239: The Colour Blue
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the incomparable number 239 mar 2015
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welcome back to be uncomfortable I am
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Jason L so this is not I hope trend but
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our second in about five weeks of of
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tributes to people who have recently
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terry pratchett the great writer sir
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terry pratchett passed away recently and
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we've convened a group of people who
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have read a bunch of terry pratchett
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stuff to talk about it i'm not actually
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one of those people so i'm going to fade
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into the background after introducing to
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you these fine members of our panel
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we're going to talk in this episode Lisa
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Schmeisser is out there hi lisa is great
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to be here Monty ashley is their
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haimanti hi Jason
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you should read terry pratchett I should
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read more vibrant I've read somebody
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should read more
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I i look forward to hearing you tell me
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what episodes or what episodes what
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books i should read dan more'n hello
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nice to be here wish it was under better
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yeah absolutely and Steve let's say
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Jason glad to be here wish it was like
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Dan you know a happier time I wish these
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guys would stop dying
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yeah it out make it to make yeah exactly
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enough already with the tribute episodes
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ok yes I suppose we could do aunty
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tribute episode that's your dad
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oh yeah she so Lisa Monty you guys had
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some ideas about what the the subjects
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what where where where you guys want to
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get started i think actually Monty had a
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really good one that I remember which is
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pratchett is an example of why you
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shouldn't start with his earliest work
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and go chronologically you should find
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another starting point and I've and true
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although some of us do that anyway just
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because you're obsessive compulsive and
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we felt we need to do or because we
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actually like red him as he updated in
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real time because i got to practice in
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the eighties of all things so yeah so
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did I yeah i just i checked my copy of
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the colour of magic and it is a first
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although it's a first-edition us
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paperback which probably doesn't count
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mhm but it was printed in the US before
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even the light fantastic so yeah I
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started right at the beginning
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yeah I did do although i think I someone
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so like I got that is a library book I
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reading it at camp and over somebody
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gave it to me I mean my mom might like
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based on a recommendation from someone
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else in my family I couldn't say who
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recommended me but i think i read that
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as I got 10 year olds or something
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yes somebody in high school loaned me
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knowing that I was a hitchhiker's fan
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just you know showed up one day with a
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copy of I think it's a first edition
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hardcover of the light fantastic which
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he he loaned me and which I still
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actually have so Chris Hayes if you're
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out there i got you both haha what's
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probably worth a lot more right now I
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think that's how a lot of us got into it
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is somebody sees you reading douglas
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adams and they go if you like wacky
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british authors here here is the next
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one your list because that's the
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concessionaire at the pool i worked out
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in the summer of like 99 was like I
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think you'll really enjoy these and
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handed me the first two but sadly I
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never actually read that copy of the
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book i started in on it realized it was
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the second you know in in that
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particular book starts in the middle of
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the action where I think everything's
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ruined is plummeting to earth with his
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chest and I thought I guess I should
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probably read the first book and then I
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just never quite got around to finding
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it and tell much much later just a few
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years ago and and felt as I mentioned
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that I had to start at the beginning
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which you know was was a little bit of
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rust letting but I have no memory of why
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I got the colour of magic or why I liked
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it so much because I've reread it
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several times since then and it's
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basically just three unconnected
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pastiche is stuck together
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what is startling if you read the first
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the first two especially in the new go
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and you read right in the middle after
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he's introduced the watch and done some
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serious world-building and it's hard to
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believe that they come from the same
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mind almost like the first two books are
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almost as if they're rough drafts and
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they feel almost reactionary like they
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were written reaction too high-minded
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British fantasy and then for me the
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turning point actually was equal rights
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where he introduces s Karina and Granny
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Weatherwax and you and it's still very
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wizard centric but it broadens the world
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a little bit that's only the third book
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so he did not like what yeah it's fair
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to say that those verse two books i
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think are much more permanent or parody
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than serious books and then at some
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point he as you said
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this book because it's vignettes and
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because it's just like you know straight
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up parody without much story it all
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behind it actually reads more like some
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episodic submissions to dragon magazine
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it's really interesting to go back and
