00:00:00 ◼ ► I don't feel like there's a lot going on you should there's a lot going on so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► know what's running before you texted me yesterday added to to get on this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► just shows how was thinking where is the talk show episode for this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/11">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► turns out I met exactly but if you let down from me but I must be thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/17">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► where the housing new show and then you find out your own show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/23">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► yeah exactly do you like it but yeah but I like it like I said I was a kid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/26">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► didn't think we had him to talk about and then when I thought about it and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/30">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► lot has happened so a lot has happened it's good that means you have an agenda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► ya go to last year I have a few things I have a lot you know it's a classic slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/38">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► sad news period but I mean look at this link the new phones came out I was seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/48">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► second enders who's to use passing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► apple vodka you think Microsoft had some crazy shit going down into video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/59">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► and actually thought about what happened this week there's been a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/68">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► yeah there's a lot of the sound like a lot but there's not a lot of talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► with a lot of that you know like with the panic in video games thing sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► cool it really does it say they're they're sort of investing in little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/81">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► video games start up with some really cool names attached but but you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/86">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► you know what the cool part of that is going to be when actual games come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► not just the announcement and events it is what it is he got covered on polygon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► interview with it cable and the guys there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► school districts adding something to upset about this week I was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/105">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► anything that might be the problem the problem might be that nothing made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► yeah pretty straightforward I think the 64 bit thing I like a marketing gimmick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/119">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► yeah I think that's still interesting I feel like there's like this there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/127">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► there's still a contingent of love and it's funny because I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/132">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► people who heard the most skeptical about it are somewhat technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/135">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► informed but there there is a subset of technically informed nerds who also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/140">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► Venn diagram is don't like Apple or don't trust outboard don't think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► stuff is technically cutting edge and that at the intersection of them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/153">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► people who think that the 64 bit the movies 64 bit is like maybe even almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/162">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► a scam to work with my cash writer or did you not overlap you guys did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/166">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► overlapping you guys we worked to get a little bit when I was working and and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/178">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► really really did however right up his blog piece unsorted was a 64 bit and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/185">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► just got a layman's overview and informed layman's overview of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/191">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► actual advantages of 64 bit and I've emailed that to some people who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► getting my email is often should sell access to my email but I you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/199">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► not as vitriolic as as comments would be but it's you know it's it's acerbic from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/206">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► the people who don't don't like the stuff that I write you know you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/212">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► you know I'm friends with Mike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/218">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► he got email there was basically arguing with you which is directed at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/222">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► telling him he's his blog posts to technical and I don't know if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/228">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► he does not take that kind of shared a little momentum of you that he does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/234">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► suffer fools exactly that I couldn't think of a better way to describe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► should have seen what it is but yet a very very small piece that explains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/246">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► exactly what the benefits and pros and cons and are not just affect the chip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/255">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► sixty-four beard but this software changes to the runtime that it be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► to take advantage of it right and that's where he really covered well that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/267">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► I really I have to say going and it wasn't I kind of knew vaguely the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/271">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► that there was a lot better but that really that's the heart of it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► think maybe in basic terms in general if just platform just call it a platform is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/281">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► 32 bit computing platform and then you move it to 64 bit in general that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► doesn't necessarily mean anything gets faster it might even get so yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/293">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► tell anything just by doubling everything doesn't doesn't know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► it's it's almost like like the canonical logical argument that ok there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/302">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► hundred hundred bills of money in a bag and one guy takes 10 of them and get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► yes you can answer because you don't know the value of the denominations that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► the guy who took the 10 bills might have taken all hundreds and the other guy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► left with $91 bills you know it's it's it's very productive to just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/325">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► well this one's got 32 bit or 64 bits go twice as good just doesn't work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/331">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► that all right you have to know the specifics but in the specifics of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/339">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► move of iOS and they seven armed going from 32 to 64 it actually is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/344">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► very practical advantages yes both in the chip in the there's sort of you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/351">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► the ISO which is the instruction said did you know the assembly that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/357">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► generated as you see good less is good ways of doing stuff and it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/363">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► like Kraft the can accumulate and going to disarm 64 I said it does away with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/370">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► lot of the craft and so the hitting reset but yeah and they take advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/380">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► of that often when Apple Genius architectures Creek the objective on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► time because it is the Briton binary compatibility anyway so since binary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/391">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► compatibility is going to be booked in they take that opportunity to do fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► stuff the projected time that the kind of unable to do up until that point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/404">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► the case of the m60 for the deal with them because this pointers 64 bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/410">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► they don't need all those bids to accurately represent what's in memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► they can do some fancy tricks like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► pointers which means it let's say you've got a number you don't actually need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/424">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► to point to a number you can sort of encoded in line in in what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/431">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► defacto it is sort of an in-line memory object that seems like one of the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/437">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► ones they came away with is the fact that they don't need all 64 bits in a 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► bit pointer for the printer itself use those extra bits very judiciously to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/448">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► stash some information about the object itself or the pointer big win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/453">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► here's the one thing somebody sent me somebody and I can't say who it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► friend that Apple but in my gashes piece he wrote in short the approved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/462">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► improvements to Apple's runtime make it so that object allocation and 64 bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► mode costs only forty to fifty percent of what it doesn't 32 bit mode if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/472">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► app creates and destroys a lot of objects that's a big deal and what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/477">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► friend Alfa Romeo where they just quoted that part the city if your app creates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► and destroys a lot of objects he said that every so maybe if you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/486">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► let's say a game where the game is only very thin layer of cocoa and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/492">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► everything else inside is all custom C or C++ or something like that it may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/498">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► be as big a deal but there might be other graphics headlines but like for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► app that actually doing a lot of standard iOS Coco stuff it's a huge win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/507">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► because object everything's an object yeah that's exactly the case if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/512">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► braiding Coco you are allocating objects left right and center especially now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/517">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► that it's been made even easier like they hear your ideas but recently couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/521">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► Objective C language so you could you could you could add sign and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/532">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► number and I would allocate I can annus number which is a class which represents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► a number in the old days that would actually have to be like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/543">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► allocation to allocate a small object and now these days with the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/549">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► they've rejected the user take pointers and everything that's it's effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► for free so there's a lot of really good wins in a lot of small places that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/559">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► wouldn't expect but did you know they really do it right I think and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► think one way to look at it is that for most iOS developers the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/568">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► let's say most non game developers and I think it almost makes sense to separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► them because even if you look at the Tech Talks right which are going around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► the country they've broken up into two now where there's the games one and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► everybody else one yeah and I think one way to look at that is are you writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► mostly cocoa and Objective C code or you mostly writing sort of cross-platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/590">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► graphics code for the games for the cocoa people iOS and Mac OS 10 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/596">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► especially as the years have gone by and and carbon assorted been put out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► pasture and even absurd officially are technically carbon absurd really now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/608">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► mostly Coco internally because you know they can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/612">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► that the the operating system is more than just what you think of as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/617">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► operating system it's it's the operating system plus that that Coco runtime on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/621">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► top of it yet and that's where a lot of these you know not all but a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/626">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► the advantages to going 64 bit and I was 7 really take effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/633">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► I'm one of those guys who would do 64 bit build because it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/646">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► complicated anyway given the you've been very encouraging you know he doing ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/652">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► I'm sure didn't spend a lot of time getting this proved to be 64 know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/659">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► said on his blog I mean literally just a couple minutes he had a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► buddies it was but it was a couple of things in them is easy to search and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► replace for throughout the whole so for me personally I wouldn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/670">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► need to take a long time evaluating the benefits and would just do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/677">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► it's not that big a deal and it they're typically telegraphing with it went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► go and that's what brand marlys of behind the scenes was that he'd really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/685">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► does if anybody has a hard time goings has no sympathy for him because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/690">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► may not have actually said they were gonna go 64 bit on iOS iOS soon but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► would you know brent perspective was anybody even if you weren't a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► Developer all even if you're relatively you know if you your introduction that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► Apple development is iOS you should at least have had the common sense to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/707">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► that you know iOS trails Mac OS 10 by a couple of years in terms of cards yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/711">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► some regards and one of them would be 64 bit frankly this is a particularly when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/717">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► I would've guessed I would guess next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/724">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► yeah yeah like a higher and iPad you know maybe not the media I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/728">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► mention this on the show couple weeks ago after the event but I was at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► event when I was in the audience I was two seats over from a 909 attack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/742">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► when they announce the 64 bit thing there are a couple people before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► show everybody you know we all just sit around waiting for them to let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► everybody starts taking guesses what what might be a surprise and couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► people did say that but it was sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► just should check but when they announce that I looked over at him on and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/761">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► seemed like surprised he was and I was like ok and there must be a