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00:00:00 ◼   ► get the feeling that maybe a semitism fully baked occasionally so yes I went [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► back in a fight with my input I think it's the amendment also restarted did [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► but still exactly as you just you just recorded a show 22 efforts ago and [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► everything and and what happened back in but that shouldn't happen I i I really [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► cannot explain now there's a new Skype 7 a.m. town over justly keep one machine [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► and pristine working condition and never unplug anything or restart it that's [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► sort of what I do with my macbook air like I haven't upgraded it to yosemite [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► country in like old man conservative you know like if it ain't broke don't fix it [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► with this machine and it's dole you know and I don't update new versions of Skype [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► and it still gives me problems you know like trying to be real conservative [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► about what I do with the software on this particular machine doesn't seem to [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► make a very little discipline is your answer you run it on and stuff yeah I [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► it's been very complicated been complicated last few months because I've [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► had I had from Apple and this wasn't just a special treat for John Gruber [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► think it was a lot of us got it they gave us review unit to WBC MacBook Pro [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► with comedy already installed as they actually wanted us to start using lied [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► about it yeah [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► serious I had needed he might be needed five but you know they gave him they [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► give him an iPhone and reviews in a TPB he got an iPhone sex so that he not to [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► review the events expert so he could write about continuity features which is [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► really really really awesome that he you know there's a big help to him you know [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► they've been very helpful stuff like that but that machine is gone now have [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► done down the two machines in new 13 inch MacBook Pro and I've already again [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► I started life just got it like a month ago it started on your 72 never seen [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► anything but my old MacBook Air I just keep minus one had to get my wife needed [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► the machine they had to make sure I got it before you simply came on everything [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► because she would freak [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► just might be the change in operating system now we've had this discussion [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► before too but she doesn't like it either like you walk by later my phone [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► over in like they'll be like a badge 57 out do you update your apps [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► automatically do you have the App Store said see i dont have it said to update [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► automatically but I do like like OCD like every time there's update I'd [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► install them but the reason I don't do it automatically as I wanna know when [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► there's no wonder I like to read the release notes probably safer and just in [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► case you know I can't remember the last time that I've had like an app that I [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► didn't want to update been years you know just in case there's like you know [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► some kind of you know regression in a nap yeah it happened [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► right like the equivalent of like what they did with pages and iWork suite on [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► Mac you know going from nine to whatever they call the new ones and I mean [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► basically some of those just because of the way the App Store work in the [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► process because normally developers would just roll back something that was [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► there is a collection of her something they can't do that they have to resubmit [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► it you know I noticed someone talking about pages I I am i big complaint and [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► the thing that I could not stand about the update 2 pages in particular is that [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► for the few things I use word processing like for example with sponsors sometimes [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► you know if I send them an invoice I have a page template and it's really [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► nice I've got a nice typography on it and for years now maybe even 10 years [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► Mac OS tennishead wonderful built in system-level typography so that I can [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► open type font that has small caps and alternate dinner the figures the old [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► style figures were the numbers dropped below the baseline or sometimes go above [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► the baseline and you can [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► system wide open Text Editor Free Text you know just the symbols [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► replacement for simple text go to find panel open the typography panel and you [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► get this wonderful typography controls my template all set up with you know [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► small caps for certain things and stuff like that and pages the new version of [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► pages last year 2013 version dropped support for all of that in the name of [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► compatibility with iOS which doesn't have any of those typography features [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► anymore so I stuck with the patron pages in particular I stuck with 2009 version [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► like numbers I i dont know why I don't know what the you know I'm such as [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► simple simpleton using a spreadsheet that I didn't notice anything worse in [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► numbers I use the new version in numbers but I use the old version of pages but I [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► notice with the latest version of pages it's it is so complicated [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► I they had like an update with your sanity and I'm hoping that the [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► typography stuff is back and it's not create a new document and pages and you [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► have a fight that has true small-caps not like the fake fake fake small caps [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► but real small caps there's no way did to turn text into small caps in the new [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► version but if you open and pages 09 document in a new version of pages and [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► you already have small caps it now [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► still supports it doesn't make it go away so it and it seems like what you [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► can do it doesn't get into it seems like what you can do is you can open a new [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► version pages you can switch to text it and make your text in you know use the [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► advanced typography its features copy and paste it go back two pages and paste [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► works as weird so so it's really really like you know it I guess seems like [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► they're making some kind of progress on that front but it's actually more [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► complicated than it was a year ago when the simple it was just a simple answer [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► no you can use this feature [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► it's like there's nothing to do with iMovie years ago [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah when they switched from being a sort of very basic traditional [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► non-linear video editor to do whatever I was even seen that guy is Randy obelisk [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► still there you know I may not be there anymore [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► very good questions I heard something about him possibly leaving not like I [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► have any you know that he was in trouble but sort of you know that he'd been [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► there had been burned out you know that you know you know just had been their [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► own major major software projects for years and years and he may not be there [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► I'm not sure to good question anybody knows liberties you can tell me and then [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► doing a function really listens to show you know you'd be surprised but have not [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► checked alright I actually got it very nice email from somebody at Comcast it [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► was actually very very nice email somebody is you know seems to be a true [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► fan of the show and they said that they were they were half laughing and crying [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► for hours but fired they TV guys had a good a good bit about how he was not the [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► guy who was I would I want to hear from as I want to hear from the guy who made [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► that graphic I want to hear the story of how the traffic now that ATP guys had a [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► good bit about the way that the iWorks apps feature wise you know when [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► comparing contrast that with Microsoft which you know never takes fans away if [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► there's ever in advance you know if we were never gained advanced typography [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► features you can bank on it that it's never gonna lose them in the future and [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► any other thing that they brought up in this to me is so crazy it cannot believe [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► that it's true and I didn't even know it i have it like Mark to do more research [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► on it [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► linking up from Darren fireball that apparently the new version of [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► of at least pages but maybe it's the whole iWork suite no longer reads [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► documents iwerks documents that are older than the versions created by the [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► 09 versions really so like yes I like pages like that the oldest Pages [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► document you can open now in the current version of pages is from pages 09 [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► anything created with a version of pages earlier than pages 09 will no longer [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► open in pages which is as crazy as I was about to delete the old version in the [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► 09 version supports that stuff in a folder I was thinking I can just get rid [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► of that iWork 09 folder is not now known as crazy or at the very least and it [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► sounds like such such busy work but you really like the sensible idea you know [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► what you really need to do is find every single iwerks document that you have an [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► open it costs like if make sure see if you have seriously this is what you we [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► would have to do what we will have to do is open up every version and any [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► documentation fine that's older than 09 and make sure it's saved as 09 at the [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► very least to go back I'm sure got some someplace but I probably can't find them [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► right now try it but I will make sure to add a note and put that in the show [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► notes and I have a link where everybody but I got away from it but it's so crazy [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► and that you know they they rightly pointed out that that is exactly like [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► where Microsoft is so great because they you does not like you know that word [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► go by the latest version of Microsoft Word you know it opens [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► 1.0 don't know what I would you bet against just right click like if you set [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► up like a 1984 like PC running like da Stu and like the first version of [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► Microsoft Word four-dot I don't even know what maybe dogs came out later 1984 [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► whatever the first year that das one you know . at Microsoft Word document save [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► it I guarantee you that that document will open with four fidelity in today's [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► microsoft word did you work did you use the word back now I was always a Mac [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► right man okay okay yeah yeah I used word until six where they screwed [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► everything up and then yeah and I started using wordperfect [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► my wife and his word perfect for years even like long after it had been [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► basically forgotten I don't even know if I ever even used word perfect and it was [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► pretty was for some thing was it was always popular wordperfect was huge in [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► the legal community I think I remember correctly for some reason and then word [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► was leaked everywhere else [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► and it was a big was a big problem for a lot of thinking that's kinda what drove [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► a lot of people to switch to PCs because they're using Word and they had to [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► switch to world anyway and various other using wordperfect and they had to switch [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► to Mac and they had to switch to world anyway and so they're like well I must [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► switch I gotta buy a license so I'm just gonna go by MPC one thing from that era [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► was that there were no demos for commercial software and the commercial [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► software was very exams so you really our only options where to pirate it [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► spend a significant amount of money like probably I'm guessing you know like a [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► word perfect for Mac was probably like $149 oh that was like the student [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► license maybe even a hundred and that's like nineteen ninety dollars you know [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► not just a liddo it's not long enough ago that inflation has some you know [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► some of you still use the old you can exchange you take that down in exchange [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► for gold government now I was always a Mac rate I'm a great man and part of it [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► maybe was just that I don't think I had to pay for it because it drexel we we [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► had like a university-wide site license for everything from Clarus and you could [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► just go to the student center and get my first like first couple of years like [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► their early nineties 9192 you'd go to the student center with blank floppies [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► and there was a machine where you just put them in and it would one-by-one you [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► know you tell one you know the whole Clara sweep you know yet what else there [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► but you know like Mac right something I we had excelled though it wasn'ta Clara [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► spreadsheet at the time and we had like like a university-wide site license for [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► Excel too and you would just go there with all you have to do is bring your [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► own poppies poppies and you get like officially licensed install disks for [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► cell like right now I always like I can remember not getting getting an [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► officially licensed yeah crazy it is absolutely crazy which was like one [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► point for four megabytes if it was double density high density right there [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► was the original lobbies however 401 Syracuse's Syracuse L is me on this cuz [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► I've whenever we go retro on the show I always say that they started at eight [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► hundred know they're like 1984 smacks had 400 K [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► 3.5 inch floppy these and then and then 801 804 called double density and high [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► density [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► you could take even though you could take a double density the 800 K one and [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► if you punched a hole in the corner you could that the the floppy driver treated [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► as a high-density want because there was like for backwards compatibility the way [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► that they did it was [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► the high-density the ones you know one point four megabyte capacity with the [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► exact same form factor as the 800 K ones so you could put it in the same drive [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► but the way the drive would recognize that it was high density is that the [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► high-density once had a hole in the corner and if you took like it was the [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► dead people may I don't know if you could use a hole punch but there was a [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► good thing that people made you could buy that you would punch a hole in 800 K [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► desk and then the driver treated as a high-density one even though like the [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► manufacturer hadn't made it for that like that he'll lose you see we were [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► with her are dating back then the sailors floppy sometimes a little bit [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► now that's that's how the world works and you can fit you had to be able to [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► fit in a pond one I guess you get their installers for big bigger software where [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► the software would run across multiple discs and it would be like a zip file or [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► the equivalent that was spread across multiple yeah right I remember that [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► could use story you stuff it spread them across multiple tasks done story but [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► anyway I found my son was playing with the old computers they've got liner and [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► order and there we've gotta get a performer 6400 and we came down in the [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► basement of came across a box full of things like I was like what are these [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► authors that we should try this and so do this meticulous process because I was [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► like ok we get the symptoms does it played into the the 6400 we start the [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► 6400 up and there's a password on it and i cant member with the pastors and so ok [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► that's fine there's a way around that and the way is something else you can [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► get [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► you can get in and just delete this is the high-security on Nos she could just [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► delete a file in the assistance during the system for going to delete a file [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► and restart that's fine but you gotta start with something else for that model [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► won't start a floppy disks yet start off a CD Drive with the CD Drive was broken [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► in the 64 hundreds and I don't know why I get this compulsion to do this but I [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► like I gotta solve this problem now and I just saw this problem I guess table 8 [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► solving this problem so I pull the drive the hard drive 500 and I take it up and [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► I put it in my my PowerMac g4 PowerMac as an extra drive start up the lead to [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► fight he'll take it back down put it back in the 6400 and as I'm putting it [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► back in the 6400 and reconnecting everything I have the Zip Drive sitting [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► on top of the 6400 and to stand in the basement of this cement floor and I [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► knocked the drive off on a break this if I went through this huge prizes and in [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► the end I just read the thing that I was trying to connect them looking at some [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► in the market for a new drive now I was like I did look on ebay and it's like [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► fifteen 15 20 bucks to get it holds up criminals like at the point where [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► actually came to shelling out money but my time is worthless but my money is not [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► easily heard you easily per ten times that you easily burn hundreds of dollars [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► I imagine if it was like somebody commissioned to write an article that [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► would take it out and then he said and it paid $15 right but but when it came [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► to find actually give somebody 15 bucks for an older so actually I actually had [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► to use word recently speaking of the price of word and you know that being [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► able to get a license because you could just get up like the office 360 license [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► for you can pay by the month end its like seven bucks a month or something [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► like that for just the regular version for the Mac version there is no link [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► enterprise stuff there's no access I saw that this weekend at the you know the [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► news you know the big news story this week from Microsoft was within the last [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► week but that they've made the the mobile versions of The Office apps [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► freidy's like pretty much no stranger the basic functionality of it yes but [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► its reach you know read read right before it was that you could read [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► documents but you couldn't and now you can you can't do track changes and [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► probably a couple of some of the stuff in the big one I think that people often [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► use track changes and to pay for it and that santa came out with Android [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► versions to that story is interesting I think so I mean I think differently and [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► said they were going to do that [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► and there was some assembly I saw somebody reach we did ok and executive [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► from Google saying can't wait for Microsoft Office Mobile is the official [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► office companion optimized for your Android phone you can access view and [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► edit your Microsoft Word Excel I'm guessing that yeah yeah they have [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► entered versions it seems you know that and again you know it's this weird with [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► Microsoft Word it was the same boat as with Apple with would have done if the [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► old CEO is still there but it does seem there but it does seem though that this [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► is a bomber had to go for this type of thing like and makes you wonder how [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► different Microsoft position in mobile might have been if they had known as ago [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► right like what if they had done it in 2009 at least Friday west face it by 10 [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► 2009 Android wasn't good as a sip platform wasn't good enough for stuff [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► like that at least for the iPhone they had done it then and then in 2010 when [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► the iPad came out they would have already been on iOS and that could have [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► you know if the iPad had debuted in a world where there's already a functional [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► microsoft office we could have really changed their you know their status [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► overall in the post-pc world really with so much because the office the office [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► products are really tied into a way that people work as much as they used to be [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► so much of our things that we produce are for the web and office after night [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► applications not really used for production well for us that's true and I [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► suspect it's true for a lot of the people who listen to like our shows but [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► I might might test for what goes on in the real world is always the snooping I [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► do and airports you know not snooping but you know looking over what it what's [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► this guy you know as I go to the bathroom on the plane just look at what [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► they do and I've noticed a lot of mentioned this before but I see it over [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► and over again I noticed a lot of business people who you know just [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► judging by their attire and judging by the fact that they've PCs and that a lot [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► of times ICIC PowerPoint and Excel CIC laugh a lot of Excel and I also see a [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► lot of Outlook email you know where windows look and then I see them like [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► you know an hour and a half into the flight they fold up the laptop and then [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► they take on an iPad I see it over and over and over [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► right it's like they've got they want to you know they want to get caught up on [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► their email or they're working on a thing and Excel and as soon as they're [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► done with it then you know when it's time to relax they go to an iPad yeah [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► sure they're not just popping the keyboard after service you know what [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► it's funny I I can make fun of the surface but i've i've seen more and more [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► of them in the AM it's no longer and Luke well I don't think of something [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► great but it's not it's not close its I see more of them that I see people using [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► Windows Phones and again maybe maybe it's just easier to notice because [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► people if I see someone using the surface it's pretty easy to identify it [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► as a surface and it's it's kind of hard to tell what phone somebody's using [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► usually tell right from the back without seeing the screen you can usually tell [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► iPhone or not i phone but if it's not iPhone who down those internet you can [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► see the screen but on the other hand if you can't see the screen Windows Phone [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► is so distinctive you I was I think it's pretty easy and I don't see many of them [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► I see a lot more surface tablet [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► see the whole thing