00:00:00 ◼ ► iOS 7 I'm still am still digesting it I i still cant i cant figure it out I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/0">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► that I like and I last week's episode with Adam Lee Sakura lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/7">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► observed that we criticized a lot it was we spent like the whole hour saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/12">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► we don't like that I was seven people like one out now I don't like no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/17">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► not true you know it's just that there is much when you get to the details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/22">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► it there is much to criticize right you can like it as a basic idea and dislikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/27">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► yeah the the implementation is a very rough spots and that I feel are rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/37">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► and there are some things that I don't like it at first blush but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/45">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► really I don't think criticism something that you use for a week or two that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/51">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► the criticism that year and a half to three months that's me is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/57">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► i very few people have actually used Iowa so the vehicle BBC right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/65">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► a very small so people who can provide feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/73">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► there's obvious they're obviously a much wider people going into since I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/78">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► coming back to is why I wanted you on the show this week I keep coming back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/88">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► your observation which was like a median i mean it was like day of the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► it like it's the equivalent of aqua and Mac OS 10 and and our good friend jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/97">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► boats had a funny post yesterday on his very nice website where he called it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► yesterday where the hell is he was quoting maybe it was earlier known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/111">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► show me it's on its homepage but anyway he quoted a passage of Jhansi recruiters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/123">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► 2013 review Mac OS 10 maybe that was the guest the public beta that point and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/130">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► that it was polarizing and too much and stuff like that and then I made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► mistake that's that was John Syracuse you know every word 2007 is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► stand him . now it is you know the similarities are remarkable I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/150">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► terms of not not aesthetically but in terms of the response was way way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/157">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► forward and then retrospectives too far wish I think that's fine that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/163">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► you want to be a design go too far back that's certainly the way out approaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/172">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► bold design changes is to go too far and then dialed back as opposed to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/181">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► incremental e trying to push it there ya think about pointed out that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/187">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► right okay there was too much transparency it was too much liquor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/200">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► bility there was too much along these things and you know the the strikes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/205">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► know i i for grins the other day as a good at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► p.m. my god you know that at the time was a whole house news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/214">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► different this is this is cool looks really dated well and it's funny how in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/228">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► hindsight I mean it's you know some of the things we think about the stripes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/237">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► with think about the candy colors of the original opera but actually every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/243">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► pixel on screen was controversial from corner to corner like the fact that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/249">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► text was anti alias was hugely controversial because it was at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► it was computationally expensive made scrolling slow and a lot of that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/259">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► every night just to page through text ya resizing remember my window resizing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/265">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► that was like wow i like it will wrap around my windows ragged school makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/273">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► well and the other thing that made them look bad was that Windows had live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► window resizing and there's was fast right now you can excuse it because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/289">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► weren't doing full text anti aliasing and they weren't doing all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► shadows and stuff behind windows but the bottom line though was that in circa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/297">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► 2000 2001 2002 windows was very snappy user interface and Mac OS 10 was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/302">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► slow just things like you know you can actually see it when you click on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► you would see the menu dropdown enact it actually was visible you can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/312">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► system drying the menu because it was transparent and it didn't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► transparent or translucent if you well but they wanted to be in it was Wade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/322">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► design was way out ahead of the hardware Apple software hardware GPUs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/327">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► becoming much more capable faster you know all be heard by the game industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/335">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► no successful things like to thank everybody can have more more operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/344">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► per second more so it was good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/354">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► there are quite a lot and was much of the window you can add animations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/361">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► taking it now holds a particular now right now is because they made thirteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/378">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► years even just something like the size of the pixels on our displays at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/385">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► combined with the fact that most of us at that time we're still using C Ortiz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► top right i mean that was actually designed I mean our laptops of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► LCDs on laptop circa 2000 were actually a really I mean by today's standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/403">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► ridiculously bad technology bad viewing angles yeah I can only say one thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/407">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► colors a lot of cases you know it was great right as his brightness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/413">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► contrast for real problems and we really if you're doing serious Colour work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/419">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► didn't do it on a laptop you did it on a CRT yeah it would cost thousands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/423">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► thousands but the pixels word big I mean it was it wasn't quite they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/428">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► quite as big as the old 72 pixels per inch of the original Mac but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/433">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► was somewhere around 90 600 pixels per inch resolution and so anti aliasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/438">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► ended up to some people's eyes looking blurry not as opposed to making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/444">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► fonts look right which is the point of it it made them look blurred which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/450">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► obviously