00:00:00 ◼ ► you geared up to stark cute girls at ski lot can you imagine not having Galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► Garrett CES it's like they don't even let you in hand them out at the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/13">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► I saw I took up the ass I know why I took a stupid polarized somebody like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/20">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► time magazine site today it was like answer these questions and will predict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/31">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► your political leaning and they're not political questions are sensibly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/37">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► know it's not like you know what you think about gun control or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/44">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► 72% conservative according to this and one of them was that conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/51">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► qualities was that I like dogs more than cats interesting but I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/57">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► that's I think that's nonsense I mean I'm not saying that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/62">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► there's any kind of I don't know maybe I'm wrong maybe if you polled thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► people maybe you know maybe conservatives do like dogs more than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/71">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► don't know seems crazy to me it seems that the Internet has embraced cats more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/77">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► than dogs I don't know why but I don't like yeah just lost a lot of my audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/84">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► retailer baseball now we should talk about we can talk about the poppies yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/96">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► well for people who don't know there's there's a bourbon is a very complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/102">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► story but there's a bourbon brand called Pappy Van Winkle and and I guess they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► were out for awhile you know like back in the seventies or eighties I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► know they brought it back and they had this old fashioned they've had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► high-end brand and they have various vintages age there's tenure Pappy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/122">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► twelve-year Pappy's thirteen-year old ride which I believe since its rise an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/130">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► entirely different mash really sort of it's the same brand but it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► beverage there's a fifteen-year Pappy's twenty year and then there's a 23 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/139">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► think long story short you know it was sort of aficionados brand and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/147">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► the order is the more expensive was it was always a little hard to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► little expensive but then somehow at some point in the last two years or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► it it like exploded and everybody got on you know kind of caught on to the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/160">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► legal stuff is fantastic and now it's impossible to get what I had never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/168">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► of it until until there was a scandal about it being stolen or something I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/174">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► never heard of it and then like I don't know six months ago or something it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► like a piece is a huge deal you need to care about it I had never heard of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/186">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► there was there was an inside job at the at the end of it to the distillery or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/192">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► it's just where they store it but it was an inside job and a whole bunch of cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/197">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► about six months ago nobody died I believe that crime is still gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► unsolved you know in pennsylvania has everybody was joking about that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/206">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► pennsylvania's weird state where everybody including bars has to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/216">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► stuff through the state and I don't think it's very tricky for bars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► obtain it but a local establishment we're very close to me here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► great barbecue place also help you know clearly a great bar Percy Street BBQ at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/230">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► 9th and South here in philadelphia got their hands on the full the full six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/236">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► flights for six varieties of of stuff of an illegal distillery and had a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/243">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► event yesterday at five o'clock I had no idea how was gonna go but I figured it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/250">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► was going to fill up quick so I got there before five which was good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/255">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► I think they said by like 515 route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► well what they did and it was pretty smart so they had all six I I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/262">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► but think they had more of the lesser varieties but when you came in the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/268">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► for the event there is a guy at the front door and you had to tell there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► a limit of three ounces per patron of anything you can only a person can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/277">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► get three houses and you had to pick it as you came in and they would give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/283">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► little chip so I i picked two ounces of 23 in one ounce at twenty so I got two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/287">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► chips 423 14 20 and then you know you could use that as you want it I wanted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/294">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► single to outpour of 23 I could've turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► I went 111 I went 123 one of the 22 sorting see what the difference was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/305">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► animal back to the 23 and they advertise it is not breaking the bank because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/313">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► think they could have charged an arm and a leg for the stuff but they charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/319">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► yeah that's part of the legend to that cost $200 for a glass of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/324">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► yea well and then now that it's gotten crazy like I mean quick look on ebay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► here people are selling one thing he searched from on eBay for for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/335">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► what you find are empty bottles people just selling bottles which I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/345">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► but think I mean who wants an empty I mean maybe I can see why some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/350">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► might want to keep a bottle that they drank if it was a special occasion keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► it as a memento or something like that but why would you want to buy an empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/361">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► bottle from somebody else unless you were looking to like going out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/367">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► you know don't get it when I was in like high school and colleges to order a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/374">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► of beer branded nonsense off ebay you know Zippo lighter and inflatable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/381">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► fishing stuff just weird like Miller High Life crap which I thought was cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► but yeah I don't know why he would order an empty bottle of I've heard I i cant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/393">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► even find some people have said that you know I'm not a legal it is and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► in certain states it's legal to sell alcohol on ebay but you know but that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/404">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► the second hand market the 23 year Pappy Van Winkle is going for like took $2,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/409">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► $2,500 a bottle cuz it's just you can't get it you know the retail price the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► retail price for the 23 is is a couple hundred bucks and is it is it awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/420">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► I don't think any bourbon is worth a couple hundred bucks about that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/427">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► know I mean like I like to spend the money I do like to indulge and buy good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/432">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► stuff you know I like bourbon so I like to buy good bourbon but to me it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/436">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► even what I could theoretically afford it I get a certain point it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► bourbon you know you can't drink that much of the time and I'm very very I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/449">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► feel pretty confident that I would fail you know to to do a Pepsi challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/455">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► between you know you know that I I don't know that I could taste the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/461">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► between like you can you can if you put six Bourbons in front of me and said one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/467">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► of these is 23 Pappy Van Winkle I'm not entirely sure all that I could figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► that does it have a happy in general doesn't have a strong noticeable taster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/478">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► flavors and just urban the one thing that came out recently is that