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00:00:10 ◼ ► approach that iTunes about about profanity on the show and the lack of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/10">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► explicit marker on it what do you what do you what do you do with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/18">TS</a>]
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00:00:58 ◼ ► swear words like I'm Yangon one on the show right to your door telling stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/58">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► of such a nature which is not the case it's you know so when i when i wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► when I wrote my book and they sent over a contract and I sent it to gave my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/70">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► lawyer the first thing he did was he got the profanity claws removed because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► knew I would never be able to do it it's a funny thing and i wanna hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/82">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► divergence about it but I don't know what the total I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/89">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► total number of swear words I've run during fireball over the years is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/94">TS</a>]
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00:01:52 ◼ ► them loosely like if I mean fucking crazy I I did not using the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/112">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► therefore in a case with it would change the meaning and well yeah there is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/118">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► different level there's crazy and then there's been crazy and then there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/123">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► art school crazy above that every once in awhile i mean like my dad doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► like my dad is busy 77 is a sharp 77 just call me today shot a one-over par [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/133">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► playing golf but he's you know he's old school in that regard i mean my dad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/140">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► probably younger than Lenny Bruce and was over the previous generation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/147">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► know my dad the guy who went through the sixties in his thirties but kinda looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/154">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► like the Mad Men guys like still Greece in their hair and wearing shirts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► ties with a good looking man I think he's a good looking good looking man by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/162">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► the way is this all gonna be in the show ya so I am beginning to see why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/170">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► show is three hours long I tell my dad is a very good looking man 477 tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/175">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► that I i I would be lucky to be that half as good looking when I'm 77 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/182">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► wanna make it to 77 yeah I don't die and really it's hard to tell whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/187">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► sirens are coming from your neighborhood in my neighborhood its 50 50 Philly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/196">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► so kind of a bittersweet show I had this is going to be the last episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/204">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► talk show on your radio are you fucking kidding me and this is how you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/213">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► seriously back felt like the severe winter break it easy what a dick move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/221">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► you like it was pretty good I was well played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/228">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► now the opposite in fact the shoe to see how busy we're like three months into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/234">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► work and typical for me it's taken a very long time to move on very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/240">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► distance yes i'm i'm kidding of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► john john first told me about this now I'm speaking about a third person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/248">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► know we talked about this months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► no i didnt even look this up and I mean look this up right now because if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/256">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► not the two-year anniversary is extraordinarily close are you looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/261">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► email now I'm looking at the archives so they became the first episode of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/268">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► show on mule was May 18th so effectively two years almost made it almost so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/274">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► it's 80 episodes two years long story short it's it's the show has gotten way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/286">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► too too big and popular and so big for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/293">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► well it's too big not to have it as part of their enviable it's become untenable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► I think branding lies I probably should have done this year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► again I'm very slow person slowly moving slow to realize the obvious it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/307">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► you know revenue eyes attention lies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► time wise it's it's effectively half of what I do and it's it's just gotten to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/319">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► the point where it's kind of silly to treat it as its own discrete separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/324">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► brand identity hear what you're welcome by the way damn well I do I owe you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/328">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► because when I came to you guys two years ago I I really wasn't even sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► that I would want to keep doing it you know I wanted to try definitely wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/339">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► to try but I had no idea you know you know there's going to be a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► doing the show on my own then doing the old show with Dan and I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/349">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► would you know within is this sort of thing where I i feel like im gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► for two months and then well thats that was nice that was you know that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► little short trip but I'm done or is this something that has staying power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/364">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► and I had no idea how to do any of it so I do I i mean is why I wanted you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/371">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► the last guest on your is that I read thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/377">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► well that's very nice of you to say I appreciate you trying a prety appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/383">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► you coming over to mule radio because I mean in essence that your show is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/392">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► allowed me to radio to you get to get to where it ends when we get to the can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► get to the part of the silver cursing each other out this feels weird longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/403">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► we've been nice to each other except maybe that one or we are out drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/409">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► beer with jeff levine who was about eight feet tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/414">TS</a>]
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00:07:03 ◼ ► you pace yourself with the people you're drinking with Jeff seen by the by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/423">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► merits of his size he can drink gallons of beer he can remember leaving the bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/427">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► at you like arms around each other you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► I love you that was awkward I don't think so I don't think that was me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/436">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► if you are around your neighborhood that's a good part of its called well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/441">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► that's good because I don't remember yeah I don't want anybody going there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► it's my quiet by it was nice as we have heard of each other next suck when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/453">TS</a>]
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00:07:46 ◼ ► couple of times they can WWDC type situations like the bikes hanging oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/466">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► that always forget the name I know what you mean that's the place that we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/475">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► ended up in at like 1:30 in the morning or night and and it was great at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/482">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► because it was a big spacious place and I don't smoke I've never smoked but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/488">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► were allowed to smoke in there long after the city even though maybe just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/494">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► tad bandit because the regulations research that only a smoking ban only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/500">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► applies to employees and the guy who owned the place was like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► employee and so he was allowed to allow smoking in bed but it was big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/508">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► that it didn't feel like a smoky place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/513">TS</a>]
