174: A Ding in the Room
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is there where's there a good summary of
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what the hell happened in the keynote
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i'm on in your notes damage on I didn't
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take good notes what do you want from me
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you guys are the best so we are here
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live in California almost on vacation we
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are in my hotel room
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so any weird audio things that might or
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might not be here that's a the parc 55
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fault definitely not ours and so we just
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got out of the state of the union and so
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I guess there's a lot to cover here I
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don't know how much we're going to today
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because we have a bit of a time limit
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let's just try to get started huh right
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so what was the first thing that was
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covered in the came out it was it I
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don't like it was all blurred when I
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don't have a swatch i was watching
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that's right that's right there and
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watch us three holy crap it turns out
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the watch 3 is actually the first non
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beta version of watch us in my personal
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opinion man did it look good
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well we haven't used it yet don't look I
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said look good idea was good yeah but
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honestly and no I mean I mean you know
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I'm kind of a watch skeptic at this
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point our yeah but a little bit but but
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no I mean I think it looks great and I
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was really really hoping that they would
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you know kind of just read rethink the
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watch rethink the app paradigm rethink
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the but the difference between the
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glances and the app and and everything
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else and I think they did and it looks
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really good i'm very tentatively
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optimistic about it honestly I think it
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shows that they are like you know by
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getting rid of the glances and by
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consolidating you know the app with the
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face and everything it looks like they
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are actually willing to reconsider and
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rethink fundamental things about how the
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watch works and that is awesome and it
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was because you know it kind of needed
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that you know Obi I think the overall
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the overall impression that I think
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we're getting from apple for about the
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watch during this is please use apps
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like that's kind of like you know first
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of all please make asked for and
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secondly like they are they are being
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much more forward with users including
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things like the like the the
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complication like gallery they showed up
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in the ethyl and the stadium in there
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there being more for with users about
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like how how how they discover that they
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can put apps on there
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watch and by making this better
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hopefully they'll make them a little
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more you know sticky and useful for
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people so overall it looks great and I
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really hope that it ends up performing
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and just being as good as it looks in
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the keynote yeah as the one of the three
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of us that i think is most enthusiastic
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about the watch i was overjoyed by what
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I saw I it looked unbelievable Apple
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apparently has made tremendous strides
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on making appt launching considerably
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quicker as far as we know all of that a
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software doesn't require any new watch
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hardware which presumably is coming
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sometime soon but no formal mention was
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made of it it looked awesome and there
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were some other features that I thought
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really good the the emergency thing that
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they did so if you mash down what was
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once the completely useless contacts
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button but it's now the like what is
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that the glances button or not glances
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but like that after the Amazon was gone
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yeah yeah doc so I seamaster on the dock
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button and it shows you what today is
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the three sliders which is power off
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power reserve lock device
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well if you hold down the button long
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enough it will eventually place an
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emergency call to the local emergency
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number in the particular locality that
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your standard sitting and and so if
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you're in Hong Kong with you have an
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American watch it will call whatever the
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appropriate number is in Hong Kong if
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you're in America regardless if you
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watch happens to be British it will call
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it's very very cool it will also i guess
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paid or send a push notification to the
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emergency contacts with your location
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and and I guess whereabouts or whatever
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it looks really really cool yeah this is
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i mean i-i I worry a little bit about
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how easy it is to invoke like if you
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just hold down the button because it is
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fairly you know it's not that uncommon
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to accidentally hold down the button on
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your watch if it's like pressing against
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something to have an action that read
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that only requires it to be held down
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for a long time with no additional
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confirmation step I think there's a bit
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of a risk of false alarms there but
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overall the idea of this feature is
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really nice you know implementation
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details aside the idea of it is great
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and it's yet one more reason why some
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people might want the watch yet one more
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benefit some people might get from it
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I don't expect this to be extremely
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widely used but for the people who do
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it'll make a really big difference in
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their life and that's that's nothing to
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I think you can make it too complicated
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though like because if you're in a
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situation and all like you can't make
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that you can really make it be an