the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/485">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► thing that they do differently than a lot of other burdens are almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/491">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► the Bourbons is that they have a higher for now it's it's all in all wheat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/496">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► they don't they put the minimum amount corn in and that there's another bourbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/503">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► called JL weller which is made from the same match there is this thing I linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► to on during fireball month or two ago which tried to explain the complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/517">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► relationship between various Bourbons in rise in Kentucky and Tennessee and Ohio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/524">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► and other places where the made in the USA where there's all these early just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/530">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► to rats right the AM or less where there's only a couple of what they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► the day start with a mash mash sold to these distilleries to turn into bourbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/538">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► but you know and presumably what happens is they'll take the same match that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/544">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► Pappy's the Pappy Van Winkle distillery will buy it and they'll put it put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/550">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► into barrels for aging and then they'll sample these every couple years just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/556">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► see how this battle going how's this going and that the better the barrel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/563">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► more the longer you know they'll let it go and only the best of those barrels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► will go for the full 23 years and then the lesser ones will you know they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/571">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► say ok this one was his bottle this one in ten this ones you know it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► to get any better than the bottle it but that there's this other brand jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/579">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► weller which is it retails for like I think it's like 18 19 bucks a bottle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/583">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► it's made from the same mash is Pappy and that it effectively in a poor man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/589">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► pappy it's more or less like the same match but they the stuff that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► good enough to be turned in the keys and that it does taste a lot like poppies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► ginger ale and it just so they don't put any ride at all in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/604">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► mash and so you know if you know just basic American whiskeys you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/614">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► difference between bourbon in rise that rise sort of pepper and hot is the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/621">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► difference him a basic bourbon and a basic right Pappy's to me and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► just knowing that it doesn't have riots like sort of the taste of it is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► what rise to bourbon happy is the opposite to regular bourbon it's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► separate less hot and smoother and really is a lot more drinkable need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/642">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► anyway the tasting was pretty cool yeah but you know it and I did I Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/648">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► today because I gotta go there but it was like a one time only 15 minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► communicate these tokens and it came out of it that's a bride Tokyo and I brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/661">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► back from some whiskey but haven't really had a chance to crack into it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/667">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► the other thing I thought was definitely true side-by-side going from the 23 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/674">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► absolutely tasted the difference the 23 which I I think I only had once before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/680">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► in my life and it was on a trip to Vancouver three or four years ago with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/689">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► bunch of friends for somebody's birthday and it was before the whole Pappy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► thing exploded and me my pal gym ray saw it on the list of available disk and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/700">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► can this possibly be and was like a totally reasonable price per poor I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► don't like $20 a poor and we we asked to really get shorts 23 shows the bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/715">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► and you know I'd like to have him $20 report which was unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/722">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► but anyway that I think the difference for anybody who cares is that the 23 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/730">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► little bit a little bit not here a little bit spicier I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/737">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► definitely it's almost a little bit less like what I've associate with regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► Pappy's whereas the 20 is that smooth there wow that's definitely the Platonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/745">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► ideal of pappy which one is like the you know I would say the most common but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/754">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► one that's kind of associated the most with being the good ones that the 24 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► 23 I guess I don't know I guess the 20 and the 23 or both fairly rare I've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/765">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► almost never seen it used to be not that hard to find it like that shit hole bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/771">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► in San Francisco the tempus no not that one little messed up I don't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/777">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► going on across the street from the Palace Hotel forget the name but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/794">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► they used to just habit sixteen seventeen dollars poorer than they ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/801">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► Parc 55 Hotel Bar used to have the twelve-year just sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/806">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► get it and you know wasn't examine only priced back in the old days ten to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/811">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► twelve years the one that I used to see the most often but not quite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► youngest but not aged all that much to keep an eye out for it to see who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/820">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► members of the executive agency the Wynn Hotel and Casino used to have copies on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/832">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► the list again very you know it's you know it's the Vegas strip and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► everything's little bit expensive in the Wynn and Encore is the best place on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/845">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► this trip so you know even more expensive but like totally reasonable it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/849">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► was like a typical poor of a good bourbon when Iran Khorasan twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/854">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► thirteen fourteen dollars in a staff Pappy's for like 16 crazy of course not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/860">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► anymore not even listed which brings us to get the big roller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/865">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► yeah I'll bad it can get up to like this right the sky casino there's a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/872">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► and go in there you know I was there for opening weekend and I haven't been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/878">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► since I haven't been to Vegas in almost 10 years of embarrassing that's a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/884">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► yeah you going to go in the elevator and there's a button that says KY casinos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/890">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► like the top floor of course you can present you have to have a special card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► to get in so I asked somebody at the hotel ones I went down the sky casino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► and they're like like like people with $100,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/905">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► it's like they don't usually like high limit live most casinos have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/911">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► highland area where a lot of background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► and blackjack tables that start at $100 maybe even higher on the weekend it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/922">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► like for the people who like that high limit lounges yeah did you read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/929">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► book 10 years old now by a Wall Street Journal writer who got I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/935">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► $40,000 advance and the book was that he was gambling has advanced away in Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/940">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► now I don't think so yes it was good i mean especially for you know that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/946">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► just turned 21 so is very exciting this is this the the gambling we can't afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/952">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► to do was he like like had a gambling problem or that was the premise like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/957">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► was a premise of the book right he's gonna take his advanced gambling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/964">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► then write about what happen and like the kind of treatment of guns yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/969">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► you know all the money he won and lost and won and