The Talk Show

116: ‘Browser Pooped on the Wee-Wee Pad’, With Guest Joanna Stern


  so join at CERN you have a new puppy and it's a boy [TS]

  what's-his-name attaboy what's his name his name is browser yeah yeah as in not [TS]

  as in Safari Firefox or Chrome browser shout we show no platform platform [TS]

  agnostic in the family somehow browser makes for a good dog named but anyone at [TS]

  the individual ones would be a terrible I know we had so many things on the list [TS]

  and my wife said no to pretty much every other technique my head on the list I [TS]

  mean I think where he is a mistake I think we should have named Tim korte try [TS]

  to think which browser would make for the worst name ie he could be right [TS]

  chrome sounds cold are you crashed again he crashed yeah yeah so adorable he's [TS]

  really adorable I have turned into that person that I hate which I'm constantly [TS]

  posting photos of my puppy doing like the same thing that he did five minutes [TS]

  ago [TS]

  like right now he's sleeping under my desk and I am doing taking everything in [TS]

  me not to post another photo of him [TS]

  Firefox sounds like a cool dog named it does there have been a little bit like [TS]

  an identity crisis for my fiance Internet Explorer is the worst name for [TS]

  a dog and I'm gonna say Firefox was the best if you are if you were to name your [TS]

  dog after any individual browser yeah yeah I mean netscape would have been [TS]

  cute maybe you're watching yes one of the little details of wearing a watch is [TS]

  it now there's yet another thing to make sure his silent I know I'm going to [TS]

  silence it maybe I'm not you know what I'm not going to emphasise how many [TS]

  times it goes off that's right I actually find I guess we're just diving [TS]

  right into it I found even wrote about this that the watch works way more [TS]

  naturally to me was sound off I have sound off I would say in the I guess [TS]

  it's been two weeks I guess I was recording we've had it for two-plus [TS]

  weeks two weeks of daily use [TS]

  I think I've had sound off [TS]

  99 percent of the time actually it's funny cuz I usually like when I put it [TS]

  in do not disturb motor or silent mode I forgot about it and then when am i knoo [TS]

  have heard the sound in awhile i turn it back on the top deck yes I still getting [TS]

  the alerts [TS]

  it's the noises for them that that I don't have on ya you know what I haven't [TS]

  had that on that much either to be honest because if I'm in meetings or [TS]

  suffered I turned that off and it's not just about interrupting people to me [TS]

  it's I don't know somehow in my mind it just feels right fuels right that the [TS]

  watch is tapping me to say hey I've got something sound to me it's day I had [TS]

  that with my phone I don't know it does it it just doesn't seem right to me that [TS]

  my my watch is making noise the only sound I have on my phone is for my email [TS]

  message pretty much everything but I do think I'm on the fence about this I [TS]

  can't quite tell I kind of thing and this is one of the things that even two [TS]

  weeks and I can't quite make up my mind I kind of feel like I want the tactic [TS]

  engine to be a little bit stronger really just a little and it just seems [TS]

  like every once in awhile I miss one its MS-one I I had that too I definitely had [TS]

  that where I miss one but sometimes I feel like maybe it's cuz my family needs [TS]

  lube is a little bit loose my lip is loose sounds sounds really bad though [TS]

  you can it's just a it's the question of how comfortable it is you wanted it [TS]

  tighter you could just title yeah yeah I find it so comfortable I mean I cannot [TS]

  overestimate how comfortable is think it yeah I i it seems to imply did not get [TS]

  to spend time with that I wasn't sure what they were going to do in a few like [TS]

  which one are you marry again we're in the link bracelet again that 90% of the [TS]

  time that I have I think everybody got the white sport band I now have the [TS]

  ticket regardless I remember from your video to ask for that or they just gave [TS]

  it to us feedback [TS]

  I think they didn't they didn't even i wasnt even offered a choice of sportsmen [TS]

  they just gave me white yeah I asked for a black and then they didn't have the [TS]

  black when they came to New York and so they're gonna get me this swap out the [TS]

  black but actually that's a word or so yeah and I've heard from people I have [TS]

  not done the because were you and I are spoiled and we've already got review [TS]

  units I have not done that things have gone to a store and tried on the watches [TS]

  but I have heard from people who have who a bunch of them seem to say that the [TS]

  various port Mansfield subtly different from each other that black is even more [TS]

  subtle subtle than white not that they're radically different but that [TS]

  they're different enough that they feel confident that like with their eyes [TS]

  closed they can't tell which was which I have this problem that the sport ban Noi [TS]

  it's a small problems I didn't really talk about it matured you kind of see it [TS]

  and that video when I'm having a hard time putting it on you know that the [TS]

  small medium and in the in the same one and then at the medium large pan and the [TS]

  medium large band it's a little bit too big like the last one the last hole [TS]

  there's probably a professional work for that whole anyway [TS]

  on that one its it gets a little bit too big step to use the smaller band which [TS]

  makes it much harder to put on but if it's much nicer when I have it on and [TS]

  what I found you know I always change into that for for working out and that [TS]

  fit is so important when you're working out because I found you know I did a [TS]

  couple of workout classes with the Milanese went on a run and i'd really [TS]

  did not find as accurate Hartree tracking and then when I switch it for [TS]

  that sport bandits far more accurate the problem is it takes me forever to put it [TS]

  on because it's a little bit too small but when I finally get it on my wrist it [TS]

  fits perfect I read that interview and it was one of things I want talk about [TS]

  now I understand why you found it a little harder to get on so in other [TS]

  words when you put the smaller than just to step back up I know there's been a [TS]

  lot of confusion on this because I just from people who read the site and email [TS]

  me on Twitter tweeting me [TS]

  when it says that you get two straps with your Apple watch sport what they [TS]

  mean is you get two sizes it's an end that that's true whether you get 38 or [TS]

  40 to see you actually get three pieces the top piece is the same the one that [TS]

  actually has the slot that the other peace talks under and has the pin and [TS]

  then you get to bottom pieces the peace with the holes that you pop the pennant [TS]

  21 is smaller one is larger I see what your saying you're saying that the [TS]

  smaller of them once it's on a better feel but because there's only a little [TS]

  bit left of it to talk under right right I actually wonder like is that really [TS]

  meant for kids like who has that smaller wrists for their really when you when [TS]

  you get on like the closest and strap the small and rabbit it's on the other [TS]

  side of the room and I'm afraid I wake up the puppy if I don't get it it's [TS]

  really small yeah I assume I wonder if the bands are the same site they must be [TS]

  right the bands must be the same size whether you got the 38 of 42 no I think [TS]

  that the 42 probably bigger because the 42 now I think that yeah I think that [TS]

  the big one on the 42 is just humongous it is it's almost i i would i would [TS]

  guess that there are very few men on the planet for whom the larger of the 42 is [TS]

  still not be enough it is truly truly getting a belt on my wrist so the small [TS]

  one actually for me with the 42 and you know I'm not my restaurant particularly [TS]

  large I think there are some of the tallest I am they're probably a little [TS]

  bit on the small side but the smaller one I used the smaller one with the 42 [TS]

  and I'm only like three holes into it like I actually have 5527 homes so it's [TS]

  not even halfway on the smaller on its actually have their very [TS]

  the 42 their very large [TS]

  and I definitely definitely definitely think that the 38 small one is [TS]

  definitely meant to range down to kids sizes because we've done that thing [TS]

  where you know Apple has the years with you know measure your wrist in [TS]

  millimeters and here's the ranges and for Jonas whose only 11 and is a pretty [TS]

  slight for an eleven year old boy he easily is within the range I guess not [TS]

  even you know he might even have to despair is getting one he wants one [TS]

  I think there's some question over report cards right evading get one but [TS]

  he desperately wants one man I'm trying to think of what I used to work for when [TS]

  I was younger I think money it's our sports I i were true like sports stuff [TS]

  he has denied Shakib I was a huge tomboy so would be like if I could get a new [TS]

  one time really wanted to new basketball upgrade from a crappy rubber basketball [TS]

  to a nice synthetic leather right right that was always my problem playing [TS]

  basketball is if I ever needed a new one I wanted you know $45 synthetic leather [TS]

  Spalding and parents are you nuts this year's a $17 basketball be like that has [TS]

  made a Robert yeah and now it now the kids were crap watches that's cute he [TS]

  desperately wanted but I do wonder I wonder like that's really useful for [TS]

  like four kids I wonder what the use cases going to be for them [TS]

  well we can get into that but I am again it's speculative and it's certainly [TS]

  enters you know clearly socioeconomic implications of the idea of [TS]

  at a school where a bunch of the kids have $400 apple launches but in that [TS]

  world I think that the communication stuff is going to be huge right because [TS]

  they have a long I think it's how would you say [TS]

  1111 yeah I mean you're not in use they have all these kitty like smart watches [TS]

  I guess I guess that's what they're called but you know they're sort of the [TS]

  trackers that have the built-in GPS and stuff like that i mean it seems like [TS]

  that's probably not the right age range for something like this and in terms of [TS]

  communication obviously would be great for parents are keeping tabs on their [TS]

  kids making sure they see Mike alerts or something like that but I don't know if [TS]

  it expands into that tracking texting yeah I know more so than having a phone [TS]

  but that's you know and he's in 5th Grade I can't even imagine what it's [TS]

  like with the girls who are clearly more advanced socially than the boys right [TS]

  but even with his friends there's the texting has really taken off this year [TS]

  like 5th grade seems to be where the boys in his class really taken off with [TS]

  texting and I don't even pay attention to it my wife does just to make sure [TS]

  it's nothing inappropriate or whatever but it just seems inscrutable it's like [TS]

  gibberish [TS]

  it's like a foreign language well that without brings me to the best part of [TS]

  your review your view is great but I have to say the best part of your [TS]

  viewers your your teen romance at the end which is also the part that got the [TS]

  most like you are you freakin serious this is a bunch of crap you know you can [TS]

  see you can either for Syria the type of person who can see that scenario or not [TS]

  and the people who cannot see it [TS]

  think that you know that I know I don't drink too much or as a whiner everyone I [TS]

  wrote that part but I meant it seriously I really did I mean I think if if [TS]

  anything I mean do you think years ago we could have foreseen US communicating [TS]

  at all with emoji no I mean like that i mean as crazy as as some of those graphs [TS]

  and as crazy as some of these emoticons that they put on here and as much as I [TS]

  sort of made fun of them a little bit you just really don't know and like I [TS]

  think it would have sounded crazy twists a number of years ago that like we would [TS]

  all be texting in emojis aren't sometimes complete sentences in them and [TS]

  people understand that like a bad idea is is kind of crazy and I certainly [TS]

  think that visual way of communicating with each other whether it's photos are [TS]

  creepy my hands or creepy heart rates could certainly be WAY bigger than we [TS]

  actually think it might be but I think you were totally right to say that it [TS]

  might appeal to a younger demographic or it just might turn into something that [TS]

  like becomes this language amongst a different sort of generation maybe maybe [TS]

  just shows how old ya know exactly the sort of thing I was trying to get out [TS]

  and I believe it so this is a true story so my wife and I grew up together we [TS]

  were literally in the same kindergarten class and in high school at one point [TS]

  where we will we would one way we would marlys for with each other as we just [TS]

  had a system where we had the same math classes and we had a system where I [TS]

  would have liked but it was the type of type of calculator that someone in AP [TS]

  Calculus in nineteen eighty nine or ninety would have had a bunch of buttons [TS]

  and had memory and had a way to like actually put my characters in there so [TS]

  we had like this complicated system of letters and numbers to make letter you [TS]

  know to make notes and it was incredibly cryptic but then we would just swap [TS]

  calculators and we'd of Notre each other and it was super it wasn't you couldn't [TS]

  actually type it didn't have a disease that you had to skip certain but it felt [TS]

  like it was for proof because anybody teacher taught us all look like as we [TS]

  were swapping calculators and even if they saw what was on the screen they [TS]

  wouldn't be able to understand it and at grade where you have to upgrade my god [TS]

  that's amazing we talked about you know if we are actually worth it [TS]

  hadn't thought about it in years but we talked about in the context of Apple [TS]

  watch and you know what we would have done if we had Apple watches in 11th [TS]

  Grade right right I mean it's also it's that sort of 633 let me see here oh yes [TS]

  my editor trying to get me on the phone right now sorry I'm you deposit podcast [TS]

  right now is fine now I don't know if you did before [TS]

  weight without me that was that was my mind silent because I have my headphones [TS]

  on too so if I'm hearing them i think im hearing in through the side i think is [TS]

  very few people can get a real idea of how many alerts I get back to you right [TS]

  that's an amazing story I mean yeah I think it's like there's also this this [TS]

  idea like sort of slightly communicating with someone when nobody else knows [TS]

  right and so like you were describing the calculator or someone who's in a [TS]

  movie theater or something like that it could be it could certainly be [TS]

  interesting I think yeah I mean I i I made some sarcastic comments about their [TS]

  the certain emojis but they're they're definitely fun there is a there's a [TS]

  bootstrapping issue which ended whether it's teenagers or whatever [TS]

  which is that these the most innovative ways to communicate the drawings that [TS]

  taps the heart beats only watch to watch and so the bootstrapping issue is it [TS]

  only works if the person you want to send these to also has watch and it's [TS]

  weird and so a bunch of people wrote to me after my review came up and they said [TS]

  you know for this particular case I'm surprised Appleton give you two so that [TS]

  you can have your wife or one and then you could try these things out and I [TS]

  think so how did you try those things and the answer is so we like we're [TS]

  sending taps and stuff to people at Apple Apple PR people and and product [TS]

  marketing people [TS]

  I did not I will say this I found it weird enough that I didn't want to send [TS]

  my heart beat anybody does it felt I don't know it just was like a little or [TS]

  no [TS]

  yeah yeah I mean I've been sending my heart rated them a heartbeat Nui Patel [TS]

  for two weeks now and I think it's really brought us closer together that [TS]

  should have in mind and that's what I should have done yeah I think we are [TS]

  really gotten to know each other on another level so I sent to happen to you [TS]

  and you ignored me to do not get them did you miss my tabs like the greatest [TS]

  deaths now if I just get out of my faith taps I don't think I knew they were from [TS]

  maybe they came from my Google phone number maybe I do like what's your area [TS]

  code 267 [TS]

  that yeah that's one thing about them the other thing about all three of the [TS]

  watch specific communications the doodles the taps the heartbeat is they [TS]

  are ephemeral and write you so in others there is no record of nowhere to go back [TS]

  and replay them so there's a sort of snapchat enos ephemeral quality to them [TS]

  there is no record of them you know so well they show up in your notifications [TS]

  like you can go access them after you play it it's gone it's gone but I don't [TS]

  even think I got that from ya did you do don't are you just just sent you some [TS]

  time that's right now [TS]

  ataxia I don't I don't think I even have your cell phone number I guess you don't [TS]

  need it [TS]

  yeah he died cloud yes my digital crown really how you know and that seen in the [TS]

  video and I got some 230 tapped tapped you have to go through taps taps yeah [TS]

  that's me Mr Blue taps I'm an ad not gonna block I'm gonna add [TS]

  can you really risk realistically doodle on this screen other than like high and [TS]

  our hard to say what I would've done if I was a teenager but ya see that's funny [TS]

  those who do I guess I didn't have your phone number but now they're sending it [TS]

  as right and there is Joanna sent me a green hi yeah I should and I gotta get [TS]

  here people really appreciate this conversation lol I don't know I think [TS]

  that it's it's I don't know what it is that it is well aware podcast but I feel [TS]

  like it's very hard to its hard to it's really hard to write about and maybe [TS]

  it's easier to talk about it if you're quite enough maybe everyone can hear my [TS]

  heartbeat right now but I i feel were close enough [TS]