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read the book he wrote before the colour
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of magic strata we asked Ron to the 10
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years world and explains one of the
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jokes in the book that he didn't put the
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punchline in which is the reason there's
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a bar called the broken drum it can't be
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haha of course is that why they
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destroyed the broken drum
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well the broken drum gets burned down in
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the colour of magic editor-in-chief
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every time you go to have more apart
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from that on if the mehndi drum which he
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also never explains yeah well you have
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to explain it they built it after they
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it's been to know oh yeah that's that
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but one of the things I've found when i
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try to explain this world to people who
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are who are not hardcore fantasy people
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is is you don't have to read them in
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order and you can actually kind of read
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them in somatic groups and you still get
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a fairly rich experience and to me
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that's really gratifying because having
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slot my way through a lot of sequential
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series where if you happen to find book
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number four in the library but you have
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13 and you're like ah it's gratifying to
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say look you don't have to sweat just
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start with guards guards and then read
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about the city watch will start with
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which or start with them
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Weird Sisters and you can rejoin through
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the witches or you can read one of the
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stand-alones like pyramids or moving
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pictures to see how you like the tone of
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Discworld and then jump in and I
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appreciated how he had what we're
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basically like four or five distinct
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groups of characters that he kind of had
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moving in tandem and sometimes they
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interact or sometimes they mentioned
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each other but it doesn't all tie in and
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this way you can kind of pick and choose
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your your-your-your discworld experience
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if you're so inclined
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it's not really a giant wheel at I'm
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style 30 book series most Americans are
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standalone yeah or as Lisa said thematic
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you know in terms of there are
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characters they get followed so like I
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mean I started reading while all the
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rincewind books because as a you know
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teenagers prejean or whatever that
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really tickled my fan
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see because I just on the whole area so
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that point but you know like and I never
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really got into the I never really got
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into the witches as much in the act like
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that's one of the things like sort of
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favor I'd save that because you know as
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I think I said on Twitter when I heard
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that he passed away was you know I saved
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some terry pratchett books knowing that
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at some point there would be no more
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Terry Pratchett books but i have also
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been like sort of you know slightly
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introduced to some of those characters
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via the Tiffany aching books too because
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they play person that as well so it's
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they all everything is connected in this
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world universe but it's not like it as
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you're saying it's not like I a you know
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30 series but 30 book series where you
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have to like start at the beginning and
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read all the way through to the end and
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one of the things I like in the sounds
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mean but I like that a lot of the
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characters don't like each other like
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boys find liquid it just does not does
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not care for vines and the feeling is
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more than mutual cut it in and I
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appreciate that because although i do
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like the watch books a lot effort i sort
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of feel like vines gets a tad very
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suited towards the end of it and I don't
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and I don't and I want to stress I don't
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mind because I do like the books but
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after awhile I was like okay exactly how
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many times can you make him the Duke of
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something or promote him higher and
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people tell me what a great copy is and
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he's managed to solve the equivalent of
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stray from the Middle East and he's
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managed to help emancipate a country
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that wasn't the that was in the throes
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of the equivalent of the Taliban and now
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he's managed to stop slavery and human
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trafficking and and like that can only
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happen so many times and it's nice one
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other characters like yeah he's kind of
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he's kind of a jerk but that's really
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interesting to watch happen because at
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the beginning of the Nights Watch
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volumes is drunk
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the city is a mistress finds a
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protagonist but it really felt to me
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like carrot was wear anything focus of
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yeah he's not only so there's only so
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far you can go with that character
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because they both fall into the same you
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know eventual thing of their kind of
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their paladin's right like there's a
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lawful goodness about them that you
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can't necessarily like carrot has
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nowhere to go because he already starts
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is like the you know Gio shucks like
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perfectly good guys so it's not as
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though he has a lot of room to grow
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things actually yeah it does his life is
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in jeopardy from the right with the
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running joke is that everybody knows he
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supposed to be the rightful king of
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Lanka more pork and he hasn't
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so interested he's now I just rather be
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a cop and have my world girlfriend and
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both times that is it just once or is it
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twice because oh because there is some