in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► interspersed with stories about his famous Vegas people and he was a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/979">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► street journal reporter I think that was what the cover said you know I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/984">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► just be a freelancer something but yeah something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► gotta find it up forty ok yes I'm like that I find it I'll send it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/992">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► alright that'd be great yes it was fun and a great way to do it and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► know you might go further than you think with that I forgot how long that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► liked stayed there until I think he got sick of it and then he still had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► money or something and then he came back again and lost all but maybe I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► remember I don't wanna I wanna spoke too much of it but something like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► crazy which brings us to see yes yeah and what has now become an annual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► tradition which is after see us I have you on the show we talk about CES even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► though neither of us has ever have ever been I think last year I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► listened to it yesterday and I think we pledge to go this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► dunno but the funny part is the funny part is I asked you to be on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► this week so I thought you know I know you weren't there and you know I for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► every reason that I asked you last year the same reason I thought you'd be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► good guide to talk about it you know CBS from the far this year and then after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► IDM do and say hey can you have time to do the show this week as soon as I hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► Send I was like hey wait a minute deja-vu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► did this last year and I quickly I was like oh yeah and then I remembered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► what we agreed to go and actually this year even more than last year I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► of mad that I didn't go cuz everyone you know and I don't want to repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► everything I said last time we can just linked to that show everyone I know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► was there for the right reasons seem to have a lot of fun yeah I totally agree I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► can we could just maybe we could displace and all the audio from last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► year but now I had that same feeling we're like at the beginning at the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► of the seems like if you go to cover the show in any sense whether you're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► to actually do like hundred posts a week like the very jarring gadget or even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► your gonna take a saner or filtered approach you know and and do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► the filtering before you've presented to your reader like I don't like pubs new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► site or something like that or like my favorite the wire cutter who did one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► post for all of CES which is just a love it it's so awesome they took like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► most insane thing with 5,000 vendors it one post which is so great but even so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► it seems like you go there you try to get there by sunday even though the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► doesn't officially start till Tuesday it seems like Sunday night the pre-show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► stuff starts Monday there's a lot of announcements and then like Tuesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► Wednesday Thursday like the main show days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► and I think the main like you're already you're already sweaty so when you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► drinking and gambling and whatever but it's in preparation I watched a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► the verge videos and looked at some of those you know that every year there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► the article of the 10 most ridiculous things that we saw at CES in that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► of stuff and the kind of comparison their release from to mind is is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► thing that of course never been to Burning Man it's just like the same just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► a sea like endless CEO of ridiculous nonsense and and a lot of garbage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► people smell bad but if you're there for the right reasons it can be really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► yeah I think the difference between Burning Man in CES from me in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► like miss a daytime hours both of them there's a sort of I'd like to see it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► least once but then in Burning Man tonight you have to sleep in a dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► tent where you at CES you can see hotel totally which had a real big deal for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► sleeping in a tent I'm kind of hoping I go from here till a long happy life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► eventual death with never having slept in a tent again so i dont no me hagas to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► me as a burning Man with ya just you know any of those pictures there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► there can be thousands of people in the field of view it seems just unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► and you know of course a lot of them are there to do actual work like there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► been some pretty good serious stories about people who are therefore actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► job functions and one of the things that seem ridiculous to me at first about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► this year was like a Marissa Mayer's giving the keynote one but then I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► then I read an article about how you know as digital media has become so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► a part of the consumer electronics industry huge ad deals are happening out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► there and so you know you see some very strange binds of who's that guy David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► Blaine doing magic tricks in front of Dick Costolo from Twitter just to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► that has easy and yeah I'm sure Marissa Mayer and David Pogue you know went from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► the keynote straight into a meeting with Samsung or something it's at a register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1314">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► billion dollar check so they're people are doing work out there too but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► just insanity to it does seem like a lot of the consensus reporting i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► from CES this year is that the craziness was dialed down and not in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► size and scope of things but just like the this stupid crazy I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► understand what's going on here sort of yeah no racist right acrobatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► and I saw a couple people mention that booth babes seemed to be on the decline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► may be all they play listen to our show from last year and got some sense about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► the one of things I was thinking about it would be funny if this was the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► that Apple actually had a giant booth and just didn't tell anyone like we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► they kept the Beyonce album a secret let's let's have a huge CES booth this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► year to ensure every year as someone would report some rumor like oh no Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► you know well and it was rampant after they pulled out of Macworld great I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► it wasn't even just for the next year although that was one year was at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► fever pitch but even the next year there was a lot of rumor reporting that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► keynote in big exhibited yes and it's like now you know there's no way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► gonna die from Nvidia's test test outbid them so I did think one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► stories and I don't know maybe the sample sizes too small to really draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► conclusion that Apple of course wasn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► officially which is not to say that one apple employees there there were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► know they're always hard to talk to you know component makers and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► that and someone mentioned in an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► Apple retail buyers looking at that stuff to sell the stores yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► and I'm sure that there are engineers there to just you know just see because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► it's the one thing that the something like CES does it get the entire industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► altogether and you can see stuff in person and as you know there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► reasons to to be in person you know that the behind the scenes stuff is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► chauffeur maybe more important but also Microsoft was not there even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► you know for years that was CES was sort of their Macworld Expo it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► they were the keynote address the kickoff keynote for ten fifteen years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► a row dating all the way back to the bill gates era and then all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► through most of this bombing but they are not only have dropped out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► keynote they had no show Joe for presence at all nor did Google and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► a throw-in one more north north at Amazon now amazon has either but they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► make consumer electronics the Kindle line is I think it's impossible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► dismiss I mean that's the market share stuff I've seen after Christmas for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► tablet use usage clearly puts the candles in second a very strong second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► place in Aus but they were not there either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► and their thing that struck me about all for those companies is that they're us' [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► companies and I think that you know unless I'm overlooking somebody tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► if I am there are the four big us' consumer electronics companies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► Google Microsoft and Amazon and none of them were at CES it seems like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► almost you know like the big exhibits are all from the agent companies right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► Sony and Samsung LG right that's interesting and I don't know if there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► a wonder what I wonder why that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► yeah and I don't know if it's like I said there's only four of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► they're all uniquely their own company right i mean Apple's