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00:00:25 ◼ ► many beverages and it was because I wasn't there to watch you do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/25">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► their love for me to watch so that I saw that would that would know how much was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/32">TS</a>]
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00:00:49 ◼ ► numbers for the traffic but the traffic on the floor was decent and I can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/49">TS</a>]
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00:00:59 ◼ ► North also writes we're in a weird but different right and I can you know so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/59">TS</a>]
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00:01:09 ◼ ► alright because the last couple of years it was in moscow near West which is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/69">TS</a>]
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00:01:24 ◼ ► subterranean training there did not you know like a euphemism for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/84">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► lives you literally go down and it seemed that seemed like the the show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/91">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► maybe a maybe just a little bit smaller than last year I don't know but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► same time it also just seemed like there was less just junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/102">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► symbol for a long time particularly after the iPhone came out there was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/107">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► got flooded with crappy cases and stuff like that and they're still in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/112">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► still a little confused little sort of their their the the booze that are hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/119">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► hockey in Hocking the cheapest possible your phones and and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/127">TS</a>]
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00:02:17 ◼ ► maybe a couple of the large like he wasn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► Romney has for years had a big booth and they didn't have didn't have a booth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/140">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► there this year but they also just seemed like there was a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/144">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► jungles cut out to which was nice yeah I remember specifically in 2011 because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/150">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► had to be 2011 because it was the first year after the iPad was original iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/157">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► was announced and it really seemed like half the booths were for like either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/162">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► iPad cases or and it was such a huge thing and once you notice that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► couldn't help saying it like every other booths selling it like right attachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► arms that you could attach an iPad 2 to make it like hang on a wall or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/177">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► any sort of just like they were throwing everything up against rain any snap onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/183">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► an iPad and it was a robot arms and you know just ways that you would like hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/192">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► it in a cubicle all these insights from our thinking I can see how late in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/197">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► rare case somebody needs this thing but I can't imagine how have these booms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/203">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► could be selling these you know how many people actually need to hang in there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► paddle yeah and they were booed their single pues the just head literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► hundreds of different iPhone cases right back then and I did seems like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/216">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► stuff is kinda dried up as its well yeah right I think it's not that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/222">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► selling that the that the industry as a whole is selling fewer iPad cases are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► probably something more than ever because more iPads than ever it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► that the the sort of gold rush mentality ok we're going to be a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/237">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► makes these we better get a booth you know all these trade shows yes is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/243">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► what about the conference had a pretty well I didn't go to a huge number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/250">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► said I wasn't there was only there two days and I was on one panel and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/256">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► went to a couple others in the ones that are good that the one that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/261">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► liked was the target to get the name run it's led to the rapid fire I think when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/269">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► they get they got like eighteen people come up and talk about something for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/275">TS</a>]
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00:04:44 ◼ ► really good set of examples of like different technologies in also just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/284">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► ways to do things that I went in there and then i feel myself taking notes so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/290">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► lot of times I think that's a great format and it's it's like it's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/297">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► that Twitter can be a more efficient means of communication even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► struggling at first to fit your ideas you know whatever it is you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► convey in 240 characters once you do it's the condensed nugget of the message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/309">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► are trying to get a part and that's the same thing with those three three-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/317">TS</a>]
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00:05:25 ◼ ► inside a pretty funny is the iFixit guy yeah try some people crazy because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/325">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► railed against Apple for making devices that are you know more or less and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► fixable over the years but a trend right but he had a hit again we would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/339">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► like to talk about it easy ways to fixture your devices and then and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► threw in a bunch of them that he was obviously pretending worries me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/349">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► yeah his stride trying to get a night trying to get an iPad Mini open I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/356">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► never going to try to get an iPad Mini oh yeah you know what I have to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/362">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► don't even know the lake is this thing they have to buy and you put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/368">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► microwave heated up and then you have to apply it to the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► Tulisa now like some of the gum underneath or something like that so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/378">TS</a>]
