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00:00:00   it seems like doing accidental podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   is kind of our thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2">TS</a>]

00:00:03   well because we can't really resist not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3">TS</a>]

00:00:06   talking about cars or not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   tech right so one way or another both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12   these things is going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/12">TS</a>]

00:00:13   we've been doing accidental car podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   in the after show after ATP but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/15">TS</a>]

00:00:19   usually you don't put them in the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/19">TS</a>]

00:00:20   after-show so it's kind of like a live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   only like a reward / punishment for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25   live listeners hit the air talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28   indeed and in this one is is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/28">TS</a>]

00:00:31   very special because we have a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/31">TS</a>]

00:00:32   guest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   hello I'm nailed it and where . comedic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/34">TS</a>]

00:00:41   timing is my specialty so it we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   very famous underscore david smith with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   us and there's a particular reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   those of us who pay attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   we have already figured out we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   agenda tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/53">TS</a>]

00:00:54   shockingly shockingly we actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   have a plan on the accidental car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   podcast so the three of the four of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/59">TS</a>]

00:01:03   actually did something fun about a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   ago and one of us was curmudgeon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   didn't now which of us would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   most likely to like not to have fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   it's not being a chromogen there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   would open it was incredibly wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   decision and I'm very proud of myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   for making it because I would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/79">TS</a>]

00:01:20   so screwed if I'd gone through its so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/80">TS</a>]

00:01:24   true when we continue to make fun of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25   for the rest of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   okay see what were you doing when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   apple event was happening in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   Mavericks was announced and released i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   do believe i was driving somebody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   m3 at speed around a racetrack what were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   you doing marco i believe i was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   the same thing underscore I was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   behind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   well i would say right behind haha true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/105">TS</a>]

00:01:49   story better start so what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/109">TS</a>]

00:01:53   referring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   for those of us who aren't keeping track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   is that underscore and Marco and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/116">TS</a>]

00:01:59   decided to go to BMW M Performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   school the two-day version and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   actually all started believing her not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   with underscores so do you want to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   of tell the origin story I mean surveyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   only just got started it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   this last may I turned 30 so became an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/132">TS</a>]

00:02:16   old man and as part of that I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   things I've always wanted to do is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22   have stepped take a step back and say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   a normal life I i drive-a 2005 to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26   corolla the car i love it's the only car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   I've ever owned and that's my history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   with cars though and one things I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/151">TS</a>]

00:02:32   always wondered about is what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   to drive a car that's not a very looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/154">TS</a>]

00:02:38   a low-power continued economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/158">TS</a>]

00:02:39   economical vehicle and so like 1i try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/159">TS</a>]

00:02:43   want to go to one of these kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   schools and so for my 30th birthday was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   the plan was like well do what I'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/167">TS</a>]

00:02:48   as my sort of 30th birthday is present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   to myself or for my wife and so then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55   next step became to try and work out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/175">TS</a>]

00:02:56   i could find people who would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   interested in doing such a thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   surprisingly i was able to convince by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   lot of cajoling and arm-twisting mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/183">TS</a>]

00:03:06   when Casey into coming along with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   whereby a lot of controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   arm-twisting you mean you asked us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   hey do you want to go 2 2day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/192">TS</a>]

00:03:13   performance driving school and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   the two of us said I'm yes exactly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   think both me and Casey were just on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21   edge of just wanted to do this and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22   never having a specific excuse or reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25   to do it at a specific time and you gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   us that yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   now John what was your excuse myself for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   not going is super expensive i hate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   travel and of the understand what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   going on around that time is that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   every i like you i think about it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   like i know you guys had a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   and everything but think of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   extra money I have to spend on my mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   pro haha when Marco and I are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/225">TS</a>]

00:03:49   talking about our fancy new mac pro's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50   Casey you're gonna be like oh no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   want to get one of those stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   computers is not so much money well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   would have had all that money if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   hadn't you know spent on driving but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   seriously I did I did seriously consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   it for a long time so much so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   talk to my wife about said you can go if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04   you want and I really thought about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   you know what maybe i should just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   this but I thought better of it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   end I'm actually impressed that you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   that far is mi I assumed that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   basically immediately vetoed it in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   head and never even bothered asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   anybody know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   I mean it's like it's like you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   like the youngster said I you figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   what you want to see what it's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   drive the big fancy cars that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   never going to own and if you don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   it now when are you gonna do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   what am I going to do it myself no then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   you know a bunch of people who I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34   we're going that's the time to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   right but no but no well we were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/275">TS</a>]

00:04:40   disappointed not to have you with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42   however we had a pretty good time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/282">TS</a>]

00:04:45   I I don't know what the appropriate way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   to recap the trip is but maybe I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   give the very very quick blow-by-blow of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54   kind of what the schedule was and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   dig into the specifics afterwards so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59   Marco either got volunteered or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   volunteered not sure which one it was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   drive down from New York but you gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   an excuse to drive an awesome car for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   few hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/308">TS</a>]

00:05:09   you're welcome for a lot of hours at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   well what you got to do a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   hours and also it doesn't it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   similar to how easily it was to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   me in case you to do this not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   it's pretty easy to convince me not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   fly somewhere that's within driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   distance because flying is just such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   pain in the butt I will avoid it not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   fear just out of I'd just hate it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/327">TS</a>]

00:05:30   yeah it didn't take much convincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   right so Marco drove down on like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/332">TS</a>]

00:05:36   was last Saturday I don't know i'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   the saturday before last it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   really matter he drove down on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   Saturday and picked up underscore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   outside DC and then the two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/343">TS</a>]

00:05:47   drove to Richmond where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   we all stay tonight richmond on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50   saturday night sunday we woke up got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   breakfast and then drove to spartanburg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/353">TS</a>]

00:05:57   south carolina which is where the BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   factory is in the United States and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   what do they build their is x3 x5 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   that right it'sit's sum of the x's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   not all the exes so they build some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   the exes there which is of no surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   given that americans love their SUVs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   on sunday we drove down we had dinner at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   the hotel in which BWW assigns us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   stay and then monday and tuesday we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   spent all day driving in basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   quarter million dollars worth of em cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   per person and then tuesday evening we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27   drove back to richmond and on wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   i went to my j.o.b job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/389">TS</a>]

00:06:32   Marco and Dave return home to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   lives of laser exactly those of us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/393">TS</a>]

00:06:37   have jlb jobs had to go back to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   those of us you don't really have jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   could do whatever we wanted it must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   tough it really is really and Virginia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/403">TS</a>]

00:06:47   bagels are better than montreal bagels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   who big words i agree but big words are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   you getting bagels in Virginia that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   was that what else you need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56   I don't know hush puppies haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/416">TS</a>]

00:07:00   there is a sonic drive-in about five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   minutes from my house which we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   have gone to make a waffle house down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   yes they have waffle house and denny's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   and all those sorts of fattening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   terrible things unfortunately waffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   house is not new to me at least because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   I'm from Ohio and it's everywhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   ohio people think it's only a southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   thing but Ohio steals a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   from the south and tries to act like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   normal and waffle house is so common in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25   Ohio that my friends and I high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   used to go to all the time that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   know one of the morning because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   open and nothing else really was and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33   would go to this one that was off of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/453">TS</a>]

00:07:34   an off ramp off of Interstate 70 where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/454">TS</a>]

00:07:37   there's they get so much truck traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   and truckers i guess like the waffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   house so much that there's one on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   sides of the street so that no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   which side you get off with the truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   you can just pour into a parking lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   then pull right back on the highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48   easily and there's enough business that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   to waffle houses across street from each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   other can stay in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   that's Ohio for you in one little story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   so you miss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   oh god so much the waffle house is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   so incredibly something I it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/480">TS</a>]

00:08:05   it's so incredibly there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   well to back up a step the bagels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   Virginia are nowhere near New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   bagels however I have found a place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   is as good an imposter of New York bagel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/493">TS</a>]

00:08:16   as one can reasonably expect 500 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   from New York and and Marco while he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   not an official New Yorker he's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   imposter New Yorker and I think you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   vouch for me on this issue its name like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   mountain view or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   what know the name of the place is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   Cupertino's oh that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   come on man anyway it's very good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   yeah so we we went to the um school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   it was pretty fantastic and it was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   because the most people who go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   school I have to imagine drive down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   corollas in accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   this and I don't know 328 and things of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   that nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   what did we roll to BWW school in an m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   we were suffering to say the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/531">TS</a>]

00:08:55   although as it turns out there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56   others that did the same thing how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   other and five drivers were there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59   three there were two others in our hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   at least and both of their way cleaner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/541">TS</a>]

00:09:04   than mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   well they also drove quite a bit less i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   do believe to get there but yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   even underscore drove the m5 did he not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12   on the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13   yeah that was I was actually hoping glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   I was a little concerned that are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/555">TS</a>]

00:09:19   from a rather a popper background of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   underpowered toyota's and Japanese cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/562">TS</a>]

00:09:26   that would be a little bit into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   digital like on monday morning at be sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   down in front of an empire like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31   the keys are based on actual even really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34   here's the magic thing that starts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   car push the button and off you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   so a little bit i was glad that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   able to get some sort of get through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   initial like pre-flight and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   marcos car and then just drive for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   little bit on the interstate to get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   to it before it actually counted sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   like Marco Polo Tom Sawyer on your to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   come and paint the fence it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   funny got you guys to basically show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   him haha if you guys are gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   do all the driving driving driving fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   cars fun but at a certain point you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   just hours and hours on the interstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   and that's no fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   well that's kind of the idea like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   one of the reasons why why I wanted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/606">TS</a>]

00:10:07   tutor for IV volunteer but you know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   i made a drive the first leg from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/609">TS</a>]

00:10:13   house to casey's because I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   ease his fears about these incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   powerful cars because the fact is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/619">TS</a>]

00:10:23   I mean there's something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   ridiculous cars like Ferraris are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25   hard to drive normally at low speeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   because they're gearing and clutches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29   everything but but I wanted to show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   sport sedans are still sedans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/632">TS</a>]

00:10:35   they're still made for the most part not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   to go on tracks you know most people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39   buy them don't take them on track as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   as i know and they're in you can be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   can drive these things normally every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   day and they just behave like normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   cars just when you hit the gas really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   hard they behave little bit differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   so Dave how would you describe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   difference between the m5 in your daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   it's bigger in decreasing as in normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/656">TS</a>]

00:11:01   use it is surprisingly similar in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04   that I'd I know it's terrible but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/664">TS</a>]

00:11:08   it's not very comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   it has a massage your buttocks while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   drive it touches which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   unsettling but yeah but it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   fun it's it was interesting to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/678">TS</a>]

00:11:19   the two things that I noticed about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   world biggest thing that I noticed in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   first from driving it that i would but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   miss now going to my you know going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   to my old corolla is that doesn't things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   like a heads-up display and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   kind of the new sword like that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   your fancier technology that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   kind of fun and when you're driving or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   just makes it more useful and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   little bit intoxicating that you can at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   any point you can suddenly like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   a gap in front of you that you'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   be in you can instantaneously be in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   in a way that the there's no pause or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   hesitation so it kind of forces a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   bit of decisiveness into your driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   style which is this serves as a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   bit of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   so you're saying there's a BMW turns you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   into a kind of a jerk on the road haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/720">TS</a>]

