00:00:00 ◼ ► you not technically a back-to-back guess but you're a back-to-back appear on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► shell a show as the live show and and you made a surprise parents brought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► wasn't that fun which are really good I was a blast I really had no idea people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/9">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► like wow I can't believe it you got all three you look nice take it day guys on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/16">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► stage and I had no idea I literally until like 10 minutes before the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/20">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► all I did I knew simpson's gonna be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► yeah and he was just like we actually didn't even ask just like I'm gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/27">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► some of the guys come out and by the way out of plane doesn't land until like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/35">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► they got delayed he texted me a few days before that and said here you gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/39">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► dub dub I said no he said I'm doing a thing for the talk show I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/45">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► something for you and Marilyn to perform with me I said yes your plane I guess it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/51">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► was delayed it wasn't you planned it that way but apparently they were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► curtains were supposed to go up around 6:30 and you you relate wheels down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/61">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► yeah and I was on camera that morning for one of my one of my shoots that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/68">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► wasn't directing somebody else was but I was on camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► up until like 2 o'clock out a hard cut off and then I literally just had a pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► up from where was the crew was all rushing in a like a like a complete wat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► i said im sorry have to go beyond a podcast and that's it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/87">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► depending on where you were at me now that could be it probably took you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► longer to get to LAX then it took lax the flight to get to San Francisco yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/98">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► it's a real quick hop takes a lot out of you right cuz it's all you know getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/103">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► in and out of lax it's a nightmare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► yeah well it was a real 30 I thought it was for me too me too I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/109">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► the show was it seemed to be a smashing success yeah went off really well Amy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/117">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► brought up one thing and I thought I think she's exactly right everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► sort of an agreement afterwards is that we didn't really might the audience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► we all just did handheld mics on stage and everybody sounds great but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/129">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► we didn't make the audience if you don't know any worse you might think Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/135">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► bombed really because he indeed was the complete opposite I mean I absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/140">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► killed but because he killed he actually had to wait some time for the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/148">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► laughter died down to continue with the jokes but on the audio recording it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/155">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► comes to the crisis and maybe sort of like rethinking my god it's the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/161">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► Howard Dean effect it's it's all about the quality of the microphone that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/168">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► make a Reg somebody's career but anyway anybody was confused or perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/172">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► concerned that that Scott simpson's act on the show last week perhaps did not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/178">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► over well did the complete opposite is the case it was aight I would I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► this child with no I probably was riotous laughter yeah it was my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► time having gotten to see him do that which he's been doing for probably seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► like a year now and you've seen him before but it was my first time in so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/199">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► because I know how funny the man is and he just absolutely was he was Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/206">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► Simpson on stage except just more so and it was perfect I find it fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/211">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► because it's you know I would never do it I mean I'm not funny enough and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/218">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► don't have the demeanor but it's within my imagination to think about screwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► around doing right to talk I do conferences and stuff but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/228">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► fascinating to watch your friend do it and having just seen him a few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/236">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► ago he's gotten better cuz that's the thing is a key actually kids around he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/243">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► working his ass off on this I mean he's doing like eight nights a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► yeah but he's good but it's different because when I saw a few months ago it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/253">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► was like an open night comedians at a bar in San Francisco and it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/258">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► toughest it's the toughest room I could ever imagine because it's half the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/266">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► is other comedians who are all just obsessing over their own stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/272">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► they've just gone on in their thinking about what worked and what didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► or they're about to go on and they're they're just sort of in that backstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► mindset that they don't you know they're they're not paying attention to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► then the other have just drunk people at a bar and it's the expectation in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/290">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► entitlement of the audience that makes the biggest difference if it's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/296">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► do or what I've occasionally done which is actually just going up in talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/301">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► like a monologue and there's not the expectation the expectation of laughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► so the laughter is almost sometimes out of awkward politeness right where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/310">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► the kind of joke none joke that sort of like almost like an awkward self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► reference or like you know common accounting you know what I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► about and then you've got that there you get a chuckle from that from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► audience but while it's just the pressure must be excruciating I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/329">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► I was actually nervous I got in have to do anything I just SAT there with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/338">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► drink in my hand but I got like I got like these incredibly sweaty palms like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► I was like hanging by my fingertips like four stories up in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/345">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► thinking about my friend going in front of this audience when you when I speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/350">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► in public conferences you know we go to web stalker or something like that back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/355">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► in the day South by Southwest ER or when I do something like a live episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/361">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► the talk show the audience knows us already there they've come the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/367">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► who come to web stock are there to see people like me and you speak and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/372">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► already know us and there they want to like what we're about the same whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► when you're just at the open mic at a bar some of the people who are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/381">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► didn't even know it was open mic yeah they they don't care they want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/386">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► entertained and then there's almost there is no benefit of the doubt it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/391">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► it's it's all it's like I hate you until you please me so when you see people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/396">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► you know it's not like it's a surprise to me that a common stand up comedy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► hard you know there's been some good movies like Seinfeld had a good movie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/407">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► get the title was but about how hard you know how much writing is involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/412">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► because it's you know it's a lot of writing during the day and its work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/419">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► night of getting it down and I think it really shows yeah well I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/424">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► he'll be doing a lot more of it and bigger contacts and how cool is it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► kind of had a built-in audience going in you know smallish audience but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/437">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► one that was interested in pursuing his career yeah absolutely and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/444">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► these days he's going to be the guy well you know you're at your the other one if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► you like old guys get to see you know I knew that go back when he would talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/456">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► gotta stop talking to you in the audience were claiming we need to go so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/466">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► weird thing about doing the show the live w monument weird but you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► mentioned it on stage last week show that because you know time was of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► essence of a bunch of gas fund was gonna spend a ton of time on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► Tech details are nerding out on the design stuff because we could always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► well now it now is later yeah and in hindsight I really do think like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► recording it on Thursday 2011 days after the Keno boy what really sticks out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/500">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► me just is is the design 7 sure I get to them really I mean that's what I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/508">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► right after the keynote but the more time goes on that really to me it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/514">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► seems more surprising shocking but surprising sure after what's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/518">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► it's the thing that people can scrutinize at this point we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/525">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► have it how do you think that was to put it in in developers hands at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/529">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► being an unbaked product I think that they had to because it's so significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/535">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► and so much of the success is wrapped up around