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00:00:00   all kidding aside we should probably get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   all that crap where do we want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1">TS</a>]

00:00:02   that was the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   damn it i was hoping not alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07   let's go with oldest first let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/7">TS</a>]

00:00:10   about the laferrari John sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/10">TS</a>]

00:00:13   cod that's what do we think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/13">TS</a>]

00:00:17   name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18   it's terrible so there are we supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   to call it the ferrari laferrari no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/20">TS</a>]

00:00:24   think it's just lost ferrari now why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/24">TS</a>]

00:00:28   it bad why do we not like that name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   it's redundant yes it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33   redundant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   i mean i-i think the reason the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   don't like it is because I guess we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   kind of used two cars having either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   names like after cities in italy or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   least Italian words to sound exotic no i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   mean like maranello or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   testarossa yeah right yeah or having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/49">TS</a>]

00:00:53   kind of a computer nerd e tekky macho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/53">TS</a>]

00:00:59   designations like f40 you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/59">TS</a>]

00:01:04   rumor was this is going to be f70 where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   they have 15 everything was good it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08   the end zone which fine whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   know that founder of the company name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   car after that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   this is going to be f70 but no not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   f70 we get lost ferrari which there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/77">TS</a>]

00:01:21   something about it like maybe an Italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24   that sounds so weird you're saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25   this is the Ferrari or whatever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   it is the Ferrari at this point I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   anyway LOL eventually it won't be but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   I don't know I it's not like a wee level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/91">TS</a>]

00:01:35   naming disaster but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/95">TS</a>]

00:01:39   middle-of-the-road on it I kind of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   that having like it a name for like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   one name like Madonna kinda it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   little bit as a little bit of cash eh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   alright well anyone has due to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   other models like you have you have left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   Ferrari and you have all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   Ferraris yeah yeah whatever he may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   already named literary California so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   there-there gaming has been yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   it's just it's and like I i just looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   at a handful of news articles about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   see and and almost all of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07   saying the ferrari laferrari which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/127">TS</a>]

00:02:11   just ridiculous but that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   happen all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   like you know you have to admit when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   you're when you're picking like a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/135">TS</a>]

00:02:16   new name for something you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   imagine how it's going to be used and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   when you're doing something a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   unconventional like calling the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/143">TS</a>]

00:02:27   model of ferrari laferrari you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   expect that a whole lot of the press and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   a whole lot of people are going to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   it the ferrari laferrari did not not use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   it the way you probably intended the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/158">TS</a>]

00:02:39   name to be used and just based on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   alone I think that should probably tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   you maybe we shouldn't use this name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   well they don't say the Ferrari let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   first of all offer our is one word so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   that's good if it's a space / Morrison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   second like it in Ferraris own you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   English copy it says that the laferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   blah blah so it's got a double on it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   assuming the time they don't double it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   don't know but the car itself is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/181">TS</a>]

00:03:05   everybody expected i mean it's been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   story itself is posting youtube videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   of like a disguised you know testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   mule type of thing where they got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   black paint over it and the fake body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   panels and stuff it's kind of weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   for the carmaker to be posting its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21   disguised car running around cuz i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22   think that shows the car in the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   light I mean even in their official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/204">TS</a>]

00:03:25   website they have something showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   listen to the engine sound and i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   video of the disguised car running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   around the track don't want to see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   guy's car because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33   intentionally made to look ugly and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34   weird things sticking out of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   that's not a good idea but anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   you know mid-engine carbon fiber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   supercar thing with a hybrid powertrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/222">TS</a>]

00:03:46   which is the supercar fat of the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   I don't mean a lot of people angry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/230">TS</a>]

00:03:54   it thinking that it was some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   ploy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   I guess these are people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   follow the car industry think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/239">TS</a>]

00:04:00   some sort of ploy for like to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03   ego people for like you know you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   think that your green and eco-friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   and an environmentally-friendly now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   because you put this hybrid thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10   super car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   I can't imagine anybody who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   anything about Ferrari or the supercar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   market or anything thinking that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   since it's so clearly not the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   like no one is going to be fooled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   thinking what how big is this engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   I'm looking for the displacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26   well whatever it is it 800 horsepower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   v12 it's like all but its fuel efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   because it has a hot it's a hybrid gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34   not something i've been at least one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   person will think the head it's 66 . 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   liters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/278">TS</a>]

00:04:39   yeah so this is the second last and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   the engine you could fit maybe a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   ground up my engine you could fit inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   the displacement of the dungeon problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   you know the reason like Porsches doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/286">TS</a>]

00:04:50   with their 919 spider and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/290">TS</a>]

00:04:54   like everyone's anything because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   makes the car go faster and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59   interesting thing about hypercars i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/299">TS</a>]

00:05:00   think is a lot of people asking us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   talk about f1 which i personally know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   nothing about but I do know that in for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/303">TS</a>]

00:05:07   various reasons f1 has a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   rules and restrictions on what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   put in the cars there is no such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   restriction on a car that you just sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15   to billionaires so they can do things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   their top-of-the-line supercar that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   can't do in their f1 car because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   various protection and vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   obviously the safety things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25   have to do for real cars that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   do with f1 cars but as far as I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   i don't know i shouldn't even venture a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   guess but I would imagine that hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   powertrains are not illegal in f1 anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   know anyone to google that and give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   something on follow-up i actually did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   little bit of looking around right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   before the show a lot of people like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   said have been asking us to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   f1 because on paper f1 is the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   meld of engineering and cars yet i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/350">TS</a>]

00:05:54   tried a couple of times not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   seriously to get into it and i could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   grasp it at all in the sense that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   found it willfully boring and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   always on if you're American in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   middle of the night and it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   approachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07   I don't like Nascar I think as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   ridiculous I don't follow any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   motor racing and I know that probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   disappoint anyone who wasn't born and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   bred in america that being said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   curse system ke RS which is kinetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20   energy recovery system which is the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   of hybrid this is some teams in f1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25   either did or do you use it as far as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   understand and in fact i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   earlier and apparently they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   increasing the possible output of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   current system for next season two like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   220 horsepower something that I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   find that again see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38   are allowed to use batteries in your f1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39   car well it's not batteries it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   actually a flywheel that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   interesting bit but this one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/404">TS</a>]

00:06:45   I think you're right yeah i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   the page like this that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   the laferrari has a battery pack not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/408">TS</a>]

00:06:52   big battery pack but a battery pack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   it does use you know the kinetic energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   recovery like when you're turning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   stuff like that to take access to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   for the wheels and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/419">TS</a>]

00:06:59   regenerative braking the whole nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   yards but there's also a battery pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   right so as per wikipedia as of 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   power capacity of the curves units will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   increase from 60 kilowatts or 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   horsepower 220 kilowatts does anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   really use kilowatts 260 horsepower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   there will be no this will be to balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   the sports move from a two and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   liter v8 21 and a half liter v6 got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   that's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20   yeah well I mean those cars weigh like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   you know 20 pounds i don't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   have it there under 2,000 pounds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   that I don't know but I would assume so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   yeah I mean so this district that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   thing about the laferrari is there their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   design Golden State design goal with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   people talking about what they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   they don't say as much but basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   when you add you know this hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   powertrain especially when you add those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41   battery packs that adds weight to a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   and you want the way to be down so their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/463">TS</a>]

00:07:44   goal was to you know can we add these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   the these this hybrid powertrain which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   gives us you know great low end torque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   and lots of other positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51   characteristics without making the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   porker because you know that the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   Model S is a tremendously happy car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   probably twice as much as this laferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   right now so you can't just stop with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   batteries will destroy performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   they're basically trying to balance how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   big can we make the battery pack until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   the point where the extra torque we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08   from the battery extra power away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   that battery pack is not overcome by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13   way to of the pack itself so they kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   trying to balance it if we do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   if you make it too big just you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   making your hard works if you make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   too small you're not doing enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/499">TS</a>]