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00:08:44 ◼ ► employees you can save your own rules because you're not putting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► yeah it's weird law in California with a bad way but is a little bit regulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/528">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► have a little bit not quite massachusetts but you know I freaked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/541">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► now if I go somewhere and people are smoking inside it's bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/547">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► you don't expect it and it smells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/553">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► the way it worked if I could be miss remembering us to but I'm almost certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/557">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► that the way over to pennsylvania was some point in the 2000 Philadelphia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/562">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► banned smoking in you know maybe it was a similar type thing but effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/567">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► every place I want every bar restaurant but it wasn't statewide and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/573">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► would go to see relatives or something outside the city and go out to eat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/578">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► people would light up dude doing an insight Philly very strange anyway so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/583">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► your podcast is gonna be on your site to the podcast is gonna party during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► fireball just be daring fireball dotnet / the talk show starting with the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/601">TS</a>]
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00:10:15 ◼ ► scribe to the feed gonna do some jiggly jiggly hopefully stuff behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/615">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► nobody's gonna need to read free subscribers should all just work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/622">TS</a>]
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00:10:30 ◼ ► episode that they may not even realize if their subscriber and the best news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/630">TS</a>]
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00:11:12 ◼ ► backed up I think a petabyte is a thousand gigabytes but I think you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► think he misspoke did you save $5 a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/675">TS</a>]
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00:11:24 ◼ ► it does it sounds too good to be true but it's not they've been in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► for a long time it's totally sustainable there's no hurry behind the scenes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/687">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► terms of their funding over five billion files that have been restored by their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► users they have I S apps for the iPad and iPhone that let you access and share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/697">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► any of your files from anywhere so when you're home act backed up around about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► your iPhone you can use your iPhone to get to any of the files that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► backed up I always mention this is my favorite talking point that it's founded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/711">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► by Acts Apple engineers not you just run silent I your Mac you'd never know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/716">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► installed its good software that doesn't slow anything down you'll never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/723">TS</a>]
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00:12:26 ◼ ► damage fire somebody breaks in steals your computer you have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/746">TS</a>]
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00:12:34 ◼ ► they're still with me because everybody ought to be signed up there are however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/754">TS</a>]
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00:13:14 ◼ ► typo domains know about that crap yeah just so used to it as it used to seem so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/794">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► yeah and if somebody would go to a typo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/803">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► you know but it just seems like everybody's goes to Google types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/807">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► whatever they're looking for that way I've been I've been arguing this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/812">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► years I don't understand why we're still designing states with search boxes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/817">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► Jason freed talked about the nav since gone on and registered a backpack what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/821">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► the base camp they have Basecamp dot com now but it wasn't until like this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/830">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► when they got it they were based campaign HQ dot com right then turned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/835">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► into like you know it's a fifty person business and he was like you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► was years ago he just said forget it people just turn in people just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► Basecamp into Google we could we could have any casting in general and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/847">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► think you know the show is a terrific example of it it's getting hit it big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/859">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► and getting bigger and I don't think that there's a very serious about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/866">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► mean I know sometimes my stick on the show is that we you know just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► thing in it but it's a big deal and I think that the the aggregate attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/875">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► that people out there are spending listening to podcasts is just tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► oh I agree and I don't think it's had its its moment yet it's blogger moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/887">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► you remember back when you know we all used to our web sites and you know hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/895">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► coded everything and you know that there was no CMS any of that and then blogger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/905">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► showed up and all of a sudden it became that much easier was like 12 their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/911">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► tagline was one click publishing or something yeah not damn somebody yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/917">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► but we haven't had that for podcasting yet it just feels like all of the pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/921">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► are there like the recording in the hosting and the distribution but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/927">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► and nobody's yet figured out how to tie them all together into into here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/934">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► here's the here's the one thing you need to do it to both making listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/941">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► podcasts and pride podcast I think you know I think what we're heading towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/946">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► is you know you get in your car at some point and you just keep your podcast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/954">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► on your dashboard and you start listening whatever you had queued up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► yeah I think that you just took the words right out of my mouth is to me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/962">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► difference isn't so much even on the production side although it is true that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/967">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► that even somebody who just wants to get started rolling around podcast deficit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► do more work than than what bloggers made it to you know this sort of order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/977">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► of magnitude leap and ease of looked here's your blog here's a box for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/984">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► title here's a box for the body hit publish and now you've got an entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► we're not there yet on the publishing side but to me the bigger things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► consumption we're still a lot of it just feels like a little bit of a Rube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/996">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► Goldberg thing to get gettin keep them synced up and listen to them everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► you wanna be the IP phone and and it's funny because unless you know this goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► back almost got to be close to 10 years now maybe even 10 years is the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► name podcast is obviously the pod comes from ipod but getting on an iPod to was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► always a huge pain in the ass you know you'd sucking down to your Mac iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► and then you have to plug your iPod into your Mac and wait for it to sink and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► was never the right time because you wanted like you're like I'm on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► out the door and I wanted to grab my ipod and go and listen to podcast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► haven't synced in a couple days last weeks old ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► when's the last time you hooked up a phone to a to a computer you know I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► bad example because I'm working on a nap new version of Vesper so I have to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► for that for developing but for any reason other than development it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► yeah yeah the last time you launch the iTunes not accidental again I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► accidentally as the only reason I can think oh yeah I mean part of the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► here is that shit yeah and it's it really is just it just looks old it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► looks like something from just feels like something from the bush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► administration also I i think i do i tunes every once in a while he is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► use case so I'm flying somewhere and I want to load some video I get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► movies from my iPad yeah that's a guy I do that that's probably when I do too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► and that depending on how you do it and what you might already have on your iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► can take to ABS or one so so let's say you've been watching a TV show and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► have old episodes that TV show on your iPad and you just go to the page with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► with the TV show listings there's the get more episodes link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► yeah and and you can just download episodes right from there but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► looking for episode if you're looking for something that's not already on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► iPad that's not you know further episodes of something already have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► their you have to go to the stupid iTunes App you can't do it well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► a there's there's a store in Lincoln the videos out that takes you to the iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► App where you can get them there in that stupid little box that stupid little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► pop-up box right it's it's it's it's sucks and feels too convoluted its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► now I'm the same way I feel like you know with apps on the phone for podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► you know whether it's casting I've been using castro I know friend of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► Marco Arment has his his appt coming up it's better because it's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► natural that you described in this app and the show's eventually get there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► for stuff like playing in the car then you still gotta have some kind of hookup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► between phone and car I'm with you I feel like it's gotta get to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► where it's it's just like tuning index and radio or something in your car where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► you know and maybe the whole car plate thing is the way we'll get there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► yeah I think that's that's a step I don't own a car so this is an issue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► me and I don't like you say xam xam radio did that actually take off you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► know it only did I think because so many cars they got deals with so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► you know that it's get it we have a cards I guess it's getting old now 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► years old but we have their accent it's a negligible amount per month and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► XML I think they're doomed because I feel like the future is got a bit we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► all in these cars with phones that have LTE connections internet and yet I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► using this crummy I forget what the kilobits per second of x and reuse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► it's pretty bad it's bad enough even my bad here's can hear that it's Damien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► over compressed way worse than streaming audio that you get over like LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► and it just seems ridiculous that you're communicating to us a delayed by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► crappy digital connection but the huge advantage if you just wanna turn some on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► for our trip vs FM radio is that there's no commercials whereas FM radio if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► tuned in the FM radio lately if I lately mean in the last 20 years probably I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► it on a war the other day driving Jonas home from baseball practice and its we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► were we had practice at this place way down by the it was indoor place because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► it was a rainy day batting cage type place down by the airport so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► roughly how far from the airport it is to Center City like a 20 minute drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► the entire I just thought on a lark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► just thinking about stuff like this about you know radio and audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► podcasting stuff like that let's listen Mr and I put Mr on and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► 2012 20 minutes of commercials gotten a surreal song came on as we got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► house and that was it a nice to listen to that so much when I lived there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► no no it was never good thing they have going for them as they still have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► same logo so there's they're they're rock and sort of nostalgia the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► left I think that it that ugly ugly ass bubble letter logo yeah totally eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► orange you know you know you know it you know exactly what you think anybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► ever lived in Philadelphia knows that look I feel like thats that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► podcasting future moment that its its growth from here to there until you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► just tuned in anywhere anytime I think I mean its future moment is where it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► it's indistinguishable from radio into in terms of how you get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► I think there there are radio shows they get this I think you know the npr people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► defenders say understood that hey we might not get with this podcasting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► yeah and I think that's the great advantage they had of not being beholden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► to commercial breaks I mean I know that over the years people have given them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► lot of grief because they it's not that they don't have sponsors I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► call them different things you know the show's brought to you by you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► someone so but they're not beholden to these every 15 10 15 minutes these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► brakes were they run traditional radio commercials and so they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► anything they did they weren't as it in to disrupt themselves as a as radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► stations would be what I worry about is who's going to pay for this year so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► know the sponsorship model that's that's you know there now and how much money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► Squarespace have hope it's a lot because they're they're funding half of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► podcast in the universe and we have to wait one of the things that we talked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► lot about is what happens when this first wave of people who are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► pay for spring podcasts disappear and right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► podcasts are still a huge majority of podcasts are are supported by tech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► about tech that's certainly changed a bit the last couple of years but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► the needle is moving in the right direction today but we're still talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► about an industry that is dominated by text you and even to perfect examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► they're related because they've got they share founders and they have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► idea but Warby Parker sponsors a lot of podcasts and carries the men's shaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and their their products are clearly not tack especially worried Parker because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► will be Parker is anybody with bad eyes you know should be looking at him but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► no sense though they are because part of their disruptive model is is we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► bring lower prices by selling this crap directly to the consumer over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► internet so they are still attack in the sense that they've cut out the retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► middleman I was excited when when Warby Parker showed up not just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► were bringing money which is great but just because it it it's more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► consumer good yeah I mean it is a consumer good it definitely has a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► component to it but it's the appeal to a broader audience like I don't go to war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► B Parker because I'm a tech head nerd I go to worry Parker because many classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► and if podcasting is going to survive and flourish and I think it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► flourish we're gonna it's gonna need its gonna need that kind of attention it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► gonna need to appeal to the audience to 20 Warby Parker audience and above its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► gonna need to appeal to Whole Foods audience it's gonna need to appeal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► target audience not just a square foot space audience and it's gonna need its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► gonna need the kind of shells that that audience appeals to as well I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► anyone home and one of the things that one of the failures of mule radio is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1610">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► that we have a sports show yet have been dying to go sports show and we talked we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► talked about this years ago with macarthur yeah with american McCarver we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► didn't last as long as McCarver himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► but we wanted to do a podcast for that shell and I think that podcast would've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► been great it was just a matter of all the people who were waiting for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► she'll like couldn't even sustain the writing but we were all in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► locations and it was just too hard to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► could be I would imagine it as being something and don't say never I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► rule it out but I would imagine it as being sports what smells the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► incomparable is to say the incomparable is movies and TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► popular movies and TV shows in general nerdy yeah that's a good show Dance a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► great show and i've you know the the sort of there's a circle of income Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► Bowl personalities but it's it's last you know because it's not that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► I guess now is at every show but for the most part though nobody else has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► big of a commitment you know in terms of every single week having to do it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► know that it can sound it is it's a very white wine you know i mean there are ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► million worst problem but doing a show every week is it's you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► serious commitment towards a pain in the ass and if you like that sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► regular gang but everybody is not in every week could totally work for sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► it also works with the seasonality of sportswear somebody who's not into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► baseball you know but as a football bat maniac you know just most moralistic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► summer on now is our second ya go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► our good friends at Squarespace we joked about them before by Sept set that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► perfectly didn't way you don't even now I have no idea no idea but you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► you can you can win a lot of money betting on Squarespace as a sponsor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► the podcast including this one and now they have a good product they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► fantastic product you go to Squarespace you sign up and you can get your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1765">TS</a>]
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00:30:03 ◼ ► support team in New York City and they're great I think they won more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► awards for their support team than they have for their product and the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► is great you be surprised at how many the sites you look at that are built on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1812">TS</a>]
