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00:05:28 ◼ ► even talk about the Mac without you know comparing comparing it to iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/328">TS</a>]
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00:11:00 ◼ ► big deal with Apple implies that strategy to great effect so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/660">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► want to explain why they changed names they're not going to and in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/664">TS</a>]
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00:11:21 ◼ ► it's not definitive so I could be wrong but somebody that was telling me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/681">TS</a>]
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00:11:46 ◼ ► was why they stopped putting the numbers after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► iPad 3 and four because they felt like if they did two more iPads with numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/710">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► it would create it would make the iPad air when I come out of it wasn't called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/716">TS</a>]
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00:12:09 ◼ ► before but they didn't want to call it that they want to call it there so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► just stopped just had too much but they didn't but everybody I just call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/733">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► everybody else I we call them the iPad 3 and iPad for ya like that that strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/737">TS</a>]
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00:12:26 ◼ ► future scenario in which people expected number that's one big in the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/746">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► number for a more present scenario right people had almost all the same stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► happened when it was the new iPad and so all that stuff that happened that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/754">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► they were trying to avoid it was shifted forward in time but just like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/758">TS</a>]
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00:12:45 ◼ ► their strategy to like we don't we don't want that burden on top of the air we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► want that burden now on top of the iPad 3 you got what you wanted in the flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► side of that too is it makes me think that they're going to stick with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► numbers for the iPhone if they thought about that and they didn't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/777">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► these numbers and not you know eventually go away for the iPad then why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► would why are they still numbering iPhones so while you wait wait wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/786">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► the drop a number of the iPhone and then you know three years later the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/790">TS</a>]
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00:13:17 ◼ ► to maybe I also think in general that not that they're not good at naming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/797">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► things but they're not good at explaining why they need things I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► even to themselves that they just you know even without Steve Jobs there even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/808">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► as it goes on it's sort of you know they just picked names that feel right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/813">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► whether there's any sense to it or not they don't care or names that feel wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/818">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► Marcus talking about now I mean it's you know you get used to anything anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/824">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► but like you just have to judge a name like when you first see it and say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/829">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► this name have any awkward aspect of it that's weird and what am i training that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► awkwardness for my train that awkwardness for better brand name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► recognition for the word mac we just took it out of the OS names I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► what the grand strategy is their iPod and iPad relying on this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/843">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► different vowel sound and very similar looking letters to distinguish not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/849">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► greatest but you know it worked out in the end like iPod Touch people call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/854">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► the itouch like it's kind of a mess and in the end the names don't matter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► much but certainly I would say naming is not consistent naming is not Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/863">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► structure you know you had to pick a weakness that's where we are recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/869">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► us on Halloween evening I was out trick-or-treating with the boy and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/874">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► friends earlier this evening when they had kids dads who knows what I do ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/880">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► he says he wants to get a new 13 inch notebook or laptop or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/886">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► wanted to know which one you should get a book or the MacBook Pro and never I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► don't think I've ever heard that one before the name if you're not in if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► don't follow the stuff that sounds and they'll get in the front of them this AM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/900">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► sometimes there's mac and is a pad and pods and people don't know people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/906">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► care I think I could answer form I think I think that's become a very easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/911">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► decision to make just a little bit off topic here but to choose which MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/916">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► to buy if you're I think I think if you spend a lot of time running off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/922">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► air and if you spend most of your time with the AC cord plugged in and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► should spend the extra couple hundred bucks and get that pro I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/933">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► screen is still a factor in my mind I get the Pens of you think people care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► but I think even regular people who know what a bad viewing angle is like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► don't they can't articulate it but the life you know it it's the case that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► lot of people still can't tell you anything written and unwritten but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► everybody can tell the difference between you know I P S and TN panels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► like they just you know the screen doesn't quite look as good as if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► a slightly off angle that's that's the one remaining weakness of the area and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► still recommend it was so much easier to recommend it when none of the none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► the machines are right now I'd like there is that there was a honeymoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/967">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► period where which laptop max I get the default answer was 13 inch air and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/970">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► know and then you get his wall from there and now it's like 13 inch air but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► have you seen the screen on the 13 inch red not even before the revisions that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/980">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► those things look so nice and if you're gonna be spending all day looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/984">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► actual laptop screen especially now that 13 inch you know an on-air is getting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/988">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► yeah it's pretty comfortable to like maybe I'm a little off but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► getting pretty close to the weight of the original Thirteen age there's as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► quite there but like if you like I guess I just imagine the original air but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1006">TS</a>]
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00:16:58 ◼ ► life and you know everything else so much better but let me take a timeout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1018">TS</a>]
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00:17:44 ◼ ► you can buy to your home or office sign in with the same account and what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► do it works like Dropbox it just stinks that any files you put on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► between each one if you have more than one and all the max you sign into on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► same account what's the advantage of it while it's your device you control it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► you know where it is and there is no cloud component the only part that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► online that these guys do is the magic to sort of poke holes through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► router your you know your home network your office network they don't do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► storage though all they do is connect sort of the peer-to-peer basis just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► of get you through the you know what he called the firewall whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► call it the router my time I seen this right on fire while he got a final they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► don't store your stuff on any kind of cloud-based system and I can't imagine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► says her attorneys guys come on I I really can't imagine the the i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► political situation with the US government and an essay in the spine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► stuff like that that's going on with leaks coming every single week I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► even imagine for thought that went into them launching this product about a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► ago and then to have this next year of news break out like this in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► trying to convince people why you might want to take control and ownership of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► your distributed ubiquitous everywhere you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► file storage they have an app for the iPhone so you can use that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► connect to your stuff from wherever you are even on your phone too great product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► really as works very simply very quietly it's just it it completely unobtrusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► piece of hardware that is one thing I was 18 when I first heard about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► months ago my first thought was what do I really want to hook up I'm lazy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► really am and older I get the laser really wanna hook up some kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► complicated you know piece of storage hardware this thing is adorably little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► cute i mean it's you know fits in the palm of your hand very simple to setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► quiet all the good things you could say about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1201">TS</a>]
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00:20:23 ◼ ► cheap you can do things what was the starting cost for this thing done you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► know as you say this point your show to 299 I think of the new one that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► have the hard drive into the cheaper than they do sell empty one that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► supply your own hard drive for something like that there's one you can get 1 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► get your own unlimited private cloud here it is it's brand new a new device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► $99 that's the little park shape on as a little punk ship one to find anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► should also add is nothing no fees you don't pay fees no painting kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► monthly thing you buy that it's it's it's like a boy like you you give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► money for hardware and then it just runs for free after that no monthly fees you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► did buy the thing and really it's it's great if you're a nerd you want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► the one that doesn't come with a hard drive you put your hard drive in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► otherwise you can get one from them at all set up ready to go right out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1275">TS</a>]
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00:21:30 ◼ ► other big knob turned or something yeah it was like this it was this hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► thing you plug in USB and or is it so cold that it was ADB I think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► big with USB and it was just to you does dial and you can like software you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► control your volume you could if you wanted instead you can have it scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► would ever after in Kabul with it I'm sure you could you must have been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1312">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► to be criminal not to leave play kaboom that was my favorite one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► games for 2600 was a very good game there is a there was a whole there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► way you want to call that there is a huge honour of classic video games which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► was going side to side caching things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► dial control electives could be just be childhood no rosy rose-colored childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► memory but I would love for someone to hook one of those things up to find like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► a TV with IRF interface and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► i hook up with period correct hardware and see what is the latency between when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► you turn that little analog knob and when you know the image moves on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► screen it just felt like you were directly connected wired up to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► little stack of things trying to catch up as they fall maybe the leg was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► horrendous and I just don't remember because I was so young but in my memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► that was the most responsive I move part of my body and an image moves on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► screen interface that I can remember Tory called it the paddle right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► call them that that controller maybe that was the only device will maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► there's a newer ones that come but it was one of the weird things about or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► it came with two sets of controllers you had said a joy sticks and a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► powell as it was for two totally different games are types of games my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1395">TS</a>]