the App Store and they need is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/542">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► maybe a difficult word so elevated that they may not need anything but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/548">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► certainly want at least some subset of apps ready to go on day one with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/554">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► thing and how far along how far away is day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► well let's think about that I think that in the past it's always launched with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► new hardware so they said fall which means from North American or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/568">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► northern hemisphere fall last year's schedule was like a late September new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/575">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► iPod Touch and then mid-october new iPads I wouldn't be surprised to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/582">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► that exact schedule reproduced in theory if they have it all ready to go they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/590">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► could just do one big event and do new iPhones and iPads but we're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/596">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► something like September October because that's the new hardware is coming in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► new hardware i think is gonna need seven because every single previous year the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/606">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► new hardware has to run the new OS so there's been a lot of talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/611">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► being an opportunity you know there's Marcos post about burning everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/617">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► down so you can grow you know grow fresh and then there's been a lot of talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/621">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► about what you just mentioned which is that developers they need refreshed apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/629">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► in the App Store from day one of the new of the of the of the launch so what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/634">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► you think is involved in that for most developers is it just a redesign of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/640">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► looking or is it how much re-engineering I really don't know yet and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/645">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► really I've been thinking about it nonstop and I probably would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► thinking about it just as much even without that but now I've got a vested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/657">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► interest in it with my own out that just came out and I feel like we're in better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► shape than most because I feel like we kind of made it a little bit rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/665">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► correctly gauged which way the wind was blind but it still is a lot of questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► you know here's one here's a big one every single app from Apple in Iowa 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/675">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► that has a navigation bar at the top in other words I think that title back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/684">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► button at the top left in another table but none that operate its it's white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/690">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► it's a white navigation bar that semi translucent and then they distinguish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/696">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► between them they brand the absolute a bit just by the color of the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/702">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► are so the calendar app is read the Mail app is blue and yellow but you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/707">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► see what I mean they're all white wondering is when I S seven ships and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/719">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► kind of gathered collective sense of what it means to have a native for iOS 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/727">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► user interface is that is everybody going to have to wait now far are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/733">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► still gonna be allowed to do what what what's what's this isn't even about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► what's officially prescribed in the Human Interface Guidelines but just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► of what we collectively agree is iowa style design but can we use branded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/746">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► colors in a navigation bar the way yelp is red and that's Perez that slate blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/751">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► we gonna be able to do that or is that gonna feel weird out of place in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/759">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► timey yeah I don't think it's the whiteness the white background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/764">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► necessarily as much as it is the text styling and the you know the borderless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/769">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► labels in the book for those buttons I think that's going to be the universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/775">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► the only universally accepted unless Apple updates that for some reason which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/780">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► they still may I mean it's it's getting a lot of getting a lot of crap from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► designers which I guess we'll probably talk some more about but I just as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► aside before we got my eye I put it on my everyday phone on day one which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/798">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► terrible idea and people warned against I did and that within half a day while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/806">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► was still up in San Francisco my phone battery was dying within three hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/814">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► I was that a cable and it was not so I i downgraded 2614 again soon as I got home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/820">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► and then just before the show so you know I had already kind of foreign my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/826">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► collective opinion about about it by the time I downgraded but I haven't looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/831">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► and then about 45 mins ago I installed on my on a backup phone someone came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/837">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► again and I set it up as a new phone and it gets you know goes through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► welcome you know goes through the selector English your language selector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/848">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► WiFi network and then it says welcome to iPhone on a splash screen and there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/852">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► OK button that's not a button it just says okay and I go to tap OK and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/856">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► missed ok I missed like I felt like it felt like when you when you go to high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/861">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► five somebody and you miss the high five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► its foreign I definitely think it's you know and I think that the borderless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/871">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► buttons or maybe the most drastic change and that's and I do find it surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► even wrote before and I i sort of a never really didn't know I did not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► if this was gone but I did write something along the lines of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► that the gist of it you don't need all that stuff that's bubbly and really over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/890">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► making a button super bunny people can get whatever people understand what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► touch screen button is now see you don't need to make it look super bunny but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► they really took out with buttons to the ultimate extreme and completely removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/905">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► any and all orders from the buttons they're really just text which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/910">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► means that there is an implied field of where they call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/916">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► field of interest or something what what is the the top mobile space around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/920">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► target area the target area there is an implied target area that they that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► sort of assume that in 2013 people know where it is but an assumption that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/932">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► thing I think it's kind of too early to call really I just missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/940">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► yeah I think the thing that sort of feels off to me about no border buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/944">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► is that I always associate that with web pages that if the web it never existed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/949">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► might be more amenable to this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► than I am but to me when I see something that you can tap and all it is taxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/956">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► with no border around it I just think its a linking a webpage right and why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/961">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► that because of cursor still offers so much more precision targeting than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/966">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► than it than a finger does right and they do it doesn't seem like it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/973">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► areas but you know I don't think you missed because the tap areas too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/979">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► although I don't know maybe in a particular case in that setup screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► did because maybe they haven't seen in a maybe that has everything that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/986">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► tested the least because they don't how many times they go through the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► setup screen for a developer beta weightlessness do other things but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/994">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► know those in some urinals they have like a little printed fly above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► drain yes you see ya how clever and invention is that it just seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► guy who came up with that idea or the manner lady who came up with that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► sorry woman came up with the most pat themselves on the back every single day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► you know I was gonna say it had to be a man but maybe it was a woman because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► know they're the ones who constantly complain about men yeah right it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► just be a woman who is managing some sort of facility where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► spending an inordinate amount of time cleaning a sloppy sloppy Pacers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► so why a fly in like just a tiny balls I or the word ok I wonder that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► know I don't like depending on with syrians sports teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► Obama I mean Red Sox logo in New York Yankees logo in a Boston years actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► that probably get a lot of practice spot on targeting I don't know why maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► because at a glance you might think it really is a fly you know I wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► much they tested it to people if it really were a fly is that it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► a cool thing to do that to you in a lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► I mean I'm not I'm not a Buddhist or anything but I don't I don't take any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► extra delight in killing insects crawling on the walls of my house and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► gotta get rid of it but you know but I guess I would if I saw your real fly any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► or all I would