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00:30:29 ◼ ► grouper GRU be are they also have an offer code separate offer code is Jay G [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1829">TS</a>]
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00:30:50 ◼ ► about setting up a website for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1850">TS</a>]
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00:31:06 ◼ ► what else is going on this week the sad news with Massimo Danieli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► yeah that sucks man what a life so he if for those who don't know him he's to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► he's a famous graphic designers is to understate understated completely he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► among other things he did the New York City Metro the MTA stuff so soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► the subway map right Lake take the subway map that everything is it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► these subway map like he did the new york one but you know it also became the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► model for every subway map designed after that subway map right so he built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► the template for how to do a subway map with that new york well and the big part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► of it again it it's that mantra that you know you can reuse over and over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► over again the Steve Jobs thing about that design isn't how it looks at how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► works it's not just that the map looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► it's that it works so well and in New York City subway line is so complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► and so many lines and his the genius of it is that he kinda separated it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► the actual geography right and that if you overlay an actual geographic map of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► New York over the subway map that he created doesn't line up at all but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► separating that it actually makes more sense and that's what makes it easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► and to use because these days the diagonals all run at 45 degree lines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► it just makes conceptual sense that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► yes I want to get to Yankee Stadium here I am ok I can take this train up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► and then 42nd Street I can switch to this train and that'll take me right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► to the Bronx you know so I think about a really good idea is that when you see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► your first reaction is of course that's how you do that right it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► nobody had done it before and I did it at PPL rejected it right everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► like you can with this doesn't just doesn't line up with the with New York's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► geography right but that wasn't the goal right understood that the goal was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► getting people from point A to point B any figured out the right way to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► and he figured out that you know the geography was kind of a suggestion like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► yeah that's kinda sorta looks like New York and now have all right now how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► get from point A to point B he did the original the one that everybody still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► remembers the American Airlines branding is a big fan obviously I mean famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► and he was even featured in gary has to its film Helvetica is a big big user of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► Helvetica and and Swiss design in general and that sort of basic Swiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► geometric clock and hype but everything I'd like Eric speaker man good our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► friend Eric speaking he understood that help their cause you only find you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► yeah I actually drawing a blank on anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► Massimo did that wasn't Helvetica I'm trying to troll speaker my particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► he's a genius in his own right but his is blind spot for Helvetica has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► contended me but on the other hand maybe because he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► which is funny because he designed but Dhoni designed so many great funds yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► but maybe it's the fact that he doesn't like it which drove him in the direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► to do these other things that are new and distinct and notches read rehashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2093">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► so my one of my favorite one of my favorite things he did was and i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► this one isn't as famous as in the New York subway but you know when you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► yes that's his stuff and NE national park you go to you and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► understand immediately I'm at a national park hope it's the brochure I know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► to use this pressure because it follows the same grade structure it follows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► same content structure from park to park to park the the new American Airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► livery I think that's what they did that liver your life every one of those words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► livery like live its next where they went away from his design and and switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► to I don't know what type faces some kind of thing you know the color is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► vaguely the same you can you know you can read you can read that it still says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► American Airlines it's such it's such a pointless redesign and it came at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► when American Airlines was in trouble and I it was one of those redesigns were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► you just know it was it was part of a lino distract from the financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► problems let's let's come out with a new identity is it didn't do anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► help them it didn't make me quit Twitter got the new bird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► exactly it's exactly like Twitter getting a new bird right it just came at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► a time of let's do something and it just made me so sad because the old American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► Airlines brand and livery could have lasted forever always beautiful it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► it would it could ever could live fifty years from now it would still look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► exactly that is good and hundred years from now it probably looked at each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► other new one sucks it has those that that awful awful tale bullshit with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► stripes and I don't know what the hell is going on here but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► a weird ego headed shape coming just it's terrible I've seen a lot lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► because Phillies main airlines USAir and USAir is acquiring merging with american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► but it's real it's one of those a reverse acquisition where USAir as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► one thats fiscally solvent and they're buying american but because american has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► the better more established brand they're going to rebrand the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► as american airlines and so when I fly and I've been playing a lot recently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► had lot of its on USAir everything at like Philly Airport at least is 5050 now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► like all the when you go to the USAir desk it's USAir and American they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► like like one foot in each boat right now and then soon I guess they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► gonna take their foot out of the USA won and I was so hoping that they would use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► this as an opportunity to go back to the classic American Airlines brand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► apparently not the old one is so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► do you remember when ups which logos yeah I was just thinking about an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► that's the only thing about this is that they wanted to make it seem as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► the UPS logos which made sense that was probably what about five years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► yeah maybe a little longer somewhere between five and eight but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► that beautiful Paul brand logo one of his best and he's really was and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► that's saying something but they have the perfect logo just a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► idealized I cannot iconographic package perception is logo perfection and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► they replaced it with with the ship its viewership it already looks dated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► they they replaced it with this sort of gradient look you know that was smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2333">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► and and this sort of like their printer said hey we we could print this gradient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► that'll make this shield look curvy on the trucks will then let you use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► just just awful it already looks bad indeed it was I don't know why I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► think it was more in five or six years ago but it was certainly within the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► decade and it already looks old whereas the Paul rammed one would have lasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► forever you have really would have got the thing about it is is na I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► sincerely that it's not just bitching about it because they changed it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► know but it was just so perfect it was good looking and it was distinctive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► nobody else used I mean I still have the brown so that mean I'm not that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► that the gorilla that but that the Paul Rand one made them look authoritative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► like they were they somehow always as a kid seemed to me even more authoritative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► than the postal service that even though the Postal Service is actually from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► a package by UPS that was that was the real deal was good staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► UPS does not deliver bad news I think that's part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► exactly and they don't give you up if UPS showed up they were bringing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► something you on it when the mail showed up 50 50 shot that was gonna suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► overdue bill collection agency UPS was always good and I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► know what the deal is with this I don't know if I i mean it's gotta speak to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► like really good hiring practices but every UPS guy a GPS agent that I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► has been great that I have the exact same experience here totally yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► and then like the FedEx guy also and you know he's may be recovering from last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► night he's you know like smoke smells like cigarette smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► yeah just been near of sweat but the UPS guy always looks impeccable very true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► R