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the moment the gun where and Dragon King
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of Arms the vampire who keeps the
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breeding books like they tried to pull
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the conspiracy that put carried on the
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throne he's genuinely confused as to why
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anybody would want to do that when
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things are working so well and I i like
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that they said okay we've got it Terry
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Pratchett took this this fantasy
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convention that is so so threadbare is
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to practically be mesh and which is oh
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it's that the family prince who comes
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back to reclaim his legacy and in this
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case the family prints came back fell in
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love with the city and was like I can
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best serve the city by serving under
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somebody who really loves this city and
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and boom that's it
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if he's working under the biggest and
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it's never clear that he's aware that
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he's you know the once and future king
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or whatever because I've never gotten
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the impression that he picked that up
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there are Winx right at the end of a
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couple of books were carried shows that
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he's not as naive as he writes yeah now
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he's just straightforward and people
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confuse that for naivete yes and and i
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like that they basically made him you
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press press the button comes the plot
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device and I like that's how he's used I
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the you know of course I could I could
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find criticisms because you can't write
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however many books he wrote without
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saying he falls on some hackney trips
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and so on and so forth but most the time
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i think what i really liked is as the
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books progress through this series he
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practiced became simultaneously angrier
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about the cupidity of human nature and
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more enamored and hopeful about when we
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managed to overcome our human nature and
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and push people towards progress a
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little bit at a time
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yeah I think that's why my favorite
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protagonists of is are the most cynical
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yeah like he's got hundreds of
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characters but he drifts towards vibes
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and Granny Weatherwax people who can say
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really mean things
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yeah let me take a break to tell you
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about mail route route is a service that
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lives in the cloud and it's like i'm
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going to use a sports metaphor
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now sorry people who hate sports it's a
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great defensive player in a sporting
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event like think of an american football
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contest where you've got a cornerback
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who is roving around and when the ball
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gets there trying to go to the receiver
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and he leaps in front of it and grabs
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the ball that's what mail route does to
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spam and viruses and email bounces and
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other junk that you don't want in your
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inbox it lives in the cloud and that
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stuff never gets to your mail server
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because it goes inbound to mail route
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and measure out kicks it out with its
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intelligent cloud-based services so you
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don't have to install any hardware or
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special software that all happens at
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mail route all you have to do is sign up
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and you can do a risk-free trial there's
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no credit card necessary you change your
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MX records which are the things in the
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domain name system that say hey where
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does email for this domain go you point
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those at mail route so mail route takes
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in all the mail for your domain filters
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it and then pops it on behind the scenes
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the result is a spam free virus free
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mailbox regular desktop users will find
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the interface simple and effective you
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can change what it filters and how it
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filters it you can get my email that
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tells you everything that got filtered
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out i love watching that to see how the
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favorites just because I well I like
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health how complex it he gives every one
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of the characters their dignity
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vinagrette because I'm Oh magnet at the
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end of lords and ladies is so good
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really is magnets because there's that
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magnet has a scientific mind she's a
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better doctor and I appreciated that he
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and all that and what I really like is
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humanity and he lets her he gives her a
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lot of space to run with it a couple of
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manny has to clean up granny's messages
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a couple of times
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mostly because it's just a pastiche on
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the phantom of the opera but when the
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two of them hit the city and a nanny ogg
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hours exactly how it works out and
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Granny Weatherwax how oh how did you do
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that and she's all my arnav said this in
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cruel and one of my favorite passages is
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mightily oats are traveling together and
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what it means to believe in something
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people believe in to invite all the
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answers like I'm I'm so grateful you're
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belief and it was nice it was a great
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personality and everybody's always
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practice that although he's writing in
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fantasy which is a kind of gutter genre
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is even worse than that and he has no
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fear about writing a book like small
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gods which is all about religion and
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believe ya know that's my favorite
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principal you can couch a lot of stuff
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in that in the fantasy tropes right by
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sort of making it alien and being like
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oh yes this is some other world that i'm
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talking about but he does such as I mean
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he any runs the the gamut from you know