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00:06:29 ◼ ► adhesive that attaches rights going right right and then you have to stick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/389">TS</a>]
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00:06:40 ◼ ► that your pricing support with ya hear ya his his status has been the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/400">TS</a>]
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00:06:51 ◼ ► single design decision that Apple makes with any of its devices that ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► making it hard for them or other third-party fix-it shops to fix these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/414">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► things he attributes to solely to liking money despite a money-making grab on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/420">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► Apple's part and that it has nothing to do with the obvious which is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/430">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► these devices is ridiculously thin and light as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/435">TS</a>]
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00:08:11 ◼ ► can still hear information I guess right here live on the talk show I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/491">TS</a>]
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00:08:24 ◼ ► my thanks working into things that my thanks to our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/504">TS</a>]
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00:09:05 ◼ ► has told me out but I hate it here because they do about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/545">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► what i'll do is some of those two is just a waste their time I want that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► hard because it then you don't want to talk to me they just want me to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► their fishing website which I haven't seen that before until late last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/558">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► when I start getting these calls but if it's only usual one where they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/563">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► you know press one to speak to a representative I'll do it if if I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► busy US press one and then I'll just try to waste their time in a jerk on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► phone for a couple minutes I don't have the final I never hit me never answers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/576">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► hate answering the phone which is my mother in scene right because she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► generational wealth on costs could be a real phone call right tackle social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/590">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► obligation to answer the phone what kind of a person makes a phone call hell yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/597">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► that's the only thing I also don't make phone calls you and I are good friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► we've been friends for many years I think it's a very very high likelihood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/606">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► of you and I have never once made a phone call to each other I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► have your number I know I wouldn't give you mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► yeah but I don't need your number 12 different ways and get a hold you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/618">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► never them involved calling you on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► although I do it does occur to me though that I think and so for example were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/630">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► talking about going to Macworld Expo so-called I know if I can to Macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/635">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► what they call it the official name at Macworld iWorld / well you spell it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/643">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► way but you know / the silent but we've been going it's actually mackerel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/649">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► divided by world we've been going I don't even know when I first heard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/655">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► it sometime in the 2001 and San Francisco and you know we are friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/659">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► will will have adult beverages and happy hour and we have you know circle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/667">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► other friends we often meet with I don't remember how the ever coordinated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► before we had iPhones as I had a cell phone but you know it was just stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/676">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► little one with nine buttons I mean you could tax but it was like to get a C you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► had to hit the two button three times you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► certainly wasn't using that much I don't remember how we coordinated stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/690">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► don't need any other e-mail I guess how did we check our email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/695">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► yeah I mean we do we take laptops everywhere and how we we could only use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/702">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► among we're on wifi and I don't remember there being WiFi Mac relax against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/707">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► recalled I mean I guess we and i know i guess i didnt i didnt i didnt go to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/711">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► before I will I guess I actually my first one was the one with the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► was introduced so I only went to one without an iPhone I don't remember how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/720">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► we don't remember how adults coordinated things like hey let's all meet for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► drinks tomorrow we used to just where we used to meet at sessions which still has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/731">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► done a good responses during a session you hang out the session then you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/737">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► to them and yeah and somebody would make an initial decision and somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/741">TS</a>]
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00:12:34 ◼ ► together basically a travel in packs to go take a leak because everybody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/754">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► get up and go and get lost you have no idea whether are our good friend Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/762">TS</a>]