where that election night [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► paid to use services and then right just sorta like pretty much exactly like [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► they've done with the NFL or two where everybody they've they've carpet bombed [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► all the NFL studio teams you know let's go back have time is good here the [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► halftime report and everybody in the studio has surfaced in front of them and [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► CNN shots are you could tell that their their surfaces were weird being used my [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► pet its first and everybody loves the kickstand right makes a great stand for [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► I am really do mean this I i think is a good marketing move that's actually [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► worse it was overall overall net effect of that campaign did was was actually [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► worse cuz I think there were more people noticed you know who caught on to the [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► you know they were actually propping up I'm mad tangle then who noticed you know [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► from TV like hey it looks like a Microsoft Surface it's actually worse I [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► think it actually hurts their their efforts because it makes it seem like [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► their products a joke I'm actually in the market might be in the market for a [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► PC cuz my son who likes to play games and has his most of his buddies for PC [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► users he's got like this identification thing now he wants to get a PC [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► and like some of the stuff is actually a little bit easier to manage because some [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► of the IPC because [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► the instant star their specific installers that are written for Windows [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► instead of [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► other clients and whether list [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► America on the Mac and Linux so so the kids and it's a weird problem to have to [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► be in this in that market because I can't figure out what I have no idea [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► what to get [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► late trying to find a laptop a Windows laptop that is we have with my with my [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► Mac standard it's really difficult there's nothing of the same quality [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► at least not in the same kind of price range most of the stuff is plastic and [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► the higher end stuff like there's the razor blade is supposed to be a great [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► gaming laptop PC but he wants a laptop [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► yeah yeah well I think he should have a laptop yeah he likes to him and he was [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► right and you know you'd like to take it with him when we travel and stuff like [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► that so but the race starts at 1900 parks and I'm not gonna give you know [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► he's going to spill like $1,800 $1,900 for start starting price for a razor [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► blade nice-looking computer it's like it's like a black looks like I say that [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► I just realized that I said that like I was totally offended I just believed I'd [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► like $3500 on my MacBook Pro which I don't drink out because I know that it's [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► an excellent machine and it's made of aluminum and that's an assist from Apple [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► and its really nice and I just assumed that the nicest PC there is impossible I [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► realized that there was a very pious man now I can totally don't like a 10 year [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► old 1919 her laptop and then the other ones are the alien the Alienware gaming [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► laptops but they start 11 like $1100 and another big clunky so it wouldn't you [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► know this experiment is going to take or not you don't think though that when you [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► reboot into Windows boot camp boot camp is not the solution [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► well he needs a new machine cuz he's using an old old MacBook Pro 2010 and [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► he's been he's been in a pretty well and the truth is I mean among you know what [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► there's video editing i mean there's a few things that that work was really [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► pushing machine these days but gaming there's always going to me as always I [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► mean until the end of our lives it's going to you know there's never going to [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► be a decrease in pushing the limits of computing you know any gain for your old [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► computer in a game in ancient combine that with the fact that MacBooks aren't [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► exactly known for being optimized for gaming in the first place winner brand [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► new and you can really you know yeah I mean so I can get you know I could get [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► $700 Lenovo that has a nice video card in it i mean it the thing is made out of [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► plastic the outside is terrible but it comes with eight gigs of ram and it's [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► got a good video card in it [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► well let's come back to take a break because it ties into something else [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► they're good friends at Squarespace you guys know Squarespace there it's a great [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► way to build your own website I just think back to what it was like before [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► things like Squarespace existed where if you wanted to start a new website and [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► you had to start something like BBEdit with new document and that's where [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► you're starting from it was daunting like and it would you know you don't [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► need start a new website if you really had wanted to devote a lot of time to [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► just getting it off the ground [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► whereas with Squarespace if you have an idea for a new website you can actually [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► have the website up and running in like minutes instead of days [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► amazing it's a totally different world and so much easier now they've been [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► around for a while they've been sponsoring the show and other shows for [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► a while now you've heard about him [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► but they've just launched what they're calling Squarespace seven and you can go [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► to Squarespace dot com slash 70 S II ven spell it out for more information on the [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► stuff that's new but they key points they've got a redesigned Squarespace 7 [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► interface and it's really really nice I think they're old interface was nice but [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► the new one is even better integration with Google Apps which is huge for a lot [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► of places that are all in on Google Apps they have a partnership with Getty [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► Images so it's a lot easier it's just built right into the Squarespace system [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► to get stock photography in stock illustration for stuff new templates [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► they have cover pages now and a whole bunch more really simple and powerful [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► really beautiful design the templates are just top-notch truly professional [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► templates that you can just start with and then tweet from there and best of [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► all 24 7 support via live chat and email they don't offer telephone support [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► because who wants to talk on the phone [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► nobody to me they actually advertise it as a feature and i three you want to [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► talk live they've got live chat on Gmail they've got email and their 24 7 365 [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► days a year you can always get in touch with them so while you're working on it [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► hit a wall if you're confused by something just dial up on the chat they [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► want to talk to you and they'll help you straight now and best of all it's starts [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► a ridiculous price it eight bucks a month and that includes a FREE domain if [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► you pay for it for the year so you can register your domain right through [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► Squarespace eight bucks a month [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► all of our templates are responsive website scales to look great on the [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► phone and tablet big 27 inch iMacs IMAX and every website comes with an online [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► store commerce you could set up to sell stuff right there and it's just built [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► into the price you don't have to pay extra to turn on this tour so start with [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► a trial with no credit card required no credit card you just have to like [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► worried that you give her credit card are gonna start billing you just go [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► there's sign up and when you do pay which would probably be like you know [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► two weeks later whenever the demo periods over just remember to give the [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► code Avenue code for the show the talk show all one word the talk show and [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► you'll get 10% off your first purchase and then I know you came to show your [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► support for the show them from here to go to Squarespace dot com slash the [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► talk-show [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► find out more and be sure to check out all the new features in version 7 my [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► thanks to Squarespace alright so to me that your your story about not knowing [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► what what to get for hang for a PC is I feel the exact same way and I feel like [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► it's just one of those it's it's a chasm between Apple people PC people that only [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► widened over the years to me one of the great things about being all in on the [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► Apple platform is that it's so easy to know what the best thing you know if I [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► want the best iPad I know to get the iPad 2 and you know just decide which [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► color I want whether I want cellular and you know how much storage unit it [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► whereas if I want the best Android tablet who knows what it is like the [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► best Windows gaming PC who knows [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► yeah I mean there's some things said there are a few manufacturers that [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► specialize in that kind of thing but you know you go to the nobles site too and I [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► mean any kind of leaning towards Lenovo just because they've heard that they're [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► OK is as opposed to some of the rest of them it seems like a lot of violence [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► really had decreased quality over the years and a bunch of people going out of [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► business people have bought and the dizzying array of options they are [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► presented with four just laptops is on just Lenovo site is ridiculous and I [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► can't make heads or tails any of this stuff and there's a section [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► there is a it's like a matrix it's like a product matrix of different numbers [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► and within those numbers they'll say what's good for homeland good ones could [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► for giving one's good for business but I don't know but then you have to get [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► through those numbers in life I mean either gaming is the only one that makes [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► sense because gaming means it's going to have high-powered graphics if it if [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► they're being honest in saying this one is good for gaming that it's got to be [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► it means it's good good graphics or at least gaming optimized graphics because [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► you know it's you know you could have like a Mac Pro my dad very powerful [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► graphics but it's probably a more you know the drivers are more optimized [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► towards professional applications than gaming whereas a gaming PC you know what [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► i mean to me you know it's set up for all the stuff on Steam to be optimized [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► dunno but what's the difference in a machine it's good for him and good for [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► business I guess that home is mostly just considered email and web surfing [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► and watching this I don't know and businesses businesses somebody else is [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► paying for us so this is a more expensive computer see I don't know I [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► kinda feel like it's such an artificial distinction that it dates back to the [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► back to what we were talking with like word 506 like 1989 and 90 when like [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► business would want like a networking card like it was a card that you [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► actually had to install in the back of the computer so you can plug Ethernet or [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► something like that and in Ethernet card was couple hundred bucks and it was [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► expensive and there's no way you'd want that at home because nobody had eaten at [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► all and so there where you know like physical differences between what you'd [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► want the business environment in a home environment whereas the distinction is [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► meaningless today I mean there's a reason why Apple doesn't have business [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► vs home distinctions in any other products [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► yeah right there's no business iPhone [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► business you know how my phone and in fact it's the fact that they didn't do [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► that and they don't have any such distinctions is what's driven this whole [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► you know I think revolutionary bring your own device to work thing that's [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► really gotten you know gaining momentum in like the biggest and most buttoned up [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► corporate environment I really think that whole good better best thing that [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► they did rounds 2009 that's not even started earlier in the wind up too late [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► 2003 or something like that then they drop it was brilliant and I think they [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► should I frankly think they should still do that I think they do internally but [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► it's it's a little bit blurry r you know it's well and the other thing they did [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► was they had good better and best but then had just had the simple four-way [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► product matrix of pro not pro portable not portable and there was so there was [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► the not pro portable was the iBook and the pro portable was the MacBook or i [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► guess its powerbook then you know iMac was the night Pro desktop and the [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► paramedic however now I was gonna say macro a PowerMac was the Pro desktop and [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► then within each one was good better best yeah so it's a little bit more [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► complicated now but not too much I don't really have no idea what to do next year [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the iPhone well shelf that lets cuz i think thats a deep conversation we [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► should return to it but I don't think it's hard to go in and buy a Macbook [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► today I think you know you know what would you rather do would you rather you [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► know I think I would get more complex maybe more complex if the rumored retina [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► MacBook Airs are coming as you know [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► in the early months of next year which i think is probably true I think if the [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► iMac has gone right now I think the MacBook Airs probably next and I think [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► suddenly suddenly that becomes a little tougher decision to make but it's a [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► transition right and if anything it's only going to steer more people towards [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► spending a little less and getting the retina MacBook Air and set of the retina [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► MacBook Pro 13 inch MacBook Pro you know which i think would save people money [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► instead of making people pay more but it's still right now today though it's a [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► very easy decision as I do you want the really nice machine and yet it's gonna [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► be a little thicker and heavier or do you want the cheaper lighter one which [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► is there it was pretty easy I know I'm getting my wife machine was actually [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► relatively simple because she's gotta monitors on an external monitor so she [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► didn't need a huge screen so ten-inch and definitely the air obviously and [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► then it was just storage space and she got a fairly big iPhoto library so she [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► knew she couldn't take though 28 gave her drugs and i was thinkin ok if you [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► want to get a machine now it's really make sense to get a king's ransom for [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► so that was it yeah yeah no other really know any other considerations whatsoever [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► yeah and I'm not you know and I'm sure that on the flip side it's like what [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► drives like this conversation of what how great it is that we don't have too [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► many choices to make [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► is exactly what drives PC sure PC fans knots and the think that Android fans [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► right as I think they're the same people you know I think that you know that [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► people who most liked the fact that they can configure the gym built can still [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► build their own PCs for the desktop are the sort of people who think it's [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► wonderful that there are so many Android phones [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► to choose from my thing was that I'm seriously thinking about like in the [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► next couple of weeks probably like maybe like maybe like for the month of [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► december 2 tried you know I haven't done it in like two years is given greater [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► shot try living for two weeks with an Android phone and so I asked around [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► waiting for the next 60 ship which I almost certainly knew I wasn't going to [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► want because it's so huge it came out in the reviews came out yesterday a lot of [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► them are really really badly just to pull skis you know had pictures from it [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► and the heat thinks that the cameras actually worse than last year's Nexus 5 [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► both of them are way worse than the iPhone camera it's a really shitty [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► camera and that to me is a deal breaker right there but it's just basic question [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► to twitter twitter followers is okay let's say I want to give Android [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► lollipop the new 5.0 version of Android which I do think from the outside not [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► having used it looks like the first one first version of Android ever that's [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► pretty well designed right that's why I want to try it and I have no interest in [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► trying Android four-point anything on any phone because I know that I don't [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► like it I know I've used it I've spent enough time with 204 devices I know I [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► don't like the design so it has to be 5.0 which which phone check and it's [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► there's no clear like this is the best one to get yeah yeah more or less it [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► comes down to the two most popular answers were the Nexus 5 which is the [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► year old Nexus phone and the Moto X Moto X is more expensive cost me 500 bucks [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► each sino HTC now because it hates PCs and made which did get some votes and [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► most of the people who voted for it said it's easily the best build quality of [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► any Android phone but all HTC has promised for the image is that it'll get [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► lollipop within the next 90 days which probably means 89 days [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► yeah I've talked about my Nexus 7 on the show before and it's it's the original [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► one and so the other day because lollipop just came out well maybe I can [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► see if I can get a lollipop on that device because it wasn't included in the [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► in the beta program originally was traded back in the summer and it was not [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► one of the devices that you could install the early release on and and and [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► still there is no release for that device and how old is that which was [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► very confusing so that's where that came out two years ago [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► two and a half years ago because it came out the summer before the many and it's [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► just it's just a little odd to me that lollipop is quote out but it's not they [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► haven't created an apparently they're going to create a build for it but they [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► haven't done no good at stuff like that let's you know it's from Google to [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► Google [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► cool device they're not that I my broad impression Google overall I was talking [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► about this the other day but that it's like one of those outages and I know [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► it's you know it's obviously not mathematically true but you know the [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► first ninety percent of the effort takes have your time and the other 10% takes [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► the other 90% of your time [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► yeah it's that last 10% always is is not really 10% to really more like half [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► of anything any big project and Google is really bad going into that you know [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► and to me that like that like the hard part and for all the grapes people have [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► about you know like iowa new versions of iOS running poorly on the oldest [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► supported phones tab or iPad at least they do run and it's a lot more effort [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► to make that happen then I think people give it credit for [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► yeah and you know Google just punch on all that usually I mean I'd see or [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► Android pretty much every day every year like they've never really had a really [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► good sport even for their Nexus devices more than a year old [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► yeah because it's hard it's really really hard and they just don't even try [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► but the consensus seems to be that if I want the best like the state of the art [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► and great experience today [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► get a Moto X the new moto acts as they kept the name is Amy routier it's [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► interesting and everybody seems to agree with it to the consensus is that the [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► best build quality too good keynote competitive camera and Motorola's [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► extension it's not just a pure you know like the way that the Nexus has the pure [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► Google Android experience like Android 5.0 with nothing you know unadulterated [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► moto axes version is pretty close to stock and the only thing they really do [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► is they had their own applications says system apps he can't delete but they [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► don't change the system itself you know like the notification center looks like [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► the pure Android notification center you know stuff yeah it's a lot more it's [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► it's really really close to stock Android with a few Motorola sprinkles as [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► opposed to the HTC and [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► and Samsung Wave sort of getting in at the system level and I would love to [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► treasure me I would too I don't know how you can get your hands on either from [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► what I've read I suspect that while it would be fun to use its probably crappy [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► enough that you would want to blow a couple hundred bucks on it because you [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► know what I love to see what the users p.m. what the what the software's like [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► substantially different from the looks of it yet very very custom yeah I don't [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► know what's going to having people keep talking about all accounts because jimmy [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► is going worldwide now and I don't know what's gonna happen if they come the [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► United States I don't think yeah I don't think they ever will come to any I don't [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► think they're ever going to come to a country with strong IP o's rain I really [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► done they're gonna stick I think they can they can grow they have a lot of [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► room to grow just staying in Asian countries where there is the way that [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► they operate in a way that they so shamelessly copied stuff that I just [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► don't see how they're gonna just don't see how they could do it [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► yeah I wouldn't think that I will be there five minutes before they get [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► slapped with a suit well and let's come back when we come back let's talk about [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► your thing before about the Apple do with the iPhone next year [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► ok so remember that but I'll take a break here [TS]

