The Accidental Tech Podcast

8: Hold Me!


  it's scary and I don't like it helped me we missed a lot this week or last week I [TS]

  guess I was here he says with not a hint of bitterness no of course not [TS]

  John better now surely not I did want to mention quickly the the Dave Morin [TS]

  vanity fair thing because I think from what I can tell based on some things [TS]

  I've seen you know both from him making a few little comments here and there and [TS]

  a few other people including the magazine's esteemed editor Glenn [TS]

  Fleishman who who apparently talked a little bit more it sounds like it sounds [TS]

  like it was pretty overblown like it sounds like the Vanity Fair reporter [TS]

  might have been exaggerating or taking some of those things really far out of [TS]

  context or mangled them somewhat so I want to give the guy a little bit of the [TS]

  benefit of the doubt and as i've i've had reporters Mangal stuff I've told [TS]

  them and it is terrible because it makes you look like a total douche and and [TS]

  certainly his his thing to look that way you know we don't really know how much [TS]

  of that he really said and how bad it really is so I do want to give the guy [TS]

  with the benefit of doubt and just you know maybe the NM float the idea that [TS]

  that might not have been entirely accurate [TS]

  sounds like it probably wasn't I don't know could you could any human being be [TS]

  that much of a colossal jerk without intending it means I don't know if you [TS]

  so much of a jerk because like if I had given those answers and people have like [TS]

  complained about me giving those answers I feel like I could defend him I don't I [TS]

  didn't read the whole thing but I saw most of the quotes and they did seem [TS]

  ridiculous but assuming they're talking about real things I would say to the [TS]

  people who didn't like them you know come at me bro like to do you get two [TS]

  phones you got one for the day and one for the night I guess I don't like a [TS]

  battery pack makes my phone bigger [TS]

  and so have I have two phones and I can't charge it all day cuz I'm running [TS]

  around her meeting to meeting so having two phones let me help lets me have a [TS]

  skinnier like that you could defend it and it actually did defend that [TS]

  particular point hehe sentence in some Twitter at reply to somebody that what [TS]

  he really said was that he has said he you know he does have two iPhones which [TS]

  is ridiculous but he is also a very successful tech company CEO so you know [TS]

  it's not like you know it goes with the territory it to some degree but he said [TS]

  what the reason he has to is is one of them for only work stuff and only work [TS]

  apps and the other one for only personal stuff so that he can like leave work at [TS]

  work and not be destroyed my personal website that actually ok you know I [TS]

  still don't really ever see myself having two iPhones even if money was no [TS]

  object but I could see why he would do that it's not it's not a great solution [TS]

  but like you I would feel like you could explain it and defended now what you [TS]

  can't explain and defend is i mean assuming the courts are accurate is [TS]

  saying those things in the context of interviewing not thinking people are [TS]

  going to sound think you sound like a tool like he would you have to certain [TS]

  things need to be provide context and if you don't think you're gonna be able to [TS]

  provide that context or you know like this not the right forum to do that like [TS]

  say you're talking with your friends about how you manage your phone's that's [TS]

  the time to pop though I have one for working on home selling access not [TS]

  extravagant cost wise and it is kind of annoying about it has lots of problems [TS]

  picking stuff up between the phones is up but that's the context were you bring [TS]

  this up you don't bring it up in like hey we're talking to you for magazines [TS]

  really like this not the time to bring that up so he made some strategic errors [TS]

  and went to bring things up and the the OSB on the offensive defensive and you [TS]

  could say that as a joke but mostly you keep your ringer off because you don't [TS]

  be disturbed during the day and the person says and ask you eyes a lot you [TS]

  know the offense think it's a funny joke but if you just see the words written [TS]

  there like he's dead serious he thinks you know the one of the theories I heard [TS]

  right the beginning reference published somebody said that it looks like he [TS]

  might just controlling them and if you go into that theory and you read it [TS]

  again you can kind of see that that's that's actually why I would say that is [TS]

  equally plausible as he's that much of a douche [TS]

  equal [TS]

  how are you told me that we discuss this when I when I first arrived in New York [TS]

  last weekend when you first said maybe it's possible so I really mean I I think [TS]

  the way more likely answer is that he wasn't trying to intentionally told him [TS]

  and he isn't that much of a douche and the real answer is it was just blown out [TS]

  of proportion by the reporter that he might not be that self-aware like you [TS]

  could if you are that's true it's hard to tell I mean look at look at the [TS]