you we have a regular UPS guy and I got a little bit embarrassed I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► know his name but we just call each other cheap right because we're thrilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► yeah and you know but he knows I know him and he's awesome there was one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► just just a couple weeks ago where we were going away and is one of my recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► trip you know we're flying the next day and Amy had ordered something that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► wanted for the trip and amy was gone and it was just me and Jonas but I had to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► pick up dry cleaning that we wanted to take with us on the trip so Jonas was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► home we don't let him answer the door cuz he's only ten years old and has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► lot to answer the door so he doesn't answer the door and I knew I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► fifteen-minute window where if the UPS guy came in at fifteen minutes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► gonna miss this package and it that's when he came and I was like a block and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► a half away two blocks away and he's dry see him driving he sees me and he pulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► over and he go there just missed him he tosses me the package FedEx guy would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► have flipped you off you never would have given it to me now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► never in a million years and and now there is I don't know I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► this is regional or what but like those those shared services that Amazon jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► aircraft to yeah I know what you mean yeah it's like a guy was a guy with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► eco deliver 90 executives guy with the Subaru you know maybe they do some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► of background check on uniforms they do things like these are the guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► couldn't get over ex jobs and they're delivering your packages exactly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► know what it takes now to get hired by Umarex I think your dick has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► visibly outside your pants of the tattoo on it right says mom and there's a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► anyway the sad story about massive movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► is that is apparently very gravely I just like the sub today and his son you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► know they're spreading the news in that they want you know anybody has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► inspired by him to just send them a letter Sunday sound literally envisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► you can't don't think I don't wanna bother and they're going to get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► letters already though they want this right this is envisioning sacks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► sacks of letters and he gave an address and just anybody has been inspired by I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2621">TS</a>]
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00:45:18 ◼ ► called Helvetica about how Vatican typography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2718">TS</a>]
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00:45:28 ◼ ► been the same movie with no sorry my sad news there but kind of anything as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2728">TS</a>]
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00:45:44 ◼ ► all right do you have any is comiXology happiness jesus fucking christ no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► not talking about talking about making things worse I mean I yeah I didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2751">TS</a>]
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00:46:13 ◼ ► three listeners who don't also read comics and you might have girlfriends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2773">TS</a>]
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00:46:42 ◼ ► flight and I use it for reading but I like split time between that my Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2802">TS</a>]
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00:46:57 ◼ ► I think comics or the one I don't know the economic I don't know how much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► comiXology had made but it just seems just just without stats to back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► just observing and listening to friends comments are the one thing the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► periodical that really seem to be thriving on the iPad will because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► doesn't matter when you read it well and I think it's combined and and that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► a key issues back issues are just as relevant as current issues and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2847">TS</a>]
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00:47:42 ◼ ► Wednesdays go to the comic book shop I grabbed my stack I go home and during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2862">TS</a>]
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00:47:56 ◼ ► fucking comics and I'm not one of those guys who like putting in bag but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► were just be massive piles of comics around the house and it feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► shame that the wrong now putting them baggies filing them away it's a crying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► shame to throw a good comic book I don't like I've just throw out a comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► sort of person so I went out and got all these long boxes and I put all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► comics and I'm and now I have like 20 bucks 20 long boxes of comics in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► house that I'll probably never opening ever want to throw out so when the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► came around on comiXology came out all of a sudden it got really really easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► read a comic when you're on your iPod on a device on an iPad and it was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► great device to read it it's like the iPad was made for reading comics yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2922">TS</a>]
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00:48:51 ◼ ► know reading of an actual printed comic book is cool and you know and it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► but reading on the iPad especially once the iPad with Retina yeah which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► effectively at this point I'm most all iPads and use it it's just great and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► way that you can zoom and go from the panel so that if it was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► physically small you could just quick tap into zoom and see it was all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► great and and the the nature of comics where one comic book does not take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► long to read a story as usually you know pace bands for five episodes are issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► just works in the way that like been watching TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► works digitally but really just didn't it didn't become a thing until after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► DVD era ended and download over Netflix and iTunes or whatever because you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► say you know what it's only eleven o'clock I've got one more in me and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► was a good episode let's watch one more and it's the same thing with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► comiXology where you got to the end of a good one and just one tap away from yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► just here to take my $2 and give me the next one is like crack right and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► are a couple here in the office there you know there's a few of us who who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► read comics and we we we we were amazed when we realized how much money we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► sinking in a comiXology on a weekly basis because it was just so easy to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► hit me that next time give me that next time and it's three bucks down the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► it's three bucks pin so I am curious where how how severe drop-off they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3034">TS</a>]
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00:50:47 ◼ ► heard people just go to the website in collecting comics for the week but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► thing that doesn't account for just is discoverability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► I would go in I would go in there looking for one comic and I would end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3055">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► reading like for more titles that I'd never heard of before because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► recommending them to me because they were showing up on the featured page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► because I was willing to give them a shot because it's three bucks you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► willing to give something a shot right and you end up discovering all these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► titles that you didn't know about and and now you're buying one every month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► and entire evenings were spent this way and now you have to make a comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► just like in if you're so if you're a casual comic reader and you're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3092">TS</a>]
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00:52:08 ◼ ► because obviously they knew when they acquired them this is what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► yeah and it was going to be a big disappointment to an awful lot has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► a majority of the existing users you know we're going to buy this popular app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► and most of the users are on iPads and now most of them have of significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► worse buying experience yeah I do understand Amazon's motivation not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► wanna give 30% apple pie they knew what they had going in when they buy a newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► going in in the comiXology people knew it going in or should have known it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► simply stopped and asked about it but I see even even with the giving your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3171">TS</a>]
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00:53:07 ◼ ► you're still screw yourself in the long term because the amount that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► crippled the discoverability for new users and of calm and of related comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3192">TS</a>]
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00:53:34 ◼ ► along with was that comiXology was like a comic book shop where you didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► to go to a Marvel comic shop and then drive a couple more blocks take a cab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and go to the Dec comic shop and then go stop in the indie comic shop like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3226">TS</a>]
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00:55:10 ◼ ► the separate universe that's part of being it's not like you know I not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► knowing what channel is certain TV shows on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► everybody kind of knows spider-man is anybody read comics Spiderman is marble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► they know that now right and a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► well yeah I mean that's that's pretty angry I don't know but reading comics on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► the iPad is now the bottom line is that where the blame goes it's it's worse now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► than it was not York's so as a general rule you're not going to make more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► by making something harder for people to use yeah your heart and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► harder to separate them from their money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► yeah because that's always going to be the the stickiest part of the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► mean separating people from their money under the old comiXology model there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► so much lube in that flow like money just flowed out here while it was a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3362">TS</a>]
