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00:00:00 ◼   ► hey we strongly huge week [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► not much has a car show it's a fast week [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► that's just going to have to be [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► described in terms of speed and [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► horsepower and and all of those like you [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► know gearhead type of factors torque [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► lots of to work on the show or if you're [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► Jeremy Clarkson torques yeah I was I was [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► I saw there was somebody on Twitter I I [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► should probably know this but I don't [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► know who who earlier today and give us a [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► link to this itunes podcast they said [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► this is like John syracuse review in [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► cars here it's called called driving [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► sports TV HD and I guess the site is [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► driving sports.com and everything about [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► it looks like the description and [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► everything it looks like the complete [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► opposite of John syracuse reviewing car [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► and like if you actually like I just [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► watched the quickly watch the one on the [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► audi s5 and once you actually get into [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► the episode and you see the guy talking [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► he he is like a kind of smart smart guy [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► kind of car review or like it's not like [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► the super octane [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► lowest-common-denominator like things [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► that were created by somebody who [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► doesn't really care about cars to fill a [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► market segment you know it's not that [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► kind of thing at all but the description [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► the name of it driving sports TV HD like [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► than the name of it and the description [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► from the newest cars to the hottest [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► events driving sports TV is your [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► high-definition connection to the [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► fast-moving automotive world exclusive [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► content produced by automotive [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► journalists feature in car test [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► motorsports autotech and more like does [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► that sound anything like John siracusa [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► no not at all [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► it sounds like John siracusa with a [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► publisher mine would probably be like [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► publicist excuse me dear watch motorWeek [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► I don't think so no I was it originally [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► i'm paid PBS back and it's still on air [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► injection like it's that show is still [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► on air reviewing current cards which [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► boggles my mind but I with PBS I want [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► yeah that was like the most dry kind of [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► not trying to be entertaining in any way [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► like they would they would show the same [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► video of like the head shoulders and [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► body of a guy getting into a car and [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► buckling the seatbelt and moving the [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► seat forward [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► fiddling with the controls on the [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► dashboard and they would describe it as [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► kind of like a video consumer reports if [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► you can imagine such a thing [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► this is yeah is this the one with the [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► oddly named x editor of car driver like [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► chubby chubby or something now he is [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► he's actually an interesting person in [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► this show did not gonna look at who's [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► who's on the show always mills maryland [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► maryland 2117 so I know that address off [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► the top of my head what I don't know [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► what you got to talk to me now I don't [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► even know it out google 4000 wingsss [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► owings mills maryland i think i think [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► it's funny like when we first started [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► doing this show how because we were [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► three guys doing a car show everyone [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► tried to figure out which top gear [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► presenter each one of us would represent [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► and of course I'm talking about the [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► British will not the US won because [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► we're you know for real people here and [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► and you know everybody tried to kind of [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► crammed us in there but I think what's [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► what's interesting and the reason why [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► that doesn't work is you know on top [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► gear you have these three very different [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► personalities i'm pretty sure though [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► among the cast here at neutral that we [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► are all just James may I all three of us [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► were just three James Mays and i think i [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► think the difference in the mood between [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► the show and top gear probably indicates [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► whitetop year doesn't just have three [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► James me hates yeah and it's funny to me [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► that that everyone who seemed to set [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► when they when they tried to associate [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► us with the top your cast it seemed that [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► everyone felt like John is James May and [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► given your physical stature you [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► immediately became hammond and then by [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► you're running out of other options IM [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► Clarkson right [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► really that's what I'm telling myself it [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► we also have a little bits of each of [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► the people in us we all have a little [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► bit of the nerdy James May apart and I [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► think even like Jeremy is very [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► opinionated about cars often with no [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► real foundation and no foundation in [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► logic is just kind of like his gut [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► feeling and we all have some of that [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► about all are you know whatever little [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► part of cars that were interested in we [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► have that sort of gut feeling and [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► Hammond is more of like a [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► twelve-year-old maybe hell yeah like a [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► like a wide-eyed kind of fascination and [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► he's not interested in the technical [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► details and he doesn't ruminate and [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► think hard about the gut feeling of what [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► how car should be he just gets excited [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► by whatever gets them excited so I think [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► there's a little piece of all those [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► presenters as they call them in all of [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► these I think what bothered me about [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► being compared all the time to hammond [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► or being guests to be hand and is that [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► I'd really don't like American cars at [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► all like I I really strongly dislike [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► american cars and I i really don't [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► intend to ever own one [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► yeah but if you had grown up in England [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► would you like American cars because [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► then it would be it would be these [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► strange different exotic thing you know [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► what I mean I don't you want me to think [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► all my friends like the whatever they [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► like but I i mean i like different [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► things you know i mean i have to cross [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► some water to get to Germany to yeah [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► well actually the the i agree with what [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► you said John but a couple years ago [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► actually surprised several years ago now [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► Clarkson did a mini-series on inventions [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► that changed the world and it was an [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► unbelievably good miniseries where he [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► investigated like the history and [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► stories behind several different things [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► and Marco you've seen it right course [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► have you haven't seen this John I've [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► seen changes amazed I stories which is [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► also excellent but now it is not the [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► same in what's interesting to me about [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► Clarkson is I agree that he is very non [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► cerebral I don't think anyway and that [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► he's just very much from the gut but he [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► has an unbelievable appreciation for [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► engineering and for technology and in [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► fact I think he was on like the last [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► flight of the conchords airplane he did [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► it he did one of the inventions that [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► changed the world episodes was on the [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► jet engine another one is on the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► computer i forget what the other ones [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► were off the top of my head gunpowder i [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► believe is one but they were you'll have [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► to dig one up John there there dig them [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► up i should say that they're really [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► really good there about an hour peace [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► and they're really thoughtful in it [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► exposed to side of Clarkson that I don't [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► think I had been privy to previously [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► meanwhile james may's toy stories expose [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► exactly what you expect [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► yeah I I don't understand celebrity and [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► in England I don't understand how that [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► works are I mean our why these people [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► are celebrities as opposed to like all [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► the other enemy that they're interesting [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► and their personal or whatever but I [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► guess we just used to an America with a [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► larger pool of people to choose from [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► there's always something superlative [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► about someone that's widely known in a [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► celebrity and they're usually very very [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► good-looking no matter what other thing [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► about them is interesting you know what [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► I mean anything with with England like [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► because it is so few people there it is [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► more like it's like like the best people [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► you'd find in the u.s. to do like a [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► national news broadcast [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► you got a pretty big pool of people to [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► pick from there in England it's more [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► like the best