not the point I mean hugely controversial I know what we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/455">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► all sorts of tricks and hacks did not respond for their code editor when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/462">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► yeah code you don't have a lot of it so much as you can on the screen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/472">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► small size makes the worst so well and you also want things you really do need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/478">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► to be precise in codes so the difference between a period in a comma is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/486">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► the line actually compiled and doesn't compile a curly brace and a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/492">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► print the Seas which in a pixel fun you could easily discern the difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/498">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► on today's high resolution and with anti-aliasing you can discern but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/503">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► in 2000 with the original and switched and tailors in Pakistan a curly brace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/508">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► and a parenthesis often would look pretty much indistinguishable ya doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/514">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► all right well I said it's not as easy and 95% of the problems that I have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/519">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► like piling because I didn't look at the code right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/528">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► the comment so brazen well and you have you have the extra problem that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/533">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► your hands are the size of trying to press these little keys on a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/542">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► with these giant four-foot fleshy part yeah I don't need our cross to bear but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/548">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► anyway I think that similarity I think the analogy cannot be overstated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/557">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► this is you know this is the aquifer iOS yeah and everybody just struck me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/563">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► like you know the title there done that this is you could sustain sent a shot we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/571">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► were we were actually at Macworld when they this policy we walked out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/579">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► presentation just what has happened that's our world totally changed the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/589">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► we thought about I call it was literally shocked these are your colleagues at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/597">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► yeah yeah and I guess in some ways it was a great for you guys because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/604">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► obviously you know and again it it's similar to this where every single icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/613">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► in every single app had to be redone yeah they needed that and it took us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/618">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► period of time to learn how to do these things were going to that same process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/627">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► now a well that's saying it's exactly you know very very similar and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/632">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► the interesting things to me last week this is the wife of this we're seeing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/639">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► Iowa 7 sort of goes back to the days when they're worried I call for $16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/652">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► icons where you have to really rely on the symbology II couldn't get 3d kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/659">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► stuff because it just wouldn't carry been carried often get on the strains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/673">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► design so we sort of thing that same thing with another danger came up during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/678">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► this session is more like poster design the seventies ok found it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/694">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► interesting that you and I posted that link to the poster design just a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/701">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► yeah so you you posted to you yours was Peter Max right yeah some of the bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/708">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► colors and radiance but I think your legs actually better and it shows focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/718">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► on symbology my came from a daring fireball reader who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/724">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► who sent the senate is kinda blew me away this was really a link to his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/731">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► because German auto makers 1972 Munich Olympic design work now I have certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/741">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► seen in nineteen the 1972 Munich Olympics are famous in graphic design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/748">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► circles because a lot of the stuff that they did they're like the pictographs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/753">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► the icons that depict the sports they stuck around they weren't is used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► that Olympic there's there's like used today but before 1972 that in have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/762">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► things so you would just sort of have this lake like a true icon icon icon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/767">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► the sense that we design app icon today or toolbar icons today you know an icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/773">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► of a guy shooting a basketball you know go this way to see basketball you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/778">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► and you know here's a guy sprinting that's this is where track and field is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► but it's amazing it's not just the icon to those that type is all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/787">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► lightweight Helvetica but it's you know it's a Swiss fund yeah very very light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/795">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► stroke weights what do you think its universe actually I didn't actually even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► study it but just thinking about it my head it probably universe which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► know as an alternative to health attica yeah I was 12 years old and I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/810">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► those symbols and going wow these are really cool he's a really basic shapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/820">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► they can be a lot of information and an attorney i was just learning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/826">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► appreciate design one of my life and I was like wow this is this is what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/833">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► and it was kind of like real eye-opening moment for me and that I still remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/838">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► it so many years laters shows how much of an impact that the one thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/848">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► don't even know what it is a poster maybe it's a cover of a program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/856">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► some sort of print design thing to it says Olympics in 1972 when every hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/860">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► but it's the German in a Munich Olympics 1972 as a little bit logo and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/870">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► know what the other logos but it's just these are put in the shona but it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/876">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► looks like it could be the poster to announce the new iPhone looks like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► change the type of the bottom and it looks like you could say iOS 7 2013 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/886">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► iPhone OS X or iPhone 5s or whatever like this could be the decoration on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/894">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► the Buenavista theater and San Francisco come September for the new iPhone well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/900">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► it's also if you look at it all complimentary color right the low versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► the blue purple