Cortex 35: An Episode Out of Time 2: Out of Timer
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so listen ian has found the perfect new
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game for you
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oh yes what is it so you know in the
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past you spoken about the fact that you
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like games that feel like work you know
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like you like truck simulator 2
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factorial like work games
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yeah their work simulator games in my
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mind what we found the ultimate cgpgrey
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work simulator is called youtubers life
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you to his life is the ultimate life
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simulation tycoon via game in which you
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become the world's greatest video
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blogger in history edit videos
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expand the amount of fans and turn
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yourself into a wealthy fellow that
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sounds horrible
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super day at work imitates life imitates
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work imitates life that little little
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too close to home
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the screenshots are amazing because they
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show a bedroom with an unmade bed and
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somebody working on a computer
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remarkably by total coincidence i
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watched PewDiePie do a playthrough of
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YouTube simulator just yesterday
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oh really it showed up in that here's
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what YouTube thinks you should watch
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section they were really write the right
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like that sometimes that YouTube thing
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freaks me out because they're like oh
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yeah i know i would like to see that
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video thank you so much YouTube right
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well this this one strike me as
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particularly funny because it's it's i
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am not subscribed to PewDiePie i have
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probably watched fewer than five maybe
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ten of his videos ever and but youtube
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just knows right there little algorithms
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their data algorithms simply know hey
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we're going to suggest you a peopie
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video that you cannot possibly resist on
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clicking and they were correct and i
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clicked it and i watched it and they
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were right it was very entertaining
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video but what do you think of youtubers
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life I will never play a game like that
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it looks it looks terrible it looks like
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the kind of work simulator that I hate
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which is not really work simulator it's
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just the game randomly rewarding you at
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times with stuff i don't know I I have
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no interest in ever playing that game
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but i can recommend PewDiePie's video
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where he plays that game like he's very
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he's very funny and he turns it into a
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bizarre meta commentary on his own life
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as a youtuber so of course he ends up
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making a little character that looks
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just like him and just makes all of
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these comments about feeding the Machine
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and gotta keep going there's a reason
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that guys number one youtuber I wouldn't
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watch all these videos they're not all
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for me but anybody who thinks he's just
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an idiot playing video games in his room
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like you don't understand what this man
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is doing
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you don't understand what he's doing
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when we talk about that talent thing and
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when we were talking about a long time
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ago about having that spark and we use
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them k PhD is a an example of that from
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his first video right right little
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little tiny twelve-year-old mkbhd yeah
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PewDiePie doesn't really have a sparky
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has a fire
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yeah like that man there's there is no
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doubt absolutely no doubt whether you
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don't like these videos are not you
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cannot deny that they are well made
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their well made and that he is just
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engaging I'm engaging in this way that
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is difficult to describe
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yep yes really youtube algorithms you
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know you know what I wanted even and I
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didn't know what I wanted and what I
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wanted was watching the number one
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youtuber play youtube simulation game
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this is an episode out of time
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indeed it is Mike because from my
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perspective this is insanity because i
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just spoke to you yesterday we did we
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just did an episode yesterday we did our
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cortex versuri episode yesterday for
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people who are interested in the cortex
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annuity of the show
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I'm so proud of you right now but then
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again in service and this episode you
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are probably listening to sometime in
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july maybe august i don't even know
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where this is going to happen so people
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will be listening to this at some point
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in the late summer
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mhm months after we are recording it yep
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so this is what will be passed me
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talking to you after what is intended to
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be a very long very busy very unusual
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summer for me which is part of the
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reason why
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you're recording this well ahead of time
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but it makes the verb usage here seem
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very strange like in the future i will
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have had done things that we will
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certainly have had already talked about
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Anya shows we will record but from the
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perspective of people listening we've
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already recorded and they have already
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listened to because it's very confusing
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because in theory now looking to the
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future so that people can judge our
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predictions we have participated in real
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icon to gether right we will have been
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to relay con you have been to VidCon i
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will have been to VidCon we will is
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recorded off first in-person episode of
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that's right as well and now we are
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approaching the second annual court xmas
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very confusing it is all very confusing
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and the very fact that i'm going to
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relay khan and the very fact that i'm
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going to VidCon are things that i have
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stated publicly nowhere at this stage
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which is what makes it all the more
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exciting dimension
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it's like a fun little secret at this
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moment I i may not even mention anything
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about being at VidCon until after I have
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left I don't know we'll have to see him
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listener will already know if I did or
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didn't yep haha but that might be a
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surprise so yeah it's it's just it's a
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strange thing but we are trying to plan
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in advance for what is going to be a a
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busy summer so the reason we are
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recording this is because there's going
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to be just a ton of stuff going on and I
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know that later in the summer in
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addition to all of this crazy business
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stuff i also have a ton of family stuff
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that I'm doing later in the summer so
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this very morning for this episode I was
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actually telling up
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what is the theoretical number of
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flights that I am taking this summer and
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I haven't bought them that there's a
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there's a few events in a few things
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that are still a bit uncertain but i
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will be taking no fewer than eight and
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no more than 14 flights this summer
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my blood yeah I know it's it is quite a
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lot but that is high a little while ago
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I said Mike we need it we need to talk
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about the summer cortex schedule and
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that is why this episode is happening
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right now also because mean you have
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been for something like this already so
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last year you were away for a lot of the
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summer and we didn't prepare for it and
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it was a nightmare yet last summer last
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summer was a bit of a disaster and very
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many ways for me probably one of the
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biggest ways was that somehow i don't
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really know how but you convinced me not
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only where we going to launch cortex
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last summer but we're also going to be
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doing weekly episodes which was insanity
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I don't know how you convinced me of
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this i don't know why past me would have
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agreed to such a thing but how was way
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way too many episodes to be doing at
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once but we tried and then we had to try
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and squeeze it into a schedule and you
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are on standby flights arriving at we're
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days it was it was a nightmare so we
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also we have learned together and are
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working together over the last year or
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so and we are now recording an episode
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about time
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yes that is what this episode is but
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there is an interesting lesson in there
