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255d: Summer Superhero Spectacular: Latveria Region


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  incomparable the incomparable number 255 [TS]

  subepisode t Comic Con 2015 welcome back [TS]

  everybody to be uncomfortable i'm your [TS]

  host Jason L this is the fourth bracket [TS]

  in our summer superhero spectacular [TS]

  tournament where we pit superheroes [TS]

  against one another [TS]

  learn nothing and eventually they'll be [TS]

  a winner but not yet this is only the [TS]

  first round [TS]

  anyway thanks for joining us and be sure [TS]

  to look at the show notes where you'll [TS]

  see a link to a printable superhero [TS]

  bracket and a way that you can [TS]

  participate in future rounds be Latveria [TS]

  region is up how did like very can spit [TS]

  this has to be a set bladder thing [TS]

  no no it definitely was not step ladder [TS]

  with his totally normal name [TS]

  uh number one this is the iron matchup [TS]

  number one in this region is ironman [TS]

  argued by dan vs number 16 iron fist [TS]

  argued by Tony Tony you may be our first [TS]

  ironman i mean i'd fit but wait what I [TS]

  die [TS]

  this system is crooked yes I very [TS]

  regional library yeah totally legit so [TS]

  iron fist may not be one of your most [TS]

  well-known superheroes know what indeed [TS]

  some point [TS]

  ok so Danny Rand is iron fist and he is [TS]

  a little bit [TS]

  iron man and a little bit daredevil he [TS]

  is your typical billionaire [TS]

  industrialist playboy except he also [TS]

  knows kung foo and not just cou magic [TS]

  tongue foo he does spend a lot of time [TS]

  trying to keep the streets of New York [TS]

  safe but he also spent some time in [TS]

  mystical realm was helping navigate kind [TS]

  of [TS]

  weird otherworldly politics between the [TS]

  Seven Cities of heaven which all have [TS]

  their own various super-powered warriors [TS]

  who advocate for them and represent the [TS]

  midden mystic internal politics anything [TS]

  like it he fights inches thank you to [TS]

  Dan iron man [TS]

  well I mean you know Iron Man Tony Stark [TS]

  you know I'm you like him or you don't [TS]

  I mean he's got a shot probably you feel [TS]

  narcissistic alcohol abuser [TS]

  I mean you know he's he's he's not a [TS]

  perfect person but you know he he tries [TS]

  his best and and he does so with the [TS]

  help of his intellect and his super [TS]

  power armor and I think you know let's [TS]

  not overlook that he he built his [TS]

  initial suit of armor [TS]

  well a prisoner of war in in your [TS]

  Vietnam or or Afghanistan depending on [TS]

  which the continuity prefer to use which [TS]

  is pretty badass you know just out of [TS]

  like what's lying around and that he is [TS]

  you know been a pivotal character in the [TS]

  entirety of the Marvel Universe with his [TS]

  team membership and everything from the [TS]

  Avengers to the guardians of the galaxy [TS]

  so you know iron man in summation is [TS]

  just sort of like without him the Marvel [TS]

  Universe just doesn't run all right [TS]

  Steve [TS]

  wow I just looked up iron fist and had [TS]

  flashbacks of my youth I did not [TS]

  remember the name but I remember the [TS]

  costume and the character the rich [TS]

  Corinthian leather of his chest area i [TS]

  did a while back line right is it [TS]

  appears essence party collar is very [TS]

  stylish as well it appears that is his [TS]

  fist is iron fists actually burst into [TS]

  flame is that correct yeah yeah I had [TS]

  nothing on his you haven't like that [TS]

  almost mythical no imagery that's that [TS]

  that's the magic comes apart the magic [TS]

  and food party yeah it seems today I get [TS]

  this thing on his chest burns with fire [TS]

  energy to it almost like a batman symbol [TS]

  with that's what's that about [TS]

  well it interacts like the dragon he [TS]

  basically fought and defeated a dragon [TS]

  and gained its power [TS]

  really yeah wow yeah turns out the other [TS]

  guy who wanted to fight the dragon gains [TS]

  power really angry about it they fight [TS]

  later and on the other side we got [TS]

  millionaire playboy in [TS]

  suit how many dragons has he beaten I [TS]

  just asking all of them just as one [TS]

  also there is present in this court for [TS]

  treating badly a genius who's a total [TS]

  jerk [TS]

  I feel like they point out of these [TS]

  heroes are genius and networking trucks [TS]

  no one cares about Reed Richards it's [TS]

  still I think I gotta go iron man as [TS]

  cool as iron fist is and I I he is [TS]

  extremely cool i'm going in [TS]

  no mr. send the lab I have a question [TS]