  John that I could send you my heart beat right now sure well I got if you feel [TS]

  that way we'll see if you feel that way to return that and I will understand if [TS]

  you don't but I want really [TS]

  I guess you know I gave see this is where I sort of I still get mixed up I [TS]

  gave it a four-step wanna meet ya know I mean it's not it's it's I have had a [TS]

  hard time getting it to catch my heartbeat when I do that it's not like I [TS]

  also have the smaller screen some putting two fingers on the screen which [TS]

  basically takes up the whole screen he did everybody he sent me his heartbeat [TS]

  can hear it I think it's hard to hear well we had to like what we filmed a [TS]

  video based on the mic and it actually done it but I can tell you that to me is [TS]

  is one that's gonna work I think that people beating people are going to use [TS]

  it [TS]

  yeah probably it's just a way of saying I am thinking about you right now [TS]

  certainly if it's if it's someone close to you but I think I think I think [TS]

  there's something that I didn't get to talk about my review and something I've [TS]

  been thinking about like as more and more people where the use the iPhone [TS]

  right like the iPhone became a really powerful tool as more and more people [TS]

  got that right not only cause more apps came out but even just in terms of [TS]

  communicating a message was one thing I think like to me I messages such a huge [TS]

  part of my life even though I don't really think about it but it's part of [TS]

  the thing that sort of Italian communicate with everyone all day long [TS]

  my colleagues my friends my family and the same sort of thing with the watch [TS]

  right like it more and more people have this there might be going to become [TS]

  these ways we can connect to those other people that have them and actually one [TS]

  thing I've been thinking about it I wrote this piece a couple I like a year [TS]

  ago a year ago now about business cards and like I want there to be some easy [TS]

  way where if you see another person with an Apple watch you can easily sort of [TS]

  transmit information or their contact information like a handshake you know [TS]

  what I've been saying about this for years ever since the iPhone came out one [TS]

  of the weird things about the iPhone is that there's nothing like that [TS]

  and the Newton had and Anna people mark the news but the Newton had a thing or [TS]

  if you met somebody else who had a Newton all you had to do is point your [TS]

  ir ports at each other and there was like two taps away and you'd exchange [TS]

  contact cards and it was you know say what you want about the new it was one [TS]

  of the things that work great and it seemed like something I love the idea [TS]

  pointing your I R person seemed like something you should be able to do and [TS]

  you could do it worked and yet here we are in in 2015 you still can't do it [TS]

  with even if you both have iPhones let alone now I did do it where it would [TS]

  work with anybody and that was one of things I i said about the iPhone 6 when [TS]

  it came out with NFC was ok it's great for payments but I kinda wish there were [TS]

  more things you could do when you put this in contact with another phone [TS]

  obviously Android's done some things with you know there being no one really [TS]

  uses bad but it seems like you know especially with Apple products and items [TS]

  like there is this sort of community around using the same thing it just [TS]

  seems like I would love it if I could shake someone's hand and we exchanged [TS]

  contact info I'd also like to see so much potential in the social realm for [TS]

  this like as much as I see it as being a social norm disruptor and have a lot of [TS]

  thoughts about that but I think like for me I also want to ask that like I go to [TS]

  a party or go to a meeting and it tells me who that person is again a lot of [TS]

  privacy concerns about that but like I would love it if I'm at CES serb some [TS]

  conference in some income that's why it's so great to see you that persons [TS]

  wearing an apple watch I'm wearing a nap or watch couldn't it say oh yeah that's [TS]

  right it seems I mean there's a lot of privacy concerns but just like one thing [TS]

  that I could really use in my life [TS]

  yeah I don't know there could be some kind of way where it would be sort of [TS]

  like airdrop where with airdrop you can say only or you can say everyone and [TS]

  then if you were in a situation like you know like a cocktail party or some kind [TS]

  of your you know you're at a conference or or a post them vent press thing [TS]

  your mingling but you know you wanna meet people you could set you could [TS]

  change it to you know open to anybody and then turn it off or even they could [TS]

  even be like the sort of thing where it would it would say like hey for how long [TS]

  like maybe for the next two hours and then go back to being contacts only [TS]

  seems like you know like airdrop shows how you can kind of salt that sort of [TS]

  issue though where ya you know you may not want to be open to the general [TS]

  public all the time but temporarily might want to be actually at the Apple [TS]

  watch launch of an enlarged yet but I forgot his name somebody somebody [TS]

  air-dropped me a photo of them playing with the new MacBook and it just like [TS]

  showed up cuz I guess I had my thing on everyone and I wouldn't think about it I [TS]

  accepted it like it's like someone so once they are drop you a photo and [TS]

  accepted it and it was fun I mean some ways I could see like I didn't really [TS]

  know what I was gonna get before it opened its so yeah but it's definitely [TS]

  my deep thoughts on that [TS]

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  Taiwan Japan I mean it looks like okay just figured out what my mom for [TS]

  Mother's Day I told my mom that after we got married this year that pretty much [TS]

  for the next ten years she was gonna get photos from the wedding [TS]

  here's another year here's another version of the photo that you had last [TS]

  year it is a surefire mothers day gift for any it really is so this is like a [TS]

  great way it's like here's the photo he gave you for your birthday a couple [TS]

  months ago but now look at Sunglass they actually want to get one for my office I [TS]

  really really pretty so one of the things that struck me about your review [TS]

  so talking about the watch something that but something that I couldn't test [TS]

  I know I just because I don't know but how accurate some of the heart beat like [TS]

  the heartbeat stuff is and I thought that was really interesting because you [TS]

  have a dedicated heartbeat monitor that you just wrap it around your chest and [TS]

  then you can wear when you work out and and you've done tests before for the [TS]

  journal where you you but what was your conclusion of the closest thing you've [TS]

  seemed to like the accuracy of an EKG yes so couple months ago I did this huge [TS]

  project and I'm actually like so happy I did it at the time no one really cared [TS]

  but but now that it was it was actually really looking back on it was something [TS]

  I'm really happy we did I looked at it was when the Microsoft ban came out [TS]

  bases his band had just come out and it just like I kept getting these readings [TS]

  are like yeah I am certainly don't think my heart rate is at a hundred and twenty [TS]

  right now is like walking to work and actually have some places like maybe [TS]

  there's something wrong with my heart so anyway i I had started testing these and [TS]

  so I went to my my general practitioner who actually happens to also be a [TS]

  cardiologist and she did a whole full heart rate work hard work up and turns [TS]

  out I'm perfectly fine which is very very good to know and she also we also [TS]

  did an EKG where you run on the treadmill and have all these electrodes [TS]

  that's the right term [TS]

  hooked up to your chest and your back and yeah I think that sounds about right [TS]

  anyway so she she had that right into that was sort of the constant and I then [TS]

  also used at the same time compared the Microsoft banned the basis of and apolar [TS]

  Chester a choice [TS]

  chest strap monitor and I believe the Fitbit was the other one that I do you [TS]

  should pull up this article and you know found that one of the things we found [TS]

  across all of them was that just it took them quite a while to catch up to what [TS]

  my heart rate actually was and so that was kind of the problem that I was [TS]

  seeing what i do these irregularities know if it would say 120 beats per [TS]

  minute that might have been where I was actually like 10 minutes ago or 20 like [TS]

  you know it just wasn't catching up in real time and so really I you know sort [TS]

  of called out these companies are saying this is not an acceptable like we [TS]

  shouldn't be you should be surfacing information to people that just isn't [TS]

  right and so the thing that did come the closest to the EKG was a polar chest [TS]

  wrap monitor the actual one right now it's the hd7 which works with their [TS]

  polar lipid band and so that was like really really really in line with what I [TS]

  was seen with the achy ekgs and so when I was testing the Apple watch I compared [TS]

  the Apple watch during a cycling class and during a few runs to that same [TS]

  bowler chest strap monitor and found that during during those workouts it was [TS]

  actually really in line it was only a couple beats off you know usually in the [TS]

  range of 5 from the polar and so that was that was really impressive to me at [TS]

  the big thing that Apple since they're doing right is there they've got a [TS]

  really good fit with the sport band on they also say their algorithms are sort [TS]

  of working to flush out things that might not be right and so that you know [TS]

  also when you're working out it's constantly taking the heart rate versus [TS]

  when you're not working out its taking it every 10 minutes so I definitely did [TS]

  notice attempts at look down and see you know glances and see ok my heart rate [TS]

  like for instance right now says 61 beats per minute that's probably seems [TS]

  about right [TS]

  my resting heart rates around 55 beats per minute [TS]

  and you know now it's measuring so it could be off and also you know talking [TS]

  quickly now so it could be higher but yeah i mean that was something I wanted [TS]

  to make sure was was right and I think Apple did a really good job of getting [TS]

  that aspect right i think im in bad shape because mind usually around [TS]

  seventy which seems high for a resting pulse it so I think that's ok I mean I'm [TS]

  I'm fluctuates throughout the day on normal from sort of being 5280 something [TS]

  I just checked it depends on your nerves depends on if you walked around depend [TS]

  on a lot of 6968 just went down relaxing a relaxing yeah I mean I need that was a [TS]

  big thing for me going into this because I have been looking for a device that I [TS]

  can wear all day long and also work out where and so yes you've got a switch [TS]

  this band which is a little bit annoying especially given what I talked about [TS]

  with my sport band thing but that's i mean I can't say that's going to affect [TS]

  too many people you know Apple seems to get around in my big thing with the with [TS]

  it is just not doing enough with that data yet and that's I think we're the [TS]

  potential of the platform as we can go there I think we should talk about it [TS]

  cause it's to me this is the part that I explored the least in my review because [TS]

  I'm not into fitness and combined with that even just little things like with [TS]

  this stupid I think I've got until I see interest until yesterday I was [TS]

  restricted from any kind of vigorous workout likes all I could do was allowed [TS]

  to do is walk which is one of the activities you can do and I do realize [TS]

  you know whether you're older or or you know you have other conditions may be [TS]

  you know outdoor walk is the most vigorous thing you can do so it's good [TS]

  that it's on the watch but it really felt like as a reviewer I was very low [TS]

  credit to it as it has device by going pro people got right now but I know [TS]

  there's more I could have done i'm looking yeah yeah I do feel I feel like [TS]

  it's not just lip service from Apple that they took it seriously as a fitness [TS]

  device like I feel like them billing it as [TS]

  as a full one-third of their primary use cases for it they're totally serious [TS]

  about it but I couldn't be more serious that it's not just a watch that happens [TS]

  to do some of the fitness stuff haphazardly like they are dead serious [TS]

  about common you know even if the main thing you're looking for is a fitness [TS]

  tracking device Apple watch is the thing that you should get something you should [TS]

  consider yeah and I and I that's something I shared my review you know I [TS]

  felt when I started tackling this device like to make it your own and it is very [TS]

  confusing to me out a lot of points there's so much going on and one of the [TS]

  things I knew I wanted to be with a fitness tracker both sort of like [TS]

  everyday fitness tracker throughout my day but also for these exercise classes [TS]

  that I do a couple of times a week and it got really into so like I really [TS]

  wanted a road tested in those and I felt like this things great and that's that's [TS]

  ultimately why I'm gonna buy the sport because I actually began yesterday went [TS]

  to another class and just loved having it on left having sort of a baseline and [TS]

  knowing now as I collect more data where I'm sort of working harder not hard and [TS]

  that's that's again about the potential I think there's a lot Apple could really [TS]

  do with that information [TS]

  the activity apt to me seems like a very very basic Jan one product and whether [TS]

  Apple decides to use that data or some other third-party there's a lot of [TS]

  potential there [TS]

  the joys of urban living [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah I live in a street where the ambulances go by all the time so [TS]

  that talk shows usually riddled with ambulances one of the new york we have [TS]

  not been able to open the windows here for months and so the windows open and [TS]

  I'm not closing it but yeah it's a may 18 yeah it's happy to say can actually [TS]

  live a decent life right now in New York without it being freezing cold we open [TS]

  our windows the temperature where like people in california would be like [TS]

  wearing coats and write it up I think some of the interesting stuff that Apple [TS]

  has done so I know the biggest knock against this the first Apple watch is [TS]

  the lack of door from a fitness perspective is the lack of GPS people [TS]

  who run want GPS tracking people who cycle definitely want GPS tracking and I [TS]

  have friends who are serious about both things and they use you know whatever [TS]

  devices they do use they do things where they get like a map that shows them [TS]

  exactly where they went it was that important to them and anything that [TS]

  doesn't GPS isn't gonna replace what they've already got and that means that [TS]

  they're stuck still carrying their iPhone around with them in if you're [TS]

  already carry your iPhone around for your cycling therefore you're running [TS]

  then what's the point of even having to watch it doesn't do well there's some [TS]

  little things right it's gonna give you a much its gonna give you a heartbeat [TS]

  heartbeat monitoring that you don't get from the phone but that's definitely not [TS]

  but they've tried to do the way they've explained and I don't know how accurate [TS]

  is but if you go for a run with your phone a couple times yet and it knows [TS]

  how tall you are you've entered in your height and weight it kind of gets a [TS]

  sense of your stride you do work i said im gonna go for a run and you do it with [TS]

  your phone and it has GPS then you can start doing it without your phone and it [TS]

  extrapolates it knows well we know what you know his stride is holly is how much [TS]

  he weighs and so it makes some guesses it still not going to give you a map [TS]

  without GPS but it's gonna give you a much better sense of the distance gone [TS]

  yeah and I found that to be pretty accurate after I'd gone for like last [TS]

  in the week of testing this thing all the craziness I like this basically [TS]

  going for like two runs a day plus a spinning class which was just insane and [TS]