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i think about the whole idea of this
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thing existing is that we are
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collaborating better now than we have
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before because we now understand the
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habits and patterns of each other and we
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are working to respect those so I know
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that you'll be traveling and you know
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that I want an episode right with with
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what Mike is trying to say here
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listeners is a respected Mike knows that
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i want a bunch of time off this summer
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not the michael has a bunch of episodes
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that summer we have these mutually
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incompatible desires and so we have
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compromised on one court xmas there was
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going to be one fewer episode of cortex
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the summer and also doing this episode
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code in advance so this is the thing
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this is the compromise that we have come
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to this is another one of those CEO to
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CEO discussions that we had that we've
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mentioned in the past which again I will
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underscore the importance of anybody who
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is self-employed working with
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self-employed people that it is very
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very useful to be able to have these
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conversations so useful so useful and we
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were able to come to an agreement
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because I wanted more episodes then
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we're doing and you wanted more time
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often you have so we can take me to a
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compromise
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uh-huh yes we did come to a compromise
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because as we may discuss later in the
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episode in theory i would just like the
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whole summer off i would like the whole
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summer off to LA and I can't eat right
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that's not how it looks right but that's
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what I mean right here and that is there
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are all of these various constraints and
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things in life i do also just want to
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again reiterate your point to anybody
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listening who is self-employed works
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with the people I i really think if you
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can try to introduce the the explicit
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language like that can we will say like
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we are talking CEO to co now like do
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that as a mode shift when you're having
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a business conversation with someone it
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is hard to express how much easier and
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clearer that makes things it really
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really does
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I i highly highly recommend anybody
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working with other people like trying to
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do that try to institute that as a
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company culture in both of your
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company's it's extraordinarily
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beneficial and just makes things much
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easier but yeah so in addition to this
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being a bit of a negotiation between the
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two of us
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this is also one of these cases for me
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where it's important to know yourself
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and i found myself as this summer was
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approaching really constantly thinking
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back towards last summer and just
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realizing how last summer was a bit of a
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disaster across all fronts like this
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summer I had a bunch of family
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responsibilities and also about
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of work responsibilities so there was
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cortex is also the Helena podcast is
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also the youtube videos that I did
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there's some other business stuff and
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also a bunch of family things and last
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summer i just did a frankly terrible job
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of trying to manage all of those things
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and as a result i had a kind of grumpy
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summer I felt that I was not doing
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necessarily really great with a lot of
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the business side of things and then I
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also felt that I wasn't doing really
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great with a lot of the family
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finalize it but there's going to be a
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very energy-intensive and so i am not
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like last year going to think i can just
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experience and intentionally turn down
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time off because there's a very good
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reason because everybody needs brakes
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right and in more traditional companies
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everybody takes it and it's all done and
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you had to write it wasn't even a joke
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like this was just the thing you had to
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do and one of those brakes had to be two
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weeks right later like all things that
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like you had to do them and I know a lot
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more kind of new companies these days
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there are like these trends which on the
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face of it seemed quite good but
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actually work out to not be too great
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familiar with this
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oh man I i love i love unlimited
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vacation time I companies because this
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to me is is the embodiment of corporate
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yep but so for listeners who may be
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unaware this is a trend I feel like over
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the past few years of companies saying
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there is an unlimited amount of vacation
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time for you to take you take as much as
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you feel that you need because we the
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company we love you and we want you to
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be happy and it sounds great and I think
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especially for people walking out of
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university and into their first job like
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the end result is that without knowing
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how much vacation time is ok to take
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that people who work at companies that
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give unlimited vacation time essentially
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take no vacation time that they can
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never take time off because everybody
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has this paranoid feeling about how much
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time is appropriate to take off when is
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it okay i don't understand what the
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boundaries are and so yeah it's just is
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total total corporate evil to do that
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kind of thing but it is very important
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to make sure that you do it and that
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strange way is exactly the way that mean
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you live our lives in and with so many
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self-employed people right it's like I
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can take as much time off as I want
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because I make I call the shots but what
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happens is i think man right here so I
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am I have become better and better maybe
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in the last year
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about taking some breaks but one of the
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things that I do which is good and bad
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as a lot of those brakes have some kind
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of what component in them one that helps
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me justify a lot of it to myself and you
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as usual in those scenarios but there is
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more relaxation time occurring than
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usual as I laughing before because the
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comparison between unlimited vacation
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time companies and self-employment is
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just is perfectly spot-on and again in
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the into thinking about my upcoming
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summer which will have passed by the
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time people are listening to this and
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thinking about my last summer that's
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going on and thinking about just how I
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spend my working time I am so very much
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aware that in the past two years
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this is also an area that i have been
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just very bad at is taking time off and
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that I want to try to improve and I want
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to try to get better at but it is in no
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small part because there is a bit of a
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lull this feeling of like Oh in theory i
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could take any day off but you never
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want to take any particular day off
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because there's always stuff to do when
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you're self-employed this is this is the
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downside that we talked about it being
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self-employed that is very hard for the
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job to leave your mind or for you to
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leave the job it's always it's always
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there there's always stuff that you can
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do and you know I'll i look and look
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teacher when you had those brakes and
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there is stuff to do during the breaks
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projects or whatever but there was a way
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that you could genuinely completely
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leave the job behind for regular
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stretches of time and that was without
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doubt hugely mentally beneficial to do
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such a thing and i particularly love the
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different from in america in america you
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summer and a few short breaks throughout
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the year but in the UK it's like six
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weeks of teaching and then one week off
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weeks of
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schedule that I think I need to move
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closer to that in the future because my
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current schedule of iwork almost every
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close to two years of doing that is like
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now this needs this needs to change this
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is a thing that I need to improve upon
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have not been so great time office
