The Accidental Tech Podcast

◼   ► yeah where's John why do we not have [TS]

◼   ► John I'm working on it and I don't can't [TS]

◼   ► go to connect yet might be just you and [TS]

◼   ► me my god can you imagine the internet [TS]

◼   ► revolt that would happen [TS]

◼   ► what do you think they would hate more [TS]

◼   ► two hours of fish or the show without [TS]

◼   ► John probably the show without John I [TS]

◼   ► think they would prefer the two hours of [TS]

◼   ► fish I think your 800 jobs here [TS]

◼   ► oh hi John what would you think people [TS]

◼   ► would dislike more wood people dislike [TS]

◼   ► hearing fish for two hours more than [TS]

◼   ► hearing the show without you or what [TS]

◼   ► people dislike hearing the show without [TS]

◼   ► you and prefer to hear fish for two [TS]

◼   ► hours i think they would prefer to hear [TS]

◼   ► the fish that's exactly what we [TS]

◼   ► concluded that the internet would find [TS]

◼   ► in some smite smoke Marcone I different [TS]

◼   ► if you are not here I think about it I [TS]

◼   ► don't really hear any fish because again [TS]

◼   ► I never listen to the live string but [TS]

◼   ► the few moments I remember hearing and [TS]

◼   ► it's like some terrible rights like this [TS]

◼   ► they play guitars and bass and drums and [TS]

◼   ► you know and then someone says something [TS]

◼   ► for like 22 seconds in the middle and [TS]

◼   ► then if you even if you don't like it's [TS]

◼   ► like you're making people listen to you [TS]

◼   ► know scream music for someone that I [TS]

◼   ► don't know that I think we'll be fine [TS]

◼   ► I mean fit to be fair I think more [TS]

◼   ► people like fish than like us it might [TS]

◼   ► be these people but in total [TS]

◼   ► it is currently the 13th of April it is [TS]

◼   ► a wednesday night we just released this [TS]

◼   ► week's episode or Marco did a few hours [TS]

◼   ► ago but because John is disappearing for [TS]

◼   ► a little bit we are going to be where we [TS]

◼   ► are obviously recording right now so we [TS]

◼   ► expect that Apple by Nintendo on the [TS]

◼   ► fourteenth of april and we won't get a [TS]

◼   ► chance to talk about it until I think [TS]

◼   ► the 22nd which is the next time we'll be [TS]

◼   ► recording so expect all the the juicy [TS]

◼   ► and interesting things to happen over [TS]

◼   ► the next week [TS]

◼   ► you're welcome I mean at least my car [TS]

◼   ► was made obsolete yesterday [TS]

◼   ► that's true actually completely forgot [TS]

◼   ► about that yeah they hit the tussle with [TS]

◼   ► the ugly stick [TS]

◼   ► come at me haters yeah i had i don't i [TS]

◼   ► don't really regret not getting the new [TS]

◼   ► one [TS]

◼   ► you know because like they they [TS]

◼   ► literally used to facelift like [TS]

◼   ► yesterday and my car is something like [TS]

◼   ► two-and-a-half weeks old but the new one [TS]

◼   ► I think overall is probably better you [TS]

◼   ► know that it has better headlights it [TS]

◼   ► has has a center console which I had to [TS]

◼   ► like buy separate third-party center [TS]

◼   ► console shoving their it comes with one [TS]

◼   ► I didn't realize it was third party [TS]

◼   ► that's interesting [TS]

◼   ► yeah well the day they had a first one [TS]

◼   ► there but the reviews are terrible [TS]

◼   ► so they stop selling it so you know it's [TS]

◼   ► there's a couple of minor improvements [TS]

◼   ► but nothing that really makes me unhappy [TS]

◼   ► that i bought you know two-and-a-half [TS]

◼   ► weeks ago [TS]

◼   ► rather than today yeah the the front [TS]

◼   ► kind of grill fascia area just I don't [TS]

◼   ► dig it and a lot of people are coming [TS]

◼   ► after me and you know kind of rightfully [TS]

◼   ► so and say oh well you're just judging [TS]

◼   ► it because it doesn't look like an old [TS]

◼   ► car [TS]

◼   ► look it doesn't look like something that [TS]

◼   ► that blows up old plants and dinosaurs [TS]

◼   ► and you're just being a stupid old man [TS]

◼   ► and yeah you know that might be guilty [TS]

◼   ► as charged and maybe in a few years I [TS]

◼   ► won't need to see a grill up front but [TS]

◼   ► sitting here today I just don't think [TS]

◼   ► it's pretty and somebody had tweeted I [TS]

◼   ► can't recall who was but somebody [TS]

◼   ► tweeted and it's been making the rounds [TS]

◼   ► endlessly the picture of Keanu Reeves as [TS]

◼   ► mr. Anderson and wenwen in the first [TS]

◼   ► movie they his his lips disappear and [TS]

◼   ► his face just is it you know it's all [TS]

◼   ► kind of one big flat area and and it is [TS]

◼   ► a very very similar likeness to the [TS]

◼   ► updated tesla model s and in in the [TS]

◼   ► model 3 as well and the X because like [TS]

◼   ► the Dalai basically this all started [TS]

◼   ► with the ex that's true forgot about [TS]

◼   ► that [TS]

◼   ► I mean ultimately i don't i don't think [TS]

◼   ► it's really going to be that big of a [TS]

◼   ► deal i think it's more just like we are [TS]

◼   ► not used to seeing cars that are [TS]

◼   ► designed this way and that's why it [TS]

◼   ► looks weird because it's unfamiliar but [TS]

◼   ► exactly a few months you know what you [TS]

◼   ► are seeing this on the road and [TS]

◼   ► everything everyone's gonna be like okay [TS]

◼   ► that's just how cars look sometimes no [TS]

◼   ► no that's not it [TS]

◼   ► we talked about this last week just like [TS]

◼   ► you forgot everything we talked about [TS]

◼   ► the problem that the model 3 was the one [TS]

◼   ► where they can whip [TS]

◼   ► sewing shot disappearing matrix thing [TS]

◼   ► was going around because the model 3 [TS]

◼   ► what we've seen of it anyway because he [TS]

◼   ► and who knows what's final but we've [TS]

◼   ► seen the model 3 is there's nothing [TS]

◼   ► there there's no dividing line different [TS]

◼   ► color patch different material it is [TS]

◼   ► just one continuous schnoz and as as we [TS]

◼   ► talked about last week like it's not [TS]

◼   ► it's not so much that uh that we demand [TS]

◼   ► to have a grill right it's that the car [TS]

◼   ► looks like it has a place where grill [TS]

◼   ► should go like the they haven't fully [TS]

◼   ► embraced the idea that they don't need [TS]

◼   ► to pull air into that spot they have [TS]

◼   ► built the car with a spot where grill [TS]

◼   ► would go but just neglected to put that [TS]

◼   ► the same reason to face looks weird with [TS]

◼   ► a big smooth thought where the mouth [TS]

◼   ► should go because we know that's where [TS]

◼   ► the mouth goes if you want to draw [TS]

◼   ► something that doesn't have a mouth [TS]

◼   ► don't draw the place where the mouth [TS]

◼   ► goes and then just erase it right that [TS]

◼   ► the x and the add the US they have a [TS]

◼   ► grill they have a little t-shape thing [TS]

◼   ► which i think is pretty good for Tesla [TS]

◼   ► tu every brand has some sort of like [TS]

◼   ► signature grille shape that they go with [TS]

◼   ► me change it over the years but you know [TS]

◼   ► how he's got that big sort of big mouth [TS]

◼   ► trapezoid thing they go with well it [TS]

◼   ► does look a little bit like a creepy [TS]

◼   ► partial mustache like the skinny stash [TS]

◼   ► you know it looks like it looks a little [TS]

◼   ► like alfa romeo 2likes not like [TS]

◼   ► everybody you know [TS]

◼   ► BMW has the kidneys so that is a pretty [TS]

◼   ► big signature there [TS]

◼   ► what other brands have changed their [TS]

◼   ► shape over the years and sometimes I [TS]

◼   ► stick with it for like three or four [TS]

◼   ► models generations and they go to the [TS]

◼   ► different shape anyway this texting [TS]

◼   ► thing with the little tea with their [TS]

◼   ► actual team logo inside it [TS]

◼   ► that's fine it's kind of like a grill I [TS]

◼   ► have to see this one in person because [TS]

◼   ► from some angles the little little [TS]

◼   ► mustache they have their devices as far [TS]

◼   ► as I'm concerned usually because they [TS]

◼   ► put a place for the grill and they put a [TS]

◼   ► grill and I made that basically is a [TS]

◼   ► girl's not a big grill but at the grill [TS]

◼   ► like why else have a big like opening in [TS]

◼   ► black hair because because other [TS]

◼   ► internal combustion engine guards have [TS]

◼   ► won the model 3 has the same place for [TS]

◼   ► that thing to go but there's nothing [TS]

◼   ► there so it looks weird and like i said [TS]

◼   ► last show if they if they want to go [TS]

◼   ► with the no girl in the front because [TS]

◼   ► they can find go for it embrace it make [TS]

◼   ► it look but make it look like a car that [TS]

◼   ► never had a grill was never intended to [TS]

◼   ► have a grill and the kind of candidate [TS]

◼   ► with my last because they decided with [TS]

◼   ► markers car to put a big giant ball gag [TS]

◼   ► thing there it looks like a big black [TS]

◼   ► grille but it's just a clear plastic [TS]

◼   ► like someone shoved a rubber ball into [TS]

◼   ► the mouth of the car and some more oh [TS]

◼   ► but that but that you know that they [TS]

◼   ► made the decision you can't really [TS]

◼   ► reshape the whole car the other things [TS]

◼   ► the factor is a pedestrian safety and [TS]

◼   ► crash standards probably dictate at the [TS]

◼   ► very least the minimum height of the [TS]

◼   ► front of the car so you can't really go [TS]

◼   ► whole hog into a style that totally [TS]

◼   ► neglects the grill so I'm not entirely [TS]