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00:56:15 ◼ ► totally knows that I mean because that's certainly a big part of the appeal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3375">TS</a>]
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00:56:25 ◼ ► reread all of Ian Fleming's James original James Bond novels and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► pretty short you know like that back in those days you know fifties sixties up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► until I don't know when it changed but novels used to be fairly short and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► know he could put famously you can put the catcher in the rye you put in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► jeans pocket so they were they were short reads and if I read it and I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► had no gas in the tank at night I would just immediately took two types of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► button and I'm reading the next one in the series right which it I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► thinking like that so totally different than the physical days you know physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► books like you know where I even if I'd bought the whole series and had and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► I had like the next one upstairs in my office I might have just gone to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3429">TS</a>]
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00:57:18 ◼ ► I think that comiXology is totally lost yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► and and and now I mean now there's a shopping cart model by the way the by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► the way their website is at Roach's yeah cuz this website predate that yeah if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► you're going to pull this move your website better be fucking great and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3456">TS</a>]
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00:57:50 ◼ ► addict and I think comics readers are addicts is showing a total that's so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► would sit there at night just hitting bye bye bye bye and so i'm i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► buying comics an issue at a time now I go to go to the website and I get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► a totally holy shit and spend $35 comics yeah that's really a lot of money it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/3491">TS</a>]
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01:12:45 ◼ ► excellent too that I did you end up giving it elsewhere I'm giving it now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► that was that was the second time I given that talk and it was so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► my back burner talk I've got like the top that I'm doing this year and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► talk that I'm prepping for next year and that was so the way web stock happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► was kind of weird I got I got an email from from my get web stock was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► guy two weeks before the event that's crazy and it's a two-week flight he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► doing I was a plane literally stopped while I was reading the email to pick me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► up two weeks before the event he said hey will you speak at Webb stock and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► first thought was wow they they are really on top of this there already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► getting speakers for next year and it was a no in two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► ok because this I'd always wanted to go to wake you know this I mean how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► times have I had i bug you like a John you know the people right we can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► invited to web stock I did you did and so two weeks before the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► hey we come down to web stock and I'm like yes definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► ok but here's the deal we want you to give the closing target and we want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► to knock people out of their seats and I'm like we writing you talked for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► two weeks man but I had this talk that I kind of put away for a while and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► thought you know what I think I can I think I can turn that talked into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► talkies looking for I think there's a closing talk hidden in there what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► title how designers destroy the world title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► well here's the story about the title for the first time I gave the talk was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► at Paris web and so they invited me to speak there and I said yeah great I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► love to have this talk about you know how about designers and client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► relationships and how you can develop more empathy with your clients and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► like that sounds great and I'm not not to shit on these guys they were great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► but the talks not for salespeople it's for designers are the conferences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► salespeople that's for designers and I thought that's really fucking weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► things will happen at a car designers ruin the fucking world and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► and she had no I gotta write that talk but that's actually a really good title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► for a talk show that's when the time came from me being an asshole is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► somebody and accidentally coming up with a great title that needed to be back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► you but you haven't given it again since I have am giving it a this year oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► so you you're on the regular a a cycle right you're you're part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► travelling roadshow speaking of podcast sponsors right people can you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► the hell did go to the an Event Apart website and you can look at the schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► and you're you're gonna be given that each of the city's no I'm I'm doing five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► of this year for them whether they're the ones people should know about rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► san Diego is this this weekend where this week so I'll be giving it in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► Diego on Tuesday and then Chicago lost an and for the very first time we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4615">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► going to Disney World and totally Orlando so I'll be cursing at people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► disney world to have you ever been to Disneyworld your big disneyland fan I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► a Disneyland guy we have arguments you and I we argue that's probably the root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► of our animosity towards each other it is and so I think people are genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► surprised and possibly don't believe us when we talk about how much we love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► Disney places I'd I think so too the bed haha yeah I love Disneyland I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► been a disney world but it's it's the thing where you know if I wanna be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► guide if you have somebody says hey you want to go to Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► ya wanna go to Disneyland cuz it yet disney world is weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► I'll have to figure this out I don't know if I want to go to Disneyland with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► you are not going to Disneyland with you you have to come to Disneyland well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► definitely want to go I would like to do it then I would like to go and see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► the Disneyland around the world I would like to see the one in Paris the one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► Japan has apparently the 2012 see because I would totally do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► the back story I've heard is that they got they had like outside investors for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► the one in Japan and they insisted on upping the standards so like in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► that like Disneyland and Disney World have such higher production values and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► standards than your typical theme park that the Disneyland Japan is even higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► than typical Disney standards but here's the thing so Disneyland is the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► and Disneyland as a designer what excites me about Disneyland is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4732">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► was built around amazing constraints they they had they had that plot of land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► which was fenced it was fenced in by the highway and street a freeware they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► couldn't expand and they they had that original design which was basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► hub-and-spoke model where you walk in you walk through mainland you're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► circle you're in the middle of Disneyland and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► radiate out from there so you as you're expanding the part you have to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► out what the hell do you do when you run out of space so haunted mansion for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► example you walk in a haunted mansion and the first thing you do is you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► into that room that that's actually an elevator that looks like it's expanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► but the reason that that room exists is because they have to get you out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► park because they couldn't build the ride in the park they had to build it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► out you know in the bait under the parking lot so they figured so they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► how do we get people down and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► and they came up with this this room which which they've ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► incorporating into every subsequent version of The Haunted Mansion even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► though they didn't have to at that point the other one and the one in Florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► though is not an elevator it goes if you close your eyes and tell you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► you're not moving it just looks like an elevator instead it the walls go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► instead of the floor going down right away which which you know is is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► illusion that being created by the elevator so to me like all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► decisions that were made in Disneyland were made because of real constraints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► that existed and they were creative ways to get around that stuff like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► Indiana Jones ride there did giant walkthrough through the caverns and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► all that crap that you walk through online that's all to get you the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► out of the park because it is that run for it in the park right because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► right is out in the