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Mike Mike listen it's going at the end
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cut it now put it at the end we'll do it
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do you do that a lot you talk to
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yourself a lot like that the show not
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always been just in case some coloring
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yeah let's see that could be the bumper
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now where you were just talking to
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yourself giving yourself instructions
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that's not gonna happen that could be
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the beginning of the show why not why
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don't you put it there
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haha my future Mike you need to put this
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at the start of the show we did you ever
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think this day would come
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what day is this is how cortex accessory
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though happy cortex Anniversary Mike
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every context refers treating you to a
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great everyone doing this for a year a
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year a whole year do you remember you're
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very strong commitment for ten yeah yeah
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sort of
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yeah those days those days are long gone
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now my friend
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so what is this is episode 30 30
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yeah this is where are very peculiar
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schedule is always going to ruin the
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numbering William right but you know we
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did the first hand on a weekly basis
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right yeah yeah now i won't forget that
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I don't forget that anytime soon
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yeah that was horrific whose idea was
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that it was my idea it was your idea i
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had to be put for the fire to understand
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right like I went through a horrible
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scenario i now know the way to do this
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show is not every week is not every week
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now but yeah we made it we made it and i
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look forward to our next context of
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bursaries that's optimistic
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well I like like to live that way like
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in all seriousness it's great i wasn't
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sure if we would get this far as always
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with podcasts I just assumed that the
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end of all things to discuss is right
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around the corner every episode feels
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like oh this is probably going to be the
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last episode of any podcast ever do like
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what else can there possibly be to talk
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about but there's always more stuff to
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talk about and yeah i think this is gone
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is gone pretty well I'm pretty well
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happy cortex versuri to everyone i did
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not get you flowers
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don't open that possible just so we have
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a much larger response to our
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touch-typing survey than i expected we
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would I haven't looked at any of this
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because I want to wait for the show kind
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of curious to see what you would put
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together you did give me a little
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preview
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yes some of the data and whenever that
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was 24 hours after the show went up
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there were already would seem like a
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huge number of replies so lots of people
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it seems like wanted to share their
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information about when they learned or
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did not learn to touch-type what is the
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final number of people who filled out
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the survey Mike 3944 people have given
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their submissions for the cortex
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touch-typing questionnaire which is the
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water it's a lot it's a lot and the
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reddit thread was ablaze and which ended
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up not being very useful like
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statistically because you cannot do
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anything with all of that right all you
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do is you just see the comments so i was
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really pleased that we have the
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questionnaire because we could actually
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get data which could kind of try and
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give us some answers so what I did was I
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took 2,000 responses and put them into a
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second sheet that i made public to the
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world so people could take that data and
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try and help us understand a little bit
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better because the form on its own
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didn't give me some of the answers that
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I wanted so one that once we started
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getting this data i was like maybe
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interesting if we could break some of it
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down by age right because we had the age
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question in there but i was wondering
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would it be different for older or
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younger people as to how they are such
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as to whether they were taught to touch
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type that kind of thing we got some
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fantastic responses and people doing
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really interesting things with that data
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which are going to put in the show notes
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so you can continue to play around it if
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you want to and take a look for yourself
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but i think the overall points that I
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took away from this is that it seems to
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indicate from our data are completely
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scientific data that the older you are
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the more likely you are to know
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how to touch type and also you're more
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likely to have been taught school glue
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and it also appears that the younger you
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are the more likely you are able to
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touch type on the touchscreen who that
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was i guess everyone's hypothesis right
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yeah but you never know actually never
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not data and there is a much higher
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amount of people in the younger age
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brackets that could touch type or at
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least self-identified as touch-typing
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think that's one part that you know I
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learned a few things in this like if i
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would have thought we would have had the
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size of responses that we did maybe a
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lot of ask some questions differently
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added in some other questions like you
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know what is touch thing to you think
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some people don't look at the keyboard
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but that isn't what i think of as typing
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I think of like that whole method that
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you learn in typing classes i disagree
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with you there
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I totally disagree with you if you can