◼   ► sure what to do to resolve this but I [TS]

◼   ► know the answer is not with the three [TS]

◼   ► did which is make a car with a place for [TS]

◼   ► a grill and just failed to put one there [TS]

◼   ► yeah the side view i'm looking at this [TS]

◼   ► post on Jalopnik will have the show [TS]

◼   ► notes the if you look at it from the [TS]

◼   ► side of the card actually doesn't look [TS]

◼   ► bad at all but any sort of front angle [TS]

◼   ► just looks it's just this this this vast [TS]

◼   ► emptiness and it just i agree with you [TS]

◼   ► John be it looks like a grill belongs [TS]

◼   ► there is an American isn't there and i [TS]

◼   ► think i prefer this to the audi I will [TS]

◼   ► swallow the world grill that's become so [TS]

◼   ► trendy for audi these days which is just [TS]

◼   ► awful or the new Lexus ones too and it [TS]

◼   ► didn't look santoyo you're right and [TS]

◼   ► you're like says the bowtie shape and [TS]

◼   ► it's kind of like a ghost got its that [TS]

◼   ► that's even worse [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's like the entire front of the [TS]

◼   ► car yeah it's so yeah but that's [TS]

◼   ► efficient or inefficient for cool [TS]

◼   ► if they use all that space but you're [TS]

◼   ► talking about you're still saying you [TS]

◼   ► don't like this because KCBS has a girl [TS]

◼   ► like that little mustache [TS]

◼   ► yeah see that's just it doesn't it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't fill the area i see there's a [TS]

◼   ► big expanse under the you feel like a [TS]

◼   ► place where more able to go in there is [TS]

◼   ► exactly and they actually exaggerate [TS]

◼   ► because if you look they actually extend [TS]

◼   ► down like the things around the fog [TS]

◼   ► lamps the material goes down even [TS]

◼   ► farther making room even more room for [TS]

◼   ► the non-existing grill yep exactly i [TS]

◼   ► just don't care for it anyway I'm sure [TS]

◼   ► looks fine and once I see them in person [TS]

◼   ► which you know should be any day now [TS]

◼   ► soon as it's dark silent because they're [TS]

◼   ► all over here to the render judgment of [TS]

◼   ► seeing in person but I think it looks [TS]

◼   ► better than 3 by far [TS]

◼   ► yeah it does look better than the 3i I [TS]

◼   ► think so too and I think of all they're [TS]

◼   ► like including agent if you look at the [TS]

◼   ► x and yes and the three together I think [TS]

◼   ► it looks the best out of all three of [TS]

◼   ► them out of the current the current ones [TS]

◼   ► they're producing although one concern I [TS]

◼   ► have for all three of them is that front [TS]

◼   ► area that is that his body color is it [TS]

◼   ► going to get full of bugs and chips [TS]

◼   ► oh good point you know like I think [TS]

◼   ► that's always the most damaged area of [TS]

◼   ► any car i have because always just [TS]

◼   ► covered just put a bra on it but God [TS]

◼   ► that we started there again [TS]

◼   ► yeah we going back to this God anyway so [TS]

◼   ► i agree i understand that this will [TS]

◼   ► probably at some point [TS]

◼   ► look normal to me but today I don't care [TS]

◼   ► for and I think it looks ugly [TS]

◼   ► alright so let's not talk about Teslas [TS]

◼   ► anymore and let's start to follow up in [TS]

◼   ► our first follow-up items let's talk [TS]

◼   ► about Teslas and chargers and charging [TS]

◼   ► it bite now you're wrong instructions [TS]

◼   ► this is another thing but also that room [TS]

◼   ► was also right about this last show we [TS]

◼   ► just didn't get a chance to pull them i [TS]

◼   ► meant to do it but we had moved on by [TS]

◼   ► that in the discussion about how many [TS]

◼   ► supercharger stations there are verses [TS]

◼   ► how many gas stations and factoring how [TS]

◼   ► long it takes to charge and all the [TS]

◼   ► other infrastructure needed if we were [TS]

◼   ► to convert all the existing cars to [TS]

◼   ► electric with a snap of our fingers and [TS]

◼   ► so on so forth on point we didn't bring [TS]

◼   ► up but again with the chatroom did was [TS]

◼   ► that even though superchargers take a [TS]

◼   ► long time to charge you can get you can [TS]

◼   ► fill up your electric car someplace [TS]

◼   ► other than the quotable gas station in [TS]

◼   ► when you drive it back to your house you [TS]

◼   ► just plug it in and a lot of people were [TS]

◼   ► saying that it is long as you don't [TS]

◼   ► drive more than half the range of your [TS]

◼   ► car per day you never need to go to a [TS]

◼   ► supercharger unless you're going on a [TS]

◼   ► long trip so you need for your [TS]

◼   ► supercharged be just when you go back [TS]

◼   ► home you plug it in and I was thinking [TS]

◼   ► about this when I was discussing the [TS]

◼   ► charges thing last time hand it's kind [TS]

◼   ► of in the middle because I mean all [TS]

◼   ► Marco can tell us but like I recall him [TS]

◼   ► saying somewhere and Twitter that it [TS]

◼   ► takes like three days to charge his car [TS]

◼   ► to full capacity from the plain old wall [TS]

◼   ► outlet [TS]

◼   ► yes so if you have if you only have a [TS]

◼   ► plan a while it's about three days for a [TS]

◼   ► full charge but if you're spending this [TS]

◼   ► much on a car I I don't think it's that [TS]

◼   ► much to ask to spend another few hundred [TS]

◼   ► two at most a couple thousand dollars to [TS]

◼   ► do whatever it takes to get a [TS]

◼   ► high-powered outlet in your garage if [TS]

◼   ► you have a 50-amp outlet the name of [TS]

◼   ► 40-50 that Tesla recommends that charges [TS]

◼   ► the entire car in something like seven [TS]

◼   ► hours depending on how big a battery you [TS]

◼   ► have so if you're buying a 70 or 80,000 [TS]

◼   ► 35,000 the car maybe but as these things [TS]

◼   ► come down in price like basically i [TS]

◼   ► would say if you're asking people to [TS]

◼   ► change their home in some way they [TS]

◼   ► basically become like a little charging [TS]

◼   ► station like that's part of the [TS]

◼   ► infrastructure part of the [TS]

◼   ► infrastructure you don't have to build [TS]

◼   ► gas stations but every single person [TS]

◼   ► when these cars has to always have a [TS]

◼   ► dryer outlet in their garage or by one [TS]

◼   ► of the big super tired things whatever [TS]

◼   ► just fine like you said four people [TS]

◼   ► model SN the model 3 [TS]

◼   ► well not every person like you know [TS]

◼   ► underscore friends pretty smooth he is [TS]

◼   ► still seen he bought the car like in [TS]

◼   ► December he's still just only has the [TS]

◼   ► the regular outlet and he just he drives [TS]

◼   ► a few enough miles on it doesn't really [TS]

◼   ► matter [TS]

◼   ► this is taking a trip which case using [TS]

◼   ► superchargers so and right now I still [TS]

◼   ► have that too because electricians in [TS]

◼   ► New York take a while to get back to you [TS]

◼   ► so I still have the plane out as well [TS]

◼   ► and so far it's been totally fine [TS]

◼   ► because I just I'm not driving hundreds [TS]

◼   ► of miles a day it would only be a [TS]

◼   ► problem i was driving like you know a [TS]

◼   ► hundred or more miles a day [TS]

◼   ► so what I'm getting at is like that it's [TS]

◼   ► not that math is not as long as you [TS]

◼   ► drive half the range it's more like if [TS]

◼   ► you drive a third of the range or [TS]

◼   ► whatever and the other thing is that [TS]

◼   ► since these are the first round of like [TS]

◼   ► minimally Viable electric cars to [TS]

◼   ► compete with gas cars that have the same [TS]

◼   ► range as a as a long-range gas car but [TS]

◼   ► they're close enough that you know that [TS]

◼   ► it's fine right [TS]

◼   ► this is not like the leaf where it's in [TS]

◼   ► need to be a very short-range car i [TS]

◼   ► would assume that the capacity of [TS]

◼   ► electric cars will go up as batteries [TS]

◼   ► become cheaper not maybe not that much [TS]

◼   ► maybe they'll stop around a 300-mile [TS]

◼   ► range like an easy 300-mile range for [TS]

◼   ► everybody and so that will just only add [TS]

◼   ► to charge in time so it seems like some [TS]

◼   ► necessary part of the infrastructure of [TS]

◼   ► the electric car world is every home to [TS]

◼   ► have a little bit better charging [TS]

◼   ► battery doesn't mean you need to have a [TS]

◼   ► big supercharger or the [TS]

◼   ► three-thousand-dollar thing or whatever [TS]

◼   ► probably just actually dryer outlet and [TS]

◼   ► since most people i would imagine go [TS]

◼   ► away less than a third of the range of [TS]

◼   ► their electric car or even a quarter of [TS]

◼   ► the range of electric car they'll [TS]

◼   ► probably find that will definitely save [TS]

◼   ► on the supercharger the number of [TS]

◼   ► superchargers needed the flip side of [TS]

◼   ► that though is the places that need [TS]

◼   ► superchargers are going to need a lot of [TS]

◼   ► them so along Interstate 90 where [TS]

◼   ► there's nobody else in the entire world [TS]

◼   ► everybody stopping somewhere along [TS]

◼   ► Interstate not even if they're all the [TS]

◼   ► cars were electric no one is going [TS]

◼   ► across New York State you know you got [TS]

◼   ► stopped for gas somewhere if you're [TS]

◼   ► going from like you know Boston to [TS]

◼   ► buffalo or something and it's just a [TS]

◼   ► giant corridor of a bunch of cars that [TS]

◼   ► need to do that and they're used to [TS]

◼   ► pulling off one of the service station [TS]

◼   ► is getting guess you know and then just [TS]

◼   ► continuing on and if it takes you even [TS]

◼   ► just 15 minutes that's gonna you know [TS]