  picture of the picture he got himself he does like college this dick up and that [TS]

  is true and the pictures are kind of precious and like you would think like [TS]

  someone who is just a little bit more self-aware and perhaps not as not as CEO [TS]

  and current company might like [TS]

  like I couldn't put a picture of myself like that like I would I don't know it's [TS]

  a tough call but you know this is a this is a nine-story innuendo rules coming go [TS]

  and I don't fault him as a person for any of this silliness speaking of [TS]

  silliness I guess let's go chronologically Facebook home I don't [TS]

  know what to make of that and I was never big into Facebook although it [TS]

  seems from what I can tell that both you guys even at your peak like Facebook a [TS]

  lot less than I like facebook but I i mean i look at it a few times a week [TS]

  because it's it seems socially awkward not to never looked at Facebook ever and [TS]

  that's exactly my point is that I think I i at my peak certainly and even now I [TS]

  probably have embraced it more than I think either of you gentlemen but and I [TS]

  think I could get away without ever looking at it and certainly Aaron and I [TS]

  have mostly the same circle of friends so she could keep me updated on the [TS]

  eight hundred people that are having babies right now but I don't know I just [TS]

  I couldn't imagine an entire phone experience based solely off of what all [TS]

  my friends are doing and furthermore it seems to me like one of the things that [TS]

  society's challenged with these days that sounded way overblown but on a roll [TS]

  with it now is that you're never in the moment you're always worrying about what [TS]

  your Twitter people are saying [TS]

  your Instagram followers are commenting on and liking and so on and so forth in [TS]

  this seems to just make that even worse I dunno I just don't get it I think it [TS]

  depends on like you know for me one of the reasons why I've never gotten into [TS]

  Facebook Like I have an account but I've never been active in fact my wife [TS]

  created the account for me when we got engaged so that she would have something [TS]

  to point yeah exactly that's why that's when I got my account that's why she did [TS]

  it but I've never really been active because it's it's not that I [TS]

  fundamentally objective the product I don't I don't really care either way on [TS]

  that front it's that Facebook is set up to [TS]

  to inflate the idea of people you know and people whose content you want to [TS]

  follow online and to me though those are very much not overlapping circles and [TS]

  and I think that's true for a lot of people and that's why I like the beauty [TS]

  of Twitter at first Facebook didn't even have a symmetric following I think now [TS]

  it does anyone know for sure that's a little and it you know you want to block [TS]

  me in like like maybe once every two or three months to answer some message from [TS]

  somebody that I probably should answer the email inflation and and so I every [TS]

  time I log in there is like a totally different interface and it confuses the [TS]

  crap out of me and I i never know how to do anything or what's going on or where [TS]

  something is [TS]

  man yeah I need the kids to explain it to me that's the way the kids to explain [TS]

  to me I know I know and knowing product when I see this is why I know all the [TS]

  things it can do and I can't figure out how to do the eventual I just did not [TS]

  want to do them and I don't do not want is my reactions like I had to stop [TS]

  myself from liking our people get you know there they get all angry about [TS]

  Apple just angry at Apple in like you just mentioned I hate Apple they just [TS]

  getting I have to stop myself from [TS]

  good feeling about Facebook or not I said do like four times anyway we can be [TS]

  like everytime someone mentions anything about Facebook gets here in passing like [TS]

  this voice matters men Facebook like just like a website where people do [TS]

  stuff and they enjoy things that's a good way for people to connect the [TS]

  people you know not everyone can have their own website and it's a way for [TS]

  people to post pictures to each other and social like my rational brain knows [TS]

  my facebook resistance popular but the other part of me it's visceral hatred [TS]

  will anyone and I really don't like you know it it's one thing to say this is a [TS]

  website where people can can communicate like you know tumblr is is a lot of the [TS]

  same things for people so you know I got to see that develop and and and i think [TS]

  what's different with things like Tumblr vs things like Facebook is that Facebook [TS]

  is one of these companies which we've we've had a few of these in our history [TS]

  of this industry it's one of these companies where if something is is [TS]

  having some success they want a piece of it too and they can't stand not to be in [TS]

  the market and the originator of this was Microsoft and then in our industry I [TS]

  would say like I don't think I like the previous giants like IBM I don't think [TS]

  they were much worse August so far because it would do anything like it [TS]

  anyone became remotely popular we're going to one of those and Facebook at [TS]

  least it's like lots of people go off and do lots of other things but you know [TS]

