The Incomparable

241: Shopping With Mrs. Gehrig


  the incomparable number 241 april twenty [TS]

  years to play ball [TS]

  welcome back everybody to be [TS]

  uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L it [TS]

  is time for another episode of old movie [TS]

  club or muvico full movie clips where we [TS]

  watch an old movie and then or two or [TS]

  three or five and then we talk about [TS]

  them and to celebrate baseball's opening [TS]

  week we have picked to baseball movies [TS]

  so let me introduce my panelists David [TS]

  lure hello hello Monty Ashley thanks for [TS]

  being here [TS]

  hello Erica and sign batter up I know [TS]

  how much you love somebody who loves [TS]

  baseball [TS]

  I what I am just excited to be here when [TS]

  we're talking about a movie that was [TS]

  made in my preferred area of moviemaking [TS]

  so I'm threat that's true that's true [TS]

  well said Steve let's uh who voices the [TS]

  old movie club theme song hello hello [TS]

  there [TS]

  play ball Jason voices is the term you [TS]

  use and here as always the man who picks [TS]

  the old movies on old movie club the old [TS]

  man who picks the old movies on old [TS]

  movie club it's phillip michael oh thank [TS]

  you i feel like i never left [TS]

  indeed so what do you what do you have [TS]

  for us to explain yourself so so as you [TS]

  mentioned it's it's baseball season at [TS]

  some point soon when Morgan this is [TS]

  about it is the opening week will yes [TS]

  yeah baseball season is about to start [TS]

  or just started depending on when you [TS]

  are listening or started a long time ago [TS]

  if you listen to this late [TS]

  some teams are probably playing in japan [TS]

  for some reason right now would be so it [TS]

  got me thinking hey there's been a lot [TS]

  of movies made about baseball over the [TS]

  years some of them not so good some of [TS]

  them okay [TS]

  some of them I I kind of enjoy and and I [TS]

  i picked a couple tonight 1a 1a [TS]

  controversial pick under the under the [TS]

  definition of old movie which we can get [TS]

  to later but the other a a bit of a [TS]

  classic in terms of in terms of when it [TS]

  was made and the approach that the [TS]

  filmmaker took with we're going to look [TS]

  at pride of the Yankees from the [TS]

  controversial pick under the definition [TS]

  of movie [TS]

  Wow [TS]

  I get into that later 1942 his pride of [TS]

  the yankees and 1976 'as the bad news [TS]

  bearers let's start off with pride of [TS]

  the Yankees might have made age before [TS]

  beauty [TS]

  I have lots of us about that 152 and [TS]

  wrote some things down [TS]

  well let me I i will quickly go through [TS]

  the plot since basically it is the [TS]

  biopic of lou gehrig uh perhaps the [TS]

  greatest first baseman to ever ever play [TS]

  the the grand game uh and as I think [TS]

  Jason pointed out in in [TS]

  hit it Twitter tonight it is the the [TS]

  life of lou gehrig in real time because [TS]

  i don't remember the movie being this [TS]

  slow i don't remember but it it goes on [TS]

  for a little shade over 2 hours and and [TS]

  it feels like two hours [TS]

  I didn't think so oh well you'll get a [TS]

  chance to to rebut are cruel arguments [TS]

  later [TS]

  um yeah let me quickly just go through [TS]

  the plot because they there's not a lot [TS]

  of twists and turns here Lou Gehrig's [TS]

  born Lou Gehrig's born luke air grows a [TS]

  playing baseball lou gehrig goes to [TS]

  Columbia he's really good at sports [TS]

  he signs with the Yankees the Yankees [TS]

  are a really good baseball team and [TS]

  largely because of lou gherig has a [TS]

  little bit of a friendly rivalry with [TS]

  Babe Ruth please himself in the movie [TS]

  lou gehrig meets a nice girl the the [TS]

  lovely Teresa Wright one of my favorite [TS]

  actresses lou gehrig wins many many many [TS]

  awards he has a newspaper man who is his [TS]

  best friend and you never leaves his [TS]

  side and which when i'm sure we will [TS]

  talk about good old Walter Brennan who [TS]

  plays said newspaper man but then Lou [TS]

  Gehrig gets gets sick you might have [TS]

  heard of it Lou Gehrig's disease what [TS]

  are the odds and he on yuh the movie [TS]

  ends with him [TS]

  spoiler alert the other guys at the end [TS]

  now he doesn't have the walks he walks [TS]

  off the set once often actually really [TS]

  the maybe you haven't if you haven't [TS]

  seen Lou Gehrig the the pride of the [TS]

  Yankees you you've probably seen the [TS]

  ending [TS]

  yes because when this gets shown a lot [TS]

  and for good reason it's the best part [TS]

  of the movie is the most i think the [TS]

  most emotionally resonant part but I'm [TS]

  sure we'll get to that later one of the [TS]

  reasons a I let me back up for a second [TS]

  that this is a genre of movie that was [TS]

  very popular in the nineteen thirties [TS]

  nineteen forties and little bit into the [TS]

  nineteen fifties that the baseball hero [TS]

  biopic and generally speaking they're [TS]

  not great movies they're kinda all cut [TS]

  from the same cloth where it's the way [TS]

  work hard and eat your vegetables Jimmy [TS]

  and you can grow up to be like me one of [TS]

  the ones that really stands out for me [TS]

  as just an example of how mediocre and [TS]

  middling these are is a movie called the [TS]

  winning team which stars on a fellow by [TS]

  the name of Ronald Reagan who went on to [TS]

  other things [TS]

  yeah never heard of anyone to act with a [TS]

  chimp yes but enough about George Bush [TS]

  is great and accuracy was a president [TS]

  but he plays Peter Alexander in this [TS]

  movie who was a bit notorious drunkard [TS]

  and that that aspect of its touched on [TS]

  briefly as i recall it's been years [TS]

  since I've seen this picture but not in [TS]

  not in to the extent that Peter [TS]

  Alexander actually was a very a very [TS]

  severe alcoholic and instead it's ronald [TS]

  reagan and doris day and it's keep [TS]

  trying and Peter Alexander you'll get [TS]

  there soon and it-it-it it's not a very [TS]

  good movie there are a bunch of others [TS]

  that we could mention that are not very [TS]

  good movies pride of the Yankees i think [TS]

  is ok um and I think it's largely okay [TS]

  based on the performances of Gary Cooper [TS]

  and and Teresa right which is why I [TS]

  kinda picked it i think it's a good [TS]

  example of the best you can kind of hope [TS]

  for in a [TS]

  no a pre nineteen fifties baseball movie [TS]

  where this will certainly be the most [TS]

  earnest movie we ever picture for old [TS]

  movie club there is no winks or nods to [TS]

  the audience no hints at the darkness [TS]

  that lurks in every man's heart that [TS]

  this is just a straightforward [TS]

  old-fashioned let's put on a show [TS]

  and-and-and make the people leave with [TS]

  the maybe a tear in their eye but also a [TS]

  song in their heart about about what a [TS]

  great guy who Gehrig was and it's [TS]

  enjoyable you would've been more [TS]

  enjoyable if it were better paste i [TS]

  think but don't feel the word you're [TS]

  looking for is hagiography this is an [TS]

  elevation to godhood of the great Lou [TS]

  Gehrig yes awesome [TS]

  he was in all of the weight in every [TS]

  aspect of life you know I think a lot of [TS]

  the reason for that can be explained by [TS]

  the fact that this was 1942 you just [TS]

  mind as you read the oh he died later I [TS]

  year previously here a year before [TS]

  you're in a month in fact one of the [TS]

  baseball players that you know but the [TS]

  the live baseball players that they [TS]

  pulled in to be actors in this film was [TS]

  still active at the time right bill [TS]

  Dickey right bill Dickey yeah also a [TS]

  Hall of Fame baseball player but but [TS]

  yeah but the fact that it's 1942 and if [TS]

  you read the opening scroll it reads [TS]

  like hey young soldiers off to war die [TS]

  with dignity like lou gehrig yes indeed [TS]

  the one of the rare films that is that [TS]

  is that begins with a crawl written by a [TS]

  writer just not connected with the the [TS]

  story in any way [TS]

  Damon Runyon was a sports writer and a [TS]

  big big baseball cock and up that that [TS]

  is the most mundane damon runyon thing [TS]

  ever written he he's the author whose [TS]

  stories returned into guys and dolls of [TS]

  basically and and he you know it yet [TS]

  there's a streak of cynicism and his [TS]

  work that is not evident that crawl at [TS]

  their own the movie people in this world [TS]

  cynicism does not even exist [TS]

  no oh no well yes it does in the form of [TS]

  the evil of the evil reporter who is [TS]

  your friend actually throttles at one [TS]

  point another who is apparently a [TS]

  stand-in for Ford Frick who became the [TS]

  Commissioner of baseball [TS]

  that's another story what so altogether [TS]

  uh a confession i also picked this movie [TS]

  because it features two characters who [TS]

  were just I think monstrous and I really [TS]

  wanted to be honest this this with this [TS]

  one was for you Steve I'm gonna [TS]

  disappoint you i think phil the Walter [TS]

  Brennan character who is based on a real [TS]

  sports writer named friendly but and is [TS]

  a composite here but it's mostly [TS]

  friendly it was very good friends with [TS]

  lou gehrig and in this movie has I said [TS]

  never leaves Lou Gehrig's I lou gehrig [TS]

  is on the beach canoodling with his wife [TS]

  i have had Walter Brennan pops into the [TS]

  picture hey you how you doing here comes [TS]

  better but it's do yeah can you imagine [TS]

  a baseball player today going to the [TS]

  doctor to get his results and [TS]

  voluntarily bringing a reporter into the [TS]

  room and keep it out of the papers ok [TS]

  yes i will the reporter doing the whole [TS]

  we're gonna we're gonna cover this up [TS]

  no one's gonna find out the truth here [TS]

  and but yes so there's the Walter [TS]

  Brennan character and then the other [TS]

  great monster of history that is [TS]

  featured in this movie is mama Garrick [TS]

  oh yeah man yeah she was the only way to [TS]

  put any drama into the movie before the [TS]

  end so they just made her the worst [TS]

  person in the world [TS]

  yeah I i have a phrase in so we're sort [TS]

  of hopping around here i want my notes [TS]

  about about mrs. Gehrig what she has a [TS]

  great line where there is that series of [TS]

  scenes where she goes shopping with mrs. [TS]

  Geary which is not a thing you want to [TS]

  do and no improvement with mrs. Geary [TS]

  and at one point as they're putting up [TS]

  the wallpaper that she's just bought [TS]

  separately from what everybody else [TS]

  expressed as the wallpaper that they [TS]

  wanted in her son and his new wife's [TS]

  bedroom she says oh this is much better [TS]

  this is more practical wallpaper that me [TS]

  laugh out more practical wallpaper [TS]

  pattern [TS]

  ok and what you don't want that MC [TS]

  Escher wallpaper or that all paper that [TS]

  get put in non-euclidean angles and [TS]

  drives men bad it's simple but the issue [TS]

  wallpaper you might actually walk out [TS]

  the window or try to [TS]

  door to get a breeze or even among Derek [TS]

  is up [TS]

  yes she'sshe's problematic she is the [TS]

  key is the silent villain of this movie [TS]

  and men in many aspects you know they [TS]

  try and make a heel out of the out of [TS]

  the snide cynical reporter who's babe [TS]

  ruth's best buddy and who mocks lou [TS]

  gehrig every turn until of course lou [TS]

  gehrig is is is is sick and old but [TS]

  there's a Seltzer fight at one point [TS]

  there in their series of there is a [TS]

  Seltzer fight yes but it if you ask me I [TS]

  i really think mama Gehrig is this movie [TS]

  is true monster I can't get mad at the [TS]

  bad reporter because if you had your [TS]

  choice to follow lou gehrig around and [TS]

  get every story he feed you or follow [TS]

  babe ruth around and get every story he [TS]

  feeds you [TS]

  you're gonna get a lot more material out [TS]

  of paper and Alicia roof stuff is [TS]

  unprintable well you can do that thing [TS]

  about how we 815 hotdogs between its [TS]

  dripping [TS]

  that's right based on the evidence of [TS]

  this movie Lou Gehrig never did anything [TS]

  now [TS]

  well he went to come on a lot of awards [TS]

  and we played baseball [TS]

  yeah he was a great baseball player but [TS]

  you don't get the scoop to do to find [TS]

  that out any beat up a guy in this [TS]

  fraternity there was that [TS]

  yeah I died by flying across the day [TS]

  controversy and he was the apparently [TS]

  the oldest freshman at Columbia you here [TS]

  so get okay you just brought up several [TS]

  things that i want to talk about one of [TS]

  them is is that the challenge of a [TS]

  portraying a life that is fine [TS]

  yes again I like that they're so the [TS]

  relationship is his marriage is nice and [TS]

  they have a good thing they never let [TS]

  the honeymoon and right they say that at [TS]

  one point and at one point in my notes I [TS]

  say lou and his wife sure do have fun [TS]

  they wrestle with flowers and stuff and [TS]

  what is that wacky rose throwing fight [TS]

  seem forced oh man right it comes off [TS]

  like that snowball fight in Groundhog [TS]

