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Cortex 34: Punch Card System

 

00:00:00   the last time on the show we debuted are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   two spin-off shows cortex and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2">TS</a>]

00:00:05   wondered if you had happened upon the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5">TS</a>]

00:00:06   artwork that has been created for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08   two shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/8">TS</a>]

00:00:09   we're nearly there now for lunch is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/9">TS</a>]

00:00:13   all that's required for a new podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   just simply some fantastic artwork is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   that the is that the first step towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   making a new podcast once the artwork is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   made and if the artwork is good at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   point you have to do the show because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   you got the artwork that's the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/26">TS</a>]

00:00:27   look at it anyway that is not the way i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   look at it but I like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   cortech caretech artwork but just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   clear in my terms of service this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   not obligate me to actually doing new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/37">TS</a>]

00:00:38   shows is just step one now is it step 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/38">TS</a>]

00:00:43   Mike have you seen this mechanical ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/43">TS</a>]

00:00:50   pro keyboard that's been going around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   the internet last few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   why indeed i have Mike indeed I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   it's made by razr and razr they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00   like gaming pcs right like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   peripherals I think more of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   gaming company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/64">TS</a>]

00:01:05   yeah they make very cool-looking gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   peripheries yeah they're they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   awesome looking stuff like we have lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   of lights and so customizable and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   lots of crazy stuff you can do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   yep lots of green and blue neon you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   you can't have a really solid piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   gaming equipment unless it is neon green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   or blue today I'm looking at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   website right now at the razer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   blackwidow chroma against an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   name with that I have never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   something so insane just go to this URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   and just check out the gif that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/95">TS</a>]

00:01:38   got running at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   ok let me look at this thing rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/100">TS</a>]

00:01:44   nobody needs that computer to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   you are actually maybe everybody does i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/106">TS</a>]

00:01:50   think everybody does 444 listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   it's a it's a keyboard the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   they're calling it the chrome eyes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57   looks like it it will dance rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   colors across and around all of the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   that they must have a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/123">TS</a>]

00:02:04   leds behind all of the keys so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   dancing rainbow across your keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   looks awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   yeah I kind of want this is this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   they get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   exactly i have i have been on their site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   i have known about them because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17   once in a while remember some piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   gaming equipment or gear and i'll look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   at their website don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   whoo-hoo it all looks so cool i've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   actually bought look I just don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   any real need for this stuff but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   always very tempting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   well i have often considered a gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   mouse who and a friend of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/151">TS</a>]

00:02:35   underscore David Smith suggested this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   me when I was having RSI problems you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   know because the programmable buttons a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   way out easier to to trigger and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   made for that so I've considered it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   you know one of those ones that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47   looks like basically buttons have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   vomited onto the mouse and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   considered it but I haven't done yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   just because I love my my wacom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   tripod set up so much but if I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   decide to go back to mice again I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   gonna look into gaming mice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   that's what I also i also like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   names they have the deathadder chroma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/183">TS</a>]

00:03:06   haha another name for a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   there's the Diamondback there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   abyss and these are fantastic names as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   well yeah thatthat's the deathadder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/193">TS</a>]

00:03:17   chroma is an ergonomic mouse to how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   you know how can you not but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   got rainbow leds in it are ma'am don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25   get the drive everyone crazy you get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   just get it take you to a co-working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   space you get the chroma key board and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   the current mouse and you just having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   little raven the corner the or Boris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   wireless gaming mouse that looks pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/216">TS</a>]

00:03:37   look at this thing i have to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38   how you know you're in a gaming website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   when all of the photos of the mice have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43   cords on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44   yes yeah that's that's how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   you're looking at gaming peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   right oh I don't like this one it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   snake ever look at it so it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   badass transformer amount it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   Batman's mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56   yeah it looks like it looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   Batmobile in terms of a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   yeah i kinda want this one now right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   was taking lots of sharp edges to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   your hands but it doesn't matter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/245">TS</a>]

00:04:06   you're gaming pro but uh but this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   doesn't have rainbow leds on it so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11   but it comes with the snake apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   if the picture is to be believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   I don't commit really wanted anyway see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/254">TS</a>]

00:04:19   what this is this is we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20   distracted by all of follow the crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   looking gamer gear you can't help but be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   distracted so razor have made a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/264">TS</a>]

00:04:29   case for the ipad pro 12.9 inch where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/269">TS</a>]

00:04:33   the keyboard side of the case features a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   mechanical switch keyboard that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   have created it is a mechanical key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   design of their own design as ultra low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   profile right it's not the big huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   clicking keyboard like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   demonstrate clicky keyboard for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   listener great okay this is me typing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   keyboard i don't know if you can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   that we can hear like that has a deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   switch on it right like this that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   don't like some homeless to it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   expect that this isn't that i'll put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   link in the show notes to a video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   Austin evidence did on youtube kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02   testing it out and you can kind of hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   it and it basically sounds like a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   keyboard right yeah and it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   it's got a bit more travel on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   thicker but the thing that interests me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   the most about this is it comes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   like them stand there like two parts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   keyboard part which can be detached from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   the stand / case part and the case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   sound on the case can be put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   multiple different viewing angles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   that's what interests me who because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/325">TS</a>]

00:05:28   this mark keyboards they have terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/328">TS</a>]

00:05:32   viewing angles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   yeah it's this is one of those products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   that I'm interested in but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/336">TS</a>]

00:05:41   totally just have to handle it in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   and picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   yeah because it's just him that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   no amount of the most amazing video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   review of this thing doesn't convey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   information that you need to know yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   with a keyboard so much of it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   feel of it and how much do you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   like typing on the thing how much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   are those mechanical switches i got it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   might who knows I might actually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   like typing on a mechanical keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   that has very low travel maybe my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   is super used to the idea of clicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   switches have huge amounts of travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   like you know my keyboard it has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/374">TS</a>]

00:06:17   of depth when i press each of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/377">TS</a>]

00:06:18   buttons is also questions of weight i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21   just have to say I think it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   interesting product i think it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/382">TS</a>]

00:06:26   interesting that a company is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29   estimating that there is a market for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   this that they put the money into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   product development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   exactly that that's what i find is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   interesting about this and what I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   like about this is I feel like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   little indication of companies willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   to do crazy extra stuff for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/403">TS</a>]

00:06:49   pro-market using the big ipad pro yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   the guy I'm glad this thing exists i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   would love to try it out in person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   see what it is like but I'm even gladder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   that someone is willing to roll the dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   on this thinking there might actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04   a market of people who want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   mechanical keyboard for their ipad bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   yep I don't think I want this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   that the smart keyboard is fine for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   but i do want to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   look I don't like that it will be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   thick and so heavy like it will be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   carrying a laptop instead of an ipad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   I i'm interested in giving it a go but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   it isn't easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   he doesn't seem easier to get my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   on all these to try like if it was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   amazon but it's not right now at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   in the UK and I would just got excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   beer in a day and I could return it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36   other than that like I'm gonna keep my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   eye on the electronic stores when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   out and about to see if they got one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   there you know so i can actually track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   typing on it i could tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   probably won't have it which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   apple store be very surprised at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   apple store carries this which it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   because this is a pro accessory for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/469">TS</a>]

00:07:52   their product but I think Apple probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   doesn't like that they're not using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   smart connected they could be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   yeah but the bluetooth is a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   feature that because it allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   have this screen disconnected from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   keyboard and for years and years when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/484">TS</a>]

00:08:07   was writing on my iPad before smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   keyboard covers and ipad pros existed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   was using a bluetooth keyboard with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   ipad and that was a really great feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   being able to separate the screen from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   the keyboard to not have to have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   hands right up against the edge of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/500">TS</a>]

00:08:21   and met that's what they actually do get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   kind of annoyed with some apps on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/504">TS</a>]

00:08:25   iPad pro of how you are typing at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28   very bottom of the screen and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   you're your own hands can get in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   of looking at the words that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   trying to type so sometimes it's nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   have a bit of space between the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/515">TS</a>]

00:08:36   and the keyboard so using bluetooth like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   I could actually see them sitting in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   in a meeting room somewhere and deciding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   entirely not for licensing reasons or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/523">TS</a>]

00:08:46   anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   but they want to go bluetooth for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   feature that they don't want to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   Smart connector I think part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   reason mind on the Bluetooth because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   they wanted the keys to be backlit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   if you need the keys to be back late has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   to have a battery and anyway so might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   well go to put you through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   right exactly are you you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   down you have to go down this path I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   suspect that the weight in this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   would be a killer for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09   yeah because i think i think the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/549">TS</a>]

00:09:14   pro is already right on the edge of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   I'm willing to carry around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17   I agree so that like this past summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/557">TS</a>]