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you talk about religion to he talks
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about Hollywood right in moving pictures
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you know all these
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he sorta can go like the satire angle of
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it really doesn't shy away from too many
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targets was like entertainment he died
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taking on the institution's i and III
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the fantasy really frees them up to be
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able to say pretty much anything you
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want and that because the world gets so
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detailed and so you know flush with all
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these characters and institutions it
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really does become sort of a weird
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mirror of our own world and I don't
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think I think you'd be hard-pressed to
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come up with another like another writer
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who creates such an elaborate throw
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simulacrum when you think about he moved
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the books because when when these books
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then I forget their drinking water out
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pointed out that the timeline is
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deliberately messy with Shakespeare's
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old globe right next to a giant parisien
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yeah for centuries apart when the the
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internet heading across the disk
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yeah and to the other as well yeah yeah
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yeahs minutes of the whole point really
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of sci-fi and to a lesser extent fantasy
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is to be able to get away with you know
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modern social commentary and couch it in
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you know whatever universe you're
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working within and you can get away with
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a lot more that way and especially if
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you're doing comedy and and I think he
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find that a terribly moving book and
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yeah I is Bob feel like the last 10
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yes I mean that the characters and the
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way they deal with each other and the
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way they deal with their faith or lack
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thereof is is really good stuff even if
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you're not you know particularly
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religious person and I definitely am NOT
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you know he he he really kind of can
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move you through that through through
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the background of of the fantasy
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universities built i said this on
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twitter too but over the process of
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leaving the Catholic Church which I had
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been raised in since childhood
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and I left and I left it was literally
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like the ugliest breakup I've ever been
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in my life and the two books that
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actually helped me frame my thinking and
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save my sanity to some extent were lamb
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by christopher moore who is a wonderful
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another wonderful offer to read if you
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want comic fantasy that also has some
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sliced social commentary in there and
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then small gods by terry pratchett and I
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read and reread both of those books and
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they really helped me get my head on
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straight as to why I was doing what I
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was doing and where I wanted to end up
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president is you know when you do come
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from heavily religious background you
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choose to leave it having a book like
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small gods was a really helpful really
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helpful framework for figuring out what
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my own ideas were independent of what
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killing me which one what what kind of
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you don't have a whole slackers like
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oh god I'll i also love the Wizards
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because they're just so freaking chaotic
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common satire in academia right like you
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bursary and all these people all the
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whatever one of the things I like about
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small gods which is just a brilliant
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novel is that it's not just about
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religion but actually even to an atheist
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helps explain religion and I liken it to
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unseen academicals which among other
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things explains why people like
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sports and it lets you see that it's
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part of the shared experience of
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everybody cheering for the same thing
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and I think it's a mark of a really good
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writer that he can tackle both sports
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and religion with equal yet with that he
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can honor them equally and explain not
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really explain them both but help you
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understand both and also i love the end
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of the day i love the end of many of his
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novels but ya wanna time the moment and
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unseen academicals where the or
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character is being booed by the entire
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stadium except forward and everybody's
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quiet he says come on if you think
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you're hard enough
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yes and everybody just cheers him
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because they all said that's the right
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yeah fresh it was great at moments like
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yeah i know i mean i think i think
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you're totally right that he does such
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an e there are a lot of books that could
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put douglas adams since this category
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that could just be a string together of
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a lot of jokes but his books actually
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work as books even you know they are
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funny but they they tell a complete
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story and is generally a story that you
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know make sense as well plotted and all
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that it's not like you know he'll go a
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long way for a joke but he won't derail
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necessarily the entire story for a joke
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what makes him so successful is that his
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books are are funny but they're also
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perfectly good books just to sit down
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and read and the plots make sense the
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characters are wonderfully drawn with
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the exception of a few obvious periods
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books and then the sequence of books
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novel was basically what happens if we
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drop a gun in a discworld ok how about
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nobody get our sure yeah I like soul
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music a lot its almost regulated moving
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picture i think that's probably the best