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interaction can really make it so okay
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well to call mine online do this then
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look at your watch then place your
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finger precisely to touch this thing
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then do that then you know like confirm
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and double confirm insert both keys it
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really has to be the all i can do in
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this injured state is grow up for my
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watch feel a physical button and hold it
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down for a long time and even that may
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be beyond the their physical abilities
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of someone who's in a real dire
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I mean a more clever i'll have enough
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for collaborate and even more prone to
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false alarms implementation would be if
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it notices like your heart rate going
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down to unsafe levels or something but
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then again some people have really low
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heart rates and I don't know that you
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know like you're trying to make it sort
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of the this watching is actively
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monitoring whether this person is alive
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and healthy and when they're not at
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sends notifications on to call 911 but
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at least something there
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there are location out to their
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emergency contact or whatever I mean
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overall for although the watch three
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things I don't want to be mean Apple but
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it kind of makes me wonder maybe i watch
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has been in development for a long time
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and they launched it with one of only
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two physical buttons on the device being
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a feature that basically nobody used and
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they fix that and watch us three great
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girls were all talking about this you
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know that consolidated things made think
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that one of the biggest applause lines
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when people realize they repurpose that
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huge button on the side up to something
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that people whose I'm like when you were
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testing it internally did you have
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testers bias where you so enamored with
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the idea of contacting the other five
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people on the watch OS team and sending
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them scribbles or whatever like that
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that that you convince yourself that is
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actually such an important feature that
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deserve this big button i think it
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reveals a flaw in their testing group or
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methodology or some other bias that they
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missed this and it's also a shame
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because of apples recycles that kind of
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have to wait for an entire year from to
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fix this because it required a big
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rethink like I feel like almost all the
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things that they're revamping here with
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the exception of the text of making
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launch faster but almost all the other
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revamping seem like things that could
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have discovered with a with a
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broader test group when they were coming
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up with the first design and the rest of
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the stuff like making it launched faster
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that's not really making a launcher is
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making it be already launched can be
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already there right keep more stuff in
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memory so you don't have to launch it
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because you're never going to get
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launched fast and slow hardware that
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seems like a good rethinking I've heard
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some people say that is actually still
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not quite stream lined to left enough
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that you could streamline it further so
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that you could control the entire watch
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with just the physical buttons for
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example in your fingers and sweaty
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sweaty finger people are very angry
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ok the idea that trying to use you're
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watching a certain point your finger
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becomes useless it's got its 22 sweaty
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right and so they want to be able to
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quickly hit physical buttons to stop and
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start timer on their work out and stuff
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in situations where the finger cannot
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precisely interact with the screen
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anyway so I think there's still ways to
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go in terms of accessibility for can i
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use the watch like a regular watch
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without touching the screen at all i'm
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not sure the use case that Apple cares
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about this point but definitely watch 3
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is it huge step in the right direction
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on all fronts especially performs the
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way they showed and especially if
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whatever hit there is the battery life
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is not noticeable because one thing I
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think people are mostly not been
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complaining about is that my watch dies
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in the middle of the day so maybe they
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have a little bit of battery despair
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maybe they can squish things down and
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they'll be enough overhead for all these
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background updates and stuff like that
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yeah well I mean the watch battery is a
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bit of a problem for the 30-millimeter
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users who use work out a lot of that's
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true but beyond that yet in general
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you're right i mean most i mean when i
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was wearing the watch i would finish
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most days with like fifty percent
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battery left which is great but you
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weren't using the apps on the launch
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like that ever see how this works out in
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practice was like it you know because
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the apps or so cumbersome to use you
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wouldn't use it for that and so now if
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they become better to use I don't let
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that hold the whole brushes that we want
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people to be in and out of the apt
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quickly small quick interactions and
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your interactions can't be quick if you
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can't start them until you know 3 10
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seconds past they are talking about how
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the current app won't go away for a much
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longer period of time so that if you're
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in the store looking at a shopping list