  Day too many it's a challenge i mean [TS]

  again you don't have to have I mean most [TS]

  most marriages do not have movie level [TS]

  drama but they don't try to make movies [TS]

  out of those marriages and the this one [TS]

  there's a movie and they're just every [TS]

  time we see them it's like Oh [TS]

  they're nice it's fine that that's why [TS]

  mama gary i think is such a monster is [TS]

  because they gotta do something to [TS]

  complicate their their domestic life and [TS]

  it is the monstrous mother-in-law Lucas [TS]

  I didn't actually like i didn't i didn't [TS]

  actually I love to Risa right but I [TS]

  didn't like that character very much at [TS]

  all at the beginning because you that [TS]

  you can go through your hood [TS]

  not that I mean that's just big deal but [TS]

  Lou Gehrig is this he's just kind of a [TS]

  big sweet dumb dope and she at every [TS]

  turn is making fun of him and teasing [TS]

  him in kind of a not very nice way at [TS]

  the beginning she kind of gets over it a [TS]

  little bit but I don't know it seems [TS]

  like she does and then later she does it [TS]

  to Walter Brennan two tries to make him [TS]

  think that that lose cheating on her as [TS]

  well you can make sure that your [TS]

  president she gets her kicks from some [TS]

  bad some twisted start but again I don't [TS]

  like this girl you know that dude was [TS]

  hanging around your house and your and [TS]

  your beach trips all the time you [TS]

  probably would do something similar just [TS]

  he should know better than to think ill [TS]

  of st. Loup india soon as you know what [TS]

  moving he's in for pizza so i would so I [TS]

  think that's a problem I think there's a [TS]

  challenge you just that Lou Gehrig is a [TS]

  nice fellow and has a head has a good [TS]

  marriage and his his downfall is not [TS]

  because this doesn't follow drama arc it [TS]

  follows life our kids his his downfall [TS]

  is that he gets a terrible disease and [TS]

  dies [TS]

  yeah the general structure of the movies [TS]

  weird for me because for most of the [TS]

  movie nothing bad happens to lose yeah [TS]

  he's born he's a great baseball player [TS]

  gets to go to college [TS]

  gets to be on the Yankees wins a whole [TS]

  bunch of championships with a bunch of [TS]

  many titles because he is the best first [TS]

  baseman to ever play the game has a [TS]

  great marriage so you're thinking [TS]

  nothing bad ever happens to this guy [TS]

  then the worst possible thing happens to [TS]

  this guy and movies over [TS]

  I i think if you were going to remake [TS]

  this movie the subject matter of the lou [TS]

  gehrig story is his indie and and that's [TS]

  why I think that the ending of the movie [TS]

  is probably what works best for me [TS]

  although I I i find Teresa Wright [TS]

  charming in this movie so that I didn't [TS]

  have quite the problem with their their [TS]

  relationship that you guys are having [TS]

  but obviously the last 15 minutes of the [TS]

  movie is is what should have been your [TS]

  move [TS]

  yes and the real the real problem with [TS]

  that is is the ratio because this is a [TS]

  two-hour eight-minute movie [TS]

  yep and 15 minutes of that is sad [TS]

  Lou Gehrig is dying and the rest of it [TS]

  is all stuff happens to lou gehrig but [TS]

  nothing bad ever happens to leave here [TS]

  it's the human drama part of it too [TS]

  because what when he gets diagnosed [TS]

  there there is that scene which yeah [TS]

  it's hokey but it hints at the true [TS]

  human story here which is you is it [TS]

  three strikes doc that I never argue [TS]

  with an umpire that and and don't tell [TS]

  my wife she must know and she's like I [TS]

  knew it the moment I came in and she [TS]

  cries and all that's good but then we go [TS]

  we switch from that to the the day of [TS]

  the fair well which is again it [TS]

  basically in real time it has all the [TS]

  drama of a pregame ceremony at a [TS]

  baseball game which is this a nun [TS]

  I you are you saying that you weren't [TS]

  impressed with the postmaster-general [TS]

  doesn't want to see me the radio and the [TS]

  radio announcer describing what's [TS]

  happening like it's a horse race and now [TS]

  the Postmaster General is gonna be [TS]

  shaking his hand now we moved away that [TS]

  I mean his speech is good but but but in [TS]

  the gap there is what this movie or or [TS]

  at least if you were telling the story [TS]

  today how you would tell it which is it [TS]

  is this human tragedy of this person who [TS]

  is the best at has had a good life and [TS]

  is the best at what he does and now has [TS]

  gotten this terrible disease and it [TS]

  struck down in this physical prime [TS]

  exactly yeah and yeah it's just sort of [TS]

  like I got a bad break a and then and [TS]

  then he falls off of a chair and is [TS]

  suddenly a terrible player and and then [TS]

  he says I quit and gives us gives a [TS]

  heart-rending speech and walks out and [TS]

  that's the end of the movie and you're [TS]

  missing you know I think I there's only [TS]

  the hint of the human drama that [TS]

  happened behind the scenes which I [TS]

  understand for a movie that was made [TS]

  1942 was made right after his death it's [TS]

  just now looking at you think you missed [TS]

  you missed the most important part or [TS]

  you or if you didn't miss it you only [TS]

  showed us a glimmer of it at the very [TS]

  end of two hours but even at the time [TS]

  you think you can assume that people [TS]

  know how good Lou Gehrig is right you [TS]

  don't need to spend that hour of the [TS]

  movie showing his baseball career [TS]

  well there's also the the idea that you [TS]

  know if if we're making this now for [TS]

  making aloo Gary [TS]

  now we're not having to cooperate with [TS]

  what if anyone who knew him yes [TS]

  and where is back then it's all you know [TS]

  all the can't do what I watch like that [TS]

  if you happy what Eleanor Garrett was [TS]

  very involved in any in signing off on [TS]

  this movie and it yet i mean the the [TS]

  doctor scene is pretty much the opposite [TS]

  of what really happened you know they [TS]

  they sort of made it Rosie for him [TS]

  because his wife didn't want him to be [TS]

  depressed for four years and so it's [TS]

  like well you know you might need a cane [TS]

  for 10 to 15 years and you know it's [TS]

  going to be okay you know you'll fight [TS]

  it and and his final speech is yeah it's [TS]

  mostly paraphrasing and using the same [TS]

  things but in real life he ended with [TS]

  you know I feel like the luckiest man in [TS]

  baseball you know but you know I have a [TS]

  lot left to live for [TS]

  yeah which you couldn't really into it [TS]

  you know at that point you can't do that [TS]

  in the movie because well we know [TS]

  yeah i think i would have been more [TS]

  poignant actually if they had kept that [TS]

  line and that was what am i if I have a [TS]

  criticism of of of of how they truncated [TS]

  that speech that would be at that's [TS]

  because that's the that's the the the [TS]

  dagger as it were [TS]

  yeah now about managers coming out of [TS]

  the dugout and it looks like he's going [TS]

  to be making a pitching change going for [TS]

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  looks like the pictures warmed up let's [TS]

  get back to the game I would like to [TS]

  make a specific criticism of this movie [TS]

  which is that it does not need a musical [TS]

  interlude in the middle [TS]

  yeah she does it was made in the 1940s [TS]

  ya know but I i deferred Erica here [TS]

  Erica is quite correct i had had a [TS]

  stopping and explain this to Stephen [TS]

  little movies using what is going on [TS]

  what are they doing and I was like honey [TS]

  you see this is 1942 it was just [TS]

  expected every film had this and this [TS]

  was at the point where the woman hadn't [TS]

  started singing it was just dancing and [TS]

  I was like you know I said you know [TS]

  usually it's somebody singing a song in [TS]

  a club like this while the main [TS]

  characters are sitting at a table [TS]

  watching but you know in some cases the [TS]

  dance with band and then somebody [TS]

  started singing and I was like see see [TS]

  that's entertainment [TS]

  that's the hit song from pride of the [TS]

  Yankees I like it when the film noir [TS]

  suddenly has some hot jazz but here [TS]

  especially for a two-hour movie seemed [TS]

  kind of irrelevant [TS]

  well as a blank even has a musical [TS]

  number but come on his flaws in Yolanda [TS]

  there is nothing irrelevant about veloz [TS]

  and Yolanda or not a noble and his as [TS]

  you know based on the fact that they are [TS]

  in the first set of title cards [TS]

  yes strongly they were a pretty big deal [TS]

  in 1942 that was a good get crushes [TS]

  that was that was about bizarre scene [TS]

  but I was and I was just like how well [TS]

  you know it isn't i'm already that you [TS]

  wanted to [TS]

  yeah it's the variety show portion of [TS]

  the program and the previous scene we [TS]

  learned though is another musical note [TS]

  in a previously when they're at the [TS]

  carnival in Chicago it turns out that [TS]

  all the Calliope xin Chicago just play [TS]

  that toddlin town over and over and over [TS]

  again to tell you that you're in chicago [TS]

  entire night I think modern-day movies [TS]

  would be better if they had a mandatory [TS]

  musical number interested in there for [TS]

  no reason like imitation game there'd be [TS]

  a little song and dance [TS]

  well that that's some movies do the [TS]

  tobey maguire spider-man has the [TS]

  inexplicable macy gray musical member in [TS]

  the middle of it before the Green Goblin [TS]

  kill some people wonder why is that in [TS]

  it there's that rave scene in one of [TS]

  those matrix sequels [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah I did really enjoy every [TS]

  step seen that babe ruth was in i might [TS]

  think babe ruth is really great at [TS]

  playing babe ruth I enjoy the most [TS]

  really very well captain method acting [TS]

  he seemed to like being on screen he [TS]

  does not come off very well in this [TS]

  movie though everything about it but [TS]

  little bit it's interesting you know if [TS]

  he shows up in the children's hospital [TS]

  room scene where you know Little Billy [TS]

  is is crippled and you know he's [TS]

  promising him a home run and you know [TS]

  all the scenes with Babe Ruth is him oh [TS]

  and here's another picture get another [TS]

  picture Kid and then he said I'll get [TS]

  you home runs and walks out and and it's [TS]

  amazing to me that he agreed to do that [TS]

  the kid knows to get a better offer [TS]

  immediately by the way it's a yes about [TS]

  hitting 240 babes that one gets good who [TS]

  comes in next me ask for three [TS]

  I don't think it is best to ruin the [TS]

  Yankees chance he did he did because he [TS]

  turned the entire thing into a home run [TS]

  hitting contest because as this movie [TS]

  portrays baseball is nothing but a bunch [TS]

  of people trying to hit home runs [TS]

  well as you know from watching any [TS]

  baseball movie taking an intentional [TS]

  walk is the height of stupidity and got [TS]

  a swing at those balls kids [TS]

  yeah the radio announcers like he can't [TS]

  get the second home run for that kid [TS]

  it's the World Series the entire season [TS]

  has led up to this and the radio [TS]

  announcer is saying Gehrig I don't know [TS]

  this could be a failure he's only hit [TS]

  one home run in this world series game [TS]

  Kenny hit a second home run for that kid [TS]

  you see Jason back then they didn't [TS]

  understand the importance of on base [TS]

  to jest indeed what is that if i may [TS]

  interrupt with some baseball nerdery [TS]

  baseball-reference dot-com is the worst [TS]

  thing that ever existed for movies like [TS]

  this because you can go look up the box [TS]

  why didn't you got that too and there is [TS]

  a game where Lou Gehrig hit two home [TS]

  runs against the cookie Bruce didn't hit [TS]

  home but I everybody get one at all any [TS]

  lost that World Series no no they want [TS]

  that one I think [TS]

  no I think that's the one they lost in [TS]

  seven games oh I thought this was the [TS]

  the 20-city the now I think this was the [TS]

  one that was when I'm 20-hour we're [TS]

  going to leave that's it this otherwise [TS]

  delightful film is now ruined the guys [TS]

  in 1942 would prefer that you call them [TS]

  Wallops good point good point [TS]

  I you know I may have I may be confusing [TS]

  my dates i think this was one that they [TS]

  actually won but a regard we gotta st [TS]

  what says obviously this is the thing [TS]

  that totally destroys pride of the [TS]

  yankees and renders it one of the worst [TS]

  movies in history [TS]

  call me ASAP but Little Billy smiling in [TS]

  his hospital bed with tears dripping [TS]

  dripping down his face totally works on [TS]

  home [TS]

  I don't know when he shows up later [TS]

  shape you it's me Billy see I didn't [TS]

  like I didn't like Little Billy because [TS]

  he looks like a tiny freaky-looking [TS]

  steve buscemi I just couldn't get past [TS]

  that freaky-looking steve buscemi really [TS]

  I i will i will point out on the Babe [TS]

  Ruth story starring William Bendix pulls [TS]

  a similar trick where baby visits a kid [TS]

  in the hospital and says hitting a home [TS]

  run baby and babe of course just the [TS]

  call shot right again yeah i think so i [TS]

  can't remember if it's that exact home [TS]

  run but hits the homerun for the kid and [TS]

  then years later when babe ruth is dying [TS]

  of cancer [TS]

  the kid turns out to be as oncologist oh [TS]

  wow [TS]

  at the end of the movement of the [TS]

  transfer and theirs and theirs are light [TS]

  and there's a choir of children outside [TS]

  singing take me out to the ballgame like [TS]

  a team and that that by the way is you [TS]

  got off light with pride of the Yankees [TS]

  security there's so much space me out to [TS]

  the ballgame in this movie two minutes [TS]

  in my mic I i'm tired of take me as a [TS]

  moment when it continues to follow a bit [TS]

  with Billy though it doesn't work for me [TS]

  because gary is so I bulgaria Cooper I [TS]

  guess it's just so awkward in that scene [TS]

  the end and that highlight something [TS]

  that's that's kind of my one of my [TS]

  bigger problems with this movie [TS]

  together which is that they portray lou [TS]

  gehrig as really really socially inept I [TS]

  mean it's almost excruciating yeah it's [TS]

  it's almost like he has Asperger's or [TS]

  something the way yeah it's I think that [TS]

  sort of gary cooper young remember from [TS]

  another I you love ya an earlier movie [TS]

  that we liked him a lot but he's a stiff [TS]

  he has a stiff guy and I like his [TS]

  performance in this movie i I'm I'm [TS]

  willing to overlook the fact that when [TS]

  he's young and in his prime Gary [TS]