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00:50:29 ◼   ► Movember of this Movember yep so it's a little late now to get started but [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► better late than never but the idea with november's you you you do a full shave [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► shave your face and then for the rest of the month you just grow out your [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► mustache and the idea is when you start to look goofy and people say something [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► to you you mentioned November and what it is is you raise money for men's [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► health issues you know things like colon checked and everything like that so [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► carries dot com is the official razor partner of Movember they will be there [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► for the entire area month to whether or not you grow your mo carries you can get [TS]

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00:51:24 ◼   ► important men's health issues totally worth checking out [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► really good cause I mean we supposed to men's health [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► great great cause and again I've said this before it carries products are just [TS]

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00:51:46 ◼   ► to me that says it all is that they don't do not like like like white label [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► blades they put their brands on they bought their own razor blade factory in [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► Germany factory that's been crafting razors blades for almost a century they [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► bought it and now they make their own and by cutting out the middleman that's [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► that's the main way that they can offer [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► really high quality stuff and fraction of the price of drugstore brands and [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► it's literally even if you go to Amazon who is not known for being undercut up [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► prices [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► you know compare the price of Harry's blade forces July plate number of blades [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► on that thing it's about half-price really really great price their starters [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► shave set starts at just 15 bucks that includes the razor handle three blades [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► and your choice of Harry's shave cream or their new foaming shave gel I I've [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► only ever used the shave cream I like that stuff but shaver you'd like the [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► foaming I'm currently I'm actually yeah when I used to do the straight razor [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► blade the foaming stuff so I don't like the phone I can they can't see I can't [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► see what's going on but if you like the foaming stuff they've got that now too [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► with their shape just so you get to pick what you want I just think feels good on [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► your face I think it's whatever had to adjust my dad always used the foamy [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► stuff so I don't like the regular shape cream that doesn't really foam up but [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► anyway you get your pic and they also just released a new aftershave [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► moisturizer they sent me some of that and I asked for but I guess cuz they [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► sponsor the show they sent me some smells really good I get really high [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► quality stuff all of their stuff comes in the most amazing packaging before [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► it's like the type of packaging background me doesn't want to throw away [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► and then I start thinking myself when I don't you know you're gonna be on [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► hoarders show because you're crazy in the box you're keeping that cardboard [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► box a razor blade came in because you like the fonts [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► seriously I have to like I have to do a double take and then I go to throw it in [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► the trash can and it's like a king [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► all right now but it's real a target the packaging is really great stuff if you [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► haven't checked them out [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► God for god sake do it now while november is going on [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► go to Harry's dot com and they'll give you five bucks off if you type in my [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► coupon code my coupon code is the talk show i dont have in front of me I pinned [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► you talk show I'm sure it'll work and go to calm and use that when you check out [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► you'll get five bucks off your order which is you know twenty fifty bucks to [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► get started so there you go one third of the price knocked off to start go check [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► them out at Harry's dot com never been shaving my head for like a year and a [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► half now yeah I never shaved it with a blade have always used an electric but I [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► should try it was a really nice clean cut some people do it do it right but [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► you can't see I don't know how to do it I have enough time to shave my face when [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► I can look at is as hard now so next year's iPhones I had a lot of people [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► talking about this is what we're gonna do with the four in size [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► thinking yeah because I see a lot of a lot of people have been publishing their [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► whatever like months months with the iPhone 6 plus or minus with the iPhone 6 [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► every since early like him I like the device [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► well enough about a six and but but I mostly what was that like about it is [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► the extra features as opposed to the larger screen if I could I would [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► actually go back to the Florange I would too I in fact I did it for two weeks I [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► went back just to see you know what I thought I actually took my sim card out [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► and went back to my 5s for 24 weeks and really liked it but ultimately went back [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► to the six because I can definitely tell I can absolutely Pepsi challenge the [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► superior photos especially indoors possible that outdoors in sunlight I [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► couldn't Pepsi challenge the photos but indoors I can definitely do it so much [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► less noise and brighter writer exposures and really low light on the sex that [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► it's that alone almost makes it seals the deal I also can tell and this is [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► something I didn't like when I wrote my review of it that I didn't notice and [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► it's a sort of thing that it why I wish that I could always take six weeks to [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► rate these reviews like a used to before I got the review unit as opposed to [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► doing it in like one week but I can the first week with it the two new phones I [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► noticed that the screens are nice but I didn't notice that they were actually [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► nicer than the 5s like ya later and there's that whole that the big thing I [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► was obsessed with the first week was the increase in pixels per inch on the six [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► place that they went to this 1920 by 1080 resolution runs it three acts right [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► now but on the fly they scale it down to like this weird 2.7 X scaling factor and [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► I spent the whole week like you know take my glasses on taking them off [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► squinting real close trying to see if I could see you know the scaling and AM [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► excited and it really the six plus really does look nicer to me like you [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► get really close to it and text looks better because there's more pixels per [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► inch even though they're scaling and it's not true three acts it really does [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► look better than two acts and the regular 6 has the same 326 pixels per [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► inch as the five ass i didnt notice in the first week with the phone cuz I was [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► obsessed with just the pixels per inch and their six had the same pixels per [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► inch for the 5s and I didn't really bother looking at it too much but now lo [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► these almost what two months later and with me having gone back to the 5s for [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► two weeks and now back to the sex I can really noticed that the six you know the [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► fact that had the same pixels per inch side is so much as a really nice [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► improvement to the screen and it and know that they talked about the fact [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► that they added a polarizing filter or a new polarizing filter so it looks better [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► with polarized sunglasses but I think something to do with that [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► also the screen is even closer to the glass than before it's even know that I [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► raved about it endlessly when they first went right now with the iPhone 4 that it [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► really looked like the the pixels are closer to the glass but now it's so much [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► closer to that it makes like my iPhone 5 look like the screen is too far behind [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► the glass and it even makes all of my iPad everything I look at other phone [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► look like the pixels are 22 [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► glass and that's really nice but bottom line is it's all about the field in my [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► hand and I like the four-inch feel in my hand I do I use my phone so much of the [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► time they use my phone I really only have one hand rates it's just a [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► humongous issue I can I can't bring myself to get into region bility to use [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► reach ability you know even though my complaint is about not being able to [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► reach staff at the top with my grip it never occurs to me [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► gently Palma right and I have no there's no support at the bottom and I'm [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► reaching across the phone to get to the corner doing it right now which is where [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► my mouth is turning away from the microphone but and then just i know im [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► gonna drop it at some point because it's not a secure hold but reach ability to [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► get there but it doesn't often doesn't fire for me on the first try and so then [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► I'm doing this extra thing that he didn't used to have to do and sometimes [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► it's not working and it's not it's not solving the problem for me [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► definitely I just never occurred to me to use it it's it's part of what I love [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► about iOS is even more than Mac OS 10 to me the system makes such a coherent [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► sense the design of the way that you go in and out about and navigate within and [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► it's like I'm in just whenever I'm using my iPhone I'm just in a certain mental [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► zone and it using reach ability takes me out of that you know because it's not on [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► screen like part of what to me the magic of iOS is that everything is on the [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► screen [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► anything you can do something you can see on the screen and that's a profound [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► decrease in abstraction like that's why I think that the like the hardware back [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► button that Android use even though they draw it on screen now on most phones [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► but the fact that it outside the rules of the system it just never occurs to me [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► and I find it hard to remember that that's you know that the only thing you [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► ever have to do an IRS that's that's hardware related is hit the home button [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► software allows you know and then there's things like volume but their [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► value makes sense that hardware because it's it's not the software you're [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► manipulating its what they actually make sense it's hard workers it's the device [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► that emits the sound and using readability just takes me outside that [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► it feels like it's not on the screen [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► you know if if if somehow I could just swipe my thumb down and the phone would [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► magically know that I'm swiping down to read something I'd probably use it all [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► the time but there is of course no way the phone could read your mind know that [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► you're sweating reachability as opposed to yeah you know if it could go read [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► your mind in theory I mean I know that I'm just saying I would use it all the [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► time I would I would just drag the screen down in you know that the hit the [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► back button but it's a big issue for me I also really really don't like the size [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► of it in my jeans and I keep sexually I really don't notice the difference there [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► I definitely do I think part of it too is that when I read my review in [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► September I was still somewhat shorts weather I might have spent more time [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► with shorts I don't know but that's why I keep I keep targeting the mute switch [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► as I take it in and out of my jeans I also I just don't like it I even like [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► the flat side of the iPhone 5s I kinda like that but I also kinda like the new [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► 12 I mean I love the feel like the Smithfield to check that one up to [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► a wash because if there were in the area 4.05% 6 that had this shape I wouldn't [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► be complaining yeah I wouldn't either but I do think my thing is that I [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► noticed after switching back to the 5s for two weeks that it the flat sides [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► make for a nicer iPhone as camera to take a picture it feels more natural in [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► my hands to have my fingers pinching flat side but I'll call it a wash it [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► overall though how easy it is to reach everything with holding the phone in one [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► hand and how big it is in my pocket and it sometimes it seems like so so [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► our friend never morgan's game came out last night [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► space age and downloaded that and you know it's nice having a larger screen [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► play game but I don't think to me it's not enough it's not know I have a night [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► at it it's not nice enough on the phone to make the difference for me no [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► question when you're using it it's you know there are certainly reasons to to [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► prefer bigger screen i mean i i i watch most most of the day in the summer when [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► baseball seasons in and i watch seriously i watch you know I don't know [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► over a hundred yankee games a year the ones I don't watch on TV I usually watch [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► on my iPad but I wound up just for convenience sake sometimes watching them [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► on my phone and obviously watching something that's the equivalent of TV [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► like a ballgame the bigger the screen the better you know even the six places [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► better you know but that's to me isn't important enough to optimize which phone [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► i get if there were a 4.0 inch iPhone 6 3rd size zero hesitation a hundred [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► percent certainty that's the one I would have bought yeah well I think I mean at [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► this point I wanted to try it [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► try to bigger size and see if I liked it better but I've come to the conclusion [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► that they don't it's not even if it is your decision than almost any other in [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► the Apple product line no hesitation I think the iPhone 6 is I don't and I [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► here's the big here's the thing that I think its loss in this is that people [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► who'd love big phones and I know that they'd really do there are people who [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► love the five to six plus you know for whatever reason they seemed to as a [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► group to lump them all together they seem to think just unilaterally big [TS]

01:06:01 ◼   ► phones are better and you know now that now that the iPhone has bigger screens [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► iPhone users will see what they've been missing out on some years [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► everybody will see it and we'll get to appreciate it I don't doubt that the [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► right but I do I really do think though that there are you know I'm certain now [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► having used it for this but having gone back that you know it's the scale of [TS]

01:06:23 ◼   ► form factors that people want in phones definitely goes beneath four point seven [TS]

01:06:31 ◼   ► inches for you know my my my short version is not that the iPhone 6 is too [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► big it's that it's too big to be the smallest iPhone did I not that I'm [TS]

01:06:45 ◼   ► doubting that there are some people who loved the size and that it's perfect for [TS]

01:06:48 ◼   ► them so what are they gonna do next year [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► yeah I don't know if they don't update the that the four inch form factor [TS]

01:07:01 ◼   ► though what I hope they do is is expand the top of the line you know which would [TS]

01:07:09 ◼   ► be next year I would expect in a nine system-on-a-chip and you know and even [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► better camera I would say well I hope they do is expand to three sizes in a [TS]

01:07:21 ◼   ► day or whatever they call it you know if it's may I don't know if they're going [TS]

01:07:26 ◼   ► to stick with this thing where they seems you know if next year's 4.7 inch [TS]

01:07:32 ◼   ► is the exact same physical sizes and they call it the success and they called [TS]

01:07:36 ◼   ► the other one the success + and they fit the same cases and maybe they just [TS]

01:07:41 ◼   ► update the colors of them at all to show that the new ones and introduce I don't [TS]

01:07:47 ◼   ► know I found six air call it the iPhone 6 share and make it the orange size [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► with like I said what I would hope for is they would have their own and the new [TS]

01:08:00 ◼   ► camera and all that but oh well I think I'll have a bullpen matter what what i [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► think is more likely is that they would make it do it's sort of like they did [TS]

01:08:13 ◼   ► the five-seat two years ago and that the for it this is what I think is more [TS]

01:08:18 ◼   ► likely that the foreign size there will be a new phone but it'll be like the [TS]

01:08:24 ◼   ► five-seat might be even be plastic and would have the internal specs of these [TS]

01:08:33 ◼   ► phones this a a 8049 [TS]

01:08:40 ◼   ► and the camera from this phone and it would be $100 lower starting price than [TS]

01:08:47 ◼   ► the success yeah that sounds more likely to me I think it's way more likely [TS]

01:08:51 ◼   ► because I think they have to they can't prices they can't make yeah I think you [TS]

01:08:57 ◼   ► know the screen size alone isn't enough for up to $100 difference right you know [TS]

01:09:03 ◼   ► that it would be eating into their profit margins too much you know that [TS]

01:09:09 ◼   ► you know they can't justify it wouldn't cost $100 less to do it so I think it'd [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► be more likely that it would be like the six see the iPhone 6 see and it would be [TS]

01:09:20 ◼   ► four inches but it would be a year behind on the specs to me the plastic [TS]

01:09:24 ◼   ► seems to belong at the bottom line no because what happens then I mean you [TS]

01:09:27 ◼   ► can't you can't then take the 5s and move it down to the free model and have [TS]

01:09:32 ◼   ► a plastic on the screen sizes the same that's what they did with the pipe they [TS]

01:09:40 ◼   ► had 24 s 125 C came out at the bottom but that was a different screen size [TS]

01:09:49 ◼   ► and it doesn't seem like they can push down i mean maybe they could just make a [TS]

01:09:53 ◼   ► new 25 C so then the bottom two would be both plastic yeah something like that I [TS]

01:10:03 ◼   ► don't know but that's what I worry that they're going to do and then I worry [TS]

01:10:07 ◼   ► that on the CPU side I would I probably would just prefer size alone and I'll [TS]

01:10:18 ◼   ► take the year olds CPU specs and get the small but I very much worried that the [TS]

01:10:27 ◼   ► camera in next year's iPhone will be so much better again than this year's that [TS]