00:09:20   when i was doing all of my travels I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   using primarily the ipad pro and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   am traveling i don't normally do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   when I'm traveling I put the the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   case on the ipad pro that whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   like the silicon-silicon back case think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   the super expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   yeah yeah yeahs the ridiculous one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   that does fit very nicely with the smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   keyboard cover and I do that mainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   because i'm thinking i'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   moving this thing around a lot i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   traveling and this is this is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   like I vastly increase the probability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   of dropping this and so I want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   bit more protection but I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   aware that the ipad pro with the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   case and the keyboard cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59   I don't want to carry a thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   grams heavier than that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   absolutely right at the edge of what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   want to be carrying around anyway yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   whenever I take the keyboard cover our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/606">TS</a>]

00:10:07   family surprised how light is MH which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/607">TS</a>]

00:10:11   is frustrating but it's just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12   it's so much material which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   brings me on to another question that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   have that you probably know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   going to ask you here to picture the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   other day of your speed your baby pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/620">TS</a>]

00:10:24   sitting in the keyboard cover of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   Pro yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/627">TS</a>]

00:10:28   wait wait then i'm typing comfortably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   that's what I'm doing to you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32   tried of like for a long period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   the smaller 9.7 keyboard cover yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   I identified I definitely did I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   the smaller keyboard cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   it's fine it's totally fine but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/640">TS</a>]

00:10:45   prefer to use the bigger one right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   why don't you just use a bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   keyboard like if in this scenario why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   you using the case i'm using the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   because that that particular ipad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/654">TS</a>]

00:10:57   little the little baby pro I'm often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/657">TS</a>]

00:10:58   just using it on the couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   and it's really comfortable sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   the couch while watching TV to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   full-size keyboard cover to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   thing in my lap to type on like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/667">TS</a>]

00:11:08   just it's very convenient to single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   little piece plus with the keyboard case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   i don't have to worry about charging it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   its i just find it's a very comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   experience and and i want to reiterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   again that whoever is on the design team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   for the the keyboard cases for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   ipads it isn't it's an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   incredible job without a doubt that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   the keyboard that I type of the most on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   is is like that that keyboard cover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/690">TS</a>]

00:11:34   I just absolutely love it like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/694">TS</a>]

00:11:38   it's a really fantastic keyboard say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41   use them both right because my ipad pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   at both in the cases typically bookcases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   and I love both keyboards I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   they're both great it is more cramped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   than 9.71 but you just readjust to Italy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   surprisingly fast i can go from one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   the other and value even notice you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   I just really really really wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   would give me a UK layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   I don't know why it's so difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   them to do this but they haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   this and it's nearly been a year now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   no no it's not my problem American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   layout is clearly superior at return key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   know sometimes no no it's the chumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   it's easy it's easier to hit you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   move your pinky let's hit the return key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   on the US keyboard it's great huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   not that i will actually argue that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/743">TS</a>]

00:12:26   is the superior layout and argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   but that is but that aside this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   big problem for anybody who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   compete with what am I going to use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34   a keyboard on my iPad pro is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   really really like the keyboard cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   that Apple makes I think it's fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   it's really light i never have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   parallel power it i never have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   about connecting it just it wins on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   every level the convenience of it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/769">TS</a>]

00:12:52   up for all the things you might not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   about it right like the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   not that the switches are amazing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/776">TS</a>]

00:12:59   there is a lot of travel on the keys for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   me like I don't even notice that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02   i'm so happy about the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   always there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/784">TS</a>]

00:13:04   yeah it's always there I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   whoever designed those keys I I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   compare it to it it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   almost like typing on on bubble wrap or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   something it's like the ends have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   little bit of pop to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   I like the sound that they make yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   that that little bit of pop whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   inside those keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   it conveys a feeling of satisfaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   when you're typing that is similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/806">TS</a>]

00:13:29   although not the same to an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   mechanical keyboard in a way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   think that the traditional dome cap keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   don't have any kind of satisfaction when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   you type on them so I i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   the ipad built-in keyboard is is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/819">TS</a>]

00:13:43   really fantastic i really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   the the biggest thing is what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   before that you don't have the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   to adjust the viewing angle which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   yeah it's particularly a pain if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   trying to face time with someone while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   using that because it the the angle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   just ridiculously far back for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   camera right so the person is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   looking at the very top of your head so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   you have like stuff it up on a pillow or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   something it's like rearrange the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   to make facetime work with it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   decided i like that is the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   that I don't like and so I'm curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/850">TS</a>]

00:14:14   see this razer keyboard but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   going to be incredibly hard to displace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   the ipad keyboard the built-in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   already so i'm glad it exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25   I'm glad someone made it I'm glad razor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   made it there should be more rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   leds on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/869">TS</a>]

00:14:30   yeah I'm surprised it's not called like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   the razor skull death mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   keyboard for ipad pro the snake venom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   side winder we have for the ipad this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/877">TS</a>]

00:14:43   week's episode is brought to you by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/883">TS</a>]

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00:14:47   kingdoms job is to make sure that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   website stays up do you run your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   websites do you run your own service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   well kingdom uses more than 70 global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/895">TS</a>]

00:14:58   test servers to evaluate that your site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/898">TS</a>]

00:15:02   is working the way that it should as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   often as every minute they can check not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   just that your website is up but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   your contact forms are working that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   ecommerce checkouts are working that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   logins are working that search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   functionality is working just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   every part of your site they can test to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/917">TS</a>]

00:15:21   make sure that it is up and if it breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   they will let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   right away if you're running your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   service to sell stuff on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   you want to know when something's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   working when suddenly the money stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   without pingdom how are you gonna find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   out i don't know some random customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   sends you an email about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   16 hours later to let you know about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43   of the money that you've been missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44   out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/944">TS</a>]

00:15:45   yeah I guess they'll email you if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   contact form on your website is working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   but maybe that's broken too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   you've got to make sure that this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   is working because the internet breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   all the time every month kingdom to text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/955">TS</a>]

00:15:59   around a 13 million outages that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   400,000 problems everyday data centers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/962">TS</a>]