  Cooper's the exact wrong person to play [TS]

  it but he does a really good job with [TS]

  the older lou gehrig I really think he [TS]

  acts very well in the scene where he [TS]

  realizes that his body isn't responding [TS]

  anymore and he manages to get a look of [TS]

  panic across his face that I I just [TS]

  think it's so very natural and and how [TS]

  someone of his physicality would react [TS]

  in that situation right body morning he [TS]

  just bodies training in the locker room [TS]

  and they always just kind of absolutely [TS]

  terrified afterwards even though [TS]

  everybody is playing it off like they [TS]

  didn't see it that's a great scene [TS]

  yes but it's to your point I will [TS]

  concede the fact that whatever he is [TS]

  forced to act with a human being is not [TS]

  choice right it it is like well [TS]

  lose-lose got a bit of the tub specialty [TS]

  usual on solution especially when he's [TS]

  acting with his his mother the scene [TS]

  where she's just yelling at him because [TS]

  he has lied to her about going to [TS]

  Harvard Harvard yeah he's just he's got [TS]

  this weirdly detached grin on his face [TS]

  that may be very uncomfortable if he [TS]

  were to take her seriously she's [TS]

  screaming i wish i had died because he [TS]

  isn't an engineer and Lady you are a [TS]

  horrible horrible but really really one [TS]

  of history's worst monster I didn't [TS]

  stress that enough but I was totally [TS]

  unaware that being in a frat was a [TS]

  stepping stone on the road to [TS]

  engineering every single engineer i have [TS]

  ever known has done it completely wrong [TS]

  well don't be so here the things you [TS]

  didn't know about fraternities back in [TS]

  New garrix time right and this goes this [TS]

  piece of the age problem in this movie [TS]

  which is a they show that fraternity and [TS]

  I think why are there those the the [TS]

  champions of industry [TS]

  maybe these men in suits in the in the [TS]

  fraternity house because they all look [TS]

  like they're 30 at least at least Gary [TS]

  Cooper is 41 playing be kid it hit the [TS]

  plate some 120 years his junior yeah [TS]

  yeah the girl that he meets is Myra [TS]

  sheet that actresses is in her early [TS]

  twenties at least but so many of those [TS]

  frat boys there are frat boys in the [TS]

  background who are young looking but [TS]

  then the main ones all seem like they're [TS]

  40 i think to make Gary Cooper well they [TS]

  yeah they do that throughout the movie [TS]

  because all the Yankees have receding [TS]

  hairlines yeah everybody's just way [TS]

  older than that they should be but it's [TS]

  weird because babe ruth is playing [TS]

  himself 20 years earlier yeah mhm yeah [TS]

  it wasn't that fat then so that is that [TS]

  is that is weird [TS]

  um maybe I i do like they have the guy [TS]

  who is the exemplar of classes and was [TS]

  like well you could let him in but don't [TS]

  expect me to call him brother which is [TS]

  sort of like that is Dax lets his heart [TS]

  yeah that's as hardscrabble upbringing [TS]

  that he's not respected as a son of the [TS]

  the lady who is the the cook and also is [TS]

  the son of a son of immigrants and he's [TS]

  distracting to me because he looks like [TS]

  one-third of andy richter but it is nice [TS]

  to see him get his comeuppance she does [TS]

  enjoy seeing him tackled he doesn't [TS]

  there's a ramen and then he tells off [TS]

  the Yankee Scouts who comes to look for [TS]

  it was just so mad at that point I just [TS]

  wanna go through the door through the [TS]

  window [TS]

  I I know I know Phil we talked about how [TS]

  baseball reference's the worst thing [TS]

  ever because you immediately if you're [TS]

  in baseball there like like you and me [TS]

  you look up the world series they played [TS]

  against the cardinals in there there [TS]

  were two and one of many one of the [TS]

  middle austin yeah i did that did this [TS]

  happen and they hit the home runs and [TS]

  that's totally not true i had a few [TS]

  other moments like that like uh when he [TS]

  want wally pip pip has a terrible [TS]

  blinking problem that have to take him [TS]

  out because you're seeing double from [TS]

  when he got hit my head the other day [TS]

  and Gehrig is inserted at that point and [TS]

  then has hit in the head by a ball in [TS]

  the same game this is like weeks or [TS]

  months of time that has been compressed [TS]

  lou gehrig was on the Yankees for a [TS]

  couple years before you or at least for [TS]

  a year before he took wally pip spot in [TS]

  the middle of the season so that's not [TS]

  really an displayed sporadic [TS]

  I need and it wasn't his first at-bat in [TS]

  this is like Gary get in there is like [TS]

  Oh me okay [TS]

  like he's never played before and I [TS]

  think throughout the movie they seem to [TS]

  misunderstand the idea that Lou Gehrig [TS]

  for the consecutive games record did not [TS]

  have to play every inning [TS]

  yeah and when they take him out it's [TS]

  like oh my god it's an amazing moment [TS]

  Lou Gehrig's coming out this is the end [TS]

  of the streets like know he could come [TS]

  out at any point it's the next day when [TS]

  he doesn't play that it's the end of the [TS]

  streak [TS]

  it's very strange that was weird and I [TS]

  also thought it was weird for as much as [TS]

  this movie praises lou gehrig I felt [TS]

  they could have made a bigger deal about [TS]

  how he was incredibly good at baseball [TS]

  yeah that's true because i didn't get [TS]

  that impression he was the best first [TS]

  baseman in the history of the game ever [TS]

  yeah nobody who knows i know nothing [TS]

  about baseball I mean I know so much [TS]

  nothing about baseball that up until [TS]

  like a year and a half ago I thought the [TS]

  Dodgers were still in Brooklyn because [TS]

  my only experience with them they're [TS]

  from movies from the forties let me tell [TS]

  you about this thing called the [TS]

  designated hitter role Erica and said [TS]

  dude hello your biology he is not only [TS]

  the best first baseman ever probably by [TS]

  most accounts but certainly top 20 and [TS]

  maybe top 15 best players of all time [TS]

  yeah yeah they didn't show that they [TS]

  just showed him hitting the ball [TS]

  everyone because it because in this [TS]

  movie it's a home run hitting contest [TS]

  but they're not well that the elephant [TS]

  in the room here is that Gary Cooper for [TS]

  being strapping individual was not a [TS]

  very athletic individual and he was [TS]

  right-handed and left-handed which lou [TS]

  gehrig was and so showing him actually [TS]

  trying to perform the sport of baseball [TS]

  who was not a good thing that said he is [TS]

  not this is not the worst betrayal of an [TS]

  e an actor trying to portray an athlete [TS]

  and in certainly a baseball movie that [TS]

  honor goes to tony Perkins in the movie [TS]

  fear strikers Alex out where he plays [TS]

  jimmy piersall and it and it's actually [TS]

  a pretty good movie for its time about [TS]

  mental illness jimmy piersall had spent [TS]

  actually time and uh what was in those [TS]

  days known as an asylum because he he [TS]

  just cracked under pressure but the [TS]

  scenes where a tony Perkins is forced [TS]

  do athletic endeavors you sit there [TS]

  watching party went mad if he's been [TS]

  running like that it's just such a weird [TS]

  way for this this movie to be plotted [TS]

  for a baseball movie you expect you know [TS]

  when the the whole tanglefoot he trips [TS]

  on the bats kind of thing happens you're [TS]

  going to be paid off with a scene of him [TS]

  hitting like a gigantic home run and [TS]

  everybody shares wow maybe we were wrong [TS]

  about this chump and that just never [TS]

  happens you know he's a chump basically [TS]

  and suddenly and all these awards this [TS]

  by the way this movie is montage happy [TS]

  no it is somebody from the eighties I [TS]

  love I was like hey but i just don't [TS]

  understand best investing and monetize [TS]

  ever i think is the scene where at about [TS]

  an hour and 40 minutes in we get the [TS]

  scrapbook scene where it goes my [TS]

  community get off at some point in this [TS]

  film to CBU things that have transpired [TS]

  I I that moment where I thought why is [TS]

  she why she was why are we spending so [TS]

  much time the scrapbook and then I [TS]

  realized that then at the end of that [TS]

  scene she starts looking the pages and [TS]

  we move forward in time because that's [TS]

  how you learn miller huggins is dying [TS]

  yeah we're gonna we're gonna move to his [TS]

  did to lose death now so we're done with [TS]

  this the rest of this stuff suffice to [TS]

  say he had a great career one of the [TS]

  best ever and now we'll move on to the [TS]

  end [TS]

  suffice it to say we sure as hell are [TS]

  going to show it to you nope i had left [TS]

  earlier there's a montage that I enjoy [TS]

  because of the technique involved [TS]

  because it's showing that he played [TS]

  baseball which again probably wait what [TS]

  I think my favorite my favorite of all [TS]

  of the montages I mean it's a once again [TS]

  talking about movies movies from the [TS]

  forties you get a lot of the sort of [TS]

  montages of of headlines or you know the [TS]

  the light up names outside of bars if [TS]

  somebody's going on a bender that sort [TS]

  of thing [TS]

  and here i like the fact that they [TS]

  didn't repeat themselves any of the [TS]

  times they did it so the first time you [TS]

  get headlines the second time you get a [TS]

  bunch of flags the third time you get a [TS]

  lot of jerseys and then at the end it's [TS]

  a scrapbook so i have to give props to [TS]

  the movie for for thinking up new ways [TS]

  to do it every time I enjoy the jersey [TS]

  montage that the way the journey jersey [TS]

  montage work was Stadium jersey of of of [TS]

  other team crowd shot railroad tracks [TS]

  like that because it's cool to see the [TS]

  old stadiums dont't on [TS]

  that's playing in the back yeah its head [TS]

  and of course if it hadn't been so long [TS]

  they wouldn't have had to think of so [TS]

  many different ways to do montages but [TS]

  that one man's life where you instantly [TS]

  structure this like a regular sports [TS]

  movie because until the very end at no [TS]

  point is he an underdog [TS]

  that's right now it's true he's on the [TS]

  1927 Yankees in the nineteen [TS]

  thirty-eight years what do you do with [TS]

  that I feel like they could have taken [TS]

  the wally pip story and made that a [TS]

  little bit more where he's like learning [TS]

  from pip and he's he's you know [TS]

  pinch-hitting and he's going to you know [TS]

  get back to the minors and coming back [TS]

  up and trying to learn and then he has [TS]

  his moment but instead it's like Wally [TS]

  PIPP he comes to the team's you should [TS]

  watch Wally PIPP and then wally pip [TS]

  blinks a lot and says I gotta come out [TS]

  and said it couldn't let go about and [TS]

  you accept all about pip because that [TS]

  Wally PIPP thing is that it i mean [TS]

  that's a legendary story that the guy is [TS]

  the first baseman for the Yankees four [TS]

  years and then he one day because he's [TS]

  got this problem because I got hit mad [TS]

  he sits down he never gets his job back [TS]

  because Lou Gehrig takes because he's [TS]

  that good but but that drama is kind of [TS]

  missing here other than I mean literally [TS]

  is just Gary get in there and the rest [TS]

  is history [TS]

  so what I'm hearing Jason is that you're [TS]

  proposing a wide sargasso sea only told [TS]

  from the perspective of what we have [TS]

  little garrix not so good about it how [TS]

  did Wally PIPP feel about this because i [TS]

  only you get your job back we don't stop [TS]

  being injured [TS]

  yeah a yeah I think he made a bit of a [TS]

  meal of it on the on the rubber chicken [TS]

  circuit Nolan stories about oh yeah I [TS]

  had the most expensive headache ever [TS]

  don't be like me you know fans whatever [TS]

  you do don't admit you have a concussion [TS]

  kids know what are we not gonna talk [TS]

  about Walter Brennan is I really think [TS]

  we'll begin to search results are all [TS]

  right [TS]

  Phil's Walter Brennan quarter i love [TS]

  that scene on the beach which also i was [TS]

  amused by their their use of floating [TS]

  devices to demarcate the difference [TS]

  between the sand it was in the studio [TS]

  and the rear projection although the [TS]

  best removing all i have to say this is [TS]

  the when the motorcycle stop the car [TS]

  yeah because i can't believe it is [TS]

  literally the baby wheeled motorcycles [TS]

  out next to the car with it and then [TS]

  they just turn off the projector [TS]

  actually coast to a stop but at no point [TS]

  is there anymore [TS]

  movement or suggestion that anything is [TS]

  Israel they're betting on the beach [TS]

  I liked the Walther present miss you [TS]

  said pops out and he's like hey [TS]

  everybody what are we doing today [TS]

  take a little bit of a third wheel there [TS]

  and they're like no nothing we're just [TS]

  having a great time being married [TS]

  because our marriage is great and Erica [TS]

  mentioned a scene where where Teresa [TS]