00:12:03   not necessarily a jerk but it definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/723">TS</a>]

00:12:06   think it definitely changes a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   the way that you have to view driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   because here we review the other cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13   pray you know it's it's like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/733">TS</a>]

00:12:17   Indiana is I'm not a particularly i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   not particularly big on firearms or guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22   but I imagine it's like the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   between if you have a small bowl 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   rifle or if you have a bazooka right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   have to be careful about what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   gonna point at in a different way then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   you would otherwise because if you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   your foot on the gas like if I put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   phone my gas in my little four-cylinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   car and I jam it down i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   go anywhere particularly quickly i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   still going to be where I was a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   minutes a few seconds ago at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46   that later whereas in this it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   your instantaneously you just jump 15 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51   miles an hour and so you have to be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   more conscious about what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   you should try downshifting first your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   camera oh wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   just rip you that's right is getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/778">TS</a>]

00:13:01   chord camera rivalry going here it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   corolla new corolla that's right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   yeah I feel bad for not that i say as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   drive home in my 11 year old honda civic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   so ya see you two are brothers in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/790">TS</a>]

00:13:14   own special way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   so yeah so so we get to this BMW M [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18   school after having driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   five-and-a-half hours are I i was part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   of five and a half hours of the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   from Richmond spartanburg there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   two-hour drive from Dave to me and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   like a four and a half five hour drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/807">TS</a>]

00:13:28   from Marco dave is that right about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   yeah so it was it was a hike but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   very worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/814">TS</a>]

00:13:35   we were on interstate 85 for forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   a day and before that mark when Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   were on Interstate 95 forever and a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   but we ended up in spartanburg and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   come Monday morning we get on a bus from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   the hotel to the to the BMW factory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/826">TS</a>]

00:13:51   we get in the classroom and we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   greeting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   BMW M school two day course day one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/834">TS</a>]

00:13:59   we do a little bit of classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/839">TS</a>]

00:14:00   instruction about all sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/840">TS</a>]

00:14:04   about weight transfer about finding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   apex finding the turning point what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   the exit . i forget the term for it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   something like that turnout turnout do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/851">TS</a>]

00:14:14   something like that anyway so we get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   little bit of casting classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   instruction track out i think track may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   whatever was so what you could tell we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   were paying close attention to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22   classroom portion because really all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   wanted to do was get in the cars so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27   the two day in school the first day is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   just general here's what over Syria's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   here's what under serious here's how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   find the racing line here so to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   apex or cornering . i believe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   called it here's how to have a drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   general and all of these things on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/880">TS</a>]

00:14:44   days were happening in m3 which worry 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/884">TS</a>]

00:14:48   m3 e92 m3 is which were on an MSRP if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/888">TS</a>]

00:14:51   like 80,000 dollars they were in an eft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   NM x which have an MSRP like a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   thousand dollars and I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   designation for the m6 is but there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   list for like a hundred twenty thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   dollars so all told we have like 200 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   250 thousand dollars at bmw's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   assigned to us and there are 15 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   in the class we were split into three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   groups of five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   and so our group naturally was Marco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   David myself and then two other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   who are very very nice and and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   basically spent the entire two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   together the five of us and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   unbelievably fun and it all began with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/923">TS</a>]

00:15:28   taking m3 is out onto a skidpad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/928">TS</a>]

00:15:32   market would you like to tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   what the skidpad was all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   well officially it's it's an exercise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   teach you what understeer and oversteer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40   feel like how how to avoid them at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43   and then how to create them if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   to and then you know how to regain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   control of your car in these situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   in reality it's about drifting and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/950">TS</a>]

00:15:54   let you know that they do instruct you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   on those things but the idea is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   finish the instruction of those quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   so that you can get to the fun drifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/961">TS</a>]

00:16:01   this was my second time on a skidpad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   first time I was very bad at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   didn't really and didn't do any drifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   because I was having enough trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/967">TS</a>]

00:16:08   figuring out the the oversteer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   correction for whatever reason I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   know why but this time it just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   clicked for me and so I figured out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   the oversteer very quickly and then was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   able to some drifting it was pretty fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20   it was a really cool experience because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/980">TS</a>]

00:16:23   you usually you are not told to please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/983">TS</a>]

00:16:27   lose control of your car right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   and even if you do lose control of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/989">TS</a>]

00:16:33   car in and unintentionally usually your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   car's traction control comes on and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37   yet that's not going to happen but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/997">TS</a>]