parking lot somewhere three levels down so we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► really there's no there's no indiana Jones right there's an indiana Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► Studios Park but there's no there's no I know I know I've heard them this Indiana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► Jones ride of which you speak but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► that is a part of California Adventure is that is a no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► so so as a designer you know one of the things that we have to deal with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► constraints you can't design without constraints and everything has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► most constrained rate in Disneyland was the most constrain constrained and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► of those design decisions that were made to give to work with those constraints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► are amazing and then you know when they repeated that stuff out and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► parks then that because that it's almost like what other people think design is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► like it like at that point it's just surface level stuff that's i mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► definitely want some point I got it I i no wanna go there while Jonas is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► young enough to one actually go to a Disney park with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► yeah you know it's never the summer never had almost never end up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► Southern California San Francisco several times a year but it's just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► in Southern California to do it well it's right in the middle of Anaheim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► there's not no other place that there's nothing else to do in Anaheim that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► would want to do see the baby and my travel guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► you know what the bottom line note that you've you've put your finger though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► what it is that appeals to the you know gone to the Disney parks for me is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► there's so much design everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► anybody who appreciates design of any sort there's just so much to so can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► think about and and so many details to to notice I don't know every time I meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► somebody who's never been there I've met very few people who've been to one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► the bin like ads kind of a let down here is there's a lot of people who've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► been to one and it's it's I feel like their preconceived notions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► completely spoiled by a great adventure or Hershey Parker you know any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► shit hole like that ya see you know once you the amount of detail that goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► disneyland compared to those other places like when you when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► all the lands in the park like adventure land in Frontierland New Orleans square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► he did you realize just how physically small those areas actually are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► but then if you're standing in Adventureland you were totally immersed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► bye bye Adventureland you can't see the other areas you don't even know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► my single favorite aspect of the whole Magic Kingdom is the sightline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► management and every once in a while they do let you peek through to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► land but it's a deliberate you know at this spot we want you to be able to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► this right it's the most to me it's the most amazing thing the sightline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► their marvels of design the sound of management is amazing to where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► you walk around the park and there's a soundtrack that you don't even notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► cuz it's not super loud and it certainly mostly just hear the sounds of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► part but there's music and the music is deemed to the land but they managed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► transitions were when you're walking from Adventureland to Frontierland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► there's this transition area but the music sucks up so that it as you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► half of the one and half the other it doesn't sound like you're hearing two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► different songs it sounds like something that actually does go together and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► not the same beat and then all of a sudden you're listening to a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► song so we're gonna go to Disneyland somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► what we should do is we should you and I started Disney podcast because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► like if anybody can bring the joy of of Disney to children across the world it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► would be it would be a key would be a podcast for children so listen up jerks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► particular really really grumpy worried something year old man who saw a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► oil all over the details of Disney theme parks could be hit or how long does his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► podcast no one is like a really like halfway through now we're done we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► rollin we're done that's let's call it we're not gonna talk about beats we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► talk about beats we should not attend ten-minute some beats 10 minutes so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► beach thing to me is interesting only as much as the conversations that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► happening about racism yeah like what the fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► that you know and it's funny it didn't even occur to me at first began now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► obviously occurred to me that that certainly you know dr. Dre is black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► he's from the hip hop world it's not like I didn't think that there was any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► correlation at all but it didn't even occur to me yesterday this was yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► when the Financial Times broke the news that a man it still isn't finalized as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► we reported this to my knowledge that Apple is going to buy them but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► like a done deal that's just you know lawyers ironing out details on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► yeah but nothings in announced right unless I missed something in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► hour but now it does seem like some kind of crazy racial subtext thing is popping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► up about it and it's like really just seems nuts to me but not surprising yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5274">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► I mean it's an interesting deal because they don't you know they don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► deals like this and cuz I mean if you're gonna be music service it's weird that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► you buy that one I guess and you know the bottom line is what you don't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► something that you don't need and what is it that they have that Apple needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► and so at first it didn't make sense to me because they don't need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► technology I don't certainly not the hardware technology Apple can make its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► own headphones so they can well head headphones in mice they could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► personally don't mind their your I'm actually using her ear buds right now as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► we speak but I realize though that your buds are very personal thing you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► personal they're very personally I can't stand those earbuds but I know that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5335">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► a lot of people seem just fine with them and that's fine I actually have a pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► of Beats and they sound fine to me but if you ask other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► homemade range like I don't even know what the hell that means honestly yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► don't know what that means you there I just know that I I put them on a listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► to a song and it sounds like i want to sale my hearings broken anyway and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► probably from terrible headphones probably because beat I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► need the technology for the streaming service I mean Apple knows how to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► audino audio and video on the internet for lots and lots of people to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► ones I don't think it's a technical problem that has kept a ball from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► releasing its own modified Dutch sort of Pandora style streaming music service I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► think its licensing and figure out who now I mean licensing ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► think its licensing and figure out who now I mean licensing ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5394">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► that's one thing but I also think it's a sales problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► Lake Apple knows how to sell less than a dozen things really well to you but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► you're once you you're looking at a catalog of thousands Apple doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► how to deal with that at all like Amazon can sell you one of the two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► things Apple can sell you one of 12 and I think that their brows the browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► experience on the Apple TV on on i tunes like it's it just sucks I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► that but maybe and I don't think their recommendation engines very good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► that's beside the point of this acquisition I just don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► they're buying any technology that they couldn't have built themselves but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► are things that they're getting I think especially one day and has a look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► the coverage they're getting I see two angles to things they're getting the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► didn't have and one is that the beach brand appeals to and has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► stature and quite frankly the black america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► you know and it's you know somebody cited there is a Nielsen survey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► seventy-nine but a very remarkably high percent of black americans have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► smartphones and it's actually higher than any other racial group more black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► americans have a smartphone than any other racial group and 73% of the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► people in America who have a smartphone have an Android phone it's an ADS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► disproportionate I think Apple's overall market share in the USA is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► and beats is a real strong brand in black america so they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► something there that's something that's actually that they don't have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► that