  Wright tricks Walter Brennan to think [TS]

  that that lou gherig has betrayed her [TS]

  and is having an affair when really he's [TS]

  just playing baseball with the [TS]

  neighborhood kids but all the rage that [TS]

  slicker some runs Walter Brennan face [TS]

  it's it's it's actually disturbing we [TS]

  can live several minutes and watching [TS]

  him build up to his justice by lou [TS]

  gehrig all people why I'm gonna go get [TS]

  them and I'm going to punch that guy [TS]

  he's clearly a person who is frightened [TS]

  of silence because that guy does not [TS]

  like five seconds go by without starting [TS]

  up another sentence [TS]

  oh yeah it doesn't seem like the press [TS]

  box must have been exhausting oh yes [TS]

  it's between him and uh uh the the other [TS]

  guy is a mystery machine looky area [TS]

  Madison we can well be pretty mia is how [TS]

  he talked but he probably shut up about [TS]

  that after like one season of Lou [TS]

  playing Robert Lee yeah but they kept [TS]

  they kept going on and kept going to [TS]

  keep that bit because you have to have [TS]

  drama you had to have something but also [TS]

  floors me about this movie is that it [TS]

  was a co-written by Herman mankiewicz [TS]

  yeah dude who but a year earlier was [TS]

  co-creating that a little student film [TS]

  called Citizen Kane yeah whatever [TS]

  happened to that guy looks nice know [TS]

  somebody got a career idea never been a [TS]

  lateral move [TS]

  I don't I don't think this is I don't [TS]

  think this is a bad movie I think I'll [TS]

  just know it's not a bad movie uur it's [TS]

  of its time it has a whitewash of a a [TS]

  figure who has a a few dramatic elements [TS]

  in his life that aren't i think [TS]

  particularly well told because instead [TS]

  it wants to be a standard forties kind [TS]

  of romance biopic so you spend a lot of [TS]

  time with things that are a lot i think [TS]

  less interesting in terms of hulu gary [TS]

  was as a person and a lot more time with [TS]

  you know or instead of the time with the [TS]

  stuff that really made him unique and it [TS]

  is of its time i mean it is [TS]

  speaking Italian I felt it was other [TS]

  than that it would tell the little bit [TS]

  long it felt completely inoffensive to [TS]

  me but it also didn't ever jump out it's [TS]

  you know it's a romance with that [TS]

  happens to be about the baseball player [TS]

  you kind of point out that the reason [TS]

  that i enjoyed I I also don't think that [TS]

  this is a super great movie or anything [TS]

  and i had definitely had some problems [TS]

  with it but it's very very much of its [TS]

  time and like I said this is my favorite [TS]

  era of moviemaking so just watching a [TS]

  film with sort of these these rhythms [TS]

  and beets and just this style made me [TS]

  feel very comfortable and while Stephen [TS]

  was getting more and more bored actually [TS]

  was building his lego baseball stadium [TS]

  off appropriately because he couldn't be [TS]

  bothered didn't watch two hours and [TS]

  eight minutes of it i thought--like it [TS]

  goes down easy it is a little bit long [TS]

  but its its pleasant in what it does [TS]

  especially if you get into the rhythms [TS]

  of this kind of a this kind of error on [TS]

  this kind of weather for two hours and [TS]

  eight minutes past surprisingly quickly [TS]

  until I said thought about it and [TS]

  realize nothing happened in that time [TS]

  yeah I don't know it's it's it's closin [TS]

  and you know I mean I grew up in the [TS]

  Yankees house so you know whenever it [TS]

  showed up on TV but I like there was a [TS]

  legit my well-knit I'm innocent I I'm [TS]

  you know I have nothing to do with this [TS]

  I was absorbed into Yankee stage he was [TS]

  a hostage you put it that way and see my [TS]

  father would watch it my step-brother [TS]

  would watch it they can quote it [TS]

  verbatim i mean i've seen it you know [TS]

  this is actually the first time I've [TS]

  ever seen it without commercials so it [TS]

  was actually short and well you know it [TS]

  and it always reminded me you know the [TS]

  more watched and watched movies from the [TS]

  period it always reminds me of night and [TS]

  day which is the the biopic of cole [TS]

  porter who similarly you know he just [TS]

  sort of fell into everything and had [TS]

  success and was great songwriter and all [TS]

  that and then a horse fell on him and [TS]

  broke his legs and that kind of threw [TS]

  off the rest of his life and so he had [TS]

  one tragic thing but of course the movie [TS]

  doesn't tell anything about his life [TS]

  really it doesn't tell anything remotely [TS]

  true but it's got a lot of musical [TS]

  numbers and it's great and it's the same [TS]

  kind of you know he's such a great guy [TS]

  but did it have village and Yolanda [TS]

  doing oddly enough they did a baseball [TS]

  sequence in the middle of that [TS]

  you know it's kind of it's less a movie [TS]

  and more just a giant moving pedestal [TS]

  but yea standing up on ya i think i [TS]

  would have liked this movie more with a [TS]

  worse actor because if you're going to [TS]

  make it more about how great Lou Gehrig [TS]

  is and you make Gary Cooper do it [TS]

  there's not a lot I mean he is that is [TS]

  Gary Cooper easiest yeah I trying to [TS]

  think you would cast if you're making a [TS]

  1942 I'm saying make it interesting [TS]

  let's throw Cary Grant in there and see [TS]

  what happens rapidly plays that [TS]

  character ssa make it interesting as the [TS]

  suave lose at least he'll have some sort [TS]

  of inner life which I never thought this [TS]

  lou gehrig ever did [TS]

  mm and it's it's like that Joe Montana [TS]

  SNL sketch work he has no subtext [TS]

  everything he thinks he says yeah yeah [TS]

  you know there's one other thing that we [TS]

  should say uh Steven maybe do homework [TS]

  for this he sent me an article about the [TS]

  myth that they reversed every scene [TS]

  think Gary Cooper was playing [TS]

  left-handed and which is totally not the [TS]

  case there are absolute lie couple of [TS]

  scenes that way this this article was [TS]

  insanely long and very much scarily [TS]

  welcome to the baseball nerds [TS]

  yeah wow I didn't know how creepy you [TS]

  guys were same as the old nurse [TS]

  yeah I I wasn't even gonna bring that up [TS]

  Erica because it is hit it to fall so [TS]

  much did you know that I'm ready right [TS]

  okay i read some of that article so I [TS]

  feel I seems larger portion [TS]

  yep i am john there's an article [TS]

  explaining what day each external shot [TS]

  was done in which stadium at the very [TS]

  stadiums yeah yeah [TS]

  oh there I mean a lot of it was shot at [TS]

  Wrigley Field in California [TS]

  understanding in for all the different [TS]

  fields [TS]

  go figure right but they had they had [TS]

  some nice shots of up stands and yes [TS]

  interesting aspect and it probably had [TS]

  just enough of a scoreboard that [TS]

  somebody was able to go to retro sheet [TS]

  figure out all the details [TS]

  yeah this was between innings six and [TS]

  seven of them [TS]

  so to sum up III think this is it's a [TS]

  very good example of a picture that you [TS]

  would make in the nineteen forties that [TS]

  I forget who said it that goes down easy [TS]

  yeah it's not met yeah it's not gonna [TS]

  a trouble you too much you're not going [TS]

  to be terribly bored though you will [TS]

  look back and say my god this is two [TS]

  hours and again i think the the closing [TS]

  scene pax pax a bit of a punch so it's [TS]

  it's a for what it is it's a it's a [TS]

  pretty enjoyable flick we and that's [TS]

  what you walk out of the you know in [TS]

  theory you walk out of the theater with [TS]

  is that last punch again you know what [TS]

  more do you need [TS]

  so apparently the studio was totally [TS]

  wondering that last shot [TS]

  they won't do a thing where he walks and [TS]

  hugs Teresa right and instead of the [TS]

  current shot is just him walking into [TS]

  the shadows and didn't respond to [TS]

  comments for someone shouts play ball in [TS]

  the background it's a terrific seen that [TS]

  it's up to you to know that he died a [TS]

  couple years later and didn't just walk [TS]

  around on a crutch for 15 years right [TS]

  you're set yeah they already expected us [TS]

  to know that he was a great baseball [TS]

  player without showing us so why don't [TS]

  you assume that too [TS]

  yeah I like although I i actually [TS]

  thought that the the movie was going to [TS]

  end on the previous shot because there's [TS]

  also a really nice shot where he wants [TS]

  from from the mic and he walks toward [TS]

  the dugout and the camera just stays [TS]

  there and waller and smaller and starts [TS]

  to disappear and I was thinking to [TS]

  myself wow that would actually be a [TS]

  great last shot that he just walked into [TS]

  the dugout is gone in the and and then [TS]

  instead they kinda like oh they cut and [TS]

  then you see what it is which is that [TS]

  shadowy hallway and he disappears [TS]

  completely into the shadows and they say [TS]

  place actually almost the same shot [TS]

  yeah yeah the dissidents I had the same [TS]

  same sort of experience i was very [TS]

  disappointed when they cut from that [TS]

  shot from from him walking into the [TS]

  dugout side like always a great ending [TS]

  and then they did it again i said okay [TS]

  well it's really a great ending yeah [TS]

  yeah to do it twice [TS]

  directed by sam would who directed the [TS]

  Night at the Opera I'm previous [TS]

  selection forget old movie closing so [TS]

  many old movies now it's amazing [TS]

  yeah Ford movie by got a few notes i [TS]

  gotta bleed off as is my wat i have to [TS]

  have to call out in a very early scene [TS]

  where yung Lu is a is playing in the [TS]

  sandlot he there's go ahead the allow it [TS]

  yes the the younger boys the other boys [TS]

  I think they what they require them to [TS]

  pay [TS]

  in baseball card and paste in baseball [TS]

  cards just to play and you know he sets [TS]

  up in the batter's box and I think [TS]

  there's a single pitch and he swings and [TS]

  then roughly half a second later about [TS]

  10 feet behind him the a ball is clearly [TS]

  shot out of some sort of cannons and [TS]

  disappears into the middle distance yeah [TS]

  was that you know you would think you [TS]

  could get a kid to actually hit a ball [TS]

  it's something you would think in the [TS]

  making of this film but yeah speaking of [TS]

  that scene where you get a ball and [TS]

  broke a window that's it that's okay [TS]

  because Sandlot baseball is played [TS]

  nearer offices story and I thought it [TS]

  was weird that actory yeah I thought I [TS]

  thought it was weird that men columbia [TS]

  athletic director's office also had a [TS]

  windows are you saying that they don't [TS]

  field [TS]

  well that's how they can tell they're [TS]

  good prospect i read some bit of trivia [TS]

  there that said that that was that was [TS]

  one of the bit of apocryphal things [TS]

  about this problem is that is not in [TS]

  fact hovering a few feet over the [TS]

  baseball time a little bit of artistic [TS]

  license there there's a line that that i [TS]

  have to mention because it feels [TS]

  strangely low for this otherwise dramas [TS]

  film it's what we have to do kill you to [TS]

  get you out of the lineup yeah yeah I [TS]

  was wondering how that stayed in the [TS]

  script yeah I have that I have that line [TS]

  written down with like 10 ! that really [TS]

  wow for didn't write you want that after [TS]

  its cold you know another thing that I [TS]

  found quite disturbing was when they [TS]

  refer to Eleanor's father mr. Twitchell [TS]

  as the hot dog king is when everybody [TS]

  knows that Roman is the hot dog king of [TS]

  chicago sausage king of Chicago i'll [TS]

  have you know well sausages hot it's a [TS]

  subtle but very important is it so very [TS]

  much difference [TS]

  welcome to sauce attract anything had [TS]

  two kings have negotiated for [TS]

  generations to have to separate their [TS]

  their empires last thing i want to [TS]

  mention is the the goodbye speech which [TS]

  is generally pretty awesome throughout [TS]

  the entirety of it there's this really [TS]

  grainy process shot of babe ruth's face [TS]

  yeah bottom like cut eventually but he's [TS]

  there for a long time [TS]

  I'm behind a microphone just it's [TS]

  terrifying and he's a scary guy [TS]

  yeah I like Babe Ruth throughout this [TS]

  movie but that part is weird I i do like [TS]

  Moby I just you know that guy was a he [TS]

  was a character and it comes through [TS]

  that he's a character even though it's [TS]

  you know old babies playing in paper if [TS]

  you had some swell hats babe but this [TS]

  one is top yeah uh-huh that's the last [TS]

  withdrawal being a hat okay i'm watching [TS]

  an awful lot of movies from the thirties [TS]

  and forties and I've never seen anybody [TS]

  eat a straw hat before is that a thing [TS]

  that's to show that they're just big [TS]

  kids that's the sort of thing actual [TS]

  fraternities would do when they weren't [TS]

  sitting on flagpoles okay then you're [TS]

  saying terrible things about the poor [TS]

  yeah practice also known as the same [TS]

  kind of boobs is Gary yes that baseball [TS]

  fans are the same kind of boobs carry em [TS]

  that's all [TS]

  yeah I don't think the final speeches [TS]

  nearly as echo is everyone acts I think [TS]

  they may be thinking of the actual [TS]

  reaction of the actual pieces before the [TS]

