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00:00:11 ◼   ► no takers there we go alright if I [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► waited long enough that's enough of the [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► start i had so brief some brief [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► follow-up on octane ratings [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► I i learned more than I thought I wanted [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► to but octane ratings because I got [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► stuck on Wikipedia but we mentioned John [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► you had mentioned last episode of the [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► one before i forget which about why you [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► like condo so much and and one of the [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► things that we talked about briefly was [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► that that you know honda has kept to [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► maintaining the requirement for minimum [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► like 87 octane gas and where there's a [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► lot of higher-end cars will require [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► premium for the higher compression and [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► we have a few notes on this one thing i [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► found interesting was at first I started [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► hearing about how how the octane ratings [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► in Europe or way higher that like and in [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► australia i think too that we heard that [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► that that like regular there was like 91 [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► octane and and you get like 95 and at [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► first I assumed that this was just the [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► u.s. having crappy your standards and [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► everybody else which is a fairly common [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► thing but but one thing that I later [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► learned with Wikipedia research is that [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► octane ratings are measured differently [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► depending on where you are and the u.s. [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► is method as the achy aki and then it [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► some other people use like the M [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► something and they are something Ron and [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► mana think anyway if you look at the [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► wikipedia page for octane and explains [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► all of this and so you can't directly [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► compared to random numbers you hear from [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► different countries necessarily because [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► they might be on different scales and IH [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► it's worth pointing out in case anyone [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► in our audience does not know this yet [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► it is a very very common misconception [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► that you should use higher octane rating [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► fuel than what your car calls for [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► because that will somehow lead to higher [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► economy or [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► better performance of your engine [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► neither of those are true and you should [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► definitely not waste your money getting [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► higher octane than what your car calls [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► for although the opposite is sometimes [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► true there was a piece of follow-up that [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► I don't have in front of me in which [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► somebody had said something along the [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► lines of hey you know I don't think you [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► need to use 91-93 or whatever octane [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► that I typically put in my car and so [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► when digging through the owners manual [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► because i'm a nerd like that in a and I [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► don't have that in front of me either [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► because we are the worst prepared host [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► ever [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► or I am anyway but take another one hint [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► in the owners manual it said something [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► to the effect of hey we really really [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► really recommend premium which I believe [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► they defined as 91 octane but if you so [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► choose [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► you can make it you can you can make it [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► happen with mid-range and it's not [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► advised but you can definitely do it and [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► I I didn't even know that was an option [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► and I'm probably never going to use it [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► but it's good to know it's possible [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► well part one thing I also write about [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► apparently anyway so some some [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► foundation first most modern cars i [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► think maybe all modern cars have knock [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► sensor so so the that the basics of this [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► please email Casey with the details on [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► what I'm getting wrong the basics of [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► this is that you know the compression [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► stroke of the piston Isaac as it [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► compresses the fuel/air mixture upwards [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► into a really small high-pressure blob [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► so it can detonate it and and get like a [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► nice big power stroke on the way down [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► from the explosion if you use to love an [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► octane then the fuel/air mixture might [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► spontaneously combust just from the [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► pressure earlier that when the piston is [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► all the way up which pushes the piston [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► it for it [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► the explosion then forces at downwards [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► when the Pistons trying to push upwards [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► like right at the peak of its power so [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► it's really a huge counterforce to what [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► the engines trying to do and it makes a [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► knocking sound which is why it's called [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► a knock and so if this happens a lot [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► it's putting a lot of forces and [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► pressures on the engine in a way in in [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► like the opposite ways it's meant to [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► take them so it's really it can be very [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► bad for the engine and can really wear [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► down the engine very [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► quickly and caused lots of severe [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► expensive problems so to avoid this what [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► a lot of modern engines do is they have [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► a knock sensor which if one of those [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► premature combustion happens from using [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► too low octane fuel it adjusts the [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► engine timing or whatever variables it [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► adjusts so that it doesn't compress it [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► as much so that kind of adapts to lower [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► octane fuel to even within some rings of [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► you know what it can you know how low it [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► can compress the fuel then the problem [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► there though is that you then then you [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► do reduce your performance and your [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► economy when that's happening so modern [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► cars if you put too low octane fuel in [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► them will usually be okay well usually [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► avoid most knocking because they'll send [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► the first few and then adjust themselves [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► but you're not really doing yourself [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► your car any favors by doing that on a [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► regular basis now it's a take issue with [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► something you said I think ninety-nine [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► percent of that was completely accurate [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► but and I don't know John if you know [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► the answer one way or another but my [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► understanding for the for many many [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► years is that the powerstroke a [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► four-stroke is indeed an explosion and I [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► remember who was it that said it to me [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► but if I right holding like exploding it [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► and igniting it and write it is not in [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► the ocean it's actually just ignition or [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► eight it's in igniting that air fuel mix [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► and the explosion thing is a misnomer [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► that i believe for most of my life John [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► you happen to know one with I was going [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► to make a comment when the Marco said [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► detonation I said but we're going to [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► email about that but you beat you be at [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► the Atlantic emailers to it right let's [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► go find a real can follow we had a NOC [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► is an explosion right like that with the [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► premature detonate i believe i believe [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► that went like the NOC happening i [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► believe that is an explosion and then [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► but normally when the fuel gets lit [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► normally that's that's an ignition is [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► that right i think so it's not how [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► Dieselworks is just hyper compresses to [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► the point is it eventually itself [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► ignites the diesels don't have spark [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► plugs they don't they don't like it they [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► described as it which is really quite [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► elegant it really makes a lot of sense [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► why that would be a good idea to try [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► that man where this this is exactly the [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► kind of discussion that makes those like [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► handful of angry people on Twitter [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► saying like [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► these guys don't know what they're [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► talking about and they're right [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► like most of our most of our fans well I [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► guess by definition by being fans most [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► of our fans seem fairly happy with us or [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► at least in different but there's like a [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► handful of people who are so angry that [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► we don't know everything that we talked [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► about and even even if we say you know [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► i'm not sure if this is how it works [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► when we kind of ruminate audibly during [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► the podcast they will still get angry at [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► that just because we we haven't prepared [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► every single thing we're going to say in [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► advance and then hell maybe John has I [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► don't know the comedy that is right at [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► the top of neutrals website and from the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► very beginning it's always been and i [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► quote a casual carpod cast with the [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► emphasis on casual and man do we get [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► some