  I feel like I'm in junior high again [TS]

  oh because of all the comic books know [TS]

  his people say my name rock my question [TS]

  is [TS]

  come on is that a question your honor it [TS]

  is a question come on come on [TS]

  it is the ground irish mist the question [TS]

  didn't do so well the answer is ironman [TS]

  but not all you know sometimes the first [TS]

  he has to agree with the 16 god what I [TS]

  think Iron Fist was under ranked out [TS]

  seed but i will tell you that over the [TS]

  top seeding tough seeing I was gonna ask [TS]

  dan is he live or dead has your thoughts [TS]

  within his head but I didn't need to [TS]

  even get that's okay that's five losses [TS]

  in a row over Tony and Tony its Latveria [TS]

  yeah that's right it's all fixed [TS]

  I know there were eight verses number 9 [TS]

  matchup here Dan Morgan will be arguing [TS]

  gambit vs chip sudderth not Tony who [TS]

  will be hard to in phoenix [TS]

  dan you may go first alright let's let's [TS]

  all agree that in in many ways gambit [TS]

  maybe the worst but that said I like [TS]

  your thinking threshold [TS]

  yea yea so lots of room for growth I [TS]

  think what what I particularly like [TS]

  about gambit is that his superpower is [TS]

  actually really cool the idea that he [TS]

  can like charge any object with kinetic [TS]

  energy and basically make it explode is [TS]

  pretty sweet [TS]

  choosing a deck of playing cards let's [TS]

  admit that's like a style / practicality [TS]

  choice like yeah it's a cool sort of [TS]

  theme thing going on but it's not really [TS]

  super convenient to throw playing cards [TS]

  so like that might be a tactical error [TS]

  that said [TS]

  Remy LeBeau is my way back up back up [TS]

  back up [TS]

  you know what is it with the playing [TS]

  cards i have no idea what you're talking [TS]

  about here [TS]

  yeah mp3 some it was playing cards and [TS]

  they explode because he charges them [TS]

  with energy but then but he can do that [TS]

  with any object you can touch an object [TS]

  in charge it with kinetic energy that [TS]

  causes it to explode just playing cards [TS]

  are like things exploding playing cards [TS]

  yes he does [TS]

  that's the thing he does he also has a [TS]

  staff that that telescopes and he's my [TS]

  friend [TS]

  alright that's not that if that's a [TS]

  superpower that Steve love I feel that [TS]

  my argument was derailed but i will just [TS]

  say you guys started i right [TS]

  I enjoy it especially his betrayal in [TS]

  the nineteen nineties x-men animated [TS]

  series thank you Dan chip Phoenix there [TS]

  was there's no way [TS]

  well you have given me one of the most [TS]

  confusing characters in the edge x-men [TS]

  franchise to try to advocate for I'm not [TS]

  going to tell you about how one of the [TS]

  original x-men jean grey marble girl [TS]

  encountered this Phoenix force and was [TS]

  transformed into the x-men's first [TS]

  cosmic character instead i'm going to [TS]

  tell you about how about my wife [TS]

  Shannon's roommate in grad school mutual [TS]

  friend told us how he first met this [TS]

  person [TS]

  sobbing uncontrollably in a classroom [TS]

  and when he asked her what was wrong she [TS]

  said they just killed Jean play this was [TS]

  at the height of chris claremont to run [TS]

  of the x-men when he and john byrne had [TS]

  created the world's greatest superhero [TS]

  soap opera a universe almost to itself [TS]

  within the Marvel Universe phoenix was [TS]

  one of the most powerful characters in [TS]

  Marvel one-half of the most star-crossed [TS]

  love affair in Marvel and to this day I [TS]

  can't tell you whether phoenix was Jean [TS]

  Grey or a copy of Jean Grey or whatever [TS]

  it says it's just too confusing [TS]

  phoenix better than gambit alright [TS]

  that's wrong tournament would have been [TS]

  stronger if he done a gambit impression [TS]

  yeah Phil what are your thoughts [TS]

  I believe I speak for the universe when [TS]

  I say that gambit is perhaps the coolest [TS]

  of the x-men well Oh No beloved by all [TS]

  yeah that's that [TS]

  super run no interviews I've got nothing [TS]

  left to lose here followed by anyone who [TS]

  played the nineteen nineties video game [TS]

  where you could fire off those cards and [TS]

  I was pretty sweet damage [TS]

  Cherie I rule in favor of gannett right [TS]

  I just so she did not see that coming [TS]

  but I'm pretty psyched about it and uh [TS]

