Cortex 41: Spiralling
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ready set go
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we do now why is that funny to you
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well I would you say ready set go I'm
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telling me that it's it's time to do the
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that's what I'm doing d usually mute
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yourself when you say that I don't
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usually don't usually say it but no you
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go into mental marker that ok now the
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show is beginning like it don't you
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I don't need to say ready set go to
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myself no I don't need that
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okay well you're better podcaster than I
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on your marks yeah mark get set go all
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right Mike
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where is my my curly vlog well I thought
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that I thought these things were up on
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sundays i understand from you from you
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of all people the incredible importance
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of schedules yet there was there was no
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blog this weekend
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I cannot believe that you're the first
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person to say this to me like of
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everyone in the world to ask where's the
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vlog I think I'd really didn't think it
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would be mister mister schedule over
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well here's here's the reason I'm asking
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it's your fault for setting up these
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expectations but it's that they're on a
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regular basis
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I know you said you said that you had
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like your little get-out-of-jail-free
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phrase whatever it was you're like oh
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frequent but not something i don't even
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remember what it was that you said you
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know then you go ahead and upload at
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like the same time on the same day for
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four weeks in a row and so now you've
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set a schedule and so now you have
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failed to meet my expectations and I'm
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disappointed the uploading on the
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Sunday's was just because the only time
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i had to work on the videos was the
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weekend right it was like what is done
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by sunday because now i'm going to get
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to back to work on Monday which is fun
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actually because it makes it feel more
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like a side project in a weird way like
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I'm stealing like my weekend evening
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hours to do it right but no i haven't
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done one this week because we finally
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have the keys to the house
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hey we have we have the key to cortex
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cottage
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wow that was that was a hell of a Zeno's
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paradox getting closer and closer to
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those keys from my messages that you
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were sending me all
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yeah it was always like it's two months
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away right and then two months pass and
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it's it's one month away than one month
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passes and you lose two weeks way like
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we're getting closer but not right that
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was that was my experience watching you
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go through this i just had this like
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mental image of the estate agent was
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handed me the keys and they would drop
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the keys and then every time I went to
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pick up the key so I kicked them this
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was like the way my brain there is
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Persephone is it just every now and then
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I'd been outside of just kicked it away
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again and it just you know further and
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further but we finally have the keys
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wow that is that is exciting so are we
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recording from mega office right now
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we were supposed to be 0 because we were
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supposed to record like three days ago
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uh-huh but i have spent the week with
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contractors and then the contractors
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needed more contractors who needed more
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contractors who needed lots of
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contractors
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yeah it just kept going and going and
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going there was an apprentice at one
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point i'm being totally serious
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oh god that's not what you want to hear
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right it's like subcontractors all the
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way down
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fine i understand this you know this is
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how you how you build things and you
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know why build one when you can build
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two for twice the price but you don't
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want the apprentice the apprentice feels
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a bit like I don't know anymore
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looks like your situation so bad
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somebody can learn from it
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yeah it's actually i was i was just was
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just in the in the doctor's office and
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they there was a big sign up saying that
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there wasn't a not an apprentice but
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like a trainee but it might as well have
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said like we have the magician's
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apprentice today
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yeah and because like i don't know how i
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feel about this also as well like I
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completely have faith in the plumbers
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that we haven't but every now and then
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when I walk around the corner and the
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apprentice putting the pipes in also can
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you just not like switch over every time
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you hear the door open right so like I
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only see the fully-qualified plumber put
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my pipes in is that ok can we do that
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please yeah even though like she glue
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she knew what she was doing at one point
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of time according to had a blowtorch and
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I was like your heart a lot better
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everything that I am but you're handling
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a blowtorch right now and
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not really sure why but good luck to you
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so it has been a tough week i had an
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entire set of equipment ready including
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a macbook adorable which is probably the
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best computer in the world
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oh that doesn't run iOS of course
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because we know the ipad to get king but
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that thing is it's incredible it's it's
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like barely a computer is this is
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nothing there is amazing i love it I
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love it
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wow what a convert I couldn't believe it
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I had it for like a day and then I added
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a show on it and it was fine
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who's absolutely fine and it also weighs
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nothing
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yes I get that it's the nothing is
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computer you can possibly own it's
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incredible and it's gold of course of
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course we got a gold one and it has
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stickers on it and it looks incredible
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already so I had all this equipment
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ready to record from there and it was
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gonna be this like funny episode where
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is like all this echo and like I'm
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sitting on the floor button but no we
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couldn't do it because the situation
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kept getting worse and worse and I was
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there for two straight days in a room on
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a chair with a little table in front of
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me that have been left from the previous
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people on my own with just things
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happening around me for two straight
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days so just contractors coming in the
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Apple painting
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yep and then have electricity hums
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however as pipes were falling out the
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wall and it you know it just
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everything's fine and it's good now it
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was not good for a while but like it's
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ok now but it's just meant that this
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week has been an absolute disaster
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yeah justjust that the listeners
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understand when mike says pipes were
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falling out of the wall that is not an
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exaggeration
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there was a situation where a pipe
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literally fell out of a wall
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yeah it did that one hundred percent
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happened he just touched it and it fell
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off so it's been it's been a week so far
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like it's what day is it today is
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Thursday Wednesday Thursday Thursday
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today it feels like it's next wednesday
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right I i thought like it's weird in a
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way like the buying process was it was a
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time suck but it was completely
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different to this one because the buying
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process was short bursts of my
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I'm spread out over an incredibly long
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period who little this this part with
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like the getting the house ready is
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intensely long periods of time
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who over two days it's felt way worse
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that way because I've I've lot like
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completely lost multiple days of work
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but it's nearly there and not in the way
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of like the house buying process nearly
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there because all of the bad stuff is
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taken care of now
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yeah see the thing is though I like I
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don't even want to jinx it by saying
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when do you think you're going to be
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moved in but it's just like but you
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never this you're still you are still
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deep in unknown unknown territory here
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right like you think all of the bad
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stuff is over but now that you are
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actually in the house you'll find out if
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that's true that there is a thing we
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will be moved in
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give or take him for weeks because we
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had no choice we have to leave this
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house so okay
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the house may not be ready but ok but we
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can't be here anymore so we're going to
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be ejected from your current location
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and then you need to land somewhere so
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you will be in the house and four weeks
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exactly because the house i'm sitting in
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right now has been sold
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okay i don't think they will want us to
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be here
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no probably not probably not the new
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owners will not want you there
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no they can't you see I'm recording in
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here get out you need to be really quiet
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I don't care that this is your bedroom I
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don't care just get out of here so that
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is the current situation
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it has been a hellacious and relatively
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expensive week let me so far
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which brings us to our next item on the
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agenda today we have a new t-shirt for
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we're bringing back the monkey brain
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haha that this is a t-shirt design that
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many people have asked for
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so we are bringing it back and it's
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currently on sale for three weeks
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it is a limited edition variation of the
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monkey brain shot and we have take we
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have rejected him from the circle that
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he was once contained in and he is now
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adorned on the just of the shirt in
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monkey brain glory and we have we have a
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working title for the shirt
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called the cortex collagen tradition
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monkey brain t-shirt but you have to
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understand listeners like really has
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bought a house
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yep and really does have expenses that
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need to be covered
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it's like you to do I mind my own
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business i get messages from mike about
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like time for a t-shirt I go why and
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then I hear a long story about a boiler
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that ends in total horror right total
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horror and large unexpected expense and
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so I said yes Mike I think not only not
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only do we need to have a t-shirt but i
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think that this t-shirt really does need
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to be dedicated to the cortex cottage to
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Mike's new house and solving some
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serious problems for him so please