worked up people emailing us it's [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► funny [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► oh yeah and and from the beginning like [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► like when i wrote that little [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► description of their I i put the word [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► casual everywhere I put it there i put [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► in the itunes description i even put it [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► like when I link to the episodes from my [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► sight i say this is the latest episode [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► of our casual carpod cast look I say [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► everywhere just to appropriately set [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► expectations that like we are not [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► researching everything we say before and [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► we agree we research some of it but we [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► don't know everything we're going to say [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► beforehand so you know this is part of [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► this is mostly off-the-cuff you know [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► like I just have like an outline of what [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► I'm going to say with a few . might have [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► researched but not like you know every [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► statement and I've I see you guys are [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► similar except John but you know I even [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► then they're like it no matter how you [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► set the expectation there's going to be [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► people who who just gets so comically [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► angry i mean i think we make it fairly [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► clear that we're not taking ourselves [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► too incredibly seriously here and yet we [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► still get people who who just assume it [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► is and the funny thing is it isn't that [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► many people if it was a whole ton of [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► people who just be depressing [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► it's like for people it's very true but [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► man are they angry about it is picking [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► so a little bit of real-time follow up [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► while you were talking I was able to [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► find the the section in the owners [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► manual you are into know i was listening [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► and you're absolutely right i was [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► listening in to green and nodding [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► because everyone can see me nodding [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► super premium gasoline / aki [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► 91 this gasoline is highly recommended [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► however you may use gasoline with less [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► aki the middle making minimum aki rating [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► is for the 323 2887 for the three 3589 [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► if you use gasoline with this minimum [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► aki rating the engine may produce [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► knocking sounds when starting at a high [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► outside temperatures but here's the [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► interesting part and i quote this has no [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► effect on the engine life [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► presumably that's because the knock [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► sensor takes over and write and write [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► you know reduces everything so yeah I I [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► don't know it is so like you know I i [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► think what that's saying is you can get [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► away with it but you know the the [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► implication with the first part of it [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► you know we strongly recommend that like [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► yes you can get away with that however [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► if you care at all about your car's [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► economy or performance you can really [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► give it the kind of gas that's tuned for [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► right and in to make things worse the [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► next section which i'm not going to read [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► because it's relatively long is entitled [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► use high quality brands [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► ok I'm sorry he's high quality Bruins [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► thank you there you go [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► which apparently is a lecture about how [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► you can't use kroger gasps and instead [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► you have to use like shell and exxon and [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► stuff like that but you know I i would [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► actually that that's a topic we should [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► research for a future episode because [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► i've heard mixed things about that i've [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► heard from effort sometimes that the [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► quality of gas you get really matters I [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► for other times that that most chaste [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► that you've got is also pretty much the [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► same or or you know they're all buying [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► it from the same sections of the [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► pipelines and everything like there's [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► some there's probably some middle ground [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► it's actually truth so we should [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► research that so let's put on that magic [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► list that we have to start keeping us at [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► the grocery store haven't been to Ohio [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► man I driving through it [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► ok yeah side roads gas tanks in Ohio I [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► mean you can get everywhere in Ojai make [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► any sense of krogers the best and [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► actually if I'm completely honest and [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► this is so i'm gonna get so much email [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► for this but so I by this a relatively [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► expensive car if not absurdly expensive [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► car and then I specifically choose shell [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► to fuel it in and a specific shell at [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► that because they honor my kroger plus [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► points and [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► after i spend like a hundred bucks at [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► kroger i get 10 saw ten cents a gallon [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► off on gas so it's it's completely [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► ridiculous but that's where i go because [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► shale gas is good and I get a discount [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► I just go to get my town has has a two [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► full-service gas stations that are just [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► like like the small mom-and-pop you I [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► yeah full services is common in [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► something like the smaller towns and [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► suburbs here so it's it's like you know [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► like to gas pumps and a garage but [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► that's the kind of gas station and the [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► dealer is a full-service you mean that [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► they they have mechanics you mean they [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► actually pump the fuel for you because [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► you're in [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► also it's like you're in jersey in your [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► own apt will know it's like you don't [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► want to get your hands not like gasps [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► hand you don't have full service gas [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► stations near you i don't know i don't i [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► can't think of any except when I when we [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► drive up to see mom and dad and we [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► stopped the Jersey Turnpike in the snow [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► crazy thing is ridiculous but you know [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► it's something that they have in New [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► York and they have them here and you [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► know it's not like your jersey that [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► there's mostly self but there's at least [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► one side that's full and it's great to [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► sit in my car listening hours during or [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► one of you guys talking and formerly [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► yelling at me usually about how much [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► needs our podcast and and somebody else [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► is out there getting their hands on like [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► the gas pump [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► I never go to full source willingly ever [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► yeah I can't imagine why I would not try [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► it out guys you'll see first I gotta [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► find one man that don't even know to [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► make it this you've turned my world [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► upside down marker one thing i'm going [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► back to octane for a second i was [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► wondering and i'm curious to know if you [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► guys have any examples this or if I look [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► if our listeners do so you know as we [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► were saying there is no reason to buy [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► higher octane fuel than what your car [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► recommends because it's not going to [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► make any better use of it is not going [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► to increase its compression and get more [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► power and more fuel economy you know [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► it's it is tuned for the first specific [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► thing and it will only do that or lower [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► generally but I've never seen a car that [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► required 89 I've only ever seen cars [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► require 91 or 87 in the US and i'm [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► curious is there a purpose for 89 other [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► than [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► to just get more money out of people [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► like people whose cars require 87 but [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► using you know price anchoring and I'm [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► like well you can get the crappy gasps a [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► cheapo gas or you can get the plus or [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► you can get the premium as well I don't [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► need the premium it's too expensive i'll [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► get the plus and feel a little bit [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► better about myself like is there [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► obviously that's the cynical view of 189 [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► existing so widely available in the u.s. [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► is there any other reason we do any cars [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► say we need 89 or greater [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► maybe there was once i mean i don't see [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► any night around where i am i just have [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► 87 91-93 and I haven't seen 89 and [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► forever so maybe at one point there were [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► cars like that but not anymore [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► what I feel like they're with their have [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► been cars like that i can't figure out [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► for top my head which they were but I [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► mean I guess you could also use 89 like [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► i was reading a moment ago if you're too [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► cheap for 91 but you're too cheap to put [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► 91 your BMW so I guess there's that i [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► don't know but i would imagine that at [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► some point or another some car has [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► required but darned if I know what and [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► you can email Marco the life God we got [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► a great question a few weeks ago that i [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► wanna i want to discuss its from Paul [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► Springer's and and he said what are to [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► each of you personally the most [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► important car equipment options and the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► least important or most ridiculous [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► options that's really just think that [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► was the number one thing on my while the [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► number two thing on my list in the [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► number one to follow that I also wanted [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► to a feedback that i also want to cover [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► that is a great question [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► it is weird because there's especially [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► now that there are so many options [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► especially when she was like you know [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► crazy German luxury cars but even even [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► in like you know mainstream cars there [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► are just so many add-ons and options [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► that you can get now and so many of them [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► are awesome and so many of them are [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► total ripoff it should let me go first [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► yeah Marco wants every option in the [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► universal I'm gonna last because he's [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► gonna say the one I don't get is the [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► quadruple metallic paint but everything [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► else is good that's actually pretty much [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► yes oh go on [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► oh yeah I thought maybe not the easy [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► number one option that you should never [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► ever get in a car if you could possibly [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► help it is the stupid in-car navigation [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► system because they're all super duper [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► terror [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► bolt and the one that's on your [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► two-hundred-dollar phone with contract [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► will be better even even a dedicated gps [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► things that are being driven out of the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► market by smartphones even those are [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► better the gps is in cars are just awful [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► the only time they had a brief moment in [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► the Sun when that was one of the few [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► places you could get a GPS and [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► standalone marketing head come up and [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► source with no smartphones maybe then [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► you and it's one hour days like they [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► charge like $2,000 extra for you to get [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► a terrible GPS in your car [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► unfortunately you can't opt out of that [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► on a lot of the higher-end models but it [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► is one place that I would like to you [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► know please give me that money back i [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► would say do not spend two thousand [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► dollars for in-car navigation because [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► that is a ripoff and you will get a [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► terrible product and all you end up [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► doing is duct taping your iphone right [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► on top of these the in-car navigation AI [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► couldn't disagree more [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► alright you'll have your turn your turn [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► will do item by item or person by person [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► i'm just gonna be good but obviously i [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► don't have that many items always go [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► through the people that you made [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► everything right no option [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► brakes are optional steering is optional [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► yeah I don't need a right right here [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► he'll get the app this isn't even an [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► option anymore seat suit just in case it [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► is like get the air-conditioning [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► what is that optional on cars these days [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► I suppose it might still be somewhere [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► I'm sure there are cars somewhere that [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► is optional but i think it's probably a [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► pretty rare occurrence especially in [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► anywhere that's going to listen to [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► podcast yeah so get the air conditioning [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► because he's never options and just [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► makes heat like well . is this for free [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► let's see and then if he was optional [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► would you would you could you consider [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► not getting it no I mean I you have to [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► get other thing it's not it's not [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► costing new habit you as you have you [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► not optional anywhere [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► I don't think of anything else that have [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► really strong feelings that i would say [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► don't get a satellite radio 2 for the [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► SIP same reason that like you know my [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► radio is no good don't like don't give [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► the money for electronics because they [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► charge way too much for it you can get [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► better solutions either aftermarket or [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► non-automotive you know so [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► non-automotive is using your iphone for [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► navigation and aftermarket is like [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► buying aftermarket stereo instead of [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► paying more for the the system that had [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► built in [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► everything else I say you could take or [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► leave on maybe don't get the sunroof [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► because of headroom like if you like [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► leather seats get all the seats if you [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► don't like leather seats don't get let's [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► get that kind of noise when you can't [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► avoid leather seats you know we all like [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► options we don't want to be forced into [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► anything but it's like cable television [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► they patched things up so if you [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► well you want leather seats then you [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► have together thing with navigation and [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► that's only available in the v6 and blah [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► blah you know you know the whole deal [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► but other than that I said there's no [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► there's no options that i would say you [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► must have even things like you know [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► cruise control and stuff like that like [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► I suppose if you do lots of long trips [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► get it but if you never go on the [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► highway crews controls meaningless for [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► you you know so every single item I [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► think you just take it on its merits [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► inside what you want or not inevitably [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► no matter what you what you pick you [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► will be forced into a package that has [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► more stuff than you want but navigation [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► is by far my least favorite may I go [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► absolutely no I feel like I'm gonna be [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► the middle of the road here John is [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► completely wrong about navigation and [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► let me tell you why you're actually [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► right all kidding aside about the [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► navigation piece of navigation but [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► you're wrong about what oftentimes comes [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► with navigation when I got the BMW I was [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► not seeking a car with navigation and it [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► just so happened that the 1i found had [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► navigation and as well as the other more [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► important options that will talk about [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► here in second [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► that being said the thing that I really [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► love about the navigation is the [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► entertainment or infotainment crap that [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► comes with it and by that i mean the car [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► has like a 10 or 15 gig hard drive [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► sitting I think in the passenger [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► footwell that lets me load mp3's onto it [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► and so now it rather than shuffling [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► through a bunch of cds which by the way [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► the car doesn't have a CD changer which [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► would bother me if I didn't have the [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► infotainment stuff but anyway we hang [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► out again [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► I know this is your turn but i have to [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► enter as one that's what you still use [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► cds in the car [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► well I don't understand that their CD [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► changer even I hope you're not using [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► those as well and some pretty sure that [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► my it might my 328 system i think has [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► like one of those in-dash multi-disc [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► things but I don't even know whether it [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► does i just has a slot that I've never [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► put a CD into so that's a very fair [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► question the reason I use cds up until [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► just a few months ago was because the [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► subaru was just barely old enough not to [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► have an auxiliary input of any kind [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► FM transmitters sock sale would have a [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► setback [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► no no errands car has has cassette deck [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► and the comedy that is when we got the [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► car we like maybe he'll need a cassette [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► deck then fast-forward two or three [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► years whenever one really had ipods and [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► iphones and things of that nature and [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► suddenly the cassette deck is the best [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► feature in the interview and cause if [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► you're gonna try to get audio from an [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► ipod or phone into a car that doesn't [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► have an oxygen Jack the cassette deck is [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► way better than a transmitter now it is [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► by far the better option [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► your father will be disappointed in you [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► case it was like on my to Accords I got [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► one 2004 I think you got totaled about [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► 2007 neither one of those hawks in [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► because