  Steve well I've just pulled up the [TS]

  picture of gambit wearing he's wearing a [TS]

  pink teddy which appears to be his [TS]

  primary costume i'm not sure why that [TS]

  wasn't mentioned it's well mrs. got a [TS]

  variety of candles got a variety of [TS]

  benefits with a lot of them do involve a [TS]

  liberal use of fuchsia steve is very [TS]

  wardrobe based on his determination [TS]

  yeah it's well it says a lot about a [TS]

  character would not how hot is the [TS]

  superhero Steve but the hotness does not [TS]

  come into it with gambit olotels with [TS]

  you know something you don't wanna start [TS]

  to get played by Channing Tatum that [TS]

  won't buy it soon any direction [TS]

  I don't even know who that is okay here [TS]

  we go that helps a lot [TS]

  so your wife's former roommate ship [TS]

  makes a very compelling case for Phoenix [TS]

  but can be so stupid i'm looking at him [TS]

  he throws playing cards that blow all [TS]

  the coolest of the x-men Steve oh my god [TS]

  i think you may be right Phil better [TS]

  this Cyclops better than beasts better [TS]

  perhaps than Wolverine he's so lamely [TS]

  wraps around cool again it's hard to [TS]

  believe but I'm going to gamma not [TS]

  everybody can relax [TS]

  gambit has arrived yeah but advance to [TS]

  the next round because you just want to [TS]

  see him get killed by a much more [TS]

  powerful character than was available [TS]

  right possible we all I don't disagree [TS]

  with that logic [TS]

  it will probably be iron man in the next [TS]

  round with dan arguing for ironman & [TS]

  Gamble that'll be it could be now we [TS]

  move to match up between carol danvers [TS]

  as Captain Marvel she's the number five [TS]

  seed argued by Monty vs. then grim the [TS]

  ever-lovin blue-eyed thing number 12 [TS]

  seed from straight out of Brooklyn [TS]

  argued by an do not go Andy you may go [TS]

  first [TS]

  ladies and gentlemen there is this thing [TS]

  called heart you either have heart or [TS]

  you don't have heart that is the ability [TS]

  to keep on fighting when there is [TS]

  nothing to tell you that you can [TS]

  possibly succeed but you still know deep [TS]

  in your heart that the fight is worth [TS]

  fighting there is the sort of person [TS]

  who's perseverance can flag and sustain [TS]

  the energy and the fight and the will to [TS]

  persevere of those around them [TS]

  this Ben Grimm is such a man no one has [TS]

  more heart from the fights harder known [TS]

  is great for shattering of them Ben [TS]

  Grimm his powers refreshingly simple [TS]

  he's crazy strong he's crazy hard to [TS]

  hurt that's great stuff and no one's [TS]

  ever had to reformat his power single [TS]

  he's actually got rock powers he can [TS]

  manipulate rocks into force field and [TS]

  transform himself into other forms of [TS]

  rocks [TS]

  he has an incredible story arc in which [TS]

  he was College hero handsome hero of [TS]

  millions turned into a monster he went [TS]

  through a period of self-pity and a [TS]

  period of self-awareness as he realizes [TS]

  then he can have to learn how to move [TS]

  gently now he has to be quieter and has [TS]

  to be a source of strength as opposed to [TS]

  a source of force all right time I have [TS]

  to call I have to catch off their [TS]

  marketing go ahead [TS]

  Carol Danvers is an awesome fighter [TS]

  pilot with natural leadership skills as [TS]

  Captain Marvel she also has a great [TS]

  costume and can fly around the universe [TS]

  and shoot energy blasted things she's [TS]

  basically your ideal iconic superhero is [TS]

  a great reason why she has legions of [TS]

  fans and this she's an awesome character [TS]

  who also happens to be an awesome woman [TS]

  get on board now so you know what's [TS]

  going on with her movie comes out in [TS]

  2018 cause unlike the thing she can [TS]

  carry a movie on her own [TS]

  oh also I know we just said it's not a [TS]

  competition about who's hottest but I [TS]

  need to point out for the digits [TS]

  consideration that Carol Danvers is a [TS]

  sexy blonde and the thing is an ugly [TS]

  orange Rock Monster you know how I swear [TS]

  you don't know also she wants me to [TS]

  start to death with another shark [TS]

  basically saying you don't care what her [TS]

  powers our personality our you're really [TS]

  going on the fact that she's blonde well [TS]

  that's an interesting well it's an [TS]

  interesting interpreting feelings [TS]

  dimensions crime hours and very parade [TS]

  analogy several I'm saying that these or [TS]

  related brandon i do say oh yeah [TS]

  order order order to see steve was her [TS]

  ruling uh-oh oh boy [TS]

  yeah yeah I'm just marveling at the fact [TS]

  that and he started his long diatribe [TS]