  Super echoing the actual speech has lots [TS]

  of that whoever whoever did this sound [TS]

  design for this new there needed to be [TS]

  stadium echo but wanted to be audible so [TS]

  yes but there are places where it's not [TS]

  when they show crowd shots [TS]

  surely all you hear is the echo and you [TS]

  can actually hear what he's saying in [TS]

  those parts which I found kind of us [TS]

  really unimportant parts and i like that [TS]

  the the the cop in Chicago welcomes [TS]

  himself into the mansion so that I love [TS]

  that scene that is such a 1940 see we [TS]

  can witness the parish proposal he just [TS]

  brings you don't need me anymore [TS]

  yeah this movie is not paying a great [TS]

  picture of police work know how you're a [TS]

  baseball player [TS]

  come on boys the law don't apply to you [TS]

  Lou every police car is driving Lou Gary [TS]

  to the stadium [TS]

  it was a simpler more innocent time it [TS]

  was it was rocks are above the law [TS]

  that's really the moral of this tale [TS]

  yeah cops were more corrupted we like it [TS]

  that way and i love the in the the [TS]

  panoply of nuanced accents that make up [TS]

  this film the Irish cop at the beginning [TS]

  is pretty good super super areas [TS]

  yes i would also like to point out that [TS]

  that pop gherig has a lovely cameo in [TS]

  Casablanca 00 i enjoyed pop carry a lot [TS]

  yeah i'll pop characters yeah he stayed [TS]

  out of this horrible wipes way [TS]

  yeah good work up gary is good and he [TS]

  does his best to explain that two young [TS]

  one point maybe she makes a complete [TS]

  hash of it [TS]

  mog eric is terrible but pop Gehrig's [TS]

  okay is it right now and i spent a lot [TS]

  of this film kind of disappointed [TS]

  because I I think you first mentioned [TS]

  this character when we were talking [TS]

  about Nick vu [TS]

  yes and and so I was expecting this an [TS]

  accent that would just you know shatter [TS]

  my eardrums with its awfulness and the [TS]

  the accent isn't really the point you [TS]

  know I guess it's really more the [TS]

  character yeah yeah I should have I [TS]

  should have been more straightforward [TS]

  yeah that's alright that's my fault i'm [TS]

  not going to get no ceremony Yankee [TS]

  Stadium thats future oh some Yahoo seems [TS]

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  so back to the action well let's move [TS]

  ahead 35 years yes let's go ahead to a [TS]

  film about is a diametrically Posey and [TS]

  Derek story as one can be and still be a [TS]

  movie how do i I don't think the the [TS]

  word scabrous can be used and how to [TS]

  describe motion pictures quite the way [TS]

  it would describe the bad news bears [TS]

  which is a I just think a delightful [TS]

  commentary about sport and childhood and [TS]

  how adults ruined everything [TS]

  my yep yeah and it I everytime i watch [TS]

  this movie I think off the bad news [TS]

  bears this is this is gonna be okay and [TS]

  then i watch Messick my god this is a [TS]

  great picture it is it really is [TS]

  considered maybe one of my top 5 this is [TS]

  the time I watch it I everything about [TS]

  this movie is so fantastic from the [TS]

  screenplay to the direction the acting [TS]

  it is it is so good anyhow I should [TS]

  probably summarize the movie as quickly [TS]

  as possible [TS]

  there's a very competitive little league [TS]

  team in southern a little league in [TS]

  Southern California a do-gooder city [TS]

  councilman Sue's so that everyone can [TS]

  participate in and all the cast offs are [TS]

  thrown into this one [TS]

  team which is managed by Morris [TS]

  Buttermaker who is played by what Walter [TS]

  Matthau out and the only reason he's [TS]

  apparently doing the gig is because he's [TS]

  being paid handsomely to do it [TS]

  he's a washed-up minor league baseball [TS]

  player he's a high-functioning alcoholic [TS]

  although high-functioning might be give [TS]

  our duel too much too much credit [TS]

  yeah yeah whatever introduced to him [TS]

  when he pulls into the Little League [TS]

  parking lot at dawn reaches into the [TS]

  cooler in his backseat cracks of [TS]

  budweiser drains off the top couple of [TS]

  ounces and pours in some jacket and I [TS]

  want to back up there because i think [TS]

  that is one of the greatest opening [TS]

  shots in the history of the most [TS]

  beautiful you got this beautiful shot of [TS]

  a little league team practicing on the [TS]

  field and it is just this slice of [TS]

  Americana and they're doing drills and [TS]

  such a this junker car pulls him and [TS]

  it's walter matthau with his hangdog [TS]

  expression and he porks about the [TS]

  budweiser that is his grab from the [TS]

  cooler in the back seat of his card but [TS]

  even in the nineteen seventies violating [TS]

  all sorts of a big container grabs for [TS]

  the bottle of Jim Beam the the Bourbon [TS]

  you choose when you really hard [TS]

  particular about bourbon or is it into [TS]

  his that risk is now empty can of [TS]

  budweiser grant is all [TS]

  yeah that's flavor country no that's a [TS]

  great shot because then sets up the [TS]

  entire approach of this movie and we [TS]

  kind of know everything we need to know [TS]

  about Buttermaker at that point I don't [TS]

  think we do yet because we still have at [TS]

  this point we've only seen him drink one [TS]

  brand of beer [TS]

  yeah he the best that he's always [TS]

  drinking something different like he [TS]

  just wanders historic grabs whatever is [TS]

  closed when he got rainier flips [TS]

  whatever let's go i'm just drinking beer [TS]

  well the obvious explanation for that is [TS]

  he bought whatever was on so yeah I've [TS]

  literally has he clearly has a favorite [TS]

  brand because there are three places [TS]

  where we see Budweiser [TS]

  yeah but throughout the film he's [TS]

  drinking budweiser Mickey's big mouth [TS]

  miller high life let's yep there's a [TS]

  there's a scene where he actually puts [TS]

  the beer back before drinking it we [TS]

  don't get to see what brand that is then [TS]

  he's on Pabst Blue Ribbon Budweiser [TS]

  again more Budweiser and then in the [TS]

  championship game he's drinking coors [TS]

  though in the bottom half of the 60 [TS]

  transitions to lucky lager [TS]

  and there's actually a point where he's [TS]

  drinking a lucky in a bottle on the [TS]

  bench but then he stands up moments [TS]

  later and it's turned into a course in [TS]

  the kinda and even in the team photo at [TS]

  the very end he as a beer it's just it's [TS]

  it's fantastic and anything is if you've [TS]

  ever dealt with alcoholic and [TS]

  particularly a poor outcome you you've [TS]

  seen that there's there may be a [TS]

  favorite brand there but it's very [TS]

  rarely in rotation because the the ANP [TS]

  only has one beer on sale right [TS]

  everytime i watch bad news bears i am [TS]

  surprised because in my head because of [TS]

  the first time I saw it it's about kids [TS]

  playing baseball [TS]

  yeah right and then I watch it I go [TS]

  alright this is about water bath out [TS]

  right well I'm i saw this movie so many [TS]

  times as a kid on TV and so it came off [TS]

  to me as just a it's a funny baseball [TS]

  movie for kids [TS]

  yeah oh it is so not for kids because [TS]

  the end this thing is that they they [TS]

  trimmed it down the edited for [TS]

  television and they took out pretty much [TS]

  everything that was you [TS]

  objection intellectuals have so much [TS]

  stuff that I never noticed back then [TS]

  that the fact that they it completely [TS]

  I completely missed the fact that they [TS]

  only have a team because some a-hole [TS]

  politicians sued yeah in the first place [TS]

  he doesn't care enough to manage his [TS]

  sons team he paid or even talk to the [TS]

  games until until the very end of the [TS]

  area no one shows up at the games i [TS]

  think there's a chance [TS]

  all of these kids are orphans I never [TS]

  understood why Tatum O'Neal calls him [TS]

  boilermaker throughout the film and that [TS]

  of course makes more sense now out of [TS]

  the one of the funny things is that [TS]

  everyone calls him by the wrong name [TS]

  using butter waterworks all-butter crud [TS]

  x 10.5 well the Tanners got a thing [TS]

  a boilermaker as you say and there's [TS]

  this like a bunch of other x squared [TS]

  people just totally calling the wrong [TS]

  name no no one gets out to our forests [TS]

  butter [TS]

  perhaps most important that the fact [TS]

  that the team moms and the coaches are [TS]

  so absolutely awful completely [TS]

  completely went over my head back that [TS]

  and and how much they clearly hate the [TS]

  intrusion of butter maker and this [TS]

  politician on their little baseball [TS]

  fiefdom yeah and that that all rings so [TS]

  true laughs as anybody who's ever dealt [TS]

  was because apparent now or just any [TS]

  kind of like parenting situation right [TS]

  now even the people in the office who [TS]

  have to update the standings are furious [TS]

  that repaired even if ya wanted that one [TS]

  of the objections that the league [TS]

  manager starts complaining about just [TS]

  almost to the point of Mania is then now [TS]

  it's an odd number of a league-low I [TS]

  understand that complaint you can we [TS]

  want everyone to play each weekend right [TS]

  and you can't do that with an odd number [TS]

  of teams somebody has to have a buy one [TS]

  get an A Team could have a that's why [TS]

  everybody hates me so so here's my [TS]

  background I played Little League [TS]

  baseball in the seventies and my team [TS]

  was in fact where the rejected players [TS]

  went to play yes and we were terrible in [TS]

  four years of organized baseball [TS]

  we won two games that were [TS]

  we won two games that were [TS]

  that one year three and one here for [TS]

  first two years they were no wins [TS]

  I i we we were we were the bad news race [TS]

  and in fact when I was i want to say [TS]

  first grade the manager who was not a [TS]

  parent but for some reason had [TS]

  volunteered to manage us offered all of [TS]

  the first graders on the team and [TS]

  probably second-graders to a pinch of [TS]

  his chewing tobacco because that's what [TS]

  baseball players did and so I i watch [TS]

  this movie thinking oh and I I i don't [TS]

  think i've seen it before if I have I [TS]

  haven't seen it since it was the edited [TS]

  for television you know many many years [TS]

  ago and I I had a moment of thinking oh [TS]

  my god they made a movie about the team [TS]

  that I was on it except there was no [TS]

  there was no turnaround where we got [TS]

  good players and at the end to make it [TS]

  to the finals [TS]

  we were just terrible the whole time and [TS]

  um and so that was one whole layer where [TS]

  I thought oh my god this is I I totally [TS]

  know the story and I can identify with [TS]

  it and then as a parent of children who [TS]

  have been in organized sports for awhile [TS]

  i also got to witness all of the things [TS]

  about how in the end all of the kids [TS]

  just want to play and the grown-ups are [TS]

  terrible people who have completely lost [TS]

  perspective on why these sports exist so [TS]

  I loved it but I also feel like i-i've [TS]

  lived both sides of it now in my life [TS]

  and so it also really kind of touch me [TS]

  that it was I've seen this before I I [TS]

  never tore off all of my uniform clothes [TS]

  and climbed up a tree but I thought [TS]

  about doing it was a beautiful I I [TS]

  should probably can conclude that the [TS]

  plot of this mature way we can do the [TS]

  one yeah yeah we started it he pulls [TS]

  into the parking lot of these tricky [TS]

  writing [TS]

  ok so the scroll his team is terrible [TS]

  and damon runyon as a scroll of the [TS]

  industry boy what a terrible time this [TS]

  is team this poor be the simple and he [TS]

  goes good the practices and it's your [TS]

  typical [TS]

  sports movie montage of poor athletes [TS]

  paint poor athletes they play their [TS]

  first game against the Yankees who are [TS]

  the best team in the league and a side [TS]

  note here this is made in 1976 and at [TS]

  the time it had been 12 years since the [TS]

  yankees had been any any damn good of [TS]

  the the major-league Yankees and yet i [TS]

  still like the fact that they're all the [TS]

  the the most awful thing about sports is [TS]

  the Yankees so that they play against [TS]

  the Yankee's it's such a humiliating [TS]

  loss that Buttermaker actually forfeits [TS]

  the game it's 20 don't even get an [TS]

  at-bat know it's 22 nothing at one point [TS]

  and they're about to disband the team [TS]

  and something in butter makers three [TS]

  sizes too small heart says and maybe i [TS]

  should actually go through the motions [TS]

  of of of teaching them how to play [TS]

  baseball so I just point out that in [TS]

  modern not a kid baseball you have a [TS]

  limited number of battered parading so [TS]

  there's a mercy at all yes well there's [TS]

  a limited like you can you can only bad [TS]

  around at most levels and then the [TS]

  inning is over whether you got me out on [TS]

  that team or not but precisely because [TS]

  this would happen otherwise all the time [TS]

  all the time so II begins to drama [TS]

  little bit more and they're a little [TS]

  less terrible those still awful and so [TS]

  what [TS]

  Buttermaker does at this point is the [TS]

  first person he seeks out is the [TS]

  daughter of a lady who used to date he [TS]

  taught how to pitch he's played by Tatum [TS]

  O'Neal this is her first picture that [TS]

  she need after winning Best Supporting [TS]

  Actress for paper moon [TS]

  she's great she is sasha's has to get [TS]

  his movement just great [TS]

  IMDb has some of the least surprising [TS]

  trivia ever other actresses they [TS]

  consider kristy mcnichol and jodie [TS]

  foster haha yum you basically the other [TS]

  two [TS]

  yeah and apparently sarah jessica parker [TS]

  but Jodi fostered said no I'm gonna go [TS]

  make taxi driver [TS]

  oh that was a good choice and um kristy [TS]

  mcnichol apparently got the part and [TS]

  then they said now let's split we can [TS]

  get Tatum O'Neal so sorry [TS]

