The Accidental Tech Podcast

137: Feature Photos


  so what OS updates these days [TS]

  all of them like everything I definitely sat down at 7:15 to upgrade my work Mac [TS]

  which is the 1 I'm recording on to El Capitan [TS]

  you upgraded to a dot 0 release on your podcasting machine a few hours before [TS]

  you had to podcast from it [TS]

  less than 30 I knew not to say anything to you [TS]

  the Internet until I had at least gotten on the call and that much Edward we'll [TS]

  see if I have actually recorded and he think by the time this was all over [TS]

  oh yes in theory everything's going well so so typically the the rule of audio [TS]

  setups and this applies to a lot of things but especially in here set-ups [TS]

  the rule is once you have something that works don't touch anything ever just [TS]

  leave it there don't auction and of course you know in practice this is [TS]

  harder to do you know if you had a like you know oh one time had you something [TS]

  different than you got a you know Jesus Navas Jesus setting you know maybe [TS]

  change the wiring around for something that you don't change it back into pain [TS]

  and then of course in the in the age of computers and software it's even worse [TS]

  and say well you know some people have to I try to keep around an old machinery [TS]

  an old version of the OS the software doesn't work on anything newer or they [TS]

  just don't wanna risk it breaking so there's there's a balance to be struck [TS]

  here because obviously it's very hard to hold onto old versions of OS version 2 [TS]

  software forever and as time goes on and it's getting harder to fall into old [TS]

  versions of things but the same time it worked and you touched it so I think [TS]

  there's a balance to be struck here and you did not stop [TS]

  it probably is ok for me to operate as long as I don't have any drinks near the [TS]

  machine I think that's a fair you want to talk about why people are upset about [TS]

  marketing piece and one of the things that I think marker brought up and we [TS]

  were trying to go for the name of it was loss aversion to a Shopaholic points out [TS]

  that another term that might fit is endowment effect the hypothesis that [TS]

  people describe more value to things merely because they owned them so once [TS]

  you've got piece it's super important that you have peace before you had peace [TS]

  it wasn't super important that you get it so once they've got the $3 [TS]

  application and then you pulled it's much worse than him never having [TS]

  launched it even though the effect is the same anyway people are weird thanks [TS]

  to a shortfall in summary [TS]

  can summarize much of our follow up that way yeah alright what else do we have [TS]

  here [TS]

  Daniel mallets has a short anecdote about visual effects which which i think [TS]

  is gonna follow up for about 12 years now but that john has actually related [TS]

  to the iPad pro and paint stuff says he works and VFX visual effects and by my [TS]

  rough estimate somewhere around fifty percent of depositors use a Wacom Wacom [TS]

  tablet instead of a mouse for RSI reasons I C 2012 people using a tablet [TS]

  not just to do [TS]

  drawing stuff but to do everything in the computer like they're using their [TS]

  tablet basically as a mouse to select menu that looks like tools from pallets [TS]

  to move icons on the desktop in the final whatever it is they're doing [TS]

  that's relevant to the iPad pro because recently Michael Johnson Dr wave on [TS]

  Twitter I think it was treated picture of a bunch of people at Pixar trying out [TS]

  the iPad profoundly Apple does it [TS]

  Pixar and deposited some iPad pro hardware in front of the pics are [TS]

  artists and they got all got a chance to try it out and their views were pretty [TS]

  good just tweets like some big article that you can read about the trial run of [TS]

  these things but the one thing I remember is it said that the palm [TS]

  rejection was really good which means like when you rest your hand on the [TS]

  surface of the tablet and then try to draw it up and it doesn't think that [TS]

  your hand is a touch and suddenly draw things underneath your hand is her move [TS]

  stuff around or whatever it just now is to take a look at the pen so anyway I'm [TS]

  still looking forward to trying out the span even though I don't really do any [TS]

  kind of illustration just because it looks need and who knows maybe I'll get [TS]

  one someday [TS]

  all right let's see Monte Monte Monte good also wrote in he said conventional [TS]

  wisdom seems to be that only that the only people currently using importers [TS]

  are nerds which is to say a subset of Internet users some understanding why [TS]

  the doomsayers think that an upcoming two-week to iOS which is now here is [TS]

  going to cause legions of people to do something that they are already not [TS]

  doing something I want to talk about it but then we're going to go and call the [TS]

  drums as they say about that but more broadly on the topic of blogging I put [TS]

  the same here way before I wasn't even came out just because like all of the [TS]

  discussion about at blocking the ethics of and blocking and the possible effects [TS]

  on the publishing industry or whatever and cinnamon really nail down what they [TS]

  expected to happen in terms of the number of people who run ad blockers [TS]

  obviously interesting that featured iOS is really important because I was at a [TS]

  platform a lot of people use iOS especially lot of people who buy things [TS]

  use iOS and adding the ability to have lockers where once there was no ability [TS]

  to have some of these two built-in browser is significant but you still up [TS]

  for the question how many people do you think are going to install an ad blocker [TS]

  way easier to install one now you can stop by tapping on buttons on your [TS]

  iPhone but iPhone users only what 20 percent of the smartphone market or 30% [TS]

  less than that of the overall phone market and so he's a hundred percent of [TS]

  Iowa's users are going to install that broader the day I was nine times out was [TS]

  just totally not true I'm going to say it's under a hundred percent but even if [TS]

  hundred-percent did that destroyed publishing a hundred percent of desktop [TS]

  users can install Adblock here right now what percentage of desktop web browsing [TS]

  people actually doing saw an ad blocker I don't have much experience with this [TS]

  except for reading things on the web and even I think the nerdiest sites are only [TS]

  around like they're still under 50% ad blockers for like the very nerdiest most [TS]

  paranoid was privacy concerns readers even those sites seem to only get around [TS]

  you know thirty percent last people selling out blockers I would say for the [TS]

  general web on the desktop it's well under 20 percent of people so i'd like [TS]

  it but i dont know im just one number that I but anyway in spirit applying [TS]

  number that ever but what do we think is going to happen with us what percentage [TS]

  of iOS users are going to install some kind of ad blocker I would guess 10 to [TS]

  20% closer to ten in that sense i mean that sounds high 80 say what percentage [TS]

  of iOS users will install anything like it it's such a broad base of people you [TS]

  know I would say 10% would be a pretty good conservative or pretty good [TS]

  optimistic high estimate let me think about like the most popular app on the [TS]

  phone is probably the Facebook app third party most likely Facebook right if not [TS]

  YouTube probably Facebook then like you know how how many people have that [TS]

  installed on I was what percentage of Iowa's use have that installed maybe [TS]

  half and I don't know maybe more I don't know I have no idea what to expect there [TS]

  but like that's a massive effort there to to to reach half of Iowa's people [TS]

  that's huge I would guess on the order of 10% is is reasonable to to be up [TS]

  mystical I think it will be a little bit higher than that eventually mostly [TS]

  because it's not one app like Facebook or YouTube it's it's basically a [TS]

  category do you have any kind of blocker installed and I think word will spread [TS]

  among the people who care about this stuff at all that like get a blocker [TS]

  whatever like you know pick a brand name of the whatever brand name pupils [TS]

  travelling around in people's social services like you need to install XP cuz [TS]

  it makes stuff faster on your phone I bet people are going to be something you [TS]

  need to install XP cuz it makes Facebook faster like the Facebook app which is [TS]

  probably not true I don't think it has potential use any web use it what are [TS]

  the kind of like every other way that's that's a big problem though that's a big [TS]

  problem in in regular people's expectations of what this will do and [TS]

  won't do so keep in mind content bloggers [TS]

  can block anything that is not displayed on a safari view controller which people [TS]

  like Twitter and Facebook and everything are unlikely to use anytime soon if ever [TS]

  especially as Facebook is pushing more towards their own news format the chosen [TS]

  in a custom way in there and even a web browser so that's that's prob number one [TS]

  problem number two is you sell somebody nafta says this will block ads on your [TS]

  iPhone but it doesn't block in-app ads like add that are not in a web you in a [TS]

  bit only blocks ads in Safari and depardieu controller and as more and [TS]

  more browsing this happening in apps that are in Safari and in some of these [TS]

  apps that have their own custom stuff that aren't just want to argue [TS]

  controller the percentage of ads that that people on mobile see that can be [TS]

  blocked by this is probably going down over time not up for sure they're gonna [TS]

  work around it but I don't think it matters whether to actually block said [TS]

  it only matters that this this sort of it's kind of like wittingly rats that [TS]

  this sort of information / minutes of misinformation starts traveling think of [TS]

  the force quitting all your apps which we've talked about nine times more than [TS]

  that travel has traveled pretty well doesn't matter what effect does it [TS]

  doesn't have all that matters is that people think it does something so I I'm [TS]

  going to guess the idea that you should install a whatever on your phone your [TS]

  iPhone because it will make whatever better that idea has legs and that idea [TS]

  will get around and I think people will install a blocker and won't be able to [TS]

  tell whether it does anything and never bothered to uninstall I'm gonna say the [TS]

  percentage might be as high as like 20 percent I'm going to go up around that [TS]

  range [TS]

  keep in mind also before I move on from this point though keep in mind also the [TS]

  process of enabling a content blocker after you've installed it is buried and [TS]

  complicated that it wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot of people you just [TS]

  mentioned in stock and never actually turned it on [TS]

  that's a good point I'd forgotten about that part of the process alright I guess [TS]

  we have to modify do not how many people will install on behind you and start and [TS]

  also turned it on and I drop my estimate down to 10% is optimistic right anyway [TS]

  but all their numbers that were throwing out [TS]

  are well below 50% and this is what I'm getting at all the discussion and [TS]

  hemming and hawing about content blockers and all the New York Times [TS]

  articles I've never known him to say oh and by the way all these things are [TS]

  picking up a fuss about 90% of the people are going to install on anyway so [TS]

  that i think is the one of the most important underlying premises of any [TS]

  argument about what had bloggers are are going to do to the economics of the web [TS]

  or whatever and understand sites like don't want to have 10 or 20 percent of [TS]

  their people are seeing their athleticism problem or whatever but it's [TS]

  not the sort of armageddon doomsaying about ad blocking a little bit overblown [TS]

  and less the same people who are are speaking doom and gloom are also going [TS]

  to be obvious [TS]

  doom and gloom is coming because X percentage of people are going to [TS]

  install it and because that percentage is you know right and no one seems to [TS]

  ever won a nail it down no one's going to say all these bad things are going to [TS]

  happen and by the way I think of a better gonna happen because five percent [TS]

  of people are going to have blockers and guess what 5% is enough to wipe out all [TS]

  publishing life on Earth like no one thinks it's gonna be a hundred percent [TS]

  but not an end I think it's going to be pretty and I think this is an important [TS]

  movie I think it will have a say it's not going to do anything but every time [TS]

  I think about this issue [TS]

  British guessing this we're trying to figure out how many people are going to [TS]

  do this and I'm thinking [TS]

  mean lies best-case scenario it spreads as far and wide as the Foursquare app [TS]

  thing spreads which is surprisingly far but even that one I bet is less than 50% [TS]

  I bet if you just picked up 50% random iPhone users from the world put them in [TS]

  a room and say do you even know like show them for squirting out you can't [TS]

  say where it's because they won't know what force quit or whatever you know [TS]

  it's not going to show them the thing and say do you know what this is have [TS]

  you ever done this I bet more than half only like I don't even know what you [TS]

  just did I don't know what that is I don't know why would ever do that either [TS]

  have a say in the matter [TS]

  and I see a lot I'm not saying Iran by any stretch but I see it a lot in just [TS]

  the other day when we were at a football game [TS]

  person in the row in front of me would open an app do his his thing then go to [TS]

  the task switcher and force quit the app every single time and it was maddening [TS]

  because I wanted to know was stopped [TS]

  needs to like I don't know what I can do about that kind of got away from them [TS]

  like what can they do to stop people from doing that I think a fun thing to [TS]

  do would make make the app switcher I don't know like make it make the the [TS]

  application disappear when you switch away from I don't i cant figure it out [TS]

  like once people know that it's there and they just like doing it just it's [TS]

  not like that the same as the people who don't put their iOS devices to sleep but [TS]

  shut them down every time the done using them and they have like five minutes [TS]

  later they booed up again then shut them down there are people like that with [TS]

  nothing to shutting down and there are there are no idea how long it takes to [TS]

  get to see the Apple logo takes over there what do you do to stop that I you [TS]

  can show them the other way or you can try to convince them and those just like [TS]

  to say I like doing it this way like to be off get a week off I don't like the [TS]

  idea that its own anyway so this this blog is betting we've talked about them [TS]

  enough when Pashos who will circumvent later on when we get to i mean i think [TS]

  we're gonna eventually start getting numbers like the second round stories [TS]

  about this is gonna be like so I wasn't has been out for six months and here's a [TS]

  bunch of popular websites and here's what they say about iOS users using I [TS]

  was nine what percentage would get numbers on it so we'll talk about that [TS]

  well speaking of our friend Ben Thompson is in the chat and has said that over [TS]