  I found one of the runs I did you know I just sort of knew that how long the the [TS]

  pathways and so when I just took the watch on the Rhine experience I have [TS]

  talked about now in a number of podcasts and talked about on interview just took [TS]

  the watch her on it pretty much very it was very very close to saying that it [TS]

  was a two mile run which I knew it pretty much was and you know i just i I [TS]

  thought that experience was great because I had just left with the watch I [TS]

  i preloaded the watch with a play list which was a little bit of a clunky [TS]

  experience but I got it to work I have Bluetooth Bluetooth headset pared to it [TS]

  and then I stopped at Whole Foods bought a coffee and water and ran home which [TS]

  was like just this really freeing experience because I actually hate [TS]

  having my phone with me when I run yeah I mean I've been set up the pieces like [TS]

  what I think that Apple much can disrupt like working out as if like what the [TS]

  iPad did the iPod dead when we had to run with disc now you know like it was [TS]

  used after a run with these clunky things and yes it's crazy like oh yeah [TS]

  would complain about a phone we have to hold up on our arm but it is it's it's [TS]

  annoying so yeah I was like a great extent that a discman might be the last [TS]

  portable Sony product that i've ever bod I think and I remember being so happy [TS]

  with it because it didn't skip that Sony had done this remarkable engineering [TS]

  that you could go running with the same a spinning CD and it didn't skip which [TS]

  was amazing it at those crazy plastic things on the side you'd like in close [TS]

  in five guys remember reading about it is this is pretty daring fireball way [TS]

  pretty damn in this must be late nineties or something but remember [TS]

  reading about how they did it and it was pretty close a little bit of buffering [TS]

  and a little bit of like shock absorption you know to keep the phone [TS]

  but it was a crazy achievement but yeah I mean even even so even though it [TS]

  didn't skip it was a crazy large device to have to to be saddled with while [TS]

  while going for a run right yeah yeah I mean [TS]

  the phone feels that way I mean yeah it's like that sound like a first world [TS]

  problems for sure but it's just nice to have both hands and Mike I mean also is [TS]

  the first time I really started running with the Bluetooth headset that actually [TS]

  stuck in my ears and using this these beats they called power be the same ones [TS]

  they have a red red cable [TS]

  yeah I mean I feel I feel like a little bit of a douchebag winning run with them [TS]

  but you always look a eye mean there's no way to look at this is nothing you [TS]

  can do that to not look stupid you know everybody's wearing tight clothes some [TS]

  years now I got the same beats only thing I don't like about him is the [TS]

  latency in there but I did the research beforehand and everybody says they all [TS]

  have latency yeah exactly I mean like the battery life is really good on them [TS]

  and charger for like a week and a half now I mean I guess granted I've only 55 [TS]

  I don't know it's a fifth 1 I've heard yeah I mean some I want my frustrations [TS]

  with notifications is that if I was using mail on my computer I wouldn't be [TS]

  getting as many right because if i'm open if I have mail open on my iPhone [TS]

  and i'm looking at emails I don't get them on my phone on my watch at least [TS]

  they don't they fade to the background you know on my laptop I use Outlook and [TS]

  they don't write because it looked up to the the right I message whatever I do [TS]

  think it works I think that the running with the you know I'm going for walks [TS]

  without the phone and with the Bluetooth and it's free and it's definitely friend [TS]

  and and in addition to that and again this is nothing to do with the watch in [TS]

  particular but it just happened to you know is the thing that was I have got it [TS]

  tested I have to have Bluetooth earbuds so I'll buy some finally break down and [TS]

  buy some it would be just as true if I didn't have to watch but it is [TS]

  it is as free as expected not to have a cable connecting me to from eight years [TS]

  and while working out it's you know a running or whatever it's it's definitely [TS]

  it feels like the future they gotta get that somehow somebody's got to invent [TS]

  something to get the lady down yeah I mean I think the GPS thing not having [TS]

  and watching Microsoft band has GPS and that's what kills the battery already [TS]

  the battery life is it takes a big hit when you're working out with this thing [TS]

  on [TS]

  to me it's exactly like analogous to the original iPhone not having 3G which was [TS]

  you know clearly a lot of the the top-flight phones in 2007 were all [TS]

  coming out with 3G and the iPhone didn't an Apple ID is one of the cases where [TS]

  they worry they just said why they said well you know it would kill the battery [TS]

  you know we we don't he couldn't we don't you know we don't have a way to to [TS]

  do it in a way that sustains the battery life we were hoping for ya so clearly [TS]

  it's gonna come i mean i i would say of all the things people are thinking about [TS]

  for future watch provisions GPS I think it's a sure thing but it's just a [TS]

  question right yeah so you had here's another thing from your review that was [TS]

  interesting to me is that on the days that you exercised their watches battery [TS]

  died yeah I thought that was interesting I didn't have a single day where the [TS]

  watches battery died but I have not been working out in anyway right so I tried [TS]

  to divide up the testing because I knew the last couple of days would be really [TS]

  not a good indicator of normal life because I'd be shooting video with it so [TS]

  much but the first the first three days I i basically made it to the end of the [TS]

  day you know within its a 15% market now is fine by the time I went to bed last [TS]

  night a day I did two workouts and certainly had it was it was pretty much [TS]

  in power reserve mode by 8 p.m. [TS]

  and one of the things I did during my cycling workout with aidid keep the [TS]

  screen on for quite a bit of time and so that it really took a hit on it the [TS]

  reason I did that was one of the things you talked about in your review [TS]

  no because my my arms are on the cycling bike and i cant like doing a glance at [TS]

  it doesn't turn the screen on I basically kept the screen on for most of [TS]

  the time I guess I was most of the time they're tapping it or it was just [TS]

  staying on because it knew it was doing something but yes I like to have liked [TS]

  having an eye on it to see sort of the accuracy of it six yet here's my battery [TS]

  life from the first few days Tuesday didn't apply because that was when I [TS]

  swapped had to swap the first one they gave me out with the second one because [TS]

  the tactic and general isn't working so it doesn't count as I finish finish the [TS]

  day with like 70% but I gotta watch it like 3 o'clock Wednesday 42 Thursday [TS]

  five but I was up until four in the morning and that was a day that I had [TS]

  really really like to spend the whole day playing with the watch and I never [TS]

  put it in the power reserve mode I don't think I don't know if you can set it to [TS]

  do it automatically or not but the way it's by the fault is when it gets to 10% [TS]

  it gives you a tap and a scary warning and it says you're down you know your [TS]

  battery is almost out you wanna go to power reserve and I said no and it still [TS]

  only got 25 when I went to sleep Friday it was over 50% Saturday 37% sunday [TS]

  which was Easter which I say I spent with family but I used it a lot I was [TS]

  testing it so down to 27% oh I think he's driving directions on Sunday to all [TS]

  the brightness that you keep it at I haven't change the brightness so it's at [TS]

  the defaults yeah yeah I mean now here's the big do you have a thirty eight [TS]

  millimeter one and I have a forty-two man apple on their website [TS]

  even says that they they're listed battery life is for the 38th and then [TS]

  they say in small print at the bottom of the page that the 42 she gets longer [TS]

  battery for the obvious reasons really I had not even heard that before that's [TS]

  crazy yeah you know jeff Wyler who also reviewed journal I think he also said [TS]

  the same you know last through the day but yeah i four most days from me that [TS]

  that week of testing I was down for the count around 11 by bedtime 11:30 and [TS]

  then the days that I had done some working out it had died much earlier and [TS]

  you know again that like during that workout period which for me usually it's [TS]

  a 45 minute class which is looking at the heart rate all the time and I had [TS]

  the screen mostly on so if you go to Apple watches website go to technology [TS]

  then it says so we gave it a battery that lasts up to 18 hours and then [TS]

  there's a foot so here's the foot testing conducted by Apple in March 2015 [TS]

  using preproduction Apple watchin software paired with an iPhone using [TS]

  preproduction software I think what they mean is it was using [TS]

  iOS 8.3 the phone battery life varies by use and configuration actual results [TS]

  will vary actually they are saying about the 42 here I read that somewhere [TS]

  somewhere I read that the 42 get longer battery life that makes sense I think [TS]

  because I think the battery is bigger compared to the thirty eight then the [TS]

  screen is bigger in terms of needing to light up the screen [TS]

  yeah I mean even though I even on their site they say you know six point five [TS]

  hours for work out [TS]

  yeah I mean it's not abnormal that if you work out more napping all those [TS]

  sensors it's gonna take a hit but in short I found that concerned pre-release [TS]

  concerns that the thing wasn't gonna get through the day was not an issue [TS]

  yes but on the other hand a lot of people have been asked me does your [TS]

  phone [TS]

  worst battery life and I think I didn't do any kind of testing on that and I was [TS]

  also complain with periscope so much periscope is it a battery killer Mike [TS]

  anecdotally though I kind of feel like my iPhone has been getting worse battery [TS]

  life but I'm still getting through the day without charging the I never really [TS]

  get through the day without charging I talked on the phone a lot so I'm not a [TS]

  good person to ask you are you in Manhattan most weekdays yeah so there [TS]

  you go i mean and I've been in New York a couple times the last couple weeks and [TS]

  that the last week or two as I was in New York to get the phone I mean to get [TS]

  the white itself and then I was there over the weekend to see Yankees game so [TS]

  I've been on our end in Manhattan is notoriously bad for your battery under [TS]

  phone just because you have such a hard time getting a signal buildings block it [TS]

  right and I'm there were like I found on a subway I'm usually like constantly [TS]

  looking for those little douchey yeah okay right here right here [TS]

  Twitter right exactly so yeah I talked on the phone a lot that's why i say like [TS]

  I never make it through a whole day for charge because if I work from home on [TS]

  the phone all the time not the best asked yes so it's but you know I think [TS]

  if anything though that most people can can expect to get through the day with [TS]

  their Apple watch yeah absolutely absolutely i mean and especially like [TS]

  there's so much you can do to make it go longer but it's actually really good [TS]

  experiment should try like how long you turning down the brightness turning on a [TS]

  lot off of a couple of notifications how long you could go with that I bet you [TS]

  could get into you know I second full day maybe I don't know it's you know but [TS]

  at least it today how how easy it is to have to charge it every night I thought [TS]

  about this i mean the question for me is like what would I what would it if it [TS]

  was really serving a purpose at night for me I think would be the big [TS]

  annoyance like if I really thought all this was great for sleep tracking or I [TS]

  really locked out wit woke me up in the morning with a gentle vibration on my [TS]

  wrist or something like that but it doesn't do those things so I don't mind [TS]

  taking it off I mean is it annoying to have another charger yes between this [TS]

  and the MacBook that I was reviewing its like enough with the Chargers already a [TS]

  huge pain to me it I feel like I almost cheated cuz when I when I swapped out my [TS]

  the first one that didn't work for the second one just say you want to keep the [TS]

  other charger you can keep the charger so I charger classic so I have and I [TS]

  just left it in my bag and I you know because I was testing it it's on my mind [TS]

  but so when I went to to New York for the weekend again [TS]

  I didn't have to even think about getting it from my bedroom and packing [TS]

  it right but I do think most people would want to I would want to I'd want [TS]

  one that I keep in my bed and I would want one that I keep in my travel bag so [TS]

  that I don't have to remember like I just keep lightning Chargers in my [TS]

  travel bag so I never ever have to worry that when I leave the house for a trip [TS]

  that I remember to pack charger for my phone and I feel like they don't want [TS]

  the same thing for the watch and the other thing I've been thinking about is [TS]

  it comes with a little the little square 5 volt AC adapter that the phone comes [TS]

  with it seems to charge like a mostly empty watch in about an hour and a half [TS]

  to get a full charge I haven't really time did like from a completely dead [TS]

  right did let me pull up my notes on that I it took me about two hours to [TS]

  pull out my first day at a time that is about two hours that was from completely [TS]

  dead [TS]

  basically completely dead like like power reserve actually that day was [TS]

  completely dead [TS]

  well the thing that occurred to me though is that you have to have an [TS]

  iPhone if you use Apple watch their very exclusive about it it's at the you know [TS]

  who knows [TS]

  years from now what you'll be able to do just with a watch but for now it is it [TS]

  not useless it keeps the time and you can use Apple pay without the the phone [TS]

  being in Bluetooth range but most of the south are certainly all the [TS]

  notifications anything that incoming has to come from an internet connection from [TS]

  your parent iPhone so if you're going to go somewhere with your watch you have to [TS]

  have your iPhone with you so I'm kind of I kind of wish the day and shipped it [TS]

  was some kind of charger that two USB ports so that you would only need one [TS]

  thing stuck in the wall but you could charge both your phone and your watch [TS]

  because as it stands are you know most of us it it's another device you have to [TS]

  charge of you know [TS]

  I mean most of us know this is the same way I feel about the macbook charger and [TS]

  here's the thing for me I've and I noticed this I noticed it this weekend [TS]

  again at the hotel we stayed at in New York on my side of the bed there was one [TS]

  open AC adapter and so you know to plug into things bedside I like unplug their [TS]

  lamp or unplug the hotel's alarm clock or something or set up one of the things [TS]

  to charge you know away from the bed away from bedside ya know this is [TS]

  exactly how I felt about the MacBook Chargers I could you just put one more [TS]

  USB port in here [TS]

  bike or something so I'm not walking reckons there's no other ports on the [TS]

  computer and obviously I can get the $80 dog collar whatever by a bee just had [TS]

  another port on that charge and break for my phone or my Apple watcher my iPad [TS]

  or my iMac [TS]

  a working trip and you have MacBook it is to me it's a very common move which [TS]

  is just plug in the MacBook then plug other devices in the USB ports on the [TS]

  thing and it's you know one thing is in the wall but you're charging multiple [TS]

  pastor charging or whatever you want to call it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean [TS]

  i i i jus kinda wish that little metal piece on the thing that looks like a [TS]

  heart rate monitor the charging thing you know that think falls off my [TS]

  nightstand alot Nilay Patel mentioned in his review you wish she had a baddest [TS]

  and I i agree with that [TS]

  wish there was some better way to prop up the watch on the nightstand yeah I [TS]

  agree I know it just keeps falling for me like a keep every every you know even [TS]

  if I string it around the back I guess that's what I should do but if it just [TS]

  keeps falling off the front and also again like I like you said I've been [TS]

  hoarding this thing all over the place [TS]

  alright I found that I will put it out there is a page at / watch / [TS]

  battery died aged him and that's where they say that the all the testing was [TS]

  conducted under thirty eight millimeter and this is directly quote from Apple [TS]