00:08:20   make it better is there trying to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   of balance that equation there and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   first thing I did when I pulled up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   car on mine it was announced that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/507">TS</a>]

00:08:28   auto show and I went to the laferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   com was I went to the technical specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33   thing I wanted to see what is the weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   how much does this car way and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   think that you listed the weight at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   i'm looking at the site now I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   still not listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   let's see tech specs I anyway I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/522">TS</a>]

00:08:48   know on the very first day there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   wait listed for the thing and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/530">TS</a>]

00:08:53   not reassuring to me they talked a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   about how they saved a lot of weight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   other aspects of the carbon i'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/537">TS</a>]

00:08:58   it's all making up for the for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/538">TS</a>]

00:09:03   battery pack and they didn't of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   talk about how it lapse their test track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   five seconds faster than their previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/546">TS</a>]

00:09:07   car and all the other good things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   it but wait i think still is a concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12   so this is kind of like a supercar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   transitional phase i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   they're transitioning entire to electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   or whatever but like this this system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   where you have to power trains where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   you've got your big gigantic good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   old-fashioned engine incredibly high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25   revving very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   all good things right and also a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   bit of an electric motor attached in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   there you don't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   powertrains like that the model s the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   design of big battery pack 1 engine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/577">TS</a>]

00:09:41   each wheel no gear is no nothing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/581">TS</a>]

00:09:45   very simple and direct it's just obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   that that design is never gonna work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   supercar because you're super kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   being 5,000 pounds that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   non-starter unless you're the bugatti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/593">TS</a>]

00:09:54   veyron over the hell that thing weighs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/594">TS</a>]

00:09:55   because I knew you know I have what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/595">TS</a>]

00:09:59   that 16-cylinder engine in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   yeah that's yeah that's a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   issue and it's a lot turbo and it's 1100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/602">TS</a>]

00:10:07   power I mean at some point we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   overcome wait this is good business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10   getting up to it so you've got this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   what is it to 700 ish think 750 ish so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/612">TS</a>]

00:10:16   963 horsepower is there they're claiming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   it was looking at torque then that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   that that's their claim that total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   horsepower with the you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   everything combined and made under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   horsepower engine + 250 260 34 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/627">TS</a>]

00:10:31   I in a car that presumably does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/631">TS</a>]

00:10:35   weigh a tremendous amount more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   last car and you know that the purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   in their numbers they say the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   seconds faster on the track is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   don't know how long the track is but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46   know it it's faster as they say hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/646">TS</a>]

00:10:50   6263 horsepower from this hybrid for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   hybrid system that is hi yes I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   to parallel park it with that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   he knows what you can get it over first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   you can't get over the the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   skirt things yeah so the rest of the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   like the aerodynamic aids all the active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   aerodynamics stuff i obviously if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   could be wrong about f1 again and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09   that I think that's another area that f1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   has more restrictions and streetcars 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   people can write and tell me what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   about that like basically an f1 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   inheritance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/678">TS</a>]

00:11:19   their goal is to make a competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   sport their goal is not to see how fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   we can go i mean just talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   the engines like v8 or v6 is I whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   restrictions they have on the racing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   there's two isn't trying to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   name of fairness but there's no such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/691">TS</a>]

00:11:32   thing as Paris when you're making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   hypercar you just make it as fast as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   I guess you have legal restrictions you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   know for various countries is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   be sold in but the a these active Aero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44   aids basically flaps on the bottom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   top of the car fall within the legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   range of things that you can drive on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   the road in most civilized country so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   hey no problem so that we can get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/713">TS</a>]

00:11:57   one more thing that can break on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   that's what you don't care you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   millionaire exactly yeah that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   another interesting innovation here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   whereas i don't think the Enzo had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   sort of actor or at least not the degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   of active aerodynamics interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   active aerodynamics are not in service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   of going after the Veyrons top speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/733">TS</a>]

00:12:16   like no one is as want to touch that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   so many years now it's alright well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   made this crazy car that was ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   amount of power and its sole job is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   be SuperDuper fast and you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27   faster on tracks just a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   amount of power even McLaren's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   after mclaren f1 was the big in a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   speaking for a long time and their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34   p1 also has declined to participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   the go after the Veyron top speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   it's probably because to beat the Veyron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   top speed you have to compromise in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   many other areas and all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45   would rather have a car that is more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48   an all-round supercar that it does more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   than just hit the top speed just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   hell of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   so all these arrowheads and laferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   are apparently not to help it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   go 260 miles an hour top speed is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   about producing downforce and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   around the track faster which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02   the appropriate philosophy in mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/782">TS</a>]

00:13:06   and stance for ferrari to take rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/788">TS</a>]

00:13:08   blindly chasing after the top speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   crown which is mostly meaningless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/790">TS</a>]

00:13:11   because that the number of roads in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   world where you can get over 260 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   an hour are probably very small what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/795">TS</a>]

00:13:21   else we got in this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/801">TS</a>]

00:13:22   good got an LCD instrument cluster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   surprise great i mean there are 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/804">TS</a>]

00:13:28   inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/808">TS</a>]

00:13:28   there's no stopping and not know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   that priming the the thing and in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   of you know I know just hanging out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   me if you like a long time ago John you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   went backward back in the early days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   your hypercritical podcast which episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/818">TS</a>]

00:13:41   was the TV episode it was lost it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   really early right before the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   episode of TV and I never visited many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47   times okay well you know it at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/827">TS</a>]

00:13:51   you were discussing like you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/831">TS</a>]

00:13:52   process of buying a new TV and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55   trying to evaluate the different types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   of tvs that that were that had come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   this is about what two years ago and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01   just looking at you know the plasma LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   and all the little tricks that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   with technology to try to make it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   because we had passed the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   the simple thing worked for at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   simpler thing worked and we had reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   the point TV technology where we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   still today we're in order to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/858">TS</a>]

00:14:22   contrast more brightness faster refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   whatever the case in order to improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   the spectrum to compete the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   manufacturers had to start doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   these like weird little tricks and hacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   to to pass these limits that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   found with the simpler options and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   feel like when that happens to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   industry that tends to make products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   that are better in some ways worse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   others way more complex and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   there's weird side effects to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   decisions that they've made and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   often kind of questionable at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   whether overall we're better off or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   and and I feel like that's where cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   are especially at the very high end like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/899">TS</a>]

00:14:59   that's where cars are today where we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   we've already exhausted the value I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/902">TS</a>]

00:15:08   think of a naturally aspirated engine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   think we're going to see very very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   of those in new car models going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   except for the very low-end even I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/914">TS</a>]

00:15:18   even like the honda accord and toyota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   camry i would bet are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   turbocharged fairly soon do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   that's probably that's probably a safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   assumption right for eventually I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   that's a industry-wide trend is lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   placement with turbos right well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   little I think you're right the only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   only complaint I would lodge with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   regard to that assertion is that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   are used to driving a naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   aspirated car and you drive nearly any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   turbocharged car no matter how good of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   turbocharged motor it is you still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/946">TS</a>]

00:15:50   that lag it's the same kind of leg that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   I would feel into naturally aspirated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   cars one of which is a stick and one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   not where you get that kind of lag from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   the torque converter in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58   disconnection between the motor in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/958">TS</a>]