  50% of strattera hurry he did embrace protect rewrites no longer sticky curry [TS]

  and 50% over 50% of stricter users have a blockers now to his own polling it's a [TS]

  very geeky audience but he got these numbers apparently by comparing Google [TS]

  Google Analytics numbers versus server logs so I wouldn't say that's a [TS]

  comparison to the various JavaScript things and box and everything else but [TS]

  thats that may be a ballpark but I think also you know we're gonna see [TS]

  is we're gonna see a really big spike in that in those percentages if people have [TS]

  been tracking them temporarily because for the last few years [TS]

  mobile traffic has been dominating so much that it's pretty common for four [TS]

  typical sights to have over 50 percent of the traffic being mobile and for all [TS]

  these years so far they're really haven't been mobile ad blockers in any [TS]

  meaningful numbers so all the sudden like 50% of your traffic is now able to [TS]

  get ad blockers where it couldn't be 4% and 6% mobile then there was like half [TS]

  an hour and a half mile s depending on what kind of website you in the eye and [TS]

  review belongs to me it always be able to get a blogger's another case no I [TS]

  don't think I should have research takes her I don't think they're like a [TS]

  standard reasonable system where do it besides like some kind of like rooted [TS]

  thing that interferes with DNS the system level or something like that but [TS]

  i dont I don't think there's a common way that people do it probably will be [TS]

  there is an 80 I don't know I mean I don't think Google will necessarily be [TS]

  leaving those hopes all over the place but anyone can ship anything on injured [TS]

  reserve the people on an android piks to find out but anyway I'm never talking [TS]

  about as I listened again in the circle to travel in the friends we have a lot [TS]

  of them run sites where the vast vast vast majority of people who are coming [TS]

  on mobile coming and iOS and the vast majority of people who are coming on [TS]

  desktop are coming Maxon it's a strange little world when I was talking about [TS]

  side that I thought like barely started talking about as a mass market as you [TS]

  can get a Slashdot and feel older but everybody are expected / Todd you know [TS]

  let's that was never means to get back in the day we had some sites that are [TS]

  bigger than like an individual person's blog even just like their enviable would [TS]

  be considered in the small camp because he had too big for one person thing but [TS]

  it's not like you know any institution with lots of writers and 15 articles a [TS]

  day and you know I one last quick piece of all up and then let's talk about all [TS]

  the new things that happened a ruggedized phones [TS]

  in response to a couple of shows ago I was trying to articulate for the [TS]

  millionth time this thing that should bring down blog seventeen years ago the [TS]

  idea that product manufacturers can gain fanatical loyalty by making their [TS]

  products excel in in a few ways and really sticking to that over the years [TS]

  and one of those ways is rugged design durability doesn't have to be at look [TS]

  fancy does not to be the best doesn't have to be the cheapest but if you have [TS]

  something that is reliably rugged whether its fisher-price toys getting a [TS]

  reputation for like you by the stolen the kids won't be able to break it [TS]

  craftsmen other people say Christmas going downhill ever never over the years [TS]

  if you really stick to that core value you can get very loyal followers and I [TS]

  said it's a shame that was known as doing that for phones because all the [TS]

  phones they're pretty delicate and elegant something different like stylish [TS]

  and chic in a simplistic enemy lines of these things so they're not going to you [TS]

  know so where is the the narrow focus manufacturers really constrained in a [TS]

  ruggedized songs and certainly not Apple well so here's one example that someone [TS]

  said I'm sorry I lost the name since this is your background while ago this [TS]

  is so named her son in an example products as a sign in XP 7 which is a [TS]

  phone it looks like a rugged phone this is an Android phone like tons of crap [TS]

  all over it but it's like the things they claim about a long battery life [TS]

  usable with gloves on dropping impact resistance oil and chemical resistance [TS]

  temperature resistant extreme pressure resistant protection from microparticles [TS]

  with powerful audio waterproof and puncture resistant so here is you know [TS]

  if you're going out in the woods and you won't have a smartphone with you and you [TS]

  don't wanna try to get an iPhone like a screen protector indicates someone is [TS]

  actually making ruggedized phones this is a little bit more extreme this a [TS]

  little bit like this [TS]

  Toughbook things are those laptops that people make the military and stuff like [TS]

  that [TS]

  thinking more along the lines of like a little bean or whatever with regular [TS]

  person close but they had a reputation for if not durability then we standing [TS]

  behind their stuff like a separate sale being jacket did you get it replaced [TS]

  because they basically think that should never happen and if it does come to us [TS]

  and show us and we'll give you and your jacket never gonna hear from those [TS]

  people helping people anyway I'm glad that I mean this is another advantage of [TS]

  Android iOS is like whatever Apple decides to make it about both sides they [TS]

  don't want to make small as shown that little bit thicker and longer battery [TS]

  life tough luck you can get on with I was like that but Android has room for [TS]

  people to make different kinds of products and so you're someone decided [TS]

  there's a market for recognized phones and they're using Android do it I think [TS]

  most people just use cases to achieve these kind of goals goals like you can [TS]

  achieve these kind of goes with just cases you get pretty close case can be [TS]

  surprisingly good yeah I mean just in case the phone and other side breakers [TS]

  I'm good to go but just trying to be integrated where doesn't look like a [TS]

  phone with a you know I don't know how good these ones I've never tried them or [TS]

  whatever but I'm glad it's out there and you could see it the market trying to [TS]

  find some way to to fill the needs that small group of people have but I still [TS]

  think it would behoove like the major manufacturers but it's Google or Apple [TS]

  or Samsung or what ever since I was a pretty good deal with they were among [TS]

  the first ones to dig vendors to cut out the fact that they make waterproof [TS]

  phones but this didn't look what they were and now people thinking I thought [TS]

  successes and done watering saying it's kinda waterproof ish anyway so much fun [TS]

  water damaged iPhone and if you can help it [TS]

  our first budget this week is cards against humanity and as usual card [TS]

  against humanity rather than doing an ad readers asked us to have John review a [TS]

  toaster [TS]

  this time I think it should have Jason Snelling somebody singing toaster and [TS]

  because something and it was a very large box on the outside of the box it [TS]

  said microwave and convenience of a sadist box was not any bigger than the [TS]

  biggest hoster boxes I've gotten so it was like comparably sized to the large [TS]

  posters and the picture on the outside it looks like I don't know what that is [TS]

  maybe take a toaster microwave combination ever got had a toaster oven [TS]

  slot toaster combination maybe this is one of those things [TS]

  this is the LG LCD sp1 110 St I know that model of course the LCS people over [TS]

  110 as te the best put on the show notes you can take a look at it [TS]

  oh my god it's here it's really big I may give the inch measurements but it is [TS]

  it is really big so it was like a microwave with like a cash register cash [TS]

  drawer below it exactly so it's a microwave on top microwave door and a [TS]

  buncha number pad and although the stop and then underneath the thing is a [TS]

  soldier sort of plot handled tray and you know before I unpacked miss thang I [TS]

  had one idea about money might be an adverse impact I realize what it [TS]

  actually was literally just plain old microwave with like a little rotating [TS]

  edition of stuff and some really bad you i'ma controls and then underneath it is [TS]

  a very very flat serrano's miniature of you couldn't put anything in that any [TS]

  higher like the whole thing it had about you can send their chicken nuggets but [TS]

  that's about it [TS]

  like the drawer and maybe an inch or two of clearance in there put something in [TS]

  there it's like a little pain that you have to use I guess you could put [TS]

  something else that's not it anyway you can't see anything inside there you just [TS]

  slide it in that little slot thing gets really hot really fast because it's a [TS]

  small area but this is not a toaster you [TS]

  can't really make toast in this doesn't claim to be tested with a convenient 70 [TS]

  though this is the least convenient than ever because the only thing you can [TS]

  really cook and it is things in a very flat or frozen pizzas and the controls [TS]

  are unlike the controls are inscrutable I don't wanna do it too much into it [TS]

  controls have one of the things I really want to yell about about this thing that [TS]

  is not a functionality but the controls are like press this one button [TS]

  repeatedly and each one of these buttons corresponds to some kind of weird preset [TS]

  so I wanted it to be this temperature you know if you press big once its 425 [TS]

  your perspective I sits 404 s big three times in 375 each press big four times [TS]

  in 351 never guessed that and be a man of the display and it shows you but [TS]

  you've got a number pad for crying out loud what he make you auto big auto [TS]

  defrost press the pizza but yeah you press them multiple times are different [TS]

  kinds of pieces like seriously just it's all just budu like you really just want [TS]

  at least a microburst Norman the microwave you punch punch in numbers it [TS]

  started and the numbers are like you know till the thing with minutes and [TS]

  seconds in the network's straightforward way so anyway the microwave part of it [TS]

  is really small it's only about one cubic foot inside the microwave part but [TS]

  the overall device is very large I removed my microwave to make room for [TS]

  this thing and it barely fits much talked them into my grave and about as [TS]

  wide as deep inside a small but very space inefficient you really have to be [TS]

  getting a lot of use out of it slide out drawer miniature pizza oven thing to [TS]

  make this worth your while you know I can't think of anything that I'd ever [TS]

  want to use it for the microwave is only what is it 1100 watts which is pretty [TS]

  windy for a microwave oven part is 1400 Watts I should I didn't try both want to [TS]

  play with the circuit breaker now maybe not anyway so I had to declare this not [TS]

  at Osteria it is not a toaster oven does not a lot to us there [TS]

  and I'm not entirely sure this is Lauren holy cow 300 and something dollars $289 [TS]

  that is i mean it's not a bad microwave we need to do dinner tonight [TS]

  fine like it's small but it's the microwave part of it is fine except you [TS]

  I is not to mess up with the other thing why is that even there maybe if you have [TS]

  frozen pizzas but to go hit up faster than your big government but you better [TS]

  hope you for this long to fit in that drawer if it's a family size for some [TS]

  people it is not going to fit I just think this is a bad it's not a refrig [TS]

  toaster and still be slightly more practical than the the hybrid slot [TS]

  toaster toaster oven but this is not a toaster oven doesn't really make toast [TS]

  so I gives a thumbs down but all that aside as one of the things that i think [TS]

  is the strangest worst thing I've ever seen in my entire life for people like [TS]

  me and perhaps for people like you to take the sting out of the box and [TS]

  friendly looking at the picture of it on the front of it like a state I brushed [TS]

  and thus the apartment had that like static cling plastic on it you know they [TS]

  put over stuff so it doesn't get scratched on shipping and I'm pulling up [TS]

  stakes in class to get a little bit difficult to peel off and I call maybe [TS]

  it's got stuck in the dress I pulled out the drawer intended to stay clean [TS]

  plastic it's sort of like been tucked under the lip so we had to kind of put [TS]

  the drought and pull the stacking plastic off the inside of the lip of the [TS]

  of the drawing something I was a little bit annoying to the top in there was a [TS]

  big sticker on top and I am I gonna say I'm a person who always wants to rip [TS]

  stickers from everything but I'm gonna go so far as to say everybody should [TS]

  remove stickers from everything that you buy something from the store like a dust [TS]

  pan or broom or vacuum cleaner or anything [TS]

  a garbage can and it has the sticker on it take the sticker off its they're not [TS]

  supposed to be there for the next 30 years as garbage cans in your house the [TS]

  sticker is just like to advertise that you store it's not part of the product [TS]

  please peel it off and manufactures please make they did anybody sticker on [TS]

  top and I start peeling off and it's difficult to peel and I read the sticker [TS]

  and in like three different languages says this product is coated with the [TS]

  clear vinyl for protection during shipping [TS]

  you must remove this man I'll before using the product [TS]

  act otherwise moisture will build up inside and bad things will happen about [TS]

  a block and i'm looking around like well I just peeled off all this texting stuff [TS]

  in the front and that was little I is that what they were talking about the [TS]

  dennis is no start peeling back right edge and I looked on the side to side of [TS]