  AAPL watch battery performance claims are based on test results from the [TS]

  thirty eight millimeter Apple watch a forty two millimeter Alba watch [TS]

  typically experiences longer battery life they haven't you think I mean I [TS]

  guess you know given the surface Basu screen as well and I think it's exactly [TS]

  like with the iPhone 6 and the six plus six plus does have a bigger screen but [TS]

  it also get better bad bigger battery life because it is it's just more [TS]

  important a bigger bigger battery is more important than the detriment of a [TS]

  bigger screen to light up [TS]

  yes I pulled out my notes here I started charging the watch at 7:33 p.m. and it's [TS]

  finished charging at 9:20 p.m. so just under two hours but I had my my [TS]

  sixth-grade science experiment we had to do a science fair experiments scream in [TS]

  mind I did mine on batteries and the theory I wanted to test was ok everybody [TS]

  knows alkaline batteries last longer but are they cost effective doesn't do you [TS]

  actually is it worth your money to spend for the alkaline or just buy the cheap [TS]

  ones and use more of them and so far to conduct an experiment I put them into [TS]

  like a standard eveready flashlight you know like that just that seemed like [TS]

  that plastic flashlight and the problem was they all even the cheap batteries [TS]

  would would run the flashlight for like like 20 some hours and so it kept dying [TS]

  while I wasn't looking at it you know I like while I was sleeping so my parents [TS]

  started getting really mad because just to get light one set of data to actually [TS]

  is notice when the light was burned out it took me likes like three or four [TS]

  tries each [TS]

  and I could imagine trying to test something like that it's like you have [TS]

  to keep looking at it to make sure if it's fully charged and if you miss it [TS]

  and you have to start all over again it's sure I did have notes up to 80% and [TS]

  it was at eighty percent at 8:38 also the results of my experiment were there [TS]

  alkaline batteries were worth the money so now I feel like getting it out on the [TS]

  podcast makes all the effort I did 30 years ago those batteries and see if I [TS]

  can put them to take another break and it seems a good time for a break and we [TS]

  can keep going on Apple I want to get to the MacBook too but it's still so much [TS]

  more to cover with Apple iTouch and it's not going to get another chance to talk [TS]

  to someone else it had it for a while so but let me thank our next month's rent [TS]

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  of the price they sell razor blades they sell the handles they sell shaving cream [TS]

  they sell shaving gel anything you need for your shaving needs harry's has it at [TS]

  Harry's dot com here's the deal they just looked at it they looked at this [TS]

  scenario the same way that would be Parker looked at the eyeglasses thing [TS]

  where there's like this cartel pricing or why is this stuff so expensive why [TS]

  when you go into a drug store is a three pack of razor blades $20 or whatever the [TS]

  heck it cost doesn't that just seem like it's way too expensive and they looked [TS]

  at the market and it turns out it was so they started making their own blades [TS]

  they actually are so serious about it they bought a razor blade factory in [TS]

  Germany to me it just shows how serious they are about it they're making around [TS]

  played over in germany at a factory that were making razor blades for a long time [TS]

  and then they ship to the USA and then they should come right to you that there [TS]

  is no middle man there's no markup for retail you just go to Harry's dot com [TS]

  signup [TS]

  and they sell you played that they made themselves and that's the long-term [TS]

  costs because he by the handle from him and that's just one time and they last [TS]

  their handles are so nice they're built to last [TS]

  they're not hoping that they breaking have to buy another one they're selling [TS]

  a handle that's gonna last for a long time and then all you have to do is just [TS]

  keep i buy the blades have to sign up for the first you can just sign up for a [TS]

  kit just to get a starter thing just to see if it really as good as I'm telling [TS]

  you that it is but then afterwards if you're convinced you can sign up for a [TS]

  plan you figure out how often you go through blades you can sign up for a [TS]

  plan and then the blades just show up on a regular schedule you tell them how [TS]

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  check them out I think so [TS]

  now we've got a Father's Day 2009 today's podcast every time I gotta buy [TS]

  gifts I've or less than I guess I could listen we haven't even talked about the [TS]

  software and I feel like I've barely wrote about I so I like this couple more [TS]

  thousand words still in draft am working on its coming out soon I it's there's so [TS]

  much it is such an ambitious 1.0 product and I feel like it's not even there are [TS]

  things to complain about and there are things to praise it's you know and some [TS]

  of the things to complain about are clearly just 1.0 issues some of them I [TS]

  think there may be deeper design questions but it's just so expansive it [TS]

  is really really it's it's the hardest product review of it without question [TS]

  I agree with you and we we had the ability of the pleasure of having to [TS]

  reviewers which was a good way to break it up but still there's so much that can [TS]

  be written about this thing yeah you guys dad to and recode had to [TS]

  but yeah definitely I think helped to get comprehensive coverage from one [TS]

  publication cause I really felt like I do just no way I could cover in a week [TS]

  here's one of the complaints from your review well I here's what I say it's a [TS]

  line that day noted you wrote I love that you can customize the colors and [TS]

  details of the watch faces though I do wish you can personalize it more with [TS]

  photos or backgrounds and I have felt the same way like I have felt like this [TS]

  it it seems like it's it's in contradiction where at one point i've i [TS]

  felt like i cant believe how much fun I'm having just playing with the watch [TS]

  faces and getting them set up just want and then like an hour later I wish I [TS]

  could really cause I wish I could customize this more yeah I know and it's [TS]

  like I kind of kept thinking it was like do I want to have a photo of you know I [TS]

  don't have a child now I have a puppy so maybe this is a good example would I [TS]

  want to have that on my watch like it's now my home screen on my phone but it is [TS]

  that something I would want to have on my wrist all day and it sort of [TS]

  colluding get like our or at least to have the deeper background ability right [TS]

  like I love Thai iced even on my phone I frequently change my background on my [TS]

  phone either on the lockscreen Iran on the homescreen why can't I do that here [TS]

  I think it's a little [TS]

  I've been thinking about a lot and I feel like they I don't think they're [TS]

  going to give it to us I don't think they're gonna let us customize it I [TS]

  think they might add more built-in watch prices but I don't think there's going [TS]

  to be a third-party abilities like and certainly the current third-party [TS]

  there'll be a third party but I think I could see down the line [TS]

  giving the ability for us to change something from market our camera I mean [TS]

  the Photos app is right there [TS]

  and in its writing like a Lincoln Burns effect right right right right to a [TS]

  little 72 a little Ken Burns effect i've thought it was really important when [TS]

  iTunes it's an iTunes alert it's really important new new artists on ideas [TS]

  all right let's hold that thought cuz I do wanna I want to bring up this whole [TS]

  too many notifications issue that's what's get to that next but also keep a [TS]

  watch faces I don't know I feel like but I feel like they're not gonna do [TS]

  third-party watch faces cuz I feel like they they want all of the watch faces to [TS]

  still be within what they consider the Apple watch brand and I makes me wonder [TS]

  about something like the idea of pick one of your favorite photos and let that [TS]

  be the background is right there on the line because then obviously then I can [TS]

  have control over the photo but they would still have complete control over [TS]

  the typography and placement of what's on top of it the time the date whatever [TS]

  the style I like where we're it go but whatever [TS]

  like here's a night this is Mike now wanted to sign the watch face so my [TS]

  favorite one is the modular one that's what I where most days during the week [TS]

  and then you know I'd like to change it around but yeah I like to keep playing [TS]

  with the design of the module one and so what if you could put your photo in like [TS]

  a corner or something like that right [TS]

  avatar yea or like it was just a clean design we had the time and then like you [TS]

  know above or below sort of like Instagram's new layout after eight where [TS]

  you could sort of split the screen a little bit weird habit in a in a corner [TS]

  so they could design it really well as what I'm saying I think but but still [TS]

  within like the constraint over structure that they've defined yeah I [TS]

  can see that I need my guess is exactly what you're saying johnnie I didn't want [TS]

  his very very cleanly perfectly designed watch faces to be tarnished by a photo [TS]

  of ida now someone's ugly uncle or something [TS]

  I mostly just that they didn't want us to to be playing around with it too much [TS]

  I think they do when you're playing around with it but it's within these [TS]

  constraints of what they've defined as each of these watch faces now there's [TS]

  another angle here which is technical which is that the watch [TS]

  clearly the display is the biggest battery killer in the lot and they're [TS]

  very aggressive about having it turn on and off as aggressively as possible that [TS]

  off most of the time you tell your rest I just did as I said it and it was [TS]

  perfect it was actually it turned on exactly as I looked at it could not have [TS]

  turned on its head again so right now we're however I'm sitting right now is [TS]

  perfect posture for using a polite but then it goes off in six seconds if you [TS]

  haven't tapped in a very aggressive and it's an OLED screen the first Apple [TS]

  device with an OLED screen and no LEDs you no reason for being i think is that [TS]

  it gets really deep blacks and the blacks don't require power and only [TS]

  requires power to light up pixels in a non black color and the watch overall is [TS]

  dominated by black backgrounds and part of it is an aesthetic idea because it [TS]

  really does make the display blend in to the entire sapphire or on the sport [TS]

  watch class you know it in its inmost lighting it's it's beautiful and bright [TS]

  daylight you can definitely see where the displays [TS]

  so it's a static but it also technical where these black backgrounds absolutely [TS]

  increase the battery life and if you have a photo in the background it would [TS]

  have some kind of detrimental effect on that that's really interesting even the [TS]

  fancy butterflies and jellyfish yeah the background it's still a lot of black and [TS]

  the kind of faith in ya so I can't help but think that that might be one of the [TS]

  reasons they don't have that that to me seems like an obvious watch face so much [TS]

  black and most colorful one is Nikki yeah I would definitely say so the other [TS]

  one that can be colorful I don't know if you played with this but if you go to [TS]

  the the chronograph watch face and you customize the dial you can change the [TS]

  dial to be like a light cream color so gotta chronograph go to color go over to [TS]

  the third third it's the middle one where it says color and if you go down [TS]

  there is there's two light ones there's a white background and then there's like [TS]

  a cream creamy lady and I know what you call it which is the most lit up I think [TS]

  that's the most lit up you can make the display is probably closed with me but [TS]

  the thing is I don't think they look I think the chronograph veteran has a dark [TS]

  background making might be the most putting colors yeah I don't think that [TS]

  they're trying to mimic I think it's the closest they've gotten to skew morphism [TS]

  where I feel like they're trying to make that creamy one look like in the aged [TS]

  dial from analog watch like a lot of all day you know people who collect analog [TS]

  watches the older ones things that used to be white turned to a sort of creamy [TS]

  latina [TS]

  and it's a really pleasing effect you know I statically but its I don't [TS]

  somehow falls flat on a screen I think but I think that that one of the things [TS]

  and I know it's another one of the three things that apple says the thing is it's [TS]

  a great time he sort of it I think people are gonna have a blast I have a [TS]

  lot of fun I know it sounds stupid I had a lot of fun I still have fun [TS]

  dicking around kicking around with what I've got showing on the watch here's an [TS]

  example so I got to watch and it's funny because I met without ball while the [TS]

  conference in Ireland was going on to to get the review you know and I was [TS]

  supposed to be there speaking and i couldnt cuz a kid can fly with this gas [TS]

  bubble in my eye but I was scheduled to do a remote appearance with this forget [TS]

  the name of it but I'm sure you've seen it it's this it's like a Segway little [TS]

  segue type thing they mount an iPad on and then you can control it ago remote [TS]

  telepresence robot I had Yeah Yeah Yeah right like the ones they have an old [TS]

  commercials we don't have one in our office but I've seen it and other [TS]

  opposite sounds silly but it was actually kind of fun and I got to like [TS]

  driving around the room at all I came out on stage and and said a few words to [TS]

  the crowd and accidentally called to double robotics yes double robotics but [TS]

  anyway I had a scheduled appearance over remotely in Ireland and I was awesome I [TS]

  thought it was so great that I could put on my watch phase the time in that time [TS]

  zone just up in the corner and so I like totally alleviated my anxiety that I was [TS]

  going to watch it and to further confuse it it was daylight savings time weekend [TS]

  in the United Kingdom which is different than that when when it was here so [TS]

  everything was going to switch on Sunday night or something like that [TS]

  so instead of being like plus for their gonna switch to plus five I just put the [TS]

  time up in my corner in Ireland and I knew that I wasn't gonna be little thing [TS]

  and then once I was done with that I had no concern about what time it was in [TS]

  england anymore so I just turned out often switch it to fitness tracking or [TS]

  something [TS]

  yeah that's why I left that modular despite they can fit too much info on [TS]

  there which could be distracting people died I love it and I keep changing the [TS]

  top left hand corner to either California time like you mentioned or to [TS]

  the sunset time yeah that's why I might actually used that now I've been meaning [TS]

  to try and get it sounds corny but I also like change them based on my outfit [TS]

  like I know a lot of people thought I was being super sarcastic in that video [TS]

  and I guess I kinda was but I do like that either the butterfly or the flower [TS]

  watch face when I go out [TS]

  yeah I could totally see that just because you unless you know like in the [TS]

  day time you got meetings you've got things you really do want to see your [TS]

  appointment and then if you're just going out at night you can have dinner [TS]

  you really don't need all that crap it and I and a couple of days there was [TS]

  changing the color of the modular want to the color of the shadows felt super [TS]

  corny but it was fun I don't know it's it's if you can't if you're so [TS]

  technically minded that you can't imagine that it's fun to do things like [TS]

  change the second hand on your watch based on your wins then it's you not [TS]

  gonna see the appeal of this device compared to other ones I do I think it's [TS]

  kind of fun right I like changing like the blue secondhand I don't know why I [TS]

  will admit I don't really use the analog ones to get at me as a big deal and [TS]

  because i've i've worn and analogue Dial Watch forward so many years now my brain [TS]

  naturally understands time only by [TS]

  the hands and so if I look at a digital watch meaning digital like it showing [TS]

  the digits because I feel like the word digital watches actually confusing it [TS]

  requires long discretion digression but it's like it means two different things [TS]

  one in an electronic watch that is digital lead driven in terms of how it [TS]

  keeps time as opposed to an analog watch which is using gears and purely [TS]

  mechanical nothing electronic but digital watch also can mean a watch that [TS]

  is showing the time through numeric digits as opposed through analog hands [TS]

  and to me there's nothing at all [TS]

  false in terms of like this whole movement away from school morphism about [TS]

  having a digital watch in terms of its being electronic using an analog dial in [TS]

  terms of showing time with the hands it's just a different way of displaying [TS]

  information and when you have these analog hands on that but they don't have [TS]

  any drop shadows or 3d effects or anything like that it's very very flat [TS]

  and I think very natural but that to me is how I tell time and it's also why I [TS]

  like in my review I mention that one of my keyboard I'll often clanton my wrists [TS]

  to see the time and everybody you know and I even said I yes I know the time is [TS]

  up in the corner of my Mac but it just doesn't make sense to me it in like just [TS]

  without having to even think about it way that it does when I get my wrist and [TS]

  that's where I think like baby that's one part of the software I think they [TS]

  have done such a good job because you're talking about these things that works so [TS]

  well for you personally [TS]

  which I could care less about I mean I care about you I don't care about them [TS]

  for me and I found some layouts that just works so well for me and I have [TS]

  also warned analog watch for a long time but with this like it just it helps me [TS]

  so much to see my calendar appointments and Mike for me that that's been like I [TS]

  can just glanced down and I don't [TS]