people you'd find in the [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► new york metro area for Rhode Island [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► floor like Philadelphia like it's it's [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► really like it's I don't even know i [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► think somebody once told me about side [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► of Philadelphia's that is that accurate [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► anyway they're like my population [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► something like that it it's you know [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► it's about the size of like a [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► medium-sized or medium to large American [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► city so it's like it's more like just [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► what it's more like the local local [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► talent pool of a good-sized City I can't [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► imagine that's actually accurate because [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► London alone is huge now it's 66 million [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► for the UK is a pretty big sorry [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► yeah but I get what you're saying but [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you were going for here is that in the [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► land of the blind the one-eyed man is [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► king like one state then yeah fun stuff [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► and even topics today i have a few I i [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► have my pocket topic of hawai i like [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► hondas which takes like two minutes and [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► then you could say why you're like the [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► cars that you like I'm yeah I'm curious [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► let's get let's do it like a weekend we [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► interrupt can we do some follow-up well [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► you can just followed by what can I do [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► some follow-up with whatever you know I [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► was right about something [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► darn it we have gotten a surprisingly [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► small amount of feedback regarding my [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► obsession with backing into parking [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► spots you knew it was coming I can hear [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► you guys sign even though i can't hear [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► you sign in it was interesting to me [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► because I expected a fewer of people [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► explaining how much more on a.m. and [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► there was certainly some of that but [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► there was also a decent amount of people [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► saying that I'm not an idiot in one in [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► particular [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► let me find this email this person asked [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► not to be named so i will not name them [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► but it's a fairly short email and i [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► think pretty well summarized how i feel [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► i found this topic on reverse parking [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► into base basis an interesting topic [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► although i would completely disagree [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► with both mark and John and obviously [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► I'm immediately endeared to this email [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► as a person will always reverse into a [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► parking space i base my reasoning on [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► this for safety in my opinion by [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► reversing into a space you're always in [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► a situation where you can safely and [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► easily see what other cars are and [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► causing less of a hazard to others when [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► backing you are able to manipulate and [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► control the traffic with your verse [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► maneuver spelled oddly i think it's like [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► the european spelling anyway with full [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► visibility of what other drivers are [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► doing this is then the same when exiting [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► as you are in an optimum situation for [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► seeing what other cars are and when it's [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► free to pull out into traffic and I [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► thought that was a pretty good summary [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► of something that several other people [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► sent as well and how I feel about things [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► a selection bias though because the vast [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► majority of people listening heard you [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► were nodding your head hurt you give [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► your crazy idea heard me Marco shoot [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► down so while you're working on that you [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► need to do the only people you're going [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► to get other people are like who want to [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► fight against this injustice [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► maybe you're absolutely right totally [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► you know yeah i responded to a couple of [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► feedback things I didn't I don't see you [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► guys when I response was talking to the [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► listener really and we had a [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► back-and-forth with them and what one [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► person i forgot where they were from [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► saying that it was it was very common [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► where they were and I think if that [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► makes a difference if it if it's common [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► where you are all the things about [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► blocking up traffic and annoying people [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► and potentially getting into accidents [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► for people who don't realize that you've [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► stopped there now backing up because [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► they're not paying attention or go for [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► the same spot that you're going forward [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► your end of colliding like that got that [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► almost goes away if everybody is backing [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► in all the time but that is not the case [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► in the u.s. everybody is not back in so [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► when you back in you are hazards other [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► people you're ignoring them by blocking [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► up the area and they're not going to [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► notice that you're doing this they're [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► not going to notice your your your [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► backup lights come on they're just gonna [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► Ram you because i'm not paying attention [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► to texting their friends are going to go [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► for the spot that I think you drove past [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► it and that's why still kc you should [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► not be back in scoring spot unless you [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► move to another country where everybody [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► does it in which case go nuts and and [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► you can't come certainly can't come here [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► because here want [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► we didn't mention yet because I i assume [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► you know people who have this problem [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► just never even consider any other [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► option is if you're parking spots are [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► set on an angle a larger where you were [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► usually that just means you know that [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► each each lane and a lot has a one-way [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► restriction on how you can drive and you [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► can only pull straight in [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► I'm you know because usually just an [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► angle to save space [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► it's just hate to save overall width of [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► how wide that Lane can be in places [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► where you have tight spaces like older [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► cities and and just dense areas that [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► somehow still have parking spots and and [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► so yeah like if you're if you have [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► selected parking spot you you kind of [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► can't pull in or at least without being [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► totally ridiculous and that drives me [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► nuts when I see people do that and more [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► will like it they'll see doesn't pull [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► through and pull through but they're [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► facing the wrong way right now known as [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► allowed and they're screwed right right [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► and that's my point so even as a [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► developed backer inner guy thing I that [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► still drives me crazy so John what do [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► you like on too so much [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► yeah I should have written up stuff for [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► this but it's not doing it [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► oh that's the spirit yeah so the first [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► thing is that the whole reason ever get [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► into and is the same reason most people [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► get into anything is like you just you [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► just fall into it because you know in [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► case of cars it's like you know what [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► youre happened to buy your first car in [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► my case it's what your parents have some [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► of my parents had a big minivan for the [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► whole family and then we had at the time [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► I i got my license we have a smaller car [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► smaller second card was a honda civic [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► and that eventually got added to with it [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► or replace with integra when I took the [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► specific but that was the first honda [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► that our family didn't have before that [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► it was a series of okay we got a bunch [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► of american cars you got a Volvo in [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► there always will be ill pontiac [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► volkswagen rabbit like all sorts of [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► things but this is the very first honda [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► that I'd ever come in contact with so i [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► feel like i had a good experience of the [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► range of kind of cars that you could [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► have both the cars and my parents owned [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► and relatives that I had written in so [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► the things that are distinct about a [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► hundred stood out to me because I guess [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► the only other car had you know the [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► Volvo has its own sort of [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► characteristics which are kind of exotic [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► and weird and the Volkswagen is a little [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► bit exotic but the rest of the images [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► series of American car so the honda [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► really stood out to me [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► wow this car is different than the other [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► cars that we've gotten up because it's [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► new or anything but just because the [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► value system that made it is different [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► and the things that stood out to me [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► about the honda and this is what we [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► talked about 9,200 i'm going to talk [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► about where honda lost its way started [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► to stray from the things that i love [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► about it where that they the trade-offs [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► that made one is that they decided if [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► there's a choice between lightness and [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► heaviness go with lightness so lots of [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► other cars we have a