The Accidental Tech Podcast

◼   ► I'm sorry everyone follow up so I feel [TS]

◼   ► like we should start tonight's [TS]

◼   ► programming with the tale of woe [TS]

◼   ► i'll start by saying I bought a computer [TS]

◼   ► oh I bought a 5k imac well okay so first [TS]

◼   ► of all congratulations [TS]

◼   ► well yeah maybe not so it's a hand on [TS]

◼   ► heart John and Marco did not know that [TS]

◼   ► this happened I've been keeping this a [TS]

◼   ► secret from them so i could spring it to [TS]

◼   ► spring it on the show I bought a 5k imac [TS]

◼   ► is in your possession yet or did you [TS]

◼   ► just order it [TS]

◼   ► oh it's here it's in my trunk you done [TS]

◼   ► packing yet although i did this is my [TS]

◼   ► tail well does it fit in your trunk and [TS]

◼   ► leave 3 series i'll stop it that's how i [TS]

◼   ► have i bought this 5k imac I don't like [TS]

◼   ► a week ago and i watched it march across [TS]

◼   ► the United States be a fedex ground [TS]

◼   ► which was infuriating [TS]

◼   ► I mean I'd I did it to myself because i [TS]

◼   ► didn't pay for like the super fast [TS]

◼   ► shipping but it was so I'm not a patient [TS]

◼   ► man and it was infuriating watching [TS]

◼   ► march across the US but anyway it [TS]

◼   ► arrived yesterday and I booted it i set [TS]

◼   ► it up by moved files from making my [TS]

◼   ► personal computer with my beloved yet [TS]

◼   ► very old circuit 2011 hi-res antiglare [TS]

◼   ► 15-inch macbook pro i moved files from [TS]

◼   ► my work computer [TS]

◼   ► my my retina macbook pro 15-inch retina [TS]

◼   ► macbook pro I got everything set up i [TS]

◼   ► put all the software i wanted on it at [TS]

◼   ► least at a glance anyway everything [TS]

◼   ► seemed ok i then performed a software [TS]

◼   ► update i let the software update go i [TS]

◼   ► walked away from computer i came back to [TS]

◼   ► the computer it seemed like everything [TS]

◼   ► had hung after like 20 minutes something [TS]

◼   ► like that which was well under the are [TS]

◼   ► well over the time it is estimated to [TS]

◼   ► take the software update to run there's [TS]

◼   ► nothing on the screen the backlight was [TS]

◼   ► on the computer had not to my knowledge [TS]

◼   ► rebooted everything was just there there [TS]

◼   ► i should say nothing was there actually [TS]

◼   ► so I powered the Machine off which to be [TS]

◼   ► clear may have been the fatal mistake [TS]

◼   ► we'll come back to that power the [TS]

◼   ► machine off I've heard it back on [TS]

◼   ► the chime sounds that's it back lights [TS]

◼   ► on the time sounds nothing else [TS]

◼   ► ok turn the computer back off after [TS]

◼   ► having let it sit for a while [TS]

◼   ► turn it back on the chime sounds and [TS]

◼   ► that's it [TS]

◼   ► hmm this is not good ok let's go through [TS]

◼   ► the steps p.m. reset no good [TS]

◼   ► smc reset no-good make a USB boot disk [TS]

◼   ► no-good mesh down on the D key to try to [TS]

◼   ► get the Diagnostics no good recovery no [TS]

◼   ► good internet recovery no good [TS]

◼   ► it's in the trunk i have a genius bar [TS]

◼   ► appointment tomorrow although i may just [TS]

◼   ► end up returning and buying a different [TS]

◼   ► one because it's already completely host [TS]

◼   ► i have no idea what I did it might have [TS]

◼   ► been me [TS]

◼   ► I'm not saying it wasn't me i'm not [TS]

◼   ► looking for the internet to tell me what [TS]

◼   ► it was with respect to the internet it [TS]

◼   ► will be figured out tomorrow i have [TS]

◼   ► engaged to X Apple geniuses i have [TS]

◼   ► engaged a friend of the show [TS]

◼   ► nobody could tell me it a good answers [TS]

◼   ► to what I could do to resuscitate it i [TS]

◼   ► think something just genuinely broke [TS]

◼   ► during the problem where there any like [TS]

◼   ► USB or other kind of devices connected [TS]

◼   ► to it that you could have unplugged did [TS]

◼   ► you try plugging them [TS]

◼   ► oh yes so I had I had my microphone [TS]

◼   ► installed because i was all smug and [TS]

◼   ► happy because the way this but this [TS]

◼   ► episode was supposed to go was I was [TS]

◼   ► supposed to say to you guess what guys I [TS]

◼   ► am now talking to you on my 5k imac the [TS]

◼   ► way this episode is actually going is [TS]

◼   ► guess what guys I actually have to [TS]

◼   ► either return or get this thing repaired [TS]

◼   ► tomorrow which is exactly what i'm going [TS]

◼   ► to do i'm not sure what i'm going to do [TS]

◼   ► yet i'm very sad i did try target disk [TS]

◼   ► mode as somebody is asking the chat [TS]

◼   ► target disk mode i have tried everything [TS]

◼   ► in my repertoire and everything that 2x [TS]

◼   ► geniuses and a friend that works at [TS]

◼   ► apple has asked me to try [TS]

◼   ► none of it has worked i'm very sad but i [TS]

◼   ► will tell you in the two or three hours [TS]

◼   ► that it was working it was a magnificent [TS]

◼   ► computer and I cannot wait to hopefully [TS]

◼   ► get one that works by medics we [TS]

◼   ► yeah so I'm very sad it's a sad sad day [TS]

◼   ► for me it's kinda like my grandfather [TS]

◼   ► were complaining that modern cars [TS]

◼   ► actually specifically i was modern car [TS]

◼   ► engine Bay's don't have any place for [TS]

◼   ► you to get your hands down in them you [TS]

◼   ► know like is everything is all packed [TS]

◼   ► together really tightly and then you [TS]

◼   ► complain about the plastic shroud is [TS]

◼   ► covering everything up and complaining [TS]

◼   ► about how hard it is to replace things [TS]

◼   ► like that are filters and they don't [TS]

◼   ► have carburetors anyway but they related [TS]

◼   ► complaint to your 5k imac is like back [TS]

◼   ► in back in the days of my most feverish [TS]

◼   ► trying to diagnose problems one of the [TS]

◼   ► things that I would do in this situation [TS]

◼   ► I almost adjusted until I realized it's [TS]

◼   ► pointless is to try to figure out what [TS]

◼   ► the hell's going on like hear the chime [TS]

◼   ► it passes the post-test right and then [TS]

◼   ► what happens like are you really cannot [TS]

◼   ► find the discs are you getting into the [TS]

◼   ► boot process and the way you usually [TS]

◼   ► tell that is you could hear whether it [TS]

◼   ► had started accessing the hard drive and [TS]

◼   ► you knew by the series of ticks and [TS]

◼   ► sounds is it is it looking for a boot [TS]

◼   ► sector is it just power cycling discs on [TS]

◼   ► and offers that actually beginning the [TS]

◼   ► boot process which has a distinctive [TS]

◼   ► sound to it or in the old days with the [TS]

◼   ► floppy drive you could tell what the [TS]

◼   ► computer was doing and at what point [TS]

◼   ► things went wrong but with an SSD and [TS]

◼   ► nothing on the screen and definitely no [TS]

◼   ► indicator lights or anything like that [TS]

◼   ► you know hardware indicator lights for [TS]

◼   ► the pc folks [TS]

◼   ► you have no idea what's going on it they [TS]

◼   ► post so there's no image on the screen [TS]

◼   ► has it begun the boot process cannot [TS]

◼   ► find the hard drive [TS]

◼   ► if you mean if we can find the harder [TS]

◼   ► you have the the blinking ? like it but [TS]

◼   ► it did pass posters i think that the [TS]

◼   ► time only sounds after it does the whole [TS]

◼   ► you know that the posters power-on [TS]

◼   ► self-test like the whole you if you have [TS]

◼   ► like bad ram or whatever you get one of [TS]

◼   ► the the bad chimes or something like [TS]

◼   ► that so right like almost all my whole [TS]

◼   ► diagnostic tools are useless for these [TS]

◼   ► computers that don't make any noise [TS]

◼   ► except the stupid fan is the fan going [TS]

◼   ► there we go we can ask that is passed [TS]

◼   ► yes it was as far as like it does it [TS]

◼   ► crank up the full speed if you let it [TS]

◼   ► sit there [TS]

◼   ► no it does not actually let it sit [TS]

◼   ► overnight just to be extra specially [TS]

◼   ► sure that that was that it wasn't just [TS]

◼   ► me being impatient [TS]

◼   ► did you spill water into it i did not [TS]

◼   ► thank you for asking but i haven't read [TS]

◼   ► this important to it to establish that [TS]

◼   ► where I mean are there any openings the [TS]

◼   ► face upwards there in the back means [TS]

◼   ► that you can get water [TS]

◼   ► there's always the bottom left behind my [TS]

◼   ► god that's me that there are no openings [TS]

◼   ► that face upwards i can find is not [TS]

◼   ► doesn't like a slip on top part I don't [TS]

◼   ► see why I didn't think so so yeah so [TS]

◼   ► it's sitting in my trunk to be honest [TS]

◼   ► with you I'll probably just return it [TS]

◼   ► and probably just order a new one [TS]

◼   ► because i feel like it's already tainted [TS]

◼   ► I'm still hoping actually hoping you're [TS]

◼   ► thinking you're suspecting like this is [TS]

◼   ► actually a soft like it's not a hardware [TS]

◼   ► problem is a software problem did you [TS]

◼   ► know you said you tried a million things [TS]

◼   ► the only other one that you didn't [TS]

◼   ► mention that you think other ball two [TS]

◼   ► things like that 1i assuming since you [TS]

◼   ► and he started all these experts you [TS]

◼   ► made sure that they all had the most [TS]

◼   ► recent up-to-date knowledge about the [TS]

◼   ► keys that you have to match because [TS]

◼   ► those have changed over the past couple [TS]

◼   ► of years and a lot of people might give [TS]

◼   ► you advice to hold down key combinations [TS]