red versus the green and that's a lot of what they're doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/912">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► absolutely i mean and and in particular here to there really jump out to me are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/922">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► the green on the far right it's in a triangle that green to me looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/927">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► green of the new message and phone and then on the other side the red which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/932">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► sort of a vaguely pinkish red tell me that's not the new music app I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/938">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► is the color of the music app like it's not truly read there is a sort of links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/943">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► to it but it's not like a girly pink its I don't know I'm not I have strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/949">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► opinions on colors but often find it hard to describe them it's good artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/955">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► borrow great artists steal kind of very much this idea or bright red color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/968">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► scheme is something that's been done for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► or both of these happened at seventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/983">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► very seventies kind of color scheme that's going on here you know and color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/989">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► trends are an interesting thing to study over time and sometimes they're inspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/994">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► by world events you know like the forties word very you know everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► the forties was typically a very drab because of the whole world was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► workers you know serious and terrible decade and then in the fifties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► everything got real papi and vibrant it was on those because you know it have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► be to psychologists are sort of assume that everybody economy was booming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► middle class was booming worldwide world war was over we're making great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► technological progress so everything you know you went real papi in the fifties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► but then other times I think color trends are driven by technology and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► think a lot of that happen in the seventies where where there is so much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► mean everybody makes fun of polyester clothes and stuff like that but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► you could use plastics to make clothing you could produce clothing in incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► vibrant colors yes thanks as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► pain right like that just needs a new thanks to use them also understand a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► of these these courses are senile seven things he see younger generation wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1071">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► now like that the very different colors and right now you know his older people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► were used to something that we've been living with the last ten twenty years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► whereas the younger generation that's all they're like this office is cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► I think I think they're gonna love actually I do too and I just went by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► here in Philly just this week and I've been thinking about these things nonstop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► and I walked by a restaurant here in downtown Philly nice place in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► outdoor seating and big crowd there real busy and you know 7637 on a nice sunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► day and a lot of well-dressed people you know just for dinner and I noticed a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► of women wearing colors that to me look like these colors of Iowa Senate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► skirts shoes and purses I just it just looked to me like a codec the collage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► people it was like wow I really was struck I saw you know sort of future car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► yeah let me ask you a question do you think they're gonna come out with bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► colors to match the colors being black and white and purple I wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► surprised you know I thought that I actually thought that a year ago when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► they came out with the it was September and it was the iPhone and the new iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► Touch and it's a funny they're funny things to tell you really side-by-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► the iPod Touch is not that big a deal to Apple I mean in terms of how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► millions reporter i mean you could even if you assume all iPods or iPod Touches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► it's not that big of a percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► but it's you know its sizable enough but the funny thing is that the iPod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► has always made the current iPhone feel thick and heavy yeah I was gonna say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► the way through the first one it's sort of their prototype for what the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► is going to become its need you know let's try out these new things the out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► small we can get this thing out like we can get in and metal back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► I forget who I was there I think I was there with me as all the press guys you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► know when the hands-on area right after the keynote MGC and the most people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► crowding around the iPhones and I you know I got some time with the iPhone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► and thought you know this is great but I knew that Apple was gonna give me one as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► a review so wasn't that concerned about getting that much time with it so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► to the iPod touches and has ever had less of a crowd around them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► tables in energy and I looked at it more like this is this is the iPhone in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► years I don't know it's gonna be curved but it's gonna be this crazy then and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► think the colors that was exactly my impression of the scene at the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► and including the colors right right this is this is where this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► feature and another another thing people have dried up front Simmons was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► just asked him about it the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► little Q branch internal thing but how much are these new colors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► reminiscent of the classic 6 colorable ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► yeah well you know that getting a similar kind of situation just chatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► between ourselves and made the observations like the colors of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► rainbow so it's like saying okay you know it on the color wheel yes so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► the primary i think is the important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► they're the reason that this seems to some people's eyes care issues as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► all primary color right there are no in-between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► in-your-face primary primary you know like this this poster from the Olympics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► very primary color no color wheel but I do think that I i mean what I bet on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► I guess not I mean because they've gone so many years with only black and white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► iPhones but I don't know it's it just seems to me like a way that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► make a splash and it just seems like that the trend that they're going to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► it seems like that's what this OS was meant for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► to me it could probably tell he knew what the sales were four cases are fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► people using his iPhone 5 I don't know it's that's really the thing that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► like to personalize their their phone with case the edges are all beat up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► tank doesn't look like he likes this week with its whole bunch of times for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► Apple cares is the case I break it you know have a new phone so you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1428">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► much money I spent on a on AppleCare since 1991 she's so yeah serious I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► never smell I got AppleCare in 1991 for america is a freshman in college and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► did use it I actually used it I forget what I had to replace on it sounded too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► bad I did get to take advantage of it but then ever since I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► never once got AppleCare single Apple products and now at this point I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► far ahead that I could have like a total catastrophe like a yeah and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► don't know right or get a new MacBook Air for $1200 