01:10:32 ◼   ► yeah even though I'm so impressed this year with this camera I think next [TS]

01:10:36 ◼   ► year's cameras gonna be so much better that I won't be stuck getting the four [TS]

01:10:40 ◼   ► point seven in 2010 for the camera even I would take the aid the year old aid [TS]

01:10:45 ◼   ► because I don't really play a lot of games and stuff like that and it's you [TS]

01:10:49 ◼   ► know I don't know that that getting an improved a nine would mean that much to [TS]

01:10:53 ◼   ► me but the camera would I mention this a few episodes ago [TS]

01:11:02 ◼   ► firm thing about it but I heard a rumor of a rumor from a birdie who knows a [TS]

01:11:08 ◼   ► party like a distant but that number one it's it's not looking at every single [TS]

01:11:14 ◼   ► year the cameras gotten better on the iPhone I think except for the first [TS]

01:11:18 ◼   ► except for the 3G did in 2008 iPhone had the same camera as the original 2007 [TS]

01:11:26 ◼   ► like still didn't shoot video still was really ever since the 3ds every single [TS]

01:11:34 ◼   ► year the guy from camera has gotten noticeably better like enough better [TS]

01:11:38 ◼   ► than it was at the camera alone was tempting to be the reason that you [TS]

01:11:43 ◼   ► upgrade every single year [TS]

01:11:45 ◼   ► at least if you care about photography and it's so there's no reason to think [TS]

01:11:50 ◼   ► that's going to stop anyway but that the specific thing I heard is that their [TS]

01:11:53 ◼   ► next year's camera might be like the biggest camera jump ever that they've [TS]

01:11:58 ◼   ► got like really yeah that is I don't even know it since this makes but that [TS]

01:12:04 ◼   ► I've heard that it's it's some kind of weird to lens system like the back [TS]

01:12:07 ◼   ► camera uses two lenses and I don't know somehow that it takes it up and sell our [TS]

01:12:14 ◼   ► quality imagery I don't know that well and in some ways that and that's what [TS]

01:12:20 ◼   ► I've heard but it it can't really mean SLO our quality caused a lot of what [TS]

01:12:24 ◼   ► makes SLR or and in the digital age for Thirds cameras which are an SLR but you [TS]

01:12:31 ◼   ► know what it means is big center and a lot of what makes a big cameras with big [TS]

01:12:36 ◼   ► sensors have better imagery is is physics you know there's risks involved [TS]

01:12:42 ◼   ► and have to do but that there's something they could do with two lenses [TS]

01:12:48 ◼   ► I don't just makes the photos if not a technical level SLR quality but at a [TS]

01:12:54 ◼   ► practical level for consumers taking pictures you know closer to sell ours I [TS]

01:13:01 ◼   ► don't know but that it's a big enough jump that anybody who cares about the [TS]

01:13:04 ◼   ► photographer e even if you really want a foreign phone again you're gonna get the [TS]

01:13:09 ◼   ► 4.7 yeah I feel like the last two cameras have been plenty of camera for [TS]

01:13:15 ◼   ► me I'm not as big a camera but as you are and for years it did seem like you [TS]

01:13:20 ◼   ► ok ok I'm basically taking pictures with this because it's the one that's in my [TS]

01:13:26 ◼   ► pocket and I don't I don't be like that anymore like it's it's practically [TS]

01:13:31 ◼   ► speaking caught up to almost everything that I need now is they've gotten so [TS]

01:13:36 ◼   ► good it's time you know and I'm a guy is you know every every couple of years not [TS]

01:13:42 ◼   ► every year like every couple years I'll drop $800,000 I really do care about [TS]

01:13:48 ◼   ► some of that stuff and I really I could just see looking at [TS]

01:13:51 ◼   ► my you know like my Lightroom archive that every year it's more and more or [TS]

01:13:57 ◼   ► less and less photos shot with anything other than the iPhone it's always it [TS]

01:14:04 ◼   ► just gets more and more evenly on vacation and I have the camera camera [TS]

01:14:08 ◼   ► camera with me and it's like an affiliate look around my neck I just [TS]

01:14:11 ◼   ► what I do I think I think the cameras when it's going to come down to four me [TS]

01:14:17 ◼   ► next year unless they do what I really really hope they do is you know but [TS]

01:14:22 ◼   ► three phones at the top of the would-be when I would love to but I don't think [TS]

01:14:27 ◼   ► they will agree but I still think I would probably like I would probably go [TS]

01:14:32 ◼   ► back to stick with the relatively same internals is this phone [TS]

01:14:37 ◼   ► four-inch screen yeah I think if the camera isn't vastly improved if it's you [TS]

01:14:44 ◼   ► know i i would be very tempted just to get that from I noticed two in here the [TS]

01:14:50 ◼   ► other anecdotal thing is like two or three weeks ago there was a little small [TS]

01:14:54 ◼   ► indeed a conference here in Philly coca love I don't speak out about how I went [TS]

01:15:01 ◼   ► to it and you know [TS]

01:15:02 ◼   ► hundred and fifty yards while Estevan you know some friends marco was here [TS]

01:15:10 ◼   ► Dave Dave Wilkinson [TS]

01:15:12 ◼   ► here but I mean I met a lot of new people to really get out much so even [TS]

01:15:17 ◼   ► though the leaving the local people a lot of them are new to me and people [TS]

01:15:23 ◼   ► notice it was that was occurred during that two-week stretch where I went back [TS]

01:15:27 ◼   ► to my 5s and a lot of people noticed that I was using a 5s and specific they [TS]

01:15:31 ◼   ► asked and every almost every single person who I talk to about it was like [TS]

01:15:37 ◼   ► nodding their head in agreement that i've you know and they have a lot of [TS]

01:15:41 ◼   ► there are people who had this 626 + and all we're thinking the same thing that I [TS]

01:15:47 ◼   ► love so much about this newfound except that it's bigger yeah [TS]

01:15:52 ◼   ► so there's definitely and it's not just you and I are not outliers like we may [TS]

01:15:56 ◼   ► not be the majority like the the split across the product line may not be [TS]

01:16:02 ◼   ► one-third one-third one-third of they did this but I think that it's I think [TS]

01:16:06 ◼   ► it's may be close to at least a quarter of people would prefer the foreign size [TS]

01:16:09 ◼   ► yeah I think so too I mean I talk to me it seems like most of the people that [TS]

01:16:14 ◼   ► are too [TS]

01:16:15 ◼   ► actually yes I got a friend who who has signed up in size pants and so he got [TS]

01:16:23 ◼   ► his six-plus and he feels like he's home is even though he had a for which was [TS]

01:16:27 ◼   ► waiting you know thinking they're going to make a new they're gonna make one [TS]

01:16:31 ◼   ► it's better to wait for that and so we got six plus when I came out it's [TS]

01:16:37 ◼   ► perfect for him but our neighbor of the street was talking before the phone [TS]

01:16:43 ◼   ► these phones came out she said she said it's gonna be bigger only like I'm [TS]

01:16:48 ◼   ► getting my mom is on the 3ds keep saying when you get a new phone you need to get [TS]

01:16:57 ◼   ► a new phone software updates anymore and and then it was like ok well if I can [TS]

01:17:03 ◼   ► get a huge phone so I guess you should get the five pass and my wife same [TS]

01:17:14 ◼   ► things like that but the phone is so all the people I know who were in the market [TS]

01:17:21 ◼   ► right now are not terribly excited about the larger form factor I you know and I [TS]

01:17:28 ◼   ► think it's I think it's a complicated product marketing problem you know where [TS]

01:17:35 ◼   ► I think part of it clearly there are people out of sight I mean I know this [TS]

01:17:41 ◼   ► that there are people who love like your big handed friend who love the six plus [TS]

01:17:45 ◼   ► and I know that there are people with tiny hands who love the six plus you [TS]

01:17:49 ◼   ► know there are human and I know you know talking Ben Thompson huge every every [TS]

01:17:54 ◼   ► woman in Asia yeah [TS]

01:17:56 ◼   ► has a big dyke phablet size six inch phone and they were all all of them [TS]

01:18:02 ◼   ► wanted an iPhone we're all waiting for the six plus and and you know it's [TS]

01:18:06 ◼   ► almost like for some of the people who like to women with really small and that [TS]

01:18:10 ◼   ► they couldn't use the iPhone for one-handed either so the whole [TS]

01:18:12 ◼   ► one-handed thing wasn't an issue anyway so you might as well get a bit so I know [TS]

01:18:16 ◼   ► that it's not just an issue not just appealing to people with large hands [TS]

01:18:20 ◼   ► it's you know it's across the board [TS]

01:18:22 ◼   ► some people just use their phone to handle all the time if so why not get [TS]

01:18:27 ◼   ► the biggest one but it's not just nerdy others I just me like Amy who uses her [TS]

01:18:34 ◼   ► iPhone very differently from me she's nowhere near she's not on anywhere near [TS]

01:18:38 ◼   ► as much as I am but she she doesn't like the six eyes either she thinks it's [TS]

01:18:43 ◼   ► ridiculous she really can't believe that there's a bigger size it's pretty [TS]

01:18:50 ◼   ► astounding yeah well it you know it's funny it's funny cuz I even had one as a [TS]

01:19:00 ◼   ► review unit and they use it for a week but at the colo conference you know and [TS]

01:19:05 ◼   ► everybody had i phone every item out of the time and there were people of course [TS]

01:19:08 ◼   ► not just the people who you know who are not in agreement with me that the six is [TS]

01:19:12 ◼   ► too big but there are of course other people who had the six plus you see them [TS]

01:19:15 ◼   ► with it [TS]

01:19:16 ◼   ► wow yeah yeah I gotta get my 44 sitting here just feels really good I do I love [TS]

01:19:30 ◼   ► just a few like a phone to me now have a good feel like 2525 s bottom of the 5s [TS]

01:19:37 ◼   ► is at this point peak iPhone that it's actually to me I brought the overall [TS]

01:19:42 ◼   ► best iPhone ever made to me is a great just 25 was was the forms back trouble [TS]

01:19:49 ◼   ► with got dinged up badly it wasn't it was nice to build right let's take [TS]

01:19:57 ◼   ► another break here in another longtime friend of the show our good friends [TS]

01:20:02 ◼   ► Backblaze Backblaze is unlimited on throttled back up for your Mac online [TS]

01:20:12 ◼   ► backup you sign up for Backblaze you get this software to install on your Mac [TS]

01:20:16 ◼   ► written by former engineers at Apple really really good software nice [TS]

01:20:20 ◼   ► interface easy to understand and runs very very quietly in the background [TS]

01:20:26 ◼   ► doesn't you never know when it's on or not and what does it do it just backs up [TS]

01:20:31 ◼   ► everything on your Mac to their cloud servers and if you have external drives [TS]

01:20:36 ◼   ► you think well as ongoing backup my internet right now backs up all of you [TS]

01:20:41 ◼   ► think well but I've gotta for terabyte drive is ever going to back up that [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► what's the limit now it's unlimited now might take a long time for that first [TS]

01:20:48 ◼   ► backup for terabyte if you've filled up a drive four terabytes going up through [TS]

01:20:52 ◼   ► the upstream and your internet site a couple days might take over a week but [TS]

01:20:57 ◼   ► wanted backed up everything after that is incremental and it just runs after [TS]

01:21:03 ◼   ► that and then what what's on everything you have on your computer is in their [TS]

01:21:09 ◼   ► system and it's such a remarkable piece of mind to know that you've got a backup [TS]

01:21:16 ◼   ► that off-site so house catches on fire and your home office burned up and your [TS]

01:21:22 ◼   ► backup driver Time Machine Drive get burned up along with your computer or [TS]

01:21:25 ◼   ► your house get burgled and somebody comes in and rich off steals your stuff [TS]

01:21:30 ◼   ► your stuff your data is still somewhere safe and you can do things like use [TS]

01:21:38 ◼   ► their iPhone app to access one file you're away from your computer and you [TS]

01:21:43 ◼   ► just want to get this 15 you know it's on your computer you can use the [TS]

01:21:46 ◼   ► Backblaze a blog and go to our that file is and send it to send an email with [TS]

01:21:50 ◼   ► that is an attachment from your iPhone from anywhere or if you want to access [TS]

01:21:55 ◼   ► everything you want to do you need a full restore your you didn't have any [TS]

01:21:58 ◼   ► other backup your hard drives seized up you know the the Disk Utility can't fix [TS]

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01:22:04 ◼   ► oh my God my whole thing is busted [TS]

01:22:08 ◼   ► you can go there and what you can do at a very low price just pretty much the [TS]

01:22:12 ◼   ► cost of the hardware is you can have everything under stuff put onto a USB [TS]

01:22:16 ◼   ► hard drive and then they'll just mail it to you know like two three days later [TS]

01:22:20 ◼   ► back please send you a USB hard drive with full restore of everything from [TS]

01:22:25 ◼   ► your system and you've lost nothing can't say enough how great the services [TS]

01:22:30 ◼   ► I recommended to everybody you know what they have is the stats hundred petabytes [TS]

01:22:38 ◼   ► of data backed up on theirs in their system and one petabyte as a thousand [TS]

01:22:43 ◼   ► terabytes so that's how much they have overall from other users [TS]

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01:22:53 ◼   ► per computer so every Mac you have you spent five bucks a month for each one [TS]

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01:23:04 ◼   ► credit card required for the trial just go here go back blaze dot com slash [TS]

01:23:08 ◼   ► daring fireball Backblaze dot com slash towering fireball and sign up and [TS]

01:23:13 ◼   ► they'll know you came from the show [TS]

01:23:15 ◼   ► if you haven't done it yet this is the one sponsor above all others that I I [TS]

01:23:19 ◼   ► almost wish that they would stop sponsoring because everybody who listens [TS]

01:23:22 ◼   ► to the show with just sign up for it and but apparently every time they wanted to [TS]

01:23:26 ◼   ► show more and more people sign up but I don't know who you are who haven't [TS]

01:23:29 ◼   ► signed up yet but do it because I don't want to lose your data can't recommend [TS]

01:23:34 ◼   ► them enough what else is going on in your book your book we were talking [TS]

01:23:46 ◼   ► about you are saying about having to use word yeah that's what i was gonna ask [TS]

01:23:51 ◼   ► about that here so here's the deal you have you ever read the book before know [TS]

01:23:56 ◼   ► so you've written your first book we're part of my first base co-authored and [TS]

01:24:03 ◼   ► two other final Thurs James Clark and Corey dustman and we have written the [TS]

01:24:10 ◼   ► visual guide to to mine craft's for peach pit press our good friends at [TS]

01:24:15 ◼   ► Peachpit press and it's getting started book for four people who were interested [TS]

01:24:23 ◼   ► in getting into Minecraft or interested in learning more about some things like [TS]

01:24:28 ◼   ► how to build houses how to use redstone redstone is really an amazing things you [TS]

01:24:35 ◼   ► haven't gotten into red zone and in my craft and there's a good section on how [TS]

01:24:40 ◼   ► to use redstone you're laughing because he died laughing cuz I don't know what I [TS]

01:24:43 ◼   ► think I think redstone is the stuff that joan is called me over one day and he [TS]

01:24:48 ◼   ► said here watch this and the had a thing and he pulled a lever and then a fuse [TS]