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listeners and you should really buy one
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of these for Mike now I want to make
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something super clear
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uh-huh if nobody bought this t-shirt I
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would be okay right
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we would be fine but if everyone places
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t-shirt
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I'm in a much better situation if it's
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not like Mike loses the house if you
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don't buy the t-shirt but Mike will feel
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a lot better if you do we had some
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severely unexpected costs and and if
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they are able to be covered that would
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be brilliant
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that would be very nice it would make me
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super happy
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so we've made a really nice t-shirt and
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there is a a a house icon on the back of
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it and very tiny so you know that you
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have supported cortex cottage there is
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whoever that editor was but I still
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cities and then it cuts off a can see
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gray this is I mean I know the psycho is
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your footage looks so much better and
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of you and doing the like look at me i'm
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walking around shooting a blog like I
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making sure to always keep your face in
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the center which is almost like magic
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witchcraft levels of Technology now but
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it's it's very cool and i think i can
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even as someone who is not a vlogger
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like I can totally recommend this as a
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piece of equipment if you're thinking
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about this
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my favorite thing that it does you can
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say to it i want a time lapse from here
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point and I want two minutes of footage
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put in you clip it in leave it and it
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will just move on its own and it gives
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it's awesome i did some of that stuff in
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my Island video they could just getting
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like the kinda time-lapse videos of the
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mountains and stuff we got to put it
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down and just let go
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it's brilliant I really love it this is
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not a sponsorship nobody ji we're
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father just isn't what i would do one
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but the so give us a call
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to drown because of course I do
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and the Maverick looks really impressive
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so send me one
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shameless Mike yeah I really think it
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looks cool and super expensive and I as
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we have already out late I can't justify
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that right now
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so how are you doing this how are you
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making these videos like everybody
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listen to the show knows that it takes
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you forever to put video together even
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with your new process of having an
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animator the scripts we have establishes
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take you months at best I can I don't
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understand how you're doing this
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based on your own kind of very stringent
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requirements that you set for yourself
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I mean okay well let's just let's take a
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look at the ones that i uploaded to them
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the real youtube channel not the cg b
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grade to youtube channel you know right
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where i upload an interesting things so
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this was this was interesting because
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the two little Electoral College follow
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up video that I did were actually now
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the first time I have animated something
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in three videos worth of time you can't
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tell i think i think you really can't
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oh no you can you review you can tell ya
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I'm used to the new style now grey I
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gonna say no the new the new thing is
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uh-huh i'm and and so I had they were
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really animated because i was partly
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them so that was very easy to do mean
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that the first one where I'm just simply
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commenting on the fact that the number
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of times the electoral colleges had this
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strange result has increased you know
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morning of the election results from my
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really simple to do I mean here's here's
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a funny thing which is the longer video
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title like read the trouble with the
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electoral college that was that was just
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a case of I was really trying to write a
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whole new video about the Electoral
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amount of stuff that I wanted to say
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no way that I could do this in the
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timeframe that I would want to do it and
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i kinda shelved this big update to the
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Electoral College video but then pretend
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thing that we discussed last time like I
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thinking about a couple of parts of that
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video and so the the follow-up thing
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of the same process that produce the
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rules for rulers now in the case of the
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rules for rulers like I'm really happy
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with this video that I produced that I
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couldn't let go that kind of drove me
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crazy for a while but I i think that the
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the the update video is is the flip side
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period of time
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published i can see all of the writing
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like but it was produced in a day
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that I had written i rewrote it as a
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animated in the afternoon and then put
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it up on the YouTube channel and then I
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felt like free right I feel like okay
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brain you can let go of this now we've
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done a thing
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it's not a very good thing but at least
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like you you you can let this go are we
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can stop thinking about this for now and
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we can come back to it and do it
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properly at some point down the road but
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but that's what was occurring here also
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for various reasons this probably isn't
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the right time for that video in a weird
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yeah I like I can't even I can't even
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judge if it is or not like who knows
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like it's from a perspective of catching
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the zeitgeist of course it is but to do
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an objective video when you look at that
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it's probably not the right time for it
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yeah it might be better to wait until a
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period in which nobody really cares
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about politics and then try to release
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the thing I i don't know i don't know
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happen in the working process where you
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can see the like different outcomes that
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result from the same process and I think
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like an astounding example of opposite
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results from the same fundamental thing
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like sometimes I can't let a thing go
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sometimes a 20-minute video pops out of
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that which took six months right
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sometimes form a half minute video took
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a day again did they spoke extremes at
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the same thing
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yeah and also wildly varying quality
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levels like it'sit's just it's
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interesting to see but it's like I keep
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I keep sort of joking online that that
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video was way more about catharsis guy
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just like I need to do this so that i
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can let it go right and then and that's
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up in a relatively short period of time
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is funny to see when you go on these
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vents the you know like I'm glad I'm
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glad it's funny for someone because it's
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not funny for me it's like not funny
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ha-ha right but it's it's just like
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every now and then I'll see you do a
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thing and I just know that your illness
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you're in a state
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you know like you set up a whole new
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reddit to help you trying combat some of
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this like I just I just watch you you
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just spiral and then come back again one
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day you're gonna fall down that hole and
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I don't know what I'm gonna do to that
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point i'll just keep watching you from
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can sort of forgot that I set up the
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second read it and I do like someone
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pointed out to me like you know you've
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done this before set up an alternative
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really collect totally forgot oops
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yeah it's you know bursts of activity
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and you know right right now I feel like
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a a burnt-out shell of a human being at
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the moment is is what has happened on
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like really just a lot
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relatively short period of time we go
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watch that dog video people it's like
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that yeah thats what its last that's the
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real money you know just go wash the dog
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video remember last time we were talking
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about Steve Jobs and the Apple board and
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the end of looking at how he put his
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keys into place
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Sasquatch Yeti on the reddit provided
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some some follow-up that I wanted to to
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read so they said i remember reading
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about this in the water
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isaacson biography and the story is more
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bold than great imagined who I know
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right after job tried to make his first
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change to the board and they wanted to
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study it for two months before
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implementing it he called them we
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couldn't save the company if he wasn't
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going to get the support he needed he
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demanded that everybody quit or he would
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resign immediately so the board all
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resigned at once except one guy that job
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said could stay then he replaced all of
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these people with people have his
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choosing he knew he had all the leverage
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because who wants to be on the board
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that brought Steve Jobs back to Apple
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then lost him again
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interesting and the company was doing so
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badly at that point that they would
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absolutely get blamed for continuing to
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tank after landing jobs go they needed
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him more than they even needed their own
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board seats that is a fascinating
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additional detail there of how was it
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that he was able to manipulate the board
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of directors to be so on his side yet
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because it was just basically it's it's
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blows up right and in addition to that
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the board had already brought him back
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yep and it would look terrible if he
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quit and they're all calculating for
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their future careers
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members of other companies if that is
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story because the stars are all aligned
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beautifully romantic story who the man
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that would totally have tanked the
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have spent a ton of time on this show
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talking about email
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oh yeah and that what we have right like
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I think it's like if you if somebody was
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to to really kind of outline the major
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themes of the show email has definitely
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been one of those things
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mm and I think it's because and I think
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there is an element that everybody can
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relate to because if you work in any
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kind of company email is a big part of
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it right no matter what you do e-mail
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kind of it just has its way of just
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putting its tendrils out to touch every
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part of your life whether you like it or
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yes it can be all-consuming did you hear
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about the to-do about the disaster with
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the NHS and their email system i saw
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some headlines about as funny as i saw
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this headline on on hacker news i think
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ya up and I didn't pay much attention to
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it but as i mentioned i was just
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recently in a doctor's office and when I
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was there I was overhearing the two
