The Talk Show

54: Green iPhone 5C Hidden In A Beard


  I was a crazy day it's we are recording on Wednesday all day is it [TS]

  September 18th so its iOS 7 day as well as the day after all the the embargo [TS]

  lifted on iPhone 5s in five see reviews and joining me today I think for the [TS]

  first time is the first time you've been on the talk show first time Jim [TS]

  Dalrymple I do enjoy doing good you know you pointed out we were both at the [TS]

  Apple shindig last weekend and saw each other like MIT event like while they [TS]

  were talking so we just waved and literally did not say a word to each [TS]

  other I think for the first time ever just resists it was so crowded it was [TS]

  like if you didn't if you weren't already standing next to somebody you [TS]

  had no chance to to just wander over and say hi to the people you know it's funny [TS]

  you mentioned on the phone man O'Malley can I were sick migrated across the [TS]

  aisle from each other we didn't see each other you know it cuz I blamed in [TS]

  camouflage yeah it was a good event though I I know you don't like them [TS]

  the campus as much but I do I like those ones I i don't have any kind of phobia [TS]

  ciety disorder or anything like that but just in general I just don't like crowds [TS]

  I don't like being elbowed elbow with people you know and and tell you know I [TS]

  just giving examples so I don't I'm not a big concert goer I do go to concerts [TS]

  but I have to really like the band to go to a concert because I just don't like [TS]

  being that crowd and that's what that when they're on Apple's campus the event [TS]

  is it's just packed I mean there's there's a wait they they invite far [TS]

  fewer people but even so it's it's just isn't meant for that that's true [TS]

  you know i i dont go to concerts so much either but you wait until your son gets [TS]

  older than you'll be going he might have to invite down taken to the metal shoes [TS]

  and you know I honestly if there is any kind of trouble at a concert Amy be [TS]

  better anyway [TS]

  well I wouldn't ask away I saw I am I I'm interested you know I think we're [TS]

  years away obviously in having broken ground but I think that when the new [TS]

  campus the space ship arrives you know we already know from the plans that have [TS]

  come out that part of the spaceship is compared to the Town Hall Ave now [TS]

  massive amphitheater where I would expect they're going to have all of [TS]

  their future Apple events and I you know that that should be different because I [TS]

  think it's going to be built with the kind of crowds they draw in mind while [TS]

  and it makes a lot of sense i mean you know Apple pulled out of all the trade [TS]

  shows years ago because they wanted to do the room types of events and you know [TS]

  the first event I think that they really held was was under the iPod or the [TS]

  MacBook you know the original white MacBook when they had all those schools [TS]

  while the one big school [TS]

  but others came on later but i i think that they really saw the chance to to [TS]

  control the environment [TS]

  you know and they don't need to go to moscow Amin Lakhani West when you go to [TS]

  an event there it holds thousands of people you know and sometimes I think [TS]

  that they they want more control over what they're putting out and and how [TS]

  that information is going to be around the internet I like the event at the [TS]

  Yerba Buena Center I think that's a really nice facility I think it's a nice [TS]

  stage I mean it was great last year when the Foo Fighters are those sounded [TS]

  fantastic and I kind of like seeing Apple out of the isolated nature of [TS]

  their own campus like I vaguely worry you and i talked about this on the phone [TS]

  but you know Moses it here but I vaguely worried that come to the future [TS]

  spaceship campus that we're literally not going to see Apple anywhere outside [TS]

  their own the enclave of their own campus except WWDC [TS]

  and I don't think that's healthy I'm not sure I'm not sure why and who knows you [TS]

  know this thing is going to be huge who knows what we could see for WC right I [TS]

  thought of that too it doesn't seem practical to me that they would build [TS]

  into their campus facilities for a 45 thousand-person campus are arming [TS]

  conference but I don't know who knows that things gonna be huge [TS]

  yeah I mean maybe the at that point they they can expand it you know and you know [TS]

  part of the reason that they can explain it right now is because they just don't [TS]

  have the resources and you need to know you can only have so many engineers but [TS]

  by that time but that size campus mean downing in Cupertino last week you know [TS]

  I want to see some friends that you know didn't even work at Apple driving [TS]

  through Cupertino every building down there as you know there's so spread out [TS]

  among some of the buildings are miles away [TS]

  yeah that's just [TS]

  and they are you know it's true and and I know a lot of people I'm guessing most [TS]

  people do listen to the show I've never step foot on Apple's campus because it's [TS]

  you know it's out of the way but I know a lot of people who are fans of the [TS]

  company if they're in the area they'll make a pilgrimage you know they'll stop [TS]

  in there is a company store that people can go to one of its I think the only [TS]

  place where you can actually buy Apple T-shirts you know famously they don't [TS]

  they don't sell Apple t-shirts and Apple retail stores and so people go into that [TS]

  but one thing you're struck by and it's you know knowing how big apple has [TS]

  gotten you know that you know biggest by market cap company in the world or [TS]

  second exon order that the actual official one infinite loop campus is [TS]

  relatively small by the by their current standard and it's like you said you [TS]

  think like wow can given out how can they really still be in these buildings [TS]

  and you know you're exactly right there spread all over Cupertino right yeah and [TS]

  it's it's no exaggeration when you look at how far and wide [TS]

  those buildings are i mean and some of them what's funny is that they came from [TS]

  companies like HP and and other large companies that they gave up those [TS]

  buildings and Apple snaps I'm hoping you know they'd put under the people in them [TS]

  and the land for the new campus was from HP to yeah yeah yeah I think truth be [TS]

  told you know some of this growth came so quickly but in the end it's hard I [TS]

  mean it's hard to build a massive spaceships I mean it really is it's it's [TS]

  like a skyscraper that you know you lay down on the ground and form a donut out [TS]

  of i mean but it's you know it's it's as big or bigger than than like a massive [TS]

  manhattan's quite skyscraper in terms of you know Force Base yeah you know and [TS]

  that doesn't happen overnight [TS]

  obviously but it's overdue i mean the company is bursting at the seams on [TS]

  campus [TS]

  well and it's gonna be good for for them I mean I've seen people walking out of [TS]

  of one infinite loop to go to a meeting they open their courage people drive [TS]

  across town now just just for a meeting you know having everybody in in one [TS]

  central place is going to be good for for the whole company because then [TS]

  you'll have you know these the meetings that they have the design meetings and [TS]

  mean you know people and they're not going to be put out by doing this she [TS]

  just kind of stopped by I just worry though that in terms of public relations [TS]

  that it's too it's gonna be to isolating for them I mean people often make the [TS]

  joke that Apple is sort of like willy wonka you know that their secretive and [TS]

  they did you know everyone said I'll come out with these amazing things but [TS]

  there's you know there's that aspect of Willy Wonka to where he you know he [TS]

  secluded himself in the factory and closed the gates and got real weird you [TS]

  know it's true you know and Apple employees are they do go to conferences [TS]

  you know they go to CES they go to all sorts of conferences they just don't go [TS]

  and speak publicly they're just there and you kinda have to look at their name [TS]

  badge to find out there there I just worry about that long term it's that [TS]

  they're too isolated as a company I don't know it's it's going to be an [TS]

  interesting thing to see once once they start moving everything in there if the [TS]

  if they start closing off I don't know if they if they would pose like that i [TS]

  mean the only thing that they're doing is is pulling their employees altogether [TS]

  you know when all the resources that they have been putting those altogether [TS]

  yeah I would say it's two different things I think day-to-day operations [TS]

  it's going to be a huge win no doubt about it and I think you know almost [TS]

  like that the the well I don't think it's a coincidence I don't think it's I [TS]

  think it's the opposite I think it's by design that like Pixar's campus where [TS]

  there they purposefully designed it with this atrium where everybody would have [TS]

  to [TS]

  central atrium where no matter what your job as you kind of have to run into [TS]

  other people that it would be good if the people who were working on the rate [TS]

  racer software would just by coincidence run into the story team and they'd meet [TS]

  and maybe become friends and you know that good ideas can can come out of [TS]

  accidental meetings are going to be a lot more of that sort of stuff I'm [TS]

  saying though from a public relations standpoint for events that its and [TS]

  conferences and stuff it's it's worrisome to me that maybe we'll never [TS]

  see them outside of their own campus yeah that could very well happen [TS]

  considering the scope of what they're building and just let me know what we [TS]

  know about how much control they have over so yeah well I mean they have [TS]

  control over stuff now and you know things are still leak yeah you know so [TS]

  Tim said last year that they were going to double up on security secrecy seekers [TS]

  but yet here they are ya you know I've got a lot of questions about that in [TS]

  this weekend that so that's as good a place to start is annie is for the most [TS]

  part I would say the only thing that maybe he was a surprise was that that [TS]

  the that the 5s went to 64 bit yeah I don't know what to think about that but [TS]

  the bottom line though is that the the stuff that leet I think all of it just [TS]

  came from the Asia supply chain and I don't know that there's anything Apple [TS]

  can do about that that's it's so tough you know despite the fact that a lot of [TS]

  the stuff leak from the Asian supply chain most of the animals who stole [TS]

  wrong the analyst where it's you know that's right it's the people who [TS]

  literally payoff factory employees to sneak out components right right I mean [TS]

  like there's no like analysis to it it's it's just black market bribery to get [TS]

  you know here's here's the gold frame [TS]

  from the iPhone 5s you know where it is and how do you stop that I mean it's [TS]

  almost impossible [TS]

  yeah I don't know software wise almost nothing leaked I mean even something as [TS]

  stupid as innocuous as the fact that it in only in the GIM none of the betas [TS]

  they added on new ringtones and alert tones that didn't leak they had that you [TS]

  know i mean that was the only software surprise but you know didn't make you [TS]

  know and I think I even mentioned last week and sunday was on the show [TS]

  think about this Iowa 7 itself did not leak until they showed it at WWDC now [TS]

  there were rumors that it was going flat that it was a radical redesign it was [TS]

  going to be polarizing but the actual you know what it actually looked like [TS]

  did not leak until they showed it on stage at WWDC [TS]

  the so this stuff that happens on campus in Cupertino they're definitely that I [TS]

  think they have successfully double down on secrecy the stuff that goes through [TS]

  the agent supply chain just leaks like a sieve is that why they're moving some of [TS]

  the manufacturing did the USS or two different places you know they're [TS]

  talking about Brazil and they talk about the us- I wouldn't be surprised if it's [TS]

  part of it you know you always have to read between the lines with these with [TS]

  take him in and fill on stage i mean they're you know they're so polish so [TS]

  rehearse but you know and again this just could be my imagination I'm totally [TS]

  just you know armchair psyche psyche psychologist here but like when when Tim [TS]

  Cook was up there after Craig Federici did the run-through of what's new and I [TS]

  was seven and the next thing was to talk about new iPhones [TS]

  and Tim said something along the lines of some you know new iPhone some of you [TS]

  maybe it could have been expecting us I couldn't help but think though that he [TS]

  hated that he hated hated it that we already knew sort of what the 5s look [TS]

  like hated that we'd already you can I don't know I just felt like I could see [TS]

  it and that the gold it was not a surprise [TS]

  yeah really well that disappointed them I i think you must disappoint them [TS]

  because you know they work for you know a couple years on these products and [TS]

  then they're leaked you know a few months before they come out and Apple [TS]

  loves the surprise they loved that doctor of their their key notes that [TS]

  they can say oh yeah just one more thing but if everybody knows what the one more [TS]

  thing is there and you know it's done [TS]

