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00:00:38 ◼ ► isn't I wanna know I wanna know when that's happening on that is working the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/38">TS</a>]
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00:00:55 ◼ ► a rehab stint working the concession stands a beard guy guy a ride he said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/55">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► should actually do that endeared him to fans do you have a did is there like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/68">TS</a>]
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00:01:24 ◼ ► Yankee Stadium you know hopefully I'd like to go twice a year at least so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/84">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► this year is there is there a signature guy like a peanut guy we had a penis guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/89">TS</a>]
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00:02:02 ◼ ► season ticket holder like an old guy like a drum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/122">TS</a>]
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00:02:39 ◼ ► went behind my head kinda through gonna throw you know music I guess I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/159">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► I did what I did to deserve that but and I you know I managed to reach behind my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/166">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► head and grabbed the bag but it but it flew open and the peanuts went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/172">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► everywhere and there were some people in front of me to come over from building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/177">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► or something but weren't very happy about that didn't did not understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► that this was that this was a fan favorite thing to do in the penis and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/185">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► he turned his back and stuff like that yes yeah yeah i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► yeah I do realize that his fam so you've actually gotten peanuts from the guy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► have yeah I was bill on time and I don't think he's I don't think he's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► anymore but I'm not positive yeah that's the joy going to the baseball game I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/207">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► go to a game this week though I went to join us and I and jonathan Jones his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/218">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► best friend and his dad we went to see the Phillies had a good time so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/223">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► game was a very weird game the Phillies lost to the Nationals for 21 and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/229">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► single run in the game was a solo home run kind of a weird game and Cliff Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/236">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► who was pitching for the Phillies and I we've already lost the entire audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► Cliff Lee pitched for the Phillies they lost 41 he gave up four solo home runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/247">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► but he actually pits a phenomenal game he he had to give the exact numbers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/254">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► but something like he finished the game with seventy strikes and 12 balls he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/262">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► like the highest strike the ball ratio since the year 2000 like in every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/268">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► major league game in the last 13 years he just had like the highest strike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► ball ratio I I honestly think he might have thrown for bad pitches and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► single one of them was hit four home and that was the day was bizarre game he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► like on fire and yet the Phillies was kind of weird how the Phillies doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/287">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► this year not so good there like nine games under 500 I don't know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/293">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► did last night so maybe there would really weak division did nationally East [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/298">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► I think terrible there's no excuse for not winning a division of the Mariners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/304">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► so it's so painful I am I really don't watch the games that much anymore she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/310">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► can't bear to but I'm at a party game happens beyond what I used to do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/319">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► Philly when I was in college in the nineties when the Phillies after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► Phillies had a great team in 93 and 94 is this strike and like 95 96 we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/331">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► just check the schedule and look for when Kurt showing his pit now we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/339">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► did look look for home games were Curt Schilling was gonna pitch and just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► you know then we'd circle and then we go see him on Curt Schilling days cause I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► Curt Schilling days the Phillies are one of the best teams in baseball and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/352">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► other guys you know that's where the Mariners alike with ya feelin so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/357">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► yeah so is Rickey Henderson is he played he played in the money went down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/363">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► cards apparently but downplayed the minors for a while after he finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/373">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► with the A's sorry I was always a big Rickey Henderson ice cream he's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/381">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► fun he's he's one of those guys who the rare guy who talks about himself in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/385">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► third person right never use first-person pronoun it's always tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/391">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► and yet somehow you love him for it and you don't think wow what a douche you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/396">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► think you know what the Yankees to the Yankees have great tradition while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/402">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► other teams don't i guess its cuz they don't have been don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► tradition Yankees have all old-timers day every year they did that a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► weeks ago so they invite you know a whole bunch of you know all-time yankees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► to come and they play a game before the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► eleven o'clock you know you know in some of the guys are only out for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/424">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► years and you watch him and you think he looks like he could still play he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/428">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► like a ball out to the wall it went out and Ricky