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interest vacations though no it's not
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just vacations i'm thinking of vacations
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been the worst at you and I'm also
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thinking about that because I am I keep
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comparing that oh this summer would be a
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lot easier if I could just have it be
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like my summers were when I was a
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teacher that's why I'm thinking about
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vacations but i have been much better
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this past year in particular of making a
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really conscious effort that no work
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happens on Saturdays so I have
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Saturday's blocked off in my calendar as
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just no workdays think nothing's going
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to happen here
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you know i'm spending time on my own i'm
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spending time with my wife but i'm going
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to have one really dedicated day out of
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the week that i know i'm not going to
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work on that day and simply doing that
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has been much more helpful like to to
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really treat that day
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respectfully like to not just blow it
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off and it's very easy to do some
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low-level work but like no no I'm very
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serious about this
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it's again it's very funny in this way
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like when you are something you have to
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be quite disciplined with this kind of
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stuff that you have to take time off
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really seriously
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otherwise you won't do it and that is a
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thing that has has worked for me but
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like what is it that you do in in your
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schedule with regards to time off
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because you have all these shows that
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you record and it seems like you record
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shows constantly from my perspective I
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mean do you have a day in your schedule
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that is perfectly clear do you do
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something similar or how does it work
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for you know haha like well yes and no
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okay i have no
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today that is like absolutely no work
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like categorically none
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weekends are low to none mm and and that
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is a regular thing for me there might be
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some low-level work that I do on a
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just bits and bobs that pop up that I
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take care of but it's not one or the
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other for me on weekends but it tends to
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be that they are like significantly
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lower work at a point where it feels
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like I'm not working
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who's right but I know there's always
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stuff going on because our companies are
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very different from mine runs with
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people right and some and I like to be
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available for people if they need me
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of less i have two days every two weeks
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stack one week heavier than the other
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blue and i'm running some side projects
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doesn't feel so much like work and like
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that is something that I put a lot of
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focus on making sure that I do and
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care of things that people want a hug me
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for I'm able to take care of things
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where i can send stuff to people and
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they won't get back to me immediately
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and then I'm also able to relax a little
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least productive time and while i have
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off like a vacation
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much better at is is really accepting
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the afternoons as my unproductive time
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there are things that you could be
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know i'm i am accepting that this is low
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productivity time for me and if in the
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afternoon i want to sit down and I want
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that is fine because this is the time of
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day when it makes most sense to do that
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when you'd be the least effective
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working on something else anyway and you
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still struggle with it the M and funnily
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enough time so I struggle with it the
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most also times when i need it the most
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what do you mean you needed the most
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when I have a lot going on when I'm very
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it makes me feel overwhelmed and when I
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feel overwhelmed I usually need to take
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more breaks because typically when I
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have that overwhelmed feeling it's not
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as bad as I think it is and what will
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is adina will come home and I will be in
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a bad mood like usually not angry but
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upset like I feel upset won't be Mike
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grant peace might even the right word
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for liking it so it's a weird feeling of
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like maybe more vulnerable it's straight
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something is very difficult for me to
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explain but the only way that I
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overwhelmed and then she'll say to me
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tell me all the things that you have
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going on and then I'll list them and
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realize it's not as many as I think it
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is this is a very common thing maybe
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happens every few months or so but it's
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not something that I can really see
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until I'm able to express it but it's
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funny that like the more and more it
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it's in those times is typically where
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I'm not taking breaks
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mm and it's when i'm not taking breaks
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I should and then I feel like there's
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always more happening there is yeah that
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it's funny you mention that because at
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just this thing that I do fairly fairly
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regularly maybe like you maybe every
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couple of months I don't know exactly
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overwhelm Ennis and a as much before
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sometimes like just this feeling like
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there is so much to do and so little
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time to do it
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I almost like that feeling is auntie
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correlated with actually how many things
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there are to do and so just the other
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day again this is now months ago from
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whatever people on this may have
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happened three times to be known
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yeah I may have done it several times
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now but I just the other day I posted on
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things are serious when I feel the need
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to break out a second to do app and so I
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overwhelming asst i do the same thing
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that Athena is walking you through
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of let me let me not look at my normal
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system let me not look at all of my
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normal things
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let me just list what are all of the
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things that are on my mind right now
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what are all of the things that are top
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of my mind that's taking up all of this
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mental attention and what am I feeling
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overwhelmed about and it's always the
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same experience of ok once i write this
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down in a list there maybe nine things
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on that list but i often find is I'm
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feeling overwhelmed or or busy because a
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bunch of these things are new or unusual
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it's not that they're actually i may not
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actually be tremendously more busy than
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I currently am but it's just there's
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uncertainty here and writing it down on
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a list like clarifies and refined that
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uncertainty and helps get rid of that
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feeling of being too busy and too
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overwhelmed
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yeah they're there is something quite
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funny and that you talk to it to do app
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to write it down on a piece of paper but
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now I know now I i use do out for a
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little bit in the future come on we're
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living in the future but yes it's like
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having just gone through this like this
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week i had been feeling very overwhelmed
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when I wrote it all down what i realize
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is ok i am actually quite busy because
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this week i am working on a video we're
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doing these two podcast one which is the
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bank episode in the future so that is a
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thing that counts for me as a bit of oh
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this is unusual
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this is different the video that i am
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working on again I can't talk about this
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now even though it hasn't yet happened
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is a collaboration video with somebody
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else and so that also adds to the
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different pneus of the project i like
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that you said somebody else you still
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trying to god don't know why I did that
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it's a it's a it's a crossover video
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with Curtis that I don't know why on
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earth I said somebody else very proud of
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you right now that was part of my brain
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really not sure if we're supposed to
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reveal this yet but no no one will hear
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this but so that's the thing it's it's
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different
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bunch of stuff that's just related to
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finalizing and preparing for all of the
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summer travels
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now that is a busier week than normal