00:16:02   in the drivetrain and you get that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   well and a turbocharged car and so while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   i completely agree with you guys that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   the street in most normal applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   that's the where everything is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   be a turbocharged but the having driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   some reasonably quick naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   aspirated cars like my friend brian's 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   m three the throttle response from those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   colors is just unbelievable and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   never get that with the turbocharger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   even in the 335 and with the n54 than 55 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   which are universally praised as having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   almost no lag it's there's still enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   flag that way it would bother you and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   I I don't know when specifically this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   would be used except maybe track queens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   but i just don't see turbochargers going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   I don't see natural aspiration going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   completely out the window and not to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   that that's what I think it always ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   go away entirely well now you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   would work to the point now where other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   factors that people want or that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   factors are better demanded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   regulations like environmental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   regulations things that people want are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   becoming more important orders being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   more demand for them then the benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   of a simpler design to and people aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   going people aren't going low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   displacement turbo because they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:08   it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   they're going there because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10   forced to write because it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   efficient and and it's a way to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   power about adding more animated way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   get to put smaller engines and smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   engines way less smaller engines with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   lower displacement to use use less gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   but people still want to have adequate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   power alright so we'll give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25   smaller engine that weighs less that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   lower displacement but will try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   release match the previous power with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29   audiences are both right but see but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32   it's if we're going to start having all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   these asterisks on everything like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   know that the laferrari it has these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   different powertrains one of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   produces the whatever 800-horsepower one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   of experience 163 horsepower but 263 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:46   horsepower is like a maximum and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   I'm sure it's possible that if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:50   driving it pretty hard that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   probably not gonna have full battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   charge after a while and you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   gonna like there's gonna be times where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58   the battery will run out and he and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01   the performance will suffer until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   get enough battery power back and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   be down to only 800 horsepower well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   still what the one about the total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   living along practically but still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   there's going to be things like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   little exceptions to feel like as cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   move into these complicated technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:17   there's always little exception so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   what turbos at first and until they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   very good at least the big the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   asterisk was lag and I think we've we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:26   minimize lag so far and I'm sure there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29   still a way to go and and and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32   right that it's not eliminated but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   certainly gotten very good at it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   like as things get more complicated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:39   becomes harder to say oh well it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   has X horsepower and even like like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   discussed dct is a while back and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:48   wrote in and informed us that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   with the dct it pre-selects the next get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:53   you're likely to pick but if you pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   the other one the other direction that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58   it didn't pre-select your shift times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   take longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:01   so your shift times taking take an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   unknown amount of time depending on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   you're doing so it's inconsistent that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   one of those things really we apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   technology to make it better most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   time but then there's a little asterisk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   that oh well it's going to take longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   if you do this one condition or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   like there's always that there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   these little exceptions as we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   things more complex that overall we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   getting better off but everything just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   getting more complicated and there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:28   we just keep seeing like little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29   downsides to that and it's going that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32   going to expand as his technology mature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   now get going back a second about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   turbo lag thing i found out now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   I've regularly driven a turbo car and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:43   turbo car i have found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   and that it's all about what you're used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   to like yes when I when I got the 1m I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:52   never had a turbo car before so i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   the 1am and I mean talk about turbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:57   boost I mean that thing is insanely over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   boosted like when when you step on it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   just kicks you in the butt forward I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   mean it is really really strong boost so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:08   I had it for a few months and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09   went to that racing day where i got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   drive the current m3 and m5 and the m3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   is a naturally aspirated v8 as you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   what I found with the m3 was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:20   because I was accustomed to that strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   turbo engine in the one app the m3 felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   like it was lacking high-end perfect I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   and performance in the RPM range even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   though that's what everyone's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   expecting out of cars forever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   didn't have that I had the turbo so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   I went to that it was like you know up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   from the beginning from of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   power range of the RPM range i was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   okay this is really fast and as I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   towards the top I was like wait where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   my boost you know what I expect this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   be kicking me in the butt right now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46   not you know so I i think it's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:50   about whatever you used to and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   feels normal to you and then when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   get into the other thing it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   underpowered either in the early part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   the Ranger on the left and later part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   the range finding what you're used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   I would agree with that i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   that's a very fair way of looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   and i don't know i mean i don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   turbocharged cars and everything you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   you guys just said is right now that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   subaru had a single turbo that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   know a measurement on top my head but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   did very qualitatively it felt lag year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:17   than 335 does I those the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   turbocharged cars driven irregularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   and 335 doesn't feel much like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   turbocharged card feels much more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   very small v8 which is exactly what BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   is aiming for and to that end I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   enjoy it now you put me in in John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   accord with a proper transmission and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37   turbochargers and I'll probably say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   it isn't as quick as a 335 that man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   that throttle response good so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   John have you driven many church party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   said your your appearance vulva was is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   that right yeah i mean and that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   was an old-style turbo where there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   engine and then all of a sudden as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   engine like that you know there was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   like that was like a group just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   continuous power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   banned entirely that's that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   exciting part about turbos is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   not so much if you had smoothly gone up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:05   to the level of power wouldn't be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   dramatic as you going and before like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   that there was tremendous turbo lag but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   when it kicked in yet i don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   was a very strong turbo but like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   the engine wasn't that powerful but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   turbo really you know you noticed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   that was exciting you know I mean keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   going from cars that had no power at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   to one that you know had this big jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   to power was good at the the same token [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:31   I've always this is the kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   engineering nerd type thing I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   respected car companies that produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   naturally aspirated engines and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   brag about the horsepower per liter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   right like that was the whole point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   race like acura had the crown with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   integra for a while I think and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   Ferrari had it with the 355 at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   had the highest you know output per for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   leader and that is kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   gentleman's like a gentleman's race for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   you know we're not going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   turbocharger yes we could we could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   pump air into the engine and get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   power that's unseemly we're going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   how much again you know and that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   about Marcos analogy with like lcds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   how their pack to death try to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   be decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   I think the appropriate analog for lcds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   and how you know we've changed them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:20   lot and and in the car world is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23   internal combustion engine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   internal combustion engines like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:26   you could squirt flammable stuff in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29   and light it and it pushes these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:31   that's great and then immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   everyone sees okay well that's good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   all but there are some problems with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   engine for one thing when you run too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   fast it explodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   that's bad time to get hot and melt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41   together we gotta think of something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:42   do about that too and you know it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:46   have all these belts and pulleys know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:47   that they are in great and they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:48   wear out and when they break bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   happen so if we could maybe get some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   you know it's like we've been hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   the internal and just an engine for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   of its terrible flaws though you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56   shakes the whole car apart well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   but a different amount of cylinders in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   it that will be better balance but if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   have the lower number we could bounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02   shafts in and like you know timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05   chains and overhead cams and direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   injection you know where instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   spraying the gas to a tube into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:09   thing maybe just squirt right into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   engine you know all we've just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   hacking this friggin thing to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   forever it is that the internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   combustion engine is the lcds of today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   where they have all this time tables on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19   had a transition of pixel from one color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   to another color by passing through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   solid color because that's actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   fastest path is pre-programmed in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   those things all that crazy stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   dynamic back lights on TVs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   everything that's what we're doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:31   internal combustion engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   contrast this with the new technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   which is you know like in the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   which is still in the stage were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   hey we can hook up batteries to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   electric motor and it goes and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   haven't yet begun to really hack that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   maybe we won't maybe just inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45   simple technology but for one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46   transmission goes out the window we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   hook up the freakin engine to the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   you know we're good to go there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   these things about torque you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   having a low-end torque or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   hundred percent of your target that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   available in electric languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   available with 0 RPM which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   different from the other things we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   to do with with regular you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   internal combustion engines so just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   but this combination seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07   hacker but I think internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   engines are really the ultimate hack job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   and we continue to push them and push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   them that's what the load displacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   herbal about it's like if you would if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   you took one of these load displacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   turbos from some crappy economy car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   brought it back in time to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21   fifties and said we have an engine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:24   you and it's ways you know 200 pants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   it displaces this much and this and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   is the mileage and is the power they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   be like this from a supercar like no to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   toyota echo you know like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   unbelievable we managed to ring out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   the internal combustion engine which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   why it's got such legs battery density [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   like power density of batteries like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   much energy can you put in how much mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   but we are much lower in advancing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   that's why all the hydrogen cars and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   that other stuff in our weekend which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51   all your cars and on we can run our cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   on tiny little off mr. fusion type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   things or maybe use depleted uranium or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   not completing the case may be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   like other things have better energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   mass than gasoline but currently battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   technology is not one of them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:07   gasoline also has a heck of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   advantages in just practicality like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:14   instance if you if you crash into a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   so hard that the gas tank ruptures it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   won't explode immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   you can't quite guarantee that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   hydrogen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:24   and and and there's there's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:27   sorts of other like transporting that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   truck transport on hydrogen is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33   dangerous compared to gasoline smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   like there's a debatable whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:36   hydrogen is more dangerous think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   the only thing is really really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   could say hydrogen has disadvantages vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   guess is that it has to be under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   pressure right and that adds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   tremendous implications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47   yeah yeah yeah I don't know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   explosiveness or any of those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   factors if that's if that's just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   of the pressures involved or not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   like have you guys heard of the Fisker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   Karma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   yes in fact mr. just quit didn't he mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:02   fisker I think just left the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   left the board or something there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   mean that company was probably never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   going anywhere but the design is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   the Chevy Volt where it's got a gasoline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   engine but the end is not connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   the wheels it's just there as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   generator to charge the batteries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:16   the batteries drive electric motors to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   make the car go right and i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   a pretty elegant solution to the hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   range problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   I mean to the electric car range problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   and we obviously that's a transitional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   technology until we can really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   gets the point where battery density is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   awesome and we can start doing you no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   longer range cars and maybe faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   recharges on the highway but until we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   get there which is probably at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   decade off i think these uh I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   things like the volt and the fisker are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:44   really a very smart compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   oh yeah I'd like to see it we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   have done that before the show if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   actually prepared but like a graph of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   energy density and batteries because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   think it is not improving all that fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   like you said 10 years but they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:56   just say ten years like it's right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   wearing like show me the graph right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   what is how how are our wii advantage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   obviously this to lots of effort put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   crew increasing energy density batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   because it helps laptops cell phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   tablets like this many applications of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   this car is just one of the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   applications so it seems it's not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   lack of trying like if someone could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   a tenfold increase in energy density and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   batteries and you know and maintain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   a reasonable recharge time like fuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   cells for the other thing is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   save us but still not here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   I think progress is slow on those fronts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   whereas I i bet i would like to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   graft against like mileage and power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   output for cars because during all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   time we've been complaining about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   these fuel efficiency stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   the average power available in any car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:42   pick any car range you know consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   sports or whatever just going up up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   because that's what we like we like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   power right so we've been making really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   good progress hacking the internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   combustion engine to not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   maintain the status quo with better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   mileage but give us better mileage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   more power and more torque and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   torque curves and less noise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   vibration and harshness and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   just improving on all fronts probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   faster than $PERCENT battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   technologies have been proving so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   unless there's going to be some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   breakthrough in battery technology in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   lifetime I'm having a hard time seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   the internal combustion engine ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   complete dethrone the balance of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18   and underneath the cars may change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   terms of how much battery how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   electric how much gas but any technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   is going to be the internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   has a tough road ahead of it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   internal brush and keeps getting better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   and we worked on it for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:34   battery technology and you know carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   and fuel cells have not been getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   better fast enough to like quickly swamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:41   and overtake like when the priest came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42   out of our people like Oh in five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   all these internal combustion engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45   will be gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46   well no not you mean not less battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   technology gets much better faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   if it does you'll notice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   suddenly you're your cell phone will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   last all week without charging when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   happens watch out internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   engine but you know right now on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   other limiting factors that may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   yourself what does go a week without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01   charging but it's only because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   internal components now sip juice like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   crazy but at your car has to carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:08   around you at the very least and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   not getting any center especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   American yeah and also known as we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   saying the minute ago like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   gasoline is extremely convenient for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   many reasons like it especially you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   you look at what test was doing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   supercharged and everything and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   that's a big step but it being it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:29   having to stop for 45 minutes or a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:33   hour whatever it is I don't want I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:34   want Tesla Sumerian and threatened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   lose a hundred million dollars of value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   but you know whatever it is half hour 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:41   minutes for a full charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   that's very very different to stop on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   road trip every 200 miles for that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   to stop every 500 miles 45 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:52   anywhere but no matter where you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   can find a gas station within a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   miles of where you are in all likelihood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   be able to stop their refill your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   and have another 500 miles arranged i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   mean that's that's awesome and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   gasoline today can do that and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   right it doesn't seem like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   alternatives are advancing quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   enough to be able to replace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   anytime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   I would agree with that it there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   argument that several people been making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   my father said this to me on numerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   occasions that we're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   really be able to break off the the oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:26   teat if you will until either we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   do run out of oil or it just gets taxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   well candidly to you know European [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   levels in America and then suddenly will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   say oh we must find a way and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   suddenly someone will have an epiphany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   and decide oh we can do this other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   much cheaper better we want dinosaurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   because we'll just do what you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   like every every time the gas prices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   getting near another dollar interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   everyone predict o-once it crosses X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55   dollars a gallon and then world never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   gonna c major you know major shifts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   demand and electric things taking over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   and practice that crosses that level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   everyone freaks out for a week and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   that's just the normal level of casque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   costs and and so it doesn't and yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:10   know food prices rise trucker prices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   you know like all this stuff happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:14   the economy but in people's minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   gasps crossing a certain level doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   really change anything now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   certainly you know to go to European [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   type pricing for gas it would I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   was mostly double our prices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   roughly $PERCENT accurate be paying more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   than eight dollars gown and and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:31   with the convert two leaders some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32   habitat that's a you know that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:36   certainly like a doubling is obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   a bigger change than just going to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   dollars or something and and that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   change people's minds a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:45   severely but I think we can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   already we can look at Europe we can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   places that do have way more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   gas than we do and they have an off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   switch to electric they just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   smaller displacement engines they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   care more about efficiency they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   smaller cars you know like that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:03   what we're going to see and we do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   that now already you know when as gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   pricing goes up we are seeing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   demand shift just very very slowly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:13   there's never some big trigger event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   that certainly makes everyone willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   tolerate such at things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   downsides of electric cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   oh there's two things work is energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   density which you just mentioned and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   finally did look up a graphing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   according to this graph we have doubled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   energy density and 10 years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   basically from the introduction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31   ev1 to the Tesla so there's progress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   it's something every year it's doubling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   every 10 years so that's 10 times slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36   than we would expect from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   transistor density or whatever and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   other factors cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   alright so fine say we could double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:43   energy density in one year instead of 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   it still costs 50 grand for you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   real cost without government you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   subsidies and rebates and other stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   get you just any car with it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   reasonable range with a battery in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   it's not so good I mean I that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59   we have all these government subsidies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   that make the model s as cheap as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   a hundred grand like the Chevy Volt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   like 40 grand which is still expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   but the Sheffield is not really 40 grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:08   it's way more expensive than that now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   you just if you're paying the full cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11   and so these increases energy and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   have to come along with an economical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:18   increases energy density because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   batteries are so big and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   the the things physics are so movable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   you have to move the people over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:24   roads through the air you can't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   that energy barrier is not going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   any lower and yet I mean it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31   thinking that I mean here's a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32   you know right now like you know as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:36   can probably tell by my ranting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   range and and refill times I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   buy something like the Tesla today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41   because I frequently take long road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   trips that are you know like 200 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   long or 250 miles long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   where it sounds like I would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   not make it on a full charge of a Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54   or it would be it would be uncomfortably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   close so i probably should probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57   wouldn't want to attempt that anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   like a at the addition question first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   answer how much range do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   electric car would need for you to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   it your only car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   like I think for me that number is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   probably 500 miles and i'm basing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:15   on like I would want to be if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   taking a multi-day road trip which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   granted i don't really do the most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   the time but it but if I was taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   multi-day road trip i would want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26   roughly the number of miles i would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   to drive per day before just gettin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   tired and wanted to save the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   next day so I think 500 is a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   number for that but actually that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   real world miles though not 500 like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   you absolutely stretch everything to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   max and drive perfectly on a perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   flat road with no wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   I'm talking real usage mileage so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   would probably need an advertised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   capacity of more like 700 miles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   you're basing that on on the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   it takes you a long time to refuel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:57   that you can't refuel anywhere that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   true that those are two things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   you're not insisting a 500 mile range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   and gas garbage like I just stopped at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   gas station big deal no big deal right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05   a lot of cars over 500 my friendships I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   tell ya something very few very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   view but yea BMWs are among those cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   that ridiculous ranges another not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   becoming Muslim yeah I fill my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   constantly well some of them do I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   thought was just reading about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   just reading about some car with BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   with a 500 mile range was a DVD m550d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   which is ridiculously awesome we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   never get in the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   yeah my abilities but anyway like so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:33   you have one of these cars like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   vaults of the Karma we're all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   the range is 200 miles or 250 miles even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   or something that reason one else but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   you just felt the gas tank when it runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   out right in the gas station it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   electric are you still get you know 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   miles per gallon or whatever 60 then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   suddenly you don't your criteria 500 my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   range is not a big deal you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   talking about pure-play entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   electric cars because you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   given current technology it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:59   forever to charge them you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   stop for 10 minutes and you know fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   the tank again you're going to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   for an hour two hours something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06   good like that it's really extending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   your trip and I'm frequently like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   frequently in rural areas where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   there you might have to drive five miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   before you see the first gas station i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   think it's going to be fairly long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   before those places have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   high speed electric charge stations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   high-speed it's like a half an hour in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:25   our writings have more it still sucks if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:28   you do if you weren't planning like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   know Tesla's Tesla's PR kind of says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33   well you know if you if you're stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   for a meal i must recharge your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   rental it'll just take longer to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   and have a meal well i don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   you but when I stopped for a road trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   first of all I like not having to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   for a half-hour like if I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   want to me i don't really need a meal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48   thank you i just like to fill up please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49   with gas that takes five minutes and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   even even from stopping for a meal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   what they're really what they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   telling us to get a full charge need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   stop for like 45 minutes or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   that's that's a bit long for a road trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   meal for me like when we stopped you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   know even a rest stop and maybe if we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   to the bathroom and get gas and get