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00:23:26 ◼ ► who it was a really good one it was the same type of thing is you were a clown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► on a teeter totter and it just went side to side and then you add a partner who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► would jump on a trampoline to start and you had to catch him and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► had to catch him on the upside of the teeter totter and then he would shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► you up in the air and then you'd be the No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1425">TS</a>]
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00:23:57 ◼ ► clouds popping balloons yeah my my one friend with the 2600 must not have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► that game it was good and it didn't look good it sounded so stupid because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► spaceships too many guns you know the box you know showed you that you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► clown so is one of those 14 we got it right when we got our family 2600 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► Christmas but I never played it and one day I was home sick like the flu or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► something miss school and I was sick and not now I was sick but I was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► tired bored of all the games I had and then I realized there is the circus star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► game that it never really played in and put it in and had like us like seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► continuous hours just played it look it up is a good one but it would be if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► was absolutely dependent upon the panel would make any sense of the joystick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► yeah I think the latency was pretty good on his things I seem to recall that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► can get it was really you can get very precise I don't think I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► there was much again I we could just be the haze of twenty thirty 30 years she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► of memories but it seems that you know is very simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► you know there wasn't much going on there wasn't much processing going on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► mean it was just electrical impulses from the paddle into the thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► do shoot-em-up on the TV is a great book on this that I have not read but I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► meaning to call tracing the beam yeah I think I got a copy of that book like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► like they'd make a courtesy copy is the writer during fireball and it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► never read it but I it's somewhere on my list of books actually want to read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► I think the title is a reference to the practice of of trying to do computations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► you know the electrons being the scanning left to right to left to right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► during the rosa time of the television in New Year CRT and it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► there wasn't enough memory to do anything for an entire screen image so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► what you would do is do some calculations in the beam was started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► draw them and then you would ditch what you did it start doing new calculations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► before the beam got to the road that you are figuring out what was going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► like right I think that's one of the reasons they end up not having read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► book I'm surmising based but that's that's what makes you think it must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► been pretty darn responsive is that you just so little to work with and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► little to do that how could you take time to do anything because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► everything had to be respond immediately there was no like big long hard thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► about what you gonna do you didn't have time you just have to figure out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► dr. going to be in throwing up on the screen and reacting but immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► one of my friends from college I don't think he listened to the show but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► he's out there hello Andrew Ross good friend from college Banaue reads the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► site and he corrected me a couple weeks ago somehow pac man came up on during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► fireball and I called the bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► ghosts but they weren't ghosts they were monsters that was there for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► what were the bad guys impact man according to the official game they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► monsters but at re called them ghosts for the Pacman version or the Atari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► version of pac-man because they couldn't figure out a way to animate all for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► at the same time and so they did they would dry each of them only one-fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► of the time and so they looked Flickr and transparent because they were only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► drawing one at a time of the four ghosts are formed monsters so they decided this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► instead of calling it a bug they renamed them ghosts and called it a feature all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► they do look kinda like those they do look kinda like right thing with a sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► over its head right holes cut in like a ragged bottom to the sheet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► right so if it quite well beyond the monsters thing is just sounds like a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► know a bad translation of whatever the word is in Japan for these things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► well roughly means monster will probably because you're talking to that Web stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► now you know what I think well maybe I was maybe it was maybe it was my website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► maybe that's what it was I don't even think I linked to that talked under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► maybe he just saw it on somebody else yeah I don't know how I saw it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► whatever may be just the web stock account someone who retweeted it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► whatever and I do think though that you're right though no reason that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► remember them as ghosts because they do they have that that that classic you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► know she'd she'd over ahead look like when Charlie Brown special yeah and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► good costumes on the kids but it's alright I mean we don't get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► kids here again like maybe you know three quarters of a bowl of candies with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► the kids and they like younger kids with parents some of them are cute but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► nothing super impressive also not not a lot this year not a lot of the kids who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► are not really dressed up like the kids are a little bit too old and didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► put in the effort to put on a thing for just 13 candy to trick or treating is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► my wife goes out with the kids and I am the person who mans house so you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► can hand out to be a good neighbor whatever and let me tell you you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► learn not everything needed no but you can learn a hell of a lot in about three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► seconds but every kid that comes to your door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► based on how they deal with the candy situation because some some some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► when you come to the door they let you know immediately how it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► I i just simply extend the bowl and do not offer any advice about how many can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► you should take or anything like that some kids asked how many can we take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► some kids don't ask just take one some condone asking take two hands the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► like some kids try to take one say thank you and then rotate around their friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► coming the other side take another one and you could just like I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► taken his kids name down right I got your number yet ok I know about you ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► just it is a thirty second personality tests for very young children how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► deal with that ball candy Jonas would certainly be a eight take one he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► very about asking if you extended it and the ball that he would he would region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► and very selectively pick whatever you know take a look and pick one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► he thought looked best for the people asking like it's also the way they asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► some people are asking as they just want to make sure they're not doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► bad but they're also asking price they're hoping the answer is not one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► I give different answers a different kids you know I'm running experiments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► depending on how the kids lucky you know since they won some state to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► towards the end the night I want I want the ball to be pleased to have leftover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► can easily get higher numbers but occasionally they canceled come and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► see a couple greedy people in there and one of their friends will ask and I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► one actually liked 1 I'm trying not to interfere with the experiment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► fascinating as you should film it should tell them take what you feel you deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► that's like your conscience be your guide and Elmo say to these kids but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► feel like though you know I don't feel weird house what you've learned about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► father's little ministers they responded to Marco and and tips to read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► their their candy and what which can do you think would go first and you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► i read it later on and get the answer but I knew the answer but I didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► it what were the options I didn't see the tweet was like whoppers dots like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► look at the Jolly Rancher looking things and butterfingers I think and maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► range Iran's about it being dumb but I you know the kids I've learn this room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► during Halloween they love the crappiest can be whatever is just like sugar just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► like nerds or you know like donald was the first one to go there just terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► you know completely sure can be my memories from childhood is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► always go for the chocolate first even lower little crazy Snickers bar vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► anything else like you're not get who wants a jolly rancher who wants a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► of gum want some nerds who wants . everyone want to talk let the kids these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► days they want sour patch kids they want dots they want skittles like and we and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► what we get is you know Snickers bars Milky Way bars three musketeers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► butterfingers and also you know skittles and some other type of candy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► terrible crap sugar candy always goes first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► boggles my mind I think I've told this story before I think back on the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► show with Dan but that the gold standard for me and I my neighborhood growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► as a kid was always full size pack of Reese's peanut butter cups filled to max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► right you get to a whole peanut butter cups or some other similar full-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► milk chocolate covered candy bar for Snickers or a full Hershey bar lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► people are doing that like it's it's a trend and just posted that s what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► doing but like the full size ones that was hard to get spending with the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► of kids that we get and I honestly I don't think their parents get a stink I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► have given like this two year old kid a Snickers bar sizes farm right you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► I know what it's like to have kids with the small ones you can say we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► one candy and the one they're not wired all night one of those Snickers bars too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► much remember there is that the state average family in my neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► and missus average was always really into Halloween she was one of those moms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► pretty quiet house and had like a second-floor porch balcony / porch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► the second floor and they always every year they hung up a which she probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► was one of those acres tricks of perspective or I'm sure in real