172: ‘Holiday Party’, With Special Guest Merlin Mann
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and a heck of a day I had a very
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interesting 30 hours yesterday morning
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we woke up early and you had jury duty
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at superior court
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wow yeah yeah I'm on voting day I only
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found out finally yesterday that i'm
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registered under two addresses and
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basically that's why I get called
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constantly and i'm gerry crack i always
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get called i always get picked and no
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matter what i say they're like ahead
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it's great we could really use you so
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and it in this case Superior Court oh my
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god what's going to be long story short
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three of us go to the polling station my
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daughter drops in the ballot Hillary
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Clinton I go to jury duty i narrowly
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narrowly avoid a multi-month attempted
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murder a jury duty junk John Gruber I'm
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literally rocking in my seat and making
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this noise who I i won't drag this out
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but basically i pleaded hardship even
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though they said they're probably not
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gonna let us off for that is Stanley got
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deferred I walk up six street when he
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was 16 I am I I you know what it I am
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oddly familiar with six street and film
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you don't you don't c 63 you don't
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forget six-string okay lock up 63 and it
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is it's it's like godspeed you black
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emperor song it's just a lot of people
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with stores and amputations I saw
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sobbing man pooping on the street
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there's a lot of screaming and dogs and
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it's basically it's like the end of the
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world and that was my morning up to
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about 11 30 so then I just went home and
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started rocking at home I couldn't even
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I'm just rockin point who because I'm
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already i'm home i'm sorry monopolizing
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your show but I've been them I don't
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make a big deal about it because I think
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it's unseemly it was a bad start it was
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a bad start to a bad day and I hope that
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it would those would all be good good
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portents that but that was my morning
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yeah there would how you feel you have a
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no there's nothing I think you and I owe
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it to the world we owe it to America
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we're gonna we're going to do this show
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and we're going to do a show for
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everybody okay you don't want to be an
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are you with me so far I'm so with you
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you give you can get notes
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we're gonna get notes because we're
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gonna miss some people
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well we're trying to scoop up everybody
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we're trying to work we're where we I
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don't know we've got the scoop
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we're coming in for everybody
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are you having a holiday party there at
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all haha holiday party
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Merlin we're coming in where we're
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coming in with the scoop for coming in
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yeah I don't try to pick everybody up
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yeah okay and we're gonna miss some
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people there's no doubt about it there's
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no way maybe you can get every person
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that you for annular right and I we're
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gonna miss some people yeah this is an
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epidemic diet in my opinion this is the
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most special episode of this podcast
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I've ever recorded
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I've recorded many Star Wars that was
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your reason that still your record
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holder yeah oh of course its star wars
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episodes are around 8 episode 8 hours
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ok and you know mean we've had
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I mean we've been Harrison Ford on we
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value our camel on he seems a lot nicer
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Carrie Fisher I mean some very special
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yeah for those episodes nothing is going
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to compare to this episode of the show
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and out i will tell you sure no no
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pressure well there was only 13 we're
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trying to scoop up everybody which we're
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gonna miss some people
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well I will tell you this i am i'm going
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to be honest open kimono I'm opening the
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I'm not happy with the election results
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I think I honestly fear for the state of
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Western democracy
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yeah I absolutely positively had too
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much to drink last night huh
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and when I woke up this morning I
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thought there's only one person i can
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ask to be on my show today and it's
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Merlin net below and i will say this you
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know I reached out to you for this very
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special emergency pacific right because
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I'll tell you what I i am in general I
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try I try to go once a week and once we
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would have put me like a couple of days
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before the election and a couple of days
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ago I was too pre-election obsessed and
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I thought nobody wants to hear be able
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to create pre-election obsessed John
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Gruber I talk about the keyboard on the
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new macbook pro right i mean who the
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fuck cares about the goddamn key travel
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on the macbook pro two or three days
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before the end of Western civilization
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and so I thought I can't do it I
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probably should have I should have just
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done like a regular show just called
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multiple again you know I mean have you
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know could you also you as a person you
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enjoy you enjoy winning franchise with a
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oh I do I and one thing I've learned