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secretaries complaining about this thing
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that occurred I was like okay I see what
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happened here essentially somebody
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accidentally sent out a message to all
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of the two million plus members of staff
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who are on the NHL email list which also
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includes like return generally related
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industries like there's tons of doctors
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who work in private practice who would
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also get this message just like okay so
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a message went out with two million
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recipients and then what everybody was
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caught in is reply all so hope
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with two million people there ended up
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being a million people replying saying
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this message wasn't supposed to be for
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me right there replying all and then
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other Ben's like you can see what
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suddenly happens and the the two
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secretaries I was overhearing them say
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that they've got a call from someone at
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the NHS like trying to tell everybody
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individually how to sort out this
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problem like don't reply to any of these
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messages like we just need to delete
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them we meet like this is this is a
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terrible half-life situation we need to
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make it go down as fast as possible but
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but quite legitimately they were saying
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that their inboxes were filled with
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hundreds and hundreds of a relevant
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messages surrounding the actual
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legitimate messages hundreds has to be
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understating it
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what I mean is hundreds between each
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legitimate message
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oh right so list of his weaknesses but
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for envelope
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it's like what do you do what do you do
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anyway that's one that's one of the joys
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of email reply off of my favorite things
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is when you get caught one of those and
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then somebody replies all saying please
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take me off this
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yeah you are contributing to the problem
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you're trying to solve it's infuriating
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and and i keep saying half life because
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like this is this is the real situation
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and I'm i remember a the graduate school
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that I went to it it took me years to
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get off some reply-all emails chain that
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it happened while I was there right and
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it's just like it was just like much
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smaller scale but a similar thing of you
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know somebody sent out a message to
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everybody who was in the graduate school
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department which ended up being just a
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ton of people and people were applying
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all about taking off an argument was
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like you know a big burst in the
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beginning but i remember years later
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still getting someone replying all to
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this entire list you know complaining
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about the existence of the list is like
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you're the problem
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you're the problem don't reply all like
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if everything just stays quiet and calm
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this can go away really fast but it
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doesn't so I'm sure the NHS will be
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dealing with this until the end of time
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with two million people so the reason I
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brought up email today and is I found a
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new email app that I think is really
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interesting and ya mean you spent a ton
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of time on the show
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talking about apps that are specific to
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our own preferences and needs like what
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was that one that you use univox uni
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barks at you maybe I can't imagine
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everybody that listens to show once or
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needs the application because it deals
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even a very specific way
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look at this this one that i found this
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app Gordon ocean it's probably the best
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email app that I've used for specific
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features and those features our business
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email so it does a few things now it is
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phone only at the moment they are
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working on tablet apps on iOS and
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Android and they are using machine
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learning type stuff to make your email
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better and to make you react to it
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better at what you explain what you mean
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by this right is I feel like machine
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learning is this buzzword that everybody
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through somebody else's server but
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let's work these days for notifications
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if you don't if you don't want that
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email is not even as secure as you think
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it is if it's not going through one of
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these services so like if you're worried
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about security in your email you already
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focused on the wrong problem mmm one
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important to you who write so it takes a
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before stuff like that he knows that so
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obviously it's nothing is going to keep
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that as an important email people that
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time or whatever maybe it thinks they
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might not be that important to you or
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like app emails or subscriptions or
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newsletters and stuff like that and it
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kind of Gray's them out a little bit
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keeps them in the order of the inbox
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with grace them out a little bit then
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you get a number in the bottom
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right-hand corner that tells you how
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many of these emails exist and with one
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swipe you can archive all of them so
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that's really cool how you clean out
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junk really easily so when you say it's
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it's grouping it's grouping similar
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messages according to the machine
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learning or grouping similar messages
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according to sender machine learning
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though it is assuming what it thinks are
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unimportant email
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right and you can get rid of all of
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those in a swipe ok you can very easily
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just with like to tap a button to say no
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this is important and then it will learn
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that future but it's like I'm looking at
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it right now and I have nine messages my
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inbox one of them is from dropbox one of
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them is from my plumber asking for
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feedback and one of them is from a
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personal email me for the first time and
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it's indicate that these three might not
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be that important and to be honest it's
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got two out three the right so it's
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doing a good job of that but it goes way
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more than this this application this is
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just like the tip of the iceberg of what
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this thing does and this is why it's so
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good for businesses it has single radar
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radar scans your inbox and your sent
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emails and highlights unanswered
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questions
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whoo that's interesting and interesting
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it uses another part of its technology
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of assessing all of your communications
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between people
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so let's say mean you don't you don't
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even we are not even in this list but
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we've never even met each other let's
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just say me and you it will look at how
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long is the usual response time between
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me and you from the lead to you and
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we'll assess if an email was passed that
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point and put it in the writer so for
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example it may know it would make me
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very sad that you don't like your
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outgoing points
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oh my god i did--like i feel like i
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don't i don't want to even though those
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numbers i have so many people waiting on
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me for so long for so many things like
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right but here's the thing that right so
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this is it knows how the app will know
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how long it takes you to usually reply
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to somebody it will only highlight
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something when it's past even that point
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yeah to be like hey you should reply to
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this but what is really great is that
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how it works on the other end so it
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knows how long it usually takes somebody
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to reply to you and it will then
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highlight just the question part food so
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it looks or what it thinks is the
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question and it breaks them down into
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these little cards and it's like you
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asked cgpgrey and maybe a long email but
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that email i asked you one question and
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i have not received a reply to that
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email which means you have not answered
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it and then it says nudge gray and just
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highlights the question
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it's freaking amazing that's interesting
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and then it says like it has a date to
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them so like this one person who hasn't
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emailed me i asked i also what do you
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and they haven't replied and they're
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late by 28 days based on our previous
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communication who it says nudge this
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person so you just press the button and
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open an email for you to send again and
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i also like I have an email in my inbox
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to a person that is overdue by eight
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days based on our previous communication
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it's incredible and then also i've asked
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questions of people that it says I can
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expect this email in X amount of days
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based on our previous communications got
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that's also a thing open what beautiful
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seeing for making out there and and then
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it has a people tab in the people tab
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you can go into an individual you can
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find out what the usual response time is
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between each of them who is the best
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person responding in that relationship
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it tells you who introduced you to that
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oh that's interesting because it like
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looks at the cc's and then what is that
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when the first email wasn't who it came
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I have never seen a nap do the stuff
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that this does and then it pulls in
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contact data and work history of the
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individual from services like Twitter
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and LinkedIn and their websites like I
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can look at somebody and it tells me
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what their personal website is because
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it's even looked at it maybe from their
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signature field or just from pulling in
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data from other services
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it's incredible like it really does a
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good job of ensuring what's important in
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your inbox but the thing that's most
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important for me is i will i'm using
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this is my email app when and if they
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put an ipad i may do that just because
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some of this stuff is so powerful but I
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open it every now and then just to see
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like your questions are outstanding
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because how else do you know that the
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email goes and then you may never see a
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reply and you just forget and if you're
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packing in some other way but this
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application tells me all my own
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signing questions to people awesome boy
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that is very interesting that is that is
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very interesting this again highlights
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one of the best things about email that
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it is this cross-platform open way of
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communicating and then it ends up that
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you can build specific tools for sifting
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through this general-purpose thing and
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like that like that is very interesting
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to see like oh maybe you don't use this
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all the time but it's useful to check to