surprise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► know and I i asked him after he said yeah I woulda thought I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► thought that was a 2414 thing yeah I was really can before the event you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/773">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► there was a couple of 64 bit rumors but there's always liked you know that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/783">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► mini yes there's there's always a I told him he had something running on 64 bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/789">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► I'm sheds whether or not that actually product is a totally different question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/795">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► you know and figuring out what the product is actually going to be that see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/800">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► if rumors is a totally different game I'm glad they did this thing looks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/806">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► accessing large amount to memories know what the point of this ship is right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/823">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► one thing that I've heard it's a one on one PC speculation that's become quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/832">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► comment is did if they do an Apple TV to compete with his next generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/838">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► consoles it'll be built on this which i think is pretty obvious you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/843">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► not going to ship something that's not on this picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/849">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► yeah I would definitely think that that's the case I mean I whether thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/853">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► gonna happen this year I would think no I would just think common sense says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/858">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► know that the chip is probably too expensive to put in a $99 Apple TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/863">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► it's probably too too too hard to make right now they'd rather you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/869">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► why waste time in the $99 Apple TV when there are still three four weeks behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/873">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► shipping the fight I tend to agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/877">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► the other thing is is that whatever the Apple TV console de slashed living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/880">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► thing is going to be the next generation of consoles from Sony and Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/888">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► coming out with eight gigs of ram and is no way you can put it into a $99 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/893">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► well maybe they would I mean they're already there for example I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/901">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► definitely behind in RAM compared to you know cutting-edge Android devices I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► I think if I Vestal as one gigabyte around and I think like the most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/910">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► top tier and red concept to pics yet I'll come back to that in bed but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/915">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► agree I don't think that they would try to compete in terms of raw performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► and I think a lot of these articles are you looking at this this new i7 chip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► being really excited about its capabilities and China projected into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/931">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► Apple TV are really seeing it as did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/935">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► I don't think they're appreciating how hard it would be to get that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/940">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► power in the kind of price point Apple TV sales but maybe next year maybe next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/944">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► yeah exactly so with regards to the Android have any more RAM I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/950">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► bunch of that has to do it the more RAM you have them repaired and we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/956">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► offline before I think maybe this on the show I don't know but if you got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/963">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► two gigs of ram you need to power there and I think so just wait till I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/969">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► empower you know one gigabit and only power the second gate when using I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/976">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► never heard of anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► haven't heard that you have to do some crazy swapping stuff in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► that working out enough never heard of that be the way the more RAM you packing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/987">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► you mean the more chances you see packing device the more power you did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/992">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► great part of the chain oh well and I still think and i know i've i've sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/996">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► banging this drum for years but I still think it's very telling that I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► we can't even talk on this later in the show that's one of my ideas reagan maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► is next year would go with a bigger screen iPhone at least as an option and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► I know that way more breath is spent wondering why Apple hasn't already gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► to a bigger screen and will they go to a bigger screen soon whereas I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► the thing that doesn't get attention is how come if the current iPhone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► relatively smaller screen and smaller form factor is the single most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► profitable device in the industry which nobody denies it is the single best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► selling phone in the industry wide why still don't any of the other you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► like Samsung or somebody like that come out with a top tier SPECT phone of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► size and I can't help but wonder is that they can't that they don't you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► the power consumption that they're going through to get the performance that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► have that they need a bigger battery and that's why they have one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► why they only had attended you that I think that if they did naked device the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► same sort of size and form factor then it would be found wanting in battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► life the screen would be shittier fast maybe they couldn't call it as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► whatever you know I think if they went to tell in the exact same sort of form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► factor they're just not as good IT hardware Apple you know maybe Nokia yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► and Nokia's the only one who's done it I guess you know although I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► questionable I feel like you know you could argue that the Lumia is that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► the highest regarded and have the best performance are the bigger screen ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► but some of the first ones were in a relatively speaking about iPhones and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► don't think it's any surprise in Tokyo was the only other company to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► yeah I don't either but they felt they just haven't seen one of the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► screen one but yeah I totally expect Apple screen next year if only because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► they think now they're getting it today remember the first few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► iPod we're just be after iPod and they just getting bigger more features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► then they started diversifying the line I think we're at the point and I for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► we were gonna start diversifying having a large screen one effectively iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► pro which is you know you go to your game and then did you know the disorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► more consumers from five see I always forget whether spoke about on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► it's not in the show so if I'd said the Sun maybe I said this on the show last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► week with months but I still think it's a good question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► alright clearly there's some demand for a bigger screen i've but I feel there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► two entirely different groups who want a bigger screen iPhone one is relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► younger people who have good eyes and want to pack more pixels on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► so they can fit let's just say if they're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► they can fit more words on the screen at one time the other group is in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► relatively older people who have were size who want the same amount of tax but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► they just wanted twenty percent bigger so that the same data text is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► and and how would you implement that one group I think you would want like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► know way more pixels per inch they wanted a higher density screen the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► group would want what's effectively like the residue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► 264 pixels per inch of the current right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► iPad and just cut five-inch iPhone screen out of that same display but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► don't see how you make both of those groups happy well so one argument effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► for me to remember where I got this from somebody pretty smart but if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► where you want to be attributed in a lot of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► you get to pick one computing device and phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► kemal and tablets too big and so you can get a phone like a sort of a mid-range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► so to screen you can accomplish sort of like to have a DES like I had many sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1254">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► of stuff on on her phone on something that you can carry in your pocket you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► know me like it's it's clearly compromised down the line but it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► works if you wanna go one kind of device yeah I think you'd probably want but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► don't think that that market is necessarily sensitive to that it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► sensitive to lick well this device would have a sweet spot for you know certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► markets I think that some of the note for example is it really is almost silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► devices use it doesn't but I feel like maybe it's there's a practical advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► to only carrying one device not you know the guy I think that's too big but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► think it does sort of its popular right now while its popular enough and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► able to actually where I was I wrote about this last year was a year ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► it was when I was switching from AT&T or Verizon before the iPhone 5 came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► wanted to get my account switched before the phone came out to suit all be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► order so I had to go into a Verizon store and it wasn't there I was a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► that the week before the iPhone came out wasn't by the thought it was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► to ask a guy to Verizon story if this is what I'm going to do is it is it gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► go off without a hitch and while I was in the Verizon store it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► you know I would say she's probably colleges but role you know real short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► very short woman was in there you know why you say she was just just just left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► his college age and then but I think the fact that she was small emphasize she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► got it phone and she and her boyfriend was with you sure you don't wanna knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► and she was like right out of a commercial for Sampson she was a no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► want you know I don't have a tablet and I wanna do a lot of reading on it so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► was gonna buy the Galaxy s3 or whatever the current year ago and then she even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► said she was obviously well-informed too because then she said I you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► she and she said can I was even thinking about the note and I think Verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► didn't sell the note and so that was the only if Verizon had sold the Galaxy Note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► which was even bigger should have bought that she wanted to stay in Verizon so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► she just wanted the exactly what you mean this is you know I was just there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► overhearing exactly that she didn't own a tablet didn't want to buy a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► tablet just wanted one thing and I've heard from a lot of people that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► like a big part of the overall sales of these five inches bigger screens are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► women in asia and you know who are you know just you know demographically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► physically smaller and certainly their hands are smaller but they like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► because they only have one device to carry and they don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► putting in a pocket because they have a person with them at all times and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► just put it in your purse so it doesn't matter if it doesn't fit in a pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► so would be stupid for your iPad to make calls it is it always is to stick it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► your face but it comes with us here but with a talking well any other thing too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► is you know you don't have to get me anywhere you know that's even vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► touristy you you don't have to go far before you see someone with the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► screen iPod or iPad taking photos with it so if they're going to hold it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► take photos and then why not hold it up and make phone calls I don't mean it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► kind of stupid but it's stupid but I mean it's stupid not to do that i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► it does FaceTime FaceTime I think that the thing with using iPads as cameras I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► see so many people doing it that it's it's like the the repetition of it is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► eroding the comedy so many people are doing it that it you can't make fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► it anymore because everybody's doing it was like when the kids wear the pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► that their ass showing yeah I clicked the sagging jeans after five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► years of that you just can't get bored of thinking it's stupid it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► way things are and I'll tell you where I see I'm in any kind of kids event you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► school players who might that I mean it's unbelievable how many parents have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► the iPod iPad in front of their face the whole time just holding it up videoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► holding cash that's that's we went good I guess I don't know but I thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► there's something about it they don't i mean maybe they know that they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► stupid but they don't care what they have a maybe maybe when you record you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► did you just did not give it would anybody thinks it's a good one it I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► to capture this may be the x-factor on that too is especially for like video in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► something like that so the argument against using your phone to do it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► like the Louie CK argument right but is more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► how about you just put your fucking phone in your pocket and enjoy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► moment for real for once you know they hear these kids up on stage singing her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► heart out being embarrassed and nervous in front of all these people how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► you just be in the moment and just enjoy it and remember it I like we going with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► his cuz you about to say that with the iPad it's a larger screens exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► it's not so much that you're watching it on a little two or three inch screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► missing you're watching it on its own ice cream still which is not the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► watching it for real but it's almost like in terms of your field of vision it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► is you know relatively comfortable it's interesting I think Louie CK would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► have plenty of fish yeah definitely we have but it might explain why people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► that so yeah but I so I do think that Apple do I think it's inevitable yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► think so I think and I think may be the way to go is to put more pixels in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► but maybe have some kind of way into settings to you know within a day in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► that direction that they're going with