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00:13:23 ◼ ► setting up like a board what's the class bored Glassport yeah yeah but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/803">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► another one that requires an iPhone right task for a little ad hoc social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/810">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► temporary social group but I mean in fact it's almost like the ideal use case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/816">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► of class bored but again and requires an iPhone and I remember it yeah no doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/823">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► on the missed out on a lot back then what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/833">TS</a>]
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00:14:04 ◼ ► is that somehow though the fact that I don't remember makes me think that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/844">TS</a>]
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00:14:31 ◼ ► are some in there and then you went through that tunnel to self and that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/871">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► auditorium there which i think is where you give you give your talk that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► your keynote that one year it was a single room I don't know if it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/882">TS</a>]
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00:14:54 ◼ ► which was where they like them big presentations were yeah we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► taking in moscow myself but it's just connected to not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/897">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► yeah there's often vendors in there too and I've never understood never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/906">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► understood how that how that came to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► yeah this year is just all in all of north is North the bigger one or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/916">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► smaller one this morning it's the small one small one cause I remember when I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/925">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► pleased to go through everything they used to have the big stuff and self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/929">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► right where as Apple's booth was and then like a little like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/934">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► Northwoods was more of the ghetto right like the little small companies one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/941">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► it was always my head but then tighten tone was was still in itself I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/946">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► it just it seemed like I think the less expensive boots were in North background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/953">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► did you add to see marion was born there now I didn't see marlon this year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/960">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► don't think he became came out for the show i believe was marlin who coined yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/965">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► is always my favorite place to talk to people talk to the bill yeah yeah cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/973">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► it's that is the place where you see the people who either a have like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/979">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► clever new things you've never heard of before and you're actually genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/984">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► like wow I just learned about a new thing this is why this is why this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/988">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► good legitimate business expenses I just learned something I wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► learned otherwise or be this person is crazy this person has a crazy idea I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/997">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► cannot believe that they have a company set up to do this but they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► they're fascinating talk to 45 minutes about that yeah yeah yeah yeah there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► serenity Caldwell was telling me about it they had some home automation hub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► can't remember exactly what does bill is like everything that you use will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► connect into it and just how are you gonna do that I we we publish an API so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► they added they had a real build it if you build it they will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► everyone was going to be looking into their system just because what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► mean know that everything would like your for your iPhone and you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► device that you wanted to control your home from a run into their system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► because everybody would build it would build into good luck with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► what about smart watches and stuff like that and you can see I didn't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► any of that stuff really didn't see any of the names that we we know because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► that's the stuff that really exists other than pebble which isn't really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► trade shows at this point rate I don't know if they do question but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► see people there don't think they were there and then the other stuff is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► Android tyson is its advertising stuff isn't even shipping though is it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► just like an ounce yeah I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► about Google glass everywhere in the class as someone purse I saw one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► wearing Google glass and I think that's the whole even the whole time I saw one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► person in the shower with glass and I didn't see anybody else wearing it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► San Francisco which was quite surprised that has even been allowed to San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► Francisco in a couple months but I know I remembered even back at WWDC which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► yeah yeah so about nine months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► see a couple times a day somebody either in WWDC either in the somebody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► actually attending or just out and about in the streets of San Francisco you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► somebody you know it obviously wasn't a huge thing but it was it sticks out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► enough that it you know you always notice it especially if you're from out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► of town but it seems to me like the we've already reached peak class yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► mean and in their own there are enough San Francisco's having enough social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► problems with class right now that if you own glass you're probably thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► when you go out maybe I'll go out for a drink or whatever may be able to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► the glass home and you know that could change in the future if if they come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► with a new version that is less noticeable yeah I'm sure it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► partners right you may not even be able to go out without it right it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► it's either going to fade away and they're going to just sort of brush it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► under the rug and you know say I forgot about that or it's going to get less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► noticeable so that could change but the glass as we know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► these Explorer hits you know it's I think that the naysayers were exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► right that things are ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► expose where it was still taking off if people were still wearing them you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► have seen more than one is just a break in a year ago you sought more frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► right yeah I guess I was surprised as I just a thought that everybody would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► kinda get the feeling too with the whole Android where announcement that its I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► you know I I have no inside knowledge of what the hell Google is up to so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► know they could have an amazing new glass to point out ready to announce you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► know any week now but I kinda get the feeling that Android where is sort of ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► forgot about class now we're going with it with the stuff with the watches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► yeah amulets that's a good idea right and get away with dr. strange yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► like doctor or whatever flavor Flav yeah sure and that's what it is that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► you that's where you know that something's really good as when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► have a celebrity spokesperson I don't understand why anybody does that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► celebrity spokesperson celebrity spokesperson just is it just reeks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► desperation to me but somebody must be telling me nine maybe they have numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► that I don't never seem to like HDD dragging poor Robert Downey jr. to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► about how great HTC is using HTC phone I can see it for just for the commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► if you gonna you know like for example I don't think I never liked Apple's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► know celebrity ads either right they have their heads so we shall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► was it martin scorsese deniro yeah I know is it says in the back seat of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► cab talking to Serie A which was the one that I think was the most problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► because a he was in midtown Manhattan and you don't whatever you whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► experience with serious like I mean it still depends on having a working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► international internet connection and B Martin Scorsese famously is you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► of the fastest speakers in the world and you know to have that Ratatat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► conversation with syria was really stretching the limits of belief for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► anybody who actually use Siri especially when he's tried to Syrian but again they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► do they weren't having those those celebrities as as they were just dating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► commercials they weren't the brand ambassador or you know like on stage at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► events I think that's slightly less less bad brand ambassador thing and then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► then and then the even worse part is director of creative right like Alicia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► Keys right let's just like a few million dollars on fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► it doesn't even make any sense that I mean that's the thing you know listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► she one of the ones to where it was like she unannounced as their director of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► creativity as though she had like a serious like executive job like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► title showing up every day and move moving up to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► to Canada and then you know wasn't she one of the ones who somebody got caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► I try not to link to these things because it's it's a little bit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► that she tweeted something in it and the metadata was like Twitter for high from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► who believes that like I just can't imagine the meeting where they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► let's have let's get somebody like Alicia Keys to be our creator of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► director of creativity yeah like who is it that they think that actually makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► difference to like most people are never gonna hear about the news no you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► even BlackBerry customers are never gonna see anything that says Alicia Keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► is the name that director of creativity but even those who do hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► who actually would think that's a great idea somebody who's never designed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► cell phone or any kind of understanding of software or consumer electronics is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► now the director of creativity for this brand that's great to see if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► whole collection to be made of really stupid business ideas like bed and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► other thing that always just baffles me is Wall Street analyst for forums and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► know they do this deliberately to get headlines about their firm just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► saying crazy stuff about Apple shipped Chaudhry is a pretty good example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► that I mean the guy who actually has like an $800 target on Apple and yet he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► says the company is gonna go out of business if they don't ship and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► watched two months I think we're down by fifty days now and if if nobody's made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► trip Chowdhry cock then somebody should get on that immediately was about 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1547">TS</a>]
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00:27:03 ◼ ► take the kids and then San Francisco guilty town in November so that's it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► mean that's a great lineup that's unbelievable numbers cities is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► them has got to be close to you if you love someone who s who speaks their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► founded by Eric Meijer CSS guru and Jeffrey zelman leaders of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► standards-based member list and web standards were like a new thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► that anything that people had to had to fight over right and now it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► had like it was like a thing you had to support downtrodden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► a dangerous species or something people were putting little bikinis on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► avatars and now it's just like you know you don't do it at your own peril [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► yeah it's they've actually it seemed like an uphill it seemed like that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► of battle that you're never gonna win based on the guys to put the rack up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► hill and succeed in its in its pronounced strangely because you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1681">TS</a>]