  Steve hated that and I i have to think that the team does too but you know it [TS]

  wasn't really much of a surprise we we did get confirmation on nocolors and [TS]

  pricing and and things like that but it's gonna be a letdown to get up in the [TS]

  morning and see your new products that will be announced in a month's time [TS]

  splashed all over the internet I think so and I can't help but think that [TS]

  there's maybe maybe that's it's simple enough not to over think it about like [TS]

  why did this 64 bit stay secret and the other stuff didn't I think it's probably [TS]

  because the a seven is if not the most expensive component it's one of you know [TS]

  maybe maybe the display something like that and so would be a lot harder to [TS]

  smuggle that out and [TS]

  a lay person you know like someone who simply assembles them they had no idea [TS]

  what they're looking at you can't look at the a seven and tell that it's you [TS]

  know a 64 bit Raigad you know it just says a seven designed by Apple in [TS]

  California words you know something like that they don't know what it is and [TS]

  they're not I think it's a harder thing to smuggle out if they did I would how [TS]

  would somebody else even tell what it is well and you mentioned it earlier that [TS]

  the secrecy on campus is getting a lot better and that's where they would be [TS]

  developing Iowa seven so you know 64 bit versions of them remember when when [TS]

  Steve announced the Intel version of Mac OS 10 and said there's a building on [TS]

  campus where this has been developed for the last year alongside the other [TS]

  version and nobody knew that that is incredible and if you've ever been on [TS]

  campus [TS]

  you know there are there are people walking around with trolleys with a [TS]

  black cloth straight over them you know so there is a lot of secrecy that that [TS]

  goes on there even from their own employees and the employees understand [TS]

  that you know I think these days a lot of those people that work there really [TS]

  wanna work for Apple and more often than not if you talk to people that work [TS]

  there they believed what they're doing actually means something they they're [TS]

  making changes that are innovating on things and they want to continue to work [TS]

  there [TS]

  yeah because if you don't work there were also you gonna work that has the [TS]

  same priorities yeah you know and I think that you know the same logic [TS]

  applies to Google I think in general you know obviously there are exceptions and [TS]

  I'm sure that there are some people working at Google who used to work at [TS]

  Apple and vice versa but on the whole though they attract different types of [TS]

  Engineers different types of designers people with you know who see different [TS]

  things as the most important thing they could be working on well in for the good [TS]

  ones for these [TS]

  great engineers they do have a choice you know Apple goes looking for them and [TS]

  Google goes looking for them so they they can pretty much work where they [TS]

  won't you know it's not a matter of a boy you better take this job at Apple [TS]

  because you know if nothing else all of these companies try it and and bring [TS]

  over them [TS]

  the greatest so you know talk to I i talked to a developer down their own he [TS]

  owns a company news looking for developers he can't find good developers [TS]

  in the San Jose in the valley basically because they're they're all taken up and [TS]

  you know apple pays them well and everybody gives them you know great [TS]

  benefits Apple Google so he ended up going to Austin should still but he left [TS]

  there it's really hard you know it is definitely a hard thing to and I know [TS]

  you know people leave Apple but the big thing is I know a lot of people who've [TS]

  like left you know either friends or at least people who I would call you know [TS]

  so my friends acquaintances you know they last maybe two years ago and I know [TS]

  some of them who are already back door not because they had to but you know and [TS]

  and it's almost like thats how you do a sabbatical at Apple Inc if you're tired [TS]

  and wanna try something new you leave and you you know go and work somewhere [TS]

  else for a year or two and then if you want and it's still there you go back to [TS]

  Apple and the door is you know usually open if you left you know if you left on [TS]

  good terms and did good work [TS]

  yeah yeah and there's a lot of people that have done that I sure did that I [TS]

  don't think so did he sure was was there and he went to a comedian then came back [TS]

  I didn't know he was at Apple before Macromedia I only knew that he was at [TS]

  Macromedia but it doesn't surprise me I guess I knew that he was a Macromedia [TS]

  that I mean there's a long time ago [TS]

  hard to imagine I was surprised she has got to be the executives been there he [TS]

  must be cuz I know that he had he was you know [TS]

  senior vice president for product marketing before Jobs returned he was [TS]

  like it may be the only guy who survived the return of jobs I think he could be [TS]

  very hard to imagine a modern apple with them for sure it really is you know but [TS]

  you're right and and just going back one step your right though that the host the [TS]

  whole idea that on day one I was 7 64 bit total secret [TS]

  well it's got to be because it was produced at Apple but the most people [TS]

  care about 64 bit well I went into it in my review and you know 64 bit in and of [TS]

  itself no not really worth worrying about [TS]

  it's a developer problem in you know just like with with Mac OS 10 I don't [TS]

  think that anybody really had to worry about it with Mac OS 10 win 64 bit you [TS]

  know unlike every other platform I'm aware of like Windows you know you [TS]

  didn't have to worry about what version of a nap you had you know at all just [TS]

  worked and I think it'll be like that for consumers with that the big [TS]

  difference is the move from the old arm V seven architecture to arm the eighth [TS]

  which has a whole bunch of real performance improvements and it makes [TS]

  sense if you're going to go to RVA to go 64 bit at the same time so in a way they [TS]

  should care because it really what enabled [TS]

  the five asked to be literally like no exaggeration twice as fast as the five [TS]

  from a year ago and twice as fast in one generation of phones is that significant [TS]

  yeah it really like the old days of the pH PC industry you know where it where [TS]

  you can you know you by a computer and a year later for the same price you can [TS]

  buy one that was twice as fast and you feel like man that's you know I can't [TS]

  believe I should have waited a year by my computer it really is like that with [TS]

  mobile [TS]

  it certainly isn't like that with PCs anymore but you know I know a new [TS]

  MacBook area by the day is not twice as far as its better the battery life [TS]

  they've certainly made significant improvements your ear but you know you [TS]

  don't see a doubling of clock speed or not i guess i clock speed but CPU [TS]

  performance year-over-year it's really amazing [TS]

  well and I think people realize now that the PC isn't really what they need [TS]

  anymore you know I mean for all intents and purposes the iPhone is a PC and and [TS]

  you know you and then you have the iPad I work I still work on on a MacBook Pro [TS]

  but you know I can easily work on an iPad I can work on my phone if i if I [TS]

  really need to I don't like to but I can I do a significant amount of work on my [TS]

  phone one thing I do a lot of them my phone is cue up material that I want to [TS]

  link to later in the day so I'll just start my day with the phone in my hand [TS]

  and start reading and if I see something I should link to that from during fire [TS]

  by you know unless I'm gonna be on the phone all day I won't check it all out [TS]

  on my thumbs right there I'll just send it to pin board and then later when I'm [TS]

  at my desk I've already got six or seven things that I flagged to post yeah it's [TS]

  tremendously useful to me [TS]

  well i i do I started using reading list I was using Instapaper but when I [TS]

  started trying a reading list because it syncs now yeah I between all the devices [TS]

  I I tried that of to see how that would work and it's pretty good yeah and it's [TS]

  gotten better to yeah it's not it's not perfect by any stretch but you know we [TS]

  usually what I do somebody asked me you know how long my reading list was not as [TS]

  soon as I i link to something I do it right you know so my my list isn't that [TS]

  long but it's it's a pretty efficient way to do things and now and now you [TS]

  when I wanna put my computer down I usually pick up my iPad and you know [TS]

  that's that's just casual reading you know going through you know the latest [TS]

  things that people send whatever and you know that's that's a more casual type of [TS]

  browsing for me to sit down with the the iPad do that but then you know saving [TS]

  links and things like that but if I have to pull something probably reach over [TS]

  and grab my macbook again [TS]

  yeah I would say it's just as a rough a rough schedule the iPhone is my morning [TS]

  device my Mac at my desk is my afternoon to evening device and then my iPad is my [TS]

  evening case last night was a perfect example so I was late publishing my the [TS]

  embargo was 9 p.m. Pacific on the iPhone reviews and I was I was late as usual I [TS]

  think I published right after midnight eastern time so about three hours late [TS]

  that's actually good for you and that's pretty tired I busy day linking before I [TS]

  really settled down to write I had a lot of notes from the week I mean that when [TS]

  I write this stuff I i've note side note scribbled in investor I have notes [TS]

  scribbled in paper notebooks I have the beginnings in BBEdit of sort of like a [TS]

  text file with the article but I just started like let us do and then I just [TS]

  start writing and i ended up at about six thousand words are so I was tired [TS]

  you know i mean that's a busy day six thousand words I mean I must say I wrote [TS]

  all six thousand words but I kind of put them all together and you know it's [TS]

  midnight and I all the other reviews around and I you know even when I'm late [TS]

  I don't stop and read you know I want to get my review out without being biased [TS]

  by what other people but then are so many reviews it came out on the embargo [TS]

  I'd last thing in the world I would want to do is still be at my desk and read [TS]

  them on the computer reading them on the iPad with a beer in my hand on the couch [TS]

  it was so much better than than the old days before they really was I mean I [TS]

  know you know I'm laying back I'm on the couch in the living room not at my desk [TS]

  I mean I've had you know by the time when you write six thousand words in the [TS]

  date last you a do is to be a desk I agree could not be better and you know [TS]

  what I would not want to read like you can't read and on mushrooms peas you can [TS]

  read that carried out on an iPhone you can read that were the case right I love [TS]

  his because it made my short I loved my link to his today and I said I don't [TS]

  think there's anybody more qualified to do this type of review I mean he just he [TS]

  basically terrorist the thing apart and you know talks about things then the [TS]

  very attack-minded people care about and you need that you really do you know [TS]

  what I was nervous about to take a break in a minute for the first month when I [TS]

  was nervous because I went a little bit more benchmark II and mine than I [TS]

  usually do because I really thought that the 64 bit transition was so interesting [TS]

  and there'd been so much controversy about this going to 64 bit with only one [TS]

  gig of ram is a total gimmick blah blah blah so I really want a lot more [TS]

  technical than I have in a long time and I was so worried because I knew when I [TS]

  read Anansi if he said like kind of a map great performance wise that I was [TS]

  toast so I and I usually do he breaks his up over multiple pages I actually [TS]

  skipped and went to the CPU performance page first just like double check and [TS]

  and everything he had kind of job with mine you know that wow this is about [TS]

  twice as fast your ear and it's faster than all the leading Android phones yea [TS]

  well when i when i look at something like that I i cant to take the you know [TS]

  the end user approaching my reviews and this time I I went for the pain points [TS]

  you know and for me that's and password you know and unlocking the phone every [TS]

  single time and I i did have concerns about the the fingerprint sensor because [TS]

  as I laid over in the review and I was worried it was gonna say ok I'm on law [TS]

  awakened oh you wanna do a fingerprint ok he'll read and you know it just be [TS]

  this painful experience that I can actually type it in faster than waiting [TS]

  for the fingerprint and that would be useless as as a feature that you would [TS]

  want to continue to use them in it has to be fast and it really is you you just [TS]

  press the home button to a two to wake the phone up and just keep just register [TS]

  your thumb on it and I use my time instead of a finger cuz that's how I [TS]

  hold the phone [TS]

  I just rest my thumb on it and it immediately just opened up let's pick it [TS]

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  so my my description of the fingerprint sensor is exactly like you say it's it's [TS]

  so much faster than I think it even has to be the right like my thought going in [TS]

  was exactly the same as yours that it can't be like roughly as long as it [TS]

  takes to enter a passcode it has to be way faster than basket because it's just [TS]

  the way that that any sort of disruption has to be ten times better than the [TS]

  thing that came before it you know and and and just want to go too far off and [TS]

  attention but I think that's exactly the problem that Windows Phone faces Windows [TS]