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type on the keyboard without looking
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that is touch typing as far as I'm
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concerned
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yeah okay now we are I get what you mean
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like I'm just thinking like as a way to
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understand if someone was taught it or
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if they were self-taught I think because
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when I think of like touch typing like
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capitalized I think of like what how you
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are tall in a typing class right as
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opposed to like I cannot look a keyboard
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and type III think they're above
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completely valid I think they come from
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different areas and now i'm interested
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in learning of the people that know did
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they teach themselves you know that kind
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of thing though we have some of that
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like the are you learning and did you
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learn to touch type in schools that is
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still more dated i can dig into it but
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overall it was a very useful exercise
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and we all learned something
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yeah like I'm looking at some of the
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charts that friend of the show
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underscore david smith made and so for
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example on the question did does your
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school offer touch typing lessons that
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peaks for people in the age range of 51
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260 at almost eighty percent right there
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they're saying like yes touch-typing was
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a thing that their school offers and
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then you get down to essentially zero
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221 that age bracket is about
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looks like about forty five percent on
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the chart yeah the slope follows upward
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in that direction so the older you are
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the more likely it is that you learn to
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touch-type school but the one that I
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really like is the question about can
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you touch type on the glass without
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looking
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yep and that peaks for the 17 to 21 year
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old demographic is essentially
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60-percent can type on a glass screen
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without looking which is a higher
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percentage than I would have expected
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his way higher than I would have guessed
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slightly younger is slightly less which
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is a little bit surprising but I can
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kind of see maybe why in retrospect my
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thinking would be the people in the 0 2
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16 bracket have had less experienced
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yeah that was my thought
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afterward as well it's it's a
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combination of less experienced and
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probably less need to do a lot of typing
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yeah but it's still shockingly high at
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fifty-five percent but what love is when
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you get to the 60-plus percent the
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number who can touch-type on a glass
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screen without looking drops to exactly
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zero percent okay yeah that's it's not
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zero rounded off its exactly zero
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percent of people 60 or older so that
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they could type on glass without looking
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and the 51 260 demographic is at just
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barely six percent something that i also
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picked up from looking in the red is it
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seems like typing classes do still exist
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but mainly in America who just from
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looking at people's comments
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it seems that not a lot of people in the
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UK if any are in Europe thought touch
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type but it seems like there are still
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parts of America where it's part of the
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curriculum because it wasn't like
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presenting for everyone who had a lot of
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people saying to me like what your
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schools don't teach it so i will infer
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from that no they do not and that yours
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must do and you are in America so maybe
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there's still some of that going on
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yeah I i think this is interesting i'm
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really glad that you took the time to
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put the survey together because yes as
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you said a a large large number of
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anecdotal answers and read it is
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interesting to read through
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but it's hard to hold out more specific
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yep so this was this was great to have
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the data and the links will be in the
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show notes for people who want to play
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around with it and visualize it further
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than we have done so far today I think
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the only downside from doing this is
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that now i am survey hungry
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what do you mean now I want to do
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surveys for everything so I'm going to
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have to just try and resist myself from
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doing that
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like now I want to know everything about
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how people manage email but I won't do
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it every episode of cortex comes with a
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appropriate survey now I want to a great
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i want to but i want i think if you want
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to put in the time to to construct a
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well-done survey than that I think you
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can go surfing crazy there's nothing
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wrong with that
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I feel it should be tactically deployed
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ok good otherwise we'll have a survey
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fatigue back ok alright i can get anger
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yes how's it going I assume that now
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have definitely move forward on this i
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select people to work with in the future
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how many submissions did you get all
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right what would you guess resolution
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this is a more fun game
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take a guess what do you think 176 wow
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look at you very precise guess there
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because what if I'm right the best thing
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you look like a psychic expect correct
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look at that's a really good number
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manageable number
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guests around 150 because after the
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who submitted from that point on she was
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look and see briefly that there were a
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bunch more submissions after that but
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none of them made it through her barrier
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total number was 150 but the number that
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i actually looked at was 75 and this was
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sympathy for hiring managers and HR
