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I'm gonna play they've been working lately and when I got a lot of work on
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causing the fire I was going to guess that they have the same goes I have been
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butchering lady holes in the fire got a lot of coals in the fire lane if you
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have some understanding in insisting that the term is unique causing a fire
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so that you can put iron irons in there i think thats blacksmith thing or it
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could just be I don't know what you think that's the buxman thing right
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right but that doesn't make any sense to me that I'm trying to say is I'm working
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on multiple projects but it seems to me that just put in a lot more calls in
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here fire doesn't necessarily imply I know you're out you're absolutely saying
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it wrong
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irons in the fire we did and at the risk of making it seem like you work for a
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circus I think you might see a lot of balls in the air
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scenario maybe it's better to better really is a little bit more like a lot
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of balls on the ground all over the place
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okay that's a good when I heard one time my friend we're working at the dot-com
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right before the final implosion he said they're still in the stock market he
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said there's still a lot of grenades rolling around have always liked that
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one who had his baby got a lot of you know maybe get some grenades thrown
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around and maybe maybe you'll kick him out the door I don't know I can always
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tell like a lot of people I can tell when you're posting via mobile
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as you say but no you're you're you're putting less likely say seem that you
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have some goals and I know what you we don't talk enough but I assume you have
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colds or grenades
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you can talk about it for you I i calls you could sit out tha well you know I'm
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a student I can figure things out
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yeah yeah yeah you got less of the four-star posts lately I figure that's
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you know and into care but that's exciting this is that this is exciting
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goals plausible deniability
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but possibly exciting that I am calls and I don't know more when it's when
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it's time to review your goals you know I can I can do I can announce because
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the show hasn't while we're recording this is not been announced but by the
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time the show airs gonna do wanna do a live show at the WBC again wow at the
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yeah well now I now like last year to be you know it's not a officially
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sanctioned it would be incidental with WWDC life into a lot of your life shows
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during the BBC but it's usually in that one bar did it the one time at 1:11
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Minna no I didn't say it was recorded I just think that's a lot of hot wings in
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that place becomes lighters that's exciting now are you in a position to
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say when when that'll be in who will be visiting with you it's going to be on
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Tuesday I believe whatever the day of the month is in general is that what's
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it gonna be
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Tuesday Tuesday that the 11th Tuesday June 11 tickets there's you gotta have
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to go to a certain thing to go and take a taxi by the time you hear this the
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tickets will probably be gone but maybe not maybe you should go check you can go
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sure that by now there's a weird thing that probably announce it on
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i've a web site called during fireball if probably announced that they're
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linked to the place where you'll go to get the tickets and then you could go
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and and I would I did a really great time last year
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meeting the couple hundred fans of the show well i heard I first
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congratulations on selling out I also heard that a lot of people were
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disappointed that they couldn't get tickets and at the website was kind of
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unresponsive which I understand as you said briefly was not your fault for my
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shower for WBC that's awesome dean of the venue at a place called mezzanine
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SFA ever been there never been so it should be a little bigger than last year
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should have more seating than last year but it will still having an open bar
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like last year that's that's wow how great is it a this we have a couple
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sponsors for the show but we have a headline like a mainline event sponsor a
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big yea big ticket sponsor gonna be Microsoft's Azure web services mobile
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web services how great said gonna be to have a bunch of WBC nerds drinking on
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the gates is done it's coming right at the Gates Foundation you you're taking
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algebra straight out of children's mouths as if it were the flu shots were
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to what it was the Gates Foundation to the new flu shots right whether it's a
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malaria polio
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i think is new is on polio now that we know that you know what we did but we
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didn't hundred-percent eradicated and as his debts like he's been making the
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rounds and then you know god bless and guide you know I really do think he's
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doing great work on this front but it's that he's making the case that you
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really have to get to a hundred percent 99.9% eradication isn't good enough
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because you know twenty thirty years later all of a sudden you get these
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little many outbreaks like a parent lead you know it's heartbreaking but it does
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seem like there's more kids with polio right now than there were you know since
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jonas salk invented the
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the vaccine because there's more people get well I don't know and I guess
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because you know not every you know these idiots vaccinated and stuff like
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infographic which ones that you know I don't think so you know it started out
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saying graphic somebody didn't you know if a graphic and five bucks a good cup
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of coffee but it was a big bubble graphs to do they did it to do basically life
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before and after vaccines and liked what he really meant and you know this is
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breastfeeding and circumcision you know I guess so you know it's a little bit
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side to side a inside be really don't hold equal weight I don't have the same
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thing really gets to me I told i 100% agree with you when I was a kid you know
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my grandparents I i cant say that I recall any times are they SAT me down
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and told me you know that afternoon should be all about you know here's what
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life was like you know when I was your age at the turn of the last century i
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mean my grand my dad's dad was born in 1903 or something like that but I knew
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enough though that like having been born in like nineteen 0322 like have lived to
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be a grandfather in like the nineteen seventies with a bunch of grandkids and
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stuff that he he he died the lot of grenades you like people he knew got
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shot up in World Wars people got just walking down the street just pick up
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some polio and then next thing you know you know your legs don't work and that's
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you know that's the sort of thing that happened well yeah and also my
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grandmother was was one of the many people of her three siblings one of them
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died from the flu the flu epidemic when it went to one is going around but it
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also you get this this this craziness I think it was polio while sucking my
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wonderful mother lie about this and the time when I'm gonna get this wrong but
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it's a long lines it that they knew polly was a thing they knew there was
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really bad news but it was still I think someone someone or very unclear like how
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people got it
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and so you would just like to keep your kids in the house I guessed it was sort
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of maybe like the early days of aids like he didn't know there's a timely the
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people thought you got aids from you know I'm nitrates so you know in the
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early days of that stuff it's so frightening but your point yet during
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the depression for a variety of reasons or really anytime before this era were
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talking about you just have kids die and you just see the kids the kids and it's
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you know as somebody who had the opportunity our parents and grandparents
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had the opportunity to have their kids night have to deal with that sort of
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strange to look back at ya you know and I don't you know it shouldn't be
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political ads you know any sort of thing that should have united everybody but
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there is this you know like after world war two at the fifties sixties there is
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this just a sense that you know each time we click a decade forward we're
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gonna make great progress I'm gonna beat things like polio and and it was
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something to celebrate its like hey we beat this terrible thing that that's
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you know crippling us for decades and there was a celebration and everybody
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you know ran out and did it and it's like people just what goes through
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people's minds today I don't know what they think the world would be like
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without vaccination a post you a link post you had I'm gonna have two guests
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2008 2008 2008 but it was you cited a statistic that's maybe you remember the
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something like 25 percent of Americans long after he had been conclusively
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shown 22 baap urban myth or whatever that's only like 25 percent of americans
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still thought that Obama was not qualified to be president that he was
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like not american I don't know it's ridiculous the number but it was at the
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time you posted that it was it was at that time was like guys is there's
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nothing else to can be proven here to anybody who's not bananas it this is a
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thing it's your but you know but that's you know that's how it is I mean there
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there are always going to be people who are the most common that book that book
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don't think of an elephant there are there are people who have we all do we
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all have a frame of reference for understanding the world and there are
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certain people who use different kinds of information and to be honest gut
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feelings about how things go to a very emotional responses to things we we all
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have this but you know and and in that instance there's no amount of evidence