quieter because [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► they had no more sound-deadening [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► material or you know that sticker sheet [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► metal or just you know there was more [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► mass around them and everything [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► honda would pick the opposite which [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► produced a very lightweight car you know [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► some people think it's like a flimsy [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► feeling like if you're into american [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► cars you think I just feel flimsy [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► because everything is small and light [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► but i really like that and I that [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► extends to the controls the gearshift [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► you know very it's not a big chunky me [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► debe thing it's a very tiny little thing [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► that the clutch pedal was you know [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► almost like hitting the brake or gas [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► pedal incredibly light especially after [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► the Volvo which was the manual that I [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► learned on which was like a Nautilus [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► machine for your left leg unbelieving [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► offer for all 84 or 85 horsepower that [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► clutch had like her are ya [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► everything about it was just incredibly [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► light and even the steering which was no [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► I believe it was 92 Pacific slot power [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► steering but it was very light not over [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► boosted life but the whole car was like [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► I mean that little experience with see [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► no light in areas like wow this is like [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► a breath of fresh air the second thing [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► is this was a very common characteristic [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► for early honda's what they call locale [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► height which means like the height of [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► the dashboard and the hood and [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► everything in front of you but i don't [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► know like where-- where-- intersects [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► your eyeline basically you know when you [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► look down the front of the car at how [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► much can you see do you feel like you're [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► looking at the slower out of a slit in [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► the tank like that's that's something a [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► lot of American cars had not like the [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► muscle-car things where everything about [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► it is HEIs got high shoulders high [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► catalyzing you kind of look like it [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► looks great from the outside looks very [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► low-profile low-slung but you feel like [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► you're looking at a tiny little slit and [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► you can't really see the road in front [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► of you because you have this hood that's [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► blocking your view on it was the [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► opposite of it shoved everything down [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► and that produce dorky-looking cars they [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► produce cars look like you know that the [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► height of the door was very low in this [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► big expensive glass [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► this big tall bubble thing and in fact [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► that the sort of the apex of this [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► philosophy was the acura nsx which one [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► they were designing a sex one of the [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► design inspiration of this is one of my [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► 11 of the best design inspirations I've [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► heard four carbons here to say our [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► design we were inspired by the wind or [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► some other you know PS there whatever [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► that they were inspired for the nsx by [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the design of the f16 cockpit and the [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► f16 top it off you know the button is [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► this thing looks like yeah maybe [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► anyway thank you Mark ok Google one that [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► was designed so that there would be a [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► lot of this little power would have a [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► lot of visibility front back and all the [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► side so it was kind of like get the [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► plane down below and then make a bubble [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► sticking out of the plane that the [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► person sits in and you know you can see [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► back into the bubble besides like [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► everywhere you you have more more [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► visibility because you are sort of up on [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► a perch so the nsx was like get the car [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► down low out of the way and then put a [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► glass kind of bubble popping out of that [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► so that you have good visibility all [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► around which is again very counter to [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► the typical you know what kind of [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► visibility got out of a Lamborghini or [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► something where you you really are [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► looking through these tiny little slits [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► in your rear visibility is terrible [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► because it's like a wing back there in [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► the engine is back there and you can't [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► see anything [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► the nsx was consciously trying not to do [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► that and you look at a section and [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► profile you'll see flat kind of car [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► person as low as accountants and this [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► bubble on top of it so you can see back [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► front and the sides and all hondas were [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► like that it looks good to me a Saxon [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► looks very dorky and the other cars [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► because you really to see lots of [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► greenhouse and like a little cat little [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► miniature car squish down underneath [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► this giant greenhouse and I like the big [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► green house because it gives me head [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► class this is that this tiny little [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► Civic was the car that i had the most [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► Headroom in of all the cars that we had [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► ever owned all which were substantially [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► larger so i gave that a big thumbs up [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► and it was also this was before the d [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► content in crisis i think that's what [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► they called it of Japanese cars where I [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► don't know why I'm not going to [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► speculate on something something to [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► exchange rates or the Japanese economy [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► or whatever but it used to be the [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► Japanese cars could have all sorts of [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► stuff and then it was nice like still [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► selling of her reasonable price [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► there's a great economics lesson waving [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► my hand widely and later on I be it [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► they couldn't do that anymore ate it [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► cost them or they would have to sell [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► their car for much more money if they [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► put the same amount of stuff in it so [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► some examples from my city that had [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► talked about on hypercritical some point [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► or another the the civic the 92 civic [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► head a very small trunk is because I can [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► make it was very small at the opening [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► was very small out and when you lift up [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► the trunk lid it didn't have those [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► little gooseneck idea that was a total [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► episode introduce next didn't have those [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► little metal gooseneck things like that [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► connect the trunk to the back so when [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► you close those little things you know [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► intrude into the trunk very I crushed [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► her status right they had their little [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► struts little you know I think they're [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► automatic little air-filled struts [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► series of them you know a couple links [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► so that when you pull the lid up you [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► know we can open-close nicely but [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► nothing intrude into the trunk space and [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► that's more expensive to make and more [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► fragile and it more difficult to design [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► everything but they could afford to put [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► that in their cheapest of the cheapest [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► of the cheapest card that they made at [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► the time it was one side mirror you know [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► they couldn't afford a second sign here [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► but had that and that the cars were [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► designed to be like okay it's not going [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► to be expensive car but every part of [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► you put in is going to be nice and high [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► quality we're not going to cheap out in [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► something like that so that was that was [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► the honda that I love lightweight good [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► visibility locale height snappy feeling [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► small kind of almost delicate controls [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► and of course you know very reliable and [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► you know all the other good qualities [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► you want you don't you know you don't [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► want to be things you don't want things [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► to be falling apart you wanted things to [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► feel high quality of high quality as [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► they can in a cheap car and then in [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► subsequent years when the D contact me [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► began specific got a crappy trunk that [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► they the design of the car started to [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► creep up you start to get you know [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► higher and higher Heights some on the on [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► the doors and you know the dashboard [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► start to rise up the cars became a [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► little bit fatter and heavier both [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► styling wise and weight wise which [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► course happened to all cars at the same [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► time and I just felt like they were they [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► were leaving me behind the snappy little [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► shifter became just like a kind of [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► mediocre or naughty little shifter that [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► didn't feel snappy you know the steering [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► was still light but it didn't have as [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► much road feel and it you know just [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► started to get it started to go bad for [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► me I think they're coming back from that [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► now like that the court my god is like [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► the last acceptable court would have got [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► which is like 2007 [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► I would not have what