  I'm yes I same sort of thing yes I get the pop-up notification from out longer [TS]

  whatever on my phone but I sort of AM able to budget my time better knowing ok [TS]

  add two more hours till I have this puppy training class or whatever and i [TS]

  cant even see why I think it shows that people at all especially the people you [TS]

  know the creative team behind it [TS]

  haven't very meeting driven culture where there's a big company they're [TS]

  working at the same time and they have these things like you know design [TS]

  meetings and stuff like that I think it really shows that the watch can be set [TS]

  up you can configure in a way that really really conducive to that and I [TS]

  can also see why I'll bet you're right I don't think it's a coincidence that the [TS]

  modular face is the second one I think that for somebody who has a very [TS]

  frequently has meetings and as you know a lot of events on their calendar that [TS]

  that module one is really going to be popular and I can also see why then you [TS]

  would want the time in in a digital form because then you see you see the numbers [TS]

  of the current time and you see the numbers of the meeting that's coming up [TS]

  and you know hey it's already 10 48 and I've got an 1130 so anything I want to [TS]

  do it [TS]

  looking at my right now there's so many numbers I mean I'm and I hate numbers [TS]

  this really funny that I like this one so much but like I've got the time I've [TS]

  got my next appointment I've got the temperature outside I got the battery [TS]

  life icon 76 right now the Sun sets 732 I love all that information I don't even [TS]

  know she could change the color yeah so i i changes today to purple because I [TS]

  was wearing a purple sure small things but yeah I mean and as I said I really [TS]

  like those are the two big things both telling time and keeping me on schedule [TS]

  and as a fitness tracker fitness device where this thing is really started to [TS]

  play big in my life over the last week and maybe my piece next week maybe on [TS]

  this is sort of about that notification thing and how it found a good balance in [TS]

  many ways despite the fact that it's gone off like eight times on this [TS]

  broadcast let's talk about that next but I have i mean another sponsor out here [TS]

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  do not give you my backup software intolerant that John Gruber told that [TS]

  was a good gift gotta get a flooded so that everyone to get their money back [TS]

  and we're gonna get her flowers or fractures something to [TS]

  I love you listening to get your mom just backup software you are terrible [TS]

  children I want to talk about notifications on this thing because I [TS]

  thought that if there's one thing that I saw across the reviews that to me I [TS]

  didn't get where complaints from reviewers saying well my risk is keeps [TS]

  pinging pinging pinging it can be annoying because they've I think it's [TS]

  really easy to filter it and to say I i kind of one of the things it takes you [TS]

  getting used to is learning what you have to do from the Apple watch app on [TS]

  your phone and what you can configure on the watch alone it is a little it takes [TS]

  some getting used to I don't think it to complain I can see why you can't that [TS]

  way they don't put everything on the watch but one of the things that you do [TS]

  from the phone from the Apple watch out on the phone as you go to the Apple [TS]

  watch out you go to notifications and then it just lists all of the apps on [TS]

  your phone that have notifications turned on and wet in and you can turn [TS]

  off on Abyei basis whether they go to your watch and so every time I got [TS]

  something on my watch that annoyed me I would just go to my phone go to that app [TS]

  turn it off and said I wanted him no more periscope occasions on my watch [TS]

  that was the first thing I did like after I parted ways with a boy had the [TS]

  review I think it took about two minutes for me to just say alright periscope [TS]

  you're gone I had a bunch of things like that i'm looking to my list now I found [TS]

  anything that didn't let me respond I wanted off so for example tweet by [TS]

  direct messages I love get a direct messages are very close to text I want [TS]

  notifications for them it's in fact the only thing I get notifications from [TS]

  Twitter related just because I know a lot of people have like replies [TS]

  inventions and stuff like that but you know people like you I don't have too [TS]

  many you know where it just in a weird way that we're weird micro celebrities [TS]

  you know it's just this sounds stupid but I know I get two or three hundred [TS]

  replies a day I cannot possibly I could but [TS]

  I mean it would drive me insane if I get notifications but I thought DMZ on my [TS]

  watch were annoying to cause I couldn't do anything with them and he can't [TS]

  really do anything [TS]

  email either we can get to that I find the inclusion of email on Apple watch to [TS]

  be bizarre and it seems like something it seems like one of the best apps that [TS]

  they wrote it works incredibly well and I feel like somebody really knocked it [TS]

  out of the park building it but I don't understand why like meanwhile because [TS]

  you can't reply there is no way to reply to an email I guess I can't understand [TS]

  you know i i say that I'm being a little bit hyperbolic because I understand that [TS]

  sometimes if you get a really important email you might want to see it right [TS]

  there on the watch and then you have to do so but the fact that you don't have [TS]

  to do something on the phone I don't know there's certain it crosses a line [TS]

  that to me it it why I never liked wearing my original people put their [TS]

  side the size of the pebble and the screen or whatever that thing that [TS]

  always got me with the original pebble was I could never respond I always had [TS]

  to go back to the phone and every once in a while I'd get you know as I tried [TS]

  it it's a life well I'm glad I saw that on my wrist but now I have to go to my [TS]

  phone reply like I reply to text messages using the watch frequently its [TS]

  voice with sometimes some you know the auto buttons are actually pretty good [TS]

  cases they're pretty good right you know you can set that was yeah but the voice [TS]

  works pretty well for me and again that is going to marry you by your you know [TS]

  your current cellular connection connection but I wrote weeks ago that I [TS]

  have found Siri to be getting a lot better [TS]

  dictation at very least in terms of you know just when you talk to Siri whether [TS]

  it's on the water on the phone [TS]

  the transcription happens faster it seems to be happening a lot more [TS]

  accurately and it's really pretty good too little frustrating from the way the [TS]

  biggest frustration on a watch is there's no text editing so if it gets it [TS]

  almost right if I dictate a sentence long response via the watch but it has [TS]

  one serious I'm whatever you want to call the typos that serious you have to [TS]

  decide whether to scrap the whole thing and start over or just let it fly and [TS]

  hope that your correspondent sympathizes and understand right yeah I found it one [TS]

  thing I did find see really helpful and I know you can't respond to emails but [TS]

  it is helpful like if I get an email that says a company can meet at 2 p.m. I [TS]

  have Siri make that I've done this had to make that appointment on my email on [TS]

  my calendar through the watch I yeah I guess like it would really be nice to be [TS]

  able to respond to those people on say yes I can make that meeting I understand [TS]

  why they don't let you respond and they do for tax because texts tend to be one [TS]

  sentence at the time and even know our words and even though you might send to [TS]

  some emails yes 2 o'clock is fine or you know absolutely or something like that a [TS]

  lot of times you don't there's a lot of emails then required even just a few [TS]

  sentences and once you get to a few sentences the odds of the dictation [TS]

  being perfect are very low and the fact that you can txt Edit you know I do the [TS]

  dictation on my phone [TS]

  tons too especially on the east coast in winter wear my hands are cold I might be [TS]

  outside and again that's what made me write the thing a couple of weeks ago [TS]

  about how I've noticed that it's getting better but the thing with the phone is [TS]

  if there's one stupid mistake in the Serie transcribed you can double-click [TS]

  that word hit the microphone but again and replace that one word by you know in [TS]

  unseating much market as clearly as you can [TS]

  what that works you can't do that with the watch and it's like the one downside [TS]

  to that [TS]

  yeah I mean yeah I just in terms of email I have a lot more frustrations [TS]

  that go way beyond the reply [TS]

  stuff but again I think that's mostly my frustrations with some of the [TS]

  notification customization features or lack thereof [TS]

  yeah I mean one thing and I and IV set up VIP but to me the IP doesn't go far [TS]

  enough right and it this is some of the intelligence and I think Apple stands to [TS]

  learn a lot from Google and where I do feel like the missing presence of Google [TS]

  on this device is in G [TS]

  on this device is in G [TS]

  email for instance I mean yes I do get the notifications that hit in like I [TS]

  used in box I do get those notifications on my wrists and those those are usually [TS]

  really helpful usually inbox is really good at knowing when I like emails and I [TS]

  don't like emails you know surfacing ones from friends and family putting the [TS]

  other ones in there other filters John if you use it but I find It really [TS]

  helpful and then in mail it's just there so many other emails beyond VIP those [TS]

  people that designated as VIPs that I want coming to my wrist and it just you [TS]

  don't have that level of granule granularity you can't mail doesn't know [TS]

  well enough which people I'd like to respond to emails are important to me [TS]

  yeah I think Steven Levy had a piece just yesterday where his back channel [TS]

  thing and medium where he talked about things that we need like the next level [TS]

  for a ride to go is notification filtering its it is it's too it's too [TS]

  hard to do by rules and I think back to spam filter however when spam first [TS]

  became a problem with email you know like in the late nineties and the way I [TS]

  dealt with in a way most people I knew dealt with it is we had a bunch of [TS]

  filters rules we you know you just set up your mail client with a bunch of [TS]

  rules and there was no I don't a little things like that like if you're on [TS]

  corporate mailing list you still have to do that you do definitely but for the [TS]

  most part the most spam is already you know there's no way that you can have [TS]

  without something like you know a system level above unite your rules you'd be [TS]

  inundated and cuz they just isn't it working I remembered it but there were [TS]

  like [TS]

  you know six or seven rules you could use it and boom you could cut your spam [TS]

  by like 90% and it's just not enough anymore and I kind of feel like [TS]

  notifications are that way where you can right now it's like we're at that area [TS]

  where we're setting up our own filters like you're saying okay I don't know my [TS]

  email that's crazy but I do want the people on this VIP list ok they go and [TS]

  it's nice I know he me know cuz it's there's always going to be an important [TS]

  email that is it from someone already on your VIP list and then you gonna you [TS]

  want that and it seems as though there ought to be away for a guy to figure [TS]

  that out and you know and if anybody's gonna get that bad if anybody is doing [TS]

  it already it's definitely Google cuz that's right right and yeah for sure and [TS]

  I mean that's that's like for instance why you keep hearing these things today [TS]

  cuz I've been out and about with the with the puppy and I wanted to keep my [TS]

  email our talks have been waiting for an email back from from Google actually and [TS]

  if I turned on my VIP thing like I don't have that specific contact as a VIP why [TS]

  would I write but if i dont if I don't like there's no way to get the stuff in [TS]

  the middle [TS]

  yeah it's either it's giving me the lowest hanging stuff which is like [TS]

  emails from you know general [TS]

  wall street journal editors about SEO term words and then I'm getting iTunes [TS]

  spam and then I'm getting email comes in from that person from Google and [TS]

  immediately on my wrist when I'm out and about in the apartment can take it just [TS]

  kicked in as I had the show on my watch I guess I only had it scheduled for 90 [TS]

  minutes so it's over one of my least favorite things on the watch face is if [TS]

  you have your next event as one of the complications when you're done for the [TS]

  day it changes to say no more events and it's like in all capital letters and it [TS]

  it just seems like visual pollution to me know more about it makes me feel like [TS]

  I'm there I'm doing something wrong that I don't have it [TS]

  scheduled to have nothing else to do today you can go to bed now I totally [TS]

  agree with the notification I want I want I want this whole thing to just [TS]

  figure out what I what I want on my wrist and it could maybe use maybe if [TS]

  there was a way to give a thumbs down to a notification that gets through you [TS]

  know and and maybe like some kind of waiver you can give a thumbs down to a [TS]

  notification that gets through that you really didn't want and conversely on [TS]

  your phone to give a thumbs up to a notification that was only on your phone [TS]

  and didn't go to arrest over this was good I wish that this economy rest and [TS]

  then it needs a little bit of that feedback for sure and I don't think I [TS]

  mean that's how that's how Google's right i mean they knew they know what we [TS]

  favor it that's part of what what they do and like if I move something from you [TS]

  know whatever they call it might now promotions update updates is where [TS]

  things that they sometimes don't get right that put things that I that are [TS]

  important to me and updates in that filter and I dragged it you know they [TS]

  automatically start putting things there do you keep the notifications indicator [TS]

  on its that red dot the I do but I i this is part of this piece I might want [TS]

  to write for next week that thing can control your life [TS]

  bike I looked down and I you know it's sort of like that it it to me a variety [TS]

  of the blinking red dot from the blackberry blackberry age I was exactly [TS]

  what I was going to ask you as a known former recovering it is a new and it's [TS]

  like I gotta look I got to look like even know it's probably not something I [TS]

  care about at all I need to look no I've never been a Blackberry user but I know [TS]

  enough that that the ideal is that BlackBerry's had a physical red LED and [TS]

  it would blink if you had new messages and then you have your BlackBerry was [TS]

  blinking red you could leave it on your desk or something and you walk when you [TS]

  come back and read you pick up your Blackberry to see what is and I remember [TS]

  when in heroin BlackBerry users were switching to Android phones and iPhones [TS]

  that the thing that it is can I kept saying over and over again as I don't [TS]

  know what to do with that red light God I don't even want to tell Apple how much [TS]

  more money I would spend for an otherwise identical iPhone with a [TS]

  blinking red light right now I heard that so many people and you probably did [TS]

  too [TS]

  during known sympathizer to the blackberry addict cause I can see why [TS]

  though now with this watch like I still have it on but I'm thinking either way I [TS]

  still think that red light on a on an iPhone would save a lot of battery life [TS]

  I i see the appeal of it to me it's the exact equivalent of the the ringer [TS]

  switch on the iPhone which most phones don't come with Android phones don't [TS]

  have a dedicated on offering her switch and I don't know what I would do without [TS]

  that I love my ringer switch it would drive me in fact when I do try using [TS]

  phones other like I have the the 2nd gen motox here [TS]

  honest-to-god I think my single biggest complaint about it is that it doesn't [TS]

  have a ringer switch above and beyond all of the things that I'd prefer about [TS]

  iOS vs Android and [TS]

  physical hardware of the phone at at receptors thing that just drives me nuts [TS]

  is i cant to silence it without turning it on and I know that there's a quick [TS]

  way to do it from the top you go down and it's a couple of taps but I'm just [TS]

  addicted to the way that I can just turn it on and off without even looking at it [TS]

  and to me in that same way that's what the blinking red light on the blackberry [TS]

  was it was a way of saying we're just going to put this on the device we're [TS]

  gonna make it a hardware feature not a software feature that you can tell if [TS]

  there's something no I don't think I've ever used my god you crazy do you leave [TS]

  it on and you leave it off so you always have sounds coming from your iPhone I [TS]

  would do in like going to something that I use it just silence I keep its silence [TS]

  because I just feel otherwise I feel like I'm getting bombarded with sounds [TS]

  all the time I like to have it off I mean honestly you know and i really [TS]

  wanna check it I use this to check to make sure I'm getting my alarms going [TS]

  off in the morning [TS]

  well see thats you know not everybody is addicted to everything right it's like [TS]

  but to me like it's incomprehensible to me that every phone doesn't come with [TS]

  this which like this and I think it's by as a time has gone on is my least [TS]

  favorite thing about the current generation of iPad where they got rid of [TS]

  that switch and I know other people use it was like you can trigger it on the [TS]

  iPad's to be either a rotation lock whereas a lot but I kept it to sit [TS]

  that's what I used to use it as I still kept its outlook yeah I mean I hate this [TS]

  little red button but I hate I love it also I gotta turn it off I think I kind [TS]

  of think I'm gonna end up turning it off in the long run and just [TS]