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people in this moment because everything
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all this is going to be
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applications how hard can it possibly be
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tolerable and so my estimation there was
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anything that is tolerable or better
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four videos like your brain just gets
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quick first pass of which ones are
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definitely out and which ones are
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definitely in so I sorted that way and
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applications but so that was that was
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the round one and then I did around to
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further but that's that's how I ended up
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yeah that makes sense to me because i
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better than the one another right yeah
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like whittling it down by like can i
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watch this and it doesn't have my eyes
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instant nose right that that was all
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over what we're trying to do because I
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comparing the thing that you're
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currently watching mentally to the thing
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that you have just watched you're like
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wait a minute that's not that's not what
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this comparison should be at all
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I can't do this just all in one go in
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the way was originally intending yeah so
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it was interesting
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about actual people but
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them were sorted as instant nose and 25
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of them were sorted as tolerable or
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better so that was the round one of the
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applications what happens next
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was that I had to give my brain a couple
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of days to filter that out into kind of
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like okay forget what you've seen and I
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need to come back to this at a later
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point so I gave it i gave it a little
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while because this is where we may
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return to it later but a whole other
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thing happened was distracted my
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attention for a little bit so this has
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gone on a bit longer than i would have
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wanted to otherwise but when i came back
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then I was trying to make a decision
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about their these 25 applications i want
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to narrow this down as much as i can
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again based solely on the animation so
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I'm still looking at all of these things
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as files with just a single numbers i
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don't know anything about the people
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don't know where they are
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I don't know their experience i'm just
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looking at the animations and the second
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round of cutting was up much harder
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thing to do but i did around to that
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took it from 25 down to 10 so that was
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the the second round of trying to figure
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out what's happening and there I was
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looking at many more finer details about
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the animations like out what what
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choices did you make to animate this or
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that some of the things that are very
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hard to articulate is for example
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watching a video is seeing did the
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person get me to laugh when I'm watching
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the video
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did this person do something that
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matches up with my sense of humor
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this is again that's not to say that the
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people that I didn't select weren't
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funny but the question is do they match
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make in a in a
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video right like that's that's what I'm
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looking for their and so yeah it was it
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was it was against surprisingly hard to
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do but it was down to 10 then so what's
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happening now is that my assistant is
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reaching out to those 10 and collecting
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some information that i want to have
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about the applications at this point to
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be able to make some decisions about
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where to go in the future is it seeming
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like that this was the wolf wall
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experiment you were hoping it would be
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I'm feeling pretty good about how this
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has been going
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it's especially interesting to me
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because I am has your recording i am
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process of animating this video I can't
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thinking about how will this be
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I was just really nervous and really
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concerned about the kind of quality of
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applications that i was going to get and
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now now being future me who has seen the
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applications i have to say that the
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average quality of application was much
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higher than i was expecting which to me
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ok I'm glad to see that there are lots
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of skilled people in here
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yeah and even i just i do have to say
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animators like without a doubt i
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living I like just but just the average
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where it starts to come down to again
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skill but it's their understanding of
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your style which is to the point i guess
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undoubtedly good like they're very good
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they just made decisions that I don't
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agree with for my own style and it's
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just a strange position to be in but
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quality of the submissions and in my
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that I'm currently working on
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it's a huge relief to know that in the
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future i will almost certainly be
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working with someone to help make this
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tell that i am still not fully recovered
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from some of the RSI problems I had the
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last video the video prior to that like
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just totally ignore that but still
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produce very interesting work and so I
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better at animating is like no no see
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not look like his style at all and so
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different way maybe there's a way that
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that it has
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rotating styles that just like in the
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videos the star trek videos like maybe
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styles you already do have different
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styles so attracted like you have the
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like the slideshow e-type ones
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it's like the royal family tree and the
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political ones like the voting ones then
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you also have like great explains where
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it's little stick figure guide talking
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right or you go like full-on stop for