I need the cord in [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► between and now the 2013 looks like it's [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► getting a Honda is back thumbs up but i [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► have to test drive myself and see have [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► they recaptured what I liked about [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► honda's or have or is it still you know [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► not as good as it used to be so what's [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► your alternative if you drive this thing [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► that the 2013 accord and you don't care [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► for it i don't know i mean before even [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► considering that when the the cords are [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► all terrible and you know the hardest i [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► didn't like the new Civic Center like [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► the chords that unless certainly didn't [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► like the crosstour and other things i [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► looked at all sorts of things like what [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► about a Volvo wagon I kind of you know I [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► do have a soft spot for vowels but volvo [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► is you know going nowhere fast and volvo [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► SuperDuper expensive i looked at the [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► Subarus but I just I couldn't haha i [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► like it i don't i don't like their [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► styling I don't like I've driven by my [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► friends have a super drove his I don't [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► like how they are you know I don't like [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► the sound of the engines make me come as [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► light as they're not like that i was [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► looking for the four-wheel-drive aspect [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► right if you know it it's basically like [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► if I i don't i don't want a toyota the [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► the the new bigger passat is kind of [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► like the big bloated record that I [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► didn't like [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► so I don't know I was kind of stuck [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► between a rock and a hard place like the [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► baby i would have to spend a lot more [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► money i feel like is that the accord is [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► a reasonably priced car that I hoping [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► that I would like and if I don't what [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► what other alternatives to have for a [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► car that will actually like I don't know [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► if it's gonna it's gonna cost a lot more [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► the nsx yeah it doesn't really hold two [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► kids that well now you can you can be [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► creative and I'm sure to figure [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► something out [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► yeah you're an engineer think i like how [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► you know you see how the the visibility [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► out of the car is so important to you [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► because it is for me too and that ruins [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► a lot of cars for me when that's bad and [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► and like because I'm not a tall guy I'm [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► like I'm like 5-6 so I but i like having [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► good visibility so what I usually do is [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► have my seat raised up as usually to the [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► highest that it will go in or very close [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► to that that also helps [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► I used to have a back problem from [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► driving too much for a while ahead i had [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► a herniated lower disk and one of the [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► better ways to sit if you have back [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► problems or to avoid back problems is to [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► make it so that your butt is not lower [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► than your knees more than it has to be [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► so in some cars this is easier than [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► others in big like vans and trucks you [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► sit so much higher up that usually this [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► is significantly easier but in cars you [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► know the the kind of lousy seating [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► position that a lot of people prefer for [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► short-term comfort is basically like [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► your butt is almost on the floor your [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► knees are up above it and your kind of [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► leading back diagonally and that is that [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► is the worst thing you can do to your [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► back and eventually this will catch up [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► to you could if you don't have a lot or [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► if you set that was the seating position [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► in my 92 civic the seats for like [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► basically on the floor and and you know [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► and then I your feet were out in front [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► of you your feet there isn't going down [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► into the the footwell for the pedals it [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► was just going forward so well and i [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► love this because this was a car with my [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► hair didn't hit the headliner and you're [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► heading the headliner doesn't like a big [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► deal that annoys the hell out of you if [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► your hair is like you know I'm the [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► little felt you know mouse for headliner [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► it just drives you insane so believe it [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► or not that is actually have had that [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► problem but you wouldn't you would never [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► guess knowing me I was not being as tall [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► as you but because I put the seat so [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► high i have occasionally had that [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► problem and and believe me I know how [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► annoying it is and in fact like when i [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► was doing that that uh that M racing day [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► you had to wear a race helmet in the [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► cars and I had to sit significantly [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► lower than i usually do because my [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► helmet was hitting the ceiling and [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► suppose the head like way worse [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► visibility than I usually do not because [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► wearing a helmet but because i couldn't [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► put the seat up I enough but yeah and so [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► like that that's one of the reasons why [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► I got the 1m because I don't really have [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► any desire for what most people consider [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► like sports cars like this the compact [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► like roadster style or the supercars are [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► very low to the ground [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► I don't I don't feel comfortable in [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► those I don't like driving those I don't [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► like even writing them very much as [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► eight you're just like hugging the [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► ground and I know there's lots of [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► reasons why i should like that you know [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► it feels faster looks cooler it's way [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► more aerodynamic the cars are smaller [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► that there's there's a lot of reasons to [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► like that but i don't i'm not the kind [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► of person who likes it and so I would [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► just say that I make an exception for [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► visibility complaints for ferrari so [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► funny 171 please do not refrain from [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► sending on i will accept almost no [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► visibility whatsoever out of these cars [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► in exchange for driving line that's [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► thicker but like you but you would you [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► want to own one assuming that you're [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► that you're dented roof problem went [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► away [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► ya know if you've given infinite money [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► the car i will get would get would be a [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► Ferrari no question it's already it's [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► all planned out even with the poor [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► visibility and you and your hair hitting [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► the club yes now i will have its own [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► little house that will live in but [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► didn't and clean by crew each day and [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► yes it will it will be lovely and i will [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► learn how to drive because I you know [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► I've driven large trucks as part of you [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► know summer jobs as a kid and everything [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► in comedy rearward visibility when [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► you're driving a dump truck you just [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► learned how to do it [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► I'm willing to do that a sacrifice I'm [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► willing to make it on a Ferrari have I [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► told the story on on here about me [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► driving a Ferrari you mentioned it but [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► you didn't take didn't expand on it [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► okay well i'll take this as an [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► opportunity to do so so in Connecticut [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► when i was learning how to drive a [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► driver said was not a part of the [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► school's you did it outside of school [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► and Connecticut driver's a totem [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► Ferraris no no not at all [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► that was cited on neighborhoods yeah I [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► was gonna say it was made not in my part [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► of Connecticut so anyway [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► well I didn't do driver said because [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► wasn't part of school and in my parents [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► were like no you don't need to bother [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► with that so that because i didn't [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► drivers that I could get my license tall [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► 16 and a half and i did so and i took [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► the driver's test in the saturn that was [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► a five-speed never thought I was out of [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► my mind but I didn't pass my first time [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► it was it was no big deal [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► well um it was a couple of weeks later [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► and my I was coming home at a reasonable [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► hour but it was like after dinner or [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► something like that and i noticed that [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► no I knew that my parents were having [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► some friends over and I noticed very [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► quickly as I was rounding the bend to [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► come up to my parents driveway which was [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► very very stever is very very steep that [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► there was a shiny red Ferrari sitting at [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► the end of it and i want to say it was a [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► 355 I'm probably wrong [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► but here what year was this this was if [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► I was 16 this was ninety eight ish give [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► or take a little bit 1999 good I'm yes [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► but anyway so there's this beautiful [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► ferrari sitting at the bottom of the [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► driveway so I got the driveway and I go [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► walking in and I know immediately that [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► the owner that Ferrari is a family [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► friend of ours who is of Italian [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► heritage and own garbage companies in [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► New York and Connecticut and so that we [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► know that means well in i believe [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► nothing we don't know anything yet we [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► don't know anything and we don't know [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► that I believe he's currently in jail [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► I'm not that is not a joke so anyway so [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► I said hey insert name here I really [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► like your car today thanks to go for a [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► ride [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► uh yeah so we go walking back down the [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► driveway and he takes me to this road [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► that that my parents neighborhood is off [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► of and it's like a three or four mile [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► stretch that's for all intents and [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► purposes straight straight as an arrow [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► and so we go down the stretch and he [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► does a you at the end come back towards [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► my parents house all of a sudden stops [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► the middle of the road in this light [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► quarter-million-dollar ferraris stops in [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► the middle of the road and this is a [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► well-traveled Road gets out and I hear [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► him say over his shoulder your turn [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► I'm 16 and a half I've been driving for [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► about six months and my family friend is [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► telling me to get behind the wheel of [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► his Ferrari ok so I jump in the driver's [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► seat [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► I thought the kind of guy you say no to [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► exam well the that's true anyway Casey [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► an offer he can't refuse littering very [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► very literally so I get behind the [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► driver's seat and I'd giggle a little [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► bit as i realize that i'm about to drive [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► a ferrari and of course it was a stick [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► because this was before the es el [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► automagic automatic manuals and I [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► immediately noticed that all three [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► pedals were basically one pedal because [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► they were so close together but I did [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► take off fine i did not stall i did not [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► burn rubber and we're going down the [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► road and I am doing nothing exciting it [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► was the most boring drive a ferrari that [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► has ever happened and then the gentleman [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► who owned it looked over at me comments [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► can be not upset since hey how fast do [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► you think you're going as [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► 35-40 the speed limit i believe is 35 [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► want to check it out so I looked down [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► and I look at the speedometer and I can [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► go first second cause there's a prancing [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► horse in the middle of the speedometer [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► and then I realize holy god I'm doing [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► about 70 I had no idea and granted i [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► wasn't a new driver but I mean I knew [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► the difference between 1730 and I could [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► have sworn I was doing 35 40 and I [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► covered the 72nd here though [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► yeah it's also true and so we got home I [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► did not pull it up the driveway [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► everything was fine and to this day that [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► is one of my favorite driving [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► experiences of all time I mean it again [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► i wish i could tell you that I i stood [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► on the gas that i did a brake check just [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► for the fun of it i did nothing exciting [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► but yet it was the most exciting drive i [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► think i've ever had in my life my most [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► exciting counter for with Ferraris even [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► more boring we can have a contest for 10 [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► with that is not one of the most boring [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► area here is my most exciting counter [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► before i think i've also told the story [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► before but tough luck if i went to [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► Boston University which is very [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► expensive school that lots of [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► foreign-born people go to because they [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► have lots of money i don't know and [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► they're the people who go here from [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► other countries especially for middle [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► eastern countries like you know oil [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► barons or whatever the parents and the [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► kids to school they buy them an [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► apartment to stay in or renting an [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► apartment stand the ma I guess they rent [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► them or by the car I don't know how [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► these cars come to be angry they're [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► college students undergraduates who have [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► cars including Ferraris so I my [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► undergraduate years like this is the [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► first time that would be for our isn't a [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► regular basis just walking to and from [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► class they'd be parked or double park [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► along the road is about universities [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► right along commonwealth avenue which is [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► very busy road as cars parked all wanted [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► someone would be Ferraris and I were [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► just you know Otto bellman lots of bmw's [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► so you know lots of whatever that [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► generation of m3 was that the one that [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► actually liked what you ninety four [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► through seven was at the e90 even worst [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► experience ever 3636 was late nineties [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► 40s early 2000s the one where they at [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► the very end of the rain they just add a [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► little like masks to the aisle to the [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► headlights was like the old headlights [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► but they just put a little little mask [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► on the bottom of it to like make a [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► little circle cut outs remember that [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► to be honest I do not know I'm [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► disappointed myself anyway I look it up [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► but i would look at all these cars and [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► so one day coming out of the what was [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► then the College of Liberal Arts or CLA [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► but is now has a different name which is [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► worse [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► cas much worse anyway there was you know [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► Ferrari parked out i believe it was [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► either 348 or 355 because the the was [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► the popular ferrari for the kids to have [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► an interesting up everybody just said [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► that was the popular Ferrari was like [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► seven of them and it was like another [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► 494 there was all 348 and this then you [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► know 100 the first thing that came out [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► 94 so then you start to see them in [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► later years but anyway I come down the [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► steps for coming out of the classroom [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► building and there's a Ferrari sitting [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► there it's covered convertible ferrari [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► about half of them were convertible and [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► it's sitting there with the engine [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► running with nobody around it just you [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► know parked on the side of the road [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► you still living no that's not right [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► about this is the most boring story but [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► I thought fit look how many times is [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► gonna happen to you in your life i did i [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► did you know it'sit's the college's [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► people everywhere no one's gonna really [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► notice you is a Ferrari with the engine [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► running with the keys in it with nobody [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► around that owns it like no one is [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► leaning on it no one's talking in a [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► group here is just sitting there and why [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► isn't the people are rich and [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► irresponsible my teenagers major scene [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► he's probably off smoking somewhere [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► around the corner or whatever and I [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► thought you know this may be your only [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► chance to ever do this but then I [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► thought you might go to jail or die and [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► so I've in july i decided not to do it [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► that is that isn't even more bored but [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► to this day as Casey the Casey remembers [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► his drive it just went straight down [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► this road going a little bit too fast i [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► still remember and relive that moment of [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► like this could be the time that you [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► that you get to drive a ferrari this [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► could be the most exciting drive of your [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► life [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► I just want to my next class I might [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► have even more boring ferrari story i'll [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► go out and what about you can top that I [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► didn't actually even touch the car [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► well I don't even like caress it as i [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► walked by I have done that but here's my [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► story uh I don't know five years ago six [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► years ago I went to a party with the guy [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► who was in with the people who run [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► yeah an exotic car rental place in [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► jersey called Gotham dream cars and so I [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► went to the part that like the Christmas [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► party at Gotham dream cars which is just [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► like in their warehouse in New Jersey [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► and their house was just full of all of [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► their ridiculous cars and this is the [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► kind of place where you can pay like a [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► thousand dollars a day to rent a [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► Lamborghini or Ferrari or something so [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► they had all their cars open in their [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► warehouse for everyone just you know sit [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► in so I went through you know as I'm [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► like you know holding like a beer and [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► cocktail appetizers [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► I went and SAT in all these cars just [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► for a few minutes looking at them took [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► some pictures sitting in them that's it [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► so I've I bet you engage the cars and [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► you've got into them that's not that's [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► more exciting than mine [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► you'd be surprised how how not [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► interesting it is to just sit in a [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► really nice car and not actually like [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► not not only are you not driving it but [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► you aren't even even being in or near a [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► while it is being driven by somebody [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► else like it's just like up here Zach [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► are just sitting here like it's not that [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► different look at pictures of online now [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► it's going i have a very vaguely similar [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► story that I've been looking for a [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► reason to tell so thank you for giving [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► me the reason when i was $DAY i want to [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► say 12 ish tennis twelvish my [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► grandmother whom is still around this is [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► my dad's mom and we were really close at [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► the time and we she lived in Manhattan [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► and one day i was visiting her and I was [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► with my family if i'm not mistaken but [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► because occasionally I would go and just [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► hang out just the two of us [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► well I had like a car and driver [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► something like that at this point in my [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► life as with every other [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► twelve-year-olds I was obsessed with [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► Lamborghinis and so do my grandmother [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► whom I called man said to me hey you [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► know what are you looking at myself this [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► really cool car I've always wanted to [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► see what I've ever seen reports [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► what's a call with Lamborghini as well [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► let's find one let's go look at one [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► point man it's a quarter million dollars [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► an hour whatever I mean I didn't know [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► how much was like man it's really [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► expensive so next thing I know she's on [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► the phone with Maura motorsports which [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► is no longer around I've tried to find [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► them and I can't but they were they were [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► coming [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► lamborghini dealer across the river new [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► jersey vaguely near Liberty Science [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► Center from that mistaken and so she's [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► on the phone with a woman there who we [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► later find out is the owner and so she [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► says hey you know my grandson's visiting [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► I think I lived in illinois the time or [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► something like that [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► my grandson's visiting from Illinois and [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► he really loves Lamborghinis can can i [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► bring him by and the story i'm told [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► consistently is that the owner of the [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► company said without pausing and even an [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► instant said he's a potential buyer [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► bring them in and it was already made [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► clear that I'm well next thing i know [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► it's an hour later or maybe 30 know you [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► know Marco how long does it take to get [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► across the river anyway so forever [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► you got it sound infinite I so I was 16 [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► years old when we arrived a husband but [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► I we get to the dealer and this was when [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► the diablo was new or it within the last [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► day or two just come out last year too [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► so in the showroom there was a black [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► Diablo there was a white countach used [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► that was previously owned by mario [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► andretti and i think one or two other [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► cars but I I can't even for life and [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► remember what they were [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► so I meet this woman in my recollection [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► of it was that she was fairly young like [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► late thirties early forties and and she [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► said you know I'm so glad you came down [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► she gave me a packet of information like [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► a like a sales brochure which I just [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► found the other day actually [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► and she said hey would you know why [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► don't you come sit in them and so she [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► opens up the diablo with the not [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► goldwing but the vertically opening [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► doors which at the time was not ruined [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► by fast and furious so it was actually [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► still cool and so she opens the door she [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► do she gets out of the way so I can sit [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► in it and I go to sit in it and officers [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► she grabs me and pulls me back and I'm [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► thinking myself holy god i don't know [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► what i just did I haven't even touched a [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► thing yet but I am screwed I'm like [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► going to jail because of 12 I didn't [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► know any better so she steps in front of [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► me says hold on a second takes the [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► plastic wrap off of the seats so that i [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► can sit on the leather and then says go [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► ahead [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► it was the coolest freaking experience [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► of my life and so I have pictures which [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► if I wasn't so lazy i would scan and we [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► would put in our non-existent show notes [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► but I have pictures of me sitting in a [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► diablo like 12 years old whatever it is [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► it was the coolest experience in the [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► world and i want so badly to be able to [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► find this woman and tell her you know [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► even 15 years later I still so fondly [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► remember that that that moment and and I [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► will always remember that moment and [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► I've tried to dig up the the more of [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► Motorsports company and it seems to have [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► folded i did find a website that i know [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► is them but it's just kind of like a [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► parked website i mean there was enough [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► information that tells the same people [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► but there was almost nothing to it and [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► I'm really bummed because I'd really [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► love to find them so if you know where [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► to find that picture and scan it I I was [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► treated at the very least i will i will [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► do that but yeah there was unbelievable [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► she was so gracious and so awesome and [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► and if somehow this thing ever finds her [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► thank you so many many millions of times [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► because it was unbelievably was a [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► life-changing experience as a [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► twelve-year-old meanwhile I just up the [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► pictures of my Christmas party gotten [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► dream cars and they are exactly as [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► boring as i as i remember them to be it [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► if you lie [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► no okay i can all share the pictures [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► afterwards it's just some fairly blurry [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► pictures of car interiors so with some [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► people you don't know hang around and [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► some Christmas lights and some cocktail [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► like we know that appetizer trays and [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► people hanging around like it's so it's [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► gonna end up here like it i'm looking at [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► Vipers Lamborghinis there's a 911 [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► there's a bunch of Ferraris whatever [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► lamborghini VT is I don't even know i [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► just i just read the back of it at like [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► that all the abandoned me I mean there's [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► all these crazy cars and and you know [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► just who was it was it was fun like to [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► stay i was there to say i was in all [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► these cars but it wasn't nearly as good [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► as it would have been cool if I was 12 [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► it would've been amazing but as somebody [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► who's old enough to drive all these cars [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► being around a bunch of them i'm not [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► driving them was surprisingly [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► uninteresting the problem with being old [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► that all these experience i have always [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► exotic cars many of them like modified [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► in college I didn't have a digital [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► camera at that time I didn't have [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► there's no you don't have a cellphone [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► with a camera I don't have a cell phone [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► . and so all you know if I did certainly [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► like as I was arguing these cars walking [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► to class I would have probably taken [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► pictures of them might take pictures of [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► my favorite and stuff but this [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► a record of these because I for four [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► years of college had no camera with me [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► during the day and didn't even occur to [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► me till I get my film camera and carried [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► to class so i could take a picture of [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► you know because then you would have [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► been a nerd i don't know i found a [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► picture of my mind not anyway it was the [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► the 46 and I place it into the chat room [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► you can look at the little things around [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► the headlights that I was thinking of [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► these have aftermarket body cladding on [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► the bottom of it just ignore that part [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► and look at the park around the head [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► life that's how identify I how identify [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► my m3 yeah that's definitely not need 36 [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► like you said and if I could have 46 [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► that I said it's not any thirty cents [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► yeah i mean if I can pull a Merlin for a [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► second nice pictures [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► those are pictures of me and the Diablo [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► in the concussion i'll scan a couple [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► after the show em anyway speaking of [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► Merlin this episode is once again [TS]

