00:00:00 ◼ ► I almost lost my mouth almost lost my fingertips yesterday because I decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► to run with insufficient glove where PostID literally thinking about a mile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/5">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► and a half from my home I should have gotten that computer programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/16">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► fingertip insurance I had a lot of problems writing now that finger injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/21">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► two years ago just one bad finger and a smaller I think you're kind of post here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/28">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► become an expert in speech recognition systems in a hurry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/35">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► definitely although I think I never really thought about it but it's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/40">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► be the worst the worst use case for voice recognition has got to be writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/47">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► computer code I would think so you know the person asked about that is John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/52">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► Siracusa right then he doesn't have any listens to the one to ask that cuz I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/59">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► know uses it for his is writing you know like those mega does massive Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/65">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► reviews he dictates all of those which is amazing to me because I couldn't no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/71">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► don't think I could either i mean it's it falls into the same category for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► as not being able to type on a night not be able to type seriously on an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/81">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► because it's not the same capacity that I have on a regular keyboard says says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/89">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► who both have weekly podcast I am i right to me and my my opinion i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/94">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► way more eloquently than I speak and I i should not have a podcast an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/104">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► it's an interesting angle there is an end yet here yet right here we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► saying we basically can't express ourselves as fluidly or as elegantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/117">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► part of it you know I've said this before too it's like my typing speed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► as fast as I can think and you might get some people might say why you must know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/133">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► by the standards of somebody who's spent as many hours community over the last 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/138">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► keyboard as I have I should be a far better typist but I'm not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/149">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► there's I don't think there's ever any motivation to type faster than you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► think unless you take some kind of secretarial job which I've never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/158">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► transcripts or retype stuff so I mean how would anybody ever have a motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/167">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► to type faster than they can thank right must you just so I guess you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/172">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► could argue that stream of consciousness writing or something is faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► thinking but I can I can talk for faster than I can think that's why you stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/180">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► your home most the drive into trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► idea out there knows maybe someone come in you know what bothered me for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/190">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► now you've got a podcast you've been doing to podcast yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/196">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► cast on hiatus and the podcast with Manton Ruiz core intuition which we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/201">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► been keeping up a bit splitting one you've put on hiatus how many episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/206">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► is getting ten episodes so that was kind of a nice round number and I wasn't sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► what was going on hiatus Intel like the moment there and i was just like oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/218">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► not having you know the load of another episode next week or whatever so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/227">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► been feeling good I've been missing it but I've been gratified by some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► faithful listeners who are missing it but it's the kind of thing where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/238">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► it's it's it's a tough format is well-suited to be able to take breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/242">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► but my wife Amy and pakistan vs did with their show and and maybe we'll continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/249">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► to do is that they thought of it as a seasoned yeah and I think that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► originally gonna do tend but they did 13 because it was going well and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/260">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► sponsors lined up so yeah why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► 13 you know is a reasonable season like that then there's a break you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► have to really did like proper editing and stuff like that i mean they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/276">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► record for like two hours to get a half-hour show right yeah and you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/281">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► lot of beloved TV's shows it's not like they say even necessarily win the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/286">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► season is gonna latest you know eventually say yet we got another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/292">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► surprise was like that right now I kept you know give it a year to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/296">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► something will come out sort of got me then I don't think quite as bad as The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► Sopranos gun I mean I and I just mean bad as a fan because you you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/306">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► like the show you wanted that season as quick as possible I don't think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► any kind of laziness or sloth on the part of you know david mason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► producers and it was that's how long it takes to write that quality of material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/319">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► for 1300 13 hours of that quality and to line up all of you know acting talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/326">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► great creative talent to make it happen that it can't happen you can't do it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/332">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► know every year and a side effect of that is it sort of exudes quality that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/337">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► that subconsciously that idea that this thing isn't like all the other shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► right doesn't come out on some nobody had to like you know higher like illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/346">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► immigrants to finish this shot so let me just say this year I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/353">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► about this for years many years all the way back to the first runs of the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► show with with Dan what's the biggest problem with podcasts in general I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/362">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► one specific group and it applies to almost every podcast I'm aware and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/369">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► couple of reasons one for me selfishly wouldn't it be great to just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► searchable archive of of all this