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edge 15-minute mini-documentary right so
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what you are saying right now is the
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thing that everybody i have spoken to
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says write back to me like you know you
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already do this right
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look at you don't you don't actually
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have a single style that every single
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video looks like you already do this and
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so part of me feels like that is quite
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naturally the solution going forward
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that the people that I am working with
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might end up just having their own style
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so I have a couple of different looking
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things on the channel but now the only
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thing that's different is that it is
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other people who have made them it is
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not me because from my perspective since
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i have made all the videos I think I
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over assume their visual similarity to
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the viewer because i have made them if
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you see what if you see what I mean and
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saying like oh if I've other people
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doing different things it'll look just
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crazy different every single video but I
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i imagine that that is largely the
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experience of the viewer already check
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go back earlier in the channel like
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there's tons of videos that don't even
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that don't even have that what now feels
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totally missing from probably half of my
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videos i'm gonna say i tip my hat to
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yeah what do you mean it's supposed to
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move it is it is a total ballsy move and
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creativity which and confidence which
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could be beneficial
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those people were confident
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nothing their own style and their own
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ability that they could create something
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that was different even though you
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explicitly asked for the same yeah and
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this is this is kind of what I was I was
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getting at last time we were talking
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about talents but I still want to be a
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little bit indirect about it that the
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people who are going to do that they're
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just going to do that anyway
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yeah right this is faithful even the
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permeability which they should write you
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know sometimes that goes terribly wrong
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I did I did reject very quickly some
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videos that made that move oh but in a
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way like now this is this is not going
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to work
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yeah it is it is the daring move and
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it's it's an interesting move and it's
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like I said who I was anticipating that
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this would happen but I i wasn't going
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to bank on it as a one hundred percent
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certainty
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hey so a couple of times you have
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mentioned that something kept you busy
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like he said that you had to take some
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days off because you were busy central
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mosque was going on over there
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we then you know just just gray
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industries and such a such a massive
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global venture there's always there's
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always something going on those will
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just keep on turnin huh yeah they do I
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just I had an experience which was again
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we're having started this process of
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trying to get someone as an animator for
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the youtube channel and also the the
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thing that happened before with us where
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you helped me get an editor for hello
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internet like having those two
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experiences have turned out to be
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extremely useful in in the past two
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weeks because related to hiring i was
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able to do with thing that I know eight
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weeks ago would have seemed like an
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incredible difficult task but now became
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a thing that I just did in between shows
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without really mentioning it
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hero which was i I had a thing that I
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needed to do for the company i'm not
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going to specify what that thing is i
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will let people in the reddit speculate
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because people have speculated
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but basically i had a project that
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needed to get done and sort of
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unexpectedly needed to get done and I
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thought okay this is I'm like a person
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who tries to find freelancers to work
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with now I can do this let me see if I
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can just quickly get some people to do
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this thing for me and so I was really
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pleased that i had this thing that need
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to be done
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I wrote up a basic job description of
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what needed to occur i passed off the
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relevant information about here are the
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key characteristics of what i'm looking
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for to my personal assistant
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candidates who matched these various
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criteria
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she gave me a short list of five people
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people I then had three people work on a
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thing simultaneously as a test for each
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of them and then two of those three
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people worked out with doing this thing
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precisely the way that I needed to be
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done and so now i have to freelancers to
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be able to call on for particular task
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we need to get done and I feel like this
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thing just happened it was like boom
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boom boom boom here's another time where
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I feel like I'm being a CEO there's a
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thing I need done
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oh I have people to help me with hiring
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i'm going to make some decisions about
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the individuals i'm going to pay people
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to do this work and then i'm going to be
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able to see right away if it was done
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properly and it was just done it was
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just a thing was like done sorted solves
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would never have happened that would
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have been a huge disaster and huge time
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sink much more than it was just for a
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couple of days so yeah there was that
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was good good experience Mike wow ok you