not there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► because Apple's an American company just Apple and they want to be left alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► until they're you know have their things to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► Amazon's kind of like that to ya even more secretive than Apple in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► yeah definitely Google though I think it's a little you know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► something they might do you know how big hall and and you know either just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► promote their like Nexus line of stuff or you know or even have like a kumbaya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► you know look at all you know how about every major Android phone on display at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► one's just you know which they did for at least both years that I was at Mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► World Congress in Barcelona they had a the biggest most popular booth with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► know smooth the people making smoothies and gigantic Android phones and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► brought out a bunch of Android developers and gave them little booths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► in that kind of stuff and maybe they'll do that again at Mobile World Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► this year right that's I don't know if they did it last year I wasn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► last year but you know in theory I think of all those companies to that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► least surprising if they did have a big CES presence would be Microsoft and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► will specially Microsoft the new Xbox just came out right tony was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► there trying Nokia right right maybe and maybe the just the fact that they are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► the process of tryna by Nokia and the whole CEO turnover thing kept them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► but that seems weird and I also think that they really want Windows 8 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► tablets to gain traction I think they will do how could I think I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► don't know is it more important than the phone I don't know but both are clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► important I mean I think everybody agrees that the group cause of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► decline in recent years is that they have no traction in either the phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► tablet markets and you know i i almost hesitate to say that once more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► than the other cuz I think that they sort of go hand in hand and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► office and not window is the path forward or even the cloud services or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► whatever that still needs that you know that that's more important for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► tablets offices not gonna do awesome on Android or something you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► gonna take it back I'm gonna say tablets are more important the Microsoft than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► phones because for two reasons for one there's the phones are already a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► horse race with iOS and Android or iOS has a stronger position at the top end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► of the market and Android has a stronger position as the majority market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► leader right and has the OEM market sewn up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► whereas tablets I feel like alright iPad is clearly in first place way stronger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► first place then then you know you could argue anybody has in anything other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► windows in PC market share and second places up for grabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► right and I think inevitably there there should be some kind of strong second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► place right like you know even if it's really just ends up being the Mac what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► the Mac was two windows at the height of the PC era somebody's gonna have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► alternative to the iPad and you know you know at least I feel like Microsoft has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► a better chance of making Windows and Windows tablets be that than they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► putting a serious dent into either iOS or Android on phones so I don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► i also think it's a little bit more what the you know shoring up what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► already good at like I feel like tablet sales are coming at the expense mainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► of Windows laptops else yes so that adds extra urgency and Microsoft count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► started the whole tablets at CES thing I mean if you remember was it two weeks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► something before Apple you know unveiled the iPhone iPad bomber had that weird HP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► Slate thing right right yeah the bomber keynote @ CES that was like a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1852">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► forward to i you know and I'll say it I regret that I never went during that era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► to see how it's like the Bulls with Jordan now it's too late to take a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► and we'll get back to that CBS talk but first imma take a break and talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► our first sponsor so happy to have him back on the show our friends at talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► selects the best coffee they can find roasted themselves in Los Angeles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► they ship it out the very next day within 24 hours of roasting so what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► do you love coffee you sign up for a subscription from talks and every two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► weeks or whatever period you sign up for I'm on a two-week plan they roast fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► coffee and within 24 hours they send it to you within a day or two I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► gets to me they always said that in the email when it goes out and gets to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► even all the way across the country within a day or two usually and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► it is the best coffee I've ever had but the thing that I love most one of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► I love most about it is on the sort of person who if I find a coffee that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► like I just by that coffee over and over and over a week after week after week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► until I get sick of it and tell the stories out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► whereas with tongs I'm exposed to coffee of all sorts of righties literally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► mean anything you can imagine if it's good stuff and it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► fresh roasted coffee is just so much better than coffee fining grocery store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► stuff that weeks maybe if you're lucky maybe months ago so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► really makes a difference will also have a new thing called the frequency it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► our magazine job done by email but there's a lot of fun coffee related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► content and if you remember you get it for free if you want you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► you don't get it but if you like it it's really cool thing and they've hired like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► good writers have good writers who work for talks now it's not just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► coffee people it's good writers so here's what you can do find out more go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► to this URL Tonks gon x.org / talk TLK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► you'll get a free trial free trial you'll receive a free two ounce bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► their coffee so you can try talks and decide for yourself if it's worthwhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► honestly I say just sign up for the subscription because you're gonna love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► it but if you doubt me and all get the free sample try it yourself and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► you're gonna say you know what I should have signed up for the subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► because it's a go to talk to my thanks to him first show see the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► damn what's new promotion where you can go to their website forget the URL but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► if you go to talk story I'm sure you'll find it but they have a you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► type in the number and the code and put it into talk start org and transfer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► full credit of your Starbucks gift card into talks bounds it sounds too good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► be true so I anybody out there who got who really likes coffee and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► as it tastes that goes above what you get at Starbucks but if you got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► your relatives know you like coffee quote-unquote like coffee and gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► Starbucks gift cards for the holidays you haven't used them because you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► really go to Starbucks don't from now don't get my go-to talks you can put him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► in there and put all that money into a tank subscription which is fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► that's that's very smart genius absolutely genius I love it so they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► a thing where they send it out I guess because they've sponsored by show before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► they they sent me a Christmas card holiday card that included a Starbucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► gift card and there's no explanation I thought it was just sort of a gag I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► tweeted in the city was like the best gag if I got but now knowing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► have this promotion I realized it wasn't really a guy go sort of a setup for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► talks is so great I'm drinking it literally right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► yeah I think Microsoft should it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► yeah I think for tablets honestly I think for phones cause honestly I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► Nokia it to me they're making to me the second I don't know about this offer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► they're making to me the second most interesting phone hardware today but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► they're still flailing they're not really gaining traction I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► that their sinking but they're not going to you know and if it's worth microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► money to buy Nokia or at least the handset division I don't know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► seems to me like they oughta start on it keep pumping them into the consciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► you know keep the pre keep invisible I don't know trade shows are obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► very expensive especially I can't even imagine what it costs to have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► those flagship exhibits at like a CES for big show like that that's sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► millions of dollars yeah it's gotta be you know maybe ten million or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► on her right but you're talking about a company that spending billions