01:24:54 ◼   ► left led off and confused burned and then he had like a fireworks show [TS]

01:24:58 ◼   ► ready to go he was probably there's probably some red Sony anything using a [TS]

01:25:03 ◼   ► lever is probably done anything great the cool thing about it is it it kind of [TS]

01:25:08 ◼   ► teaches kids teaches it's like it's almost like programming because their [TS]

01:25:14 ◼   ► gates so you can set up a series of different gates and by using these kids [TS]

01:25:18 ◼   ► you're basically using its basically the same fundamental theory that is inside [TS]

01:25:25 ◼   ► every computer logic [TS]

01:25:27 ◼   ► you know and you know one day came came to me was like I saw this thing on as [TS]

01:25:37 ◼   ► usual and YouTube and somebody made a an elevator in Minecraft using red zone is [TS]

01:25:44 ◼   ► like I want to make this thing but I can't figure out which is mostly YouTube [TS]

01:25:49 ◼   ► videos are created by a lot of them are worried about fourteen year olds or you [TS]

01:25:56 ◼   ► know people who don't necessarily have the best video production skills and and [TS]

01:26:02 ◼   ► presentation skills and this guy was better than most but he also got halfway [TS]

01:26:07 ◼   ► through something up in just likes to try to correct it on the fly so it was [TS]

01:26:13 ◼   ► pretty aggravating for me having to put this but we got through it we got it [TS]

01:26:17 ◼   ► done and some of that stuff is in the book my section is the guy got the [TS]

01:26:23 ◼   ► beginning section which is how to basic game installation and using the [TS]

01:26:29 ◼   ► interface and then also surviving surviving your first day which if your [TS]

01:26:35 ◼   ► first for me it was like the the hard part getting into the game was like ok [TS]

01:26:40 ◼   ► you just get dropped in this world and there are no instructions really [TS]

01:26:42 ◼   ► whatsoever and it's what am I supposed to do around here what what's Mike with [TS]

01:26:49 ◼   ► my goal here so I talked about that and then do some basic introduction and like [TS]

01:26:55 ◼   ► and how to setup a server that section and how to install mods [TS]

01:27:00 ◼   ► your section is also available as its own stand-alone book yeah all of the [TS]

01:27:04 ◼   ► section of them are so you know if you go so you can go to be present a common [TS]

01:27:10 ◼   ► looking like a visual guide to Minecraft and you can get any other sections [TS]

01:27:16 ◼   ► separately as e-books get the book and we're also doing some video stuff that [TS]

01:27:23 ◼   ► goes along with that so you buy the books you'll get access to that once [TS]

01:27:28 ◼   ► it's available via so that's why you bad mouth the 14 year olds who make the [TS]

01:27:34 ◼   ► you're saying you're saying that the video that accompanied the visual guide [TS]

01:27:39 ◼   ► to Minecraft are they don't get halfway through and realized that they hadn't [TS]

01:27:44 ◼   ► set up the right yeah that's right that's right in fact they made me do [TS]

01:27:48 ◼   ► over some they did a good sign which was so we talked about like computer [TS]

01:27:57 ◼   ► performance gaming performance on laptops and so I have my regular machine [TS]

01:28:03 ◼   ► is a 2012 managed care with four megabytes of RAM megabytes EF four [TS]

01:28:12 ◼   ► megabytes of RAM especially around it's a 1991 little things that you get doc [TS]

01:28:22 ◼   ► into the hell yeah anyway and I had done some screen capture stuff before [TS]

01:28:32 ◼   ► ok that's a problem but when you're but it's one thing to do a screen capture [TS]

01:28:36 ◼   ► stuff of just like web browsing or moving files around in the Finder when [TS]

01:28:41 ◼   ► you're playing a game and you're also running screen capture you know like a [TS]

01:28:44 ◼   ► fairly processor intensive games like Minecraft and also trying to run screen [TS]

01:28:48 ◼   ► capture software it's a problem so the fan was going [TS]

01:28:53 ◼   ► things are slowing down it and it was it was not working right so I actually had [TS]

01:28:57 ◼   ► to get banks MacBook Pro has eight gigs of ram and that was the most powerful [TS]

01:29:04 ◼   ► the most RAM that we had in the house I had to borrow hangs thanks MacBook Pro [TS]

01:29:09 ◼   ► to actually do the video production for the same how did you get started on this [TS]

01:29:16 ◼   ► like how did who who is a dummy like me who's been blabbering on the show for [TS]

01:29:24 ◼   ► months now about being not understand what the hell minecraft is this is why I [TS]

01:29:27 ◼   ► just started the book I got it last night but it seems to me like at the [TS]

01:29:31 ◼   ► very least it's going to answer the basic question of what the hell's going [TS]

01:29:33 ◼   ► on right which is really what I want so I cannot tell you how happy I am [TS]

01:29:38 ◼   ► this book I i honestly I like the the book of the year for me because i it it [TS]

01:29:46 ◼   ► is a major part of my life this game because you know I love my son and I'm [TS]

01:29:52 ◼   ► really errant yeah and I'm really it's like the first time he's really gotten [TS]

01:29:56 ◼   ► into something computer [TS]

01:29:56 ◼   ► into something computer [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► he's more into Minecraft anything else is everybody and I want to be a part of [TS]

01:30:04 ◼   ► that and I almost feel like I feel like I'm the dad who never played sports in [TS]

01:30:09 ◼   ► my kid wants to play baseball and now you're telling me that you gotta run [TS]

01:30:12 ◼   ► around these baby I don't even understand you know that's how I feel [TS]

01:30:15 ◼   ► about Minecraft yeah yeah like the dad who grew up in England and therefore [TS]

01:30:20 ◼   ► never never heard of baseball you know and now I live in the united states and [TS]

01:30:23 ◼   ► like it wants to rain [TS]

01:30:25 ◼   ► yes I did you how did you get involved at this so he admits he says he's got a [TS]

01:30:29 ◼   ► buddy who got him into Minecraft you know just like a microchip in my car so [TS]

01:30:34 ◼   ► so he starred play minecraft like couple of years ago now I think and you know [TS]

01:30:40 ◼   ► and I same thing I just like watched it from afar and then thought they should [TS]

01:30:45 ◼   ► you know he was looking for someone else to play with and so it's ok I'll start [TS]

01:30:48 ◼   ► playing but then I had that you know that reaction like that first like I [TS]

01:30:51 ◼   ► don't know what the heck I'm doing so actually watched a YouTube video that [TS]

01:30:55 ◼   ► said here's what you should try and do on your first day and and then it we [TS]

01:31:02 ◼   ► played it for you played it for at least a few months I played it for a year and [TS]

01:31:07 ◼   ► a half or something like that and last spring I wrote that article for the [TS]

01:31:14 ◼   ► magazine about right during the base of the moguls of Minecraft YouTube world [TS]

01:31:21 ◼   ► about a guy stampede diamond mine cart and other people who were making [TS]

01:31:29 ◼   ► ridiculous amounts of money doing these videos is let's play videos of Minecraft [TS]

01:31:34 ◼   ► on YouTube [TS]

01:31:36 ◼   ► trying to get to the edge of the universe I don't know I remember the [TS]

01:31:39 ◼   ► guys name but yeah just like there's just there's so many people who are [TS]

01:31:45 ◼   ► making minecraft some of these guys make make very good money doing it and just [TS]

01:31:52 ◼   ► from the YouTube just from the Utah [TS]

01:31:56 ◼   ► disorder guide stampede [TS]

01:32:00 ◼   ► members named after my head just just a carrot [TS]

01:32:03 ◼   ► he Financial Times was trying to figure out how much he made and they estimated [TS]

01:32:11 ◼   ► it grosses between 80,000 and eight hundred thousand dollars a month during [TS]

01:32:18 ◼   ► these videos and Google takes the kind of attitude like 45 percent and then his [TS]

01:32:26 ◼   ► network that he works with the does promotion for him takes account of that [TS]

01:32:31 ◼   ► so he's not he's not letting that but still but his operation as an operation [TS]

01:32:36 ◼   ► between thirty thousand three hundred thousand dollars a month [TS]

01:32:40 ◼   ► Google takes up much importantly I guess I can something like that I mean range [TS]

01:32:50 ◼   ► 30% seems like the gentleman's cap [TS]

01:32:53 ◼   ► like you know me like everybody can complain that Apple takes 30% and I know [TS]

01:32:59 ◼   ► amazon has some things are they take thirty seems like 30 percent is the [TS]

01:33:02 ◼   ► gentleman's cap for slicing off a top of every dollar that comes through your [TS]

01:33:09 ◼   ► corporate thing anything more than that seems a little yeah but anyway so cliff [TS]

01:33:17 ◼   ► colby who is a guy who works at [TS]

01:33:20 ◼   ► and I have known him for years and we talked two years ago when I was writing [TS]

01:33:25 ◼   ► crazy rumors we talked about doing a book but I could never get my act [TS]

01:33:28 ◼   ► together and can figure out what the heck to rate and so who saw that article [TS]

01:33:32 ◼   ► he's like hey you know I think we should do in Minecraft book and get some other [TS]

01:33:37 ◼   ► people to do some different sections and be relatively easy to put together so [TS]

01:33:42 ◼   ► let's do it so he's the one we talked to WWDC when I was down there [TS]

01:33:48 ◼   ► Francisco which is where there were people is based hands basically wrote it [TS]

01:33:56 ◼   ► over the summer and into the fall and the video production how big how big is [TS]

01:34:02 ◼   ► your section I think my sections about forty plus pages forty to fifty pages [TS]

01:34:10 ◼   ► something like that so it's not not huge no no it's not huge [TS]

01:34:16 ◼   ► but it takes time so it's an interesting it's an interesting process and all of [TS]

01:34:20 ◼   ► it you know all of it in Word was not i wud that's one of many more men are used [TS]

01:34:28 ◼   ► to be ok but they do these people book production companies they they really [TS]

01:34:35 ◼   ► know all in all not just well we need we just need to agree on a file format that [TS]

01:34:43 ◼   ► we all can read it's because they're change tracking yeah it's mostly I think [TS]

01:34:48 ◼   ► the promise the biggest thing is the train change tracking and then after [TS]

01:34:52 ◼   ► that its formatting stuff I don't because they have all these so they have [TS]

01:34:57 ◼   ► alter their templates built into Word already so they provided me a template [TS]

01:35:04 ◼   ► and I typed into the template and then you know I would use they had macros [TS]

01:35:11 ◼   ► that would do [TS]

01:35:12 ◼   ► formatting stuff so yeah it's a part serious but I'm curious because I am a [TS]

01:35:21 ◼   ► writer I have written a lot I think I did a word count exported everything [TS]

01:35:29 ◼   ► from during fireball before xoxo I didn't actually include this in my talk [TS]

01:35:33 ◼   ► but caused by talking xoxo was about what it's like to have written during [TS]

01:35:36 ◼   ► fireball you know how I built it into a business and 12 years or whatever but I [TS]

01:35:42 ◼   ► was curious cuz Jim could I asked me a couple months ago how much have you [TS]

01:35:46 ◼   ► written by never counted before so I wrote a script exported everything from [TS]

01:35:50 ◼   ► the linked list and from my articles and I wrote a script that cut out all of the [TS]

01:35:55 ◼   ► block quoted material so the blockquote didn't count and it was remarkably even [TS]

01:36:01 ◼   ► there was a little bit over nine hundred thousand words for both linked list [TS]

01:36:05 ◼   ► entries in my column entries [TS]

01:36:09 ◼   ► so it's you know close to looks like maybe like within the next year I'll [TS]

01:36:14 ◼   ► crossed like the two million words sounds like a lot of words that's a lot [TS]

01:36:19 ◼   ► of that is a lot of words it really does its own sounds like about it right and [TS]

01:36:26 ◼   ► the basic I i've Google this many times but the books obviously very great with [TS]

01:36:31 ◼   ► greatly in length but like the typical length of the book is somewhere around [TS]

01:36:35 ◼   ► like sixty to eighty thousand words you know or something like that so it's you [TS]

01:36:42 ◼   ► know like the equivalent of a lot of bucks but but I've never written I've [TS]

01:36:47 ◼   ► never written anything in my life that's more than maybe four thousand words and [TS]

01:36:51 ◼   ► I don't know that I can I call you when I was younger I used to think eventually [TS]

01:36:55 ◼   ► you have to write a book that's if you want to be a writer you gotta gotta read [TS]

01:37:00 ◼   ► a book but you know I don't know I'm getting pretty old and I haven't written [TS]

01:37:04 ◼   ► it's really just a min particularly for something like this it's it's just them [TS]

01:37:09 ◼   ► it's like you're writing a series of articles I wrote a different number of [TS]

01:37:15 ◼   ► different sections different topics and so each one was its own little thing I [TS]

01:37:21 ◼   ► also think that I don't want to be too much like the princess and the pea but I [TS]

01:37:25 ◼   ► don't know that I could bring myself to working with word a real estate and that [TS]

01:37:32 ◼   ► sounds so my struggles with my hardware of the video production part which is [TS]

01:37:36 ◼   ► really just my own fault the the word partisan I you know I'm so picky about [TS]

01:37:43 ◼   ► what I write that I invented a thing that people use I invented markdown [TS]

01:37:47 ◼   ► specifically because I wasn't happy with what happened before that can imagine [TS]

01:37:51 ◼   ► writing anything long form not marked it seems like writing and mark down then [TS]

01:37:56 ◼   ► going into moving in the world would be such a huge pain in the ass [TS]

01:38:01 ◼   ► it is I tried that at first because once you do it right and it doesn't work [TS]

01:38:05 ◼   ► because once you have to make edits you can't go back [TS]

01:38:13 ◼   ► that's actually you know [TS]

01:38:14 ◼   ► to go back 10 years because I think I think this fall is the 10 year [TS]

01:38:20 ◼   ► anniversary of markdown 1.0 but the public beta came out in February so [TS]

01:38:25 ◼   ► we're past 10 years of public marked down but before markdown was marked down [TS]

01:38:31 ◼   ► it was it was a series of filters I had in BBEdit that we're like one way like I [TS]

01:38:42 ◼   ► would start by writing marked down like a very prototypical early version of [TS]

01:38:46 ◼   ► mark down that was mostly just like automatically putting paragraph tags in [TS]

01:38:50 ◼   ► between blank lines and tell you know asterisks Retalix and some kind of [TS]

01:38:57 ◼   ► shorthand for links so I would write that way and then I would run my name [TS]

01:39:03 ◼   ► for it but I would run the script and it would turn it into HTML copy and paste [TS]

01:39:08 ◼   ► the HTML into movable type but that grew it didn't last long because I would [TS]

01:39:15 ◼   ► think I was done with the article but then thought of something new I want to [TS]

01:39:20 ◼   ► go back but it's too late now had already need to Malin I'm stuck writing [TS]

01:39:24 ◼   ► HTML which is the whole reason I started writing the script in the first place to [TS]

01:39:27 ◼   ► let me use asterisks and stuff like that and even worse and worse to do it with [TS]

01:39:33 ◼   ► something that's rich text like yeah where'd ya and I know their pricing [TS]

01:39:39 ◼   ► there is there some tools out there trying to help you with that process but [TS]