shows that I've done so that I find no in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/383">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► back of my head Jesus I had remembered it was on the show couple months ago we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► were talking about you know whatever topic what the hell did we say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► whereas you know there's there's no way to get that you know if I open up a six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/396">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► month old episode of the talk show even if I know that this is the episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► can't you know how do I don't remember it was at the forty five-minute mark of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► the 20 minute mark of the hour and 20 minute mark when whatever came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/410">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► transcripts with all that and then the other big thing would be huda Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► searchable by everybody else not just me and thirdly it has to be liked by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/420">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► definition it's a huge accessibility issues right anybody who has a hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/427">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► that's true but it seems like there are you know every time I think of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/434">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► they gather to get the itch to look into it there doesn't seem to be any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► like turnkey solution yeah it seems like the kind of thing where you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/446">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► naively that you should be able to just point dragon dictator something at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► and let you know it's not the case any other big problem with that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/459">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► accurately enough to be good enough how a Dragon Dictate be able to tell our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/467">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► voices apart you know know which was mean which was you yeah yeah that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► challenge and I you know some people have tackled this I think Rene Ritchie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► among his many other projects has tackled transcripts and I think he may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/480">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► just be tuning it all himself I'm not sure but seems like I've also heard some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/487">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► other people though enlist you know super fans to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/491">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► transcripts on behalf of the show a weird to me when it's like a commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/497">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► donated labor but you know that's something I agree with you it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/504">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► and and there's a sense it's in some ways it's positive but in many ways at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► stake if there's a sense that all this stuff that happens on podcast teen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/515">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► kind of ephemeral like radio even though it's permanently recorded just as just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/520">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► as well as blog posts or articles are you would it wouldn't be that way as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/528">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► much or even maybe at all if there were an accurate trans trans yeah it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/534">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► you know it's it's like more ephemeral and maybe every single word is of less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/539">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► value you know that if if we like I just right there three seconds ago said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/544">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► know I know is verbal tic I have obviously 98% of the times I say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/549">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► shouldn't could be edited out it would be if it were written article instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/555">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► off the cuff talks yet but there's always do you know every show and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/560">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► worth listening to i mean the whole point of what makes it worth listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► to is just got to be something worth remembering about it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► yeah absolutely so I here's the thing I was thinking about it and I know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/575">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► people have done some things I know Andy Baio had a project where the handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/580">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► was four but a couple years ago had a whole bunch of audio that he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► transcribed and he just threw it at Amazon's Mechanical Turk but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/589">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► wouldn't and it was really relatively cost-effective was relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► inexpensive to get the people who do participate in that you know to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/598">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► but I don't think it would work for the show because I think you'd need somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/605">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► it couldn't just be anybody like any any person anywhere in the world who happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/609">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► to speak English you know speak English well enough to transcribe it like you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► do it right you day you need to know the guests on the show cause I feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/619">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► somebody in a foreign country who i think is a lot of the people who do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► turf work as a very good possibility that everybody almost everybody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/629">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► haven't shown they all sound alike to them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► others yeah right and that would really screw up I don't hear it but like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/638">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► did the show with Dan every week at least to get comments every single week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/643">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► from people who said they cannot tell us apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► yeah I always felt bad about it but it's like you know just made the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► confusing try so hard to impersonate you it's really kind of weird and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/653">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► like it would also help to know i mean that we talked super tech stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► mean you know it would help if you you know we start talking about some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► these things you know that you know some of the words we use our goofy jargon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/668">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► jargon and acronyms and then like other little things like little they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/673">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► like lovable like typecasting tix Berlin man with light turns out or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/678">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► yeah yeah this is kind of saying turns out that the kind of thing that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/685">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► look like a transcript in error so I'm wondering now if maybe it's just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► simple as sort of a combination of your they have a superfan do it and combine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/697">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► that with well the show actually has good and real sponsors now and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/704">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► reasonable no revenue stream pay them you know like I don't know you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/709">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► a very reasonable hourly rate you know maybe somebody out there who listens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/717">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► is a very fast typist and maybe would actually even enjoy doing and maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/721">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► could hire them and then they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► transcripts every week I would I would insist upon paying for it though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► I feel like it's got to be in a quality product that just makes everybody