with Abby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► to buy a Nokia right and you know just in general and marketing and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► stuff and the cost of losing the windows you know everything they have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► everything its hundreds of billions of dollars right so close range I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► can't help but think maybe the the CEO turnover is why they didn't do it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► to keep you know keep the distractions away but I don't know maybe a sign of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► paralysis especially with that the new Xbox out and trying to build in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► developer ecosystem around that and and you know be part of the all the fork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2214">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► ATVs are out you know how cool would it have been to be to be able to play a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► couple Xbox games and one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► there was one article also on the verge about how there's basically no for k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► content to show up except Netflix had some said they were you know being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► demoed on all the new TVs which is smart damn Netflix with a big presence without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► having the big are maybe even any exhibits base themselves Reed Hastings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► was just he was at every single event for anybody related to TV and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► like I would have to say if not the single biggest one of the big you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► count them on one hand themes of this year's CES was Fourcade TV set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► definitely like you said the big question is will what are you well I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► actually there's two big questions for 48 TV sets 10 first one is where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► gonna get for k content because there's no point to it without Forte content and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► so far the answer like you said his Netflix but even there they can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► magically make stuff that wasn't shot for KB for K but I know that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► going to you know the one thing they can control our their own shows and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► have in a house of cards which they're going to have available in porque ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► we're just the new season which starts next month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► yeah couple weeks from now yeah I mean that's that's one of the beauties of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► vertical integration have control over that sort of stuff for kids interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► to me I'm kind of impressed by how inexpensive some of the supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► prices are going to be for those things I'm very frightened as to how much worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► the wire is gonna look it already does now I think I have to rewatch it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2333">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► more before I upgrade TV's or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► I guess it depends what it was shot on maybe the wires soldi I would go where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► it was shot in a look it up this morning it was shot in SDE for by three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► there will never be an HDD remastering but didn't they should on film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► couldn't they this I don't know the whatever article I read that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► chance to get that to go back in and turn it back into I don't think so D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► you know a lot of the shows during that period like the first few seasons were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► for by three and then you know something like entourage or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► and I think even the Sopranos like the last several seasons for NHD yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► there you know there was a shift and a half way through the wire all everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► was always St 4343 major disappointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► yeah it was sort of right at the tail end of that you know where is if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► back a little further and you know like one of my favorite shows in the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► was NYPD blue oh yeah great show especially the first few seasons but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► doesn't break your heart that it that it's 423 standard definition because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► was the nineties what do you expect where's the wire it just feels like was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► here's the thing I think the bigger problem facing Fourcade is how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► people sit have a couch far enough away from their TV and have room for a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► enough TV or 40 actually looks better right and you get into these arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► you know the apples definitions of a Retina display of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► you know its distance from the screen and some math about the pixel size but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► there is a certain point where you can't discern it right and when you went from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► an old 43 standard def glass picture tube TV to a flat screen plasma or LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► you know you unless you had some kind of vision impairment didn't have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► glasses on everybody had the same reaction which is wow this looks way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► better I don't know that when I first got a HDMI enough talked about on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► show but I even would watch skiing because it looks so good like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► crazy stuff like golf and tennis with these little tiny balls in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► hockey was a big one hockey I think God hockey was unwatchable standard def I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► never understood how people could watch hockey you couldn't tracks glowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► brightly was awful I don't know that for K for most people is going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► better and I don't you know i think thats the problem the TV industry TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► said industry has is everybody spent a lot of money to upgrade and go to high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► death flat panel displays an awful lot of money was spent in what the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► fifteen years ten fifteen years I got mine nine years ago when I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► around the same time I don't know that I think I got mine early 2006 you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► I was right as they were getting cheaper lot of people spent a lot of money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► still love my 2006 TV I mean really think it looks great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► yes yeah I think it's gonna be one of those things where you know it will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► gradually replace the HDD components and if you are buying a mid-range and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► high-end TV it will be for k if you're not it'll pry be 1080p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/2571">TS</a>]
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00:57:09 ◼ ► where they don't go with the most pixels possible on a TV but instead one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► will you know kind of hit the sweet spot in terms of bandwidth and content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► library and all that sort of stuff I mean how lame would it be if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► shipped for KTV and literally nothing was was available in 4 case they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► wouldn't even do that everything you have looks like shit on our new TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► well it would look like 1080p I don't think 1080p is gonna look worse on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► KTV said you know it's you think so now I don't think so I could be wrong but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► don't think so yeah well the way that nine retina apps look terrible on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► Retina screen but may have differences imperceptible from six feet away right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► because if it's because I think it's more like with like the retina MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► Pros where you have those skilled sizes to simulate higher resolutions and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► still look fine yeah cause you're still only you're talking about pixels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► are so small even at the simulated size right the simulated pixel is bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► the native pixel of the display but that simulated size is still so small that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► whereas when you upscale a non retina iPhone app on retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► those non-threatening virtual pixels are are big and you didn't see them so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► nearly certain and I'm sure I hear otherwise from you but I would bet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► 1080p content looks like 1080p content on it this way yet and things like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► worse than it would on an equivalent size 1080p yep unless you get real close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► which is you know which is not what happens for a TV or monitor that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► different story but but what's the point of of power on all those pixels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► paying for all those pixels to watch 1080p when you could have just spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► less money on a 1080p native exactly that now there are things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► if if they have a gaming app store you know with vector based gaming artwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► that does look appreciably different na na na for KTV I don't know I guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► to go good to see ya I just don't think to say I don't think four cases that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► factor no I don't think so you know my my my thinking on this and you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► from not having any real information but just kind of reading stuff over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► years is that Apple really wanted to have some sort of subscription service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► that was just dramatically better and more interesting than a cable TV package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► and couldn't get the rights for that and therefore kind of dropped the ball on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► lot of other stuff I don't know if that's true or not but that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► perception I have yeah I wanted to how much of it is still fueled by what may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► well just be a throwaway line in the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► somethin somethin bout TV in the job said I've cracked it and that's it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► you know who who even knows what that means I still am still have convinced at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► least if not 51 percent convinced that the Apple TV we have today is the that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► apples TV plans and that you know they'll just come out you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► getting to the point where it's overdue for a new version but that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► gonna