00:16:41   this case we're on a a wet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   constantly being sprayed down polished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   concrete pad driving in a tight circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   with a 400-horsepower rear-wheel-drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:53   car with the traction control turn all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   the way off and so it we were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   kick the rear end out at like 20 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   an hour and it was really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   what do you think of it Casey so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:07   previously a couple of cars ago had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   rear-wheel-drive 300zx which was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   turbo version and was very underpowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   but coming around to turn i was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   if I stood in the gas get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   of induced oversteer and control it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   reasonably well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   when I was on the skid pad in the 400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   horsepower m3 I got a lot of oversteer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:27   with very little control of any of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:30   and it's funny after having had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   all-wheel-drive cars how hard it is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:36   me to go back to controlling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   rear-wheel-drive car in power on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   overseer and I spun constantly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:43   felt like a moron but I did learn a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   and and I really learned a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   understeer actually so oversteers when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   the back end comes around when you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   expect it to or perhaps when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   expect it to and under stairs when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   you're trying to turn but the cars just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   kind of sliding out of the turn when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   don't want it to and I did learn a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   about what understeer feels like and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   you can better judge when it's about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   happen but this is all coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   someone who's had a rear-wheel-drive car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   in my life before one of us however has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13   never had a rear-wheel-drive car so Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   what did you think about the skidpad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19   skidpad i think was actually it for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   the things that we did I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   the exercise of the thing i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   actually learned the most practical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   knowledge or so that'll actually improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   my driving just in normal day-to-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   experience because I think prior to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:36   that I've only ever lost like actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39   lost reserve lost control or lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   traction of my car a couple of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   usually it's in very bad so you're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   bad driving you're driving service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   situations where we are very rainy very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   wet very many people I see that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   thing but it was interesting to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   quickly you could develop i guess like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   almost like the muscle memory to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   yourself out of that situation when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   you're sweeter when you when you used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   lose control of the car whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   front of the back and how after just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   doing it after doing it whatever 10-15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   times you're able to very quickly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13   catching yourself and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   reinforced actual crisis earlier but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   later on and during the week during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   the couple of days where I be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   I messed up a line or something and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   actually just Gino genuinely created one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26   of these two things i was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   correct it before I realized it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31   happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:31   and so in that sense it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   interesting I mean beyond just the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   that it was kind of a crazy experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   did the first time it's like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   gets you know sort of sets it on a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   like followme after the skid pad and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   I want you to jam your foot into the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   on this super slippery surface and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   first time in court like the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:48   either just spun around in a circle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51   it was an interesting experience to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   of gig get a feel for what color car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   actually responds at the limit like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   where normally you either have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   going sort of moronically quickly to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:03   that or you under the circumstance where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   the road conditions which is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   and so doing it in a way that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   only going 20 25 35 miles an hour and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   still being able to do it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   really constructive activity I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:16   just need snow that's all you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   know in the park people up in the North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   I mean I haven't driven real drive car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   I think maybe ever married that mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   got your vulva [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:25   well yeah I guess that count of eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   like 80 horsepower anyway but but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   snow i'm very experienced taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   front-wheel drive hondas around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   circles though because when it's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   they haven't plowed the parking lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   you're there and there's no one else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36   there do a couple Donuts you know slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:39   around mean you can't help it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   you can do that like three miles an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   because it's to police like and covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:44   with you know back down ice and snow so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   that's something that people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   South miss out i will say also a before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   we leave the skidpad topic that this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   this was the exercise especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55   first time people are on the skid pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   it's the exercise where people fail the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   most you know you you've tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   correct them and you spin around and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   gotta stop and turn around and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   again and the instructors handled this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   amazingly well like they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   encouraging it's not you know they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12   they explained this to his most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13   who go to the school are not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   car not a lot there's a lot of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:17   corporate groups there's a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   who are taking delivery of BMW there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   do do like a one-day thing like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   they have a lot of novices that go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:27   and so they're not only are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30   tolerant of novices but they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   very encouraging and they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   patient with you and and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37   explain things very well when you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   doing it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   and they're they're encouraging up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   say all right try again you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   it's it was a very very nice mood and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   had this both with this one I did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   the thing i did last year at lime rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   which is this a different portion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   same team that put on the event both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   times it be that the instructors really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   really good for novices especially yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:01   anything you can really just reiterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   that coming from having no experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   with this type of thing and bonsly being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   a little intimidated about whether i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08   should even do it in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   that I kind of had this fear going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   it that I just you know be completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   out of my league from you know from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   start and it wouldn't be fun because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   whole time it would be a service that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   sort of if I if I showed up at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   professional sports team practice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   tried to do a workout i just would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   destroyed like it would be wise with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   this i felt i would love to see that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   would be it would be able to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:32   comically bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   whereas I think they were able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   here is they're very able to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   quickly judge your skill level based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   where you where you're coming from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   they just like well I'm just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   teach you whatever whatever ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   beyond what you're capable of now i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   be encouraging you on that and once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   get that will do the next one to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   next and I just always felt that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   it its it you know you didn't need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   somehow you already know all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:59   which makes sense i guess in a sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00   what's the point of the school if ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   they expect you to know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:04   doing before you get there but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   definitely kind of nice a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   experience that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:08   yeah there's no assumption i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   almost a little bit insane that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   just sort of let you the huge know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   here's this very overpowered you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:18   expensive car go off and now drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   around on a on a slick surface with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   basically no no instruction prior to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:27   that beyond some of the stuff that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:28   done in the classroom but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29   basically just you know sort of here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   is go and from there they are just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   of able to get your sister to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36   build your confidence up from there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   also put a really high level of trust in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   you like for a lot of the exercises will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   get to they just you know most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   time you just put in a car and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   all right you know here's how you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   the car and drive go and and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   like babysitting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   we're giving you tons of sorts of a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:55   of a kind of plunging you into the deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   end with like oh my god i'm suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   driving a very expensive car with not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   whole lot of instruction before i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   into it but if they trust you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   everyone's adults they did they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   that you've driven before and they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   you know they know that you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   to like intentionally reckless giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   expensive cars with you in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   yeah and as it turns out one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   three of us actually did sort of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   rac1 of the expensive cars that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   overstatement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   so the next thing we did was a cornering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   lesson which taught us about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   where is the where is the apex where do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   you corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   how do you leave a corner how to enter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   it was a lot about that there were a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   things that i took from the course which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   were very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   firstly it was that the apex is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   further towards the back of the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   than I would have expected did you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   feel the same way or did you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   this was the way things were I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:55   hey a dog had never really thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   it in quite those terms but i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   was interesting all the corners are laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00   out with cones essentially to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   help teach you exactly what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   looking for and it was definitely i took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   a lot of practice to turn your my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   instinct is honest you're awesome you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10   also fighting years and years of teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   of driving in the normal manner where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:16   you're accelerating slowly breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17   slowly and turning gently and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   teaching yourself that you can turn in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   much much much later than you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   would normally and me and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   actually the better line if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   trying to go around quickly i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   very interesting to kind of experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   and see the way that idea definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   wouldn't have guessed that that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   you know that's how you take a corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   that late and that sharply marcos played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39   racing games on video games right of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   either you two played racing games mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   kart haha not really a simulation level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:48   i have played a little bit of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:51   trees on my day but not a lot and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   seriously enough to really discover what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   the proper line through return is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   I mean John did you do you feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   know the proper lines return because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:01   thought i did and I clearly did not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   don't like the simulation game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06   but believe it I although I just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   you know America is not really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   accurate simulation you you do learn one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   thing you learned Mary car because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13   the massive rubber banding from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   enemies like they that people on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   rubber banding is that means they if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   play very well may I plays very well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:23   know to catch up to you to know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:24   never leave them behind entirely right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   so it comes down and things like wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   race and stuff like that he's arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:29   type racers that I've no no relation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   real driving the one thing they do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   in common is that you do eventually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   to learn what the fastest line to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   turn is because the only thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   separating you from the relentless AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   it's always going to be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   right on your butt is that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45   take the fastest line to the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46   because once you get the AI cranked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   to that in a really high level if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   make even the smallest mistake and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   like a little bit wide or leave a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53   bit room or don't hit the apex or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:56   know don't hit the power-ups and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   other crazy things maybe they'll punish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   you and you lose the race so if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00   into American American targets humans or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   are the computer you will eventually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   that kind of punishing racing type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   experience of like that term is fine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   just missed it by just like that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   and now you're in second place and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   you eventually learn yet where the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   is of course but you don't learn is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   would be in a real car to break that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   amount and how much you have to apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   pressure to pedals they need to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   buttons or whatever but the lines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   kind of similar although in a racing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   game with weapons like mario kart or my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   first game of Wipeout getting back on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   straight line after return and being as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:32   straight as possible for as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:33   possible is actually a terrible idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   then people can hit you with green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36   shells were behind ya like America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   that's a strange dynamic we're sliding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   sideways makes you go faster which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   silly and an unrealistic but it sliding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:45   sideways takes away some control from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   your steering because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   first you have to it initiate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   sideways slide and then you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   control the slide and in that respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   it's similar to what i imagine driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   would be like is that to you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   you to hit that line to hit the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   perfectly and to get your speed match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   and everything it's not as simple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   like dododo kind of roll through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   turnover ever yet they then you at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   line but you won't be going fast to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   fast and hit the turn of the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   is very difficult you don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   kind of control you have if you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   would have your point into a parking lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   or a parking spot or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   you have so many things are going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17   with the car that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18   it's not so easy to just point the card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   line sure you're gonna have to sling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   car and hope your you know everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   alright so you're gonna hit that apex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   and if your office all you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   stare back and get it because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29   if you trace your line on the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:30   you'll be strange wiggles and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   will go bad for you and you'll end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:33   along the grass and bad things i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:37   tell you though that I can drift like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   champion in Mario Kart and I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   drift like a champion in real life as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   that found out but I'm with you so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47   I think I think with two days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   instruction we all combined got maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:52   ten straight seconds of drifting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:56   probably true and i was looking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   my footage which we'll get to in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   moment in in the m5 on the second day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   actually got a couple of decent trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   but i wouldn't say they were good drifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   but yeah so so on day one in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:11   the second thing we did was cornering a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   course where we learned about the apex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   we learned how did that they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   stressed looking where the car where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:22   want the car to go not where the car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   and that sounds really simple and silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   but man I don't know about you two but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   it was hard for me and it took me until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32   the afternoon at the earliest for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   to really click and for me to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   that if I'm trying to hit an apex where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   they pretty much tell you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   everything but run over the cone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   they put on the apex is an indicator of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   where it is it's very hard not to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   at that and prevent yourself from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   hitting it and instead look further down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   the road and just have faith that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   hands will figure out where to point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   car and eventually if I forced myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:01   do that to look down the road and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   have faith in my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   it actually really does work but man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   a counterintuitive with everything I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   learned and Marco did you feel the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   way or was this like second nature for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:12   oh definitely I mean you know like David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   said earlier a lot of a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   difficulty and in doing this well was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   over right in your instincts of normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:23   driving because you know they they teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   and i don't i'm not an expert enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   know whether this is you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   universal this is but they teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:31   something called threshold break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:32   can which is you basically accelerate as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   hard as you can during the straightaways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   and then at the last possible second you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   brake as hard as you can before you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   to look yourself down to whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   need to be and so it's just extreme like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   heart but the hundreds on acceleration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   two hundred percent breaking and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   you turn and and you you turn in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   that like you start out really wide on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   the turn and he like cut in and hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   apex and the like smooth your way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   and it makes sense why you do that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   explain why you do that but because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   is so unlike normal driving I it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:09   very it was very hard to to get like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   it never became that instinctual I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:16   it I'd like think about every move like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   okay hit that apex go to the turnout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   like I had to like it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   emulations of had like think about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   instruction i was doing he never became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27   like a fluid thing for me and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   I'm sure that if I did this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   frequently maybe it would be but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   thing I thought was very interesting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   on the last day the main instructor had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   said that any structures are all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   you know racing drivers who are have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   often you know Ben pros or were pros for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   many years are still are pros and done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   lots of racing and and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   instructor said that even still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53   when he's gonna need it does a long race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   sometimes he'll get tired and he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   start and he'll start forgetting to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   look way ahead and and you know start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   forgetting some of the technique and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   start reverting back to automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   driving behavior for everyday use and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   starts doing very badly and he so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   this instructor has been doing this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   years and years and years and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   professionally even he can revert back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:17   to non ideal behavior because these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   against your instincts they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   themselves driving to work like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   going to work now what's going on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:27   is that when you're driving your car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:28   something that you don't play that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   going so they find out you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:31   maybe maybe not Marco yeah don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34   work that can drive to the store drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   to a friends house I do that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   time maybe some i'm walking around my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   house and I accidentally walk into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43   haha but you know it's like when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   driving driving my kids to one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   activities or something i realize i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   i'm on my way to work I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   no this is not where the activity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   stopped going to work on autopilot John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   as someone who actually has a j.o.b job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   i totally understand what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59   don't listen to these two did they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   the breaking points marked out on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   track for you in the beginning like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   big big cone the whole time they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   cones on for every every time there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   like a point we get them to get enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   speed for you had to plan on the brakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   they would have liked 321 cones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:16   this like first of three then two than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:17   one to tell you like you should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   break you know in this range and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22   figure out for yourself you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23   you want to break out the 30 the 20 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   whatever and at every turn had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   return in the apex end-to-end the track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   out all all marked with cone so every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   turn was coned the whole time so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   really it was not about you figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   what the best way through this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   they know that we're all amateurs only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   there for two days you know how much how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   much figure out can we do in two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   with are you know first time on tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   they but so it was really more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:49   technique and just like and learning for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   the very first time like oh this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   you drive and track which is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   like driving in the real world so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   did a time your laps some of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59   some instances you have to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   that the BMW Performance Center which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   the track at the BMW factory it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:09   pretty big track by my measure which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   to say the only tracks have been honor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   this and the Nurburgring it's nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   near the Nurburgring but as what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   envisioned as a track it was fairly big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   and over the course of the two days we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21   were there were three groups of five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   like i mentioned earlier all operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   on different subsections of the track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   and it wasn't until the afternoon of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   second day that they kind of linked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   entire track together to build one major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:36   track for lack of a better word I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   know how else to describe it so it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   example on the I'm gonna call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   western half and may not have actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   been the western half that's where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   skid pad was and that's where this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   sweeping corner was which they call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   man turn her man curve that's their name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   not our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:55   and then on the eastern side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   track is where they initially set up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   slalom which was on monday afternoon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:04   and there were there was a corkscrew as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   well that we encountered either monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08   afternoon or tuesday morning and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   wasn't until this end of the second day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   that they kind of link the corkscrew in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   the slalom and the man turned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   skidpad all together to make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   tremendous track and man that was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   but I'm getting ahead of myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   alright so monday morning we did skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28   had weed cornering we did handling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   then we had lunch then lunch was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   but I'm remarkable and I do feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   because I don't want to leave this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   there were like six instructors for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   total of fifteen people and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   happened was we would we would have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   instructor to with us for any given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   event if you will and they would give us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   walkie-talkies which I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   transmitted but the point was not for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   to talk back to them but for them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   able to tell us what are we doing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   what are we doing wrong and I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   want to make it clear that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   instructors like marco was saying were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   on believably patient and unbelievably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:06   good and it wasn't until the very last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   event of the second day that we realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   how good they really were but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   all incredibly incredibly good and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:15   were various ages and all of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:18   very different and have very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   styles and very and they were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   different but all of them consistently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   were patient and courteous and kind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   I i really think without that group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   instructors this experience would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   been totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31   it's very clear that to be an instructor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:34   at this place like they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   it isn't just like well you can drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   okay you're in like obviously these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   instructors reader-writer picked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   having these qualities or are trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   extremely well and really pick it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   have a knack for it for it for being not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51   only able to to drive cars well but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54   to explain and be patient with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   and teach them how to do it and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   that's a skill you know being a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02   teacher is a very valuable skill that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   it does not come naturally to too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   people and the these people all had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   and they were really good yesterday what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   did you think about the instructors as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   someone who was and i know you touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   on this earlier but as someone who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   not terribly confident about what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   getting yourself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   I mean do you feel like they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22   difference for you yeah i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   the interesting part of course is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   the a ballot definitely oscillated a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   little bit between the times that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   were you know these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   encouragement and at the other times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   when it felt like they're asking me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   do something that I couldn't do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   number of times i heard things like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   like it's like more speed Dave more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   speed more speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   you're not going fast enough for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   rest of course more amusing one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   you're in the wrong gear which is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   because i was driving an automatic mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   so that was nothing I could do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   I can't like that if you could hear what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   I'm saying in the car i'm just yelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   back at them it's like I know but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   can't fix it so there's definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   sort of oscillates between those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   of their telling you it's like at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   point it gets its encourage great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   weather and telling you both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   this is like this is what you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08   doing this is what you should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   at some point you're like that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   you can do it and then every now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   then they'll do something that's ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13   to do something a little bit beyond what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   you can do and you're like I got nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   like I that I appreciate what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   saying but you know i just i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   don't think i dont the confidence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   skill to be able to accomplish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   so monday afternoon we started with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28   m5 in a timed handling course and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:33   way this worked was we had half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   skidpad that we used in the morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   it was still wet so if that skip has big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41   circle we add a half circle so under yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   800 degrees to skip and it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   getting soaked and the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   course was a regular road course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   including some fairly fast fits and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:54   was funny because in the classroom right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   after launch on monday afternoon they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   said to us a listen when you go in do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:02   the big time lapse in the m5 you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   understand the m5 has what 550 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   horsepower and lex to 560 horsepower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:11   a million torques from 0 RPM and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15   though you will come off the skidpad on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   to drive pavement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   things may look dry but the reality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   the situation is your rear well all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   wheels but particular rear wheels will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   still be wet and one of the analogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   that Donnie the head instructor used was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   imagine that there were that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33   string tied to the bottom of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   steering wheel to the top of your right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   foot so if you turn the wheel either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   direction that string is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41   taught it's going to force you to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   going to pull your foot off the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   pedal and then as you bring the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   back to Center that string will have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   little more loot will have a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   slack and you can get back on the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   and so what they said was listen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   they said this several times you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   need to be careful coming off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   skidpad because even when you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   pavement that looks dry it it may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   as dry as you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   furthermore as everyone is doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   course all five of you are doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   course and then the other two groups of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   five either before or after you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   water that's only on the skid pad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   going to get spread out so that in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   we took our m5's onto this course and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26   should note that i believe on Monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   Marco what color was your m5 I i forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:32   it must have been with a good color like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   black or maybe the orange of the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   Dave do you remember what color markers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   and five was I actually do I was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39   behind him the whole time I believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   was you know I thought it was white as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   well and you know kids if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   think harm is real whether or not you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   religious whether or not you believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   such hocus-pocus karma is real because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   Marco for most of the two days had white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   m cars and i can tell you nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:59   this trip made me happier than Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   being in white cars pretty much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   whole time it was fantastic and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:07   remember we're talking about i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:08   you don't lock it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   nah it wasn't white on the inside right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   Marco no not at all it was it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:14   and black on the inside and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:15   part i saw yeah that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   so anyway so we do this in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   of monday afternoon again we split up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24   into three groups of three we all do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   different things but we ended up on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   big lap first and so I don't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   exactly how many laps of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   that I'd done a lot you know it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   was a few it was towards the end I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36   but I come off the skidpad in the m5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:41   i feel i'm feeling pretty confident and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   if you as you come off the skidpad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   make a very slight right turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   there's a very small straightaway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   then there's a 90-degree right into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   90-degree left so it's an extern I come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53   off the skid pad and I get onto the dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   pavement and I think to myself self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   you're in the dry pavement now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   give her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:01   you can give her some boob but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   what you can do you know what stop here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   give her some boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   yes do you not want to talk to you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08   on I i can drop the hammer don't call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   the trunk they call the boot yeah anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   that's what being the point being i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   stand on the gas is that better for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   anyway so I come off the skidpad i'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:20   dry pavement or so I think and my tires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:24   are dry or so i think and i get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:28   gas a little too hard and a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31   aggressively and next thing i know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34   front of the car is pointed at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   90-degree angle to the road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39   following that just a mere moment later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   the next thing i know i am now in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   grass and doing a 360 in the grass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:49   what I haven't mentioned yet is that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   the lunch they have right after lunch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   Monday they came around with em badged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   USB keys which ended up in eight gig USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   keys and they said hey listen we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   this magical slumbered telemetry box in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   the trunk of every car and we have a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   extension cord receptacle running into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11   the center console of every car as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   get into each car plug this magical USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17   key into the magical USB receptacle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   you'll notice that there is a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   pointed forward to see out the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   window and there's a camera on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   a-pillar on the passenger side pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   at you and what ended up happening was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   they these magical telemetry boxes would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   record the two videos as well symmetry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   for what you're doing on to this USB key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   and so I video which will put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   show notes assuming we have to post this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   of me spinning out in somebody else's f [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:46   I've been going into the grass and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   really funny part of this is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50   after I spin out and at the very end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   the video because the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:52   automatically stop when the car stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   you hear everything and that's the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2634">TS</a>]