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yeah I don't think this process take
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from start to finish it was probably
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three days but it was also a relatively
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small amount of my time and attention
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yeah it was a bit of a panicky think it
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needs to be done straight away which is
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why it diverted my mental attention but
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in terms of the actual amount of time
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that I spent it was relatively small and
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I think I just think like this was is
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just an interesting thing to occur and
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was one of the ways
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in which I don't know people change over
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time and again this would have just been
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a much more difficult task a long time
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ago this would have been horrible for
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you a couple of months ago you would
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have done everything you could to avoid
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this process is perfect right right I've
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like admitting that you needed help
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right and then trying to go out to the
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open world to find it right then judging
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the work and dealing with people like
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that it's like everything he gets
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year of less as with so many of these
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things of me trying to do less and when
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need someone to help with this task I
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me try to find one person and i'll test
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one person and i'll do that like but now
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wait this needs to be done quickly and
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so this also goes back to the
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spreadsheet that I still need to help
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you make at some point Mike I was able
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to kind of think about this as this is a
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thing that I need solved quickly what is
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like what is the cost calculation of
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having three people just do it if I just
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pay them to do it and using that
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essentially as also the job application
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was like okay well the return on
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investment for this from a business
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perspective says just do it like you
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need this thing done quickly and the
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cost to trying to do it sequentially
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doesn't make sense
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it was an interesting way to realize of
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of how to try to solve a problem
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relatively quickly in a very i am
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thinking about this as a CEO i am not
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thinking about this as me a person
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trying to solve a problem so yeah cortex
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changing lives even mine
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today's episode of cortex is also
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great what is kool Mac are you thinking
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about switching keyboard layouts Mike
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know I've just come across a word I've
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never heard before
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it's not a feedback callback is better
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you should try call Mac that's what I've
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like this there's mac vs pc okay we're
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these things go on forever and ever and
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mention that there
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you have many options right and people
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everything everything devolves into
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these kind of little Wars but the answer
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another alternative keyboard just as
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dvorak is designed to minimize finger
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movement commack is also designed to
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minimize finger movement but my
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optimized to be easier to switch to so
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that when it was being designed the
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question was not let's minimize the
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amount of finger travel the question was
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let's minimize the amount of finger
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travel and also minimize the amount of
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keys that were actually going to move
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yeah i'm looking at a layout now and
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it's very similar very similar
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mm so the standard copy cut paste keys
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everybody in the world uses those are
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not moved on purpose because everybody
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has that just burned into their brain
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other frequent keys that are not moved
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simpler we have Y using OS 10 it would
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be better
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yeah sure that one too because i took
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the Q and W are in the same place like
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to quit and close windows and stuff like
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that i can see how like especially as a
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switch to connect
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yeah but my feeling is for its been
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funny have been getting a lot of how
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people telling me that they have decided
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to switch and that they now understand
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the feeling like you had a stroke
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yeah it's like oh god that was not a
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joke that is legitimately the feeling of
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trying to type on the nuke
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word layout as required to use are
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looking at the four acts it's it's like
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a nightmare like everything it just
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looks horrific it's all over the place
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yeah I like the people that have also
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seen a couple of people that sent in
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that offend a few people have taken my
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the need to be emphasized other possibly
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too late for many that i don't i don't
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promote switching just for funsies
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ok I think you need a really good reason
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because it's the more efficient layout i
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hit if you you need to switch the dvorak
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do so not not 40 it'll be a little
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faster or it's a little bit more
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efficient like that i think that is not
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good enough for the transition costs I
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of people in the world that it actually
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would affect to have more efficiency
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with time exactly is it
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what sort of difference you're looking
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at here if you're going to double your
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typing speed it might be good right but
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you're not so you're not doing that
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yeah and so the amount of time you lose
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over a couple of months getting back
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your regular typing speed you're never
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going to recover that over the course of
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the whole rest of your life because
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been kind of rattling around my brain
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that I'm not sure that I fully
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understand from our discussion last week
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is why changing keyboard layout would
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have helped your hands just still making