01:39:42 ◼   ► yeah I gave up and when I had actually started writing in BBEdit with mark down [TS]

01:39:51 ◼   ► and then when I got to the point where I went I went to move the first section [TS]

01:39:56 ◼   ► into work I was like ok but if you write your own book you wouldn't have to use [TS]

01:40:05 ◼   ► right right I don't have to do you know go to someone like Peter patent use [TS]

01:40:10 ◼   ► their existing process I mean I'm sure that there's obviously a way that I [TS]

01:40:13 ◼   ► could I get to self-publish my own book at this point [TS]

01:40:15 ◼   ► I can do pretty well but I mean I would be surprised if David sparks actually [TS]

01:40:18 ◼   ► written word yeah I should talk to it would actually almost be hypocritical [TS]

01:40:28 ◼   ► since he's you know he's written a really really good [TS]

01:40:32 ◼   ► markdown book he uses iBooks Author has recently [TS]

01:40:41 ◼   ► so what would be the point I should there be no point going forward I [TS]

01:40:47 ◼   ► wouldn't be surprised I did read his book and it's XIO David sparks Martin [TS]

01:40:51 ◼   ► book in this show notes but trying to bulk up the show notes I've noticed that [TS]

01:40:57 ◼   ► a lot of the podcast alike have these copious show notes that are you know [TS]

01:41:01 ◼   ► that's my value add to the soup I guess then I'm on and i i suffer from podcast [TS]

01:41:07 ◼   ► Tunisia Susan done recording a podcast I don't even remember what they talked [TS]

01:41:11 ◼   ► about all I have to listen to it again that's the only way to do it right but [TS]

01:41:18 ◼   ► I'll try but only to me but i wouldnt be surprised I did read his book The maybe [TS]

01:41:21 ◼   ► a vague recollection and maybe even included something about how he wrote [TS]

01:41:25 ◼   ► the book in his production you know yeah and the other person who might notice [TS]

01:41:32 ◼   ► serenity Caldwell she has very well versed in public I think she knows more [TS]

01:41:39 ◼   ► about it than anybody who's anybody knows more than serenity I'd like to [TS]

01:41:45 ◼   ► meet them [TS]

01:41:46 ◼   ► yeah I remember her her singleton talk from two years ago about the [TS]

01:41:50 ◼   ► nitty-gritty details of trying to write trying to create an ebook just for like [TS]

01:41:55 ◼   ► just for like and candles Moby and it was like oh my god what a nightmare [TS]

01:42:04 ◼   ► yeah it was bad back in the days of special case [TS]

01:42:09 ◼   ► Internet Explorer and Netscape it's like magic if one uses HTML and one doesn't [TS]

01:42:17 ◼   ► so anyway anyway I use word right well I've used word by my license now elapsed [TS]

01:42:28 ◼   ► since I'm writing I don't know that it's later I'll get the license again I don't [TS]

01:42:35 ◼   ► even know bird looks like these days is it is it the case that does everybody [TS]

01:42:38 ◼   ► Peachpit Newsmax doesn't matter is it is it is like word at a state where they [TS]

01:42:43 ◼   ► all use Macs I don't we were so few people that I work with the Peach Pit [TS]

01:42:49 ◼   ► work left who was really basically putting the deal together you know [TS]

01:42:56 ◼   ► bringing the people together and then we had sort of a project manager who i [TS]

01:42:58 ◼   ► think is actually not a peach pit employee someone that they contract with [TS]

01:43:05 ◼   ► so I'm pretty sure she did not use a Mac but I think class uses a Mac so I don't [TS]

01:43:14 ◼   ► think it's that they're probably but it's a mixed environment I think I would [TS]

01:43:19 ◼   ► think that most of the I don't know I don't know actually it seems like a lot [TS]

01:43:25 ◼   ► of this stuff must end up going to Adobe at some point rate gas I would guess [TS]

01:43:33 ◼   ► that the book is probably actually laid out with InDesign yeah the print book I [TS]

01:43:38 ◼   ► don't know it just seemed its but they are you know the other thing I mentioned [TS]

01:43:43 ◼   ► while we're promoting the book if you go to Peachpit to buy your book they have a [TS]

01:43:48 ◼   ► really sweet deal where you can get the print version [TS]

01:43:53 ◼   ► package of ebooks epub which works and I books mobi which work on any of your [TS]

01:44:02 ◼   ► candles rapper your actual Kindle device and a PDF and they're they're not like [TS]

01:44:10 ◼   ► DRM during like that they just put a watermark on it that you know is [TS]

01:44:13 ◼   ► registered to your name so that you know if you share it you would be you [TS]

01:44:17 ◼   ► wouldn't be tempted to share it publicly publicly shamed [TS]

01:44:20 ◼   ► well probably taken to prison but which is to me that the best way to do he [TS]

01:44:28 ◼   ► books you know I know there's other companies like O'Reilly that do that and [TS]

01:44:31 ◼   ► I know that our friends it take control folks you know that they days then there [TS]

01:44:37 ◼   ► you know their brains are all cross platform in and no DRM and stuff but [TS]

01:44:41 ◼   ► that's the best deal in my opinion 2159 $21.59 and you get it all in which is a [TS]

01:44:50 ◼   ► really good deal and just to be clear we wrap it up that when you go to go to [TS]

01:44:54 ◼   ► like the iBookstore and search for multi minecraft two books show up trying to [TS]

01:45:00 ◼   ► help you search for multi minecraft to book show up and one's more expensive [TS]

01:45:06 ◼   ► than the other [TS]

01:45:07 ◼   ► that's because the one is more expensive is the one with all three of your [TS]

01:45:10 ◼   ► contributions and don't buy both because your book is just the introduction [TS]

01:45:14 ◼   ► section of the yes my my sections the first sexual let's take a break [TS]

01:45:21 ◼   ► one more sponsored I think the show but I want to say thanks to our index [TS]

01:45:28 ◼   ► sponsor and its a good friends at a Glu Glu is an internet you'll actually like [TS]

01:45:35 ◼   ► that's their slogan I said to the internet you likely like I've never [TS]

01:45:38 ◼   ► heard of another one it's built with easy to use apps shared calendars [TS]

01:45:43 ◼   ► twitter-like microblogs file-sharing task management and more [TS]

01:45:48 ◼   ► it everything you need for a team to work together better and one very [TS]

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01:45:57 ◼   ► responsive design works like a champ on virtually any device any device with a [TS]

01:46:03 ◼   ► WebKit browser like Android iOS even the new BlackBerrys Windows found it but you [TS]

01:46:13 ◼   ► know the mobile Internet Explorer is really pretty good [TS]

01:46:16 ◼   ► responsive design on all these devices works on your new plus sized iPhone [TS]

01:46:22 ◼   ► right from the start because thats to me one of the little ironies of the whole [TS]

01:46:27 ◼   ► bigger iPhone screen thing is that well-designed responsive mobile mobile [TS]

01:46:32 ◼   ► apps supported the new sizes automatically then didn't have to be [TS]

01:46:36 ◼   ► redesigned like native apps did you can review document post project updates [TS]

01:46:42 ◼   ► change administrative settings you can even complain about the u2 album from [TS]

01:46:50 ◼   ► your phone from your phone you don't have to be at a PC and using a [TS]

01:46:54 ◼   ► full-screen browser all of that stuff works from your phone [TS]

01:46:59 ◼   ► they want me to talk about it again I mention this last time they wanted to [TS]

01:47:02 ◼   ► show how do I don't really know much about enterprise I've never worked in [TS]

01:47:05 ◼   ► the enterprise but this is a big deal this Gartner Magic Quadrant report just [TS]

01:47:11 ◼   ► earlier this month [TS]

01:47:12 ◼   ► garner release their 2014 edition of this and it's their Magic Quadrant for [TS]

01:47:17 ◼   ► social software in the workplace and this is a big deal with corporate [TS]

01:47:21 ◼   ► environments for the sixth consecutive year ago was listed alongside right [TS]

01:47:28 ◼   ► alongside tech giants like Microsoft IBM Google VMware Salesforce ASAP all these [TS]

01:47:35 ◼   ► big companies you know these big huge conglomerate type companies like [TS]

01:47:38 ◼   ► Salesforce ASAP right alongside them it's a little friends and a clue as [TS]

01:47:43 ◼   ► their their products don't write up with those guys really does so the Gartner [TS]

01:47:49 ◼   ► report values things like the size of the vendor partner cause that viability [TS]

01:47:53 ◼   ► and igloo is praised by Gartner for their responsiveness and customer [TS]

01:47:59 ◼   ► experience here is an excerpt right from gardeners profile they said feedback [TS]

01:48:04 ◼   ► from includes reference customers was consistently positive they praised the [TS]

01:48:08 ◼   ► products quick deployment configuration and customization flexibility with [TS]

01:48:13 ◼   ► self-service options for non-technical users control over branding and [TS]

01:48:18 ◼   ► information organization and ease of use they also praised the responsiveness of [TS]

01:48:22 ◼   ► a clue as an organization so more or less bottom line that's that's gardener [TS]

01:48:27 ◼   ► verifying and vouching for exactly what what I've been telling you about a glue [TS]

01:48:33 ◼   ► all along ever since it became a verifiable sponsor easy to use easy to [TS]

01:48:38 ◼   ► understand it easy for non-technical people to set up the person in charge of [TS]

01:48:43 ◼   ► the glue internet for your team doesn't have to be a web programmer doesn't to [TS]

01:48:48 ◼   ► be a system administrator it's just someone who can figure out a really easy [TS]

01:48:52 ◼   ► to use visual interface for doing this really really great product I think [TS]

01:48:58 ◼   ► they're growing like gangbusters because it is so much easier and it really is [TS]

01:49:02 ◼   ► this the sort of internet that you actually use you know all their [TS]

01:49:06 ◼   ► competitors the stuff like from Microsoft SharePoint all that crap [TS]

01:49:09 ◼   ► people you if your team uses like there's evidence that shows that what [TS]

01:49:13 ◼   ► people in your team really do is they don't use it may just pass everything [TS]

01:49:16 ◼   ► around by email you glue is an internet that your team will actually use and [TS]

01:49:21 ◼   ► best of all this to me is still amazing it's free to use in perpetuity with up [TS]

01:49:26 ◼   ► to 10 people so if you attempt person or fewer team is a free product you just [TS]

01:49:31 ◼   ► use it for free and then after that you can pay very very competitive price [TS]

01:49:36 ◼   ► producer after that so if you're small team you can use it for free in [TS]

01:49:40 ◼   ► perpetuity and if you're a bigger team you can start using it try using it see [TS]

01:49:44 ◼   ► if everything I've said is true for free and then add people after that so where [TS]

01:49:50 ◼   ► do you go to find out more easy going to www.quikr.com / the talk show all one [TS]

01:49:57 ◼   ► word include software dot com slash the talk show my thanks Dave [TS]

01:50:05 ◼   ► as someone who has used corporate intranets you lose is just lately I mean [TS]

01:50:12 ◼   ► I and I have used as well just as a as a user on my own within the corporate [TS]

01:50:16 ◼   ► environment but it's such a dirty word that it's really like their home [TS]

01:50:21 ◼   ► marketing is just based on we know you hear internet and think big pile of crap [TS]

01:50:25 ◼   ► we're not that that's like rewriting them argue that we know that when you [TS]

01:50:32 ◼   ► hear that word you think it's it's just so it's so awful this so much corporate [TS]

01:50:38 ◼   ► software is so bad and this is an instance where its corporate software [TS]

01:50:43 ◼   ► software that you can use an enterprising stems that is really good [TS]

01:50:47 ◼   ► player he is speaking of writing long form writing and using markdown you [TS]

01:50:56 ◼   ► nowhere where it's really taking off and I'm fascinated by it is with screenplay [TS]

01:51:03 ◼   ► authors [TS]

01:51:04 ◼   ► movies there's two apps called once called slug line to match which is one [TS]

01:51:13 ◼   ► of the people behind and then there's high land which is from John august's [TS]

01:51:17 ◼   ► company I'll and I think started more as I get viewer that's John august [TS]

01:51:24 ◼   ► companies quote unquote ABS they don't use markdown markdown they use they the [TS]

01:51:31 ◼   ► John Innes do in a couple other ppl collaborated with like a tiny like 1% [TS]

01:51:37 ◼   ► sprinkling of a little bit for me [TS]

01:51:40 ◼   ► couple years ago [TS]

01:51:41 ◼   ► but they started with markdown and days dad made like a markdown like syntex a [TS]

01:51:46 ◼   ► call fountain and it uses like the Dodge found file extension optimized [TS]

01:51:51 ◼   ► specifically for the rules of ice cream place a unibody screenplay looks like [TS]

01:51:57 ◼   ► there's its kind in years ago I used in nineteen heard around with whatever that [TS]

01:52:02 ◼   ► heavy duty vinyl [TS]

01:52:04 ◼   ► final draft final draft yeah yeah and then you know and have also used [TS]

01:52:09 ◼   ► Scrivener which has some screenplay stuff it you can do you can do that in [TS]

01:52:15 ◼   ► Scrivener as well [TS]

01:52:16 ◼   ► final draft is the Microsoft Word of screenplay writing in the 800 pound [TS]

01:52:20 ◼   ► gorilla on the market it is tons of features in the features help drive it [TS]

01:52:24 ◼   ► and you know the file format is sort of a standard and people hate it or at [TS]

01:52:31 ◼   ► least like for the real there's some people who love microsoft word I'm not [TS]

01:52:35 ◼   ► saying again it's the same thing with the phone sizes I'm not saying that [TS]

01:52:38 ◼   ► everybody hate Microsoft Word some people love it I'm sure you know there's [TS]

01:52:43 ◼   ► people who just really get into I'm sure that people who love final draft but for [TS]

01:52:47 ◼   ► the type of people who don't like word and who would prefer to write a blog [TS]

01:52:51 ◼   ► post in a simple text editor with markdown if you're like that you don't [TS]

01:52:57 ◼   ► like writing your screenplay with Final Cut final draft final draft and so [TS]

01:53:03 ◼   ► instead there's two of these apps are great friends you know it's almost like [TS]

01:53:08 ◼   ► a friendly competition cuz they collaborated on the file format this dot [TS]

01:53:11 ◼   ► for fountain file format between them but it's very very marked down like just [TS]

01:53:16 ◼   ► with some assumptions based on the rules of ice cream place so like the way that [TS]

01:53:22 ◼   ► in screen play a character named for dialogue as always all caps so if you [TS]

01:53:26 ◼   ► write in all caps and moats return that it automatically knows that that's a [TS]

01:53:32 ◼   ► character name and that the next line is dial and you know if you want to put a [TS]

01:53:38 ◼   ► word that Alex wrapping and asterisks you know just like mark down [TS]

01:53:42 ◼   ► but it lets you use if you want to you could do something like BB it and just [TS]

01:53:47 ◼   ► write in a format that is very very readable in its native format and then [TS]

01:53:52 ◼   ► you processes and outcomes a PDF that looks like a screenplay everything's in [TS]

01:53:56 ◼   ► Currier all the margins are taking care of and stuff like that and but you could [TS]

01:54:01 ◼   ► use their apps and you know the slug line and fountain and it [TS]

01:54:05 ◼   ► format does as you're typing it looks a little bit more screenplay right off the [TS]