00:44:05   of the video so i think of both days if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:09   i'm not mistaken was I the only person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   that went off the track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   yeah i was gonna ask you how many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:13   people went to the grass and I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   i believe i was the only one there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   a lot of close to home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   that's what i believe i was the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   you know if if you if you didn't go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   the grass that probably means you aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:23   driving hard to thank you John you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   like everything like the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   you're trying to do in this in this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   know learning how to drive like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   racecar whatever is it you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:31   always going to feel like you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32   to turn too fast you're always going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   feel like there's not enough room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:34   break you know what I mean anyway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   like what you're trying to work your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   up to is the point where you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   don't believe you're not yourself enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   room to break and you really do end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41   you know under staring into the grass so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   you really do put out a hit on the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   too much coming out of turn and end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   spinning it around so I think Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   should wear his lawn mowing adventure as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   a badge of honor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   now that would make that's a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   point John that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55   yeah maybe Casey was actually driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   the fastest so Casey how did you do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   the lap times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:01   well I don't believe what do we ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   hear times from this we did here x later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   and I know what you're driving at but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   don't know that we ever heard times from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   this so let me let me come back that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   not gonna dodge sure let's come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   that but suffice to say one way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:16   another i believe of the two days I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   the only one who went off and when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   got back to the paddock or pit or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   whatever you'd like to call it i did all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   of us got out of the cars and Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   walked up to me and Dave do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:27   exactly what you said hey I just remarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30   and how I was kind of impressed that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   found some time to do some gardening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   the middle of our intensive driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34   directly when we get back and we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37   you know we didn't know until we got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   the cars because Dave and I were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   within visible distance of seeing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   we didn't know who we know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   caused us to off to stop for for like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   seconds while they figure it out and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50   we got in the car and both of our cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   are nice and clean look at caseys it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   covered in dirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   what I was not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58   Casey I'm grasping his teeth and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   surprisingly nor did I have any in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04   front grille but yes I was the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   achieved going off track for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   two days now there were some very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   calls from others and unfortunately none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   of those people are Marco or Dave but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   there were some very close calls however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   I was the only one who actually achieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   going off the track and doing a spot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   gardening but that's ok so tuesday or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26   excuse me monday afternoon we continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   by doing another slalom and therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:31   it's actually I'm sorry was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32   course I think this is what marco was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33   referring to the next thing we did was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   we took the m3's into this time course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   we did a slalom then we did this hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   break into a box that was as wide as 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:44   or 3 m3 is but only as deep as about 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   m3 and the mission here was to stop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:50   the box and do the entire course as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   quickly as possible and if you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:56   outside of the box either because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   stopped his 22 sooner you stop too late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   then they would add time to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03   official time so i think was a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   second penalty if you stopped too soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   or too late and marcos driving at is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   despite the fact that i tried to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:12   the doors off of this m3 i do believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:15   Marco beat me by like five tenths of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:19   second five hundreds of the second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20   of the other is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   it was very close i mean the funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   was there was there were a few events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   where the instructors time to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   and and then David they posted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   results in a little sheet you could look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   at lunch you could look at and and none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   of us were spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   the funny thing was between the three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   us you know we were driving very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   Casey was was you know pretty good i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:45   sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:45   Casey was consistent I was not I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   some laps that beat him but I never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   like you know a full eventbrite where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   beat him by a notable amount and dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   was driving like a corolla owner haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   and yet the three of us all had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   extremely similar times like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   that was one of the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   information about this to me is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   felt like you you feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   driving very differently out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11   then you get back into co well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:12   there's actually a lot of ways to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   this and like if you start getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   sloppy and started like you know losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   control here and there and kicking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   butt out here and there for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   little like quarter of a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   it's really not faster and the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:25   way through the course is like the clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   technique way and so the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:31   like we felt very different driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   things but we were actually doing almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   identically Dave were you there when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   Derek was talking to us about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   do you remember what he said everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   he was talking a lot about how many used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   is the broader lesson that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   there's a lot of people come out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   something like this and they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   they're just like they think they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   what they're doing or they're just over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   overconfident and kind of a overly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:55   aggressive and they be attacking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:58   course with just you know the throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   power at the problem i guess like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   is trying to as as much as they can kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05   of brute force the the solution to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   and so they're like as hard and the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   throwing the car around and not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   controlled are clean and there we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   someone who's a bit more like me which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16   can't say like I hit all the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   perfectly but I was typically going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   slower and so I have much more time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   get my lines tidy and get and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   make fewer mistakes and try and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28   things a bit more textbook if not a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   slower but the reality is those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   things there's sort of this curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   between where there is what i'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37   on one sort of side of the bell curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38   and then it kind of peeks up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   absence of the optimal car control we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   should be its beer both technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   correct as well as quick and then starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   to just slide off on the other side just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   just just as deeply and you start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   overly powered overly sloppy and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   types of things and then the end up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   exactly the same . that your dry anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   we think we saw this little bit in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:00   of the telemetry things where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   your I think Casey especially you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   on the throttle hundred percent like get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   your flight pedal pedal all the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09   far more than I ever was but the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   time doesn't it we know is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   marginally different because at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16   because you're as a result of doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   you're having to throw the car around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   lot more in ways that aren't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:22   yeah it's not even so much i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   maximum power is that if you are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   aggressive and driving you know like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   like a butthead you're probably over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   break probably over-braking to so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   you build a ball that speed and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   you're like whoa whoa you scrub it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35   but now you're going too slow as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   gotta push back on the speed and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   you know you thats you're killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   yourself by going too fast too slow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   fast was looking at a slowing and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   could just taking the average of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   speed and going around the course like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46   Dave you would have a similar time what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   you want to go is too fast and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   barely slowed enough not to off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   course and fasting right exactly and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   of the exercises actually what I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   this is skipping ahead sorry is a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   they do a a two-car race called the rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:02   race on on a figure eight shape skidpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:05   actually that's next I'll good the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   is or was it wasn't on the figure eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   is on the same course but it wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   figure-eight was just a big oval right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   guess they figure it would be dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14   should be crashing that's it was an oval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   and the idea was the cars start at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:20   opposite points of the Oval pointed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   know in the same direction like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:24   everyone's going going counterclockwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25   and you and you try to catch up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   other car so you have to like gain a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   half a lap on them basically and it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32   a skidpad and you're in we were we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   it in m6's so it's you know massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   power rear wheel drive car with traction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   control to totally off on a skidpad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:42   it's actually an exercise in control and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:46   consistency because you have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   space to get some speed going in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   straight line for a second then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   to immediately slow down and be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   turn without spinning out and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   really interesting exercise because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   you again like you would think that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:01   if you can like power slide around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   they'll get in front no actually that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   not the fastest way around and so we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   get to the skidpad to do this event and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   we first do a couple of practice laps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   the practice last for me in kc at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   and right and i think that's right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   and so we get on there and the first was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20   me and Dave and I i beat dave after five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:24   or six laps I was like I was like a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   lengths ahead it wasn't a half a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   length and it wasn't a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   but I was I was ahead so I want then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32   they brought Casey on to do a practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   lap against me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   and he just kicked my butt are you sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   I thought you'd be I thought you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   beat me on that problem the practice lab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40   nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:41   so what happened what is so you beat me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   on the practice lap and then and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   neutral like all right now what will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   start for real case you can stay out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   there and we'll have one you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   know add the next person whoever wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52   gets to stay and we'll see who's left at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   the end so first up they put they put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3174">TS</a>]