  things and events like a stick my fingers in the plastic blocking the vent [TS]

  so it's not as if the entire events are blocked but I was concerned because the [TS]

  bottom pizza party gets hot like when you use it it heats up considerably so I [TS]

  didn't want to like have some plastic slowly nothing to the thing that would [TS]

  be gross so I go to the back right but imagine I find this entire like top you [TS]

  know it's all so overall around the entire top and sides is coated with this [TS]

  peel off clear plastic that's really hard to peel and I start turned on the [TS]

  edge and started to peel off and think it's gonna be like one of those big [TS]

  things like a cable sasser's what is called competitive peeling we'd like to [TS]

  peel off the big protective films than one big things nothing off and I realize [TS]

  what's happening here the top part of this event thing I've you can see in the [TS]

  pictures this entire sort of silver top back case had clear vinyl stuff stuck to [TS]

  it before assembly on all edges then they assemble the thing and now they [TS]

  want you to peel it off and as you peel it's impossible to get off cleanly [TS]

  because it's tucked in like as the pieces together the BIOS tucked inside [TS]

  of you trying to kill there is literally no and if you are serving in a retentive [TS]

  obsessive-compulsive person her like I need to use those words those not the [TS]

  technical person who likes things to be neat and tidy you are either doomed to [TS]

  have a thing in your house that annoys you forever or to spend seventeen hours [TS]

  with tweezers trying to pull this plastic crap out of the scenes please [TS]

  implants manufactured never do this it's cruel it is cruel and unusual either [TS]

  people are gonna pull the final off their gonna ignore that sticker and it's [TS]

  gonna be there forever and it's probably fine because like I said there are holes [TS]

  put in the event I don't see how good deal or once you start peeling it and [TS]

  you realize what you're in for you like [TS]

  no clear and it's all I can do every time ago in that instance top draft pick [TS]

  one of the things that pic and you pick it out it stretches and it rips all [TS]

  doesn't make things so small that you can grab it anymore like the little [TS]

  tufts [TS]

  the worst this that I believe this is the worst thing that ever happened to me [TS]

  for from an appliance unpacking experience if I had bought this I would [TS]

  have returned immediately nothing ever about the same LG I don't know what you [TS]

  are thinking like I just never mind the fact that if there's any part of this [TS]

  thing gets hot like the parts that are down near the bottom it's gonna slowly [TS]

  melt the plastic gets caught between the seems wholly cow should take and I had [TS]

  better like macro photography skills that would take a picture of this thing [TS]

  it's just it is the worst so anyway not a toaster terrible vinyl wrapped around [TS]

  the whole thing giant thumbs down is a robot that thanks let the cards against [TS]

  humanity for sponsoring our show once again alright so today was that I [TS]

  believe it was today within the net last day or two as we record this the Apple [TS]

  music free trial ended for those of us who are they want adopters did you guys [TS]

  renew yes or no I did not I did I'm I'm still on the fence but I still use it [TS]

  occasionally I probably don't use it [TS]

  10 or $15 a month worth but I do use it occasionally I would would you even do [TS]

  the trial I did I did the trial and for the most part I was enjoying it I've [TS]

  never used the streaming service before kind of case here in the same boat right [TS]

  now you notify right that's correct anyway I I never used a streaming [TS]

  service before and so just the novelty of like I can go listen to any song on [TS]

  whatever you want with interesting and that part mostly worked and I did look [TS]

  at the recommendations in a little for you section and tried to do some [TS]

  discovery stuff they're kind of enjoyed wandering through their playlists and [TS]

  laughing at their place I did discover Lana Del Rey who had never heard of [TS]

  before [TS]

  through these lists and I what I did when I discovered that I like it I just [TS]

  bought song because I you know I didn't want to go at night a collection and had [TS]

  to figure out later when I didn't renew like I just don't like that I bought [TS]

  them the old-fashioned way like $4 29 TH and so now when I didn't renew music all [TS]

  the songs were still there and I did every new not because they didn't like [TS]

  it is just beginning I didn't like it whatever it is like $15 a month worth [TS]

  like it was not working out economically speaking for me because I do like a way [TS]

  to discover music but realistically speaking you can discover music you know [TS]

  you can search for any way you could use some other means everything and just ask [TS]

  friends and then go illegally download a song and buy it for it when you find the [TS]

  artists that you like like there are other ways to do music discovery that [TS]

  Apple music and great but it wasn't bad either I don't know I kinda like the [TS]

  idea that I can play whatever all I ever wanted [TS]

  justice just not as a little bit too expensive for me the bugs that everyone [TS]

  complained about I didn't get hit by a nose but I was wary of them always most [TS]

  because I think the music like it doesn't suffer from the things like a [TS]

  fortune Dalrymple has got like 50 versions of the same song from different [TS]

  albums and get all confused I generally don't have that problem if I do have [TS]

  lots of copies of the same song they like from CD rips and I named them [TS]

  differently and I do not confuse about him because it can make heads or tails [TS]

  and just go about my meditative which is all distinct and really just maybe [TS]

  having a good idea said early on your time of the service just doesn't have [TS]

  enough of the stuff that I like like it's it's election its action of [TS]

  matchups are examples not great because those are illegal and it's like a video [TS]

  game music is not really that great movie soundtracks it's a little better [TS]

  with but anyway I would like to continue do it but I just couldn't justify the [TS]

  cost I almost didn't let me know what you know I like it I do like it but just [TS]

  look at the price in the same I do not like it $15 a month I just don't I like [TS]

  iTunes Match $25 a year with easily so I'll just keep doing that until they [TS]

  canceled the program he said but you know but through no real fault of Apple [TS]

  music I tried Spotify back in the day I'm just not the way I was music is just [TS]

  doesn't lend itself to getting a lot of value of streaming services because I'm [TS]

  very particular and I want to sort of pick the songs that I like and [TS]

  occasionally I want to go out into the wider world finding new songs and you [TS]

  are still I can i just bring them back to my collection and it wasn't there so [TS]

  sorry music but you know and it was a little bit annoying when it was [TS]

  inspiring to the kind of me still use the UI dialog expired like will find [TS]

  hide it from you I don't have to go and I was insatiable music guess no one has [TS]

  expired stopped showing it anyway that is trying to get me to describe but I [TS]

  i'm glad ahead successfully done figured out how to stop the order in a few times [TS]

  I was paranoid about [TS]

  really office it didn't matter into everything you don't make that [TS]

  incredibly easier clear but I don't know how I think Apple music on the whole is [TS]

  I wouldn't necessarily say it's quite this bad but it's kind of like Apple's [TS]

  surface where they they really tried to have this no compromises everything all [TS]

  in one thing with iTunes and your local music and iTunes Match and Apple music [TS]

  and throw in you know the Kinect thing which I don't have anybody using that [TS]

  like all the social stuff so they're trying to throw all the stuff into one [TS]

  product and the reusability I think suffered tremendously first of all you [TS]

  know even if everything worked properly all the time which it doesn't but even [TS]

  if it did work probably all the time it is a design disaster it just it is [TS]

  really really hard to use to figure out to know what mood you're in and where [TS]

  the music is and whether you have your music or not it is a really tough and [TS]

  it's part of that I think it's just that it's a really big problem to be solved [TS]

  and no one could have designed it well but they also didn't design it that I [TS]

  think I think it could have been designed better but even in the best of [TS]

  limitation it would have been great just because the problem this is too complex [TS]

  to cram into a good design but it is very confusing it does have a lot of [TS]

  functionality but it's very hard to find it and it's a very unreliable in my [TS]

  experience playing playing songs off of a play through a whole album and every [TS]

  third or fourth track will either be skipped or it will stop in the middle [TS]

  and then the next one [TS]

  like it's very unreliable for me is that oversaw you know that's on my desktop at [TS]

  home and have that problem like I tried to oversell you a few times and it is in [TS]

  these zones are you like one-dot on my stupid cell signal so I blamed it on [TS]

  but desktop it's always worked for me I haven't had any big delays the song [TS]

  start playing melee never skip never do that maybe I just like I'm obviously not [TS]

  a heavy user and I have heard people reporting what you said but that's the [TS]

  thing with like things that have that are largely or in this case like [TS]

  primarily a server-side phenomenon depending on what the weather is like an [TS]

  iCloud you know like bad weather when you're trying to do it's a piece of crap [TS]

  and nothing works right and if it's gonna get it back to like the bits on [TS]

  your disco the same at the bit to my dismay depending on what the weather is [TS]

  like an Apple server farm that day it can just totally not working be piece of [TS]

  crap and then when I do it everything to me find a different time and you know [TS]

  the server the responding now they're actually you know or maybe I'm getting [TS]

  different ones because it's like you know you IP routing for different cDNA [TS]

  over the holidays that that's that's the frustrating inscrutable thing about [TS]

  cloud services like it's not just one thing that you can get your hands on it [TS]

  it really is more like the weather yeah and it's unfortunately like this is [TS]

  exactly the kind of problem where Apple historically has done very badly they [TS]

  they really aren't as good as the other tech giants at making sure that things [TS]

  are dependent on Internet infrastructure and CD ends and everything being [TS]

  different in different places making sure that works well for the most number [TS]

  of people [TS]

  Apple tricia is not very good that they're like Netflix it way better [TS]

  Amazon and Google do it way better Facebook i think is you know their own [TS]

  their own universe over there they do it fine I mean it's just the kind of an [TS]

  apple does not do very well and they haven't it's insidious problem because [TS]

  you can imagine complaining like an apple they like hey I tried to you you [TS]

  think [TS]

  didn't work and they can be like I'm totally gonna fix that for you that's [TS]

  unacceptable I gotta have that work and so maybe I'll try themself and I will [TS]

  probably work and I'll go back to the team and they'll be like this person [TS]

  said this thing happened and you know whatever in the be like well you know we [TS]

  talked about everything is fine [TS]

  like it's always finding you look like after the fact and it was bad weather [TS]

  that day like well you know if you're not if you're not really obsessive about [TS]

  metrics and and measuring measuring the actual experience of all users it's a [TS]

  very easy to convince yourself and others inside the company that [TS]

  everything's fine because look at her up time it's like this number nine then [TS]

  we're we're always up and where he's responding and our response times are [TS]

  good and so on and so forth like what is the end-user experience maybe your [TS]

  servers are up but maybe your network routing is messed up or maybe for some [TS]

  point there were some corrupted CDN that was giving bad data that was causing the [TS]

  thing that repeatedly retrial would ever get that stuff is invisible to you you [TS]

  can think everything is great even think all year all the metrics tell me things [TS]

  that you're measuring a great every time executive gets angry and texture him or [TS]

  herself everything is fine but then when you go to the engineering team they're [TS]

  like you know you try to tell me the problem is like well show me show me [TS]

  what's wrong in every time you know everything I does it works great [TS]

  right or maybe doesn't work for a second I tried again and it works and I go I [TS]

  guess everything's fine it's so easy to convince yourself that there's nothing [TS]

  that needs to be done because you don't have the same experience that someone [TS]

  else had or you had her second and then it gets better and like well I guess [TS]

  this takes forever and ever need to look at this again its server side stuff you [TS]

  have to have a different philosophy than you do like making cracks is making you [TS]

  look at the line and they measure like return rate since nineteen they think [TS]

  they have a handle on how to figure out whether they're making quality products [TS]

  and that way but for service I stopped I think they just don't have I feel like [TS]

  if they had the metrics they would be improving rapidly whatever metrics they [TS]

  have are convincing them that things aren't as bad as [TS]

  and may be the only one they care about is like in the end I don't care about [TS]

  their customers customer satisfaction and it's like I'm high nineties [TS]

  everything sign in the nineties goodnight problems because there are [TS]

  lots of things that are awesome and I was devices and all of them but that can [TS]

  hide the fact it as Marco said things that we all kinda feel their little bit [TS]

  behind everyone else in the cloud stuff in terms of reliability no I'm not a [TS]

  piece of crap it does it works you know most of the time in fact the vast vast [TS]

  majority of the time it's like but when it doesn't work it is just so [TS]

  infuriating and you can only do that a certain number of times before people [TS]

  like you know what I'm just gonna use Dropbox because Dropbox tell me once in [TS]

  the three years I've used it and this is tell me once in the one-year argues that [TS]

  therefore you are bad and once in the year we have 593 bubble blood like yeah [TS]

  but Dropbox seems more reliable and that's the world the server side stuff [TS]

  you know to come back to why why not renew Apple music in my case anyway I [TS]

  loved the Syrian accretion being able to say you know syria play such-and-such [TS]

  album or play songs by such and such artists that was awesome really really [TS]

  liked it I also kinda liked being able to say you know I really like this album [TS]

  just treated as though I own it and I know that's a very polarizing approach [TS]

  some people love that some people hated it I liked it but what I kept coming [TS]

  back to you was I just didn't care for the way in which you find music within [TS]

  iTunes and I know it's so it's obvious to complain and moan about iTunes and so [TS]