life she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► wasn't actually a five-foot tall taller something but from the street it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2032">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► like a full-size witch on a broom hanging up there and some lighting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► letter up in a great she always give up full size candy bars and because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► knew me you know around the corner she would like let me take two and I and CNN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► I would be like really I would think like this is a trick you're going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► again trouble on it except the second one right this is this can't be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► though is that still think I don't think it's no but that these days like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► days when the kids come we have a super bowl for a peanut-free like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► level things are you know in our neighborhood right and the kids coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► they asked for the safety of any peanut free to do here you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► ready for it had a razor blade thing that has got to be one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► that like never actually happen now I don't think it ever did but they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► the thought of it was just there was nothing you just turn it over in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► mind as little kids like I love candy on Halloween but biting into a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► candy in finding a straight razor heading into the roof of my mouth would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► not be good don't stop til you get the candy and I remember the other 12 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► I don't know if it was because somebody figured it out that Hayden even make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► that would actually be like kinda hard to put a razor blade and candy bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► then sela back up the other one was that there were rumors that some people put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► straight pins in you know like he's like the things like they give you an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► the Apple have the tiny thin straight razor in that you could sneak in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► and that's just like you know you bite into an Apple you don't want to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► be involved every year that's all just things that scare kids far as I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► I've never read an actual documented case of it really happy when it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► amazing considering how prevalent that myth was and how much you know copycat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► people do exactly like nobody would ever think to do it until it became the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► prevalent mean and then all sorts of weirdoes I guess maybe weirdos have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► trouble attracting children to their houses there really are things like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► don't really think it was everything where that was an actual problem but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► know that there were things were you can take your Halloween candy to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► emergency room and get an x-ray and I mean that's like an actual thing in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► places and it's like imagine if you actually like like suffered some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► accident or injury on Halloween and you're waiting you're always wait too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► long the emergency room and then you gotta sit there and wait for kids to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► their dams sectors explain their candy irradiated yeah I do stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► just make parents feel better but now I just think that offer that as a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► at the airport to take one of the TSA lines and let kids walk through their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► candy and see if it's not then you just see the candy like they did about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► rapper but you actually see what's inside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► see all the hard hit the gummy bears genitalia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2213">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► Mavericks got used to the name of it like in the grand scheme of things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► it's weird and awkward but it's fine it's not it's not like MacBook it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► like we it's not embarrassing it's just eccentric just fine and apparently it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► did start I read the story behind the name of the location some point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► surfing culture got to be big and then a bunch of surfers in the sixties found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► this great beach and one of them at a dog named maverick and that somehow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► and I nuno's of its apocryphal or not but that it came from that the beach was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► Mavericks because it was that's where the dog maverick hang out while his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► you're enjoying a long distinguished line of people who have been telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► the origin of the name by reciting to me or summarizing to me the very thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► I linked and the paragraph and I never relinquish its like handling I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► there's too many this time but the point is you have people like you may not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► this but Mavericks is actually about you know a lot of people just simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► reciting or copying pasting the actual page link to Wikipedia page about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► thing and the second strain of Corrections this is people saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► not actually plural possessive because I get this right is not possessive lot one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► person had the presence of mind to think to the other thing which is my second go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► to that I was gonna like this but I don't have too many thanks I just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► to the Wikipedia page page explained that when the new place names and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► possessive they tend to drop the apostrophes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► like that has historical precedent st. Mary's or whatever it's St period Mary's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► but without the apostrophe so yeah I know I totally understand where the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► comes from I understand what it is but you know if you don't know the backstory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► and you see Mavericks it reads as plural and most people don't know or care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► understand the backstory and that's why it's awkwardly pillar is it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► parole is it you know it's a plural possessive but you know whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► decide but there's a certain awkwardness do it but you no matter where the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► Mike and its distinctive and hey it's not a cat right so you know we're off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► a new direction in there there are plenty of places in California to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► next to McDonalds still have the friendlies dropped it that just friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► by two singular yeah we're headed with today's switch to face the added 'as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► because everybody called at Friendlys right and so used to be singular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► friendly and for the longest time we had one near I grew up that had a sign on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► like a big fancy signer brick building the didn't have the apostrophe s on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► and i would tell people you know the place action and friendly right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► like no I don't come look at the sign that they would swear that signs his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► family until you get out there and look at it and then it's like almost falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► we had to in my vague hometown area growing up and one of them was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► Friendly's and one was a friendly and I noticed stuff like that and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► wondered in the end this is before you can look stuff up on the internet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► always wondered whether perhaps they were two rival brands like McDowell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► redhead that they you know that some jerk you know started you know friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► after friendlies started because they didn't register the trademark on the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► possessive or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► get a Sunday any Yankees Cup because all I could think was otherwise it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► make any sense why wouldn't you enforce consistency across all of your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► they did slowly did you get you have one of those still remember having those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► there was like the upside down plastic baseball cap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► yeah I still think I have it Yankees version that somewhere I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2454">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► got one of friendlier where I got that but I do remember having a little yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► little plastic batting helmet roughly the size of a scoop ice cream a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► good deal considering the crap that you get with like happy meals and stuff now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► that you know they just gave you that is the thing they served ice cream many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► take it home and you got a nice little something might actually want to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► and I'm similar license for major league baseball is the real logo on it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► McDonalds still has the apostle of I wonder like did you have the Phillies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► hats or something really think about it but we had Yankees things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► I don't know if I don't know how I got the one that had a Yankees 1900 old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► when the only thing they just seem the entire country recognized the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► country is angry that I don't know how that a no or i you know for all I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► remember getting it I just remember having it for all I know somebody's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► relative of mine got it somewhere else and you know let's get one of those for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► John keep it for him but I remember having a little at Mavericks and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► off into baseball yeah I really thought this would be the show where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► wasn't any baseball the episode where they could not be like could have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► this could have been preempted by game 7 yeah I could have been I kinda had a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► feeling about the Cardinals and how much i neva not pay attention to it all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► like my Twitter feed is still politically like like like a contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► contact i from baseball talk I was going to write down my dad's big baseball fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► and we're talking the other day and I guess he's doing he does not like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► said this many times he does not like the American League doesn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► designated hitter rule so he just you know he watches sports and he likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► baseball but he doesn't want a lot of you won't just say if it's too american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► league teams playing on TV ESPN or something he won't watch it so he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► really kind unaware of the whole beard situation with the Red Sox until I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► it heard about it was watching the World Series and he was like he said the Red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► Sox look like the type of guys you saw a couple of them in the bus station you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► just walk away and I i no bad thing but only like you know academically like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► understand the concept tonight caught a piece of a game and I'm like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► this is out of control and someone had a good tweet I forget it was actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► poker now may be a comedian saying you know have two series The the Red Sox let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► me go back to their normal jobs of driving carriage for the Amish like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► were the same serious beard like you know jebediah caliber beer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► published out of these people and you know it just looks like to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► don't base yeah they don't it's not a good look like a little scruffy is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► but once it goes out into you know size homeless person like that's just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► much is not doesn't look it doesn't look classy know if I don't know enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► baseball to know you I see you making the comments about the weird alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► uniforms and stuff like that but all sports teams go through some awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► phase but their outfits but if you had to pick a team that is the apple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► baseball would be the eggs with the pinstripes like it's classy and simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► and straightforward and even their logo is you know it's not like you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► are still looking thing I Red Sox have a certain class to me when you have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► of the big giant beard and like the the bright saturated red is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► accentuate the unknown unnamed Kunis of the Red Sox Yankees in fact famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► I'll always had a good grooming code like in the seventies and maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► early eighties when men's fashion hairstyles for longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► Yankees would occasionally get dinged by George Steinbrenner like a go getta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► get a haircut done manually exception only got in trouble for his hair at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► point later in his career and it just became like a weird thing