◼   ► you're gonna have big backups and snarls [TS]

◼   ► as you can tell if anything it all goes [TS]

◼   ► wrong at any of the total stations along [TS]

◼   ► the way that you could sit in traffic [TS]

◼   ► for hours and hours so it seems like [TS]

◼   ► superchargers we're going to be [TS]

◼   ► concentrated along the major [TS]

◼   ► thoroughfares and then in suburban areas [TS]

◼   ► maybe you can have one that covers a [TS]

◼   ► tremendous area because only people are [TS]

◼   ► passing through needed everyone else [TS]

◼   ► discharges of their house also i think [TS]

◼   ► another another major problem to tackle [TS]

◼   ► is that if you don't have a house with a [TS]

◼   ► garage or a permanent parking spot and a [TS]

◼   ► driveway [TS]

◼   ► it's kind of impractical to have an [TS]

◼   ► electric car because you have like a not [TS]

◼   ► so many people live in apartments or in [TS]

◼   ► play in you know street parking only [TS]

◼   ► areas where you're parking your car in [TS]

◼   ► the street overnight you don't have a [TS]

◼   ► driver you don't you don't have a garage [TS]

◼   ► how do you charge you know on our [TS]

◼   ► regular basis out there that's that's [TS]

◼   ► trickier to solve I think that inductive [TS]

◼   ► charging mat to drive your car over the [TS]

◼   ► top of it [TS]

◼   ► those exist you never know I know [TS]

◼   ► they'll just put them on those put them [TS]

◼   ► on the road when they're putting a [TS]

◼   ► little sense for this automated cars all [TS]

◼   ► the chargers at every stoplight [TS]

◼   ► yeah why not [TS]

◼   ► Marco what's the nearest supercharger to [TS]

◼   ► you in terms of distance how I don't [TS]

◼   ► know I mean there's one in newburgh but [TS]

◼   ► that's which is pretty far I mean it's [TS]

◼   ► not like you know what direction I'm [TS]

◼   ► headed is the more relevant question I'm [TS]

◼   ► going upstate the closest one is nubert [TS]

◼   ► which is something like a half-hour up [TS]

◼   ► for an hour up from going you know into [TS]

◼   ► Pennsylvania New Jersey area that I'm [TS]

◼   ► sure it's a different one from going [TS]

◼   ► through Connecticut there's I think [TS]

◼   ► there's proof there's a couple over [TS]

◼   ► there so depending on where i'm going [TS]

◼   ► really yeah the reason I'm asking is [TS]

◼   ► like I see there's one in Greenwich [TS]

◼   ► Connecticut which looks to my I like [TS]

◼   ► it's pretty close to you yes very close [TS]

◼   ► there's one in paramus new jersey which [TS]

◼   ► also looks fairly low so it looks like [TS]

◼   ► ranch is probably closer it is i'm in [TS]

◼   ► any way the what I'm driving at though [TS]

◼   ► is let's suppose for the sake of [TS]

◼   ► discussion that you don't ever do [TS]

◼   ► anything to the home and you only have a [TS]

◼   ► regular outlet in you you would have to [TS]

◼   ► charge of the span of three days in a [TS]

◼   ► desperation scenario you could drive [TS]

◼   ► what to my eye looks like half an hour [TS]

◼   ► last to say greenwich and you could use [TS]

◼   ► the supercharger there and drive back in [TS]

◼   ► that that's what like probably 20-30 [TS]

◼   ► miles maybe maybe a little more maybe a [TS]

◼   ► little less and that would in a pinch [TS]

◼   ► solve the problem as long as you had an [TS]

◼   ► hour to spare right to go charge i [TS]

◼   ► always have an hour for graphics have [TS]

◼   ► amazing watch stores therein a good [TS]

◼   ► lunch place how's the chicken salad but [TS]

◼   ► you haven't had that you had better not [TS]

◼   ► let anybody see what I'm driving at is [TS]

◼   ► the main video that many times [TS]

◼   ► maybe you can maybe you can avoid doing [TS]

◼   ► the home modification until the next [TS]

◼   ► time you do you know demo on the house [TS]

◼   ► which for you seems to be a every couple [TS]

◼   ► years [TS]

◼   ► yeah it out you know I one of the [TS]

◼   ► situations like underwear [TS]

◼   ► my-my circuit breaker panel is full and [TS]

◼   ► so the electrician's quoting me a couple [TS]

◼   ► thousand dollars to to do like AI don't [TS]

◼   ► need a panel okay but I need a sub panel [TS]

◼   ► and then once you throw in the cost of [TS]

◼   ► all the local permits and everything [TS]

◼   ► else all fees for the town and [TS]

◼   ► everything it's probably going to be [TS]

◼   ► maybe two or three thousand dollars and [TS]

◼   ► ended that does make you positive mode [TS]

◼   ► isn't really am I really ever going to [TS]

◼   ► need that necessarily compared to the [TS]

◼   ► regular Alan and I might not when it's [TS]

◼   ► interesting you know I I find this all [TS]

◼   ► fascinating i don't suspect that i'm [TS]

◼   ► going to have an electric car anytime [TS]

◼   ► soon [TS]

◼   ► not necessarily from lack of desire but [TS]

◼   ► because those that are available [TS]

◼   ► today don't really do it for me or are [TS]

◼   ► absorbent Lee expensive or are the model [TS]

◼   ► 3 that that even if I reserve one now I [TS]

◼   ► won't get in till declan's graduating [TS]

◼   ► college so I don't suspect i'm gonna get [TS]

◼   ► a an electric car anytime soon but i'm [TS]

◼   ► fascinated by all the differences in the [TS]

◼   ► different thoughts and concerns and [TS]

◼   ► worries that one has like should I [TS]

◼   ► modify my home in order to support [TS]

◼   ► charging this quicker that it's so [TS]

◼   ► different than what I'm used to thinking [TS]

◼   ► about night I just find it very [TS]

◼   ► interesting I mean and in all fairness [TS]

◼   ► the modification to your home if your [TS]

◼   ► home is at all modern or new or has [TS]

◼   ► modern electric service in it is usually [TS]

◼   ► very minimal it's usually a couple [TS]

◼   ► hundred dollars to have an electrician [TS]

◼   ► install a high power outlet usually [TS]

◼   ► really close to where breaker was anyway [TS]

◼   ► because so many breakers are in garages [TS]

◼   ► so it's you know for for most homes out [TS]

◼   ► there in the country that are fairly [TS]

◼   ► young [TS]

◼   ► I think you I think it would be a very [TS]

◼   ► inexpensive modification and most people [TS]

◼   ► i don't think really think too much [TS]

◼   ► about it [TS]

◼   ► yeah alright moving on well sort of [TS]

◼   ► moving on [TS]

◼   ► John you want to tell us about this next [TS]

◼   ► item yes bhai primary look up what sa [TS]

◼   ► stands for but one of you and or the [TS]

◼   ► chat room will do that while I'm [TS]

◼   ► addressing one last point of the [TS]

◼   ► superchargers also brought up by the [TS]

◼   ► chatroom also related to sae which is [TS]

◼   ► connected standards tehsils apparently [TS]

◼   ► got its own connector let's go like the [TS]

◼   ► two little visibility shape and i think [TS]

◼   ► i remember that like kind of a branding [TS]

◼   ► theme but anyway I think there's four [TS]

◼   ► pins in there maybe Society of [TS]

◼   ► Automotive Engineers SI stands for they [TS]

◼   ► have a standard connector for electric [TS]

◼   ► cars which is not the same as the Tesla [TS]

◼   ► connector so I mean we'll see how this [TS]

◼   ► works out in terms of you know adapters [TS]

◼   ► don't seem like it's rocket science if [TS]

◼   ► you have any kind of station that can [TS]

◼   ► provide electricity to cars obviously [TS]

◼   ► testing has its own brand of [TS]

◼   ► supercharger stations they don't care if [TS]

◼   ► you can charge anyone elses car there I [TS]

◼   ► think but they see no reason why they [TS]

◼   ► couldn't I feel like that will work [TS]

◼   ► itself out if it turns out the Tesla [TS]

◼   ► built a million supercharger stations [TS]

◼   ► before anybody build anything guess what [TS]

◼   ► the standard connector is tesla's not [TS]

◼   ► this as a standard but speaking as a [TS]

◼   ► standards as a has a standard [TS]

◼   ► measurement system for self-driving cars [TS]

◼   ► which why wouldn't because they're [TS]

◼   ► sitting around all day trying all the [TS]

◼   ► standard Google self-driving cars but we [TS]

◼   ► can make up standards for things don't [TS]

◼   ► exist so they did [TS]

◼   ► zero it goes from 0 to 50 is no [TS]

◼   ► automation and five is full automation [TS]

◼   ► and they divided into two regions of [TS]

◼   ► three each because they start from zero [TS]

◼   ► because the program is 0 1 and 2 is [TS]

◼   ► human driver monitors driving gateway [TS]

◼   ► basically and there needs to be a human [TS]

◼   ► driver and they need to monitor [TS]

◼   ► everything and three four and five is [TS]

◼   ► automated driving system monitors [TS]

◼   ► driving environment didn't read this [TS]

◼   ► entire PDF so I'm not quite sure they [TS]

◼   ► break it down much farther but again my [TS]

◼   ► criteria is do i need to know how to [TS]

◼   ► drive a car to get into this car guess [TS]

◼   ► you can do it simpler as do i get sit in [TS]

◼   ► the backseat because I falls down to the [TS]

◼   ► same thing if you get to sit at the back [TS]

◼   ► seat and no one is in the front seat [TS]

◼   ► that's complete self driving car right [TS]

◼   ► right can I fall asleep if you have to [TS]

◼   ► sit in the front seat and have to know [TS]

◼   ► how to drive a car because you may be [TS]

◼   ► called upon to do so you're still in the [TS]

◼   ► lower range that's that's really the [TS]

◼   ► battery that I care but it's good this [TS]

◼   ► the Society of Automotive Engineers has [TS]

◼   ► decided to come up with a scale for this [TS]