  I just checked by swiping down to see if there are notifications that i've you [TS]

  know there are still pending [TS]

  yeah I mean that's like one thing to this [TS]

  have to clean these all out but this this and make that notification tray on [TS]

  your phone does right I think so except the one on your phone can have more [TS]

  because some of them don't go through I wish there was a way to clear these all [TS]

  your is forced touch it is this a secret for such yeah my god this is the [TS]

  craziest thing to me the greatest touch is secret for stat sheet is like a mind [TS]

  bending thing I've just changed you find things that are just not you would never [TS]

  have known you would have never thought to force touch on that menu I never [TS]

  would have thought to force touch on the notification and you just like I was on [TS]

  the verge passed last week would have never thought to force touch on the [TS]

  emojis to change you can change like the the Pacman smiley guy to a red red faced [TS]

  change the hearts to program you can get a Purple Heart on this thing that is my [TS]

  tip I know that it's you know ten days away [TS]

  tend two weeks away from everybody out there getting there a polite as my [TS]

  number if there's one thing I remember from this episode of the show when you [TS]

  get your Apple watch its don't forget to try for step everywhere you go [TS]

  know everything just forced at every single thing on on the course touching [TS]

  Notification Center [TS]

  I don't know what they call it if they call it but it would you come to this is [TS]

  completely like to come down from the top and forced touch and you get one [TS]

  button clear all and they all go away so let me tell you this I'm so addicted to [TS]

  that I started doing it on my phone because one of the things that and its [TS]

  longstanding complain a lot of people have it on the iPhone you can't you [TS]

  can't clear all of your notifications you can only do it a priority and clear [TS]

  again and then you have to the next exit unclear so I just I've started forced [TS]

  touching my phone [TS]

  thinking that I can clear off because I clear all on my way we're pretty sure [TS]

  first touches coming to the phone right i mean it seems like yeah but I really [TS]

  here's the big we could go on and on about this but here's my my question [TS]

  about it with the phone is we have 22 devices with forced to attend [TS]

  i wanna talk to you about the MacBook too and we can get to it there but we [TS]

  have the new MacBook which has the first touch trackpad and we have the watch [TS]

  which has forced touch screen on the watch forced touch it the whole screen [TS]

  is just effectively about it doesn't matter where you force touch it's just a [TS]

  it's either forced a poor not a four step and that's it [TS]

  a regular tap has location like a touch screen if you tap hard it's just a [TS]

  four-step doesn't matter where so you can't force tap on a thing on the watch [TS]

  and I think that makes sense because it's so small on the trackpad obviously [TS]

  it's very very precise and you get you get the tactic feedback exactly where [TS]

  your fingers so I think it's definitely coming to the iPhone I think it's coming [TS]

  to the iPad eventually if not this year it'll be just one more year but my [TS]

  question is is on these phones and tablet is it going to be like precise or [TS]

  is it going to be like the watch where it's like you've just for stopped and [TS]

  that's it and it doesn't matter where your fingers on the screen I think it's [TS]

  gonna be person depending on the screen size right I think like the MacBook you [TS]

  can for such a network right and that's very precise so I could see that also [TS]

  being an option on and on the iPhone right like if I force touched on instead [TS]

  of double tapped on a word maybe something else when I definitely wanted [TS]

  to work that way I wanted to be like precise so I can put up on a word but I [TS]

  just wonder whether I'm setting myself up for disappointment because [TS]

  engineering wise like it can they can make the trackpad so that the trackpad [TS]

  isn't underneath the trackpad is entirely set up as a haptic feedback but [TS]

  they may not be it because of this the phone all there is a screen effectively [TS]

  they may not have room to make the whole thing [TS]

  you know precisely tactic I don't know I might be setting myself up for [TS]

  disappointment there so I'm not letting myself get I guess now that I think [TS]

  about it too but yeah it's certainly I would be very happy to force touch on [TS]

  the notifications clear all right you know what I B also really happy for [TS]

  Apple if you are listening to this podcast I want to force touch and [TS]

  control center on the wireless command the little wireless circle and I want to [TS]

  go to the settings menu and there I want to be able to the wireless settings menu [TS]

  and I want to be able to get to wifi ok I see that's a request you go from [TS]

  control center for studies on the [TS]

  I hate that I can't get to settings from control center I see what you mean where [TS]

  you just i wanted to talk on and off but do it to a force touch on it and then [TS]

  jump to the settings for Bluetooth yes that is it that is why would I will be [TS]

  berry berry I would be so happy and then you can do it like with all of them [TS]

  because you knew you could do it with do not disturb instead of just turning on [TS]

  or off you would jump to your do not disturb settings and you could change [TS]

  like the time that I mean most of the time and I'm turning on and off wifi [TS]

  it's true I'm I'm just getting on my home network or whatever for some reason [TS]

  I turned off wifi or something someplace and I turned it off but a lot of time [TS]

  I'm also going to someplace and I want to get on a new wi-fi network and I just [TS]

  want to get to the wireless the wifi settings and it's a whole other step but [TS]

  gotta go into settings and I gotta get wifi and yes I know cry me a river its [TS]

  three taps to task but the request I have two things i wanna talk about still [TS]

  before we wrap up I want to talk about third-party apps on the watch and i [TS]

  wanna talk about the new MacBook you have any doubts that you must talk about [TS]

  I think we could easily fill up our remaining time before we get started [TS]

  with either let me just think he's still sleeping he's been sleeping the whole [TS]

  podcast at how bored he has a [TS]

  so bored by this conversation my boyhood family dog think I was in second grade [TS]

  Chester and I loved him as much as I've ever loved any living being on this [TS]

  planet just about and he slept 23 hours I think as a public and even as an adult [TS]

  he did I think he probably slept about 21 hours a day but I was so good I was I [TS]

  was pretty upset because I thought he would be playing with me stop all the [TS]

  night thought so too I've been home for like the last time I took off for have a [TS]

  column this week and I'm so call me to play with him all day he sleeps all day [TS]

  I keep I think he's depressed I think he's depressed so we need to take up [TS]

  someplace no no he's a puppy he sleeps all day that's what he's doing and i [TS]

  know i think he's got it begins upset No [TS]

  that is what they do that's kinda awesome if you think about it they're [TS]

  they're living the life did you get the week just to go to go metaphor second [TS]

  did you get the week off because you did that I bought review and the MacBook [TS]

  review at the same time which I say yes and then I decided to get a puppy is [TS]

  like the day after so I barely slept for a very long time but yes I did I did get [TS]

  that reason I forget how many words long my Apple watch review was which didn't [TS]

  really go to the software and it was still many many thousands of words and [TS]

  when I was done I really felt like I need to check myself into a spot or [TS]

  something and cooperate and meantime you had I cannot believe that you both at [TS]

  the same time people email me and they did you get the MacBook overview and I [TS]

  was like no I did not get the MacBook I didn't want the MacBook I'm exhausted [TS]

  having reviewed the Apple watch you did both you know that video took so much [TS]

  out of me that Apple watch video because I just never thought it would actually [TS]

  work we work we spent like so much time thinking about it and then [TS]

  I just so many hours editing and figuring out of this thing could come [TS]

  together to a piece that people would actually want to watch that we were [TS]

  there at the I I was at the office to two or three nights in a row out till 2 [TS]

  a.m. and then I was like oh yeah and then this is Mac Book Review I salute [TS]

  you because I don't understand I did it I don't understand how you did the video [TS]

  and I don't understand he did all three of the things and the MacBook she had a [TS]

  good MacBook video too but for those who have a washout put in a shallow but [TS]

  Joanna's Apple watch video was truly first person she literally put a helmet [TS]

  on that could support a look like an SLR I mean it was it was it was a it's a 72 [TS]

  Canon 7d so no crappy go pro it an actual I honestly I watch the video [TS]

  first and then at the end there is like a third person shot that shows you [TS]

  shooting and I was like at first I thought it was a joke and I thought know [TS]

  that explains why the quality was so great the whole thing is it a day in the [TS]

  life of using Apple watch shot literally from the first person perspective you [TS]

  know eyeball level and the way she did was by spending a day of her life with a [TS]

  helmet with with a Canon 7d in front of her face [TS]

  yeah it was insane I mean I wanted to do something different every once in a [TS]

  video reviews of this thing I want to do something different and my whole purpose [TS]

  was actually to like sort of do an anti Apple ads like this is what it's like to [TS]

  use it everyday life and not on like a beautiful white background and yeah I [TS]

  just turned into this massive project and one of the producers had done [TS]

  something similar and I was like so about this helmet camera [TS]

  you think it's like you think it's ready to go and we just did and yeah it was [TS]

  really worked well and I thought the other thing to hear the other thing [TS]

  though that amazes me and and i think is very slow worker but to me that amazes [TS]

  me is that not just that you did this very production in hand intensive video [TS]

  and and footage intensive right cuz you had to spend all day with the helmet on [TS]

  took a long time to get all the footage clearly took a long time to edit and you [TS]

  wrote a completely credible column reviewing it and having used the watch [TS]

  myself and watch the video review clearly you spent enough time using the [TS]

  watch to form a very informed opinion so that to me is part of the problem with [TS]

  these reviews schedules is that it takes so much time with the device before you [TS]

  can even start because you need the time to form a genuine opinion understanding [TS]

  right I know and I think people were concerned also about the MacBook I had [TS]

  the MacBook for two weeks I had to know that was a nice thing about both of [TS]

  these pieces I look we could definitely use some more time on the watch in terms [TS]

  of the embargo time but I had a week and a half and really hammered on that and [TS]

  then also use the macro is my main laptop through the whole thing so I had [TS]

  a good amount of time for testing you know battery life testing on macbook can [TS]

  take quite a bit of a good amount of time for that your video and click on [TS]

  his last hole arias cameo from [TS]

  how did the world did you get that alright yeah I mean obviously some parts [TS]

  of the video were scripted alright okay people have been like so do you really [TS]

  just run into him now I didn't just run into report with a huge have a helmet [TS]

  camera and mic was like Rupert can you still buy watch that was scripted but he [TS]

  was totally gave it was great to work with on it he was just like ok sure [TS]

  themselves like fun he's always [TS]

  great sense of humor yeah he and he like we didn't I didn't say what to say was [TS]

  just like we'll try it out and he he was the one who really ran with it so I die [TS]

  I was like alright alright yeah you can still watch my idea was honestly just to [TS]

  run into an elevator which actually does happen a lot I will come up from doing a [TS]

  Fox News business hit and he'll be in the same floor and I'll say hi but im [TS]

  sure 001 do this [TS]

  yeah I mean also I kept joking I can assure you you know it's not the Apple [TS]

  watch addition [TS]

  good enough for you [TS]

  Rupert Murdoch is clearly among the people on the planet earth where the [TS]

  difference between addition and the regular Apple is well whatever color I [TS]

  like I thought it was great and I really do think it also kind of it kind of [TS]

  hammers home the modern the modern version of The Wall Street Journal [TS]

  culture like it wasn't out of character I think it's completely within the [TS]

  character of the the style of reviews you guys do now but i dont have been the [TS]

  publisher the paper you know him famous publisher the papers show up as a cameo [TS]

  in a review of tech product I thought it was great yeah I mean I tried to ever I [TS]

  wanted every scene to have a little bit of a purpose [TS]

  obviously my sister saying you know I can't catch ya you know like fuck you to [TS]

  me like I thought that was fun it was fun but also showed like a people are [TS]

  gonna be really excited by getting this watching be like making phone calls on [TS]

  it and actually everybody so wats funny look at this point it's really funny [TS]

  their interpretation of that because I didn't editorialized so much like so [TS]

  many of my reviews ABC medical realizing I say bye or don't buy you know this is [TS]

  the end in that I don't really editorialize so much and so people have [TS]

  had different interpretations of it which is great I've had people email me [TS]

  and tweet saying I watched it three times [TS]

  and I'm still not sure if you liked it or you didn't like it which I kind of [TS]

  love and think you know certainly people i've watch and said I'm definitely not [TS]

  buying one and other people said all you made me want one so badly you know [TS]

  Business Insider completely ripped off the article and said this is the reason [TS]

  you would not want to buy wine ripped off the video I just yeah I've had the [TS]

  same thing with my review I have had people I've had responses both ways I [TS]

  had people said I was really on the fence I was gonna wait this out there i [TS]

  read your review and I thought screw it I'm getting on at three o'clock in the [TS]

  morning in other day they go on sale and then I had other people just as many who [TS]

  said I was totally set to buy one of these and I read review and buy and when [TS]