the the dynamic to say I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► alright I got this bigger phone and as all these pictures I want to text bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► and then when you adjusted and settings once that hopefully systemwide not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► in Apple's apps button third party apps will take that Q and make stuff bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► rather than pack more on the screen they mean they can defaulted by device is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► nothing saying that every day to deal with SSL the same default device should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► you got a device with a wacky resolution you could just type right it could even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► be the default is bigger tax and that the the younger nerdier people who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► to pack more on screen would have to set lower expect other people to set a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► higher ok I honestly expected the IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► enemies r-iowa 72 have different default type settings I did to the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► yeah well I mean that I was seven on that but not quite fully baked yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► yeah I think I mention this to I think I actually think they even got worse with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► the gym I because I was running the bases on iPad and the iPhone over summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► and I feel like it got worse with the iPad with the gym I'm still some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► kind of surprise announced today that they released it at the same time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► really thought maybe they would do like 7.0 would be iphoneonly and we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► wait an extra month for 7.1 and then it would support ya Kos what people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► start like when they had just like the iPad only build yeah I mean I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► think it was a disaster for them and it doesn't seem like it's been a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► but it is clearly still i mean you know that the WWC right it's just always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► seemed like it was tracking three weeks through four weeks behind the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► version and it still did even when they released the GAO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► yeah I don't know one thing I've seen over and over again is it you know i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► relied on my email on the iPad just catch up on email the end of the day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► a lot of my email is you know people send me links at Apple Inc and Apple Inc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► and usually shoot over to Safari and you read loading you read it but every once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► in awhile at Apple Inc and I just get like a white screen just wait and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► you know I'm guessing that it's like flushing memory or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► but it takes a long time 56 seconds and even when it's not happening I can't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► I click the home button nothing happens it's his locks up for 56 seconds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► then support comes in it's all back to normal but that's very unusual get two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► days that you click yeah ok so you do eventually get yeah but it's just a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► unusual for iOS wait I mean I think it's more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► the the iOS equivalent of Pakistan's rainbow cursor right they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► show you the rainbow never been killing me it is I were 73 has internet taps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► thing which just means that I now have infinite number of tabs set up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► somebody told me I had it I said that but somebody told me that there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► limit I think it's like 32 I'm I guess what and don't actually have an infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► but it got way more than like a deal on my Mac and are complaining I felt but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► is kinda funny like they used to be pretty disciplined about like it opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► something and it had read it within a day now I've got a to Micro yeah hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► that next few weeks ago and she probably didn't write like on the one hand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► really sucked when you had all eight tabs lots filled up and you opened the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► ninth and it would overwrite the oldest or whatever it used to figure out which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► one would overwrite it would overwrite one of them and if you don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► what it was you have this nagging feeling about there was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► important I had an attack I'm lost it but in a weird way it's it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► disciplinarian like every major like to read it and closed it or book market but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► either way do something with it and get out here and whereas now yeah sorta like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► you I'm surprised I haven't had the 32 limit yeah me too I actually really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► express I do like the fact that they show you all the tabs open only other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► machines that's awesome yeah I think that's great I think that's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► little quiet places where for me at least iCloud is working great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► yes 2010 I should follow it on this but if I engage do not disturb and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► only for people like us who are two stories like stacks and he seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► around but if I put do not disturb on one phone I just want that to put all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► I got a bad I do not disturb and then get an email and it's got to turn it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1914">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► in like 30 2012 happen to have an extra terminal just keeping it yes to being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► device setting it should be a service said yeah like Cloud accounts like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► any machine that has the Maya my iCloud account should also shut up until yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► yeah I could see that gave Golden bit of course looping back to the arm 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► besides the Apple TV console fantasy stuff a lot of people started talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► about sticking this chip inside a Mac yeah I did too I should I get done like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► publicly I just said today that it was announced as I can't help but think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► know this procedure you know I don't think you're doing my laundry shocked if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► it's not running in the labs right I would definitely think so there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► it's not otherwise you just crazy weird weird weird everybody is trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► something in for a couple reasons you know i i think for one thing once Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► 10 moved to 64 bit on on Intel couple years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► clearly any future transition to another platform was also gonna have to be 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► but I think for other real good but I don't think it would be weird right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► mean they're good at spotting marketing stuff at times I don't think I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► don't think that but I think for a couple of other reasons too though like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► 64 instruction said and the whole day 7 as a whole is being a desktop class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► architecture they punch that word times they also punched oh here's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► for the A six did they were describing inside 25 °c like it if they kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► punching console Evan gaming so level graphics and then the a seven was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► explode away and just waited a pic words randomly like when they say desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► class CPU they they want to evoke exactly that sort of thought they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► to revoke the conspiracy conspiracy theories of the next MacBook Air is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► gonna because it's just a powerful well and i also think too that way especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► with the MacBook Air MacBook Air and this is one of those areas to wear where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► you know the iPhone has clearly gone this route now where there's two new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► devices one of them is about having cutting-edge specs and being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► high-end you know very you know the most expensive phone on the market and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► other one is about being still great but more about other things right with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► MacBook has been like that all along they've always been tears and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► MacBook Pro is you know has the Retina screen now you know obviously has as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► much higher performance than the air the air is always about being lightweight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► battery life ditch the optical drive early right as his team was auctioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► the very first ones I think it was always a sissy I don't think they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► ever had a movie a was you can get a spinning hard and it was placed right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► but it was like what was the point because exactly performance was bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► everything ya know you're right so I feel like they could do that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► couldn't theory I think put an arm 64 chip in a MacBook Air and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► performance takes a hit on certain benchmarks if battery life doubles again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► and they could say you know here now if we have a Mac with 21 hours of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► life that's a win because of your concern is the performance you're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► a MacBook Pro anyway yeah I yes it's so I'm speaking at Coco confident the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► of the month in my target actually all about power management and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► I think people have been chasing this current track analogy way too much juice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► I mean its debt that that was what Steve Jobs explanation is Iowa's devices in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► this the Mac and will always have the Mac is the magazine trapped in the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► devices around and everybody just needs a car to get around that was circuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► 2010 which is at the deed whatever All Things D conference about three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► after the original iPad came out yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► and people keep trying this out over and over and over and I i mean less again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► but everybody knows he just so you know I think there was a metaphor to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► the situation at the time I don't think that is anything set in stone it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► an immutable fact the way to computers work I think then rather than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► seeing cars and trucks I think we're going to end up seeing a continuum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► performance versus power consumption and you know and you can't even look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► you can take you know if you want to you could look at it and say there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► sorts of different trucks to there's everything you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► yeah you get UFC 150 right now we've got one of the giant which is to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► through versus you know my kid lit legitimate Metro that'll be out in about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► a month ago nothing versus a macbook pro vs MacBook Air Force's an iPad programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► iPad with a bunch of extra money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► storage all the way down to look a little watching something right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► you've got something like a member the El Camino Ave El Camino up in canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah you know what I want but I wanted to evoke I gotta say is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► the Microsoft Surface a demotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► no compromises no compromises to cards truck it's not even just a current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► attract its sporty car it's a muscle car and that's the problem with it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► combined Vegas sports karadzic but it appeals to ascertain like you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► look a Subaru it's kind of a similar sort of hybrid and super 8 for Subaru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► had one like that I forget what it was all better fuel Subaru welcome you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► they had a car that was like a suit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► Kamina Daddy super the BRAC look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► you gotta go to the Super have you seen you look at this link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► yeah I remember hanging out with you got his Subaru Brat and pratt was an acronym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► for by Dr recreational altering holy crack that is saying you don't want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► will see about the draft though is that they didn't go the sports coat job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► tracking do it it the superb read I think looks like like something that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► couple of really clever high school kids yes taking auto shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► could could do to a Subaru station wagon yes like they would get hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► designing automobiles yeah right out of high school and then they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► embarrassing yeah but it is at this ones you know seems a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► practical but anyway it's like you said there is a continuum even between cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► and trucks yeah I think they're holding anything that Steve said to preciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► is a mistake just in general I don't think he held anything he said so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► well i i think just take a look I think that he only meant that metaphor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► analogy at a very very shallow level which was that look for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► everybody drove trucks and a you know if you're going to buy a motor vehicle you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► might as you have to haul stuff around and then all of a sudden there was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► know a market opportunity to come out with something that we just moved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► people around and didn't have all that cargo you know there's a certain speck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► in terms of what you can haul that cars you know come out almost practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► zero like what you can put in the trunk of a car compared to the bed of a truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► is tiny and you know it's true then and there is a point though were the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► who you know a diehard truck users are going to assume that everybody needs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► and they're gonna say nobody nobody can get by but this and I think that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► that so I would ever talk fully but definitely I see that there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► be continuing between these things and I i think you know like an armed 64 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► MacBook Air I don't think that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► in fact I bet you working there now whether or not it'll be a product that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► that has to do with things that we can't possibly guess from the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► yeah and who knows you know it could it could really come down to you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► kind of shoot your meeting you know between Tim cooking and whoever else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► executives from Intel and you know they come into the room and there's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► the machine running you know here's the here's a prototype running now what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► of deal you wanna give us yes exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► and the funny thing is is it until just throw money at Sampson if you want I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► remember from hearing this rate but I seem to recall that maybe they did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► before they went Intel they showed like the last PowerPC you know what I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► know the code name for them but that they needed one trying to get IBM to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► actually you know they were begging and pleading they did not want to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► power PCs right and true I was pretty good just told you start out there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2574">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► the thing with the power PC as they would IBM was actually developing power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► chips actually called she's power something but they were high and service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► yeah yeah they were like you know they were competing with Sun SPARC chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► you know the heavy duty late nineties early two thousands kind of workstations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► workstations glass chips and the power PC was cut down versions of those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► they had promised to be able to fit into a laptop and they just could never get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► the g5 in there because its way to hot which is kind of a surprising when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► think about it because it taking something is built to be working with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► you no air conditioning fans and all kinds of stuff and you know trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► stick to the laptop it's clearly but if stretch there so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► new way of coming out from the ARM chips seems interesting gives us another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► interesting thing is to identify a an application class where we are required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► a lot more performance over the years like recently during a mean like seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► like