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make sure that you haven't overlooked
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something like that as a very as a very
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interesting idea and I'm just I'm just
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looking at some of the screenshots from
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this and I have to say I this this looks
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again like maybe one of the most
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different email apps i've ever seen and
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from and from your description as well
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as I boy that is that is worth keeping
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an eye on for when they come out with an
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ipad version they're also working on
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amazon alexa skill i'm not sure if it's
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out yet but they showed a video of it
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and you can just do all of your email
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through the alexa and you can just have
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said very quietly because because Alexa
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is listening right now my echo every now
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and then like i'll say it and then it
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will go like I didn't hear what you said
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like from downstairs or like our listen
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to me that like that video that they
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showed off was like you can it would do
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a lot of this stuff to you is like Mary
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is waiting on an email for you what
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would you like to set like it yeah
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this app is also this is part of like me
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i'm trying to change a few things about
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the way that I'm working this is
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probably gonna come up a lot like I'm
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thinking about trying out and you to do
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manager Lou I'm thinking about like
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different different email apps
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I'm thinking about like optimizing my
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life in different ways like for 2017 the
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year of less common who move like this
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is the stuff that's going to come up but
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like I found this app and I really want
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to move everything to it just because
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its so-called but I'm also just using it
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frequently to check on some stuff that
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might want to catch up on so i think
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this this one is maybe of all of the
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apps that we've spoke
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about i think that I'll more of those
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things might get some use out of this
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a.m providing that you're able to put
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your email for these services direct
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depends on on your company and the
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policies of course because it when you
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put your email into it it says like we
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need to go away and look at this and
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then it gives you a push notification
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after a period of time to say like your
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emails now ready like right this week we
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looked at all
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we now know what's going on it's pretty
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cool and our AI BOTS have have crunched
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on this for a while and yours here's
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what they're thinking
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yep this is the world of artificial
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intelligence AI like yes exactly like
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there are plenty of ways that machine
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learning AI neural nets and stuff like
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they can pull out patterns that you
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couldn't possibly do yourself
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mhm it's like light sidebar here I can't
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exactly know what the what the deal is
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with this but I always always presume
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this is apple's privacy thing always
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feel like an apple III who I would love
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for you to take a look at my health data
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you know with your lady I box or
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whatever you want to do what you feel
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like you don't even you don't even pull
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this health data off of the phone and
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let it go onto an ipad or synchronized
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anywhere it's like a super lockdown like
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that seems like an area that is super
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ripe for all kinds of correlations and
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learning and in the same way that you
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can do something with email which is
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like an enormous corpus of data about
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you I feel a similar thing about health
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stuff with the phone it's like oh come
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on like there's no device that knows
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more about me then the phone like surely
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there's there's something to be learned
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here but it feels like that's locked
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it's very private kind of thing that's
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like that anyway that's that little
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sidebar my own personal annoyance i'm
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going to side by your side bar so we
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were we were together recently at the
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all-conference which is a great
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conference in island compiling go for a
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while I arrived I check in i pick up my
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name badge whose name badges above mine
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cgpgrey and then a couple days later I
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pick up a bag and turn around you're
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standing behind me so that was that was
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interesting anyway so we are at this
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this conference together and we were we
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were hanging out and I get a push
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notification on my watch to tell me that
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Stephen hack it wants to share his
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health date with me is activity date
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with me
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to which you immediately so it's like we
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should do that too so I'm now sharing
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activity day to have a couple of people
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that you can do on your Apple watch and
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when you share this stuff with people
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you feel bad about your own life
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it is a really good motivational tool
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because now I know when you're seeing
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that like today I will have not moved
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very much and you're going to know that
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and I don't like that makes me very
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uncomfortable
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I like the activity sharing in the Apple
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watch I think it's I think it's done
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really well i think it's actually done
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really well in a way that protects your
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privacy because it didn't occur to me
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before but the way they've done it is
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you can only see the aggregate data for
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the other person you can't see like Oh
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Mike was really busy running around
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between three and four pm and you can
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only just see here here is mike's
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activity for the day I do get
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notifications right now which I need to
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arrange because I just haven't yet of
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when you complete your workouts
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yeah yeah i think there's those
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notifications I think our little bit
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much so I have turned those off for
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everybody because i like I don't really
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need to see when everybody completes
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their little circles it's given me a new
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and interesting looking to your schedule
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okay waiting for you
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what do you mean suddenly now suddenly
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now I have bigger privacy concerns that
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i did the start of this conversation I'm
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going to show that I go push
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notification from you like eleven
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o'clock last night saying that you've
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done the stair stepping exercise doing
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so there you go i'm learning new things
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about you work out way more than I
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thought and it's making me feel terrible
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i'm so happy that cortex cottage has a
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gym at the bottom now good girl you see
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me now like 4am mike is completed a run
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yet up i'll be waiting for that one you
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wait for that one waiting for a long
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how is you you on the multi watch
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lifestyle now like you're on that right
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how is that working for you
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multi watch lifestyle awesome it's it's
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it's fantastic it's everything that I
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dreamed it would be
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are you using two different generations
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of watch
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yes I got the order they calling series
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2 is that yeah the the newer one you had
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the original and the series to right I
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got the overhead i bought the original
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watch when it came out about a series
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two to replace it
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which you thought was a ridiculous idea
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and i thought was an obvious conclusion
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to come to exert heard mumbling but we
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can't keep track of all of these things
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but I mean the short version of it is I
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thrilled with the series to watch i
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totally love it
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the battery life is fantastic like it is
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it is noticeably noticeably better than
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the original watch so much so that it
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falls into the category for me of thing
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that I simply don't have to think about
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which is amazing right because with so
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many batteries in our lives and I hate
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having to be aware vaguely of the
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batteries of all of these things like
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okay there's the watch battery right
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there's the headphone battery there's
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the phone battery there's the gimbal
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battery has filming something right this
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like a bazillion batteries in the world
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and i love that the watch i essentially
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never even have to think about it and
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then combining that with the thing that
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I'm doing which is at nighttime i switch
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to the old watch which I simply leave in
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a setup nighttime face that i have it on
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my wrist at night so that it it helps me
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sleep better that I can check the time
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when i'm sort of half awake doing those
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two things means I just like never have
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to think about the watch or the watch
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battery or how charged is at any point
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in time because it's just like it never
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gets below fifty percent either of the
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two watches so it's it's fantastic like
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I wouldn't go out and buy a second watch
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if I didn't already have one but using
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the original as
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the nighttime sleep watch is this great
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absolutely absolutely love having done
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this you also mentioned couple of weeks
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ago we spoke about this that you wished
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that you could get like a kind of fuzzy
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clock as we've mentioned before like you
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have this clock on your mac which kind
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of it doesn't say like 20 for it's like
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it's five past three or something
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whatever you say
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yeah I obviously those times that make
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any sense why just said but don't worry
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about some a bunch of people sent us in
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something called the fuzzy complication
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for the watch which just tells you it's
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about six o'clock stuff like that that
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thing exists if you tried that and no
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because i have i have no real use for
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this because the way Apple sets up there
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watch faces you always have to have the
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exact time on the watch face Yeah Yeah
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right hand replace the clock
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you can never replace the HS teenage
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have two plaques on the wall guys are
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confusing
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there's no version of this that allows
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you to just have the one clock is that
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this again is my internal frustration
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with Apple not allowing people to design
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watch faces which i used to have I used
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to have used to have great hope for like
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obviously Apple is going to open this up
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obviously this is a thing that will
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change will come someday but a couple of
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personal conversations combined with
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apples brand deals with nike animes yeah
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I feel like have have totally ripped
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this dream of mine away it's like there
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is no way that they are ever going to do
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this so yes people can design customers