◼   ► and I wonder where they would I mean I [TS]

◼   ► guess I guess I your Tesla's onto which [TS]

◼   ► they call partial automation like no [TS]

◼   ► automation driver assistance partial [TS]

◼   ► automation conditional automation hi [TS]

◼   ► automation four-dimensional standards [TS]

◼   ► bodies is there anything you can [TS]

◼   ► standardize apparently anyway be [TS]

◼   ► watching for sae numbers to be quoted on [TS]

◼   ► your cars just like the sae engine power [TS]

◼   ► ratings that no-one rates except you [TS]

◼   ► mmm alright John do you think and in [TS]

◼   ► this is robin malhotra that's asked [TS]

◼   ► asked us this do you think john that [TS]

◼   ► Apple's new file system or truly [TS]

◼   ► autonomous vehicles will come first [TS]

◼   ► truly autonomous according to my [TS]

◼   ► definition just laid out as and you can [TS]

◼   ► sit in the backseat and don't have to [TS]

◼   ► drive apples file system will come first [TS]

◼   ► easily i tend to agree but you never [TS]

◼   ► really know all right Cameron palm and [TS]

◼   ► has written in and made some interesting [TS]

◼   ► points about the Amazon echo and and [TS]

◼   ► amazon in general he or she has said [TS]

◼   ► well I'm sure Amazon echo and ash [TS]

◼   ► buttons are interesting products are a [TS]

◼   ► couple of key issues number-one amazon [TS]

◼   ► is a us thing it works the US because of [TS]

◼   ► cheap shipping it doesn't work / exist [TS]

◼   ► in most of the world including including [TS]

◼   ► Europe not in the US cents the echo is [TS]

◼   ► also only available in American [TS]

◼   ► wish Cirie on the other hand and here [TS]

◼   ► she provides a link is available in many [TS]

◼   ► many many places and there's a link that [TS]

◼   ► will put the show notes for future [TS]

◼   ► availability for Siri this happens a lot [TS]

◼   ► when we bring up things I figured maybe [TS]

◼   ► netflix was another one a lot of things [TS]

◼   ► that we don't realize our us-centric or [TS]

◼   ► us only [TS]

◼   ► so if there are other people listening [TS]

◼   ► in the US and who are just thinking [TS]

◼   ► amazon everyone has amazon right [TS]

◼   ► apparently allow the stuff amazon does [TS]

◼   ► is really confined to the u.s. in ways [TS]

◼   ► that you would wouldn't imagine it would [TS]

◼   ► be like is there anything specific about [TS]

◼   ► the echo that has to be so us seems like [TS]

◼   ► they can make one for other kinds of [TS]

◼   ► other countries right maybe they just [TS]

◼   ► don't have enough server farms over [TS]

◼   ► there that have the expertise to do the [TS]

◼   ► the translation and the detection [TS]

◼   ► different language was either way it's [TS]

◼   ► always seemed kinda weird to me that [TS]

◼   ► such a big company like Amazon seems to [TS]

◼   ► have such grand ambitions with the whole [TS]

◼   ► you know easy to and s3 and selling [TS]

◼   ► things all over the world that mean I [TS]

◼   ► can understand maybe not being able to [TS]

◼   ► sell physical goods all over the world [TS]

◼   ► but for all their electronic products [TS]

◼   ► and network services they should expand [TS]

◼   ► more well and I think this is a I think [TS]

◼   ► what we're seeing here a strategy tax at [TS]

◼   ► amazon which is the the echo does lots [TS]

◼   ► of things that don't use their services [TS]

◼   ► their their storefronts at all and don't [TS]

◼   ► depend on the store friends at all but [TS]

◼   ► one of the main reasons that all amazon [TS]

◼   ► hardware exists is to get you to to buy [TS]

◼   ► more content or media or stuff from [TS]

◼   ► Amazon and so I bet they don't want to [TS]

◼   ► even bother supporting it in countries [TS]

◼   ► and languages where they they also don't [TS]

◼   ► have widespread store coverage for their [TS]

◼   ► stores and Amazon is historically [TS]

◼   ► notoriously us-centric in their [TS]

◼   ► storefronts so that's that's probably [TS]

◼   ► the reason the main reason why is that [TS]

◼   ► had the echo couldn't do like half the [TS]

◼   ► things that amazon wants it to be doing [TS]

◼   ► no maybe about like you have to just [TS]

◼   ► think like long-term let everybody was [TS]

◼   ► like an Amazon is such a long-term [TS]

◼   ► thinking company meaning that they see I [TS]

◼   ► was making spaceships and stuff so long [TS]

◼   ► term if you are a China if you're not [TS]

◼   ► selling in China you've got a big [TS]

◼   ► problem because China has a lot of an [TS]

◼   ► Indian but i'm not trying to India guess [TS]

◼   ► what they have a lot of people and those [TS]

◼   ► people are in many cases crawling up [TS]

◼   ► into the [TS]

◼   ► the income class where they can buy your [TS]

◼   ► products like that those countries are [TS]

◼   ► not developing countries they're like [TS]

◼   ► developed like you know they're entering [TS]

◼   ► the middle class type of thing they're [TS]

◼   ► ready to buy expensive for most [TS]

◼   ► electronics right and it's happening [TS]

◼   ► faster and faster like if you no matter [TS]

◼   ► how I put it this way if you know even [TS]

◼   ► have amazon gets one hundred percent of [TS]

◼   ► the market for physical goods in the [TS]

◼   ► United States if you just fast-forward [TS]

◼   ► enough years the whoever gets a hundred [TS]

◼   ► percent of the market in China India is [TS]

◼   ► going to gobble them up because having a [TS]

◼   ► hundred percent of the u.s. is [TS]

◼   ► meaningless when when they get billions [TS]

◼   ► of people in Asia [TS]

◼   ► yep alright who wants to talk about [TS]

◼   ► ubiquity zeit port power over ethernet [TS]

◼   ► switch probably Margo our first sponsor [TS]

◼   ► this week we're really going to switch [TS]

◼   ► but I am briefly God sponsor you find [TS]

◼   ► our first sponsor this week is net.com [TS]

◼   ► this is a new sponsor its net and I am i [TS]

◼   ► pronouncing that right mah man me I've [TS]

◼   ► never actually said this word yet you [TS]

◼   ► have to sound more apathetic me you got [TS]

◼   ► it that's better that's better so many [TS]

◼   ► dot-com that these are the people long [TS]

◼   ► ago they found a site called woot.com [TS]

◼   ► and what was like a one thing a day [TS]

◼   ► daily deal kind of sight and the things [TS]

◼   ► were like things that appeal to geeks [TS]

◼   ► so it was you know a cheap crappy little [TS]

◼   ► hard like whatever I was saying last [TS]

◼   ► week and the week before like just being [TS]

◼   ► blown away by how cheap hardware is [TS]

◼   ► these days and it especially cost [TS]

◼   ► nothing if you get it from place like [TS]

◼   ► math day so what they do is one deal a [TS]

◼   ► day and this is how Amazon wounded so [TS]

◼   ► amazon bought woot forever ago the team [TS]

◼   ► behind it the founders behind it [TS]

◼   ► eventually got fed up because Amazon was [TS]

◼   ► ruining it [TS]

◼   ► they were there like made instead of [TS]

◼   ► being one deal a day it would be [TS]

◼   ► oh now there's a whole bunch of deals [TS]

◼   ► until it's kind of just amazon at that [TS]

◼   ► point I kind of lost its personality and [TS]

◼   ► kind of also made a special so they were [TS]

◼   ► all happy with this they just left and [TS]

◼   ► they went and founded a company called [TS]

◼   ► mediocre labs which I love and they made [TS]

◼   ► this site called net and i love the [TS]

◼   ► attitude at this site if you read their [TS]

◼   ► copy this is like the best copywriting [TS]

◼   ► for trying to just barely sell a product [TS]

◼   ► for this ad there's no coupon code [TS]

◼   ► there's no tracking URL i was given no [TS]

◼   ► script they just said just wing it [TS]

◼   ► if you see this [TS]

◼   ► monster daring fireball a lot you can [TS]

◼   ► almost barely tell that they're [TS]

◼   ► sponsoring like that the way they want [TS]

◼   ► it was supposed to be written like it [TS]

◼   ► almost seems like wait who's the sponsor [TS]

◼   ► you do they like hide the link they do [TS]

◼   ► they do like fun kind of like working [TS]

◼   ► stuff like that because this is [TS]

◼   ► obviously like laid-back people who know [TS]

◼   ► that they are selling really cheap [TS]

◼   ► hardware and it's like surprisingly [TS]

◼   ► cheap so today that the one there today [TS]

◼   ► is it looks kind of like an Apple watch [TS]

◼   ► shape but it's actually a speaker that [TS]

◼   ► goes on your wrist it looks it's like [TS]

◼   ► who would wear this and they even say [TS]

◼   ► like who would wear this and it's eight [TS]

◼   ► dollars and that's it and it changes [TS]

◼   ► everyday changes at midnight at once the [TS]

◼   ► things sell out there is gone that's it [TS]

◼   ► there's no like advanced notice of like [TS]

◼   ► eight tomorrow we're gonna have a [TS]

◼   ► Chromebook or whatever and sometimes [TS]

◼   ► they you know so they have all this like [TS]

◼   ► awesome like cheap crappy hardware that [TS]

◼   ► you can't believe it's that cheap and it [TS]

◼   ► has anything that works and they also [TS]

◼   ► sometimes have good stuff like they that [TS]

◼   ► they had last week they had a really [TS]

◼   ► impressive home theater receiver that [TS]

◼   ► those 3d sandwich I don't know the thing [TS]

◼   ► until I read their site they had apple [TS]

◼   ► watch on there before the apple watch [TS]

◼   ► sport on there a few weeks back a few [TS]

◼   ► months back [TS]

◼   ► they have some really nice stuff as well [TS]

◼   ► I love their copywriting more than [TS]

◼   ► anything else i love how they sell these [TS]