00:53:00   you know the the rest of the people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   there are five people in groups they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   on for those i was last Casey beat every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   single one of them he said he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   master at this weird like skidpad race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11   just like just just don't mess up just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   stay consistent and just don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   sloppy and I got on there i was the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:20   last person left at the end and I get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   there and I was getting sloppy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   he was gaining on me and and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   time you're hearing from the structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28   of the radio you're hearing alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   cases now have Carla head cases that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   calling the head so you hearing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   you're doing and so my instinct to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:37   overcome that and try to try to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   regain the the loss was to go faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:43   to get sloppier which is exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   you shouldn't do and eventually then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   Casey kicked my butt too and this it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:52   it was a very very clear and strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   victory and it was interesting how like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   not only was Casey good at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   while driving a white car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   I believe you are you were in the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   one this at this point yeah not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   were you good at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   driving a white car that was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   manual but it was a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   exercise in like trying to get faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11   actually made me slower should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   fired a green shell backwards haha i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:17   got a lot of people still know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18   do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   I knew you could do that come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   everybody everybody knows you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   everyone is good news you know the funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   thing is is that to be honest I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   easily three of the four victories were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   because the proponent just got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31   overzealous and spun out and I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   funny being all smug about that after i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:35   just told you I went off in the grass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   and I was the only one who did so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   believe it or not it was just me lasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42   long enough not to be the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   that's been out that I think I got most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   of my victories and Marco I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   believe you had spun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49   I didn't spin but i can't I I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   had a lot of oversteer towards the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52   when I was trying to catch up so i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   slowed down a lot right but the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   the day really my victory was more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   me just not screwing up first then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01   was about me having any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   technical skill well exactly like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   what Dave was saying landed what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:06   with saying that that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   succeeds in this kind of environment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   like just just be just drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   consistently and not crazily and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   do pretty well because you try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   crazy you start losing control and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   losing time so that was day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:23   Dave any other thoughts on day one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   other thing that we did there was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   of fun as you j-turns which is just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   of uh yes that was a lot of it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31   complete is the cat it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   skills that I hope desperately that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   never need an actual life where i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   to you know put my car around when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   being chased by bad guys or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   but there's a lot of fun did to take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   know to take taking m3 and spin it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   around is definitely the fastest i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   any less of her driven in reverse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   maybe then we look this up before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   something about how the BMW's don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   the dog tooth gears and reverse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   will make that terrible wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   yes I think we talked about this on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   regular series of natural butter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   yeah so in case you don't know what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01   j-turn is basically the moral of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   story is you you do about 30 miles an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   hour backwards and again the key is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:07   we were on a skidpad here and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08   case we're in m3 is not the m6 as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   were talking about earlier and you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   believe we were in threes when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   just for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:16   ok so we were in an m3 where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19   instructor bottom three out to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   course and we were all on him sixes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   we got the instructors and three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   he's in the passenger seat and we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   the driver's seat many says right here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   what's gonna happen you're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   to the edge of the skidpad almost in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   grass you're going to go as quickly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   you can reverse without skidding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   when I tell you to you're gonna whip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39   wheel to the left the left to the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   remember that Marcos the yes yes Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:44   is the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:45   no no not your other left the left it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   was confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   uh-huh so anyway so you you whip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   wheel to the left and he will operate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   the gearshift all you have to do is whip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   that wheel to left like your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   depends on it and every single one of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01   all five of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:02   were able to to bang out a j-turn with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   some amount of skill which of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   really amounted to just us listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   the instructor and turning left or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   marcos case occasionally right when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   told us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:15   so what were they doing with the shifter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   putting you back in to drive i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18   they were flipping into neutral so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   idea is you go really fast backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   u-turn really hard to the but spins out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   in the car just basically spins out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:28   that it points to self forward and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   inertia will keep carrying it forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   slightly after you're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   so all you have to do is right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   you turn is just disengage a reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38   gear so that it doesn't start fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   against the inertia wonder what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   wouldn't give for a clutch in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   situation right Casey omn brother but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   you know it is what it is and so we was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48   it was very cool though and we were able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   to once Marco realized which direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   was left even he was able to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   the instructor and bang out a j-turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   which I gotta say was a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:01   amount of fun so Dave I'm glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:02   brought that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:02   what why did they tell you why they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   you to steer to the left to do it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   opposed to the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:07   oh yeah well because if you turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   other direction and you didn't stop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   would hit the spectators right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   so it's not the left or right is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   important it just so happens that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   were in the car as you were backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   all the spectators were to your right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   and so the idea is you whip the car to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26   the left so that if you just like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   said if you fly you know 20 30 feet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:32   the direction of perpendicular to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   you were originally going then at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   you would drive into nothingness as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   opposed to driving into your newfound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   friends there's nothing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   dynamics of the cars just has to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   people where the people were correct you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   can do in both directions i was confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   and eventually migrated which way do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   want the butt of the car . i will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   it do that now you're remapping theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   stop left Martin turned left into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   gas station because you're when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   virtually wait to turn the wheel what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   direction it was just just tell me where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   the quarter . i'll do that as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   soon as he did that and that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03   thought about it was perfect right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   after that that was the end of day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   and then and at the BMW facility they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   served us a nice german me love was its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:12   bachelor shits schnitzel i always get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:14   I don't think we're even qualified to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   say it was good Adam it was German the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:18   schnitzel because it didn't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   had special is like a little like up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   drops of pasta looking stuff whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25   missile is the breaded meet i think not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   every every Germans in the chat room who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   cannot real-time correct us in that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   ocean solution its soul in two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   kinds of sausages and sauerkraut and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   was very it was very very good and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   had they had an open bar with beer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:41   I choke down because I'm not a beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   drinker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:43   oh you volunteered to to have a beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46   desperate times call for desperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47   measures Marco there were other options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   and you volunteer to have a beer it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52   wine or Die cokin as much as I love me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   dyke okay that could add a water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   sprite they had sprite edster they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   didn't write the hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   didn't write the hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   what are you doing that John you missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   out you really missed out anyway what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05   very good dinner and we all got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   socializing was really nice all jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   aside was really nice about the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11   experience was that everyone that we met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:14   all 15 people and the five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   instructors so call it all 20 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   they were all incredibly incredibly nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21   and some of them were very very quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   well obviously the instructors were but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   even the the students some of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   very quick and some of the morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   they were all extremely nice and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   was a dad and a son that was there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   was a mother-daughter that were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:36   and all of them every single person was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   extremely nice it was really easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   socialize with everyone there were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42   couple other m5 owners and and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   don't mean this to be passive-aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   towards Marco but you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   assumption is if you can afford a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   like an m5 you might look down your nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   at anyone who can't afford a car like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   m5 and none of them were like that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57   all they were all extremely nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   extremely approachable and none of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   cars will bite and none of the cars were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   white which is why they were extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   not just kidding but it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   really incredible and so after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   dinner we were brought back to the hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   we were able to stay up if we wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   but at this point we were all exhausted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   so we crashed pretty early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   everyone quick noses and say about day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   one is that you can do it as a day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   and it is a one day or two day course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   and i think it was interesting having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   doing the two day course in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   you do the whole one day course i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   say if this is if you're someone listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   to this you would actually consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   going to this but for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33   could only do the one day like the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   day was different to say worse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   worth it but the one day if you did just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   the one day it would have been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41   amazing trip still like you could it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44   would take at the end of the first day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:45   it felt very satisfying very worthwhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   and very useful like the second is built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51   on top of that you'd agree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   yeah i would say that day one was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   of theory and granted there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   application don't get me wrong but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   feel like day one was more about Theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   where is day two was more was less about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   theory more about application which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   about to get into but just like Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   said I if if for whatever reason you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   only swing a one day course be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   because the time or because of finance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   whatever it's still worth it was still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   tremendous tremendous amount of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17   yeah after the one day all three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   said to each other like if that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   we'd be very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:22   yeah absolutely so anyway so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25   getting into day-to-day to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   essentially the application of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   the basic skills and things that we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   learned today before and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32   essentially just mostly just building up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   towards being confident enough to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   what I just started calling their bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   their power lap or whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   call it but it's the the full course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   from end to end which is essentially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:46   the morning what we did is we split that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:47   Chris put the course down into two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   sections one of them sort of a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   speed course they have one more kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   handling course and so we start off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:56   the morning doing what they refer to as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   their main corner which is this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   sort of long gradual sweeping corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   that you can take at relatively high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   speed and is a sort of you know it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:09   its it served it's a hairpin turn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   that you're you're going in one way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:12   coming out the complete opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   direction but it's over such a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   distance that you can carry a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   amount of speed through it and so most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18   of it was just trying to get confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   it it would the hardest part of this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   me on that is looking at a corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26   going into a corner at don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   it was 50 miles an hour and then turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   your car and having that not feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   completely insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   you're exactly right in with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   corner was so big again it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:38   hundred eighty degree turn but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   radius of this half circle was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   tremendous and so it was long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   that they basically told you split this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   into two different corners and what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   had to do was grab one apex early on fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   out to the outside part in order to prep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55   to get into the second apex and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   coming out of the second apex you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   got hard on the gas hard on the gas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   then like Marco talked about quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:02   while ago you stand on the break in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:05   order to get to get this s turn out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   the way and it was it was incredible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   one of the things that I learned during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   this course ordering that during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   two-day am school is that even in a BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   M car brake fade is a real thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:21   don't know if you guys noticed this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:22   particularly in the m5 I think I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25   that the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:26   and the m6 was not a lot better after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   while you would stand on the brake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31   things that were stopping quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   suddenly weren't stopping quite so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36   quickly then I have carbon ceramic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   brakes on the m5 not only is no although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   i award you five bonus points for asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   and asking the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43   no none of them at carbon ceramic brakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   however all of the cars every single one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   of them really well appointed really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50   really well appointed like some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   had the how much is the Bang & Olufsen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   stereo Marco on the m5 3700 dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:57   right and so half the m5 had this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   ridiculous Bang & Olufsen stereo that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01   don't think any of us turned on not once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03   actually I try to just get the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:04   little speaker elevate up in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   in the center console but yeah it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:09   they and they had night vision they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   a few of them had like all these crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12   options that like there's really not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15   lot of reason for for a car that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   spend the first half or so of its life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   on a racetrack being thrown around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23   the radio off there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   reason for you to have these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:26   thousands of dollars of options on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   but for whatever reason they did I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   know what what I guess it's because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   do eventually auction these off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   resell them and we talked to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   instructors about this briefly and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   said we don't know if the deals on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   cars are any good or not and yes as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   as they know they do have to disclose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   exactly how these cars started their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   lives but also consider for what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   worth that these cars get oil changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   constantly they get break changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   constantly and when I say break changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   i don't just mean