try to be so I guess the question well so I just need some I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► some sort of an ankle like an object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► really for me what it's all about the underlying fear of the new of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► redesign of the OS for me right now is that none of the buttons are objects in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► there and I feel like I need objects in my life to touch you not do not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► satisfying to touch you know I just had another idea what if you look that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► with an actual little hole and they would be like one of those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► the carnival where you should discard cunning and build up a balloon and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► get to keep the balloon successfully you know put enough you're into the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► accurately when ya get an inflated blame Justin idea as a free idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► anybody out there you guys can take three ideas and that's one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► you know it's need having desperate because I can now say the this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► taste in user interface and one thing we do investor that's completely opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► of the Iowa 7 direction is that for all of our buttons there's really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► noticeable tap downstate for when you tap on something terrible but haven't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► sort of go the old style ruling from the classic Mac era letterpress does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► same thing but it actually in versus the colors so if it's you know a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► button and you tap it then it turns dark blue dark blue bunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► but it turns white text reverses its lovely how this works where are you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► help us sell for a moment it turns it turns out light grey background turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► light gray and then the whole cell lift off the page to indicate that its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► struggle with shadow and I find that to be in other apps just in this modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► cutting-edge design aside like when I sometimes CNN and it has like Tiger this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► is a dark blue nav bar and there's a button I get done by the top right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► corner and when I tap it if it just gets like a little bit darker that bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► a little bit because I feel like maybe I missed it I like to know that on my tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► down I've hit the target I intended to hit by looking at the pixels that fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► out from underneath my finger and I can tell I've got it whereas iOS 7 is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► complete opposite sign for most things if you tap them it's almost impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► to see visually on the screen that you did because all they do is really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► take the text and make it lighter and the background new nodes and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► tell us doing anything over yet still and that's the only airport texture in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► the back room still yeah that's your choice it seems almost out of place like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► the letterpress texture which I love and I'm super happy of the hang on to any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► that you look at the Contacts app to have though I do open up the contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► and then a list of people I don't look behind it through the it's like the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► itself is translucent and how long does it take you into the parallax trickery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► with owner and I could tell there was a picture there but it took me took me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► surprisingly Laura long amount of time to figure out where that picture was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► so you're saying that the wallpaper is supposed to appear behind its not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► wallpaper its you at least for me when I open the context admits using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► front-facing camera and showing me but but translucent and very blurred behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► the list of all the contacts interesting I'm not saying that maybe I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► contacts panel now at a cafe go to favorites I don't have any favorites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► that's pretty cool I mean what do you think of that is that what does that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► what I thought I think it I think it is that it's ready for you to FaceTime ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► that's interesting that's interesting aides are always wants you to be aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► but that's it but it's only in the context out there right now that's all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► operating metaphor that is pretty interesting I can't find any I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► think of there being any use for it and like you know because I because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► raised in an era of processor hungry computers by my anxiety it causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► anxiety meters eating up processor cycles and at the expense of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► yeah me too little bit my instincts run the other way to be like value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► efficiency above us but I think you know this is clearly being built I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► literally for like the next 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► oh absolutely that's it that's the interesting thing about development of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► this design is that it's not just for iOS that much has to be clear we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► keep that much in mind is that there was a language that's going to be applicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► across all their devices even the ones that we don't especially the ones we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► don't know about yeah yeah I definitely think that that's a big part of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► was like forget who I was talking to at WWDC but I was talking to somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► you know it's got a second third-hand information but you know somebody i no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► information there but somebody was talking to somebody and somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► said that this was largely informed by devices that are coming down the pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► and it's not that it's not supposed to look good on everybody's iPhones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► iPads that already existed and upgrade when it comes out but that its hand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► hand with new device new stuff that's coming out yeah that makes sense in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► it would make sense to me that it's a visual language that's that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► doesn't have anything to do with touch because you know just personal taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► wise I want you know like I said I want objects such as objects to have have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► wait and make sense to me that that these new style of weightless buttons or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► just for things that were also interact with others you know other means whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► its voice heard somebody say and you know use an argument that this was meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► for because Syria's gonna get stronger and stronger and more intrigued role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► integral to the US about that I don't know about it either I wanted to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► up with more I think syria remains sort of its own universe and I think sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► like an entirely second Terry interface to the phone I did it so well you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1553">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► me first so I was just going to say it's did I say I do like her daddy do you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► that they're serious sort of a secondary interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► I said well I like that yeah I don't know I don't think that we see in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► touch interface has anything to do with that would make sense but I do like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► they're starting to hinted integrating series into deeper controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► then just you know where's the nearest gas station yeah I totally agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► that that I think that there's long-term serious plan there too to keep Siri Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► as we know it is baby steps compared to what we're gonna expect of a device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► five years in terms of context awareness knowing where you are and what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► doing when you're there I did a video for nuance a few months ago and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► like a vision video that's supposed to sort of imagine how we're gonna be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► to interact with their devices through voice and I find myself very frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► with my cuz when I'm holding my baby and don't have my other hand tree in my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► iphone is literally 18 inches from my face that I can't just tell it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► yeah it seems so I don't know why but I rather than just looking at it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► what do you think of the new multitasking and I think it's cool not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► original I mean in the first I think that the three guys get the credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► yeah yeah definitely that was that was pretty much exactly the switchers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► think so the one thing Apple added which i think is actually pretty cool is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► icons underneath which scroll with a different rate there's a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► parallax there so you can go if you wanna go by icon it's a lot faster if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► you wanna go by screenshot it slower but they're bigger and I think the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► that this works so well is that there are a lot of apps that look almost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► same as them just a whitelist with black america text you know now it's the bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► so the icon is there to disambiguate them and I think that having the icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► underneath in a different scrolling list but which matches the screenshots in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► center is way cooler than just putting a Nikon badge on screen shots agreed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► taking me a little bit of time he's too how the snap like the physics of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► snapping I feel like I i tend to overshoot what I'm going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► pretty easily like it's almost too it's almost too classy yeah I guess it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► new messages out and it's I guess it's a new white rectangle so I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► having the icons essential yeah the most I think the message is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► controversial for me why so why is that just the well the style of the buns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► the aquifers buttons in 2006 or so iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► these just seem cheap by comparison like that the fact that they hung onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► dialogue bubble butt just made it to da illustrated without any texture or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► death whatsoever and then the cheap little cockeyed animation to bring you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1792">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► I have to think that the animation for them you know as you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► you're saying like when you type the message you hit Send and it pops out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► the text field and turned into a bubble it does but it also does it like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► one side at a time you know it goes off axis a little bit yeah and the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► feels like a like a train hit off the rails a little bit then why would it why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► would it do that I'm trying to you know you you always gotta try to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► yourself to ask why what's what's behind the decision they had to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► terrible and awful time I mean I was kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► earlier this is terrible and awful but if there's something that you've signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► as questionable like there's gotta be some reason behind it but I can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► figure out any reason that one side would go up cockeyed and then settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► settle out flat yeah I i cant i really you know again who knows when september [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► twenty something like this thing ships and its ships exactly like this and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► know I guess I'll be wrong but I can't help but think that the animation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► right now is just not completely but just entombed and yeah that in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► you know I think it was a really hard deadline because they did