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that will convince people that that is incorrect because it's so closely
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comports with the frame of reference about how things really are and I think
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something really ties in to the way I think television in particular
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legitimizes anything that any vintage on TV's carries a legitimacy that isn't
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really wanted but it somehow it psychologically is and and famously I
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don't know if it was the Oprah show I think I might have been the Oprah show
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but it's the one on the vaccinations and Jenny McCarthy's then they brought out
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the actual science guy actually made like
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Carl Sagan style look I know this stuff like you know world literally one of
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them may be the top minds in the world
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vaccination medicine and and laid it out beautifully in layman's terms that there
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is absolutely zero scientific evidence that vaccinations lead to autism is no
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evidence and you know any more than he just said that he made the case he
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showed that there is no evidence and told about the studies that showed this
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and how the studies worked in that there's not even a dispute about it in
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the scientific terms this isn't even a dispute and Attorney Jenny McCarthy and
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she says well my son is my evidence was your son has autism is probably the last
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name for what she did that sounds like a return trip will end and you know I'm
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not a vaccine expert but it's my understanding puts it in your mind if
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your home and your your kid you love your kid right but it didn t drawn-out
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didn't know British Medical Society or whatever drum out the guy who's various
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study last year was the was the nominee all use this off I mean there is one
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thing that came out in England that was interesting about that in the back of
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the frame of reference thing because if it applies to everything from how people
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think about their inbox to have people think about Apple from my apple computer
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is that people is I think people come kind of preloaded any bit of cultural
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heritage cultural warfare but any kind of cultural opposition you know first of
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all let's just say we're all expected to pick a side about everything whatever
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but there are certain people who come out that with a certain point of you who
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are let's just say charitably going to cherry pick evidence to support their
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point of view and again that's probably something we all do but it's the part of
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it that I think a little bit lamentable is that it's one thing to say well I got
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said it I believe it that settles it like there's a certain that you that I
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you know I don't agree with that but I can respect that
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but when it comes to things we're like we have the evidence for this but no no
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as long as you're going through all this quote unquote science at me let me point
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at this study I heard about third-hand that disagrees with that so they feel
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like I think in that instance they feel they have more than enough basis to back
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up their emotion they didn't start out with the data I mean how many people
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even go out and read the abstract for something that not Gladwell's crying
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about to start it but through reading books actually this is stupid but I
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think you know we all do that we all look for evidence to support our own
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point of view and then get more and more sort of dug-in about it but I think I
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mentioned this a few weeks ago to there's also this this weird unfortunate
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aspect of human psychology where we forget the term but it's a loss
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avoidance that that you feel if I give you a dollar to hear there's a dollar
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and then I tossed a coin and comes up tails and they say well you lost I give
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me the dollar back you feel worse than if I tossed the coin first and it comes
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up tails and I say if it came up heads I have given you a dollar it's the exact
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same math right there is you know you've got a 50 percent chance of gaining a
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dollar in this incident but that you had in your hand and I took it away makes
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you feel wares and the way it plays into the vaccination things they do recycle
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polls that somebody did where they they like Paul parents and said I might get
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the numbers wrong here but more or less
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let's say there's a disease that there's one in a thousand chance that your child
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will get and if your child gets it it'll be fit but there's a vaccine that will
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make sure your child doesn't get it but if you give your child the vaccine
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there's one in 10,000 chance that the vaccine ok
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right if you just you know if you even just play the basic odds I mean if
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you're if your kid if your kid this is the support that you know if your kid
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swallow something and you're not sure if it's poison you know you probably call
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911 for the sake of argument you know what are the chances of that kid being
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really sick from poison forces were the chances that kid dying in an automobile
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accident on the way there's risk to everything you know what i mean it's
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like you don't have to wait you have to weigh all that do you weigh the risk of
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you know of a flying in a plane somewhere or of you know again so many
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things that are you know turns out culture so many things that are good for
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us and then back for a few member you member in the nineties when it was all
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about avoiding fat and say you go out and buy a snack box a snack wells you
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know which is basically like eating a bag of flour is just a green box green
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course it was really really way ahead of its time in the senate low-fat you oh
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great like I can eat like ninety of these you know or be honest we do know
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what's your position of plastic in the market are you dealing with this weird
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idea I'm dealing heavily with this in my household you know i i i do feel like
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why take a chance so we've actually you know I don't think we rushed out and and
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you know like immediately banned all plastic in the microwave but we while I
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say we it was really a me and i dont older stuff like this which we recently
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ordered like new all the stuff that you put leftovers in and then put it in the
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fridge we got this news
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dog last now only take something out of the fridge when heated up you already in
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like little glass things you don't have to put a clean it you know i mean when
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they make when they make a a class apart bag I'll start rethinking this if I
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can't put if I can't put saran wrap on a bowl of vegetables like a gentleman I'm
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not sure I want to live anymore
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he wanted to I don't really microwave alot of stuff cuz 'cause your right to
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say no you get a local shopping at Whole Foods there to get you get everything
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artists and and and then you you cook it
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know where I just wake up they drink fizzy water and coffee all day long and
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sugars is in desperate situation and I'm ready to pass out and then provides me
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with the night and sweet as I'm sure you have at some point we eventually each
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have interventions in our life I think one of the things I'll be forced to
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confront is the most of my day is built around which beverage i'm having like
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you don't even need a clock exactly how might I think the way you and I get
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along so yeah thanks a lot a lot of caffeine in the waking hours and then
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and then there's a long stretch in the middle filled with lots over carbonated
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water and then in the evening as you know some yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and I
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think as long as you keep those you know I it's sort of like the writer you got
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the you know you want to try and minimize the number of fats or whatever
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fats carbohydrates what's the other one and only food trying to say as long as
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you can keep the alcohol to less than a third of your waking hours I think even
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the FDA would say you're on the right track when you get to half of your day
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even at let's be honest even if its stagger through the day you can't start
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with it a little bit sheet or just an all-star with a lot like an Irish coffee
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in the morning of the amazing argue about that helped us your local families
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out of the house right I might be so mad at me on on st. Patrick's Day because
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she wanted an Irish coffee and we do I mean when I don't they have a gigantic
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liquor Collection in the house but it's not in any given time it's a
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well-stocked bar but we do not we did not have any Irish whiskey and and I
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said well you could just you know you can make an Irish coffee with bourbon
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cherries or something like the way some people are about martinis in vodka
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invention would say that it's absolutely not a martini it as a separate separate
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give fuller
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clicking noise and just for Scotch in there with what you do and I don't think
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I'm gonna get a Sunday this year we were out of town at the time and so we missed
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it it was a Sunday it was a Sunday so you and Pennsylvania's no booze on
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there's most of the liquor stores they're all state-run but most are not
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open at all on Sundays there is at least one within walking distance but my
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laws in New England it's it's very weird but I mean it seems strange to me that
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you know they would do this in highschool you know when she was a kid
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you can't liquor
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like little dry islands
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but she did you know you could drive over the next town like five minutes in
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there's a liquor store like right by the county line or the city line or whatever
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the seams it seems so odd it's in our neighborhood like New Years Eve you know
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people who don't drink often like you know like I New Years Eve every
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everybody thinks they're great drunk driver nobody can get drunk right and so
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everybody in our neighborhood which is a lot of ways people don't know their
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limits and pretty much our entire neighborhood is puking on on st.