be another $99 box with maybe higher resolution than a better remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► I've said this so many times I still think it's the most likely scenario for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► how they go forward that they just keep selling $99 set-top boxes and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► you know as a company that makes things with screens like I'm sure they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► tested out computers in every screen size imaginable they already make 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► inch display where they did so I'm sure they've tried out TV set or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► like that but making that in your product as a whole different story I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► I do I love my apples I find myself using it much more than even I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► year ago so I really hope they do more and you know it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► where they they had maybe one channel every few weeks you don't notice it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► if you remember even a year ago they were like you know even fill up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► first screen and now there's a lot of stuff on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► yeah I'm not watching but I think they had a pretty good year of adding content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► Apple TV I really do ya think it suggests that maybe they're starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► why I had read i think is HBO you know even admitted publicly that they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► their app themselves so it sounds like Apple has some sort of very simple tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► kit that they're letting other people use now to make those channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► yeah that to me could be the you know my best guess for what he meant by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► cracked it and it's just you know maybe it's some kind of next generation thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► bluetooth for the remotes and so they maybe you could even have like gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► remote and a real App Store SDK and let people just you know put apps on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► TV the same way they do their iPhone and iPad but that would work with any TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► while IDs or distribute those boxes than a massive IC whenever one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► neighbors get City vs massive cardboard box on the site the one TV said at CES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► this year that did get a little bit of my attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► stood out from the others with LG because they announced one that runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► webOS which I had forgotten that they'd purchased they like purchased webOS from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► HP what's what's the thinking behind that is just that it's easy to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► JavaScript I i guess i dont know I mean and it's obviously the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► the webOS as we knew it from the Palm Pre phone and the telecom the PlayBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► was a you know i OS style glass touchscreen interface and obviously your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► TV set is not a touch screen but it seems like they kind of kept it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► so it's not really webOS as we knew it but its webOS base similar to how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► know had a low-level technically Apple TV the one you buy today is running iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► version of iOS it's just not it's a totally different interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► yeah I actually did a research report about the various development platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► for Smart TVs and it's it's horrible it's WAY worse than Android like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► almost every model year has a different SDK and you have to test them like crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► it takes months or even years to make it a smart TV app for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► manufacturing case and there are using different technology and chipsets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► all this crap and is a lot of low level stuff so it's just a disaster so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► webOS is like hey just you know HTML and Javascript and you're all set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► that's a huge advantage over whatever you know Visio or Samsung has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► forcing people to do and I could be a big advantage for Apple because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► not only has tons of developers now you know because obviously I mean I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► would be almost shocking if the STK were anything other then Objective C and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► cocoa API's you know but optimized for TV but they also suggest that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► developers but that they have i mean let's go all the way back to 1990 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► say you know 89 and say you know you know go back to next and say they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► twenty to twenty-five years of experience making a developer platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► that evolves over time so that it's not you know it is familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► you know if anybody has written an iOS app room a cab the presumed AppleTV SDK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► would be pretty familiar and that as it involves year over year over year it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► not gonna break it you're over year and that you're writing a nap in 2014 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► you know it would be stable stable platform that evolves over time which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► think is a big difference compared to like what you're saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► the smart TVs on the market today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► yeah and also a platform that has been smartly designed for that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► equipments gonna run on now whereas even even the attempts to kind of shoe horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► TV you know and how well that's working for me and it is this sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► we're even if they come out with and I think you know obviously it would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► thing that would slow adoption the most is if if Apple's Apple TV of the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► is a whole TV set the whole thing at once you have to buy a new TV said but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► it's all built in I think that would slow adoption because obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► price would be higher and it would rule out anybody who says well I just bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► a TV X number of years ago replacing it even for a cool one from Apple even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► you know their market share was very low like 23 percent of the whole USTV market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► that hold 23 percent would be on their app store and even a 23 percent of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► households clearly I think that would make it the the most popular platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► for developers already even with just 23 percent market share because the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► thing is so fractured especially if they know made it openly the trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► stuff like the Xbox SDK is there still very tightly controlled right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► can't see that being the only way to run Apple TV apps like I could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4075">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► being the preferred way like maybe the Apple TV has you know you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► have some sort of other input for the whatever remote control they have or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► something like that but I can't see them forcing you to buy it the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► television to yeah I thought the same thing to that even if they come out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► it he said they'd still have set top boxes that you can put into other TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► sets but then you get into questions of you know latency and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► and if you have apps that depend upon that the lesser latency of the native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► you know the the whole shebang built into the Apple one by itself how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► run on the one that sucked up by HDMI has a additional latency or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► like that I don't know but yeah I agree I don't think that they would do it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► way did you do you see any any smart watches you like this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► no not at all although wearables totally seem to be the second big theme of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► show especially i think i mean it seemed to me from my the coverage I saw sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► wrist wearables some of them watches some of them more like maybe by quantity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► more of them more like a Nike FuelBand like plain band around arrest I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► people upset I guess when I called out the pedal steel is being ugly horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► right I don't like the old Casio watches that my uncle stash had and liked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► early nineties and you can still buy those that like american apparel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► it's sort of like american apparel style retro hip like yeah they'll also sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► you a pair of like you know like the glasses my dad was wearing in 1982 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► metal bar but it's almost to me it's more almost like a knockoff of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► Casias just like the integration of the band to the watch face it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► really really clinically done and I I like the first one is born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► I don't have one but I do have one I have so I do have some experience you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► know speaking of it but like I wrote on during fireball least the other one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► original one to me it's true to itself is it a beautiful watch know but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► to me it's no uglier than any other digital watch it's a slightly awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► form factor may be but you know it's to support its portrait landscape display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► I'd I think it's a big step backwards in my opinion because I feel like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► concentrated like and effectively from everything I've read that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► screen resolution is exactly the same the screen technologies the same the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► insides of the same like they they're like effort over the last year has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► to to to make these met all watches in metal and leather bands as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► improving the thing that I think they should have been working on which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► software and I know they have a 2.0 software release coming to but it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► not a better computing device it's just supposedly a better and more attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► watch but to me it's not it's really horrid the juju people had spent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► whole year making