it was like it was like the [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► generation before they all got oxygen [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► but after they all have all the tape [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► decks were gone [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► I'm boring those cars I bought [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► aftermarket kits to get an aux-in and [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► disassemble the whole dashboard and pull [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► out the radio and you know put in myself [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► because there was no way I was going to [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► use an FM transmitter and it has an [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► in-dash CD changer but i'm gonna use [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► that either so I I just probably a way [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► for you to get an auction just going to [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► go aftermarket I maximum is even do that [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► myself and I i looked up online people [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► have posted a picture of the bottom of [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► its of the circuit board of this crazy [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► stereo had and if you like soccer on a [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► couple of terminals to this one spot [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► then you could have an oxygen so I I [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► literally took my dash apart and drilled [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► two holes and put RCA jacks my tags left [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► right and and had an oxygen from my from [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► I'm crazy maxima I mean and it was [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► totally worth it even had a cassette [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► deck [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► I just wanted that direct line yeah and [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► and John actually looked into doing on [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► the subaru and I to be fair I did not [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► look into it deeply because the subaru [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► was new enough that this was starting to [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► be the time when hvac controls and radio [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► were all one big gigantic unit rather [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► than having like a dinner double din [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► radio that rise rip hours know like [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► dedicated radio they exactly exactly and [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► i believe the way in which people got an [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► aux-in into that radio was ridiculous [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► and it was I think the road on the [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► antenna line so it was it was kinda like [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► em transmission accept that you are [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► directly connected to the line the [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► antenna ran off of or something like [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► that it was and it was impossible to do [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► and to rip out the entire dash diet [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► wanted nothing to do with it so to come [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► back to the to the options thing so I i [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► agree that nav actually is kind of [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► useless although it is nice to have it [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► in the car [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► it's certainly not as nice as having a [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► phone that can do it or even a dedicated [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► yell at me and go ahead finish but the [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► infotainment stuff like being able to [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► put music into the car bluetooth audio [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► streaming is the coolest freakin thing [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► in the world I adore it and and what's [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► really nice about bluetooth is you don't [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► have to take your phone out of your [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► pocket and that's really really cool as [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► well especially as combined with comfort [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► access which is BMWs proximity key thing [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► another thing that I didn't expect to [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► get on the BMW but i did and i freaking [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► love it and then it occurred to me [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► recently in talking with a co-worker who [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► ms lady that it's even cooler if you're [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► if you're if you're a woman because [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► presumably unlike men you don't have [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► your keys in your pocket your they're [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► buried somewhere in the bottom of your [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► purse and so you never have to fiddle [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► with your keys in order to get into her [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► out of the car start the car or anything [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► like that and so that that's something [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► that now that I haven't been ruined for [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► life wait why don't want to have kids in [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► their pockets because they're in their [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► purses why because that's where persons [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► are for John you really am I had a [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► person I could be in there no question I [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► hate hotels in assets [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► plus it's worth pointing out a lot of a [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► lot of common with women's clothing [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► types don't have pockets but man we [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► should really stop talking about this [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► before this is because we're going to [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► our also entitled clothes don't have [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► pockets i will dresses for one some a [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► lot of pants like business pants [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► sometimes like they won't have pockets [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► I'm hands with no pockets a world gone [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► mad or they're so tight fitting that you [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► it would be in your pants would be [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► boldness yeah we gotta stop that is so [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► and i'm going to work so or I i happen [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► to be i happen to be a leather person i [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► understand that some are not happen to [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► be a sunroof person I understand some or [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► not I very much like being married and I [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► very much be like being married to Aaron [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► and we don't tend to have the same body [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► temperatures so dual-zone climate [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► control is the best thing ever [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► heated seats even though I live in [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► Virginia happen to be one of my favorite [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► things in the world and so I happen to [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► think that's a must have [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► one thing i did miss on the subaru and i [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► am very glad to have them BMWs fold down [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► rear seats so the rare occasions that [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► you know the answer port something [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► that's bigger than 45 feet long [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► then I spent that first option is like [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► if you can't have it because it's like a [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► hybrid that's where the batteries are [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► like you can't get it as an option [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► I've never seen a car where you can get [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► it but it's an option actually like BMW [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► usually especially i think that i think [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► in the hole 3 series is an option [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► yeah supposedly just to get a couple [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► more you know a couple hundred why would [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► they not give that it's just it doesn't [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► make any sense that they would it's [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► really would cost more to make two [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► versions of the backseat [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► I think of you when you go to a lot and [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► look at what they have like I've never [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► seen one in stock anywhere that didn't [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► have it but it is technically an option [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► that's the trick to pull toyota is is [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► the master of ripping people off with [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► that kind of trick we're like they'll [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► advertise a minimum price for the car [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► and then you go to the dealers and you [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► can find you can't find any of them that [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► have that price they all have all these [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► option packages on them which they don't [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► publish the prices for as far as i know [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► and they didn't last time i looked at [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► toyota's and so like all your research [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► is ruined because you were researching [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► the base price and nothing there has the [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► base configuration it's like formats I [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► mean that was used to be the old one on [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► the cheap cars that like that nothing [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► comes with formats like it anyways I got [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► a gentleman's agreement amongst all you [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► know a low price car vendors no no one's [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► going to include the format's that floor [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► mats are always extra and they're always [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► like 200 don't get the most expensive [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► squares of carpet you've ever seen in [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► your entire life i had to buy formats [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► from ebay for the 1m like when I got it [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► and I just assume that like the guy who [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► wanted before me was just you know he [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► just lost them are or something you know [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► before he gave the card of this dealer [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► I've never seen like a car this decade [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► or the last decade for that matter that [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► didn't come formats and then everyone [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► just buys them that's what like they [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► don't know none of them came with them [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► but you would buy them in i bought them [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► and for my cars because what am I going [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► to a carbonyl formats right able you [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► know it looked at you know if it has [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► like those big like velcro dismounts [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► like it has all amounts of the formats [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► to stick on so it looks terrible without [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► them even if you could somehow justify [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► the the dirt issues it's like it's just [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► it seems so weird that you would sell a [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► car without formats and that you would [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► buy a car without formats so yeah I had [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► to let go spend [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► hundred bucks on ebay to get formats for [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► this crazy sports car that somehow [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► didn't come with them [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► yeah that is pretty violently so I'm [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► almost done with my list here so heated [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► seats fold down rear seats at the there [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► are two options that I well one of them [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► is actually becoming required that's [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► dynamic Stability control and everyone [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► has a different name for it but that [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► breaks the laws of physics it's insane [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► actually I think the owners manual it [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► literally says it can't break the laws [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► of physics but it is far as I'm [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► concerned it will make your car not do [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► things that shouldn't do no matter how [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► stupid and and ham fisted you are and so [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► if it was an option I would definitely [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► ticket and then John earlier I believe [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► you met made mention of you know you [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► would say don't don't do anything [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► electronic but the Harman Kardon sound [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► in my car is one of the best stories [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► I've ever heard [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► now maybe i'm just telling myself to [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► believe that but it really is i'm sure [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► it sounds better than the stock radio [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► but the question is does it sound better [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► than the equivalent radio you could've [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► bought with that same money because they [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► always over charge you for the fancy [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► radio like goin for actually twelve [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► hundred dollars you know what kind of [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► aftermarket stereo you can get for [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► twelve hundred dollars you get a pretty [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► darn good one [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► yeah but it would be would not look [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► right as steeply only that's i getcha [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► well exactly and also one thing i will [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► say about the nav in in favor of having [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► nav and I can't speak for other [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► manufacturers but one of the very cool [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► things about the BMW's nav is that when [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► you have BMW Assist which is there [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► onstar knockoff you can actually get on [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► google maps find an address and have [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► google maps send it to your car so that [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► the moment you get in the car you you [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► look at whatever messages have come in [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► since the last time you got in your car [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► and it's sitting right in the address is [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► sitting right there ready to go ready to [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► be enter ready already entered ready to [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► be used in granted you know if you're [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► doing this on your phone then you're not [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► really gaining anything but i do think [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► that is a pretty cool use making the [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► Incarnate better than it otherwise could [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► have been the test does that all inside [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► the same car because you go to the giant [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► touchpad [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► google maps and you find your [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► destination but the giant others and has [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► no idea how did navigation so you press [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► a button and it sends it from the google [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► maps thing you to the in-car navigation [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► which is a Garmin unit this was like a [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► little miniature close-up heard there [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► are three feet away from each other but [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► it's too yeah that's like a version 1.1 [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► yeah and actually that reminds me that [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► my dad's jeep he got a Wrangler honor [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► maybe six months or a year ago and it [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► actually has if i'm not mistaken a [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► garmin nav system its garmin software in [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► the onboard jeep nav so that I actually [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► really like a lot because it's the exact [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► same software you find a standalone [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► Garmin unit but it's part of the inn in [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► car unit then finally the only other [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► thing that I don't think I've mentioned [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► that I that I would absolutely recommend [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► is xenon headlamps if at all possible [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► the difference between xenons and [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► incandescent bulbs is stupid terrible [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► pun but night and day I mean did [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► especially in the bi-xenon the BMW when [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► I have my brights on it could it might [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► as well be freaking daytime it's [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► absolutely ridiculous that leds now [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► Casey you're so vexed or not it's true [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► you're right well just some sort of high [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► tide just wasn't our discharge wouldn't [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► know i was just reading about [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► high-intensity discharge HID yeah yeah [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► yeah i was turning about the new [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► Mercedes s-class upcoming s-class that [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► has expunged incandescent bulbs and [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► xenon bulbs and halogen everything from [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► at the entire car interior exterior turn [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► signals everything everything is led on [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► the upcoming as class when didn't i see [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► that the Volvo has come out with like [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► all high beams that are always on and [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► they'll automatically like to take away [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► the high beam everything we might have [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► been mistreating about the s-class [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► that's the same thing you know is it [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► basically it has this is a light shields [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► that adjusted depending on this oncoming [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► traffic and like right and everything is [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► dynamic the tail lights behind you [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► adjust the brightness based on the [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► proximity of the car behind you so you [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► don't blind person stuck behind you and [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► traffic ahead along things going on and [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► I think all the luxury brands for a few [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► years now . like the automatic bright [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► swear it like it'll it'll look ahead and [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► and it'll keep your brights on most time [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► then it will dim them or real this away [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► from people as they come on this is [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► different this is like a like a little [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► actuator that shaping the light output [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► so yes it would knocks out certain [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► regions of the light [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► because the light is made up of lots of [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► tiny little LEDs maybe just turns off or [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► whatever like it's it's it's making the [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► output of the light silhouette that [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► matches the area that you want to go on [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► instead of instead of taking a light [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► that just makes a bright light and [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► aiming in different directions or [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► something like that [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► ok but yeah that was my list [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► I'm done man I don't know what options [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► don't you like my they'll be easier as [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► well are well first of all I i should [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► say the point that I disagree with you [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► guys on first I really like a sunroof I [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► i know that you know Casey I think [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► you're indifferent John you don't like [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► for the 10 libraries and I agree I agree [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► it does make sense [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► like if you like John you usually have [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► headroom issues because you're tall and [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► you by short cars so so i guess it would [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► make sense i'm all cars i guess it would [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► make sense in that in that case but I [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► think as long as that's not your issue i [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► love us on earth because the air pattern [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► that you get when you just open the [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► sunroof and not any of the windows to me [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► like i love doing that when it's cold [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► outside like it you know it when it's [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► like in the forties like it's not it's [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► not warm enough to really have all the [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► windows open but you still like some [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► fresh air [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► you can open the sunroof and like you [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► know blast the heat on your feet and [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► leave the sunroof open to me like i like [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► that combination i also just really like [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► the light that comes in like out i'll [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► leave it i'll leave a little shade open [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► all the time even when this one even [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► when the glass is closed [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► just because I like the openness that [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► you get from the additional light so I i [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► love a sunroof and I really i I've [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► missed it when the rocket because the [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► rocket doesn't have that I'm and in my [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► 328 it's always I always have it open [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► I could not agree more i should have [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► mentioned that in the be in the excuse [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► me the super didn't have it because it [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► was a package like both you guys are [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► talking about and if memory serves a [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► package was a sunroof and leather and [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► something else which i can't remember [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► off the top of my head but it was those [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► are things power seats sunroof leather [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► power seats was three thousand dollars [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► and I just couldn't swing it just was [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► stupid but I could not agree more i [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► absolutely love you don't worry had [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► leaks because is marcos changing up his [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► cars every three years they never get [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► but the one sunroof car [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► we had my family the summer flaked [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► really i mean we have a 94 camry that [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► had a sunroof that my mom just got rid [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► of like two years ago and it never [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► leaked yes I'm here anyways I've never [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► heard of somebody something sleek maybe [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► it maybe