you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► a certain point no matter how late it was announced to be the BTC they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► wanted to get this out at WABC cuz if they didn't get it out at WWDC then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► were you know it kinda had to happen and I think it's clear how close they are to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► being not even having made that deadline having a you know even vaguely usable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► beta by WTC cuz he didn't even have an iPad version is still down and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► impressive but I do think though that that meant that they had to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► anybody's ever shipped to 1.0 of anything let alone an entire mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► operating system you you really when you have a hard deadline like that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► just gotta start prioritizing what you're going to spend time on before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► anything not done by this time isn't gonna make it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► I think you know things like crashing bugs or you know actual things that keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► you from using the app have to go above getting animation right I'm testing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► on a 40 s and that's also one of the things that there's a couple of minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► mostly animation related that real slow enough for us like a bad frame rate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► I have full faith that all the time it ships but on the other hand they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► shipped it's not like they've never shipped version of iOS that ran slow on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► older hardware I mean they are you know I mean I think they would certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► would like it to be fast enough for us but I don't know it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► concerning to me but for us right now as well and i just i mean somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► animations are really pretty impressive actually realize I just am definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► like just you know going into a nap or going back out to the home screen those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► don't get jittery at all it's clean it's nice it and it's like its context aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► it's like it's not just freezing the frame of what you're looking at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► there's some dynamic stuff going on feels like yeah definitely I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► that's you know this isn't breaking any kind of developer NDA be announced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► the thing that there is a new an entirely new framework and Iowa 7 could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► be getting it wrong but I think its dynamics but yes it is you I dynamics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► it's a physics engine for stuff on screen and it seems to be the ABS the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► developers that are doing like clever hacks to the SDK for things like save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2034">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► states those of those are going to be the ones that are most kind of screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► by this new stuff where you'll see you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► launching into a nap some of the town you know like to eat butter something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► you'll see a doubling of some of the status bar elements that's not supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► to be there because they're obviously doing something clever to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► refresh their save state from you last launch yeah there's no I mean and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► the nature of the major OS release in you know and and I should say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► entire discussion that I even wrote about it earlier this week about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► you know don't panic about Iowa seven it's just a bad day to me there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► middle ground it's not the point is not to say hey because it's a beta it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► beyond criticism that we've already done half an hour here criticized the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► though is you've gotta put it in the context that its beta in early June of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► something that's probably not gonna ship until late September at the latest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► mean at the earliest and who knows maybe not until October so you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► don't don't assume that this is what it's going to be when it ships but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► the other hand a lot of this you know and and they have design guidelines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► are out there pushing a meeting go to apple.com and Iowa seven is what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► showing you in the front pages of daikon so a lot of this is clearly you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► meant to be taken as the final design but as this is pretty much were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► ship so are you in and whiskas and Brent sweating swearing-in at this point or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► decrease spending long you have long talks about what are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► redesign now not yet have a few little things but you know we have enough stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► to do in the near term for quick updates to dress a few things that we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► to worry about it and I you know you know I think we need to have this settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► in little bit so that it doesn't feel so foreign before we know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► supposed to do right somehow it's like you know it's like detecting an accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► you know when you say you know it's like when you see it and iPhone app 37 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► and it just doesn't look right doesn't you know right it's like it's an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► that speaking with a foreign accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► well i i can't tell what the native Iowa 7 dialect sounds like I agree I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► think there is one cohesive one yet because it's so diverse among all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► apps that they shipped me really complain about it is the calendar out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► yeah I trying to really unusable actually I can't help but think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► it's just it's just not even close to finished not even finished being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► designed feature wise because it doesn't even have a list of events anymore it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► just it literally account it's it's like a wall calendar and its you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► day numbers of the month in one horizontal row where you have to swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► from week to week which is not entirely discoverable or usable like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► understand why anybody would want that now it just doesn't it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► make sense to me I mean it kind of looks good but in terms of actually using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► as your calendar doesn't even seem feasible the animation is slick slick as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► hell there's like the little bit of offset swipe around but the status by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► the title bar where the month is them in the search button + it all seems again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► without any borders are in the objects that all seems crammed together a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► bit one thing I noticed was that if you go to the Apple page for iOS 7 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► movies that demo of all the built-in apps for most of the built-in apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► calendar doesn't Apple which furthers my vague suspicions that this isn't is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► unfinished that they don't even want to show it really but I do it there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► animations of this great like when you're on the annual review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► 2013 shows little Square thumbnails for each month if I tap on june the J UN it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► doesn't just the whole view doesn't like fade out fade in the June moves up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► where it's supposed to go and then the dates you know I mean there's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► great little animation the way that it it's they they they stay there it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► you're staying in the same position it instead of the whole view sliding over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► to the left the elements day on screen and zoom up in the position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► yeah there's some really nice stuff is there any stuff that you know I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► curious what made you go wow this is brilliant and what made you go I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► want to see that again I guess the first thing that made me say wow was just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► basic zooming in zooming out feel like there's something better and way just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► me way better about just when you tap an icon in it and it's like the icon sorda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► turns into the apt and assumes that your face to consume the screening when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► hit the home button it's like the screens snaps back into the iPhone Icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► also I really dig the new photos out yeah I think the thing where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► zoom out to these tiny north on Nelson's Grove over them extremely cool and is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► addressing there is a case where they're addressing an actual problem that real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► people have which is that you've got eight hundred photos on your photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► rolling don't know where water where any of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► what about you what was the first thing I made you say wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► probably was the was the new home screen for the new other just seeing the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► for the first time was it's not necessarily better is just knew and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► was the first really the first new thing that we'd seen design ways in the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► version 1 yeah totally and it hasn't changed since version one except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► notifications that they've added in the middle and I don't mean the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► notifications when whenever the whatever always was at five I think so those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► huge improvement I don't miss the old blue one with the white stroker on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► right but I didn't I don't feel like I was just begging to have later text on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► it and it just the sort of shameful thought is that it now looks more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► other mobile devices as a good let's get back to that one will continue from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► there remember that but I'm gonna take a break here and talk about our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► sponsor you're going to think that this whole thing was fixed but it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► a total coincidence or first sponsor is a new company new company called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► fracture fracture you send them your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► here's what you do you send them photos they print them in vivid color directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► on glass it's a picture frame an amount online so it's not a printed on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► kind of paper and then mounted under glass they actually print on the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► they send you a box you send the photos digitally they send you back of box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► includes everything you need to get your photo on your wall or on your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► their small team the hand assemble every print themselves right here in the USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► Florida fact there you go for it and add what they call a thirty-day happiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► guarantee lifetime warranty a couple of that happiness granted they have three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► ever they have three sizes they have sizes starting at five by five small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► square for 12 bucks goes all the way up to 22 by 29 extra large 829 five bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► they kindly senator the sponsorship they day to couple photos from me and save me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► samples three these sizes and it's great it's really impressive in its get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► yeah they're really crisp and really well printed and it's you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► same way that you got your retina display i funny like I was like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► these pixels are right on the surface this looks so much better there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► little bit of pair Alexis the same thing with this whereby printing right on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► glass it it's instantly you can tell that even from you know couple feet away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► that it's not a picture underclass that it's a picture on glass and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► frameless it's it's