◼   ► that are no longer the correct one to [TS]

◼   ► the same operations but something that's [TS]

◼   ► handled that one hurt didn't hear you [TS]

◼   ► mentioned is Bruce Bruce are both [TS]

◼   ► putting mode i believe its command V you [TS]

◼   ► should look it up the one that spews you [TS]

◼   ► know the unix console text to your [TS]

◼   ► screen during the boot process sometimes [TS]

◼   ► that's a good way to find out at one [TS]

◼   ► point things go off the rails during the [TS]

◼   ► boot process assuming the boot process [TS]

◼   ► even began the I did not try that [TS]

◼   ► however i did not mention that I also [TS]

◼   ► phoned applecare at like they're not [TS]

◼   ► going to help you [TS]

◼   ► well my thought was let me give them a [TS]

◼   ► shot see what they could figure out I [TS]

◼   ► and i started the conversation slightly [TS]

◼   ► well mildly passive-aggressively and i [TS]

◼   ► said here's what i've tried p.m. recent [TS]

◼   ► smc recent blah-blah-blah-blah-blah to [TS]

◼   ► try to establish we really don't need to [TS]

◼   ► go through all of this again if you [TS]

◼   ► please have you tried blowing the dust [TS]

◼   ► out of the plug but if the smc reset [TS]

◼   ► apparently on the East max is to unplug [TS]

◼   ► it wait 15 seconds and plug it back in [TS]

◼   ► or something along those lines in any [TS]

◼   ► case I tried everything you had a try i [TS]

◼   ► tried everything that the applecare [TS]

◼   ► person till told me to do so in all [TS]

◼   ► likelihood i will just return it [TS]

◼   ► tomorrow I've not you cancel my genius [TS]

◼   ► to put appointment we will see what [TS]

◼   ► happens i cannot stress enough internet [TS]

◼   ► that by the time you hear this episode [TS]

◼   ► if this will already be resolved one way [TS]

◼   ► or another [TS]

◼   ► well it'll be in the process of he's not [TS]

◼   ► well it'll be in the process of being [TS]

◼   ► resolved please internet I appreciate [TS]

◼   ► your feedback but it is too late by the [TS]

◼   ► time you've heard this he is the fast [TS]

◼   ► bring for advisement if i order a new [TS]

◼   ► one [TS]

◼   ► I will absolutely spring for the fast [TS]

◼   ► shipping because now i'm really really [TS]

◼   ► sad that my literally i use the thing [TS]

◼   ► let's see it was seven o'clock because [TS]

◼   ► after Declan went to bed that I booted [TS]

◼   ► it and started transferring everything [TS]

◼   ► and at ten o'clock or thereabouts-- was [TS]

◼   ► when i was calling applecare so i used [TS]

◼   ► it for three hours [TS]

◼   ► I feel so bad for you for this because [TS]

◼   ► well in that let's not forget this is [TS]

◼   ► the first desktop bought in easily a [TS]

◼   ► decade yeah and we will definitely [TS]

◼   ► interrogate you about why you chose to [TS]

◼   ► do this and why you did it now and and [TS]

◼   ► etcetera because i really want to know [TS]

◼   ► all these things but first of all I do [TS]

◼   ► want to express my sincere condolences [TS]

◼   ► because like I i hate it like if you cut [TS]

◼   ► it it's so puts a damper on like you [TS]

◼   ► know a big purchase of a thing you're [TS]

◼   ► really excited about that you hardly [TS]

◼   ► ever get to buy and all the end like it [TS]

◼   ► comes and it has some problem that you [TS]

◼   ► have to deal with that sucks it puts [TS]

◼   ► such a damper on the whole thing [TS]

◼   ► yeah it really does and you know what I [TS]

◼   ► thought about those so yesterday [TS]

◼   ► obviously I was much more angry and [TS]

◼   ► pissed off than I am now yet but [TS]

◼   ► yesterday i was thinking about it and I [TS]

◼   ► thought what if for the sake of [TS]

◼   ► conversation [TS]

◼   ► this was my very first mac like that's a [TS]

◼   ► terrible experience now admittedly this [TS]

◼   ► is this is definitely a fluke [TS]

◼   ► this is this is weird this is not [TS]

◼   ► something that normally happens to my [TS]

◼   ► recollection in my eight years of owning [TS]

◼   ► max I think that's ready to eat issues [TS]

◼   ► of only max I have never had a software [TS]

◼   ► update fail so I to be clear this is a [TS]

◼   ► fluke it's just it's weird but damn if [TS]

◼   ► it isn't frustrating and all my goodness [TS]

◼   ► if I was if this was my first mac i [TS]

◼   ► would go I would go running back to Del [TS]

◼   ► now I'm not an idiot [TS]

◼   ► so I'm not going to do that my crazy [TS]

◼   ► here no i agree i agree but i'm just [TS]

◼   ► saying like if this was imagine if your [TS]

◼   ► first experience with this you know it [TS]

◼   ► was like you know 32 3032 hundred-dollar [TS]

◼   ► computer it imagine your first [TS]

◼   ► experiences all it works for three hours [TS]

◼   ► and then it's dead all of it it doesn't [TS]

◼   ► really matter like that experience [TS]

◼   ► doesn't really matter unless it must [TS]

◼   ► some kind of epidemic which i'm assuming [TS]

◼   ► it isn't right but I every every every [TS]

◼   ► company has like the DOA things all that [TS]

◼   ► matters is what happens after that's all [TS]

◼   ► that that's what that's what you know i [TS]

◼   ► mean like for dell the reason to [TS]

◼   ► galleries a lot of people like [TS]

◼   ► all in the enterprise anyway is that [TS]

◼   ► when something happens when someone [TS]

◼   ► drops a dell laptop on something breaks [TS]

◼   ► or whatever you can have new hardware in [TS]

◼   ► your hands in a shockingly small amount [TS]

◼   ► of time and so it's not let you know [TS]

◼   ► that things are gonna happen you're [TS]

◼   ► gonna get out you gonna buy 50 dell [TS]

◼   ► laptops and one of them is going to be [TS]

◼   ► DOA that's not the thing that annoys you [TS]

◼   ► would annoy you for example here we're [TS]

◼   ► going to apple if you had to wait a week [TS]

◼   ► to get the new one it doesn't know you [TS]

◼   ► if the next morning when you come into [TS]

◼   ► work somebody from dell is there with [TS]

◼   ► the box and says give me your old one [TS]

◼   ► here's your new one later and you're [TS]

◼   ► like go [TS]

◼   ► that was easy and so for apple like the [TS]

◼   ► thing that counts is how good was your [TS]

◼   ► applecare phone experience which in my [TS]

◼   ► experience is not that great how when [TS]

◼   ► you go to the Genius Bar how's that [TS]

◼   ► experience going to be and how you know [TS]

◼   ► how much faster they give you how [TS]

◼   ► sympathetic are they this matters to how [TS]

◼   ► sympathetic is the person to your [TS]

◼   ► frustration about getting a do a [TS]

◼   ► computer which is basically how its set [TS]

◼   ► categorize this is assuming there's a [TS]

◼   ► hardware thing it's not like the [TS]

◼   ► software update brokers just you know [TS]

◼   ► the hardware problem with this machine [TS]

◼   ► which is DOA and it's best to find out [TS]

◼   ► now right [TS]

◼   ► it's all about how it's handled after [TS]

◼   ► the fact that my 152 Apple stories about [TS]

◼   ► this thing of that told the other one [TS]

◼   ► I'm past broadcast when I got my ac30 [TS]

◼   ► the power supply made a high pitch noise [TS]

◼   ► that only people under thirty could hear [TS]

◼   ► how do you remember this yeah and that [TS]

◼   ► was my most disappointing one because [TS]

◼   ► because I was a kid and when your kid or [TS]

◼   ► like when your kid at heart like Casey [TS]

◼   ► you get your hopes up this exciting new [TS]

◼   ► shiny computer and it comes and you're [TS]

◼   ► sad right so that was that was the most [TS]

◼   ► crushing one and the other one which I [TS]

◼   ► may have mentioned the passes when this [TS]

◼   ► is the pizza box powerpc performer [TS]

◼   ► actually performing 61 something CD got [TS]

◼   ► that for Christmas and offers a family [TS]

◼   ► computer but whatever it's mine and the [TS]

◼   ► the terrible gross pc sourced 15-inch [TS]

◼   ► multisync apple monitor that came with [TS]

◼   ► it was DOA like the monitors didn't work [TS]

◼   ► you plugged in and nothing happened no [TS]

◼   ► lights came on the screen so i got that [TS]

◼   ► Christmas Day and I was older so I [TS]

◼   ► wasn't totally you know devastated i [TS]

◼   ► didn't have any other monitors that [TS]

◼   ► could fit because of the differences in [TS]

◼   ► the connectors this was a multisync [TS]

◼   ► monitors basically a pc monitor [TS]

◼   ► connector with a slight difference in [TS]

◼   ► any way [TS]

◼   ► my other ones wouldn't work with it so [TS]

◼   ► you get something on Christmas music [TS]

◼   ► Christmas you said to apple had a new [TS]

◼   ► monitor on our front doorstep the [TS]

◼   ► morning after Christmas [TS]

◼   ► that's pretty impressive that yeah so as [TS]

◼   ► it not only do they not wait for us to [TS]

◼   ► ship it back or you know ship it to us [TS]

◼   ► and get here is that was like you're sad [TS]

◼   ► on christmas day you go to sleep you [TS]

◼   ► wake up the next morning the monitors on [TS]

◼   ► your doorstep and so that was pretty [TS]

◼   ► amazing [TS]

◼   ► yeah i'm i'm curious to see how this [TS]

◼   ► works out but you're absolutely right [TS]

◼   ► that it it's all about how how [TS]

◼   ► sympathetic people are and how people [TS]

◼   ► react to it and I think it will be fine [TS]

◼   ► it all it all work itself out but I'm it [TS]

◼   ► man what a bummer what a serious bummer [TS]

◼   ► and how much hassle it is like that you [TS]

◼   ► have to convince anyone of anything is [TS]

◼   ► there a lot of paperwork to fill out how [TS]

◼   ► long does it take for you to have the [TS]