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every time you bring that you know you
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look at shopping list you somehow we
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navigate to it and you check off the
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item you know Scott and then you put
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your arm down you walk 20 feet and i'll
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pick up another item pick up your watch
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again it's like I have no idea what
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you're looking at here is the time
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like I was just looking at the grocery
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list find the grocery list again even if
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it's something as simple as I hit the
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button swipe swipe to the doc go back
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into the end it will remember
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oh you were just looking at your grocery
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list and stick on that and this is kind
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of like a mind-reading thing where when
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you want it to be on the last thing you
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were looking at your frustrated that
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it's not but if you just want to show
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the time you're frustrated that it's
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showing the previous watch so there's
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another delicate balance and I hope they
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sort of user tested this more in the
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real world maybe now the largest
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publicly that they could have been all
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wearing it maybe that was the full on
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the methodology if you try to wear it
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secretly small group of people you're
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not gonna learn like it's so easy to
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convince yourself that little wheel of
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people is like super awesome and you can
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send each other like digital times and
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stuff and then once it's out in the wide
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world you're like you know I don't find
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myself using the wheel of people that
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often we have a whole big buttons use or
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something else but but kudos to them for
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not being stubborn saying you know that
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they didn't come up with the right
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paradigm the first time so let's try
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again instead of trying to just let me
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do minor tweaks and maybe we can adjust
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it as if they change the purpose of the
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home button iOS like it used to be when
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you push the home but you went back to
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the grid of icons we turned out that's
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totally wrong and we're using for
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something that they got that right the
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first time on the phone they did not get
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it right and watch
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yeah yeah we should probably move on
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from the watch pretty soon but a couple
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of other notes a lot more support for
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people who are wheelchair bound which I
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thought was really really cool that's
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great I'm and among other things a the
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stand notification now says time to roll
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take a break and push around for one
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minute i thought that was really awesome
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and I i can imagine if I was in a
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wheelchair I think that's amazing and
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certainly more inclusive they did a lot
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Welton they sort of did a lot with faces
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so there's different phases newer faces
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more customizable faces yet unless I'm
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missing something you can't as a
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third-party developer make your own face
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it's just the complications are a little
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bit more robust now is that kind of a
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fair summary yet it's basically I mean
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yeah you you have basically no ability
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to make faces at all but complications
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suck less you know before before like it
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one of the reasons why we haven't seen
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you know an incredibly useful
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complications from developers is there's
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been all sorts of limitations employees
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and honest underscores way better to you
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know qualified to talk about this than I
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am because I because basically I from
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what he told me i discovered there's
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nothing for me to do they're really
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before you know things just things like
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often the complication update its own
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data from its app versus just try to
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guess from like a timeline what it
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should be discovering stuff like that so
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with this release some of those
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limitations have been lifted and yeah i
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mean there haven't been removed just you
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know maybe like the limited raised or
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some some new things are possible that
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weren't possible before and complication
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but it seems like that the major
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advantage that the watch apps have is
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that kind of unified glance / at mode
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and if you're configured as a
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complication you you could you're more
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frequently kept in memory or something I
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don't know the details but like you have
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higher privileges in the system and
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you're refreshed more often and you you
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can you know you can respond faster
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because you're kept more memory so you
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know for people who want to configure
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one or two apps as their complications
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those apps will be substantially faster
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to respond then the other ones in the
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system but we will see how that shakes
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out and all the apps will have
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background refresh the the big slamming
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other on the old watch was that a lot of
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the times when you went to anything any
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kind of screen very often used all the
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information and by going to the screen
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you triggered ok now this application
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gets to do something to update
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information and again that kills the
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whole getting get out quick nature of
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the watch the new system is back and
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refresh all a privilege for i think its
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rollout definitely privileged if it's a
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if it's a complication and the little
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demo they gave was update all of your UI
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so it always matches so that you never
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in a situation where the glass shows one
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thing but if you launch the app but
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showed something else of it but if you