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of the three there is one line in moving
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pictures i say a lot which is when
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they've invented popcorn because of
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course yes bank gradient huh yeah if you
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put butter and salt on it tastes sort of
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like salty butter
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I say that all the time which is what
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people want to begin with populations to
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be well and I really likes so me
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dick in particular because i really like
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death and you can't talk in ironically
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enough you know I think that that's my
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he's probably my favorite character in
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all of Discworld I you know and with
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perhaps maybe the the caveat that the
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death of rats is actually amazing but
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only difference is a squeak it not gay
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people love the library and he doesn't
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the librarian is great as well because
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character runs through so many of these
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books because of course everybody does
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eventually I think he's one of the few
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characters in every single mothers
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always a death cameo in every book
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there but I mean again is universal
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right and but his character of death has
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your death centric novels to like Reaper
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man and more and soul music and so I
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think having him there in you know to
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sort of string all these things together
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he's the immovable unstoppable force
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right and and the great equalizer so I
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think he's he is among my favorite of
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all of the characters him and veterinary
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if I'm having an ear vines experience he
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is that one book too and i also enjoy
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when he and the witches up but when
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Granny Weatherwax gives them a
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chiropractic adjustment but yea Reaper
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man was i think the first book that
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actually like hit me between the eyes
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emotionally that's why I think that's my
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yeah and then later when i read
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hogfather I do tend to read around the
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holidays when he asked Susan you know
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what you have a kiss for your granddad
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this poor anthropomorphic
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personification of death
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all he wants is all he wants is his
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granddaughter to give my kids because he
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misses having kids and it's it's just
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it's it's inaudibly touching you know
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favorites and I think it's because in
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fantasy it's comparatively rare to have
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female characters who are not there as
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as means to help the male characters
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develop their character more or as
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rewards or as props and one of the
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things pratchett had such an eight
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respect for all of his characters that
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he developed you you never got the sense
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that there was any princess who existed
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solely because there was a prince who
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needs to have a girlfriend after a while
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or there was never an evil queen he was
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evil simply for the sake of of giving
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people something to do it was always
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there was always something a little bit
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deeper you know even with characters
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like warbles who still haunts my
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nightmares and and the auditors which
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are also frankly horrific i was trying
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to remember if if Reaper man has one of
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my favorite footnotes and of course
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footnotes a big terry pratchett think
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but I think it's the one about is that
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the one where they he talks about
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anti-crime we're just involves like
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leaving things places and people went
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like the footage this man turned
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footnotes into an art I think probably
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intruder and and with different i do
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snobs to say no no this is just a great
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rincewind is the star of the discworld
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pure bits where do you guys stand on
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pyramids dump-down actually if not have
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oh yeah i forgot he appeared in that
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it's a totally throw a line where the
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rush and they're adjusting the shocking
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tunnels to yeah and he took that
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census there were 50,000 seamstresses
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an excellent wikipedia page by the way
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say bye I you know I think one of the
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yeah was one of my favorite like random
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characters who appears all the time and
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uh I think veterinary pretty in
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particular who is among my very very
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favorite characters because he is so
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good he's just written so well and his
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relationship with vines in particular
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it's just always fascinating to watch
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and he's you know he's sort of evil but
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not really evil i'm rereading colour of
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magic right now and its really
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disconcerting to see a patrician in
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there that I don't think is veterinary
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yeah i think it's implied at some point
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that it's not yeah well there was a
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discussion on health and prep this is
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from the annotated patch of pilot and
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not just remembering it there's a
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two or three about whether this was the
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same character and terry pratchett
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posted have to say yeah that's the same
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character and people argued with him
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saying that the same character you know
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you just wrote it and Terry offered a
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compromise which is the early patrician
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is the same character but written by a
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worse author that is terry pratchett a
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well in AI i will say that my one issue
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with it is in the in the TV adaptation
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of colour of magic
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Jeremy Irons plays the patrician and
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it's he doesn't take I don't know maybe
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it's just me being upset because does
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not match my my person my you know