00:16:07   break you update some part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   website and you don't realize that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   breaks some other totally seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   unrelated but actually deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   interconnected part of your website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   kingdom detects the outage so you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   immediately be alerted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   so you can fix the error before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   affects you and before it affects your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   users when someone comes to your website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   to buy something you want to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   it is up and it is available for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   literally give you money now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   listeners of cortex you can get a 14-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   free trial when you go to Kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   dot-com and use offer code cortex but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:45   not only is it a 14-day trial you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   also get twenty percent off at checkout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   bing.com offer code cortex we have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:54   been a hiring update on the show for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:56   mm you hadn't mentioned anything to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   about this for a while I mean any of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   conversations so I figured it was best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   to not ask you about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   excellent Mike I know you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   traveling so I figured okay maybe great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   doesn't want to talk about this but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   you put out a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   well i'm about to exit which was much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15   demanded of you and you put that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   out because everybody needs the gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   logic in this and do that as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   who is concerned unhappy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   uncomfortable about brexit hearing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:27   betting odds maybe feel a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   about it all but I noticed something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   almost immediately in this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   what did you notice my I could tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   wasn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   oh really how how how do you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   know that it wasn't me as a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:42   ok one that many people i saw in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   reddit notice fingers on people's arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   you've never done that before but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   thing that I noticed was the fluidity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   the animation that was the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   change so things were moving differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   there was less movement by just like job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:02   cuts there was more like actual movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   in the slides and one of the big tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:07   for me was I think it's at one point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:10   a great character or somebody moves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13   arm little and it moves in a non cgpgrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:17   way there's just little movements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   also like the illustration of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20   red button that isn't something you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   i'm watching a video right now in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   you couldn't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   ok is that what you do it you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   to the whistling face that her wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   animate the whistling face uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   because when i watch this video it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   what makes sense to me is to which type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   of style should have one out in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   submission which is the FCT p gray truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42   cared about animation to the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   he wanted to learn more skills in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   this is how it would look like so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   your style everything looks like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   drew right like the the stick figures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   are all there it's not a wild departure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   but the animation of all the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58   looks more alive more fluid and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   just like the next step but because for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:04   you the videos are in the work that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   do in the script soon and the animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   is just to help bring the script to life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   putting that amount of effort and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   into learning how to animate in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   different way just was never in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   view but if you have somebody who does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   this they're able to just bring it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   life a little bit more and a bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   fluidity to the motion which I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   totally see in these you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   confident that I didn't tell me I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   hundred percent confident that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29   interesting thing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   is I don't quite know what you mean also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   speculation time which is the best thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   that you put in any video of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   speculation time is my entire life right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:42   now that rainbow my words so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   ok we can get badges regulation time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:49   don't know what you mean by fluid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   because I know the timeline of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   video and there are only I think two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:57   three moments that aren't just static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:01   images on the screen so when you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   saying more fluid-like i'm not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04   sure what you think you're seeing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   but it is actually a very large series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   of static images there's only three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12   things that I think are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   animated a little the little country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16   girls popping out of the United Kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   speculation time rainbow is animated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   wipes it on the screen and there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   other one other little moment that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   animated everything else is a is a still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   shot let me give you an example of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   I mean by fluidity which is in the cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   blue which is in the little parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   happen that are necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   so for example quite early in the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   you're sitting behind a desk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   something changed in the screen behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   you and your arm goes from bent straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   to point at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:44   look I just don't think that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:45   you would have done who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   so it's like it adds more life to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   video and what I say fluid that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   of what I mean there's more happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   there are more little movements there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   less still em like that just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:59   elements change like again like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   whistling thing it's not necessary but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04   who and then also just an illustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   quality that's higher than yours which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   is like for example the back in cap blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   or what would you call it a little visor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12   it just looks kind of our place in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   cgpgrey flat world because it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   little shine to it and stuff so these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   are the things that make me one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:23   percent certain but you did not do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   illustration and animation for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   video so am i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   so confident you are Mike so confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   and yes you are right about that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   this was the first video that someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:40   else did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   99.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   scent of the animation for this there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   was just a tiny amount that I changed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   the last second a couple little frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   but essentially this was entirely done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   by a different person i handed over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   bunch of my assets for them to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   my hand it over the assets that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   created of me at the desk a few of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   things that normally use fonts i handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   over the country girls file about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   bunch of like style guide kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   elements but i was working with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:17   else to create the animation for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   video so you're right you're right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   I want to come back to the assets i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   think now but there's an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   question in this which is is the hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   process over not exactly i am in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:34   parallel trying a few things with a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   different people is is what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40   and there's there are some things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   might come out in the future which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   done in a different way there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   things that are just being tested so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   strictly speaking know that the hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   process is not over at this stage well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   guess it depends on your interpretation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   of my question I think you're answering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   this in like I haven't found my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   employee but are you still looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:03   suggestions from people are you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   going to any of that you have like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   least a few people where you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   they are good enough that i will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   them i am still refining down the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   of people who I would want to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   in the future but you have at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   obviously found someone who fits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   bill up at a base level so yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   the-the-the in that in that sense yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   have found so far at least one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   who I would be happy to work with in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31   future because you know like it i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   to see it go further but that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   requires maybe different people as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   I wanted never never be satisfied you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   can never set as well people fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   this is a further furthermore i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   think there's more that can be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   right so i assume that you put some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49   constraints on this video but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   love to see more animation in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:56   videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57   then then what we have here as well so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   mean I'm hoping that you continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   push it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02   mhm yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   Pixar studios eventually that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05   this is going like why not it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   why not it's gonna be hair animated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:11   monster skins sky's the limit maybe why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:14   you know white white box yourself in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   entire video shot under cgi water you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:20   can do like what pixar do you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   can take your animation team snorkeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   so you can understand the way that fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   move you can do all of that yeah i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   that's that's the endgame for great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   industries without a doubt and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30   how that's going to work that limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   yourself great field trips to Harvard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   see what universities are like yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   is how this is gonna go into a classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   so they can really understand how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   animate the whiteboard really do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   that stuff matters but that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:44   other issue like this and that capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:49   actually do think that is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50   legitimate business expense if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:51   animate monsters inc is take everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   to Harvard a lot of completely bent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   under percent agree it sounds crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   I think he's right i think he was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   to do that there was no Apple pencil on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   the desk but yes that was I was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   aware of that and it was I was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03   shaking my fist afterward I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   upset i handed over the asset file that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   has the old i think it's i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:09   the ipad 4 on my desk there i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   it's an old one because I remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   day where you working on animation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   you very proudly sent me a screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   with the pencil on the on the ipad and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21   think I think you just have to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22   attention to detail so yeah but yes 03 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:28   slight asset mix up i did it i did end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31   up with an old ipad the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   this is one of those times where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   really wish you two could let you swap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:36   out the video i really do right listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39   listen you two but I absolutely have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   change the ipad on the disk don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42   don't understand how important this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   to me and four other people in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   who notice that I very slowly update the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   set of tools that i use on last because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   now it's like you're a time traveler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   mhm because you're now talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   breaks it with an ipad for mhm yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:57   is pretty ipad pro time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   yeah it does it doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   actually wonder someone should someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   should find where is the first time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   and ipad on the desk i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   know which video would have been and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   be curious to know because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   older ones where you can see that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   still show myself using a laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   various shots but I don't know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   first put the ipad on the desk and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   sure when that happens but yeah so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   so that was a little there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   editing glitch that occurred in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   process of animation not fatal obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   I couldn't feel the need to pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   whole video out of it that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   available leave but yes there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   there are things that if you vary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   eagle-eyed people did notice that were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   little bit different with this animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   or yeah just a little bit out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   ordinary and yet but so that's that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   partly because i was working with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   somebody else which was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   interesting process and I also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:47   say that this video would never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:51   have occurred were it not for being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   to work with someone on the animation it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   just it was interesting but it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   during the process of thinking about mi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   actually going to do a video on break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   Seth like what might this look like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   might it might come to be i was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   aware that had I not gotten to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:12   stage that i was at with filtering down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   a list of people to work with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   seriously being able to consider working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   with some of them there's no way I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:23   have considered a brexit video it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24   it just wouldn't have even been remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   feasible why it wouldn't have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   feasible because of the time frame of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:32   producing something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   yeah so if you will allow me to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:37   back the cotton a little bit will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   allow me to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   okay i don't know how much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   curtain you're going to pull them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   were talking about this video you sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   me a script to look over because me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   you have been talking about breakfast a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   bunch and maybe I've followed some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   the news morning you have which again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   between you it's not very much but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:59   been kind of looking at it and I looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   over the script and then thinks like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   come together like super quickly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   that way faster then usual for you which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:10   that raised my eyebrows in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   instance right like when I knew you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   animating was like this is quick like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16   even gray is working with someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   he's decided to say to hell with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   hands who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21   so this timeline is a lot faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:25   that is very interesting because we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   previously on this show spoken about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   fact that when you do this when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   bring someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   you were kind of expecting it to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   lot of hard work to get them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   point where they could do this for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   but maybe that's at least if it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   work it's not work that takes a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:42   yeah was it this is part of the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   of trying to figure out which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   person that I want to work with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   doing just a little bit of initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49   feedback and essentially in in in no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:53   small way this very video was a bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:57   a job application stage of saying listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:01   let's let's see if we can do with thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   really quickly and with the person i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   working with I would have known within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   the first day or two based on what i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   getting back from them if this was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   possible show and so the the person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   I chose to work with on this I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   just immediately seem like yes I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   that this is possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   let's just see if we can go for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   one of the ways in which i like to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   to arrange projects is to have them be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   valuable even if they fail or even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:32   they don't work out and so when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   thinking about doing this brexit video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:36   one of the things i was thinking of was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39   well if I work on this script and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:44   trying to make this video with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   else and it doesn't work out because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   the animations like the animations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   not able to be done in the required time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   into the required quality that i need at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   the very least i have learned something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   about one of my finalists candidates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   right that's so it's like even if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02   is a disaster is not a total disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   there is something that is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   salvaged out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   the time money calculation work cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   checks out it checks out because I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   I'm I'm I'm essentially giving someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   something to do under a kind of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   constraints and I need to be able to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   what they're able to do because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   didn't do this you never notice about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   this person and then that is counter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   how you want to run your business going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:23   exactly exactly so what my view was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:27   if the video didn't come out there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   there was still an upside to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   in doing this and that was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   reasons why I wanted to do this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35   okay let me see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   and it was also just an ability to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   and to test a kind of quick turnaround [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:42   because in the process of making this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   was looking it up and I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   something like 11 days start to finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:51   on this video which is a pretty fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   turnaround for me I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:56   underselling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57   oh yeah 11 days start to finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:00   it's very fast it's very fast for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   it's not a pace that I would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   work out regularly and it's not a pace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   that would want my animators to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   regularly your business so far as proven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   that you don't need to do that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:14   this video was a case of there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   implicit time pressure because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19   video can only be produced so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:22   we're trying to talk about a changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   situation and so if this is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   that's going to take three weeks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   there's no good way to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:33   three weeks from now right because too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   much will have too much will change talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   about changing situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   yeah yeah and yes the scripted changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   several times over even the space of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   those 11 day like I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:44   racket that everything's changed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   now we have a prime minister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   yeah that was that was a was like curse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   you increasing stability of the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   not what I want from my scripts my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:56   script is based on the premise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:57   there won't be a prime minister for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   several months but somehow this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   changed overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   I say when I knew this was coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   together I just every every few hours i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   would just go to the BBC News homepage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   and just see and want to keep sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   you articles like I felt a duty was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   I know you're not looking like you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:15   to know if we have a prime minister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   yes i was i was glad to be kept up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:21   date but all of this is just a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:22   of saying that i couldn't have possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   consider doing this video on my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   because essentially the animator was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   working simultaneously on this as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   writing the script and so that meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   that I was kind of burning some of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   work when I was making changes but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   was still like we are each trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   towards the thing at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   and he only had the the final audio the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:48   the evening before it was supposed to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   up right but kept working off of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   drafts and storyboards and things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   this this is why i was able to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   because if that hadn't occurred it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   me 11 days to get a finished script and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:06   then if I had to sit down and animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   that would have been especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   it's a longer video the normal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   would have been close to a week maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   yeah i'm going to say close to a week if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   I was if I was really pushing it and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   caring at all about my hand and then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   all honesty you have to every written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   the script again like yeah but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   there's no way it would have worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25   that's exactly at an additional week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   would have meant too much changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   political situation I would have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   back to go the audio and like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   what this loop will just continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   however you can't fix this audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   this script fast enough to also be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   to animate whatever the changes are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   going to get stuck in this forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   I want to talk about some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:43   practicalities of this process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   no because this is a way that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49   worked very closely with someone in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   different way to before you know it mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   you were quite closely with sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   audio files back and forth but not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   the speed and pace and frequency who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   like I'm not making an edit and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   sending it to you and then you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   make an edit and send it to me I just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   the full show and then send it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   and then you take a look at the four sho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   we're not like taking a little blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11   and chopping them up and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   who which is what I assume was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   bit more of what was happening with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   animator who that you were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   sending it back and forwards to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   they were checking things of you you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   sending the medics they were making more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   edits you were checking on that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:26   so how was that process going backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   and forwards how are you communicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   how are you transferring files that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32   ok so here is the rough process this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   would have been the Friday before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37   video went up so like we are a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   earlier i had finished what i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   was a a pretty decent rough script for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:45   video this is this is a stage I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   have to get to which is a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   proof-of-concept like is there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   to talk about here like I'm not and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   exactly sure there was a great thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   talk about and so eventually settled on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:57   talking about in terms of bets and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   I thought okay maybe maybe there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   thing to discuss here so let me just try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   to see if i can find a script and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   sometimes in this process I discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06   like actually no there really isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   anything to talk about it so I had about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   1,500 words for a script that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:14   okay this is enough that I can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   this and i can say go like we can try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   do this and so the first the first stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:24   was just doing a very rough storyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:28   for if this rough script is to become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31   video what are the things that are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   to be needed on screen but what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:38   items that we are talking about and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   how is entering and leaving the EU going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   to be conceptualized and how are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:46   political parties going to be shown how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   are all of these elements going to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   screen and there's a way you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   which is to just just do it by stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   figures and so I largely turn that over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   to the animator and said storyboard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:01   out for me and and that was kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   my first test of of seeing can you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   back to me a storyboard on this rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09   script that looks reasonable to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:12   and the answer was yes and so when I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   back to storyboard look reasonable it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15   like okay we're gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   what is the story polls look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   storyboard just looks like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   hand-drawn boxes with little stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   figures in it and like just the roughest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   possible drawing that you could have of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   what is going to happen in each section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   of the script we had that and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   way it worked was that i just spent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:37   heck each morning working on the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   each afternoon trying to keep up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   little bit with politically what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   on and reading and then each evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   working on the script against i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   doing like two major writing and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:49   like reading section each day this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   like my cycle of going through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   while I was doing that the animator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:58   wasn't trying to animate the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01   directly but was instead trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   create all of the pieces that would need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   to be assembled at the end so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10   this is how this was able to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   there's a way to work on the animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   without having to actually be animating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   like each frame that's going to occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   it's it's more like create the pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   that will be frantically assembled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   together at the last possible second but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   you know ninety percent of the work has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   been done in the creation of the assets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   that are going to be on screen right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33   that's that's the way this was working i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:34   kept messaging him every time I had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   a major revision just said okay here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39   here's the stuff that's changed if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   were working on these assets like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   thing is no longer no longer needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   there so just dump it if you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   on it and and hears anything new that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   will need to be created and something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:51   that a perfect example is like we need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   prime minister now right there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   reference to five minutes during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   script but now we need something for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   prime minister to do and yeah there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   needs to be some reference to her right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   now yeah now that needs to be a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   Prime Minister right right there doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   need to be a a generic nobody's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   the job Prime Minister yeah and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   is that is roughly how it went as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   days as the days went on more assets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:14   were created and then there's parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   the script which looked very unlikely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   change and so those start getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   created in two different into different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   slides and it all starts coming together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   until the very end where the day before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   I'm able to say okay here is the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   audio and animated against this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:30   this so now we know what the timings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   need to be for how long it takes me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33   say each individual part and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   assuming you're communicating via slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   transferring files by Dropbox is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41   this is an entirely slack dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   project which is kind of amazing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   that again you can work with someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47   just anywhere random if the world was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50   like yeah but we have like instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   messaging platform files can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   transferred back and forth immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   this is even little things that I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   don't know I I i still feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   slightly magical that i can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   message from a guy who's like oh hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   need that scroll that you use all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   time and I can open up my phone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   drill down into dropbox where I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   that copy it over into the shared folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   that we have and then he gets it seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   later right now but I'm like walking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   my house and just doing this on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   with one hand as a step on from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   like that the way that improves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   collaboration process between you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   this person is amazing because now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   never need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:23   for that again yeah this is the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   the assets right right and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   like they you just don't need to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   anything like that anymore because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   have it all which is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   yeah there is I mean my description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37   might sound a little bit like rushed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   chaotic and i have to say this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   definitely a little bit rushed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   chaotic there were a bunch of ways we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   were doing stuff that we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   about like this is not how we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   normally gonna do this if we work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49   together in the future you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   processes yet yet but it was a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   of is there just a super fast way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   it right now just do it that way even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:00   this is not a good way to do things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   the future because what what matters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   we need this up by Friday like we cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07   afford an additional weekend news cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   so just whatever is fastest just do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:14   that's what we're going to do and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   end of it you just delivered a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:18   yes the way we did it this time was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   was delivered a video file just a just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24   straight up and before that I imported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27   into final cut pro added a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   that I needed to do added in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   little transitions that I wanted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   there and then I react sport again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   uploaded to YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37   that's a perfect example of this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   terrible way to normally do it but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:42   is the fastest way to just do it now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:45   like get it done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   great just send me an mp4 file like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   don't have time to deal with out we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   don't like me re-rendering it on my end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:53   like no potential is actually faster to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   just send it across the internet isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:56   it before let's just do it that way did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   it feel pretty good the I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:02   pleased that it was done and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:05   thinking about it a lot that it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   don't really like doing super fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   turnaround stuff i find it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   stressful i really don't like playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   any games with the new cycle but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:19   it was interesting and useful to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   done this one this time just to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:26   it's possible and and to have that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   thing to keep in mind for the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:32   because you're that there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   that you focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   that every few years there is a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   like this that should be made like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42   election occurs and something crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   happens in the election like that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   within your wheelhouse you just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   sense for you to have a video about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   that's why everybody really wanted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   brexit video from you right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   there are so many elements of brexit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:57   which for directly into cg b grades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00   video will house right there is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   interesting election that's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   something way movements between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   countries like political that it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   kind of ties together so nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   you know that's why everybody wanted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   and it's good to know now that you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   least in your back pocket have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   ability to have a video from conception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   to delivery in like ten days it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:23   good thing you don't know you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   which you couldn't have done like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:28   this is you so that there's no way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   video would have existed if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   trying to do on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:32   yeah there's there's there's no way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   just not possible that the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   turnaround I ever did was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   Confederate flag video but if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   back and look at that first of all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   incredibly short right it is a a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   short video that is is very minimal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:50   information that that needs to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:51   there which is the only reason I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   able to even consider doing that two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   minutes and 20 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56   yeah this is so it's like hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   anything it was almost like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   second full kind of video radical issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   like here's the thing i have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   thoughts on it and it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   yeah exactly it was it was very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   very short whereas the brexit one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   because i really felt that the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   to talk about it was with speculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:15   time was to acknowledge and discuss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:19   fact that there is no process that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   is all just speculation is kind of why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   felt ok doing that video in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   speculation is an intrinsic part of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   is occurring now so let's speculate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31   let's do that but in order to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:34   that stage of the video like why is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   speculation there's there's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   ground work that needs to be late and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   enough stuff that needs to be talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:42   about that there's no way that that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   be a short video like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   i I couldn't do a video where I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   came out and just talked about the odds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   of breakfast I can be it wouldn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   sense i think i think it needs it needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   a little bit of context but then that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   that's why the video is whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   six minutes seven minutes long i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   idea its pretty long time talking pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   fast through the script so yeah it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06   was not doable on my own but doable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:10   somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:11   how do you feel about the future now one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   of the things I I think about the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   just in general is the importance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:20   proof of concepts like just the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:23   proof that the thing is able to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   even if it is not done in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   cost-effective or elegant or quick way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:31   like you approve that anything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32   possible to do i usually with regards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   the world of technology like proof of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   concepts are very interesting and to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   this this is me essentially having gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   through a proof of concept that i can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:48   a video with having someone else do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   animation if I'm able to work with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   right person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   there are several ways that this has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:59   impact on my work and I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:03   i'm still trying to think through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   precisely what this means i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:09   really come to a solid conclusion but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   feel like one of the main things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:16   had on my mind when we started this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   whole hashtag year of less me was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:24   trying to remove myself from parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   the business which are incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:28   time-consuming and this was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   big ones that was like in the back of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   mind is the thing that like is possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   to do and so now here you know just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37   over halfway through the year the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   is yes this is the thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   possible to do and I could see straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   away some of the things that were on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   mind about reasons why would want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   this and and one of the big ones was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   even though this was a a lot of work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:57   get the script done in this amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   it was ultimately those still a lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   disruptive to my regular working routine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:07   so I did need some downtime after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:13   video went up but it wasn't like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16   normally put up a video and i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   i have been drained of all my life force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21   right and it's like I am now knocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   almost like you're a week out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   schedule before I'm back to being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   normal person and also a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:31   knock-on effects of that has just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   something we need to revisit the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   idea of routines again but just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   aware that every time I upload a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   it really punches out a whole section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   my calendar and my schedule my routines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   in a not helpful way and so doing doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:49   this video with another person i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   really aware like okay this was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   busy this was an unusual amount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   time this was a big crunch but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   feel like I've just blasted a hole in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:00   calendar I as a result of this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:04   think that like that has an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:05   impact on the future so i guess i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:10   the answer is i am interested to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   where this goes but i can't say i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   super solid specific thoughts on it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:18   but but what I do have is a successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   proof-of-concept and I'm i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   happy about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   if you're not doing the animation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   illustration do you feel like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   your creative bitches will be scratched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   so for me there are certain shows the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:33   edit but I can't let go of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   because i like to put might on them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:39   the flourishes that I do that I hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   know why my little things the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   that I can't explain to somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:45   like why I feel like a sound effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   needs to go here or why I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   part needs the government minima you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   know like why that I think that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   should happen that's part of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   creative vision I guess which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2876">TS</a>]