just the glasses there's there's there's nothing separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► their mean it comes mounted to a piece of which has like a real secure all in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► way to come out to your wall everything is really nice it should be a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► nicely crafted product and you put your own imagery on it so it's not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► have to go to the frame store anything cuz it's a drag you just like sending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► digital photo you get this cool full full-bleed effect because it's printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► page it's like people don't know about fractional be like how the hell did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► do that and then be up to you whether you tell them or not but I'm telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► to go check them out and try them out their website is fracture . me our acct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► you are taught me and they have a promotion for a talk show listeners use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► all one word talk show you get 10% off your order now the reason I say you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► as I just thought I literally found this out five minutes started recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► they've got it they are they going to yeah we're going to the pool this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► if an editor got an email from them they wanted to confirm that I got that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► demos pictures inside adderall listeners are shown in a poor as to who was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► to be the guest this week and and I'll dealing with his money was on our minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► but the fix was not in I did not know this until I already asked you to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► yeah it comes as a surprise to me I didn't know that they were sponsors I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► think the reason is I think it's inevitable here's why i think its cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► companies with interesting new products in this is super call me this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► really need thing I I never in a million years would have come up with this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► but now that I've seen it now this is what I want to do with my pictures that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► I want to put on the wall from companies like to sponsor this show called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► companies also clearly wants sandwich videos was the last one the last one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► shared but then there's the igloo igloo yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► sponsored twice on the show they're great and now you guys it would last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► time I was there is one the first one was out it was very funny but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► they've got a whole is like a TV series series as a whole series in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► they're very funny and my thanks to fracture got a fractured at me and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► can find out more and you can soon not yet but soon you'll be able to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► I'm comfortable sort of uncomfortable fact is I was 7 looks more like other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► mobile operating systems and in addition maybe the thing that looks most like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► not another operating system but sort of looks a lot like the Google static for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► iOS apps which is not the same as Android right the Google Apps Fri West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► don't look like Android they look like Google's iOS aesthetic yeah that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► interesting distinction how would you characterize it just like text way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► white backgrounds translucency right doesn't think it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► you know a lighter lighter weight meaning dinner stroke Helvetica these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► sort of vibrant blue reds yellows you know the Google palette primary colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► yeah I mean an interior designer but I but I i and you're not you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► you're not a designer either but I asked you like 10 in your opinion what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► later text mean why why that is that akin why do people see why is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► trending that way I don't know I don't know what it means I guess it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► goes hand in hand with friendliness I don't know maybe just sort of general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► trend has been going out way marketing wise to ever since the I think starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► with the MacBook Air but did you know to emphasize there's lightness they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► period with a lighter text and then last year with the iPhone 5 they really went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► later they think they've been commissioned might have commissioned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► new version of myriad the myriad of a long story short but it's a multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► master fund so it was always intended to have highly adjustable stroke with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► they went super lightweight with it because they wanted to emphasize way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► emphasizing the physical fitness of the iPhone 5 with the Denison lightness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► the marketing material that surrounded it right and they I get that but why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► does it have to be everywhere why does everybody everything have to be no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► universally liked I mean to me first of all was the world clamoring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► universally later text people looking at like normal weight text and going how my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► eyes and then I mean I just prefer that it were used selectively just like bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► text is I don't know I think it's too I think a lot of it is just subjective and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► Jony ive in the other designers who were calling the shots on I was 7 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► whether it's that they like it at the moment or whether it's what they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► forever I think it's what they like it's not to my personal liking you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► Vesper serves as a perfect example I mean where the text there is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► heavier if anything it's a little heavier than standard I mean I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► regular weight of medaka ideal sands book i think is a slightly slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► boulder stroke weight and we used semi bold and a bunch of places to go even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► bolder but I don't think I again I think that's a way where Apple is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► mean I think Apple is setting their own look for the default abs and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► think third party apps necessarily need to follow that I could be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► admit I haven't read the designed transition document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► maybe it said you got a you know how that a culturally everywhere as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► not going to be home but I don't think that's the case I think it's Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► setting their own look what's interesting to me is that so much focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► is being so much attention is being given to the icon the RBI country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► designs yeah well I'm not surprised but I'm surprised that a week later people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► are still spending so much time on my right which is just a small slice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► the most visible front racing slice of the redesign but those can be designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► without any implication whatsoever on the rest of this operating system but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► when it when I look at these grand it's all grad still what they've done away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► completely with is the is the spec the glossy speculate on all the elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► which I'm pretty glad it's there in the game center icon still up for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► reason I don't know why those bubbles are still glossy but everywhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► it's got a grad from light to dark and what's interesting is that like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► mail app in AppStore and videos and Safari the lighter side of the grad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► this neon greenish blue and the implication of those kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► highlights was the reason to grant exist is because your simulating like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► a light source on the object right right well I guess that's what used to be well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► I think I feel like it's still got kind of gotta be like this that it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► about making a light source but the weird thing is that they're basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► saying that these objects live under fluorescent green light which weird I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► saw somebody there's a couple things and it certainly got the most attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► agree with all of it but I do think I think it's exciting that it and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► offended as a lot of people are some of the decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► but I think the reason everybody obsesses over icon design even even now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► just professional people who actually make a living design icons who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► largely are upset about these changes at least in most of the public reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► i've seen that there's sort of a collective what the fuck from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► actually design icons professionally regarding this but I think the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► even armchair critics of Iowa s always or any system will jump on that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► konzi's that app icon designs the one area that so capitulated that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► can imagine doing it even if they don't have the artistic ability to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► everybody thinks he can only imagine being able to draw nap icon sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► just make a doll and a little square so everybody has ideas in any time you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► ever done client work involves an icon god that's just the worst cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► everybody has an idea you can you can never please anybody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► well I mean I really enjoyed living media is did you see the limit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► reached he put it up on durable as a reader now I didn't see it it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► anybody could do it pisses people off I love he's he got no and is it partly why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► 11 those that he's got no off switch things like this is a year or two ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► and they've redesign when the itunes logo of people off because he trashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► the new one from Apple well I just sent you the link to that and rebel condors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► have good yeah I got it looks pretty well no actually kind of disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► some of these ok for example on the mail he went back to these tapered edges on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► the diagonals things whereas I think that the the new the new look and Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► seven where they're sort it's more icon defied is actually better they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► these they're not it's a little bit less realistic and little bit more idealized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► envelope uniformly spaced right but largely I see what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► you see here's the thing I see with the gradients the grads is that I got on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► green ones like phone message it looks like they're they're lighted the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► dark at the bottom and on the blue ones they're dark at the top and light at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► bottom which to me is confusing light source wise if you're talking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► and and in the old iOS the gradients and those the greediness it was all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► was definitely light source and it was about it three dimensionality to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► whereas in the new 1 I'm not quite sure why there's great ones that have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► gradient because the one if its light at the top target the bottom to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► says it's always get this mixed up a convex shape and if like mail where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► starts at the top and light at the bottom it's a concave shape because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► that's what would catch the light I don't know I don't know I i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► more about sources I mean it's got a basis in photography where sometimes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► dramatic effect you under light something one big change though and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► very very clear to me is that the old the old iOS but our icons like the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► screen was looked like an array