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but overwhelmingly the feeling of
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busyness or the feeling of overwhelming
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this is was just coming from a bunch of
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these things are different than they
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normally are
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and so when you write them all down on a
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list you can see okay this is clearer
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than I thought it was before
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yeah and this helps focus the mind on
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what you're going to do and what I also
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really like about this this process of
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writing things down in these moments is
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forcing the list to be in what order are
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you going to work on it like this
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thing that you're doing right now the
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next most important thing is below it
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I i find that is extremely helpful and I
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know I always want to use a hippie word
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like centering I don't know I i get it's
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a similar thing i have a hard time
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verbalizing the mental feeling it's like
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decluttering yeah yeah that'sthat's
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actually that's pretty good that that's
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a very similar feeling of like a
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decluttering is how much stuff is here
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really need to do is get rid of a few
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items and better arrange the items that
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you have and then you realize how it
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wasn't actually that cluttered but I
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didn't need to do a bit of decluttering
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that's that's pretty good
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that's pretty good so going back to the
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time off em so the time off the isn't
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vacations you mentioned TV shows the ICM
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you do video gaming and stuff like that
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during those periods as well yeah video
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gaming actually quite recently it's it's
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been much more TV than video games I
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always tend to go in cycles with video
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games are playing a lot then not being
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very much at all yet depends what
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weather is something out that you wanna
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play right as well yeah thats part
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that's partly it but I think it's
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there's also just something in my brain
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which is more or less engaged by that
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activity and so I think that the like
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the video game TV cycles are our
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opposite cycles that that go on so so
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yeah those are things that I do it
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if I'm feeling dizzy or I sometimes I
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feel like there's something that's on my
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mind in a in a way that is difficult to
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articulate and so that's a time when I
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also really like to just go walking
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around the city and just just kind of
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explore go to a different place got a
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shoe over something in my mind I feel
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like I often don't even know exactly
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what it is that my brain is thinking
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about but going for a long walk and
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really resolve that kind of stuff and
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again an afternoon is a perfect time for
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that kind of thing like what else am I
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gonna do
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I'm not you know I'm gonna record a
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podcast like not every day we should
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look into that
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no we should I mean we've been doing it
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for two days in a row and is one day
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more than enough
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yeah this is supposed to be fortnightly
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that's what this is supposed to be on
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this show we spend an awful lot of time
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talking about side projects as i'm sure
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many of you out there have them those
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side projects they need a website those
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websites need domain names Hoover is the
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location now why was talking to a dinner
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walk and but the walk is not the thing
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that I need
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it's not being being out of the house is
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not what I need its stimulation when
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planet right is no good for me that he's
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there's not really any benefit to me
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that I feel for doing that you know
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don't worry I'm not turning into a blob
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here so this is like an issue that i
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weeks have been uncharacteristically
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busy because of upcoming travel so is
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one of the reasons why the year of less
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actually busier than my previous busily
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want to do right so this is where the
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know when we move which is getting
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that we're looking for is to be in
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civilization as some kind
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so I won't have to have this feeling
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because I can just go take a walk and
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maybe go get a coffee in a different
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location or they take a nice walk around
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a nice place to a thing go to the store
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you know I can do all of these things
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this very frequently because I do make
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outside of the home going to visit
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people having lunches of people and
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stuff like that but it was very
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interesting to me to confirm or I
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expected would be the case which is if I
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stay in the house too long i would get
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the boredom feeling but it is funny that
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it's maybe the first time I felt this in
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the two years I've been self-employed
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hmm yes it's it's a funny thing is
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boredom is a feeling for children and
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for office monkeys that's where that
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feeling seems like it would be the most
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sent in the population and to be
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self-employed there's always something
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to do I I I think boredom
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bizarre feeling like oh I haven't felt
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this way in forever I haven't felt this
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way in a really long time
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yep that's how I was like I put my ipad
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down and I went poof
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I was like oh no haha like patting your
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legs with your hands and I was looking
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around there's nothing to do there's
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nothing to do list i have something
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later on but nothing to do right now
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I've already watched on my youtube
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videos I've already mentally and
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uncharted there's nothing to do
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yeah this like like my summer planning
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like some of the other stuff we're
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talking about now I feel like this is
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all falling into the category of this
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meta skill of observing yourself
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yeah and it is a really key skill to in
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those moments take note of your own
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mental state and what's occurring and
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that i know i think that that's sounds
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kind of obvious but I really think this
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is a learned skill to cognitively learn
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to watch yourself and then walk yourself
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through precisely what you're talking
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about here thinking like why do I feel
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bored and trend tracking it back as
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opposed to just accepting that boredom
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is a feeling that you occasionally
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experience and projecting outward like
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oh my media is not entertaining enough
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for me right now that's why I'm being
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bored like no now that's that's not what
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it is there's something there's
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something that you are doing that is
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causing this in yourself and so then you
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recognize ago I have been a housecat for
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14 days in a row now I'm feeling bored
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yeah there's there's been no external
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stimulation everything is just the same
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for everything is just media consumption
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but things really key to be able to
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recognize that in yourself and then be
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able to try to course-correct and and
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act on that I was also quite pleased
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because it proved a hypothesis that i
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had about myself
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you know and i was able to i was i was
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happy in the sense i was able to
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understand that this could happen and
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then when it did happen i recognized it
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right and it also just makes me very
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wary of allowing it to happen which is
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why you know as dead as we get closer
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and closer to the end of the year I mean
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still halfway for the year but you know
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we're about to be on the other end of
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the middle right so we're moving towards
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the end of the year
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I'm beginning already to think about
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what does 2017 look like commitments
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why's this is this is this is perfect
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thinking about so intensely and in the
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past several weeks as well it is almost
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mentally like well the rest of the year
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is is kind of set yeah i'm not going to
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make any changes now
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yeah i might do new stuff but i'm not
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going to get rid of anything because
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it's all planned it's all there also
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exists will accept it that is it there's