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Patrick's Day which is a shame because I'm largely Irish and I think that's
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something you learn you know get a warm up you know you gotta keep going to
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practice you know Mariano Rivera didn't get good but just showing up and only
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got good by drinking she totally totally out now it's gone as he's he's going out
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right yes i guess i mean i recover from that really he he had a horrible bizarre
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freak knee injury last year you know in April and it was only did only shown up
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in nine games you know what I don't you call that thing but it is not the ACL
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but it's it's it's that is there anything you don't want to hurt ruptured
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practice and he wasn't doing anything like he's turned wrong or something what
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he does he's a pitcher but he's always done his whole career is before games
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it's called shagging flies where he's out in the outfield and a guy you know
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at home plate as is taking batting practice just hitting real deep fly
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balls all the way from home plate out to the outfield wall and he run you know
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runs out to them and catches him and he was just running after a deep fly ball
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and just took like a funny step on the
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there's always a warning track before the walls you know like the grass right
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well it's like maybe like a 10 foot wide patch of dirt or something around the
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walls so if you're an outfielder running toward the wall and all you have to do
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is no I'm not on grass anymore so I know I'm near the law took one step on it
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just like a look funny stuff and just snapped ligament or tendon whatever it
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is in his name so he was out you know how to have that surgically repaired is
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43 years old and and a parent you know the idea of what you know he didn't say
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officially but everybody seems to think that last year he was planning to be his
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last year and and he just didn't want to go down you know go out like that so he
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did all the work to rehab is back this year and he's amazing he's 43 years old
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complete ligament tear in his need a year ago and at this point he's appeared
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in 16 games and 16 saves well raised as a relief pitcher does it matter it
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doesn't like around two which is that's insane he says there's like maybe three
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people in sports in the last 10 years that I would sit around and watch and
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he's one of them a place that video opposes
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track is breaking pitch yeah it's it's it's hard to be a grown up and then
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realize how many things around all day right we we we pick up our day by
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beverage would push to the internet and then we don't think that much about how
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really close we are to basically being ruined all the time you know we go out
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and stand by a street where cars are going by you know forty or sixty miles
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an hour I get on this multi-time train that's being driven by a crazy person
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and I don't think about like how closely I'm dying all the time and in that
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instance of what could be more like a freak accident and that guy's
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admittedly as you say he's he's not a young man but still you know he needs
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every part of his body to be working to do what he does
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is amazing and it's one of those things right now that you know I post stuff
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occasionally to my website and a lot of people during fire ball as it is but the
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Mariana Rivera stuff I often when I do I often getting mail from people who like
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say I don't even know the rules of baseball but that's amazing that thing
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that letting last year with the New York Times had the thing that tracked his
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pitches was given our good friend guy English who lives in Montreal and said I
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get don't even hardly even know the rules of baseball but he was like that
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was amazing
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well i i think that sports team might have played our sports team in an
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important event a few years ago one of the local sports teams play the Yankees
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sports team and we watched it and it was my first exposure to that guy and I have
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no allegiance to anything in sports apart from enjoying it but watching that
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guy pitch what it's like wats rush like yitzhak pearlman or something
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wearing a month you're just sitting there and you going how how is this
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happening and I mention this on punt on the back to work for him
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couple shows ago but like the thing i really admire about that guy is how
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steely he is a seemingly unknown but he can't be unhinged serene yeah I guess so
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but like yeah that's a good word for it he is really the sort of guy but there
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is something almost mystical about him he has a serenity to him that is
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inspiring honestly he's just very different there is something very very
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different about him and he can he can come up there and just throw impossible
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pitch after impossible pitch and then finally somebody hits it impossible to
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reach and gets gets like a two-run homer and then he goes straight back to
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throwing impossible pitches and that to me is a model that if if I could one
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pattern of grit to my life it would be the ability to do that instead of
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sitting and crying like a little girl when the slightest thing goes wrong that
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you know what I mean like that's it is it is inspiration both family involved
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but like to me that that's the thing is to look at somebody like that there's
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nothing to say about Tiger Woods is a golfer they used to say
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you know that you don't start you don't practice less when you become a pro you
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practice more and I don't know I think it's inspiring yeah and he's weird thing
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too is that he plays the position is for those who don't follow baseball it's
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fairly easy concept as you know your picture and most pitches you think of
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the guys is the guy who starts the game and you first inning you're you're the
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picture in your pitch until your arm gets tired and then other guys come in
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this like this like a pretty average issue number like they'll start with 60
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pitches like you to certain that you go wow this guy still in there and he's
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throwing this many pitches yeah like sixty seventy is when you start thinking
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let's keep an eye on that he's really on the right side of the curve at that
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point and then a hundred is generally considered in the modern game is
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considered a lot the old days they would fit into their arms fell off and then
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you know but in general the starting pitchers of the best pitchers and then
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the relief pitchers are guys who were good but really good in small doses or a
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really good in particular situations like this guy gets out left-handers and
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you just bring them in
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against a left-handed guy and then you take amounted to much more defensive
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kind of pitching in some ways ya situational i think is you know in the
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modern game is that you bring in these guys for certain situations but then you
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get all the way to the end of the pitching staff and almost every team has
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a guy that they called the closer and thats Mariano Rivera and that's a guy
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who you only bring in when you have a lead and it's a small lead because if
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it's a big lead you don't bother wasting them because you don't want to be too
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tired for the next day but I forget that there's a stat called the save and I
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think the save is if you can only get a save as a picture if the tying run comes
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to the on-deck circle of the tying run is going to come up next
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you can get a save so it's gotta be you know to three runs or something like
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that it's it's stupid stat really but in other words though you only come in in
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the ninth inning the last inning in a game where your team has a narrow lead
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so every inning that the guy pitches in general I mean every once in a while if
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he goes like a week without coming in
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there wasn't a save situation to bring them in because it you know they don't
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want to go a week without ever throwing but in general the closer only comes in
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in a high-pressure situation and the only other suitcase when you bring her
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closer and would be at home in a tie game so any gamer your team as a narrow
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lead in the last inning or a or a tie in the in home game is when you come in and
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so it tends to the home team you would give one more appt right so it's you
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know any kind of professional sports is obviously a lot of pressure involved in
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the thousands of fans and and all this attention and stuff like that and I'm
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not saying if you're a starting pitcher and it's the third inning of just one of
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a hundred and sixty two games in May
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you know in this season and it's a middle of May and a long season ahead of