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00:41:57 ◼   ► i was thinking of stories that have [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► influenced our car opinions are [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► formative car experiences I thought of [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► one more for me this was when I was [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► gonna hold it wasn't so bad the time but [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► i would I was young before i could drive [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► was maybe 10 years old or something so [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► my family he didn't even have the the [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► mazda minivan at that point I just had [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► the Volvo station wagon and we [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► previously had a series of american cars [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► plus the Volkswagen Rabbit very long [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► time ago when I was very young so I have [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► never had experience with like nice cars [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► i guess i mean the volvo is kind of nice [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► it was like you p car but they weren't [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► bubbles were not as nice back then as [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► they are now in terms of luxury they [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► were more utilitarian and scandinavian [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► and weird and we had a cheap all it did [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► was not a nice car really so this was [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► with a friend's car and I was going with [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► a friend to go skiing i think we're [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► going to win them just in upstate New [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► York maybe it was a different matter but [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► i'm pretty sure wasn't and we were [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► driving up with just me my friend and [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► his father and his father ran ever have [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► a towing business and they weren't rich [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► by any means but they had you know more [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► money than the average middle class [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► family and his father with his little [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► bit of extra money had bought a used [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► Mercedes was an old s-class it was like [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► maybe an eighties early early to mid 80s [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► class and it was maybe you know a couple [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► a couple years old it wasn't like you [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► know whenever a generation after the the [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► s classes are available at that time [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► maybe two generations later I and we [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► drove up the skin place and I remember [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► the drive up i was probably just in the [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► backseat or whatever probably just [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► excited to go skiing and I was probably [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► tired because you got to leave like five [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► in the morning if you want to get there [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► at a reasonable time from Long Island [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► ski the whole day and when the day was [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► over we left and my friend wanted to [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► sleep on the in the backseat so we did [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► just laid out across the back seat and i [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► sat in the front seat [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► i I'm the drive back and [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► on the drive back very early in the dr [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► what I want to say is a black ford probe [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► was sort of you know driving around us [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► and immediately there became this game [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► between my friend's father and the ford [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► probe of I don't know what the game is [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► like we would pass them and he would [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► pass awesome you pass them but you know [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► kind of driving way too fast and [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► competitive manner of it in a playful [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► competitive manner with another car and [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► so I was in this big letter C that never [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► sent a legacy before in my life to see [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► this i believe it was heated but it [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► could have just been body heat windows [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► I'm playing with the little pictographic [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► a/c controls which by the way are one of [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► the most brilliant user interface [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► innovations in cars i don't know [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► Mercedes invented them but i think they [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► popularized the on talking about [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► absolutely you're absolutely right when [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► you reach it you know that is another [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► example of no touchscreen is helping you [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► there are no voice command is helping [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► that that control is just so far [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► superior and whoever come up with [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► instead of the old things like four [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► buttons you have to keep pressing each [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► 44 which ones that make the little [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► picture of the seat anyway I had [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► adjusted to the strange angle or some [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► sort of nestled in there and I'm sort of [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► hunched down and I'm little right and [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► what I'm looking at is that the back of [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► the ford probe darting in front of us [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► and going back and forth and I'm looking [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► at my friends father's speedometer and [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► tachometer as he drives you know it's [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► it's an s-class Mercedes is not a fast [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► carbon atom v8 and it was you know [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► relatively quick and so how is that not [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► as we are well past Mercedes of the big [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► boat once but so incredibly smooth like [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► it felt like I was floating on a piece [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► of glass and so solid feeling and so [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► silent i didn't know cars could even be [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► like this and we're going tremendously [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► fast touching a hundred several times [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► which was just I was you know giddy with [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► joy this entire time trying not to let [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► like I was trying to pretend like i was [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► like half asleep trying not to let my [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► friends know that I was giddy that he [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► was doing this with all the cars seem [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► like it's something illicit was going on [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► it was exciting but that changed how I [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► viewed cars that that they can be you [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► know so different than all the other [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► cars that i experienced and that you [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► could drive that quickly in that much [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► comfort in silence and have that much [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► fun and not have it be like you know [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► terrifying like it was when you went [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► over 60 in the volatile that that really [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► changed my view of cars make that [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► probably started me on reading car mag [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► seems and prior to that I was not into [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► them if you're out there mr. de celis [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► thank you for that [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► that drive was exciting and I'm glad you [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► didn't kill me whatever happened [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► involving I know they're still around i [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► know it was at 42 bought them somebody [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► forward for it took a large amount of [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► ownership once that happens here days [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► it's like GM taken over a sob yeah like [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► that because I mean I still see Volvo's [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► around and I remember when we were [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► looking for tips car looking at all the [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► different hatchbacks and everything we [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► did have to go to a volvo dealer look at [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► the c30 and its first of all it's pretty [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► hard to even find a volvo dealer in a [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► lot of places including including around [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► here like we have to go really far away [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► to find one and it just doesn't seem [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► like I still see them occasionally but [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► it doesn't seem like they're selling [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► very well guys I think I still might see [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► sobs more than I see all those yeah [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► they're very very expensive cars and [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► they usually don't pair up with equally [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► price cars in terms of any single factor [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► the one thing you've always had going [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► for it is two balls companies obsession [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► with safety right which is probably why [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► my parents got one and why i'm at i was [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► interested in them as well because back [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► when they were an independent company [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► and we're making their own platforms and [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► like calling all the shots their own [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► things that they were just so incredibly [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► obsessed with safety that they would [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► sacrifice everything else for their cars [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► would be ugly they would not be fast [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► they would be heavy they would be noisy [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► they would take the drivetrains wouldn't [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► be good like and you just knew [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► everything in that car was centered [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► around making it safe and I think [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► there's a place in the market for a car [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► companies that are obsessed with one [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► particular aspect of you wanted safety [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► when it wasn't just like all marketing [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► like was like oh we really care about [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► safety so by our cars like they devoted [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► resources and you know car designers and [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► scientists and research to safety and [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► we're willing to sacrifice like willing [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► to make that trade-off with the other [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► aspects of their cars but once you know [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► apparently it wasn't enough of the [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► markets the same then once they have to [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► take on the forward stuff then it's like [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► oh we should really have a common [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► platform in common drivetrain and maybe [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► your next ball will just be a reskin [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► forward we care about safety too and is [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► that what happened to solve in a while [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► then it's not they're not risking force [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► but they want more platforms sharing [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► Iran that was sabzi more like that that [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► sob and GM they wanted them to you know [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► share more parts with the GM [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► you know platforms and stuff like that [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► is just it once you lose what's unique [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► about the thing and you're trying to [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► stick to contain like you know bad [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► marketing were like you're just you're [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► just buying a plane lgm heart's been car [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► with red John it you know yeah that that [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► that's do mentoring I don't know