◼   ► products just barely the attitude is [TS]

◼   ► hilarious [TS]

◼   ► it's that you can like sign up to become [TS]

◼   ► a special member which is the very [TS]

◼   ► mediocre person VMP and VIP has all [TS]

◼   ► sorts of little benefit you can get here [TS]

◼   ► check it out its mat.com neh dot-com man [TS]

◼   ► that's that's pretty much spot on [TS]

◼   ► ok but i feel like i need more facial [TS]

◼   ► hair to say it correctly [TS]

◼   ► no you just need a lot of indifference a [TS]

◼   ► just you need to be overflowing with [TS]

◼   ► indifference it's this is a hard every [TS]

◼   ► to do is you supposed to sound [TS]

◼   ► enthusiastic about the spots [TS]

◼   ► it's not this time I i love i love the [TS]

◼   ► way these people do business so check it [TS]

◼   ► out [TS]

◼   ► netcom thanks for sponsoring me there we [TS]

◼   ► go that's how I supposed to say it so [TS]

◼   ► why don't we talk about this [TS]

◼   ► 8-port power over ethernet switch ion [TS]

◼   ► right edge of my seat i'm so excited but [TS]

◼   ► last week I was talking about me trying [TS]

◼   ► to find just a simple eight parts which [TS]

◼   ► that has no fantasy island is reliable [TS]

◼   ► and you know just sits there i did my [TS]

◼   ► other required by the way is that the [TS]

◼   ► power and the ports be on the same side [TS]

◼   ► just because of the way i have these [TS]

◼   ► very switches arranged it's kind of [TS]

◼   ► annoying to have the kind that are meant [TS]

◼   ► to be in Iraq where the ports on the [TS]

◼   ► front but the power comes in the back [TS]

◼   ► because that's just not a good [TS]

◼   ► arrangement for things that are sitting [TS]

◼   ► on the edge of a table or something [TS]

◼   ► anyway and Mark out brought up in like [TS]

◼   ► to his a the PHP thing that he likes and [TS]

◼   ► actually have I say the bookmark about [TS]

◼   ► next time anybody going to give that one [TS]

◼   ► to try i still have a couple of extras [TS]

◼   ► at home and waiting for them to die once [TS]

◼   ► they die i'll try that one also if you [TS]

◼   ► just need one big one I actually used I [TS]

◼   ► forgot to mention i actually use a [TS]

◼   ► rackmount HP switch in my garage that [TS]

◼   ► has it because that 18 we had a big [TS]

◼   ► renovations done I i had the house wired [TS]

◼   ► for ethernet so I have something like 12 [TS]

◼   ► or 1215 ports that i'll go into this big [TS]

◼   ► HP I think it's an 18-10 something like [TS]

◼   ► that so that's probably something that [TS]

◼   ► some kind of get gigabit HP semi managed [TS]

◼   ► or unmanaged switch it was a couple [TS]

◼   ► hundred dollars and that's also been [TS]

◼   ► rock solid I've never liked rebooted [TS]

◼   ► that never had a port die never had any [TS]

◼   ► problems whatsoever [TS]

◼   ► yeah if I had in my garage in the [TS]

◼   ► basement or someplace like that i would [TS]

◼   ► just get a big rack mount one just put [TS]

◼   ► it where the heck I wanted into care as [TS]

◼   ► long as it was reliable but [TS]

◼   ► unfortunately do the way I have the [TS]

◼   ► wires running i have lots of these [TS]

◼   ► little ones around having a poor one on [TS]

◼   ► my TV have any port one of the computer [TS]

◼   ► room everyday part one next to mine ass [TS]

◼   ► and stuff downstairs and so this is a [TS]

◼   ► bunch of these little ones many of which [TS]

◼   ► are in spaces where people have to be so [TS]

◼   ► i have to be quiet so the HP one its [TS]

◼   ► fanless if it's reliable and i'll give [TS]

◼   ► it a try that sounds good but I was [TS]

◼   ► surprised that marker didn't suggest [TS]

◼   ► ubiquity because we talk about ubiquity [TS]

◼   ► harbor last week and you're saying how [TS]

◼   ► much you love do they make an eight port [TS]

◼   ► switch to in our technical actually [TS]

◼   ► reviewed it recently and it looks weird [TS]

◼   ► an enterprising and ubiquity and stuff [TS]

◼   ► like that but like a well it's solid and [TS]

◼   ► reliable is exactly what you're looking [TS]

◼   ► for right this is a family's one there [TS]

◼   ► 8.1 doesn't have any fans in it [TS]

◼   ► I has a bunch of fancy features that I'm [TS]

◼   ► not interested in like the you know all [TS]

◼   ► these things they can do with [TS]

◼   ► traffic shaping and you know management [TS]

◼   ► and all sorts of other stuff but of [TS]

◼   ► course it's two hundred dollars so I I [TS]

◼   ► pretty much know that once I saw the [TS]

◼   ► price not completely unwilling to pay a [TS]

◼   ► lot of casino most of the time was like [TS]

◼   ► all right well if this is a good one and [TS]

◼   ► it's reliable pay money but just it's [TS]

◼   ► just so much more than like the 50 bucks [TS]

◼   ► and used to think and I was like well [TS]

◼   ► you get fined fifty dollar switches [TS]

◼   ► you're gonna get a crappy one and [TS]

◼   ► they're gonna make noise and go dead or [TS]

◼   ► whatever but the thing is I had these [TS]

◼   ► dealing switches that were attractive [TS]

◼   ► and reliable for a really long time like [TS]

◼   ► six years seven years maybe it's gonna [TS]

◼   ► be longer that's at least eight years [TS]

◼   ► that's all making mac is and I think [TS]

◼   ► happened before that how I just want [TS]

◼   ► that again [TS]

◼   ► you know maybe i just got lucky and [TS]

◼   ► found like it but I think about like $35 [TS]

◼   ► like eight years ago I just want that [TS]

◼   ► again eight years of hard dollars is [TS]

◼   ► much better than you know how long would [TS]

◼   ► it 200 daughter thing need to ask anyway [TS]

◼   ► i think i am not in the market for these [TS]

◼   ► ubiquitous witches but who knows maybe [TS]

◼   ► I'll get burned by enough three boxes [TS]

◼   ► that i will regret not buying this fancy [TS]

◼   ► managed a port switch from the fancy [TS]

◼   ► Marco brand [TS]

◼   ► yeah and also you know a little more [TS]

◼   ► following ubiquity before we leave so we [TS]

◼   ► start getting email about it apparently [TS]

◼   ► ubiquity also sells IP cameras and and I [TS]

◼   ► did look very briefly into those but [TS]

◼   ► amazon didn't talk a lot of them looks [TS]

◼   ► like they're transition model into a new [TS]

◼   ► model that's like out of stock [TS]

◼   ► everywhere right now so I kind of [TS]

◼   ► dismissed it so that's why I look into [TS]

◼   ► that they're also a little more money [TS]

◼   ► and also a few people rode in to say [TS]

◼   ► that they also now have I was talking [TS]

◼   ► last week about how there's this [TS]

◼   ► annoying java 8 wireless access point [TS]

◼   ► based controller software that you need [TS]

◼   ► if you have certain advanced features [TS]

◼   ► enabled which I don't know you also [TS]

◼   ► needed for initial setup of any any of [TS]

◼   ► their wireless access points and it [TS]

◼   ► turns out that they also sell this [TS]

◼   ► little kind of like one of those like in [TS]

◼   ► tell us if you look like a USB stick [TS]

◼   ► with actually a whole mini computer in [TS]

◼   ► there and I'm talking about little of [TS]

◼   ► the the Knux isn't but whatever those [TS]

◼   ► are they sell something that looks just [TS]

◼   ► like that and it runs their software in [TS]

◼   ► little like mini computer thing so you [TS]

◼   ► don't need to run it on one of your real [TS]

◼   ► computers if you don't want to [TS]

◼   ► but those things are also sold out [TS]

◼   ► everywhere but when they're installed [TS]

◼   ► supposed to only be like 70 or 80 box so [TS]

◼   ► you can pay 70 or 80 bucks to avoid [TS]

◼   ► installing java somewhere which I would [TS]

◼   ► probably do and what was the name of [TS]

◼   ► that product do you remember i have no [TS]

◼   ► idea it but it doesn't matter because of [TS]

◼   ► that stuff everywhere its ubiquitous is [TS]

◼   ► like it's like some kind of like Cloud [TS]

◼   ► Controller or something like that [TS]

◼   ► interesting alright your bakery makes [TS]

◼   ► routers and Wi-Fi access points and IP [TS]

◼   ► cameras and switches they also make long [TS]

◼   ► range Wi-Fi antenna so I give you if you [TS]

◼   ► want to like be my Wi-Fi from one [TS]

◼   ► building to a whole different building [TS]

◼   ► that might be far away they make a whole [TS]

◼   ► bunch of stuff to do that also cost [TS]

◼   ► suspiciously little but everyone says [TS]

◼   ► works very well like this company is [TS]

◼   ► everywhere [TS]

◼   ► yeah well I i think that you know it [TS]

◼   ► turns out there's a pretty big business [TS]

◼   ► in taking something that's controlled by [TS]

◼   ► a very small number of very high margin [TS]

◼   ► companies and doing the same thing for a [TS]

◼   ► lot of money [TS]

◼   ► I'm glad Casey's got my job yeah I'm [TS]

◼   ► here for you [TS]

◼   ► thank you alright so right after we [TS]

◼   ► recorded the last episode smile software [TS]

◼   ► ended I smile now changing changing [TS]

◼   ► oh it's just my ok changing some of the [TS]

◼   ► stuff about the new pricing for text [TS]

◼   ► text expander what it basically amounted [TS]

◼   ► to was well most of the things are the [TS]

◼   ► same we're gonna give you a little bit [TS]

◼   ► of a discount if you already a customer [TS]

◼   ► and will keep the old thing around for [TS]

◼   ► some undetermined amount of time is that [TS]

◼   ► a relatively fair summary [TS]