◼   ► situation remedied to your satisfaction [TS]

◼   ► like you can make a big difference even [TS]

◼   ► if even if like you got it fixed the [TS]

◼   ► next day but to do that you have to like [TS]

◼   ► argue with someone on the phone that's a [TS]

◼   ► terrible experience but right if you go [TS]

◼   ► through it and someone is sympathetic [TS]

◼   ► and just just you know it seems like [TS]

◼   ► bump that's it [TS]

◼   ► yep that's it you'll have a new computer [TS]

◼   ► on Dax you're like oh that was easy and [TS]

◼   ► you come away from that experience if [TS]

◼   ► everything has gone well actually liking [TS]

◼   ► the brand more than you would have if [TS]

◼   ► you had just gotten the thing and it [TS]

◼   ► worked out of the box with yeah totally [TS]

◼   ► that the perverse way the human nature [TS]

◼   ► works the worst of the worst one though [TS]

◼   ► the one you can't recover from luckily [TS]

◼   ► were all out of this phase is like when [TS]

◼   ► i got my obscenely expensive Apple 22 [TS]

◼   ► inch LCD monitor and had dead pixels on [TS]

◼   ► it and I tried to look for them but i [TS]

◼   ► can see that you know about that because [TS]

◼   ► I knew going in with the policy was the [TS]

◼   ► policy is it is an X number of pixels [TS]

◼   ► know this our part or whatever sorry [TS]

◼   ► luck of the draw you got unlucky and you [TS]

◼   ► know i guess i suppose i could have [TS]

◼   ► returned it and tried again and returned [TS]

◼   ► it and try to get her in here and didn't [TS]

◼   ► try it again but I was just not up for [TS]

◼   ► that you know yesterday I was really [TS]

◼   ► upset [TS]

◼   ► not even just angry i was i was [TS]

◼   ► genuinely upset but today with a little [TS]

◼   ► bit of clarity and how whole i can see [TS]

◼   ► that this is like the most first world [TS]

◼   ► first world problems that my shiny new [TS]

◼   ► computer didn't work immediately [TS]

◼   ► oh well like get over yourself but [TS]

◼   ► man it it did bum me out a little bit [TS]

◼   ► i'm you paid good money for that thing [TS]

◼   ► don't you know don't diminish this [TS]

◼   ► yeah so hopefully will rectify itself we [TS]

◼   ► don't we don't need to talk about this [TS]

◼   ► anymore if if you guys don't have [TS]

◼   ► anything to say we can move on to follow [TS]

◼   ► up if you have any other questions I'm [TS]

◼   ► happy to feel them [TS]

◼   ► I have so many questions but first can [TS]

◼   ► sponsor peridot at first a quick [TS]

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◼   ► at capcom / ATP for fifty bucks off so [TS]

◼   ► anyway thank you Casper sorry about the [TS]

◼   ► mistake we respond to this week by [TS]

◼   ► fracture go to fracture me.com and use [TS]

◼   ► code ATP 15 for fifteen percent off your [TS]

◼   ► first order they're fracture is vivid [TS]

◼   ► color photo prints print directly on [TS]

◼   ► glass fracture prints are beautiful your [TS]

◼   ► photos printed on these then flat light [TS]

◼   ► pieces of glass and that their visits [TS]

◼   ► very like modern minimal presentation [TS]

◼   ► it's just literally your photos [TS]

◼   ► edge-to-edge printed on this piece of [TS]

◼   ► glass [TS]

◼   ► it's very thin very lightweight so you [TS]

◼   ► don't have to worry about it like [TS]

◼   ► crashing down off the wall are being [TS]

◼   ► hard to hang or hard to install or [TS]

◼   ► anything like that are breaking and [TS]

◼   ► chipping all sorts of worries you might [TS]

◼   ► have about getting a giant photo print [TS]

◼   ► on glass that I all those words have [TS]

◼   ► always been alleviated for me with [TS]

◼   ► fracture but these prints look great and [TS]

◼   ► they really want you to get your print [TS]

◼   ► kinda you know out of the Instagram feed [TS]

◼   ► out of the facebook galleries and [TS]

◼   ► everything like get photos that are [TS]

◼   ► great printed because once you put him [TS]

◼   ► in like a social feel that that was like [TS]

◼   ► a week passes those are gone you never [TS]

◼   ► see them again like it really helps to [TS]

◼   ► enjoy your photos to have them printed [TS]

◼   ► out they also make fantastic gifts for [TS]

◼   ► other people in your life who want to [TS]

◼   ► enjoy your photos like family members [TS]

◼   ► like it especially like if you have kids [TS]

◼   ► or anything you want to like send a [TS]

◼   ► picture your kids to their grandparents [TS]

◼   ► or whatever [TS]

◼   ► there are so many great uses for [TS]

◼   ► fracture gifts photos for yourself [TS]

◼   ► yeah and just to double down on that [TS]

◼   ► real quick just this past week when i [TS]

◼   ► was in a happier mood uh yeah actually [TS]

◼   ► made a like six item fracture order [TS]

◼   ► because i have plenty of fractures [TS]

◼   ► around the house and we're actually [TS]

◼   ► gonna start distributing them as gifts [TS]

◼   ► and so we bought a bunch for gifts [TS]

◼   ► including one for our for our own house [TS]

◼   ► they really are fantastic and i tell you [TS]

◼   ► what i have them i paid for them in the [TS]

◼   ► past by paid for them just this week and [TS]

◼   ► they're great [TS]

◼   ► you really should try it out so check [TS]

◼   ► them out go to fracture me.com and use [TS]

◼   ► code ATP 15 to get fifteen percent off [TS]

◼   ► your first order thank you very much to [TS]

◼   ► fracture for sponsoring this week one of [TS]

◼   ► my question was about I know you're not [TS]

◼   ► gonna mess with it yourself but uh ram [TS]

◼   ► the wiggles loose as the thing took its [TS]

◼   ► bumpy little journey across the entire [TS]

◼   ► country [TS]

◼   ► I it's funny you say that I receded the [TS]

◼   ► ram just to be safe [TS]

◼   ► no difference I'll see I would've said [TS]

◼   ► the same thing is to not try to do that [TS]

◼   ► because i don't know like you peed on [TS]

◼   ► the carpet and like a ditz i would i [TS]

◼   ► would be like look I just can't I [TS]

◼   ► haven't touched a thing that came out of [TS]

◼   ► the box i've been using it like use a [TS]

◼   ► computer by pressing buttons on the [TS]

◼   ► keyboard and mouse or trackpad and now [TS]

◼   ► it's Friday like all you opened it up [TS]

◼   ► well but you're supposed to be a little [TS]

◼   ► bit up by you know so I just most [TS]

◼   ► paranoid with apples i would not have [TS]

◼   ► even tried that I would have just [TS]

◼   ► brought inside of the Rams unseated it's [TS]

◼   ► not my problem in touch fair fair Point [TS]

◼   ► and actually that brings up a really [TS]

◼   ► interesting point let me tell you how I [TS]

◼   ► know i'm old i was extremely and remain [TS]

◼   ► actually extremely skeptical that me [TS]

◼   ► doing like command are for recovery I [TS]

◼   ► believe that's right i was looking at [TS]

◼   ► the documents when i was when i was [TS]

◼   ► doing these keystrokes if I get them [TS]

◼   ► wrong now I apologize but I command our [TS]

◼   ► option command or whatever it is for [TS]

◼   ► internet recovery and d4 diagnostics all [TS]

◼   ► these things that was mashing i [TS]

◼   ► initially was doing that on the new [TS]

◼   ► bluetooth keyboard that came with it [TS]

◼   ► which by the way i like quite a bit i [TS]

◼   ► really like it a lot a lot this is the [TS]

◼   ► new like semi skinny one right that's [TS]

◼   ► correct but anyway so I'm doing all of [TS]

◼   ► this and I'm doing it on a Bluetooth [TS]

◼   ► keyboard and the old man in me is so [TS]

◼   ► damn skeptical that this keyboard is [TS]

◼   ► even connected to the computer that i [TS]

◼   ► first plugged it in with the lightning [TS]

◼   ► cable then I decided no I'm not even [TS]

◼   ► convinced that's good enough and i have [TS]

◼   ► a hundred one key apple keyboard that i [TS]

◼   ► got from god-knows-where that's USB i [TS]

◼   ► plug that in and did all these keys [TS]

◼   ► looks again just to be safe but it's it [TS]

◼   ► weirded me out to be relying on wireless [TS]

◼   ► devices in order to try to kick off [TS]

◼   ► these extremely low-level like boot [TS]

◼   ► sequences I don't just mean that's me [TS]

◼   ► being old and weird i suppose [TS]

◼   ► anyway any other questions for sure we [TS]

◼   ► do some follow-up why did you get this [TS]

◼   ► computer right so I knew it was time to [TS]

◼   ► get a different computer i hadn't bought [TS]

◼   ► a computer since my i already mentioned [TS]

◼   ► 2011 hi-res entire back pro that thing [TS]

◼   ► sits on my desk constantly that's all it [TS]

◼   ► does is sit on the desk and even though [TS]

◼   ► I've been a laptop guy for easily a [TS]

◼   ► decade and change in fact i think i made [TS]

◼   ► the switch during school so somewhere in [TS]

◼   ► the early 2000s was when I really became [TS]

◼   ► a laptop kind of guy and i thought to [TS]

◼   ► myself i will have a work laptop as we [TS]

◼   ► discussed quite a bit of heat that [TS]

◼   ► several episodes back I'll have a work [TS]

◼   ► laptop and it occurred to me just [TS]

◼   ► yesterday that i have my high resident [TS]

◼   ► eclair you know macbook pro that I could [TS]

◼   ► put an SSD and like we were just talking [TS]

◼   ► about so i will still have a laptop and [TS]

◼   ► even in a real pinch I can take errands [TS]

◼   ► a scuba-diving macbook her and use that [TS]

◼   ► if I really wanted to use a laptop [TS]

◼   ► beyond that as I've also talked about on [TS]

◼   ► the show Aaron got me a brand new ipad [TS]

◼   ► mini for Christmas and for a lot of [TS]

◼   ► things especially when mated to a [TS]