pads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   I mean they get brake fluid changes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   get rotor changes to get pad changes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   the time and in fact every time these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   cars leave the BMW Performance Center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   which they do occasionally to go to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   road atlanta or vir for event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   apparently they basically got the darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   things and put all sorts of new bits on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   them so that when they're off site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   they're pretty much guaranteed to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18   is not right is that what you guys heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   that is what they said tip so yes so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   was I don't know I digress but it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   very interesting little story so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   they've said we start out the man corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   and that was a lot about learning how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32   take a very high speed constant radius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35   turn as well as how to do what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   called a compromise corner which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   is to say an S turn so you have a corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42   where you want to come into the apex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   late but if you do that set you up very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:47   poorly for the second corner so on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   first corner you actually want to apex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:50   early in order to better set yourself up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53   for a second corner that was in the m5 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   did not go off the track on that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   after that we took the m6 on a handling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   course which included a corkscrew and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   I've never been to laguna seca but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:04   what the pictures and videos I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   of laguna seca and made me think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   laguna seca as quarks or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   call it a when we did that and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14   odd that was incredibly scary incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   thrilling but incredibly scary because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   as you're going down this hill there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:22   kind of a mini s turn on the hill itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   and that's the corkscrew and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   see a thing when you crest the top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:31   and . yourself down the hill and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:34   they say you know once you get yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   lined up appropriately you can stand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   the gas even an m6 which again is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:42   little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43   oh my i would actually argue overpowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   and so for me I felt like it all my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:49   it was so scary doing that because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   just have to go on faith that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   going to screw up and especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:54   first time but even other times it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   scary like I'm curious to hear both mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:59   when Dave and let's start with Marco did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   you find that to be petrifying or door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   what am I the only one I was pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   petrified whenever I was driving the m6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:07   yeah I would agree with that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   and and at um we we talked about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:12   we do this episode we talked about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:13   can we make this interesting to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16   people than just potential or current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   BMW M car owners and so we promised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:21   myself I wouldn't get too much into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   details of the particular models because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26   who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   although we all agreed the m3 is by far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   the best track car at least the most fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   but I was confident in the m5 because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   at least Drive one so I know how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:37   feels and iikind of respect the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:41   of power it has I know how it comes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   and so I know how not to overdo it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   the m6 is in many ways the same car same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:49   engine you know same thing saved same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   drivetrain it is a very very similar car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   but because it's unfamiliar to me and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:58   also has terrible visibility is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:02   basically i was i was a lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   confident X because it even though I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   familiar with how the engine responds I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08   was not familiar with have a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   responds and the within the m6 I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:14   closest to losing control during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   during the course and i also almost plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:19   over some cones missed a few turns in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   the m6 whereas the in the m3 and m5 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   never had that that never had those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24   problems so so Dave what did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   of the three colors very briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   particularly particularly the m6 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:32   generally is like the server boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:33   opinion in that i think the the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   was is felt much more in I felt much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:39   more in control in the three and that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   fits ability to its power and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:45   agility seemed well matched it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   I was playing some RPG and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   rolling dice it's like he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   well-balanced that's not hard to both in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   terms of you know its power match very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   well with its agility whereas he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   you start to get higher up if they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01   to get very out of whack and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:02   especially in the six where it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:05   your kind of steering with a rudder but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   it's got this huge engine on it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   just didn't turn in the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   would necessarily wanted to and the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   was a bit of a balance between that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   it was had a lot of power but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   could still had reasonable handling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   then the six it just felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:20   real it is for me it was very mismatched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   in that way and it was just an which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   made it very awkward to serve to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:28   like you're actually in control of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:29   rather than it just kind of going where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   it's wanting is it's good it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   go where it's going to go and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34   just kind of making your requests to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   and hoping that it he is 270 degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   with you I felt like the m3 it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   have used to smidge more power but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   generally speaking Dave hit spot on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   was the right amount of power for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:47   right amount of agility i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   Marco that the m5 well it still felt a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:53   little imbalanced by and large it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   still within reason the right amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   power for the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:58   amount of chassis whereas the m6 I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   was way too much power and nowhere near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03   enough chassis and I never thought in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   million years that I would ever say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   because as much as we joke during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   first season of neutral and perhaps only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   seasonal neutral that we are all james [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   may I think i have very Clarkson healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:15   tendencies and I tend to like power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:18   power power in the m6 just had way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   much power in in not enough chassis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   behind it so I'm very surprised I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25   surprised it's the same chassis as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   m5 though so what do you mean when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   say that not enough chassis like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31   the power putting the car out of kilter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:32   was like yes but absolutely all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35   from weight on one side of the car to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   the other was it you know on paper i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39   would assume that I am dead wrong that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42   the m5 m6 should have behaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   approximately the same i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   the wheelbase is a different length i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47   don't know if it's the weights very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   different but regardless or maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:52   the suspension of Sam McGee was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:53   mentioning in the chat but one way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:54   another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:55   something was off about the m6 or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:58   it's just that I didn't agree with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   m6 where's the m5 it felt very heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:02   it felt like it resisted a direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   change but it would go with it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   like all right fine if you really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:09   me to go left with a quickness I'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   left with well okay fine I'll go right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   with the quickness but she's which give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   me a chance to breathe or cm6 if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   wanted to go left and then right with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:18   quickness you were probably going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   going left then right and then back a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   hundred eighty degree or 36 degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   around because you're about to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:25   yourself in a spin but it may have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   been too much car for you you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:28   know you might be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   the big sedan is like kind of slowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:31   things down to the point it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   like you know jet fighter planes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   designed to be intentionally unstable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   they can change direction quickly but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38   you know if you if you go yanks you left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   me after the right then you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:41   yourself having to correct again because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42   now you've gone too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   it you'd find another two or three weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   and maybe you change your opinion on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:47   m6 you're probably right and i have bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:50   you anything that that's a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:51   very good . but whatever the reason was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54   I felt like the m6 was was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   sketchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:57   I think it's worth noting that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   instructors all agreed people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   this all the time and have big racing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   experience they all agreed that the m3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   was that was the most fun track car but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   they also all agreed the m5 was was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   one that they would pick to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:11   you like a a major thing like it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   major time lap and the instructors all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:16   seem to prefer the m34 fun and the m54 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:20   high-performance I don't think anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:22   claim to prefer the m6 for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   no not at all but that said I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   should probably leave this topic that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:27   too specific and who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:28   exactly so in the morning of day two we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:32   talked about the man corner then we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:33   the handling course with the corkscrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   which we just talked about and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   all of us enjoyed that although II each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:40   of us had a different amount of motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   sickness that the summation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43   handling course the m6 i think i might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:46   have done the best of all of us but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   certainly was feeling a little bit at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   the end of it because the course was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:51   very short and it was a lot of twisting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:53   and turning and height changes in height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:55   changes very much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   so then in the end the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:58   morning of day two we then took the m3's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   back to the big ovular skid pad and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:04   figure eights and power drifts and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:08   don't have a whole lot to say about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   i don't know if you guys do but it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:11   lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   yeah i mean that's I don't actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   a whole lot to say about day two at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   just because it was just like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   here's most of you learn day one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:20   more of it and you have more time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   track to to drive and like that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   introverted like they know we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   their driving the tractor they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:27   spend a lot of time with like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   instruction you either either in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   classroom or otherwise like it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   just like we may want to get you on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   track and get you as much driving time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:36   as possible and and I respect that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:39   now so yeah day two is really just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:40   whole lot of driving more on the track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   and it was exhausting but it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46   yeah and in the best part of day to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   was the vet for us the very beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:52   the afternoon and what they didn't as up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   in eluding to all this entire show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   they took the entire track and they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59   it all together made one massive track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   over when I say the portal together what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:02   I mean is they took out there there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   they would obstruct us with cones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   Intel us to you know make rights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   make left's to prevent us from going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   down the entire big track and in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   of the second day they took away all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:14   those cones and basically said have fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:15   and it was still track there there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   still obstructions there but by and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   large it was this it was humongous track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   and they just said have fun and so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   our group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:24   we started the day and it started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:27   afternoon rather in m3 and I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:31   terribly good driver as I learned over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   the over those two days and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   learned at the end of day two but I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:38   you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:39   at the beginning of the afternoon of day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   to when we were in the m3's doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   power lap I felt more dialed-in in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:47   m3 then I did the rest of the time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:51   any car now of course of course some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   that comes down to the m3 being the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   generation is my 335 and so of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:58   feel most acclimated to that car because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:01   its most similar to what i drive every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:02   day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   that being said there I had such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:07   unbelievably good time driving that m3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   with a quickness trying to drive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:12   doors off of it around this humongous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:15   track in all my goodness it was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   fun and i'll give mark on David chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   to throw in their two cents but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:20   the m3 we did the m6 on the same lab and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:24   another group took the m3 is over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   then finally at the end of day two we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   took the m5 into that same figure 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:31   course and just did some drifts in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33   time lapse and the the instructor showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:35   us something fun with that which we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:36   get to in a minute but what did you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   think about the power lap like Dave what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40   did you think about the m3 vs CM six on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42   those power laps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:43   yeah i mean i think the m3 was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:44   more fun to drive and in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:47   but i think the biggest thing I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   away from those big laps and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51   surprise to me is that just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:54   exhausting driving that a car and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:59   in that manner is in a way that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   each lap was probably only 10 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:05   maybe a minute and a half ago it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:06   huge amount of time at the atom d cheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:10   exhaustion that you get into the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:11   of focus that it takes definitely gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:15   me a whole other kind of level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:16   respect for the people who do actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:18   racing weather especially those click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20   the crazy like the lawns races and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   things were there racing for hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:23   because even just after doing it for 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:26   minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   like I'm I'm it was just exhausting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   mentally and the whole to add some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:33   after sort of broke down from being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   to just sort of do it with normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   concentration to have to start like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:38   narrating myself through it no matter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   you listen on sort of like the in-car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   microphone you can just hear me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44   telling myself what I'm supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:46   doing trying to essentially be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   instructor for just myself to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51   keep myself and had to take a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   breaks even just to be able to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   you're trying to do at that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   speed we know you don't have that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:59   don't have time to think about it and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:00   just kind of an intense thing that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   bedridden really appreciate before just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   how exhausting that is you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   previous experience the driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:08   exhausting when you do you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10   six-hour road trip and you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:11   end of it you just mostly just bored and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:13   it's like that boredom kind of loss of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:15   focus rather than a loss of focus just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17   from exhaustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   yeah i mean each of these the m3 the m6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:22   power laps we were out for between 20-30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:25   minutes and at the end of it AF Waller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   asked in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   did you guys sweat a lot and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:30   sure if you meant that comically you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:31   seriously but i know i did it was tiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:34   and I crank the AC on those cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:37   sometimes I had the windows open when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:38   appropriate but that being said even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:41   with the ac's in the low 60s it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:44   was still hot because you were there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   a lot of effort it was hard and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   know Mario John Okeefe broken a sweat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:51   playing Mary oak art but nice i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:54   you I broke a sweat broke a sweat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   driving these hot laps I mean it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   was tiring if you do these time-lapse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   tho you gotta turn the AC off the extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02   hundredth of a second you know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   thought the same thing . hand on heart I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:07   really honestly did but it it wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   big enough deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   nor was it a big enough difference none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:13   of us are good enough and none of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   were good enough to make a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:16   and on these power lapse they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:18   time I speak and I think because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   wanted us to have fun and just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:23   specter of somebody behind you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   in your rear-view mirror was enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   get you to kind of overextend your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   abilities and I don't think timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   people really would help that situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   at all when they also in order to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:36   spacing like sort of sort of fast people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   keep going fast and not be behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   somebody slow for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   they would call people selectively into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   the pit to just maintain spacing so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:46   lot of laps were not complete laps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   because the pit was like a bypass 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:51   first first sort of short portion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52   track so that you could like reorganize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   two cars again if if somebody was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   someone else's but they would call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:59   front one into the pit so the rear one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   could pass it and and and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:05   I just a house in the pits a lot haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:08   yeah I think market is spent some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:11   in the pits but I I don't think either i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   spent a tremendous amount of time there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   so we're we're running along and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   to wrap up somewhat quickly but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   should note that at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   second day there were two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:22   things that happen so i made i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:24   earlier that we took the m5 under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   figure-eight and get some drifts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:27   some time lapse and that was fun and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29   think Marco beat me somewhat handily on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31   that if i'm not mistaken is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33   Marco I don't think so I we were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:36   close the in everything that was timed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   officially you and I were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:41   effectively equal x okay well regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   so then Johan who was the instructor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:46   that we had for that particular portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   of the day said hey listen I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:51   take one of the m56 just so happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   be the one Dave drove out there and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:56   going to drift the entire figure 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:59   I can take three people with me of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01   five of you who would like to go and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:04   I volunteered because I i'm lucky enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   not to get terribly motion sick market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:08   when Dave thought better of it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:10   our other two people decided to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:14   me and so Johan who is set a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:18   record for the longest drift is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:19   correct yes and it was even on thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   good bad was it on that skip it i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:24   catch that or what is on one of the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   okay well he said a world record for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:27   longest drift in and m5 is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   yep it was an m6 and five they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   everything in the m5 because it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   than the m6 ma'am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:34   there you go so anyway so he did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:37   instructor has set a world record for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:39   like a literally 50-mile drift around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:40   one of the two skid pads and he takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:43   the m5 and does adrift in a figure eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:46   and being in a car with an instructor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:50   watching them do their thing even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:53   their thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:54   senior quotes here is driving like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56   idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:57   it is on believable and so we did these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:02   figure eights and then all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   he decides he says he ok ok we're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   and he starts careening directly towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:11   Marco and Dave and so I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   did do one of you want to jump in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   tell the tell the story from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:16   perspective of the structure and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:19   was record i was think of it neither the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   moment you're talking about is I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:22   videoing this so I'm just sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   looking at my iphone screen as I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:27   know just doing doing a nice if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:28   some really nice slow-mo video of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   is all very nice and then you just liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   the car just like you start you survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   that moment of like he's not stopping or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:37   turning he's not stopping or turning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   then you just went through your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:40   the video that could just all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   sudden you just seems like since she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   like the camera down i'm just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   running backwards as he comes from warns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:47   us and then spins the car around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:50   hundred eighty degrees and essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:51   parks it up right where we were meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:54   right now right in front of where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:55   would have been standing if we hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   run away screaming right i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   there's a way to do it agreed to paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   the correct word picture on this one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   it suffice to say he parked the the m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:07   by doing a drift into exactly where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   decided it did needed to stop and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:12   unbelief it was like the adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:13   parking job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:25   I'm sure he appreciates that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:27   comparison of all the movie scenes where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:30   someone skimmed the car into a parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   lot ace pitcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:33   yes exactly well that was an awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:34   parking job come on it was pretty legit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37   so that was the end of the formal part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:40   of the two day in school and at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   point they basically said hey it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   a blast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45   you know here's a bunch of swag that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:46   we're giving you for free but in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:48   we all paid for and you can go about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:51   your business but if you'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:54   wee-wee the instructors will take two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:58   people at a time in the m3's and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:01   do a hot lap instructor style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:04   oh my goodness I thought once upon a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:08   time I was a decent driver i took this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:11   two-day am school and I realized i'm at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   best a mediocre driver then I went for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:18   ride with the instructors so Marco I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:21   like to hear your recap of how this went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:24   and then I'd like to hear Dave's even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26   if even that even as a spectator I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   like to hear what Dave thought well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:30   the way it into the cars these records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:33   were talking to each other and and lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35   instructor had told the others i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37   know i mean maybe say maybe says every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   time like to be funny but he had told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:41   the other instructors hey let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43   take it easy and and take a pretty clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   around the man turn the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:46   biggest on the track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:47   ok and so my I was in I was in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:54   the back car in in the line and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:58   instructor Laura was was fairly upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00   that the car in front of her was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02   going as fast as she wanted the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   time so first of all an instructor lap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:07   is insane because like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:10   think when you're driving it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   exact same car driving the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:14   course you know 30 minutes earlier you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:16   think that you are pushing the car like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:19   to its limits of traction that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   want any faster you'd skipped out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:24   that's sort of true actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:25   well then you get in the car the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:28   they drive it and then you realize oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   wow I had a lot of headroom and oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:33   God we're going fast and Mail and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:36   funny thing is in this is so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   twice I went once with the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   instructor Donnie and he is a robot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43   I mean that in the best possible way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   very very methodical very deliberate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:49   he didn't really get loose much and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51   he did you could tell he was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53   screwing around doing it for fun not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:54   because it was an error in judgment then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:57   for the second lap and I'm gonna turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   back to mark on a second for the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:01   lap I was with Derek who was by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:03   coincidence directly ahead of laura and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:06   marcos car and so derek was the polar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:10   opposite of tani in that he was loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   the entire time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:13   it's not that he wasn't quick but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:16   a very senior pants talking the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:19   time laughing and joking kind of driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:22   where is Donnie was very by-the-book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:25   this is how I'm doing it you will hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   on and you will enjoy that Donnie wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   a great guy he was extremely awesome but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:32   if the difference between these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:33   styles was incredible and so Marco is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:36   behind us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:37   unbeknownst to me while laura is cursing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:40   the fact that Derek isn't going quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   enough so laura is driving this m3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44   around with me and at me and other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   in the backseat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:47   I'm the front of the guys in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:48   and the funny thing with you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:52   was driving his car so so hard and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:56   just seemed effortless like we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   I talking in the car as if we were on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   roadtrip together just talking normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   and we even have we have a video cuz i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:04   plug my USB can do is why i recorded her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   lap with us on the card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   it's hilarious like how just she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:09   obviously does this every day and is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:12   fazed at all by it and we were like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:14   my god like trying to keep ourselves in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   the seats from from the ridiculous force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19   of turning so quickly and so after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:23   you know a very very fast lap of her not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:28   being able to drive as fast as she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   wanted because the guy in front of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:31   was was a not going fast enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34   she decides to ignore the directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:35   about taking the big turn cleanly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:38   just does this massive power slide for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:41   this massive turn if I mean it what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   must have been like a 20 second slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   just this giant perfectly smooth slider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:50   this whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:51   and then massive slide the next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   and then sliding back right precisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:56   between two cones to get back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58   pit lane and it was of course massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:02   cloud of smoke it was comical we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:05   fantastic time and then the next lap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:10   goes out and I was just watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:12   next lab and of course the next lab all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:15   of the instructors did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:16   that same power slide because they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:18   were not going to be outdone by the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:21   who wanted to have some fun so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:22   there's another massive cloud of smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:24   that with Dave and I both on video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   it was a fantastic time because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:28   really realize with with them driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:29   quite how much Headroom you have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:33   quite how much of a skill this is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   how far you are from after just two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:37   yep so Dave what did you think in in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:40   summary both about the power lap and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   the whole experience i'm sorry i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:44   actually go out I want to any of the hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:47   laps at this point the sort of general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:50   sense of motion sickness from all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:52   driving that I've been doing for myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:53   I thought was sufficient before I then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   got in the car and drove for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:56   five-and-a-half hours and so I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   better of it better of keeping marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:01   car to to steal it like to steal a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:04   neutral previous title you know vomit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:07   ruins everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   so I just decided to keep it as I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:11   to to keep it clean and I just watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:13   the outside and the crazy thing to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:16   realize watching from the outside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18   watched just the students be doing doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:20   their lap so you know for most for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:22   couple of days and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:24   it's the strangers you from looking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26   the outside the cars look like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:27   going quickly but they're not they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:30   it looks like looks a lot slower from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:31   the outside than it does from the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:33   whereas I think the sort of from these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:35   cars it's like you could tell they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:37   seriously going quickly i'm in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:40   that is you your head is turning rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:43   as they fly past you should definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:45   tell it was a whole lot a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47   level which is makes sense for why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   do it do it professionally vs us just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:51   obvious going and doing it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:54   John if you were to have gone with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:57   and I know that you need to be at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   for the Mavericks review I know you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:00   travel even if Marco works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02   transport you the whole way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   hypothetically if you you know turned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   your emotion ship and decided to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08   little bit of fun do you find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   getting motion sick when you are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   driver of an automobile or like in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14   words what do you think you would've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:15   been screwed after this entire event or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17   do you think you would have survived if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   any of you felt any motion sickness i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:20   would have been tremendously motion sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   child is very long and very rarely when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:25   I'm driving myself do I but occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:26   I do like you know a stop-and-go traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   for hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:29   you know and a stick shift on hilly road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:31   or even just you know like at its I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:35   very low limit so I guarantee that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:36   would not have gone on it not been up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:39   going as high lapping at the course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:40   describe going up and down the elevation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   changes with lots of turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44   I wouldn't have liked to do that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:45   by yeah i would probably miss half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:47   that's the other thing if I'd paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:48   this thing I probably missed half of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   as I SAT there motionless trying to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:53   my lunch down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:54   yeah and the other thing I should note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   that since you bring up manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:57   transmissions Marco and I made a made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:59   bet before the event and he had said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:02   well I'm sure that there will be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   least one car with a manual transmission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:05   because last year there was exactly 1 mm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:08   and I said no way there's no way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:11   would do that and I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:13   disappointed by that when I made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   because i knew i was going to be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   and I was but I was disappointed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   I thought man i'm really i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:21   want to have a stick or proper stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:23   shift there and and and I'm really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25   to miss not having one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   and as it turned out the m3 m5 m6 all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30   have the dctr boxes and now having been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:33   through that I would still personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:36   choose a six-speed a standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38   transmission for the street any day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:41   i have not been on a racetrack in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:43   six-speed yet but i can tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:46   for learning how to drive like a racecar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:50   driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:51   I am so glad that I didn't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:54   about a clutch or switching gears other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:57   than tapping on a flappy-paddle and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:59   don't know Marco especially since you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:01   have more experience on with manual then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03   then Dave does I don't know how you felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   but I'm actually very glad that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   didn't have a six-speed as it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09   well I do have one event i did with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:12   six-speed which was last at last year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:14   limerock thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:15   they had the one ends and they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   little autocross course to do with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   so i did that but it didn't really count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:22   because i was just in second gear almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   the entire time i would occasionally go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26   up to third on a really very fast part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   very very rarely and that's kind of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:31   it was on this track tool icon on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   big track we were mostly in second and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35   third going into 4th like on The Biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37   straightaways but not even for very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:40   because we weren't really good enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:42   be that going that fast anyway so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:45   don't think it matters on a racetrack as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:46   much as you think you know if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:48   drive a stick every day then it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:51   it's automatic for you and your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   like you're not gonna have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:54   about that you're changing gears going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:55   to do them and so it's not it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:58   think it makes a difference either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5578">TS</a>]