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from you and share with a lot of people
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is that distinction you made one time I
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think on this program talking about how
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there's numbers people in in baseball
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and there's story people have you know
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with regard to fans and I still actually
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I still think about that a lot and it
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did have an effect on how I think about
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sports as a thing but i'm not trying to
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take the piss I mean you you like you
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know you like the like the Yankees you
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like with Cowboys right yeah you like
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you like these teams with a storied past
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who are going to win so it makes sense
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for you to wait until the inevitable win
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that to be able to talk about it in a
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way that's I don't know for celebratory
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I mean why be jittery on air because it
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all seemed like it was going in the
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mostly mostly I mean this is that mean I
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don't even know where to begin
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I know I I tell you this I we got last
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night and I early on early on i started
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tweeting less because you know what I
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started thinking like you know what i
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like to do and I think people who you
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know certainly people who listen to the
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show but people follow me on twitter
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certainly know like to tweet during
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sporting events I care about and it is a
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similar feeling in my stomach when
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there's like a sporting event I care
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about and and election I care about but
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then there's the difference and the
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difference is that sports don't mean
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anything that and that's kind of the fun
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part about sports and I know that
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there's everything everything that
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everything that's wonderful about sports
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is what the fan brings to it right you
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can choose to bring all different kinds
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of history and expectations and import
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but like you you get to pick what you're
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going to be very emotional about and you
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get the kind of on some rational level
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you get to decide why those steaks are
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important right like if six months ago
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you you something happened and and you
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had a terrible head injury and you went
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into a coma but you're a terrific
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baseball fan and you don't wake up until
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like the middle of next year and AH you
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wake up and you're like who won the
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world series and somebody tells you well
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it was the Cubs the the the state of the
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world outside the word see you BS Cubs
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it is actually not any different
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right and if they said oh my god it was
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the Cleveland Indians or almost on me
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not rightfully hear this but a lot of
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people say that was probably one of the
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definitely better world series games
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with some people put that in like the
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top 50 ya know there's the people who
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would put in your top five games
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I mean it was an amazing game but the
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truth of the matter is that outside of
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the baseball park it it doesn't really
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matter and that is so I i do i woke up
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yesterday and I thought you know what
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this feels like when the Yankees are in
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the World Series
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I feel like I've got that feeling i care
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i can't sleep I'm jittery except i know
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that this time it cares and it in one
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regard it makes me say this is why
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sports are great and in the other regard
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it makes me say this is why a lot of
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smart people don't give two craps about
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sports because sports are actually
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nonsense and I I kind of feel like this
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election brings out and focus
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yeah there's i mean i-i don't like
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getting involved in a lot of political I
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don't like talking about politics and
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public i have had my feelings about all
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kinds of stuff in life and who knows
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maybe it's time for me to talk more
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about it but I I feel like generally
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speaking the cost-benefit analysis on
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having a strong public opinion that's
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unambiguous and you argue about it a lot
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and you encourage people just to you
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know pick or continue fights with you
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that's just that's not my personality
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it's not how I want to live it's not who
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I want to be but that doesn't mean they
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don't have those strong opinions so I'm
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my cards on the table and I'm that guy
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I'm that guy that used to say get rid of
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all your news tabs like stop following
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stuff the time attention right but i
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have started listening to probably half
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a dozen podcast about politics this
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some of which come out every day or
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twice or three times a week I've been in
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utterly steeped in that but at
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everything and almost every step of the
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way even even when things are not
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looking great for the Democratic
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candidate there is still this part of me
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that said this is I think I understand
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enough about the bones of this country
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to know how this will end up and on top
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of that I see enough stuff from
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different sources of data that tells me
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it'll turn out okay is this gonna be the
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best selection ever know but like I