  I didn't make a music player in the iPod was popular tablet I mean like the phone [TS]

  you know they're not as like Microsoft like anybody does anything even if it [TS]

  looks like they're gonna fail will make a failure profitable excited just just [TS]

  in case you know what let's merge with NBC to or whatever the future things on [TS]

  TV they're not as desperate as that type of vibe where a company gets big enough [TS]

  and I i think is a rational thing Google and Facebook is like a look [TS]

  we are big and successful but if we're just content to be what we are we are [TS]

  going to get left behind and so all the companies are looking to see what the [TS]

  next thing is going to be and like you know Google decided look we need to do [TS]

  something with social and I can refocus their entire company on Google+ and [TS]

  Facebook already the king of social said you know we see that the carrier week is [TS]

  in mobile and that is not going away it's going to be a big thing we got we [TS]

  gotta figure out something there so I think it's a reasonable strategy for [TS]

  companies who are very large not to be happy with what they are just get better [TS]

  I did but to look for the play the other things but not everything out like a [TS]

  game console do not like you know doing things that are grocery store house or [TS]

  whatever like what everybody's doing stuff like that like there they've [TS]

  picked a reasonable thing I think like look we have to be in mobile if we're [TS]

  not in mobile we're screwed long-term so they're doing something well the way [TS]

  they're doing it though and this is this is partly why I brought up the the [TS]

  sprawl argument the way they're doing it is seemingly designed with the [TS]

  assumption that everyone using it exclusively uses Facebook or primarily [TS]

  uses Facebook as their communication mechanism to anybody and and it seems [TS]

  like I'm part of that might just be like blindness to people who only partially [TS]

  care about Facebook or communicate with some of their friends on Facebook and [TS]

  some not and part of it might be an effort to actively extinguished that [TS]

  kind of use and to convert those people to like to spread the tentacles and [TS]

  bring them in and kind of railroad them into using Facebook for way more of the [TS]

  communications a previously reduced through other channels like text [TS]

  messaging or anything else and and and that that kind of the wrong way like [TS]

  that and so it just ignorance where they're where they're just thinking well [TS]

  of course everyone who uses Facebook only uses Facebook and that's one thing [TS]

  I don't think they're that stupid though Facebook has shown extremely good [TS]

  product [TS]

  sense product sensibilities skills in in getting people in keeping them there [TS]

  so I don't think you can be any Facebook moved to stupidity I think they're [TS]

  they're very very smart people running a company and so Microsoft you know they [TS]

  they have extremely smart people and companies so so they know exactly what [TS]

  they're doing and I think it's very clear what they're doing here they are [TS]

  they are extinguishing or at least attempting to extinguish any other [TS]

  communication methods on the phones that have been infected by this this home [TS]

  thing all the old stuff is still there too [TS]

  well they're they're trying to bury it is likely to be there to like they you [TS]

  know if they don't know if they're not assembling at least you know SMS text [TS]

  messaging or whatever other thing people using at least a sibling with that if [TS]

  you have to launch the Facebook app and that their subordinate to the rest of [TS]

  the phone experience kinda like they are on iOS right they they think they should [TS]

  at least be assembling with those things and since Android allows you to take [TS]

  over the lock screen stopped now they look like they're out in front of [TS]

  everything else but I still call that a sibling just because the first thing you [TS]

  see it still like alongside the other stuff maybe I don't know why I think [TS]

  we'll see how it plays out because 11 very careful I now have to walk is if [TS]

  they do go too far in that direction of being too aggressive and and not working [TS]

  very well or making the phone not work very well if you wanna do a lot of non [TS]

  Facebook communication that if they go too far in the direction of fewer [TS]

  installs of this thing and fewer sales of those phones that have a [TS]

  pre-installed so you know they have to walk that line somewhat I i guess i to [TS]

  see how this plays out and to see like you know does this is this still roughly [TS]

  the same kind of thing in six months or a year and how many people are using it [TS]

  you know the thing I was thinking about her home and for another topic openly [TS]

  talk about a blog posts doing on this and it will go ahead and spoil the whole [TS]

  blog post because it involved utensil there's not that much overlap it seems [TS]

  to be able to read the blog and people listen to the podcast because often they [TS]

  choose not to blog something that I podcast about any two people are going [TS]

  to talk about podcasting [TS]

  talking about anyway so in both these situations the kind of like an RTS a [TS]

  little bit and the recent that the resource that is critical to victory in [TS]

  the realm of both Facebook home and also in the WebKit blink thing is developers [TS]

  they need to mind for more developers basically and there is something about [TS]

  in that respect and talk about developers to make this stuff is on [TS]

  homer and like all this is just a precursor they're gonna for pandering [TS]

  they're going to do their own tests right they would you like me now but I [TS]

  clearly they're gonna they're gonna make their own phone OS and and you know [TS]

  thanks google for giving us a head start with Android will take what you gotta go [TS]

  after injection kinda like blanketed with WebKit right but same thing with [TS]