00:48:01   terrible way to say that but this store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   we're gonna break up you're such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   artiste I know I asked you know podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:08   as art right right and do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11   in doing this in in handy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   over the whole of this part of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   video creation do you think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   might end up feeling like you're missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   I don't know that's hard to project in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24   the future but again in this world of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   proof-of-concept one of the things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:30   proof of concept stage was giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33   feedback on the storyboards for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:37   like before anything starts to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   animated like here's changes that need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   to be made or you know this this needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   to be different this needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:44   different and that was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   thing to see where it it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   feeling of I don't know why I need or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:53   want this section to be different but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   just feel it's better if it's shown this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   way versus that way and i didn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   didn't do a ton of that but it was again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   just I think part of the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   trying to work with somebody else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   and getting into the experience of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:10   giving a list of changes right seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   what comes back seeing seeing how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   goes and i can see that being just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   in the future working on rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   storyboards with somebody else and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   a bunch of feedback in that stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   feeling totally fine with that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   at the end result with the animations is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31   what i want and in lots of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   details is better than something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37   could produce on my own so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   necessarily worried that I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   feel like how I don't have an expression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   for my creative side I'm not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   concerned about that but maybe I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   it's hard to know your future self you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   definitely have a creative flair for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   making your little jokes and stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53   you do and I just wonder like can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   explain that to someone easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   yeah yeah again there's there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:02   many ways where we'll have to see it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06   the in the future developing an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   process for working together with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   people as as opposed to just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   whole god let's get it up right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   I think that that will be part of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   what this is of when i'm writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   script I often like i always say like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   have a very clear idea in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   what it is that I want up on screen so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   think part of the process in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   might be figuring out a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   communicate what I think are the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   important parts of that i like what i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   saying these words and these words they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   look on paper like they don't work but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   think they will work if this is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   screen when I'm saying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   yeah yeah like that that is a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   comes up all the time when I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   is being aware of words that just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:51   work if the right thing isn't on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   screen so you feel like you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   vision when you're writing rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   one you're animating yes exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   well then that's going to be great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:02   you then right because for me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   only get some of those thoughts when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   actually hearing the audio go through em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   right I like all this work really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   here Lou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   so that's when I do it anybody if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   seeing it when you're writing then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   you'll still probably going to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   majority of that creativity out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   listening to you talk about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   knowing kind of the process that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   been through and you know as our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   listeners have heard us go along this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   mean i'm seeing the output i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   future is very bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32   yeah maybe I don't know about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:36   feelings just things are different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:41   we're just looking back at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   conversations that we've had over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   last few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   Lou what you have here is exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:50   you are looking for like a base level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   somebody has created a video that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:57   like one of your videos who is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   have even higher quality than some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   them who and it worked perfectly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:06   they've not diverged from you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   we haven't got red stick figures like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   fists you know they're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   something crazy all of the additions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   great speculation time again best thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:18   ever you know all of this stuff was work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:21   and then its output something that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:25   only as good as something as we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   many times you couldn't have done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:30   this has been like a net win for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:32   Yeah Yeah right I definitely think so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   definitely think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36   so I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   what I don't know if any in a year from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   now i will exactly be in this position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   but going forward I would like ideally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:46   to do as little of the animation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   possible for for all of the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   reasons we have discussed in previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52   shows and it seems to me that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   way to do that now I that is real so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3175">TS</a>]