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internal image of veterinary but he
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comes across as like he makes him look
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strangely offended or something it's
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just really weird strange delivery and
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then whoever it is that they get to play
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man goin postal is actually much better
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and does like the sort of slightly
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sinister but generally well-meaning
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style yeah much better there there's
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something I think the patrician will be
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with a lower my favorite recurring
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character just because I I like how he's
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always just very casually sitting on
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circumstances that he knows and nobody
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else knows you know when he when it
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turns out he's locked in a cell and he
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organizes the rats snakes and scorpions
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into warring factions and advises them
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on how to and how do warfare against
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oh and i realized that raising steam is
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not a favorite described for some of you
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but when it turns out he's actually been
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shoveling coal on the scene changes
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again just to get a feel for it turns
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out the veterinary in the goin postal
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adaptation was played by Charles dance
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you may remember when Lana yes that's
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apparently according to terry pratchett
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his choice to play them was alan rickman
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who of course would have been amazing i
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love the patrician I one-man one-vote
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one-man one-vote he's the end of the
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vote and I enjoyed that he had he throws
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mines in a scorpion fit with with it
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with the legend and blazing reading
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learn the words I yeah I like that but I
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hate I may read these books too much i
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hate the very next line of that book
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which is because mine for silent but
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deadly to his mood
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oh come on Terry what is then they're
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not all going to be winners Monty amount
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of time looking at 14 year old who knows
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that he could he who's like I could be
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sophisticated now like I think I think
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that he does have some of these things
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that the younger audience to get them
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interested and then they'll rise up to
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the material as it happens to I was a
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younger audience when i read that
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ah well you're just exception refine
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them maybe they didn't notice the joke
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the first few times I read it and then
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noticing it and everything click into
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place enraged me know there's something
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veterinary says in the truth that I say
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at work all the time which is that
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people don't want the news they want the
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olds and I think it's a very end and I
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realized it was kicking around newsrooms
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before veterinary said it but i actually
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heard from veterinary before I heard
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from any other working reporter or
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editor so like I I appreciate that it's
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it since help me when I'm pitching
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stories know very well this is yeah what
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you can learn from terry pratchett yeah
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how you can apply terry pratchett to
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your own working career mostly just keep
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yes people compare him to douglas adams
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because they were both little funny
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british people douglas adams wrote like
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yeah douglas adams never met a deadline
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and terry pratchett has been writing two
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books a year yet Terry Pratchett never
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met a deadline he couldn't he could
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knock over and sleep
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yeah what I saw him speak he credited
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his early training is both a journalist
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as a PR man for a nuclear power plant
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and he said well you have a chance you
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had to meet them and you had to learn
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how to get out of the way of your own
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head and just get the job done and again
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useful advice for any career you know
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you have deadlines you have to meet them
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get out of your head and get the job
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done several this is my am I was
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thinking you need if you were to
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recommend off there's it in the yawning
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wake since there will be no more new
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terry pratchett books and we will all
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eventually reach the end of peppermint
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he's Britain so far what other authors
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would you recommend when do you like
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terry pratchett so you like X XYZ and is
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there anybody working who is white
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well i was going to say the things is
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christopher moore comes pretty close for
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me but he's also a dude who puts out of
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a book like once every three to four
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years so but yeah i would recommend
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Christopher more for the same he's you
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know for the same oh he starts off doing
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you know juvenile comedic fantasy and
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then has his work has become much more
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thoughtful and nuanced and social
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commentary over time while still also
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being communicated in fantastic i'm
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trying to think of another another
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writer that I think works in a similar
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vein but I think that's it's such it's a
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very small niche and I think he you know
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for years for decades dominated it
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because I Amy Adams would be the closest
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sort of analog in terms of this writing
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style but I can't think of you know
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someone else working the same in fact i
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know i know an agent in particular who
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really is a big terry pratchett fan and
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it's like I'm trying to get people to be
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more things like that you know humorous
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fantasy but there's just not that much
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out there and so that was my problem i
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used to read everything that was labeled