  I'm not gonna go on about it but suffice to say I just really didn't care for the [TS]

  interface and iTunes and I really like Spotify you I i mean it has its own [TS]

  problems for sure but if I want to find and play a piece of music in Spotify [TS]

  it's very quick and very easy and I found in Appl music on both the Mac and [TS]

  iOS maybe it's just I think differently maybe this is another example terrific [TS]

  vs teapot [TS]

  you know in that sense I come down from Tweetbot camp Twitterrific is somewhat [TS]

  inscrutable to me and in this case I come down in Spotify camp it doesn't [TS]

  mean that Spotify is by necessity better it's just it works better for my brain [TS]

  and so that's why I'm not renewing plus I'm kind of the deejay for the house I [TS]

  didn't need to worry about family things aren very rarely listens to music that [TS]

  isn't on the radio so in in beats one was not her thing so that's why I did it [TS]

  but there's certainly a lot to like without music for sure and i dont wanna [TS]

  lose sight of that because there is it is pretty damn magical to say play songs [TS]

  by you know Bill Withers or something indexing are you listening to some [TS]

  pretty good pretty good music so there's stuff like just wasn't for me like BS [TS]

  that it's better than Spotify that one time I tried Spotify maybe six months [TS]

  ago for an extended period of his they're they're weird icon of the color [TS]

  of the way the UI looks just looks like it was like a weird nonnative website [TS]

  stuff anyway just taste wise it seemed it didn't match might as well as the [TS]

  album does functionality wise it was fine but seemed to like I was using like [TS]

  a weird way a GUI made with Linux or something just didn't it didn't look [TS]

  right it didn't fit in and just was not it was not pleasant to look at Apple [TS]

  though his stuff is always pleasant to look at but a lot of it I would struggle [TS]

  to find the UI roads and like all you get is a big giant play but this [TS]

  recommended playlist for me I'll be nice to have more functionality here until i [TS]

  click into it I thought you ever did like the sort of it's basically website [TS]

  where did the web design problem music did a pretty good job have a lot of nice [TS]

  artwork and most of the things they present you have I'm always surprised at [TS]

  the amount of sort of custom artwork they have a love for for artists in [TS]

  playlist and stuff they did a lot of work to basically a graphics for even [TS]

  the most obscure artists not just album art but also background images pictures [TS]

  of the artist and stuff like that so and color themes and ideas that they do it's [TS]

  actually something inside iTunes I think it looks nice which is a nice change [TS]

  alright any other thoughts Marco you get i think im gonna mean I'm gonna keep [TS]

  using it because I do like when I when I want to go explore and find new artists [TS]

  I do like being able to go and play their entire album street they were at [TS]

  least most of the songs or something in the first half of most of Sun before [TS]

  they die cut out that part is very frustrating but I do like the idea of [TS]

  being able to play through an entire album before I buy it that being said [TS]

  it's just so half like the whole all about music is so I feel like I should [TS]

  probably try something else instead because [TS]

  and ultimately unfortunately Apple music has really destroyed the iOS music app [TS]

  88 hasn't done as much damage to desktop IDE installed I can still use my way [TS]

  mostly doesn't get in the way if canceling my membership to Apple music [TS]

  would restore the iOS music after the way it was before I could do it in a [TS]

  heartbeat [TS]

  you know it's it seems like a music is here to stay and it's going to keep [TS]

  taking prominence in Apple stuff because it's it is an important business [TS]

  interest they have so the business needs of apples are going to keep influencing [TS]

  the direction of music and music integration on all their platforms and [TS]

  they've they've shown repeatedly they're very very happy to destroy iTunes and [TS]

  iOS music app usability in the name of promoting the new thing they're doing in [TS]

  music and ran out at music and it's better for awhile i I wish things were [TS]

  better there I I wish either that they didn't destroy it [TS]

  music or the music was was better than it is and maybe over time it will get [TS]

  better I hope it does still ripe for as we talked about monopoly is it was an [TS]

  answer so right for a photos like [TS]

  simplification unification of music they're close to it now right there [TS]

  there there lurching towards it with iTunes Match an apple music and that's [TS]

  all you know that they've done a regional integration of like a few sound [TS]

  of music you have access to all this music and you can say whether you like [TS]

  it or not and like a said you can add to your collection now it's like your music [TS]

  and you could actually also still buy it so that if you like I did so if you [TS]

  unsubscribe mountain music these songs don't go away because you actually [TS]

  bought them but you discover them to rap music they're closed just need to be [TS]

  seventeen different plans all integrated with each other just one unified [TS]

  interface where every single song in the world do their part of your music part [TS]

  of your music that you own or like a minute it's it's vastly conceptually the [TS]

  same as what it is now I'm just describing exactly what the situation is [TS]

  now but it's complicated now because it is worth noting that iTunes Match would [TS]

  you pay for it separately in the music what you paid for separately and their [TS]

  separate and you go to their specific type of music in there are ones that are [TS]

  just your music is a hybrid like I'm not subscribed epic music anymore but I [TS]

  still had the hearts next to my things and I can click on them and encourage me [TS]

  says yeah click on my heart because that will tell us what kind of songs you like [TS]

  you're not going to recommend anything to me anymore because unsubscribe music [TS]

  and it's tied to nato geniuses to iTunes Genius maybe is the geniuses in the [TS]

  hearts like that still there's a lot I don't know there's a lot of crap in [TS]

  there and so they think they've got all the functionality it just needs to be [TS]

  like you know history eraser bun clean slate and say ok we finally admitting [TS]

  their music collections will live in the cloud like photos we keep the canonical [TS]

  copies you can tell your Mac to download all my bases loaded with photos on with [TS]

  much much better performance place and you're about to but they have [TS]

  conceptually they have everything they need they've been finally agreed that [TS]

  the files on your discard the canonical copy that kind of do you know I don't [TS]

  match iTunes in the Cloud matching things and they just need to get better [TS]

  about like the sort of keeping track of everything did hey we found this this [TS]

  file on your computer on this date and this was the file and we're never going [TS]

  to get rid of going to preserve forever by the way if you would like to replace [TS]

  it with this DRM free 256 you know killed bed blah blah song you can but if [TS]

  we did the wrong matching for us tell us back like I feel like anybody who's used [TS]

  in these features can spec out everything [TS]

  they want and it's a massive simplification if you just say this is [TS]

  not seven programs in 15 features is one thing that should be called a terrible [TS]

  music just like it's called photos or whatever it's one thing and there are [TS]

  different things you can pay for four different services and it is completely [TS]

  unified and it's just like a cloud-based music library with gaming features and [TS]

  all those stuff so I don't have that also has the kind of an iTunes you're [TS]

  right I don't have that has become of the backend rewrite as they slowly unify [TS]

  you know iTunes Genius iTunes Match and all the other stuff but I think we are [TS]

  going in the right direction we are in a transitional phase our second bunch of [TS]

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  there's nothing like that you order online and you get free shipping so the [TS]

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  Gillette Fusion blades and if you look at these prices 8 for 15 bucks 16 for 25 [TS]

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  half the price or less and I've been a huge shaving nerd before I views [TS]

  double-edge safety blades from you know Federer and all the fancy companies that [TS]

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  gimmicky ones I would say harry's blades are the best value in the business [TS]

  bar none they are just as good as Gillette Fusion blades and they cost [TS]

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  purchase thanks love to hear his response when I show once again [TS]

  real-time follow-up you can get rid of Apple calls loves that likes because [TS]

  like is not passionate enough for a company like Apple music and also [TS]

  probably visit cuz trademark and like so I think any Q llege music yeah so in [TS]

  iTunes preferences under the General tab and preferences the pop-up menu for [TS]

  ratings you can pick stars loves or stars and loves so I guess I can go to [TS]

  and change it back to stars and not loved anymore but what's the difference [TS]

  as the other one through five I say yes and then the loves of the hearts and [TS]

  hearts are relevant to Apple music what I was doing that when I was you know [TS]

  going through their play this and saying like this like that it so it can [TS]

  recommend songs for you and encourage users good keep clicking those hearts [TS]

  because that lets us know what you like and we can make better playlist for you [TS]

  but now that I'm not subscribed out music it's not going to be making any [TS]

  more playlists for me [TS]

  iTunes Genius is still there but probably is I was disabled I don't use [TS]

  iTunes either crash or garbled memory until memory was exhausted on my machine [TS]

  which is always fun and I'd watch it in the process things to grow to like a [TS]

  gigabyte a minute right and that that has bad effects after not too many men [TS]

  and the only way to get it to stop back in the day with me to deactivate genius [TS]

  I have had it off everywhere like every time I launch iTunes a bit like trying [TS]

  to send genes that I gotta stop don't do that whatever it is you're doing not [TS]

  going to do well stop anyway I think this confusing dunno what do you wanna [TS]

  wear the pyjamas with stars or would you prefer the pyjamas of cars read that [TS]

  book all the time but [TS]

  Centerpoint book its reference don't worry about it I I know I know a lot of [TS]

  her books that are 98 little Pookie anyway moving on so I received an iPhone [TS]

  success and Aaron received a iphone success Marco I presume you and TIFF [TS]

  both received iPhone successes [TS]

  that's right that makes everybody in the world except John that is correct I have [TS]

  an in-house eventually gonna get one just think of all the things you could [TS]

  be forced pushing in the meantime I know that the trial and it worked I was [TS]

  excited by it [TS]

  this is the big story I think ever now that everyone has their successes you [TS]

  guys have it around the world watered on day one has their thing the word on the [TS]

  street is that 3G touch please don't call it for us touch anymore is the bees [TS]

  knees I would agree with that [TS]

  with an asterisk I think it's very cool I think it's going to be even cooler the [TS]

  problems I have a 3G touch the biggest one is to forget that attained and so I [TS]

  don't think to try it and the other problem is the lot of third-party apps [TS]

  just haven't embraced yet which I mean it's not their party developers faults [TS]

  the they barely had any time with it so far but like when I discovered it and [TS]

  Instagram I just thought it was the most amazing thing ever and I've been treaty [TS]

  touching all the things which is kind of funny because because most of the itouch [TS]

  targets and Instagram the deal that do offer [TS]

  have a 3G touch of Florence are fairly small cause your text I really like the [TS]

  3G touch I think it's very very cool I'm very anxious and excited to see what [TS]

  third-party Debs deal with it in the future and what was very interesting to [TS]

  me was somebody retweeted something else that I retweeted the show notes [TS]

  apparently it's available via javascript as well so you can do this on the web as [TS]

  well I don't know if that's going to be useful or not but i just think that's [TS]

  kind of cool that it's exposed whether or not anyone ever does anything need [TS]

  with it [TS]

  yeah i i keep I'm I have a similar problem is you I keep forgetting that [TS]

  it's a thing I can do but I'm sure over time that will get used to it and [TS]

  considerably cooler shortcut there is a significant discoverability issue with [TS]

  it [TS]

  where there is really no way to tell something can be forced to just putting [TS]

  all over the place and just seeing what happens and I kind of worried it's gonna [TS]

  be a little bit like a serial we're like we're gonna try too much stuff most of [TS]

  its not going to work and then we're going to forget to try it again for a [TS]

  while [TS]

  you know a guy like that happen for a lot but seriously beginning where you [TS]

  know it would it would fail couple times a night well I guess not go through that [TS]

  again but even syria like I think three touch has the same same effect the [TS]

  Syrian people like well series messed up it doesn't do what I want but I still [TS]

  use it to set timers but I still uses that reminders like everyone found like [TS]

  the one really really easy thing they can do so maybe people are going to like [TS]

  three touch everything not not find any new places to use it but the two places [TS]

  where they do use it they're going to sit there all the time series still can [TS]

  start the stopwatch I know I also can't set reminders for 10 minutes whatever [TS]

  its frequency as it drives me nuts sorry I can't set something that treatment why [TS]

  why can't you do we would you have to be reminded of every 10 min [TS]

  the sauce man just saw several ten-minute series like sorry I can't do [TS]

  that like you don't care about my sauce Terry you just want to stay I'm so glad [TS]