00:53:01   am I am looking forward to seeing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   this goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:04   I feel like you're on the plane this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   yeah i mean that you might just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   be conservative about it but this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   seems like perfect that you've done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   you know and it's worked and now you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:20   able to do more than you ever been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3200">TS</a>]

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00:55:52   Evernote it has brought people out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   their droves to recommend other services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3358">TS</a>]

00:55:59   yeah as a replacement for Evernote yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   so I kind of what first of our you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   totally ditching it like a have you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3365">TS</a>]

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00:56:15   to this is no right I i spent after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:19   episode a a a long frustrating weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22   trying my darndest to find a solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:26   this and that the closest thing by far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:33   is one note and i was like i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36   determined to make one note work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39   there are a few things that that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   just total deal-breakers about the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   one networks I i think that Evernote is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   really just a tool that sits at a unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   place that they're there really isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   anything else that does all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   things that it does it's just deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:57   unfortunate that Evernote is at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   company that I don't feel like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:01   trust very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   and that does not do a great job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:07   the ipad implementation of their app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:11   has dumped limits and so the the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:15   result of what it is that I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16   do so far is since there is nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:19   i can switch to right now and since this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   is still a tool that I need to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   using a bunch of people very helpfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27   pointed out that there are ways to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   to get around these Evernote limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   by using tags so instead of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:36   individual notebooks for things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   instead tag all of your notes and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:42   there is some ridiculous limit on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   number of tags that was like 10,000 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47   hundred thousand tag they don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   exactly but the limit is very very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   so I can kick the can down the road to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54   10 years from now gray who has to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   about what happens when he runs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   against the 10,000 tag limit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   Evernote and has never know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   100-year company right so you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   to be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   that's right they'll definitely be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   around in 10 years and tags can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   arranged in a hierarchical manner which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   I was not aware of because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   something that you can do on the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   it's only thing that you can do on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20   desktop version turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   same with Apple notes you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   nested folders we were told but only on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   OSN you can set them up and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   view them on iOS em that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   always makes me nervous when the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   feature click so i can nest the tags on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   the desktop but I can't do it on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   like it got in the old version but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   they decided to make the new touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   version they decided not to put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3525">TS</a>]

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00:58:49   super confident about that as well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:53   it's really it's really just a result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54   I i think i've often happens with tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3534">TS</a>]