was there this year Ricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/434">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► plane and did of course to the snatch catch in the crowd went right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/439">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► if it weren't Rickey Henderson you signed outfielder do its gnatcatcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► what an asshole but I think well of course he's gonna do that you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/452">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► make a regular catch real news this week I guess the biggest news is got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/458">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► e-book price-fixing case right now would be it so i guess i guess im not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/465">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► surprised that I lost it didn't seem good you know and I know it sounds funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► it seems like it too would think this type of case is it is not like what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/480">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► think of when you think of a court case because there's no jury it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► before a judge and it's supposed to be this way they gave seen a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/487">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► say that this was a controversial cuz this judged coat is it colder coats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► coats so I know its current coach she said before the trial started that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/496">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► found the DOJ is case against Apple compelling you know and rain in LA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/503">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► people like wall how can she be the judge of she's already before the trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► said that but apparently in this type of case so much of the evidence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► presented beforehand that that's it's actually perfectly acceptable there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► that's that's no reason for Apple to to complain they might have other you no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/518">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► reason to complain but not that yeah we just think that they go into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/523">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► things and that their case and then the judge said well alright but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/529">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► how it works well that's how a jury case though works in case the jerry is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► supposed not to the judge right the jury is supposed to start with a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► blank slate as to the facts and only become you know only the facts presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► in quarters posed to be tendered but apparently when it's dry before judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► doesn't work that way so I guess I'm not surprised because you know it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/551">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► like it was like a courtesy of you guys are screwed by them but they going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/557">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► appeal Apple seems adamant about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/562">TS</a>]
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00:09:32 ◼ ► mean you and I have talked about this many times how Apple makes Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► incorporated makes people crazy and now that this is out there some certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/575">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► people who like Apple somethin somethin guilty price-fixing and it's there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/582">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► the worst company in the world and i really think no matter what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► thoughts are on Apple I really do think that it's the cases a lot more subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/591">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► than that and it certainly is not the case that Apple in any way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/596">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► fix things so as they dominate the e-book industry because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/603">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► dominate the book industry they're not even the leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► I guess their second Amazon but it's a distant second ninety percent something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/611">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► like that yeah it's crazy I mean there might even with iBooks being like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/619">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► think a relative success I think you could still say that can go in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/625">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► Kindle Store is a monopoly on e-books so it's very strange that the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/632">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► enables you know sort of made this case all along like isn't it strange that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/638">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► company that doesn't have a monopoly is the company that the DOJ days is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/644">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► pursuing for unduly influence in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/649">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Senegal sénégal take on that would maybe be related to an Apple was brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/655">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► before congress few months ago was like may end and at the time it was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/661">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► it was noted that they don't really spend that much on lobbying compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► a lot of other companies in particular Amazon is one of them an amazon has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/672">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► spent a lot of lobbying because of the whole sales tax that's been a real big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/677">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► concern from them and they spend time trying to work that issue to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► make that think about you know so that it would work well for them and but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/688">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► know if you were so if one were cynical one would say that going could say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/694">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► greasing the wheels of politics maybe they wouldn't be in the position of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► you know that there's somebody tweeted that to me today and I tweeted back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/704">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► them that I didn't think so that was congress in this is Department of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/709">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► Justice's executive branch the judges I you know judicial branch and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► am NOT saying the judges are completely apolitical but once you're appointed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/719">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► federal judge you don't have to keep getting reelected so there's no there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/724">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► not as much money shouldn't be employed I don't think there's any kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► judge but the case was pursued at all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/734">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► the justice department is bombers justice and I don't even