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swear to Christ like even up until
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yesterday that confidence in American
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the American bones is I think i mighta
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got it wrong and so that's a cavity when
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we were texting this morning that's kind
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of where I am I'm not angry at I'm not
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to finger pointing
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I'm not even to abject terror yet i'm
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still stuck at sitting there in my
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living room with my family last line my
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daughter was literally under a blanket
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she put your plugs in and went under a
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blanket to read wimpy kid because she
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couldn't take it anymore
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yeah and I love is a good books over
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there better than you think but watching
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watching watching that little drip drip
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drip and then seeing a state flip to
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read it first when we walked up a
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picture but school I could do I said hey
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look you know there's he's got three on
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the board already don't worry people
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knew he was going to get those those are
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not giant electoral States we talked she
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knows about this from school but anyway
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I don't mean to prattle on but like I'm
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here today because I'm not even to where
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i know i'm going to end up i'm still I'm
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just stunned by how wrong I was and how
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poorly i saw and i think i'm going to be
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processing that for at least a few days
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is just the the engine of the boards
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like shocked and surprised it sounds
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silly now I just doesn't listen to
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keeping a 1600 which is up so I like a
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lot and they're just they're just like
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we got every single bit of this wrong
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and we feel bad that we told you not to
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wet the bed and we you know it's that
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now I'm just didn't and
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babbling but i'm just i'm sitting here
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and I'm just I'm just I'm stunned with
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how much i got wrong I'll eventually try
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to figure out what I got wrong but at
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this point it's just an unconscionably
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large amount of assumptions that I had a
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fairly decent level of confidence and
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that there is that I'm going to have to
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just rethink the whole bunch of things
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that make me very uncomfortable
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I you know and and I is it not for like
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it but let's make sure everybody feels
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included sake it but for hey everybody
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is sick of the divisive stuff is why i
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would love and I think you agree that
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this episode of the show should not be
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like hey Hilary should have one Donald
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Trump is an asshole I I don't want to
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divide people because I mean it's
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everybody's had enough of that and the
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time for that not not least because
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Democrats are the second the second most
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surprise party today right
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i agree i really i really believe I
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right i don't think they this is i don't
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think most people in their hearts really
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believe this will go this i do i I agree
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and I honestly think if we want to just
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for a moment get a little political that
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done deal but seriously yet Donald
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Trump's win is not a Republican when
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it's a trump win it what what he is and
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what he represents and what drove his
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victory has almost nothing to do with
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the Republican Party I but I i would
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like for this episode of the show to be
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for everybody and I will just tell you
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that I my son who is not i wouldn't
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think is political because he's he's 12
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you know i mean it's it's he's way too
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young to be political
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before we send him to bed last night
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we're watching the results it they were
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not you know they were obviously heading
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towards where we are and he said that
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his stomach felt bad and I i mean it it
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killed me because what am I going to say
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to one you know I mean it's like yeah
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okay i mean i think i think maybe less
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wise to get older kids kids pick up a
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lot from the people around them
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particularly parents doesn't mean
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they're gonna listen to put on their
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shoes but they can read a lot of the
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emotional temperature and very much
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pressure in the room and I think and
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we've talked a lot about the selection
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at home a lot a lot a lot and but i
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think the difference here is it it's not
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that my team didn't win
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it's that maybe I just don't understand
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baseball anymore right and right that's
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that's a very different kind of thing to
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process and I think that's apart from
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the pack 5 were both crying a little bit
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which is never fun to do in front of
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your kid it's um I think there was
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definitely a sense that this was
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something very much different and it's
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not actually SAT and watched a bunch of
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presidential elections but it felt like
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the stakes were higher than we had any
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presidential election in our lifetimes
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oh yeah team is a good run but it for
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greenside up the guy cums if the guys
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steak he's made he'll say hate you want
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non-traditional salads and they got a
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the bathroom just wash your hands come
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you don't don't fill up and help bread