  I'm gonna wait I've had both responses an outing that ever happened with the [TS]

  product before that I can yeah and it wasn't just one or two it was a solid [TS]

  half a dozen both ways [TS]

  yeah I mean I did in the column I was obviously a little late night I told [TS]

  many friends I don't think they should buy this and then certainly many people [TS]

  read and i've been getting tons of emails from people saying you think I [TS]

  should get this sport version do you think I should get this fans you know [TS]

  lots of people read and said yeah you showed me the good the bad and deciding [TS]

  on yesterday at whatever yeah you know I got the the steel addition I am glad I [TS]

  did but I kind of wish I had more time with Sport Edition but I think I know [TS]

  enough and I've definitely you know I've seen enough and I trust Apple you know [TS]

  him from that what other people have tried and it said and if the fact that I [TS]

  like those sport pants so much that I feel like anybody is on the fence but [TS]

  kinda want one just go ahead and get the sport 1 at the entry level price and [TS]

  you're gonna get us totally quality device the crystal crown feels great [TS]

  the buttons great it's every bit as good build quality is Apple's other aluminum [TS]

  stuff like the phones you're getting a totally great man yes it is robert is a [TS]

  rubber wristband but it's really really good one it really is so don't worry [TS]

  about it like if you're on the fence at all you know [TS]

  and you can definitely swing the 350 or 400 for the sport watch just get it and [TS]

  it's gonna be it's gonna be fun and specially if you're really just [TS]

  interested in playing with the platform like your dear not getting a low tier [TS]

  device if you do it but it's hard it is a hard thing when people just want you [TS]

  to say should I buy it or not because I do it's it to me I can't answer either [TS]

  way I cannot just say yes I can wholeheartedly endorse it but I can [TS]

  trash it either and I feel led Business Insider b7 jackasses they're not I [TS]

  thought that if there's any you know we all had different takes about what we [TS]

  like to move we didn't like I thought that the consensus was clearly this is a [TS]

  very interesting 1.0 this is it there's some things that are definitely that [TS]

  they now like the fitness tracking and there's other stuff that is a question [TS]

  mark and I thought you know I thought that was the consistency across the [TS]

  board that it's you know maybe depends it you know and you're not going to get [TS]

  a yes or no [TS]

  yeah I think this like Apple's tagline for this was on the money you know this [TS]

  is the most personal product ever it it's very hard to review something so [TS]

  personal [TS]

  it's very hard to to to review something that specifically fits into that fits on [TS]

  your body and fits into your life and it's a very distinct yeah and I think [TS]

  it's really it's really hard to do something to to review something we're a [TS]

  big part of the appeal is whether you just think it's cooler not fun so I told [TS]

  you know I had to try it and is only a few stores that take there's not that [TS]

  many stories to take a pay but every time I use it at Whole Foods every [TS]

  single time the cashier notices and I'm not doing it in an ostentatious way if [TS]

  anything the introvert in me is trying to sort not hide it but do it is served [TS]

  as possible and I paid without my phone [TS]

  you know ever since the thing came out and I got a few comments about it when [TS]

  the phone first came out [TS]

  but nothing like with the watch with the watch every single time they're like oh [TS]

  my god did you just do what I think he did and I say yes and then they're like [TS]

  how did you know some of them know that the watch is now yet they say how did [TS]

  you get it [TS]

  others I had a cashier at hope you two had no idea what up a watch was all she [TS]

  said was did you to pay with your watch and I said yes and she goes that is so [TS]

  cool and Jamie I could tell she did not know that it was an apple what she did [TS]

  know the name it all she knows that I paid for my groceries with my watch and [TS]

  she said that is so called the I found the same thing but i doin read the woman [TS]

  behind the counter was like that's an apple watch and to me that showed the [TS]

  power of like how the excitement about this thing I'm buying 1 I'm buying one [TS]

  and it but you haven't seen it so I'm buying you but you don't know about it [TS]

  you know and like she just was in awe that she said she was buying it and of [TS]

  course it was like the first time I tried it there so I wasn't really sure [TS]

  how to get up a working now obviously have no problem I didn't this and other [TS]

  things like not totally into it if you got a press the button twice so I did [TS]

  this I here's what I did is the first place where I used to the Apple pashley [TS]

  was in the Apple store I had to my moms long story but my mom broke her old iPad [TS]

  and so I was going up for Easter and I thought you know what I just give her [TS]

  mother's day gift early and get a new iPad it was a long out of wanted to so I [TS]

  used a paid to pay for iPad from my mom and I didn't know how it worked and I [TS]

  didn't want to look it up I've really wanted to try to figure it out on my own [TS]

  and I knew that I'd figured I had configured the thing you go through the [TS]

  phone to set up a credit card it doesn't just transfer your apples your existing [TS]

  cards over because it can't because when you set up a device for Apple pay [TS]

  its per device that part of the security the privacy / security of the way I hope [TS]

  it works it's per device so in the same way that if like you replace your iPhone [TS]

  if it breaks and you replace it and you restore from backup you have to set up [TS]

  your cards again because it's not part of the device storage where Apple [TS]

  pickets toward you have to set up your watch the same way you do that though on [TS]

  the phone through the Apple pay up he said when I had a credit card and you [TS]

  can add the one from your iTunes account very easily or you can take a picture of [TS]

  a car just like when you set one up on your phone but it's different you can't [TS]

  just you don't just get the ones that you have in your past book on her phone [TS]

  so I knew I'd set up with the card and I went to the Apple store and I didn't [TS]

  know how to set it up and I remember from the event is something something [TS]

  about double clicking the button but I figured that was how you confirm it I [TS]

  thought it would be like the phone with the phone you just wave it and then it [TS]

  says okay you want to pay this and then you do the touch idea goes through so I [TS]

  figured I'll just wave my watch at that thing and it will come on and then I'll [TS]

  double tap that button and the clerk at the Apple store was like holy cow how [TS]

  did you get that you know it was you know I you know a little bit like a jerk [TS]

  and I wasn't trying to let you know if anything again the intervention me was [TS]

  trying to like you know let's keep us down I'm allowed to use it you know [TS]

  you're allowed to do it they want you to try but let's just keep it between us [TS]

  and you can tell everybody that somebody with a watch but at John I hate to cut [TS]

  you off right now but my puppy just pooped on the iPad please go over so [TS]

  proud of him every time I will be back in two seconds don't edit this out [TS]

  donated this after I was so great [TS]

  yeah it's it's a big moment when this happened that's it's actually really I [TS]

  don't want to say it to my house so here's but I think he did you know how [TS]

  can he be doing a few is only if he's only been with you a week how in the [TS]

  world is already being he's been in here he's been with us for like three days [TS]

  are possible I know and he's constantly going on the pattern we can take him [TS]

  outside yet concern when they're on the ground and there are very hard though [TS]

  some but this disease thing lives in the ground in New York City for dogs because [TS]

  there's so many dogs and is not fully vaccinated so we can't go outside I [TS]

  don't know about that yes so that's why it gotta go inside we don't want him we [TS]

  don't want to train the dog to go inside but we have to for the next five weeks [TS]

  because wow these shots that he can go outside [TS]

  that's where I had no idea you had to look at new york's because there's so [TS]

  many dogs everywhere it lives in the dog's poop and pee you know so that [TS]

  other dog sees it and eats it or not we announced anyway [TS]

  apple pear the Apple Store yeah so I figured it out [TS]

  well you know the clerk had the upper hand reader and with the phone you just [TS]

  put your phone up against theirs and then initiate and I'm waving my Apple [TS]

  watch against the thing and nothing is happening and I'm [TS]

  Mike and I really wanted to try this out and I guess I had tried not to think [TS]

  about I had tried it at Whole Foods before and it didn't wake up and I [TS]

  thought and it was a it was like you know the the right before dinner you [TS]

  know 630 7 o'clock rush and I didn't wanna hold the line so I thought I'll [TS]

  come back I'm here all the time so this time at the Apple store though I thought [TS]

  I gotta figure this out and that's why I ONLY by trial and error that I figure [TS]

  out you gotta do the double press first and then weigh that against it and you [TS]

  know I don't know if that's I'm not even sure what that thinking it I think that [TS]

  explanation is it lowers the battery life because in the NFC thing is only [TS]

  listening when you've double tapped where's your phone is always listening [TS]

  for an NFC connection I'm not quite sure maybe it's why I don't know but it is a [TS]

  little different but then once you know it isn't an often take authentication [TS]

  thing I said that word yeah maybe because because your phone you better [TS]

  hold down touch I D right and watch it's just a double tap and so this you know [TS]

  having to put it in that mode first decreases the chances someone could just [TS]

  sneak by your wrist and no doubt will pay you know connection once you know it [TS]

  it's a sense and I have to say it is I know it sounds so stupid and so lazy but [TS]

  it's even easier than paying with your phone I agree at first it is a little [TS]

  awkward cuz you're like holding your wrists in a certain way you know you're [TS]

  flipping your rest upside down but it's so brief and it's so quick it's I've [TS]

  actually found I think it's quicker than my iPhone can sometimes my phone has [TS]

  promised to touch idea now I don't know if it's just a couple you know now [TS]

  they've been using it so much it probably my son you know I think hundred [TS]

  times a day whatever that it that it seems faster than using my phone I mean [TS]

  also obviously not to pull out in front of that process is much faster as well [TS]

  yeah and part of it too is the tail end of the winter season on the east coast [TS]

  and so when I am out shopping I'm wearing coat and it's harder to get in [TS]

  my pocket to get the phone out etcetera etcetera so apple pays great I I think [TS]

  it's and I think it and it is absolutely positively a selling public selling [TS]

  point of [TS]

  thing where people see you doing it in public and then they want to buy an [TS]

  Apple I mean it it really is it sells and it's the silliest thing do you do it [TS]

  again if so many of the reviews early do you need it no of course you don't need [TS]

  any of the stuff you know you don't even need a watch to tell time you can get [TS]

  you know you get the time from your phone I mean you don't need there's not [TS]

  a single thing on it you need me at the wrong question to ask and apple pays [TS]

  right there you do not need a pay but is it nice and cool definitely right now I [TS]

  had that experience with that running thing I mean basically in that hole you [TS]

  know twenty or thirty minutes of that experience I was able to experience [TS]

  pretty much everything you can do without using your phone and that's you [TS]

  know yes more and more staff will become separate from the phone I think in [TS]

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  CAG 10% off so my thanks to Squarespace alright third party apps on Apple watch [TS]

  they suck it they're really really slow [TS]

  I actually wouldn't know never really waited for one of them to let I have you [TS]

  ever gotten to the load I got it to load I never got it so I got it to load one [TS]

  time and then didn't do anything and I talked to Neil idealize said he was [TS]

  getting into work one day but it didn't tell him which side of the building it [TS]

  thought he was on and the guy came to the you know the other side of the [TS]

  biggest the verge of the front entrance in the back entrance and the guy was [TS]

  waiting at the other side because it just you know where is using her phone [TS]

  it tells you exactly where it thinks it's gonna pick you up but everybody [TS]

  else I know it's like I i cant believe that they published the apt I know that [TS]

  they wanted apps in the App Store so that those of us with review units could [TS]

  have some to try but I can't believe the other one got through like nobody nobody [TS]

  gets it to work it just sits there ya blue and that actually is another thing [TS]

  I did when I was sitting at my watch it kind of took off pretty much on this all [TS]

  these apps cause I found my I hate the screen I hate that screen I can never [TS]

  accurately touch anything on here the digital crowd is really not very useful [TS]

  to me to be honest and so I just took off most of the apps on here that's an [TS]

  interesting it's an interesting complain and I feel the same way I feel like it [TS]

  is really hard to tap an individual icon in the weather its first party or third [TS]

  party whether it's one of Apple's or not I kind of wish that the defaults size [TS]

  for the icons would be a little bigger like you can zoom in and zoom out but [TS]

  when you're sort of their sort of -ism defaults eyes where it settles in that [TS]

  and I feel like it shows too many apps as opposed to showing fewer bigger apps [TS]

  to make them easier touch targets I i still if I delete ones why wouldn't you [TS]

  just become bigger you know as you delete these little icons they don't [TS]

  become bigger I just wish that as you zoom the crown that you could stop at a [TS]

  bigger spot and then it would seem as opposed to you you make him a little [TS]

  bigger and annually and you just go and let go and it just settles back totally [TS]

  agree totally agree [TS]

  yeah I can't help but think they're going to have to address this it's [TS]

  really it's it's just to finish it and it comes back to stuff that Apple even [TS]

  bragged about with the iPhone where where they measured you know optimal [TS]

  touch sizes for average fingertips and then you know knowing that the original [TS]

  iPhone was a hundred and sixty-three you know pixels per inch that means that the [TS]

  minimum you know touch sizes forty and you know two different buttons should be [TS]

  at least this far apart to avoid accidentally touching one when you meant [TS]

  the other and all those details of how many pixels it was and now with the [TS]

  retina screens at all in points which are double the size but you can just [TS]

  deal with them the same way you have to be a developer designer to care about [TS]

  the specific numbers but as a user all that meant was when you use an iPhone [TS]

  the thing you thought you were tapping was the thing you were tapping almost [TS]

  every time whereas on ya and I thought you know I thought this might be a [TS]

  reason to get the bigger screen but it sounds like I mean it also seems that if [TS]

  you have a bigger screen you got bigger fingers but those such targets aren't [TS]

  even any better on the big screen [TS]

  yeah I don't think so now that doesn't mean know that there isn't an easy way [TS]

  to launch some of these apps because one of the things that I don't think Apple [TS]

  is emphasized enough is that from the regular watch face if you have a [TS]

  complication up you can just tap it to go to that app so I always have the [TS]

  temperature up on all of the watch faces a used in a fight app the temperature [TS]

  from my watch face it jumps me to the weather app and it seems as though the [TS]

  touch target for that is it like the whole corner it's the whole corner of [TS]

  the display and it always works I don't miss it and I never tapped the wrong [TS]

  thing and get something else whereas from that that's how I get to my [TS]

  activity app I don't even know I don't even know if they're calling out the [TS]

  home screen I maybe they are but I don't even think of it as the home screen and [TS]

  I made it I one of the things you have to get used to is as an iPhone or iPad [TS]

  users you think of the home screen as the thing [TS]

  where you hit a button and you see all your apps and then you that your home [TS]

  screen to me the home screen on the watch is the watch face and you can [TS]

  figure that the way you want it with your most used things and you launch [TS]

  things there and the home screen on the watch that when you launch the app from [TS]

  hate to say it cause I think you know it to me it's like the Android all apps [TS]

  screen I was just thinking the same thing it really is it's the yet it's [TS]

  like I tap away that's what I don't like the digital crown I just feel like I [TS]

  wish I could map that button to be something else instead of going to the [TS]

  on your apps yes I don't know it's like I see why it's there and it's I just [TS]

  wish I could make them bigger and it is an interesting way to just say ok here [TS]

  is everything else i mean and that's the design of it the way they don't even [TS]

  organize them into pages I kinda like that I kinda like that you don't have to [TS]

  organize it I feel like Italy fiddling with the exact placement of which [TS]

  chapter on which screen on your iPhone can get old after time I kinda like that [TS]

  it's just this big lobby thing that you can go around I could actually see that [TS]

  even working on the iPhone at least as an option might be that everybody's [TS]

  muscle memory is so much that they can't just change it to be like that for [TS]

  everybody but as an option I might there might be an interesting way to do to get [TS]

  your apps on on an iPhone my favorite thing is like I just it it it makes me [TS]

  wonder like didn't like who do they think could when you hold down to delete [TS]

  an app you get the tiny little I mean like the video like this for people with [TS]

  really small doll thinkers like how are you supposed to delete that like you can [TS]

  you can hit it but it's your really holding your watch up close your face to [TS]

  delete this that's one of the features were you can do it both from the watch [TS]

  and from the on the phone and I kind of feel like maybe they should have made [TS]

  that just a [TS]

  a just a phone on me and there's other things to wear the top targets to me are [TS]

  are pretty good so like when you're picking a button like you're texting [TS]

  with somebody and you're like reply and then gives you a bunch of options to [TS]

  choose from like Yes No [TS]

  ok absolutely those are generously sized and I you know I don't find myself [TS]

  missing tapping on them I feel like they're big enough but these little app [TS]

  icons on that plunging screen to small aesthetically I see why they did it but [TS]

  it's why I really can't believe that it passed their own internal use and what [TS]

  the third party apps is this the way that they were going to go into [TS]

  technical details of it but they're they're not really absurd called watch [TS]