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faces provided that there are huge
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fashion brand make their own branded
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watches well it exactly like when gray
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industries is a global fashion brand
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then maybe I can get them to produce a
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watch face for me right
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he just needs to go back to your
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original dream of making your own
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t-shirts but that one that was the thing
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yeah suddenly this is a more practical
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idea but now it's it is frustrating and
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i think i think this fuzzy clock
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complication is a perfect example of
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like theirs theirs base for this but
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this just this is fundamentally can't
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work or even how I would have been the
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past couple of days for various reasons
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I don't wanna get into at the moment
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what I have really wanted
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is what I think of is like a the old
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pilots or flight attendant watches where
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I like where you can have a watch that
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has to clock faces on it of equivalent
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weight so you can set one for one time
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zone and one for the other one and I
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feel like I've wanted to do this for a
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couple reasons in the past few days and
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it's just it's like it's not there's no
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great solution to this in the setup that
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the watch is currently have like their
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little complications just don't do what
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I really want
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I like the emphasis is always on the
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wrong time like I want to be able to
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have the main time be somewhere else and
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have a smaller time be the the time in
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the current time zone but it's like no
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no way to do this and this is the kind
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of thing like someone could create a
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custom watch face which would be awesome
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for people who want to kind of dual
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think about two time zones in a very
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particular way but like never going to
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happen because that market is super
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small and apples not going to make a
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face that that does like exactly what
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you wanted to do so I'm sad about that
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two watches thumbs-up lack of custom
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watch races sat faith
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watch races sat faith
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no thumbs down yeah I'm I'm sadder than
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I disapprove
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that's why a sad face I don't into the
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emoji very well microsite sorry
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now the components back out again okay
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to go back to email
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ok so you treat the other day that you
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have found a limited I didn't know
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existed
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apparently you can only have 100 VIPs
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and apple mail system
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ohmygod ohmygod i mean i have some
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issues with the fact that you even reach
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this in the first place
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okay i'm going to have to explain what's
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going on here yeah I think he did okay
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for the first thing the first thing that
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frustrates me so for the listeners i was
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doing some email on my computer it was
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using Apple's default mail app and in
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there you can press a little button next
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to a contact to immediately add them as
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a VIP mhm and I went to press this
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button and I got the message which said
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something like you are only allowed to
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have one hundred VIPs please remove some
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VIPs and try again now is made me
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furious because just to start with this
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is such this is such like an apple ii
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message like this like this there's
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something that's like the idea of Apple
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knows best for you which is always
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frustrating that is embodied in this
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idea because I look at that message and
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i think is there some kind of physical
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limits to to vips right like why why
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have you decided i'm only allowed to
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have one hundred i don't think there's
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any real reason for this this this
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number is obviously clearly selected by
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a human
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it's not even a case where like you try
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to add a VIP and you get an error which
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says like no into value limit reached
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255 VIPs max right which is like okay
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someone programmed this and just never
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conceived of the idea that someone would
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have more than 255 VIPs and it's just
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like a bug in a sense like know there
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was a meeting somewhere and Apple where
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they sat down and they said how many
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VIPs are we going to allow people to
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100 no one will ever need more than 100
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VIPs great that's what we've decided
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end of discussion and that kind of stuff
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just infuriates me like a totally
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artificial no reason for it
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limit i love the way it's written a
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maximum of 100 VIPs is allowed
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please remove any unused the IPS and try
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my favorite was allowed and unused right
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like allowed allowed who are you
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computer like what what are you doing
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and then just it just the presumption
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that you can't have more than a hundred
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surely there must be some that are
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unused yeah there's that there's no
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reason for this
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so okay so now people are wondering how
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did I get here
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yeah i still think that like even though
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this is this extremely thing that that
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is being coded in i still think that you
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are doing it wrong that's yeah i can
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think and feel the judgment and the
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blame and therefore act like it okay so
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okay so here's because when this happens
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i have had like this this tale of woe
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with email stretching back close to six
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months now we're essentially at the
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start of my summer travels before i went
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of emails to reply to just thousands and
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thousands of messages this is like that
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you know after after being filtered out
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you know trying to sort out for
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is there's a situation like when you
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email application which is the perfect
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one to deal with this problem
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uni box is a little buggy and weird
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there's some problems loading messages
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there's some problem sending replies and
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it's like this is the exact worst
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situation to try to use this under right
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like that the application is going to be
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under an unusual amount of stress with
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it with an unusually large number of
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messages i contacted the developers they
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say the working on a fix but it doesn't
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change the fact that like it hasn't been
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available to me for the last couple
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months and when an email problem gets so
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enormous it's also just very hard to
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psychologically even deal with it's like
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maybe it'll just go away right maybe if
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I just don't pay any attention to this
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it'll disappear
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turns out is not true there is an
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element of it will you know some people
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would just stop trying
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yeah but then more people will try so
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what I have been falling back on is
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trying to just use the regular built in
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mail.app it in terms of replying stuff
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the app that I want to use right now I
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want to try to burn through this is as
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most reliably as i can like this is a
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case where reliability is going to
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matter more than speed so I'm trying to
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get through mail and I've also been
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trying to essentially make mail as close
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to uni boxes i can which is male allows
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you to have this special email inbox
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that shows you just messages from your
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VIPs and the way I want to use that is
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i'm trying to filter out messages
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essentially from people I know and
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people i don't know which again is a I
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understand it's a very particular
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problem for someone in my position like
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this is not really a general-purpose
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problem but nonetheless what I really
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want VIPs to be in mail when im using it
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is essentially my address book if
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there's anybody
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you put in my address book i want to be
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able to pull their messages out
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separately from the sea of messages and
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so that's why I've been going through
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person I know who replies and i'm also
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in the unusual position of having a sort
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of a large group of acquaintances who I
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want to have their messages elevated
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above as well so for example like I met
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a bunch of people at VidCon and they'll
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send they send like a follow-up message
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and said okay great i want to put this
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person in the VIP system we probably
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won't email very frequently but maybe
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six months down the road they're going
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to send me a message about a thing and i
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would rather not have them in the same
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group with like random people that I
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don't know and this exact situation just
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happened with the exact person who I was
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actually trying to mark as a VIP when
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that message came up like someone sent
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me a message a while ago and I thought
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I'm not going to be in regular contact
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with this person but I still want their
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message above the fray
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I couldn't go to mark them as a VIP know
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you're not allowed and then you know a
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couple days ago they happen to send me a
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question about a thing it's like I saw
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it but it wasn't filtered the way I
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wanted it to be so this is this is how i
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have ended up in this position and it is
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extra frustrating because it is a
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totally artificial totally pointless
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limit that is built into the mail
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application for no reason
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isn't this a thing a human could do
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isn't this something your assistant
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could do like he just have a list of
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people I guess there's a lot to check
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isn't it like check every email that you
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receive against the list
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yeah this is like this is a very
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different thing what i did when i came
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back from the summer was i did a kind of
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super triage of my inbox of trying to go
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through and find all of the genuinely
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urgent stuff that there was to deal with
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and essentially took aside two days to
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be like I'm just doing email and I'm
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just going through a bunch of this stuff
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and so I cleared out a bunch of things
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from there but the backlog is just so
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incredibly huge that that the rest of it
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is very hard to deal with and then i'm
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having like random stuff come in and I'm
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just missing it because im using mail
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because i'm not seeing everybody in my
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contacts
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and then you know the whole bunch of
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other stuff and I was gripped by mania
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for the video that i want to produce
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there's just been a whole bunch of
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compounding problems that have led me in
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a situation where it's like a i am very
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sad about email