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they're gonna give the cheesy bread fuck
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that number 3 i'm just layin steakhouse
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do not fill up on the fucking I'm
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that's for meet ya don't fill up on that
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and the cheesy bread is good that's it
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7-11 that's how they get over yourself
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you're gonna get one of those big gulps
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japanese car that's how they get you I
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remember somebody telling me that like
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when you went to 7-11 that you had to be
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careful how much ice you put in the cup
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write that that no matter what size cup
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an enormous amount of Sona but there
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really crappy deuce right by the bar and
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the bar and then they would steal
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every week they would take all the
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silverware they would take all this with
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take the sweet low they would take the
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sugar they would take the flower
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arrangement and then we have them back
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hard day it you know what I I don't know
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who else would do this with me Maryland
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honest well we're not going to scoop up
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every single person but now you know
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what's going on here to talk about this
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this is you know this maybe people would
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listen to the show
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people maybe know her on Twitter she's
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same kindergarten class together we we
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kindergarten all the way through 12th
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grade then we were separated for the
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college years somehow made it work and
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married and we're on on Twitter were
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married on here but we we've often said
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together because we can tell stories
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your eyes because you're your
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significant other your your partner is
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everybody was a member it was a public
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pool it was it was public but you had to
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pee like your family had to pay like a
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hundred bucks a year to get in or
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you could just show up but everybody
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badge and you'd so it on your swimsuit
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every single day in the summer
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basketball from like 10 11am told one in
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the afternoon and then it would just
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when it when it got just too goddamn hot
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to keep playing basketball
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we would head over to the pool and
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that's where we would go
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Rick Reese's Peanut Butter Cubs swedish
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fish and the ending your entire
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selection of food offerings for Reese's
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peanut butter cups
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swedish fish this which were a penny
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apiece and they'd count them out it
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swedish fish and and head back to the
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pool with here and there is one before
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you go back in and they had a soda found
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convinced me that they were they were
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screwing me over by filling my cup with
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get my i would say like give me a dr.
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points i have two points to make on this
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number one warm Dr Pepper he's like it
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it really you really develop prunus
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it at room temperature and number two it
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taste like it tastes like some kind of a
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you're gonna love it
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ordering my sodas no ice and my friends
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control right so they end and we would
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god see is that then they got you again
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that's how they got you something well
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you know what the thing is it is in
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hindsight one reaffirms the other where
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you on how much Soda it reaffirmed the
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absolutely absolutely system always wins
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system always wins and and you know what
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uh-huh I and no ice
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president Trump do you agree with me
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documentary but a docudrama like you
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pepper and a and now today everybody's
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election profit makers and it's been
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seeing their flippity flippity flip it
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like come on overcast let me let me
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experience my emotions as my hippie girl
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friend used to say i want to experience
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my emotions i want to walk through this
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might be without taking another sip of
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complicated time for sure I think it
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might be enjoyable but here is what I
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no results r in so it wasn't even like
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schedule I don't record on a regular
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demoted not fired but demoted
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hello Brian Williams violence that's it
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this is something is going on and that
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approximation I have to say
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honest to god and and we we don't like
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it we haven't indoctrinated Jonas with
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politics we haven't you know it like you
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know we don't make him talk about it we
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don't make him think about it he just
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absorbs what he picks up i have to say
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he is devastated is absolutely
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devastated and and the kids a you know
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again maybe it's because we're in the
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today like he and I mean he's got like
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it's it's it's I mean unbelievably
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different you're my daughter does not
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need to be school that it's it's ok for
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gay people to be together
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I mean it's everywhere it's the teachers
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it's it's I mean that's where we live
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this is like these are our friends
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I these ionic and you would be like
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saying her you know p shouldn't punch
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people in the face just because I
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wearing a blue shirt like yeah of course
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not like why did you need to tell me
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that well I just say no it's okay if gay