take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/732">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► it more seriously now the question to throw out there is always have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/738">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► thought when it comes to the idea of a political association which again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/743">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► also often like volunteer driven and ironically enough in seem too often be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► completely accepted by commercial software developers that they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/752">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► donated in that sense I might be guilty of that too but I always start with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/758">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► something like that if I ever formalizes like to be a really ambitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► localisation I would want to have two people for each language as a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/767">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► like self correction no wonder if you would want that with transcriptions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► if that sort of like takes away that that pride and like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► respected that one person would have to be like the official archivist yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/781">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► think it's sort of a different problem because with with with the localisation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► you're you're running into those from any language a converting to language be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/791">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► there is ten thousand different you know things that don't translate directly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/800">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► know if figures of speech in English that just don't have any direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/807">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► equivalent in whatever language or you're going to and then picking the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/813">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► ones of you know like there's nothing like midway between casual and formal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/817">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► translate it so do you pick the one that's a little bit more formal or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/824">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► one that's a little bit more casual which finished with the brand and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► the sort of thing where if you don't speak that language it's so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► judge right leg if you commissioned the Spanish localisation of Mars edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► I don't know I mean it's like I speak just a tiny little symbol for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/838">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► Spanish I couldn't judge whether the button to publish was using to formal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/844">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► casual tone I wouldn't but that's that's where I would see having two eyes look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/850">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► at it would really be helpful in my cat some of those things where as a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/856">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► for idiomatic English speakers and I don't I don't know what would you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/861">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► the second person do you just read the transcript while they listen to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/867">TS</a>]
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00:14:35 ◼ ► and then compare for differences but i think thats overthinking it that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/875">TS</a>]
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00:16:12 ◼ ► think yes they took advantage of the presence of this transcription material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► on the videos themselves I think and so you can search anything it's only I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/977">TS</a>]
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00:16:30 ◼ ► know if you have this hunch that you heard something that session you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► type in the word maybe sometimes you have to because it's I think it is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► of automated or you know transcribed by people who aren't perfect and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/997">TS</a>]
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00:17:08 ◼ ► did a great job transcribing the sessions for this past Abid Abid easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1028">TS</a>]
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00:17:21 ◼ ► grateful that this thing hasn't been shut down yet maybe we should shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1041">TS</a>]
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00:17:54 ◼ ► that this years ago I remember in like the original podcasting boom remembers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1074">TS</a>]
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00:18:28 ◼ ► long enough that I'm a little blinded historically because it used to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► mean in this was for the first couple of years there I was regularly podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► it was there just wasn't a lot of sponsorship interest was really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► get sponsors and and it didn't bring in much money and so I you know when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► were thinking about how can we get transcripts before what we were thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1128">TS</a>]
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00:18:56 ◼ ► income it was more or less at the time of Jesus gonna take every you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► have to you know just take the sponsor money and then handed over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► transcription service and may be nothing left over whereas that's not the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1144">TS</a>]
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00:19:18 ◼ ► found this site podcast search service dot com and kinda looks like it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► trying to do this and I don't know if it's worth even mention having mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1167">TS</a>]
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00:20:25 ◼ ► for your Mac you plug in your magazine your Mac sees it from your Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1225">TS</a>]
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00:20:38 ◼ ► almost treat the hard drives like floppy disk sorted and it appears here Mac as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1238">TS</a>]
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00:21:01 ◼ ► give you off a little do is replicate that data across those five drives of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► you put you know terabyte her to data in there it's not all like the bit for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► file is not just written on one bit on a platter on one disc is replicated so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► that depending on the color of the desk wanted to report it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► green it's ok when a driver greener okay and you can just without turning this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► thing off without unmounting it you can just pull one of the drives which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► crazy right now if you're using computers and hard drives long and long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► enough the idea that you could do that it sounds like a recipe for disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► your Mac still complains when you unplug USB key without on Mount Hood but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► because drove the whole Drobo idea set up the data is always replicated so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► does it matter because then what you can do if you start running low on space as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► you just pull one of the old smaller one down and plug a bigger one in and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► just there you don't have to reformat you don't have to go into Disk Utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► and manage partitions and resize in this net just plug a bigger piece of hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► in a bigger capacity driving there and it'll just work so they have to well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► three models for Mac users right now they've got the Drobo 5d that 25 drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► system with thunderbolt and USB three interfaces that's the one that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► really fast that's the one you want if you're doing like photo and video where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► they have the Drobo five and and as for network it's a network storage system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► that can next be a Gigabit Ethernet really fast ethernet and then they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► have a Drobo mini and that's designed for portability it's small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► lightweight it's not as performance optimize its meant for somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► needs to work in the field like maybe like a photographer somebody who's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► in the field and wants to carry their storage partition with them to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► easy to set up really really friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► just regular people you just plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► the lighting system will tell you how much space is left on each drive a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► little little blue light for each one and each one is worth ten percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► storage so when you start when you have a drive that starts getting filled up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► its like 89 blue lines then you know it's time maybe to buy a big girl you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► can buy these things with no drives in no no no just get the empty you emptied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► robo and patron drives into the slots or they will sell you ones with drives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► their drive prices are very very competitive it's not the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► like when you buy RAM from Apple and you payroll markup for the convenience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► having your Mac ship with maxed out RAM when you buy your drives from the Drobo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1417">TS</a>]