  I asked though that is my use case and so then what I have to do is in 10 [TS]

  minutes we're going to start his office in 10 minutes and it does and I got [TS]

  another reminder [TS]

  the next time and I gotta say I don't understand how this is better than [TS]

  sitting at every 10 minutes to be things that are good I guess maybe they're [TS]

  going to think of it like that it's going off all the time and people stop [TS]

  it or whatever you can think of are maybe therefore its gonna hurt battery [TS]

  life anyway I had someone today who had a problem with their iPhone and want to [TS]

  come over and have a look at it seems like it takes their iPhone my god what [TS]

  it's gonna be me that they think we're just gonna need to hold sheen reimage [TS]

  how to do an iTunes backup locally and then restore from the backup or force [TS]

  application to download to do something like that now actually happened as they [TS]

  had triple tap them but they able to voice over and like all it does is say [TS]

  everything that is violence sex anyway yeah I turn that offer them but I guess [TS]

  the thinking behind the [TS]

  not every 10 minutes but I am certain will call you back to 3d touch yeah I [TS]

  think that's as an impasse shows the lack of discovery ability is going to be [TS]

  a detriment especially in the beginning when at seven implement its you have to [TS]

  experiment like boy I wonder you know the first update comes they say they [TS]

  have three touch support I wonder what the hell they did or does this afternoon [TS]

  to start shoving things but the better the benefit is that if you're not into [TS]

  three types of my brief experience but the successes of friends that I've tried [TS]

  and from talking to people is that if you don't know three times it is this it [TS]

  doesn't bother like it doesn't get your way it is not an essential feature that [TS]

  you have like that the lack of discovery billy's is a teacher and a deterrent to [TS]

  the detriment to people like us who I want to be like power users make sure [TS]

  reusing things in in the most efficient way and so we're going to be having our [TS]

  fingers into the screen to find out where news before everybody else and [TS]

  they don't know three touch exists it does not bother them at all and so it is [TS]

  completely invisible it's a feature that it benefited they know it's there and [TS]

  it's not a detriment if they don't know it's there which is the best kind of [TS]

  thing because I can imagine someone will have a successful like a year and [TS]

  someone showing 3 thoughts on the camera where they'll do it accidentally wants [TS]

  and I that's great although the fault settings I was surprised at how hard I [TS]

  had to press I don't know if anyone would do that the first time I tried to [TS]

  three touch something I long press the icon started going because I wasn't [TS]

  pressing hard and that's the defaults I knew it was so one of the three settings [TS]

  like soft medium hard or whatever [TS]

  also in the success the tactic engine really like it just like it I feel like [TS]

  it's much crisper vibration I found I caught myself constantly mashing on like [TS]

  the teapot icon on my home screen just to get that did it and I just I find it [TS]

  so entertaining I don't know why it's the silliest thing world but what I [TS]

  really enjoyed the tactic engine I think it's well done it's worth little bit of [TS]

  extra weight cuz that's what everyone's been saying right that that that in the [TS]

  3d touch sensors the is the added weight over the six is that right [TS]

  or maybe she'll let the show got thicker and heavier and stuff so it's not it's [TS]

  only a handful of gramm's anyways i think is probably everything but I would [TS]

  imagine the screen is the majority of it because the tap again is mostly errands [TS]

  probably less dense than the battery that every place now than I did when I [TS]

  first got the phone I did immediately notice that it was it felt substantially [TS]

  heavier I think that's unfair I think it was just happier and not that I noticed [TS]

  it versus the six now that I haven't held my six and several days I don't [TS]

  feel like it's any different at all I say I put the success in the Cape the [TS]

  Apple indicates that the six was in and and that seemed to be just fine it seems [TS]

  a little tighter but nothing nothing egregious so thumbs up for three [TS]

  touchdowns off the topic engine I live photos two thumbs as high as I can [TS]

  possibly reach I think it's extremely cool and the thing about why photos i [TS]

  think is going to be really cool is looking at a live photo in a year or in [TS]

  two years or in three years because you know I'm a very loyal user picture life [TS]

  and as with many of these sorts of services including the Photos app on iOS [TS]

  if you three touchdown on home screen you can look at the pictures you've [TS]

  taken [TS]

  year ago or two years ago or six years ago or ten years ago for library goes [TS]

  back that far and I always loved it seen those pictures when I wake up the [TS]

  morning as one of the first things I do is go to the picture life and look at [TS]

  those pictures because I always get great memories from them but there are [TS]

  definitely times that I will look at these pictures and have no friggin idea [TS]

  why I took that picture what it was often granted live photos doesn't [TS]

  guarantee that that would that that problem will be fixed but it certainly [TS]

  helps and seen a picture of Declan just kind of sitting there looking adorable [TS]

  but then giving it a little push and seen the context of that picture it's [TS]

  just genuinely magical and I and I love it and the problem I have a five photos [TS]

  is that I love it so damn much that it almost makes me give pause to picking up [TS]

  my beloved Olympus micro Four Thirds camera because I don't want to give up [TS]

  on that context on these pictures are genuine but low frame rate and low [TS]

  resolution not really you will be in a decade [TS]

  oh absolutely I will but today now and I think it's because I understand that we [TS]

  just well I'm assuming I should say that we just don't have the grant to be able [TS]

  to do all that at once but but yes in a decade I will be annoyed by it but I [TS]

  would probably still just appreciate having a context over having no contact [TS]

  at all [TS]

  yeah I think it may be the ground but probably even more of a factor is the [TS]

  size if they had you know a big cranked up the size of the frame racism is [TS]

  technically possible cranked up the quality of the compression or whatever [TS]

  then you know a lot of pictures of eternal those pictures in 23 seconds [TS]

  videos that really adds up especially on 16 gigabyte and yeah I think that I'm [TS]

  just thinking of like when my kids were born babies and stuff I was recording [TS]

  them on MiniDV tapes camcorder camcorders and standard death [TS]

  and they look like this might like childhood pictures I can sixteen [TS]

  millimeter whatever whatever whatever size film as an you know video film type [TS]

  stuff so yeah can't help that that's going to be you know as well as but the [TS]

  thing about life pictures is it going to be a gorgeous 12 megapixel photo [TS]

  surrounded by really low resolution so 30 frame rate video so yeah better than [TS]

  better than nothing in kind of need to bed I am wondering how you decide is it [TS]

  just a target on off like to live pictures all the time or is it on a [TS]

  per-share basis how do you decide what to make live pictures or do you have a [TS]

  choice so in settings I think there's a general is even available [TS]

  setting if memory serves it's it's just like HDR where it's at the thing you [TS]

  push on during the capture screen and you can turn on you can leave it on for [TS]

  you can turn on a shot by shot but it's it works just like a charges [TS]

  yeah and that's why I was driving at is it there's a little kinda like button on [TS]

  the heads up display in the Photos app that will let you talk with on and off [TS]

  but I could have sworn I had seen that there was a live photos i guess im crazy [TS]

  im looking now I don't see it anymore I thought that I'd seen just a general can [TS]

  you do a lot of photo yes or no [TS]

  in the Settings app I think I'm wrong and in what i was gonna say is what [TS]

  market just said that as you're taking a photo as you're in the camera at the [TS]

  very top there's what looks almost like a target I'm not really sure why this is [TS]

  the life photos icon but it's on the top dead center and that turns live photos [TS]

  on and off so what do you do to you have it all the time and yes notes on all the [TS]

  time I think also by the wedding i saw this on the web [TS]

  I'm trying to myself that even if you take everything in life photo mode you [TS]

  can selectively this right [TS]

  decide that after you taken alive photo you just wanted to display their regular [TS]

  photo in your collection i think thats seems like a simple to do it basically [TS]

  just saying just just showed the picture ignored the lifeboat only part of it [TS]

  even if it was recorded don't think it deletes the live photo a part of it [TS]

  either way I that's that's like auto HDR and other settings that are up there in [TS]

  the wierdest way be interface in the Apple camera I imagine people who [TS]

  probably gonna get there have live pictures on all the time or turned off [TS]

  especially in the beginning of a turn on all the time they feel their stupid 16 [TS]

  gigabyte phones with hundreds of tiny videos then maybe when their [TS]

  consultation with the Apple Genius in their frustration to compensate well one [TS]

  way you can save space is to not do all these live pictures every time or maybe [TS]

  people will find that annoying BC as I can live pictures that I'm speculating [TS]

  about because I'm not using a phone that has them if you have an all the time [TS]

  there are there is the high potential for situations when taking photos of [TS]

  adults where the before and after three seconds of video is not flattering and [TS]

  now that you don't want to but some people are worried about having a [TS]

  picture taking and all you want to capture the instant when they're smiling [TS]

  the instant before and after when they're making a weird face then I kids [TS]

  really cute all the time like maybe they're not happy that you have this one [TS]

  and a half seconds bracketing the reasonable picture right so I wonder if [TS]

  that also going to be like a a social issue if you have live but was on all [TS]

  the time are people gonna be where you are you taking pictures of them that [TS]

  they they don't have to be pleasant this morning for an instant they have to make [TS]

  sure that they're not making a weird face three seconds minutes I don't know [TS]

  I'm a year you make a fair point but I think in the end of the day it's just [TS]

  going to be awesome to be able to as I keep coming back to have that context [TS]

  around the photo and even if it's somebody giggling beforehand or making a [TS]

  funny face in some ways that almost makes a picture better see this [TS]

  the [TS]

  still wife posed picture but the goofy face that led up to it or what have you [TS]

  in a market you haven't said much about what do you think about all this so I [TS]

  just sent me my first received life photos today she and Adam where she went [TS]

  to pick him up from school and they were out playing and in a muddy baseball [TS]

  field near her house and she sent me a lie photo of Adam like stopping at a [TS]

  giant mud puddle and it was pretty cool to watch I like I really I kind of got [TS]

  it then I was like oh this is kinda nice it wasn't a video really mean it was it [TS]

  was a very very short video clip with a photo that previewed it basically so an [TS]

  actual video would have done a way better job of showing the moment if that [TS]

  if it was intended to be in motion [TS]

  you know but it's it's a lot like the debate between liking you were saying [TS]

  between using the iPhone camera vs using your fancy mirrorless and you know when [TS]

  when you have when you have your phone camera vs some other type of camera one [TS]

  thing that is relevant that is important is like you know what are you gonna [TS]

  actually use the people the camera that you have with you is the most boring [TS]

  camera like what you actually use if you're actually going to take a picture [TS]

  and think about it and get your meritless camera great it'll be WAY [TS]

  higher quality than what you get with your iPhone but if you you know the fact [TS]

  is you're not gonna have all the time and so you're better off not missing a [TS]

  moment and just capturing it with something rather than waiting until you [TS]

  have the better camera out to capture it and so with life of the day is going to [TS]

  be a similar kind of thing we're like yes you are better off switching over to [TS]

  video mode and capturing a fork a video if what you want is to capture this [TS]

  moment in time in AM moving format like video is an actual intentionally shot [TS]

  video is going to be better at that for most cases but with life photos on you [TS]

  can kind of you can get like half of the benefit of a video with every picture [TS]

  without really having to think about having to choose that mode so that I i [TS]

  think you're gonna get a lot more like there are so many moments where you want [TS]

  to get picture and then like you know actually I wish that wasn't I wish I had [TS]

  video of that also like that happens a lot and so this does solve that and it [TS]

  isn't I don't think it's the best implementation of the number of details [TS]

  that I would that I would nitpick about the quality is is a big one [TS]

  the fact is it's good enough when you look at it on a phone and that is how [TS]

  most people are looking at most pictures these days which is unfortunate because [TS]

  as technology gets better as fun to get bigger screens get better [TS]

  these men aged very well as compared to what they could be if they were higher [TS]

  resolution or end especially higher frame rate would be nice but you know I [TS]

  assume you'll solve it over time I really hope that the that the the low [TS]

  resolution and low framerate were decided for a technical reasons like [TS]

  this is what the sensor can do rather than we don't want to take up more space [TS]

  under 16 gig phones that we keep selling I really hope that was the reason so I [TS]

  don't I don't feel is bothered by the low framerate nor the low resolution I i [TS]

  agree with both of you in a perfect world it would probably be better to [TS]

  have both but I just really doesn't bother me and in fact I would almost go [TS]

  so far as to say that part of the charm of it is that it's really a picture that [TS]

  has little motion around eight and I think you hit the nail on the head Marco [TS]

  that if you're trying to catch motion alive photos not the right way to do it [TS]

  ally photo like I was saying before is to capture a single photograph that [TS]

  gives you a little bit of context around it and if you really want to capture [TS]

  video again I couldn't agree more that that the right way to do it is to [TS]

  capture video but I think the the low framerate [TS]

  even to a lesser degree the low resolution is kind of adorable and in [TS]

  some way because it's it's kind of it's kind of jane kyun in a kind of fun way I [TS]

  don't know that probably sounds really contradictory but I I kinda like it like [TS]