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you that you know that the third inning of any one particular game isn't high
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pressure but you know come on baseball's a little you know where is the closer is
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always high pressure and so it tends to attract personalities like what's his
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name out there in your town the beard that appeared I don't know these
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nationally guys but you know i mean these guys who are eccentrics guys who
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are very very high strung you know wild characters and they don't tend to last
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very long and it tends to be guys who can throw the ball exceedingly hard and
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fast and then you know they burn out because it's such a high-pressure
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situation Mariano Rivera's been doing it for sixteen or seventeen years which is
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just it's just unprecedented like being I don't know like like you know the bomb
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squad or something especially today and thanks for getting me into my area of
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expertise which sports bra but you're right into it thank you thank you can we
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get back to vaccines after this by the way breastfeeding terrible idea
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you guys I read a thing turns out formula actually formula and putting
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your child into a dryer literally the dryer at your home put it in there don't
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turn it on and leave a crack in it but just given formula we find this is
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apparently especially true it's true in baseball is true everything I hear is
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that it's extremely true football is getting bigger faster than getting
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better better trained and you have to be more why are we talking about you have
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to be so much more
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really truly athletic then look at babe ruth i mean babe ruth babe ruth wouldn't
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be able to survive a whole game handing out peanuts today you know he's you know
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a slugger as they say in another slugger always connote
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you also strike out a lot that you also in in the sense that you you if you hit
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your gonna hit real far it doesn't always connote that I think average
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would be the amount of times that you're able two counts as it was a home run
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know it's the number of bases you get out of it so in other words I guess
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loggerheads more double not just home runs but doubles and triples but I mean
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the athleticism being being a football player today you know the the escalating
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changes in the technology and the training and all of that stuff you know
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it's it's also to some extent room baseball where as you say you would have
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temperance baseballs fifteen hit but Christie Christie Brinkley with a with a
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baseball player Christy Turlington
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Christy Turlington or or goose Gossage or Rollie Fingers anyway you could be
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somebody right mustache man he was the Rolaids relief man of the year
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memories remember that were kids yeah yeah I do responsibly Rolaids Christy
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Mathewson guy I love PBS and baseball but 1889 I'm sure I'm going with this
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except that that but today it seems like it must be it always seemed so I
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actually did hear this one time was waiting for a hot dog and everything I
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know about TV basically comes from tumblr and where I get my hot dog
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and they said Safi said something like described one of the people playing the
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game as being being extremely athletic and that's it still bothers me but you
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know athleticism obviously it's more than just simply being an athlete and is
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why it is so funny to even to even win I guess Utoya where we were kids we want
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you back you watch one of the things I can still has this place to buy this and
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they'll be like old games you could watch on iTunes here i mean like I went
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and bought the Reds vs the Red Sox 75 World Series game I think it what time
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you going by the monomer Reggie Jackson hit 40 home runs or whatever in that one
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game but it's so strange to see what those people look like you remember
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fernando valenzuela yep or was it someone Letterman used to make fun was a
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film niekro is warning that I mean the kind of the compound sir you know that
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valenzuela guy who can cut your lawn he was short he was he was pulled its John
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races but that it yet today you see these guys and it's just the level of
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training that people get and again it's a Gulf Wars week we can we can prevent
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Barkley like when you at first when it first thought that was really big but
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that guy was just funny as hell was he didn't look like that like Wilt
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tall both of them are six foot nine so I mean that's that's that's right larry
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bird was that tall Larry Bird and Magic Johnson both six-foot nightly also you
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each other pros they were the exact same height 69 which is very very tall but
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you know you look at pictures of them from their heyday and they're kinda like
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string bean type guys where is the NBA players now they're ripped like become
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more physical and that time to think you know it's I don't know I don't know when
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chilly becoming a lot faster than it used to be I definitely think so and i
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think that I did and I think that the guys you know to keep up the day really
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you know I work out like nonstop in between games I don't know I mean most
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of what I know about again most of what I know about tennis comes from watching
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my mother play in reading David Foster Wallace but I will tell you this
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watching C Bjorn Borg and John McEnroe in 1984 says Washington is today it
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feels like a completely different fare is so many Asus now there's just so much
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kind of fun to watch it would be like watching a hockey game where it's all
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about the puck from the from the other side of the net on the other side you
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look well I kinda like the following you know that's kind of what makes that's
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what makes soccer to me one of the most interesting
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things to watch . is that is extremely athletic they're running for whatever
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ninety minutes however long it is and they're moving that whole time and and
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everybody's involved almost all the time
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yeah I have to ask you can you can parlay this american pie or spending
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also talking about sports but but I i have asked questions I would like to get
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it before we leave but we could we could parlay that into something like a
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back-to-work type you know collaboration type thing about basketball is
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definitely a sport where if you have one guy in the team who's an asshole that
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matter how good the team is your probably gonna lose the team one guy on
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the court who doesn't get along with the other four and and it that more talented
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team might lose if he's not on the same page in terms of snowing like like which
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which kind of Defense we gonna play and stuff like that but like you know with
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five people on your team like you each have to be giving at least 20% rate I
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mean you've got to be thinking so many moves ahead cuz you're going to be
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called upon to do even if you don't handle the ball great football
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everybody's got a guide to protect but in that instance like your your you have
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to be taking so many moves ahead and so quickly and based on communicating so
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well and knowing the patterns of what the other guys are likely to do that
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you're gonna be in the right place at the right time to a sponsor break would
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be great detail about how lucky I famously I I don't do this on purpose I
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really don't I don't know how to pronounce a lot of words so I can I just
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it out of the context of that product I would say mail route but I think mail
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route scans better yeah but i dont wanna say mail route because then I don't want
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people to go and google it and spell it R 00 T that's like saying pin number
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just a pin
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juncture cases happy but people may not know what you mean you see him number
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there's no ambiguity exactly but I'm all over the place on this casarse route 66
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well look mel r out or rude if you prefer but it's spelled with you it's a
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super super simple service and it's all based on the fact that email is still
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the number one way that everybody gets in touch with each other we've got all
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the different messaging stuff like that but lucky mouse told everybody knows
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that it's the thing we use the most
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here's the most amazing statistic ninety percent of every email sent on the
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internet as spam and I don't think for me it's got to be more than 90% of what
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mail route does it from the team that created Microsoft Forefront these guys
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have a long history of of great email services
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you take your domain
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your email for your domain you set your MX records 2.2 Mail Airmail goes their
