the idea of [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► sender is fantastic because there are [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► little gestures that you can do where [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► you can say something like just archive [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► all of these messages from amazon just [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► all of them at once and so what you're [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► not doing is say answering a message [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► from your lawyer and then seeing a [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► receipt from amazon and then archiving [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► that one message from amazon and then [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► replying to a message from someone else [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► and then again pops up amazon oh yes [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► just archive this one to like no no you [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► just deal with all of them at once and [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► it is fantastic and i think it is it is [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► a really really interestingly designed [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► app and I have to say it's got to be one [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► of the most effective ways to get [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► through email especially with these [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► little gestures where you can just deal [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► with centers all at once i'm a huge huge [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► fan of this [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► alright so let's say that i've sent you [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► an email Monday an email Wednesday in an [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► email on Sunday and then you come to [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► this on sunday and you deal with the [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► sunday message what happens on monday [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► and wednesday messages cuz if they're [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► grouped together by sender isn't it like [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► easy to just miss things because they're [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► not in a thread [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► ok there's a there's a weird little [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► feature that it took me awhile to figure [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► out like with what the hell do you want [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► me to do application and then once I [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► understood it was like oh ok fantastic [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► so there's an iMessage list on the left [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► hand side of the screen where like I [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► said before you can do [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► archive all of these messages you can [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► swipe to the left and you can set [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► whatever the gesture is like just send [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► it all to archive right but if mike has [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► sent me a bunch of messages on the [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► screen where I'm looking you the the [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► message that you sent me most recently [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► let's say you sent me a message [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► yesterday that's up at the top [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► the app has this like hidden feature [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► that was tricky to figure out but if i [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► reply to your message i can then [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► swype just on the subject of your [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► message and perform whatever actions i [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► want to from their kind of what i can do [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► is swipe on the subject and I've set it [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► up so like if I just swipe right it will [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► archive the message i have just replied [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► 2 and then it immediately pulls up the [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► next most recent message that you sent [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► me so just collapse the threads together [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► so like if we're talking about one thing [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► and we've got five emails going back and [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► forth does it keep those together in [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► like one smaller windows you can still [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► see that there's other stuff hiding in [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► the background [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► alright so now if we have if we have had [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► a threaded messages when replying has [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► the same subject line it keeps all of [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► those together and it collapses it [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► visually on screen and there's a little [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► like a little arrow button on the bottom [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► that you can click to expand the entire [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► thread if you need to but you can see [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► the most recent thing for the thread at [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► the top and if you just start scrolling [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► down you can work your way backwards [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► through the thread so it keeps threaded [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► conversations together and then you can [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► perform these swipe gestures on a thread [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► as a bunch if you want to [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► does that make sense you're gonna make [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► me do that thing now where I have to [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► enter in five email account [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► alright sounds interesting this isn't in [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► a different take on email that intrigues [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► me enough that i want to try it [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► yeah what this reminds me of is when we [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► had our conversation about email apps a [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► while ago i mentioned i believe was male [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► pilot to was one of these apps where I [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► don't remember the details now but my [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► feeling was they have designed this [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► around doing email in a different way [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► and if your mind is lined up with this [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► way of dealing with email you're totally [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► going to love this [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► but that it wasn't for me but it was one [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► of those after i could see like you're [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► doing email differently and I think you [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► need a box is made might not be that [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► extreme but it's along those lines of [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► you're thinking about this a little bit [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► differently you're thinking about it in [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► terms of senders and dealing with [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► senders very quickly and having this [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► customizable swiping gestures that are [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► different for like the everything that [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► this person has sent or just this [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► current message and/or thread that [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► you're dealing with but if you can get [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► your mind wrapped around that it's I [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► really really recommend it I have to say [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► it's it's it's a very interesting take [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► on it and it is it is very well done and [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► yes I think that it is worth it for you [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► to put in all of your email apps can [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► also mention i have to mention they have [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► one of the cleverest monetization things [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► I have ever seen in terms of in-app [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► purchases so the app itself is free to [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► try you can use it but if you want to [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► remove the signature that says sent with [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► uni box genius then you have to buy the [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► in-app purchase to remove that signature [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► as a pro feature I pot that was so [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► clever when I saw that I thought this is [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► just it made me smile like that yes this [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► is the exact perfect place for an in-app [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► purchase to go [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► that's if I want to use this thing for [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► free I need to give you free promotion [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► on every email that I send if I don't [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► want to i can pay you money and this [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► unlock this feature like that why i am [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► that get that gets the cgpgrey award for [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► cleverest in-app purchase of 2016 so far [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► I thought it was just fantastic just not [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► do anything wear it like a period alpha [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► everywhere else [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► no it does not okay right this is one of [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► this is also a thing that i like it [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► doesn't have crazy custom folders good [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► it's not doing custom imap crap it's [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► just straight-up you have on inbox and [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► you have an archive and you have a spam [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► folder and that's the only thing that [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► cares about is not doing any custom [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► stuff [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► alright so I've just loaded up my relief [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► my email address into univox who is [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► doing something that I considered to be [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► horrific [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► ok what is it what is it doing every [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► email sent in a long list so i'll