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you know so on the complication shows
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the third thing to just keep them all in
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sync always up-to-date and in the old
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regime of watching so you couldn't do
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that because you weren't running until
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they activated you and by then it was
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too late because you should was supposed
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to already have the information so
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they've learned that lesson they've
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implemented hopefully in a way that
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again doesn't kill your battery and and
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sorts out the limited memory on the
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watch in a way that actually enables the
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applications you use frequently to be
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all today tall consistent now in it
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always really really good it was funny
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that they actually showed a
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demonstration watch is two and how
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crappy it is too late and have been
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watching was too and is kevin lynch i
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believe was basically said in so many
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look at how crappy this is you guys
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don't worry we fixed it so it's all good
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people apples apples willing to to
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critique their own past work once the
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go away that one yeah and once the
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problems you on the work isn't how
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crappy this is look how crappy this was
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yeah it's very disappointed you're right
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a couple quick other watch highlights
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scribble I think they called it so you
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can actually do handwriting on the watch
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and that will turn into text I don't
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think that's going to be terribly
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however I do applaud the fact the the
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fact that it's a possibility that it's
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something you can do because sometimes
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you maybe don't want to dictate and
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maybe only want to write one word like
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the example on the apple website that
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goes through all the different stuff on
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the watch is the word starbucks like
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you're not gonna want to you're not you
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may not want to dictate that necessarily
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but at least you can scribble out STI
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ARB and it would hopefully figure out
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and I would never want to be be heard
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saying the word starbucks natural
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aptitude and there's this feels more
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like an accessibility feature feature
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for people who have difficulty speaking
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to it because I can't think of a
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situation where i mean you can whisper
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to the watch bring it up to your face
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and say starbucks whispered it's like a
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prayer and then like but because
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scratching out those letters
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graffiti-style not graffiti you can
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actually write actual letters on a
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little watch face especially if you have
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oh boy that does not sound like a good
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time and dictation for people who
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haven't tried it
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dictating on the watch like dictating
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anywhere if you're afraid to be talking
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to your device's just do it a few times
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do you realize wow this is faster than i
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could type on a keyboard because it
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usually is for most people it's really
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efficient but yes it's nice they added
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there is an option and it's definitely
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an overwatch os3 feature table throw it
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in we can do it may be good may be bad
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maybe people use it in certain
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situations but why not certainly it's
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not sucking your battery up its input
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mode and yeah it's better than it's
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better than digital doodles to each
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other it's not you know so and it also
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supports Chinese which yeah that's a big
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house which is really impressive and
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actually that's a great mini segue there
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were a handful of people of color on
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stage there are a handful of women on
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stage and I thought every single one of
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the people of color and women on stage
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absolutely killed it will talk a little
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bit more later about the woman whose
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name escapes me that did the music demo
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who I thought was fantastic and the
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woman who did the scribble that the
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Chinese scribble demo I i could have
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practiced that character a couple of
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characters or so
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this week's and screwed yeah that's
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difficult the amount of space I mean
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look so big up on the screen no it's
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drawing chinese character but think it's
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like some of those strokes were so small
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on like that finger must have been
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covering the entire thing yeah I don't
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know enough about a Far East text input
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to know how important it is to be able
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to do this on the watch like his
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dictation worse in in Chinese or
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Japanese or other language like that
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because I don't always get you know it
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still seems like it would be faster to
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dictate but certainly drawing out
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characters or he's like you know
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selecting radicals or whatever and
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combining into characters like when you
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have language that don't just have 26
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letters it's nothing it's a big feature
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well and also like you know it when you
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have a language like that where the the
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density of like how many characters you
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need to express the message that you're
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trying to shoulder when you have like
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you know only a handful of characters vs
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like you know having to step out five
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words and I think it's more compelling
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because it's in a less time you didn't
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put this thing on this on this very on
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this device that has very limited input
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capabilities but you know overall I
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think that the dueling of characters is
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it's the kind of thing where like it's
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going to be one of those fine balances