think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► secret I think that the fact that that it was Amazon that brought you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/743">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► can't it's like Amazon can file a suit against Apple like this but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/749">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► Amazon that went to the DOJ and said hey guys should go after these guys there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/755">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► Sherman Act yeah I know but I don't think it's even a secret that the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/761">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► you know petitioned the Department of Justice to pursue a bonus regard our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/767">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► good friend out of banks at tidbits had I think I'd like to it yesterday I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/773">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► he had an excellent overview like you read the judge's ruling I did read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/779">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► whole room I read a lot of it though and it was it was actually I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/785">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► fantastic clear in terms of just not being like legalese or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/788">TS</a>]
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00:13:19 ◼ ► and you know which bits of the evidence she found it interesting and compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/799">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► and Adam you know road I think a good summary of that yeah yeah I was rushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/803">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► to finish it before we go so what's your take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/810">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► well it's always been kind of a weird thing he does seem you know first blush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/814">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► it seems like what why are they going after Apple instead of going after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► Amazon but at the same time the things that they went after them for it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/823">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► so much the agency model as it was the things that they did on top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► agency model in order to try and make sure so they did they wanted to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/835">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► to the agency model but they also want to make sure they could still sell books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► at the same price that Ms Huntsville books for so they would get most favored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/842">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► nation status in order to be able to price things lower to match Amazon's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► braces and then there was the other thing it was but there was a two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/853">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► that were not so much related to the agency model is just more specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/857">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► setting the prices was the other one was at the tears yes the tears that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/862">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► setting specific pricing tiers right that you know that Apple I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/871">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► know this all sort of makes intuitive sense to but the ebook guys wanted much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/879">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► higher prices like has paid you know our or hardcover books the publishers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/888">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► publishes the publishers you know had been selling bestsellers like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/894">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► Stephen King comes out with a new book or fifty shades of grey comes out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/900">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► new book and that that's going to be like you know he's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► bestseller and they're like twenty-five thirty bucks hardcover but they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/908">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► them to the booksellers at like 15 16 bucks with those $30 suggested price in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/915">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► the add up to the booksellers to price it somewhere between that suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/921">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► price and whatever the hotel costes but you know best sellers are generally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► hardcover in the twenties and they've always managed the book market sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► like and this is obviously even predates home video but it's sort of like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/936">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► movies were first movies going the theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► and are only in the theater and it's like 10 bucks a ticket to go see it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► to make a lot of money that way and then they weighed in in like you know four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/947">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► months later whatever the the home video thing comes out and then you can buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► DVD and blu-ray or buy it on iTunes or whatever and then three months later six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/956">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► months after that then maybe they'll put it on HBO HBO to train in two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/965">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► later than some stupid commercial channel these tears rolling down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/970">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► book market has always been first the hardcover and then some number of months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► later than they come out with a nice paperback version of it and it's cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► even though it's the exact same book just you know and probably way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/985">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► cheaper than the difference in the actual materials between hardcover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► paperback books that that the whole concept of ebooks sort of distress that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/994">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► there's there's no you can't make like a good version and a better version like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► paperback hardcover there's just the book ratner may be nice nice bounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► terrible you can get a comic sans version shouldn't even mention that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► seventies somebody out there and you know like all of like you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► music industry before it they want to put the genie back in the head and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► back to the days when they could sell the new Stephen King book for $29.