food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   maybe it might be 25-30 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:14   you know like it here and and we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:15   likely to do that do in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18   most road trips you know like most road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   trips are going to be like for us it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22   gonna be like that 200 to 300 mile range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   where we can make it the whole way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   without gas or food probably you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   and if we do stop for either we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   make it quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32   similarly like I mean obviously I'm new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   to this whole having a kid thing but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:40   us you know I I assume this is similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   with other parents you know the baby has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   his own schedule and if we stop for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:50   half hour at an unplanned time that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   going to really backfire in a bad way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56   all likelihood and whereas like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   if I'm just stopping for five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00   and the baby is trying to sleep and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   only wants to sleep on the cars going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   fast okay i can stop 45 minutes he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   sleep through it if he wakes up he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   scream 43 minutes and then we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   you know that's that's very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   from ok here's an unplanned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   half-hour-long stop and and some of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17   is you could argue some of this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   just be changing your habits and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   planning for these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23   accommodating for these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   that's not a very strong selling point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   in a market that's already established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   like gas is really convenient we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   gas everywhere available to us for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   reasonable prices for the most part with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37   very fast Philip times and so gas is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   very convenient and and two for somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   to spend more temporarily spend more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:45   electric car and to have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   downsides that go with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   I think it's a pretty weak proposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   but i think they were the range thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   mostly not it i mean not that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   important because it is for this for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59   the reasons you listed but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   mostly it's not what's preventing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   electric cars from up being more popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   it cost us the problem because so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   people do not take long trips or have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   two cars and you can have one for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   long trip someone not for the long trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   you just need to make the cars and much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   less expensive because then people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   consider them those hey i'm saving all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   this money on gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   why wouldn't advise got what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   wouldn't buy this is 30 grand that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21   you wouldn't buy you have fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   thousand dollars you can get a honda fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   that has almost as good mileage not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   quite you know me but if you if if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:27   become price-competitive then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   people by a little cars to just commute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   back and forth to work my work is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:32   five miles away from my house and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   know I drive 10 miles a day and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   i'm back home i would buy a pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   electric car to commute to and from work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   in a second if it didn't cost so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:44   money you know what I mean oh I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   you're right that cost is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   number one factor but you gotta figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   also a lot of people that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:53   see this with a lot with people who buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   SUVs or pickup trucks a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   will buy a car thinking that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   use it in some fashion that requires a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04   certain type of car whether it's a truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   or a big SUV or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   they'll say oh well I'll occasionally go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   up in the mountains or I'll occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   to haul something and it might they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   might only need to do that once a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:14   or like twice during the entire time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   they have the car but they still buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:20   car you know kind of aspirationally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   thinking oh I I'm gonna need it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   those times you and they will consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   things like oh I'll just rent a truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   for a day when I need one something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   value those options usually aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   considered just like a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   will will buy a car that is way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   than their quote needs because of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   something they have in their head that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   they think they'll do or they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43   even though they might never get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   to it that's going to be the big bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   album after cost becomes less of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   issue with electric cars that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   limited ranges are range issues that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   people like well what if i want to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   to ohio you know if that's that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   it's not gonna I'm gonna have to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   for hours in the middle like that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   even if you only drive to ohio once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:04   year or even if you haven't ever done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   and you might want to someday do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09   I wouldn't recommend them to ohio just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   as an example but if you do you might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   well we stopped at stake and shake their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   pretty good but yet through it all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   a boring state to drive through that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   mr. communities room at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   if they can get the cost down you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   immediately you then you have a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   market because you can immediately sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   to all the people who already buy cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   that they just know we're gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:30   little dinky commuters are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   Europe where like you know you go too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   far in your country so it's not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   know haha how long a trip can you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   taking that they have the Eurorail to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   on the long trip stuff like that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   is a market for small commuter cars it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   really never do on your own people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   buy them at especially if they're cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   and not just keep it cheap reliable like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   all there are many advantages to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   electric cars just as fewer fewer things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   that can go wrong in it you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:55   presumably by that point you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   more transmission or muffler like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   could seal the freaking thing up and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:01   to make it more weatherproof because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   everything can be you know all sealed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   and the technology is nailed down to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   it really will be a much more reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   much more pleasant thing to use in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:12   hypothetical future where it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   cost 30 grand take to get yourself one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   that that's any good then you've got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   are immediately got less a quarter maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   even half of the market you still don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   have those people think they're going a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   long trip and stuff like that but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   where hybrids can come in we like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   right fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:25   you've got a gasoline engine charges the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   batteries if if you run a juice just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   filled with gas station you're good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:30   go then that works out but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:34   think this is all gets back to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   those stupid batteries like all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   things are just all hypothetical because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   right now it's just it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   non-starter and I think there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   amount of like a wolf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43   government-subsidized these cars it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   would just you know all they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   to subsidize them in perpetuity until we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   can get another another 20 years we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   two more doubling of energy density [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   assuming current trends continue because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54   this graph looks like a line it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   like a curve so it's not like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   accelerating or decelerating is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   slow steady progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   sorry and internal combustion engines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   keep getting better as well so here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   question I mean think about it think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   about this first of all I to question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   do you do you foresee a future and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   and i'm sure this is probably a ways out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:16   but do you foresee a future where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   electric cars are cheaper than gas cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   because they are inherently simpler you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   know like how long do you think it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   before that happens they're cheaper now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27   if you don't get any batteries in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   that's because that's you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   that's what goes on the like those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   electric motors that drive the wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   compared to the number of parts in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   precision and write for for an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   combustion engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   yeah i mean electric car should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   cheaper as assuming they can figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   the battery thing is everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47   about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48   there's so much stuff you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:49   this also many parts go away so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   things don't need to be manufactured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   just so much stuff just disappears and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   it it really like looking at Tesla and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   tests are just shows you like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   regular cars filled with a lot of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   that you know that you don't strictly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   need all the government looks at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   wouldn't you do add a lot i mean i i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   sure it doesn't come close to closing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   the gap but you do add a lot of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   complex parts for for energy saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   purposes like regenerative breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   things and like various tricks for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   the electrical components in the car to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   save power like you lost like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23   because like solid state state stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   the type of thing that gets you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26   it's cheap it's not like it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   traditional seen pieces of metal flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   past each other a little while it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   get out with exhaust gases and heat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   noise and yeah it's it's way less it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   like no I don't know though because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   think you're over simple you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42   oversimplifying a bit in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   yes the engine unequivocally gets a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   simpler but you still have a drivetrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   you still have suspension you still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   wheel bearings instead of steering but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   you don't have a drivetrain to speak up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   when the electric motors are hooked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:54   to the wheels i guess i can even have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:57   license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58   alright you mean you still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   suspension components and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   that thing where but like and you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   still have the other thing you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   might not think about when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06   the tassels they still also have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07   like on the test blood they have a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   know that the pump further for the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13   I think it's not electrical power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   steering which is strange i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   actually a hydraulic pump that the pump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   the gas you know that hydraulic brakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20   they have the the little things going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   run the compressor for the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:23   conditioner right all these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   electric-powered things right but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   it's not just the things that drive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   wheels you need something for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   doesn't translate in the accessories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   it's all ends up being electric but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   sheer amount of stuff that isn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   is just so tremendous that these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   things it's kind of weird that they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   at this little you know they would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   the size of softballs like those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44   know there's a little air-conditioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   compressor and there's a little pomp and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   there's a little thing for the fan that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   stuff will continue to coalesce into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52   like I presume some little single blob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:56   in this future where all cars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   electric or on most cars or electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   where the really have it nailed down is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01   like it's like you know the LCD is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   internal combustion engine we have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:04   said so many years to hack on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   internal combustion engine this electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   motor is like the simple version before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   we start the hack on it to death before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   we've even electric motor sit around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   talk about electric car drive trains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   will figure out all the tricks that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   have to do to make an electric cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   drivetrain plus human creature comforts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   being an efficient package and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   iterate on that and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   iteration will look a little more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   iteration the technology industry then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   sort of the mechanical reciprocating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32   metal lubricated parts iteration which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   looks more like mechanical iteration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37   like it either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   this certain barriers to materials and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   cost of manufacturing and physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:42   tolerances that are pretty movable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   its really tough to make good progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   and those whereas if once we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   something electric we can just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49   drinking that introducing the power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   you know doing a lot of stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   very interesting . and if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   about it i'll probably beat up for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   but to some degree the automobiles it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   stands today is an extension of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01   Industrial Revolution and that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   a very very revel it's a machine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   been refined like you've been saying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   over and over and over again 400 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08   but again to your point it i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:12   to see what the future brings in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   of electric cars because now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14   moving just like you said more towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   the information age towards transistors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   towards solid-state and and I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:21   like it's time but just like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   have said either we need much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   batteries or we need much quicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   charging which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   you could argue is saying the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28   twice and I just I don't see how we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   gonna get there anytime soon but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   know i didn't think i'd be holding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:33   computer in my pocket 24 hours or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   than 24 hours a day but 10 hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   but you don't want it there on time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   what no not when I'm sleeping more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   careful you don't sleep in jeans on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   pocket with a song now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45   no sorry nor do I have a mock turtleneck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   this episode is sponsored by Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   Squarespace commerce as in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2931">TS</a>]