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a schedule in place yet but already
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thinking forward towards next year and
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like what what does next year look like
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and doing the same thing on a bigger
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scale of what is this year looks like
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what his last year look like what do you
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do again they along with the meta
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cognition that this feeling of the the
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project of a human life is to design a
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life that it wants to live like this
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this is the ultimate thing that you want
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to try to do is make your life more of a
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life that you want to live and so doing
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the same thing of thinking forward to
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2017 and thinking okay how can 2017 be
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better than 2016 what structural changes
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are there that can be made in the future
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that will place me in a situation where
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i like my life even better than I
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already liked it i think this is one of
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these things you kind of naturally end
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up thinking about because it's just
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funny that you say that you again at
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this point which is essentially not yet
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but barely halfway through the year
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you already are quite naturally thinking
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forward toward next year like that's
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just something that's that's coming
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across your mental horizons
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least accumulates and new things and I
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want to work on some new stuff so I'm
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like okay you're at the halfway point
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now and how are you feeling okay you're
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going to feel like maybe you've got a
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lot going on but wait you're not
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stopping em so it's just a case of over
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the hump time to consider what next year
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looks like and it's just like you know
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how we were talking in January about new
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year being time to reflect who i feel
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like in the same vein half-year is just
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in the time to start making yourself
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aware of next year just like a little
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mental clock thing that happens around
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like okay I've been doing this what I
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set out in January for six months now
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now just time to start preparing myself
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for what the next part looks like i
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should buy this point in the year of
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worked out if the 2016 plan was an
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effective one moving now how do i
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tweaked it to create 2017 plan right and
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the the rest of 2016 is in some sense
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correction in unless there's something
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significantly wrong in which there isn't
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say that all of this is falling under
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the year of less this is fish is this is
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why that project was set up for this
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recognizing I have been really bad at
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taking vacation time for myself and the
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last vacation time that I theoretically
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had over the summer I was not very good
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at doing that I was bad at vacationing
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uh-huh and so the year of less is in a
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larger part of way of thinking of okay
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how can i setup structures so that it is
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easier for me to take some dedicated
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amount of time off right and and but
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that but even that is like okay I need
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to get those systems in place in 2016 if
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there is any hope of rearranging
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schedules or commitments in 2017 his
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it's funny to think of these things on
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such a long term but if you don't think
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about this stuff you can't do any kind
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of course correction in our life and
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everything always takes longer than you
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think it's it's going to so that's why
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can take a whole year to think about how
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can i reduce the number of hours that i
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am working on stuff while not
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dramatically reducing the actual output
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and then if that is successful that can
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have knock-on effects towards what
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happens in the future do anything that
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you want to reveal about your 2017 like
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to see your plans you don't tell people
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about I don't have secret plans yeah so
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what are you thinking about that towards
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2017 like what what is pulling your mind
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in that direction the same thing as last
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year so that the 2016 change was cutting
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a show and reducing the shedule some
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others em so it will be the same kind of
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thing I expect like that's one thinking
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now is like okay that worked pretty well
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what can I do
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so are there any shows which would be
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natural to end at the end of the year
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and are there any shows which would be
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natural to reduce commitment in some way
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maybe who I don't change the publishing
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schedule of them but maybe there are
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parts of the process which I won't need
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I won't do anymore
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whoever that is planning it differently
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or editing it differently
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what are the the changes that i can make
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to reduce that and this is the thing
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it's not for me about reducing the
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amount of work it's freeing up time
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again Lou so I'm not looking to like do
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less and chill who you know I'm not
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getting into the grey mentality is just
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just chill i'm looking to
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juice commitments so i can do new things
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because I like working i like it a lot
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and a lot of the time off stuff that I
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do is to enable myself to be able to
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work more effectively because I give
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myself the time to relax because i know
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that helps me but in the same vein I
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also then try and find ways and other
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than if this is good or bad to turn the
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things that I enjoy into work so it all
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comes full circle
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it doesn't stop my enjoyment of those
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things i still play video games for 12
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hours but then I just doing a podcast
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episode about it and it feels like it
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was all ok right getting
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return-on-investment front retainment
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this is this is a very natural thing and
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my version of this as well is it i am I
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know that I am happier with side
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projects and other things to work on
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aside from the main things and it's
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similar thing of feeling that I want to
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be able to clear time on my schedule and
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part of that means like and I always
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have like projects that i'm thinking
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about maybe this would work out maybe
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this this would work out
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I'm filtering them all now through the
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year of less filter that if they're
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successful other people need to be able
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to do the morning to be able to pass the
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monitor they need to be completed things
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again very happy to have that mental
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filter in place but i'm still very much
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in the mindset of as well freeing up
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time and very consciously not working on
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any of those side projects until I have
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freed up a significant number of hours
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but then the thing that I'm also
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wondering about is I agree with you that
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that vacation time is necessary recovery
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time and recognizing like I haven't been
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good at that and so feeling is there a
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way to aggregate a bunch of these hours
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together so that in the future at some
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point i can say i am taking a legitimate
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one hundred percent week off
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I'm doing nothing and i am going to feel
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glorious about it and that will be ok
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and then after that recovery period
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going back into the regular schedule
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because
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even though again our very first episode
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very aware that I am still in the
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category of the kind of person who if I
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don't have something to work on
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I would go crazy like I i need to have
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some kind of work to do and without that
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it would just be a descent into madness
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there always has to be stuff to work on
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but there's the interesting question of
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how do you rearrange hours in the day
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how do you how do you arrange your time
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to be most effective so that you can
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work on the things that are of interest
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to you and that are also hopefully
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profitable in some way to pay the bills
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and to fulfill all of the various
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financial obligations that we all have
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what is a great vacation or a great
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vacation if you will let me hit here's
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the thing those trips to Amsterdam which
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we have made fun of various times on
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this show locations