  Instagram filters you want to look like old seventies that photo right except [TS]

  that you don't have the higher as urgent safety camera point and and also it's [TS]

  it's not it's not hearkening back to [TS]

  in the past that actually exist unless you're considering like remember what [TS]

  you look like a 1992 video is low framerate anyway it's almost violently [TS]

  when you watch it it's almost like of minutes it's a lot shorter and thats [TS]

  noticeable but the benefit of a new you can handle a couple times like it is [TS]

  kind of idea and that kinda like that about 90 s feature I was quite taken to [TS]

  a baby and I was 12 my finger on the screen animated gif was playing and you [TS]

  can scroll back and forth in the gift is that and I was double feature for [TS]

  displaying gifts in Safari or is that a nap feature I didn't think so you can go [TS]

  it is just pausing it you can actually go back and forth movement some back and [TS]

  forth to go for it back but you know there's any way to do it and that is [TS]

  another that kind of its not really an aesthetic that's an accident or GIF [TS]

  animations that that someone should do a PhD thesis that they haven't already [TS]

  about a GIF animations how how we got to this point because like the history of [TS]

  gifted dawning resolutions that dormant phase and then having it come roaring [TS]

  back because everything for your browser to play it like you know what I'm done [TS]

  with dealing and video or flash was gonna do everything is gift but it's [TS]

  stupid cause doesn't matter I'll use a different tune music's every frame of [TS]

  animation but they're huge doesn't matter they play everywhere and that's [TS]

  all that matters is that plays everywhere and it's just incredibly [TS]

  backwards stupid archaic form at the nevertheless swept across the Internet [TS]

  like like a fire in the plane's dry grass and now we're kind of stuck with [TS]

  it anyway just think in an alternate universe where Apple was more jokey [TS]

  company they were being made against surrounding your 12 megapixel photo so [TS]

  thank goodness for small favors right at least so low framerate adjust video [TS]

  instead that's the most important question that you know the answer to is [TS]

  the default you get an iPhone 6 out of the box is live photos on by default off [TS]

  to leave off [TS]

  it's kind of a bummer because I feel like this is this is a test easy to turn [TS]

  on but I don't even know how to use the I think it's not particularly into a [TS]

  dead the whole weird swiping interface to you know going from voted videos to [TS]

  photos and turning auto HDR on and off I've seen a lot of people to confuse [TS]

  what I know how are accidentally switch modes you times and that you know take [TS]

  that extra second search back and find it frustrating and everything like that [TS]

  you I but it's kind of a shame that was at fault [TS]

  neither is forecast video but that's good that shouldn't be on by default [TS]

  that's like you really want to but this is like a they're gonna have TV ads for [TS]

  this that I'm never gonna see maybe they need to have yet showing hey like photos [TS]

  this is cool like people you know people with babies and teenagers will love this [TS]

  adults in one of the pictures taken my night love it so much and you're gonna [TS]

  sit there with your dead photos and enjoy the phone [TS]

  exactly yeah that's that would have been the the political way to do it is like [TS]

  everything else is a dead dead photo feature feature real-time follow up the [TS]

  gift thing you were talking about as jelly is set in the chat and as I [TS]

  confirmed by using his wonderful after gift-wrapped that is not a system thing [TS]

  that must've been a terrific thing moving on [TS]

  touch I D super fast and the new phones I wouldn't go so far as to say instant I [TS]

  feel like most people that I've heard talk about it have said it's just so [TS]

  fast it's instant wouldn't say that I mean it is really really freaking fast [TS]

  noticeably faster faster and so fast that I am extremely pleased by it every [TS]

  time I use it but I wouldn't say instant one thing I did want to say though very [TS]

  quickly about that is I found an odd behavior and I'd be curious if those who [TS]

  are listening have heard this is well feel free to tweet at me don't worry [TS]

  about Gianmarco I had the I had my phone plugged in my new success plugged into [TS]

  the wall [TS]

  the I believe was an iPad charger an extension and then both Apple and not [TS]

  Apple USB to lightning chords [TS]

  and whatever reason I couldn't touch aidid work I couldn't get it or can get [TS]

  to work tried a real learning several different fingers can get it or can get [TS]

  in fact it wouldn't even relearn the damn fingers I was gonna get really [TS]

  bummed out because I thought man I've got a lemon and then for whatever reason [TS]

  I unplugged my phone I don't know what possessed me to do this and everything [TS]

  started working instance I didn't think much of it is that was the only time I [TS]

  had it happen and then earlier tonight Aaron had the exact same problem on her [TS]

  phone which is also a success and I don't know if it's this particular [TS]

  charger I don't know if it's gross power coming into our house I wouldn't think [TS]

  so but who knows but one way or another this is two times now that we've had [TS]

  this issue where tidy just would not recognize our fingers until we unplugged [TS]

  the phone so I know what that could be but if you did have that experience i'd [TS]

  i'd love to hear about it so I tweet me at Casey Lewis thats Apple's new court [TS]

  protection plan subtly discouraging you like them because this is white accord [TS]

  to get destroyed [TS]

  that's one possible theory as I continue my streak of never having broking and a [TS]

  30 pin or lightning cable and anyway I broken some 30 pins don't know they're [TS]

  broken lightning now I'm getting worried about our our cap charging cable at the [TS]

  end of story [TS]

  bunch up at the where it where it meets the stress buddhist wrinkled pictures of [TS]

  that phenomenon to use it ever use it plugged in when you there I'd I usually [TS]

  don't but TIFF and more importantly Adam all the time do my son has bent the like [TS]

  the iPad 2 that he uses and [TS]

  picture that I put the headphones into an iPhone to put an Apple earbuds [TS]

  headphones mini-phone two and then slamming on the ground headphone and so [TS]

  the headphones bent now like it still works but if you hit it head on and it [TS]

  is bent just the part where where you know goes into the device does not not a [TS]

  good look at this is the kind of stress and the the smart cover slowly D [TS]

  laminating too so you can subscribe to that anything else on tidy market you [TS]

  you were pretty fierce of about it and I'm not that I'm not but would you say I [TS]

  am being ridiculous or would you say that that it's damn near instant but not [TS]

  quite instant I i agree with you it I wouldn't say in it also depends a lot on [TS]

  on how how precisely recognized it like it it seems like if it has a really [TS]

  solid match I think recommends it faster than it has to think about it first I [TS]

  can you know yeah yeah so i i think the the claim that Apple makes which is that [TS]

  it's about twice as fast accurate yeah I would agree with that it is again I [TS]

  don't want to sound like I'm pooh-poohing it is definitely way way [TS]

  WAY faster it's just I had read or heard some of the early rumblings about it as [TS]

  being like instant in and it is instant it is not but gosh it is closed it in I [TS]

  and I love it I really do [TS]

  related to that is this happening here they're down jackets think about how [TS]

  serious always listening this we knew this from the keynote and I think people [TS]

  looking at Apple tech stocks whatever anyway the m9 chip is related to Syrian [TS]

  people are asking why I'm 9 chip the tracks when you're stepping you remember [TS]

  how they relate to Syria oldest gets down to having features on your phone [TS]

  constantly doing something constantly sensing the outside world whether it's [TS]

  sending whether you're shaking the phone up and down are sensing whether you're [TS]

  saying he never without killing your battery so that means you can't have the [TS]

  main CPU and a big beefy CPU GPU RAM everything big combination [TS]

  running all the time are waking up every two seconds to do you say that kills [TS]

  your battery so people seriously be able to turn this feature off in your phone [TS]

  or give you can you give your phone a different name yet there's nothing you [TS]

  can do I don't think the success actually does like a voice training [TS]

  thing where it went went during the interim setup after its been asked to [TS]

  enable Siri it forces you to actually trained it and it can achieve you to say [TS]

  hey speak in your own voice and it it like forces you through this process so [TS]

  now it it seems to be matched to your voice in practice I don't know how [TS]

  tightly it is meant to your voice as he could rename it anyway that that problem [TS]

  of having a battery-powered device always sort of listening always sensing [TS]

  but not killing your CPU is why the little step counter things their thing [TS]

  that Apple doesn't make dedicated hardware with its own little dedicated [TS]

  to local buffer looks inside and I'm imagining this December low-power chip [TS]

  that has this one job that just bull crap up and you know if it if it senses [TS]

  something that it thinks it's significant it will then wake up the big [TS]

  CPU and say hey by the way the thing to say and by the way hear the audio [TS]

  recording started when they say days you take it from here I'm just entirely [TS]

  speculating about how this actually works with the bottom line is custom [TS]

  hardware that it takes way less power than the actual CPU to be sort of the [TS]

  guard guard post like listening listening for anyone to say syria or [TS]

  that you know counting the steps of the easier because I can just sit there and [TS]

  and ticket counter and then when the actual CD wakes up by the way while you [TS]

  were to sleep in over there this many more steps to play so here's the step [TS]

  dad or whatever so that is that's that's smart use of hardware features like that [TS]

  are coming over time [TS]

  touch idea is kind of like that I don't know to what extent it's already [TS]

  completely independent where the touch a decent there and it'll secure enclave [TS]

  and everything can work entirely independently of the CPU just pass on [TS]

  the information that must be true to some degree just the security [TS]

  implications but the way you get these things to be more responsive is not like [TS]

  oh the we need the a10 CPU and now its boots [TS]

  you know custom hardware to say the main part of this team is not involved in [TS]

  this process at all this is like a sense organ that you know relays and buffers [TS]

  information and the faster you can make little sense organs while keeping them [TS]

  low power the better this is going to get so Marcus Piggott about twice the [TS]

  speed just like Apple said that they can do that twice the speed for no two or [TS]

  three years they really will be instant pretty quickly cuz I don't think there's [TS]

  any particular limit like this sensing like once you're touching you touching [TS]

  it's not as if you need to like it needs to like do this incredibly big [TS]

  computation just dump the raw sensor data out once you're touching it and [TS]

  then it's like the processing and the matching or whatever but yeah that if [TS]

  they can double it in one year I'm optimistic that this will all eventually [TS]

  actually be instant [TS]

  anything else on the hardware of one other quick thought about the success [TS]

  but anything else on hardware how's the battery been for you for me it's been [TS]

  about the same I'd say it's about the same maybe marginally worse but I also [TS]

  wonder if it's all in my head because I've been looking out for exactly that [TS]

  exactly yeah it's hard to tell if it's about the same that means it's worse [TS]

  because this is a fresh battery versus your one-year-old sex right so it should [TS]

  be better than a one-year-old 60 yeah I mean I it is not dramatically different [TS]

  but but i wouldnt I would definitely not say it's better and I'm skeptical that [TS]

  when I say it's worse it really honestly is it may just be me thinking it is also [TS]

  playing with their phones or maybe I can just got this excessive force touching [TS]

  being the live photos and all that other stuff so it'll probably sell down but [TS]

  anyway it being awash seems reasonable [TS]

  my final thought about the success and I thought about this a few days ago it was [TS]

  interesting to me that anecdotally based on 0 fax whatsoever I saw a lot less [TS]

  kvetching about my phone was available on my phone wasn't available out really [TS]

  wanted this in such and such color and such and such capacity and it was [TS]

  available and I did see some of that for the rose gold pretty quickly [TS]

  but you know last year my recollection away was that by 3:15 in the morning and [TS]

  the one true time zone which is eastern time a lot of people already started say [TS]

  oh my God my thing is sold out oh my gosh and I didn't see much of that this [TS]

  year and in fact somebody a camera who was said to me they pre-ordered like two [TS]

  or three days before the first the the the launch day and they were still able [TS]

  to reserve one for launch day and I just found that surprising since I was [TS]

  theorizing is right before the numbers came out there will maybe didn't sell as [TS]

  many you know maybe it's just that it's easier because a lot of these components [TS]

  are similar and then I got to thinking about all that many of these components [TS]

  of that similar and as it turns out the numbers were through the roof and I [TS]

  didn't realize at the time I talked about this but apparently the best years [TS]

  are always better so I don't know what to make of this maybe it's just that Tim [TS]