or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► I still be ahead I'd saved so much money on on not be getting out just by rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► I debated with 13 inch MacBook Pro I did they think about it what is in that bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► of break free calls a drive is she might still call you know that she's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► careless so I don't turn into a thing for me now I don't even consider it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► counter-culture I think it started when I got in in when I bought my 9600 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► favorite max I'd like loaded I mean it was a bankrupt myself to get a PowerMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► 9600 in like nineteen ninety six or so it was really hard oh yeah she was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► it was the last of the one either the last or one of the last before they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► to the G three and I think I bought it after the g-power match III was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► announced but the 9600 had like debuted at like an analyst for $5,000 retail but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► when the G three came out they cut the price to I don't know something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► three three grand or something like that yeah so it seemed like a good deal it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► you make a great deal and spec wise it was you know in some ways superior to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► the G three it was more of a pro in no way that the G three was I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► first national mobile processor Siracusa will will it send me an email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► straighten my recollection of it is that the G three was originally conceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► only as a consumer CPU and chipset and it just ended up being so fast it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► fast so efficient in such a great chip that they used it for pro for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► PowerMac because it was just so fast but it really wasn't designed for derision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► so the ninety paramagnetic 600 which had like here's where the budget power pc's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► 6046 something weird numbers back then but it was me you know had more drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► bays and expansion and had a better video card anyway so much money on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► and had so little to left in a cutting so much and all that every single dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► I had my name that could even afford the AppleCare so I think it and add another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► iPhone what's in your pocket is like 10 times more powerful machine easily go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► ahead let me take a break and do the the first one sir i want to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► transporter by connected data for sponsoring the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► transporter wanted to show a few weeks ago you might remember them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1674">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► cloud peer-to-peer storage drive for privately sharing accessing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► think of it as your own private Dropbox where there is no cloud server you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► it at a hardware device you plug it in and other people who you want to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► with you can share directly to them but the data is on a device that you own and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► right why would you want this well privacy is one reason or another reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► is control is a device that you are in control all of your data is stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► directly on the transporter and it's only shared with people you specify I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► can't repeat this enough that's the whole point of the show it private and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► peer-to-peer storage means that if you have two of them in your house they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► sync up with each other right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► over your own local network it works really fast you get they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► integration with the Finder you just install their software and it shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► you know in your finder just like Dropbox or something like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► local storage and is unlimited sharing you can share with some other places you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► have to pay more to share more this it's all you own the device you own the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► storage you can share as much as you want no fees ever they don't charge a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► fee for service it's just a simple deal you buy the device from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► you hook it up install their software and then it's it's there for you to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► brother so I can't say enough how interesting this is there's nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► like it on the market and if that appeals to you the sort of thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► having your own little private Dropbox I implore you to to check them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► thinking between the two devices that's pretty interesting things certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► yeah it's think of it as offsite backup you can put 1 at your parents house or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► your friend's house or something like that someone you trust or your office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► you know you could have a separate office from your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► something like that here's the deal they have three different configurations the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► first 20 terabytes this is for the nerds out there you supply your own two and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► half inch drive at $199 they have a one terabyte model comes with the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► terabyte drive already in there for $2.99 and a two terabyte model for 319 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► now here's the big thing this is the thing to remember because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► listening to this podcast the talk show go to File transporters store.com file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► transporter store.com and enter the discount code talk ta el que all lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► case and you'll save 10% off your purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► they're going to turn around the web for a bargain or anything like that just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► to File transporter store.com discount code talk TLK and you'll save 10% off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► those prices that equality before so my thanks to file transfer and adjusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► concept we do we're where we can tell anybody about anything we do you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► worry sometimes that dave is gonna get exposed somehow yeah I feel I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► nervous you know about you know and and drop boxes great service but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► dropbox is you know it's not in your control if they have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► sharing hole or something like that or she's using some kind of thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► you're sharing these URLs that are secured by obscurity you know just a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► long string of characters or something like that and I always worry this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► gonna pace that tweet or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► yeah I thought they were put pasting into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► p.m. and then all of a sudden it there on Twitter and indexed by Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► stuff like joining you were saying that my my iPhone 5 has ten times more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► processing power 96 1996 PowerMac 9600 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► I would guess way more than 10 times and Marco and yesterday about you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► seven cents of land into perspective right it's like they're really I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► really pushing the hardware it's clear we doing stuff is hard to do I give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► order creation I remember her I am now my days when I spent a lot of time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► Photoshop are dated but that actually puts it in perspective this is back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► I was doing stuff I got a PowerMac 9600 and late nineties and stuff i doing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► design work I remember when bringing up the Gaussian Blur plug-in for Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► when you hit return you you had some time to wait you you you know configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► it get it set right and then you went to apply it and then you had to wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► see if you like the results and that was just for one still image perhaps not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► even that big of an image as opposed to rendering it live at 60 frames per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► second gotta be quick it's got really really try and it's interesting to me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► little bit breaking mediator but there's no way of lawyer and so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► right fielder probably taken some shortcuts are probably doing some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► that's a little optimized more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► good for public consumption so yeah if they're really pushing the parallax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► politicking layers baseball it's alright I'm no longer inputs that's easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► either the dynamics everything pouncing on the moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► engines going to be a hard