what [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► caused the downfall of these companies [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► it's probably just that maybe it's not [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► as big a market as they think those [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► things maybe it's just that the the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► fixed baseline cost of being a car [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► company so large that you can't just be [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► you know unless here at the super duper [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► high end that is uncomfortable middle [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► ground like if your Ferrari fine you can [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► make a small number of cars you can [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► build a couple by Fiat so what am I [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► saying but in that middle ground where [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► you're not selling SuperDuper expensive [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► cars but you do want to sell a lot of [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► them but they're weird i don't know how [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► you don't know how do you sustain right [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► like cars were you can't really compete [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► very well on price but you have to come [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► pretty close and so like you you're not [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► going to be like no one's ever going to [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► name you the best value you do have some [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► fans but they're not going to spend 300 [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► grand for your cars like Ferraris so [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► it's more like yeah people like shot and [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► you have the regular cars to sustain you [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► like it forward can afford to have all [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► sorts of weird cars because they have [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► like their bread and butter car that's [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► ok that'll bring in the money and then [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► we're going to four are you know like [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► you know chrysler can afford will almost [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► ditch the Viper can afford to have the [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► vibrant sell lots of boring car to [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► support them but if your volleyball you [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► sell these weird safety focus cars that [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► previously were very ugly and they're [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► not they're not as nice driving cars BMW [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► using it and then I don't have much cash [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► a is a Mercedes and not even is good [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► cars that like and the other thing is i [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► think other company started their lunch [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► because Mercedes is also almost as [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► maniacally safety focused as always and [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► that's like the bumper right up against [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► each other it's like well ball was [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► really really stay focused but Mercedes [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► pretty focus to and having other aspects [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► that I like so well so let's go out [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► there and they're still nice cars but [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► they're there are so many safety [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► regulations now with cars and and all [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► the crash testing that we do now that I [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► feel like the entire industry stepped up [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► their game with safety especially in the [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► nineties and and since then even more [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► and so it seems like if your specialty [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► is safety then your your advantages he [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► wrote it when the rest of the industry [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► gets pretty damn i don't think i don't [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► think the advantage was eroded because [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► I'm [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► that in in relative terms it was not I [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► feel like they like they held the lead [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► right up to the point where their [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► engineer stop being able to design their [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► cars and I have to just you know slap [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► badges on Ford stuff but like it [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► the absolute level raised up so like [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► even though the relative distance was [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► still very big everyone else had gone up [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► so much higher you've got a prior to [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► like is the difference between design [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► your car so that it passes the safety [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► test and designing your car so that it's [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► so safe that even if you did even by not [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► paying attention to safety testing just [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► passes all of them as you know like like [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► we know the exact massive speeds and [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► angles that the collisions are going to [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► happen and all these standardized tests [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► and all these different countries so we [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► design our car so it survives all those [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► perfectly fine but if you hit a slightly [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► different angle or slightly different [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► speed it wouldn't survive as well [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► involved just want to make a tank that [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► hit me from any angle we don't care [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► we're gonna survive everything and we're [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► you know we're gonna go crazy with the [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► safety stuff that I mean they're still [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► out there still doing the stuff with the [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► you know car that will stop itself if it [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► senses your about that something like [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► almost self-driving car type stuff [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► they're adding an electronics you know [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► that's the new frontier of safety [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► against besides just building your car [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► like a tank right but yeah probably [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► probably their error is a pioneer has [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► has passed them by [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► and unfortunately building a car like a [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► tank is is no longer that easy with fuel [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► efficiency requirements [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► absolutely because if you want to build [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► like a tank needs to weigh as much as a [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► tank and and that's obviously contrary [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► also not if you put no sound deadening [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► material in it like our Volvo wagon you [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► could hear every pedal clicking [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► underneath the car yet what year was [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► that also mean I was 1781 follow wagon [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► yeah that was before a lot of stuff was [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► required that takes up more weight and [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► and before this the fuel emission [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► standards and and efficiency standards [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► are so strict right now like eat that [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► the the standard so aggressive for [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► especially the US and actually i think i [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► think in Europe they're even more [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► aggressive aren't in many ways but the [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► standard so aggressive that there's a [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► lot less room for individuality it 44 [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► wildly different priorities in car [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► design among all the big brands because [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► now it's like like you have to have this [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► certain average of fuel economy among [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► your line and [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► all the cards have to be at least this [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► and if you do this and that attack [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► accessory John I think it's mostly a [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► cost concerns like we can make cars [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► fuel-efficient just depending on cost [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► like you all you gotta do is lighter [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► materials is so easy to do but lighter [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► materials cost more money so i think i [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► think we're standardization hurts the [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► most [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► safety standardization particular hurts [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► the most is in styling variation because [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► you cannot pass this the arbitrary test [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► safety bumper crash-test types things [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► without some minimal overhang size like [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► unless you use exotic materials when you [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► have a price problem so that's why i [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► like the the porsche boxster concept [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► that everybody loved the first actual [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► boxed off the assembly line like the [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► production version did not look nearly [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► as good you like well it's like the same [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► thing is it but now they had to make all [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► the overhangs bigger and make everything [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► wide around like you can't make almost [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► concept cars look amazing [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► none of them would pass the US safety [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► that standards and it impacts styling it [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► impacts how you can make a real car [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► looks like a concept car not because of [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► you know materials or anything all [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► documents is because of styling you just [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► you just have to put these bloated puffy [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► things all around it because it's not [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► tenable to make a car that looks like [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► you know what you want from concept cars [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► is not a lot of space around the wheels [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► in the wheel wells not very long [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► overhangs very low slung you know all [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► sorts of things that are terrible for [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► safety but look really cool help [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► well it's not why the the kidneys on the [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► BMW are no longer touch the hood [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► I thought that was the case because the [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► kidneys on my car in the onion nineties [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► there they stay put when you open the [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► hood in it and for the longest time as [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► far as I was aware when you raise the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► hood the kidneys one with them when i [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► went with the hood on BMWs and I thought [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► that was because of pedestrian safety [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► that that changed in later you might [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► because they're like especially cars [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► designed for the European market have to [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► do a lot more pedestrian safety than we [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► have in the US and any and you can see [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► this with almost all of the recent [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► designs from BMW and audi and mercedes [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► you can see how the Mercedes never [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► really had this problem because their [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► cars are always big boxes on the front [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► there they're still trying to soften [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► their their previous styling but like [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► cars that used to have more angular [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► pointy fronts those can't exist anymore [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► really because of the pedestrian safety [TS]