like and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► just sort of like an eighties mullet I pluck and I wasn't really long hair but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► I don't know it was like steinbrenner gotta being as bonded over it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► but Mattingly was already like the team captain and a perennial all-star and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► just remember as a kid thinking it was a silly thing for the Yankees be worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► about because they stunk at the time and also the facial hair they did you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► you know they've been working at Disney or something like that when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► the eighties you can't can't can't can't scare the kids that you know that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► only had the big handlebar right you have a mustache beard and get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► it I know that there's some pitches a lot of pitchers who don't like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► like to shave before they pitch so you could you can go like three or four days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► without shaving you you don't have to shave everyday but you can't grow a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► you know catches quasimodo doesn't yet know nobody ever sees no one ever sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► their face or their prehensile tails a sad to see the big cat names go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► cause I think they're out like I would like to see links in there somewhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► get the only one that they that they left on the floor that's kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► names got an X in it is interesting but that would have to be kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► middle name months ago lion where can you go i mean not even mountain lions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► cop-out like yeah I guess it's like a lion but different permount mine is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► know nothing about the lines you know it's it's not lightning bug and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► yeah and Snow Leopard was sort of worked on two levels where I got them an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► year without coming up with a new cat and it really did fit that that release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► famously being the look quote-unquote no new features release and Snow Leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► look cool you know I get a pic cool links is probably don't look back over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► the name is cool so that's probably the only one they do and it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► shame they never got like when they did cheat and Puma they were not into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► putting the cat branding out your face yeah there was just behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and then they burn those two names and like and she is great as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► ultimate inside joke but the people who put whatever you start with alcohol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► I am I even went yeah I tend to think I don't even know if that's the origin if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► it was it wasn't like hey let's give them big cat names it was oh my god this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► thing is so slow let's call it cheetah internally and then somehow woodstock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► and as the wine names which the least they had the good sense to marking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► Department of the good sense not to try to go with the wine names but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► continue to have dinner know about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► yeah they all have you know a super secret code name is pushing out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► when the code is being a Jaguar resist or to become the the marking them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► well they have one names and I get around to me you know that but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► even up to life in line was like parole or something I don't drink wines Pinot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► was it was maybe and 34 something I remember that if some some apple person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► could send you an email and tell you all the names were and are but if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► like great through the various shell scripts and other readable things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► occasionally you can find a commenter a reference to a name of wine and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► I figured if I talked about this and if I did I would think it might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► when you run the show also could have been in person at WWDC I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► if I'm repeating myself forgive me either I forget what it's been on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► show three months ago but the other names that were went unused but couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► for obvious reasons I was talking to somebody else about him was you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► could they if they wanted to how good they've got another cat cougar which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► they didn't want to use for the connotation in pop culture of older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► women who chase young men but cooler is a pretty cool you know until recently I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► think they could use that I think that that usage of Cougar is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► a modern thing and I think they could have gotten over that I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► know that that the snickering over calling aversion cougar would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► lasted any longer than the snickering over iPad yeah it was perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► serviceable name right you know what is it it's called the big 12 maxi pad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► know I think Cougars have you know I mean there is John Cougar Mellencamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► it's pretty cool cat was the other one can remember there is one more that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► could isolate is you know is one I think I swear I've had this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► before I just can't remember if it was on the show and I Jonas used to play in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► when he was seven and eight year old little league teams in the league he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► played here in Philly all the teams had big cat names and I think that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► were ten or eleven teams in the league so where was little bit more than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► know maybe they're 12 teams so is more than OS releases in there there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► ocelots which i think is probably the worst most of the kids can't even spell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► that and the other cool cat was one of his team names and they did I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► Apple considered it I think if they have gone one more this is the one they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► be used was Wildcats yeah I mean I a lot of these names as you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► biologists points out the like different names for the same actual animal and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► known by different names and Wildcat I'm assuming is you know what the hell is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► wildcat right right but like the Wildcat is a 12 definitely has you have to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► that something has to be something while the bed like right Mavericks is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► those little bit maverick different or whatever but not it doesn't like Wildcat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► like Wildcat could be like when you do you know I was six to seven times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► but you can't just let you get to slap that on something like a bad call this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► one Wildcat all the reviews of like this is very wild even now like a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► are like it's a even mine like it's not particularly maverick I made that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► the end of its like kinda like it was the slowest maverick is not really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► know boldly asserting you know new direction it's kind of not however I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► gonna spoil it I'm going to assume you know hopefully I think that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► anybody out there is listening if you had plenty of time to read John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► reviews so I mean I don't want to spoil it but at the end you you said it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► for western wear anthropomorphic you you cast as as OS 10 woody allen and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3112">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► said iOS would be the suave call Brad Pitt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► totally see Brad Pitt as iOS anthropomorphism I wouldn't say woody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► allen well I say not not the OS but this particular is kinda like you will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► know I don't know about this whole thing we can get the word out there but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► think everything is ok to leave the felt in Game Center but like what you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► it's like dion is kind of cool some of his movies you know but he also can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► easily flustered and seems uncertain right and so this thing is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► it's kind of got a little bit of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► woody allen is smart and resourceful and and and introspective like those the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► subject to the same time for introspection seems like a list and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► like looking itself in the mirror and know what to do with my life and swiped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► awful lot of the crap that was added all those applications make him look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► books and apps but it's also done to this point is white the stuff off like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► it just smear smear smear glad they're gone from County but it's not like I let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► me just radically rethink all these applications and some of them did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► get time to clean up so it it it knows it doesn't want to be but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► want to be but doesn't even have the time to rewind it and so that's why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► looking for something it's like you know what do people of different impressions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► of Woody Allen's that's difficult say like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► most people would not think of the Woody Allen like maybe if you're in Iraq New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► Yorker you will look up to the island and some degree was other people might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► look at woody allen is just entirely like the you know sort of nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► waiting fidgeting type of thing but there admiral things about woody allen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► but he also has that angle of uncertainty in the you know always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► question himself yeah I guess there is this sort of introspection is a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► to put it where that's really where most of the changes and Mavericks are i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► i mean it's it's really obvious you don't have to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► 24,000 Board Review to figure out that it doesn't really look different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► other than as you said in the case of specific apps that have been teased s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► words school more sized the apt 4d forestall do you forestall right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► what did they end up looking like they've really all those apps you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► contacts and it really does look like Generic apps you know it's just a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► straightforward right out of a pocket and not even that because if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► made them straight without kids they would not be like they are what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► is like underneath like like makeup if you wipe out all the makeup underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► areas like just the thing that was always under the strangely structured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► like that like you know contacts where they had three panes out of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► once you get rid of the book art it's like what I ever make this window if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► didn't know that previously had started to the book type thing and they made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► three panes more or less independently resizable so you can get it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► arrangements they would never correspond to a book that always had to be split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► down the middle but if you just started from scratch and make new contacts when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► do you never make a window like that it only makes sense if you look at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► see it used to be covered the book you know like our aura the the Notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► application OIC this used to be yellow lined paper in the sidebar now just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► of like this page thing like you have to know where it came from the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► Windows to make sense otherwise they look kind of small and squinty in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► strange and weird fonts and don't look like you know Mac outside all day look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► scoured down that's more or less what they are and I assume its good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► time to do anything else they sure as hell not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► not ship in that letter stuff anymore that was the easiest ok just replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► with a great throw a little bit of the you know then held that occasion there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► for like a month or whatever but they're they're not entirely rethought its just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► like you know backpedaling yeah note in particular I think really kind of sticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► out to you can like double click on oat open it into its own window but it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► doesn't have a standard window title bar all it's used to be like a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► sticking out and now they're not that yellow anymore now is just like a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► when he doesn't doesn't make it doesn't read that well and and I reminders kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► like whatever the crazy black stuff is like well didn't have time