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I'm very sad about email that's where i
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am giving more VIP sample not too much
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that's really not gonna solve your
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problem now it's totally as bad as that
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is the bottleneck here
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hello it's been awhile is this the one
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okay we got a new intro for the segment
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hello hello Elaine what is your question
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Elaine asks what is great do and his
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assistant is on vacation
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is there a backup or is he on his own I
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thought it was fascinating because it
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never crossed my mind before clearly
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your assistant can't work on everything
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forever
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what do you do my assistant has some
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assistants who become my assistant when
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she's on vacation you have one assistant
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no no two assistants because one is none
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right exactly
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that's perfect that's such a great
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solution
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it doesn't surprise me that this is
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something that you needed like that you
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would have gone through this already
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like no oh yeah i will be no break it
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totally came up this summer when I was
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traveling it turned out that i didn't
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assistant but I just I wanted to have
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someone available if there was some kind
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of problem that i was unable to deal
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with ya and that that and that's all
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that was like a fallback of you know the
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situation I was trying to avoid is i'm
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don't want to but maybe there's some
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kind of problem like i just i need there
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to be someone who i can at least have as
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they won't be able to do anything but
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just knowing that there was someone who
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might be able to help in a situation
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where i might be pressed on time that
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was that was a thing that I definitely
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want to have set up so my assistant has
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an assistant who was my assistant when
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she was on vacation this summer
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mm okay that makes sense
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Jordan said that they were real
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listening to cortex number 10 long time
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yeah you mentioned that you would use
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omnigraffle potentially for animations
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of Apple ever released a large ipad in
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the stylist who they did that
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oh yeah did you do that no i did not do
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about no I think the main thing that
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changed is she to you by that point
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you'd basically started transition away
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from animate yourself
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yeah when we would have first discussed
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this i was in a different sort of
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transition which was transitioning from
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at this point i think it's it's very
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unlikely i could transition more to iOS
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that i currently have and so at that
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stage I was really trying to think about
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interesting it is is that even now
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that episode there is nothing available
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adequate solution to what I really
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wanted like that still doesn't exist and
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every once in a while I check in on the
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world doing on ipad right and it's like
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it's an interesting world that there's a
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bunch of tools that's all very narrow
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problems but there's nothing that's a
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general purpose solution and I kind of
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wonder like what's what's going on there
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what's happening in that world so what's
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the general solution on the mac is that
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inkscape that you consider there's a
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bunch of there's a bunch of different
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tools i personally was using inkscape
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illustrator you know you have tools like
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Final Cut Pro and after I felt like
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there's a bunch of things that you can
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use to solve this problem and I think
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right now on iOS it would still be just
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incredibly time-consuming or very very
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difficult to actually do a serious
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amount of
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animation work on that platform again
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there's a lot there's a lot of like
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particular things that you can do but
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less general-purpose solutions so so
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it's it's it's interesting sitting here
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now and having someone bring up a thing
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from the past and realizing like oh that
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gray was dealing with that wouldn't have
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even been solved if he had stuck with it
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and he instead went down a different
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path which is now working with an
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animator that which is as a as a slight
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sidebar here i'm now in the process of
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trying to learn after effects for the
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computer because this is the system that
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and final cut pro and instead working
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with the adobe suite of applications to
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do animations partly because they're
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better for working in a group and partly
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because I think they're just a generally
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better solution what I well I had
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cobbled together for myself over the
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past few years so you looking to move
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into after effects and premier moving to
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after effects from Final Cut Pro oh
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interesting huh
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this is partly because of your animator
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this is partly because this is the tool
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the animator is using it's also partly
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because i know people who are running
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serious animation outputs on after
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effects and I've seen and I so I've been
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able to see behind the scenes like how
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does this work and it has some really
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really good solutions for some of the
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things that I'm trying to do so i think
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it's probably the best tool for what I
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am trying to accomplish
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yeah I guess final cut is really fitting
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setting video together final cut is a
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fantastic program but its core skill is
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really stitching together pre-existing
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clips of video like let's say for
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example you wanted to start a vlog with
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a little but def final cut is exactly
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the tool that you would probably want to
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get started with because i think it's
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really easy
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it's really intuitive you can do a
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tremendous amount in it but it is also
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so not designed for animation right this
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is like clearly not its skill set
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whereas after effects is much more
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designed for animation I mean that there
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are some things that that actually that
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rules for rulers videos is a really good
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example of there were a couple of
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changes that we made at the last
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possible second to the video in after
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effects that would have just never ever
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ever been possible with final cut pro
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like the morning of we actually ended up
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changing the background that was used in
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the video which might normally be like a
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relatively simple thing to do except for
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the fact that i have this this weird
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thing that people sometimes tune into
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and sometimes don't but the stick
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figures that i use almost always their
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heads are actually transparent
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I don't like to fill in the heads with
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any color but so this means that there
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has to be like an artificial background
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behind some of their heads in some of
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the scenes and that that kind of thing
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it's like man if I had done this in
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Final Cut Pro changing the background
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would be another 20 hours of work
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whereas with the tool that is designed
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much more specifically for animation
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it's not nothing but it is way easier to
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do because the application natively
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understand like this is an animation
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that this is an animated molasses-like
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here are the different properties of
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this animatable asset so I'm just
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beginning to get into after effects and
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that's that's what I'm taking a look at
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as almost certainly the future of how
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the videos are going to be produced
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hmm this is interesting because i have
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been very tempted by the microsoft
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which is Microsoft's new kind of desktop
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that they've made it's like a 28 inch
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screen on a pivot which you can bring
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down in front of you and it has native
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stylus support that's the one that the
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one that folds down it has little thing
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on the screen
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I've just seen that one video clip
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everywhere yeah it looks like an imac
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and you can grab the screen and bring it
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down in front of you and it's like a
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drafting table
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yeah that not only does it look like an
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imac it looks exactly like something
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Apple should have produced but didn't
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but now I said that like that computer
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is like the perfect form factor for the
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way that I work on my mac with final cut
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and with logic of using the pen stylus
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interactive it and i believe if i was a
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user of Adobe's product i would be very
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tempted to use that machine instead of
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my imac because it lets my movement more
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in the way that I had it with gestures
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on the trackpad and Pentonville fine
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motion you are moving to something like
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adobe suite of products
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who would you be more tempted to try
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something like this because we we both
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headed in the same way and this would be
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like direct on-screen manipulation of
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the work as opposed to augmenting it to
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a stylist and pad next year I mean it as
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crazy as it sounds in some ways like yes
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it is totally a tempting interesting
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thing especially because of the way mean
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use our max like function machines for
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us the mac is like this is this is a
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toaster right is a machine that does a
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particular thing and I don't really care
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about it outside of that particular
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thing and in addition this gets over one
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of the main problems i'm always talking
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about which is transition costs
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I was like well the transition costs of
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learning a new way of animating is
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something that I have to go through
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anyway like I have to pay that price now
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but if I'm switching to a tool that is
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actually cross-platform well then it
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matters way less like what is the
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operating system running
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underneath it i get in at that
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perspective it's like well this
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Microsoft computer from my production
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perspective is essentially just and
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adobe machine right it's the machine
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that runs adobe stuff and it's it's
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funny you mention that because if it's
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been vaguely crossing my mind of like
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well i'm using logic to edit all my
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podcasts but I think adobe has some kind
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of audio editing tool into its cool
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audition yeah like maybe I should look
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into that like I've heard it's much
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better for doing podcasts and me and you
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know what the only the only roadblock in
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that is that's you Mike if the other
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person I work with who we need to share
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compatible file formats but it's it's