of buttons and I am i dont know thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► exactly why they went with this one of the big changes iowa's made and enforces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► that your icon has to be this round cornered square and a matter what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► it then it is gotta be around corner square and some people have done really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► clever things to make them 3d books book even though it's still in the US in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► forest shape to add a bottom edge or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► whereas you know on the Mac and Windows and other systems for the outline shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► of an icon was completely up to the designer could be anything and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► I was thought that was clear from this shape and the three dimensionality in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► the Aqua can do this to them to all of them that they were meant to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► buttons you know any idea what you have a home screen of buttons and these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► things you can do on your iPhone in you hit a button to do that and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► almost like you weren't even you didn't even have to think of them as apps thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► you did on your phone because they really concerned most people at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► 2007 had a phone that they could barely used to make phone calls that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► barely program with their friends and families numbers and associated name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► if they did figured out it was a huge pain and so here they're asking people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► to buy a phone that could browse the internet and be an iPod and manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► calendar and do all these things and I you know I think they started with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► mindset of all let's pretend that it's a regular fun and you just have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► features and there's one level of hierarchy go to Home screen Calendar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► it's a but the new buttons are the new icons I was 7 don't look like buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► anymore they still have their uniform outline but it's they're not biting me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► yeah they're more I don't know in this case I think they are more they're more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► like abstraction but they're they're like things I i guess i agree with you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► UCC that diagram that is supposed to be the guidelines the template with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► different circles the grid right thing and the circles way bigger than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► think it would be yeah and are sharp al Melvin Morgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► and Ray and went so far as to say that it was a wrong it was an aesthetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► wrong decision and then a photographer friend David Friedman actually made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► interesting point that he feels like it's a choice to break the aesthetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► pattern of the aesthetic expectation much in the way of it there's a rule of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► thirds for photographers and and it's an aesthetic choice to break the rule of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► thirds for intentionally and he thinks that this that's what I've has done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► this grade I think he's exactly right I do not think that it was any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► ignorance about the conventions of Iowa iconography or best practices of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► iconography you are not a wariness of what was deemed by good icon designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► as the best icons I think it's a deliberate attempt to sort of break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► those expectations I think there is a sort of sounds dismissive and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► mean it to be but a sort of cargo cult around icon designed for iOS that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► is this this is the right look and feel for a good icon and people some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► people who are good at it got really good at it like there are some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► cool icons for iOS apps but I think it really got locked into a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► mentality that I don't know is was meant to be forever I agree I mean this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► radical shift in it but it's not going to be the last radical shift that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► gonna happen they might even be making them less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► chefs will be more temporary trend transitory like just like when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► for it I feel like I said Italy when when there's a shift like this then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► just almost implies the next ship is going to shift is gonna happen quicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► yeah I think so maybe and I do think to the other big thing about the grid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► yet to make any individual icon look better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► the grid is very specifically about making your entire home screen of 20 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► 24 apps all the raid together look better and I do think there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► harmony to that I got mine I happen to have clock next app store next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► settings which are all circles in the round square and it's something nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► about the fact that all the circles at the same size is live now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► yeah I read that sentence it's a sweep its not take right on the second hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► right give you agree that you may get worried that it's burning CPU so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► should only be updating once every second not third of a second or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► its sweeping that it's pretty also it's just like I don't know if they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► make that secondhand any any thinner than the one pixel by 20 pixels that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► is anything but the new folders I think they're really attractive I do too and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► think that it's also one of the best uses of translucency yeah and the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► and I think the way that you can pan through them you know and make multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► screens folders just literally put all of your even if you have any games you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► can put them all in one folder games and just sort of happened Tuesday could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► know have to mode for your iPhone you could just have all your apps in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► service which the game mode and paid through I think it's great it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► very thoughtful and in a way that I think really makes it easier to organize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► a lot of apps yet is among all the changes that we've been talking about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► should be instantly familiar 222 existing iPhone users I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► anybody will be confused by these new folders I love that frosted glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► I I had I was able to tell on the wall pit the default wallpaper though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► installed but I just said like a really colorful photo to the home screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► the folder with the frosted glass this super defocused background it looks more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► real than anything and I was 16 yeah it looks like it really looks like I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► be able to touch it and feel like i text frosted glass texture is one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► think there's two things about it that they could improve so on the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► all apps into folders have their label underneath when you tap a folder it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► opens up zooms up it doesn't again it's the same thing like just sort of zooming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► in and out but the text goes away and a new text label in a bigger fund is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► written above my link that the label should still be underneath and it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► zoom with the icon yeah what's that was I don't know I don't understand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► right there I don't understand why it doesn't seem just like the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► talked about the calendar a couple minutes ago where the month name even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► though moves into a different position versus the days of the calendar it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► assumed into that position in the days I'm sure that space on the bottom for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3834">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► some the other thing I thought is that you should be able to pinch-hit close it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► and then I read on 9 to 5 Mac the other day that somebody was like poking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► the internet even jailbroken poking around the internals of it and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► a hidden setting that they obviously were plainly that is right now to close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► it you just tap away from it but I think you should be able to chip in the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► folders yeah I think people get used to the icons I think the colors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► curiously chosen oh and you brought it up before that it almost don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► to describe them they're not might there not I don't hate them I don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► but they're not to my liking yeah who knows it's just a guess as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► transitional who knows what next year will be do you think that their target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► audience for the colors question I mean I would think you know younger people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► to me it's not a masculine feminine thing it's a kids now kids to to rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► it doesn't look childish even I've seen a lot of critics of the icons call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► childish its youthful and I feel like I'm forty I'm old enough for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► there's people who I can call youths a lot younger than me but aren't kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► definitely there's you know colors come in and out of action just like clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► do and I guess that's how it is very current hopefully and like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► people of compared to compared it to serve a tease me on like Miami vices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► that maybe that's why I think it's also true I do think it's true I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► is a lot as it's fundamentally timeless design for the OS but I feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► decoration on top I feel like the metaphors that they're using in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► that they're using zooming in and out and layering is is fundamentally with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► this for you know probably the the rest of Iowa's life and I think it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► thing I think the actual specific palette of like the colors used under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► icons is subject to change in two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► definitely that's all just skin but it's interesting in for example I do have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► testing phone I have Google Maps and Google Maps app in the Google Maps app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► really looks like the colors on the icon looks so restrained whereas in general I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► think Google uses you know colors that are more primary then I like typical me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► everybody gray color even black but compared in Apple's new icons Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► looks very very flat and I don't mean flattened a three dimensional i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► colors yeah just restrained all there there there is sticking with the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► of the maps which I guess maybe maps have to just be universally colored in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► order to be accessible I don't know D saturated as another yeah I needed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► really funny to think of Google is the one using D saturated colors kinda crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► the color of them the road in maps as the same color as the same yellow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► that the top of the notes very close so here's another thing so you go to for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4070">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► example and I think it's the best maybe the best example you got in the mail app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► and at the bottom it's the same fundamental layout as the old male you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► know now barred the top can go up and down messages you can go back to the no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► further up the hierarchy and then at the bottom is a toolbar where there's a flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► button a folder button archiver trash button fly button what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► about those icons at the bottom in the toolbar