  Samsung or Samsung's working on their Android part thanks cool for all of your [TS]

  hard work now we're off to the races haha school you go making all the money [TS]

  you're screwed like they can't they can't beat Facebook with Google+ and [TS]

  they can they can make money off and rugged Samsung song all the phones and [TS]

  they cannot profit so far google did all the work to make Android and other ppl [TS]

  stolen did what they wanted like that's one narrative about this thing but in [TS]

  the case of Samsung and Facebook I had to think like you know does Facebook [TS]

  have the skill to say thanks go were taken and it would take a miracle for [TS]

  can go off on her own and they support a platform committee develop an OS on on [TS]

  going too well but the whole thing like okay you either forked in which case ok [TS]

  well you're you're on your own [TS]

  merging with the next version of Android the Google puts out you will divert G [TS]

  Wilfork you will split is not you will not be able to benefit from the future [TS]

  work the Google does are very difficult for you otherwise you're not forcing [TS]

  otherwise you're just piggybacking so people can make their own a lesson will [TS]

  be a fork [TS]

  you're giving up being able to do say merges with the next major version [TS]

  and really you're either going to be the platform owner or you're not right now [TS]

  Google's the platform or they may do they continue to make it the next [TS]

  version of the OS comes from and the other people say okay we'll come up with [TS]

  the next major version lets integrated and screwed up in some way immoral crap [TS]

  on it right and that's what Facebook is doing now but for kids become master of [TS]

  your own destiny [TS]

  only OS we make our own OS it used to be based on Android get whatever but now [TS]

  it's our own thing we develop it [TS]

  we support the developers like to the point where you could have application [TS]

  compatibility diversion some point the future because that's what a fork [TS]

  eventually leads to ya all this one works on Facebook so as but not unlike [TS]

  regular Android none Samsung and I don't think Facebook has the ability to be a [TS]

  platform owner they do you know maybe they can hire up that ability certainly [TS]

  didn't have the ability to to make a well-designed [TS]

  designers but right now I don't think Facebook has the ability to be a [TS]

  platform because that is a high bar like how many how many sets of successful [TS]

  platform owners have we seen in our industry Microsoft Apple Google and [TS]

  Facebook they they don't they're not making any of this I'm talking about [TS]

  that's the thing is that it is a very big distinction but to kind of set that [TS]

  aside just for a moment I mean it when I remember back to the original days of [TS]

  Facebook where it was completely Facebook controlled there were no [TS]

  absolute no freakin farmville or anything like that it was a very [TS]

  different it was a very different place that was really about sharing your life [TS]

  and at that point it wasn't yet about throwing away all of your privacy or if [TS]

  it was that it would they were quiet about it but now able to your point it's [TS]

  not a creative platform but it's still too large to create a platform you have [TS]

  all these different apps if you would call them that running on and on top of [TS]

  their platform and they've done a lot to they've done a lot of kind of wild [TS]

  things in order to make their platform work and what comes to mind in this this [TS]

  is kinda what you guys are saying about them having some really bright people [TS]

  there and Mark I presume you would know better than i didnt they write like a [TS]

  PHP to C++ cross compiler something like that but that's that's service i'd like [TS]

  a web platform and they haven't API platform like writing an OS like you [TS]

  have a hardware device and you want the operating system on the hardware devices [TS]

  you build up in layers from the thing controlling the cell radio to the [TS]

  graphics system to every other products nos actual native iOS and Google is [TS]

  doing all that work now well not quite a stir with Linux I mean I know but like [TS]

  the didn't for clinics right right now it's like if they have a base foundation [TS]

  to follow but when you do the OS part like that's that's where you're making [TS]

  the API in the new version has a different API for scrolling is different [TS]

  but it's not just feel like that's OS development and all that annoying crap [TS]

  alike are you gotta have API documentation he got a developer program [TS]