  Phone is by all accounts really good mobile operating system but it was late [TS]

  and at best it's you know roughly on par with Android and iOS you know it's the [TS]

  same thing it's not ten times better so it just has trouble getting traction [TS]

  whereas the original iPhone was ten times better than what came before it [TS]

  and that's what does so if you're going to get rid of passcodes the thing that [TS]

  you're going to get rid of him with has to be like 10 times better and that's [TS]

  what such ideas it is it is so much faster than I really thought that they [TS]

  were gonna be able to achieve I had like my hopes I hope it's like hope it's like [TS]

  that and they did it by a long shot [TS]

  you know there there are these features that can vote in iowa soror Oosten [TS]

  thing called analyst him when they expose a yeah you know you could you can [TS]

  do these windows and you can have all the stuff going on I never used you know [TS]

  it's one of those things that when it first comes only look at it and say well [TS]

  that's cool but if it doesn't actually remove a problem or a pain point for you [TS]

  then you're not going to end up using it the the hopes that I had similar to [TS]

  yours for the touch heidi was they they were pretty high expectations and had [TS]

  exceeded them for me and it so much and you know we talked about this on the [TS]

  phone so much so that I went to my my five Si and quick hit on the left my [TS]

  phone there on the thing waiting for it to unlock and [TS]

  and I thought oh my god it's broken i've seen that in at least three different [TS]

  reviews of the iPhone 5s everybody knows everybody that shows you the feature [TS]

  works and it and it does remove a problem and it absolutely did for me so [TS]

  that's something that that in itself is a reason to buy the 50 S III think Tim [TS]

  Cook even kind of touched on this i think is wrap up at the end of the event [TS]

  I know he touched on this number when but I think it was at the very end is [TS]

  wrapping it up when he was talking about you know the the new stuff and there's [TS]

  not that much new really I mean there's touch aidid there's the improved camera [TS]

  with burst mode and the slow mo and there's the performance gains but that [TS]

  they really focus not just on adding new stuff but new stuff that everybody will [TS]

  find useful and reading between the lines are to me it's putting a finger at [TS]

  no better example than that the Samsung Galaxy s4 [TS]

  the one that was unveiled at Radio City Music Hall with the song and dance show [TS]

  and all this stuff and and and these features they had all these new features [TS]

  like watching a video and then you move your eyes away it'll pause automatically [TS]

  and something where you can somehow moved in manipulate items on the screen [TS]

  without actually touching the glass and then you read all the reviews and [TS]

  everybody says these things are gimmicks and they don't even work that well I [TS]

  don't like it [TS]

  yeah and and now here we are six seven months later nobody even talks about [TS]

  this features nobody says boy all the other Android phones in iPhone need to [TS]

  get this look away from video and have it paused automatically [TS]

  because you know what that's nobody actually has a problem causing the video [TS]

  right screen tap passe well and where you gonna watch video on your phone you [TS]

  know sometime maybe you're in an airport so you know you lift your eyes up and [TS]

  look around and expected to keep going up which I would and then a pause and [TS]

  you wouldn't want that you know it's it's like you said though it's it is [TS]

  hard to find actual problems to solve and and to solve them in a way that it [TS]

  works for everybody and their I I think you just nailed something that Apple [TS]

  does that nobody else does I think that they actually look for the problems to [TS]

  solve instead of coming up and saying I've got this fancy new feature and [TS]

  granite Apple probably does this to you know let's make a backup that looks like [TS]

  it's in space and on your Mac and you know they they highlight that stuff as [TS]

  well but it doesn't seem to me that a lot of companies actually look for [TS]

  something to solve when apple looks at you know the the passcode ok we need [TS]

  people are we want people to be secure and we want them to lock their phones [TS]

  this is a real problem and you know your your phone beeps you pick it up you type [TS]

  in your passcode and then you look at it block and put it back down again and [TS]

  then it beeps again and you gotta pick up a couple so that's an actual problem [TS]

  that people have with with security and they solve that I would like you know [TS]

  people talk about why I'm so mean to Samsung well don't just take you know [TS]

  ten new features and and throw them in there if they don't actually do anything [TS]

  right you're wasting people's time you really are and then and I can see why [TS]

  they do it I do shouldn't but I can see why because they're not actually helping [TS]

  customers because of the features and helpful but but they're doing it because [TS]

  so many people in [TS]

  technology press and the business press have this insatiable desire for endless [TS]

  revolution [TS]

  void the word innovation because I have talked about it that I think innovation [TS]

  means something different than what what the people who say Apple can have it [TS]

  anymore what they say what they think innovation means his revolution they [TS]

  want and knew that the 2007 iPhone every every 12 months that's not gonna happen [TS]

  real innovation is incremental and it's like it's always about going a layer [TS]

  deeper often often going about every once in a while it is about revolution [TS]

  but for the most part it's incremental and and for some reason in technology [TS]

  that's that's where people see this may be because technology is still [TS]

  relatively new field but I think about like the automobile industry and nobody [TS]

  demand stuff like that nobody like when BMW comes out with the new 3 series is [TS]

  is demanding that you know I can't believe that it still has tires on the [TS]

  road and it isn't we don't have hover cars yet you know I mean George Lucas [TS]

  showed us in a land speeder in 1977 why don't why i cant BMW make one you know [TS]

  what they do they work on things like making the doors nicer the trend right [TS]

  it's like you know it's just funny it's funny how like if you get into somebody [TS]

  who's driving like a later model premium car like a 97 BMW still nice car but you [TS]

  get into it and you know what it's like roughly on par with like you know like a [TS]

  mid-range like a Honda Civic today you know what would have happened in in 2007 [TS]

  if Apple brought out the first iPhone and it was exactly the 5s with the Iowa [TS]

  seven people probably wouldn't lynch jobs for being a witch [TS]

  right you know what do you need this airdrop thing for what is that kind of [TS]

  witchcraft that you're talking about their Steve and that's that's why it's [TS]

  incremental because as as the technology unfold we realize that there are things [TS]

  that we need to do [TS]

  and there are things that we wanted to there there are different types of media [TS]

  in files and information that we want to share okay well here's the thing called [TS]

  airdrop it took seven years but we didn't know that we wanted that in 2007 [TS]

  we didn't even know we wanted the iPhone in 2007 ya xoxo another one word to [TS]

  simple problem and its hey you've got one of these devices I've got one of [TS]

  these devices and we can see each other right here in the room together should I [TS]

  be able to just send you a link or a picture and what do we do before that [TS]

  well text it to me or email it to me or you know no just airdrop do it it's done [TS]

  yeah I did it we are used it last week last week after the going out to [TS]

  California for the Apple shindig instead of flying straight home I went to Denver [TS]

  where I Q branch college where that that's where we ended up recording the [TS]

  talk show but Davis Kissin they whiskers lives there and and Brent Simmons was in [TS]

  town for the 360 back and say no to a convenient way for the three of us to [TS]

  meet face-to-face in and do some work but we used a drop in it was great you [TS]

  know I have a picture in the new show you this year and airdrops there it is [TS]

  you know it was super can be I i often don't run into stuff like that one at [TS]

  home because I like a little like a hermit up here meet about spending two [TS]

  days working like a regular person with colleagues in the same room it it's [TS]

  fantastic [TS]

  could not be easier really great future and it just solves a problem that's been [TS]

  staring us in the face the whole time and that's it in the the greatest [TS]

  features I i think are the ones that solve a problem that you don't realize [TS]

  there's a solution to [TS]

  you know there is there's another thing that's a pain point while there is a [TS]

  solution text that file to me that's fine but there is a better solution and [TS]

  you know we didn't even know that there was a solution needed that we we didn't [TS]

  already have but there it is [TS]

  you know those are the ones that you'll end up using the end and just to just to [TS]

  clarify looking at those shoulders bio and Apple it says since rejoining Apple [TS]

  in 1997 so you're right he was there before I I thought I thought I better [TS]

  clarify just in case of his room you know you probably had the scoop at max [TS]

  central 95 or whenever it was when when when he left to go to Macromedia that's [TS]

  probably what you remember you're probably the one who broke the news man [TS]

  was long time ago so let me just take a second break here to me to the second [TS]

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  use QuickTime export the file which is what I did and pumice stone skies [TS]

  gregory call David great great iPhone apps to anyway [TS]

  global a great thing checking out [TS]

  so I think that there's a pretty clear consensus that the 5s is great upgrade [TS]

  five see is is great fun you know clearly its spec wise it's the same as [TS]

  the the five if you have an iPhone 5 [TS]

  you're not going to upgrade to the five see you know you're just except for the [TS]

  color line of people will do this I don't think anybody who already has a 52 [TS]

  means somebody might say nobody but you know it's hard to recommend the file yes [TS]

  it is the if you already have a five is the 5s a worthy upgrade yeah I think so [TS]

  you know if you're willing to pay that the price that it you know everybody [TS]

  already has a 52 year ago if you if you're willing to pay the price I think [TS]

  it's worth it i mean i think is probably worth it for the camera [TS]

  yeah but I'm a dummy i've i've bought my own new iPhone every single year and I [TS]

  have never regretted it though so maybe I'm not that I don't like money well [TS]

  spent to me but it's it totally feels like a solid upgrade to me now [TS]

  the cameras one of the last things that I looked at it I am I see walking around [TS]

  even at the event last week and you've got the nice DSLR you know you've got [TS]

  nice camera I don't because I totally sucking photography I'm just terrible [TS]

  and if if my iPhone doesn't take a good good pitcher then I just don't have good [TS]

  pictures so I need any the iPhone camera to be good I do like 22 film videos and [TS]

  I filmed some videos for the review of the slow mo feature and and put them in [TS]

  their of my dogs playing frisbee and the videos were always you know they're [TS]

  always very cool because one of my mind Border Collies Herald he just had loves [TS]

  to jump as high as he can throw the frisbee [TS]

  and so it was great I want you know you throw the frisbee and he jumps like five [TS]

  feet in the air [TS]

  catches this thing and I slow mode that section of it it was brilliant I loved [TS]

  it [TS]

  yeah it's a really clever you know and I it is an intersection of hardware and [TS]

  software I mean obviously the hardware the camera itself hardware has to be [TS]

  capable of shooting a hundred and twenty frames per second which not a lot of [TS]

  very few cellphone size cameras can but it's more than that though it's the [TS]

  software where it's so easy to pick the points where you want it in slow mo easy [TS]

  enough to make the whole clip slovo easy enough to say you know forget about the [TS]

  slow mo I don't want any of its loan I just want the video at regular speed I [TS]

  forget the same whatever you want it is so easy to to specify yeah he's standing [TS]

  points you know it seems so obvious once you've seen in you you know I'm sure you [TS]

  know by next year when it lots of phones have this that you know all sorts of [TS]

  Android phones are going to have the exact same interface but that's sort of [TS]

  interface that seems so obvious once you're seeing that it's not obvious you [TS]

  know in no its not I mean thinking about going in and saying OK slow mo video do [TS]

  a export standard is a pic the pirate automatically or you know what happens [TS]

  here and the thing is I I did three separate videos and I picked the the N&O [TS]

  points and then you export the video and Sharon that's you know I said I emailed [TS]

  it to myself but then you can go back in and picked new window points you know [TS]

  the video is still there the the ability to do slow mo is still there the ability [TS]

  to change it up you know so you can do whatever you want as long as you have [TS]

  the video on your iPhone you know and and then re-exported and mail it to [TS]

  yourself again yes so the way it works behind the scenes when you shoot a slow [TS]

  mo clip it shoots the whole thing at $125 per second so it's four times the [TS]

  number of frames that it regular 30 frames per second videos [TS]

  but then you said these in and out points and they're just saved as [TS]

  meditate on the file and then when you export it it'll export version that does [TS]