01:32:59   it is what I'm saying for it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:02   these for amateurs like us I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:05   going back a second to the motion sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:07   thing I don't usually get motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:09   sickness for any like common situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:12   but i did get motion sick at last year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:16   track event and I did get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:18   motion sick at this one last year's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:20   sitting in the backseat of the skidpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:22   when somebody else was getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:24   constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:25   i would not recommend sitting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26   backseat on any skin better exercise for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   anybody and huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29   and this time i got a little bit sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   feeling when we're doing the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:32   elevation change course and and both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:35   times it didn't ruin my day and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   I felt better like you know the half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   hour to an hour later but I'd know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:43   enough about myself now having done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:45   now twice to know that even though I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5625">TS</a>]

01:33:49   love driving my fast car and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:52   i love this kind of thing in theory i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:55   don't think i would ever like this hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57   enough to actually go and like get time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5637">TS</a>]

01:34:00   on a track myself outside of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:02   highly instructed highly structured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:06   events like I don't think I can handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08   the motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:09   I wouldn't want to be driving on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11   track for you know five hours straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:13   with with no breaks or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:16   certainly the expense of getting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:19   own time on on most tracks is insane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:22   and the ones near me are certainly no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:25   exception and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:27   so I think I'm actually perfectly fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:29   doing this kind of thing every couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32   years with friends as we see fit but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:35   don't think i would want to do a track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:37   hobby more often than that i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:39   i can really handle it and I I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42   actually okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:43   like I'm okay minute to myself and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:46   I guess to the public that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:49   yeah that's actually fine now Dave what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51   do you think I'm very glad that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:54   this in terms of obviously coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:56   the opposite end of the spectrum it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58   it's it's something that's it it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:00   honestly it's it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:01   interesting things where you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:04   it's an experience that yes in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:07   people call it is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:07   once-in-a-lifetime experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:09   probably won't be once-in-a-lifetime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:09   that's the kind of thing I met me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   they'll do at some point later but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:14   have it's very different than what very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:16   different than the norm and is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18   it's interesting to AC a different sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:22   of almost part of yourself in that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:23   you know driving for me typically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:26   about safety and economy in met you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:30   entire life like that's what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:31   essentially what i'm trying to do is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:32   going to get from here to there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:34   safely and effectively was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:37   to try that city to business you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:40   through the same motions you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:41   hands are strong wheel my feet on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:42   pedals about doing it for two completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:44   different goal and seeing how different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46   that feels and seeing how you react to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:49   that by putting yourself into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51   situation and you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53   definitely not for me in terms of you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:54   a hobby or something out doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56   long-term long-term both from a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:58   bit of motion sickness and those types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5758">TS</a>]

01:35:59   of things but also just it's a no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:02   it's a skill that I don't think I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04   naturally have nor do I think enjoyed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:09   a sufficient degree that I would be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:11   to put in the Indian of the hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13   hours of time and money and do the just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:16   piles of money that it would take to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18   good at but it's very fun to go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:21   try it and to see what that's like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23   that now I kind of have a sense that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:24   I sit down and watch top gear episode i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26   watch a an f1 race on TV or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:29   I kind of know what's going on at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:32   a vague level that I just didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34   appreciate before then I see someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:36   doing something while I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38   could do it myself i know just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   difficult it is I'm and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:43   that's kind of fun and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:44   dated so it's it's a rare and rare these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46   days to be able to know something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:48   yourself that you didn't before and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:50   kind of fun to go off and explore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:53   yeah now John which one of the three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:57   us do you reckon was the first to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:59   marcos and five subsequent to the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:02   day in school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:04   ah which one of the three of you mhm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:08   that depends on how tired marker was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   anyone to be chauffeured back to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   going i was thinking i would assume Argo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14   is somebody might want to sit out by one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:16   investor now actually as it turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:18   so i talked about this quickly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:21   past I where weirdo hard contact lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24   which are very rough to have on for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26   many many many hours at once and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:28   said to Marco and Dave hey listen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:30   know my eyes are going to get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:31   cranky not too long from now because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:33   were leaving the school at five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:35   o'clock in the evening and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:37   volunteered to take the first leg and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39   this is pretty much entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:40   unremarkable except that when we got on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42   interstate 85 i found a hole right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:45   we got on the interstate and so I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:47   left very casually and very safely as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:50   opposed to my normal approaches a BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:52   driver and I wanted to collapse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:55   space in front of me and so I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:57   say I stood on the gas but I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5877">TS</a>]

01:37:58   got on the gas and Marco has his speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:02   morning settings set the same way I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:05   which is 85 miles an hour and and BMWs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07   tend to overcompensate and so 85 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:10   an hour indicated is really about 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12   miles an hour and so I collapse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15   space in front of me Nova has all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:16   sudden you're putting and I realize oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:18   god I've driven for two straight days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:21   without a speed limit anywhere in sight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:22   and i just did about 9,400 trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:26   collapsing onto under the car in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:29   of me which I can't do anymore and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:32   think for all three of us it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:34   little bit of an adjustment going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36   to driving like a civilized human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   David how hard was it for you and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:40   corolla to to drive normally it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:44   fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:45   I i was able to handle it i will say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:47   had since driving since I do think my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:49   driving style has changed slightly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:51   I think and the way that i'm driving is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53   just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:54   like to do a bit more conscious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:55   precise which is kind of fun to to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:58   even just applied to my tiny blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5938">TS</a>]

01:38:59   corolla that I dry and i barely drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:02   but you know it was different was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:04   strange having spent five five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:07   days straight driving & M cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   consistently and then immediately after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:11   I got home I had to make a quick run to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:13   the UPS store to return some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:15   cameras i rented for the trip and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17   like getting a micro and turning it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:18   and they're being comparatively no noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:21   when you turn the engine on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:22   just turned on rather than there being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:23   this like was comparatively no engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:26   yeah you have exactly just that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:28   nothing there's no low bassy kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:30   booming sound that comes out of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:32   like all right I'm home again i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:36   say also and and this I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38   well this is going to go over with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:39   audience well who-who weekend who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41   listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:41   I think you know every time I i drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:46   every time you do something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:47   which is not very often but where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:49   where I see like what the M cars can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51   it becomes more clear to me that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:53   really don't need to be driving one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:56   in my in my day-to-day life like my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/5996">TS</a>]

01:40:00   is a complete waste of all that power in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:02   my day-to-day life because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6002">TS</a>]

01:40:04   ideally if you get an M car if it spends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6004">TS</a>]

01:40:08   any time in 6th or 7th gear you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:09   probably doing it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11   in retrospect I think if they put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:13   decent transmission in the 550i xdrive i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:17   would probably be perfectly happy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:19   that car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:20   however they don't put a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:21   transmission in it so I its height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:23   I wouldn't be you know speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   emotion sickness and the powerful cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:27   being wasted every when I was very young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:29   I wanted to be a fighter pilot and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:32   in fifth grade we went on a whale watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:34   off of Montauk Point and I stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:36   wanting to be a fighter pilot because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6036">TS</a>]

01:40:38   found out i get terribly motion sick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40   that's kind of you know out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:41   question if your fighter pilot and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6041">TS</a>]

01:40:43   that also ruled out high-performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:44   cars and even though i'd read car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:46   magazines you know my whole life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:48   always knew that you know I could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:49   actually drive one of these cars like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:51   sent to be driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:52   however I maintain that I still want my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54   Ferrari I was going to ask even though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   will never be able to drive the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:58   meant to be driven I wanted to drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:00   you know stupidly briefly so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:04   get second because it's a work of art so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:06   I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:07   and Marco can make his decision but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:09   I would still if I had the means end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:12   getting a car that is totally wasted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14   made the same way i'm about to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:15   computer the mac pro that's pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:17   gonna be totally wasted I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:19   ridiculous dual workstation class you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:21   used to play video games kind of in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:24   mediocre manner I I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:27   perfectly fine if that's what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:28   to spend your money on go for but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:30   always known that even though what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:32   would end up with even though I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:33   like the philosophy of BMW is I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:36   end up with my Ferrari and neck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:37   mercedes s-class and mostly i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:39   recommend mostly I would drive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6099">TS</a>]

01:41:41   mercedes and then you know on weekends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:43   or vacations or whatever drug take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:45   Ferrari out for brief stints and yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:47   would be totally wasted but actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:50   would be preserving its resale value was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:51   thinking that way and on that bombshell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:55   I think we're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:57   oh goodness anything else gentlemen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6117">TS</a>]

01:42:00   think that's it I mean Dave any closing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:02   comments on I guess you already gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04   them but any closing comments on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:06   experience as a whole and and how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6126">TS</a>]

01:42:08   has changed you as a person i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:11   mostly just thanks to you guys for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:12   coming along on this ride with me i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14   it didn't take much convincing but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16   definitely was a lot more fun than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:18   think if I'd ever done something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:19   this myself so indifferent get it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   work out to do with to do with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23   people but definitely recommend it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25   somebody else and just a lot of fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:28   to try something that's that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:31   different to see how you react to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:33   then to know well you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:35   like that this is a whole box you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37   check and see like you have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:38   car driven you know fast cars quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:39   rather than just slow car slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:42   alright well thank you for turning 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:43   and what did you say you're placing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:45   order for your 328 I'm still on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:49   fence about that my corolla is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:51   just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:52   we should we should say before we close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:53   the show that casey and i were plotting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:56   via i am like I'm two months ago about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:59   what kind of car we're going to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:02   Dave to buy because we knew that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:06   probably couldn't get into a 335 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08   would be too much of a jumpy probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:09   can go for that we also know that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:11   don't want him buying the 320 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:14   that's just stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6194">TS</a>]

01:43:16   my position was quickly my position on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:19   320 is that it is a little bit cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:22   but it's still not a cheap car it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:24   any lighter weight or meaningfully more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:27   fuel-efficient than 328 so why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:30   bother getting 320 except to save some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:32   money on a not cheap car why not spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:35   the extra little bit of money to get 328 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:37   which is a way nicer car than 320 so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:42   were we when plotting to convince Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:44   to buy 328 as as his corolla replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:47   even though the crows need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49   replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:50   technically idealistically it does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6230">TS</a>]

01:43:53   or you know philosophically it needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:56   be replaced so everyone on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:59   please convince underscore David Smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:00   to buy a 328i you can come with me David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:03   test drive a stick shift to court you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:05   like it sounds perfect i think I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:07   three or four of those for the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:09   it that's right here you can have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:10   can have one for each day of the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:11   instead of the 328 you could have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:14   day according your night record it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:16   all right are we done now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:19   yeah I think that's it thanks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:21   listeners for tolerating all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   yeah and no guarantees about any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:25   neutrals but thanks for listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:27   this little one off special so thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:29   everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:34   finally Berkeley's newsy yes don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:37   that I don't think I knew that how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39   that must make for an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:40   celebration every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:42   hey see if you can figure out what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:44   celebration is like every year you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:46   to bed early sprite is frightening would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:48   go to bed early and now it's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6288">TS</a>]

01:44:51   everyone else's nice sprites everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:52   else's out partying and I can just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6292">TS</a>]

01:44:54   me know you're my record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6294">TS</a>]

01:45:00   yes you do that and I don't have spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:01   outside of a restaurant that used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:06   the wouldn't have sold in house at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:08   these do the thing where you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:09   like or you wanna pick where you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:11   go out on your birthday you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:12   your family you know when your kid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:14   know whichever restaurant you want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:15   to you will go out to but I could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:17   do that because you can't get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:19   restaurant you know in New Year's Eve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:20   unless you reserve like you know weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:22   in advance we never would so we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:23   have to have my birthday dinner on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:24   day other than my actual birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:25   because impossible to get out that night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28   it's kind of set sorry I'm still playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:31   like your fighter pilot dream being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:32   crushed this has been very set who who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:35   invited you on to this episode there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:36   right there good things about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6336">TS</a>]

01:45:38   birthday being close to Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:39   because that meant that I could double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:40   up birthday and Christmas and get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:41   one big gift that I want which in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:43   case is get ready young people 450 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:45   dollery under a floppy drive night not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:49   combined birthday if I combined birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:51   Christmas ink and give you hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:53   dollars of my own money can i get a 450 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:55   dollar floppy drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6355">TS</a>]

01:45:56   yes yes I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmGzvMphM/6356">TS</a>]