◼   ► bluetooth keyboard that's probably [TS]

◼   ► sufficient so say I wanted to write a [TS]

◼   ► blog post downstairs while I'm sitting [TS]

◼   ► next to her on the couch [TS]

◼   ► I could use my iPad I could use her [TS]

◼   ► laptop I could use my old laptop I could [TS]

◼   ► use my work laptop so if i have like 80 [TS]

◼   ► for portable devices rolling around the [TS]

◼   ► house [TS]

◼   ► do I really need another but i have a [TS]

◼   ► couple of things that I really want [TS]

◼   ► running all the time like plex for [TS]

◼   ► example why not have that running on a [TS]

◼   ► desktop rather than running on my yet my [TS]

◼   ► laptop and so it seems to me like I'm [TS]

◼   ► running out of good reasons to have a [TS]

◼   ► laptop and so if I'm gonna get a desktop [TS]

◼   ► and damned if I don't lust after these [TS]

◼   ► like apple cinema displays that are all [TS]

◼   ► over the place on the client that i'm [TS]

◼   ► working at which we talked about in the [TS]

◼   ► past [TS]

◼   ► one just bite the bullet and get a damn [TS]

◼   ► imac and that's what I did and I tell [TS]

◼   ► you what it's weird only having one [TS]

◼   ► monitor because at home [TS]

◼   ► not right now actually because I put it [TS]

◼   ► away but at home I typically have two [TS]

◼   ► monitors at work I always have two [TS]

◼   ► monitors it's weird only having one [TS]

◼   ► monitor those you can have to donate [TS]

◼   ► melon [TS]

◼   ► yeah I know you thank you thank you oh [TS]

◼   ► my god thank you i know you can have to [TS]

◼   ► write but when it's a 27-inch screen [TS]

◼   ► you really told needed it's really ok [TS]

◼   ► and all my god is that screen beautiful [TS]

◼   ► did you guys know that screen is really [TS]

◼   ► pretty I feel like we should talk about [TS]

◼   ► this in the past or something but Marco [TS]

◼   ► has the worst one but I have the same [TS]

◼   ► one as you know it if only somebody [TS]

◼   ► would have told you about a month ago [TS]

◼   ► but all the benefits of death yes yes [TS]

◼   ► yes [TS]

◼   ► so eventually i thought you know it's [TS]

◼   ► all kidding aside I thought you know let [TS]

◼   ► me just try this test something because [TS]

◼   ► you know what it's a lot of fun time no [TS]

◼   ► question full stop it's a lot of money [TS]

◼   ► I what I got was under apologize i said [TS]

◼   ► this already but I got a [TS]

◼   ► middle-of-the-road 1i I got it with [TS]

◼   ► eight gigs of ram because i was planning [TS]

◼   ► on putting some aftermarket ram in it [TS]

◼   ► did you get cpu I got the four 4 [TS]

◼   ► gigahertz CPU yes and I got the one [TS]

◼   ► terabyte SSD so basically a fairly [TS]

◼   ► loaded middle-of-the-road i'm at 5k imac [TS]

◼   ► because i didn't see the need for a [TS]

◼   ► really fancy graphics card because I [TS]

◼   ► don't ever play games so I i loved the [TS]

◼   ► machine for the three hours to use that [TS]

◼   ► benefited i and i'm really looking [TS]

◼   ► forward to sticking with it i really [TS]

◼   ► think this is probably going to be the [TS]

◼   ► right answer for me ask me again in a [TS]

◼   ► few months obviously and i say that both [TS]

◼   ► sarcastically and seriously because I'm [TS]

◼   ► curious to see if I miss it [TS]

◼   ► who works here yeah if it works but i'm [TS]

◼   ► i'm really thinking that that this was [TS]

◼   ► probably the right answer especially if [TS]

◼   ► I start doing a little more iOS [TS]

◼   ► development which I'm i'm hoping to be [TS]

◼   ► doing soon [TS]

◼   ► that's a pretty good way to do it and i [TS]

◼   ► will say that after having used this [TS]

◼   ► 27-inch 5k imac fourth two-and-a-half to [TS]

◼   ► three hours as i was going to [TS]

◼   ► troubleshoot I got out my work 15 inch [TS]

◼   ► retina macbook pro and hand on heart the [TS]

◼   ► first thing i thought to myself was holy [TS]

◼   ► God the screen is tiny and is never [TS]

◼   ► thought that 15 inch laptop ever before [TS]

◼   ► in my life [TS]

◼   ► yes so two things you you're not ruined [TS]

◼   ► our first of all the screen quality of [TS]

◼   ► the 5k is still way better even the 1i [TS]

◼   ► have that that has the worst color gamut [TS]

◼   ► than yours [TS]

◼   ► it is the the screen on the 5k is way [TS]

◼   ► better than the screen on any of the [TS]

◼   ► laptops including the newest 15 will see [TS]

◼   ► that changes when they go to sky like a [TS]

◼   ► moon a few months or whatever but as of [TS]

◼   ► today like it [TS]

◼   ► the imax screen is by far the nicest [TS]

◼   ► screen apple sells in my eye maybe ipad [TS]

◼   ► pro I haven't looked too much added but [TS]

◼   ► like I thought the ipad mini was [TS]

◼   ► actually the best of the portables at me [TS]

◼   ► maybe you know for like certain metrics [TS]

◼   ► I you know I i know the test you're [TS]

◼   ► talking about but I like among max I [TS]

◼   ► think the 5k imac is just far away far [TS]

◼   ► ahead of the other ones because just I [TS]

◼   ► mean everything about it like that the [TS]

◼   ► color the contrast like the the pixel [TS]

◼   ► density I don't know a bunch of stuff i [TS]

◼   ► understand it just looks great and once [TS]

◼   ► you're accustomed to looking at a 5k [TS]

◼   ► when you look at the retina macbook pro [TS]

◼   ► you you can tell them they're in a macro [TS]

◼   ► screen almost seems blurry by comparison [TS]

◼   ► like its it is a very different look and [TS]

◼   ► it looks fantastic on the 5k and so [TS]

◼   ► first of all you are now ruined so yes [TS]

◼   ► you can go ahead and plug in additional [TS]

◼   ► monitors to it but you won't want to [TS]

◼   ► because anything else you plug into it [TS]

◼   ► look like garbage and apple is no is not [TS]

◼   ► yet shipping a standalone version of [TS]

◼   ► this monitor i hope they do in the [TS]

◼   ► future and for people to do what [TS]

◼   ► multi-monitor or who don't have a laptop [TS]

◼   ► don't have a 5k but having a laptop or [TS]

◼   ► something but for now this is the best [TS]

◼   ► green apple sells the only way you can [TS]

◼   ► get it is inside the 5ki and nothing [TS]

◼   ► nothing else matches it and even having [TS]

◼   ► a laptop next to it is is just no kinda [TS]

◼   ► so a you ruin screen quality and B [TS]

◼   ► you're definitely on screen size you [TS]

◼   ► know now and this is how i feel about [TS]

◼   ► how it felt for years ever since i got a [TS]

◼   ► giant monitor like this I i can do work [TS]

◼   ► on my 15-inch macbook pro and i have and [TS]

◼   ► i need to usually a few times a year i [TS]

◼   ► need to do something really heavy on the [TS]

◼   ► map program glad I have it but every [TS]

◼   ► time i do work on the map or i'm tempted [TS]

◼   ► to work the macbook pro and I [TS]

◼   ► can work on the desktop like either [TS]

◼   ► either it's just on the outside of the [TS]

◼   ► house or I'll be back to back home in a [TS]

◼   ► couple days and i can do it then i will [TS]

◼   ► just put off work until I can do it on [TS]

◼   ► the big screen because i know that i [TS]

◼   ► will wait happier and more productive [TS]

◼   ► doing on the big screen so like you will [TS]

◼   ► probably follow a similar path variable [TS]

◼   ► people really well I could work on this [TS]

◼   ► laptop but screen is so cramped but it's [TS]

◼   ► might as well just wait till I can go [TS]

◼   ► upstairs and do it on the imac yeah yeah [TS]

◼   ► we'll say I am I am genuinely a little [TS]

◼   ► i'm going to use the word worried [TS]

◼   ► because I can't think of a better word [TS]

◼   ► but i'm a little worried about what this [TS]

◼   ► means for my home life and for my [TS]

◼   ► relationship with aaron because I I [TS]

◼   ► don't often sit with a laptop downstairs [TS]

◼   ► next errand but i wouldn't say it's [TS]

◼   ► uncommon either and now if I want to use [TS]

◼   ► my computer I'm gonna have to be [TS]

◼   ► upstairs in one of our bedrooms which [TS]

◼   ► you know is always my in-home office and [TS]

◼   ► that's what I'm saying right now to [TS]

◼   ► record and so I don't want to ignore [TS]

◼   ► Aaron on a regular basis [TS]

◼   ► just because I want to be upstairs in my [TS]

◼   ► fancy new imac but we'll see what [TS]

◼   ► happens i mean if that's the most of my [TS]

◼   ► problems I'm in pretty damn good shape [TS]

◼   ► our nice so we'll see but I i don't mean [TS]

◼   ► this to be snarky I mean I genuinely and [TS]

◼   ► then the two and a half three hours [TS]

◼   ► I'm i would I use the thing I really [TS]

◼   ► really really loved it i really did and [TS]

◼   ► admittedly some of that was a shiny but [TS]

◼   ► it was fast it worked well I was [TS]

◼   ► transferring things from both laptops to [TS]

◼   ► the to the to the imac a God knows [TS]

◼   ► what's gonna happen with that data if I [TS]

◼   ► return it but anyway uh I was [TS]

◼   ► transferring stuff to the imac at at [TS]

◼   ► ridiculous speeds i was doing like 18 [TS]

◼   ► things at once i'm a really heavy user [TS]

◼   ► of what is its paces the multiple [TS]

◼   ► virtual screens and it's all wrapped [TS]

◼   ► into Mission Control now but i barely [TS]

◼   ► use them on this imac because god help [TS]

◼   ► me I have like 10 different windows open [TS]

◼   ► at once shut up John I'd like 10 [TS]

◼   ► different winter so but it wants which [TS]

◼   ► is like eight more that i usually have I [TS]