  30 frames per second at the real speed and just goes you know it couldn't be [TS]

  better at all I think it's a lot like the way the filters work on the still [TS]

  pictures where it doesn't really save them it saves the filter as metadata and [TS]

  it only really does the application of it at full resolution when you export as [TS]

  something else to notables on the third video that I posted you can actually [TS]

  hear the audio being slow down as well and the dog was really kind of close to [TS]

  me when he when he jumped and caught the the frisbee you can hear his teeth [TS]

  grasp onto the frisbee in slow mode I got it's great it's great I i I loved it [TS]

  one of the things that struck me especially with these new camera [TS]

  features on the 5s [TS]

  the burst mode and the slow mo is it is and you know and I think that the last [TS]

  year or I guess it was I wasn't last year was that the introduction of Iowa [TS]

  seven but that was back at WBC when they added the built-in Instagram style [TS]

  filters is how clearly Apple is designing this for the idea that your [TS]

  photos are never really gonna leave your iPhone you might sink them to iPhoto on [TS]

  a Mac or something you might or some art Lightroom or Aperture something you [TS]

  could you can if you want but you're no longer are expected to write your your [TS]

  phone is the one-stop place for the entire photo experience [TS]

  cause I think back like I used to shoot film I used to you know I got into [TS]

  photography in the late nineties and shot you know film into my first you [TS]

  know Canon SLR shot on film and and the first couple years after my son was born [TS]

  all the pictures I shot on film and what do you do with film are you taking get [TS]

  developed and you get prints and then take the Princeton and you know throw [TS]

  out anything that turned out bad and take the good ones and put them in a [TS]

  photo album and there you go that's what you do what did you do with digital [TS]

  photos right that was a big question when when we first went to digital and [TS]

  before I photo existed what we do is we we hook up the digital camera to your [TS]

  computer and you dump all the files into a folder in the Finder and have all [TS]

  these pictures and you'd like open them up in something and and look at them and [TS]

  maybe throw out but then you just you just wound up and up with a thousand [TS]

  photos and not written all have like these names like IMG underscore 568 died [TS]

  jpg right in all caps of course right now and there was a serious question and [TS]

  then when they when Apple first came out with iPhoto that was how Steve Jobs [TS]

  Pittston as I looked at that's nonsense here will help you organize your but I [TS]

  think you know you know and and I photos a great app and it certainly made that [TS]

  better but it wasn't good enough and I don't feel like I feel like the true [TS]

  solution of what do we do it digital photos is is the iPhone it's keeping [TS]

  them on the device and then finding one's really want to share and sharing [TS]

  them you know to Instagram or two Flickr or to email or a text message or or [TS]

  whatever right there right there is no sync process there is no move it to a [TS]

  real computer and then do something hit the iPhone is the real computer and you [TS]

  can get rid of the red eye right there and you can adjust the color balance you [TS]

  know put some kind of filter on to give it a warmer look or or a black-and-white [TS]

  look right there do you think that's for everybody though I do I think it's way [TS]

  more for everybody [TS]

  and Dan's thinking by USC be cable connecting it to something even like [TS]

  iPhoto and then doing those things because for the most part I think you [TS]

  want to do something like posted to Flickr or send it to a friend or a [TS]

  family member or something right after you took the photo that's true right I [TS]

  feel like you know you go on vacation and it's so much more fun to take a [TS]

  picture of you in front of some kind of landmark and then send it right after [TS]

  you took the picture then to do at eight days later when you get on that part is [TS]

  true what about the people then you know like many she may post on Facebook [TS]

  profile picture something but then she likes to get home in organize your [TS]

  pictures and you know vacation this is where we went to look at them because [TS]

  it's a nice big screen make make a book what you do you know your know if that's [TS]

  what you like to do its your no worse for the wear right now it's no skin off [TS]

  your back you can still do that in this is like a new convenience added on top [TS]

  but the thing that really also made me think about today was David Pogue's [TS]

  review of Iowa 7 I think mentioned that when you set a filter in iOS you take a [TS]

  picture in in you use one of Apple's built-in filters and then you sync your [TS]

  phone to your computer and sucking in iPhoto or whatever you don't get that [TS]

  filter you just get the photo you shot the filter is just like metadata that on [TS]

  the iPhone and it only really gets applied when you do it from the iPhone [TS]

  it makes sense to me and that doesn't surprise me but it did surprise pope so [TS]

  maybe you know I saw the the link that you posted on that yesterday maybe that [TS]

  is the way that they're heading you know they're just easing into it I don't [TS]

  freak people and you know and the big one for me and I wrote about my review [TS]

  but the burst mode is just so I opening you know and like you said I have a [TS]

  really nice Canon 5d I have some really nice lenses for it I'm not a [TS]

  professional photographer are not even a prosumer [TS]

  maybe like avid amateur but I do like shooting in you know call it burst mode [TS]

  colleague continuous mode especially you know shooting kids you know but just [TS]

  hold the button down and shoot as fast as the camera will go for a second or [TS]

  two and your it just increases the odds that on one of those once you get your [TS]

  subjects were in focus their eyes are open and the light looks good on him but [TS]

  then what do you do with the rest if you just shot 12 photos and then it's like [TS]

  delete delete delete this the one that was good or not the burst mode software [TS]

  interface on the iPhone is again in hindsight of course this is how but not [TS]

  have never seen a camera that work like that before you know where you go open [TS]

  up the burst when you're ready and you just click a button says favorites and [TS]

  then it shows you all of the photos in the burst in a timeline and it [TS]

  automatically makes I can guess as to which one is the best using like the [TS]

  facial recognition and stuff I haven't used them in a week isn't long enough to [TS]

  really test how good their guesses so I just didn't comment on it but you know [TS]

  it might do pretty well seems like the facial recognition for focus has always [TS]

  worked pretty well on the iPhone you pick one you pick to you could pick none [TS]

  but you pick however if anyone knows that you pick get saved as their own [TS]

  items in the photo role and then you can do it Hoeber stack in one action it is [TS]

  it is so great interest and it's so much quicker than like the old way like with [TS]

  my Canon which is a $2000 camera I think maybe I get 2500 camera [TS]

  if I shoot a burst of 20 photos it's easier for me to make my selects a pic [TS]

  the one or two keepers and throw out the other 18 once I think to Lightroom my [TS]

  computer and do it on my computer it's a total pain in the ass to do it on the [TS]

  camera just died as I just don't even bother bother trying because it's like [TS]

  the league confirmed the league and forget it you know what I mean I'm [TS]

  whereas the iPhone now the iPhone 5 ass has now made it where it's easier to do [TS]

  your pics keep your selects and get rid of the other ones it's way easier on the [TS]

  phone then it would be to do it in iPhoto or Aperture library yeah like [TS]

  they've totally inverted the model of where it's easier you know where where [TS]

  your first pass triage of your photos is easier done couldn't be happier with it [TS]

  and that's just what you want and again another pain point and so you know in [TS]

  terms of people who are upgrading and have to pay the full price because there [TS]

  are still on contractors have a iPhone 5 to me a good point and shoot camera is [TS]

  still worth you know the 23 $400 you know I that to me factors into the price [TS]

  of upgrading to the 5s is that it's you know it is a great point and shoot [TS]

  camera and that's what people like me need i mean you know you can tell me [TS]

  that it has you know an F 2.5 I I don't know what that means you just speaking [TS]

  gibberish to me as it should be I i just if I can take the camera and you know [TS]

  when many can I are going on vacation or something and we look at what we have to [TS]

  pack do we need a camera no I'm done gonna use the iPhone you can bring [TS]

  camera if you want to use the iPhone and that's always use so it's important to [TS]

  me that it focuses properly and you know using the the burst mode is going to be [TS]

  great for me because I take such a picture that using the burst mode and [TS]

  then to go in and how [TS]

  you know recommend oh here's here's a good one [TS]

  you know this one has the right lighting and you know it's not blurred and it's [TS]

  all OK iPhone 5 I'll take your advice and I'll keep that one the rest of them [TS]

  delete the most surprising statistic i've seen in awhile as I thought it [TS]

  would be a big number and it was way better than I thought was a week or two [TS]

  ago when I was writing about Nintendo and and how you know I think that their [TS]

  handheld market is is serious danger due to the post-pc but Nintendo aside I as [TS]

  further example of devices being disrupted I wanted to look up what's [TS]

  going on with the point and shoot camera industry and and it was I think it was [TS]

  42% that Wall Street Journal reported a few weeks ago that point and shoot [TS]

  camera sales were down 42 percent in just 12 months which is almost almost [TS]

  phenomenal bottoming out of the market right and i think that it's one of those [TS]

  things that aside [TS]

  well the damage was done between 2012 and 2013 outta love allowed no way I [TS]

  think that when you see a trend line like that I think you're going to see it [TS]

  happening you know next year's gonna be like another 40 50% that there's just [TS]

  less and less yes the optics the actual like physics of light going through [TS]

  lands and hitting a center are way better on a point and shoot camera that [TS]

  has you know a big dedicated lands way bigger compared to the phone but you [TS]

  can't be the software and you can't beat the conductivity and the apps and the [TS]

  social sharing that you get on the phone you know the camera that with you is the [TS]

  best camera and isn't that the way that that a lot of this stuff is it's making [TS]

  the camera or whatever it is good enough it's there it's with you you trusted [TS]

  you're willing to use it [TS]

  yeah that's that's exactly what it is for me [TS]

  its exact same way that we're we're PC laptop sales have dropped off with [TS]

  tablets it's not because tablets are faster than Windows and Mac laptops that [TS]

  they're more powerful more multitasking bar that the screen is as big or that [TS]

  you can type as fast it's a it's that it's good enough and that it's so much [TS]

  easier and nicer right that's how disruption works you know you think [TS]

  you're safe because he respects and in the meantime the the disruptor is is the [TS]

  bottom and and the same thing happened i mean you talk about you know this [TS]

  statistic with with cameras look at printers when's the last time you [TS]

  printed anything and it's not that disrupted and replaced with something [TS]

  else just became absolutely I would buy a printer that can only print airline I [TS]

  i mean we we still have a printer and it's on the network because my kids are [TS]

  both in the university and they need to pass in papers and you know why they [TS]

  don't just have them email the papers and I don't know this day in age but [TS]

  they have to print it off my son is in fourth grade and has allowed to email us [TS]

  homer in there you go to university in Canada so there's there's universities [TS]

  are slower to move they they still take dogs words to say I would want to print [TS]

  maybe because I would want to make sure the fun turned out alright I don't trust [TS]

  him to have the pontiff but that's me [TS]

  let me take the last sponsor break and then Iran do after the sponsor break I [TS]

  asked before we got on the air I asked people on Twitter I told them I said hey [TS]

  downpours gonna be on the show what questions do you have for us about the [TS]

  the new iPhones and Iowa seven so I got a whole bunch of Twitter responses and [TS]

  try to go through I will answer these questions and some of them are funny [TS]

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  seven so much better on the iPhone and the iPad I like it on the iPad [TS]

  you know there seems to be some mixed reaction that I kind of expected last [TS]

  week that they were gonna only released this week for iPhone and release it for [TS]

  the iPad next month when I think everybody expects there to be another [TS]

  Apple event to do it just seems to me like I S seven is about a month behind [TS]

  on iPad it wasn't ready at WWDC the first beta you know is always two or [TS]

  three weeks behind it still feels two or three weeks behind me that's not to say [TS]

  it unusable because I've been using I was seven on my iPhone iPhone since July [TS]

  and it's been fine I've had it you know find summer using iOS 7 is my main OS [TS]

  agreed and I have been using it on my my iPad sensible those at the same time and [TS]

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  David Bernard friend of the show [TS]

  guy behind all the app cubby apps was tweeting and took video of he was [TS]

  changing the wallpaper on his iPad Mini after updating it to the Iowa 7 p.m. and [TS]

  it it are you shooting a vine you know the vine only gives you six seconds [TS]

  divine wasn't long enough to show how long it took for the wallpaper changed [TS]

  take place so I mean obviously there's you know but I i try to myself I change [TS]

  the wallpaper didn't I didn't see that so it's not like well everybody's iPad [TS]

  Mini takes seven or eight seconds to change the wallpaper I i mean there's [TS]

  obviously something wrong on his I don't know I just feel like there is a point I [TS]

  do feel like it has been true that iOS iPad iOS 7 has been a few weeks behind [TS]

  but I don't know I it'll be interesting to see you what happens today and [TS]

  tomorrow after people upgrade you know whether there's an outcry from iPad [TS]