we can edit Word files fine you know I mean Rick maps media but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► acts more CGP used I feel like I feel like some of the performance stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► recently and one of them I for one of them I feel you can never underestimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► is is how computationally expensive HTML rendering yeah like it's you forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► this investment rate when you try to text is as well but we never used we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► never used the but prior to iowa 7 you know whatever the text you is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2694">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► know what i'm saying is like what people don't understand is if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► proper training and if you want to measure the lines per correctly just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► simple just good proper text layout is actually computationally expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► especially when it's in a view that you expect to be able to scroll with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► finger at 60 frames as you need to sort of Italy iteratively sold the Lego Harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► going way out the text inside of me becoming a little bit extra to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► but the end like you know depending how you see the alignment now it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► expensive and then add in all the arbitrary layout stuff that you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► modern HTML engine do and its end up being very expensive and you can tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► I remember testing it with the original iPhone where everybody knew that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► edge you know that the cellular network in with super super slow on the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► iPhone but even when you were on why fight it took a long time to reply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► general you don't see any more is that you know that checkbox patterns used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► school to terry has come a long range so that's one area where performance is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► still a factor I do I just read this week there is a good piece on MacRumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► maybe was last week about deejay and Vijay from the rhythm and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► performance gains they saw just by recompiling 464 like the same app before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► they recompiled 464 ran it on the iPhone 5s so it's you know and it's not when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► you run a 32 bit app on the 5s it's not emulated it's you know it runs 32 bit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► code natively yeah they've actually got a separate section of the chip that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► 32 per code is executing they'll just cut power to it so there is a classic if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► you guys don't know djane Vijay there these you know really cool but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► have this crime but you know they're like it for like was indeed a program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► and program they can mix video in a similar way both very very well done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► even even deejay the one just for music though is graphically intensive in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► of having these controls the track your fingers so you can sync up the two songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► and do all the stuff that DJs dude to scrub and they must get that as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► possible and it's super smooth going 64 bit just recompiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► without rewriting to Sri compiling 464 way more performance so that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► there's definitely stuff like that so I agree I just think that there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► in the minority use case probably I think one of the areas where which isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► to say everybody but I think everything started to show ya I know details but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2872">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► once you know what i'm saying is I think maybe now we're camping out in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► what we need in terms of power and sorry in terms of computational speed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► maybe now what we want to be going for his I never want to put my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► yeah yeah like when they be great to get two solid days out of an iPhone still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► get one day but have to be a little faster yeah I mean average is 1 p.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► this week can we talk about that I think so I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and you know the major features of that our policy meeting and this isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► desktop OS in 2013 to head out find it fascinating that sort of the major push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► to make your Mac act more like an iPhone I think that's definitely the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2934">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► wholesalers do this for sponsor reagan and that's about however with 50 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► any shipments calling it a bit early to start wanting to start the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► early bird outcome if you've ever read certain me god bless you because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► know that the companies that most of the company's la register domains all there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► to do it registering a domain is named in their business their businesses up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► selling you with all sorts of stuff you don't want if you don't check the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► there's there's their scams really they really are I'm not going to name names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► but you can probably take against some of the companies however is the complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► opposite they never try to upset up so you on anything all they want to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► so you domain names with a great interface a great management interfaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► after you register domains and offer you good services that you might want from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► domain registrar like who is privacy and domain forwarding features that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/2994">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► actually makes sense for domain registry they make the whole process easy to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► a.com address for.net Dodd co Dods CEO that's what we got 44 Vesper app . me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► just about done anything you wanted to legitimate top-level domain they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► easy to search for available domain names which is often one of the hardest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► parts and they make it easy to see what's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► similar to what you're looking for what top-level domains you can get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► if you have any problems at all they are well known throughout the industry for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► having great customer support you just call her in a real human being answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► the phone and I'll take care of your problems they even have something called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► Valley transfers so if you have a domain somewhere else at some domain registry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► that you're unhappy with you wanna switch they will literally do the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► process of moving the demand a hug her for you and that can be a huge pain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► the ass and they recently also didja started offering if you want Google Apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► for domains so you can use their using Google Apps to get you know let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► you have your whole demeanor company your small business whatever running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► gmail through your domain you can go to hover and I'll help you integrate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► I'll tell you what they've got is they've got a 30 day free trial to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► what you think I bet there's no single person has taken up under 30 day free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► trial who hasn't stuck with him to go to Harvard ID com slash talk-show TLK SH 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► W find out mourner and demand from you know what I gotta do I gotta use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► lasers thing I gotta get it to mean it stuck on network you know the guys you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► don't forget about it all the time but I'm going to use him Valley think it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3111">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► a few unlike some oddball registrars where I don't even remember why over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► years that I used some oddball one off I got one domain on this one read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► consolidate all have a good they have a tasty beverage with a tasty beverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► actually ducked up to two beloved doing here a dream but we talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► the chips power management said we're isn't it interesting that that Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► direction after 24 Mavericks both the hardware and it was really i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► was the whole the whole take away from this year's upgrade to the MacBook Airs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► was really all about battery Li yeah I mean the screen which is a shame I kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► don't envy them working although it is a good page twelve those batteries good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► whatever 18 hours whatever but the same time since sex you know you don't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3172">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► do it Emily the Unreal Engine but you sort right it's definitely harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► demo you know I mean let's face it mean in some ways you know the Mac Pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► almost certainly going to be the by unit sales the least popular Mac that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► makes it probably always has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► because it's so expensive in so one of my most interesting devices looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► forward to but it's you know it's not a mass-market device you know it's a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► car but it demos it's great for demos because you can you know that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► where you can do that you know you can run the most advanced demos you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► possibly think of right you can do you can create video you know or graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► demos that could only run on a Mac Pro so it's great for demos and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► what's the MacBook Air and probably almost certainly the Mac with the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► graphics capabilities you need to do they need to look like a MacBook Air in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► a glass cube of the Vegas trip with one of those situations just as a kinder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► stuff just have it running she would run last longer while i was thinkin bout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► whenever I go whenever I'm in an airport and you just walking down the terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► or gate and and you just see you know grown businessman wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► nice suit just sitting on the floor back against the wall because they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► have their laptop near an outlet yep it's a serious something to vote for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► high school thing for me there and I know it's just weird helplessness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► this guy that's like this kinda stuck sitting in the corner with his laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► plugged in sitting like right it's not comfortable but it's the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► commodity in an airport is battery because there's so few outlets you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► very few airlines I mean there's Virgin America which sadly few people fly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► their struggling they've got power outlets by the seats but most airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► don't so once you're on the plane it's like whatever battery life you've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► your laptop when you get on the plane that's all you've got for the flight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► Virgin Wines can you get when I probably to Vegas no Vegas to San Francisco for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► the weekend then went to be on time I've done the opposite I have owned San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► Francisco virgin all the two quick of a fight was very nice yeah it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► particularly tasty but there's very few airlines I mean just because the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► there you know that planes redesign few of the airlines have planes that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► designed for the modern hero where people really desperately need AC power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► in their seats and who knows you know the way that everything is transitioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► you know by the time you know planes get refresh there may not even be an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► anymore and people still wanna see phones and stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► version even has a mess I miss remembering I it's been a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► months since I fly virgin even has USB outlets which is really way need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► have seen a few things but anyway it's clearly and I'm not optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► well i think thats you know it certainly hasn't been advancing in the same move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► you know computer technology no definitely not but that's why some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► the things some of the jumps that Apple is taken in recent years stick out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► the fact that this year's MacBook Airs went from I forget what they were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► year before but it was more than just like a one or two hour bump it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► a five or six hours yet and as far as I haven't looked at this have to do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► musicians talking any good but it's not like the batteries got better it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► the software and hardware got better to me but the basic power source is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► improving very good you know that's clear like you said that's clearly a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► of averages about what else is in Mavericks that battery oK so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► good question there's a couple of things they play near if all of the windows in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► your app recovered you'll get a call back you'll you'll be notified and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► you can start doing a kind of background processing because you clearly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► rendering right you will be updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► that seem like a big one in and of itself the fact that a window that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► obscured isn't going to consume power cuz I was it really good demo at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► yes I was sitting with his parish in where none after the show up as a parish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► in Luke Adams and whose ex gay very gay we were trying to figure out how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► works because if you're expecting to update if you're in you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► let's say you were you playing something back in the background in expecting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► update sixty times a second dividends issues and you do work that isn't purely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► two-banded but is is to do some sort of housekeeping staff and when you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► covered then you don't get a chance to do that housekeeping stuff what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► doing now what's the answer the answer is you get told when you're first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► even as a web page know we also heard it right and they juggle whatever their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► legal rights over nap to take advantages have to opt into it yet and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► it's very does update and guess what they don't have to wait for Adobe did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► make this work they just do it themselves with their own stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► and you just you basically is dominated you you when you get called rendered you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► just wondering if you don't get called to meet you doing so you try to separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► the logic of any kind of housecleaning to do from Jake see get called on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► you can be told it's kind of like the way when you get swept out on iOS you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► have just gets told by Katie going to sleep well he take that principle bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► it to the Mac gets told when her window when the window gets obscured so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► rendering is pointless and he gets told winning all of the news in the appt go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► away so you can you know further turn back any any housekeeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► huge win i mean and I've always known it to like you know and armed nerdy enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► that I'll be route running activity monitor just to see what's going on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► I'll be on an airplane and I'm writing an article and I have two or three tabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► open in Safari cuz they're the things I'm referencing for what I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► about and I can see that safari is taking thirty percent of my CPU and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► because I have these things open and they're just it's just running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► JavaScript or something over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► yeah I know it's killing my battery but there's like nothing i dont wanna close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► the window well so we feature which is currently I'm a little surprised that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► the surface this but you know had to you know quite this sort of usual level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► but if you click the battery icon Mavericks it will show you like do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► know that how much they charge the battery has but it'll also give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► list of the absentee using the most energy that's pretty interesting and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► you