01:54:11 ◼   ► bat instead of you know your text but the file format you're saving underneath [TS]

01:54:16 ◼   ► is just plain tax and then you know you have that peace of mind like going back [TS]

01:54:20 ◼   ► to our discussion about iti works out like twenty years from now your [TS]

01:54:23 ◼   ► screenplay still just a plain text file you don't have to worry that slug line [TS]

01:54:27 ◼   ► is still an ass you laugh but it's no I know and laughing I'm still laughing [TS]

01:54:32 ◼   ► about the work thing and the other thing I think the reason that these apps have [TS]

01:54:39 ◼   ► taken off is even a final draft still sort of a standard like the basic gist [TS]

01:54:45 ◼   ► though as I can hear if you're a working you know screenplays screenwriter that [TS]

01:54:51 ◼   ► the canonical format that gets passed around as you submit your work and [TS]

01:54:55 ◼   ► studios read it or you know even if you're already been hired have to pass a [TS]

01:54:59 ◼   ► draft is a PDF file so it doesn't matter what you used to write it you generate a [TS]

01:55:03 ◼   ► PDF and that's what everybody reads and he stops create PDFs that looked like [TS]

01:55:08 ◼   ► perfect screenplays there's no you know there is no system in place like with [TS]

01:55:12 ◼   ► word with change tracking and stuff like that that you are obligated to use final [TS]

01:55:16 ◼   ► draft in a way and maybe some studios have something like that but for the [TS]

01:55:20 ◼   ► most part it seems like a lot of working screenwriters can just use these apps [TS]

01:55:24 ◼   ► and miss out on nothing pleases me to no end [TS]

01:55:29 ◼   ► that something I did you know like 0.000011% input from me that these guys [TS]

01:55:37 ◼   ► went out and made something inspired by it that is you know really solves a [TS]

01:55:41 ◼   ► problem [TS]

01:55:41 ◼   ► screenwriters that markdown solve for me as somebody writing for a blog right do [TS]

01:55:49 ◼   ► you do you have any 901 dropping names but I mean you know there's gotta be [TS]

01:55:57 ◼   ► some something as people who are using these apps while John August right I [TS]

01:56:02 ◼   ► mean I don't know I don't know of anybody bigger than that but you know [TS]

01:56:06 ◼   ► John August rates [TS]

01:56:07 ◼   ► you know blockbuster movies I don't know anybody you know of any other to be [TS]

01:56:13 ◼   ► pretty cool to know that you know which someone you know blockbuster movies are [TS]

01:56:17 ◼   ► written right there is pretty awesome thing about what else has been in the [TS]

01:56:24 ◼   ► news [TS]

01:56:24 ◼   ► you know what it's old news at this point but Merlin and I didn't even [TS]

01:56:28 ◼   ► mention it last week was Tim Cook coming out as gay yeah that was a guess about [TS]

01:56:34 ◼   ► two weeks ago now but I thought that was so amazingly well done almost [TS]

01:56:41 ◼   ► unbelievably how well how how how that played out [TS]

01:56:46 ◼   ► yeah I mean it's in its think i sat on my website that it's nice for people who [TS]

01:56:57 ◼   ► might be having trouble you know a guy like Tim Cook is prolly not really [TS]

01:57:01 ◼   ► having trouble as he gave you know as much trouble as some of the people are [TS]

01:57:04 ◼   ► having his gay gay people you probably did growing up though [TS]

01:57:08 ◼   ► yeah the South well I even this leave the south out of it but he's a little [TS]

01:57:13 ◼   ► bit taller than me he said around 50 and are now simply seems like that maybe a [TS]

01:57:21 ◼   ► little bit maybe slightly older some way that we could look up [TS]

01:57:32 ◼   ► how old is Tim Cook ok I told no immediate answer fifty for 24 years old [TS]

01:57:46 ◼   ► yeah I grew up in suburban Philadelphia you know it is you know what I think [TS]

01:57:54 ◼   ► relatively speaking with little bit not certainly not socially super liberal but [TS]

01:57:59 ◼   ► you know it's a little bit more liberal than the south and you know when I grew [TS]

01:58:03 ◼   ► up being gay was something that just wasn't talked about really just wasn't I [TS]

01:58:08 ◼   ► don't know when I was a kid it just I didn't really think it was sort of [TS]

01:58:13 ◼   ► vaguely knew what it meant but it didn't seem like it was anybody seemed like [TS]

01:58:17 ◼   ► something that like maybe one in 10,000 people I don't know it just seemed very [TS]

01:58:23 ◼   ► very it just seemed like something that must have been obscure cuz nobody talked [TS]

01:58:27 ◼   ► about it [TS]

01:58:27 ◼   ► yeah and I'm sure the adults in knew that it was more common but it was [TS]

01:58:32 ◼   ► something that was basically not talked about I think people think in that area [TS]

01:58:39 ◼   ► people didn't talk about it with their kids because they didn't want to give [TS]

01:58:42 ◼   ► the kids the idea I thought process that I don't know it was in for the kill [TS]

01:58:49 ◼   ► because then they will become curious about what being gay is in the kid might [TS]

01:58:52 ◼   ► become gay you know and combine it with you know combine that with the fact that [TS]

01:58:59 ◼   ► all Christian religions are generally opposed to it you know I grew up in a [TS]

01:59:04 ◼   ► Catholic family and it you know the Catholic Church considers it a send you [TS]

01:59:09 ◼   ► know they consider all sorts of skipping church is a sin to you know yes in there [TS]

01:59:14 ◼   ► obviously bad things and you know that was under that rubric [TS]

01:59:19 ◼   ► and you know people nobody was game on TV and I don't you mean TV is you know [TS]

01:59:25 ◼   ► is is not a reflection of America are of culture as a whole but it it informs it [TS]

01:59:32 ◼   ► right and I what what aspects of culture make it on the TV somehow are like this [TS]

01:59:38 ◼   ► is the parts of society this is the part of our culture that are ok and nobody [TS]

01:59:43 ◼   ► was game on TV which meant was not ok you know it was weird it was a bad time [TS]

01:59:47 ◼   ► I think about this with my son who's the center square guy on wall and Poland on [TS]

01:59:55 ◼   ► hollywood screen in hindsight early and he was gay is anybody who's ever been [TS]

02:00:03 ◼   ► gay and I had no idea I honestly as a kid I mean I'm not that old but I [TS]

02:00:08 ◼   ► honestly thought that he was just flamboyant yeah I did not I did not [TS]

02:00:14 ◼   ► realize I had no idea just didn't know whereas like I think it's amazing in one [TS]

02:00:20 ◼   ► generation that like my son is growing up in a world where you know being gay [TS]

02:00:25 ◼   ► is you know just like having different colored skin it's just some people are [TS]

02:00:30 ◼   ► that way and you know we see in philadelphia you know people are gay all [TS]

02:00:34 ◼   ► the time and you know they are friends at his school have you know some of his [TS]

02:00:39 ◼   ► friends have two months and you know it's not even if he did run as he [TS]

02:00:44 ◼   ► doesn't even think about it thanks best frank's best friend from growing up in [TS]

02:00:49 ◼   ► he met this kid when he was one or two maybe it was too but very early on and [TS]

02:00:54 ◼   ► he's got to moms and we were fortunate to go to their wedding which was not a [TS]

02:01:01 ◼   ► year ago it's awesome I cannot so happy that the world's Jensen's way but it's [TS]

02:01:09 ◼   ► you know it's not like that everywhere and it certainly wasn't no [TS]

02:01:15 ◼   ► yeah and sits in its still not like that for some people and so they think that's [TS]

02:01:19 ◼   ► why these you know somebody who successfully Kim being able to tell his [TS]

02:01:24 ◼   ► story is very important [TS]

02:01:26 ◼   ► Genesis middle school is in fifth grade now they have a club called glow I think [TS]

02:01:33 ◼   ► this is awesome and stands for gay lesbian or whatever I love that I think [TS]

02:01:39 ◼   ► that is so awesome because to me that sounds a little goofy it's a little fun [TS]

02:01:44 ◼   ► but it really sort of expresses the to me the the the modern way of thinking [TS]

02:01:50 ◼   ► which is hey whatever floats your boat [TS]

02:01:51 ◼   ► know and everybody you know is different and some people are very different and [TS]

02:01:56 ◼   ► it's all OK and you know it well fifth-graders called middle school and [TS]

02:02:01 ◼   ► ok I guess yeah but I thought that such a cool name and it's just to me is the [TS]

02:02:08 ◼   ► difference between you know his world and my world thirty years ago when I was [TS]

02:02:13 ◼   ► in fourth grade because there is no way they were going to have a gay let's go [TS]

02:02:17 ◼   ► clubbing you know and I had Siracusa talked about this I need to pee but with [TS]

02:02:24 ◼   ► that we've reached a point our culture where where nobody seems to agree that [TS]

02:02:34 ◼   ► you can't be against gay right it's it's like culturally agreed upon that it's [TS]

02:02:42 ◼   ► just you know discriminatory makes you a bad person to be against gays but you [TS]

02:02:48 ◼   ► can still be things like against gay marriage like that still like a [TS]

02:02:52 ◼   ► culturally acceptable stance to take ya decreasing Lisa decreasing liscio [TS]

02:02:59 ◼   ► definitely it's you know it's catching up to where racism was yeah I mean [TS]

02:03:07 ◼   ► people even people who are opposed to gay marriage now how hard time not at [TS]

02:03:12 ◼   ► least saying that they approve of civil unions and Brian and once you do that [TS]

02:03:17 ◼   ► you're calling for you [TS]

02:03:20 ◼   ► right right right when you're driving this difference between religious [TS]

02:03:24 ◼   ► aspects of marriage and civil aspects of it where but nobody is endorsing a point [TS]

02:03:29 ◼   ► that religions have to accept just that legally it has to be called the same [TS]

02:03:33 ◼   ► thing like like the response to nobody really sure somewhere you know obviously [TS]

02:03:41 ◼   ► on the dark side of Twitter there where people have anonymous accounts at the [TS]

02:03:46 ◼   ► you know all sorts of the ugliest thoughts that damage can have espoused [TS]

02:03:52 ◼   ► everything I say I couldn't figure out of it was aight I think it must have [TS]

02:03:58 ◼   ► been because he was saying [TS]

02:04:03 ◼   ► Tim Cook is gay so you should switch to Android and if you want I will come to [TS]

02:04:08 ◼   ► your house and pick up your Apple products and it was written in it wasn't [TS]

02:04:15 ◼   ► written as a joke it seemed you know like you know like this is it was sort [TS]

02:04:20 ◼   ► of like there was at least a decent amount of texts where this is an [TS]

02:04:24 ◼   ► abomination of nature source thing but but reading like the bottom line was the [TS]

02:04:30 ◼   ► guy was offering to drive your products like the culturally acceptable way to [TS]

02:04:42 ◼   ► of not just cheer and clap your hands [TS]

02:04:48 ◼   ► hooks essay is to sort of take us and I saw some of this a fair amount is sort [TS]

02:04:57 ◼   ► of who cares [TS]

02:04:59 ◼   ► this isn't you know you know this is why it why why why make this public this is [TS]

02:05:04 ◼   ► your make your drawing more attention to to to the issue then you know it was [TS]

02:05:09 ◼   ► totally cool before you actually you know Tim Cook actually wrote the story [TS]

02:05:12 ◼   ► yyy robust interfaces I mean they wouldn't say it that way but that's sort [TS]

02:05:16 ◼   ► of how it becomes a crafts are used putting this in my face why are you [TS]

02:05:20 ◼   ► making me think about [TS]

02:05:21 ◼   ► things that I don't want to think about and again I'm just written in syracuse [TS]

02:05:27 ◼   ► here but it's it's true like as a single person in a one-man however powerfully [TS]

02:05:33 ◼   ► is that it doesn't make that big a difference that he's now publicly out as [TS]

02:05:38 ◼   ► gay and proud of it than before when he just never spoke about it in public [TS]

02:05:42 ◼   ► doesn't make that big difference but it doesn't make a difference to me [TS]

02:05:47 ◼   ► particularly no I mean I think there's a there's a there are a bunch of people [TS]

02:05:51 ◼   ► you know it makes a difference if you're gay I think it but we don't live you [TS]

02:05:56 ◼   ► know that we're not all isolated from each other everything is related in [TS]

02:06:00 ◼   ► context and you know it and it does matter where we were 10 years ago and [TS]

02:06:06 ◼   ► fifteen years ago right it wasn't that long ago where it was controversial that [TS]

02:06:10 ◼   ► will grace had to gay characters as you know the the lead the vast over prime [TS]

02:06:16 ◼   ► time network sitcom right whereas now that you mean it wasn't that long ago [TS]

02:06:21 ◼   ► but it it wouldn't be an issue now at all right we're coming very fast but [TS]

02:06:28 ◼   ► we're not there yet [TS]

02:06:29 ◼   ► right and it really does make a difference that there is a that one of [TS]

02:06:35 ◼   ► the most powerful leaders in our country is out and proud of being gay right I [TS]

02:06:40 ◼   ► mean how many how many kids are there right now to teenagers today in this [TS]

02:06:45 ◼   ► country let alone other countries that are far behind us on this issue socially [TS]

02:06:50 ◼   ► who are gay and worried or even scared about telling their parents and coming [TS]

02:06:57 ◼   ► out to the friends you know you know heartbreaking and it's doing issue and [TS]

02:07:02 ◼   ► to have somebody like Tim Cook saying I am proud of it and consider it a gift [TS]

02:07:06 ◼   ► from God is its historic I really do think its historic yeah I can't think as [TS]

02:07:13 ◼   ► I can't think of any other executive Tony obviously follow Apple a closely [TS]

02:07:20 ◼   ► than any other companies I'm sure that somebody out there is is upset that I [TS]

02:07:25 ◼   ► don't didn't pay attention [TS]

02:07:26 ◼   ► there was a guy I don't know there was a guy was like a charge of the bank CEO of [TS]

02:07:31 ◼   ► a bank but he didn't come out until after he'd resign step down a retired or [TS]

02:07:35 ◼   ► something like that and said that it was really a day was you know as he was in [TS]

02:07:42 ◼   ► the ER visits happening now is professional sports right right it's my [TS]

02:07:51 ◼   ► just a few things that have traditionally at two places that have [TS]

02:07:55 ◼   ► traditionally been fairly conservative that are now being forced to open up [TS]

02:08:02 ◼   ► about what's really reality I also thought the other thing it was [TS]

02:08:07 ◼   ► remarkable not just that he didn't answer but I thought it was such a [TS]

02:08:10 ◼   ► well-written piece rear ended so short very success and I firmly believe I'm [TS]

02:08:17 ◼   ► sure that there you know he didn't write it without any help whatsoever editing [TS]

02:08:23 ◼   ► are you know and from within but I do think that it was his words you know in [TS]

02:08:28 ◼   ► the same way to me it was like like the Steve Jobs thought on music and Steve [TS]

02:08:33 ◼   ► Jobs was alone thoughts on flash where you could tell that it was jobs writing [TS]

02:08:38 ◼   ► it [TS]

02:08:39 ◼   ► yeah right that there was it wasn't just his name at the bottom of the letter [TS]