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  my iPad Mini running the Iowa 7 p.m. I i like it better than I liked it running [TS]

  iOS 6 yeah there's a good question is Jim jealous that Apple gave you a pink [TS]

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  just interrupt the questions you know what my favorite little feature of iOS 7 [TS]

  is it the fact that there is no longer a limit attacks now I you know used to be [TS]

  eight and if you had aid and opened another link like say I give you just R [TS]

  in Safari and I saw that there was a little corner then I knew they don't [TS]

  open a new tab to a close one but what would happen if they'd be in mail click [TS]

  a link and it would go to Safari and it would like erased it would overwrite [TS]

  like the oldest tabloid had open but then I'd be like what was that maybe [TS]

  that was something important now it just keeps opening an opening an opening it [TS]

  doesn't magically keep them all in RAM you know the way that sometimes in all [TS]

  tabs you have open in Safari you have to have to reload it from the network [TS]

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  RAM because you know that you know actually only still 1 gigabyte of RAM [TS]

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  like so the tabs that have been erased from memory when you're paging through [TS]

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  always knew it was an annoyance that the ninth tab open safari would overwrite [TS]

  the first [TS]

  but now that I can keep you know I can have 12 13 14 open its what a great [TS]

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  conflict zone from the bottom [TS]

  you know that there's a lot of these things like like that and like [TS]

  multitasking that I really like in a kind of shows that even though Apple [TS]

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  details [TS]

  definitely I don't so you know that's a good question for you had concerns when [TS]

  when when the rumors were first coming out about the move away from school [TS]

  morphism you read a really good piece on on on the loop about how a you know [TS]

  you're a little worried about this if it's true you don't want to prejudge it [TS]

  you're gonna wait and see what they show you but you like you like the attention [TS]

  to detail i do what do you think about Iowa seven in that regard they still [TS]

  that's I guess that's the thing there's there are so many details that they [TS]

  looked at I really do like some of the disc in Norfolk elements that Apple and [TS]

  in its own way you know I the shredder in a spot you know stuff but it was cool [TS]

  then there's there's no way around it but they've replace that with I think [TS]

  more dynamics you know I know the people are are against the the icons flying in [TS]

  from behind or in front of the screen and I kinda like it I love it you know [TS]

  it it gives the the phone [TS]

  feeling of interaction with a you really having to do anything you press the [TS]

  button and watch it go and I i wouldn't want to get rid of that right I think [TS]

  one of the best ways to put it is maybe it's it's a DivX changed one style of [TS]

  flourishes for a different style of flourishes it's not though that they've [TS]

  gone plane [TS]

  right and and again I like Windows Phone if I had to use of some some phone other [TS]

  than an iPhone I would definitely no doubt in my mind choose probably a Nokia [TS]

  Windows Phone over any Android phone I really do like it better but I think [TS]

  Windows Phones flat look if you well if you want to use the F word and we all [TS]

  know how much we all of the effort I think they're look is plain and truly [TS]

  flat in a way that Apple's is not because a boy you know I can't emphasize [TS]

  enough to use Iowa 70 I think by the time the show airs a lot of you know [TS]

  there's a lot of people are gonna be like one or two days into iowa 7 it [TS]

  isn't flat it's it's the buttons are flat maybe but the actual interaction [TS]

  from the home screen to the app to Notification Center is very three [TS]

  dimensional its layered and I think it's and I think that the transitions the [TS]

  animations between those layers are just great and i think i think it really [TS]

  shows that they still sweat the details just like they used to [TS]

  when they were making the felt in Game Center really look as much like felt as [TS]

  they could it's just a different a different way [TS]

  yeah that's that is a great way to put it so you know do I miss the felt no I i [TS]

  dont it's it's that kind of interactivity of things leg I I like the [TS]

  familiarity of if I'm gonna do shred something I like to see a shredder I am [TS]

  I P stupid but I like to see a shredder I like the shredder too but you know [TS]

  they they focus on on different things now and you know what if you if you have [TS]

  the [TS]

  the five hours and I'm looking at it right now and if you tilt the screen [TS]

  you know the background will move and they have that takes power in the phone [TS]

  in order to get that done so you know i'm i'm happier than when I thought I [TS]

  would write good enough I here's a good question totally serious this one from [TS]

  Justin Hicks to the two of you believe Apple has much bigger plans for the [TS]

  fingerprint scanning technology that's a tough one because you know right now [TS]

  Apple has to be wary of all the info security experts out there in the fact [TS]

  that it's very safe but I would think that the the fingerprint would be a [TS]

  great thing to do i mean you can purchase with it and so i i think yes I [TS]

  think they definitely bigger plans now I think I like a lot of stuff without Paul [TS]

  don't don't get too caught up in like the next saved one two three four months [TS]

  take a bigger view maybe maybe a lot of it won't come out for a year until I O [TS]

  Si but I definitely think that they have bigger plans for it so one thing that [TS]

  was missing it was announced at WWDC in it was in all the seeds over summer of [TS]

  Iowa 7 was iCloud key chain which I thought was working pretty well for me [TS]

  is not in Iowa seven point zero or the just released a few hours ago seven [TS]

  point zero point one and they didn't mention it last week I heard and I saw a [TS]

  couple other people heard you know that doesn't even seem to be a secret that [TS]

  it's probably gonna come out with maverick's when Pakistan Mavericks 10.9 [TS]

  ships in a couple of weeks probably [TS]

  and that it will come back to Iowa seven then so it's not that they've got it [TS]

  done today abandoned its just wasn't quite ready right now [TS]

  well I mean in in actual fact that's what you need if you need Mavericks in [TS]

  order to really share along well it's not true though because what if what if [TS]

  you don't even have a Mac what if you just have an iPad and iPhone I to iCloud [TS]

  keychain is useful to you right now is today so I don't think you need [TS]

  Mavericks but you know apparently that's how they're going to how and when [TS]

  they're going to demo it but anyway I can't help but think that at some point [TS]

  in the future [TS]

  iCloud keychain combined with touch I D would be great [TS]

  right you know not now you know one Password is a great program and and I [TS]

  hope you know have a long future ahead of them but built into the OS wouldn't [TS]

  it be great if you need to fill in [TS]

  password in a website that you could just do it with their thumb injuries are [TS]

  absolutely i mean obviously you know I'm glad I don't have to be the guy [TS]

  designing this here because I used to be pretty good at math like high school but [TS]

  I'll tell you what I wasn't serious I need serious pressure too because you [TS]

  gotta get there right but you know Apple has smart people who can do it and I [TS]

  think that'd be great feature and you know the other big thing everybody is [TS]

  going to speculate about using your phone for payments you know going to [TS]

  Starbucks and buy a coffee in and pay for it by putting your scanner instead [TS]

  of you know I could bar codes again [TS]

  well here's here's something else do you allow third-party access to that I think [TS]

  so too but that could be the sort of thing right see it happening and let's [TS]

  say I was eight break points that they've had a year to shake some stuff [TS]

  out but I think yes I think bottom i just i think they're very big plans for [TS]

  the fingerprint scanning alright [TS]

  my comments you find you're using the new 5s camera features in daily use a [TS]

  more of a novelty like panorama I think burst mode is a daily thing I don't [TS]

  think I think unless europe subjects are like posing like in front of something [TS]

  and standing completely still there's no reason not to shoot a burst you know if [TS]

  the kids moving around or you're shooting like kids playing soccer or or [TS]

  you know if you're trying to get a still photo of your dog catching a frisbee [TS]

  the burst mode to me is a is an everyday I think that's why they made it it's not [TS]

  a mode you just hold down the shutter button right burst mode to me is is a [TS]

  game-changer III I know that that's a cliche but it really I think it really [TS]

  is I think it changes the way out take away it is particularly changes you know [TS]

  i i cant imagine using a third-party camera app to shoot photos you know [TS]

  whether I'm going to Instagram it or you know you some other apt to put the [TS]

  filter on I I already shot most of my photos using the built-in system camera [TS]

  and now I'll do it for sure because it's the only a person [TS]

  well and and clearly I like the feature you know I have instances where that [TS]

  will definitely come in handy [TS]

  you know you know what I would like to see and I i did point that I would like [TS]

  to see better night shots and low-light conditions shots yeah I think that's [TS]

  where they're really running into the physics you know that you know and you [TS]

  don't have to know what F stops are you don't know it's you know it's just [TS]

  simple physics [TS]

  the bigger the distance between the glass in the center of the moral the [TS]

  bigger the glass can be and the more glass there is the more like comes in [TS]

  and the bigger the distance the bigger the center itself can be a bigger [TS]

  centres can get a better exposure in low light than a small sensor now compare [TS]

  like that big honkin Canon SLR you saw me with last week the iPhone 5s and you [TS]

  see that there are serious just simple physical limitations I mean it's this [TS]

  tiny little lands and the center is only less than a quarter of an inch away [TS]

  amazing that it does as well as it does I would be surprised if they've got you [TS]

  know Apple in particular is working on truly revolutionary technology in that [TS]

  regard but the iPhone 5s is not it is improved it does take better low-light [TS]

  pictures but true as of yet as of 2013 there is no breakthrough technology that [TS]

  lets you take the sort of low-light pictures you could take with a SLR and a [TS]

  really fast lens on something this size I was when I was in London a couple [TS]

  weeks ago I went out for a walk it was like midnight went for a walk and ended [TS]

  up in Trafalgar Square and took a nice shot posted it on facebook and when I [TS]

  get back to the hotel later I looked at it and it was just it was crap you know [TS]

  grainy in awful and see this is where me not being a photographer I look at it [TS]

  and say no but I guess there's something called physics that is a good question [TS]

  lot of people asked about this so the big news with the five see again it's [TS]

  not an engineering difference it's a marketing and branding change from prior [TS]

  years but that alone that's not to diminish it I thought I love marketing [TS]

  and branding I think it's as important as an engineering upgrade like the 5s [TS]

  but they've clearly split the iPhone into a family of new products right like [TS]

  the way the MacBooks have the MacBook Airs and the MacBook Pros the way the [TS]

  desktops have IMAX and Mac Pros and now we have five sea and the 5s where you [TS]

  think the names are gonna go next year presumably presumably the high end one [TS]

  is going to be an iPhone 6 but what I i'm really loud applause i mean Apple's [TS]

  naming often confuses me I I honestly have no idea what to guess cause I I [TS]

  dunno I think that they're going to have now that they've split into their gonna [TS]

  have to dive into gonna have two new ones every year [TS]

  well they they pretty much have to write I think next year will see a new [TS]

  high-end phone that replaces the 50 S I think we will see in new mid-range phone [TS]

  that replaces the five see in my guesses the five seed today's 5 see will move [TS]

  down to the free with contract range and and then but what will they call them I [TS]

  really have no idea I don't know how to guess yeah and you know they could end [TS]

  up in naming convention trouble every year but will the figure something but [TS]

  yeah that's a good I mean they can't just name it well I suppose they could [TS]

  they could name in the sixth and the six see or do they go the sixty squared [TS]

  here's here's my best guess but I would not want to wager more than five bucks [TS]

  on it is that they would go to iPhone 6 just plain 60 letter and that's the new [TS]

  high-end one and that mid-range ones days plastic maybe they change up the [TS]

  colors and it would be called the iPhone 5 see s they've gone to letters before [TS]

  they had the 3G S but so I don't think would be unprecedented would be the five [TS]

  ccs would be like an iPhone 5 see but with the a seven and maybe the better [TS]

  camera with the burst mode and that's my best guess but I really don't know [TS]

  yeah it's a good guess very hard for me to get these names really confuse me and [TS]

  really almost it almost makes me happy that they've done with iPad they just [TS]

  call iPad and we just go for you know we the writers have to just go like fourth [TS]