can click on it and just kill it and that's kind of weirdly nearly thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► them to do like stan is usually been trying to move away from like pointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► out new stuff you know right there or even making you think about like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► running and what is not i mean you know and every couple of years they'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► out with a new doc design and usually the first thing they do is they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► take away the indicator of what apps are running and then you guys hey hey hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► come on I gotta know what's wrong and what's not running and then I kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► kind of ok with him not having indicated there well you know what I mean by guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► I people who truly at least understand the difference between an app that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► running an app that is not yes a gang of Palace I feel that I would be the odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► man out being like I don't want to see the little died in theory I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► everybody would agree that nobody wants to know what happens actually open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► closed it should all be working right which is the eyewear has always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► exactly exactly in tractors still a Mac and it still some bullshit going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► right and the goal should be that if your app isn't running you should make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► it is too quick to launch as possible and go break back to where they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► you were the last time you are in so that the user doesn't even see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► difference maybe there's a couple of seconds of difference but you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► mountain I and Mavericks have both added a bunch of abyei's to make that allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► you to do you can save state and Queen you happen should I just come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► exactly what you were with the selection you know you can save off what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► selected so when you realize you had to get the same selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► which we define a pin in what you do lose which kinda sucks is that so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► can opt in and say that you can quickly kill my appt at any point and what will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► happen is when you switch away from a little automatically save in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► background and then discuss some kind of memory pressure or does no windows on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► the screen or if the user just loves out your Apple be killed when you love back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► in whatever when you launch the app your act is expected to be stored state which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► you can do if you recall correctly but what you lose is the under the state you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► can keep you and your steak which to me is you're breaking the illusion you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► not only a baking in the lesion on do is I think one of the best beaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► computers exactly undoing is what computers do you know what the Mac style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► of interface design chapare did you mess around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► did you fuck it out and do not a problem and removing that is it that's that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► was you know what they're probably thirty different people who came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► the exact same design for tshirt and you know but I remember like back in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► in the early nineties there is a lot of people had a short it just said I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► had one I got it but it just said come and see the little as it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► the best yeah it's good I love it yeah I mean to say that it's it's minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► breaking the illusion yeah it's it's actually like losing the end attack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► is losing something important it's true destructive behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► exactly and I think it is mostly i mean again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► to be productive you know guys like us like people that would be listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► the show would notice it and I don't think most people would notice it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► think that while they won't notice exactly what happened they will learn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► become mistrustful I did a more seamless you make the illusion the app is running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► even when it's not the more apparent he will be did the induced at just vanishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► its gonna feel random I think given to someone like me like I may not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► guess right like I'm fairly technically adept I could be running napkin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► sometimes it sometimes undue works and sometimes it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► as well it's going to seem like to me because I wasn't even aware that it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► closed out the background because I had left it open for two days let us know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► I'm coming back to this thing I remember what I was doing and now my dad this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► stupid texts and you may have figured out we may just yell at me and I'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► you what happen but it's it's an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► go he had something in mind I was going to take a second sponsored by Dan di ang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► by tight new sponsor what is doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► time tracking for people who are on your own show it's built for freelancers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► small teams and it's a product that the guys who built it these guys it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► it's it's the Time Tracker they wanted to use the building for themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► it's meant for any small teams got all the features that managers you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► type of things DAGA type of time tracking software is designed by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► managers and it's a real pain for the actual people using at work and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► took all those features out and all they did was focus on the features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► people actually have to do stuff during the day would want to use focus on hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► you put in what you spend it on the money you're gonna make a beautiful UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► at all you're actually gonna like using in your day because it just looks cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► any iPhone app is designed for Iowa seven and a pretty pretty slick Iowa 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► design in terms of and i know i spent a lot of time last few weeks talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► what to do with the new status bar and endeavour pretty cool solution to it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► can to see the screenshots you go to the AppStore and search for Dane but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► designed for Iowa 7 indefinitely looks like it so if you sign up here we go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► sign up their website is dangerous I / the talk show the ING died 02 / the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► if you use the promo code the talk show you get a ninety day free trial no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► credit card required up front that's amazing deal I mean that's like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► months thats they well past the end of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► well more than enough time to tell this is the time track of you that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► confident these guys are so you're gonna like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► the App iPhone app is in the App Store now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► brand new bill Fri 07 you can check that out just by searching for dang in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4075">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► my thanks to Dan anybody out there looking for time tracking software check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► it's really cool stuff very nicely designed and use it in class and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► for my company and said I'm actually have much use for it but man keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► track of that stuff span the as i I used to before identifiable full time I do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► lot of freelance where I guess you know had some full-time jobs in their most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► doing freelance work and at the time I was doing freelance work there were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► good time tracking ups not terrible yeah tell me the worst so you want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► exactly she then yeah I could see mean you drive across the country in juneau [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► my joke is going to be going to buy one of these are going to get out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► ok so dang designed for ya gonna switch and we're going to go along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► whatever going to turn the tables on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► Vesper I were seven ya bazi yes or no to go I S seven only yeah I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► and it was funny and back at WWDC when they first announced Iowa so I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► is literally wild Britain Dave and I were all in San Francisco for the BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► and they announced it and it showed in a day or two to think about it and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► like 20 Wednesday of that week and I had a meeting on Thursday with a rapid the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4192">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► App Store just take a sort of meet and greet you know we're happy to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► guys in the store and you know just you know get to know you type of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► you have any questions for us and I asked then when they said hey do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► have any questions I said he would you guys think about us going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► Iowa seven for our next update I was seven and they even even the guys at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► Apple really don't know them ideal way to call you know we love we love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► you're interested in it we want everybody to get on board with it and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► know we want everybody to you know to designed for it but I was seven only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► right out of the gate we don't know I don't know about that you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► know think about their do you think about it but the more we thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► it without who is our current audience our current audiences clearly people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► are a little bit more dirty right people who know read during fireball know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► there clearly gonna be a day at the leading edge of that you know what is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► 200 million people very updated 27 and we knew it was going to be like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► I I don't know how many people there are who you that's where users who still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► cleaning tile with six you know maybe for good reasons but doesn't seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► it's been a support issue for us we have had if there are if there are complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► about that I don't even know about it I think it was a no-brainer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► identity theft protection could use in supporting both six and seven is it s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► one thing as shown in 28 you know what I don't know a quota because could this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► could be second hand but didn't compare the rollout of the day the ACA website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► 2007 yeah I just saw that yesterday that fascinating as that I don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► knock against Apple crusades more that leg it's such a cultural touchstone now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► the yeah you can just compare one to the other as technology shit happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4313">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► politics is gotten so weird and not to turn us into political show but any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► without taking any partisan side even yeah but it's gotten so weird over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► last decade or two where we're certain extraordinarily shirt short catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► phrases will capture the coverage for about 48 hours and then gym and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► thing that happened this week with the rollout of the Affordable Care Act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► website was this word glitch instead of bugs you couldn't go anywhere without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► seeing you know that there were glitches quote unquote glitches and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► some people jumped on this is somehow sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► it was a disaster and it's never gonna work and other people like no it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► a sign that it's way more popular than it was expected and yes Obama as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► President Obama said something to the effect of luck even you know you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► look that's why Obama should look even iOS 7 from Apple shipped with a glitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► they fixed it moved on improved do the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► fix the glitch which is really reasonable he did ten weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► politically charged and granted but even if you think it's it's crap public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► policy even if you think it's a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► public policy was implemented to jump on the fact that the website can keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4406">TS</a>]
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01:13:39 ◼ ► problem that every website has an ejection it was found interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► that he compared it to Iowa 7 specifically right and dad dad gets back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► to me off in the weeds because I'm from Canada and we have health insurance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4433">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► just couldnt occurred avoid that day and I couldn't finish the shoving the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► when he gets assume they can go to a doctor in half and put these medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► yeah you know when the president of the united states the engine stand up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► comparing his roll out of his signature legislation of his career probably of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► yeah I mean yeah and and clearly in the big leagues at that point so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► targeting the latest seems acceptable thing to do I think that's fair to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► no matter which side of the partisan divide Iran where even if you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► car dislike the guy that everybody would agree that you know historically that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► his signature legislative accomplishment and if you go if you're right maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► think on one side you think this is why everybody's eventually everybody's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► agree the guy was a terrible present and on the other side maybe you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► is why I remembered as a guy you accomplish something that really prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► it but it's clearly you know it's the biggest thing he he's going to get past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► the biggest thing I did and then he compared it to something Apple yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► think too weird it's real it's almost petty in a way like he should be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► AboveNet but it I think it speaks to the culture the time I think that are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► tech crowd underestimates especially with iOS 7 vastly underestimated just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► how aware the general public is things like Iowa seven right because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► a lot of people who for the whole summer there was a lot of people that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► in the iOS developer circles really look I think when this thing ships people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► gonna you know people are going to go nuts and hate it they're going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► the dialogue that says oh you have an update available and you know the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► five years when they've seen that dialogue they hit ok they wait five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► minutes in their phone or iPad restarts and it looks the same as it did before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► except you know as bugs fixed and stuff and now this one time they're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► it and when they hit restart their phone or iPad is gonna look completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► different and they're gonna lose their ship because normal people stuff changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► and showed probably shouldn't have been delayed should have been to a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► friends of mine do not text illiterate it all and they really take not plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► there's no look it off but they could navigated the same do you like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► deal we we see differences way more easily than most think a lot of us even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► me when I see me included underestimated how much work I did to keep it at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► certain fundamental level from familiar yeah I agree and I didn't really realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► that until I put the phone in the hands of people really don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► about tech yeah my mom is a good example of that because my mom is more in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► of the Macan in their house then my dad and but she'll never install on Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► 10 update without calling there just waiting for me to visit and do it myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► you know even though they're relatively automated now whereas she never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► asked me she just called me after she upgraded her iPad Iowa seven and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► question and and in all day one question about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► and she said I