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00:24:42 ◼ ► hard drives laying around if you just plug them in here and see what they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1482">TS</a>]
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00:27:33 ◼ ► there's no tens of thousands of people who saw it and then therefore had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► idea well and you're not naive you know that you can't protect against people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► following through with it and some people have in fact started doing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► so you wrote about it and I went up today but I thought it was the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► when you wrote back I thought you were really really thoughtful take on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► because you're a developer you are also in my opinion a very nice guy right most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► of the time you're sensitive and it is there's new ones here right but there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► is weird to me know they're clearly touched a nerve there were a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► people on both sides there are a lot of people on the user side who after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► wrote that like the people who had immediately started doing it or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► hell yeah this this stinks and I'm sickness and on the developer site point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► there are some people who got really angry at me because they're like hey it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► works this you know you need good reviews in the App Store to stand out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► and this is the only way that you get good reviews to stay competitive with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► everybody else is doing and and and then probably even more aggressive against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► you were the people who were sort of protective of developers as a class who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► were kinda like who who read into your statement as passive aggressive maybe as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► it was that you were trying to literally undermine the profitability the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► industry and that's hard to get I think that's what got my goat to start writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► about it because it just rang very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► it felt to me like we misplaced blame it's hard not to jump to the conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► that people are frustrated by the App Store in general and by the review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► system and we you know they're doing things I think it reflects is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► customers know developers know and you know these people i'm alluding to who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► are sort of like jumping to the defense of developers in general all kinda know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► dialogues I mean they are gross work around and in the context of all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► kind of collective discussed and maybe shame on behalf of some developers it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► like to have this kind of phenomenon when you get like called out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► something that you kind of know is shameful you're gonna need that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► more likely to lash out about it it's like if you if it's like if you like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► you are crossing the street and somebody almost hits you and you get mad at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► they're going to be like super mad at you are going to find some way to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► like why the hell were you in the street you know and I think there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► to that kind of got me going like you know folks like take take take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► responsibility for your own moved here like the fact of the matter is you many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► people are stupid in my opinion to a level of behavior with the design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► their apps that is in the aim of making more money and yes possibly in the aim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► of making the difference between viability and an otherwise for a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► but the fact of the matter is you know there's lots of different things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► choose to do or not to do too to make that difference right it's it's all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► some sense and negotiation you know and and people forget that the sum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► I don't know why it is I never forget I always think about it but there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► of people who forget that the customer gets as saying in negotiation to and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► always thought that that's what music piracy was about to begin the days when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► it was really rampant with Napster is that the music labels were saying as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► CD Aaron got older and older you're going to pay more and more for CDs and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► lot of top 40 CDs are going to have fewer and fewer good songs on it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► know and and it's not an exaggeration to say that a lot of money was made by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► selling 17 $18 compact discs that maybe only had two or three good songs on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► yeah and Napster was a way for people to say you know what I think that's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► much money how about zero and you know and ended and I'm not saying it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► on my justifying you know piracy of of any content but it's a negotiation at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► way of them you know the customer saying that this stinks paying all this money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► for CDs this stinks that I want all these albums on 1 format and now have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► same exact album on another format and I think that you know when the success of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► the iTunes Music Store showed that it wasn't just about people saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► they felt entitled to never pay a nickel for anything it was you know when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► can only pay $0.99 it was a way of saying well yeah that's cool that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► that's a good deal I can get in on that and you know is the right price $0.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► was at $1 29 where they wanted to move it and they got to eventually I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► know but it certainly wasn't $18 and when I see it with this is ok you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► ask us over and over and over again to rate your ass and you know you certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► can ask but we collectively could if we chose to rate the app and give it a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► rating because you're annoying us we can do it you know and there's this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► entitlement that some of the backslash had were it's like how dare you ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► this thing that is getting us four and five star reviews right that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► that I got from a bunch of people I got it on Twitter I got an email it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► immoral s boils down to the two-word argument it works and when I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► with this campaign is maybe you know maybe it won't work for ever using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► music analogy I also think that you know if it was fairly subtle the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► you you sort of caged it as a as a hypothetical but to any intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► reader that Caijing is the sort of implicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► you know it's a hint that this is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► it's a thought