  Tatum O'Neal [TS]

  is basically a tomboy who doesn't want [TS]

  to be a tomboy anymore but she's being a [TS]

  tomboy and you can throw she can throw a [TS]

  curve that breaks two feet and so she's [TS]

  sucked into the movie though not before [TS]

  she negotiates with Buttermaker to [TS]

  basically find her ballet lessons and [TS]

  modeling classes she's selling star maps [TS]

  that's a nice detail to she's sitting in [TS]

  a lawn chair by the side of the road [TS]

  selling the maps to the stars homes when [TS]

  he goes to talk to her i love that but [TS]

  which is another great character [TS]

  introduction now I mean the movies full [TS]

  of those so good and then the other [TS]

  addition to the team is a Kelly leak the [TS]

  coolest kid in school who is played by [TS]

  the watchman's jackie earle haley i know [TS]

  i love that my wife was physically [TS]

  repelled by Jackie her it would rip this [TS]

  he knows what she knows what he's going [TS]

  to grow up to become this this this this [TS]

  for audition ami yeah let's not forget [TS]

  he also played Freddy Krueger he was one [TS]

  of the cutters and breaking away [TS]

  Breaking Away where he's kind of gross [TS]

  quite frankly he's pretty repellent in [TS]

  this as well I mean there's that they [TS]

  negotiate the the terms of the air hot [TS]

  on one point [TS]

  yeah and and she she's she specifies [TS]

  that if if she wins the game that he has [TS]

  to play for their team and a so he says [TS]

  well what if you lose and she says name [TS]

  it and there's this grid creeps across [TS]

  the face that is the creepiest because [TS]

  then it turns out all he wanted was to [TS]

  go to a Rolling Stones concert with her [TS]

  and she's furious [TS]

  even though I'm pretty sure the rolling [TS]

  stones were a good concert in 1976 yeah [TS]

  yeah very good concept in 1976 but my [TS]

  favorite part of that that little [TS]

  negotiation if she goes back to the car [TS]

  after she's lost and Walter Matthau how [TS]

  how to go and then and he says I lost i [TS]

  have to go to roll instant concert movie [TS]

  with them and and math was just a [TS]

  plastic and now if he tries to get fresh [TS]

  with you do this and she says who do you [TS]

  think you are my father and wishes on [TS]

  your god damn manager and I that is that [TS]

  is one of the best exchanges in the [TS]

  movie because it perfectly encapsulates [TS]

  the relationship between those two [TS]

  yeah let's seems like that makes me [TS]

  wonder what Tatum O'Neal's me [TS]

  other thinks of all this now is [TS]

  saturated math out for about two years [TS]

  yeah clearly she doesn't have a lot of [TS]

  and now he's back in her daughter's life [TS]

  yeah I see was apparently sad when he [TS]

  left them the broker heart so that gives [TS]

  you an idea of what I think a lot of the [TS]

  the walter matthau Tatum O'Neal reunion [TS]

  was done on the Qt suppose my mother mom [TS]

  because I don't think she would have had [TS]

  get objected and later on in the movie [TS]

  we find out the Tatum O'Neal negotiates [TS]

  that mom should come to the game to [TS]

  watch and maybe go out on the date with [TS]

  Walter Matthau afterwards but we're [TS]

  getting ahead of ourselves because it [TS]

  reads almost like they're a divorced [TS]

  couple and yet she is his his daughter [TS]

  she actually is it done and that's not [TS]

  in the story but you might as well [TS]

  portrayed it that way then yeah he's [TS]

  coming back into her life in order to do [TS]

  this and and they have to negotiate the [TS]

  presence of the mother at the last game [TS]

  and in fact in there in the remake from [TS]

  2005 which we may or may not talk about [TS]

  after this she not she actually is his [TS]

  daughter haha but is so anyhow Kelly [TS]

  leak played by the watchman's Jackie [TS]

  Earle Haley the question our Shack not [TS]

  the question i forget i don't i don't [TS]

  know if you kind of excited that funny [TS]

  books is the question [TS]

  oh he uh uh he is not going to join the [TS]

  team but then he is bullied by the [TS]

  manager of the yankees and he decides to [TS]

  join the team isn't a few to the more oh [TS]

  yeah it was never played a likeable [TS]

  character in any movie I've ever seen on [TS]

  yeah he's so unlikeable visits great he [TS]

  has no most magnificent of bastards in [TS]

  this year's every bad parent [TS]

  kodad kids sports team of any kind [TS]

  yeah all rolled into one it's amazing [TS]

  and yet you [TS]

  yeah you hate him so with it a decent [TS]

  picture and a decent player the Bears [TS]

  finally start winning games [TS]

  they move up the standings and they [TS]

  somehow wind up into the championship [TS]

  game with the with the FR mentioned [TS]

  Yankees and on at the same time Walter [TS]

  Matthau becomes less of the easygoing [TS]

  beer-swilling a fun dad that he was and [TS]

  more of the demanding come on you kids [TS]

  this is what you wanted kind of terrible [TS]

  parent and it all sort of culminates in [TS]

  the in the championship game where both [TS]

  he and Vic Mauro apparently are having a [TS]

  a dick contest to see you can be bigger [TS]

  one and Walter Matthau potentially sees [TS]

  oh god I'm being horrible and just sort [TS]

  of cracks himself a beer and says hey [TS]

  kids i'm going to put in all the [TS]

  terrible players now and if we win we [TS]

  win if we lose we lose and as it turns [TS]

  out they lose but there's a there's a [TS]

  wonderful moment at the end where the [TS]

  Yankees give sort of a heart [TS]

  half-hearted well you guys showed heart [TS]

  and you're okay by us and Tanner Boyle [TS]

  who is the scrappy fight seeking [TS]

  shortstop because it was about three [TS]

  foot tall if this movie [TS]

  he says you can take your apology and [TS]

  your trophy and and and shove it up your [TS]

  ass and then and it is also one of the [TS]

  few children's movies that features a [TS]

  full-scale brawl which i think is just a [TS]

  wonderful moment again movies that's [TS]

  basically want to see these kids punched [TS]

  at this point yeah oh yeah everyone is [TS]

  punching and i should i should mention [TS]

  that in the vista to go for full circle [TS]

  and Vic Mauro his sons the start picture [TS]

  on the yankees his son wants to strike [TS]

  out the fact catcher uncle Bert the [TS]

  worst bear the thinner [TS]

  yeah Erica knows when I'm talking about [TS]

  my far and the most all can't even get a [TS]

  jersey that for now that fits he's awful [TS]

  and he's giving the finger to the [TS]

  picture and the picture wants to strike [TS]

  him out and but the dad says hey Vic [TS]

  Mauro says hey walk this kid instead he [TS]

  throws at his head and Vic Mauro and [TS]

  rage walks out [TS]

  and smacks the half-life and asked his [TS]

  son all haha [TS]

  knocks him down as Maxum so hard its [TS]

  silent [TS]

  yeah and and she creates a yeah it is my [TS]

  god it is it is a devastating scene in [TS]

  what has previously been an uproarious [TS]

  comedy that that in the scene where [TS]

  Walter Matthau throws the beer at the [TS]

  head of tatum o'neal when she's [TS]

  suggesting that he and his and her mom [TS]

  get back together again and he says God [TS]

  if I wanted to get back together I would [TS]

  have looked you up two years ago and [TS]

  that was there so many scenes here where [TS]

  where Matthew know as a reprobate he's [TS]

  he's he gets so angry and he's clearly [TS]

  teetering on the brink of violence and [TS]

  hold himself back at the last minute we [TS]

  actually my wife and I counted how many [TS]

  times a walter matthau curses and [TS]

  children in this movie and it is [TS]

  innocent the double digits yeah it's [TS]

  delightful [TS]

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  sponsoring the uncomfortable one of the [TS]

  nice things about this is that Vic [TS]

  Morrow scene where he where he boils [TS]

  over and and smacks his son on the mound [TS]

  at this point in the movie [TS]

  things have gotten you know they go up [TS]

  and down but it's really like continuing [TS]

  to crank up the bad behavior especially [TS]

  the parents you know and you kind of [TS]

  forgive it because it's simmering there [TS]

  it's like it's bad you're like ok these [TS]

  people are bad it's a commentary on it [TS]

  they're behaving outrageously but you [TS]

  know it's still funny and I'm gonna [TS]

  laugh at it and then Vic Mauro hits this [TS]

  kid at and that's the moment and then [TS]

  it's silent and that's the moment when [TS]

  you realize not only is this I'm [TS]

  acceptable but lots of other things that [TS]

  you kind of let go are also unacceptable [TS]

  leaving right this is a really great [TS]

  moment when there's still a bit of grip [TS]

  that's still a bit of crescendo left [TS]

  yeah we're math math was continuing to [TS]

  spiral out of control even after seeing [TS]

  this and then he gives his don't you [TS]

  want to beat those bastards speech and [TS]

  then and then that scene there we get [TS]

  close-ups of all the incredulous players [TS]

  totally silent yeah and then you get [TS]

  this lingering shot of Matthew and you [TS]

  see that the dawning realization of he [TS]

  knows what he's becoming up is so damn [TS]

  good he almost looks like he's going to [TS]

  cry there [TS]

  yeah and it's it's just that it's a [TS]

  heart-rending and wonderful moment [TS]

  because that's when he realizes he needs [TS]

  to pull it back and and put in the case [TS]

  you haven't played yet let them play [TS]

  even though it means they're gonna lose [TS]

  the game [TS]

  yeah the moral of this movie is that you [TS]

  have to care slightly more about winning [TS]

  than zero so Buttermaker has to learn a [TS]

  little bit at the beginning of the movie [TS]

  but you should not care a whole lot [TS]

  about winning yet you care [TS]

  I think about thirty percent otherwise [TS]

  your monster in either direction and of [TS]

  course that we should point out that the [TS]

  movie ends with after they've lost [TS]

  Buttermaker handing out beers 211 [TS]

  it's still great and then the parents [TS]

  are just hoisting their kids around they [TS]

  clearly don't give a damn that the kids [TS]

  are toting beers this is probably the [TS]

  first game any of the parents of [TS]

  attended and the one person you express [TS]

  concern is all their cameras here we [TS]

  told this [TS]

  yeah that's that's a big concern that's [TS]

  what's the politician of course the one [TS]

  that's concerned about it so that one [TS]

  kid's been riding a motor [TS]

  cycle without a helmet the whole movie [TS]

  my was things were done with the nature [TS]

  of the day as opposed to when the entire [TS]

  team is writing in Buttermaker scar [TS]

  without me seatbelt as he's drinking [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah that's okay too it's [TS]

  worth mentioning that this that if there [TS]

  ever was a movie they've got growing up [TS]

  seventies just right yeah it's totally [TS]

  this one is I mean from the from Little [TS]

  League night at the pizza hut really [TS]

  should be a Shakey's but you know close [TS]

  it's whatever your God you know the [TS]

  scene in the arcade is great where [TS]

  there's nothing behind but pinball [TS]

  possess base invaders didn't come out [TS]

  yet [TS]

  yeah also also I enjoy the fact that the [TS]

  Yankees have sponsored by dennys and [TS]

  Danny's got its own promotional [TS]

  consideration credit in the movie and I [TS]

  reply I just imagine the executives at [TS]

  dennys going sit watching the screening [TS]

  of this movie good we did not agree to [TS]

  play sponsored by we sponsor the team of [TS]

  the man who strikes a child i noticed [TS]

  chico of chico's bail bonds was smart [TS]

  enough not how it is maybe that is a [TS]

  beautiful setup the the UK because it's [TS]

  just natural that these kids have [TS]

  danny's on their backs and these kids [TS]

  have pizza hut on their backs and then [TS]

  because because I Buttermaker has had to [TS]

  sell his own sponsorships to get the [TS]

  uniforms chicos bail bonds on the bits [TS]

  oh that's a good joke i don't i don't [TS]

  know if that's the greatest visual joke [TS]

  in the history of movies because it is [TS]

  the top 10 it's especially great about [TS]

  that is that it's he gets the uniforms [TS]

  and hand them out to the kids several [TS]

  scenes before that yeah they could have [TS]

  taken the opportunity right then to tell [TS]

  that you but they wait and it's subtle [TS]

  because you don't see even remotely a [TS]

  bit of the back of the uniform but you [TS]

  don't even think about it because it's [TS]

  just it's played so well they don't do [TS]

  any of those camera tricks that make it [TS]

  very clear that they're not showing you [TS]

  the back and who could this be it just [TS]

  it just comes up later and then you [TS]

  laugh could just be showing us these [TS]

  kids lined up and ready to go and also [TS]

  I'd i believe they show that during the [TS]

  National and as the nationally out of [TS]

  this being something they smoke they [TS]

  show all the sponsors of the teams and [TS]

  there's chicos bail bonds [TS]

  there's a lot of scenes like that works [TS]

  there doing the Pledge of Allegiance and [TS]

  and Walter Matthau was reading the [TS]

  Pledge of Allegiance because he doesn't [TS]

  know yes and [TS]

  and you look at modern day baseball [TS]

  where they interrupt games for to play [TS]