have [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► like everybody I don't want to see [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► everybody I wanted to see what I haven't [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► dealt with like that is uncomfortable to [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► ok listener would you just missed my [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► credit i'm going to assume that might [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► put in like a little little transition [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► sound or something but would you just [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► missed was a fascinating moment of Mike [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► and I trying to debug some setting that [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► I'd must have changed but I didn't [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► remember that Mike didn't have when he [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► set up his uni box email for the first [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► time and so we've saved you listening to [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► all of that horror and here is the [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► setting that I changed which I didn't [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► even remember that i did but in settings [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► for uni box there's a thing that is [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► called groups and they have some kind of [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► magic uni box and I disabled their magic [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► uni box exactly what that does [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► I don't know i don't remember i must [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► turn that off because I didn't like it [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► and now mike is using this the way I [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► want him to use this so if you dear [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► listener load of beauty box and you're [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► seeing emails from everybody in the [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► whole world that you have ever contacted [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► you want to turn off muni box and then [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► you will just have messages from people [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► who have contact [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► who have contact [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► did you that are also in your inbox okay [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► Mike now that we're here how's it going [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► this is really weird it is it is super [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► weird it's so super weird that I don't [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► know how when i first downloaded this I [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► stuck with it at first because you can [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► see there's a lot of very strange things [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► right off the bat but i love it it is [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► with that you stuck with this because it [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► is strange and I'm surprised you had the [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► tolerance for there's one thing that I [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► don't like about it [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► it seems that you can't swipe on the [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► group of the person to market message as [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► read or unread and I don't like that [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► ok you have to go into the individual [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► message to do that which is a really [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► weird choice and I'm looking in this [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► website things this is probably also [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► going to come out by the way [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► another example of a thing that was [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► weird that I remember being my deepest [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► frustration with it when i was trying to [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► use it was in the settings there's a [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► level that is called swipes and this is [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► what I was talking about before with [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► gestures where you can swipe to archive [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► all of the message from a particular [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► Center when you tap on the swipes option [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► it gives you two sub-options one of [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► which is contacts and one of which is [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► messages and the this is what you have [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► to understand to make this work and I [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► was so confused with is that you can set [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► different swipe gestures for the list of [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► people that you see on the left-hand [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► side that is what they're calling the [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► contacts swipes and then you can set a [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► separate list of gestures for swiping on [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► the title the subject of a message that [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► you are currently looking at and you can [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► you can arrange those however you want [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► and so the way i have it is so that i [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► can just swipe on the name of a person [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► on the left-hand side and say archive [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► all of the messages from them but I've [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► also set it up so that i can swipe on [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► the subject of a message that i am [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► looking at to immediately reply to that [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► message but it's it's weird and it takes [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► awhile to get set up and talking through [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► mike for all of the stuff that you dear [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► listener have been spared it's reminding [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► me that like yes it took a while for me [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► to figure out what this app wanted and [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► now it seems so natural i totally forgot [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► all of the painful playing around part [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► with it and I've been trying to [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► accelerate Mike past that [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► so like one of the things I'm really [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► struggling with is the choices that they [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► make in the swipes lake on contacts you [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► can choose to mark a message as read [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► live asswipe but it won't let you market [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► again as unread you have to do that on [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► the message i do see that you cannot add [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► a mark as unread message and then [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► it's like why but like they have their [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► in specific way of doing it is is what [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► I'm getting from this is that this app [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► just likes to do things in a strange and [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► kind of weird way [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► yeah and this is what i'm looking at and [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► seeing that this is a different way of [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► doing email to all of your email in this [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► app now [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► alright i have a funny workflow you have [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► a fun who is going to try to avoid this [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► but this since you have brought this up [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► i guess i have to talk through this so [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► the the what I always regard as the [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► absolute killer feature of mail that is [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► no way to get around it for me as is [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► really two things it's VIPs and alerts [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► from particular threads no other email [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► app seems to have this and and if they [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► have it doesn't work in the way that I [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► needed to the ability to mark a contact [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► as a VIP and have that person be pulled [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► out as into a separate inbox from [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► everybody else is invaluable to me so I [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► have a ton of people marked as VIPs and [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► it is also really valuable that if I [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► changed their email in their contact [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► hard like Apple just knows it's the same [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► person they're still a VIP I really wish [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► they would add VIP domains that I could [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► say everybody who sent a message from [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► this domain is a VIP but that's it [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► that's a that's a small feature right [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► the VIP thing is valuable [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► I cannot possibly leave it so this is my [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► current workflow when I am triaging my [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► email [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► step 1 I go to uni box and I look for my [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► assistant [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► I tap on her name and I can answer all [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► of her messages because she is top of [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► the triage priority list once i have [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► cleared her messages then I go over to [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► mail dot app and I start working my way [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► through the VIPs because these are the [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► people i have marked that I want them [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► pulled above the masses of emails that I [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► get largely from people that I don't [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► know or just newsletters are all kinds [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► of other stuff and so I do spend a lot [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► of time in mail because VIP message is [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► almost by definition require a lot of [TS]

01:05:24 ◼   ► time and attention [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► to reply to because they're important [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► things to work through the VIPs and then [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► this is where you need a box really [TS]