experiment right and so taking your music example you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► imagine somebody blogger in the you know free itunes days saying $18 for a CT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► well sometimes I think what would happen if I just asked each of my readers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► make a copy of their favorite song and give it to somebody for free you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► and that's that's fairly comparable because of differences and in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► like a lot of people in this case feel that if people acted on your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► the hypothetical advice that it would unfairly disproportionately affect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► smaller indie developers I think that was one of the one of the sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► things that rankled people but you know that's it was a hypothetical and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► feels to me i i think a lot of people it's not like they weren't they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► giving first of all during fireball readers as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► enough respect for sure you sure you have not not to dismiss anybody in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► audience make sure you have a few idiots reading the blog but you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► that's not who you're writing to write it's not like a situation where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► getting up every day and writing for an audience of idiots will do whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► allude to without thinking it through and it sent it to sort of like hold you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► accountable for standard of behavior that assumes you have thoughtless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► mindless drones who read and follow your every word I think there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► writer that in somehow targeting my political enemies or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► thing was somebody boost who is debating this with me on twitter twitter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► talking about it being undermining businesses and I and I pointed out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► would I i do think it would be a much different situation if you were to list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► like five or ten companies and say even theoretically sometimes I wonder what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► AABB a nap see to give them one star you know that would be a more hostile act I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► think our our friend is a lot of nuance to explore her cable sasser you quoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► the street but he had a very good point now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► cable its longtime co-owner panic software that the one star aspect of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► makes him very uncomfortable right that no argument that these are these dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► boxes are annoying and collectively it's becoming if anything a bigger problem as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► time goes on as more apps do it and seemingly ask you more and more times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► but that the angle of my hypothetical proposal where you leave a one-star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► review is perhaps problematic because what if you otherwise love the app but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► you would just like to gently rinse gently poke the developer about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► this issue the rate my app its yeah and so I know I've seen other people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► Twitter like us you gave them say two stars fewer than you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► otherwise award so if you would have given them a five-start give them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► three-star review and say i'd give it 5 stars if it would cease bugging me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► rate the app which is an interesting proposal like the ones in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► magic and perhaps would only skew the ratings you know it just I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► whole five star rating thing is a bad idea anyway I almost feel like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► like the whole App Store be better off if it was like a thumbs up thumbs down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► yeah absolutely and I think most more than anything what your post in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► follow-up is done is just dry circle around the fact that this review system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► is not very good right and the combined with yeah it's a bad review system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► general I think caused it and nobody agrees on what difference in for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► know what what's at three stars 3 stars in the because it's in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► five stars doesn't mean ok or three stars good for is very good in five is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► excellent in 2002 is ok you know there's no guidelines as far as I know either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► from Apple so who's to say that one star isn't the right the right rating when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► that's like philosophically offensive to me like everyone so if you had a track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► you're going there to derail it too much but one thing that came to mind is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► it's it's an interesting problem to me because I think it's fundamentally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► to Moberly interrupt a user from the course of their own self driven action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2332">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► in a nap yeah to ask them to do something in this is the key point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► ask them to do something that is of no benefit to them right you are totally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► is a developer's problem you are and you are distributing your solution to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► problem and he attended the problem is how do we get more users to download our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► app that's your problem is a developer that is not the user's problem at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► and if they paid you know it's even worse in my opinion and you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► taking that problem and distributing a solution across all however many users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► who have you know if you have 10,000 users you're just giving each one under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► users one ten thousand of a share of your problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► yeah so it depending on how strongly you take that Athens it could very well be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► grounds for a one-star review but more to the point like it if people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► saying no you should have just recommended three stars are you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► stars off all of this is just you know you can make a cable or anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► thoughtfully make an argument that's not fair either you know today to four stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► but you know since Apple gives no guidelines for how things should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► rated the other thing is I just took that your suggestion in the hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► one star is the right number to choose because it makes the hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► expression of dis of the state more strongly and it doesn't mean that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► person who has even inspired to follow up on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► pseudo advice actually chooses to give one star right and I tend to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► most people whether they're being taught fall or being on thoughtful tend towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► the extremes you know I haven't done any kind of statistical analysis but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► eyeballing reviews seems like the most common reviews are five star if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► really like the app and one star if you don't you feel ripped off or use you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► know famously you know and not a good practice but you know users who hit by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► bugs will often filed a bug report by leaving a one-star review and the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► Store yeah you know but that just seems to be that it is in some ways a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► people tend to use it as a thumbs up thumbs down and thumbs up as five and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► thumbs down is one and it works out you know maybe the average stand up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2483">TS</a>]
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00:41:42 ◼ ► the power that you might wield with your audience to make them to inspire them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2502">TS</a>]
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00:42:01 ◼ ► fear that it would be too successful you know that too many people would leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► one-star reviews in that it would you know i i i anybody thinks I took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2526">TS</a>]