  generation right here [TS]

  performance seems a little leg in my current gen iPod Touch I haven't spent a [TS]

  lot of time with iOS 7 now the iPod Touch is for ass caliber rifle and a [TS]

  five in fact I don't even think I installed it on my for us I think I kept [TS]

  my for s right I was six I sort of need my old iPhones down for testing [TS]

  yeah I've heard that from other people and in fact I like I've heard a couple [TS]

  they even you can get iPhone iOS 7 on the even on the iPhone 4 iOS and I've [TS]

  heard it's really pretty like there and that's that sucks for people who upgrade [TS]

  trusting Apple if it's true I i dont know tho personal yeah I don't know why [TS]

  there I've only installed it on a 55 and my iPad me and my my iPad I actually my [TS]

  iPad Mini is the one that I left Iowa sex blow up that but it wouldn't be the [TS]

  first time in fact it usually seems to be the case that whatever the least [TS]

  supported iPhone is for a new version of iOS it's a little leg yeah so I dunno [TS]

  not sure what to say about that sorry if that's what you think [TS]

  that's here's one that's a good one this ones from Amy Jane Gruber seriously [TS]

  what's the deal with the answer what's the deal with the answer in our shit I [TS]

  think one terror already answered that I guess that means for me not for you [TS]

  yeah I don't know we've got these little baby answered our shower and it doesn't [TS]

  seem like you know the pesticide I'm not sure what the deal is so sorry Amy [TS]

  income up Aaron showering Canada you know you can live in an igloo for a [TS]

  while no ends it what color iPhone 5s did you get told ya so that I want [TS]

  everybody to know not God black yeah I noticed that what's your take on the [TS]

  goal I love the gold I really do when when I first it was actually opposed [TS]

  that you link to when news of the champagne or gold first came out [TS]

  you rightly pointed to the fact that Apple had really school products before [TS]

  in an iPad Mini or a story on iPod mini right and it was ugly as hell on my car [TS]

  that thing was a good I am I remembered when when I clicked on your your link [TS]

  and I thought I never one of one of those and I was kinda I was worried but [TS]

  I i thought i get a given Apple's design credit and as soon as I saw definitely [TS]

  yeah I'm III the gold as far as I rode the gold is not my gripe with it I kinda [TS]

  like the gold it's the white I just don't like the white face around anymore [TS]

  I just like I like it when it's often just look like us black Irish I almost [TS]

  wish that they had four phones black with space grey white with silver white [TS]

  with gold and black with the cold I think the black with the gold could be a [TS]

  cool look you know I guess you're in your parlance it would be like a Boston [TS]

  Bruins look right that would be I need a while I was gonna say Pittsburgh [TS]

  Steelers but I was trying to put it in terms that you would understand I told [TS]

  them I wanted a purple phone I want a loop phone no no purple or purple with [TS]

  the help well you know what there's clearly there once they've now that [TS]

  they've gone plastic with the mid-range I think that there i mean whether they [TS]

  were whether they'll change the palate every year or not I don't know but [TS]

  there's almost an infant range of colors that they could go to now easily through [TS]

  a question from a reader but I didn't really mention this but I think looking [TS]

  at especially in hands-on area last week where you can look at all five of the [TS]

  five see colors together it's there so designed with the color palette of Iowa [TS]

  seven in mind it's you know I don't know like that's the one thing I know people [TS]

  complain about the icons and complain about this now when I was seven first [TS]

  came out but there were a lot of color complained about the color palette and i [TS]

  think is as the months have gone on everybody's sort of unless I'm missing [TS]

  something everybody sort of shut up about that I feel like they were just [TS]

  you know they're they're skating to where the puck [TS]

  was heading in terms of what colors are in and I think that the hardware and [TS]

  software are so clearly from the same design movement [TS]

  software are so clearly from the same design movement [TS]

  it's you know it's almost unprecedented album it may be the last time that the [TS]

  hardware and software seemed so clearly designed together was like the original [TS]

  IMAX those candy translucent plastics combined with the original version of [TS]

  Mac OS 10 the trash yeah I am I really like the way that the 25 °c feels it [TS]

  doesn't feel like plastic to me now it almost feels ceramic or an animal yeah [TS]

  and yeah that's it you know I had the same thought I have a Lumia 800 from [TS]

  Nokia here and I think that they're still making there's out of the same [TS]

  polycarbonate now they're they're gone a different route with their plastic [TS]

  there's has more of its its not polished in shiny it's more of a matte finish but [TS]

  it is without question the only phone I have held in years that rivals and [TS]

  iPhone 4 build quality and that's a good you know the mat is a you know but it's [TS]

  real [TS]

  just like the the five see it builds rigid and not like plastic it feels like [TS]

  something I don't know the word plastic has this cheap connotation that that the [TS]

  iPhone 5 seed doesn't feel like and that the Lumia is do not feel like even know [TS]

  the iPhones are very very glossy almost super glossy and the Lumineers are the [TS]

  opposite of glossy they're mad at two different ways to go but with modern [TS]

  materials whereas I think the old gold 3G 3G s kinda did feel plasticky in a [TS]

  cheap way you know somebody i I wasn't sure if I like the feel of the five see [TS]

  better than than the old ones or if I was somebody asked me this yesterday and [TS]

  I said yesterday felt more sturdy but then you know I responded back again and [TS]

  said they're they're two different shapes and you know when you're in my [TS]

  convincing myself that the 5 C's more sturdy or is it actually a sturdier [TS]

  phone I'm really do think it is earlier [TS]

  yeah I guess it will be up to the eye to take apart guys to to determine it but [TS]

  Apple talked about the fact that it has this rigid steel frame inside which I [TS]

  don't think that the 3G S had I don't think so you know I think that there's a [TS]

  steel frame inside here that you know that really does add a rigidity to the [TS]

  whole thing that you didn't have in the 3G 3G s you remember I told you that [TS]

  that when I went back to the home screen on my mi 5s that the icons jumped idea [TS]

  and I didn't put that in my review because I found a 10 was what was it [TS]

  it's the background so I 22 tested I opened up a folder so there's no no [TS]

  icons really to jump opened up a folder in the background moved so whether it's [TS]

  the way of holding the phone or you know maybe I tilt the phone down when i when [TS]

  i do it so the background moves and it looked like the icons were moving so [TS]

  look like a little video glitch or something when you when you went back to [TS]

  the the things when you were back to the home screen so yeah hey did you try the [TS]

  emotion that the moving wallpapers yeah are you using one I was using one up [TS]

  until last night I had the little you know the little bubbles and then I put a [TS]

  plan on their instant I found it just a little distracting yeah I did use it for [TS]

  a day though and it didn't seem to have any adverse effect on battery life I [TS]

  think I think that makes some say something maybe I'm a lot of sense [TS]

  because who spends a lot of time with their home screen open right it should [TS]

  only have backed the battery life while the home screens open and who really has [TS]

  the display on on the home screen for more than a few seconds at a time [TS]

  true it's nice and they don't know what's going on in the background either [TS]

  it's also interesting to me that the default wallpapers are not they've added [TS]

  this feature now [TS]

  have motion wallpapers but none of the default wallpapers are moving that's a [TS]

  little interesting to me because usually if your gonna add something like that [TS]

  you can use it by default i'm looking ahead and now I have the star system or [TS]

  whatever it is and it's moving I don't have the emotional I don't you know they [TS]

  look ok but I don't like I like the monochrome I like the real I feel like [TS]

  with the brighter and more vibrant icons having like of monochromatic background [TS]

  really makes the icon pop I'm going to try and that you don't like them but you [TS]

  advance in the shower to exactly you know here's jeff schwab on Twitter he [TS]

  says these ants never would have infiltrated the shower of Steve Jobs [TS]

  were still in charge thanks Obama yeah I guess he's right [TS]

  jobs or so let's see here who built the a seven processor [TS]

  good question and non thinks it's Samsung even though we're all sort of it [TS]

  there's so much speculation that this is the year that Apple has finally broken [TS]

  away from Samsung is there at CPU maker his best guess to Samsung and its be [TS]

  really tough for me to bet against a non yea I wouldn't I wouldn't bet against [TS]

  cause then he would call when asked me a question about the processors have to [TS]

  hang up so my guess is I think it's Samsung because a non says so but I'm [TS]

  hoping it's that TSM see because the house that would be very cool yeah but [TS]

  we'll find out I guess we'll find out tomorrow night because I as i fix it [TS]

  guys there I love those guys because they they fly they don't live there they [TS]

  fly out a book tickets to go to Australia by Lisa haven't past year that [TS]

  I know they're doing it this year but the last few years they booked tickets [TS]

  to go to Australia because that is where the International Date Line is that for [TS]

  the iPhone for his goes on sale to get one first and start their habit like [TS]

  taking apart [TS]

  before 8 a.m. Eastern Time in the USA even rolls around so I hope we will find [TS]

  out some answers on that probably within 24 hours but I don't know what to guess [TS]

  there's no I have no information and I asked around a little bit and got zero [TS]

  answer apple just does not talk about the suppliers even if they know that you [TS]

  know i fix its gonna take this thing apart in 48 hours they won't tell you [TS]

  off the record they just do not talk about it [TS]

  absolutely not there's actually a good follow-up here how does touch I D work [TS]

  when you swipe over a specific notification so when you're on the home [TS]

  screen in your phone is locked and there's no one email at of 10 the you [TS]

  want to read if you swipe on that email in your hand you bring up the you know [TS]

  the pad the passcode the passcode and then you just rest your thumb on the on [TS]

  the center of the fingerprint sensor and it'll open up directly into that message [TS]

  rights but the first like you ordinarily would and instead of entering the code [TS]

  you do the thing also a nice touch on power in touch I D if you buy habit [TS]

  start entering your passcode and then wait why am I doing this all just you've [TS]

  ended like two out of the four digits why am I doing this you touch the home [TS]

  button it still works like you don't have you know the test and the and the [TS]

  animation films in the dots on your code which I touch ya so that you know I was [TS]

  Daniel middle COAG as I one that's actually a good one I found that 10 by [TS]

  mistake as I often do that you know you get a message and I i want to read it [TS]

  all go directly to that one [TS]

  yeah it's actually very much the same as it was when you used to pass could you [TS]

  just you just do the touch I T one once you get to the passcode screen whereas [TS]

  if you just want to open the iPhone you don't even have to get to the basket [TS]

  screen you just turn the phone on in [TS]

  and touch the sensor lights and in case anybody is wondering you can add [TS]

  multiple finger prints to yes and they don't have to know obviously they don't [TS]

  all have to be yours like I wrote you could do both your thumbs both index [TS]

  fingers and let your spouse had one just you know for emergency purposes if you [TS]

  had a yellow banana yellow iPhone 5 Siena banana which would you put in your [TS]

  pants I i think is easier than you put one in the one right pocket one unless [TS]

  it seems seems easy to me thank you Mike a great question from Thomas Richards [TS]

  fingerprint scanner on iPad yes or no [TS]

  say this year's iPad that's a good question I i say yes I'm gonna say I [TS]

  hope so but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is no you know I can I wonder [TS]

  here then here's why say that is just because of that mantra of our most [TS]

  forward-thinking iPhone yet you know and forward-thinking forward-thinking they [TS]

  keep saying that which makes me wonder if how much that some of this stuff [TS]

  isn't coming to other iOS devices until next year [TS]

  well I will say this just just to be perfectly clear I know nothing about you [TS]

  know fingerprint thing on on the new iPad but I'll go yes because I think [TS]

  even though the iPhone is the most forward-thinking product they've known [TS]

  about it for some time and I think that they would've yeah and it could be too [TS]

  that it may be it appears on the full-size iPad but not the iPad Mini or [TS]

  or some other way that they will tear the iPad similarly where the [TS]

  lower-priced models don't have it but the higher price months do I can see [TS]

  that [TS]

  there's nothing I heard today this is scuttlebutt does not from Mike [TS]

  second hand but it does make sense is that the 64 bit and the arm V eight that [TS]

  whole move on the a seven had to happen for touch I D that touch I D can only [TS]

  work with the arm V eight and 64 bit they couldn't do touch idea until they [TS]

  did that and and the explanation i think is because one of the promise advantages [TS]

  of R&B eight is that the instruction set now has cryptographic shortcuts that [TS]

  some of the common cryptographic algorithms are built into the CPU so [TS]

  instead of actually computing the math the traditional way it's just a short [TS]

  cut where if your code needs to do you know a yes [TS]