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► instead of 999 and I think a poor based on you know I'm looking at the testimony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► Apple went to these guys and said look you know you guys gotta get realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► the ebook you know fifteen bucks is kinda high for any you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► should be like your target for like hype like a bestseller 15 bucks I trust us we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► know what people are willing to spend online transaction you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► 15 bucks is really what you should be you know looking at 12 and 11 for older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► books or something like that and yeah but it looks like that that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► hearing strategy I guess they got you know it's not just like a suggestion it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► was sort of like a rule from Apple yeah definitely counted against yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► when you take that and you take it to all the major publishers and say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► ok that sounds like you know what you traditionally think of as well and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► there's also the collusion because they had the phone records and showed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► you know prior to 80 QS like whirlwind tour of the new york publishers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► that these publishers had made very few calls between each other and then as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► soon as you hit town there's a whole bunch of calls from simon schuster doe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► Random House Random House to whoever else suggesting that they were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► all sort of the other thing is I I don't know how this could have happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► without saying without Apple saying you guys should if your gonna switch to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► agency model which is really effectively it's not that complicated it's the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► Store model where you set as the seller you the publisher so you don't set a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► wholesale price you set the resale the retail price and we take 30% and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► you set a price customer pays it and will give youth seventy percent of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► that's another way of thinking about it is that Apple went to these publishers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► and said we we want to sell e-books exactly like we sell apps you set a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► price will give you 70 percent and will will handle all the distribution I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► see how they could have done it without getting them all on board right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► and I guess that's the other thing I'm can still confused about is what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► could I have done differently to not be guilty of price fixing in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► wouldn't have been enough for them not to get the MFN clause the whatever if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► you're selling it at a lower price somewhere else we get to match the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► is if they wouldn't have had that clause with that have been enough that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► have been enough I mean I would think that Amazon would have had less of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► objection and would have been less likely to take you know go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► justice department and say go after these guys I don't because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► really because I think that's what Amazon really wanted to be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► though is they want to do they want to have these loss leaders of the could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► sell just to get people to come to this site right because with the agency model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► you can't sell at a loss because it's you don't you know there's no there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► no wholesale retail difference it the seller and the creator Pixar retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► price and you just give him seventy percent of it there is no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► undercut the price and apple an apple never would have been able to sell those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► books for that price because the publishers wouldn't have set them lol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► raining on Arizona chugged along happily as it as it had been and I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► about this is my guest and because they would steal still some books at $9.99 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► guess maybe the other way would be that would have made Amazon happy and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► help but think would have made this a non-issue from the Department of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► Justice's angle is ok you call it the agency model and let's say you know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► Holt comes out with a new novel published by random house and Random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► House wanted to sell for $14.99 Amazon can still sell it for $9.99 and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► give you seventy percent of $14.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► you know like it's the fact that the contract for these publishers in the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► agency model you know forbids the retailer from changing the price you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► the price you said it has to be I guess the fundamental issue in the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► is the fact that Amazon is right is such a believably different company than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► anybody would have ever expected to exist they don't pursue profits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► their shareholders don't don't hold their own hair dont care there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► and and I'm not even saying that doesn't make sense that there isn't a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► sense to it because look at what they've done to the physical book industry right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► they've they've not quite destroyed it but almost destroyed in borders is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► Barnes and Noble is in trouble and it's the fact that this whole the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► traditional wholesale retail pricing from the publisher publishers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► perspective was built on alright we'll set a wholesale price of fifteen bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► for the book will put a thing on the cover that says retail $30 and we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► assume that everybody we ship it to you know from booksellers to wal-mart's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► whoever is gonna sell it at a retail price in between 15 and 30 dollars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► know probably closer to 30 if they want to sell it closer to 15 go nuts but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► know it's going to be about 15 because if it was under 15 it's unsustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► because it's a loss right and nobody can go forever selling books so nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► everything except Amazon figured out a way to do that by selling enough other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► stuff for profits to break even and so you know forever they've they've sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1432">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► books at a loss just so that they can dominate the industry and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► anybody ever anticipated that a company would existed for how long as Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► been telling box probably about close to twenty years you know for fifteen 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► would continuously so however ebook at a loss to Louisville and I they just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► anticipated that and then I think taking that same business model te books where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► Amazon didn't have to destroy the existing infrastructure of physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► booksellers borders Barnes and Nobles you know the the smaller ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► inside your malls targets in wal-marts and everywhere else for you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► traditionally buy books they didn't have to