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like it's just a thing like you can see
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how if I'm transitioning to a layer
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above the operating system for my
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production stuff then it totally makes a
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transition to Windows way more likely
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for a production machine right like I
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will always personally be using iOS
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devices and so be personally much more
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connected into the Apple operating
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system but I i can very easily imagine
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having an office in the future where I
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have a machine that is an Adobe machine
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and then something interesting like this
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Microsoft drafting table makes that a
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much more tempting option than otherwise
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maybe Mike learns adobe audition I usual
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edition for a few things processing wise
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like pre-processing of audio and some of
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the stuff that does is brilliant blue
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I don't understand how to edit using it
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I got it looked at it and I just can't
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get it it's like it it doesn't just
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transfer easily to my brain
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maybe one day maybe I'll learn i'll give
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you a crash course the only way I'm ever
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moving this show to after effects is if
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you do provide a training course for me
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just so you know same as when i took the
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videos over you made that great little
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screen Causton and everything was great
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news will find who knows that we're
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running the show on windows in here
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can you imagine
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the reddit would be happy at least know
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but you know but you don't understand
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you don't look it
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listen use the key thing you're never
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going to make the people on the internet
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oh yeah because we had make the people
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happy that say we should switch to the
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surface but then we just upset all the
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people that use macross exactly right
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that's all that happens like all you're
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ever doing is trading one group of angry
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people for another group of angry people
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so if you use apple stuff you're gonna
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hear from all the windows people if you
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use Windows you're going to hear from
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all the Apple people right so it's it's
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it's not about them Mike about you and
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what do you want to do
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alright alright there's a bunch of
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questions that come from that came from
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12-5 37 on reddit great read it name
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that matter questions about this show
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when i get these every now and then like
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one or two of them but this individual
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just gave a bunch so I think it might
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answer a lot of questions and all make
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more questions who knows but it might at
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least 25 people who are interested in
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this stuff like about cortex so they
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start with what is the usual time spent
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recording an episode
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this is the most interesting part to me
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because we probably record for on
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average about four hours we were on the
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phone together
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would you agree that feel about right
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there feels about right sometimes it's
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less but sometimes it's not six
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yeah i'm not exaggerating
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that is not an exaggeration not an
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exaggeration at all but do you want to
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explain to the people why it is that
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it's four or six hours when they're
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listening to a show that maybe an hour
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and 22 yahoo hours long
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I feel like we should because otherwise
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people going to ask for all of it there
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is a probably on average about 45 to 60
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minutes before the show begins where
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we're booting up
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yeah right where we are just like
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are you ready now we do that a bunch
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there is a kind of we were actually
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yeah before either of us is kind of set
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mhm and and that's it that's a strange
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thing like it doesn't happen to me with
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have the same thing with other shows
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cold that they're there is this phase of
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warming up that is absolutely required
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a moment were both saying like are you
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how often we then have another little
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diversion after that point it's like all
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the recording equipment setup like okay
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we're great in theory we should start
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the show at that moment but one or the
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thursdays because it it this to it just
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takes that amount of time and I'm really
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proud of the show and I believe that it
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takes six hours for us to get 90 minutes
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i'll keep giving it that
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yeah and that's why this can be on the
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easy way for you is like this is the
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only thing that you have to do you know
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you know it's the single got that right
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your task quiet week super quiet week
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super quiet week
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how long is the gap usually between
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recording and posting so typically we
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record on Thursday and release them on
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it's probably been 24 hours since
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recorded attention to me the way that it
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goes right like we're recording this
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it's thursday and our will probably be
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because we're late we're super light
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like we really like this week like a
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weekly at this point I'm but yeah that
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tends to be how it goes right we'd be
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kind of get it out over a weekend mostly
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yeah i feel like these these are the two
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modes there's Mike is happy with the
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schedule mode which is we record on
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then there's oh no we need a cortex and
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there was some reason why the regular
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schedule didn't work and then because in
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particular like your schedule is very
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booked it hard for you to necessarily
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find time to record like a random other
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show that's going to suck up your entire
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day that yes otherwise we have shows
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they're like recorded one day and then
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put up the next day and admit this show
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is going to be that case and the the
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previous one recorder was the same as
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well I think rightly recorded it and
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then it was up the following day I don't
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even know anymore
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yeah I'm pretty sure the the last one
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was a was up at less than 24 hours after
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record it so so if those are the two
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focus with the two ways that this is
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done but I much prefer the other way
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because what's going to happen today is
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we will finish recording i will take a
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break for an hour and then I will listen
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back to what we just recorded that's
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tough man that's tough to relive the
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conversation you just had but yeah I
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have specific for anyone who who doesn't
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do this kind of work like I i have had
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to do that with podcasts a number of
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times where it's like you just spent
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three hours recording and now you have
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to edit you talking for the previous
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three hours
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is it is not fun I get it is not fun at
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i partly partly because you don't
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necessarily have a lot of distance from
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work to edit immediately after it is and
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aware of all the kind of of ways that
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conversations go when you're not good at
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explaining yourself like you think you
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said a thing in a correct way and you
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realize like oh I actually did a
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terrible job explaining what i was
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trying to say I I find if I editor show
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immediately after recording all of that
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stuff is way worse like I'm just much
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more aware of it and it is harder
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because you don't have a little bit of
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distance from the show itself if anyone
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ever record the podcast out there the
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edited later i really recommend giving
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it at least one day like 11 sleep cycle
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think that really helps just to give
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yourself a little bit of distance from
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the thing that you've just made so I'll
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addendum here which is it depends on the
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show so all of pretty much all of my
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other shows they're posted on the same
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day that they're recorded but I added
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them differently so that's it that's a
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very different editing priority for work
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for that was supposed to say with one of
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my shows like connected or upgrade their
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like news focus shows the way that i
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added those shows as whilst i'm
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recording i take notes of the parts that
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need to be fixed you know maybe we
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talked over each other or right with
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somebody kind of stumbled a little bit
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those specific parts so i can add it a
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90-minute show in 15-20 minutes because
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we're doing is just cleaning out
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specific parts of the way that we added
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this show which is the next question is
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how long does the editing process take
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maybe one or two other shows
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edit all of the audio so this can be
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like restructuring things cutting parts
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some arse and stuff like that there is a
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very different style of editing and it
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is nice to have a break between those
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from the break is let's say I take like
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a day or two before
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back to it it just percolates my brain a
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little bit and i'll just be like i'll be
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doing something and a part of the
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conversation will pop into my brain and
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bit blue it's red and then when i come
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back to it
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I've already had the thoughts and it's
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easier for me to do it but when i'm just
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going straight back in again I have to
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make a lot of those decisions as they're
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happening which is a bit trickier for me
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yeah that is the number one benefit that
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you get from time away from a project is
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it's easier to recognize what parts
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don't belong which actually to tie this
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video games not as good and I can see
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it's not as good because I never had any
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time away from that to realize like oh I
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can restructure this and move this
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around her like this thing in the
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beginning is obviously like nobody cares
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why you even talking about it right when
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you're just doing a thing immediately
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its way harder to see that and so yeah
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I'm I'll back it up entirely like more
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distance between the editing and
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creation phase results in better
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products by far then I do think it's
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funny that you don't take notes for this
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show about what needs fixing because you
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know ways like all of it needs fixed
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right you know you're recording it in a
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very different way that there's a
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there's a reason all of my shows are
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intense fashion because I'm not
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necessarily the best extemporaneous
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speaker in the world and so like this
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this helps make the show easier for the
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listener to digest right rather than
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easier for the producer to produce that
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is a self-fulfilling in a way that the
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extemporaneous part because you lean