keep hitting I keep going to the wrong side of the bar in Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► cuz the Bookmarks menu moved and said it wasn't really a complaint use just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► isn't it funny how my fingers is always goes the same size and that was it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► mean it was I couldn't believe it she didn't even called ask that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► give her Syracuse's number and talk about spatial Ottawa that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► good show John Siracusa talks to John Gruber's mother about technology would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► be attributed to solve her problems with their computer that would be pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► holy hell that would be good work out a way to get John Siracusa sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► rate by the end of the ten 10 episode series he'd be he'd be like he'd be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► Nigeria I love it would be like a limited run we can make this happen I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4733">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► think that I think that that's kind of I think a lot of all the predictions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► doom and gloom about consumer reaction I was 7 of all been overstated you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► and if you wanted to make hay out of certain things like the parallax making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► you know a few ppl motion sickness but I don't want to make like a serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► problem and yeah you know what though the way that it got reported it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► funny I was talking to somebody else in my family you know total regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► consumer person and they were very confused by it because they saw it on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► and said what it's just making that up this is stupid I don't see anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► that because they got the impression from the TV report that everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► getting sick from Iowa 77 had these 3d effects and Apple screwed up and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► making everybody ill and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► and she you know she has an iPhone and iPad and is upgrading both like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► first two days and likes and enjoys it I gotta get it when you don't get is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► it's it's people with a certain disorder I don't know if you want to call this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► did they just have a proclivity to get motion sickness from from certain 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► effects and this is triggering it for them and she was i didnt get that cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► I feel like the way you know it gets reported as a I was 7 makes you sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► right which is an ideal in video games be making people sick for right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► and I sympathize because if your video games make you sexually just know bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4839">TS</a>]
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01:20:49 ◼ ► right where any and all of a sudden your phone gets screwed that's that sucks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► know it's just turn up in the air and I know that you can only turn off some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► the effects right now there's some of the zooming ones you can't help but feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► but by that by like I was 7.1 or something like that there will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► setting in accessibility or something like that that turns off some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► unis funny subtle distinction is that whenever you talk to Mike on the app how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4875">TS</a>]
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01:21:30 ◼ ► is on the screen rather than from the center right and for some reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► triggers this motion sickness yeah we're and it's for me it's what I one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► things that makes Iowa seven so much more pleasing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► semantically because it's a diving into things this is booming out to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► screen and when you go back the screen is going into that icon yes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► there's this more of this sense of place and there's even a crossfade anacondas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► canonized yeah I think it's more than just the fact that it's not always from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► the center though I do think that it seems more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► and I think its rooms for longer a longer period of time or at least there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► are at least it seems like it does yeah the animations definitely feel a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► bit slower cuz I have also heard from readers like when it when they first saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► it in person you know like in the first day or two after it came out some daring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► fireball readers who emailed emily is there a way to speed that up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► they're like it's not that they're getting sicker anything it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► they're so probably they're all jazzed up on coffee but they're so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► intent on making it go as fast as possible that it drives them not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► they're waiting for an animation that they see is superfluous now it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► just wait for 7.1 and no shave her split second I mean if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/4965">TS</a>]
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01:37:25 ◼ ► shred the box in and out and about you but I was a fuck that in my arms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5845">TS</a>]
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01:37:35 ◼ ► even like you said even if it's just like a totally apolitical just a pope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► romance or detective thriller just like to just under something I have been me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► am NOT putting books in the garbage I am NOT which is weird be anyway back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► appoint yes kind of weird company culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► what I found striking about this bunker farewell is that he was at his best when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► he's a sort of creepy and screaming and fist pumping the air sweaty sweaty let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► face it there's sort of a even if you love even if you love the guy got it met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► the guy has a history of sweating yes that's his style what it what I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► interesting but this sort of took a bit of the staying away from that developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► developers developers in the when I watched that I just thought he was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► the hook shield literally take his mind and just whatever maybe doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► public speaking to the couple managed to get out there and Jews and this is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► this is just interpretation of excitement it had nothing to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► anything else but this was a nice just to legendary very emotional can again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► and you know what did you know the person that just came down we love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► that's weird yeah I would not be screaming at my CEO but it's felt it fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► did and and I saw that little farewell thing to me was ok this is weird this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► not my culture but difficult to culture there this is there a thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► interesting I get the verge I think maybe I don't even know how they got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► quote unquote exclusive video to a day after mounting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► but they had the video and their their description of any knows maybe ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► partly because they pulled some strings and got it from Microsoft and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► had to frame it positively but they really made it seem like it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► like everybody's gotta love this video where is a couple of readers after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► failing to it wrote to me in their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► you know I don't really even gonna take that video made me uncomfortable if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► was there I would have been all I was told I would have been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► uncomfortable I can't believe that nobody is mentioning just how kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► uncomfortable missus and I was right there with ya I don't think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► were I don't have a good thing I don't think he was passing off this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► amazing and great and isn't it I think it was more like you gotta love these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► well with this distinction of being I was uncomfortable but the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► everybody in this room seems kind of into this well and it was not sure but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► mean that's a lot of people litter kind of into this was definitely his style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► yeah yeah and went out like he you know when I like you lived I he definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► yeah I think so too and I think who knows if anything will come of it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► wasn't reported in a crackpot publication and they was Bloomberg said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► that there's a group that controls like five percent three to five percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► microsoft shares you want bill gates to step down as chairman exactly so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► believed to be at the top 20 investors which is such a weird thing to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► because that's a previous range right you know what is it like number five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► number eighteen well the big question is are they just the three who are willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► to put their names out in public right now and do it do they speak for a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► institutional investors you know normal people like us if we do you when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► out tomorrow and and login or trade accounts and you know to spend a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► hundred thousand dollars we don't give it matters of the big investors the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► institutional and pension funds hedge funds and somebody who controls even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► it's just 1 percent of your control 1 percentage talking serious money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► billion dollars then you have a say in the matter you know and how many how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► many is is this just a small group and that's it and it's just gonna float away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► or is there a serious contingent of institutional Microsoft investors who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► want you know effectively not just bomber gone but they want the board gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► including gates ok so let's just back up a bit and just is running on but let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► play this back sort of chronologically when you get stepped down like 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► type thing it was sort of gradual yeah but whatever they give us a while years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► ago might have been too long I think it was more about about 10 years ago okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► but I don't know following that stock price effectively stagnates Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► fails to get into mobile does get into consoles but doesn't really make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► shitload of money off that window starts to stagnate as tablets can wave to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► time when it was over loaded up January 2000 so we're about halfway right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► thirteen years not a little bit closer and closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► is about to come on his show just gonna be late I'm not going to rub it in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► face closer than two months away from being fourteen years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► halfway between now and you know and and well what happened pretty quickly run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► here's a quick example and who knows what would have been different if he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► stayed in Benin if you want to do state but a perfect example is XP XP is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► I think everybody my degree was the most successful version of Windows over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► at a time it came out it was popular and it remained popular but they got stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► right and you know and it was a long time before the next one came out which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► was Vista and Windows Vista did come out people didn't like it so it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► disaster and in fact bomber mentioned in the early 2002 failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► effectively they vote to business people Longhorn which had this crazy fascist in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► a whole bunch of other stuff and then this and they've had to back off a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► of that and then ship which is Canada's half assed we gotta ship something holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► shit it's been five yes six years a gay you know we now have 12 to 18 months to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► get something out the door or we just look like a total idiot right it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► more like ok none of this weird now we haven't had any of this stuff from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► Longhorn here's some invisible windows are ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► overdone blur effect that's probably similar effects in Iowa seven right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► probably I'm sure there's somebody up in Redmond who you know when the day that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► was seven was unveiled in everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► wow look at that cool blurred the guy who liked wrote the blur for me is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► do you think it was like a fist pumper facepalm I think it was like four out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► scotch this is why daddy drinks right there was like the exact same people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► like in 2007 when mr shipp they're like what the fuck are you wasting my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► and now they're like wow the background for battered stock stagnates the end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► losing well-known executives left right and center for the past couple years J [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► Allard Sinofsky what's-his-name Ray Ozzie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► yeah they bought into sort of rejuvenate the technologist side of the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6356">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► then I have to equate to use 25 years after he got it wasn't long enough ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► you to make its mark you know just recently announced to total viewers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► fit the Apple model which is weird only Apple does seemingly effortless for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► companies of that size where you know there's only one marketing division you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► know Phil Schiller it is in charge of marketing for Apple not there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► separate Mac marketing manager there's no separate iPhone marketing manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► you know there's one and now there's 100 RBIs marketing group does not fly with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► man who gets the ad it's a just right not even have to be well there may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► debate but it's a debate within one team yes it's not up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► well and maybe because they know they were always like always I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► and and at least always dating back to 1997 to say that you know that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► effectively truly got you know if they ever had if you give if you give and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► problem with Apple Institute in terms of organisation lies before Steve Jobs came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► back in 97 wasn't really that they were set up in divisions it's just that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► would they were just a mess I mean I wasn't really like Microsoft they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► separate that the Newton group was separate from app from the Mac group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► even though they were in it was part of the problem but it was really just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► that they were a mess and didn't have you know they were just disorganized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6476">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► disorganized rather than how they were realized yes yes yes that's so whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► in a couple months later mom gets the boot it looks bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► makes you wonder just how nervous and desperate they're behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► because you wouldn't do that right if you gonna give given the boot before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► doesn't you were gonna let the new guy do it right and how did he how did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► let him go you know clearly I the reorg you know I don't know how much how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► is that it's just paperwork yet how much the six months you will change your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► organization to be black and then it's actually changed and you just can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► it said it you can just cancel all the paperwork without actually reassigning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► people so bomber had been CEO for thirteen years and he had been at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6534">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► right-hand man to gates all along so we've been there since the company was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► you know 1313 fourteen people probably double digits I don't think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► know one thing I don't think Steve Ballmer was lacking in or even still is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► probably is confidence you know how much does a CEO who's been there for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► along he's been CEO for 13 yrs clearly a pretty confident guy how much does he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► have to run by the Board before he gets through what I would guess something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► like the reorg is something he has to go to the board and say