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00:42:15 ◼ ► that a decrease in the average rating would actually lead to a decrease in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2535">TS</a>]
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00:42:24 ◼ ► yeah and it's very very hard for me I've said this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► you know my my interface too daring fireball is literally almost exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► same as it was six or seven years ago i mean you know I still have the same old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2555">TS</a>]
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00:42:50 ◼ ► model keyboard yet it's so much of a bigger audience right and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► different than like if you're like a live performer right like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► effectively gone from back in 2002 2003 being the equivalent of plane in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► local pub to playing on a daily basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► you know before thousands of people but it doesn't look different right a stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► performer and now all of a sudden you're no longer performing comedy in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► 20 people at eleven o'clock at night but instead you're performing in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► four thousand people at the Mirage in Vegas every night it feels different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► instantly I mean to you get a big room whereas when you're a writer like I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► here it doesn't feel that different so I definitely think about it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► definitely hope the most people out there being thoughtful about it but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► the other hand I actually feel pretty died I do feel I know it sounds and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► is the only thing to people like what's just a stupid dialog box hit a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► and it goes away you know for a while but I do feel like collectively it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► such a bad practice and I was saying it's a philosophical turn off and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► you get turned off it's the kind of thing where for example in the positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► side of things if I can aptly use expresses you know some feature in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► that has a little bit of humor or like a touch of humanity that really relates to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► you than you get like a sense of like I'm kind of like simpatico with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► like this is kind of like it's it's an emotional reaction and this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► thing is emotional as well if your gonna if you're gonna have emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2668">TS</a>]
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00:44:40 ◼ ► the one-star zone and its at the fact that this tumblr blog exist existed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► was called a few review and that doesn't come out of thin air that kind of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► kind of it wasn't like you know problematic reviews . tumblr.com you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► know it was it was meant to be a heated rejection the whole idea I do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2694">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► my having written in it did uncover exact and I'm not surprised but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► kind of a relief because it I felt like I'm not alone where it feels like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► of the response I got from users was you know hadn't thought about it but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► right this is annoying as hell and I see couple of those every goddamn day now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► you know it's funny I'll tell you what I was in New York last two days I was up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► for the I went to the Instagram event in New York and it was really nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► kevin says from the founder and his title is now that they're on Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► but the boss of Instagram did a really great job I thought it was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► presentation but while he was doing a demo of the new face or on our Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Instagram messages while he was doing his demo Instagram gave him the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► Instagram rate it not now and so it was clearly not part of the you know what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► was ready for I think get to the technical reason I think I know why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► got that alert on stage in front of the audience of the press you in so he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► know he handle degrees like no I don't wanna ratings right now thank you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► alright let me get back to that in a moment he does do second sponsored and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► this one is great very timely as re-record say is the 13th of December [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2775">TS</a>]
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00:47:31 ◼ ► resizing if you get a ring and it doesn't fit that's always a trick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► know who the hell knows what size people's friends say where they had free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2854">TS</a>]
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00:48:18 ◼ ► like a typical talk show sponsor right owner tea garden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2898">TS</a>]
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00:48:39 ◼ ► back to these rate me dialogues III I knew I'd been annoyed by them and I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► that there was a lot of similarity between a lot of the ones I'd seen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► only after I wrote this and it sort of became a topic of conversation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► Twitter an email with with readers that I start looking into a little bit and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2933">TS</a>]
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00:49:02 ◼ ► get cold I rate which is filed it right it's I capital R A T E but it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► because it's gotten a lot of people say it but anyway and friend a longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► friend of the shows ever been on but he's down linemen whose professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2960">TS</a>]
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00:49:32 ◼ ► she go to their website and just read the readme and just look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► configuration options for this and its ostensible employees at this open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► thing to your your iPad or iPhone app and it will automatically you know ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► the user to rate and rate but has so many configuration options it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► it's so super complicated and it has really been my opinion really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► defaults and it's the dialogue like I think it is the default dialogue is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► one that you're all of you anybody I bet every single person listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► show has seen it not just seen it but as seen it within the last three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► days is this dialogue this is d like this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► and there's three buttons and an alert rate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► ask me later and bottom no thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► and the one thing I've noticed I've known as everybody's noted the note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► thanks button doesn't seem to do what you would want it to do which is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► think this very obvious I'm not going to rate rap right now and I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► ever be asked again right now all it says is no thanks it doesn't save you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► know i will never ask you again but I'm not sure what else no thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3055">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► could mean a reasonable person could assume it means if there's also a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► above it that says remind me later which I'm guessing nobody has ever tapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► their life but if one of the options in remind me later and another one is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► and new tap no thanks and then a week or two later the same app asks you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► that to me feels broken and it's apparently by design like looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► like down lineman working at the code it but no thanks really means in this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► open source project is no thanks for this version of the app but like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► have its version 2.7 points 3 when you released two points 7.4 to fix a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► this irate project will then you know take a cute asked again and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► you know so many of us for so many apps have seen the same condemn dialogue so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► many times and I think it's why during the demo yesterday at the Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► event that Kevin Systrom got prompted by a from Instagram