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first goes through their filters then it comes to your mail server takes about a
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second per message so your mail is delayed by one second I mean if that
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bothers you then get stopped listening to my show listen to much you think
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that's a problem
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their spam filtering takes all the spam out and it just goes right in and it can
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take a domain or an email address that is inundated with spam and make it
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usable again and it's just phenomenal and you go to their website and read
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about and they tell you how they do it there's no magic involved right it's
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it's really really smart clever stuff I talked about this last week I love this
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idea they have this greatest thing which is what they do is out proper mail
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server you have a good clean mail server you contact me a mail server your mail
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server you contact me you say I have a message for John Gruber I can say hey
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I'm not ready to take this message right now come back in a minute and then you
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as a proper mail server will be ready to handle that that's a normal situation in
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email communication in a minute later you'll say hey I'm back I've got that
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message for John Gruber ok here I go and I'll take it and I'll put it in the box
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for that account
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thing doesn't work with all the machines that send spam which almost all of them
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been taken over by now we're and stuff like that they just blast the spam out
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thousands and thousands of messages a minute and never come back to it right
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they deserve a big list of emails they blasted out so this little just this is
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one of the ways that takes the spam out but I to me that's brilliant because it
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not even getting to the point of doing the sort of Bayesian analysis and
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looking at keywords and you know you know a grand the subject in all of this
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sort of analysis it's just a simple but to me it's such a great trick of getting
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on top of that from the outside and you know it's also the sort of thing that's
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never going to flag a good message the wrong way so it's a great service they
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match pricing on Postini or forefront all you have to do your interest in this
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go to check them out its mail route died in that round dot net dot dot com dot
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net just like Darren fireball that check them out and if you go to mail route
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dotnet / the talk show even a little better because then I know you came from
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the show without you I like that without you can see here's the question number
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what's on your mind as you're potentially career-ending injury now
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you've already had a close call but about a year or two ago you had a very
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close call for somebody who types and doesn't want to talk to the computer
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through Pearl by John Siracusa you you had to have what could have almost been
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a career-ending injury I like you think even broader
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you could you talk about your hand what's a career ending injury what is a
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Mariano Rivera need her
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hair look like I would say I'm gonna give you notice your show but it seems
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to me that could be something happens at Whole Foods it could be something
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happens at the liquor store your artist you gotta go abroad head injury
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obviously comes to mind but there's a top man you don't want that you should
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wear a helmet when you were a head injury but obviously I mean I think that
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would take a lot of people assume you've already had one
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well maybe you know you know like one of those movies where the guy gets cummed
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on the head and gets a super power and then he gets Congdon had again it goes
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away regardless you know even if even if my success is due to a previous head
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injury a subsequent one might take it away and I would guess secondarily I
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think I would do really poorly if I lost my sight I think a lot of what I care
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about and write about is what I see if you got that I want to mention it but
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the diagnostic is easy to get the macular degeneration
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you know about that we are you certain losing your vision from the Middle you
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know what it's actually know a lot about it because
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website for foundation really for macular degeneration to get them some
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money that scare the pants off me I had pants I was actually founded by a guy
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who invented the Chicken McNugget stop I swear I got his wife about that kind in
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PR and he sold the idea to McDonalds right now but said they had all these
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parts that all these parts didn't know what to do with and they made nuggets
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and he wasn't one of those things where he sold the idea for 15 bucks it was
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like he sold the idea had some like equity in it and that's that guy came up
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with the automatic windshield wipers you know that guy got the shaft the guy who
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invented
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to be two speeds slow and fast and this guy invented the little clock on the
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thing and yeah you could you could say wait 3 seconds
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yeah I love that guy got a sandwich out of it like maybe maybe have much left
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over like tuna fish sandwich now when when you build on that and his wife came
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down with the macular degeneration and so he devoted the fortunate it made 22
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trying to find a cure finds help in Jamesburg think the whole connections
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episode about that how we get to diagnose disease that's that's that's a
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really cool story and it really is it's sort of like the worst way to lose your
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vision you lose it from the center out and of course the center is exactly you
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know it seems like it would be maddening as bad as it would be the start losing
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your peripheral vision will you should look at the things you want to look at
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by turning your red dress macular degeneration that's a cute you lose
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exactly what you're talking about but yeah I think I would think that would
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hurt my work you made your bones if I may say such as they are with with the
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during fireball site it seems to have talked about this I forget you
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elsewhere but I feel like you made your reputation
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a time when Paul was not certain that the Apple that they are now but where it
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was four people had every reason in the world to be suspicious about whether
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Apple was gonna survive was gonna turn into something and and then Apple you
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know better and you were there for that I mean you must wonder i guess im
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wondering was there ever a time when that felt like a career-ending injury on
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the horizon like given that I mean like given that you make your career really
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started at a time when you could provide a same counterpoint the people you know
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who were constantly announcing the death of Apple did you worry when I started
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getting better I mean it's cool because you're not the guy he like Apple but did
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you ever worry that they could too good and you don't have a job anymore
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no i i do I i will say though that I worried you know that's I don't know
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what's more statistically likely some kind of in probably an injury to me or
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something like that but I do worry though that if if Apple does stop being
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popular in suffers their next 10 years our decline instead of the last ten
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years which is great a scent that it would bode poorly for you know the
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sponsorship in ad revenue that I use you know primarily to turn my living but on
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the other hand I thought from the outset I never you know we've talked about this
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I never really set out just to write about Apple I set out to write about
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whatever is on my mind for the last ten years an awful lot of what's been on my
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mind is what Apple's up to Apple got to me the worst will be available got
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boring that's that's was gonna say yeah was gonna be my guest is the obvious
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get booked on the head you get a power goes away at opposite wouldn't just be a
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matter of Apple sucks Apple's really doing great couple sex again that the
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big concern would be without mentioning names a lot of companies that I think
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you and I have had a lot of respect for over the years simply got big and
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contracted and got boring and got weird and even if they just got boring it
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wouldn't be fun I mean the rumors rumors I here are that it's
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it is getting harder to retain practitioner and manager talent at apple
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just because there's not a Steve thing necessarily but that there is a sense
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that the most interesting problems at this point may have been solved
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you know that's just what I hear I don't that's accurate or not but you know how
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to certain point every company is gonna have to get if they're lucky they get