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00:49:03   website your podcast even including this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   podcast now you can also sell stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   Squarespace you can sell digital goods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   physical goods either both its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   integrated into all Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   templates you and there's fast merchant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   accounts and it's integrated with stripe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   and stripe is awesome you can accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   credit cards right on your site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   believe me doing that yourself really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   sucks you don't want to do it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   squared space takes care of all of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28   for you it's awesome single interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   for order management you can track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   orders provide customer email updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   you can print shipping labels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   coupons all that stuff doing it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   it's so complicated other platforms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   way more complicated usually more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   expensive you can do it on Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   they don't they don't even take of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   sales it's just get all this stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   included in a new business plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   24 bucks a month you pay annually 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   bucks month-to-month Squarespace is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2994">TS</a>]

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00:49:57   even if you weren't selling anything put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   up your blog put up your portfolio put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/2999">TS</a>]

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00:50:16   neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17   thanks guys thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   alright so time for automatic yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:24   are we done with a Ferrari anyone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:25   you talking about you're still talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   laferrari yeah along the engine the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:30   thing i think i'd like to add is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   its it's one of those things where in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   retrospect it seems inevitable but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35   surprising to me that we're just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   looking at the the drivetrains that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   have available to us in saying who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   know most internal combustion engines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   they don't really come into their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   until really late in the RPM range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50   generally speaking and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   interesting these electric engines we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   have have a million torque for torques [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:57   if you're Jeremy Clarkson from 0 RPM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   just like you said earlier John you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00   why don't we put these together and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   am surprised that the Ferrari is the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   of the ferrari laferrari cr0 to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07   me exactly is the first thing that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   is the first real supercar application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   that I'm aware of that really puts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   two together for nothing but performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   and it seems in retrospect so obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   you have the electric motor when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   making no torque and you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   internal combustion motor when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   making a ton of torque while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23   batteries are always the problem like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   do that if we could just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   battery's not be inside the car maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   could being the the electricity to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   car through a high-power laser of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32   kind maybe because that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   that's the problem is don't want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   microwave and simcity yeah so now I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   this what this doubling of energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   density of batteries in the past decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   is now got to the point where now also i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   think that is me a sex doing this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:45   well having a some sort of hybrid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   I don't know operated by the the portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   that BMW i8 is also doing it but we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   not talking about being with you anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   because the shows too much about BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   yeah it's not like I mean if this cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   is basically you know it's me it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   804 horsepower v12 that revs to 9,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:03   250 rpm which is insane and then just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:07   little bit of electricity that just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08   little bit extra of like made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   batteries as small as we possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   not a big deal little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   regenerative thing here you go like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   they show the little big show the graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   of the tour curves like will overlap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   these curves here's the engine here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   the electric motor and we add the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   curves together first day the electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   motor torque curve eventually starts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   tail off it very high rpm barely but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   does tail off a little bit whereas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   gas engine has a peak later on and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   slowly starts to an output right just uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:38   . also where you know going back to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   we were saying earlier about you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   theory about whatever you're used to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:43   what you think is normal between turbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   and naturally aspirated engines imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:49   once people get used to electric cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   all-electric car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52   I to go from that to a gas engine car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:56   the gas engine car must just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   incredibly clumsy and ancient by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   comparison and I'm not feeling all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03   torque that you have available with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:04   electric you know by having this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   complicated engine that's a no vibrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   and loud relatively speaking and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   know that it's got to just feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   don't like it'd be like riding this bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   riding like a rail cart that's stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19   behind a steam engine for that today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   like it would be like using a CRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   monitor i think that's the closest one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   because like once we cross that divide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   no one wants to go back to CRT is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   that curves thing with the staticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   stuff and the big giant wait that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   so much space remember divergence for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34   convergence whatever it was that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   make the pixels misalign there three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   colors of sweet pc monitors go here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:42   go here we go down that don't go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   that rabbit hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:45   are we done with the ferrari laferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46   well I don't really think there's one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   douchey way to say that you can either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50   just if you see dollar laferrari well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53   that's just come on that sounds terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   you can't I couldn't say that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   conversation i could say i got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   saying we start with that ugly is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   uglier than the ends are not uglier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   the ends up not absolutely this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:06   not the kind of car I would ever buy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   I i really can't judge it I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   looks it almost looks to me like a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   a cartoon car like I just this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15   has never entered my world of things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16   would ever consider driving around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   I don't think it looks like a cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   because if you look at that was that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   Lamborghini something with a V video or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:24   something like that's terrible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   looks like a cartoon car ferrari I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   feel like has been has the best styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31   among the top tier supercars because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   they make their cars interesting and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   but they don't like lozenges they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   look like a smooth stone polished in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40   river like they have personality but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   they don't look like something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   six-year-old withdraw without fins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   wings and how much of the stuff sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   out of it so well I barely remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   something an eight-year-old right LOL no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   i think i think this there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   sophistication to this i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   particular one is much much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   successful incarnation of this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01   style of car than the Enzo was the Enzo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   had some awkward bits on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   all these cars are basically like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   carbon fibre tub bolted to an engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   with suspension on it and then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   to figure it out put a car body over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   so kind of like an f1 car like styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16   is not they have limited freedom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   styling with this car because his car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   not about just looking beautiful as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   their top and performance car and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   have to compromise between styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   performance and this this is the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   ferrari says actually no we got a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   blind performances the whole . this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   exist and across the bazillion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   so it better be fast but i think they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   a much better job with the styling than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   their competitors including the McLaren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   p1 which I think was like a a giant fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:41   or snail or some other kind of ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   thing I still think the other Ferraris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   are better looking than this but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   they can be because they can afford to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   be because they don't have to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   uncompromising about performance but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   give this following a pretty big thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   up especially after the dark times of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   the endzone the f50 which were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   attractive cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   i mean i-i think it looks good but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   I just it i can't really judge was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   for me i got nothing for me lately like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11   like learning a car like i can look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   really nice-looking car but if I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:17   later learn that that like the inside is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:21   kind of like the interior is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   crappy or it doesn't ride very well or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   it's just like really impractical that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   it's kinda like like finding out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   are really attractive person is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   really crazy or stupid or mean it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   you just like like I can't I can't enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   looking at cars like this or looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:40   cars that I that I learn our are bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   some other way even if they look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   I lose the ability to enjoy that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   once I start thinking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   aspirationally what I want to own this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   you know for all these different reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   so I i kinda can enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   so if you were to in the comedy of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   I'm about to say is i'm asking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   future / owner of an m5 but Marco money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   no object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:04   uh-huh what supercar do you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   would have the m5 it could be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   exactly the reason i got an--oh okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:10   seriously car i thought so he said let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   assume you have infinite money which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   means you already have like a car for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   the family car and you have the car for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17   every day trips and now you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   infinity pool of money like what about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20   car for the days when I just want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   to the track or just go out on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   and just fool around no one else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   gonna drive this car could have one seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   for all you know this is the sole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:28   purpose card its own separate house that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   lives in with a staff that takes care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   right next to your house . here intact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   your eyes that doesn't anyway and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   you want you just walk up and show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   brings it out for you and you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40   what car is that car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:41   honestly I don't know I've never thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   about that because well first of all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   many cases I think the m5 would still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   that car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48   uh I would but but I just I just think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   i don't know like I i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54   fantasize about getting into some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   kind of like super high-end cars why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   I've never even considered my options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00   even our yeah i think it like i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03   imagine you being that person who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04   like to figure out what it is like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   you've got this infinite money and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:07   got nothing to do with your time except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   for you know figure out your stable cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   here like I want the car that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   going to go and blaster and roads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   have fun with you might end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   something like an Ariel Atom because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   may drive that and say whoo-whoo that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   the biggest blast gets insanely fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   he opens a new sensation you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   for something else that is super car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   like performance is also ugly as sin you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   know maybe that's not a factor for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   in when purchasing this type of car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   yeah I don't know I I just like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:36   one of the reasons why i like the m5 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   much is because it is all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   to me like I can I can have my key to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43   i can have all of those like for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:47   does although supercar roles that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   you know in my fantasy world but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:52   also a practical everyday car and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   comfortable and has air conditioning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   a good radio like it has hot those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   things like it it that's why I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   so much and i know what I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   liked to store thousands of things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   is much more than some you sure yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   already car it's much slower than all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   these other supercars were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:10   in ways that you would actually notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   not like it's a tenth of a second slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13   things are under two seconds to 60 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   would notice that difference it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   twice as fast practically but we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   be going that I could even I mean I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   don't even I can't even use the m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   capacity where where I live and where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   Drive even if i was going to a track i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   would like the m5 is so good on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:31   track it's so far beyond my abilities as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:34   a driver to even take advantage of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   power that I feel like if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   something even more powerful the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   reason the only way I would be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   really take advantage of it is if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44   became a full-time track driver and got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47   really good head and down 0-2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   what about it obviously on a track i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   think you would prefer something not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:57   like a miata maybe like that the-the-the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   like a miata maybe like that the-the-the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   rsr no subaru brz not because it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   be faster on the track but because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   if we gave you a choice like you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   laugh this track in your iphone 5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   then they gave you a much lighter weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   car that is just you know better suited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   to the track even if you went around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   track slower because they don't have as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16   much power i think you would have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   fun because it's like better suited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   the track is definitely that's what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   section of your your stable cars is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   is not necessarily to make a mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   that's why i said Ariel Atom you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   is really fast it could be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:29   that is slower than your other car but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   it's just more fun because it's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   amusement-park ride and it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   different when you're not swinging 4,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   pounds around corners when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:38   swinging half of that around corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   it just feels different and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:41   even feel faster while not being faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:45   honestly i think i think a something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:49   like the Tesla Roadster might even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   the better choice for something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:54   like they make that anymore but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:55   can if they didn't like I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:56   would like the model s you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   probably actually take a test drive that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59   because the quality wanted to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   how much for a test drive oh that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   i said no thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:05   the experience of being in that car like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   i don't think it'll convince you to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:08   one but it is a different enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   experience from being a regular gas car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   and it is pretty high-end be feeling shy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   in that car be with the low-end torque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   and the silence and the just the novelty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:20   of it is a different experience that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   give you a preview of what what cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   maybe like sometimes it isn't yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27   would love to ride in a Model S I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28   haven't had the chance yet but uh me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   grant i haven't tried that hard like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   was that the one store in the mall by me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   and they want 25 grand so I said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   thanks but you know I'm sure I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   could email them and say hey I'm a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   podcaster hey maybe you can give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   free press ride or a loner for a weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   and drove behind me on my way home today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   is that there are three miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:50   yeah i know i do still along behind me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:51   was getting nervous because like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   coming up on me pretty fast like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:54   he doesn't know how to drive this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55   epic it doesn't look like i said once i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   will let you drive it you can drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   almost entirely with the right foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:00   where instead of hitting the brake you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   just let off the gas and it's very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   enough Breaking so you can get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:04   mode where you're just driving like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:05   golf cart but no breaks you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   letting up do you think we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   a lot of rear-ending well I he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   coming up on me really fast like now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   I have to use the breaker use the brake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   like I get paranoid about people coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   up on me too fast and it was an older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   guy too and I'm you know they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   slamming imagine stop in time and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   pulled into I believe you pulled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   whole foods so there you go that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   a surprise at all . and i say that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29   fan of high-end cars and a whole foods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:30   customer but that is not a surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:33   yeah so you're not going to nail down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   what kind of car you would have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36   m5 what about you Casey absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   unequivocally without a shadow of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   doubt I would choose the wrong car which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   is an Aston Martin not really any flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   probably dds that's that's so wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   i can see the the the value system using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:50   the pic that is is at the other extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   from Marco but I'm i think I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   in the middle where you you are you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:56   to own something beautiful yes and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:59   it weighs heavily in your choice of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   car you're getting because it's not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   if it will help out how the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04   performed you were not going to consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   Mars right right now yeah you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   something on a hammond likes i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:12   like the Pagani yeah he always liked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   ugly weirdo performance Scott yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17   yeah everybody acting as Martin he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   it's like it's like a piece of art or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   sculpture it's like it because you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   to own a beautiful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   yeah i definitely will say that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   Aston Martin that's one of the only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   super high-end cars looked at and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   just like wanted just from a like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   wanted in a physical way it's not like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:36   like i wanted to do bad things to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37   muffler but like you know like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   can look at that you can say that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   beautiful obviously I I totally get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   although when I went to go pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   1am it at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:46   specialty dealer they had an estimate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   the show floor it was like an exotic car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   dealer and I got to sit in it and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   the first never been in one and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   was kind of disappointed I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:55   know this is nice and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58   first of all you SAT really low to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3838">TS</a>]