◼   ► don't know maybe I just have a simple [TS]

◼   ► simple mind yet [TS]

◼   ► I think you're not the only one with [TS]

◼   ► spaces i see with all these youngsters [TS]

◼   ► at work who [TS]

◼   ► we have many more max at work now we [TS]

◼   ► have many more youngsters at work and [TS]

◼   ► ever ever it's very easy and multiple [TS]

◼   ► monitors at work so that the domain like [TS]

◼   ► the wave young people and generalizing [TS]

◼   ► the way the young people i see at my [TS]

◼   ► work these days you write exactly use [TS]

◼   ► their max is that multiple monitors they [TS]

◼   ► like lots of monitors like the more the [TS]

◼   ► better one guy like six with wrinkles [TS]

◼   ► and they full screen everything and they [TS]

◼   ► attempt to use spaces in Mission Control [TS]

◼   ► to cycle through things like I'll be [TS]

◼   ► sitting there and watching somebody do [TS]

◼   ► something that they're there they'll be [TS]

◼   ► demonstrating something they'll have to [TS]

◼   ► have a text editor full screen on one [TS]

◼   ► 17-inch monitor and another text editor [TS]

◼   ► web browser for another 17-inch monitor [TS]

◼   ► and sometimes would be like well go to [TS]

◼   ► this web page go to the source file go [TS]

◼   ► to this go do that go to the terminal [TS]

◼   ► window all these things would fit like [TS]

◼   ► 117 screen at the person who like use [TS]

◼   ► windows windows down because really [TS]

◼   ► terminal terminal filling an entire [TS]

◼   ► letterbox format 17 inch screen is [TS]

◼   ► ridiculous right but instead it's like [TS]

◼   ► where's that window again where that [TS]

◼   ► window lots of gestures and keyboard [TS]

◼   ► combinations to you know go through [TS]

◼   ► spaces with the control arrow keys and [TS]

◼   ► gestures to swipe from one to the other [TS]

◼   ► to try to make the thing they're looking [TS]

◼   ► for appear on one of the two screens and [TS]

◼   ► I can't see what's in front of behind [TS]

◼   ► they just have to like and they don't [TS]

◼   ► seem to have an awareness there's no [TS]

◼   ► like like it used to be where spaces [TS]

◼   ► were 2d instead of just like a 1d strip [TS]

◼   ► remember the 2d spaces things we go up [TS]

◼   ► down left and right at least ever [TS]

◼   ► fighting chance instead what I see it is [TS]

◼   ► two screens that the icy hands moving [TS]

◼   ► furiously I see two screens blink blink [TS]

◼   ► blink blink blink blink blink [TS]

◼   ► all I found it there and then we'll go [TS]

◼   ► back to the thing okay blink blink blink [TS]

◼   ► blink blink blink blink found this like [TS]

◼   ► this is this does not seem efficient so [TS]

◼   ► yeah anyway people like a movie should [TS]

◼   ► we should know this from the from [TS]

◼   ► Windows Windows taught us that people [TS]

◼   ► like to maximize everything and the mac [TS]

◼   ► users like well max used on maximizing [TS]

◼   ► everything well guess what [TS]

◼   ► now that Max are more common the people [TS]

◼   ► who maximize everything have max and [TS]

◼   ► they try to work the same way so don't [TS]

◼   ► do that Casey it's a waste of your [TS]

◼   ► screen space but i don't typically [TS]

◼   ► maximize everything but what I typically [TS]

◼   ► do is have spaces kind of Orient like [TS]

◼   ► things [TS]

◼   ► well as an example the probably the the [TS]

◼   ► best example is I have one space that [TS]

◼   ► has my work I am the relay slack and I [TS]

◼   ► messages in three tiles on that space [TS]

◼   ► they take up the whole screen so though [TS]

◼   ► the left half the screen is work i am [TS]

◼   ► this is on like a work computer of [TS]

◼   ► course left half the screen is work i am [TS]

◼   ► and then the right half the screen is [TS]

◼   ► split in half so the top half is real a [TS]

◼   ► slack and the bottom half is I messages [TS]

◼   ► and that's actually what's going on [TS]

◼   ► right now so that's just a simple [TS]

◼   ► example and I like spaces it's not for [TS]

◼   ► everyone but like i said when i was [TS]

◼   ► using this imac i found that that I [TS]

◼   ► could just tile damn near everything [TS]

◼   ► into one space which is a weird thing [TS]

◼   ► for me but but my love of spaces is also [TS]

◼   ► the reason that I feel like I can't use [TS]

◼   ► any other mouse other than the magic [TS]

◼   ► mouse because i'm addicted to the [TS]

◼   ► two-finger swipe I understand that [TS]

◼   ► Mike's beloved MX revolution or whatever [TS]

◼   ► it is has configurations in which you [TS]

◼   ► can swap spaces with buttons and whatnot [TS]

◼   ► but but for me I've always use the magic [TS]

◼   ► mouse i love it plus the mass crippled [TS]

◼   ► him so then that Mouse also crippled him [TS]

◼   ► so there's that [TS]

◼   ► minor details right no big deal right so [TS]

◼   ► anyway so yes I in my brief usage and [TS]

◼   ► again I know I sound snarky but I'm not [TS]

◼   ► trying to be in my very brief usage of [TS]

◼   ► this machine I actually really really [TS]

◼   ► really liked it and if I return it [TS]

◼   ► tomorrow if I get it repaired tomorrow [TS]

◼   ► one way or the other i am looking [TS]

◼   ► forward to having some [TS]

◼   ► honest-to-goodness time with it but it [TS]

◼   ► was fast it was it was nice it was [TS]

◼   ► pretty the screen was beautiful i really [TS]

◼   ► enjoy the new peripheral peripherals the [TS]

◼   ► under the new magic mouse seemed roughly [TS]

◼   ► the same to me I couldn't tell any major [TS]

◼   ► differences like I understand what the [TS]

◼   ► differences are but just from feel and [TS]

◼   ► whatnot I couldn't really tell the [TS]

◼   ► differences the new keyboard though I [TS]

◼   ► really really liked a lot I feel like [TS]

◼   ► every single Apple keyboard in the house [TS]

◼   ► i have the 2011 macbook pro I of the [TS]

◼   ► 2013-2015 macbook pro i have the hundred [TS]

◼   ► one keyboard i have a4 battery bluetooth [TS]

◼   ► keyboard i have errands macbook air [TS]

◼   ► every single one of those keyboards I [TS]

◼   ► swear to you feels just a little bit [TS]

◼   ► different but i really liked the new the [TS]

◼   ► new bluetooth one I've what is it the [TS]

◼   ► magic keyboard or something i always get [TS]

◼   ► the names wrong anyway the whatever the [TS]

◼   ► brand new one is I really liked it a lot [TS]

◼   ► so so the hardware accepting the fact [TS]

◼   ► that it died with this waterfall and and [TS]

◼   ► I you know it too quick personal [TS]

◼   ► anecdote my office is a disaster [TS]

◼   ► the the one in my house is a disaster [TS]

◼   ► you could barely see the carpet and [TS]

◼   ► there was like a path between the door [TS]

◼   ► and the chair and that was about it and [TS]

◼   ► in preparation for this thing it was as [TS]

◼   ► it was marching across the country [TS]

◼   ► I finally did what aaron has been [TS]

◼   ► begging me to do for like two years now [TS]

◼   ► and I cleaned up my office and my desk [TS]

◼   ► was all clean i have a glass desk [TS]

◼   ► because I've had it forever but I guess [TS]

◼   ► I'm that kind of loser and so I have [TS]

◼   ► this glass desk is all cleaned off i [TS]

◼   ► moved my mic from one side of the desk [TS]

◼   ► to the other with your podcasters like a [TS]

◼   ► really big deal and I was all ready to [TS]

◼   ► go with it was going to be great and now [TS]

◼   ► it's in my trunk to get prepared to [TS]

◼   ► return tomorrow [TS]

◼   ► that's sucks yeah i'm very sad because I [TS]

◼   ► really do feel so bad for you because i [TS]

◼   ► like i like i just as i said earlier [TS]

◼   ► like the idea of like you know having [TS]

◼   ► like you know thought about it and saved [TS]

◼   ► up and finally ordered and track and [TS]

◼   ► receive this thing only to have it then [TS]

◼   ► just be broken like it just it's such a [TS]

◼   ► damper on which should be like the [TS]

◼   ► exciting time that you finally got you [TS]

◼   ► know you you paid for you waited [TS]

◼   ► patiently got it and like I said I as [TS]

◼   ► silly as it is one of the things I was [TS]

◼   ► most excited for what's to say to you [TS]

◼   ► get was to say to the two of you guess [TS]

◼   ► what writing talking you're my new hat [TS]

◼   ► like I said I went out when i was doing [TS]

◼   ► all of this installation i had already [TS]

◼   ► had my mic connected because there's no [TS]

◼   ► reason not to [TS]

◼   ► and then nevermind that time so anyway [TS]

◼   ► we've talked about this far too long we [TS]

◼   ► should probably do some follow-up [TS]

◼   ► especially since we have a fair bit of [TS]

◼   ► it but I appreciate you indulging me and [TS]

◼   ► next week we will have some amount to [TS]

◼   ► follow up either i returned it or maybe [TS]

◼   ► I gotta repaired we'll see what happens [TS]

◼   ► but i wont will follow back up next week [TS]

◼   ► before you move on do you want to [TS]

◼   ► preemptively apologize to Declan for his [TS]

◼   ► bed minecraft 2.3 frame rates [TS]

◼   ► haha well given that he's what 14 and a [TS]

◼   ► half months now I'm not too worried [TS]

◼   ► about I said minecraft 2.3 by the time [TS]

◼   ► he reaches minecraft age you'll still [TS]

◼   ► have that computer he'll be using it and [TS]

◼   ► the new version of Minecraft will [TS]

◼   ► probably not get great frame rates and [TS]

◼   ► they'll ask why and then you'll have to [TS]

◼   ► explain to him daddy didn't want the [TS]

◼   ► good graphics card if you do you really [TS]

◼   ► think that good graphics card make a [TS]

◼   ► difference when he's playing a game on a [TS]