  with the phrase there is this thing and [TS]

  it's about the thing you stopped [TS]

  listening to both of our discussion [TS]

  yeah I kind of did I kind of like was [TS]

  looking at the wall for a little while [TS]

  and then I thought it kind of got a [TS]

  level of my character [TS]

  no no it's I was it was a moving tale [TS]

  that and he told I a man turned into a [TS]

  pile of rocks by some crap in space [TS]

  truly been grim story is all of our [TS]

  students on the other hand hot blonde [TS]

  but on the other hand I I dire and kinda [TS]

  like the orange Rock men [TS]

  mhm mhm its i'm going to the thing all [TS]

  right Phil I think to the rather iconic [TS]

  Marvel illustration of carol danvers [TS]

  pulling on her love giving me a a [TS]

  coquettish any polar like look and I'm [TS]

  impressed [TS]

  then I think back to my childhood in [TS]

  which there was a cartoon where it was a [TS]

  teenage thing where Ben Graham was just [TS]

  a crazy teenage kid who want to you know [TS]

  sitting with everyone else was it you [TS]

  know group task pile of rocks [TS]

  it's a very difficult decision but I [TS]

  believe that it is in point of fact [TS]

  clobbering time I rule for the thing I [TS]

  major upset their the thing moves on to [TS]

  the next round [TS]

  the thing is my favorite comic book you [TS]

  will argue for the other side Monty I [TS]

  appreciate your commitment commitment is [TS]

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  number four seed another Hawkeye it's [TS]

  clint barton the original Hawkeye good [TS]

  you're not write x times sake [TS]

  god damn Akash is to just to just to [TS]

  unlimited 2 and also reader and he's up [TS]

  against up against number 13 seed big [TS]

  barda argued by Monty Monty you may go [TS]

  first explain big bar to us big barda [TS]

  was raised to be a villain [TS]

  she was one of Darkseid's warriors but [TS]

  then she fell in love with a due date [TS]

  scot-free who can escape from anything [TS]

  and they fell in love and they scot-free [TS]

  they come up with the artery is not on [TS]

  trial here [TS]

  the point is big barda who is way cooler [TS]

  than scot-free see Mary down she did so [TS]

  she's as strong as wonder woman but [TS]

  unlike one woman she's usually drawn so [TS]

  she looks like someone who's strong [TS]

  she's not like she hulk side that she [TS]

  looks like about 65 and she's big and [TS]

  beefy and muscular and she's usually [TS]

  pretty cheerful about everything even [TS]

  though she's fighting the biggest evil [TS]

  in the universe which I appreciate the [TS]

  comic book character big bird is a lot [TS]

  of fun right Tony and she's not Hawkeye [TS]

  Your Honor I I'm floor you I like what [TS]

  you're telling me you can go ahead [TS]

  all right click click pardon is Hawkeye [TS]

  he is another guy who's amazing with a [TS]

  bone he's not just maybe you have a [TS]

  narrow thank God we have 10 this one is [TS]

  an orphan [TS]

  he's an orphan who runs away from the [TS]

  orphanage to join a carnival but that [TS]

  carnival evil they train him to be an [TS]

  assassin and then he decides I'm not [TS]

  gonna be an assassin [TS]

  I'm gonna be a superhero who's really [TS]

  good at archery and he tags along with [TS]

  the Avengers even though he's not nearly [TS]

  as tough as any of them and you know he [TS]

  in fact he's not afraid to live a normal [TS]

  life he has trouble paying ret he needs [TS]

  to talk to Tony Stark about how to hook [TS]

  up his DVR he is a guy we can all relate [TS]

  to [TS]

  he could be your neighbor if your [TS]

  neighbor was really good at archery is [TS]

  Hawkeye also sometimes he's been dead [TS]

  for awhile and he takes on a lot of the [TS]

  percentages you should still see about [TS]

  the costume [TS]

  i steamed i'm sure you're already [TS]

  looking up the image for his costume so [TS]

  with his costumes are pretty good no I'm [TS]

  sorry I stopped on the big barda costume [TS]

  yeah you did your honor president spoke [TS]

  they were kidding me save you owe it to [TS]

  yourself to look at the purple the [TS]

  purple Hawkeye costume [TS]

  ya see if you may go first Oh Jason [TS]

  Jason Jason Steve sleeve do mr. Chandler [TS]

  make some strong points who Anthony [TS]

  chandler and I what I thought his name [TS]

  was sindelar when we started this thing [TS]

  but I'm not so sure anymore so I'm not [TS]

  clear on reaching for whatever i can i [TS]

  can come up with [TS]

  did we pick the other Hawkeye forget we [TS]

  did what we did pick the other Hawkeye m [TS]