00:59:00   that people use professionally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   computer tools in general that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   end up feeling kind of trapped by a tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   that you rely upon that there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:09   no good way to move and whatever know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:13   there's always just some deal-breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   feature of trying to move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   to another system like I'll definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   give a pretty good recommendation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   google drive as well as an alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24   way to try to do this kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   yeah a few people wrote in about this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   seems like it has a lot of the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   so you can upload files searchable to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   OCR it has hierarchical folders it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:37   on all devices is no limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   why is Google Drive not like an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43   yeah I played around with it it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46   good as Evernote as and getting stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   into it so I could totally chokes on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:51   thing that I do all the time which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:52   would like to save this webpage into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:55   Google Drive get it doesn't do the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58   where Evernote kind of grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   where Evernote kind of grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   there's a whole HTML copy of the webpage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   then the whole thing is searchable does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   it do that on iOS to the web clipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   Evernote yeah does interesting i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   they're cheating it in some way but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   definitely it does do it i'm sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   like I mean this is an annoying thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12   that you could use other applications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   get that stuff into google drive right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:17   is that he's like that like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18   totally ways to try to think about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   this but one of the other things that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:23   frustrating is the problem of how do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   get all of my stuff out of Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   right now is one of these things where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:32   don't know if you ever mention on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:32   podcast before but i have always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   really annoyed at evernotes claims of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   data portability with her like oh don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:38   worry you can export your data anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:41   you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42   it's super easy all you have to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   select one notebook at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   export that one notebook and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   get a file on your desktop which is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   custom xml file that we have written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56   that essentially nothing else can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:59   like but we've exported your data like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   not in any way that i find useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   Evernote em but when I think of I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06   love to get all my data out of Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   what I want is a way to say export the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   whole database and what you would give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   me is a series of nested folders with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:16   rich text documents and images in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19   but you don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21   exporting your data into proprietary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   format that can only be reliably read by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   your own application is not dr. X both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:29   just moving it exactly it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   like making a backup and they also do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   is really inconvenient way but it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35   always bothered me this kind of Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   championing of like I don't worry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38   can leave anytime you want but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:42   always known that that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:43   case-by-case a hard drive all your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   but it's possible protected and only we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   know the password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   yeah and it's like yes in theory all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   the data is there okay i guess i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   could hire someone to write a custom xml [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   parser for like this this starts getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59   into crazy the stuff that exists as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   like there are things that can take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   Avenue de turn turn into something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   who but you just know it's never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:09   be as you put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10   yeah exactly it's that you just you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   and the problem with this is as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   that why do I feel stuck with Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   is because Evernote is legitimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   serving the function of this external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   brain and so the way it works is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:25   not possible for me to really export and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   import into something else and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   super confident that everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   actually arrived because there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   for me to be able to check all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   stuff that i have put in it and you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   find out it's gone wrong at the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   need it exactly right is no no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:43   yeah and as I i think i said in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   show I have something on the order of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46   3,000 notes because it's a lot of notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49   to move and even some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52   things that were trying like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:53   totally choked trying to import even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:57   know much smaller numbers than that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58   so I think it's just it's interesting i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   will still say for anybody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   starting a fresh right at looking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:08   trying to build some kind of external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:09   brain i would probably recommend Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   Drive or one note and then you pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   between those two based on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   personal preferences can I throw dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   in the mix here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20   I mean I know it doesn't have the OCR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:23   stuff but dropbox is potentially an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26   infinitely better service because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   ultimately it's just file storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   because even Google Drive like it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:34   some weird stuff of files who you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   give you decided that I was part my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   google Drive system i'm going to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   some things into a google doc it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   what it downloads is not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:45   document that you can use glue is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   google drive document like that the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   thing about things going into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:50   service like Dropbox is it all it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53   it's just storage of files that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   then use in our application super easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   yeah if you can give up OCR and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:02   searching within documents my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:05   recommendation would be dropbox unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   there are applications that can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   take a document and OCR on-the-fly yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:13   I also looked into a whole bunch of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   i was playing around with creating like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:19   a little workflow in the workflow app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   try to take a document OCR it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   push it into another service but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   starts getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   you again like the the use case for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   with Evernote is very often like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:31   here's the thing that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32   interesting i just want to quickly save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   it right what I don't want to do is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37   have a little barrier of yeah like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   invoking a thing like I'm I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   to turn saving stuff into a conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:44   decision do I want to get out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   flow of what I'm working on right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   right i just want to press a button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   have it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   this is when another device can help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:55   like if you had like a server that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:58   process that stuff for you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01   background right so you could set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03   something that performs a bunch of rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   and but no all you're doing is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:08   saving it to a folder but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   background there's something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:11   working on it does it again as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:14   elegant that is not part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   multipath lifestyle to have this mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:17   mini that's over in the corner doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   something but it would give you what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:21   oh yeah and I i have done crazy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   like this before of having dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   folders that say hazel is watching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   then hazel invoke certain rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   depending on what happens in there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32   I have I have done all of this stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:35   I'm am ultimately like what I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   to not do is ending up building my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   house of cards that's going to collapse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   someday because I'm really I just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:45   trying to have a thing be simple and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   and even if I build my own crazy system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   it still doesn't get around the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   of how do i get everything out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52   Evernote in a way that is reasonable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   them import into this new system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   oh yeah all of this stuff that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   suggesting is if you starting fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00   yeah yeah if if you're starting a fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   eye I think yeahit's i would suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:06   someone uses OneNote Google Drive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09   Dropbox if you're willing to give up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10   couple of features and I think those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   those are all totally reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13   solutions but it's just like what do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:17   do what do I do now it's like I'm even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   running like these crazy ideas in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21   head like what if I started a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   company to make my own effort note like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26   could I do that as like know if that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   that's you know what that is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   easier thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   however this is not my topic list for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   some point in the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   because so many of your problems will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   yeah but it's like I i started i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:42   wandering down that path they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43   hey dude do you remember the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   thought maybe i should start a clothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   manufacturing company but in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50   get the t-shirt that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:51   it's like you know this is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   solution to these problems is not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   could reinvent the wheel so it it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:58   a question of do I want to start like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   Evernote competitor vs do I want to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04   keep using Evernote try to make it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   with tags kick the can down a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:11   years hopefully assuming Evernote stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   in business and and do that and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   like you know you know what this feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:19   like to me it feels like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   occasionally hear about how some company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:24   somewhere is still has like a punch card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   system that's in the basement of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29   their offices that the whole company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:30   relies upon and using Evernote to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:35   feels like this it feels like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   legacy thing that I don't like but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:41   is no optimal move to get rid of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   i'm going to end up continuing using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   and I'm going to keep just liking it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   this is precisely why companies do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:50   kind of thing or governments do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   kind of thing where they end up using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:53   something that's incredibly out of date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55   and awkward like and nobody likes it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:58   the answer of what is the move to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:02   that is an optimal move to switch away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:05   from this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:06   the answer is there is no move so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   going to keep using this thing forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   and that the punch card example I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   even mean that as a joke there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   are companies that still manufacture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   brand-new punch cards because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   entities out there that require them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   like this is this is actually a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   that still exists in the world you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   to see what howl of banks around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   oh yeah thanks must have the most crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   old softest who want who wants to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:31   guy who's like let's run a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   update on the banking industry nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   nobody nobody wants to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:39   nope so you have you have stuff that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   literally from the sixties and seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   running the banking industry behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   scenes because it's like everybody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   the exact same cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:48   benefit calculation of what are we going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   to change to nothing is what we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   to change that we're just gonna we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   going to keep making this old thing work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   even if it's horrific me awkward and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   there are a few pieces of software in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   life that are like that and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:02   maybe Evernote is the absolute apex of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:05   this for me in terms of what piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:08   software do I use the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:12   but I'm also perhaps the unhappiest with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   and I think maybe Evernote wins that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17   calculation of all of the things that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   use so little sticker there forever note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:22   i want to just mention something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   Apple notes as a means to follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   I reference that you could take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   Evernote database and put it into apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   notes right that is that is a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   that is officially supported you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:34   quite a few listeners wrote in to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   that they've put in the region of 2,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   say notes from Evernote into apple notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:42   and apple notes becomes terrifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:45   unstable and unresponsive around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   kind of level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:48   yeah I'm not surprised because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:51   think apples really imagining that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:52   anybody's using it in that use case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   having two thousand notes in there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:55   can't imagine anybody was thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:58   that's that's going to be what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4198">TS</a>]