to read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► mind the next time they get to redo Game Center is just too much graphics and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► those people too busy working on iOS 7 now and you know whatever sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► if you want to go at the end there were more fires damn it's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► somebody who's like sobered up after a long bender and Game Center is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► or you know it's you know maybe a face tattoos a little tough but little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► out there but yes the hangover but it's you know it's the lampshade on the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► you know and that's like you know just like cheese I'm just gonna put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► addressed to the introspection know I did you know so yeah they look and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► is obviously it's really just taking out those over the top school more fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► resources and that's really the extent of significant changes to the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► looks i mean IQ change the document I mean like they always screw yea doc on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► the side looks different now yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► there are so few there are so few user interface elements they're guaranteed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► be visible s10 the doc is that like the dock menu bar in the window title bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► like that's the look of the OS because there's not too much of the surface area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► anytime they changed dockets like that's that's the one thing you know is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► to be in people's faces and let me know so most of the changes you know how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► you read the 24,000 where review of an OS two didn't really change that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► it's you know the stuff that's new is under the hood and it's really sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► deep by it is sort of introspective it so why are we doing this why we why have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► we spent all this time over the decades leading the background processes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► consumers much CPU time as they could and I what it what is the purpose of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► OS what is the job of the US DOT job used to be like give every process all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► the resources they need to manage access to the hardware and coordinate the mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► now them you know just maximize it and now it's like you know like the parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► realizes like what what is the purpose of being a parent is it just to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► get everything they want maybe not like I can't talk about my house I was shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► you know because you had to have you had a choice like you're on a phone you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► have all that crap in the background and there was that there's that story that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► don't remember the source of this maybe you do it like Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► I'm the source of the story I wanted to tell you this this is my story well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► wasn't there but I dunno I spoke to someone who was there it was after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► IP original iPad was unveiled so it's 2010 and you know the secret project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► everybody does something something Apple doing a tablet but you know and like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► Apple project only the people who worked on the iPad knew about the iPad before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► it came out i mean the iOS team news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► but then after it came out and everybody in Apple knew what it was and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► could do in there was a meeting with the hardware team for the MacBook hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► team and it was what we gonna do for the next map and you know and jobs had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► on his first medical leave the when I first but the first two years of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► life in 20 2009 he'd been gone a lot of the time it was when he came back that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► first that whenever the medical leave that started with Kim canceling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► Macworld keynote in this etcetera and was when he came back in the summer as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► was gonna do with maybe less time that he can spend spend the rest of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► you're doing original iPad but it really devoted himself to him he knew the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► in and out and so is next meeting with the MacBook people this must have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► pretty late March of 2010 it could take a manner many expect it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► budgeted at like three hours was like a three hour meeting with Steve Jobs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► line when he came in carrying an iPad and they were all the existing MacBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► run the table and he said here look at this this is a sleep and touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► button on your iPad and it instantly turned on because now it's a wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► because I can do it again turned it off he says now it's a sleep now at awake he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► goes why can I do that on this and pointed to a Macbook and any just left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► the room and it's the same thing that we all felt like you know the iPhone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► begin with is like that's why it seems so magical you use it and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► why is this thing that I know is like one especially the original iPhone 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► 10000 as powerful as the Mac why does it feel so why does it feel so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► why does it feel so responsive what kind of unfair to the Mac Book hardware team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► that's who he was talking to you it's not just a hardware solution is found in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► the software side of that coming it's like you know all these things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► to YouTube to be there responsible hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► finally getting them back to get some of their religion do less stop only do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► the user asks you what they asked immediately everything else you know get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► screwed and that you can't do that entirely on the back of the part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► package uses be able to run all the stuff in the background but if you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► you spend any time with the command-line tools like SMS usage in the old days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► see usage and show you what's going on your system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► overseas in particular I'm always looking at what the hell is grinding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► disc today so much crap just just run the scene on your machine FSM underscore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► usages should be in your path if you got that may be part of the dev tools look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► at how many processes adjust your disk tell me like one of these things doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► something really need to be checking this preference file 30 times a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► you know it's sometimes I have written a bug reports for a program to say your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► program is look looking at this Feist adding the smile like a literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► like that seems excessive don't do that and and Mavericks is you know like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► is the role of the OSCE introspection and maybe the role of the USS that is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► say I don't care how fast you want to check that file if you're not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► process of the users interact with your some faceless demon and something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► going on and more important things are happening you're gonna be throttled I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► gonna give you less CPU time and you know that's always been no process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► priority and stuff like that but I'm a ghost has always prioritize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► interactive task over the 90 director once the Mavericks is really cranking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► up not just giving us time but also trying to have fewer of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► happening and it's kind of weird happening at the same time that I S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► seven is finally saying OK couple of applications can run in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► kinda like you do in the Mac like you know I was used to beat the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► regime where nobody gets around only one process it once and now you know with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► seven is that they don't have enough CPU power to say okay we can open up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► policy can run in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► subject of some description restrictions and you know the Mac is coming from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► other direction trying to lock everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► down but it's one of those things where I feel like you had to go all the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► the iOS iPhone and iPad to sort of open your eyes to to these questions the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► questions didn't occur prior to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► like why would you let an application that the user can even see why are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► letting it spend as much CPU time is it wants to update its you I you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► doesn't make any sense whereas iOS that's like when you think when you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► there and think why why why does the ipad get amazing battery life and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► the things is even now that it has multitasking and you can keep multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► apps in memory to some degree and you get a real win out of that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► switch you know if you're if you're switching from male to Safari to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► Twitter client and all three of them can stay in and open in RAM they may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► doing stuff in the background but then when you switch to them it's right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► where you left off and there's no weight at all but on the other hand it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► doing anything in the background that you don't need that and all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► I think that you know Apple is clearly asking why can't the Mac be more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► that about Steve Jobs story at that time and you know to this day but at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► Max had an amazing reputation for being the laptop that wakes from sleep really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► really fast like the gold standard of the industry you know and like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► among PC users they see how fast this before that meeting they had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► reputation and it's exactly is it totally Steve Jobs move to come into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► room and the one thing he picks on as the one thing that that MacBooks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► universally recognized as being the best in the industry and that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► that he's as crap and why the crap because Apple itself had made a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► that shows you know don't don't be satisfied merely by being laptop to wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► from sleep the fastest there's a whole other realm of possibility over here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► don't just compare yourself to the Windows PCs right and and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► about the iPad I remember back in the day and I find myself looking into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► I think I even in there if you like the iPad was so amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► hour battery life that's when laptops for like three and four hour battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► life and you look at you like how the hell does this thing have a 10 hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► battery life when the battery for like a MacBook Pro or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► weighs more than the entire iPad we have this huge battery and we got like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► hours may have a better it so skinny that we're going to shove in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► and they continue to happen is the better get skinnier and skinnier it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► like you know the Mac laptops had bigger batteries and now finally with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► maverick's as well like finally Mac laptops are getting the benefit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► having just massively more battery than than the iPad iPad now has a little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► sliver iPad areas like a battery is probably a sheet of paper inside there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► you know there's no room in their batteries so tiny compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► battery in 15 inch MacBook Pro which is just you know seven big chunky cells and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► I just a small bit like and like a MacBook Air with running Mavericks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► getting like you know 14 15 hours about her life so now suddenly the world makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► sense again the thing with the bigger battery does get more battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► whereas before I was like the thing with the bigger battery gets a third of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► battery life of the iPad why in the world does not even the 11 inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► Air which could has the smallest battery of any MacBook cuz it's the smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► anything but if it weighs two and a half times as much as an iPad how could it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4013">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► matches yea but it was you know and I think it's only really with this year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► models that it really jump past and like you said with maverick's it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► passed it I mean it's as well as the big part of it in terms of like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► the hardware that was the big win you know