  / green lantern full Wow injustice that [TS]

  he'll decided that I did I decided that [TS]

  10 is a ryan reynolds I has just one too [TS]

  many hot guys big barda it is what Phil [TS]

  I'm going to say legal precedent in this [TS]

  case the judgment of a Sesame Street [TS]

  Avenger parody young wet [TS]

  okay help me in which cookie monster [TS]

  points out to mock I cucumbers cool yuzu [TS]

  kini I little favor of big barda haha a [TS]

  massive upset their big bird moves on [TS]

  Hawkeye master home [TS]

  clint barton goes home k Bishop remains [TS]

  that button can't even win it like know [TS]

  the answer to form true to form [TS]

  alright we move on to the next round [TS]

  rock guy number six seed is Rorschach [TS]

  from watch men he will be argued by [TS]

  Monty number 11 seed storm from the [TS]

  x-men argued by Lisa Lisa you get to go [TS]

  first i'm not familiar with that [TS]

  character is some kind of question [TS]

  ripoff is that [TS]

  possibly oh but Lisa first with storm [TS]

  alright i have yet another omega4 mutant [TS]

  this one is one whose power allows her [TS]

  to perceive the world in terms of energy [TS]

  so that she can effectively do is [TS]

  observe weather patterns and even the [TS]

  signals of the neurons in your brain so [TS]

  she can create a hurricane in your brain [TS]

  if she disagrees with what you're doing [TS]

  she can affect the world on a micro [TS]

  level ie the inside of someone's skull [TS]

  or a macro level IE screwing up climates [TS]

  four continents in addition to these [TS]

  formidable powers or rural monroe has [TS]

  been a mainstay of the x-men team she is [TS]

  one of the more nurturing members [TS]

  she is also risen to a leadership [TS]

  capacity and tried to take the team away [TS]

  from a let's just punch things for the [TS]

  heck of it type of ethos and more [TS]

  towards a let's just punch things when [TS]

  it makes sense to do so ethos which is [TS]

  refreshing when punching is your first [TS]

  language and diplomacy she has been [TS]

  married to some dude with Canada for a [TS]

  while she's been not married she's had [TS]

  adventure she did a gambit for a while I [TS]

  don't know if that's a point in your [TS]

  favor not but i feel like i should [TS]

  mention anyway uh huh [TS]

  anyway she's super she's super cool [TS]

  she's super powerful and unlike say [TS]

  Cyclops when she says she's leader of [TS]

  the team she actually walks the walk [TS]

  she holds herself responsible for her [TS]

  decisions and her definition of [TS]

  leadership is making sure that everybody [TS]

  is given the opportunity to work their [TS]

  full potential [TS]

  while being happy about it for this [TS]

  balance of self-assurance and [TS]

  selflessness [TS]

  I think she's great all right Monty the [TS]

  question was created by a weirdo named [TS]

  steve ditko wanted to use comic books [TS]

  about objectivism then he was turned [TS]

  into Rorschach was created by a weirdo [TS]

  named alan moore who wanted to use comic [TS]

  books promoter brand of Satanism that [TS]

  worships a snake god that's so i'm not [TS]

  wrong [TS]

  no it didn't so actually though watchman [TS]

  was an essential step in the maturation [TS]

  of comic books and Rorschach may have [TS]

  been the most important part of it [TS]

  comic books are full of investigators [TS]

  looking into weird things and was vital [TS]

  to see what a really paranoid loon would [TS]

  look like I think Jackie Earle Haley was [TS]

  actually the best part of the watchman [TS]

  movie showing in person [TS]

  what a crazy [TS]

  the guy this would be and how it's not [TS]

  somebody you want to hang out with but [TS]

  it is a nutcase who gets things done and [TS]

  I think Rorschach [TS]

  in addition is a great name for the [TS]

  character because what you see in him is [TS]

  only what you bring to the table is he a [TS]

  horrible monster who ruined comic books [TS]

  by breaking them to darken to Metta well [TS]

  maybe the monster is you know yet [TS]

  it's definitely something is any [TS]

  question about that Phil you the monster [TS]

  too [TS]

  I am a monster yeah i thought so what [TS]

  are your votes iron monster who does not [TS]

  even think that were shack is the most [TS]

  interesting person [TS]

  watchmen that would be the comedian i'm [TS]

  afraid i must rule in favor of storm [TS]

  Steve well you know storm [TS]

  what can you say mean the weather is [TS]

  like sixty-three percent of the earth [TS]

  like the weather outside steve is [TS]

  frightful but the fire is so delightful [TS]

  how we are not we are not representing [TS]

  the human torch in this case as I [TS]

  understand haha ah but storm [TS]