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big enough to where it is about scale and it is about a different kind of
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problem so the problem is going from my iPhone another problem but the somebody
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a company that can go from the iPhone to the iPad in three years is saying but
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you know making it easier for me to not have my Apple tibi tibi broken for two
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weeks is not as interesting of a headline but there's an awful lot of
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kids taking you know just just just not exciting work but just hard work that I
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Apple obviously has to do over the next few years just to sustain the iPhone and
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iPad in the stuff they already have that which is not the sort of exciting stuff
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that the real a-plus superstar Mariano Rivera type engineers and designers want
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to be doing right you know I mean somebody at Apple over the next three
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four five years one person that obviously there's a team is obviously
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just gonna spend an awful lot the time just like correcting the names of parks
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and putting the post office on the right side of the street and all the map data
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rate there's you know it's not exciting work like new said like somebody's got
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heart problems and then the stuff that Apple that a lot of people in there are
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haven't gotten a lot of people would like them to be with things like web
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services and boy is that ever gonna not seem super interesting to have a
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headline about uptime Justin Williams Show Justin Williams guess that's why I
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was actually thinking of his whole areas that I will be home to it I will add
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it's all good things and all the things that Apple although it wasn't all the
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things that Apple needs to announce at WWDC right in three weeks the internet
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in a couple of our little jokey but for the most part it's pretty serious and
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obviously they're not going to announce all it's not only the beauty of it is
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it's not just a few people go it'd be neat if they made a blue iPhone as much
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stuff like that it's stuff like this if you hear people saying the the success
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rides on what you have in front of it
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is good man everything happen needs introducing WBC to appease the internet
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completely refreshed design language for iOS 7 modernize an updated system apps
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for iOS that match the new design language etc
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multiple people on FaceTime calls an update I message that makes a reliable
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really good features right i mean it's along listen as little as you heard a
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lot of people actually say it's really liked it sticking it's just that I'm not
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saying that it's there's no satisfaction in doing it but it's not exciting you
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know it is it's a sort of thing where it's hard to keep you know you're a plus
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guys working on something like that as opposed to working on going off on her
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own and doing something new with you when you were a developer I was never I
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was never like a real developer but I mean even even making web pages which is
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what I really did he was so much more interesting to me to get to do to make a
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design to do the UX I mean I was the fun bringing stuff and then a satisfying
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even all the way down to do production graphics was always really fun for me I
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really liked all of that but then something like okay well we're moving to
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this different content management system and now we're gonna have to change and
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change these variables in these things were going to have to certainly find
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replace but I always go for the guys to the real developing it was never that
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fun to have to take the code base and go make it work in this different place for
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total but did you ever experienced that like it's one thing to get to write this
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script that does a thing and then it's another thing to have to go all did you
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do this like scrubbing with a toothbrush to try and make this thing a little
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better it's not well and that's why I admire the developers like bare-bones
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software or the Omni group who
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who build apps and then spend years iterating an interesting and iterating
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and keeping them up-to-date and keeping them relevant whereas the most exciting
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part is the original version right
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BBEdit you know 1.0 is the one that was the most exciting you know actually 22
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points 2.1 was the first public version that's that's that's all 44 until I got
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a WYSIWYG editor that is literally starting in 1995 those are pretty much
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that's all I used to make web pages was it just be used includes when they came
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anniversary of the first public version of BB at it he said in its first three
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days away from the first public griping about the practice but I think that
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twenty years working on an editor that is still one of the top most relevant
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programming text editors for the Mac right and I just salute that because it
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is you know most of those twenty years most of those twenty days and 20 years
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retrievals been working on the app and most of those days of not been exciting
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work it's just hard work you know and same with you know the group's another
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great example where these these guys have been working on this web stuff so
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hard you know I again companies I work with again a job it's the stuff that
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they sweat that you will hopefully never notice how hard they sweated it and you
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have no I mean nothing new to this year the user you the Apple fan you're used
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to you are wonderfully lucky and you're fortunate to not have to notice how good
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this is but it is it is difficult work and in the case of some of these things
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he's he's certainly been around when you have to do a giant teardown of something
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to do you know where it's almost like a western town where all you see as the
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viewer are are the fronts of these stores but sometimes you know
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but some like Snow Leopard something to talk about this on the accidental tech
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podcast to tick tock tick thing is that a real term with a making that up now
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that that's a real turn like every something like roughly every other stain
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release is that right but has had some seniors but certainly Snow Leopard was
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very controversial in some ways because 22 somebody a simpleton like me you can
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ok well where's where's the publish and subscribe
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where is the theming I'm sure you know what I mean like what wears these as in
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this but knowing if you can actually read what happened there so that they
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tore the guts out and change so much stuff about that right it's it was not a
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trivial thing with just being lazy it's just that we couldn't as a user you
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shouldn't notice how much changed about it right right and it was a tough thing
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to sell I think because of what people expect from Apple's people expect you
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know everything every time a positive end they expect steve Jobs pulling the
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iPhone out of his pocket and blowing at the world away with something that seems
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like it's literally from five to ten years in the future and then instead
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they said well we went into the guts and we cleaned out a lot of the junk and we
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modernize the plumbing and somehow pits did in a way that that didn't have
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people you know works I do think though that its exact sort of thing that they
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could not get away with today maybe a couple of years but right now at this
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fever pitch of sort of you know Apple can't do anything without Steve Jobs
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doom and gloom they couldn't they couldn't do that today
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now now I think you're right but it's yeah I did so in terms of career ending
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injury I think you'll still have a very long live careers only picked ahead and
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let your
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related to the cooking but you know my career ending injury I think I've
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already had most of them and that's why do i do i mean this isn't much of a
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career John but you know so they could always go wrong it had a tensioner for a
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while and so that's that's that's probably good doctor about that but what
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about your voice
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see i three d-iii sound like somebody trying to throw a clarinet but what
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about if you got like this Larry Page old instrument yeah yeah yeah yeah he s
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got till it's got delbert what's-his-name
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Gilbert he's been he's been diagnosing him remotely did you know that now you
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know Scott Elbert the Dilbert guys got out of you hehe he's pretty sure he
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knows with Larry Page has caused kathy has something very similar and it sounds
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and other one it's it's it's like the vocal person generation it's in the
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listings that sounds just awful when Rush Limbaugh had had the hearing thing
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that's where I live in fear of his waking up one day and and it's like