01:03:59   ground which I discussed last episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   don't really like and it was just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   just sitting in it wasn't that thrilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:06   it wasn't really a car / forward Carl so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:11   it has to two strikes against it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14   yeah it i mean like i said in every way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   it is completely wrong except that in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   personal opinion it is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   beautiful car I've ever seen in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:21   I mean it's just was stunningly pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   and I although I would you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:27   very legitimately argue that the subaru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   was not terribly pretty you could argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   that the three that the 335i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:34   think it's pretty but you could argue it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:35   isn't i think my 300zx still looks semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:39   modern and nobody will agree with me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   i think that that's true collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   that the big but I is the one that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:47   the big everything because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50   everybody's very survival is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   encouraging one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:52   yeah very curvy I still find it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54   beautiful and it had to be honest as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   very similar lines to an Aston Martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:57   not what that's a terrible comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   but to my weird I it has some more lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   to an Aston Martin and so I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   acid is just an unbelievably just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   painfully beautiful car in and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:09   though it's not as fast as it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10   should or could be it probably will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   never work properly and I won't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15   that's because it's British but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   nonetheless it's just it i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   would be unbelievably fun I'd love one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   that's the kind of car like we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   before we had the baby we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   discussing possibly taking like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28   driving vacation after California too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   and we we would rent a a supercar of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:34   some kind and and drive along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   California coastline on whatever road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:38   that is pacific coast highway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:42   yeah and we listen to this and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   there's a company after that will rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   you asked Martin but only automatic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:50   and that's why end and we eventually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:51   cancel the whole trip because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   wish we could schedule it goes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:54   practicalities in life but that's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:58   would gladly if I was like going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   trip and going to rent something exotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   I i think i would still pick an ass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:03   I would hope if I could get a stick but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   i would at least probably still pick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   anyway or i would get a Ferrari honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   on especially cuz a lot of them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   get a lot of the Old Forest sticks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   when you looked into Gotham did we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:17   ya and i was one of the companies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   they also got things automatically think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21   right yeah I was unfortunately nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   can drive stick right and he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   destroy the clutch of this Ferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   everytime directed it exactly right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   John what would you pick i know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   answer some sort of the pony but horsey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:36   if you will but would it be the ferrari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   laferrari for specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   now some my car my like my fantasy car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:44   that I'd I i own it through by proxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:47   through a through force of will is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   always the and now it has been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   middle-of-the-road mid-engine ferrari so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:55   it was 348 then it was 355 then it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   360 that was the 430 now it's the 458 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   that's my car at as ferrari keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   upgrading at each time they produce a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05   new version i have to decide am I going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   to continue saying this is my car this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   line of cars or have they made it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   ugly for me or bad in some way so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:16   now would be it would be the 458 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   said if I had to choose between the 415 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   laferrari it might be a difficult choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   because you just said the laferrari yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26   i know that they simply say it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29   the the like the f50 and the Enzo were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:33   just so and even have 40 for that matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   were just so objectionable to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:36   smelling whys and the reason i picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37   for our instead of Lamborghini or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   other supercars that may be faster is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:40   because i really like Ferrari styling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   think that they have they've struck the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:45   right balance between something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   looks beautiful in something looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:48   functional and something that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   bit cool looking and I and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   they're starting has been evolving like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   from that you know from the Testarossa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:55   348 with the big you know stripes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   side you know that their evolution they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   have lost me yet they haven't gone into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:01   a bangle phase you know they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:04   they haven't really just gone off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:05   rails with the styling and that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:08   a big part of why I want to listen not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   just because it's fast and mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11   Marvel but because it's fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   mechanical Marvel and beautiful kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:14   like that we you know like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   hardware you again and talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   mac pro briefly you know i like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   that something is incredibly powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:23   and sophisticated and also beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   inside and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26   right like the dual g5 is a good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   that we're stuck at 500 megahertz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   forever with incredibly slow front side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   bus and finally make a machine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   going to break out of it and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35   beautiful inside and out that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   the Ferrari of max for a brief moment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   time right up so that's why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   definitely be 4i probably 458 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   realistically speaking of money was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   infinite someone gave me laferrari i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   would sell it get a 458 and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   no some sort of sedan and the 458 I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53   it is very pretty without without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   question it is a very very pretty car so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   i can . to be honest your answer is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4138">TS</a>]