the case look better as thats what was gonna make it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► more competitive against the inevitable iPad right and the thing that got me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► no offense to the public people and I'm rooting for them I hope pebble becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► terms of you know who I would love to see a power company like people grow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► become a success I just feel like this generation is a step backwards and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► they've lost their way they've lost their eyes off the ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► but they said it a couple came out at CES and said we've made it our watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► look better and all the tech press was like pebble has made their watches look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► better because that's what they said as opposed to looking at them and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► man he's up watches are ugh yeah so here's the next annoying trend for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► next year maybe forward is tech companies like that the nerdiest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► nerdy tech companies pretending that that they have friends in the fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► case in point this invitation my wife was a fashion journalists got inviting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► her from Intel to the CES wearable technology briefing for an intimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► session on what's next for Intel in fashion is the microchip company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► semiconductor company inviting fashion people to hear what they're doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► fashion like I can't even imagine how awesome that I think my favorite part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► that invitation is the word next though there have been previous Intel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► opposed to Intel's previous forays into fashion when they took pentium three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► chips that failed testing on the assembly line and turn them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► necklaces when they added YKK zippers to the bunny suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► yes you know of course Apple to just hired the CEO buries so that's cool but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► you just gonna be on and on and on about it was when I read this department store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► called opening ceremony is doing something with some I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► some wearable tech stuff all its all this wearable tech stuff we got passion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► people gonna be ok but yeah i feel like i dont know I feel like different people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► obviously have different tastes and of course no doubt zeroed out my mind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► course there are some people who think the new pub watches look just fine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► even good course but I think in the mass market I feel very very confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► betting that they are gonna go over like led balloons and number two they cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► two hundred and fifty bucks which I know by the standards of like a Rolex or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► something like that is low but that's you know it's probably more than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► know a lot more than the average person has ever spent much of her life it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► decent chunk of change in the same amount of money you spend on an iPod or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► something like that and I feel like gets a pass from a lot of the tech either the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► tech crash or Tech fans who read the tech press because they're a little guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► and there is an upstart but kick-start or success but two hundred and fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► bucks is two hundred and fifty bucks and if they're charging $250 for a consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► to buy this gadget it should be judged by the same standards as say Apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► Amazon Kindle Samsung or anybody it's the same two hundred and fifty bucks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► you know if Apple came out with a watch that looked like double it it would and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► should cause their stocks to collapse caused like a 50% decrease in the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► because it would have to make you think that if they came out with a watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► and it looked like the double steal I would say the company is doomed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► steve Jobs was the entire company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► Jony ive is a fraud right and I'm not saying that that means that pebble is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4541">TS</a>]
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01:15:50 ◼ ► get there because you can you can excuse pebble as an upstart for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► something but I still feel like it's up to the tech press in the critics to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► it as I see it as it is right yeah it's a you know an early adopter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► nerd nerd toy and that these guys are basically you know a lab upstart cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► that's awesome but it's being pitched as if it should be a some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► mainstream things right and I don't think it's there and I don't see it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► think the fitness trackers kind of sort of our if you're into that you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► and I was thinking about that this week it never really occurred to me before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► but everybody knows everybody follows the stuff knows that Tim Cook has worn a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► Nike FuelBand for a couple of years at least and is on the board of nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► raid I can't remember any Apple executive publicly using technology from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► any other company ever and I know it now Apple unlike you have a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► relationship and I know that you know like the integration with the iPod but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► think it's a dangerous you put in your IQ + yeah whatever it's called but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► there's a good thing you can buy to put your sneaker and when they announced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► I remembered thinking like so is is jobs gonna wear nike sneakers instead of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► new balance and he did like the one event he had like a pair of Nikes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► yeah just for that event but I i and I always wonder about that like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► know and I think about some of the stupidest things because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► nobody else I'd love to get the story on that like did somebody have to go up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► Steve Jobs and say hey Steve better if you were apparent nike's and like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► was his reaction or what did Jobs himself say give me apparently keys to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► wear for this thing yeah did he did with them I don't remember exactly how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► went but it was a member I don't know was a long time ago guess it was like 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► are 2005 2004 2005 but I can you know after that is jobs was on stage wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4673">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► Nike shoes and he certainly did you know obviously the Nike shoes Nike tractor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► and I can't remember anybody else wearing a sonata fitness hobbyist no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► don't think so but it looks like he's a jock yes if not a jockey's like Tiger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► basically mound bayou and stuff like that definitely fitness efficient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► like you said he's on a keyboard yes which has always been weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► recently I guess he pulling an Eric Schmidt I don't know and it's it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► seem the extraordinarily out of character for him to pull in Nike Eric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► Schmidt yeah which would be to unveil like a Nike Plus Nike FuelBand killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► yes Apple gas gas water whatever right gasped and it's not just because he's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► the board and you know and that he wears one but they they even specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► called out Nike when they announced the iPhone 5 ass with the m7 co-processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► you know in that it's not just for the iPhone used but third party apps can tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► into it and at night he was the one that called out you know an app has shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► and at night he has an app that can use the data from you know that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► they've Apple stance on that is sort of been that you know that is therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► everybody's not just then yes and I where they work together on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► well i gonna make shoes shoes for something then we're a mean wearable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► stuff definitely me as technology has everything shrinks you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► from cameras to two batteries to the CPUs mean wearable is obviously have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► future directions for computers but what are they gonna do write what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► put it in Clayton Christensen's did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► terms with what's the job to be done what are you hiring these wearable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► devices to do and it seems like the one thing that's been a success so far is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► stuff like the FuelBand and fit debt where you're hiring these devices to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► track what you've done all day and tell you how far you've gone and you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► help you track your goals for burning calories throughout the day but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► niche and I feel like it's already being satisfied that you like anybody who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► wants to know how far they walked in how many stairs they've climbed you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► already buy a device at a reasonable price that works really well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► integrates you know with your computer so you can store the data and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► that I don't have any building it into the iPhone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► chips already built into the iPhone you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► I just don't see that as a market that's ripe for disruption right just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► seem like there's any kind of problem with those devices if all you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► is track fitness their day seemed to work really well and be pretty elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► as opposed to the pre iPhone smartphone market which was a mass and the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► said terrible interfaces and confusing and you know everybody you know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► use their phones and it was just right for something like that fun to come in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► just don't see that in the fitness