  STK gonna make sure the tools worth all the crap that Apple does all the crap [TS]

  the Google does her it's cool don't like and you've got to develop the OSU have [TS]

  to make a better year after year they want a new major version that does [TS]

  something better that has faster graphics that uses the GPU better than [TS]

  API's it takes a lot of people a lot of skill and expertise to do that and it's [TS]

  not easy and I don't like Amazon is exactly how they fork tender to make [TS]

  their songs you know they thought that is their own thing they don't have the [TS]

  skills in house to be to develop their own arrest there inevitably they're [TS]

  gonna have to either just been it's like I'm losing very dead end the slowly [TS]

  evolves in whatever direction they want or they're gonna have to do some super [TS]

  painful resync or another reform or something but clearly I am actually I [TS]

  think they actually have like cold more recent changes from Google into their [TS]

  version already likes of for some of the newer devices I'm pretty sure somebody [TS]

  told me that they had done that but they're doing that they're not really [TS]

  much of a fork at that point then you just kind of like your dinner some of [TS]

  the people who is taking over 200 zone mutating internal I Q U R E there you [TS]

  were there have your own unless you don't like are you depended on google or [TS]

  not like if Google decides we're not developing and retaining more are you [TS]

  screwed that's that's how you can tell whether you are really a master of your [TS]

  own destiny like Apple's not relying on anyone to develop the rest Microsoft is [TS]

  not relying on the other is Google like but if Google just sold his arm says you [TS]

  know what nevermind that enters ever gonna stop developing it everyone who [TS]

  makes an Android device who who is a has been using like Android in any form of [TS]

  the bike but [TS]

  but the next year when album comes out with a new version of their mobile us [TS]

  but what will we do look like well you know someone could quote from Watchmen [TS]

  right now if they knew the quote but I don't but you know it's also induce [TS]

  imagining your head right now [TS]

  well I think it's an independent it's worth considering what happens in that [TS]

  scenario let's say let's see [TS]

  not not nothin Google stopped developing in just like a thought exercise to see [TS]

  if you really are independent but what if they take a close source that that's [TS]

  the trouble even less likely than stopping [TS]

  is it so the licensing prevents them from actually doing that and I go [TS]

  forward basis I think they can just close the door and say ok what we really [TS]

  so far as open but going forward all that will be closed if Amazon can do it [TS]

  why can't I don't think Amazon everything I i dont no licensing issues [TS]

  involved but this seems very unlikely like legally speaking and even if it's [TS]

  legally like politically imagine what would happen there I get much more [TS]

  likely that they will use their their licensing agreements with the Google [TS]

  services to be like you know like if you want to be able to use the Google [TS]

  services with your thing and be certified as an Android device and all [TS]

  the other tools they have to put people and lines they've been trying to use [TS]

  like carriers to stop mucking up their awesome stuff they probably will [TS]

  continue to turn the screws on those but that doesn't do anything against like [TS]

  Amazon probably because they like you know you can't even call your thing and [TS]

  rhetoric ok well you can even use the Google Play Store story like I don't [TS]

  know what kind of screws they can turn out as I don't think the complaint [TS]

  closed closed source but that same type of deal say they didn't a close source [TS]

  if you always under sweating bullets because you realize you do not have [TS]

  people who can develop maintain support like mobile OS which is incredibly [TS]

  complicated thing right then you realize oh geez we really were a parasite on [TS]

  Google which may have been bad for googling great for you when it was [TS]

  happening but realize that's what you are so everyone was clamoring for a [TS]

  facebook you know for a Samsung forgiving Samsung is even less likely to [TS]

  be able to develop their own mobile OS right that would be [TS]

  both of them could step up to do it like Facebook just bought which was that [TS]

  company run by I'm at Sangam pronouncing his name correctly the author of the [TS]

  gigantic Mac OS 10 internals book that's off to my right right now he's a smart [TS]

  guy heavily into OS as he did this like stealth startup that we don't even know [TS]

  what they're doing with a bunch of the smart people on Facebook bought them [TS]

  this afternoon the like you know now he's got interested now Facebook has an [TS]

  internal team so maybe they are stepping up for a bit like that's that's the [TS]

  resources they need to mind 40 if you want to be independent of Google and be [TS]

  a player in the mobile space along with you know Apple Microsoft rim and Google [TS]

  whoever you want to stay out there who has actually a mobile platform you've [TS]

  got to be master of your own destiny and do that I wonder though you know it I [TS]

  think it's worth it's worth considering [TS]

  let's say something happen with Google Earth Android or something something [TS]

  happened where it forced Amazon to no longer be able to pull changes from [TS]