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into the fact that you know the edits
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because for example i am way worse
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extemporaneously talking on this show
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than any of my other shows because i
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know there's something in the back of my
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brain that tells me it could just be
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fixed later i need to cut myself on this
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show in ways that doesn't happen on my
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other shows little it's very strange but
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it's like yeah this is what it is and I
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prefer the show cut that
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brain does it's like maybe two or three
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shows that i do where somebody will
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listen before it's done and and I am way
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was at expressing myself and no shows in
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a coherent manner
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yeah i mean this is this is this is a
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whole other topic for a whole other time
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but there's there is a huge difference
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between producing something live when
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producing something when you know that
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it is not live and it is going to be
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heavily edited later and I think that my
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skill sets do not line up very well with
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the live production and line up much
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better with the heavy post-production
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and that that's part of the way i do
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that this way there is only one time
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that mean you have recorded life right
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that's right when we did the when you're
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part of the real icon connected event
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that we did with in san francisco and it
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wasn't cortex
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yeah it was something completely
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different yeah go to the link in the
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show notes for anyone who hasn't heard
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that to hear a totally different version
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of me in public
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it was effectively cortex life it was
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like a totally different thing it was a
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performance it was very strange it was
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that good but totally different to the
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show yeah and then and had a mic totally
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on edge the whole time I was railroaded
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yeah it wasn't able to me and not
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necessarily think I want to reproduce
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all the time
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I've been only what you're going to do
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is terrifying but the question from
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contours how long is the editing process
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take now for me and it takes effectively
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two minutes to every minute that you
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so if it is an hour long it took me
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about two hours to do and that's kind of
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like a good average so it takes me about
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twice the amount of time to get the Edit
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whoo yeah then when you're done with the
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Edit it's passed to me through dropbox
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for editing in logic and I do another
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listen through and because you have done
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the heavy lifting in the edit it
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probably takes me about a minute in 10
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seconds on average for every minute of
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actual content so I'm i mostly listening
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through to the show and making a few
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minor changes or cutting out a few
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things but it's it's not remotely the
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amount of work that you're doing and
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that's that's why it can take me much
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less time to do the other than it takes
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you to do besides youtube uploading what
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is the least liked part of creating and
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posting an episode with your answer to
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this mic for me is the actual posting of
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the audio nothing's ever gone wrong but
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eventually it will and the fact that
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we've posted this will be the 40th time
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and there's never been a disaster means
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it's only getting closer until the point
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where like the audio is out of sync or
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something like that and it doesn't
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matter i notice matter how many times I
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check it which i do many many times
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eventually I'm going to get it wrong
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that's yours part it is like the
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immediate 30 minutes after posting to
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just wait if I did it wrong
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yeah it is so easy to mess up at the
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last second when you doing in exports
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for do like what especially with our
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like insane house of cards that we set
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because recently we've come across this
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bug that when gray sends me back the
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audio there's like this horrific noise
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gate compression put on it I have to fix
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and we cannot look out why this is
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happening but it is and it's like this
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is all these little things that we are
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using logic in a way that it shouldn't
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be used with like two people working on
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the same file like yeah it is obviously
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not designed for this and we have
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obviously run into bugs where it's like
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there's something about the fact that
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we're sharing this file that is messing
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it up and so-and-so listeners if one day
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my voice sounds like terrible quality in
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the podcast you know what happened right
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is like this this thing that we have to
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manually fix each time that we can't
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figure out why it occurs like we missed
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it this time like that's it's just going
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to happen it's going to happen one of
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these days now like these little things
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that we have to do where we have to
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confirm to each other the size of the
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file present backwards and forwards
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because it's just yeah we're we're
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really kind of stretching it to its to
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its limit
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yeah it shouldn't be used this way we
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should probably be switching to
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something like the adobe suite maybe
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basic collaborative audio editing i
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doubt it they do they have a whole
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section 14 projects for the various yeah
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really well we could talk about it later
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oh ok then well my is just picked up i
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was just investigating this morning but
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they have a whole section for
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cloud-based collaboration project
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between teams
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ok we can add it at the same time
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oh can you imagine well I've been a
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nightmare
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let's not do that what's your least like
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pop my least favorite part is that you
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are a slave driver with the schedule III
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I I don't like schedules that's not
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clear to my audience by now I don't know
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what could possibly make it more clear
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but good god do I not like schedules I
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think schedules are antique creative I
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just personally don't like them and Mike
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over here is a task driver he's always
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got the whip out he's like it's time to
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record another cortex always like we
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just recorded a cortex and he's like no
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it's actually been two weeks but there's
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something about the like the regular
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newness of it that it really does slowly
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drive me crazy you need me alive inside
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okay i think the show's battle for it
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how silent shows more frequent for it
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that's for sure
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what are some backstage horror stories
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about the creation of anything cortex
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related i think you have to answer this
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because from my perspective everything
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is smooth but that's because i do a
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vastly smaller portion of the work
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alright well i have one ok there was an
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episode recorded last summer I think it
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was the one before we were complaining
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about how hard it was it was there was
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one episode where mean you spent an
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amount of time complaining about the
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heat now you because I wouldn't let you
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have your air conditioning on because
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yeah the episode the week before i think
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it was in our first 10 maybe or like
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that one previous you left your air
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conditioning on blue and it could be
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clearly heard in the audio and I tried
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to minimize that and I was trying to fix
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that edit from the early afternoon until
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about 2am trying to get the audio to be
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cleaner that will you give
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me and I have a very clear memory
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sitting downstairs in my current house
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on the sofa because i couldn't be in the
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bedroom anymore because edina was
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sleeping and I was sweating out of heat
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and frustration at 2am trying to make
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your audio possible that is the biggest
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horror story and that is why I will not
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like gray have the air-conditioning on
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anymore i can add that to my list at
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least favorite things about creating the
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show is that Mike won't let me run my
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air-conditioning while recording this is
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for you listener because that episode I
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hate the way that one sounds because you
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can hear the air conditioning and it
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cuts in and out every now and then it's
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oh it's terrible
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yeah but I was thirty percent more
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comfortable what happened
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haha good really good really hear the
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emotion in your voice there Mike it's
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just not if you like ninety percent more
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than maybe I could swing it
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thirty percent is not enough man ok
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on average how much of the wrong
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recording is posted as he says if you
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see 90-minute see that was like three
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and a half hours of stuff that's
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unusable
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yeah however i think we have a pretty
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good ratio of when we actually seriously
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start recording the show and when we
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seriously stop recording the show I
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think I mean that ratio has to be like
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ninety percent of what we record really
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for the show makes it in these days it's
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probably about max 10 minutes get cut
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whoo yeah we have a very focused show it
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when we begin but it and i think it
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the focus is hated by the fact that we
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have guests for a while
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yeah exactly because I believe in the
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show being focused because of the
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underlining thing that we're talking
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about which is productivity right into
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the way that we work in the way that
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people work i think having a focus show
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with a nice outline that feels right to
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me a little
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how do you feel I mean I i love the fact
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that you have a bunch of topics that you
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outline because again as as the theme
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with the entirety of the
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behind-the-scenes production of the show
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it means that i can do less which is one
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of the reasons why the show can exist in
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the first place
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this is the thing right like i will i
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will write the outline i will prepare i
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wore you know take the first edit post
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the show make the youtube video all you
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need to do is show up every second
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Thursday it's not hot in case you get
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dull listeners mike is driving at a
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thing that we've been talking about
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making is making a little points on the
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show only once every second Thursday you
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know you to show up every second
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Thursday and it's all taken care of some
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nice so frequent a peacoat xmas
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everybody okay
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