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00:28:46 ◼ ► with you think died I think I think it goes unremarked upon and know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► there's san Francisco is almost like the epicenter of of a lot of controversies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► this year in terms of like this income inequality and the buses they're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► train people who you know to Google and Apple and stuff like that and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► totally see I i mean if anybody has ever been to like the actual valley where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► Apple's campuses I've never been to Mountain View so I know exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► Google's campuses like but that whole area I can totally see especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► you're young you know before either but before you get why you'd want to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► San Francisco rather than live anywhere down there but san Francisco has a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► city I wouldn't want i i wouldn't want to live there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► yeah I wouldn't either I mean I like living in this city city personally we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► live close enough I can I could walk to downtown from here if I really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► so it's nice it's nice being close to something but yeah that's that's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► much for me and they and they have a you know they have a lot of home once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► have also both it so they have a lot of hummus and they have a lot of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1806">TS</a>]
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00:31:04 ◼ ► the name of the place but it's a guy who came from New York and he they make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1864">TS</a>]
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00:33:14 ◼ ► and then like 501 the garage door goes up inside there's a there's a restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/1994">TS</a>]
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00:33:39 ◼ ► went into two he was paying the cab be back in a put his hand around the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2019">TS</a>]
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00:34:06 ◼ ► was so good how's it busy Mac oh yeah they came out with a with a busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2046">TS</a>]
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00:34:21 ◼ ► like Apple's context which was might be understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2061">TS</a>]
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00:34:54 ◼ ► to the iPhone sits on the top but they also have an epi like it directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2094">TS</a>]
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00:35:26 ◼ ► buy another $100 device and the prices have come down a little bit since since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► it first came out but they're not all out of box now but still they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2131">TS</a>]
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00:35:51 ◼ ► take the pictures or is there some way that is there like an API that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2151">TS</a>]
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00:36:01 ◼ ► bill tend to do it and I bought a couple little things that but just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► Bluetooth waterproof speaker for the shower in the shower and and then I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2172">TS</a>]
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00:36:34 ◼ ► speaker it's a whole gotta get into the groove change it's a process change ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► process and there was this like off way up to the corner there was this booth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► Japan and they had and they had a bunch of different stuff and I finally figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2213">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► I feel that after the fact I thought it was like one company but I guess this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► like an import company that was sorting stuff from different vendors but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► had these battery charges you like a portable battery thing they were better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► price than some of the other ones that had seen in other booze and and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► it's a Japanese manga character called Dan member but it's the company's name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2246">TS</a>]
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00:37:47 ◼ ► bored and it looks like this card little cardboard guy and so it's the cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► guys head and you play if it's a box and plug it in and it charges something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► you can charge your iPad or your iPhone was it and when when it runs starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► running down his eyes blink red like he's angry so it's got a call and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2282">TS</a>]
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00:38:19 ◼ ► milled aluminum iPhone bumpers and an impressive guy and me hold it as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2299">TS</a>]
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00:39:16 ◼ ► get to share the same person on there so the company is that it was the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2356">TS</a>]
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00:40:09 ◼ ► was much less powerful and also just look like a like a black tube yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► like buying the just a little power brick type Chargers even heard of a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► in the ass you have to bring a cable and its extra pain in the ass you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► have a second cable to charge the charger because to me it but they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► use the same and I gotta now I've got a bunch of devices that use the USB mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► adapter anyway so I just take one right USB mini in your suitcase but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► can charge anything with it you can charge an iPad with it you can charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2438">TS</a>]
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00:41:09 ◼ ► year Thunderbolt stuff was still kind of his father was a que te it seemed like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► thunderbolt stuff this year was a little bit more mature a little bit more to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► and they have ever raid Thunderbolt devices 256 gigabytes flash based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2485">TS</a>]
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00:41:51 ◼ ► bit more maturity in the Thunderbolt offerings there this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► remember last year there was almost nothing yeah I called the drives for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2514">TS</a>]
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00:42:10 ◼ ► Thunderbolt or Firewire anymore they still have the wrong man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2530">TS</a>]
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00:42:33 ◼ ► law just was shopping for a new MacBook and was shocked that that like the heirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► and the new MacBook Pros don't come with a disk drive from movies which is funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2560">TS</a>]
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00:43:14 ◼ ► anything else was from the show car mount thing but it's just like when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2594">TS</a>]
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00:43:28 ◼ ► iPhone case because another ticket from just slap it on there when you get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2608">TS</a>]
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00:44:14 ◼ ► still connect to the internet without being without using their without using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2654">TS</a>]
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00:45:15 ◼ ► enjoying it lately but anytime I have a terrible record last couple of months of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2715">TS</a>]
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00:45:28 ◼ ► some way there still is still a firewire 800 port in the mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► that's because the mini hasn't been updated and yeah yeah probably gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► probably go with the next which will be where's the MacRumors buying they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► MacRumors buying guide you know why I don't even see words listen there it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/2747">TS</a>]