app because about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► happened is that he upgraded the version on his phone to either a newer beta or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► two maybe the App Store released version which had just cut which was coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► yesterday I think it came out like during the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► so my guess is he upgraded to the new version of Instagram and hadn't launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► it yet or maybe at like maybe I don't even quite sure about this but maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► doesn't ask you the first time you launch after an upgraded it may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► tasks like the third time after you upgrade it will ask again and he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► install you know it wasn't such a good presentation very well-rehearsed he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► probably installed it ran through the demo two or three times so that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► all working exactly right and then on stage the whatever you know the end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► time when I rate is going to make you angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► a couple of hours in between right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► Friday December 13th in the evening the developer this irate open source package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► Nick Lockwood has now this is not coincident is in response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3208">TS</a>]
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00:53:42 ◼ ► Lockwood has made changes in the new version which he published today and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► her as a few changes it no longer asks users to rate the app version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► want and if the user selects no thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► they will never be asked again and he even went so far as to remove the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► to prompt again virgin I think all of these are changes for the better so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► great move and really really cool response from developers and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► hope developers who are using his package update to the latest version now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► back to the show so as well as this configuration documentation there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3266">TS</a>]
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00:54:36 ◼ ► attributes that taken together determine win it will prompt you but one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► is literally prompt again for each new version and it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► documentation because iTunes ratings are version specific you ideally want users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3288">TS</a>]
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00:55:30 ◼ ► thousands of developers is to benefit developers by maximizing some perceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► benefit capitalizing on users and not just of getting reviews but of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► new reviews over and over and over again because in fact from everything I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► been able to gather from this this project which i think is super popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► and other ones there is no way to stop being asked not only does the no thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► button not stop you from being asked again when a new version comes out even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► if you rate the app if you do the thing that they were really want you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3361">TS</a>]
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00:56:10 ◼ ► to the app for some other purpose which was to actually use the app but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► willing to say you know what forget everything I will do you a favor I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► take time out of my life right now I will drop what I was doing i will hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► this button I will go and check out using my thumbs in the App Store a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► review of your at right now and I'll give it 5 stars and submit it and put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► name on it on the iTunes Store as a review of your appt you do all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► for the developer and then the next time a new version of the app comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► you're going to see that dialogue even hitting rate the app doesn't set any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► kind of like that says okay this guys have to show this user that dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► anymore there is no way to stop getting prompted there is no way as a user on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► default configured deployment of irate and looks like in looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► documentation a little more it actually covers this case specifically in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► same area says if you step that prompt again for each new version value to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► and it clearly says they will not be prompted again each time they install it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► eight if they've already rated the app then it goes on to say it will still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► prompt them for each new version if they have not read it the app and that s it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► that presumed presumably means if they said no thanks but then it says you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► override this using a delegate method I should prompt for ratings so it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► be completely customized some some sense of decency needs to he instilled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► this framework and again I i think that it's arguably well intentioned but blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► to the cost of user attention I don't think that you know whoever wrote this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► and set up this configuration system was in any way evil you know I just think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► right and I do think it was well-meaning in that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► aiming to solve a problem developers face but I think it's completely blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► and ham-fisted to the effect it has on users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► you know and I'll try another similarity and again people keep saying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► defenders of this practice keep saying but it works and there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► stuff that works that is not right you know telemarketing works right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► telemarketing works but it's annoying as hell and I would never want any product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► or service that i'm involved with to be involved with that even if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► cost-effective I would never have you know pay $100 to have some telemarketer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► try to get more readers of during fireball or you know people to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► Vesper something like that it's you know beneath the brand in my opinion that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► what I we're on the same day I was just gonna say I think that this reflects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► like there's kind of a herd mentality with developers and I fall victim to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► sometimes but you know the problem is we're also scrambling for how we gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► make a living how we gonna like eek out enough of a of a profit that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► maybe quit her day job support our family all these are valuable things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► aspire to do but you're right there is one variable and not just dozens but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► hundreds or thousands of variables that added together you know lead to whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► not and you know there's a lot of things like you know what else makes money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► drawn the line right there you know if each of these apps popped up a bare boob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► everyone's to maybe they'd make a little more money but Apple draws the line on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► that for us you know like if if if Apple said tomorrow I guess what folks new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► policy you're not allowed to proactively encourage users to rate your app from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► the App that would be it it would be over in that would be a new rules of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► game developers to play with the time to fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► to submit you know don't don't know absurd be taken out of the store but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► new apps new versions gets admitted they would need to comply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3623">TS</a>]