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something out of kafka story you know I wouldn't mind waking up as a road show
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me my office is already pretty good environment for that but you know it's
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as you get older and your body starts working with less dependability and
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symmetry he is a day when I wake up and don't understand how rush limbaugh does
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what he does him he's he's like legally death is that is is it so they didn't
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they couldn't fix that he's so I mean he's not likes to stone cold death but I
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think he's effectively death but yet somehow does for our daily radio show
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the Jets intended to make that that's that's actually really amazing that you
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know me to be able to continue doing that you know it just seems to me like
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you would do poorly if I got the vocal cord thing I may have to stop doing this
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show so if I lost my voice like I have to go back to not writing or not
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web developing yeah that see that will be a hard move for me this is pretty
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much on time comfortable to me is beyond 34 podcast today so I'm gonna make a
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possibly and I don't mean this to be disparaging now is not take any notes he
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gave me john shirt with the Larry Page thing did you see him did you seem
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talked the other day now and I you know it's off to him you know it came out the
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day before I O The Post and just said look here's what's been going on with my
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boys for the last year
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and and you know that he did you know that they don't know what the causes but
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he lost his left use of his left vocal cord while back and then the same thing
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couple years later the same things started happening to his right vocal
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cord but it's not complete but its left him his voices couple people described
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as frog it's not you know it makes it so it makes them quietly needed like a
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different microphone on stage but he did well and and and as as his stint in
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animals on stage it was a very long they were up there for over four hours but he
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was on for only 45 minutes and his voice was to me it seemed stronger at the end
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when he first came out but it does remind me of the way that like in the
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bond James Bond movies that the Bond villain usually has some kind of very
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unusual and distinct physiological
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car felt like a metal claws for hands you know and I feel like it adds a sort
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of Bond villain aspect to Larry Page is that what you know the thing is you know
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the other thing is like he's got a lot to do if he were to get a clock hand I
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think that would make me very distinctive for example I would know
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that it's him versus the other guy I don't know he's also proposing to me
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some sort of Bond villain ask grandiose things like hehe no I Larry pagey
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offhandedly said look there's a you know it would be nice if technologists had
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her own special island we can have our own laws and we could try out new things
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that maybe the real world isn't ready for yet
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you know we could get rid of all these pesky regulations on medical records and
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stuff like that and see what happens if Google can have access to everybody's
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medical records in this controlled environment is no way where I'm at home
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I have bookmarked ready he's he's basically in this in this dystopian in
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this utopian environment we would finally get to do what our league of
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developers would really love to do we want to get our hands on this
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information so we can do it right and it you know when you start talking about
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setting up islands like Cobra Commander right there's no question about it at
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that time the Cobra Commander they like set off a new band and the Gulf of
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Mexico and it made it an island rise up and then they planted a cobra flag on it
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and boom had a country it was that easy easy but if you want you put your flight
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on the land and answers and they made new land line of comics fan but when you
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get chance Google for magneto engine osha as it sounds a little bit like this
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X Men villain who on a variety of occasions he started his own meteor at
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one point he had a utopia and dystopia if you like for these things that sounds
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kinda like what you're talking about it does to me like this fellow is just a
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little bit away from a purple metal hood and maybe some laser beam sharks
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unless be honest John like milk law notwithstanding he's got to go he's got
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the dough and he's got the developers they could be again in my parlance it
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would be more like Hydra when your case of these GI Joe solace he could
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certainly have his own standing army of people wearing Google glass Google glass
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perfect for the future
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self-driving cars right with a couple of guns on the self-driving cars and you've
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got an army oh you gotta cut all this out I think you know I think about this
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now because there is so much they're so he's going to get all the information
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he's got the standing armies got an island he may have a cloth armor pretty
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sure he may eventually have a cool synthesized voice all he needs now is he
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needs some kind of an affectation like again maybe he's really into playing
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competitive chess or maybe get a bullwhip he should have something that
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he could put into the electronic law that would give him the comedian if you
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an action figure of it right if you had if you had something where you could
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make an action figure
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him data in one hand and within the other austerity policies that is what
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would you date a guy come up with says you could just go out and get to know
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name right there would be only the second sponsor our second sponsor you
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guys know they're great they've been here for a while Squarespace man
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Squarespace is just killin it I keep running into sites that are built with
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Squarespace and they've blown away everything you need to do to build a
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great modern web site you can get it Squarespace they do everything from the
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domain registration to providing you with a huge number of really beautiful
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it was perfect on that
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all the details you can get in there and the CCSS if you want to delay out if
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drag-and-drop and doing it all visually and plugging in your social media stuff
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you can get your Twitter to show up in the side anything like that
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anything you might wanna do they've got e-commerce now so you don't have to do
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your own credit card processing and stuff like that so you can set up your
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own store it's a great way to set up a blog it's a great way to set up any
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almost any website you can imagine it's a blow me away with the stuff that
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they're doing what you do to what do you want to find out more go to the website
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the digit the numeral Arabic numeral five and that just let him know that I
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think it's because it's the fifth time they've been up as a sponsor on the show
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yeah I'm thinking about that all day we met when I'm wrapped around a little
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while I think with a little preparation we could come up with a pretty good
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pitch pitch that idea and the thing is if you're super villain you know you're
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super villain it's looking like an Avengers Iron Man spoilers but Iron Man
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figures out the look is a lot like him right he figures out that part of the
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thing with low key as he wants to be seen doing he wants he wants to be
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noticed so maybe it's the kind of thing where Larry Page but actually find
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himself maybe as an infomercial for page island
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yeah maybe that's a better now and even to the Bond villain because of buying
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don't always have some kind of dastardly plot to take over the world and you know
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it's something that needs to be stopped whereas a comic book it's you got it you
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got a long term it's a saga right you know a bond thing is gonna get wrapped
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up in two hours in the guys probably gonna be dead where is the comic book
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thing is gonna go on for twenty thirty years as gonna say right talking about
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Google twenty years from now and Larry Page is probably still going to be the
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CEO on the different kinds of different kinds of super villains whether Tim bond
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or whether it's in whatever and I think as with a lot of Eli preferences in
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certain kinds of time travel time line ideas I think in this case everybody's
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different kinds of villains that they really like you got you some classics
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you got you got the villain who has a grudge rate it could be somebody like
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you know oh he wants to get that spider-man because he's so much cooler
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than him it is always the money villain there is no goldfinger do you think he's