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01:13:36 ◼ ► close probably 8 years old and I know that I paid over $600 and and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► knowing I bought them knowing that I don't wear glasses usually it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► from sick or something you know I'm flying sometimes I won't put my contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► in because it's a I prefer not to sleep in context of gonna try to sleep on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4432">TS</a>]
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01:14:06 ◼ ► but at least back then it was and I think that's one of things but they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► yeah now it's no upsell on any of that stuff get the anti reflective lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► when you go to a night when I went it was such a total of upsells scam it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► like right here right it was like the the regular lenses are made out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► material they made that the first iPod Nano out of your finger now I get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► don't want these lenses there they're made out of like a puppy and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4475">TS</a>]
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01:14:44 ◼ ► they've actually gotten it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► scratch proof in the clear proof and cost $300 years long long time ago I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► found a pair in my grandfather's house I found a pair of my dads or glasses from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4494">TS</a>]
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01:15:08 ◼ ► cool but then eventually they brokers from the forties right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► used to be the you know the classes are actually of course glass and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► found like an old pair of glasses like that they were incredibly heavy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► it's not just a you can get glasses sunglasses if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► prescription lenses and they're not they're they're heavier than plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► lenses but they're not super heavy because they're they're not prescription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► but the prescription make some thicker and yeah I can enter time I did they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► had have glass put into those because they were too small for my prescription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► was so bad I guess they hadn't invented like the super thin i mean they hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► the technology with the plastic wasn't good enough to actually make the Glens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► it's small enough to put in those old frame so that these class like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► that's you know like a cliché that somebody has coke coke bottle but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► think my ambitions probably bad enough or if I'd been around forty years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► fifty years ago I would have liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► terrible what else is going on we got to the Microsoft Office came out this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► for the iPad yeah which is a pretty big news as it should have remembered but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► somebody said that they've traded they've decided to give up on world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► domination and settle for relevance which are a little little harsh but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► sort of true I think you know cause I think try and dominate in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► way really and you're not you're done you're trying to dominate with your with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► your apps rather than trying to dominate with your operating system cuz it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► really the you know that's I guess the big question is why did it take so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► and I think that the best explanation I think it's probably more complicated if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4614">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► you know I'm sure that instead internal to Microsoft it's a long long story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► I think you know you could probably sums it up is Steve Ballmer didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► have office on the iPad because he didn't want to give the iPad anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► credence in the business world they had a mean he assumed it was him for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► most part of that whole marketing scheme of making everything Windows is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► dot com waffled that would test out net send a link I actually do shoulders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► then the other thing actually not sure if this actually happened but Mary Jo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► Foley was had heard that they're gonna change Windows Azure Microsoft Azure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► ya next batter sense that is going to if it's true it would be announced next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► week at my bill yeah you know it's actually funny about that I tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► what's funny so I miss macworld yeah I know it's funny I'm actually going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► it at bill next week I will visit San Francisco and there is a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► that I'm going to have a sort of the talk show that I'll be hosting live from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► built but I think it's only going to be for build attendees so those of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► listening and we're going to build I don't know how it's going to turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► cause I don't do i do you know anybody who's going to attend build listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► the talk show I don't know I've been told that it should be well-attended I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► kind of fearful that it's gonna be like three people in the audience but anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► who's listening right now to these words before ordering build I think on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► Thursday the date can be on Thursday Thursday the 3rd of April I believe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► gonna have a live episode of the talk show from built in moscow and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4746">TS</a>]
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01:19:26 ◼ ► branch should be with me now yeah it's prolly get you branch but yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► what I i I saw Mary Jo Foley is reporting that make sense to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► it's gonna they're gonna stop using this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► couldn't be more clearly a sort of look this was sort of bombers things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► everything gets called windows where there is a need to do with windows and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► think with Azure it's actually maybe the worst case of that ever because and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► know and her explanation for it and it makes total sense to me is it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► puts the wrong message in developers mines where you're thinking well Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► Azure must be something for your windows for you know whether you're writing PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► Windows or Windows Phone its some kind of cloud thing for Windows developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► where it's really not it is absolutely could not be more platform agnostic it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► is just a way to run code in the cloud and you can you know program in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► you want your not programming you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► using Windows programming languages unless you want to you know and