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as humorous fantasy until the day
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somewhere around the 11th or 12th and
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the book when I realized just because I
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like some things in this genre doesn't
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mean I have to read everything and
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everything I can set down the jaundice
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chancy and move on with my life
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there are a couple books in particular i
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say nothing of the dog by connie willis
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has been sort of humorous it's signed
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more sci-fi than fantasy but it has that
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sort of same humor mixed with an actual
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plot bellwether by her as well which is
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all i think also a pretty good
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recommendation when John was funny
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yeah that's it that's a really good book
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they suggest that you know one of his
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literary influences might have been a PG
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suggest that that's pure humor
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oh yeah that's that's a good pick
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because it's funny and also if you like
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terry pratchett you're ok with an author
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having a million books
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here's another author without me only in
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I'm on board with that you like
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pratchett jump out of fantasy read
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Woodhouse ya can't go wrong with the PG
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Wodehouse I don't know who else in terms
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of I feel like it's we you know someone
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someone else should be working in this
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yeah well I think we should actually
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wind down for this has been an hour of
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us holding a virtual wake to terry
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pratchett and sharing and then try to
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him would read next officer
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oh no back everyday brachet yeah I
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started over with colour of magic
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yeah i may or may not be planning to
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read the entire series all over again I
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reread steam last night and what I found
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really striking about steam work how
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many cameos show up there's a throwaway
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line about how they have a clock stare
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up in Lancre and the witches fly up
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there to share coffee with the collects
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operators and there's also another king
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barons and migrate or sending you know
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classes saying and when may we expect a
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a train station because we need to join
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our rightful place on the world stage
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a shout out and they're there are some
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other callbacks mentioned to one of the
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characters who was in it wasn't going
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ended you know if he if he could no
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longer write books and he didn't wrap up
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every single character people would be
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yeah yeah what happened my favorite
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it had the feeling of a season finale if
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that makes sense where ya
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as it's the whole book the theme of the
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whole book is things change progress
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hooray for human inventiveness please
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always fight against small-mindedness
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it's like it's like you know he was
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saying I don't have a whole lot of time
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to to say these things are important to
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me so I'm gonna I'm just gonna get that
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all out there right now I'm not a whole
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lot of subtlety here you go but i wanted
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to know how grieve over the cat ended up
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that early in discworld there would be
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stories like soul music or moving
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pictures where something from the real
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world impinges on the discworld there's
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a plot about it and then it leaves but
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an actual steam engine have just been
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coming to discworld and staying and
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fundamentally changing it that i don't
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know how i feel about discworld changing
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well you can always go back to the
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original and then just it's it's back to
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I'm gonna get you guys are back
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hey Jason hit Jason what's your favorite
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Terry Pratchett but the one here at i
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regard to earth was pretty good I I you
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guys mentioned Tiffany aching earlier
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just as dance relative whose
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relationship i can't remember whose the
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children's librarian likes those my wife
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is also a children's librarian likes
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those books very much and it looks like
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there is that one last Tiffany aching
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book coming out so that's that's
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something because she really loved those
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books too and she be on this episode
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except she's traveling and it would be
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her first uncomfortable episode but alas
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any last thoughts before before we wrap
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don't hesitate to pick us on Twitter for
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more fragile yeah for 30 years I have
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been looking in the pratchett section of
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the bookstore every time I go in just in
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case there's a new book there and since
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the Internet has shown up that's been
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less necessary because I know when a
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book is due but I checking anyway
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mhm i'm probably going to keep checking
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the head forever
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alright this has been a fitting tribute
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and I'm I'm glad you guys could be here
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so now it comes time for me to thank the
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people you just listen to talk about
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terry pratchett for the last hour
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Monty actually thank you very much thank
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you Jason Lieser Schmeisser thank you
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thank you Steve let's thank you very
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much my pleasure jason hope this is the
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last one of these we have to do for more
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tributes nope that's it everybody is
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going to stop time please stop stop with
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that I take a holiday def yep even that
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way stop the tributes of them straight
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to malice and then work thank you i was
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good to be here and that's it for this
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episode of the uncomfortable
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thanks for listening we will see you
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