01:09:59   happens with Apple notes i hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01   they changed that though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   eventually lots of people will get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   that limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06   yeah I mean I apple just dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:09   the crazy law of large numbers right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   they have so many people using it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   yes they are going to have some users at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   the edge case of of that but yes i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17   surprised to hear that Apple its kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:18   chokes on Evernote sighs databases if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:23   feels kind of sad to me that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:26   because it is this like we've come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   feel like we're at the end of this topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   and there's no answer the answer is i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   stuck and that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   I don't feel as how we usually do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:35   right we're all about optimizing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38   I remember everything but no no here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   are I mean you're stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:41   I'm not stuck i am pretty confident that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   after my next trip i will be cancelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   moving account because i'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   confident I have everything that I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   in my Apple notes right now who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:53   been saving PDS in their stuff and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   been thought it's been fantastic who so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:58   i'm just gonna make the trip if it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   as well as I hope it will then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:01   gonna be moving away completely from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   other not because it I've now been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   to replace the only thing that it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   to me Lou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   there are many solutions for you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   none of them a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:11   unfortunately yeah that's why wait when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   you say oh it's you know that this feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   like a is attending I am I am frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:20   but I feel like the the core of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23   decision like with so many things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   about optimization and and so the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:28   to what is the optimal move the optimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   move is to stay put with Evernote so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   winning move is not playing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   yes yes sort of but not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   consistent because it'll pay never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   every month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:39   okay so it's not exactly like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   stepping aside from the thing but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   that's just what that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   happens sometimes my only real concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48   is that I I do worry about the financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:51   viability of Evernote that enough people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:54   cancelling subscriptions combined with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   hold of their global offices and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   their people who do who knows what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:01   that the company might just implode upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   itself but I feel like okay well if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:06   when Evernote implode upon itself that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09   then shifts the calculus of what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   optimal move and then the optimal move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   is well you just you know you got to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   something and you have to pick the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17   the least bad option and so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:21   day that day is the day that i will move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   but for now yeah just sticking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:28   Evernote and having really positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   feelings with that elephant icon so once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:35   you have decided that you want to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   person to create the next amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   application or service that stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   everybody's text or maybe all want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:44   the first person that comes up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   website based completely around brexit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   no matter what it is you need to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   hover because with however you will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:53   able to get the domain name that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   need super easily ridiculously easily in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:59   fact and they're going to have all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   the extensions that you're looking for i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4381">TS</a>]

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01:13:07   of their dot-com dotnet co-cio they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:10   all there but maybe you have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   more fun that you're doing maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   want to add design or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   dot tech may be looking for that quirky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   extension like dark ninja or maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   set up a store and you want to start got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:21   no matter what it is whether you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   create Evercore dotnet they're all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   to be there with other and then once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   find that domain you can use however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:28   connect to set up your domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   automatically with just a few clicks no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   more digging through help articles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   copy and pasting stuff to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   domain working find the perfect domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   name for your idea go to Harvard calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   and use the promo code court xmas cor t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:43   DX is a trek out to save ten percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:47   your first purchase thank you so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   hover for their support of this show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   really have been so many weeks ago we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   spoke about BR all and i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   collecting up just a few bits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:57   follow-up that i wanted to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   something about this so you remember of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02   course as many people have the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   we describe ER was like dropping acid or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:07   at least you did and then I was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   on board the idea a guy called quantum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:12   tunneling davon the reddit has confirmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   this for us and as as dave says somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:17   who has dropped acid a few times i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:19   that the analogy is quite apt I now want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:22   to try VAR it sounds like it tickles a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   few of the same spots in the brain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   acid so you did it congratulations for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:31   someone who does asset a group of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:32   analogy that it was like dropping acid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   yeah which is which is great because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   I've never dropped acid so just reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   for something and yes just just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:41   to get like how is it to explain a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   when you have certain experiences you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:46   just can't explain them to someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   hasn't had those experiences so I'm uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51   I'm glad that someone is an agreement on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   that if you moved forward with VR at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   have you made any purchases i actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4496">TS</a>]

01:15:00   have not moved forward mainly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:02   other things have just occupied my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   attention and this is one of these this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:08   is one of these things where I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:11   I need to I need to sit down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:16   seriously figure out how this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   to work this this is not a quick like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   ooh let me just add to cart right check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:23   vr del and have it delivered to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:26   house like this is a big thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   where is it going to go exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   computer do I need what equipment am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:31   going to get this is the thing where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   need to sit down and spend an afternoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   figuring out and I just haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   able to have that afternoon and plus as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   we are recording right now I am shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   leaving for America in just a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   days and so anything that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:45   shipped would just be sitting here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   like a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:48   untouched as i'm out of the country so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   feel like i have mentally postpone this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:53   until I get back from America for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:56   final time from the for the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:57   summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:58   yeah i'm still waiting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:01   PlayStation VR I've already pre-ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:03   that i already have fifty percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   equipment actually back at twenty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:08   percent of the equipment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:09   realization and it's but it's Tony's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   couple of additions so I'm just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   wait for that because if it gives me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   i said on the show if it gives me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:19   least most of the experience that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   oculus did then i'll be more than happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   because i won't have to to put another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25   big spinning box in my house live with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:29   big land a big power supply and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   stuff doesn't want to do it so i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:32   happy if i can just hook up to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   playstation and enjoy your that way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:37   however something that i have noticed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:40   the comments on YouTube and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42   comments on reddit little is that the ER [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   console wars have begun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   ok there are affecting their oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:50   this was a thing that just simply did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:53   not occur to me when we recorded to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   up the episodes and right but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   retrospect seems incredibly obvious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:01   there's like just as in all human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   endeavors the tribal lines form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:06   immediately right so it's a paper is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   enormous number of comments about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   various competing vr systems and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:14   they are obviously superior and why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   is like here we go like it's Sega and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:19   Nintendo all over her again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   basically everybody was saying to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   that the vibe was better who I have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:28   counter to this argument again having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   not tried the vibe is that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   most people have tried the oculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   without the touch controls because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:36   they're not available right and so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:39   people say that the HTC vive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   superior because of the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   controllers as well as the room sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:46   that they have em so there's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:49   double part of it so again it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:52   that combination of both makes it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   I don't really have a space where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   could set up by HTC vive in my home so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   that is a black mark against survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   mm I don't know as well like Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:03   they took us and let's play this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:06   Lou I'm not seeing HTC to it right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:10   are they now that is that that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12   happening here Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   that's a mark for me you know that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:19   easily bribed you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:22   hey you know it's it's a it's a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:25   right in the corner for her to pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   another thing that I really liked was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   people saying that the vibe was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   because facebook was evil and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   locking down the platform and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:36   exclusives for games and like nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:39   and sega man like what you notice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   this is same as playstation microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43   right now it's all about console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:44   exclusives this is how the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   works and as I say I don't care Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:49   an evil they're nice burritos we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   really great burritos on the catalysts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   that day so you know I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:56   yeah they had fantastic food and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4736">TS</a>]

01:19:00   is also it is also funny when some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:01   the old locking down the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   I as someone who grew up with Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   find that find that argument entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:08   unmoving looks like i don't care classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11   everything is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:13   I I care if the games are good i care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   the hardware is is great like gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   platforms are kind of inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   exclusive things i just i'm not i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:25   convinced by that as as an argument so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   yeah I I kind of agree with that i may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:31   have the chance to try out an HTC vive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:35   between now and when I might be making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38   decision about what to purchase well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   look at this now i will be curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:45   see what that experience is like i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   curious to look forward to your report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:51   gray at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52   I'll let you know Mike please please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:58   please do so I I'm i'll be curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:01   see what it also does it also does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   the problems you said like I said living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:04   in London I don't have a room that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:07   big enough to do any of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   stuff in there's just there's just no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:10   space as well like I know that I've move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:13   around when I was wearing the oculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   like I know that happened but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:17   maybe over time learn to not move around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   but part of what makes survive great is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   the fact that you're supposed to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:22   around right i just don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:24   space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   yeah i mean i am imagining that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   enormous number of the actual vr stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:31   that i will be doing is centered around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33   the notion of sitting on a couch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:36   and then and doing we are in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   and so the the extra salesmanship of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:42   can move around with an HTC vive is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   appealing to me because I have nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   to move around because i live in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   center of the city i was doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:49   thinking about VR and my thoughts let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:53   back to our old friend American Truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:56   Simulator and I was thinking to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:57   how much fun it would be to play truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:01   simulator VR headset on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   well I mean this is a perfect sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:06   the couch VR experience like even wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:10   like the wheel and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:11   can you imagine a wheel pedals and abby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   i had set you like turn around look out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15   the window look in the mirrors man it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17   would be amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   yeah by far in a way that was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:22   one of the things i was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23   after we had our VR experiences just me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:26   and you that right like we're the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28   ones i did really i didn't really keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:32   thinking about that of like man we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:35   trucking's canopy amazing act like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   can't wait to do vr trucking and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:40   also a situation like this would work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:42   perfectly in my house sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   sitting down I can't move anyway is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   there's nowhere to go and then if i end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:50   up buying a pc for my VR equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:55   well guess what now all of those wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   and pedals stuff that doesn't work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   my back trying to learn with bc i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:02   know why you haven't done this already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:05   it's like it's the perfect reason to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:08   the wheel you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:11   yes that's the big excuse it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:14   would like to buy this wheel so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   to spend several thousand dollars find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   new pc and behind well you've been close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   to that just because of the right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:24   now there's two reasons but love a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:27   of the PlayStation stuff a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   stuff that they're showing off is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30   focused around like just sitting down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   with a playstation controller and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   screen is in the VR headset and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:37   also promoting it like non VR games you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   can play them like that and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   that's really cool i can assess its like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   a cinema screen in front of your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   then I'm looking forward to playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   games like that I think it'll be fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:49   just and just a different way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   experience them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:52   yeah I could totally see that again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:53   is where I just I i have had essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:56   no console experience since the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4976">TS</a>]