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yeah those were in a way my attempts
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this year to try to do a vacation sort
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of but i knew i wasn't able to actually
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take time off to do nothing but I found
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those very interesting experiences
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because i was working in a very very
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focused way but I also felt like I am
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getting a lot of the same benefits that
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I would get from a vacation and I think
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this is this is just simply the again
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knowing yourself and knowing how to work
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with yourself and because i am quite
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naturally and an introverted person
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those trips were intentionally arranged
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so that I'm not really talking to
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anybody when I'm there and I was also
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very consciously minimizing as much as
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possible my communication with the
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outside world and so those were really
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interesting experiences to me of i feel
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like i am able to have some kind of
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recovery
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while still working as long as i am very
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conscious about being aware of what are
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the things that are most draining to me
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and it's like oh ok well one of those
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things are unusual or new social
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engagements or more thing or things like
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the podcast where this is not an unusual
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or new social engagement but there is
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there is something about this which is
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always a bit mentally draining in the
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same way because there is the awareness
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of the audience that is listening like
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this is a thing that is going out into
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the public world this is not mike and i
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just meeting for lunch conversation so
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those trips are really interesting and I
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think oftentimes many people's idea of
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what a vacation might be like oh we're
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going to go away with a bunch of people
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to a fun place like that can actually be
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hugely draining for me like that's
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what's that is what is going to happen
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of the family obligations that i have is
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to any outside observer the the
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activities that i am doing they will
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look like vacations but i will be
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totally exhausted by them
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it's like oh I don't i'm not doing a
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whole lot of work there's just a whole
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bunch of hanging out with people and
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like oh there's things to do and
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activities to participate in and this
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looks like a vacation but it is not it
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is not if you are me so I think for me
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vacations at their best are always about
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limits inactivity or very conscious
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choices about what is being engaged in
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that that that to me is what a vacation
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is that is what I feel like is the the
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best return on investment per hour spent
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of recovery received so is Amsterdam the
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best type of vacation and all is it
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sitting on a beach for you all that kind
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of holiday the not doing anything all
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day what's best then if it's like low
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low social interaction and low work
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interaction is you know the Amsterdam is
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high work interaction
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yeah I this is this is what i'm trying
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to think about towards towards for next
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year is like how am I going to do this
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is an Amsterdam type trip is very
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effective because it is it is high work
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but low social interaction high recovery
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but i still need trips or vacations
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every once in a while that have some
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period of time which is just absolute
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nothingness and so last summer which was
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which was quite busy at the end of the
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trip the best decision that my wife and
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I made was that after a whole bunch of
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things we were doing a place we're going
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like things to do we intentionally
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scheduled a mini post vacation recovery
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time by going to Las Vegas and we just
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rented a nice room in Las Vegas and did
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nothing for a few days and it was just
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glorious and and that was a real kind of
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like this is this is great i can i can
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relax i can just there's nothing to do i
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need this every once in awhile of
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there's no responsibility
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there's no getting up there is no
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writing is just a total break and
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because that is a thing that went really
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well last summer that is actually what
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we're planning on doing again this
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summer is like I have this incredibly
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unusual busy summer but at the very end
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of it the last thing that we're going to
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do is we are once again we're going to
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go to Las Vegas we're renting a nice
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we're going to spend a few days there
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and we're just going to do nothing and i
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feel like i need i need a little bit
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more of the do nothing at all time in my
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life that i currently have like I feel
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over the past two years in particular I
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had two little do nothing time I don't
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need a ton of it but i need some of it
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on a one as honest um somewhat of an
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interval that it doesn't just randomly
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it doesn't just randomly occur but now
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this is one of these cases where I
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imagine Mike that you might be a little
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bit different from me in this scenario
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see once a year or twice a year
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much like going to America and is
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usually nice places in America that i'll
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I do it's very few and I've tried exam
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planned very differently to hopefully
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happened but maybe it was rather a be it
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wasn't ok we'll find out and adjust
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again recording with you was an
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unexpected thing on the calendar by hey
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huh that's how these things go
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it's all about cooperation and I do like
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don't really plan for those as much who
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happening and then maybe i will take
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trips of her
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to Romania and we'll see friends but it
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you know we are thinking again for later
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this year to maybe take a trip with my
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family which will be a do-nothing
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location because i feel like i could do
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that like when i take family vacations
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or have taken or would take family
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vacations I would feel way let's
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obligated like do stuff with my family
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is an obligation within you to when
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you're on a family vacation family
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activities i don't really do that and my
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family understand that about me which is
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actually quite interesting they're going
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talking about this is i may be more you
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with my family then you
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with my family then you
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haha yeah with my immediate family there
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is no obligation to really do things uh
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I have a very small family Z so I think
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that's why I'm able to get away with it
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but people tend not to bother me and my
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family with stuff because they know i
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just have no tolerance for it which is
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quite nice
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anything like that and if we don't do
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that trip I would very much before the
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end of the year like for us to do a
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do-nothing vacation the house buying
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process might kind of get in the way of
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that arm but yeah I i like to try and do
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that as well but the majority of my
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vacations are centered around some kind
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together
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engaging was a few years ago my parents
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it so well it's not actually a whole lot
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actually that's a benefit
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I like this there's there's not really
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any internet to use there's very little
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book and watch the scenery go by and the
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oh because it's relatively small I keep
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bumping into my parents right you can't
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you cannot run into people and it's it's
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almost yeah yeah and in this really
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constrained but enjoyable way and
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there's always something to like remark
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past interesting places and i just i
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a to have a trip that just totally felt
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like recovery time but also had the
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thing that is beneficial and best about
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traveling which is novelty like your
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brain needs some kind of novelty
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otherwise you become like Mike was your
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board or you feel like you're an indoor
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cat and I don't know is that i found
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that was just a really great interaction
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like this is this is this is just