get getting the CPU putting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► stuff on the chip you know like we're not it's not an A seven system-on-a-chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► yet but like where they're going towards each other and then the software side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► it is the other half of that ok we have the CPU and chipset the table to not use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► a lot of power is not doing it now it's the OS is job to make sure we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► doing anything when we're not doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► well you you but you ran your own tests for your review where you you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► like a real world tests on some kind of abstract benchmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► it was loading web pages waiting a couple seconds you know maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► simulate actually you know looking at the web page and then closing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► loading more yeah I got a new found a new family always had respect for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4075">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► antagonist people thought the benchmarks were doing benchmarks like this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► synthetic ones are so much nicer caused a repeatable but I'm doing real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► benchmark using real websites right and 30 websites vary from day to day right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► and you install the Flash plugin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► a real-world usage but then if if if your advertisements that are flash based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► consumed CPU it matters which adds look yet and it's like I would have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► I'm trying to trying to compare Mavericks to mountain lion and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► know you'd run I don't have one machine TestInside run the Mavericks when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► reboot great for the battery charger on the next one and I kept getting I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► getting such variability on the mountain lion on average when they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► consistent but the mountains on just very like crazy and so you know I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► the numbers in the review our direct numbers from runs right but we had many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► many runs and I was like should I average done should I not I just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► took one and actual run that was kind of in the middle but they vary its like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► what is the weather on the Internet today in terms of flash and crap and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► it's a bad flash and weather day on the internet the machine that willingly runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► flash ads is gonna get slaughtered and maverick's like I'm care with the flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► and weather is like a load the Flash nine but I'm not gonna let it auto play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► like I intentionally pick pages that occasionally had auto playing ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► YouTube and occasionally as well like I was trying to pick you know sites that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► might go to the test itself I think it was gentle like it was a light usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► task is it was like go to web pages change to attempt to go to a txt Edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► dollar-yen an ally of tax let the autosave thing work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► hi the window show the window bring this tab to the front pipe that tab like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► it's really like yousuch you know not doing anything strenuous but also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► that respect it's not representative of you actually that using a hammer and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► computer I just wanted to see like what kind of percentage increase could we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► and I was trying to get no demo app nap making sure that was a factor like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► stopping for like five seconds at least between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► changing tabs to simulate like reading some 25 seconds and that's enough time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► for a nap to kick in and flash was there demonstrate the amazing benefit you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► by Donato playing flash ads even though flash was installed like you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► it's if you will read it and they should look at the mountain I never did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► currently getting 12 or 13 hours out of mountain lion you're not gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► fourteen hours out of Mavericks it's like the percentage increases probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► represented but you know the absolute values like it depends on your battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► but that it it it does seem true them in a really just seems bottom-line true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► I it's one of those things that seems it's and it sounds too good to be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► and everybody naturally sort of just think so let's see when you know Craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► Federici first ran through the features back at WWDC of Mavericks and said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► you know we can get with these things that we're doing you know app nap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4245">TS</a>]
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01:10:57 ◼ ► collapsed hitting you know hitting hard drive that you can you know that adds up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/4257">TS</a>]
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01:25:28 ◼ ► where it had been OCR so you can search swype attacks this tax rate because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5128">TS</a>]
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01:25:57 ◼ ► brought up the episode of The Shield show where they made a joke about Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5157">TS</a>]
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01:26:19 ◼ ► some kind of uncanny valley where it's clearly not a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► and therefore we can make fun of it OCR is sorta like to get really depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► think how often you see people make fun of their human you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► co-workers or assistance of an actual human it was the subject of ridicule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► about how doesn't understand what you want because it's not inside your brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5196">TS</a>]
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01:26:46 ◼ ► become a hive mind you know and same thing with OCR like human beings can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► read stuff but it's sufficiently smudged in crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5211">TS</a>]
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01:27:22 ◼ ► the first run experience like step for the first run experience is to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► capture just in case your robot right with with hot dog fingers using this why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5246">TS</a>]
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01:27:39 ◼ ► maybe you know you know with water filter hot dog fingers like a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5259">TS</a>]
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01:27:48 ◼ ► things you know trying to scam captions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5268">TS</a>]
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01:29:10 ◼ ► no sense because you didn't take it there so I could understand its best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5350">TS</a>]
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01:29:30 ◼ ► more obscure than a lot of other things a reference even like The Big Lebowski [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► but now it has come to prominence due to their obsession with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► yeah I think that the Aviator I have sought when I didn't see it in theaters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► it's another you know it's the whole having kids thing where I don't see many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► movies at all bidders anymore it's too but I did see it when it first I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► big scorsese fantasy when it first came out on iTunes I got it and I'm being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► little disappointed the first time I saw it I don't know what I expected it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► needed to be goodfellas with the billionaire and it wasn't and I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► little disappointed in a wide still a year or so ago and thought my god what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► remarkable I really hate the second time I watch the year two later to three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► years later I really thought you know this is just fantastic love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5414">TS</a>]
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01:30:27 ◼ ► kinda sorta like that but I read it it seems like such an otherworldly if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► don't have to suffer from it and it's hard to imagine it and I feel like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5432">TS</a>]
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01:30:41 ◼ ► there but for the grace of God go I maybe I am a little closer to that than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► than comfort yeah I think everyone can identify with it a little bit some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► more than others lets a great guy that Howard Hughes was I don't know if I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5453">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► ever seen anything about in there wasn't like a fictionalized like newsreels or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► interviews or anything about the actual persons all I had in my mind is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5467">TS</a>]
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01:31:18 ◼ ► famous actresses making movies there's a life that I mean there's more was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► to do in the bottles are in tissue boxes and doesn't end well thats this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5484">TS</a>]
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01:34:44 ◼ ► put this attached there and then once the clip onto your clothes like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► it's just like my laundry machines we did like it you know I'm not I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► responsible enough to have $100 little you know rubberized electronic turds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► clipped my clothes to wash in the first week and I'll buy another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► essentially it's like it's like a tax like you know average of $75 a month for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► the rest of my life to keep I knew Fitbit yeah exactly the same I I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► one I bought the IndieGoGo project Kickstarter one of those things it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► called the misfit shine misfit as the company and its like you know if it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► it was a little at a little quarter sized desk and had a couple of ways you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► can way you could wear it on your wrist I chose not to I magnin thing I put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► my pants and I had it for six days before I lost it on the seventh day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► was aware that thing and I'm no child somewhere you know idea yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► didn't remember I couldn't remember the last time I checked it from the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► before I remember I definitely had it the day before and at some point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► didn't have it and so the phone is the perfect thing that because the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► like you're not gonna lose track of how much money and use it all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► it's got the tractor and it doesn't kill your battery so you're good to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► like I put that I put the underscore Deviousness but are pluses than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► wife's iPhone it doesn't work for her unfortunately because her phone is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► allowed in all sorts of places in her work so it's like she doesn't get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► he doesn't get the benefit of the steps that are taking place when she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► have her phone with a long time that has to be left elsewhere so she's hurt our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► numbers are low but she has excuses like it's a secure zone 12 stories out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► any way to get there is a flight of stairs to see the person the office of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► the longest hallway in the whole facility no credit Maxwell Smart Gilas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► doors right white house in fabrics what's your favorite thing what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► favorite thing that they did this year and maverick's I send us an ATP that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► recorded earlier in the weekend people gonna think I'm crazy or or a total noob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► as the kids say like you know the whole thing about 1-10 was slow after ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► release of august 10 people on the forums will install and loved it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► snappier right and it's because every time you install a new version of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► like all your applications everything is fresh like the caches are rebuilt for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► you like you know it's all of course it feels faster like you just like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► System Preferences it was like one bounce it opened Raptors nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► happening in machine to just rebooted in just reinstalled the OS of course it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► bill snappy right so that matter fact has always been right but I really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► like having installed Mavericks and so many machines that actually does he feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► snap you're not taking into account that yes of course is gonna be a snapper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► quickly I've been using it for days and days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► days like this you know the release version on Mario machines do Rio where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► an actual work and it feels snappier and could all be in my head I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► willing to believe that all my head but if it's not all my head what is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► from is my computer is doing less useless crap and and that means it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► it's more available to do the stuff that I wanted to do and so you know it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► just be the difference in animation somewhere could could be ended by giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► a terminal