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the same movements right just in
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different locations
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yeah it's in like this is why this is
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why i'm at like a reluctance dvorak
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promoter and and barely even a dvorak
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motor because last week would have been
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different
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soliloquy i think if you listen back
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last time if you didn't cut it
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I i did say something like all i know is
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that when i switch to dvorak i stopped
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having problems that that is a
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very different statement from dvorak
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will solve all of your problems and make
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all of your dreams come true now i could
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just cut that section and just use that
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pop but you guys FF this is the problem
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with you doing yet huh
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I imagine it was a it was a combination
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of many things at the time I think it
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was certainly a combination of taking a
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big break from typing when I had a
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problem i think it was almost certainly
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being forced to get back into typing
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very slowly because i wasn't able to
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type very quickly and then I think those
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path and then now that I type with
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dvorak i think that the amount i am
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moving my hands is now under the
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threshold that would cause me RSI
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problems right whereas before with
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qwerty i think it was over the threshold
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but i may not be representative of the
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general population it is very possible
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that i am right on the edge with that
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kind of thing whereas everybody with RSI
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problems they have some threshold some
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people's thresholds are naturally hire
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some people thresholds are naturally
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lower and that is going to affect what
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helps you or what doesn't help you and
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so I i suspect that typing wise i was
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right on some threshold we're changing
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to dvorak switched but if your
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sensitivity to our side problems is very
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high switching to dvorak might not help
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you at all right it might just cost you
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some time and not be beneficial
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so that that's why i always try to be
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really careful when I talk about it like
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it helped me but I'm not sure that I can
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universally recommend it though i would
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say if you are having RSI problems
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it doesn't necessarily hurt to try
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like it because what else are you going
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to do you can try different split
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keyboard like there's a bunch of stuff
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that you can try and dvorak is one of
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those tools and
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i know i've i've used split keyboard
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stuff but I I think switching the layout
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was was the thing that worked well for
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me but I am NOT a doctor did not play
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one on a podcast all I will say is with
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the commack people i don't know how much
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easier it is to actually switch to
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commack my suspicion is that if you can
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get dvorak or you're going to commack
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either way you're going to feel like
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you've had a stroke
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I can't imagine it's going to be that
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much of a difference so i think that the
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thing that really matters is just
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knowing that whatever device you are
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going to use has software level support
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for the keyboard that you were going to
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use like that is the primary feature
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okay Mike last week I told you about the
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one true email app which is Uni box and
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i would like to know if you have tried
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it since then i have set up unit box or
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my devices today and I've played with it
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then I can see a utility for it but i
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don't think i will use it as much as you
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I know exactly when I will use unity box
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when is that when i go on trips
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ok so why why on trips versus other
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times what was your thinking here so
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when I'm when I one trips this can be
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vacations or work trips i have less time
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to devote to email so whenever I do open
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my email inbox i would like to be able
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very likely that you know if I'm not
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looking email for a few days I might
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people and they'll be grouped together
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in your box and it's a better way I
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get a view of
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what is happening which is why I also
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your style of email because that's kind
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of how you mean it sounds like I'm
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this this is how you kind of always do
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it build up then you go in and you drop
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email from maybe one person
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yeah and that's what makes your
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situation different to most of the
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yeah this was something which someone
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the reddit left a comment along the
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lines like you need a box is the perfect
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email app if you only check your email
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once a week that is very accurate
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I I realized in retrospect I think i had
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yes of course that is exactly the
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purpose of this email app is if you are
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checking your email all the time the
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very feature that it is built around
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sort by sender is almost entirely
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useless to you
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week and then for as little time is
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more than just sort by sender that makes
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it useless the grouping yeah you know
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because i think you can have other apps
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i know you've tried not may do it but
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sort by sender is anything to do is just
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a different way to sort the inbox but it
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the same person even if it's a different
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thread together that's that's a whole
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different scenario
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yeah and that's that's what I thought I
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totally love about it i applaud doing it
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this way right that you have a a way of
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wanting to manage email that is
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different and going for it