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he's kind of a straight-up money villain right yeah he he wanted the money you
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got the you got the net what about what about the guy from the country for old
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men he he's he is he's a revenge gradual
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is a code of honor this going back he's going back after M 44 what she did to
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his job right
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ok that's great I mean like three times and then you got to get that kind of
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course you've always got the the anarchistic know you've got the
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sociopaths psychotic kind of person who just wants to cause me
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Joker in the Dark Knight give a sense of not seeing very pages a super villain
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with a clock for him but if he would if you were if he were what would the
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nature of his villainy does he doesn't have to be evil you know I would say I
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would say he's the misguided utopia and he actually it does not I do not believe
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that he is
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a bad person he has bad intentions I actually think that he truly is utopian
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with the best interests
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magneto is him that's that's assuming but he's but he is I think misguided and
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erroneous and that it's a you know you know dr. Frankenstein that good
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intentions that's a good point so if you you could you could even with the best
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intentions and a self-driving island and everybody wearing a pair of glasses she
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could create an environment it seems like everybody would be happy even if
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you're not allowed to live on the island like it would be better to like and what
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I say by that is that it would be better if I'm wrong and that he gets everything
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he wants and it works out the way he's saying because that would actually be
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great for everybody
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yeah right what i'm saying is that I think what I think is that this stuff is
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just going to be a disaster in terms of privacy and other aspects like that and
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that the utopian things aren't gonna it's hard it's hard to say right now for
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me it's hard to see how it turns out great you know but you know as churchill
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said you know history is written by the guys with the plans we only have a
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minute or two but I do think there is something weird going on I feel you know
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and I feel like the tech stuff goes through great cycles and it's what makes
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it such an interesting thing to write about and I do feel like reaching this
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inflection point where things are dividing and and the Google glass really
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as much as it right now it's just a curiosity that there's only a couple
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thousand pairs that haven't put out people's hands and they cost us
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ridiculous amount and they're not trying to sell it to the mass market but it
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it's clearly one of the most divisive things that come out in ever since I've
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been writing about technology right and Nick Nick Bilton great piece in the New
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York Times today he's at the Google i/o conference
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which ended this place he says there might be you know it seems as though
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there maybe even a thousand people here wearing right so instead of like where
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where people out in the valley on San Francisco hey I actually saw a guy at
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the Peet's joined the other day wearing Google glass wow I saw somebody here if
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you go to the loan you go to Google i/o and there's a thousand people where he
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you know Nick Bilton really seem to its great piece up shown it but it really
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seems like you know it's it's a divergence
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he had this thing where he was talking to a guy who's talking about how great
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the winky APIs which is the actual name of the app takes a photo by a nice
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gesture
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writer and the guy was saying he's addicted to it and that he wasn't
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wearing his glasses other day and he was winking to take a picture and nothing
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happened and he realized that his brains been wired that he just assumed that
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when he wakes he's gonna get a pic and so yeah and then builtin says and then I
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gotta go to the restroom I'm gonna go take a leak and get away from this for a
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little bit and he went in and it's you know it's a tech conference the line
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again in the men's room as long you gotta wait wait wait and then he goes to
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take a leak and he looks and the four guys next to him all wearing glass and
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all sort of looking around whether taking the lead in iran right and that
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that's something that's weird thats
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indicate the activity is there anything like a rhetoric is nothing to indicate
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what's happening inside the glass to somebody who's not wearing and you have
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no idea man well you know I think you know I think you're right thing I think
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you're right it's it's it's hard to tell until the time is past like one
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something important has happened to me think something important happened but
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you know he seemed like a really big deal when Google search came out because
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as a consumer we saw how different that was even from me at the time amazing
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AltaVista
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but the real story in some ways was advertising like what make Google Google
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in some ways I think we could probably agree is advertising the search was
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great but I wonder if there's a part of me that really does wonder if Google
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glass will be that thing but here's the thing about sauce for the gander I've
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been roundly criticized by many of my friends house skeptical am about lauding
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products before they've come out I think it's pretty interesting the number of
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people i've seen
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and again this is this is just don't follow the stuff as you know but in the
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aggregate there are a lot of people including me who are little bit freaked
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out the whole notion of it and the fact that it's tied to Google who's already
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getting freaky but given the massive number of people have talked about that
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I think it's also pretty interesting that how many people are saying oh but
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once you put him on its pretty cool have you heard people say that I have and
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it's interesting though it's like we always talk about our products you can
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sell you one about it but it's a hold in your hand use it for a couple days
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that's the aha moment so did you think we might be on the wrong side of this do
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we need to like around and I could be you know definitely might be an hour and
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I also see to how this is this this is need the Michael what's his name from
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the Wall Street movie this is his you know that big brick size cell phone that
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he had 1986 where his bathroom right and we were really impressed by that you
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could be on the beach and beyond a phone call it the thing is the size of you
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know the size of a briefcase you know Google glass is that for these heads-up
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displays I mean I don't think there's any doubt there's no doubt in my mind
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that it won't be you know five ten years from now that you'll be able to buy a
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normal pair of eyeglasses
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and our committee contacts contact seems hard battery was quite you know I'm not
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quite sure how you something electronic could be reduced to a contact lens a 10
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in the near future I mean but you'll never have a computer in your pocket
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well I'm not saying never I'm just saying that seems yeah maybe a little
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bit further out in the event horizon but so we look at it looks a little bit
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wonky but but who knows what the next to her third iteration of this I don't
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think people are going to get used to Google glass as it exists today not
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making it look like a complete jackass I fully acknowledge though that they'll be
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able to quickly be able to her aid and get it looks a lot more like a normal
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para classes at which point you know something like that I guess is
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inevitable I don't know you know you know I never gonna have to get used to
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it just just putting your foot in the standard your hand up in here and saying
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this is creepy is irrelevant because people are gonna do it anyway I don't
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know let's check back in saying I can't wait to be i cant wait though to tell my
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habit of looking at my cell phone every five minutes makes me a curmudgeon
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rather than the old fashioned guys you're staring at your external dingus
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instead of just creepily eight-minute the strip right Johnson anti-social here
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than anybody else P right instead of me looking at attention deficit disorder I
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look like the guy with the monk like serenity I gotta go well thanks for
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having me on this is great you the best I I'll see you in a couple weeks you
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will be on your time and if not I'll just see on his own
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