  I you know I'm sorry but bro shock yet [TS]

  you drew a tough one here he's a he's [TS]

  way too pivotal character for me to to [TS]

  go against against him so I gotta go [TS]

  Rorschach that leaves it for me to [TS]

  decide then [TS]

  herma Hill ridings pain i'm gonna figure [TS]

  out shack [TS]

  wow how someday they're gonna ask could [TS]

  you please vote my character through [TS]

  into the next round [TS]

  look down at them and say no I like [TS]

  storm the best when she didn't have [TS]

  powers you know that were shocked smells [TS]

  like the subway that's what gets to me [TS]

  like the question has a dry clean [TS]

  yeah he eats a cold cans of various [TS]

  foods to Angel suit perhaps be 90 human [TS]

  juice [TS]

  yeah it's like once you've had a [TS]

  roommate like the question really for [TS]

  Shaq it really takes a lot of the joy [TS]

  out of it such a question whatever [TS]

  all right next round number three seed [TS]

  Thor will be argued by chip [TS]

  who successfully argued for beta ray [TS]

  bill earlier number 14 seed is a result [TS]

  of a plan [TS]

  Monty who is the winner of the plan game [TS]

  between nova and invincible [TS]

  well they're both due to can fly and [TS]

  have a lot of bonus powers but I give [TS]

  the edge to invincible on the grounds [TS]

  that the name invincible could be a [TS]

  strength while nova is an exploding star [TS]

  who wants to be an exploding star that [TS]

  sounds dangerous [TS]

  mainly doesn't go in Spanish which is [TS]

  not at all right [TS]

  invincible you think Chevy would have [TS]

  noticed that Monty police argue for [TS]

  invincible invincible is 18 superhero [TS]

  who actually looks like a teenager [TS]

  that's the core of my argument that a [TS]

  lot of people in comic books are [TS]

  described as teenagers but then act like [TS]

  adults or talk like 60 year old writers [TS]

  think teenagers talk but I invincible [TS]

  provides a level of realistic [TS]

  characterization that DC and Marvel tend [TS]

  not to be able to deliver with their top [TS]

  line heroes is an actual teenager with [TS]

  superpowers [TS]

  alright and chip tell us about Thor well [TS]

  speaking of teenagers and superpowers [TS]

  Marvel store isn't exactly faithful to [TS]

  Norse mythology I made the mistake when [TS]

  i was in high school of sharing a common [TS]

  authority comic with a friend who was an [TS]

  exchange student from Norway and he [TS]

  laughed at me very very hard so okay [TS]

  granted but that's not the point the [TS]

  point of Thor is that he this character [TS]

  straddle the line between myth and [TS]

  science fiction timelessly encompassing [TS]

  the ancient past sorcery and space opera [TS]

  he's he's Marvel Superman but he's more [TS]

  than that because he shifts from these [TS]

  world from world to world he's got not [TS]

  only his own power but the power of his [TS]

  hammer that first batches you then frys [TS]

  you with lightning he's Noble and he's [TS]

  coming but he's not a rocket scientist [TS]

  he's not that smart but more than any [TS]

  other character in this entire bracket [TS]

  all 64 slots [TS]

  this is the most epic superhero of them [TS]

  all [TS]

  alright Steve what do you think [TS]

  I can I don't know man thor I just I [TS]

  remember looking at those comic books as [TS]

  a kid and and shaking my head and saying [TS]

  well who would read that and yet when [TS]

  the when the opposing viewpoint is he's [TS]

  a teenager with powers [TS]

  that's not much of a fight being put up [TS]

  against Thor you already putting the [TS]

  horse Thor do you need human Thor as [TS]

  well [TS]

  oh yeah that's it that's the other thing [TS]

  that's an awful lot of Thor's but his [TS]

  horse door wreath or I mean is he really [TS]

  highlighting not really selling Hawkeye [TS]

  & Co Hawkeye can God created Thoris and [TS]

  even God could not stand [TS]

  I don't know you know in the end I gotta [TS]

  go with my my youthful gut which would [TS]

  which would actually I feel compelled to [TS]

  look away when I would see a Thor comic [TS]

  in the store so it's invincible all the [TS]

  way all right Phil chip [TS]

  yes if I may call you that you may I [TS]

  encourage it or not Tony which is that [TS]

  you have been given a thankless task [TS]

  defending Thor who is objectively the [TS]

  very worst but my thorax configure on [TS]

  the Shelf staring back at me next to my [TS]

  beta ray bill action figure i'll have [TS]

  you know of course objects you betrayed [TS]

  the member of that action figure chip if [TS]