it's your roof appellate issue [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► that's true now this is not our car that [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► we on this is my mother's a nissan 240z [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► I mean there's an old car obviously but [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► as I understand it was lucky [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► anyway let's see i have going through [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► your list i'm a big fan of the park [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► distance beepers very everyone calls [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► these things different things going to [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► call that Park distance control PDC some [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► people call it parkassist it's it's a [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► little like I don't know if they're like [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► short-range radar or infrared or what [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► these little sensors and the bumpers [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► that sense of distance the cars are for [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► in front of behind you and beep as you [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► get closer to them I parallel park all [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► the time that should be the way the [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► place i live at us to parallel park in [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► various places and if you ever parallel [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► park having those park distance beepers [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► is awesome and and so with this car [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► we couldn't get them there what we we [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► were ordering tix car it's the lexus the [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► is which doesn't have a fold-down rear [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► seat which drives crazy and sucks and it [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► wasn't even an option and there's no [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► reason for that not to be an option on [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► that car [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► I don't know why they did that alexis is [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► weird about their fold down rear seats [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► they don't really I don't think any of [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► their sedans have them i think it's only [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► the SUV's because bizarre anyway uh so [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► tips car has a backup camera [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► we're just shows the imagine the [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► navigation screen and and both of my [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► stomach section section s both of my BMW [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► if you are year duh but anyway [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► hey they both have just the beepers and [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► and not the camera and wait is that true [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► is the rocket yet yet yet even has a [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► camera and I find the beepers to be way [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► more useful than the camera because II [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► like you can be looking backwards as [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► you're backing up you can be looking [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► backwards and still get that feeling [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► back from that system now ideally if you [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► can have both shuriken both but if you [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► have to pick one or the other like tips [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► car has just the camera [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► my car has just the beeper and we both [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► agree that the beeper is the way better [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► option [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► I question would you if available and [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► take the option box for automatic [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► parallel parking mode where you just [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► take your hands off the wheel foot off [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► everything and it does it for you [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► you know I've never I've never actually [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► seen that in person or better car that [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► has that if you're if it works [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► especially well and if we could get into [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► a really tight spot that I'm that might [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► be challenging to do on my own then [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► maybe but i'm pretty good at like [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► generally if you have to parallel park [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► on a regular basis you you get pretty [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► good at it so I don't really need that [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► and i'm not i'm not really it wouldn't [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► provide that much value to me so like if [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► i had to pay extra for just that feature [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► i wouldn't get it but if it was part of [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► some package i was getting maybe I get [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► it then you know that's a part of the [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► technology package right exactly but yet [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► the park distance beepers i love those [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► things i highly recommend if you ever [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► parallel park and if you have a car [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► without an option get it [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► it is totally worth it and one small car [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► get to that is that some cars only offer [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► it on the rear or only on the front [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► I don't know why maybe it's like a [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► bumper design limitation [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► yeah or something a lot of cars will [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► offer only on one of those two and and [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► including the 1m I don't have it on the [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► rear my car [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► really with the m sport bumper is that [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► one that's why it's because the m sport [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► bumper now to my I there's physically [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► enough room for the sensors but on the m [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► sport 33 35 time on the export 3-series [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► is they do not have a front Park [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► distance control although i believe the [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► m3 did that's what mine certainly does [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► not yet its very own anyway so it when [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► you only have it on one it's nice a [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► little bit but it really helps to have [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► it on both because that was what you [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► what you can do with this like for me I [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► always think my car is way bigger than [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► our day is like front and back so I like [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► all back into a spot and think i have [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► almost no space at all and then get out [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► and look I have way more space and I [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► thought it [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► as a result i will pass up on spots that [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► I could fit in but i don't think i could [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► fit in with the park distance control [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► you can get so close without knowing [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► you're gonna hit your car [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► I think you can get so close that you [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► can get yourself into smaller spots [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► without that paranoia of my god I'm [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► gonna hit everything constantly yeah and [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► what's interesting about the BMW's with [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► navigation is that when the when the [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► cars in Reverse I actually see the kind [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► of overhead view of my car and then kind [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► of like a graph it's very hard to [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► describe but it's it's a visual [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► representation of what it thinks is [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► behind me based on i think it is [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► short-range radar based on the radar [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► coming off the rear bumper and so i can [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► see that on the left side specifically [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► you know a third of the way into the car [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► there's some sort of obstruction that [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► are really close to yeah it's really not [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► as nice yeah it's not as nice as a [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► camera for sure but but it's certainly [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► as good as you get without having a [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► camera was really like I the can i [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► really don't get the camera thing [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► because when i'm backing up and i'm [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► turning my head behind me so I can't see [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► the screen and so let's try keep looking [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► back and forth if you want to actually [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► make use of the camera to keep looking [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► back and forth between the screen and [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► the rear windshield or you can just look [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► at the rear windshield which is what I [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► think me and most people have just [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► probably just end up doing in which case [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► the camera's not really serving you know [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► the camera so you can see kids you'll [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► see when Adam starts talking behind your [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► car you can't see him because he's below [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► your deck lid so that's what the cameras [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► right but then what do you like [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► re supposed to just look at the screen [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► the whole time you look at the camera to [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► see that it's clear of kids and then you [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► start backing up any crumbs and I mean [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► like I mean well you're not going to get [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► you back up all time just looking in the [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► camera because it's fish I you can see [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► everything from it I mean you can't [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► write back and forth to but it's [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► basically like it if you have to choose [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► one thing to look at either just the [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► camera or just out the back window [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► the theory is that you should look at [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► the camera because you will not see kids [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► low-to-high exactly especially like a [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► minivan with where the where the cutout [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► for the rear window is so much higher [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► that's gonna be hiding like you know [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► full-size kids not just toddlers right [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► yeah anything it makes more sense on [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► cars where you have very limited rear [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► visibility that you know that obviously [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► makes more sense but even even on acid [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► and I think just just to get the peace [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► of mind that it's okay to start backing [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► you know I mean yeah that'd make what [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► makes sense but anything you just look [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► at once you turn your head [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► well yeah I mean like you want for most [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► of the time it's not going to actually [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► be at all or most of the time it's going [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► to be like you know kids at a bus stop [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► or whatever and once you know it with [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► the it's ok to start moving what's a [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► moving car will you know be more [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► noticeable two children than a kid who [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► is standing right behind it does not [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► notice the car started to move you don't [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► notice until like you feel the lump of [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► the tire going over you know what I mean [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► like right once the things in motion [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► they can catch people's eyes but if if [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► it did you have to like when can I start [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► to move right and then you get you can [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► periodically lands back at it to make [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► sure it's still clear [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► you know i mean i'm also very literally [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► once you start moving if you're looking [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► at the back you'll be able to see the [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► kid running from one side of the other [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► hopefully having a variety of the side [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► you doing the back alright fair enough i [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► would also say one option i like a lot [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► and we're going to have I think a bigger [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► discussion about aftermarket vs stock [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► stuff [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► one thing i like a lot is a steering [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► wheel audio controls at oh my god yes [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► it's like I i had my first car with that [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► was the was the forgettable accord and [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► it's oh man it's even though even though [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► the accord has that giant volume knob in [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► the middle school did I'd probably still [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► doesn't every part is that doesn't [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► anymore but it's it's so nice because [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► your hands are already on the wheel be [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► able to make little volume adjustments [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► from right there changes everything [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► now John is your I know your current car [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► probably doesn't have this would you get [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► that on your new car if it was an option [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► that's not even optional anymore like [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► you know my current cars happened i have [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► the same generation of course that you [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► did and i don't think it's an option [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► like maybe was an option on my old Civic [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► but i think all the cords come with [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► standard was your current one it was an [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► exs right because he said it was like it [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► was a high trim level that you got [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► through the insurance thing it was the [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► s.e special edition [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► I don't know way but it wasn't it's not [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► the v6 but it wasn't the bottom of the [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► line once okay you know but yeah I don't [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► think I don't think you can get into [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► court without considering the bottle of [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► wine one like power windows were [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► optional [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► I don't think they do that anymore yeah [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► now like my heart my 92 $YEAR civic and [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► roll up windows nice yeah i love [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► steering wheel audio controls on 2x [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► stand on the on the heated seats thing [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► first of all heated seats are awesome [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► I i don't think i ever had them with [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► cloth I don't know anybody really offers [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► that because there's not there's a lot [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► less demand for with cloth seats super [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► they do now that's mine has seats and [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► heated seats [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► well anyway with with leather at least i [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► can tell you i heated seats are awesome [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► even even when it's not like 20 degrees [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► outside even when it's 40 degrees [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► outside [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► i still use my use heated seats whenever [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► it's too cold roll the windows down so [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► again with my son of thing [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► sunroof open sea he did see hot feet [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► awesome great combination all you need [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► to do with leather because level you'll [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► freeze your butt off literally if it [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► literally it [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► yes signore but will actually would be [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► removed from your body because it's [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► frozen because there they suck the heat [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► right out of you you know like cloth [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► seats don't do that as much so that's I [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► think that's why the heated seats are [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► rare and cloth seats because you know [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► the closet to make kind of like an air [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► cushion between your butt and the seat [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► that it gives you time to heat up that [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► air and doesn't feel cold wear leather [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► just makes a big contact and yeah it [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► sucks the heat right out of you so you [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► need you definitely don't get leather [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► seats without heat or basically it [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► should be the rule right it's also [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► really nice to to put your hands under [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► your legs with onto a heated seat when [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► you just like brushed all the snow off [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► your car your hands are freezing [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► that is why you have the heated steering [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► wheel right yeah I'm gonna get to that [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► and so is it definitely so I only one of [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► our cars has a heated steering wheel and [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► oh my god it's amazing and it's oh man [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► not a lot of cars have it as an option [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► but if you have that as an option if you [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► live anywhere cold you'd be amazed how [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► nice it is like it i and and it [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► BMW's version of it is actually pretty [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► terrible i mean at least the one of my [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► three series i don't i haven't used any [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► other ones yet but like the the button [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► for it is positioned on the on the side [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► of the wheel icon like the I don't know [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► the shaft whatever it's called its [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► position on the side of that but one of [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► the spokes of the wheel visually blocks [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► you from seeing it when you're driving [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► if you unless you're turning and pretty [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► sharply so if you're driving straight [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► you can't see what [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► the heated steering wheel on or off and [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► so and and there's even like a couple [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► like dead spots like around the [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► perimeter of the wheel we're just not [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► heated like where some of the joints are [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► with the spokes so it doesn't even a [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► very good imitation of this but it's [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► just so nice to have that feature and [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► it's it is incredible they really like [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► when you when you're you know when it's [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► cold and everything in the car is cold [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► every surface you touches cold having [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► the heated seat is a big step up having [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► a heated will just completes its like [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► then you can get in the car without [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► gloves and without any without freezing [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► your hands off and just wrap your hands [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► around that we always just it just feels [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► so nice [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► even if one just like 40 you know it [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► doesn't have your back hold this to be [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► nice it is fantastic [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► I definitely again i would strongly [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► recommend heated wheel let's see a [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► powered seats a lot of people are iffy [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► on this sometimes they're very expensive [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► add on base they do certainly add weight [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► one major awesome feature powered seats [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► if if you have two drivers of your car [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► and you are not identically sized [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► powered seats usually have memories and [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► so you can usually program in like you [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► and your spouse to have two different [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► seat settings and then you can adjust [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► with you know the push of a button you [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► can adjust between the two of you [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► it's also very useful even if you're the [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► only person who drives your car it's [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► nice like if you go if you get like a [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► car wash or if you get car service and [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► somebody else has to sit in your car for [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► a minute and they adjust the seat then [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► as soon as they hit the car back you can [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► push the buttons back to your perfect [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► settings so absolutely know what it is [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► that the people who service and wash and [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► detail your car like how is it that they [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► come to choose the seating and mirror [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► positions and hvac settings that are [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► that exist in your cards when you get [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► into your car like no human would have [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► these combination of attributes they [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► just randomly positioning the seats the [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► mirrors and like the blower's on full [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► and the heat is on minutes but the air [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► conditioning is also on the radio is [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► blaring on some weird station this is [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► pushed all the way back but push forward [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► and the mirrors can't be seen from that [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► position is just as he strikes me is [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► completely random [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► you're absolutely right in the funny [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► thing is you know as [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► as the driver of a car with a clutch i [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► know that i can't properly operate my [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► car it except in a maybe two or three [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► inch depth of mice of the seat so [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► there's like a 23 inch window of good [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► weather and I can operate the clutch [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► properly and almost every time I get in [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► my car and almost every time I get in my [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► car [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► well after it's been serviced the seat [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► is back so John you wouldn't be able to [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► operate the clutch properly so I'm some [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► basically six foot tall and I get in the [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► car and there must be like Shaquille [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► O'Neal head in the service bay servicing [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► this damn thing because it is so far [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► back I don't know how anyone even got it [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► to the parking spot it was in maybe they [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► slapped it lack of memory seats which I [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► wanted memory seats forever but of [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► course i never get a car with power seat [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► so it's not in the cards [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► Amanda and you know because my wife is [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► much shorter than I am and having that [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► happen makes you become skilled in the [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► art of driving stick shift car in [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► awkward positions because frequently I'd [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► like move your car off the driveway or [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► move cars around and I'll go in there [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► and i won't bother i'm not gonna spend [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► the time to adjust the seats and other [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► stuff right all sort of went to my she's [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► got her seat not only way far forward [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► but also cranked up because the universe [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► has the lever to go up and down she [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► short so she cranks you're not in my [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► position [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► yeah and I need to see it all the way [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► down to give me head room but i can get [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► in the car kind of sideways and kind of [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► like like Peter my knees are up on my [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► chin and my legs are sideways in the [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► footwell and I can kind of operate the [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► clutch with like the ball of my left [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► foot while using the shift there with [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► it's just that and knowing how to drive [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► a stick shift car wearing ski boots are [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► the two important skills that I've [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► learned [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► yeah i would recommend that was [TS]

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00:47:55 ◼   ► conquer high heels because apparently [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► that's all you have left John i think [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► steve was probably more difficult [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► because you really get no feel for [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► what's going on or hate them right [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► they're so big I mean it man [TS]

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00:49:49 ◼   ► where should we go to set this up now [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► I'm a computer nerd [TS]

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00:49:53 ◼   ► things and if your computer nerd you [TS]

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00:51:11 ◼   ► clitoris apart about the navigation if [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► you were yes [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► so one more quick thing on syracuse [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► mentioned satellite radio is terrible i [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► do agree i'm a big fan of some satellite [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► radio content however sirius XM is [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► really a pretty rough company in a lot [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► of ways they they're like the kind of [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► company like once you get if you ever [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► subscribe to siriusxm they will spam the [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► crap out of you forever like input [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► you'll get things in the mail every week [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► saying hey we activated your radio for [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► another two hours for free come back to [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► us here's an offer [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► you know one of those companies like [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► where you can never really fully leave [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► their they're just kind of a mess very [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► badly managed company and the audio [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► quality over the air is pretty terrible [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► the internet streaming is ok but the [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► audio the over the air quality sounds [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► like a like an 80 kilobytes per second [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► mp3 it really is is pretty rough [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► that being said i did get the premium [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► upgrade because I do like listening to a [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► few things on satellite radio so I [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► tolerate them and i will agree to harman [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► kardon BMW upgrades is pretty good [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► although the stock one is probably fine [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► to honestly my my radio because i [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► upgraded with the serious as part of [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► package i got HD radio have either of [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► you guys have your interview ever used [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► HD radio hybrid digital not high [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► definition really is that it's not [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► another HD radio i believe does not [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► stand for high-definition it was a [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► trademark issue that they couldn't know [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► i know i think i think it's probably [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► like a truth in advertising because they [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► not giving you you know like technically [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► speaking I think good strong FM radio [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► signal may be just as good as this [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► well it does sound way better on am [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► that's for sure but anyway it's a [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► HD radio so I have it in my 328 it is [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► just completely useless because and [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► maybe a maybe other areas this will be [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► different but where I am you know in the [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► new york metro area the reception for [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► the HD signal cuts out occasionally so [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► the radio conveniently automatically [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► switches back to the FM version or the [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► am version of putting what you're [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► listening to [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► and so as you're driving around you [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► you'll hear it cut back and forth [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► between the two and you know the HD [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► version sounds a little bit better [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► usually but uh it's not worth hearing it [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► cut back and forth it's annoying as hell [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► so i don't i don't recommend HD radio [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► also what you're hearing in better [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► quality is still terrible radio stations [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► you know you're still hearing a million [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► commercials an hour you're still hearing [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► you know that the same 40 songs and [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► rotation with no human djs ever involved [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► anymore or somebody pre-recorded from [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► some other state you know it radios [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► terrible like the whole like broadcast [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► radio industry is just instruct shambles [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► it's so terrible so you're getting a [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► higher quality rendering of a terrible [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► product [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► sometimes it's really not i don't [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► recommend HD radio at all so with the [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► with the m5 they have a whole bunch of [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► crazy technology options but there in [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► like two packages so I got both packages [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► so I'm getting most of the creative [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► technology things one option i didn't [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► get was the bank and all of sudden fancy [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► radio it's 35 hundred dollars extra and [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► it's just an upgraded stereo and they [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► have like all these crazy like there's a [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► center speaker on the dash that like [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► lifts up out of its little hole that [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► sits in when it's often like lift up [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► when you turn the car on and beam sound [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► directly into your ear something it [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► sounds all crazy you know like most bang [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► & olufsen marketing claims I i actually [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► didn't hear excited I couldn't find one [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► of these in a dealer because I I imagine [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► they probably have a hard time selling [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► anything configured with that option but [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► I don't care how good it sounds it could [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► sound amazing [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► it wouldn't be worth 3,500 dollars for [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► me because usually when i'm in the car [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► listening to podcasts [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► I very rarely listen to music in the car [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► so or if I'm listen to music it's on [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► such a short trip like just going into [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► town for the post office and coming back [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► like it's such a short trip that I'm not [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► even really gonna notice the quality [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► that much on long trips where I would [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► notice the quality and pay attention and [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► listen to podcasts which usually no [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► matter how well they're recorded and [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► processed they don't really sound any [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► different on different quality car [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► stereos and have to really matter so I I [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► don't really think paying extra for [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► high-end audiences to make sense for me [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► other people obviously you know your [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► needs will will vary in your priorities [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► will vary but even even though I'm [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► getting this ridiculous car with lots of [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► ridiculous options including like the [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► the trunk opens when you wave your foot [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► under the car like crazy options like [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► that just cuz their abundance the [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► packages but i'm not getting the crazy [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► stereo for thirty-four thirty-five [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► hundred times that's insane i think [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► about what you could do with that $300 [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► it now that you've opted not to do it [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► you can get yourself a really nice [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► television that you would get much more [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► enjoyment out of then i wouldn't even [TS]