here's what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► to do I don't think that he can announced a company-wide reorganization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► without going to the board first but there is some kind of weird dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► there where he went to the board presumably got the OK for it but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► same time the board must have already been thinking we want to ask this guy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► step down it seems weird that they didn't you know say let's slow down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► the reorg for a second we want to talk to you about something I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► understand there is a cancer is an area with this is good for my good side maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► maybe just did it without talking to the board I don't know but I like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► kinda makes business sense we publicly wanna shame I hate to make sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► analogies were loved him but it's to me it's like a team of trouble and coach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► announces here's our new playbook for next year's third quarter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► fourteenth season and weaved we're gonna get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► gonna sit the whole team up to fit this playbook thats new it's a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► different style of play them what you're talking about a totally different style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► gonna set the whole thing up for going to get all the players we gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► players who fit this new style of play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► and oh by the way I'm not gonna be here next to the new coach and I you come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► but we've already shuffled the team and reorganize the team yet at to me just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► very bad about you don't get to set the play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► desperately try to follow you now you don't get to set up the play and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► just walk away from the field in let's let somebody else a deal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► consequences but it seems it's backwards are you really want to pick the leader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► first and let the leaders at the organizational structure exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► you structure gonna wait my hands of this and mr Conway good luck with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► that's just crazy and even bomber in his belief is trying to remember the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► wasn't lying and revelation and she might be needed three pair guess frankly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6711">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► I thought I thought he was unusually honest about the fact that he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► he didn't think you know now would not have been the time he would have picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► that's the bit I was going to comment on heeey comes out and says that he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► leader at least halfway through the transition which even thats weird but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► the beginning she's weird anyway and now we're hearing the Bill Gates is facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► pressure to step is not accompanied it's chaos like this I can't as much as his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► spent talking about Apple I think microsoft is the most interesting story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► and textures yeah because there's more drama I mean I think there is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► salacious right I mean that in this is a technological powerhouse with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6776">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► talent that is clearly in turmoil I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► the other big towel and this is the sort of thing where it because I don't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► Microsoft is closely I never even heard of the guy before back in April of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► year Microsoft CFO Peter Klein announced his resignation as he wanted it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► literally is the explanation he wanted to spend more time with his family which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► is you know sort of PR speak for I'm not gonna take it could be anything but MGC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► was the first one I remember where I was when the bomber resignation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► announced he was like you know who's the first one to know you know a typical but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► it with it like a TV or movie reference but to know when winter is coming to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► know sort of Game of Thrones MGS it heat up his sleeve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► you know what he means yeah I know people give him a hard time about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► movie and TV references but he uses a min away where it saves a lot of words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► and you know what I like and I like you I just think he's like who knows of each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► the Great Lakes the CFO is the one who knows when bad news coming six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► nine months from now which way the wind is blowing and publicly they only talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► about what they just didn't in the last quarter and they give guidance for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► next quarter I mean I think that's right yeah of course but behind the scenes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► might have a better idea of what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► yeah and you know and and they can say all they want that there you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► worried about the post-pc effect on PC sales but I mean it's been a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► since PC sales have grown quarter quarter they're drinking and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► it's the sort of 50 to use this analogy it's the hemingway description of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► is how do you go bankrupt and that you go bankrupt two ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► slowly then quickly you know that the the pop in and windows licensing sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► could happen very quickly and it's seems like before it would get dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► bad what you would see is exactly what you've seen over the last year or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► where it gets lonely bad city thing that's what's happening Microsoft is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► it's their executive level and their most informed investors see the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► on the wall that's exactly what I think is happening I think the most informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► investors I think that the reason the reorg was made in a way that I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► was contrary to Microsoft us you know the way they've been for 20 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► following who else Apple is about that writing on the wall like we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► what else to try but to try this because it seems to be working for somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► I think with the investors what they see is the only good thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► company over the last 10 years has been the revenue they've had from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► institutions of Windows PCs and office sales on top of those PCs and Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► Service money they also add whatever else you want to file into that but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► based on people sitting at desks using Windows right i mean the client-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► getting voted by Max Gradel whatever you've written books whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► to say and the services said getting invited by Google I totally understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► that it is Microsoft's revenue and profit centers are way more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► than it used to be where you really could you say it all just Windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► I totally understand that it's more complicated than that but I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► that all the stuff that makes it more complicated than that is still sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► on top of Windows PCs and I think that there's a lot of people who say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► and I think that it's not a date necessarily think haiti existing team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7013">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► can't possibly be the ones who write this I think it's more or less but we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► given them enough time and they've they've dropped the ball enough times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► that we're going to make a change so she gets go I don't know I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► hard for me to say cuz I don't really know I really have no idea how involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► he is well I do know that he's been a big supporter of bomber right but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► always at his bank so maybe it's one of those bombers clear lead let us into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► these words and it happened on you while we're yeah it's like now we're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► for a new CEO we don't want gays to be the one to pick the next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► same thing where he's the one who left bomber stay as long as example but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► frankly I can't imagine Microsoft without either bummer gauge it seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► lose my mind and they're talking about getting it from 42 min Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► anything like a pet CCH alright silencer water right it just does not seem to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7074">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► that they need somebody from outside tech you know I know what they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► you know I'm tempted sailing jail orderly ask you something comes back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► I mean that's because those names and I know you know what I like is the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► that does all presentations for the for the surface 21 guided on stage he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► yeah but I'm sure there's mostly just thinking to stage manage anything today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► so yeah what do you think they need I wonder I wonder if there's anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► they can do to stay relevant as the type of company that we talked about on shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► like this right about blogs like you know to me the easiest out is an end to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7135">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► make investors happy and keep the stock footage to go the IBM room where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► just sort of become consulting company and there's all sorts of money to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► made the enterprise any still have you know all sorts of people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► enterprise you know and trust Microsoft products but to sort of fade fade from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► view as a consumer tech company right when his idea when's the last time IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► has done anything that you are I have taken note of my eye I can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► IBM remains one of the most successful profitable and success you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► stock is successful that profits are high the revenues high earners contains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► the last time I paid attention to IBM where is always to walk for twenty years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► yeah I would say it was probably for me last time I remember paying attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► him was when they still own the ThinkPad brand and yeah but it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7195">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► I just you know and I wasn't like I was buying ThinkPad but I always thought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► still good quality hardware right I still think in general I've seen them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► Cape Town wherever they say Obama makes good laptops that have had to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7216">TS</a>]
02:00:21 ◼ ► laptop other than a MacBook it probably had to just pick a brand but but IBM's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7221">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► been out of the game for a while but I did that sort of route of you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► of getting away from consumer technology and off this train of chasing this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► solution I can think and I can't help but think too that if they were to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► the Ford guide that that's what they're talking about he would need a Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► Word lou gerstner was to IBM yeah it was in his interest in Iraq I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► companies tanking and he fired for the first time in their history he laid off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7256">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► a bunch of people I'm not change the wrong the wrong way to go but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:07 ◼ ► enthusiasts the people who read the Virgin really like Microsoft products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7267">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► that people who read Paul throws people like you and I will not fun last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► we'd do you know the name of an IBM executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► right and you know but I could see them you know I know that Blackberry goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► the way to his chains on airliners at least you know you going down fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► at that point on the other hand though at least at this point with the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► board and leadership it certainly doesn't seem like Microsoft's current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► leadership even with bomber on the way out is thinking the net weight like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► doesn't cause if they were there is no way they would be you know trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► acquire Nokia's handset business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► it's you know Microsoft as it stands today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► wants to fight they want to they want to get ahead of Android and market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7317">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► and they want to compete get ahead of Apple terms of you know popularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► branding and the creepiest things about that bedbugs right but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► creepiest things about that bomb video ways the signage in the background like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► above this sort of the first row of seats did you notice it no I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► so tall blue and it's it's like a banner ad and it's it's Microsoft call and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► can't hold us which is weirdly defensive I don't like it we're getting picked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► boot we're not going to we have got to stop going to keep fighting to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► fighting sort of message can't hold us in places somebody's trying to hold you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► down and they're not going to succeed in its that's a weird mentally to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:13 ◼ ► funny it's it's a rival leading can't hold us I don't know somebody's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7393">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► held down in like having a fit right failure doesn't sit right with anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:24 ◼ ► maybe failure is well in some regards some of the products have done recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7404">TS</a>]
02:03:31 ◼ ► which i think that they were totally serious and put a lot of wood behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7411">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► arrows you know like surface I i know i think it is fair to describe surfaces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► failure windows I was on the show with you right after the announcer surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► things and we both like the surface RT better than the service so totally can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► you give me too and attacked but in her defense I think we both want to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► the Metro tablet isn't there something else and get reminders to us I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7438">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► think I think the biggest problem with the whole surface two things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► they've stuck with the door you know we don't understand that i dont i dont get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► it I think I would have rather have killed bedrm version version or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► kill I I would have preferred that they stick with the arm and RT version as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► product I like that better right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► outcome given the previous generation pick one of the other great I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► saying the last time even if they just took two of them through my up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► air and whichever one the glass didn't break we'll have one more pic I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► flip a coin but just put put all of your wood behind one of those hours and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► cant believe too that that I can see how they launched a year ago with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► because I wanted to keep them secret so they didn't talk to people about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► then after they came out and how much palpable confusion there was over what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► the hell the difference between them and even vaguely interested in one which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► that they didn't realize army and we really screwed this up because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► have no idea what the differences between these two things even know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► difference is actually pretty significant I can't believe they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► themselves cassini more than Windows right and they named both these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► surface even though they're very different they gave him like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► identical names and they run literally run different operating systems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:21 ◼ ► look the same I could almost forgive that of him six service metro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7521">TS</a>]