thing to it is you're just in that she'd go you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► Android phone no cost contract you screwed so what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► dates its Alan Pike its name of the software company where alan has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► stuff is a really great app called party monster numbered checked out man is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► great up he's Canadian steam clocklink.com Allen pike but he wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► blog post iOS 7 catch me if you can and Marco Arment had a piece sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► referenced allen's but it was sort of a long the same lines though but he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► his use of the word defense I'm not sure I agree with I don't know they did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► think you can argue about whether this is defense or offense that is this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► offensive maneuver to to do something that other people other platforms can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► do the honest I don't think it's either you were looking for a way to knock back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► a content there a reference point but not really see it so I'm gonna be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► if you have already run some brilliant engineer for fast I yeah I think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► of this goes hand in hand where it's not just hey we have these powerful GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► and these devices now let's take advantage of them I think it goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► to why they started putting these powerful GPUs into these devices yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► you know and there have been some devices that have been underpowered GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► was I think you know curious and I mean this is Andy a territory can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► talk about it because the whole iPad version of iOS 7 was not really shown at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► WTC I came out last week I don't have a ton of iPad rounded right but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► curious because I think the iPad 3 the first retina iPad it was pretty fast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► I think a lot of people agreed that it that the GPU is getting pushed pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► hard and that's one of the reasons why did they replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► six months later it wasn't just to get the lightning port in there I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► you know they put a much better GPU in there to push all those pixels around so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► I'm curious whether there's gonna be a difference and noticeable difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► performance on the iPad 3 vs iPad for I don't even know how to avoid it cause I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► the NDA yeah but I do think that the I publicly I'm pretty sure they did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► the be the iPhone for war for doesn't get some of these operations so ok be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► interesting to know their rap song for you know but I definitely think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2272">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► that's why they've been pushing these GPUs you know that are maybe even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► than what's necessary just to move the pixels like an iOS 6 around on screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► think it's because they've been wanting to go in this direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► yeah it's kind of sitting back off right to use as much as I possibly can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► they're pushing him their supplier faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► staff even more battle wounds and no one can experience we have a vastly superior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► to add 2007 was like there's also it's it's pretty amazing to me how far we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► gone just a short time right because I like one of the big things in 2007 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► you know it seems like a distant memory but think about it it's crazy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► the way that when you scroll in a long Safari page you get that checkerboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► design because there wasn't enough RAM to keep the hope contents in memory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► video card couldn't keep up you know and it was an interesting decision that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► made it was that was sort of I've written about this but it was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► the opposite of what they did with Mac OS 10 back in 2000 like you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► window resizing so in 2010 when you resize the window that content always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► complete fidelity and if the frame rate of the dragging the window had to suffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► then so be it but that meant that sometimes you resize the window and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► was real real story jumped into the primary thing was the fidelity of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► was actually being rendered we're gonna do the right thing and render the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► thing no matter how slow it makes the resizing whereas in the original iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► they prioritized responsiveness to your touch and so if you're scrolling real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► fast on a web page we are gonna scroll at the same pace your fingers moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► even if it means we can't show you the web page and have to show you just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► checkerboard pattern but like that checkerboard pattern could you imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► seeing that now on iphone 5 be shy just mentioned it would be shocked to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► yeah well they did a lot of stuff internally that the priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► highest those touches the head of the input devices more important he says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► opposite Windows Server was the most important thing up at the house include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► one of the other implications of our bikes and Marcos argument and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► completely agree with is that it's these changes to iOS apps are going to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► extremely difficult to copy or to fake fake I mean like specifically websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► and web as well but here's the thing I don't know though that we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► you know I think that they're not going to disappear I think they're just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► hang around and look sexy for years to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► you know like this the idea that you should make an iPhone optimized website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► that's great great idea because it is a weird shape and it in a responsive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► design techniques can can give you a site that fits perfectly but it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► still look like a website should look like a nap right now the bar at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► and back buttons and stuff like that but there's no way that a web mobile web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► thing is gonna be able to copy the psilocybin look and feel for years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► and even when they do my god think about the nightmare of trying to make it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► the same across platforms yeah this whole thing with the bullshit crowd goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► against what is the first and that's really what's happening with I was seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► and a lot of ppl palms with that the notion of ok it's not all about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► buttons and controls the doll what's on the page you know what is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► that's important for you to interact with its not all the controls and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► bullshit those are just means to an end and is I want to read something in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► reforms interaction yeah and I hope more we see more responsive design dubious as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2570">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► where people are you can't see the forest for the trees right it's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► want their er responsive design your content easy for people to do to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► contacted by the close encounters yeah I have a little thing that reminds me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► every hour that it's gone on the hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► you know anything about that tone is there i close encounters way after I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► actually forget which by Roger Moore Bond movies and he's in Venice oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► Moonraker and he's breaking into the bad guys tracks is secret lab and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► passcode on the door and the tone of the thing is the close encounters tone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► so that you know that was like a little from the bond people to close encounters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► which came out it before I thought when I heard when I saw close encounters as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► kid then years after I'd seen record I thought that close encounters ripped off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► outrageous that was the code Moonraker funny story about a very good attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► to detail has certain things like that always turns out it was such a just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► seems so obvious to me when I saw the movie that they are making a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► out of the tone that the code made what were we talking about before I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► distracted by