tracking now time to say again Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► shirley is working on wearable stuff tiny little things but I don't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► fitness tracker is that yes could be something that does fitness tracking as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► part of a dozen other things but that's not at the device just as you know i pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4915">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► is also a nap but whatever the music you know the way so yeah I don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► you know what is the job hiring it for ya I don't know I feel like that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► it was not answered by anybody at CES I didn't see anything that makes me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► wow that's that's kind of important step forward i guess i another thing I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► did you see that the wearable thing that record audio around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► for ninety minutes on Hulu percent ninety seconds yet sixty 60 second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► continuing forget the name of it s on the verge quarter yeah something it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► interesting because I do feel like that's that's inevitably where some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► this stuff is going right the ideas you got sixty seconds of recording at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► times and it just drops off at 61 seconds ago just dropped off at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► of the buffer but then if something has happened within the last minute that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► want to save you hit a button and it saves that audio so if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► you know it's the audio equivalent of capturing that photo that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► watching happen as you take your phone idea pocket and I remember I forget who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► linked to a bit late one of the questions on the website is is it legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► which is half funny in the creepy Shenzhen have sort of you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► gonna have to face this because just think like if you just go for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► ten years is probably even too much but ten years from now the storage on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► phone size devices is gonna be so much bigger and hopefully battery life will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► be so much better at doing something like recording a 60 minute buffer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► audio you know would not strain the device at all and so why not like how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► you know if somebody isn't recording it and you know and and project forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► with something like Google glass that people wear on my glasses with a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► smaller camera and heads up display so that it you don't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► per say you know what happens if you can't see the camerons somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► glasses you have no way to distinguish between someone who's wearing non smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► glasses and regular glasses and it has the storage that it can just or a 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► minute buffer at all times so that you don't have to record in advance you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► can't just decide hey this last five minutes has been sensational you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► just saw I don't know cab burst into flames on the street I've got footage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► it I didn't remember to hit record but I can't just say right now they say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5077">TS</a>]
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01:24:46 ◼ ► could post that to SoundCloud or something I'm not entirely comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► about that I don't think it's a great idea but I I am it's happening right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► you know exactly exactly that's my main point where it's going to be so we kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5095">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► of have to come to grips with ya and figure out how you know what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► and for better and worse like all those Russian dash cam video of my life so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► know this is absolutely an upside to this is not a separate device but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► it's an app on my Apple you know whatever it now I guess that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► the best in a in in a weird way those Russian dash cams which apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5127">TS</a>]
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01:25:47 ◼ ► recording when your cars on and so yes you said your YouTube is just fall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5147">TS</a>]
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01:26:03 ◼ ► get some point everything will be like Russian Tascam everything that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► will be if it if it was all wish we could put that on YouTube you'll have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5167">TS</a>]
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01:26:15 ◼ ► some guy had his GoPro camera on while he was in a plane crash in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5175">TS</a>]
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01:26:46 ◼ ► direction at CES I kind of was wondering if we were gonna see a bunch of Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► class sort of you know heads up display type things and didn't see anybody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5214">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► gonna sell one but it was just very you know even more primitive than Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► glass was almost more like an oculus rift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5231">TS</a>]
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01:27:23 ◼ ► it was a safety glasses with a built-in heads up display and you know which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► think is a fine idea somebody on Twitter you know I think something like safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► glasses with a built-in heads up display well that's great because if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► already wearing safety glasses you're not concerned about you know fashion at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► all it's a practical you know you're in a practical situation so why not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► heads up display if you could help you you know in terms of you know doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► job that you're doing they have the safety glasses on in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5276">TS</a>]
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01:28:17 ◼ ► the IKEA instructions right but it would be cool if you're a construction worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► and you need more I don't know now that you bring it up on their heads up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► display you know use gestures or buttons on the side and and and then have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► sent up to you or something like that without having to you know take a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► out of your pocket or something like that would be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► by and see anything like that now and that's one of those things where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► know maybe they're they're hiding in the corner but no one now posted I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5331">TS</a>]
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01:29:01 ◼ ► break here and thank our third sponsor before we finish up the show and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5341">TS</a>]
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01:30:20 ◼ ► mainstream technology without Eric Meyer because Eric Meyer he made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5420">TS</a>]
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01:31:32 ◼ ► edge and stuff all sorts of new stuff like stuff that we take for granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► maybe even today like responsive web design where you make one design that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5497">TS</a>]
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01:32:46 ◼ ► consumer electronics as well and it's really hard for him because I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► owned a car so I don't really know I got member when cars got CD players in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► school and now I get in the cabin they have the name of the song that's playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► and i'm just still another did that on the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► piano you know and Ford and Microsoft I guess have that kind of alliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► yeah and and there was something that already in Android but it didn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► like it was a lot more hyped before CES than when the show came in land in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► of anything that was actually announced yeah just seems so so forced I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► waiting for to see how the announced back at WWDC but still you know it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► like the cards are gonna come out until later this year how this iOS in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► a way to let you use your iPhone presumably but I work with iPads too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► you bring your iPad or iPhone to your cart plug it in and then the UI of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► car is driven by iOS I don't know you know I have so many questions about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► I feel like you know they did just kind of threw up a bunch of you know here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► the car companies who have got on board so far and in theory it sounds great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► one of the things that sounds great about it is that rather than build say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► build Android 4.3 into the dash of your car but then you keep your car for 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► years and ten years from now you're running an old version of Android if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► was forward-thinking enough and it was just you plug your phone and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► you get a new phone and your to your car get smarter to ya you get new stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► you keep going forward and a new OS and perhaps and all that stuff you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► in the same way that Steve Jobs on stage seven years ago the original iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► introductions saying let's get rid of all these little plastic buttons on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► these phones because you can't change them over time and if you come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► new idea in six months you can't add a new button joystick or whatever to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► let's make it all software I feel like that same sort of logic applies to let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► let the brains of the car's computer be your phone because you're gonna upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► your phone a lot more fruit most people at least are going to upgrade the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5713">TS</a>]
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01:37:28 ◼ ► of experience and content than the internet or anything exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5848">TS</a>]
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01:38:01 ◼ ► there if it is modular if it's something that you know your phone is powering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5881">TS</a>]
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01:39:05 ◼ ► switch that to iOS or Android you know any other platform boy that's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxDHsVY/5945">TS</a>]
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