for instance like when I use terminal and you know ellis or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► local directory do something that's beside Texas seems like a text appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► in the terminal window faster and like that can't be possible how could it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► already appears so lightening fast like you most like I was waiting for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► characters it was already so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► why does it feel faster to me so there's some either you know psychological not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► really there but I think it's there are actual kind of like trickery in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► procedure just down from ABC right now if you would just feels it just feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► more efficient to me I think it's subtle but I think it I think it does feel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► little snap you're too and I'm running it mostly on a very old PowerBook 2008 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► MacBook MacBook Pro and the 2010 MacBook Air that I mentioned in my my iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► review not new stuff you know so there's definitely a national icon both machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► it feels a little simpler and I think there's gotta be room for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► Snap Fitness improvement because specifically just comparing the way Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► OS 10 feels to an iPad even older iPads and you know it was just the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► initial appeal of iOS is my god this this feels so much more responsive to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► input than my computer even though it's only you know a 10 Thursday 20th as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► powerful as you know CPU eyes favorite like real feature that is not on my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► is the new version are you using my main browser but I also run chrome all data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► is used to browse have certain things i doing certain things i doing so far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► far as my default and one of the things I always liked about so far as I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► when I had command then to make a new window which I can only do they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► always use tabs too crowded to make a new window just like it was fast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► like a native UI everything about his native was fast right and chrome what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► liked about it was I felt like one so far we start to get hung up a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► Safari six-man you know the WebKit to thing where I would get hung up on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► get a dialog box yet to reload all you want us to piss me off to no end when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► that happened to win something was slower I just like the progress bar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► Safari just like hang in there I always knew I could switch to Chrome make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► window and because it was a separate process no matter what the hell's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► on all my other chrome tabs on other criminals no matter what the health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► authorities doing being hung I can get a new chrome window and it will load the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► damn thing that I want to load cos independent and so going to process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► pratap in Safari is like you know i maybe this is just me people writing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► say I still get that dialog box it says you know things are not responding it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► not all the tabs and Safari now just a few of them which I suppose could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► but I get I used to get that pages and I responded by now you know you know visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► page reload all the tabs think get used to get on the old version of Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► constantly was driving me nuts was driving to the point where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► thinking of switching my default browser and during the whole course of writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► the review on a mountain lion system I kept getting it again and again it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► like taunting me like saying goodbye to me and I never once not once still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► haven't not one's gotten it on mattresses party 7 I don't you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► may happen you know and maybe when it happens it still happens the effect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► less but I just haven't seen it all and that that that is a big change in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► daily life because if you use Safari browser and you get that thing like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► than you know once every couple of weeks it really changes when they just goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► guy you the story just told is exactly everything about it I'd safari is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► default browser I run I've run into that dialog box all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► over the you know the time that far is used that to to process architecture you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► to render the UI and one monolithic process to handle all of the rendering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► that whole time was it just just one OS release or was it to its releases was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► just mountain lion I'm so bad I remember when I am I think it might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► lyin and Mallory WebKit the whole time I ran into that so many times and when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► would get bad that that that and that reason alone made me think that maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► should switch to Chrome as my main browser the only reason and there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► one other thing about crime that I prefer to Safari except for the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► that Chrome OS four years is headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► you know each tab gets its own rendering process I do like other things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► crime like I you know I when I use Google's applications nice marriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► between all their crazy you know stuff they do to make things fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► everything but just like it's just chromis and again people have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► experiences people you know me and say you keep saying chrome is solid crisis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► chrome is so solid for me like I i'm in the beta channel 4 chrome attorney went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► to the regular releases I'm on the bandits every time a new beta comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► I just get it automatically and even that just I always know if I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► chrome and make a new window or new tab I can load a page you will never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► what's happening like their their architecture is so good and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► safaris not up to that level yet but chrome was always been just rock solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► and yet they are you Alex weird and I don't like how it's not native and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► those stuff but there are things I do like about chrome I wouldn't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► there's nothing else I don't like about but there's nothing there that tempted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► me to switch because I'm not a big user of Google Apps I don't like the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► that I don't like I don't like the non-standard you I so that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► saying that I can see why other people use Chrome for other reasons but for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► the main thing that was always drawing it was the processor architecture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► more recently work-related like I've found myself using the dev tools built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► into chrome I mean you know you think all the boat basin where she was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► the WebKit debugger but they've diverged significantly over the years in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► those things look like they're pretty much feature compromised web inspector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► does it has featured lacks features is just the way things are arranged again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► and you know when you're debugging you went back to doing all sorts of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► crap and seven break points in putting in bed JavaScript are you trying to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► and also to things that can very quickly get Safari confused in hose and hose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► whole a piano back in the bad old days was host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► just i i run chrome never have the relaunching its only work when I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► work related stuff and debugging JavaScript that it could be a WebKit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► related issues or just testing it without that I'm writing in JavaScript I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► do all my debugging chrome these days even though it's not as nice and pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► as the debugger and and so far in Safari about tomorrow has gotten a lot better I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► just find myself you know even now with Safari 7 I still use Chrome as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► debugger a used to be their use Firebug in Firefox back when nobody had good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► buying supper Firefox but so Google feature that most people don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► about if your web developer I think Chrome's web development tools have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► really come a long way and I mean on them every day I think with Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► WebKit into the separate process architecture and it seems like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► big political back story to that you mentioned it we're we're invited Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► to contribute there's to the WebKit project and Google declined and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► received recalled reading something about how that it wasn't that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► anyway that maybe you know that that it was a lot of working what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► learned up with with for WebKit to now with this processor architecture is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► lot better than I don't have the better than chrome but better for WebKit as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► project in Chrome's specific implementation would have been now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► mean it's a little bit sour grapes kinda like if you look at the putting chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► if you look at the krome documents that I LinkedIn thing chrome has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/6338">TS</a>]
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02:20:03 ◼ ► always complain one of the things I complained chrome is the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8403">TS</a>]
02:20:06 ◼ ► clothes boxes are in right side of the tabs because I feel like because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8406">TS</a>]
02:20:10 ◼ ► Mac I know this is a good Windows Mac thing but closes always been left and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8410">TS</a>]
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02:20:22 ◼ ► should you know tab should be like a window and the clothes should be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8422">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► left and I've had people argue with me that with the clothes on the left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► you couldn't get this tap tap tap to close tabs but that doesn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► it's harder like this you can see Watchmen chrome stars resizing the month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8435">TS</a>]
02:20:38 ◼ ► easy for easier for it to put the next close box under your thing it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8438">TS</a>]
02:20:43 ◼ ► have a slight everything way over like it's a little bit easier to work out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8443">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► it's you know that's not a good reason to put it so much I don't think about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► favicon yeah I'd say hi I'm hoping I've been hoping for years it's one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8454">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► little things that I hope to see a double-dip UTC but I keep waiting for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:05 ◼ ► kid to get standard system no tabs and I feel like the tabs that they should take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8465">TS</a>]
02:21:11 ◼ ► safaris I think so far as are the best they're better than the finders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8471">TS</a>]
02:21:15 ◼ ► their way better than the ones in terminal just a little weird yeah I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8475">TS</a>]
02:21:23 ◼ ► like the trend is away from tabs even though we're all can't live without them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8483">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► and their adding them back to things in them act like they had attempts this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:32 ◼ ► Safari on iOS right and they made the crazy new updated version attempts with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8492">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► the progress bar is little blue line at the bottom of the tab you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► there there there still seems like they're still in the experimental phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:44 ◼ ► but thats because I don't like their weird mix some key features that we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8504">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► to use are not used by regular people using the tabs are pretty universal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:56 ◼ ► no matter how novice you are once you see how tabs work people and maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8516">TS</a>]
02:22:00 ◼ ► because there's a relation to paper tabs that used to exist way back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8520">TS</a>]
02:22:03 ◼ ► like they get it they use them and it's not it's not like a power user feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8523">TS</a>]
02:22:08 ◼ ► it's like super advanced people used to have everybody uses tabs so even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8528">TS</a>]
02:22:13 ◼ ► they make things much more complicated and make us lose track of where the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8533">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► things are in the worst case they make us not know where the hell that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► coming from cuz it's coming from one of the frequent adds that you can't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:22 ◼ ► they get used to my missus remembering this from last time I tinkered with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8542">TS</a>]