  Cook stops are really getting that much better or just help getting more mature [TS]

  if if you will but I was impressed by how few inventory problems we heard [TS]

  about with the exception perhaps of the rose gold one aspect that we have here [TS]

  insurance is that the a nine is being made by two different manufacturers I'm [TS]

  not sure if that was the case with the eighth but this is the first time [TS]

  they've ever done that yet so its Taiwan Semiconductor and Samsung are both [TS]

  making the anion and the most interesting thing i think is that [TS]

  they're both making something different a nine different transistor layouts [TS]

  maybe they're actually different sizes different features I put a link to the [TS]

  park story that they actually over these things up and sliced up in the gypsum to [TS]

  look at the actual ownership is inside the package and lo and behold two [TS]

  different things that helped them endure you know like what what is the thing [TS]

  that is most supply constraint on these phones usually think that's hardest to [TS]

  make and it's usually there something having to do with the camera sensor that [TS]

  something having to do with the CPU GPU system-on-a-chip and this year looks [TS]

  like they were able to make a lot of them although i I told my wife this hey [TS]

  people are getting sold out and you could have just didn't wake up at three [TS]

  and you couldn't talk in the morning or whatever and just like great I'll be [TS]

  able to get my thing right away [TS]

  and I went to the Apple website or whatever and it's like three to five [TS]

  weeks if you want it so maybe that was just a fluke about time he does by the [TS]

  way plenty of inventory but it's not it seems like it's not a bottomless pit it [TS]

  seems like they did demanded actually exhausted eventually I haven't looked in [TS]

  recent days I'm hoping by the time her contract is up and she goes for the [TS]

  phone you can just walk into an Apple store and there won't be a line of [TS]

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  a moment ago el capitan [TS]

  the name el capitan came out today we were discussing before the show that I [TS]

  installed it on the machine that I'm presently recording on starting at about [TS]

  7:15 this evening we started recording at nine this evening because basically [TS]

  I'm an idiot but it worked out okay so I'm a genius in any case initial [TS]

  impressions already really like the split view whatever they're calling it [TS]

  for having to up side-by-side in full screen I think I like San Francisco I [TS]

  feel like every platform I C San Francisco on my first reaction is and [TS]

  then over time I end up really liking it [TS]

  my site does indeed support in tabs it's really exciting excited about because I [TS]

  had no idea that was hiking or not I didn't run any the beta systems all [TS]

  brand new to me but [TS]

  so far so good I really like it and I did not lose my mouse yet but friends in [TS]

  the chat asked in the mouse jiggle is very creepy in kind of late fall at once [TS]

  thats my initial impressions any other initial impressions from you guys [TS]

  well should we do is there gonna be an official John Siracusa review of el cap [TS]

  on our show or will you kill me for even saying that I haven't installed the gym [TS]

  yet can't look at you really kick back I know you've graduated and suddenly it's [TS]

  like whatever man did know it's like being smaller it's like my new change in [TS]

  philosophy of trying to be relatively small they're free for the new Star Wars [TS]

  movies whereas with someone I want to know almost everything about it and I'll [TS]

  try an opposite approach over the last ten it's like you know I installed the [TS]

  betas I feel like you know what I just gonna do this like a regular person I [TS]

  see the keynote I installed the bad as I played around with it but I don't know [TS]

  everything about the US I haven't been obsessively using it and searching [TS]

  around for it and i also think so hungry people who feel that having gonna run [TS]

  during their use it but I have a lot of save the way I can read reviews and I'm [TS]

  gonna learn stuff and that's a novel exciting you know to find out new things [TS]

  about the OS so I'm looking forward to installing it could have used the betas [TS]

  and you know my bad as a separate hard drive and a fresh install are on a [TS]

  computer that I use it always feels a service like WoW with nothing installed [TS]

  everything is that but I'm looking forward to performance improvements and [TS]

  new feature you know the new fountain all the other stuff I am somewhat [TS]

  dreading dealing with the system integrity protection stuff I'm hoping [TS]

  most people of other stuff worked out on my case I did not russians thought I did [TS]

  start downloading today I read about half downloaded a paused but I haven't [TS]

  updated Skype Skype someone you don't date for months and market talked about [TS]

  with not change the audio setup a mic [TS]

  why am i updating Skype again is there something wrong with Skype now is it not [TS]

  working now that I need to do is update know this kind of always something wrong [TS]

  with that but like everything is working fine so I have been saying no no no but [TS]

  I'm going to say yes now because they read why would I might update because I [TS]

  would imagine that it is going to be a cap compatibility differences like [TS]

  anything solloway to Skype before I upgrade the OS that the whole ritual [TS]

  making something back up and then making everything and share everything on my [TS]

  apps up-to-date for the version that is compatible and then doing the OS update [TS]

  its not that I dreaded I'm gonna upgrade you know by this weekend I'll have all [TS]

  the computers in the house upgraded probably I'm usually pretty good about [TS]

  these things I did the same thing for Mavericks everything's fine and Yosemite [TS]

  everything was fine [TS]

  your mileage may vary but I don't have anything particularly deep insightful to [TS]

  say about it because I had as having used enough to do those things but as [TS]

  they come up I'm sure I will mentioned on the show but don't be expecting like [TS]

  it's gonna be like one episode where I just like recite thirty thousand words [TS]

  with review that's not going to happen did you miss writing it at all [TS]

  didn't misreading it just a little bit having written it yet we did it was kind [TS]

  of weird going to our state again saying in an interview and saying that it [TS]

  wasn't mine it's like it happened but you know I didn't even do anything and [TS]

  this review appeared not thank god that's grade like magic you know I just [TS]

  go to sleep you wake up in the review and are saying that get there but yeah [TS]

  people wrote it and that's how it got there is a kind of like like if you go [TS]

  back and visit Arnold job and you see that like just you know there's a [TS]

  somebody's doing your job and everything went on without you [TS]

  yeah that's fine I don't think I haven't read it yet I looked at it I saw this [TS]

  and could take apart says one person could read about this and i retweeted [TS]

  the said [TS]

  really enjoying their technical review including the traditional middle part [TS]

  that they only vaguely understand I'm glad for that though the part that I [TS]

  enjoy I didn't enjoy the fact that the terminal examples but it showed turmoil [TS]

  text headlight text on a dark background this is what happens when when you when [TS]

  you start doing it someone else do it and they get to make the choices and [TS]

  that's just the price to pay someone else's making choices about the athletic [TS]

  tiny details of their view they probably didn't even put in any references to all [TS]

  my traditional sources but that's what happens when someone else right that so [TS]

  anyway I'm looking forward to reading it I'm looking forward to learning things [TS]

  are looking for their views that I have in there and looking forward to [TS]

  installing it and trying it out myself and I'm sure I will have to say about it [TS]

  I hope so I really do like it is you know other people read these reviews now [TS]

  and other people will step in and they they I'm sure they're good in in their [TS]

  ways but I do miss having come from you I do miss your review what we got was a [TS]

  review but we didn't get your review I would agree with that wholeheartedly I [TS]

  read maybe two-thirds the arse reviews so far and it is very good without [TS]

  question and I think it is it is definitely done in the spirit of a [TS]

  circle serve you but the tone is just different and that's to be expected of [TS]

  course but the tone is just different and it doesn't feel the way it used to [TS]

  just like you were saying Marco and I and i miss that it's not a that's not an [TS]

  attack on the people who wrote it by any means they did a fine job and god knows [TS]

  I would never have wanted to be the person to follow John Siracusa but I I [TS]

  miss the charity's two tone in that just kind of flair that they would put in [TS]

  that I didn't see in this one [TS]

  overview deck thing I think the thing people make the most money with like [TS]

  movie reviews where over time if you you know read a particular movie reviewer [TS]

  for years and years and decades [TS]

  when do you agree to review or not you start to get a feel for the reviewer as [TS]

  a person so you can say what I know Roger Ebert combined with what he said [TS]

  about this movie lets me know if I like it and so having sort of insight into [TS]

  the person becomes like a comfort level whereas if a new person writes you like [TS]

  it will have the review but I don't know that much about the person so how do I [TS]

  figure out what I'll think of it I know what this person thinks of it but I [TS]

  don't know enough about this person to know if what they think of it is how it [TS]

  relates to all I think of it so that's why I understand that like just don't [TS]

  have the same comfort level with the reviewer because you don't know you [TS]

  don't have a model of the inside of their brain yet because you haven't been [TS]

  reading them for years or decades or whatever but that will change and [TS]

  there's plenty of people who never read anything by me anyway and so I was just [TS]

  another random person trying trying to do all the little jokes and references [TS]

  and trying to keep it entertaining it's challenging when you're adding that an [TS]

  operating system can tell you like it or not doesn't lend itself well to anything [TS]

  except a really bad puns but I tried to avoid my daily like we all know that I'm [TS]

  talking about like they people like to make an eye on any particular [TS]

  applications I think this is perfectly fine you want to do it you can do it is [TS]

  an epidemic in the tech industry very sort of simple obvious pun the people [TS]

  just absolutely cannot resist I resisted them as much as I could I still did them [TS]

  especially early on I was doing them all the time but as time wore on I'm trying [TS]

  to do we use to be trying to keep it light hearted and keep people engaged in [TS]

  what is usually a pretty dry topic and and eventually not even all that [TS]

  exciting on people are much more excited about iowa's than 10 so it's it's you [TS]

  know it's not an easy task but you know someone else can do it and someone else [TS]

  is doing it like that [TS]

  skimming through it and look like something that I want to read those look [TS]

  like it covered a lot of features I love a good did get down and dirty into a few [TS]

  specific area that's what I always didn't have everything is super deputies [TS]

  like this one features actually an interesting feature and let me die [TS]

  really deep in this one thing [TS]

  you know the white wine time given that one thing you didn't even talk about [TS]

  other feature that will be complaining got I totally understand that and that's [TS]

  what they are you looks like I'm looking forward to reading it it it's pretty [TS]

  good so far like I said see you said that you run the bases John but you did [TS]

  not run them full time you ran them on a second partition or whatever [TS]

  yeah I will you market to cheer on the videos and they're running on my laptop [TS]

  for a few weeks every like and it's fine it's you know I don't even type full [TS]

  time so it's it's hard for me to really say oh it's amazing or oh it's terrible [TS]

  in these ways it has been perfectly fine for me on my laptop I ran into no issues [TS]

  with it as far as I can remember me know certainly none none that felt like it [TS]

  was because it was a beta before and it's been fine I I like San Francisco a [TS]

  lot I've been using iOS 9 all summer so I was more used to it but I like as a [TS]

  fun to like it a lot and I think it's good night [TS]

  yeah I I have no complaints so far but we'll see when I installed a little [TS]

  worried that I i kno during the beta there were some issues with audio [TS]

  especially USB audio and earlier I was asking the tipster and channel that's [TS]

  been fixed and he said basically no so I'm a little worried about messing with [TS]

  me audio setup that works by installing el cap on my computer but you know I got [TS]

  to install it pretty soon just keep up with like the dev tools and everything [TS]

  you know I'm gonna wanna install it fairly soon so I'm probably gonna [TS]

  install it may be a 2.1 or or maybe maybe even sooner than that I don't know [TS]

  yet but it seems like for many been hearing from people in reading today it [TS]

  doesn't seem like there any massive problems with it it doesn't matter who [TS]

  you are seeing now I've been seen well that's not true of Maryland said that [TS]

  one password was having issues on his box but it seems to be working on my own [TS]

  I said and talk about their views in the past and I was like a couple threads [TS]

  online document is likely to be used [TS]

  you know i bothering them they didn't tell us about all the problems that are [TS]

  in Yosemite and stuff like that like day 1 reviews and never gonna tell you that [TS]

  they just never going to you find them out when millions of people start using [TS]

  it no matter how many like 10 reviewer that I'm aware has like a giant lab with [TS]

  every model of mac and every combination of software and hardware so they can't [TS]

  do comprehensive testing even Apple probably can test every combination [TS]

  right as it was no way day 1 review is going to tell you that he reading a day [TS]