◼   ► well i think the most important thing is [TS]

◼   ► that they did something because that was [TS]

◼   ► we're talking about last year like oh [TS]

◼   ► let's see what they did let's think [TS]

◼   ► maybe they meant this may be the man [TS]

◼   ► that Bob it's like all right well we see [TS]

◼   ► what their their announcement x minus 6 [TS]

◼   ► is doing to the market now we wait to [TS]

◼   ► see is this what they wanted to do [TS]

◼   ► because a lot of the discussion last [TS]

◼   ► shot was like well this is what they did [TS]

◼   ► and it doesn't seem crazy to expect to [TS]

◼   ► have these results come out of it surely [TS]

◼   ► they must have thought of this but on [TS]

◼   ► the other hand maybe they've made a huge [TS]

◼   ► mistake and we'll find out if they do [TS]

◼   ► anything about it like oh no hear your [TS]

◼   ► feedback we're gonna end this is [TS]

◼   ► something we did it was faster than i [TS]

◼   ► ever thought they would so it's so clear [TS]

◼   ► that whatever it is they thought they [TS]

◼   ► were doing they did not expect there [TS]

◼   ► action they got because that was like [TS]

◼   ► two days everything else in one day it [TS]

◼   ► was very quickly afterwards they have a [TS]

◼   ► supposed to says no no are we heard your [TS]

◼   ► feedback bottle blonde now we come to [TS]

◼   ► the announcement did they hear people's [TS]

◼   ► feedback [TS]

◼   ► yeah it is what they've done actually [TS]

◼   ► addressing people's concerns and [TS]

◼   ► Thailand Marcos is a pretty strong [TS]

◼   ► opinion that they're not addressing the [TS]

◼   ► concerns really but well it's you know I [TS]

◼   ► mean honestly I I don't care that [TS]

◼   ► strongly about this topic in general [TS]

◼   ► because of this i'm not really expand [TS]

◼   ► our user and also i am a developer who [TS]

◼   ► saw something that subscription priced [TS]

◼   ► and so I I do sympathize with their [TS]

◼   ► economic needs here [TS]

◼   ► however you know that what they [TS]

◼   ► announced is basically that you know [TS]

◼   ► they they move this product that was a a [TS]

◼   ► traditionally sold like you pay 40 or [TS]

◼   ► something dollars for this product [TS]

◼   ► everything we do a major upgrade you [TS]

◼   ► might get upgrade discount whatever but [TS]

◼   ► for the most part it's like you pay a [TS]

◼   ► decent amount upfront and then you can [TS]

◼   ► use it as long as you want any make new [TS]

◼   ► ones every couple years or every year [TS]

◼   ► you can choose upgrade or not and they [TS]

◼   ► moved it from that model too [TS]

◼   ► it's now a web service with a required [TS]

◼   ► five-dollar month subscription with [TS]

◼   ► these clients that are now free and so [TS]

◼   ► the people people who use it wherever [TS]

◼   ► very angry for basically two main [TS]

◼   ► reasons number one as we discussed last [TS]

◼   ► episode a lot of people just don't like [TS]

◼   ► subscription pricing especially for [TS]

◼   ► things that they don't expect it on or [TS]

◼   ► that they don't see the value in whether [TS]

◼   ► it's there [TS]

◼   ► you know it's what people expect for [TS]

◼   ► pricing models whether in a like I don't [TS]

◼   ► want to pay per month for like a USB hub [TS]

◼   ► it's just a USB hub it does its job [TS]

◼   ► right why should we pay per month for [TS]

◼   ► that and some people use offer that way [TS]

◼   ► even though kind of isn't and practice [TS]

◼   ► but anyway so there's that complaint and [TS]

◼   ► if you have that complaint the the new [TS]

◼   ► announcement which is basically we're [TS]

◼   ► dropping the price on the subscription [TS]

◼   ► for people who had the old version and [TS]

◼   ► we're going to keep the old version [TS]

◼   ► updated for unspecified amount of time [TS]

◼   ► and so if you had the objection that [TS]

◼   ► this thing should not be subscription [TS]

◼   ► priced period [TS]

◼   ► this will not affect you at all you will [TS]

◼   ► still be upset about this if you had the [TS]

◼   ► opinion that well I'm upset about this [TS]

◼   ► not because it's such [TS]

◼   ► caption priced but because i will end up [TS]

◼   ► paying a lot more than i did before then [TS]

◼   ► this will probably make you happy [TS]

◼   ► because now it has removed i think most [TS]

◼   ► or all of that complaint i haven't done [TS]

◼   ► all the numbers but it's something like [TS]

◼   ► that you know i think you'll end up [TS]

◼   ► paying roughly the same that you're [TS]

◼   ► paying before if you have created a few [TS]

◼   ► years so it will address some of the [TS]

◼   ► complaints and the ones that were [TS]

◼   ► primarily about just like total price [TS]

◼   ► over time but it will not address the [TS]

◼   ► people who are really upset that they [TS]

◼   ► are moving to this model and also they [TS]

◼   ► may also have another problem where the [TS]

◼   ► they removed their sync features because [TS]

◼   ► one of the ways of justifying the new [TS]

◼   ► subscription service is you can now sync [TS]

◼   ► through their web service make you have [TS]

◼   ► to think through the web service before [TS]

◼   ► text expander which works by having full [TS]

◼   ► keyboard access so we can read every [TS]

◼   ► keystroke it has to read every keystroke [TS]

◼   ► you're typing so it is functionally a [TS]

◼   ► keylogger and before it didn't need [TS]

◼   ► internet access because before it [TS]

◼   ► supported sink through lots of different [TS]

◼   ► means basically like it would store its [TS]

◼   ► data in a file somewhere and you could [TS]

◼   ► say that file through many different [TS]

◼   ► means i think dropbox was probably most [TS]

◼   ► common when people use from people who I [TS]

◼   ► know who used it so before this [TS]

◼   ► keylogger effectively didn't need [TS]

◼   ► network access now it does and so [TS]

◼   ► there's also the concerns about it you [TS]

◼   ► know the security around this it's kind [TS]

◼   ► of tricky to combine something that has [TS]

◼   ► full keylogging access with something [TS]

◼   ► that has a network connection to [TS]

◼   ► third-party servers that you don't [TS]

◼   ► control and then there's a question [TS]

◼   ► around whether they are encrypting the [TS]

◼   ► snippets that you are storing their and [TS]

◼   ► of course the answer i'm pretty sure the [TS]

◼   ► answer was is there not but there's rely [TS]

◼   ► on the other security measures around [TS]

◼   ► just like your login stuff to to protect [TS]

◼   ► them so there's a whole bunch of [TS]

◼   ► concerns here that people had a whole [TS]

◼   ► bunch of objections that people had this [TS]

◼   ► new model and they have addressed one of [TS]

◼   ► them which is the total price over time [TS]

◼   ► but that's all they've address so far [TS]

◼   ► what about text and the 5 there-there [TS]

◼   ► change on that so that we will continue [TS]

◼   ► this from the press we will continue to [TS]

◼   ► sell and support text expander 540 s10 [TS]

◼   ► and Texas bender 3 + custom keyboard for [TS]

◼   ► iOS for those who need it and they don't [TS]

◼   ► don't have any time scales will continue [TS]

◼   ► to sound support continued for [TS]

◼   ► how long forever a year a month a week [TS]

◼   ► five days when if Texas better five is [TS]

◼   ► not compatible for the next version of [TS]

◼   ► OS 10 will be updated so many questions [TS]

◼   ► that I again I have to think they know [TS]

◼   ► these questions like they've been [TS]

◼   ► getting tons of feedbacks huge number of [TS]

◼   ► those questions must have said how long [TS]

◼   ► was ex-offender five be supported will [TS]

◼   ► you updated how long time you know how [TS]

◼   ► long will your old versions that didn't [TS]

◼   ► do the subscription pricing how long [TS]

◼   ► will they be supported will you continue [TS]

◼   ► to update them and they just didn't [TS]

◼   ► answer it at all and you have to think [TS]

◼   ► it's because they think people won't [TS]

◼   ► like the answer not because I didn't [TS]

◼   ► occur to us to address that question [TS]

◼   ► because they must have got that question [TS]

◼   ► thousands of times already [TS]

◼   ► yeah because the answer is you know if [TS]

◼   ► you think about it just think about it [TS]

◼   ► and everybody they're not trying to be [TS]

◼   ► like greedy or evil or anything they [TS]

◼   ► can't support an old version of this app [TS]

◼   ► forever [TS]

◼   ► there's going to be on an infinite time [TS]

◼   ► scale there's going to be an end to the [TS]

◼   ► support for this version of this app so [TS]

◼   ► and you know when are they going to do [TS]

◼   ► that they what they've said in this post [TS]

◼   ► it really just I think honestly makes [TS]

◼   ► the problem it worse because it implies [TS]

◼   ► that this will be supported indefinitely [TS]

◼   ► but you know in practice there's going [TS]

◼   ► to be an end and I don't think we or [TS]

◼   ► they know when that end will be yet but [TS]

◼   ► I think they're creating unmaintained [TS]

◼   ► able expectation here [TS]

◼   ► yeah like whatever they've lifted a [TS]

◼   ► naive person reading this that someone's [TS]

◼   ► going to read we will continue to sell [TS]

◼   ► and support to expand five like oh i'm [TS]

◼   ► so satisfied this press release made me [TS]

◼   ► feel so much better thank you smile we [TS]

◼   ► love you right [TS]

◼   ► but what they have in their head is and [TS]

◼   ► help continue to use text and the 5 [TS]

◼   ► forever like and eventually texts aspect [TS]

◼   ► Texas matter five will not work and [TS]

◼   ► they're going to be so angry then was [TS]

◼   ► gonna be like but you put out this press [TS]

◼   ► release that said you will continue to [TS]

◼   ► sell support x-men five and that's gonna [TS]

◼   ► be like well we continue to support x [TS]

◼   ► better five but unfortunately text [TS]

◼   ► identified as a product is only [TS]