destroy that because the e-book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► market was brand new and Amazon came right out of the gate and and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► established themselves as the leader ever being a pilot of the time thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► of great books will be able to pay a lot less for books cuz it's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► paying basically no I don't know about that then maybe I maybe an inflation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► I mean paperbacks 478 bugs I just as I thought we'd get ebooks for like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► dollars because there is no printing costs they just sent you the MBTA you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► would like to see author's stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► well I also assume that the authors weren't really getting all the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► anyway and I didn't care of Random House start keep sending the same amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► the Opera just squeeze out random house I do think and I think that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► about this ebook case for it it's it's more complicated than then I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► typical case because there's a bunch of interested parties clearly there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► Amazon and Apple and Amazon and Apple are both fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► what they're both very very successful companies enabling particular doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► need ebooks they could just get out of the e-book business and it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► rounding error in their finances you know people would probably still read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► just as many books on their iPads which dentist do it all on Kindle app probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► wouldn't decrease the actual reading of the box on iPad there's the publishers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► there's authors and then of course there's consumers the readers and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► what I see on Twitter and in my email from people who send me feedback on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► coverage of the case which hasn't been extensive i mean but you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► there's there's definitely a strong contingent of the consumer side probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► people listening to the show right now but definitely people who read my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► whose take on it is is as simple as lower prices are better for consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► period and so you know amazon selling all ebooks are trying to sell all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► them at the most $9.99 was great for readers and Apple's entry into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► market breaking that and raising a lot of e-book prices to $15 you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► an average that's now somewhere between ten and fifteen dollars is you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► and of itself bad you know the market is now in worse shape than it was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► and so it's good that the department of justice when after Apple because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► a bad thing you know there's a certain logic to that argument but i'd i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► short I I think it shortsighted because I don't think it's I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► the Amazon dominating the e-book market was gonna be good for consumers in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► long term right I don't and you see it there was a near Times article last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► month about how amazon has started now finally raising prices on physical books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► after years and years of always being the lowest you know price now the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► dominated so strongly and they've driven so many other competitors out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► business now they're starting to raise prices and I think that's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► certainly what they would have done or might even still do with the e-book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► market sunday is grow dominated so strongly that they can eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1716">TS</a>]
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00:28:45 ◼ ► we're gonna keep selling books like I think that their long-term plan was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► the short term keep I need wholesale ebooks at 15:14 15 bucks element $9.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► at a loss but then eventually go to the publishers and say you know we're sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► of selling these things that allows we're going to keep sending them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1739">TS</a>]
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00:29:08 ◼ ► it and take it or leave it and if they're selling ninety percent of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► the books they might have to take that I think that's the future that publishers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► feared and I don't think that there's any reason to think that that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1756">TS</a>]
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00:29:35 ◼ ► they the individually published books for Apple got in there was there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► flipped rate newsday takes her before Apple launched the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1791">TS</a>]
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00:29:59 ◼ ► remember what I missing something but it was something I'm assuming that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► individually published book I think it was you could because you could publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► a book as an app on the App Store came out but now basically taking 70 percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► and an apple came out and they had to flip it was only taking 30 percent so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1822">TS</a>]
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00:30:41 ◼ ► than ever that that always selling things deeply isn't necessarily the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1841">TS</a>]
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00:30:54 ◼ ► think that there's a certain fundamental truth to it that it's it is ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1854">TS</a>]
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00:31:13 ◼ ► something's gotta give you know it's unsustainable and it's all you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1873">TS</a>]
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00:31:26 ◼ ► there's no selling at a loss involved yeah I guess I wondered what sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► means though if it had been doing it for 15 years that's a fairly long horizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1892">TS</a>]
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00:32:07 ◼ ► it's just sort of the it's the way that pricing is part of your branding right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► here prices party for any product is sort of part of the brand and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► the publishers were concerned about the $9.99 e-book pricing because they felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1938">TS</a>]
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00:32:46 ◼ ► the country and ship these books everywhere they you should expect to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► a lot less maybe but the publishers didn't like it and realized I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► correctly I think that the longer Amazon went selling bestsellers like brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► books for $9.99 the more strongly entrenched in consumers minds it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► be that that's what books should cause ebooks should cost values the product is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► almost like a control issue that they've lost they lost control over the pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► of their own product which i think is frustrating and maybe they're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► maybe they're wrong about expecting to get those higher prices but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► think that they were wrong to think that they should be the ones who get the pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2004">TS</a>]