02:22:26 ◼ ► but I think Chromebooks are just tapped on anything to have windows I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8546">TS</a>]
02:22:32 ◼ ► everything is it I think it's you know the whole metaphor Chromebook Chromebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8552">TS</a>]
02:22:36 ◼ ► OS chrome OS's tabs if not if not it's clearly how the day in 10 people to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8556">TS</a>]
02:22:42 ◼ ► it if you can have multiple windows most of the tiredness opening taps i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8562">TS</a>]
02:22:47 ◼ ► a Chromebook 13 life and I just realized I don't think I ever use the software I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8567">TS</a>]
02:22:50 ◼ ► think I just played with the harder it was a Chromebook pixel I know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8570">TS</a>]
02:22:55 ◼ ► shows already been long and I we can go forever on his bed quickly what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8575">TS</a>]
02:23:00 ◼ ► do you think that the next version of Mac OS 10 is gonna get iOS 7 not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8580">TS</a>]
02:23:08 ◼ ► that it would look like Iowa seven but iOS 7 a score sized visual refresh I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8588">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► think it's probably do wrong if not in this release then the next one but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► needs more than a radical refresh of the look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► is they've got like gotta finish the job they started with like you know D iOS 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:30 ◼ ► and everything right now is they they just scraped up off the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8610">TS</a>]
02:23:34 ◼ ► they need to look go back to those applications if you really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8614">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► the applications like give each give each of those built-in apps a thorough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:42 ◼ ► redesign right and as part of that process may be home with some new ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8622">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► for the haul ass but a lot of bad a lot about it again it's an older OS has gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:53 ◼ ► through more changes we're out of the sort of iOS 6 level awkward phase like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8633">TS</a>]
02:24:00 ◼ ► we did that with brushed metal and pinstripes and steal things and laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8640">TS</a>]
02:24:04 ◼ ► injures and you know we we did that in the drawers and everything and we cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8644">TS</a>]
02:24:08 ◼ ► the other side and leopard with the unified single window appearance which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8648">TS</a>]
02:24:12 ◼ ► doesn't still doesn't look bad like it you know it looks good and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8652">TS</a>]
02:24:15 ◼ ► like we had that time were where was like having a you know an original idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8655">TS</a>]
02:24:21 ◼ ► and take that idea to its logical conclusion like they did with iOS 6 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8661">TS</a>]
02:24:25 ◼ ► say ok now it's time for a new idea that recent was around ten five so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8665">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► overdo for all you gotta change how the menu ROC gotta change how all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► standard window title bars look because the old one to look good anymore like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:36 ◼ ► its fine right it can be tweaked in a subtle way but they do need to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8676">TS</a>]
02:24:41 ◼ ► rethink all the applications that have been through this terrible trauma of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8681">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► being made to look like their iOS 6 counterparts and I'm not fully recovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:49 ◼ ► and finish the job of you know get dressed Game Center and all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8689">TS</a>]
02:24:53 ◼ ► still look like you know that you still before and and make those applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8693">TS</a>]
02:24:56 ◼ ► better like they have so much attention to safari is a part of the review is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8696">TS</a>]
02:25:00 ◼ ► such an important application like the web browser right but they continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8700">TS</a>]
02:25:03 ◼ ► ship you know mail and reminders and notes in those applications are not best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8703">TS</a>]
02:25:09 ◼ ► of breed right they don't show up on a great line especially in like with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8709">TS</a>]
02:25:13 ◼ ► whole thing with mail not working well as gmail because of the various changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8713">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► they'd like that they're trying to make it better but they screwed up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:20 ◼ ► know I don't know anyone who's ever used email with I would never use Gmail like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8720">TS</a>]
02:25:24 ◼ ► I have no experience in any past versions current pastor just a bad idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8724">TS</a>]
02:25:27 ◼ ► because they're not they don't get along I do I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8727">TS</a>]
02:25:31 ◼ ► and it's it's only I don't think it's almost because I'm nerdy enough and mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8731">TS</a>]
02:25:39 ◼ ► email nerdy enough that I had to I understand the way that they don't match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8739">TS</a>]
02:25:44 ◼ ► metaphorically and so because I understand it I purposely work around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8744">TS</a>]
02:25:50 ◼ ► like so I don't I know just and I think this is one of the things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8750">TS</a>]
02:25:54 ◼ ► are running into with the Mavericks mail where it's like you if you've turned off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8754">TS</a>]
02:26:00 ◼ ► the All Mail folder to the IMAP interest in her face in Gmail as everybody who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8760">TS</a>]
02:26:08 ◼ ► get two of every email when you search form then when you hit the archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8768">TS</a>]
02:26:14 ◼ ► button tends to disappear and reappear in your inbox and stuff so I just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8774">TS</a>]
02:26:18 ◼ ► hit males R KY I don't archive I have but there's new bugs in Mavericks were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8778">TS</a>]
02:26:23 ◼ ► like even if you follow the best practices in either following the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8783">TS</a>]
02:26:26 ◼ ► guidelines of the old ones are able to the new ones you get into a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8786">TS</a>]
02:26:28 ◼ ► where you'll receive new mail and it will not appear even in your inbox on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8788">TS</a>]
02:26:33 ◼ ► the Mac but it will appear in the WebUI regardless of whether you have all-male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8793">TS</a>]
02:26:36 ◼ ► awful like the old way all-male on like the new well I guess this is just full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8796">TS</a>]
02:26:40 ◼ ► of bugs like it that stuff reflects badly on Apple makes the Mac look bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8800">TS</a>]
02:26:44 ◼ ► and so needs to be addressed and in the process of addressing those you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8804">TS</a>]
02:26:47 ◼ ► some new ideas about you I and it could just be like a leading indicator where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8807">TS</a>]
02:26:52 ◼ ► they might possibly be thinking about going in terms of you I never really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8812">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► like we never got the iTunes 7 scrollbars the scrollbars we got in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8816">TS</a>]
02:27:00 ◼ ► at whatever they turned into little thin graphite sort of lozenges those didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8820">TS</a>]
02:27:04 ◼ ► look like the iTunes one but I don't like let's think about some things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8824">TS</a>]
02:27:08 ◼ ► we can do that right so I think the applications are placed experiment like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8828">TS</a>]
02:27:12 ◼ ► that in the US is due for I mean 10 5 was the big you know we will grant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8832">TS</a>]
02:27:17 ◼ ► five and it reset and now we're going around 10:10 injuries said it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8837">TS</a>]
02:27:21 ◼ ► about that time and it could totally use with one but I think it's more and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8841">TS</a>]
02:27:25 ◼ ► be perfectly fine if they just really gave the application some attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8845">TS</a>]
02:27:29 ◼ ► they just put a nice a nice subtle revision of all the you I am just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8849">TS</a>]
02:27:33 ◼ ► looking a little bit different that's enough like there's nothing there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8853">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► nothing new equivalent in the current version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:40 ◼ ► standard is equivalent to all the security office that there was an Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8860">TS</a>]
02:27:43 ◼ ► sexist not gaudy and embarrassing you know just look at a barber standard Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8863">TS</a>]
02:27:47 ◼ ► window you know maybe the little laws and to look a little bit dated or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8867">TS</a>]
02:27:51 ◼ ► looking at you know who would and felt in London here I've been wondering if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8871">TS</a>]
02:27:57 ◼ ► Lucida Grande Grande Grande like when you're starting monday is gonna go was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8877">TS</a>]
02:28:09 ◼ ► gonna be shown the door once you know the Mac is a mostly retin a platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8889">TS</a>]
02:28:15 ◼ ► which I still don't think it's gonna be a while before it's Mac is mostly ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8895">TS</a>]
02:28:20 ◼ ► devices because I just don't think it looks that good as as a real phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8900">TS</a>]
02:28:25 ◼ ► think it was nice choice as a screen fun and it went rendered well on nine Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8905">TS</a>]
02:28:30 ◼ ► screen is better than most fun to do but you know there's a reason I guess said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8910">TS</a>]
02:28:34 ◼ ► before on this show there's a reason why you don't see people using Lucida Grande [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8914">TS</a>]
02:28:38 ◼ ► in real document and print design and stuff because it's not a great find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8918">TS</a>]
02:28:43 ◼ ► well there's something to be said for using a fun that people wouldn't using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8923">TS</a>]
02:28:49 ◼ ► content right thing which the UI from the content right that is true and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8929">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► know i've talked about this with a lot of people that there is something to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8935">TS</a>]
02:28:58 ◼ ► that's a little as a longtime Mac user I've always seen the system fun that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8938">TS</a>]
02:29:04 ◼ ► going all the way back to the Chicago and then there was the next one charcoal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8944">TS</a>]
02:29:09 ◼ ► which you did you did you use charcoal urgent did you revert to Chicago number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8949">TS</a>]
02:29:14 ◼ ► used to have that option there was like SP sands and their yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8954">TS</a>]
02:29:19 ◼ ► talk about things out but would never do any more used to get a choice for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8959">TS</a>]
02:29:23 ◼ ► brush Script yeah but the days you know I always wonder with when they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8963">TS</a>]
02:29:30 ◼ ► the phone from Chicago I said I was going to go with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8970">TS</a>]
02:29:32 ◼ ► to go even though I didn't like the lowercase R but I did that I went with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8972">TS</a>]
02:29:39 ◼ ► it but it was always a fun Chicago and charcoal were always do sort of almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8979">TS</a>]
02:29:46 ◼ ► was not bold enough to be bold but bolder than a regular fun but it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8986">TS</a>]
02:29:50 ◼ ► you know it took up two pixels and a lot of places where instead of one and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8990">TS</a>]
02:29:55 ◼ ► would look good on Lowe's low Reds low res screens but there is always a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8995">TS</a>]
02:29:59 ◼ ► very visceral to meet difference between the UI fund and the content fonts yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/8999">TS</a>]
02:30:06 ◼ ► it was it was made weird by the fact that like so the reason Chicago look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9006">TS</a>]
02:30:11 ◼ ► way did is because they had to gray out menu items in the original Mac and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9011">TS</a>]
02:30:14 ◼ ► can't great things out when you have a black-and-white screen so they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9014">TS</a>]
02:30:17 ◼ ► make every single letter big enough so you could knock out every other pics on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9017">TS</a>]
02:30:21 ◼ ► checkerboard pattern you still read the words right right and when that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9021">TS</a>]
02:30:25 ◼ ► and they that also meant they had to Chicago as like for like a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9025">TS</a>]
02:30:30 ◼ ► free-form text where they wouldn't use you know the ground right now like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9030">TS</a>]
02:30:33 ◼ ► dialogue explain stuff if they would they would use that system fine as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9033">TS</a>]
02:30:37 ◼ ► and you just do not want to read a paragraph chicago is like it was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9037">TS</a>]
02:30:40 ◼ ► something you'd mind if I just looked awkward but they had to do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9040">TS</a>]
02:30:43 ◼ ► what if you had to go out that text or something you know I just uses and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9043">TS</a>]
02:30:47 ◼ ► they went with the new funds like charcoal and stuff didn't need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9047">TS</a>]
02:30:50 ◼ ► that Pixar thing anymore like they had gray scale but they somehow felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9050">TS</a>]
02:30:54 ◼ ► well a system fun if something looks big and chunky and so those funds are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9054">TS</a>]
02:30:58 ◼ ► big and chunky in like a listeners like moving its not as thin as Helvetica but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9058">TS</a>]
02:31:03 ◼ ► you know it's finally shedding that kind of I've got big fat forearms kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9063">TS</a>]
02:31:08 ◼ ► look of the funds right now it doesn't look like that looks like I'm consultant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzLhZe0/9068">TS</a>]
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