but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► could just use know . Jas or anything so called Microsoft Azure i think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► yeah and it just seems like you have an apple I feel like that right with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► iPhone 4 as it's not you know could set the Mac phone is something completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► different and you also bring in people who might have had a negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► connotation was your previous products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► yeah that's a that's a whole new it's a fresh start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► yeah it's a perfect analogy really that calling it calling it the Mac phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► whether you think it's a good name or not but even this say that Mac phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► suffice it to say that hypothetically we all agree that it's a cool name in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► theory it would still have been a terrible idea I think marketing lies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► like you said it would have made it might have made people who have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► thought model Mac is this weird computer that's not like my computer and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► get it and it's not I think it's like god-like compatibility problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► with myself given a new name and let it be its own thing and it starts it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► funny it's funny that they did that with the iPod they i mean because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► beginning it was really only it wasn't until later and famously you know as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► now know in hindsight that Steve Jobs wanted to keep it back home right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► wasn't like they had the idea or at least jobs denied the idea right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► the start that they would eventually expand to Windows compatibility with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► iPod it was but they still gave it its own name I think was smart yeah so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► seems like there was maybe it was just like a general mindset in the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► in the early two thousands that had to push their platforms at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► and got out of their minds that Microsoft is only now getting out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► I'm super you know the couple reasons I'm going to build but I really do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► just have like this sort of Sixth Sense like spidey sense that it's going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► the CEO change of Microsoft is a really big deal and I it's you know that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► really are going to see exciting new stuff from Microsoft and thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4974">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► truthfully you know for the first time since I've been doing this stuff during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► fireball in the talk show you know this the last ten years or so I am so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► more interested in what Microsoft is up to them at any point that holier right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► and I was I've had a very big change in my my outlook just within the past six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► months because six months ago I was you know Apple stock AAPL stock does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► Microsoft Microsoft stock was still inching up even though they effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► had no CEO and to me it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► and and it seemed like the coverage was just sorta like well we'll have to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► you soon and give it a bit Apple without a CEO you wouldn't be able to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► without being under the avalanche of negative stories that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► out there and yet somehow it seemed like nobody believed was that bothered by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► fact that Microsoft didn't have a national CEO so I I thought the outlook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► for the company was possibly extremely negative and the fact that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► picked up a pic to think it was as turned out pretty well so far anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► yeah I agree and I think that I get the feeling that build is going to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► jealous coming-out party I mean I could be wrong and it could be like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► boring keynote everywhere they don't have much new to announcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► whatever but I kinda get the feeling like no I kind of feel like no this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► yeah I feel like maybe they'll be allowed to talk about next week that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► stuff that we don't even know yet because it's they've they're keeping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► under a sleeping in her room and I know it's exciting though to mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► there's that they're sort of like a slumbering giant that's why I'm waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5095">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► for the first person to write this the story about how it's a bad sign that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► didn't go to Macworld you're going to build yeah I hope nobody makes a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► ideally I would have gone to both its just I had like the new dates from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► Macworld just didn't work out with a previous commitment family thing but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► the airlines are still writing about Apple that would have been regular any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► wonder I don't know I would if I could have I would have gone to both its just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► so unusual coincidence but I do feel like it's it is sort of an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► sign of the times though I don't know I think it's kind of interesting that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► miss macworld I'm going to be built well if it would be more comfortable thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► would be to EDC right rather than macworld right have you looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► office for iPad apps I looked at them briefly I haven't paid for 360 yet and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► don't really plan to do I did download them just to see what they look like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► they look a little similar to what they did for the surface which i think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► pretty good I was surprised I was surprised when the service came out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► it was actually that much different than the desktop versions of the regular old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5174">TS</a>]
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01:26:25 ◼ ► fine they look like if i dont have don't have any need for them anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► yeah that's the thing is I don't use the word processor anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► yeah and I don't mean other than using it for yapping about this for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► but other than using them for business like if you work in an office that uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► office then sure it makes sense because you might want to do some editing do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► some work on an iPad but I don't know if I was just a consumer I don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► would pay that much money you know people don't make people pretty printing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► out those newsletters anymore I don't know it's interesting so that the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwgA_sk/5224">TS</a>]
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