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00:34:04 ◼ ► now in the past publishing your own ebooks is very complicated a technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2044">TS</a>]
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00:34:34 ◼ ► publishers have all sorts of different climates well here's the thing tableau [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2074">TS</a>]
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00:36:09 ◼ ► coats and say hey could do this week because I have sponsors in e-book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► Publishing is I guess going to jail house works again that's where they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► a work-release program he seems like a guy who could handle himself in jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► yeah it does he's doomed trends so you know ya him and Bob Mansfield would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► and just run the place five men already have no doubt man forced out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► wouldn't trade my cigarettes in trouble now I have to pay a bit to pay back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► people who bought you know about that too I guess that you know first Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► is said there you know who knows if they're going to follow but they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► they're going to appeal and I guess if they do then has to come first let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► presume that either they don't appeal or they appealing lose then it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► separate hearing to establish damages and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► apples can have to pay some number of million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► where does the money go though I don't know does did the government has taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► or is it somehow reno yeah I think you'd end up well I know it's not a class suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► I don't see how they could possibly return the money to consumers I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► they pay the fine to the government the government keeps it right Obama said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2280">TS</a>]
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00:38:17 ◼ ► the people who made it through the sports references I guess that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► yeah I guess I mean that's what's so well Microsoft there she was different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► they basically had to break up their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► fine and that was a bigger and more complicated and wider reaching case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► because again that was that was about the fundamentals of the company I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► about Windows and Office I mean it was about everything that Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► Microsoft case was truly about everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► fundamental to the company whereas like I said you know if the ruling were i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► mean i dont this isn't even on the table but if the ruling where Apple is forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► to leave the e-book market iBookstore shutdown that would I i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► almost no effect on Apple whatsoever I mean maybe that's overstating it a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► but you know I think would be embarrassing certainly but certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► gives its early gains Amazon will leverage yeah but the routine which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► ultimately is bad for consumers but anyway that's not what's happening but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► the other thing though is that it's not gonna put the genie back in the bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► and switch the market back to the way it was before wholesale retail like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► agency models still stands between even with publishers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► and Amazon you know I got a bunch of the publishers are guess all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► publishers rather than stand without balloon fight the case all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► publishers settled with the DOJ you know a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► months ago and I guess just paid fines but they didn't really have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► the way they do business so is the next phase of the trial was supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► damages but you know i think thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► judges is going to pick some number of you know fifty million dollars an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► pays fine and you know all things gets forgotten but I i mean it I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► that from you know henceforth books are sold on the agency both both an iBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► store in George Street seems like you know the people who were hurt the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2435">TS</a>]
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00:40:56 ◼ ► tactics were illegal you know are found to be illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► you know that that the way that Apple to all of them and said hey everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► is on board we want you on board to that's what he let me just like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► before the agency model itself there's nothing illegal about it i mean nobody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► complaining or saying that the app stores in any way you know price fixing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► it was the collusion between the publishers to all do this it ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► Apple as the coordinator of that maybe facilitator is the better word because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2483">TS</a>]
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00:42:01 ◼ ► there's anything else on ebook thing we should maybe we talked about the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2521">TS</a>]
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00:42:39 ◼ ► suing Apple for millions because he couldn't be bothered to figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/2559">TS</a>]
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00:50:51 ◼ ► the food bags anyway I also like the day just call it poop and you have her over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3051">TS</a>]
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00:52:17 ◼ ► the small and dirty cup teacup that's the one where like that shakes all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3137">TS</a>]
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00:52:34 ◼ ► probably does not fit in a purse no person fit in anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► she gonna car he's already doesn't like he's not crazy about the car but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3164">TS</a>]
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00:53:11 ◼ ► out the window just not for it just any even if the window isn't even open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3191">TS</a>]
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00:53:20 ◼ ► window fell out the window down the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3200">TS</a>]
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00:53:32 ◼ ► driving she's a small west highland terrier and and he just like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► driving along and he was like hanging on at least she's hanging there by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3217">TS</a>]
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00:54:31 ◼ ► that but looked the curly hair but physically looked a lot like a pool was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► closed but he is likely to take him a lot of places to come to shopping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3278">TS</a>]
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00:54:48 ◼ ► car he got a car couple times a week when we took him to the vet he knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3288">TS</a>]