the square with the arrow all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► them male like the flag holder archive reply like when you're in a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► they're they're fine I mean they they they say what they they're just to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► they're light and nice and clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► I can't get into the one the square with the pointing arrow though ya know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► the hell it is that's like replacement share button to share but just action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► because in some cases it's not as sharing it's just sort of like a do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► something with this thing yeah yeah I've always thought of it gets but now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► difficult it's it's tricky getting used to the up arrow and it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► should make that big of a difference i dont like I don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► icons like dry cleaning instructions on a piece of clothing they they they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► don't fit with anything to my mind and there's this site its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► like Helvetica cons and it smelled weird its age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► LV here it is HLB I T I i cos HLV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► just a Jovi T and then icons . ch as its west and they're not open source their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► royalty free you pay for them but they're like clipart icons you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► and there you know the idea is that it's like clip clipart icons that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► supposed to look like the general aesthetic go Helvetica of the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► I think that they largely succeed I think that they do kind of I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► you know I might even quite sure how to describe that but as Jordan rectangular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► interest to them in uniforms group with characterizes Helvetica these I contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► that to me is what the icons seven should look like more or less yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► should match somehow harm harmoniously with the feel of Helvetica itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► whereas these field totally foreign to him and and I you know I actually think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► a lot like Android robotic to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► yeah they just look like two leaders look like really lightweight Helvetica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► Helvetic ons there's something that doesn't look like there to the linear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► when things are flattening of etiquette they're very flat rectangular it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► right corner but when things are curved it's very curvy whereas these have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► little curved them it's all just rectangles in right angles and 45 degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► angles and the other thing about them too is that there's again there's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► no indication when you've tapped on 15 successfully tap Done unless you kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► purposefully tap off to the side because there's no background color change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► old the IRS had like a paid when you click on toolbar icon or a glow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► glow I i guess its glow and it was a large enough radius on the glow that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► could see it outside your unless you really covered it up with a big fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► bummer but we give you this instant hit you know feedback that hey you hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► thing that you were trying to hit or they didn't hit the thing that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► trying to hit where is this you completely cover them up and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► visual indication is that they get lighter concerned about that yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► maybe they're just making all this stuff so milquetoast that is just encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► people to screw it desires to break it and you know and i hope i know i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► this whole show hasn't sounded like them down I was 7 I'm super excited by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► it's great overall but I think there's a lot of little details on what we've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► so far that really need a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► agreed we did a second sponsors our second sponsor also very excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► brand new app just launched today I know that it's all right now we're recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► on Thursday the 20th I'm not sure though today officially it's in the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► get it but I know the show's upcoming Council tomorrow so maybe it launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► yesterday depending on your list called into the browser into the browser you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► can find out more it into the browser . Co CEO here's what it is that iPhone app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► and it turns any web page into a mobile webpage whole point of the app is mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► application of the web it downloads just the page's HTML parses out the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► and content and then it renders it in a beautiful mobile style and it figures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► out which parts of the page which images actually matter and only gets those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► so it's sort of like the way you might use Instapaper something else to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► later it's an aids for reading it now it's a read it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► and it's great for any kind of context where you're out you don't have a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► mobile connection earlier at a conference or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► everything super slow then instead of loading the full web page and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► mobile firing it somehow it's just you put it and read it now mode and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► doesn't mobile thing right from the get-go it does a really good job this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► the hard part sounds like a great idea lots of other apps have done this lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► of other services do it but I tried out for big stretch and it does a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► on all the other every site I tried to use it on does a great job of actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► figuring out here's the actual part that you want to read and just giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► that as an automatic table of contents for every page where parses out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► links on the page and you described over to the side has nice little 3d effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► and it just shows you the links on the page which is great if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► something like home page of a blog or something like that you could just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► during fireball what it shows you is just a list of all the links on during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► fireball and then you can find the one that you want and just load that so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► meant for speed is meant for browsing table of contents style and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► importantly it does a perfect job rendering during fireball on the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► it's launching today again I'm quite sure if today is today today or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► yesterday today but when you hear this if you hear me say this to you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► their introductory price just $2.99 go to the AppStore search for into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► browser you'll find it or find out more in the browser dot dot dot com dot Co [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► my only concern is my concern is have already i already every time I say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► wanna see Instagram Instapaper and whenever I wanna see Instapaper I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► Instagram and now I've got a third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► an instant browser so gonna screw them all up 33 is all we need now more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► speaking of Instagram though the path and the news today is video stream so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► you're not a vine user very much you've done it a couple times yeah I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► because I'm not good at it I I found to be interesting and I do check once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► awhile and I'm not good at either lets I want to make that clear I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► actually think in that format there are some people that are really good at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► yeah I am NOT and it does it state tends not to be filmmakers is so there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► point there's no there's no connection between their correlation between people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► who make good films and people who should finds my favorite fine person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► is Will Sasso the comic actor he's to be on MADtv and I don't know what else he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► been doing using the Three Stooges movie and he makes the funniest lines I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► ever seen and they always be alive he's the Rob Delaney avoids facing potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► Instagram announced today is doing fine does except they're gonna give you 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► seconds instead of six seconds which in principle it really seems to rip it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► really seems spiteful it really seems like these other guys built a nice new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► you know it clearly isn't keeping people from using Instagram it's just a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► new thing it just happens to be owned by Twitter arrival of Facebook's and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► they've gotta do the same thing all the best thing that could possibly happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► and Instagram accidentally poached its own success or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► what do you call it when the word but basically that that they've they've sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4672">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► of diluted there they've diluted themselves by allowing video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► nobody's going to be interested in going there for stills or video anymore I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► no will to the good people at Instagram but Facebook you know what you took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► words right now that I'm feel the same way I I like Instagram out using it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► I feel a decision dick move and I also have to say when I go to answer I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► wanna see people's movies divine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► I kind of like the compartmentalization of Instagram and Vine you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► like that and you know and if people want to if there's a place where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► should be sending them are you see amala wants let people post them on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► facebook waller put on their Twitter something like that but I tend not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► like it when it's something really special I am instantly start thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► about somebody Twitter's all of their Instagram's sure I wanted to see all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► your instagrams I would follow you on Instagram yeah now we're probably wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► and it's gonna be Instagram is going to blow up even huge that it is now video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► is going to be really what ubiquitous in the fifteen seconds for when maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► people forget about that would that would suck but I think the vine still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► has something really crucial in special which is the videos are meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► autoload and just play without any interaction without any involvement on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► the other users part and you still have to believe you still have to press play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► on the ensuing videos they are driving operated by but I can't see how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► who knows maybe but it seems to me like when people would come out with rivals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► to Twitter and their future would be that it has more than a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► forty characters you know that that that hasn't worked so I don't know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► gonna work here either and it's funny again to see Twitter being the one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► the more restrictive limitation yeah but it makes sense I don't know if it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► this is a good idea for Instagram sense I don't know why the the the one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► of friction to vie for inviting is in the thing that keeps I think people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► using it as much as they want to is is the load times on the videos and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► probably Instagram house I'm just assuming a little bit more capacity but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► I I don't know I guess you know one thing find us it's pretty clever is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► day auto upload in the background as your recordings they don't