  1 review to find out what is the long term compatibility and stability in this [TS]

  gonna be like over the next year there's no way to know that is not even win over [TS]

  the GMO working everyone said the only way you find that out and a public beta [TS]

  is helping out a mass massive number of people using it and so that's just a job [TS]

  interview that comes out on the same day as the US cannot do . and so I long ago [TS]

  gave up basically doing that if something egregious or if like if I said [TS]

  this you know like a leopard I remember being really flaky like was always flaky [TS]

  and even the GMs late units clearly flaky like if you get a negative result [TS]

  of a deposit or any of you get a result that says there are problems you can [TS]

  communicate that like I've never gotten historic successfully even in the GIM on [TS]

  any of the computers I've tried this probably a problem but if everything [TS]

  works fine for you but doesn't mean everything's gonna work fine for reals [TS]

  all means that the problems haven't yet been discovered so if you're wary about [TS]

  weight I saw it I was like wait for the point one if you're nervous but if you [TS]

  wave in the pipeline yosemite that wouldn't have said all the discovery [TS]

  issue either took a long time for them to fix that you never know what's gonna [TS]

  happen so if you're nervous at all with six months read the web you'll find out [TS]

  if their problems if you don't wait six months then upgrade with the rest of us [TS]

  and just cross your fingers are you ok thanks let two or three sponsors this [TS]

  week [TS]

  cards against humanity carries and back please and we'll see you next week [TS]

  now this show they didn't even need to begin [TS]

  accidental [TS]

  Casey [TS]

  it was accidental [TS]

  we need to talk about what is that thing we need to talk about this because it's [TS]

  so I know nothing about this because I've never owned a TiVo don't give two [TS]

  craps about 10 where's there a decent like to second overview just go to the [TS]

  link and the shots did not sit flat yes that is the first thing you need to know [TS]

  about the first thing you need nobody knew about this the new box and TiVo [TS]

  TiVo DVRs right I like them and I don't understand them and I'm somewhat [TS]

  obsessed with them anyway the TiVo ball [TS]

  the second thing you need to know about it is that rather than being a sort of [TS]

  rectangular solid with rounded corners what is this it is bent bent iPhone ever [TS]

  so slightly bent so that it does not lay flat and so that the top of it is not [TS]

  flat it's like it's been upwards and so there's a little space underneath its [TS]

  not even symmetrically bent it's not been in the middle of spent like two [TS]

  thirds of the way down it's a stylistic choice looks like an interesting type of [TS]

  sculpture whatever it is a terrible decision do not bend things that are [TS]

  going to go in someone's AV stack under their TV the only place that can [TS]

  possibly go is on top but realistically speaking you know people are going to [TS]

  stacks up on this and it's going to look awful people are going to stack and you [TS]

  can't stop them they're going to do it and they're gonna win stuff underneath [TS]

  in about pencils and books it is going to have everything because their [TS]

  entertainment centers this is a terrible choice and by the way to white second [TS]

  terrible choice I know you want to stand out and everything black is better for [TS]

  things to go underneath your TV in your cabinet black is the standard if you're [TS]

  gonna have a white one like a console get a choice for black bent like that is [TS]

  it just i just would love to have been in those meetings with someone like but [TS]

  don't understand distinctive and people remembered no just no just make it flat [TS]

  you have to be able to stack [TS]

  ups and do the same thing the George Foreman grill thing adamant give game [TS]

  consoles a little more leeway because something's got to be in the top Arabia [TS]

  stack and if it's gonna be a game console maybe [TS]

  top-loading CD Drive back in the old days whatever you had to do it that way [TS]

  I don't really give a Sony a passive there but only one thing to be on top [TS]

  the ps4 they learned it's flat you could stackable this is the first this is the [TS]

  worst box that TiVo has ever made it possible that anyone has ever made his [TS]

  I'm not aware of anyone who's ever so egregiously thumb their nose at the idea [TS]

  of stackable Evo components like this is just like a little bit off whenever [TS]

  they're intentionally going guess what [TS]

  anyway it's why their motives way to totally right that's enough complaining [TS]

  about the box there other things talk about this some interesting things [TS]

  related at all the features that outing first one that I want talk about is [TS]

  smart speed but the market would suit him well it's not good it isn't smart [TS]

  speed because there it's just a speedup well they can't do this video and i cant [TS]

  just kept silent sorry we have to watch the video bar with their silence but its [TS]

  think it'd just be that the video with bob with without pitching things that [TS]

  people don't sound like chipmunks it's a way to watch things in less time they [TS]

  say 30% faster but that's a 1.3 expedite so it's you know that's interesting that [TS]

  useful not particularly novel maybe in the set-top box base but now I mean it's [TS]

  the type of thing where you think why didn't they have this years ago goes [TS]

  right one and I'm pretty sure the ps3 can do that [TS]

  obviously computer player like you know QuickTime can do it option somewhere do [TS]

  it but in a set-top box industry think it's pretty pretty unusual yeah I did [TS]

  mention biggest smart speed like it's it's ninety-three TV so save time I [TS]

  chairs stuff a nice time if that's what you'd like I would never do that anyway [TS]

  they're good thing is commercial skipping it going said 32nd skip and [TS]

  fast Lawrence cannon stuff like that now they're gonna have a button that lets [TS]

  you skip commercials how does it do that has no other begin to the done some [TS]

  amazing machine learning know that about humans taking the most popular shows and [TS]

  marking where the commercials are so you can't do this giving feature until the [TS]

  show has aired and TiVo's legion of actual humans has put in the metadata [TS]

  for start here stop their starters are down of course it will only work on the [TS]

  shows they do that for and they're going to do it for the most popular shows can [TS]

  imagine the the relevant to the stakeholders as they say in the business [TS]

  world of advertising on television maybe a little bit miffed by this could lead [TS]

  to legal battles and grumbling who knows what else but in the meantime you can [TS]

  buy this and in theory if you don't watch the show live and if you allow you [TS]

  know you're watching the next day or maybe an hour later and with the leg is [TS]

  going to be you'll be able to skip commercials with one button press at [TS]

  that point even make them press the button yeah why I mean I i think they're [TS]

  held here is that so few people are buying TV anymore that no one's going to [TS]

  even care if it's possible they won't be surprised but they care about anyway I [TS]

  buy TV so I care so I would like to try that feature you know [TS]

  a thirty second step wizard but I'm really good at it that's why I hate when [TS]

  that are responsive because it was off my game but it got that feature and [TS]

  other than the big things Italian for a video which is mostly irrelevant because [TS]

  the only thing is very broad like you know that will get four came from [TS]

  Netflix new record for Kate it's good they're cranking it up you know they're [TS]

  going to go for eventually so it's good to get some practice oh and how long do [TS]

  you think it is before their UI is forecast now supposedly the most almost [TS]

  all not all because I will be impossible almost all the UI is now an H D Steve [TS]

  Overbey Leno has historically had a standard definition no setup menus and [TS]

  everything and even long after the TiVo device started recording each DVD oh the [TS]

  menus were still standard death and slowly slowly more and more than use [TS]

  became high-def this year has high definition come entirely TiVo almost [TS]

  it's like they're asymptotically approaching it to user interface and now [TS]

  only a few screens are standard and most of them are just kind of embarrassing [TS]

  and stupid but that's life for ok support different matters is that it [TS]

  means that they're putting in beef your hardware and supposedly this one has [TS]

  more memory faster CPU faster video decoding can handle for K like these are [TS]

  all good things I want this to happen [TS]

  thumbs up please TiVo few made if you made a $1,500 box I would get like I am [TS]

  ready to give you money why because I love TiVo and I just wish it was WAY [TS]

  faster I don't understand I don't watch maybe as much TV as you do and I have [TS]

  maybe five or six years that we watch religiously but to me are really a [TS]

  Verizon DVR box is plenty fine it's terrible I'll be the first to you but we [TS]

  are using it to you navigate between shows for maybe 15 seconds any given day [TS]

  like I don't need the most robust whiz bang awesome experience and by the way [TS]

  our menus are entirely and exclusively NHD so I'm not saying you're wrong but I [TS]

  don't understand what could make a DVR so magical that it that it warrants all [TS]

  this money including a service charge monthly service fee or whatever [TS]

  by them outright you can you can pay all bunched up front and as the monthly [TS]

  monthly feel like I'm already pay a lot for these things and I'm be willing to [TS]

  be willing to pay even more than what I'm paying for is the responsiveness the [TS]

  features you know like mighty both applications like Netflix influence of [TS]

  it the Netflix app how long does netflix quote-unquote apathetic to launch our [TS]

  responsibility when I'm waiting for the Netflix thing and people have been doing [TS]

  by the way is my Apple to use and flaking out to now actually using the [TS]

  Netflix thing on my Tivo I don't like waiting for things to launch the iOS app [TS]

  launches faster by the slow on the TiVo cause the TiVos recording six shows at [TS]

  once and doing things and doesn't have enough memory and CPU k whatever the [TS]

  problem is I don't wanna wait I want everything to be instant demand it and [TS]

  I'm going to pay for it and so maybe I'm that TiVo's big customer but when we are [TS]

  navigating 242 to figure out what show we want to watch that's pretty damn [TS]

  incident when it starts playing back it's pretty damn in how long is the TiVo [TS]

  client lunch or not they did you take lunch I would not have netflix on my DVR [TS]

  that's why I have a fire TV stick or my AppleTV [TS]

  actually have much Netflix's house of cards so it's been awhile I would then [TS]

  how long does it take for the thing to come up and like to navigate to the [TS]

  things you never seriously good about picking up like a play the next house of [TS]

  cards episode but I don't know I don't like waiting I tell you when I was a kid [TS]

  television it was all analog and that's what I want I mean your point is fair [TS]

  and I'm sure I'm confident that whatever waiting you deal is less than the [TS]

  waiting I do but I just I guess our priorities are just so different and [TS]

  that's fine and that's what makes the world go round but I never in my life [TS]

  have I looked at my very crappy cable issue arrive Verizon FiOS issue DVR and [TS]

  said you know what my life would be better if this thing was replaced his [TS]

  thing it's like one of those things where like it's fine but if we if I gave [TS]

  you a high-end TiVo you won't be able to go back to get ya especially the game [TS]

  for free and there was no monetary think it's just much more pleasant like it and [TS]

  its type of thing before you have your fine and after you get it like that big [TS]

  of a deal but would you like to know [TS]

  this new one is better they're funny things that annoy about you the other [TS]

  thing I'm paying for with my big fancy TiVo is it think the TiVo boat doesn't [TS]

  provide the TiVo both only comes as far as I'm aware according to TiVo site [TS]

  right now maybe the expanded out in a sort of a Wimpy our model it's not their [TS]

  high-end models that Evo balkan come with a 500 gig or terabyte hard drive [TS]

  and for tuners the high-end TV over a meal which is there you know they're [TS]

  pretty high-end products and product names of the three terabyte hard drive [TS]

  and 62 and mine is like 70% full so I could go you know the basics terabyte [TS]

  drives now that both uses 2.5 inch drive I think which is why they've scaled [TS]

  things down again what would you pay the extra money for I would pay for 6 [TS]

  terabyte drive over 23 terabyte drives shared thrown in there like the hard [TS]

  drives are fairly quiet you know I would pay for an SSD to make it smaller and [TS]

  this is the type of thing I'm going to do you need sixty owners sometimes they [TS]

  use all of his far enough [TS]

  yeah probably but I'm rather have sex so the bolt is not their high-end product [TS]

  but right now the bolt has a bunch of features the others don't have the [TS]

  skipping the fast playing Moses just giving you could bring them to the [TS]

  software update could bring that to my model if it doesn't I'll be kind of [TS]

  disappointed but that's entirely like a meta data service thing that nothing to [TS]

  do with the hardware may be my model doesn't have the hardware support or [TS]

  fast enough [TS]

  interns to do the fast playback thing that I don't care if I would never use [TS]

  that feature my Netflix app takes awhile to launch and his little spinners and I [TS]

  gotta wait is that ever gonna be faster mine probably not because the CPU so I'm [TS]

  being the RAM is not getting any bigger or whatever so this TV thing is not a [TS]

  replacement for my electronic I'm I would never replace the storage capacity [TS]

  means I would never replace it with but I'm assuming the TiVo both interesa [TS]

  faster CPU GPU video decoder for k support all that stuff I'm assuming [TS]

  eventually there will be a high-end model that I just hope that it is not [TS]

  been to like this thing I also hope that is not a white even the remote is white [TS]

  people like white I kinda like the white ps4 but if you have kids like crap that [TS]

  doesn't please just don't make them like they're in no way to make the box way to [TS]

  be the only white box has been a week in my entertainment center I need [TS]

  everything to be black and not to be bent so excited by the interesting new [TS]

  features and the increased performance in the increased CPU grant everything [TS]

  else about it is super annoying to me [TS]