◼   ► seven-year-old computer i think it will [TS]

◼   ► because minecraft like I assume there [TS]

◼   ► will be no minecraft to who knows at [TS]

◼   ► that point in his life but minecraft [TS]

◼   ► does can be surprisingly demanding if [TS]

◼   ► you crank everything up to max on my 5k [TS]

◼   ► iMac which was the best video card that [TS]

◼   ► you can get in that particular machine [TS]

◼   ► you can make it chug occasionally like [TS]

◼   ► it can happen you know obviously he's [TS]

◼   ► not going to have the graphic settings [TS]

◼   ► max but I think even its standard [TS]

◼   ► graphics settings with a reasonable draw [TS]

◼   ► distance by the time he is of age and [TS]

◼   ► minecraft has evolved to have slightly [TS]

◼   ► fancier graphics perhaps it's not gonna [TS]

◼   ► be a great frame rates then it's [TS]

◼   ► someone's going to answer for that and [TS]

◼   ► well I guess I'll explain to if you [TS]

◼   ► don't want to because it's not like [TS]

◼   ► you're gonna get rid of that beautiful [TS]

◼   ► screen that you're going to use that [TS]

◼   ► thing for as the like it'll be a viable [TS]

◼   ► computer for a really long time except [TS]

◼   ► maybe for Minecraft okay first of all I [TS]

◼   ► need to teach you guys about selling [TS]

◼   ► computers while they're still worth [TS]

◼   ► something [TS]

◼   ► second of all second of all I love John [TS]

◼   ► that you that you assume there might not [TS]

◼   ► be a minecraft to I know Microsoft Bob [TS]

◼   ► Dom I understand it's a billion-dollar [TS]

◼   ► business there will definitely be a [TS]

◼   ► minecraft to it might not be good and it [TS]

◼   ► might not be for a while but there will [TS]

◼   ► definitely be a minecraft snow it's [TS]

◼   ► already on the app store to just an ok [TS]

◼   ► right now I mean like for this way if [TS]

◼   ► not still owned it i mean there were [TS]

◼   ► additional should have already been a [TS]

◼   ► minecraft to intrude but there wasn't [TS]

◼   ► because the the company and the person [TS]

◼   ► who owned it just continued to revise [TS]

◼   ► the program and continue to sell you [TS]

◼   ► know the original program now the micro [TS]

◼   ► zones that you're right there will [TS]

◼   ► surely be a minecraft at some point but [TS]

◼   ► i'm not quite sure when that will be [TS]

◼   ► could be borderline [TS]

◼   ► they and I don't know what kind of [TS]

◼   ► priority this for them to get my [TS]

◼   ► together minecraft to out versus just [TS]

◼   ► revising and continue to sell minecraft [TS]

◼   ► and every single new platforms because [TS]

◼   ► they are selling same game over and over [TS]

◼   ► again with selling ps4 the cell wall no [TS]

◼   ► less so now but now this element xbox [TS]

◼   ► one they'll saw the pc version probably [TS]

◼   ► so windows phone version you know the [TS]

◼   ► salt keeps on the iOS version so i don't [TS]

◼   ► know for their there's a burning need to [TS]

◼   ► make a minecraft to before Declan [TS]

◼   ► reaches that age people say we respond [TS]

◼   ► to this week by blue apron helping you [TS]

◼   ► cook better at home to a blue apron calm [TS]

◼   ► / ATP to be your first two meals for [TS]

◼   ► free [TS]

◼   ► look you need to know how to cook not [TS]

◼   ► only should you know your way around the [TS]

◼   ► kitchen but cooking at home it's eating [TS]

◼   ► healthier and saving money instead of [TS]

◼   ► ordering expensive unhealthy takeout [TS]

◼   ► every night but where do you start blue [TS]

◼   ► apron has you covered for less than ten [TS]

◼   ► dollars per meal they deliver all the [TS]

◼   ► fresh ingredients you need to create [TS]

◼   ► home-cooked meals just follow the easy [TS]

◼   ► step-by-step instructions they give you [TS]

◼   ► for each recipe with pictures of every [TS]

◼   ► step right on the recipe cards so you [TS]

◼   ► can see exactly what's supposed to look [TS]

◼   ► like it comes exactly the ingredients [TS]

◼   ► you need there's no like massive amount [TS]

◼   ► of extra like summer but you need to [TS]

◼   ► throw away in a week when it goes when [TS]

◼   ► it was rotten and regardless of your [TS]

◼   ► dietary preferences they have lots of [TS]

◼   ► options they make it a breeze to [TS]

◼   ► discover and prepare dishes right in [TS]

◼   ► your own kitchen so this week they have [TS]

◼   ► things like garganelli pasta and tomato [TS]

◼   ► sauce with fresh mozzarella and arugula [TS]

◼   ► orange salad that's all that's a [TS]

◼   ► mouthful literally texting and buffalo [TS]

◼   ► chicken sandwiches with endive and blue [TS]

◼   ► cheese salad also cook with ingredients [TS]

◼   ► that you've probably never used before [TS]

◼   ► like this week's poblano chili or baby [TS]

◼   ► bok choy or pearl onions now all these [TS]

◼   ► recipes are between 500 and 700 calories [TS]

◼   ► per portion so it's really delicious and [TS]

◼   ► good for you right now you can get your [TS]

◼   ► first two meals for free at blue apron [TS]

◼   ► calm / ATP that's blue apron calm / ATP [TS]

◼   ► blue apron a better way to cook i am [TS]

◼   ► still thinking about that time soup they [TS]

◼   ► had like two months ago [TS]

◼   ► man that was good yet you know it's [TS]

◼   ► funny you bring that up so as part of [TS]

◼   ► blue apron sponsoring us they gave us a [TS]

◼   ► few weeks of free meals and i have been [TS]

◼   ► wanting to try blue apron for the [TS]

◼   ► longest time it took us all of one week [TS]

◼   ► for Aaron and I to look at each other [TS]

◼   ► and say this might be worth it because [TS]

◼   ► this is really really really good [TS]

◼   ► and tonight we had korean and I'm a [TS]

◼   ► butcher this korean t och and spicy pork [TS]

◼   ► ragout and this was one of those things [TS]

◼   ► that it's not totally out of our comfort [TS]

◼   ► zone but not in our comfort zone if that [TS]

◼   ► makes sense and oh man was it really [TS]

◼   ► good [TS]

◼   ► and last week was our first week we had [TS]

◼   ► a few different things they were all [TS]

◼   ► good now I really i'm really loving [TS]

◼   ► brunette blue apron so far and I think [TS]

◼   ► it's a pretty much done deal that Aaron [TS]

◼   ► and I are going to end up signing up and [TS]

◼   ► actually using our own money to pay for [TS]

◼   ► it because it's awesome [TS]

◼   ► Casey we had the same dinner today did [TS]

◼   ► we all that's the likely i have the [TS]

◼   ► exact same thing at the exact same blue [TS]

◼   ► apron meal yeah did you like it I did it [TS]

◼   ► was one of my favorite ones that have [TS]

◼   ► had so far [TS]

◼   ► yes same here like it was one of those [TS]

◼   ► things where we were both like yeah [TS]

◼   ► we'll try it we'll see how it goes and [TS]

◼   ► then Aaron and I looked at each other [TS]

◼   ► after having had a few bright and we [TS]

◼   ► were like wow is this code you like we [TS]

◼   ► didn't expect it [TS]

◼   ► yeah you can i found that have not been [TS]

◼   ► able to predict like ahead of time which [TS]

◼   ► ones are going to like which ones are [TS]

◼   ► not going to mostly because I there you [TS]

◼   ► know there are so very big you really [TS]

◼   ► have no I have no like baseline to say [TS]

◼   ► well i like that i don't know I've never [TS]

◼   ► heard anything like that before and the [TS]

◼   ► other thing I'd add this is getting out [TS]

◼   ► of the everybody into like blue apron [TS]

◼   ► hacks I don't know if this thing that [TS]

◼   ► people do so say you sign up look blue [TS]

◼   ► apron and you do it for a while and it's [TS]

◼   ► like interesting it like one of the [TS]

◼   ► reasons I think you should do it even if [TS]

◼   ► you just do it for a short time is just [TS]

◼   ► to see you try a bunch of different [TS]

◼   ► foods or whatever and they give you like [TS]

◼   ► the given credence and they also give [TS]

◼   ► you like a no its you isn't always one [TS]

◼   ► page market now like a one-page thing on [TS]

◼   ► how to cook it that I've never seen it [TS]

◼   ► be more than one pic it's always but [TS]

◼   ► it's always one sheet of paper with [TS]

◼   ► about eight steps in the back right and [TS]

◼   ► it has the ingredients on the other side [TS]

◼   ► right well the front of it has like a [TS]

◼   ► big picture and a list of ingredients [TS]

◼   ► and the back of it has like like a two [TS]

◼   ► column grid of instructions with photos [TS]

◼   ► of each step right so when you're done [TS]

◼   ► with Ricky instead you decided not to [TS]

◼   ► pay for it anymore [TS]

◼   ► you still have all those recipes so if [TS]

◼   ► you liked one of them in theory you [TS]

◼   ► could go and make it yourself go buy the [TS]

◼   ► ingredients yourself me not going to get [TS]

◼   ► the perfect little portions the blue [TS]

◼   ► apron games you see often just the [TS]

◼   ► amount that maybe you have leftovers and [TS]

◼   ► maybe you will have that [TS]

◼   ► damn you know urban and the refrigerator [TS]

◼   ► but you can make these again yourself [TS]

◼   ► like there's no reason like if you find [TS]

◼   ► one that super favorite just add it to [TS]

◼   ► your collection of things that you [TS]

◼   ► regularly make for yourself [TS]

◼   ► yeah we've only been with blueprints for [TS]

◼   ► only six months now we've been a bit was [TS]

◼   ► long before they were sponsored we've [TS]

◼   ► been using them and we we've been doing [TS]

◼   ► that since the start we've collected all [TS]

◼   ► of our for all the recipes we like we [TS]

◼   ► just have this giant stack of the [TS]

◼   ► typically on a bookshelf [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah yeah and it brought the [TS]

◼   ► problem i had i try want to make the [TS]