02:05:27 ◼ ► service windows I don't mean they even that's a bit confusing but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7527">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► you're describing the device in the USA is running you know maybe maybe Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► Phone maybe failures a bad word for that it's it's having trouble getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► traction but it's not zero it seems like it's at least growing a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► definitely has heat and I did and I really thought this software was total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► mass I thought the hardware was pretty interesting they did a pretty good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► at the software was so bad I really can't do the the axe the axe stink the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► software stack is pretty decent it but if you and then you swipe up to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► get into the task switcher so it moves into basically like a card like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► a web of lies covered the camera as you panning around the camera still active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► down to occurred to me it's it's live updating while you switching we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► from you know it's very serious computer science underneath and yeah I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► awful implementation of any kind of ass and in the you know there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:54 ◼ ► conceptual stuff that you know like going left to get the all messages view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7614">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► it's just shows like a universal inbox of everything but it's not really a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7618">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► it's just you've gone left and now here is all your messages to seems like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► kind it's one of those things where they're headed to this idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► Blackberry devices all about being communicator first messaging app first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► so how do you do that well from anywhere you just go after you've got this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► mix in box we can do some stuff you can't assume other stuff and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:29 ◼ ► would have come out with it two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7649">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► those three years but for this year's to have the pieces he just can't he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:39 ◼ ► couldn't do that had to stick to get into a minute they're gone now what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7659">TS</a>]
02:07:43 ◼ ► your advice for Microsoft I think Microsoft in credit I think microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7663">TS</a>]
02:07:52 ◼ ► his success story I think they've won if you look at the original mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7672">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► statement it was a PC on every desk did succeed he stayed widely succeeded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► then they didn't know what to do next I think they need to figure out what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► next I think they missed you know they told me sort of flood the PC market so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► that miss their I think they need somebody with a good vision to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:27 ◼ ► figure out what the next over the top goal is that they can try to aim for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7707">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► think you have the talent you know to to build the weird given that video the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:38 ◼ ► crazy cultish passion to get there I just think they need to know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7718">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► is I don't know I don't that is I think if they if they wanted my ten seconds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:49 ◼ ► consulting advice i would tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7729">TS</a>]
02:08:52 ◼ ► I think that they need to be focused on who they're the competitor that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7732">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► hurt them is into me it's Google not Apple not that Apple's success hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7737">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► been somewhat at their expense but that it's worth organized and they're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:05 ◼ ► gonna be out in the things that Apple's best never gonna be good to see Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7745">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► because they undercut they basically quantized operating systems they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► commoditized operating systems and their commoditized during office type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► applications with docs and stuff like that and that the you know that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:22 ◼ ► got institutions like schools that are buying based on something other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7762">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► design and quality of just how nice the stuff is they've got them using you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► get all the kids on Google Docs yeah but I disagree with you on that because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► can they do ok so you focus on Google what he can do given in with your tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► that's doesn't suit a business model you know like I don't think they need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:48 ◼ ► figuring out Google has gotten their business they need a new business you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7788">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► know what I think I think the biggest mistake Microsoft made in the last 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► years honestly and I've I think I've mentioned this before but I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:03 ◼ ► biggest mistake they made was that somewhere around 2008 or so they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7803">TS</a>]
02:10:09 ◼ ► have focused on shipping versions of Internet Explorer for Windows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7809">TS</a>]
02:10:17 ◼ ► blocked all advertising any and all advertising by the fall just to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7817">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► their off it from Google is that was the way michael c 2008 slate but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:29 ◼ ► give that and you know and I may well have found themselves back in court yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7829">TS</a>]
02:10:34 ◼ ► and you know what and in the old days when that happened then they'd financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7834">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► aid fight it and by the time even if they lost by the time they were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► matter what no matter because Google would have been dried up time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:47 ◼ ► needed to cut off advertising to Google was the thing that I think God's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7847">TS</a>]
02:10:51 ◼ ► Microsoft the most is a Google 2006 I think that almost all of this money that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7851">TS</a>]
02:11:00 ◼ ► made Google what Google is today came from people using Windows PCs and a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7860">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► you know and I think a lot of them are using most of them were using IE and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:09 ◼ ► they could have just said it couldn't they wouldn't have to come and say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7869">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► going to block Google as issues said you know as a great new feature in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► locker right its ad blocker built into its on by default it saves you know 20% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► battery life every time I don't know maybe at this point in time it is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► late I don't know how you compete it is it's just for the record I don't mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► had bloggers I don't believe I don't have to think that would have really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► cripple said Google yeah but that was the old Microsoft could you know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► cut off the air supply what was the heir to google it was ads being shown to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► users yeah I think that would have been about this I think it probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► have been the right move in there here's what happens when they let somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► growing it is you know and I do think I think a lot of people get confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7917">TS</a>]
02:12:03 ◼ ► everybody wants to pit Android against iOS and its market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7923">TS</a>]
02:12:07 ◼ ► hundred really is hurt is hurt the whole idea of a licensed operating system they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7927">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► use cell from money because now there is what's the price to get totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► professional robust modern operating system for a computing device not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► that's entirely fair microsoft said at first because i get charged for Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► but they had these crazy deals where even if you didn't ship Windows on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:37 ◼ ► PC you would pay for Windows anyway you don't you gonna get to guess it get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:43 ◼ ► jail G on the show I should you and you alone getting outbid save me in montana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7963">TS</a>]
02:12:52 ◼ ► wants to show he's the regular host I always forget you just getting other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7972">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► weeks let's wrap it up when you wear let me think Microsoft at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:23 ◼ ► commanded such power in the PC industry that it could force PC manufacturers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8003">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► give it money even if they didn't ship windows right that was right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► was the terms it effectively crippled BOS right and and that's why I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► you should see right let's make up the numbers but it was something like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► agreed to the good contract with Microsoft letting you run Dell Compaq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:52 ◼ ► the good contract says every PC you sell dollars in that it doesn't say every PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8032">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► you give Microsoft 50 bucks or if you just want a paper copy of Windows well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► that'll cost you $150 per PC and so crippling and then if you agreed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:14 ◼ ► one that only $50 but it's for every PC and me on my PC company we take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8054">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► other one cuz we only want to pay for actual windows are using we might want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:23 ◼ ► to ship some of our PCs with Linux or with B or whatever other OS or maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8063">TS</a>]
02:14:29 ◼ ► know call Apple and see if we get a patent license as a copy for Intel $300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8069">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► behind on every single Windows PC we sell which is right now our bread and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► butter on a quarterly basis and $100 per PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► you couldn't you couldn't afford that kind of thing so everybody agreed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:48 ◼ ► other one will definitely crippled BOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8088">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► and while I don't believe I was using it at the time but Linux and FreeBSD and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8092">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► all that on the desktop would not there yet you're using be I know I used a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:05 ◼ ► BSD the time they weren't there yet major desktop operating systems and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8105">TS</a>]
02:15:15 ◼ ► much it is funny to laugh at like has two years to Linux on the desktop no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8115">TS</a>]
02:15:20 ◼ ► they weren't there yet but in a lot of ways environment just was not could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8120">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► support that kind of film and because it is kind of weird sweeter deals in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► head with the manufacturer's yeah he was the example that sort approved it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:36 ◼ ► NBC actually be never quite got there in terms of having the whole software stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8136">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► there but they had enough they had enough I mean it was a real compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:45 ◼ ► they could have had a good way better than windows super 90 definitely in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8145">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► way more modern than Mac OS Mac OS and you know it certainly would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8151">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► compelling enough with Microsoft in have those deals some number of Dell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► who knows what percentage in 0345 but that's how something starts short as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:13 ◼ ► Microsoft you I think they need a vision I think we need to figure out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8173">TS</a>]
02:16:16 ◼ ► hell is going to do honestly I think that their efforts in consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8176">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► electronics mostly by the Xbox combined with this weird thing that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► really good at doing that instead of the people don't appreciate ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:36 ◼ ► disclosure you've been responsible is this your guys but they do a good job as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8196">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► isn't here as I say I said is your people wrote in and said i mispronounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► it never mispronounce it in French media it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► Xbox life is good day have a good one of the first six bucks ship $10.99 yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8213">TS</a>]
02:17:11 ◼ ► they've got a long history of integrating consumer hardware with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8231">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► back-end services and that's where the world is these days I think I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:23 ◼ ► infection with Windows is sort of led by bomber but it's kind of lead them down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8243">TS</a>]
02:17:31 ◼ ► the you know it's almost been putting him out to pasture they need to focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8251">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► things that have two attributes that a that they can be the best in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:40 ◼ ► yes be that have a bigger future ahead of them than their present and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8260">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► the problem with Windows Windows future is smaller than the present yeah windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:54 ◼ ► is not helping but anything that doesn't qualify for both of those things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8274">TS</a>]
02:17:58 ◼ ► should scratch off the list yes so maybe you know again it could be like an enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8278">TS</a>]
02:18:03 ◼ ► of my enemy is my friend where if they're focused on Google as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8283">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► primary enemy you know in terms of you know integrated services and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:14 ◼ ► that and companies that just run the back end stuff on Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8294">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► working with apple or at least 90 min maybe even working with Apple but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► working with just assume that there's going to be institutions that have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► awful lot of iPhone users but making backend services that work great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:29 ◼ ► iPhone users there's money that I still don't think that there what will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8309">TS</a>]
02:18:35 ◼ ► in any way I don't think so either but I feel like buying Nokia confuses that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8315">TS</a>]
02:18:44 ◼ ► don't know no more than like Apple's iPhones or office and Microsoft's Nokia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8324">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► phones I would say this I think that they should set themselves up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► think very near future they should set themselves up for how can a profit in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8335">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► world where awful lot of people at the high end of the market whether their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:05 ◼ ► consumers or whether their enterprise users who are using iPhones and iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8345">TS</a>]
02:19:10 ◼ ► are so also using Microsoft products right don't set them up the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8350">TS</a>]
02:19:16 ◼ ► think that bomber might have blended into his world where they somehow want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8356">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► to stop the iPhone and iPad and defeat them you know they almost need like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:26 ◼ ► Steve Jobs moment where you know 90710 Gate on-screen macro and said look we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8366">TS</a>]
02:19:31 ◼ ► have to get past the idea that Microsoft has to lose for Apple to win but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8371">TS</a>]
02:19:35 ◼ ► Microsoft needs the exact opposite to get past the idea that Apple needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8375">TS</a>]
02:19:39 ◼ ► lose from Microsoft exactly well I don't I don't know you you seem fixated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8379">TS</a>]
02:19:45 ◼ ► this idea that Microsoft Certified apple and I'm not sure that that's why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8385">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► they making things like the surface and I don't think is to fight Microsoft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► i think is to fight apple pie I think it's and then you used showed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8397">TS</a>]
02:20:03 ◼ ► yourself where Apple makes more money like more revenue despite signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8403">TS</a>]
02:20:10 ◼ ► hardware then Microsoft and Google dude spelling like signs software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8410">TS</a>]
02:20:15 ◼ ► I think Blair higher marks which is the remarkable thing which is weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8415">TS</a>]
02:20:20 ◼ ► crazy and I think I don't think Microsoft necessarily want to fuel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8420">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► phone that will destroy the iPhone I think they want a portion of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:29 ◼ ► well I don't think I don't know that they can get that kind of need to plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxOPbW0/8429">TS</a>]
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