01:23:01   nintendo like I have been just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:02   computer game player since then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   like I just I don't have a good sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   like what is a playstation capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   what could you do with it but it does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:09   does seem like it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:10   option to consider as an alternative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   and yes that that whole idea of even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:16   it's not a genuine VR experience it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   might be really nice to just be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   play the equivalent of I i have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:24   like an I max screen virtually in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   of me upon which i'm playing just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27   regular game like that that might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   nice experience as well so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:32   it's interesting that but this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   is all partly why I just I just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36   saying now that like I i haven't moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:37   forward because i really need to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   down and try to think about this i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   to possibly try the HTC vive before i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   this like I need to make some decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   before I decide what I'm going to invest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:48   in for the glorious be our future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:51   also we're talking about truck simulator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:52   you saw the article that they were about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55   rescaling the game right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:57   oh yeah I definitely did I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:58   did I feel like no other podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:02   going to talk about virtual truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:05   driving so this is our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:06   responsibility i am literally opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09   itunes now to find what I'm sure must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:12   the American Truck Simulator podcast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:15   I cant cannot possibly exist i'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:18   a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:19   it cannot possibly exist for truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:21   that's illegal yeah that's the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:24   attract yeah I can't find a dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:28   and it is not going to be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:30   there's a Dago there's our next spin off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   the truck that can happen but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:36   actually of all of the ones that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:37   happen that's that's the one was likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   happen yet but yet we had when we first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:40   talked about American Truck Simulator I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:43   i was super happy with it but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:46   the thing that both of us commented on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   was that it felt small it felt like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:54   was a little bit of a a toy America when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57   you're driving between cities in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   truck simulator world that it it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:01   seemed like i forget the exact timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:04   but driving from the north the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:07   California all the way down to Las Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:10   seemed like it took far too little time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:13   and then trying to extrapolate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15   what what does this mean for how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   will a coast-to-coast journey taken and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19   what is what is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   subjective experience as the player of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:23   driving across this tiny America and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:26   that was the thing that concerned me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   most was that particularly the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   parts of America the experience of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   is that they are long right that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:35   is part of what is going on and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:38   have to say in what might be personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:41   the most exciting video game news of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:45   yeah the company making American Truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:51   Simulator announced that they are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:52   to be rescaling the map which is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:57   exciting so that it is currently on a 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:01   to 10 scale it's a 35th the size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:05   actual United States and they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07   to upscale it to a 120th scale so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:11   going to be essentially like 75% longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:14   roads once you're outside of the cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   and that to me feels just about perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19   if you take the current driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:20   distances and you make them not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:23   double but 75% bigger i am super excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:26   by it's like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:28   so ridiculously happy to see this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:33   wonder i will speculate then maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:39   was like a plan that this was that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:41   they released it on a smaller scale to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:44   get it out sooner maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   like a proof of concept that but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   exactly what I'm thinking right is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   you know it already took them so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:53   and so much time to get out california [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:56   and nevada that if they had to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:59   almost twice as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:02   that adds on a significant amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:05   time and so maybe this was a case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:07   they'll put it out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:09   well people buy this right will people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:11   buy it we know it's small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   will people care if it's small and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:16   seems like a lot of the feedback was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   is small it's like but it also sold very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:21   very well and and so you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:25   we're imagining too much of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:26   thinking ahead but i wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   surprised if this was an actual decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   of let's upscale it later if we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:36   if it's even as successful as as we hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   it will be so what is going to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   they say a trip took me like 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   it's gonna take me nearly 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:45   yeah it'll it'll take you like 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   minutes right right that that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   about what it's going to be which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:51   yeah I i think it's i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   absolutely fantastic and again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:57   this for me is just such a game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5277">TS</a>]

01:28:00   hits a particular spot and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02   that I like the most is driving on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04   highways and so this essentially doubles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   driving on the highway time and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:09   it's it's absolutely great and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11   what this announcement was super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   exciting to me and I saw it around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   time that you could download and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:17   available the Arizona beta you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:20   drive around arizona as well so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:21   just like I was like the happiest camper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23   that day like great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:24   there's a new state to drive around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   I know they're going to make this bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:27   at some point in the future i'm american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:30   truck happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:31   ok so Kourt xmas has come summer court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:35   xmas it is here is upon us cortex which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:38   means that me and you are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:41   be recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:42   thing for the whole month of August its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:45   glorious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:45   what's absolutely glorious my it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:48   those it really everybody needs some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:51   summertime off and we're gonna get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:54   summertime off now Mike you know how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:59   feel about schedules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:00   mhm how do I feel about schedules you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:03   love them I do not love lol see i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:06   if court xmas if we're taking time off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:10   cortex the show should take time off but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:14   because i work with you and because of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:18   coincidence related to relays birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:20   that is actually not what is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:21   happen this month at all i care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   the listener I I care deeply about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:29   listener to Mike if you care about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:31   mother you know right but I also care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:34   about a long summer of hashtag lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:38   travel and not fun and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   minimize work doing that but nonetheless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:43   somehow the stars have aligned so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:47   you listener will actually still get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   cortex episodes even though he did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:53   hope you won't be around to actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:55   them because months ago when we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:59   that this was going to come up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:01   there was a court xmas on the calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:04   Mike and I recorded an episode in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   advance an episode which quite frankly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:09   right now I have no idea what we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:12   about and I'm excited to listen to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:15   too evident because I have no memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17   it before like that is my feeling too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:20   like wow that this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   essentially the closest I ever get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:25   hearing an episode of the show as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:27   listener must hear it because i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:29   idea what we discussed just no memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31   whatsoever it's effectively a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:32   capsule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:33   yeah it is it's a it's a time capsule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   episode from several months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   containing mysteries to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:40   mysteries to us and that is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:44   at the end of august at some point i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:47   not exactly sure when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:48   so the end of august you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   hear an episode that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:51   is out of the time continuum and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:55   recorded a while ago and I thought okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:58   well it's it's summertime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5458">TS</a>]

01:30:59   there should be a little gap in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:01   schedule you know it's good to mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:02   things up you don't want things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:03   regular people get bored if there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:06   a regular schedule that happens all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:07   time don't you agree my kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   they do I think people are satisfied now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11   people happy people get bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:14   it's just it's just regular you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:15   mix it up sometimes and I thought okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   this is great there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:18   little gap in the schedule mix it up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20   the people write the love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   however it turned out we didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:26   until later that the summer is relays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:29   birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:30   mhm relays first birthday this year 2nd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:33   birthday second birthday this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   good what kinda happy counted i may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:38   counted correctly or incorrectly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40   that I'm zero indexing I wait I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:43   know how to fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:45   that was a boy that all negative 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:49   indexing got two years wow time goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:52   fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:52   this show has been around for over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   year oh yeah that's a good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56   that's an excellent point i guess in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:59   mind I still feel like this is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:01   thing right this is the newest project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03   so it's still only a couple months old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   even though that the chronology doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   work that way at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:08   so yes relay is to as everybody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:11   and as part of the membership program we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:16   said that there was going to be at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18   point a special episode a non cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:22   bonus episode and it just so happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:25   that it is going to be when is it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:29   to be Mike's I don't know anything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:30   going to be in a couple weeks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:33   mid-august ok mid-august that's right we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35   haven't at one hundred percent finalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37   the date at this point but so if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:40   a real a member you will get access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:44   the cortex bonus show in what should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:47   the week off but if you remember there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49   will be an episode there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5569">TS</a>]

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01:33:01   dvorak typing but yes also trucks now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:04   we're not going to be discussing any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:05   of those things there's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5585">TS</a>]

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01:33:33   upgrade if you would like to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5613">TS</a>]

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01:33:56   kill him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5636">TS</a>]

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01:34:05   you died game over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5645">TS</a>]

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01:35:07   ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkNNTic/5707">TS</a>]