let you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► back right so you start like if you want to have like 33 shots in your mind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► you hold down for the one and he let go it starts uploading that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► yeah I think so cuz its if you ever try to play with it you never have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► for it to upload I think they're doing some tricks and then even if you cancel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► then they just send a link to the server and say I thought that way right but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► say they don't sponsors show what else would I S seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► he played around with radio yes I have I think it's one of the most polished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► parts of it i think it's great it feels like a finished it's one of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► things that to me just feels like you don't have to touch it ship it at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► is great the whole music app is really pretty well done but radio really seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► done to me what you think I'm just playing around with it for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► time actually it's really nice man I just cost us like 15 Grandin music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► licensing could tell you what it was when I tapped to load a song there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► the gave me the status circled the loading circle which is new in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► that's across all apps yeah so there's no longer that the dotted line circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► yeah I don't think so I think it's it's it's a circle yeah it's it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► bit more like a watch thing going I feel like every every decision they make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► only choice is to be like Bill Murray's character in Royal Tenenbaums when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► studying kid who's like very much mentally handicapped in if the kid does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► something weird and wrong he just goes fascinating and I feel like I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► reacting to this over and over again here's an interesting repercussion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► the white background everywhere and the music app which i think is right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► really do think is one of the most polished of all these new apps but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► music app shows this so any old OS if you had a toolbar at the bottom of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► app lets say like mail it would by default have this sort of pale blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► and the buttons were actions so you would hit the reply button and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► replying to the message you're looking at something was going to happen and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► you had a tab controller at the bottom it was black with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5034">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► color screen and and any ideas when you hit these things you weren't doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► something you were changing the view it to tap controller whereas in an hour and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► iOS 7 everything has a white background and so like in the music app but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► still a tab controller at the bottom which it's always been in which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► designed sense but it has the same appearance as the action bar in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► other apps true and again I think they're just assuming the users know by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► now I that's a big assumption I think that they may be right but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► it's like a serious change the other thing too is that the icons in this apt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► these are great icons like the radio icon I think it's great and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► looks like Helvetica like little knowledge of the type of the antenna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► yeah I do too as it gets a perfect example of gretna first design it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5094">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► that the icons warned ratified you know starting three years ago when the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► 4 came out but they were like ratified versions of the nine icons whereas these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► are red Nikon stars like this tiny little I mean you really have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► hold the phone close to my eyes to see it but there's like that little not mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► tenants great I love their records dexedrine the radio yeah I do to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► the parallax yeah yeah it's subtle way less in-your-face than the old Cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► Flow but its way nicer because it's not in your face it's not like showing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► lightly this it's you know it's cover flow but it's just a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► depth cue yeah and it and it also gives you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► a left-to-right cue as to where you are in the order and then the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► that is still cover flow like is this is the Safari type switching yes which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► like and you realize why I know they switch fart apps which includes the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► Safari switching is now the multitasking go right beside aside from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► big almost four screen to scroll through left to right it saw there were using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► that metaphor that card metaphor side to side for apps than they needed something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► new for taps right and then yeah i do remember you talking about this and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► they can get so many more of them on ones which is a good thing as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► have more than eight times which is always driving me crazy in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► Safari yeah and the other thing that this affords is a much nicer interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► to iCloud tabs which I use is a great feature because I'm its consulate think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► lake I'll have you know some article by somebody open and mostly red but if I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► to bed and wake up the next morning I cannot remember which device I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► on a dyno its open somewhere but I don't remember where it's really cool it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► of those examples of iCloud working like it should display like you know many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► complaints on Safari on my Mac there's a nice cloud button right in my toolbar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► click and it shows all the tabs open on all my devices in on the iPad there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► the same thing but the iPhone never had that button because it didn't have room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► for it I understand that in every room but what they might use to make you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► is going to your bookmarks leave whatever folder you were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► in switch to iCloud tabs folder to get to your iCloud tabs and then that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► meant that when you wanted to go to your regular bookmarks for your iPhone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► yeah where is this you just go to your tabs and it shows your tags that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► open on the phone and then scroll down a little bit further and it just shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► all the tabs open as a list on all of your devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► yeah I'm a big guy clubs we're getting there you know I mean I like I club for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► the stuff that it does well it's the third parties and stuff that it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► doesn't work well with but for the built-in Apple stuff is really starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► to work well I can't remember the last time and it may be years well over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► year two years that I've had a problem with something like contact syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► right now that I've entered the contact persons phone number but it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► synced across all my devices like and to me that I'll never not be magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► the fact that I can enter any contacts in my Mac instantaneously show on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► iPhone because we we know what it's like to have to say pilot here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► mcintosh like that sort of thing you do once a year like this it paid your taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► I get better soon he said the same thing within to Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► command center that was just horrible Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► some but not all of your information between the devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► new Safari with more than eight times as great as always beat me and I'm sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► you're complaining that they would get 28 and get that you were at and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► click a link like an email and it would go over and just erase I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► well it's the only one with the back button right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► well it's the only one with the back button right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► over David always know I don't think they gave you a back button when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► did that no way do they think that's how you would know which tower was got over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► it and then you have to make a choice I used to just throw my phone against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► wall that's how you get more than eight tenths of a weird thing when you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► throw at you can only slide it to the one side you have to slide it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► like I'm not quite sure why can't you slide it both ways I was there were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► do have been tapping little access you can just toss it over to the side too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► close to good I think there's a lot of discoverable stuff like that i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► like them it's kinda like the Mac in that way that there are a lot of tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► and tricks they are still going left gestures that are left to be discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► well and he was gonna be a long summer how do I think there's gonna be a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5452">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► baby I think I think we're going to see a lot of pages of this thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► this is the earliest we've ever seen something like this from Apple maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► except for the original public betas of Mac OS 10 back in like that like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► thousand or so yeah and I still think I think what we're seeing a sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► that version of it you know the one where there is the Apple logo in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► middle of the menu bar I think that's what that's what this is for the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► except that instead of you know having like two years to sort of polish it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► they've got about three months but you did a whole episode on the Apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► being center of the menu bar him 2010 you if I would have had a show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► would've sure thing in the world is gonna end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► I was younger people I just set up a new we got it we got a MacBook Air for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► in-house production area he's always been a Windows user and it still beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► me as you just as you just said that the menu bar comes translucent by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► yeah but they do that to people I don't know it is weird eh I find it weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► set up I still find it really hard to set up a new Mac yeah that's the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► you have to do like throwaway sound effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► yeah well you throw a sound effects oh absolutely 100 I cuz they drive me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► bonkers like the two call when you throw something away or the crumbling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► crumbling up of trash we have to do is yet to go into court audio services just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► to get to those files it's it's it's really not something you have to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► package contents but I do it like just a virtually every time I set up a new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► there's no preference for that there is a preference for 500 I hope there is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5574">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► I've just been spending like wasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► contest we got everybody out there helped him figure this out I would so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► knows command line all over the is it weird that a weird thing you know shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► should be almost over but is it weird that the Mac has sound effects for stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► like that but i OS doesn't seem like if any of them would have cutie sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxpFQsk/5602">TS</a>]