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00:56:19 ◼ ► the flight many of the people who did have some luck on the plane actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► crashed it was a crash there was fire the tail ripped off the plane and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► like three hundred and three people on the plane only two people died which to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3390">TS</a>]
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00:57:01 ◼ ► of that and some people who had to go to the hospital for varying degrees of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3421">TS</a>]
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00:57:33 ◼ ► just you know I forget how far away he was from from the airport but not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► far you know had a good view of the runways was there with his family on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3457">TS</a>]
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00:57:45 ◼ ► had his camera you know right there and saw the plane the whole thing it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3465">TS</a>]
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00:57:59 ◼ ► plane was coming in way too soon and was gonna hit the water before the pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► realized it and tried to pull up but it was too late to pull out but that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► the plane hit tail first pilot had the nose runny nose pointing up to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► get back up in the air but it was too late and so it it tell first in the tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► broke off whole plane hit the ground and then bounced up in the air and then came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► back down and skidded to a halt but I guess when it bounced a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► went up in it there had some people are but there were also a couple hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► some people were like a hundred and sixty people who walked away unscathed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► right on Twitter it's amazing the sky David I make pronounces your name wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► you see you when David Eun you know and it seemed to work for Samsung was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► the first guy that the picture he posted on Twitter that I don't know just yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► just crash-landed I just crash landed at SFO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► tell ripped off its a path link yeah most like the picture everyone seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► most everyone I work for Samsung think so but he is Korean maybe he does but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► the second reply to rumors from a friend of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► frequent guest dan Frommer who's to say holy shit glad you're okay but it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► know he took the picture like I don't know maybe fifty feet after he got out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► of the airplane but he's fine but here's the thing that you follow the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► his treats then and you see that he didn't leave SFO for like another seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► hours and that this is the part I wanted to bring up I feel like if I'm on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► plane crashes and I'm lucky enough that I am ok well I just wanna go six or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► seven hours let me get my walked off let me just going to go have dinner right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► yeah I assume they they they want to interview him I can you probably know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► like any accident you want to make sure I mean maybe have somebody checking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► of a meeting to go to a doctor but I can do it I feel alright you know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► absurd that I just feel I am I saying expected immediately go i mean clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► and pick up here but I would you know I feel like an hour at the most I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► like you know take my name down sure that you are having to fight you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► list you know put mark me down as being OK and you know and I know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► there would be paperwork I guess but it seems like six or seven hours of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► paperwork is asking a lot airport everything takes longer to reply I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3654">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► I would be ok you probably have to fill out some certainly can't even imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► as all other luggage is probably the burned after that well in the luggage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► goes on the bottom right so you have to presume that that just got destroyed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► the friction and that's the plan is it didn't go on the wheels it to slit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► would I would guess that luggage that was underneath was pretty much toast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► you probably stuck in a while back but maybe the overhead bags the stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► put over your seat might have been right now and I guess that's the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► too though I would want I would want it you know once you get the fire out can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► get in there and get my over head back that asking too much of my name is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► know you're the ones who crashed the fuck an airplane to let me get my bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► and let me get on you know get on with my trip but you probably thought of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► have you ever thought about this I mean I think about it every time it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► the FB fly over the water and then you see a bunch of rocks and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► the there's the runway right yeah and everyone you know every time I find I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► think wow it's kind of amazing that they pull this off all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► think like every once in a while someone would just guess so I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► does seem you know again now I'm not making light of it seems it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► it was pilot error to see you know it doesn't seem like yeah that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► that's what that's what I guess it's the sort of thing they weren't going fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► enough to go on like a hundred and thirty heard and it made it clear that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► CTEK there's there's a lot more land in front of the it still raised sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3773">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► plateau to fly over a bunch of others wrote in it raised in a climbs up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► they're still before you see the actual runway I think there's a lot more dirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► short you probably just get on it seems to have really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► runways because I don't really even recall seeing the beginning or end of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► runway it seems like we're already landing in the middle of it and already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► you know taking off always in the middle of it I i dont maybe I'm wrong but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► think we have a very long runways the one airport I've been to that I am NOT I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► have had you on we talked about your uncomfortable yes like anxiety I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► I'm not nervous flyer said that before but the one airport into that have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► say made me a little nervous is Wellington New Zealand yeah unbelievably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► short runway at the runways about 30 feet long commercial airliners