the aliens whole notion content 40 and copying the look and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► ya cuz I can imagine how we're I think it looks so weird now where when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► in iOS 6 just reg you know how I was as we know it but you know Safari has grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► address part the top toolbar at the bottom and you look so stupid when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► website draws its own now bar under the Safari now part so you've got a nap Bart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► in a barn it's crazy to me and and and its findings it having the stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► don't want to read like ok branding great but I gotta know they need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► just like I wanna get off that site is like an lot of time these ones that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► over the scrolling often just back out and you guys are scaring my fingers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► can't even imagine how bad it's gonna look going forward as I S 70 where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► have this almost no chrome luck to Safari and to the apps and then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► gonna have this heavy iOS 6 style website now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► bar underneath it just shows what a bad idea was to ever go that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► web design to just add chrome is opposed to just focusing on pure content I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► think it's gonna be tough to to copy them and I think it's funny to cause a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► lot of people push back I know on Marco in particular he tweeted yesterday after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► his his post that the response from what you would call them Android fans or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► critics why would why would anybody want to copy iOS horrible which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2812">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► how these changes always goal from Apple now that's not to say that they're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► going to botch one and you know maybe we were wrong and iOS 7 I'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► it there's any sort of certainty that I was seven is going to be a long term hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► but the way these things go is Apple produces a design that is radical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► some way often are usually the ones that are controversial are the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► somehow seemed I don't know playful youthful right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► think about like the original blue iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► last clear plastics Mac OS 10 1.0 with aqua and now this with Iowa 7 those sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► of changes not let's say like the new Mac Pro that they announce which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2874">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► open to criticism of childish or or I don't know dismissive you know that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► you know that it's a toy or something like that with these ones that get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► get that sort of accusation they get mocked for a while and then people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► should shut up about him for a while and then all of a sudden everybody comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► with things that look like that yeah and smile and then and but then everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► but then instead of any sort of acknowledgment that yeah Apple trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► blazed on this and we were wrong it then turns to Apple didn't invent this Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► didn't invent transparent plastic right right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► the balls to use it talking about the Android apps Google Google Maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► very minimal design that's something that is very hard to get rid of chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► something that's already heading down a path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► its head in that direction as well hopefully yeah because I Windows Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► as is gone and metrics I don't think I'm going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► Cushing design wise but there seems to be an overall trend right now I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► those posters in the seventies you know this is where we are as a culture let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► try to minimize what we see how are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► yeah I think there's a certain humility to Apple going in this direction after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► certainly after Windows Phone and Windows 8 Windows 8 is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► is is more ahead of the design curved an Android I think it is to all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► place there is no you know there's if you've ever looked at like an Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► phone even a Nexus device there's parts of it that heard that seem new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► better designed and other parts that you know ya / a lot of it still to me feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► like just a web page even though its native software but I never get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► fuel from the Windows 8 the Metro luck and I think part of it is that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► a little bit of humility to a ball being in certain regards a follower of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► trend right where where if you were defensive about being mighty Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► leader of design world you don't want to ever be seen as a follower but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► that they you know i i would say admirably are doing the right thing not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► worrying about whether they're the first to do it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► yeah it's clearly the right way to go to minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► yeah and for them to recognize that they're also gonna put their home they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► went too far you know why not put forward as they think they can then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► retrieve a little bit to something that they're really happy really happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3112">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► the right if it's only been in existence first I'm pretty sure they're not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► should I think that and I think that they're pressing and this is sorta gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► back to a point we talked about before they're pressing in a Certain Regard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► pushing the technical limits of the devices which is a thing that Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► Google can't do with Android and Microsoft can't do with Windows 8 Mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► devices because they can't cut off hardware like Apple can and they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► write to me however many you know there's a bunch of iPhones and iPads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► running their gonna run iOS 7 but compared to all other mobile platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► in the world it's a very minimal number and Apple can literally and I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► might be why some of these facts might be not public API and private API says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► that they can literally right to this specific GPUs of the devices that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► support because there's only eight nine ten devices are probably fewer GPUs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► know they five days 60 just say sorry your outlook on 3ds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► day you don't you don't even get their ass and if you have an iPhone 4 we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► you know that you would never you know you you've had a good run with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► phone and Google Google is now only because they wanted to leave counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► they want this user but the baby and this is the thing that i think is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► to be tricky because I think it's new territory is that the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► can't be shown in a still screenshot or photograph yeah that I still screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► of Google Maps versus you know on Android you know which looks a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► iPhone vs apps on iOS 7 it doesn't it does look a lot more alike than when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► actually use it and you see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► infield this fluidity and parallax and depth and and stuff like yeah I was seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► I was screaming but then actually holding your hand on the basis of total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► so something that Android did years before iOS years before so full credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► to them is is motion backgrounds wallpapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► but they just animate it with absolutely no regard to the device orientation they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► move in a certain way and they've had a thing to her they've had a parallax wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► it when you swipe between homescreens the background moves in a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► whereas with the motion graphics of the wallpapers in Iowa s the motion actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► it changes even as you just suddenly twist you know just five degrees the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► phone in your hand the the bubbles move in you know in that way I mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► startling really I did not expect that to have as much impact on me as it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► when I held it in my hand right wow this is worse when they get back again what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► does reinforce the layers in it you know again not to