  256 bit encryption it's it's an instruction code right on the processor [TS]

  and it just goes through and so that that's one of those things that helps [TS]

  make touch I D instantaneous because none of this stuff is it can emphasize [TS]

  this enough there are no pictures of your thumb print or fingerprint stored [TS]

  anywhere right it's it's an encrypted I D where your thumb print is part of what [TS]

  makes the I D but that the whole thing gets computed instantly and that you [TS]

  know so I don't know if that's true but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it is [TS]

  true and that touch I D will only appear as devices get the a seven [TS]

  system-on-a-chip [TS]

  I wouldn't be surprised at all if that in fact I you know why what's the point [TS]

  of making new iPad this year if at least the high end ones don't go to the a [TS]

  seven and so if I go to the 87 who knows maybe maybe the touch I D center is not [TS]

  that that relatively expensive and so maybe it's a no-brainer yeah of course I [TS]

  i just i think it will end maybe it'll be some you know layering of of how they [TS]

  do it but you know the way that they didn't if you look at next year you know [TS]

  they have the the five ccs as you mentioned earlier then it'll definitely [TS]

  got it yeah this one gets it because it's already so worked up perfectly yeah [TS]

  so anyway I'm I think the answer is probably / hopefully this year for the [TS]

  iPad and definitely eventually next year at the latest I pedaled definitely have [TS]

  to touch a touch a deal within two years will be on all all iPhones and iPads no [TS]

  doubt it's you know it's absolutely the future of logging into your device [TS]

  here's the thing I was told by Apple and I believe it is that over the course of [TS]

  developing touch I D they actually had to dial back the places where you still [TS]

  have to enter your passcode and your store I D because they realized that if [TS]

  you never had to enter it you'd forget it right that you you know you only get [TS]

  to use touch idea if you set up a pass code or password if your passphrase if [TS]

  you want the longer one for your phone but if they let you log into without [TS]

  ever having to use it like for example if you turn your power your phone all [TS]

  the way off and empowered on you have to enter the code after a code before you [TS]

  can login using your thumb and I they had it set up at some point where you [TS]

  could just once you set up some you can always use the thumb but they realized [TS]

  that the people who did that they've they forgot their baskets kinda funny [TS]

  that is kind of funny and and you know what today I went to buy something on [TS]

  the App Store and asked me for two to manually put in my my passcode even [TS]

  though I do I and activated they purchased by some so what's what's up in [TS]

  like a week maybe maybe a pops up every now and then and yeah I'm not sure what [TS]

  I'm not sure what the rule is [TS]

  it's a timing thing for my friend that irons as I know he asked yesterday in [TS]

  the Verizon iPhone walk and chew gum at the same time meaning when you're on a [TS]

  phone call to use can you still get LTE date can you get LTE data or does it [TS]

  drop back to edge in the bad news is I've tested this it cannot it still [TS]

  enjoy when you're honest cell phone call on Verizon data drops to edge [TS]

  well you know but good thing for me I don't I don't make a lot of voice calls [TS]

  and we don't anymore do we know and you know what's interesting now that I was [TS]

  seven thousand everybody I know is going to upgrade I'm interested to know how [TS]

  many of the voice calls I do make will go as voice only FaceTime calls yeah and [TS]

  a the quality should be way better and be because that's just data it'll still [TS]

  be it'll still have you know it will solve that problem when you make a voice [TS]

  only FaceTime call instead of an official phone call you know you'll [TS]

  you'll you'll work around that problem but now Verizon users my test units were [TS]

  both on Verizon know the Verizon doesn't work it it's funny animal when you look [TS]

  at boys calls I mean it's to the point now where I my daughter she's twenty she [TS]

  thinks that you know something's catastrophe must have happened if [TS]

  there's an actual voice call why wouldn't you just text when someone even [TS]

  answers [TS]

  my life never it's a chance for me to anybody else calls or nobody said she [TS]

  says she never answers her phone in never listen to voicemail she's got a [TS]

  red badge on the phone at this as a hundred and forty-seven lovett hey how's [TS]

  your question for you so I guess Apple I never thought about this but your review [TS]

  units are they there they're set up for Lake Bell Canada or whatever the hell [TS]

  you have up there no I actually have [TS]

  I've had an AT&T account for about 15 years and I just works [TS]

  yeah yeah I don't know that there's a question from joan barone on a boning [TS]

  Adam McQuaid sure how to pronounce his name he just updated 7 the launch and [TS]

  close a ban emissions time waster ways to turn off sorry five years haven't [TS]

  looked at as far as I know there is no way to turn them off I don't know maybe [TS]

  inaccessibility I don't know if there's like a sea sickness setting or something [TS]

  like that but I don't think their time wasters I you know I guess some people [TS]

  are annoyed by them but I think that day I think that they're pleasant cause to [TS]

  me they give you a sense of place in the OS yeah I like them so I like them too [TS]

  and it's a multitasking love multitasking there you know the way that [TS]

  you go into it the way they you get out of it the other way it's sort of like a [TS]

  half there's like that the home screen and when you're in an app which is full [TS]

  screen and multitasking exists like halfway in between the two which i think [TS]

  is perfect conceptually what was it that West had these kind of multitasking [TS]

  hikers yes I thought it was great very satirist and it's you know and like [TS]

  flicking the things the closing is kind of fun same thing with hook in the tabs [TS]

  in Safari to close them right on yeah it's a question from David E [TS]

  good friend I met him at Webb stock decir to develop given the scale of [TS]

  changes needed to support iOS 7 when will Apple stopped accepting apps linked [TS]

  against iOS 6 [TS]

  let me think about that I think it's gonna be pretty pretty median I think no [TS]

  no [TS]

  in other words they might stay might stop accepting IOUs six only apps ones [TS]

  that aren't native 47 but but when would they stop accepting apps that also [TS]

  supports six you know when I think that might be a ways off yet honestly I do [TS]

  because I think that there are even know even though I expect you know just like [TS]

  with iOS 6 which reads like 95% of the iOS installed base I expect I was 72 [TS]

  within a few months be running on ninety-plus percent of iOS devices at [TS]

  which point I think a reasonable developer could say it im just gonna [TS]

  erased the hassles of supporting both and just go I S seven only there are [TS]

  institutions that that even though that makes sense to me I think that [TS]

  culturally there are places where they're like no no no we want everybody [TS]

  so we're gonna still you know linked I was 6 or iOS 5 even or something like [TS]

  that so I think it'll be awhile before Apple doesn't let you do that but I [TS]

  think you know conversely let me flip the question around I don't think [TS]

  developers should hesitate to go Iowa 7 only I thought I think it eliminates [TS]

  hassles I don't think you lose many users I think the users you do lose are [TS]

  not your best customers and there are so many cool things and Iowa 7 like text [TS]

  kit that it just makes you know you can't use it can't really can't dive [TS]

  into text and still support our sex yeah and the background updates if you have [TS]

  an app that downloads content from the web I mean there's so much stuff I was [TS]

  seven is such a great update yeah I think developers shouldn't wait for [TS]

  Apple to make them drop iOS 6 just dropping go ahead I I couldn't agree [TS]

  more I've said that you know about every major update you know how far back [TS]

  should we go to put it really it depends on on what kind of cool features you [TS]

  want to offer your users as a developer and you know as a user I want you to [TS]

  make the best out you can have that means you're going i 07 only do it [TS]

  yeah the absolute best you can and I think that's what I think that's what [TS]

  iPhone customers want to really do I think that's the reason they picked up [TS]

  funds in the first place [TS]

  please advise on blaming or gunmetal spacey color thanks guys can't wait for [TS]

  the show that's from Rob Richmond lemme know it's really hard to recommend that [TS]

  without you know if the people who want to order at midnight without having seen [TS]

  them in person cuz I wanna get it ASAP [TS]

  you know you're gonna have to go with your gut all I can say about the gold [TS]

  you really like it all and say it's it's as nice as gold could be I wouldn't the [TS]

  golden keep me from getting it and if I were going to get one of somebody said [TS]

  to me you can't get black you have to get one of the two with the white face [TS]

  I'd go with the gold just because I think it looks cool and it's kinda new [TS]

  but it is not looking like it doesn't look like Donald Trump's phone right and [TS]

  that's part of what I was afraid of me personally I like the black and I think [TS]

  the Black is an up and really nice upgrade over last year's which I still [TS]

  like my phone last year the best way I can put it in a cup of tea in a couple [TS]

  I'm not the only person is observed this to me and this is I haven't seen the [TS]

  black one in a week having seen it since I was in the hands on area [TS]

  last week in Cupertino but you know it in hindsight and I studied a lot there [TS]

  it really reminds me of the original iPhone the 2007 one with the black face [TS]

  and the black plastic on the back for the antenna and that silver you know [TS]

  sort of you know metal back it it's sort of being black colored its dark metal [TS]

  colored yeah if you like black phone you're gonna love the space great one [TS]

  none of them look bad now if you took i five of those gold ones and put them [TS]

  around her neck on a chain yeah yeah somebody's gonna do that somebody's [TS]

  gotta do that you can get it blaming you can definitely bring it up a little but [TS]

  it's not easy don't look at it that also video shot at 120 frames per second can [TS]

  export playback at a hundred and twenty frames per second I don't know like I [TS]

  think it would if you like if you if you share it I i I could be wrong here this [TS]

  is from Eric van quill esquire doesn't look like an esquire judging by his his [TS]

  Twitter idea but I'll give it classy guy with anybody there squire after you [TS]

  question I think the way it works is if you export like through the sharing menu [TS]

  it's going two down sampled at 30 frames per second and and turn the slow mo you [TS]

  know it all be 30 frames per second I think if you just connected as a USB [TS]

  device and use iPhoto or [TS]

  image capture or whatever the whatever that thing is that the thing that just [TS]

  sucks photos off the camera and camera the camera yeah but it can capture it [TS]

  all come off as just the raw data so it will come off I think as a hundred and [TS]

  twenty frames per second I can't imagine that it wouldn't just you know I [TS]

  actually didn't do that I'm trying to log in and look for the for the movie [TS]

  that I posted and see what it is [TS]

  will be moved on by the time I get there any issues with battery life on the [TS]

  iPhone 5 Ars Technica tests show its way worse and I've had similar issues i [TS]

  presume that means with an old iPhone 5 upgraded to iOS 7 I haven't done [TS]

  extensive testing I like I said I've been running iOS 7 on my main iPhone all [TS]

  summer long since beta three things since July tired I didn't notice any [TS]

  real difference no improvement no worsening of battery life over the [TS]

  summer and I you know I did a lot of vacations in and traveling over summer [TS]

  so I actually use my iPhone lot and have any problems but I don't doubt if I was [TS]

  technique as test the show that whereas I don't know but I didn't think it was [TS]

  bad I actually did have some some problems starting off but that was you [TS]

  know that was one of these pages and I to be honest I am really worried about I [TS]

  had won I guess I should say I had one and I again I just chalk this up to [TS]

  being bad I had one last month where I got the 20% warning words like I first [TS]

  time I got the warning said hey you're down warning you're down to twenty [TS]

  percent and the battery on ran [TS]