you don't buy something you already have they don't have that and therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► it might make sense to keep that brand around even though they've never done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► there's never been an apple owned subsidiary that has its own brand unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► you go back to truly prehistoric times like FileMaker FileMaker is a good I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► just thinking but at us and that's it's like how many hundred times more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► have heard of beats and FileMaker maybe a thousand times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► oh absolutely right I'm not sure I'm totally with you with the the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► America thanks and while two white guys talking about black americans can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► rate I mean lots of insight here I don't think it's why they bought it though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► think but I think I think it's more you more about youth to do other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► were one of the things that were equally unqualified to be talking about you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5574">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► cuz I mean when I you know when you know I make it as you know his buddies over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► the majority of a manual trans and and beads so an email as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► yeah this is beyond the realm of this podcast I think going into a discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► well you know i delegates I definitely think it's about getting something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► don't have yeah and I'm intrigued because it's something they haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► before so it'll be fun to watch and it could be a good week ago great week ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► terrible but either way it's a great story yeah I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► the other thing is the relationships that Jimmy ovine and dr. Dre have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► the rest of the you know leadership there i mean you know what's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► Trent Reznor's title there is a chief creative officer and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► that's like a no-show job like when Alicia Keys got the job is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► everybody in the same title chief creative officer of blackberry and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► alright just a fancy way of saying we're paying herded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► and add you know I think Trent Reznor's involved but that they have in this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► some of the stuff I've read today and and there's the legal legal angle which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► is that some people speculated well maybe these these music labels didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► want to negotiate with Apple because they're wary of Apple's overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► influence and downloads you know that their music labels aren't happy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► way it turned out that iTunes so dominates they'd rather have like 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► percent at Amazon 20% and Apple 20% of Google 20% somewhere else so that no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► of the stores has undue influence whereas iTunes I think still has a 70% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► so they're wary of them so they don't want to give them streaming rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► either and so Apple buys beads so that they can have the streaming service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► they've already got the deals in place but my understanding and I think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► of other you know some public information about the way I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► it is that those deals have to be renegotiated if the company has acquired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► yeah I heard that too but I never had the day is that these guys you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► these guys have a really good relationship with the music labels I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► mean Jimmy 0 practically is a music label yeah and that they expect and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► you know there's a couple of stories not just from one source saying that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► guys are gonna stay as involved post acquisition by Apple as they were while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► beat was an independent company and that it's really gives Apple you know could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► think seriously give them a very you know even a further leg up in ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► negotiations not just for music but with the entertainment industry as a whole TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► yeah I think they get a lot of this I think you know there's there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► relationship angle there's the licensing angle and you know there's there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► up a profitable hardware business which I don't think you can scoff at right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► they're they're not publicly held so the numbers are you know you've kind of to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► take their word for it but you know numerous of the reports peg their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► revenues at over a billion a year and presumably at very healthy almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► probably Apple like profit margins because the knock against beats is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► the hedge funds are not technically great they're not audiophiles they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► they're selling them at audiophile prices but there are no Tori ously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► controversial in terms of the audio quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► but that there's no they're not spending $300 to make a $350 headphones so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► it's profitable to not just revenue right and if they did they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► idiots right but it's interesting I to me the most interesting angle and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► this turns out is how they're going to manage the brand that to me is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► uncharted territory and there's people arguing with me on Twitter that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► not uncharted territory for Apple it's you know Tim Cook has been saying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► years that Apple is not averse to big acquisitions blah blah blah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► like I just don't see it yet but but but he hasn't made him until now so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► unchartered territory it could turn out to be a great idea could turn out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► a terrible idea could turn out to be something in between how it whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► put that aside for the moment I just don't see how anybody could deny that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► this is not out of character for Apple as a company is totally out of character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► right passing no judgment on whether it's a good idea about it it is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► yeah and that's why it's interesting exactly right cuz I mean had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► acquired like a mapping companies like I know what they're going to do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► exactly right there they're gonna make it right if it was a mapping company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► they'd make the brand go away and just use the technology to make that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► no idea what they're gonna do this yeah that's exactly why it's so exciting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► I don't understand why people would want to downplay that because here here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► company that we're all interested in and maybe the knock against them is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► they've been a little boring the last year or two and now they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► something that seems it's not doesn't say I was going crazy crazy is the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► uncharted territory well we better off freaked out right I think people care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► about Apple the way they should care about their kids for the most part it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► a fucking company like they make they made good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► some of their stuff is great some of their stuff sucks you know why I one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► reason that people invest too much in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► looking American admit myself included is that nobody else seems to be in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► leak you know that nobody else if you care about having you know top notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► computers in your pocket and in your bag that's absolutely true if they lost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► yeah I mean that's that's a that's very true I wish like just one example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► closest thing I've seen in the last ten years to an Apple quality product is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► Palm Pre smartphones which to me looked like Apple products from another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► universe in some ways they looked more like Apple products from an apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► evolved from the nineties without Steve Jobs you know where we're the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► apple from that 9001 dabbled a lot of cool stuff back then too they were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► trouble but some of the stuff they did was great the Palm Pre was that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► thing and that that that folded that it didn't get off the ground to me was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► tragedy because if palm had you know had gotten had to take off and had you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► like 10 15 percent of the smartphone market man who would be such a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► world today and it would make it would be you know so much less pressure on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► Apple to be the one company making stuff that's not not crap and they push other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► companies to do better i mean we're at Samsung phones be today or where would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6053">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► Windows Phones be today right when i phone is probably the next best thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► that's what I would probably use it if you know some kind of court order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► forbidding me from using an iPhone died almost certainly switch to a Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► but Windows Phone would be just an evolution of the steaming pile of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► it wasn't 2007 if it wasn't for the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► all right let's wrap it up I gotta do you have a pair of Beats headphones have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► to do you really see that's interesting see I don't and you do I do like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► honest question before I before we before you go do you think they're built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► well let's leave aside the the audio quality part because I'm with you on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► ears are shooting I i really as long as it sounds clear and i can understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► good to me but are they so they well-made headphones better there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► they're they're made better than they used to be so the first pair of Beats I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxh14ns/6111">TS</a>]
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