  Google whatever whatever it is whether it's going close source or whether it's [TS]

  becomes really impossible things do it or Google to something else who knows [TS]

  but suppose amazon has do basically get stuck with what they have so far and any [TS]

  other [TS]

  let stagnate forever and just you know build a minor things on top of it or [TS]

  hire some ridiculously large [TS]

  OS team to to develop that which is a major undertaking as you said how long [TS]

  do you think they could go without doing that like how long do you think they [TS]

  could keep selling Kindle branded tablets and maybe even eventually phones [TS]

  while keeping the same rough version of Android they have now and just doing [TS]

  minor tweaks of it as necessary over time [TS]

  couple years probably I'm thinking I might be like 10 years because I think [TS]

  about I know things are matured a little bit it's not like horrendously slow [TS]

  whatever but you know hardware just in terms of hardware support hardware moves [TS]

  on like it you know ten years on the phones are you using 64 bit system on [TS]

  chips and they're gonna have a 32 bit OS and so like right away just forget it [TS]

  you need to do something they're not gonna be maybe those those chips only [TS]

  one run 32 bits like you have that the solution for fat by areas and [TS]

  may be different architecture may be there on x86 thank God knows what's [TS]

  gonna happen ten years there they cannot last that long but a couple of years [TS]

  they could do it and by the end of that run it would be like boy this really [TS]

  doesn't already feels clunky and slow awesome now so they don't have a big [TS]

  cushion but nobody buys the Amazon Harbor because it's good it's not it's [TS]

  actually really really quite terrible in most ways but the heart and nobody buys [TS]

  it for that either by Evan stuff because of price and because the Amazon content [TS]

  ecosystem that's those are the two in that order those are the two big reasons [TS]

  why people buy the Amazon stuff I wish I knew how many people are actually buying [TS]

  Kindle Fire tablets and how those people how many people were using them like [TS]

  tablets not just as a way to play Angry Birds and read books over John it's a [TS]

  record number of of Kindle buyers this year it's like percent more than last [TS]

  year and last year it was the number one selling product on Amazon I like I don't [TS]

  pay attention to them until they come to play right reading fine they're they're [TS]

  doing I assume they're doing well now because I don't see anyone else being [TS]

  dominant in the reading space but in the tablet space they seems like they're [TS]

  just haven't really committed but they like Amazon as patients so they keep [TS]

  doing what they're doing and I don't doubt like of all the company's amazon [TS]

  has shown that it's willing to step up to do crazy stuff you know so maybe [TS]

  someday they will be you know Jeff Bezos to wake up and say you know what we know [TS]

  as team higher everybody we won't be able to make any money for another two [TS]

  decades and so there is never enough in the context of blankets because black is [TS]

  a similar situation where you had WebKit HTML with a bunch of Linux nerds making [TS]

  their stuff like conquer and everything becomes long does actually we have like [TS]

  we're gonna pay people to develop this and they will quickly dwarf all your [TS]

  efforts because they're you know how he motivated highly paid highly skilled [TS]

  people versus your group of volunteers and lo and behold guess what now we are [TS]

  the rules of this thing and we doubled WebKit [TS]

  and thanks a lot caged in El Cajon yes we are not running the show here and [TS]

  then Google comes along makes its browser Chrome says it will use with it [TS]

  that's great and Apple and Google in lockstep but now developing south until [TS]

  eventually it's like google has more commuters and is putting more coding to [TS]

  get the Nablus and then you know the tension between the different process [TS]

  models and other stuff and they can't cooperate because the deadly enemies in [TS]

  this will work on the same project and Google says you know what we're going [TS]

  too far on and at that point [TS]

  Google is entirely able to support the development of anything Apple might be [TS]

  like but what does that mean you're not going to contribute security fixes to [TS]

  get anymore cuz it's a really nice we like nose and you know like JavaScript [TS]

  engine which was pretty darn good apples in like can we were so proud of our job [TS]

  trends in this made their own and they keep making their it better and I guess [TS]

  I was good but like cheese every two weeks they keep making up things faster [TS]

  and it's scary and I don't like it helped me so you know this is a [TS]

  situation where Google Google has the developers Google does not need to mind [TS]

  from or developer resources they have they are in the driver's seat of blink [TS]