02:08:42 ◼   ► they could like like what we know of Steve Jobs and his obsessions in the way [TS]

02:08:46 ◼   ► things really came out in those to an early work on essays says yeah and I [TS]

02:08:54 ◼   ► can't help but think that this this piece is so very Tim Cook in in the way [TS]

02:09:02 ◼   ► that it's written there's a certain meticulous next to it and the tightness [TS]

02:09:06 ◼   ► of thought and anywhere where you might be tempted to sort of roll your eyes at [TS]

02:09:12 ◼   ► the sort of idealism of it I think it's genuine I don't think there's any reason [TS]

02:09:17 ◼   ► to I think it's genuinely how he feels that he truly feels like a social [TS]

02:09:22 ◼   ► obligation to our society as a whole [TS]

02:09:27 ◼   ► to to make things better in in this regard yeah do you think there's a [TS]

02:09:33 ◼   ► there's a reason now as opposed to earlier I i do I don't know it's it's it [TS]

02:09:44 ◼   ► seems like the Apple is it a better in a better position currently in terms of [TS]

02:09:50 ◼   ► public opinion because the stock prices doing better than it was like say your [TS]

02:09:53 ◼   ► ago I do I think that you know and who knows maybe he really only came to the [TS]

02:10:01 ◼   ► decision maybe it was something he was thinking about maybe doing for a year [TS]

02:10:04 ◼   ► two years and and finally thought maybe it just popped into his head maybe you [TS]

02:10:08 ◼   ► know something in September made him think you know I think I should come out [TS]

02:10:12 ◼   ► because this this who knows how how long it was planned and I don't know but in [TS]

02:10:17 ◼   ► hindsight it sure feels perfectly timed yes right like in some way it if he had [TS]

02:10:28 ◼   ► been out for fifteen years and had been you know had like a longtime partner you [TS]

02:10:38 ◼   ► know since before there was even legal gay marriage in California who [TS]

02:10:41 ◼   ► accompanied him to events and therefore you know had been out while he was COO [TS]

02:10:47 ◼   ► not CEO it certainly would have been his right and nobody would right-minded [TS]

02:10:53 ◼   ► wouldn't complain about it but it wouldn't have been as big a deal I don't [TS]

02:10:56 ◼   ► think you know somehow it feels right and the fact that it's a long as it's in [TS]

02:11:03 ◼   ► Steve Jobs dead three years as somehow it feels like the right amount of time [TS]

02:11:10 ◼   ► where the tumultuous of of him taking over past it seems like this year we [TS]

02:11:16 ◼   ► transition period is over even though Tim Cook spent a lot of time almost [TS]

02:11:24 ◼   ► effectively being see all jobs with sick right there were still you know jobs are [TS]

02:11:30 ◼   ► still there he still had input into how the products were designed and made and [TS]

02:11:35 ◼   ► to the point now where no one can reasonably say [TS]

02:11:38 ◼   ► know that you know the issue that's a good device but it was you know but jobs [TS]

02:11:42 ◼   ► had his fingers and that's owed him cocaine claimed it as its own right I [TS]

02:11:46 ◼   ► I've long thought that it even before Jobs was sick or what you know maybe he [TS]

02:11:53 ◼   ► technically was sick because he had the cancer [TS]

02:11:56 ◼   ► you know the whole period from when the cancer was first diagnosed until he died [TS]

02:12:01 ◼   ► a guess he was technically sick the whole time but even when he was feeling [TS]

02:12:05 ◼   ► well and they thought they had everything in remission I still think [TS]

02:12:08 ◼   ► that the the delegation of duties I what Tim Cook did Apple versus what Steve [TS]

02:12:12 ◼   ► Jobs did that Tim Cook was if you just described his duties to someone who [TS]

02:12:17 ◼   ► didn't know their titles you to where he's the CEO jobs is something else [TS]

02:12:23 ◼   ► maybe the president or something like that you know used to be a more calm you [TS]

02:12:26 ◼   ► know when we were kids a lot of companies had like a CEO and President [TS]

02:12:29 ◼   ► and CEO is more about making company-wide decisions and stuff like [TS]

02:12:36 ◼   ► that you know about the company and the bureaucracy of the company whereas jobs [TS]

02:12:41 ◼   ► could even when he was you know healthy was more solely focused on the products [TS]

02:12:47 ◼   ► and product development but even so I still determined to seem so perfect as [TS]

02:12:53 ◼   ► you said I think the transition period ended this year stocks stabilized [TS]

02:12:58 ◼   ► they've they've they haven't released it but they've at least unveiled a wholly [TS]

02:13:02 ◼   ► the watch which is wholly formed host Steve ghetto and its notes remains to be [TS]

02:13:10 ◼   ► seen how it's going to you know it isn't out yet but it certainly seems as though [TS]

02:13:14 ◼   ► there's no you know they're they're not unable to create a new product that gets [TS]

02:13:18 ◼   ► people talking that's over the stock is back and it just seems like people have [TS]

02:13:24 ◼   ► finally shut the hell up about [TS]

02:13:26 ◼   ► when happiness Steve we're still not entirely but it's we've passed it I [TS]

02:13:33 ◼   ► don't remember a year ago twenty the shower files but there are a lot of [TS]

02:13:38 ◼   ► people literally calling for Apple's board the fire Tim Cook you know fired [TS]

02:13:43 ◼   ► him cookies terrible you know when and where passing it is somehow feels right [TS]

02:13:50 ◼   ► yeah I'm looking forward to the addition of haunted empire has a new book out a [TS]

02:14:01 ◼   ► shorter shelf when I wrote about it I did I wrote I was like I really feel [TS]

02:14:07 ◼   ► like they knew it because it really does it part of what I thought was bad but [TS]

02:14:12 ◼   ► the book is it felt rushed it felt like the editing [TS]

02:14:15 ◼   ► if it could have been tighter and I can't help but think that they wanted to [TS]

02:14:19 ◼   ► rush out back in February because they thought it was going to turn around the [TS]

02:14:25 ◼   ► latest you know I think the writing was on the wall that the book was already [TS]

02:14:29 ◼   ► gonna get out quickly last thing I think I've had this in my notes as you see [TS]

02:14:42 ◼   ► this thing yesterday with the Twitter mission statement [TS]

02:14:46 ◼   ► well and i cant but I think about it as I compared to the Tim Cook essay on you [TS]

02:14:56 ◼   ► know coming out as gay and proud and how good the writing is I say this is side [TS]

02:15:01 ◼   ► maybe I value good writing more than most people because I'm a writer I care [TS]

02:15:05 ◼   ► about it but I can't help it has basic theory in general whether it's something [TS]

02:15:08 ◼   ► personal like Tim Cook's thing or whether it's something purely business [TS]

02:15:12 ◼   ► like like a strategy statement that good writing is the result of good thinking [TS]

02:15:18 ◼   ► and bad writing is usually the result of sloppy thinking incomplete thinking you [TS]

02:15:25 ◼   ► know that it [TS]

02:15:26 ◼   ► and here's the twitters strategy statement to reach the largest daily [TS]

02:15:33 ◼   ► audience in the world by connecting everyone to their world via our [TS]

02:15:38 ◼   ► information sharing and distribution platform products and be one of the top [TS]

02:15:42 ◼   ► revenue-generating Internet companies in the in the world and i cant believe more [TS]

02:15:50 ◼   ► people I didn't jump on it right away about complete that I was the first [TS]

02:15:53 ◼   ► person I saw to point out that that was not even close to hitting in the length [TS]

02:15:57 ◼   ► of a tweet it's two hundred and shouldn't your strategy statement and [TS]

02:16:06 ◼   ► especially if your Twitter it's so that they put it into a longer one of the [TS]

02:16:17 ◼   ► things called it's so bad it's really bad yeah I really find it worrisome I've [TS]

02:16:26 ◼   ► had a very worrisome as a platform that I really care about and someone will [TS]

02:16:31 ◼   ► love but that seems to be floundering at an executive level you know there's just [TS]

02:16:36 ◼   ► had some more executive shakeup site where there that they've had like three [TS]

02:16:41 ◼   ► had to product in the last like two years and the last one they just demoted [TS]

02:16:47 ◼   ► was only there six months it's it's very worrisome in this draft statement [TS]

02:16:52 ◼   ► doesn't make me feel any better about it it's like every other day about the net [TS]

02:16:58 ◼   ► neutrality we're like to meet President Obama's statement on it was very clearly [TS]

02:17:06 ◼   ► written and that there might be room to disagree there might be a reasonable [TS]

02:17:10 ◼   ► argument against it but I thought that his arguments in favor of it we're very [TS]

02:17:14 ◼   ► clearly expressed 1234 here's the reasons that we should make sure we keep [TS]

02:17:20 ◼   ► it keep this sort of not favoring one companies packets over another companies [TS]

02:17:25 ◼   ► packets on an internet keep it the way it is [TS]

02:17:29 ◼   ► which has been that all packets are treated equally [TS]

02:17:32 ◼   ► and the arguments on the other side from the cable companies and the phone [TS]

02:17:36 ◼   ► providers so obtuse and it's like you can read them and their their words [TS]

02:17:42 ◼   ► words but damned if I know what damned if I know what the what the meaning is [TS]

02:17:51 ◼   ► yeah other than the old Senate Live skit with frankenstein and caveman and [TS]

02:17:58 ◼   ► Frankenstein and yeah they sing Christmas carols [TS]

02:18:05 ◼   ► like kevin newman who is Frankenstein and he never said was bad I can't help [TS]

02:18:20 ◼   ► but think that the argument in the face against this net neutrality is more or [TS]

02:18:25 ◼   ► less a knee jerk frankenstein Ian regulation bad regulation is basically [TS]

02:18:31 ◼   ► right and I'm not one in favor of red tape and bureaucracy it's not you know I [TS]

02:18:37 ◼   ► really think you have to see government regulation as as a continuum you know a [TS]

02:18:42 ◼   ► scale from light graded our current not zero not not binary you know on her off [TS]

02:18:48 ◼   ► and these companies are regulated already would you know it's not like [TS]

02:18:52 ◼   ► Comcast doesn't face for some regulations it's the regulations kinda [TS]

02:18:56 ◼   ► favor consumers and and small companies start-ups are multi-billion dollar [TS]

02:19:04 ◼   ► stack the deck in favor of Verizon New made who's making eight billion dollars [TS]

02:19:09 ◼   ► because they need they need yeah and I can't I should the whole cynicism behind [TS]

02:19:17 ◼   ► that I can't even understand because so there is that the comment that tweet by [TS]

02:19:25 ◼   ► Ted Cruz yes senator from Texas read the texts you know [TS]

02:19:34 ◼   ► and he said it's the way the Obamacare for the internet rain rain right and [TS]

02:19:42 ◼   ► what's not have the internet operate at the speed of government right and I [TS]

02:19:47 ◼   ► tweeted something back to you know some basic I insulted him and his [TS]

02:19:52 ◼   ► intelligence and and Josh Saunders is the editor to correctly pointed out that [TS]

02:19:59 ◼   ► he's the guy graduated magna cum laude from Harvard or something yeah that's [TS]

02:20:07 ◼   ► right but you know he's actually not an idiot it's just the nasa like he's [TS]

02:20:18 ◼   ► protecting his buddies at the big cable industry's the aids is like a loud I [TS]

02:20:27 ◼   ► guess if I ever went to harvard is well with my grades and never really never [TS]

02:20:35 ◼   ► came up [TS]

02:20:36 ◼   ► yeah it's definitely not a dummy but he's definitely a cynical because he [TS]

02:20:40 ◼   ► knows how to communicate at this sort of caveman level of Internet government [TS]

02:20:47 ◼   ► regulation bad goes no further and you know it's the same people who think that [TS]

02:20:56 ◼   ► the government should cut back on handouts and not decrease the size of [TS]

02:21:01 ◼   ► their medicare check sure social security right that it's the other hand [TS]

02:21:06 ◼   ► out keep government out of my social security the government out of my system [TS]

02:21:11 ◼   ► like that you ask people if you think the government should stay out of social [TS]

02:21:14 ◼   ► security and you get like a 60 percent response rate this [TS]

02:21:17 ◼   ► yes keep them out of social security [TS]

02:21:20 ◼   ► but anyway I'm deeply worried about Twitter and their yeah yeah I did they [TS]

02:21:27 ◼   ► thinking about the future that does not make me very happy [TS]

02:21:31 ◼   ► yeah I can't help but think that the translation from whatever language that [TS]

02:21:35 ◼   ► is written in the English that the reach the largest daily audience in the world [TS]

02:21:38 ◼   ► by connecting everyone in the world [TS]

02:21:41 ◼   ► something something something they want to be more like Facebook is to me what [TS]

02:21:47 ◼   ► that means because Facebook is more popular that the target of this message [TS]

02:21:51 ◼   ► was not normal people it was two bankers investment people in you know people [TS]

02:21:55 ◼   ► who've kept Twitter's stock its I think it last I checked it slightly below [TS]

02:22:01 ◼   ► where the IPO last year so it hasn't created hasn't tanked but nobody has an [TS]

02:22:05 ◼   ► IPO and hopes that the stock is flat first year you know and so there is some [TS]

02:22:11 ◼   ► definite skepticism and that this is a dress that the people who have kept [TS]

02:22:15 ◼   ► their stock to press and in the meantime Facebook is going up and up and up and [TS]

02:22:19 ◼   ► to me the translation of this is we're going to somehow try to be more like [TS]

02:22:23 ◼   ► Facebook whereas to me the whole point of Twitter is that it's sort of an anti [TS]

02:22:27 ◼   ► Facebook and whether that means that inherently they're always going to be [TS]

02:22:31 ◼   ► smaller than Facebook financially and user-based wise so be it but at least be [TS]

02:22:35 ◼   ► true to yourself you know and the whole reason that you had any success at all [TS]

02:22:40 ◼   ► is that you're not then right there's nothing wrong sometimes a great idea [TS]

02:22:46 ◼   ► isn't going to be the most successful version of that idea that Twitter i [TS]

02:22:50 ◼   ► think is genius and his so well designed and so clever in so many ways but maybe [TS]

02:22:55 ◼   ► the ways that it's genius and simple inherently mean that it can never be as [TS]

02:23:00 ◼   ► big as Facebook and so be it can still be profitable [TS]

02:23:03 ◼   ► you know that to me is the the scary part of their strategy statement is that [TS]

02:23:10 ◼   ► to me is it somehow translates into we're going to wreck what makes twitter [TS]

02:23:14 ◼   ► twitter [TS]

02:23:16 ◼   ► well interests addresses nothing about what users liked about her know that [TS]

02:23:25 ◼   ► seems to be that that to me seems like the thing that you should be doing the [TS]

02:23:30 ◼   ► things you should be doing primarily in your mission statement and really only [TS]

02:23:34 ◼   ► in your mission statement and that's what makes them a mission statement and [TS]

02:23:40 ◼   ► make it makes it reach people and I worked at work in a financial services [TS]

02:23:44 ◼   ► company back when it was good but when the company was going around the company [TS]

02:23:53 ◼   ► was good I think it was because of your time by the whole industry 300 you know [TS]

02:23:58 ◼   ► announced the company they worked at their mission statement was improving [TS]

02:24:02 ◼   ► financial security for people that's not bad [TS]