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philosophical on this episode Mikey this
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do you feel that it is weird right I
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feel way more raw than usual yeah i'm
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looking for a very strange it is Rhys a
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good word maybe the continuity somehow
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maybe when were out of continuity
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everything just go out the window
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yeah but it almost feels like i'm just
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i'm here in my office just floating in
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the black void of space talking into a
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microphone that that is the feeling of
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this episode is where my perspective
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because I don't wear so much uncertainty
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yeah what will have happened to our
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lives in between now on this episode
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being released we don't even look
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been it's been very strange this episode
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out of time and I think and we need to
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try to try to get ourselves back into
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the regular space-time continuum with
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some normality and I think we should do
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that with a little bit of ass cortex
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that's a great idea let's bring the
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people back to us yeah yeah that's what
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it is this is like calling out in the
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void into the other voices that have
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spoken to us please tell me that you
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have some ass cortex questions ideal
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agreement i do and the first ones from
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kevin i look at that your voice is even
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normal now or he's not happy again if
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the normal Mike voice okay Kevin would
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like to know what is your relationship
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with magic the gathering apparently
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kevin has recognized some references in
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the video almost wondering if you have
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played and if you do play
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do you know what Matt Magic the
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it is yes a trading card game okay yeah
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yeah magic is a trading card game it is
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i I'm I'm not it is one of the first I
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history of these actual things of
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collectible card game I feel understands
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the one though right
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like it is the trading card game it
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feels like the progenitor of the modern
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idea you know what trading card games
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some article in some physical magazine
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to some game shops that I could buy
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these cards
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these card games are set up to be like
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drug habits that he might he's you can
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start out by just over here you go you
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expansion packs and then next year they
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come out with a more powerful version of
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the drug and so you have to buy more
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expansion packs if you want to you want
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game and I really liked it
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magic just super fit the kind of thing
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cards and the systems of it I really
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play this came i always have to play it
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i'm not super into it as an adult in no
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small part because there have been so
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many expansions and so many add-ons that
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the game is horrific really complicated
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now if you haven't been following it
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every year with all the little changes
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that they make but yeah
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magic the gathering quite like it got
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into it as a kid and if i can make a 15
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years out-of-date magic the gathering
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reference in my videos i'm not gonna
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pass up on that you have a plane hast on
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hearthstone is really fun
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have you played hard stone yeah I I've
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have played and suck so bad
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listen there's never a discussion about
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how good we are at these things it's
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just a question of have you played yeah
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I have played heart hearthstone is for
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listeners it's to me it feels like the
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next generation of magic the gathering
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it's it's all on the ipad or on desktop
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is its cross-platform yeah right i
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always forget that it's on desktop yeah
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it's a collectible card game but what I
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love about it is they so understand that
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nobody has physical cards here it is the
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abstract idea of a card and it allows
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them to do a lot of really interesting
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things digitally with the game
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hearthstone is a thing that is i slide
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in and out of but i think it's it's
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really fun but hard stone totally killed
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my ability to play magic because all of
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the things that you learn in magic that
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make you a good magic player i think
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hard stone was designed specifically so
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that all of your magic habits will just
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be like sliding a knife into your own
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gut when you play the game if you play
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it like i love i love magic based card
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games let me play hearthstone and it's
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well i'm going to die immediately
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everything that I would do in magic
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which would be a more smart strategic
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move will get you killed immediately a
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hearthstone
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so I I think I'm probably never going to
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go back to playing magic because once
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you do hearthstone it's it's hard to go
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back but it's super fun i really like it
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and I it's fun to play people
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anonymously online i'm not very good at
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all but i don't care like that's not the
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point is to be good
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the point is I'm doing something fun
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while I'm sitting on the couch in
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trading card game physical trading card
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game of a plate was the Pokemon Trading
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Card Game of course which was awesome
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they even made a gameboy version of the
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card game which was great to Pokemon
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Trading Card Game yeah it's still going
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it's still a very popular trading card
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game is still making it and still
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produce impacts and stuff like that
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I i used to play it with my friends you
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know during the whole massive pokemon
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mmm yes that's the only one I've ever
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played but i remember when i would buy
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my packs that magic were always in the
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same cases from the places that i bought
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them from that's how I know about magic
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because it was always there when I was
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buying the booster packs for the pokemon
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I'm so i was looking at ya when you
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gonna get that shiny Charizard that was
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the cars and that was the card
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oh and of course i just realized
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everyone will want to know all the magic
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players will want to know when I played
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magic my preferred colors were blue and
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so yeah fun memories to play the pokemon
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game very much anymore
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no I I don't even have any cards anymore
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like I don't know where they are had a
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big collection cards used to love it i
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still have a box of magic cards at my
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parents house that they have in a box of
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a bunch of like stuff from when I was a
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kid I expect to love my pokemon cards or
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my grandma's i find it really hard not
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to look through them when I remember
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that they exist like I just pull them
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out and look at them and I guess I
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remember setting up this deck
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I guess this wasn't in this is a really
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fun deco this is the little good
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combination
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it's just a thing that my mind likes to
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turn over and over that you can escape
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some of that stuff now I have a question
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I've been wanting to ask you just
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because it's going to be so difficult to
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ask the question
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oh ok so this comes from Allen and Allen
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says when gray uses this face then
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inserts character
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where does that face come from do you
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have it locally and copy and paste it
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onto google it every time
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now how would you describe the face
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character Allen has used to send it to
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me over I message
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how would you describe this face
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character what is this this is the face
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of disapproval
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uh-huh that's what this faces now it's
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not an emoji write it in a text-based
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it's more I guess it's not an emoji it's
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an old-school emoticon
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yeah back in the day we used to build
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our little facial expressions out of the
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characters that we had available
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you're not that much older than me ice
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to do this we didn't have people just
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drawing emoji for us we had to build
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them with our own hands my autism and
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created the emoticons and of course of
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nature would think oh you're right to
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artisanal now something artisanal we're