  I mean call you try to lift it now you [TS]

  cannot for you're not worthy do not know [TS]

  if you're going against nova i do not [TS]

  know if you're going up against [TS]

  invincible [TS]

  I do not care I i hate door and size is [TS]

  probably bad for not work [TS]

  wow wow [TS]

  invincible moves I'll for goes home huge [TS]

  about their it's a spite of that this is [TS]

  the best upsets yes Latveria dude you [TS]

  never know in this brown anything happen [TS]

  library you and crazy region yes in H so [TS]

  we move on to my mother shaking my head [TS]

  I can remember with this here's a good [TS]

  one [TS]

  seven seed black panther or goodbye chip [TS]

  vs 10 seed Nightcrawler our goodbyes [TS]

  Monty Monty you may go first [TS]

  Nightcrawler is a teleporting [TS]

  swashbuckler with one of the most [TS]

  distinctive sound effects in comic book [TS]

  history that would be enough for anybody [TS]

  but he's also a german guy who looks [TS]

  like a demon which means you can have [TS]

  lots of Catholic imagery if daredevil [TS]

  isn't using it all [TS]

  he was an essential part of the x-men [TS]

  reboot in 1975 when they just shoved [TS]

  people from every country they could [TS]

  think of into the group and he's also a [TS]

  fun part of the comic book of fun part [TS]

  of the movies rather with alan cumming [TS]

  and also he says unglaublich a lot i [TS]

  highly recommend staying on global also [TS]

  nice fire [TS]

  nice car he's part of Chris Claremont's [TS]

  a style of writing which is whatever [TS]

  nationality you are you have to say a [TS]

  word from that language once per page is [TS]

  true too far more night crawler won't [TS]

  you write my collar band what was the [TS]

  old Banff is the band's sound effect and [TS]

  there's little pop brimstone yes and [TS]

  then he teleports to a national park [TS]

  never really explained why it smells [TS]

  like brimstone is just there [TS]

  it's the the dimension that he travels [TS]

  through is a brimstone dimension [TS]

  apparently it's because of the Catholic [TS]

  imagery chip Black Panther ladies and [TS]

  gentlemen I give you to cholla the Black [TS]

  Panther the first black superhero in [TS]

  mainstream American comics he is the [TS]

  ruler of the fictional high-tech african [TS]

  nation of Wakanda which is concealed [TS]

  from the outside world [TS]

  he made his debut in fantastic 452 when [TS]

  he invited the FF to his country and [TS]

  promptly defeated all of them including [TS]

  the thing just to test whether he could [TS]

  take out his enemy at a later date [TS]

  that's pretty badass he's got super [TS]

  senses Olympic strength and agility [TS]

  he's also one of the eight smartest [TS]

  people on the planet he's got a PhD in [TS]

  physics he's an inventor on par with [TS]

  tony stark and he's a bloody King so I [TS]

  don't know how they're going to make a [TS]

  movie with this character because he's [TS]

  just too damn perfect he's like [TS]

  Ozymandias [TS]

  from the watchman except he's not crazy [TS]

  all hail the king alright well what do [TS]

  you think [TS]

  check who is not tony raises a number of [TS]

  excellent points however i would like to [TS]

  see in point of counter-argument BAM [TS]

  I rule in favor of Nightcrawler Steve [TS]

  what do you think [TS]

  yeah I had me a teleporting swashbuckler [TS]

  Monty Nightcrawler for me tail [TS]

  Wow night crawler takes it and our last [TS]

  matchup in the first round ladies and [TS]

  gentlemen number two seed in the [TS]

  envelope very region Wolverine to be [TS]

  argued by Monty against number 15 see [TS]

  the is it [TS]

  tigra or Tigra and already we know the [TS]

  air in the cartoon it's pronounced as [TS]

  Tyra alright Andy you may go [TS]

  since you are the underdog just like as [TS]

  one of the people said that the thing is [TS]

  his favorite character Tigers mother of [TS]

  my favorite certainly Marvel because [TS]

  she's just cool okay she's she's strong [TS]

  and fast as spider-man she also has [TS]

  enhanced senses means but she's also a [TS]

  cat based superhero but she's not a [TS]

  woman in a cat costume she is [TS]

  fifty-eight percent cap she started out [TS]

  as a human [TS]

  she went through an experience 10 years [TS]

  ago and Concord continuity that she [TS]

  decided that look I'm gonna die you can [TS]

  either go live on as a monster or i can [TS]

  go on as myself to go on as a dead [TS]

  person I'd much rather be a monster that [TS]

  she been so low character for most [TS]

  career so she's not really tied into [TS]

  that as an appendage of of another [TS]