  and then the phone shut down you know when you get 20 literally about 30 [TS]

  seconds later like it went from twenty 20 and 30 seconds and I thought wow [TS]

  that's scary and i charged it up and then ever since I never saw that happen [TS]

  again but I you know but that to me is what happens when you install the beta [TS]

  exactly and and since I am with the 25 ass I noticed a lot better battery life [TS]

  with the the updated version of of Iowa seven because you don't know what's on [TS]

  in the background in in these babies I'm in the you know the good of debugging [TS]

  stuff they could have you know all kinds of stuff going on and I think it matters [TS]

  to as to what else you have turned on what apps have you granted location [TS]

  tracking privileges to bluetooth on and what are you allowing two to connect to [TS]

  you by blue tooth I know I I have about one of those people watches and I really [TS]

  didn't like it I didn't write about it just because it maybe I will when I [TS]

  speculate more about watches in the future but anyway long story short I [TS]

  definitely notice and didn't see anybody else complain about it I definitely [TS]

  knows that just pairing the Pebble watch with my iPhone really hurt battery life [TS]

  on my phone and it was you know I don't get a lot of phone calls or texts all [TS]

  day so it wasn't like there were tons of notifications going back and forth just [TS]

  pairing them I noticed a noticeable difference so I guess it depends only [TS]

  got ya I tend to keep everything a lot of things off and I don't know my email [TS]

  check in the background I'm now having died fight for five or six years I just [TS]

  check email when I open the mail I have that stuff on I I have wifi on Bluetooth [TS]

  you know i i turn off when I'm traveling yeah but you do need Bluetooth rare drop [TS]

  though that's a reason to keep bluetooth on but I think if you just turn [TS]

  bluetooth on but don't care anything you know and just wait and use it for air [TS]

  drop it shouldn't really have much of an effect that's true to get back to ask [TS]

  wires question the videos that I exported from my iPhone using slow mo [TS]

  expert exported in H 264 568 by 320 fps 30 which used to export them the iPhone [TS]

  yeah yeah that makes sense I think if you connected to the call again cut them [TS]

  and image capture image capture yeah that I think they'll come off as just [TS]

  the Royal hundred twenty-three per second video and in the the data rate [TS]

  was a 26 per second so you know it's not a high def movi but that's not what they [TS]

  were going for either here's another question seemed I think we'll ask where [TS]

  does the flashlight light up both LEDs yes how hard is the leather case to [TS]

  remove not too hard but I found kinda hard cuz I'm put it on I did because [TS]

  when I was walking around the first few days especially when I saw in San [TS]

  Francisco where more people know me and and more people are tech-savvy I did not [TS]

  want anybody to ask me about that god damn cold iPhone the rules of reviewing [TS]

  it [TS]

  are you are you are allowed to they want you to use it I mean it's not you know [TS]

  i'd get you get in any trouble if somebody says hey John Gruber has a cold [TS]

  I found I saw you supposed to use it [TS]

  you're not supposed to show it off you can't let other people touch it I just [TS]

  don't even wanna bother putting in a case with just make sure you know I [TS]

  wanted to try the case I found it a little hard to take out off and then [TS]

  I'll but I think in a good way where its icon solid the robbery case the silicon [TS]

  case for the [TS]

  the 5 C's really easy to get on and off though because its stretchy as opposed [TS]

  to the other 12 today and as the flashlight light up but yes it does [TS]

  here's Ryan Jones Ryan Jones asks predict 5 a sellout time one minute III [TS]

  I don't think it's going to be very constrained yeah although you know what [TS]

  is sell-out like if it you know it's gonna dropped I think it's gonna drop to [TS]

  you know to two weeks very quickly 'cause who knows I mean it doesn't even [TS]

  go on sale to the 22 knows what the first person who gets their order and [TS]

  who knows what the delivery time is that Apple hasn't said for online stuff i [TS]

  mean obviously if you really want one on the twenty at the only way to do it is [TS]

  to get in line at an Apple store right I thought I think yesterday were where I [TS]

  think AllThingsD a report from carriers that said that they got like [TS]

  ridiculously small shipment of 5 S's well don't you know don't forget that [TS]

  Tim Cook even said I mean this isn't speculation Tim Cook said specifically [TS]

  earlier this year that they would like to sell a higher proportion of iPhones [TS]

  through their own stores you know you know that that the carriers got fewer [TS]

  doesn't mean that Apple stores will have fewer exactly right yeah I mean my [TS]

  invite people read the worst into this stuff and not always the worst it is [TS]

  gonna be tight though there's no doubt in my mind that I know for a fact that's [TS]

  why they didn't take pre-orders of it because it's going to be tight it harder [TS]

  to make and who knows what the reason is that the a seven is it the touch [TS]

  IdeaCentre is it both who knows but it's you know it's new it's new components [TS]

  there and they're in their enduring demand it could be something as simple [TS]

  as they may not last minute change yeah and you know start over again but if you [TS]

  want one on day one and you want to go to get up early and go to retail stores [TS]

  don't think that hey everybody is going to go to the Apple store so I'll go to [TS]

  Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or whatever [TS]

  and beat the Lions I think that's the wrong way to do it I think if you really [TS]

  want a one your best bet is to bite the bullet and get up in the middle of the [TS]

  night and get in line at your local Apple store because the Apple Store is [TS]

  gonna have a lot more than the carriers agreed is Apple done with school morphic [TS]

  designed for good is there room for NIOS CGI books I think I'll tell you what [TS]

  this year I expect a new version of iBooks probably at the iPad event I'm [TS]

  surprised we didn't get it already I guess maybe they're waiting for the iPad [TS]

  event I don't know but I would be shocked if they don't redesign iBooks [TS]

  along the lines of newsstand where they get rid of this school morphism is it [TS]

  gone for good [TS]

  i mean you know forever is a long time and you know fashion moves in cycles I I [TS]

  hope it's not at all I think it will start coming back in small doses you [TS]

  know I think part of what brought the end of it was that it it was taken to [TS]

  its logical conclusion where it couldn't get any more secure morphic right into [TS]

  screens and the incredible color fidelity of these iOS devices you know [TS]

  it couldn't get any more so I think it was taken to an extreme and then they [TS]

  you know dial it back I think that you know it's almost like a dial that went [TS]

  all the way around 20 and now it'll start picking up the other way I guess [TS]

  yep I hope so i i dont wanna see them get rid of it all together it's so hard [TS]

  to detect fashion trends in the short term you have to kind of take a [TS]

  long-term look let's see might be wrapping up you see any other good [TS]

  questions I don't sorry if I missed your good question I'm sure that it was great [TS]

  and it's my fault that I missed it if you're out there and you did send send a [TS]

  question [TS]

  go and see the new Notification Center I think I I found it too I find it to be [TS]

  very useful I think it the reorganization of it is is better to [TS]

  me I like Notification Center on on iOS and the Mac I I find it to be very [TS]

  useful features another one of those things that that fixes a pain point for [TS]

  me you know one that I didn't really know that there was a fix for I I can be [TS]

  working on either a Mac OS and get a notification to his clients up and see [TS]

  ok it's nothing I have to worry about and then keep working instead of [TS]

  stopping going to email and saying I was at the email from where I was waiting [TS]

  for no its not then go back and you know you kinda luger your train you know the [TS]

  momentum is gone at that point especially if you get a lot of emails or [TS]

  tweets or whatever so I love it is Marcus Mendes asks if Iowa seven in [TS]

  touch I D might be a way to seamlessly switch between Profiles in energy URL I [TS]

  don't have time to read it but I'm guessing what he means a sort of like [TS]

  multiple user accounts I would say touch I D maybe but not with Iowa 7 I was [TS]

  seven is clearly still like all previous versions of violence a single user OS at [TS]

  some point in the future could it switched to a multi users thing again [TS]

  could it be tied to like for let's say like a school system with you know some [TS]

  kind of cloud storage so that you know any kid could pick up any iPad in the [TS]

  classroom and use their fingerprint to get their stuff i think im a cool yeah I [TS]

  think sure I don't think it's an Iowa 7 thing I think that's you know in the [TS]

  future but that's the sort of cool thing that he could could could foreshadow [TS]

  yeah there is an interesting one [TS]

  Daniel read I planned to use my 5s is a completely under tethered device [TS]

  Neversink over USB pros and cons I think that's how I use my now I know what I [TS]

  will jump in and I'm gonna say I find restoring from an iCloud backup to be a [TS]

  pain in the ass really yeah because it seems to me like my am never quite done [TS]

  downloading all the apps you know like first download your data but doesnt [TS]

  download download your apps the apps then come back from the store not from [TS]

  the backup [TS]

  and it doesn't get them all and the student from me [TS]

  yeah I I did do my 5s like that through when I call back up in the in the hotel [TS]

  and there were some apps yet it didn't download I wasn't too concerned about [TS]

  the apps because they were trying I don't even know what happened was that [TS]

  should be downloading them from iCloud as they were purchased as well now the [TS]

  way that it works though is your I claim this is smart in some ways where the [TS]

  apps don't count against your back up because hey white why bother you know [TS]

  we're not gonna take up your precious 20 gigs or whatever you've paid for iCloud [TS]

  storage for apps because we've got him into store it's a two-step process for [TS]

  the first step is your data which is the most important thing and then it sinks [TS]

  absent downloads and from the store in the same thing with music that you've [TS]

  bought with like iTunes Match it's like a separate process but it's there's [TS]

  there's no good indication of how far along is in restoring it and just like [TS]

  you I i get these review units while I'm traveling San Francisco and I'm stuck on [TS]

  hotel wifi and it's it's good enough to get my data and stuff like my email [TS]

  accounts reconfigured in mail which alone is a huge concern Venus you know [TS]

  set up for different email accounts and type it on but to actually download the [TS]

  apps it's sort of a pain in the ass but I you know in general if you know that's [TS]

  mostly how I use mine the only time I ever even think about connecting my i [TS]

  phone to USB is to back up and restore just to get all the apps quicker than i [TS]

  can download them from iTunes yeah I don't i dont have wifi sync on anymore I [TS]

  don't have any I i remember being excited about wi-fi sync I didn't even [TS]

  use it anymore I don't use I obviously you know you plug it in to charge and I [TS]

  because my computer is always with me when I'm at home it's it's very [TS]

  convenient so I i plug it in to charge of but nothing happens in iTunes [TS]

  you know it pops up and iTunes but it doesn't sync you know that's that's [TS]

  awfully it it just I called all the time I don't even do anything but I am I [TS]

  think it's you know it's certainly the future and I do you could probably I [TS]

  think you probably do well doing it like that today [TS]

  yeah here's a quick question from Zack Khan good question any word on white [TS]

  airdrop only works on iOS iOS and not by OS to iOS or Mac my best guess I do not [TS]

  have an answer but my best guess is just wait I think it will I think it's almost [TS]

  inevitable that all work I can't imagine that they give the feature the same name [TS]

  and not having worked together yet [TS]

  yeah I don't know what technical problem kept them from getting it to work [TS]

  together yet it just seems like an obvious thing i think thats about it is [TS]

  one last question it's from Christine gamble I think this questions for you [TS]

  why are you so perfect you know I get asked me why I think that that question [TS]

  would probably be best asked of many can Amy Jane and I wouldn't want to be [TS]

  around for the answer [TS]

  never smelled all the farts in my office I'm not perfect I'm gorges but better [TS]

  question or even better somebody else i cant members need somebody asked how [TS]

  come you're your laugh is not one of the new ringtones is she [TS]

  it should be a purple phone with a laugher ringtone Apple would sell fifty [TS]

  million but now they don't know what they're doing alright Jim Dalrymple [TS]

  thank you very much what a great show and thank you everybody out there sent [TS]

  those questions in a lot of those were good [TS]

  and for all the ones we missed I'll try to answer them on Twitter instead but [TS]

  thanks thanks [TS]