◼   ► compatible version is XYZ and Bob lot [TS]

◼   ► alike but you said and like people [TS]

◼   ► aren't reading like lawyers and I [TS]

◼   ► reading for the nuance they're not and [TS]

◼   ► they don't know like why should you [TS]

◼   ► expect customer to understand what is [TS]

◼   ► involved in maintaining an application [TS]

◼   ► across the multiple releases of various [TS]

◼   ► OS it's like there is something [TS]

◼   ► especially for like a system I utility [TS]

◼   ► like Texas matter whether it's on iOS [TS]

◼   ► rs10 there's always going to be stuff [TS]

◼   ► you have to do to maintain it is not as [TS]

◼   ► simple as a just and [TS]

◼   ► an application that you just run it and [TS]

◼   ► then it went to you and that needs to be [TS]

◼   ► maintained so I know they're setting [TS]

◼   ► themselves up for failure but like I [TS]

◼   ► think about how much do I think they're [TS]

◼   ► gonna start texas-pan five well they [TS]

◼   ► don't want to support two different [TS]

◼   ► versions of their product like who would [TS]

◼   ► want like the whole point of that you [TS]

◼   ► did they want to have sustainable [TS]

◼   ► development description pricing you [TS]

◼   ► can't say okay now we're gonna have two [TS]

◼   ► teams one that's just maintaining the [TS]

◼   ► old versions and one to maintain the new [TS]

◼   ► version nobody wants to do that so my [TS]

◼   ► gut reaction is someone who's seen a lot [TS]

◼   ► of software is the Texas manner five [TS]

◼   ► minute and take span 23 for iOS they'll [TS]

◼   ► probably work with this version of [TS]

◼   ► austin and the next in this version of [TS]

◼   ► iOS and the next version probably but [TS]

◼   ► when they break i don't think the smile [TS]

◼   ► will invest in my fixing them because [TS]

◼   ► they'll be like look you had your time [TS]

◼   ► now it's time to move on to the other [TS]

◼   ► one took to whatever six or seven or [TS]

◼   ► wherever the now right and in smiles [TS]

◼   ► defense you know I that this is while I [TS]

◼   ► I don't want to like gang up on them or [TS]

◼   ► or be you know or attribute to malice to [TS]

◼   ► them but there are these problems with [TS]

◼   ► every way you choose to take money you [TS]

◼   ► know if they continue doing the old way [TS]

◼   ► of here's a paid app you buy it once and [TS]

◼   ► then in a couple years you might buy an [TS]

◼   ► upgrade that method also has to cut off [TS]

◼   ► support for old versions eventually and [TS]

◼   ► when that happens that also angers [TS]

◼   ► people and so no matter what you do no [TS]

◼   ► matter what you choose to take money it [TS]

◼   ► will anger somebody and it and you know [TS]

◼   ► a lot of somebodies if you're if you [TS]

◼   ► have a good customer base you know if [TS]

◼   ► you have a good-sized customer base it's [TS]

◼   ► going to anger a lot of people [TS]

◼   ► regardless of what you do if you don't [TS]

◼   ► charge for anything that'll anger people [TS]

◼   ► who are afraid that you're going to sell [TS]

◼   ► their data if you put ads in their [TS]

◼   ► cattle anger people who don't like ads [TS]

◼   ► who or doing what they're doing [TS]

◼   ► no matter what you do you're going to [TS]

◼   ► anger people i don't envy the position [TS]

◼   ► that smiles in here because what they're [TS]

◼   ► clearly saying if not you know directly [TS]

◼   ► than employing what they're clearly [TS]

◼   ► saying is we need to get more money from [TS]

◼   ► text expander like whatever this isn't [TS]

◼   ► working for us we need more revenue from [TS]

◼   ► it somehow and the way we're gonna do [TS]

◼   ► that is going to have the short-term [TS]

◼   ► pain for somebody and it seems like [TS]

◼   ► they're trying to address people's [TS]

◼   ► concerns but ultimately they're not [TS]

◼   ► they're not able to they can't because [TS]

◼   ► they have to make money somewhere so [TS]

◼   ► like there's always gonna be people who [TS]

◼   ► are mad about this and they're going to [TS]

◼   ► have to [TS]

◼   ► choose to make some of the mad i think [TS]

◼   ► the only two good options here are [TS]

◼   ► either that they continue doing the [TS]

◼   ► subscription model which honestly I I [TS]

◼   ► don't think it's a good idea [TS]

◼   ► it seems deeply flawed for the kind of [TS]

◼   ► product is the kind of audience that it [TS]

◼   ► had that as far as i know but again I'm [TS]

◼   ► not them i don't i don't know who your [TS]

◼   ► customers are so i could be wrong [TS]

◼   ► so that's one option is to just go whole [TS]

◼   ► hog industry in the subscription the way [TS]

◼   ► they were before and just be honest like [TS]

◼   ► look you know support 45 will end after [TS]

◼   ► next OS version or something like that [TS]

◼   ► now you set a date or Senate version [TS]

◼   ► will just say are able to stop after [TS]

◼   ► this and then you're on your own and you [TS]

◼   ► gotta move to our service now or not or [TS]

◼   ► completely bring back the old model of [TS]

◼   ► Licensing what you know whether they [TS]

◼   ► continuing the subscription model also [TS]

◼   ► or not I don't know but you know the the [TS]

◼   ► alternative here is you bring back the [TS]

◼   ► old model we're ok now you know [TS]

◼   ► TextExpander six is a regular software [TS]

◼   ► release that you can buy for 40 bucks or [TS]

◼   ► whatever and you can own it but no [TS]

◼   ► monthly fees after that for you know [TS]

◼   ► until you decide to stop using it until [TS]

◼   ► it breaks with some distant future [TS]

◼   ► Western version i don't see another [TS]

◼   ► option here like what what they're doing [TS]

◼   ► now is trying to bridge the benefits of [TS]

◼   ► both are trying to please people who [TS]

◼   ► want both without giving up their [TS]

◼   ► subscription idea and and because you [TS]

◼   ► know this is obviously like they've [TS]

◼   ► obviously invested a lot into setting [TS]

◼   ► this up migrating product over to this [TS]

◼   ► kind of system somebody's using it so if [TS]

◼   ► they kill this description service now [TS]

◼   ► they're going to anger the people who [TS]

◼   ► are using it and who do like it so like [TS]

◼   ► it this is not an imposition to be it [TS]

◼   ► and I I don't want I don't want to make [TS]

◼   ► light of this because it's like this is [TS]

◼   ► this is all hard stuff and in the [TS]

◼   ► current software landscape it is [TS]

◼   ► incredibly difficult to make a healthy [TS]

◼   ► profit selling software today it's just [TS]

◼   ► hard and and they have a staff they have [TS]

◼   ► to support and you know what you can [TS]

◼   ► argue [TS]

◼   ► oh well maybe maybe software should be [TS]

◼   ► free or there's a lot of competition or [TS]

◼   ► maybe they should lower their costs [TS]

◼   ► whatever but none of those things are [TS]

◼   ► easy things to address or easy things to [TS]

◼   ► actually follow through on and often [TS]

◼   ► have uncomfortable side effects so if [TS]

◼   ► this is not you know that like that the [TS]

◼   ► solution might [TS]

◼   ► just be like it's kind of like when the [TS]

◼   ► minimum wage goes up [TS]

◼   ► yeah I'm sorry for going political here [TS]

◼   ► God when the minimum wage goes up one of [TS]

◼   ► the problems that the economist site [TS]

◼   ► when that happens is it basically prices [TS]

◼   ► out a whole bunch of jobs from being [TS]

◼   ► doable because like will now like if the [TS]

◼   ► minimum i have to pay legal full-time [TS]

◼   ► employee is your legal employees x then [TS]

◼   ► any job that is that cost less than X [TS]

◼   ► just kinda I can't just can't pay [TS]

◼   ► somebody to do that really or any job is [TS]

◼   ► only worth you know something below [TS]

◼   ► decks that kind of problem happens now [TS]

◼   ► with software which is like a lot of [TS]

◼   ► software that could be created and that [TS]

◼   ► could have value to people just is not [TS]

◼   ► going to do well enough in the market or [TS]

◼   ► people won't pay enough for it for it to [TS]

◼   ► be sustained [TS]

◼   ► so a lot of that software just won't get [TS]

◼   ► created or only creating an abandoned so [TS]

◼   ► there's all sorts of like you know [TS]

◼   ► economic uncomfortable truths about this [TS]

◼   ► we would however however you think about [TS]

◼   ► software pricing however you think [TS]

◼   ► things should be priced or however [TS]

◼   ► whatever you're willing to pay for them [TS]

◼   ► it's it's a very tricky area and I don't [TS]

◼   ► envy smile at all for the position [TS]

◼   ► they're in right now [TS]

◼   ► yeah I certainly don't either yeah like [TS]

◼   ► i kind of think like Adobe when they [TS]

◼   ► went through a similar transition of [TS]

◼   ► like a man i think it was making plenty [TS]

◼   ► of money but this is you know what we [TS]

◼   ► think it would be better for us [TS]

◼   ► financially if we could if you could pay [TS]

◼   ► for applications on a subscription basis [TS]

◼   ► rather than selling your box with [TS]

◼   ► software in it or selling your download [TS]

◼   ► whatever into the most part they made a [TS]

◼   ► transition to that Microsoft is going to [TS]

◼   ► the same thing now trying to sell office [TS]

◼   ► 365 subscriptions and everything like [TS]

◼   ► that smile obviously is much smaller [TS]

◼   ► than Dobie or Microsoft look like it was [TS]

◼   ► trying to make a similar transition and [TS]

◼   ► it's almost it's almost like I feel like [TS]

◼   ► ripping off the bandaid and just plowing [TS]

◼   ► bravely forward certainly from the [TS]

◼   ► outside that would be a cleaner [TS]

◼   ► situation but from the inside maybe like [TS]

◼   ► that wasn't even an option that we would [TS]

◼   ► have died the product would not be [TS]

◼   ► viable [TS]