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I wish that more apps would do that in
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all honesty like find of thing that
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works for you and go for it like it was
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one of the things that I loved about
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mailbox right like the idea of mailbox
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was focused around
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what they referred to as inbox zero with
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you is like a real twist on what it
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actually started out as being their idea
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was clear the email from your inbox
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whether you are marking it is to do
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using it for later answering it or
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archiving it but like at the end of the
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day have nothing in there and I like the
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whole app was built around that ideology
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whether it's right or wrong like that
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was the way that they built their
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application and that's what I also liked
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about you know box and I wish that more
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email applications would come with some
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kind of overriding like theory to them
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write some design philosophy on around
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you know how should you handle messages
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yep and that is exactly what my new
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email and password which is do
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everything to them i think is the
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overall theory of air mail
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how have you played of ml on iOS yes i
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have played with airmail it is the it's
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the white icon things like the white
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envelope is that it yeah has an envelope
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on it you know what I mean yeah i dunno
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ok that is what the envelope is thin
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blue line that airmail you know what
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you've done to me i just said envelope
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yeah should be envelope ok Oh terrible
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this is what happens when you talk to
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Americans are doing well I know mobile
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mobile envelopes
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this is just accent drift there's
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there's no way to avoid this
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I know you can you can hear this in my
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if you go back and you listen to my
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early videos like you go back and you
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listen to that you can explain video the
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very first 1i sound like a totally
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different person because that was the me
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who spoke to british people all day long
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right my accent drifted in the opposite
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way and then since I left schools and
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don't talk to british people all day
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long my accent has very naturally just
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drifted back that's much more towards
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the normal American I wouldn't have
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expected that to happen in schools I
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think it's worse because you're aiming
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when you're talking in front of children
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to be non distracting and so I was
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actually very conscious particularly
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when i was teaching of having a much
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softened
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version of my American accent right
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that's exactly my thinking with my
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accent yeah i soften it down for the
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Americans exactly because otherwise the
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Americans will go home LOL listen to the
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way you said that word right that's it
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so you learn you have to talk in a
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certain way to not distract your
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American co-host
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uh-huh is that isn't that what happens
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yep that's exactly my thinking anyway
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that's accented it happens to everybody
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there's no way around it and you are
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just in the funny situation that even
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though you live in the united kingdom
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the vast majority of words you speak at
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this point are two non-british people i
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mean it has to be the case right
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oh yeah well because i tend to speak to
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either American people while remaining
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in person
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exactly that's what i was thinking right
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is that you do not even you're not even
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normalizing back at home
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normalizing back at home
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there's you you're being pulled in an
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entirely other way back at home so yeah
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that's it should be no surprise that you
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were saying on and have the envelope
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envelope with an envelope envelope
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ok extent of envelope so just after we
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recorded our last episode in canvas
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which is another showing real life and
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you know which is kind of iOS focused
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they did a whole big episode about
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third-party email clients and Federico
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was really pushing air mail and he had
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previously read a big review about it
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and I decided to check it out and I like
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it a lot
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I like it a lot hum it is rough around
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the edges in places like it does some
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weird stuff like it has some weird bugs
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and there's some UI stuff that I'm not
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massively keen on but I feel like and
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I've heard there's gonna be some changes
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which would be a bit nicer for my eyes
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but it also does the custom imap
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screwing around thing that's I just
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realized that's why no air mail because
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I've been trying to delete their custom
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I'm app folders from my setup for a
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while and they keep coming back because
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it must be installed somewhere that I
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don't know where its waking up every
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once in awhile
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yeah because it will do snoozing and
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stuff but i don't use any of it like it
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sets them up but if you just don't go
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buy into that it will just they just
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live there as empty labels who but what
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I really like about this application is
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it has tons of third-party integrations
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so like I'm very easily able to take an
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email and send it to only focus will
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openly focus attach the whole text of
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the emails and note which is so call me
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so let's say somebody sends me ad copy i
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can add the whole copy that they sent me
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to the OmniFocus note reminding me to
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write it up