just play up their own zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► designed propaganda you know with this new campaign but it really does start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► with not they clearly started with not what should it look like but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► question they started with is how should it feel i mean it's not really I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► to conveyed in going forward in print and web sites and stuff like that how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► you make these how do you show it when it's really about what it's like in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► hand is even the motion desktop thing that you can even showing a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► because you really have to have the thing in your hand in twist it to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► what the heck is going on tour right to be interesting when the rolls out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► now I'm just absolutely sure on a call from a sister-in-law who won what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► happened just what I call the Vikes my wife the other night and she still does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► not know how to search for apps are going to have to take over there I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► installing a dozen is really interesting to watch somebody who doesn't follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► tech industry around the stuff grr lot of positive things to say about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► Amy said the same thing in two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► she's absolutely right there to come back to him into the second spicer break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► and will be gone but their second sponsor I want to thank his igloo igloo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► internet you're actually like that so-called that they actually describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► themselves that way you can share content quickly with built-in AB's can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► add blogs calendars file-sharing forums twitter-like microblogs and wikis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► everything is social you comment on any type of content you can add mention your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► co-workers follow content for updates you can use tags to group things to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► there's add-ons you can add on rooms there like many clues for each of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► lucite for the whole company and separate little mini includes four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► individual teams it's easy the whole thing as drag and drop it features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► responsive design which we were just talking about some stuff looks great on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► mobile devices and it uses beautiful finance totally modern I mean again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► did you say internet and everybody thinks of these websites that were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► built in 1997 and haven't been updated since in all said ten-point Times Roman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► has enterprise-grade security so you can start using it right away or I T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► department is gonna love it it's free to use free for up to 10 ppl which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► amazing and in 10 grows when you're satisfied with it it's only $12 per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► go to a blue software dot com slash the talk-show igloo software dot com slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► including including a whole bunch of very funny sandwich videos from our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► friend Adam Lisa goran that they commissioned and they're they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► good it's almost like they've got their own TV show like a little like many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► office type thing really great worth your time just to even if you're not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► the market for an Internet you should go and just watch the same great thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► yeah you know the Western 17 to get back to where we were before him is why I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► have a lot of complaints about specific design decisions made and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► there is unprecedented in Apple other then again the Mac OS 10 public betas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► from over a decade ago we've never seen operating system from Apple this early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► through that said I will say I still have it on my main iPhone cause I'm old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► now and I actually want my personal essay was still in my twenties early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► thirties I have already put it on WABC WABC I can't write her twenties as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► as the beta hits you immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► twenties and thirties you wait just wait for beta 2 and you figure beta to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► good enough now that I'm forty Africa let other people think you're not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► I'm kind of looking forward to when I can do it but I it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► materially from me I'm not normally like ok their master yeah I'll be before way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► before that but no way later than right now but if you heard these stories about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► teenagers to a lot of teenagers are putting it on their phones like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► Interbike signing up to take the pain a hundred bucks to get their parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► signing up as developers so they can get access and would not surprise me at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► that there's like a lot of kids who are racing to put this up and it's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► and you have you seen this with the App Store reviews man I mean you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► there will be no problem with desperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► very lucky in that looks great great by sheer luck we were pretty good there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► yeah it's an actual bug but it doesn't matter where there is a bug in iOS 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► where you can't because of what we're doing with bold text for headlines you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► can't put a return in a note when you're running this brown I was seven and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► just surprises me how many are actually they're not jerks they're actually very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► very nice about it but there's a surprising me how many people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► complaining in the App Store reviews about it and they're not in great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► know and I'll bet it's an Iowa 790 you know they're almost like self aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► they you know but it just surprises me how many people there are enter they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► clearly not developers developers they had no right and no developer know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► fellow developers gonna leave in App Store review about your your app running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► on a two week old beta now if they know you are you know if they're just nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► they might email you just in case you are not aware of it or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► that which is the right thing to do but you don't put a public review 17 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3775">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► it's just a lot of people are jumping on a given number 415 this is just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► week after I was released the sauce 15% so wow that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► 15 percent Yes thats really created that's like okay yeah sure a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► from developers I'm guessing you have more oriented audience yeah best for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► know but still that's not like a 12 percent that's you know that's more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► obviously 6.1 is the highest number we see it would not surprise me here at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► teenagers are hearings the stuff because again it going back to the car college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► it's something radically different they can you know this which I am real happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► with the notion of non developers getting into development program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► developer program for reason we need to update our ask a lot of work to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► having people that have been under 200 random style I was just whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► I'm looking at my i'm looking him analytics for doing fireball and 10.3% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► of iOS traffic over the last week as iOS 7 which is unbelievable and I i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► i cant compared I don't know what it was like a year ago sex but I know wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► 10% yeah we talked earlier about giving us this early access there's a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► for that there are a lot of changes the wired for everybody not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► incompatibility yes he said things like you know the text input investors for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► compatibility issue and he probably is the hard way is working for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► conference yeah I mean it literally took us 45 at the almost more than a year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► we're fine that you are just as much as we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► it's a hard process to the same problem with desperate yeah definitely part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► ok how do we make this clean but still provide functionality and obvious pneus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► just that probably in agreement problems there's something that just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► obviously the search brass that I mention it's not obvious in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► design since Wednesday introduced that spotlight page there was the extra dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► underneath that told you there something more to the left right it was you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► always thought of it as screen 0 you know that the first home screen has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► screen one but there's also a screen 0 so we're not gonna start at 0 gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► start you at one and you can go to the right for additional apps but you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► to the left and there's that little dot underneath which i think means so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► it's just somehow before you poke around it shows you there something over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4014">TS</a>]