◼   ► we tried it it's not working too many [TS]

◼   ► people angry we're not selling enough [TS]

◼   ► subscriptions we have to immediately do [TS]

◼   ► an about-face and so I guess you know [TS]

◼   ► better now than six months from now or [TS]

◼   ► whatever but anyway this is surely not [TS]

◼   ► the way they hope this transition would [TS]

◼   ► go and i think their attempt to [TS]

◼   ► you to fix it with the discount and the [TS]

◼   ► vague promise of support for the old [TS]

◼   ► versions i don't know if it makes it [TS]

◼   ► worse but boy I like yeah I don't know [TS]

◼   ► if it gives them a higher chance of [TS]

◼   ► success either like I I just feel like [TS]

◼   ► they're saying that the only does [TS]

◼   ► deferred the anger to to a later period [TS]

◼   ► yeah the discount i think i think is is [TS]

◼   ► probably fine because that's I think [TS]

◼   ► this kind is actually like maybe the [TS]

◼   ► mistake they just made was making a [TS]

◼   ► subscription price too high that they [TS]

◼   ► could that could have been something [TS]

◼   ► they decided to offer getting all angry [TS]

◼   ► feedback when that sign of descriptions [TS]

◼   ► again i'm speculating here maybe the [TS]

◼   ► price is just too high [TS]

◼   ► like if you told people they could use [TS]

◼   ► text and you get it for free and you [TS]

◼   ► have to pay a penny a month everyone's [TS]

◼   ► fine with that suddenly it's not the [TS]

◼   ► suddenly is not some sort of [TS]

◼   ► philosophical objection to subscription [TS]

◼   ► pricing i don't want to pay a penny [TS]

◼   ► months too much know everybody's fine [TS]

◼   ► with that it's below their level of [TS]

◼   ► concern right but five dollars a month [TS]

◼   ► or whatever it is was above people seem [TS]

◼   ► so the fifty percent discount for life [TS]

◼   ► if that brings it down below people [TS]

◼   ► threshold then we'll see like Marco said [TS]

◼   ► they really object philosophically to [TS]

◼   ► subscriptions period or was he merely [TS]

◼   ► the price is too high the promise to [TS]

◼   ► text expander is like and also we're not [TS]

◼   ► even really sure the subscription think [TS]

◼   ► it's a good idea so you can have this [TS]

◼   ► thing for some undefined period of time [TS]

◼   ► but probably it will go away but you [TS]

◼   ► probably don't know that and just makes [TS]

◼   ► me depressed but you know I was anyway [TS]

◼   ► we'll see how it works out for them like [TS]

◼   ► Microsoft is difficult but the final [TS]

◼   ► part is you can somehow can't get your [TS]

◼   ► way out of a press release without [TS]

◼   ► something terrible appearing and I feel [TS]

◼   ► like it's I don't i'm not a PR person I [TS]

◼   ► don't know how to do BR person's job i'm [TS]

◼   ► not going to say that i could have [TS]

◼   ► written this better but as someone who [TS]

◼   ► reads a lot of press releases reading [TS]

◼   ► this does not make me feel better about [TS]

◼   ► the company and I imagine that's what [TS]

◼   ► press releases are supposed to do the [TS]

◼   ► last part of it was this supposed to be [TS]

◼   ► like you know person-to-person like have [TS]

◼   ► empathy for us and so forth [TS]

◼   ► this was a big change their number of [TS]

◼   ► things we could have done better alright [TS]

◼   ► that sounds like the start of a [TS]

◼   ► paragraph where they're saying basically [TS]

◼   ► like acknowledging ok are bad you know [TS]

◼   ► that you are angry at us and we have to [TS]

◼   ► at this point acknowledge that you are [TS]

◼   ► angry at us with reasons there are [TS]

◼   ► things that didn't turn out the way we [TS]

◼   ► wanted them to you know we're sorry your [TS]

◼   ► mad [TS]

◼   ► we acknowledge your anger like that [TS]

◼   ► right seems like it's going to find so [TS]

◼   ► far we genuinely want to bring you the [TS]

◼   ► best text and experience you can [TS]

◼   ► unfortunately not all the accents had [TS]

◼   ► the intended effect still so so good so [TS]

◼   ► far [TS]

◼   ► for example comma we staggered our [TS]

◼   ► customer emails or three days to ensure [TS]

◼   ► smooth server capacity so that everyone [TS]

◼   ► would have a good initial experience [TS]

◼   ► with the service this ever held up but [TS]

◼   ► many customers learned of the new text [TS]

◼   ► expander from news sites Twitter or [TS]

◼   ► Twitter rather than from smile that is [TS]

◼   ► not an example of the of the bad things [TS]

◼   ► that people are yelling at you about [TS]

◼   ► like because they found out the news [TS]

◼   ► from a site other than you as if somehow [TS]

◼   ► they found out from you they would have [TS]

◼   ► choked it down and it would have been [TS]

◼   ► more palatable they're angry about what [TS]

◼   ► happened [TS]

◼   ► finding out what happened from news [TS]

◼   ► sites rather different you physical part [TS]

◼   ► of that may be like why do I gotta hear [TS]

◼   ► this on Twitter instead of from you [TS]

◼   ► directly smile but subsequently if [TS]

◼   ► you're going to pick the thing that [TS]

◼   ► people are angry about [TS]

◼   ► that's not it this whole press release [TS]

◼   ► was addressing the issues none of which [TS]

◼   ► were I found out about this from Twitter [TS]

◼   ► instead of smile don't in your press [TS]

◼   ► release like that it's like it's like [TS]

◼   ► you know what is your greatest weakness [TS]

◼   ► so I'm little bit I'm assess a hard [TS]

◼   ► worker sometimes are better [TS]

◼   ► ok it's not they were they were so close [TS]

◼   ► they're right there but it's for example [TS]

◼   ► and the example they gave is not what [TS]

◼   ► people are angry it's not even like the [TS]

◼   ► top three that people are angry about so [TS]

◼   ► close [TS]

◼   ► yeah I'm feeling the story is not over [TS]

◼   ► yeah we've heard you and actually it's [TS]

◼   ► going to be twenty-five percent of the [TS]

◼   ► original price for life and Texas better [TS]

◼   ► five will be supported indefinitely and [TS]

◼   ► we're canceling text finder six but wait [TS]

◼   ► we heard you Texas better 6 users you [TS]

◼   ► want to keep all right I get them i get [TS]

◼   ► 1 yeah you know they're they're allowed [TS]

◼   ► to you try something doesn't work you [TS]

◼   ► react fast good if they come back again [TS]

◼   ► with another press release and then [TS]

◼   ► we're just going to have dedicated [TS]

◼   ► texture podcast is alright well we have [TS]

◼   ► one more quick piece of follow-up and [TS]

◼   ► then we can move on to some other stuff [TS]

◼   ► these were the topics in they were [TS]

◼   ► working with a great yeah it's not gray [TS]

◼   ► area text matters follow-up so is Apple [TS]

◼   ► yeah fair enough John you finally got [TS]

◼   ► your way she got your bleeps and bloops [TS]

◼   ► and how's that going [TS]

◼   ► not my wish I wanted believes in the [TS]

◼   ► theme song that we had in one episode [TS]

◼   ► way back when [TS]

◼   ► but Marco took it upon itself to add [TS]

◼   ► believes in glutes before and after the [TS]

◼   ► ads I think because he listened to much [TS]

◼   ► hello internet or some other reason [TS]

◼   ► anyway we've gotten a lot of feedback [TS]

◼   ► about that and I thought Marco should [TS]

◼   ► explain what he's doing and why we've [TS]

◼   ► got like three people who don't like [TS]

◼   ► it's yeah it's more than that but man [TS]

◼   ► people who don't like it i mean i can [TS]

◼   ► say the sky is blue and people and more [TS]

◼   ► people will tell me i'm an idiot and [TS]

◼   ► wrong then what we've heard about this [TS]

◼   ► well that's also true well people don't [TS]

◼   ► like change so that's obvious right but [TS]

◼   ► I want more interested in is why did you [TS]

◼   ► add them not why do people not like them [TS]

◼   ► but why did you add them sure [TS]

◼   ► so first of all you can quibble over the [TS]

◼   ► choice of sounds that the I i chose old [TS]

◼   ► Max and I wanted to do the windows XP [TS]

◼   ► USB device plugged in and unplugged [TS]

◼   ► sounds but I knew John would not allow [TS]

◼   ► that that that's correct John I don't [TS]

◼   ► even know that sound but no that would [TS]

◼   ► be thinking about you do you do now [TS]

◼   ► known as it anyway so that's what I [TS]

◼   ► wanted to do and I knew John but would [TS]

◼   ► object so I i chose old Mac sounds [TS]

◼   ► instead that kind of just that the [TS]

◼   ► actual origins of them are kinda funny [TS]

◼   ► one of them's a crash one of them to [TS]

◼   ► reboot of some old max I didn't pick [TS]

◼   ► based on what computers they belong to [TS]

◼   ► specifically in the old Apple lineup i [TS]

◼   ► just picked based on which ones I [TS]

◼   ► thought sounded right for this purpose i [TS]

◼   ► was think about using using something [TS]

◼   ► like this for awhile because it allows [TS]

◼   ► me a lot more flexibility and editing of [TS]

◼   ► when i start the ad and when I end the [TS]

◼   ► ad it also saves time in the episode [TS]

◼   ► because it removes all the transition [TS]

◼   ► lead-in from like Casey saying all right [TS]

◼   ► before we cover this market large tell [TS]

◼   ► me something that's awesome you know [TS]

◼   ► something like that like it [TS]

◼   ► it removes the need for a lot of that so [TS]

◼   ► it does save time I think and it's also [TS]

◼   ► just gives me the flexibility to place [TS]

◼   ► the ads wherever I want to really like [TS]

◼   ► whenever wherever there's a natural [TS]

◼   ► break in conversation even if we didn't [TS]

◼   ► say at that point in the show [TS]

◼   ► alright let's do a sponsor break now so [TS]