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01:00:33 ◼ ► have to be careful because I'm a developer to my face my own problems but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► it so happens that I am NOT I'm not in deep with iOS you know revenue stream so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► I have to be careful not to be too dismissive of folks having problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► this but it feels to me it reminds me of situations I've encountered myself where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► I was looking for easy outs or easy blames for what's going wrong with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3654">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► my business with my appt kind of reminds me of this old quip I think you are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► on his blog years ago where there's a will remember the context but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► like somebody had one of these kind of like whining rants about seven so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► whenever I think what somebody who's like quitting the software business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► blaming it on piracy or you know people not to be a lack of marketing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► something rather it just says maybe you're after sucks you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► always something we have to they were good and and and sometimes I think when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► people are down to the point where they're considering whether or not I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► force users or strongly compel them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► to do my bidding and that makes the difference between whether I make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► living or not that's a sad place to be and there is there is to be sympathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► to developers there's also a prisoner's dilemma angle to this right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► what's the classic formulation of the prisoner's dilemma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► you and a friend of both put in jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► separate cells and the jailer comes to you and they want you both confessed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► a crime and you can take three options are to maintain their innocence and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► you both maintained her innocence then you'll both get out without doing a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► in jail time because they don't have a confession you can say it was all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► other guys and he'll do all the jail time he'll do you know ten years in jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► time and you get to walk away or what did I guess it would be like you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► do like a year in jail and he did ten years remember the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► well but only recently it's in your interest in theory to stick together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► do the right thing and maintained her innocence and you both walk out but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► there's a big motivation to wrap the other guy out because then you won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► getting the worst of it and you can't trust him not to do the worst or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► it's like if you both if you both around each other out then you do you do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► time right but if you read him out and he says he he says you're both innocent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► than he does all the time and so it's in your interest to do it and just hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► that he did the right thing and let you go right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► and there is a prisoner's dilemma angle to this where it's like if the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► developers are doing it and you're not there getting more reviews and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► does seem to work and the reviews of their laughter mostly positive in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► app is getting a disproportionate share of positive reviews because you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► asking your competitors are and therefore their app is better review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► than yours only not because it is better but only because they're asked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► therefore it's in your answers to go along and that sort of why I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► Apple would be the one who could solve it best by saying you're not allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► do this because it also lead to the slippery slope and has a research this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► there's a lot of apps that are doing other things are not just saying hey if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► you like it leave it at or leave a review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► there's other apps entered like going taking measures to try to only get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► instead of saying rate the app they're doing things like saying do you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► app I do you like this and if you say yes I like it then they ask you to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► review and if you say no I don't then they don't ask you to leave review they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► dealt point you somewhere else like pointing to help page or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► which somehow feels disingenuous and slimy when its automated like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► for example it doesn't feel so bad if I as a software business owner like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► selectively choose to mention hey maybe you could leave me review in like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► email correspondence right and that's totally ok you know we do we do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► with VAT separately will you know at the bottom of Ike's answer support emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► will just put in a little like hey if you like the app it would be really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► would be great for us if you took the time to leave a review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► yeah something like that part of that is your door squeezing that in as like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► side note in communication that is getting back to the point otherwise for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► the customers benefit exactly answering a question you know providing them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► and are acknowledging yes that's a known bug but it's it's a 10 Apple bug and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► have to wait so where is annoyed by about you but we have to wait for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► to fix it we've filed bugs with them you know soon or something else that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► cool feature requests will think about it you know or you know that's a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► feature requests we have thought about it here's why we didn't do it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► something like that some sort of positive interaction and another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► I've seen and I think it's great i think it's totally cool are some people it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► nowhere near as prevalent practice as these alerts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► these alerts have become like a disease but likes i've seen there's i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► screenshots of some apps were like on the Settings page under Settings panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► there will be like a link like to two buttons like one tap here to get support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► if you have a issue and then underneath that if you like the app to have here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► rate it in the App Store these ratings really help us with our rankings think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3986">TS</a>]
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01:06:37 ◼ ► and right it's not just that it's just as crazy to me that there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► people who don't see how an alert is is going right to CodeRed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4003">TS</a>]
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01:06:53 ◼ ► flow through any app involved in no alerts you really have to when there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4013">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► no other solution we've gotta make sure because they're trying to delete this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► thing and if they do it there's no way to undo it got it shown alert to double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► check that they really wanted to because it would be catastrophic if they deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4030">TS</a>]
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01:07:22 ◼ ► apps where it does show an alert but it is clearly usually clearly for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► customers benefit to get an updated version and importantly in almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► app on the Mac that uses a charcoal there is a preference in the apt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4054">TS</a>]
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01:07:48 ◼ ► in the user's interests usually to be running the latest version of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► but it's not in the user's interest in general to update automatically without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4072">TS</a>]
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01:08:19 ◼ ► a possible like another possible acceptable communications stream between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► developers and users which is some kind of like passive news stream where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux4ajyk/4106">TS</a>]
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