◼   ► awesome i think it's like chicken costly [TS]

◼   ► or something i'm sorry i forget i forget [TS]

◼   ► the name of it is but is this awesome [TS]

◼   ► chicken thai soup and I tried to go buy [TS]

◼   ► the ingredients for last week and just [TS]

◼   ► like my store had almost none of them [TS]

◼   ► but the lights i will be using it a long [TS]

◼   ► time and that that should tell you need [TS]

◼   ► to know I mean we keep using it what I [TS]

◼   ► like about it at this is way too long to [TS]

◼   ► respond to read but I'm sorry what I [TS]

◼   ► like about it is that with the reason we [TS]

◼   ► said we did it was that we don't like to [TS]

◼   ► have to think about like what are we [TS]

◼   ► making this week and then plan huge like [TS]

◼   ► that let we lasted like two weeks trying [TS]

◼   ► to do that and every six months we will [TS]

◼   ► try to do that again and we will just [TS]

◼   ► fail so soon afterwards they take all [TS]

◼   ► the decision-making advocates for it [TS]

◼   ► which is really nice when when you just [TS]

◼   ► don't want to have to make all of these [TS]

◼   ► decisions about what are we having every [TS]

◼   ► single night you know so it's really [TS]

◼   ► nice for that chatroom says the recipes [TS]

◼   ► are actually available online for free [TS]

◼   ► blue apron calm / cookbook and also [TS]

◼   ► their logo looks like totoro so there [TS]

◼   ► you go [TS]

◼   ► what market you're a spot right so all [TS]

◼   ► right so we should we we should do some [TS]

◼   ► follow-up and we have a fair bit so [TS]

◼   ► let's buckle up kids let's start with we [TS]

◼   ► talked about flex a little bit last [TS]

◼   ► episode in or maybe the episode 4 but [TS]

◼   ► regardless we got a lot of people [TS]

◼   ► writing in to ask have you tried infused [TS]

◼   ► for the apple TV and we'll have a link [TS]

◼   ► in the show notes the idea within infuse [TS]

◼   ► is that it's somewhat plex like in that [TS]

◼   ► it will autodiscover metadata about your [TS]

◼   ► your media collection so it will show [TS]

◼   ► you your list of movies with with movie [TS]

◼   ► posters and things of that nature but [TS]

◼   ► the real the real kick in the real the [TS]

◼   ► party trick that infuse has from what [TS]

◼   ► I've gathered is that it will actually [TS]

◼   ► do the transcoding on your device so [TS]

◼   ► really there's no [TS]

◼   ► there's no reason that you couldn't just [TS]

◼   ► sit a bunch of files on an undermanned [TS]

◼   ► on a underpowered synology and let [TS]

◼   ► infuse just look at it and then do the [TS]

◼   ► transcoding right on the appletv that is [TS]

◼   ► excellent and it sounds great i haven't [TS]

◼   ► tried it yet but it does sound good [TS]

◼   ► the problem I have with this though is [TS]

◼   ► that it doesn't solve a couple of the [TS]

◼   ► other problems that that I that flex [TS]

◼   ► does pics which is number one it doesn't [TS]

◼   ► give you external access to your media [TS]

◼   ► so one of the greatest pieces of plex is [TS]

◼   ► that you can get to your media from [TS]

◼   ► outside of your home if you set it up [TS]

◼   ► properly and secondly you can't share [TS]

◼   ► other people's libraries so like Marco [TS]

◼   ► and John and I we've all shared our [TS]

◼   ► libraries with each other so that Marco [TS]

◼   ► for example could stream one of the [TS]

◼   ► movies that i have been doing it all [TS]

◼   ► week him from my house to his house [TS]

◼   ► we've been watching through your top [TS]

◼   ► gear well right in the reason that [TS]

◼   ► hasn't worked for the last 24 hours is [TS]

◼   ► because I moved all my plex stuff to the [TS]

◼   ► imac that's now my trunk but anyway so [TS]

◼   ► yeah so it doesn't do that it doesn't do [TS]

◼   ► external access and doesn't sharing yeah [TS]

◼   ► I tried to infuse as soon as people [TS]

◼   ► suggested because i'll jump on top of [TS]

◼   ► anything like as soon as we talked about [TS]

◼   ► i don't know i was like many many shows [TS]

◼   ► are great if used by I immediately [TS]

◼   ► bought the ten-dollar like pro version [TS]

◼   ► whatever yes sure go come right now i'll [TS]

◼   ► give it a dry side on seeing you know [TS]

◼   ► because I got two recommendations from [TS]

◼   ► it from random strangers but the reason [TS]

◼   ► the whole reason i wanted it i'm trying [TS]

◼   ► to support the app economy the whole [TS]

◼   ► reason you're the one i had this file [TS]

◼   ► that i was trying to play that I had to [TS]

◼   ► eventually end up using my eyes when I [TS]

◼   ► use my imac is the flexor for because [TS]

◼   ► the imac is no problem transcoding it [TS]

◼   ► the Plex served from the imac to my [TS]

◼   ► appletv was the only thing that played [TS]

◼   ► this thing with all you know but played [TS]

◼   ► at all period but played smoothly and [TS]

◼   ► everything so i tried to use I mean look [TS]

◼   ► at those and that exact file which turns [TS]

◼   ► out is this is the info from mplayer so [TS]

◼   ► I don't know how to parse it but it's [TS]

◼   ► hevc which i think is h.264 particular [TS]

◼   ► profile 1920 x 1080 so 1080i don't know [TS]

◼   ► what I or pse misspeak it's a video file [TS]

◼   ► 24 frames per second about 1,100 [TS]

◼   ► kilobits per second to track 48 [TS]

◼   ► kilohertz AAC audio [TS]

◼   ► the appletv can't play without [TS]

◼   ► stuttering so it's it's it's the it's in [TS]

◼   ► decoding on the device [TS]

◼   ► you can't handle this so i was sad [TS]

◼   ► because that was the one reason i bought [TS]

◼   ► it but aside from that it's a reasonable [TS]

◼   ► like wait like it Casey said if you have [TS]

◼   ► a whole bunch of folders full of video [TS]

◼   ► files sitting somewhere in your network [TS]

◼   ► this will go through the folders and [TS]

◼   ► play stuff for you and so I'm not sad [TS]

◼   ► that I partners that I am said that [TS]

◼   ► apparently their software combined with [TS]

◼   ► the wimpy eight relatively 28 cpu [TS]

◼   ► system-on-a-chip thing inside my appletv [TS]

◼   ► can't play this fairly demanding file [TS]

◼   ► and i already watched also i watch it on [TS]

◼   ► my iPad by the way what I did was I [TS]

◼   ► wanted to plex and finally I finally had [TS]

◼   ► to give in and say fine flex you can [TS]

◼   ► optimize this Court optimize it by Kyrie [TS]

◼   ► including into a smaller size and then I [TS]

◼   ► watched it on my TV and on my iPad over [TS]

◼   ► the course of a few days is that you [TS]

◼   ► said this was hevc video because that's [TS]

◼   ► h.265 that's kind of a big deal [TS]

◼   ► that's like that's it's very reasonable [TS]

◼   ► to not be strong enough to play that [TS]

◼   ► well that's probably doesn't have it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't have the hardware i was remember [TS]

◼   ► reading about some apple thing that [TS]

◼   ► actually has h.265 hardware but it isn't [TS]

◼   ► actually used but anyway yeah that would [TS]

◼   ► make sense in that like I infused [TS]

◼   ► probably does great because the aid has [TS]

◼   ► dedicated h.264 decode hardware but if [TS]

◼   ► it's not h.264 and instead of h.265 and [TS]

◼   ► is this magic doesn't have hardware for [TS]

◼   ► it or the hardware isn't enabled by [TS]

◼   ► apple's OS then you would have to be [TS]

◼   ► trying to draw on the cpu and I can [TS]

◼   ► understand why would choke to death [TS]

◼   ► yeah I'm i also should point out that [TS]

◼   ► just earlier today I listen to mac power [TS]

◼   ► users episode 2 99 which we will put a [TS]

◼   ► link in the show notes and if you've [TS]

◼   ► ever wanted a unbiased opinion about are [TS]

◼   ► certainly not by me opinion about plex [TS]

◼   ► if you've wondered how to get started [TS]

◼   ► with it if you've wondered what it what [TS]

◼   ► it brings to the table [TS]

◼   ► listen to back our users 299 is really [TS]

◼   ► great episode that goes on to all into [TS]

◼   ► plex [TS]

◼   ► so you should check that out here's one [TS]

◼   ► more drive-by complained about flex [TS]

◼   ► which I cannot believe that they don't [TS]

◼   ► do I just assume they did maybe I'm [TS]

◼   ► and yet so you you have a blog post [TS]

◼   ► where you can link in the show notes [TS]

◼   ► Casey about like introduction to plex [TS]

◼   ► that you did that a while ago like how [TS]

◼   ► to name your files linking to like the [TS]

◼   ► Plex file naming guide and figure out [TS]

◼   ► I'm like and I wondered when i read that [TS]

◼   ► the time like because I wasn't using [TS]

◼   ► flex that much like this seems weird me [TS]

◼   ► why is he doing this just because like [TS]

◼   ► if you want to have everything perfect [TS]

◼   ► just do it this way but like surely [TS]

◼   ► there's a feature in this thing where [TS]

◼   ► you can essentially just find some media [TS]

◼   ► that he didn't either a shrug your [TS]

◼   ► shoulders a tour has misidentified and [TS]

◼   ► say all you got it wrong and go in there [TS]

◼   ► and just type some random words in the [TS]

◼   ► search box until you find the surgeries [TS]

◼   ► all you want to go yes that one so like [TS]

◼   ► say you mislabeled star wars or [TS]

◼   ► something and it is confused about what [TS]

◼   ► it is you know I got well you don't know [TS]

◼   ► what this is because i have the the [TS]

◼   ► files named we're whatever so I'm just [TS]

◼   ► going to go in your search box and type [TS]

◼   ► star wars and see the 8000 results for [TS]

◼   ► star wars and find the one that is not [TS]

◼   ► the special edition but the original [TS]

◼   ► 1977 version just click on that one so [TS]