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people are I I've said this before
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iie and I think you listen to my show so
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you think maybe you've heard it but I i
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think is the most amazing
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Jonas school has a club and it's called
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glow GL 0 W and then and it stands for
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gay lesbian or whatever and to me it is
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the greatest it's so much better
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an LGBT and then you know they keep you
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know there's q and q IA yeah
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qi gay lesbian or whatever is to me
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that's the actual name
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no it's literally the name it's
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officially named I'm not making it up
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I just don't actually wear the efficient
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happen but nobody but like he doesn't
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think it's funny air or clever and all
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that's literally but it it actually is
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what everybody of his generation seems
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to think is like wow we have but you
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know whatever you're into your into what
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cool you know it's alright what why
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would that matter to me and it's like me
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worrying about you having a train car
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but this election result is such a
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repudiation of that or whatever part
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that'sthat's yeah and inexperience
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getting and the kids get it
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the kids do there's no there's no
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denying it there's a mean and it's it's
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not just like the video of the Latino
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girl saying to Hillary Clinton I'm
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worried that my mom parents are going to
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be deported and you know Hillary says
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come here you know I'm gonna do whatever
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it's not it it's all kids it doesn't
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matter what their background is all kids
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see it and it really i don't know what
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I'd really done it it's it's the most
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lost I've ever felt as as a parent
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yeah i agree with you i mean I it's so
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early I think it's at a time when you're
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not sure what's going on you're feeling
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antsy you know I think the advice to not
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panic is is a good one I mean it's hard
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not to but i think on some level you
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kind of got to just you gotta just feel
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your way through and now we've gotten
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through a lot of stuff and we'll go
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through a lot of stuff in the future me
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the inspiration to say here except that
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like you just you've got to keep your
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cool keep doing the right thing and
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tried try not to be unkind like right
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now there's there's a lot of people want
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after each other and there's a real vibe
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of telling feels like there's the
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beginnings of a vibe of finger-pointing
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and there's a big vibe and you know
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that's your thing you know
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Hakuna Matata but like I let's I would
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feel like if I had
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one thing to ask let's go easy on that
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for a while and let's go easy on and
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tearing each other apart or chanting
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other people apart and let's maybe just
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have least couple three days where we
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don't tell people that they're feeling
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wronged incorrectly or they're feeling
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bad wrongly that's let's let people have
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a time to grieve for whatever it is
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you're grieving for even if you don't
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think they deserve it
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i I'd that's exactly how I feel and I
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don't want again I don't want to point
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I really don't i mean i just want to say
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keep pushing in the right direction and
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and forget about it it's so hard because
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we're at as as mechanical devices human
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beings are meant to see everything day
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by day hour by hour moment by moment but
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the truth is you know in the long term
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what matters is you know on the years
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you know the years and decades
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perspective and just keep pushing in the
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right direction and it will work out
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even though this is clearly as setback
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and what I really do think that it's
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it's not right at counterproductive to
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to start pointing fingers
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well let's check back in after a while I
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gotta going to pick up my kids to my
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holiday party holiday party did you get
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yeah I've got to be joining you Merlin
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and where else can we listen to you you
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are the in my opinion probably the
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single greatest podcaster it on the
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we're always you're always saying that
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no I but I actually mean that you're
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really you have a good bizarre gift for
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being really good is our gift declares
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John Gruber yeah I don't know I just
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don't fucking know at this point
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tell me very good branding just go to
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hot dogs ladies if you want to see me on
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twitter i'm kinda quiet right now go two
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hot dogs ladies on twitter you should do
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you know they should do they should
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listen to the show i do with the
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Chancellor acusa to show Jon Stark is
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called reconcile
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differences never happen never heard of
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it that really die femslash rd never had
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that was this guy John siracusa i don't
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know i think he might be an Italian I
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don't know if he's really we're gonna
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build a big beautiful wall with Napoli
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and we're gonna make the Italians pay
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for that spicy meatball that intent
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