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just chilling them out of characters
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what is this physical is it got a name
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that you know I think it's just called
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the disapproving face i'm going to check
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out right now
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so where does it come from for you when
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you use it you have like a text expander
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stupid or something
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it's official name is called the look of
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disapproval em and if it'll be an it'll
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be in the show notes
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anybody who's ever been on read it will
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know exactly what we're talking about
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yes it is this stern-looking emoticon
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face with little horizontal mouth and I
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think they're ty symbols or something
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which are the eyes but that end up just
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looking like eyes that are staring into
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your soul with furrowed brows but I came
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I came across this on reddit you know
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ages and ages ago and i think that it is
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just an absolute perfect emoticon for
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very many situations and so i have it
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set up as one of those at the sinking
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keyboard shortcuts that Apple has yes so
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i can i can whip it out at the
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appropriate moment immediately that sort
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of my type i don't even know I just
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built into my
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now thinking about it don't do it okay
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what am I type I type D is Q and that is
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my little shortcut for disapproval face
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mhm and so the the moment that I need to
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over the internet glare at someone with
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a disapproving face
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I have it right at my fingertips room 33
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ask are there any side projects that
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gray wishes would have been the big
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things take off instead of YouTube
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that's an interesting question the the
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thing that's that's tricky to answer
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about that is to express appropriately
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my feelings towards all of the projects
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that I worked on and my feelings of them
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is I love them as much as they have been
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successful and so like I really like the
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YouTube project because it has been
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really successful and I'd I don't have a
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feeling toward any of the past projects
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of oh I wish this one had been the one
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to catch on
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it's more feeling like I worked on this
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thing for a while and it didn't really
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go anywhere and then I moved on to the
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next thing and so no I don't I don't
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look backward on it and in that way it
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i I don't know if this is the best
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analogy but i always think of it as like
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placing bets on a table and so this
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question is almost like asking do you
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wish that any of the bets that you had
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previously made had paid off so well I
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think you're thinking about this in the
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wrong way if you know you're placing a
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bunch of bets and you're hoping that
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some of them are successful and then you
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are happy when one of them turns out to
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be successful but you don't you don't
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think about like oh that black 32 six
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weeks ago I really wish that had been
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the one I guess it's much more of a like
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a system than it is a series of events
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that that's kind of where I think about
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it yet because it was always about which
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one will be the one to provide the the
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result you're looking for right which
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was to be able to control my own
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schedule
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well and work on my own right like that
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was the thing that I was aiming for and
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the various projects were different
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attempts to to try and get there like I
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did you know maybe we maybe we can talk
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about it in more detail on some future
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maybe past show I don't know what we
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will have spoken about it but i think
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the the closest thing that it to that is
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a feeling of it was actually frustrating
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more for some of the projects that were
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partially paying off because i feel like
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those were things that sucked up a lot
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of my time because it felt like our man
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if I can make this a little bigger
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this will be great and so in some sense
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i prefer the things that i worked on
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that were immediately obviously terrible
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ideas that just didn't work whereas i
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had for a while there I had a few things
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that I was working on was like I'm
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learning a little bit of money from this
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and I'm running a little bit of money
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from that and I had this is this very
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frustrating feeling of like like can I
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just Kabul this together or can I make
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this twice as big and so those in a
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sense were bets that in a way we're like
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more unsuccessful than my just
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straight-up unsuccessful bets because
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they were not winners and they also took
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up a bunch of my time
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all right Tobias wants to know if we
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make all beds every morning I already
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know from surprising you on facetime
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that one time should have seen this
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that you do not make your bed every
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morning I don't make my bed everyone
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one of the great pleasures in my life is
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the fact that it doesn't bother my
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girlfriend about if that is made you are
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a lucky man then that never of us seem
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to care about it every now and then
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we'll do it but like hang on a second
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ya know it's an absolute disaster right
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now it's right behind you right now it's
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right behind me right now we're both
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pretty cool about that i think it maybe
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she's I don't know harboring some kind
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of resentment towards me that I'm not
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aware of yet great power point is idea
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it's very possible i think everyone in
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my life has some kind of resentment
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towards me now I've got some data that
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says so right now but no I don't make my
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bed every morning I bet you do
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so you I used to not because I used to
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fall under the category of what is this
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matter i'm just going to mess it up
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later anyway yeah him and I think that
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is there's a totally reasonable position
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my camera i came across it but at some
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point i came across on a podcaster some
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something someone was really selling the
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idea of you need to make your bed every
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morning and I'm always open to trying
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stuff like I can't remember what they
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said but whatever they said it I felt
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like it was convincing and so I went
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through a period where i was going
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through an effort of making sure that
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the bed was made every morning and say
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oh this does seem to have intangible
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benefits that I cannot quite quantify
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that do make making the bed worthwhile
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it's again hard to put into words but it
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feels like it is definitely something
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and so I now do try to make the bed in
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the morning if it is unmade there's a
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there's a little bit of a little bit of
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a thing here with the morning schedule
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that I am usually up and out of the
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house before my wife is even awake and
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then it depends on like she has varying
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schedules about when she needs to be
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someplace in the morning so sometimes
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she makes the bed sometimes she doesn't
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have time and if i come home and i see
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the bed is unmade i will sometimes try
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to make it like what I don't know like
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randomly sometimes the better
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we made it sometimes it will be unmade
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but the thing that my wife has noticed
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is that i am not perfectly consistent
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about making the bed in a way that I
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don't notice but of course she is aware
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and she is able to use the maid miss of
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the bed as a proxy for how on top of his
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life does my husband feel night Mariano
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home line right there my friend that's
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exactly it
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so I don't know maybe maybe
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intentionally she leaves the bed unmade
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sometimes as like a little test to see
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is he feeling really busy and
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overwhelmed right now so overwhelmed
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that he's not going to make the bed or
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is he feeling totally on top of things I
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guess I'll know when I'll come home
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maybe that's what she does
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I don't know gray yeah it's a trap
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