and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► don't know that when you're landing like the first time you go and I'm not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► know I don't like stare out the window while we're planning on using it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► but we took a high tech web stock and went to the mountain that looks at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► can look right down over the airport and its like shockingly short runway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► that made me a little nervous about this taken off the next time really seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► like you got it back up to the last inch and in really gunned it and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► don't take off like the plane doesn't take off until he gets to the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► runway seems like like a white you get like one shot my brother landed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► aircraft carrier once I'm that crazy that when you think about it he says he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► does military military expert at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► and occasional in the past is gone on to these ships to do talks officers so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► yeah so he stopping his he'd you you basically just get use to a stop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► only way it works is with those like bungee cords right yeah you gonna hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► tell her both to land and there's like something I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► something like a slingshot yeah yeah but the distal get the plane to stop it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► almost like flying into a net right here is the other part about this that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► this would make me very very nervous have to say even as it generally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► nervous fires the fact and I think about it makes intuitive sense cuz they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► investigate the hell out of these things to fight you know they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► investigate every single detail of the plane is that that the plane I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► know if it is as we speak but as of yesterday or the day before was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► there on the runway at SFO the burned-out hulk of the crash plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► because you know the FAA investigators were still going over it it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► crime scene almost like you can't can't move in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► yeah and so like you know there's all sorts of tweets from people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► freaked out because they're like to their plane is taxiing around to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► off and it's going around crashed airplane like I have to admit that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► would that's really freaky that's a disturbing ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► a flat at Tokyo and Simon and we got held up for just a few minutes and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► said they came out and said we're gonna be here for just a minute while they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► clear some debris off the runway and I look out the window and I see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► chips these days in jumpsuits with hardhats on Dragon a big piece of sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► metal and apparently on takeoff the plane in front of us just like dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► piece just fell off and then they turned around and came back with us so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► the first thing I saw before the 11 hours flight so my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► amy is like you nervous fire very nervous and she was when this happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► plane crash happened she was very keenly following the breaking news but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► also like you like she was a following a breaking news but like not like looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► at the pictures look at the pictures 1 watch the video but keenly observed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► this mid makes her a flight anxiety like now that there's been a crash like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► fact that like I said what is great because this is like the first it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► like four and a half years since there is like the longest stretch in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► history of the united states without a commercial air for airlines yeah which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► really is amazing right and only two people died in like the you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► almost dramatically so doesn't reassure you and she was like knows a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► reassuring than it was when I had years when it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah I mean for me it's kind of a six and one half because it's in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► because my face my fears just like the whole thing goes so it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► well you know sometimes you have an accident and that doesn't happen but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► the same time enough for you like it almost like a like a wily coyote type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► thing or maybe like the only reason that these planes can fly is that we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► they can play and eventually the laws of physics are gonna catch up in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► of a flight the laws of physics are going to say hey a gigantic bucked hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► yeah exactly as always when which is always when the cartoon character falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► out of the sky is when they looked down and noticed that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► hundred ton tube of aluminum can't fly yeah yeah it's really adds makes any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► sense in the fight against my fear is mid-flight my fear is always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► turbulence I know which is really usually not the problem it's always it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► and particularly landing might actually be using I took a flying lesson just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► try to help myself and the guys around a little plane for a while and he let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► fly in flying and flying through the air as through the air was nothing nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► up there i mean you know you're just flying through the area just got to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► it level and you fly landing that the hard part and and even by taking office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► just going up it's easier to go up to bring it down without smashing into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► ground flying helicopters is apparently difficult that's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► yeah but flying an airplane is parent jetpacks jetpacks earlier I did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► that they did these guys had won a challenge to create a human-powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► helicopter you know I saw a tweet about it but didn't follow it what was it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► saw it didn't look at it closely but I thought that was pretty cool sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► kind of thing that first dreamed of seeing that human powered helicopter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► finally take Sikorsky prize yeah like imagine this from the photo in the North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► an enormous device it's big it's like the way the wings are like the size of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► you get to be a bit to park these things it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► baseball and and flying yeah I think that's it I think I don't think I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► any more really uncomfortable topics if you want to do that's what we're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwjFjFM/4316">TS</a>]