◼   ► yeah this is that one is that feature [TS]

◼   ► not exist and flex it exists I can't [TS]

◼   ► find it does i can't find it [TS]

◼   ► I could swear it does but I can't walk [TS]

◼   ► you through where it is because my imac [TS]

◼   ► is too much fuckin money maybe I haven't [TS]

◼   ► found it yet but every time I go to edit [TS]

◼   ► the metadata it's like you know if I [TS]

◼   ► name the file then yeah we'll figure it [TS]

◼   ► out if I don't name the file right all i [TS]

◼   ► can do is like a pic cover art to stop [TS]

◼   ► it is totally wrong about the metadata I [TS]

◼   ► can't do a search and say surely the [TS]

◼   ► database that you are using has this [TS]

◼   ► metadata and that you're just not [TS]

◼   ► finding the right one [TS]

◼   ► so rather than me editing the individual [TS]

◼   ► mandate which I don't want to do I just [TS]

◼   ► want to say let me do a search of your [TS]

◼   ► big database cool stuff like a pretty [TS]

◼   ► broad search and let me pick the blob of [TS]

◼   ► metadata that I'm telling you is this [TS]

◼   ► one so that I can manually fix [TS]

◼   ► everything that I had like so that if I [TS]

◼   ► didn't know how to label like some you [TS]

◼   ► know special of a show like a christmas [TS]

◼   ► special the show that's not part of any [TS]

◼   ► particular season I didn't know the [TS]

◼   ► secret season 0 weird you know [TS]

◼   ► convention they have to be like oh well [TS]

◼   ► let me just do a chronological certain [TS]

◼   ► search of the most recent episodes from [TS]

◼   ► this series and i will find whatever [TS]

◼   ► blob of metadata corresponds to this and [TS]

◼   ► then click on it will automatically [TS]

◼   ► label it's like season 0 I would never [TS]

◼   ► figure that out my [TS]

◼   ► anyway we still still working through my [TS]

◼   ► expertise [TS]

◼   ► yeah you know the thing with flexes its [TS]

◼   ► very opinionated about file names and [TS]

◼   ► file conventions but once you understand [TS]

◼   ► its opinions it's actually very simple [TS]

◼   ► to to work with and that's what my blog [TS]

◼   ► post was about i am almost positive the [TS]

◼   ► feature that you're talking about John [TS]

◼   ► about fixing mismatches i'm almost sure [TS]

◼   ► it's there but i don't want to say that [TS]

◼   ► for certainty because i can't try it [TS]

◼   ► right now because again my plex server [TS]

◼   ► is currently in the trunk of my car [TS]

◼   ► yeah i'll keep looking for it but uh the [TS]

◼   ► the thing with the opinionated naming [TS]

◼   ► its opinions are wrong so I refuse to [TS]

◼   ► comply I know the name is he may have [TS]

◼   ► read the documentation but there's no [TS]

◼   ► way in hell I'm putting a year in [TS]

◼   ► parenthesis at the end of my movies or [TS]

◼   ► television shows no and I object to [TS]

◼   ► season 0 I don't like for the record [TS]

◼   ► season 04 for TV shows and specials so [TS]

◼   ► like the top your polar special for [TS]

◼   ► example would be a season 0 entry anyway [TS]

◼   ► uh we have a fair bit of feedback about [TS]

◼   ► Swift and default final and and i'm [TS]

◼   ► stunned I'm flabbergasted [TS]

◼   ► it appears that Marco has done some [TS]

◼   ► homework and put something in the show [TS]

◼   ► notes I flat an email yeah wow yeah i [TS]

◼   ► hit three keys to make this happen [TS]

◼   ► are you okay do you feel right no all [TS]

◼   ► right so this was a feedback from nick [TS]

◼   ► my caucus from a longer email is very [TS]

◼   ► thoughtful memory just a quote here he [TS]

◼   ► says we're talking about Swift basically [TS]

◼   ► having having classes be default final [TS]

◼   ► as as a proposed change the language [TS]

◼   ► during the revolution that's kind of a [TS]

◼   ► debate raging on right now and this [TS]

◼   ► would mean basically that by default [TS]

◼   ► classes could be subclassed that you [TS]

◼   ► could supply seems to exist in the [TS]

◼   ► language but rather but the default [TS]

◼   ► unless the class was specially marked [TS]

◼   ► with whatever keyword would say you know [TS]

◼   ► extensible or whatever that the default [TS]

◼   ► will be u cant some class things so nick [TS]

◼   ► says the late eighties and early [TS]

◼   ► nineties with the heyday for [TS]

◼   ► object-oriented programming language [TS]

◼   ► designed in that time like c++ get to [TS]

◼   ► see in Java it was taken as a given that [TS]

◼   ► subclassing was a good thing and should [TS]

◼   ► be used pervasively however a couple of [TS]

◼   ► decades of experiences with such [TS]

◼   ► languages has led to two key insight i [TS]

◼   ► think we've learned as an industry the [TS]

◼   ► first met in order to write classes that [TS]

◼   ► can be robustly extended through [TS]

◼   ► inheritance allowing both the base and [TS]

◼   ► derived classes to evolve with minimal [TS]

◼   ► risk of breaking each other [TS]

◼   ► see also the fragile base class problem [TS]

◼   ► careful consideration should be given at [TS]

◼   ► the time the classes designed and [TS]

◼   ► written i think this argues for default [TS]

◼   ► close [TS]

◼   ► I think we've learned even more [TS]

◼   ► important lesson though which is the [TS]

◼   ► class inheritance should be thought of [TS]

◼   ► as a limited tool to solve a prescribed [TS]

◼   ► set of problems not a general mechanism [TS]

◼   ► for code reuse so this makes a lot of [TS]

◼   ► sense to me like this i totally agree [TS]

◼   ► with Nick you know I I think I i kinda [TS]

◼   ► breeze by Latin we talked about this [TS]

◼   ► last week a quick statement basically [TS]

◼   ► saying like I think we've seen a lot of [TS]

◼   ► anti-patterns and and dysfunction that [TS]

◼   ► subclassing everywhere can bring and [TS]

◼   ► some of the challenges of bringing some [TS]

◼   ► other i think i agree that that you know [TS]

◼   ► what we've seen is that it basically [TS]

◼   ► shouldn't be the default thats [TS]

◼   ► everywhere and the java people will will [TS]

◼   ► have to find a different way to program [TS]

◼   ► i guess and and they can take it and the [TS]

◼   ► PHP people have to find something to [TS]

◼   ► copy it was actually a pretty pretty old [TS]

◼   ► no-good of wisdom the whole that the the [TS]

◼   ► downsides of subclassing and you can [TS]

◼   ► tell it's old because objective-c is in [TS]

◼   ► many ways a reaction to it objective-c [TS]

◼   ► is like nineteen eighty nine ish like it [TS]

◼   ► is itself a very old language and not [TS]

◼   ► objective c so much more like the [TS]

◼   ► frameworks built on a napkin or whatever [TS]

◼   ► it was called I think maybe was always [TS]

◼   ► called app but anyway the next the next [TS]

◼   ► step frameworks especially the UI [TS]

◼   ► frameworks use delegation a lot a lot [TS]

◼   ► more than contemporary frameworks for [TS]

◼   ► doing similar things that were all about [TS]

◼   ► subclassing they were either you know [TS]

◼   ► functional much because they don't have [TS]

◼   ► object classes at all or they were [TS]

◼   ► enamored of the idea of subclassing but [TS]

◼   ► the next api's and frameworks heavily [TS]

◼   ► used the delegation patterns to avoid [TS]

◼   ► subclassing to say this is a better way [TS]

◼   ► that way we have understandable [TS]

◼   ► individual objects that just use each [TS]

◼   ► other to do things and the way you alter [TS]

◼   ► behavior is by giving it a different [TS]

◼   ► delegate I mean how that's essentially [TS]

◼   ► Marco correct me if I'm wrong [TS]

◼   ► the the next equivalent of like you know [TS]

◼   ► you don't write a main routine there is [TS]

◼   ► a main routine obviously but your app [TS]

◼   ► delegate is basically your application [TS]

◼   ► am I am i correct in my vague [TS]

◼   ► understanding of the cocoa frameworks [TS]

◼   ► yeah you don't subclass your application [TS]

◼   ► like you right you provide a delegate [TS]

◼   ► that conforms to the protocol and you [TS]

◼   ► get messages delivered there [TS]

◼   ► and if you don't pay attention that [TS]

◼   ► blows over time and eventually all of [TS]

◼   ► the code in your app is in the app [TS]

◼   ► delegate well then that's like reading [TS]

◼   ► all your coat and main like a rookie [TS]

◼   ► mistake but yeah but yeah but like so [TS]

◼   ► even even like the the very simplest [TS]

◼   ► starting point of your program is done [TS]

◼   ► through delegation and lots of the UI [TS]

◼   ► frameworks are done through delegation [TS]

◼   ► because and then you know delegation [TS]

◼   ► eventually not not specific delegation [TS]

◼   ► but I trying to avoid inheritance can [TS]

◼   ► lead you to a sort of be the inversion [TS]

◼   ► of control pattern which kind of weird [TS]

◼   ► nasty speaking of java where you're [TS]

◼   ► trying to use composition instead of [TS]

◼   ► inheritance but you want to give people [TS]

◼   ► access to the different pieces they get [TS]

◼   ► composed into the hole and so your [TS]

◼   ► entire program is dictating what things [TS]

◼   ► are composed into what to get your [TS]

◼   ► classes the parts we need to go anyway [TS]

◼   ► any any sort of program code reuse [TS]

◼   ► essentially technology a code reuse [TS]

◼   ► technique whether its inheritance of [TS]

◼   ► delegation or composition or any other [TS]

◼   ► patterns in the little bit pattern books [TS]

◼   ► can go awry but i think pretty early on [TS]

◼   ► in the history of your program the [TS]

◼   ► downsides of inheritance were clear and [TS]

◼   ► anything that came after that sort of [TS]

◼   ► understanding has tried to do something [TS]

◼   ► different including the things that were [TS]

◼   ► the precursors to the frameworks that [TS]

◼   ► apple now uses but we were talking about [TS]

◼   ► in the context of like even a napkin you [TS]