  character she is a fighter she has a [TS]

  linear story which he doesn't have to [TS]

  like today which wasn't reinvented 12 [TS]

  times but the thing is like spider-man [TS]

  she's super powered but she can be hurt [TS]

  so she's not about healing power social [TS]

  survived everything so although she's [TS]

  fights alongside she-hulk she's got more [TS]

  skin in the game than she hoped so I [TS]

  just think that she's fabulous character [TS]

  that could be an a-list if you put her [TS]

  in the right character right writers [TS]

  hands [TS]

  ok and Wolverine Monty [TS]

  first of all speaking of iconic sound [TS]

  effects i will just say snikt Wolverine [TS]

  is the coolest character and the x-men [TS]

  is the one that made the team gel [TS]

  because he did hes this immortal loner [TS]

  with cool claws and rage issues and he [TS]

  can bounce off the other people [TS]

  he's the one that gives the leader [TS]

  people like Cyclops storm somebody to [TS]

  show their leadership on he's the one [TS]

  that lets a naive character like kitty [TS]

  pryde i have a reason to because she [TS]

  provides softness to him and he provides [TS]

  her with a reason to go to Japan is the [TS]

  best expression of a comic book [TS]

  character who ought to be a psychopathic [TS]

  murderer but is constantly struggling to [TS]

  be a good guy i think that's more [TS]

  interesting than carriage or just good [TS]

  or bad because that's what the story [TS]

  requires them to be also come on ease [TS]

  Wolverine alright Steve what do you [TS]

  think [TS]

  well as a person with multiple cats i'm [TS]

  i'm very concerned about the veracity of [TS]

  of tigress feline pedigree and he does [TS]

  does tigra does she clean herself with [TS]

  her tongue no she does not [TS]

  okay that would be the other 42-percent [TS]

  then that Welch and naughty cat she also [TS]

  does consider fast food to be pray that [TS]

  she's chasing then we'll eat so there's [TS]

  the interesting right it does she poop [TS]

  in a box of sand [TS]

  no because generally where she lives [TS]

  there are plumbing fixtures and I think [TS]

  Wolverine does that help you decide [TS]

  well i swayed me Wolverine is all right [TS]

  Phil I'm Phil last one you can do this [TS]

  power through it [TS]

  bill is pooping in a box of sand right [TS]

  now Monty yes sir would you say that [TS]

  Wolverine is the Raphael of the x-men or [TS]

  is he in our dough i would say he is the [TS]

  Rafael yeah interesting it is an [TS]

  interesting course of advocacy that andy [TS]

  has taken in that he did not point out [TS]

  the entirely lame plot where Wolverine [TS]

  becomes a samurai or any of the other [TS]

  horrible things that they have made [TS]

  Wolverine do because everyone is gaga [TS]

  over Wolverine however Monty's words [TS]

  have moved me to allow Wolverine to pass [TS]

  into the next round i say wolverine [TS]

  wolverine so it so it is written so [TS]

  shall the birds will $500 doing good yes [TS]

  it is listed as well as the area it's [TS]

  but you missed your chance [TS]

  alright we have we have taken the field [TS]

  of 64 1032 I we've accomplished [TS]

  something i'm not quite sure why but [TS]

  it's something we will accomplish like [TS]

  it's very proud of but we've definitely [TS]

  got stuck I why do we start with 64 [TS]

  Jesus it is going on what is going on [TS]

  with the gap it isn't point of fact the [TS]

  coolest X and clear what are you taking [TS]

  away from passing the playing games are [TS]

  like 67 I'll never live that lost down [TS]

  I'll never live that wind down i was [TS]

  going to suggest that Jason read out the [TS]

  names of every superhero that one and [TS]

  then the what names of every superhero [TS]

  that loss so we know that going on [TS]

  well then maybe they'll walk away is the [TS]

  only man theme from the whole conclusion [TS]

  I would like to thank my participants [TS]

  tonight Steve let's and Phil Michaels [TS]

  thank you for being our judges [TS]

  india echo chips understand more and [TS]

  Lisa Schmeisser Monty ashley and Tony [TS]

  sindelar who is Tony not not Tony thank [TS]

  you for being our participants thanks to [TS]

  everybody out there for sneaking and why [TS]

  they're not somebody watching and we [TS]

  will see you in the future when a result [TS]

  more issues involving superheroes we [TS]

  want listeners to participate in next [TS]

  round to fill out a ballot visit the [TS]

  incomparable calm / 25 5d and you'll see [TS]

  our show notes they'll be a link there [TS]

  to a Google Form and you can vote [TS]

  goodbye Super Friends that was that was [TS]

  those three hours to everybody [TS]