  kid extensions and you have to have that app on your phone it there's a real app [TS]

  on your phone for every one of them there's no such thing yet as a watch [TS]

  only the third party so it's running on your phone you can optionally for any [TS]

  app on your phone that has a watch cut extension you can choose whether it is [TS]

  there or not on your watch using the Apple watch out on your phone and if [TS]

  it's there it's there but then when you run it it doesn't really run on your [TS]

  phone it's not executing code on the CPU on the watch I mean it doesn't run on [TS]

  the watch it doesn't execute code on a watch it [TS]

  transmitted over Bluetooth to your phone and it executes on your phone and an IT [TS]

  projects these views on to your watch your watch more lessons sorta like a car [TS]

  play display except it's only an inch and it means everything has a little [TS]

  laggy it is super laggy to load its laggy to get data and it even like [TS]

  button pushes are like yeah and I'm not even just to meet the glass going to [TS]

  classes and even the glances like paging through the atlantis yeah because [TS]

  sometimes they're not loaded yet but I do you use the glasses I do use the [TS]

  glasses that's the other thing that I feel like keeps you from going to that [TS]

  app launching home screen is for the stuff that I do most frequently I just [TS]

  go to the [TS]

  pants yeah much heart rate and then the battery life yeah what about the now [TS]

  playing now playing is pretty cool yeah that's why I mean I guess when I'm [TS]

  running I had that I haven't really been using it to much so the now playing [TS]

  glantz i think is pretty cool so whatever your iPhone his plane whether [TS]

  it has a watch [TS]

  extension or not if it's playing audio on your phone to your headphones you can [TS]

  control you know play by play pause fast-forward from the watches in the [TS]

  glands yeah you need to go just go you did just dropping making just watching [TS]

  him it's a much better cuz I'm like I can't communicate with this dog houses [TS]

  like I have like a little bit of his brain ok you really want to do and you [TS]

  don't have my attention and i cant like respond back the bottom line is it [TS]

  doesn't make me not like the watch but it makes me question whether there [TS]

  should be third party apps for it at all yet [TS]

  yeah I mean I to be like that was a thought I had early on when I got this [TS]

  thing was I just could not believe how much Apple was trying to do with it in a [TS]

  first generation product certainly ambitious but it's just a lot and it's [TS]

  very confusing I mean it takes a little bit of time a couple of days to figure [TS]

  out how to use it I see I think confusing a slightly wrong cause [TS]

  confusing it to me it's disorienting it first [TS]

  whereas confusing to me implies that there's no logical layout to it to me [TS]

  it's like it's like you're in a well laid out building but it's a big enough [TS]

  building it's gonna take you a couple of days to figure out your way around but [TS]

  then once you do there's a sense to it I do think it's very logically designed in [TS]

  a good way but there's no question about that when you first rapid on your wrist [TS]

  it is disorienting and you're like how in the world do i turn this off and it's [TS]

  you know [TS]

  you spend half your time poking around your wrist in half hour time poking [TS]

  around though the watch on your phone and it's it's confusing well I just said [TS]

  confusing so maybe this confusing I do me the biggest source of confusion is [TS]

  the stuff that was on the phone to control the watch and what's on the [TS]

  watch itself that took me a long time and you kinda have to learn it on a [TS]

  case-by-case basis [TS]

  yeah yeah i know i mean it's funny it's like the companion app I did not talking [TS]

  talking about but it really that's what you've gotta live in the first couple of [TS]

  days when you're first setting this thing yes absolutely [TS]

  like it's you know I think it's going to stay on your first iPhone home screen [TS]

  but it's definitely should be on your first iPhone home screen when you're [TS]

  first setting its online yet it still is [TS]

  yeah there's other cool stuff though they do stuff and again I don't think [TS]

  notifications are huge reason for it I I know you know everybody I think I think [TS]

  some people it's a big deal but I think there's a reason why Apple is making [TS]

  that a flagship tent pole thing that they're not even talking about [TS]

  notifications it's the you know using it as a wide using it as a status indicator [TS]

  for things like the weather in your appointments and your fitness goals and [TS]

  stuff like that and then to me that just the glances where you're not using apps [TS]

  you just quickly seen something to me the primary points and then this [TS]

  communication stuff who knows we have to see how that goes and then and then the [TS]

  fitness stuff definitely but it's it's almost like a wholly separate product [TS]

  category right [TS]

  alright last but not least the new MacBook yes I probably got like 10 [TS]

  minutes so that's perfect I think we can cover quickly because it's to me and I i [TS]

  thought your review was a little harsh in a way that I feel like you you you [TS]

  were in the low down on an overall has a battery life isn't as good and living [TS]

  with one port is it seems early like in your whole gimmick of it that gimmick of [TS]

  your the conceit of your video is that it's it's a laptop from the future right [TS]

  out the ecosystem to support it i think it's you know I feel like what you [TS]

  underplayed is exactly how much it's the scenario is like the original MacBook [TS]

  Air which to me it's just it's just a replay of that right right except no I [TS]

  totally original MacBook Air was even more outrageously price if you know it [TS]

  was like it was like over $2000 [TS]

  true you know I came out looking at there's two ways of looking at it right [TS]

  one was the price for what you get and then there was how much does this thing [TS]

  push the boundaries of what we have right now and are currently tops so you [TS]

  know I was trying to look at it from both of those places on your right at [TS]

  the end like I came out a little bit harsh as I think for me there was [TS]

  nowhere was gonna get this thing and certainly there are there are definitely [TS]

  people I've heard from that said ok that's great it's not for you but I'm [TS]

  definitely getting one of the main reasons that I wanted it work for the [TS]

  reasons that have pushed ahead laptops like it's so incredibly beautiful this [TS]

  machine it just i mean I love the trackpad the keyboard is is nice but [TS]

  that's you know just between the trackpad on the screen I really want [TS]

  this thing and then they were all of these other things that when you looked [TS]

  at it in comparison to what you can get for the price for other laptops it just [TS]

  didn't measure up and it was this obviously this push and pull of the [TS]

  compromise situation which was the same with their Rancho Mac original air and [TS]

  you know both the performance of the battery life and that one port I just [TS]

  felt like that is not pushing something ahead and I like to eat your comment was [TS]

  you know in terms of looking at it in terms of comparing to the iPad but again [TS]

  when you think about the iPad your you take a performance hit doesn't have an [TS]

  Internet supposed to have the same performance as a laptop as as a computer [TS]

  right i mean obviously those lines are blurring as we forge into this [TS]

  interesting area of these devices being both but you take a big performance hit [TS]

  on this laptop and it's now I felt it I think the noticeable performance hit [TS]

  coming from the air and it's a noticeable one battery life now of [TS]

  course the battery life has different things right if you compare to the 11 [TS]

  inch air it's getting more battery life which is impressive but most people [TS]

  coming from a 13 inch air which is very portable for them has the power they [TS]

  need were used to all-day battery life and I just was not getting all-day [TS]

  battery life I used to use it for years and I cause I'm the sort if if I'm gonna [TS]

  go in one direction I like to go to the extreme from the lightest smallest [TS]

  laptop I want the light I wanted even smaller I want the 11 not the 13 but I [TS]

  think if you look at sales numbers and if you just sort of eyeball coffee shops [TS]

  the 13 edge is clearly the the main Apple the 13 inch air is the flagship [TS]

  Apple laptop like maybe flagship strong word but it's certainly the most common [TS]

  one and it's so therefore it's the baseline to compare everything against [TS]

  and I think it's fair to say therefore I think it's fair to say the new MacBook [TS]

  gets worse battery life even if it's better than the 11 cause I feel like [TS]

  it's it's a it's eventually going to replace the 13 as we gon I think that [TS]

  thing that the most a lot of people complaining about it what they really [TS]

  wanted I feel like is a ice water and health scenario like you can't just [TS]

  because you want it doesn't mean it's possible as I think what most people who [TS]

  are disappointed wanted was for Apple does just put retina screens in the [TS]

  MacBook Air that I love everything else about my hair all I want is a Retina [TS]

  screen [TS]

  why can't you just give me that keep my USB ports keep my MagSafe charger let me [TS]

  have a thunderbolt I dunno if you certainly if you plug this thing into a [TS]

  Thunderbolt Display you're screwed because the $80 adapter doesn't even [TS]

  have a wonderful and why can't you just give me that and I think the reason you [TS]

  can't you couldn't do that is that it clearly is Retina screen stick up so [TS]

  much more battery power that the hair form factor wouldn't work it had to be [TS]

  re-engineered right and I i would obviously love that product I would love [TS]

  that product and it's part of why I'm at this point considering getting a wrap up [TS]

  thirteen because actually the battery life has gotten better on that thirteen [TS]

  it has forced touch it as the Retina screen I actually think it's a bad [TS]

  laptop is it is a better by at some points now than the 13 inch air [TS]

  specially if you're not on a strict budget but to me it just it was a hard [TS]

  it's it's hard to recommend to people but it is an amazing feat of engineering [TS]

  it is a beautiful laptop and it's a pleasure to use when you are plugged [TS]

  into a wall and don't need anything else and for the people who are out there and [TS]

  I know that people like us like people who really put the machines are don't [TS]

  qualify for it but I think the real world there are a lot of people are like [TS]

  I've never plug anything into my Macbook and I've heard people who say like that [TS]

  they're you know yesterday I returned fire ball but my husband or my wife or [TS]

  whoever that they know their daughter or whatever their son never plugs anything [TS]

  and they're like well then it might be a great machine and and and that's where [TS]

  like people are saying well I don't need that power I don't need it [TS]

  well then that's great you're paying for this beautiful design and this beautiful [TS]

  screen but you're compromising the power and the battery life and that's fine but [TS]

  you're paying more money to get less I'll be less functionality [TS]

  the other thing last but not least is that one USB seaport and I know John [TS]

  Siracusa has [TS]

  teams are truly confounded by I'm not quite caught up on the accidental tech [TS]

  podcast as required this but I know he's gone over why not to why only one by one [TS]

  and i dont I cannot bring myself to believe that its engineering I cannot [TS]

  believe that they couldn't that that putting a second one in would decrease [TS]

  you know obviously we take some space and therefore take a little bit of the [TS]

  battery space way I just can't believe it would matter that much for something [TS]

  that clearly is a pretty small part I think it's a philosophical thing where [TS]

  they philosophically wanted to make it like the iPad where there's one port [TS]

  and the downfall of that though is that nobody has ever grown the habit of [TS]

  charging devices from their iPad and the iPad gets longer battery life too [TS]

  yeah I mean just just by the nature that have we use it right like I don't charge [TS]

  my ipod every day because I don't live on it every day I mean I charged every [TS]

  couple of days by my nightstand just cuz I like to have more power and no I don't [TS]

  have different people use USB ports for all sorts of different things I know [TS]

  photographers and cameras in there and they're all sorts of other things [TS]

  peripherals external hard drives for some people but I the one to me that [TS]

  Apple to me maybe is a little bit of denial with the one port on the MacBook [TS]

  is and you and I just talked about this half an hour ago as the need to charge [TS]

  your iPhone during the day and I know I've done it I've done it when I'm out [TS]

  of the house and working remotely that I don't even plug from the train and [TS]

  Amtrak if I guess I don't have a working AC adapter next to me or if i dont have [TS]

  the window seat and I don't want to reach across a stranger to plug in I [TS]

  just plugged my phone cuz I know that i'm gonna get home from to Philly from [TS]

  New York with plenty of battery life on my MacBook Pro I'll just borrow some of [TS]

  that and reduce my phone and if you're also charging your MacBook you can't do [TS]

  that right and there are sometimes I MacBooks already run down and you want [TS]

  to charge your phone and you need that second part just as a charter right you [TS]

  need this dongle basically you need this dongle to get by with using this one [TS]

  again it's like they should just bundle the doc which they're definitely not [TS]

  that every day when they tried to get it and the $80 price on that really plays [TS]

  into the worst of perceiving Apple because to me it's it's actually [TS]

  accurate is is there the richest company in the world and they're torn down and [TS]

  they're charging for plastic for $80 thing that is quite frankly ugly by [TS]

  necessity right [TS]

  takes gotta have to report it like you take [TS]

  taken disgraceful little tiny elegant USB seaport and turned it into this big [TS]

  white thing looks like you know like something they would hook up to you in a [TS]

  hospital with three ugly ports on it or to other ports and one more USB support [TS]

  right i mean i i guess i I should have looked at it a little bit closer to the [TS]

  iPad and that use case and I certainly think that is the way we are going and [TS]

  that's where I think like as we as this future of bombs like that is what our [TS]

  computers look like it's like all we need is a screen with a flat piece of [TS]

  keyboard and you know and actually it's very close to what out Microsoft been [TS]

  trying to do with the surface for a long time now but more and more when I review [TS]

  that surface or use that service and just wish it was a laptop so I really [TS]

  like the way they've gone with this you know what remains interesting to me or [TS]

  you know we don't know yet is what that I Pad Pro might look like and how did [TS]

  those are those any different than what we've seen with the MacBook but I think [TS]

  it's pretty clear where when something starts as a laptop and had some of that [TS]

  tablet functionality or we have that tablet that becomes that laptop where [TS]

  the sacrifices are in this case it just seems like we are making too many [TS]

  sacrifices to move in and I think for everybody like us and the people who [TS]

  listen to the show it is it's a device from the future it's a prototype from [TS]

  the future that's not ready for our day-to-day use but it will be and I [TS]

  think it's it's a clear bed from Apple that two or three years from now we are [TS]

  going to be using a laptop that really is just as much a little peripheral is [TS]

  the iPad is right I would I'd love about it is it means like there is this huge [TS]

  bright future for laptops or just devices that we can be highly productive [TS]

  on that don't work like this traditional computer or laptop we've we've know [TS]

  right I mean that's what the air was and that was such a huge step in the [TS]

  industry and this this is also gonna be huge step in the interests there's no [TS]

  way [TS]

  are not going to see a serious or Microsoft or some other PC manufacturer [TS]

  taking notes from this and trying to do something very similar great point thank [TS]

  you so much for your time [TS]

  amazing thank you so much for reviewing so many products in one week [TS]

  yeah never again I say never again but of course and getting a puppy in getting [TS]

  a new probably the worst mistake of it the homepage best place to read is w SJD [TS]

  dot com is that's the homepage for The Wall Street Journal digital team Joanna [TS]

  stern some of that I unbelievable timing because I would have wanted to have you [TS]

  want to talk about the MacBook I would have wanted you to have you on to talk [TS]

  about the Apple Logic I got to have you want to talk about both so I cannot [TS]

  thank you enough for your time [TS]

  yeah I know I love doing alright good luck with Diana find my own positive [TS]

  podcasts or something I just can't find the time it's surprising how hard it can [TS]

  be [TS]

  yeah good luck with the dog poop [TS]