  God Bless America and you think boy the [TS]

  bad news bears was ahead of its yeah [TS]

  yeah one of the things i think really [TS]

  makes the Chico's bail bonds joke land [TS]

  is that they do a different joke first [TS]

  because they told you all of the good [TS]

  colors are taken and that means that the [TS]

  badges bears end up with yellow and [TS]

  white [TS]

  yeah which is kind of cool if you look [TS]

  at the final game there are people in [TS]

  the stage wearing yellow and white [TS]

  mhm they've got a fan base yeah but you [TS]

  think because they've done the joke will [TS]

  see they got the bad colors there's not [TS]

  another job coming there is Erica you [TS]

  are you are not a you're a 40 movie fan [TS]

  and not a huge baseball fan what was [TS]

  your take on the bad news bears i am [TS]

  also not a fan of movies from the [TS]

  seventies to sort of in general i'm [TS]

  gerry was that racist decade for movies [TS]

  huh you guys thought that the pride of [TS]

  the Yankees was long i felt like this [TS]

  this to me you even though it's only a [TS]

  hundred two minutes felt at least half [TS]

  again as long while as pride of the [TS]

  Yankees it just just that style of [TS]

  filmmaking where everywhere you get a [TS]

  reaction shot from every single [TS]

  character in strong words from Canada [TS]

  just it just doesn't where there are a [TS]

  lot of reaction shots of every [TS]

  Samaritans reaction show everything just [TS]

  stretches out it just feels so so kind [TS]

  of gradient and realistic and that is i [TS]

  like the the shiny happy 47th nobody's [TS]

  naturalistic and nobody reacts in the [TS]

  nineteen forties so they just accept [TS]

  what happens on speed and there's a [TS]

  musical number dammit where is the music [TS]

  / bad news bears everyone is gross in [TS]

  nineteen seventies much so just like [TS]

  everyone in the nineteen seventies see I [TS]

  don't want that I've experienced you [TS]

  know a part of the nineteen seventies [TS]

  and Phil thinks i think this whole movie [TS]

  was shot with natural light but there's [TS]

  a lot of shots like no natural light [TS]

  doesn't actually show up in butter [TS]

  makers handed anyone that may be the way [TS]

  it does look III it looks and i'm going [TS]

  to take this based also on what Erika [TS]

  said I think this movie looks great but [TS]

  it looks great in the sense that it kind [TS]

  of look [TS]

  gross i ng it is the rng fit is a [TS]

  seventies I mean it he has got that [TS]

  crappy car the AA it you know it is it [TS]

  it feels very seventies to me but any in [TS]

  a nostalgic away because a lot of movies [TS]

  from the seventies are in portraying [TS]

  things that I didn't experience when I [TS]

  was a kid in the seventies but this this [TS]

  is something i did experience and it was [TS]

  just like this the only difference [TS]

  honestly is that where I played peewee [TS]

  baseball there with the field didn't [TS]

  have grass all we had was dirt we [TS]

  practiced on dirt i do want to make it [TS]

  clear though that I I recognize all the [TS]

  things you guys are saying and I I [TS]

  understand why people like this film so [TS]

  I'm not saying it's terrible it's just [TS]

  very much not for me however i really [TS]

  liked the end I had never seen it before [TS]

  I never actually saw this film so I was [TS]

  expecting when Walter Matthau outputs in [TS]

  the lousy kids i was expecting that [TS]

  somehow they were gonna pull it out and [TS]

  they were going to win and I was like [TS]

  this is terrible this is teaching the [TS]

  wrong lesson but then they lost and I [TS]

  was like all right you know what I'm I'm [TS]

  kind of on board with this movie now I [TS]

  appreciate this so the right lesson then [TS]

  is when you take second place throw your [TS]

  pitiful trophy and curses and have a [TS]

  beer [TS]

  let me let me let me lay a truth bomb on [TS]

  you they actually filmed two endings and [TS]

  this is it is the right thing [TS]

  this is according to both of the actors [TS]

  who played Toby andrew d steyn they they [TS]

  get it two ways that Kelly leak is [TS]

  called out at the plate and Kelly leak [TS]

  is called safe at the plate and the [TS]

  actors the kids didn't actually know how [TS]

  the movie edited and they tested the [TS]

  films and audiences did not really like [TS]

  the one with the Bears win [TS]

  good for them I daresay that would ruin [TS]

  the entire film yeah [TS]

  yep the director Michael Richie took [TS]

  some of the kids out for dinner before [TS]

  the before the premiere and said hey so [TS]

  here's how the movie you made actually [TS]

  ends and they're all yeah makes sense [TS]

  and yeah and i think i like y'all's aids [TS]

  it's it would not have been a good movie [TS]

  if the bad news bears win that game you [TS]

  know if they win the morale of the movie [TS]

  would be even a bad team can win [TS]

  if they get enough ringers Yeah right [TS]

  right button that's one of the problems [TS]

  with this movie is the fact that two [TS]

  ringers one good picture and one good [TS]

  hitter is really not enough to overcome [TS]

  the handicap of the rest of the team [TS]

  well you don't know that because they're [TS]

  so bad in the first game because of the [TS]

  pitching [TS]

  yeah right like really really Stein is [TS]

  really bringing that team down like one [TS]

  of the things i like about the movies [TS]

  that it honors the baseball side of it [TS]

  we're clearly their biggest flaw is [TS]

  their inability to pitch so you bring in [TS]

  a good picture somebody to learn to [TS]

  curveball at nine so she's definitely [TS]

  gonna need elbow surgery at some point [TS]

  right [TS]

  shortly after this movie it looks like [TS]

  yeah immediately after the last day here [TS]

  in fact admittedly they do show that the [TS]

  other kids have learned to hit around [TS]

  the CMYK Goldberg can can hit only could [TS]

  have hit in the first game just they [TS]

  never got too bad it didn't forget about [TS]

  and Ahmed can can can hit ya i don't [TS]

  like the same lupus catches that ball to [TS]

  send it to the bottom of the knife [TS]

  yes like in wkrp in cincinnati yes [TS]

  that's your that's your big victory [TS]

  moment right there [TS]

  that'sthat's to compensate for you not [TS]

  seeing the team win at the end you at [TS]

  least see lupus lupus caches of all that [TS]

  wonderful happy moment where they all [TS]

  run out and celebrate Lucas's catch [TS]

  probably more violently than they would [TS]

  celebrate actually winning the game so [TS]

  can i point out how fascinating this [TS]

  movie is in the sense that it has all of [TS]

  the code all of the sudden code words [TS]

  all of the words that are derogatory [TS]

  toward other races young and the team is [TS]

  remarkably diverse the only diverse team [TS]

  the team is being gay boy they put they [TS]

  put the Mexican kids and the black kid [TS]

  on this team [TS]

  then if they've got their share of [TS]

  indistinguishable blonde kids to they do [TS]

  there are some yeah but an appointment [TS]

  because that one is the politicians kid [TS]

  who for some reason couldn't get into [TS]

  another team they all hate him [TS]

  baby sucks yeah he seems quite [TS]

  indispensable read more on who naturally [TS]

  would not be on another team elsewhere [TS]

  and ahmad he's got a he's got an aha [TS]

  moment at one point that's really funny [TS]

  this is for Allah and it's going way out [TS]

  this sucks okay yeah pretty much [TS]

  yeah it was Miss direction when he was [TS]

  first introduced to me that I want to [TS]

  play where Hank Aaron played in my head [TS]

  I'm like oh Claire Wisconsin [TS]

  my dad feeling better Hank Aaron plane [TS]

  and one who wouldn't work generally and [TS]

  then he pulls off all of his all these [TS]

  uniforms when he's at me and he climbs [TS]

  up in the tree which is great and [TS]

  without goes and gets them [TS]

  hey this is nice for baseball near that [TS]

  I am I I actually spent much of sunday [TS]

  morning this week thinking about well [TS]

  would a child idolizing 1976 if they [TS]

  were if they were 11 years old and and [TS]

  and I i thought yeah probably Hank area [TS]

  most likely Reggie Jackson yeah I felt [TS]

  like a mod didn't get a lot of screen [TS]

  time but his story was picked up and [TS]

  expanded for the character of Willie [TS]

  Mays Hayes in baby yeah I guess what he [TS]

  wants to be a power hitter but really he [TS]

  should be hitting the ball on the ground [TS]

  running it out [TS]

  he's a little Brock tight yeah I also [TS]

  like the aguilar kids [TS]

  no yeah they are they're great and and [TS]

  they're there are several moments where [TS]

  they just say things in spanish and they [TS]

  kill me [TS]

  it's it's so fun and Tanner's response [TS]

  when they're they're talking about Kelly [TS]

  leak and the kid says something [TS]

  incomprehensible in Spanish and he says [TS]

  I don't know what he's talking about [TS]

  what I like it was also an orange like [TS]

  this of diet Diablo like that and if i'm [TS]

  gonna use can't leave to be believed in [TS]

  the trivia section of of those [TS]

  kids spoke a look a spanish really [TS]

  really yeah i know they they spoke [TS]

  English perfectly that may have to be [TS]

  taught spanish right and and then you [TS]

  get the idea delfin with yeah we'll be [TS]

  doing well where he's just so small that [TS]

  they can't they just have to walk him [TS]

  because you can't pitch to that kid [TS]

  that's only that but it's funny because [TS]

  then you've got the foul-mouthed kid who [TS]

  is who is you know probably repeating [TS]

  from their parents every horrible awful [TS]

  thing you could say about people of [TS]

  other races and they and they almost and [TS]

  they turn that around to it's like well [TS]

  they're all on our team so it's a it's a [TS]

  it's fascinating to me that that it is [TS]

  both so just like giving the kids beer [TS]

  at the end it's tough to it that a movie [TS]

  would not do today I think and it's and [TS]

  it's uncomfortable and yet I really the [TS]

  only the only film our or our creative [TS]

  endeavor that could get away [TS]

  that is south park and that's because [TS]

  they're animated spread em [TS]

  have you guys seen the movie kids by [TS]

  harmony Kareem ok we have a may have a [TS]

  big Hollywood production ok studio yeah [TS]

  something else that I don't think a [TS]

  modern movie would do today at least not [TS]

  a modern movie like this that's [TS]

  ostensibly a comedy aimed at kids is I I [TS]

  think it's one of my favorite things [TS]

  about the movie it's the fact that this [TS]

  at least in large part is kind of a tale [TS]

  of redemption for Buttermaker but it's a [TS]

  really minor Redemption yeah i mean he's [TS]

  not really [TS]

  15 it's not it's not like a league of [TS]

  their own where he like stop drinking [TS]

  and no why are you still a drunk and you [TS]

  get that they're gonna keep drinking it [TS]

  when he yeah i mean he's still sitting [TS]

  in the dugout drinking course in that [TS]

  championship not given any hands up [TS]

  here's to the kids to track them what [TS]

  drag them down to it's a story of a guy [TS]

  who doesn't care anymore becoming a guy [TS]

  who who cares [TS]

  yeah right nothing else is repaired in [TS]

  him but he goes from being he is totally [TS]

  disaffected he's not he's not talking to [TS]

  to a ceremonial anymore to Amanda he is [TS]

  just cleaning pools he's only doing this [TS]

  gig because he's getting paid by the [TS]

  city councilman or whatever and then by [TS]

  and and and he starts to turn was like [TS]

  no no we're going to play anyway but by [TS]

  the end he's like he's got the proper [TS]

  perspective about like letting the kids [TS]

  be kids [TS]

  he's got the perspective that the [TS]

  parents of all the other teams don't [TS]

  have so he's got out he he cares and he [TS]

  likes those kids that's his progression [TS]

  the rest of his life is a shambles but [TS]

  that is a progression for him and that's [TS]

  a reasonable progression it's not you [TS]

  know it and a modern movie would have [TS]

  him completely turn around and do that [TS]

  yet league of their own yeah he'd get a [TS]

  new job by the end of the movie right [TS]

  right i will say this for the bad news [TS]

  bears though it was it was more a movie [TS]

  about baseball than pride of the Yankees [TS]

  is that we want to thank you later so [TS]

  hostile is more movie about baseball [TS]

  is that this is a movie about bad [TS]

  baseball players for the most part so [TS]

  you just have the kids actually do their [TS]

  thing I thought that was good to the the [TS]

  portrayal of the than playing baseball [TS]

  was was I thought fairly accurate and as [TS]

  i said in the series of tweets to fill [TS]

  while I was watching it [TS]

  they had defensive shifts and the kids [TS]

  studying the the the scoresheet and [TS]

  talking about the stats so that they [TS]

  totally totally Moneyball movie too i [TS]

  love the defensive shift where they're [TS]

  like the kid gets up there always hits [TS]

  to left field and and Buttermaker just [TS]

  like go go over there and there's like [TS]

  five kids in the field that was great [TS]

  that was really funny you know weirdly [TS]

  enough considering how I feel about [TS]

  baseball [TS]

  the baseball scenes were actually my [TS]

  favorite part of this movie if they [TS]

  would have trimmed out all the [TS]

  relationship stuff in just one more [TS]

  baseball i think i would have liked it [TS]

  you see you've guessed encapsulated my [TS]

  feelings about grow older term which I [TS]

  love the baseball scene in that movie [TS]

  and I hate everything [TS]

  oh my goodness but that's not a movie we [TS]

  saw [TS]

  now that's that is not the movies I know [TS]

  asleep during both of our moms later but [TS]