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01:12:04 ◼ ► for the first time it looks like the chevron is the indicator for the slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4324">TS</a>]
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01:16:15 ◼ ► but there's a lot of big push and I know Marcos talking about it on the accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4575">TS</a>]
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01:17:18 ◼ ► being a bigger iPhone you know something between the iPhone 5 and iPad Mini now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► or a smaller honestly I i you know I wouldn't discount on other days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► everybody you know is you know everybody thinks well if they go different sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4651">TS</a>]
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01:18:33 ◼ ► great screen but it is is small relatively in Apple's push right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4713">TS</a>]
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01:20:37 ◼ ► have to be new devices for the holidays and if they had to ship them with iOS 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4837">TS</a>]
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01:21:59 ◼ ► take a week off and just sort of just sort of deal with the 1.0 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► marketing in feedback and stuff like that but sort of take this break from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► the engineering slog of shipping 1.0 whereas then Apple revealing high with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4930">TS</a>]
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01:23:03 ◼ ► stuff at 60 frames a second it's very you can you can look at some design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/4983">TS</a>]
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01:23:31 ◼ ► WWDC by far as I think it's a huge deal going forward but I think you got very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► little attention at the time so much more was announced and that the addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► of tagging in Mac OS 10 Mavericks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► finder and file names and the reason I think you know everybody you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► thing that was overlooked and again I almost think Apple underplayed it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5032">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► iCloud sandbox that you know that in the whole problem with sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5040">TS</a>]
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01:24:13 ◼ ► save it to iCloud no other app can see that document except txt Edit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5053">TS</a>]
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01:25:01 ◼ ► you just you know it you can that's a huge thing that's a really solves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► problem right now he's got this is nothing but numbers are nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5112">TS</a>]
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01:25:38 ◼ ► much more I mean you think things like to order things folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5138">TS</a>]
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01:26:38 ◼ ► doesn't do any kind of organization can still do no organization at all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► give it a name and yeah people right yeah but I think though that it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► know and the other thing it does is it flat rate you can't there's no hierarchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5212">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► to tags you can take an item with two tags and it'll show up in both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► tax collections but which i think is cool and I think I think people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► take to that so that you don't have to decide if you know if you have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► folder with all of your receipts and you have a folder for a specific project now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► you've got this document that has received but it's related to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► project where should you put it you don't have to decide you can use both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► it with tags you can use both of those tags and it's in both those places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► there's no me neither one is it real and there's an alias yes it also helps with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► violators see something it's a party you download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► and then you know next week ok whole project thanks but it into a folder so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► that I can share my call it right but I thinks its I think it's a huge deal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5279">TS</a>]
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01:28:08 ◼ ► mention of tags in iCloud for iOS 7 it's just a Mac OS 10 Mavericks thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5288">TS</a>]
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01:28:20 ◼ ► gonna do for iCloud sharing and iOS to where you don't have shared folders you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► would just have these I cloud tags that you can use to access documents from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► app to another that's another thing that's kind of one of the unheralded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► features of the BBC's you know works across Mac and iOS has never been such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► very right you got a math games and all of these frameworks it's really apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► strategies to have this crossfire frameworks you are part of that contrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► to what Microsoft where you can have one you are always different devices but two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► totally different operating systems or apple juice is actually pretty awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5355">TS</a>]
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01:29:31 ◼ ► Mac apps it's great I was but not have happened you know on the Mac and open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► source implementations of those frameworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► mostly wear but you know are quite as good yeah it's a great strategy actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5385">TS</a>]
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01:30:00 ◼ ► stock which I don't even know if it's true or not you know I really dunno even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► joking but there is absolutely no need to talk about this increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► collaboration within the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► it was evident at WWDC it really was and the sessions in like you said there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► a lot less ok if you're in iOS developer go to this session if you're in Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► Developer go to the session it was really strong sense of this is how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► go to the tax cuts actions it was you know applicable to Mac apps and iOS apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5429">TS</a>]
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01:30:43 ◼ ► minutes and get the rest of his mouth off another great example is mapping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► it is funny it's funny how some things come to the iOS first and something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► come to the Mac version number maps obviously came to iOS first but now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► the Mavericks is coming to the Mac but how do how does third party apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► integrate with the system maps it's very very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► you know the differences are very specific to the differences between Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► OS and iOS but in general that are you know that this is how you do is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► integrate with Apple maps which i think is really good for the company and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5474">TS</a>]
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01:31:22 ◼ ► should should be it should tell a lot of concerns about the future of the Mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5482">TS</a>]
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01:32:05 ◼ ► things where there because Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5525">TS</a>]
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01:32:15 ◼ ► beginning with full screen apps in mind that the full screen apps on multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► screens were just so full of conditions your weirdness like this just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► make sense according to the conceptual rules of Mac OS 10 and what you want as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5545">TS</a>]
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01:32:38 ◼ ► how it if you have two displays hooked up and put an app in the full screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► mode of course this is how it would work but to actually get there I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► required tons and tons of work and its yeah yeah it's theirs and it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5565">TS</a>]
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01:34:18 ◼ ► was 7 device that feels like it's right at home close to being right at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw_lOK0/5658">TS</a>]
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