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yeah yeah that kind of thing is is
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really nice to be able to do they can
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send it there's just so many services
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that plugs into and also can do really
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powerful things with the email messages
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like turn them into pdfs em it has
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something I've never seen any email app
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do in that you can take an email and
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save it in a folder in another email
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account
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what say you receive so you have
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multiple email accounts
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ok and you get an email to see to be
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great one gmail.com right but really you
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would like to save it and folded it you
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haven't CGP grey three @ gmail.com
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ok it will let you take that email and
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save it in a folder in the other email
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account like it doesn't crazy stuff like
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sending them around but it's just ok
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it's just a weird feature that I've
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really like because this feels like an
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app that is made by people who deal with
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lots of email who so it has all these
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crazy little things that you can do and
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they just had a new mac app update come
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out and so this is an all-around system
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which is all of my platforms and if I
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want to I can snooze emails but i'm not
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getting back into that now
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right because I've learned to live
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without it and I've really liked it and
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it has one of my very favorite things
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and it does it so well on all my devices
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and this is my main reason seriously for
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for sticking with this way if i can
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remember it was email notifications is
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that right now that was our last
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notifications which is fine enough
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remember notifications driving you crazy
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that you used to have have an email app
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setup solely for the notifications that
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was at that was a one-time yeah but I
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told the date notifications so good you
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can choose to pull down and read the
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entire email message
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nice which I really like that but no my
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favorite feature is you can choose this
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it does not mark an email as read until
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it is opened acted upon
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oh and acted upon yes that's nice that's
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a nice touch
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so because i am constantly in all of my
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email is opening a message and marking
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it as unread again and that drives me
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crazy because I like to leave messages
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as unread who until I do something with
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them who and then sometimes I'll
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purposely mark them as read do something
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with the email but leave it in my inbox
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that something need to catch up on but
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it's not unread email anymore so that's
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my own weird system but i like that has
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that feature and it has a bunch of
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different things that it will do but I
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yeah I really like this application
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tons of settings tons every setting so
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you can really go in and if you're
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willing to put the time in and kind of
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make this the email that you want to be
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I'm really impressive is great so what
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do you think you have found an email
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home i think so that's that's very nice
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plus they charge for the application it
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but right yeah I'm with you on this one
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as well I get nervous when apps don't
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charge it feels like but if you're
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important to me i would like to give you
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money when you have to be more money
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than you're charging because i want you
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to be around
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yep so that's charging is a feature for
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important apps i think that's get you
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are with airmail you may have found a
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home there and since we did that the
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last show where I was promoting unity
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box someone pointed out to me at an
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additional feature of uni box which has
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now allowed it to become my only email
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app the last time i mentioned i had this
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funny workflow of slipping into mail for
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VIPs and then flipping back but someone
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sent to me that there's a feature on the
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message list where you can pull down and
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have it only show messages from people
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who are in your contact book and that's
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not exactly the same as VIPs but it's a
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to me it's like a seventy percent
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solution it's good enough that if I can
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do this then I don't have to bother
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flipping back into mail dot app and
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using a different interface so now i can
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just do my entire workflow in uni box in
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one interface in one place and I'm very
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happy so I have found an email home and
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you have found an email home for now
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anyway because the we always keep
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starting oh yeah this it's the Great
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Wheel of email ya in a week whether you
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will be complaining about it again look
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at it in context episode 1 i'm looking
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at my home screen a completely different
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email application to I'm using now the
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application on my home screen doesn't
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even exist anymore
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at that ugly ugly home screen
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restinpeace little buddy think about how
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much better your life is after you've
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met me you think that was a worthy
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cortex anniversary episode Mike well I
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mean we spoke about email
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yep I guess it's an excellent point
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email is central to all of the all of
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the work that occurs in our lives so i
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think so i think i think may be right
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well yeah it's kind of perfect because
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the gift for first anniversary is paper
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and emails are just electronic paper
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that's the traditional gift clock to the
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modern gift
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what do you mean
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