  I yeah but member jmo goofy i really [TS]

  like that nobody makes fun of him for [TS]

  knowing everything about baseball [TS]

  no use for them yeah knowing these [TS]

  things and he's basically the assistant [TS]

  manager one of my favorite shots of the [TS]

  movie is when amanda has has thrown her [TS]

  curveball a whole feature insta-buck [TS]

  maker does this very elaborate handshake [TS]

  like good job boss he was my favorite by [TS]

  fire oh yeah oh he is the best bear that [TS]

  turned to Stephen I was like I like that [TS]

  guy is the greatest I mean I i watch [TS]

  when i was little i saw the sequel's [TS]

  which don't want terrible kind and [TS]

  patient there are not even here there is [TS]

  a 3-bedroom no Matthew no sale man I [TS]

  even watched the TV show version which [TS]

  is also yeah it's ok it's passable at [TS]

  the same time and Ogilvy is the best [TS]

  part of that two totally different actor [TS]

  but Tanner Tanner gets my bad i love [TS]

  Tanner every line is hilarious just like [TS]

  the way overly is introduced as he's the [TS]

  kind of kid who knows everything [TS]

  who knows a baseball player knows that [TS]

  Hank Aaron played second base no one [TS]

  knows [TS]

  thank you to the listening audience in [TS]

  case you're young before we had [TS]

  baseball-reference nerds had to memorize [TS]

  a giant hardbound book the baseball is [TS]

  always liked it yeah yeah speaking of [TS]

  which baseball nerds that are nerdier [TS]

  about baseball than me the story that [TS]

  that Buttermaker tells up in the tree to [TS]

  a mod about Hank Aaron having I guess a [TS]

  rough season or some point he was [TS]

  nine-years-old total bullcrap [TS]

  I sort of assumed that was a fake story [TS]

  because that's kind of a moment where [TS]

  Buttermaker starts to turn around and [TS]

  realize that he's easy i have some [TS]

  redeeming qualities left to give [TS]

  yeah so it's a wonderful moment in the [TS]

  movie but it's it's it's Buttermaker [TS]

  locking through it's actually better [TS]

  that it is [TS]

  yes Father look it up there and there is [TS]

  a school of thought that says the bad [TS]

  news bears in breaking training which is [TS]

  the second movie is a passable [TS]

  entertainment [TS]

  no I don't know but I i disagree with [TS]

  that I do like they play game in the [TS]

  astrodome which is a lovely and there's [TS]

  the moment where all the fans chant let [TS]

  them play and then pulling and Tanner [TS]

  Boyle has this moment in the in the Sun [TS]

  if you like the Tanner Boyle character [TS]

  had no the the day certainly do not [TS]

  watch the bad news bears go to Japan [TS]

  when your mark Easter's are Tony Curtis [TS]

  from me just children we just slide and [TS]

  yep [TS]

  yeah Wow and they go to join after the [TS]

  title spoilers [TS]

  it's in the night yeah we already called [TS]

  out Vic Morrow for being so superb at [TS]

  being awful in this [TS]

  yeah I think I think joyce Van Patten [TS]

  deserves almost much credit yeah he's [TS]

  terrible has happened baby what is your [TS]

  problem really awful choose related to [TS]

  mama Gehrig and I think probably the [TS]

  best seed is where she comes out and [TS]

  presents that pitiful second-place [TS]

  treasure [TS]

  smarmy grin on her face I would like to [TS]

  briefly make a couple quick points1 [TS]

  Engelberg is not that fat [TS]

  these days hmm ya see mi 617 all three [TS]

  boobies wild and offer a character whose [TS]

  only character trait is fat and always [TS]

  eating i want circus great fat he's also [TS]

  foul mouth that doesn't really stick out [TS]

  much [TS]

  ok mommy i'll give you he's no fat boy [TS]

  from greatest show on her i laughed out [TS]

  loud at the scene where they jump over [TS]

  the fence and he he just bites into the [TS]

  the candy and I think to myself [TS]

  do you just eat that with the Rambler [TS]

  member and then they'll be the great [TS]

  local PD says could you at least take [TS]

  off the record I kind of like the fact [TS]

  that on this team of rejects the reject [TS]

  who's that way because he's a geek is [TS]

  probably the least reject full of all [TS]

  hungry yeah and when they go to the [TS]

  ballet class he's eating an entire [TS]

  bucket of fried chicken himself but he's [TS]

  nice enough to offer it to one of the [TS]

  random ladies want to be yeah and that [TS]

  is my favorite Tanner Boyle moment [TS]

  you've talked about where the late Bell [TS]

  teacher says I'm trying to teach a class [TS]

  here you're not doing a very good job of [TS]

  it no one here can dance for bettors [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah yeahs that dance classes [TS]

  really not very good that it is bad and [TS]

  no deal is not particularly good idea no [TS]

  she's not she really should work on a [TS]

  curveball I also want to highlight how [TS]

  wonderful that Joey's revenge scene is [TS]

  where after he's been slapped to the [TS]

  mound his responses that it's one [TS]

  straight back to him and he just brings [TS]

  up all the cum batter thrown into his [TS]

  mitt yeah it's a mystery it's attacked [TS]

  with a brick wall out yeah yeah that [TS]

  that is a great moment [TS]

  Engelbert gets the inside the park [TS]

  homerun he still is still terrible is [TS]

  still the worst bear but I think that's [TS]

  gonna be scored as defensive [TS]

  indifference [TS]

  yeah maybe fielder's choice something I [TS]

  was for the first time watching this [TS]

  time was that in the end credits there's [TS]

  a section where they list the bears and [TS]

  there's actually a part that says the [TS]

  bears at the top and they have all the [TS]

  kids that they're on the team and butter [TS]

  maker and Joey Turner actually is [TS]

  included in that grouping he's [TS]

  considered a member of the Bears [TS]

  presumably because of his turnaround are [TS]

  you [TS]

  also a little a little thing that i love [TS]

  is that on the scoreboard this league [TS]

  has got nice printed signs for the names [TS]

  of all the TN the six core teams and in [TS]

  the scoreboard those those teams are [TS]

  always with their names on the signs and [TS]

  then handwritten in a scroll is better [TS]

  because they don't merit a sign [TS]

  throughout the season nobody ever said [TS]

  they might be back next week should we [TS]

  know [TS]

  nope no they're not even back in the [TS]

  final game people were leaving the [TS]

  stands during the last better [TS]

  yeah 20 lb traffic or so these are the [TS]

  better and help you gotta get to the [TS]

  dennys for the celebratory to enter [TS]

  their parents of the indigent in this [TS]

  they're all going to come out and drive [TS]

  everybody home you can stay for one more [TS]

  batter guys they're going to warm up the [TS]

  AC is hot out there to la la land was [TS]

  ours [TS]

  ya know northern san fernando valley is [TS]

  quite awful out there really no humanity [TS]

  lives in San Fernando Valley [TS]

  I love that last scene where the camera [TS]

  pulls back and and what we see is on one [TS]

  side we see the Bears all happy and [TS]

  celebrating and pouring beer on each [TS]

  other because they lost and on the other [TS]

  side you see the Yankees sort of quietly [TS]

  walking away with their gigantic trophy [TS]

  it's such a nice contrast yeah yeah i [TS]

  also just like that the White Sox are [TS]

  another team with problems like it's not [TS]

  that the bad news bears are awful [TS]

  everybody else is perfect the way tax [TS]

  couldn't even put together nine kids [TS]

  right someone had to go to a face some [TS]

  of them some of them had the flu some of [TS]

  them where the faith vent money you got [TS]

  a bit dodgy athletics the Athletics you [TS]

  know they're the worst team in the [TS]

  league [TS]

  well second word sends us i love letter [TS]

  yeah the source the source of this the [TS]

  name of this movie is it's really kind [TS]

  of sweep we're playing the Athletics [TS]

  what does that mean bad news for the [TS]

  Athletics that was really sweet I like [TS]

  one of things i enjoy again as a as a [TS]

  really awful baseball Kiku should not be [TS]

  having conversations with civilized [TS]

  human beings is it like really [TS]

  determining why they picked the team [TS]

  that got us the bigger pic pick the team [TS]

  names that they did because the [TS]

  Athletics are picked because [TS]

  in 1976 hey they recently won three [TS]

  World Series in a row and the White Sox [TS]

  and the matsuri are all teams and yeah [TS]

  and the Yankees of course of the Yankees [TS]

  so why not [TS]

  but but it just it's one of those things [TS]

  i find fascinating just like deciding he [TS]

  should really like Reggie Jackson as [TS]

  opposed to and Karen and erin was in the [TS]

  last year of his career in 97 may have a [TS]

  problem [TS]

  this yeah i understand that if you want [TS]

  to set up a team to be the bad guys just [TS]

  call him the yanks call me out there and [TS]

  it's easy to what i like is that they're [TS]

  all models on major league baseball [TS]

  teams and then the Bears are not even [TS]

  like know they're just there and there's [TS]

  team within the stupid hat with the bear [TS]

  on it and it's just it's like yeah I [TS]

  love that team photo that's used both in [TS]

  the in the credits and and earlier in [TS]

  the movie where we're butter makers hold [TS]

  his beer and ankle Bert can't be [TS]

  bothered to but not sure I can't button [TS]

  his shirt he's physically own column and [TS]

  separate now exactly such an awful team [TS]

  and yet endearing remains my scrappy [TS]

  they are like a whole team of David [TS]

  Eckstein oh except for heli codes [TS]

  claimed he was hitting 841 if I would [TS]

  walk him to it now absolutely but he's [TS]

  telling that to the to like 40 year old [TS]

  woman have dance class [TS]

  yeah he's trying to impress just like in [TS]

  pride of the Yankees if you're somebody [TS]

  tries to intentionally walk you you [TS]

  reach for that ball [TS]

  that's right yeah intentional walks are [TS]

  for suckers good movie [TS]

  yeah yeah that's fine it's really yeah i [TS]

  loved it actually yeah it's it's a [TS]

  really good one [TS]

  this has been an excellent addition of [TS]

  the old movie club i believe and a [TS]

  fitting for the beginning of the [TS]

  baseball season it's been a grand slam [TS]

  oh wow breakfast brought to you by [TS]

  nearby when you think of Jenny's think [TS]

  of a repulsive [TS]

  she just like I do it [TS]

  yeah moons over my hammy thinking [TS]

  getting your kids slapped in front of [TS]

  everyone [TS]

  Danny's for child apiece so many nice [TS]

  little details in this movie I like the [TS]

  Chico's Bail Bonds has a logo of the [TS]

  liberty bell with the crack in it and [TS]

  let freedom reign the motto is a good [TS]

  memory [TS]

  alright time to wrap up this edition of [TS]

  the old movie club Steve let's thanks [TS]

  for being here [TS]

  Jason tonight I consider myself the [TS]

  luckiest panelist on the face of this [TS]

  earth [TS]

  well put David Laura thank you babe all [TS]

  ok that's what I'm going off into the [TS]

  shadows [TS]

  yeah that's what we slice it into the [TS]

  air and very poignant I said weeping but [TS]

  what you couldn't see because this is a [TS]

  podcast is him walking up a job as [TS]

  alright it's exactly what you saw and [TS]

  there he goes into the tunnel mighty [TS]

  Ashley thank you i'm going to restrict [TS]

  my bad news bears group to just saying [TS]

  crud as all the other one thing i would [TS]

  probably get out would be good by you [TS]

  booger-eating moron done that and you [TS]

  didn't ya [TS]

  Erica and sign thank you for being here [TS]

  and watching movies from the forties in [TS]

  another movie that was gross and the [TS]

  other movie yeah I'm just gonna go back [TS]

  and do some scrapbooking in the jigsaw [TS]

  puzzle at this kind i think very nice [TS]

  it's going to be a scrap book that tells [TS]

  the story of Lou Gehrig's career that [TS]

  every awesome IRA compressing fresh [TS]

  flowers into your scrapbook by the way [TS]

  oh yeah maybe you can make a scrapbook [TS]

  about this podcast got a page about the [TS]

  time we talked about Gary again [TS]

  no but she does that then all of a [TS]

  sudden by the time she gets to the end [TS]

  of the year 2030 oh my god [TS]

  sure and one of us will die a horrible [TS]

  that's how time passes and movies is [TS]

  scrapbooks you kidding [TS]

  scrapbooks are the silent killer you [TS]

  think they really don't buy a calendar [TS]

  with a page a day that's cool yeah [TS]

  that's really well don't don't put it [TS]

  near fan where they might blow pages off [TS]

  oh yeah and Phil Michaels thank you for [TS]

  the selections these were excellent [TS]

  we'll have to come back maybe next year [TS]

  next season and do a a [TS]

  podcast about all the other many [TS]

  baseball movies that are out there but [TS]

  these were to excellence elections and I [TS]

  i enjoyed them both and i absolutely [TS]

  love the bad news bears so thank you for [TS]

  choosing them [TS]

  Jason I don't care if I ever come back [TS]

  foot and everybody out there happy [TS]

  baseball season thanks for listening to [TS]

  be uncomfortable we hope you enjoyed [TS]

  listening to old movie club will be back [TS]

  again with another one at some point if [TS]

  we don't die of old age between now and [TS]

  then [TS]

  thanks for listening goodbye [TS]

  the crack of the bat the roar of the [TS]

  crowd that's right baseball's back hello [TS]

  New York I'm bill McNeal join us opening [TS]

  day live from Yankee Stadium for all the [TS]

  action [TS]

  the boys of summer in wnyx a winning [TS]

  team [TS]