01:08:59   right answer but when you have this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02   of question and you answer from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   harder the gutter the groin or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   I would still stick in my Aston and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:09   would probably also entirely as not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:10   hard as I said that a some reason like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:15   listings for high-end apartments in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   a note i want or whatever some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:18   agency where you were there lots of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:21   rich people or maybe with Russia even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   and they will sell you high-rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   apartments where you drive your car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   your car goes open an elevator and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   comes up to your apartment with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   it's it as a glass wall between the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   of your apartment and the place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:34   your car is so you can look at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   crap that's that is a feature something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   because what you know half of the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   i will be buying any of these cars is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42   because they're beautiful to look at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   I would like literally want to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   not in my house but basically so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   wake up in the morning I could eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:49   breakfast maybe a big glass wall on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   to ferrari sitting there that that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   lifestyle improvement as far as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:55   concerned every night with although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   hopefully would come with detailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   service also i mean i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   something right people keep it clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   whole look like that seems that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:03   silly but that is half the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   think a lot of people buy these cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06   because they are because the reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   know Casey's getting the ask them which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09   isn't is not a great car you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   because it's beautiful to look at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   looking at beautiful things makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:13   happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:14   yeah although and that's my problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   usually you don't spend a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:17   time looking at the outside of your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   car right and now you have occasion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   now truly in my perfect world I wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:26   one morning I stretch and I look over at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   aaron i'm extremely excited to wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   next to hers I am every day and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   look past Aaron and there's my Aston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   just sitting there waiting both ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   and the same bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   it's crowded it's crowded but we make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:41   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:45   give me a second i'm going to go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   something I'm gonna refill my drink here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:48   and then we can do ATP you guys good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   that's good i'm so what does Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:54   drinking place your bets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   haha he's got fizzy water don't kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:58   yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4258">TS</a>]

01:10:59   fizzy water I think so guess what i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02   drinking i don't know i don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:06   what you prefer are you a coffee person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   usually so i'm drinking you're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:10   to guess I you seem like the type that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:14   would enjoy tea but i'm gonna guess i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:19   gonna guess you're having no with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:20   coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21   I'm gonna get some sort of bubbly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24   beverage some sort of soda remarkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   know when he comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:29   yeah yeah I was trying to quit case you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:34   know what I was drinking using what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35   you think marcos drinking so you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   off to refill your drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   what do you think I said fizzy water he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   has a beer at night but he's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   refill that so I thought it was coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   I got nothing that's that's my guess was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   here yeah good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   he does his beer tonight just just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   one you usually it is just one but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:54   decided to try to tonight one free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   suncast alright well now I gotta go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   some more maker go forward to killing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   that and I i asked Casey what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   think i'm drinking yeah I gotta hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   their health without a faith that Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   gonna know what your every answer this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   run downstairs man i would guess just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:11   just knowing you i would guess you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   drinking water correct you should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   even think about how do not fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   regulated touring tap water not bottled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:22   water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:23   honda civic of drinks haha i drink water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:27   all day long that's what I drink I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:28   have I don't have coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   I don't drink alcohol not for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   particular reason I just don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   at water all day right speaking of let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   go get some makers of here enjoy like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38   exciting thing that I have when I go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:39   to eat as i have soda 1 you know so once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:44   every month and a half i have a1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:45   extremely watered-down sprite from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   restaurant that's really terrible now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:52   it's not water is great i recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54   discovered that you can you can flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   soda stream water using cocktail bitters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:59   so you can so now I got nothing you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   your infinite supply of those from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   experimentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:04   yes so now i have i can make myself lime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:08   orange or even grapefruits elser it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   quite good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:11   ok i just got back murder board a lime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   is especially the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGy1ip0U/4393">TS</a>]