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where it has to be a very short thing
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you're trying to doodle and it has to be
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way faster than doing it on but then
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taking that your phone just doing it
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there and like it's only you know if
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it's also it's almost like the
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implementation and the context what
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you're doing these things if it's going
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to be a big pain like the first few
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times you do it you probably can say is
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you take my phone from now on to do this
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and this thing so it has to be really
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good and you know it's it's probably not
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going to be that widely used but it
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would be nice for the for occasional use
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i think yeah i'm getting back to the
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diversity topic like yeah become this
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before is there's only so much apple can
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do here because they're the high-level
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c-level executives the people on there
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like important people page are mostly
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white guys right now and you have to
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wait for them to die or retire to be
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replaced until you can fix your
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diversity problem at the top right you
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know like that that's just a problem
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they face from years and years of not
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paying enough attention to this topic so
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they're fixing it in presentations the
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best they can't they still have you know
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Craig federighi q and like everyone else
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up there like doing it and and tim cook
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and like the whole people who are really
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really in charge at the very top the
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right below them the people who do the
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demos there's no reason that those have
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to be a bunch of people look at that
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exactly like them right and so they're
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doing they're doing a good job they're
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doing and it's amazing like they could
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have done this many years ago but it's
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taken a long time for them to realize
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you know like the first time I did it
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like we'll have one woman presenter like
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keep trying no yeah okay we'll have two
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women presenters but both white good
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you're making progress on it's like
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they're they're slowly working the way
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up to in and like you said all the
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presenters are great of course like you
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know all they're gonna be great because
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they get these aren't just like random
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people they picked out of Apple
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employees you look at their titles
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they're in charge over intimately
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involved with the products they're
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presenting their not like random drop-in
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people they they know their stuff
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they're enthusiastic about it and like
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everyone else on stage they rehearse the
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hell out of them into so everybody's
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so that was nice to see it's alex is
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still going to be years and years before
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you see that at the very top but I hope
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all presentations are like this should
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be like the minimum bar now for example
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the top level they should all be like
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this and quality wise as well because
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yeah now I thought I thought it actually
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added to the quality of the presentation
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as a whole to hear different voices and
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in because these people like you said so
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freaking good at doing these
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presentations mean he's careful these
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people were the first time I'd seen them
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on stage and the better than Craig's
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first time hard yet
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now to be fair i freaking love Craig now
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got any cute now
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yeah that's yeah that's already come on
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opinions so I love photos I can't wait
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to do it anyway that's what us and I
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think the best summary of the watch is
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part of the keynote which up until the
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state of the union was the my favorite
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thing i've seen so far today but the the
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further the preview page for watching us
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which I mentioned briefly earlier it
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says at the top of the screen watch OS
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feels like a whole new watch which is
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kind of uncomfortable that's hair like a
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well this old stuff is crap today we
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already fixed they would go over all
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good right but it's true i mean i'm
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really really x i'm really excited about
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them about where this is going and the
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watch looks really great response to
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this week by fracture fracture is a
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now fracture these photos are amazing
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looking these nice thin pieces of glass
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with your photos printed in vivid colors
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the colors pop up you won't believe and
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it comes in the solid foam core backing
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behind the glass so you can mount it
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really easily on walls or you can stand
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up on desks little desk stands they make
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it so easy to use these prints and they
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just look fantastic
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I get compliments on my fractured prints
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all the time because they're all over
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our house they make your photos look
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good if you want to get your photo
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printed you know what you probably
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so often your photo just kind of set on
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your phone forever or the UFOs what you
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post on facebook or instagram and
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they're there for like a day and they're
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just buried forever and no one ever sees
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them again with fracture you can get
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your photos printed and have this
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physical artifact have an actual
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physical representation of your photo
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that is an object made to last and it
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just looks fantastic
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you don't need to frame they are their
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own thing you know they're all their own
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self-contained thing so it looks great
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the value is amazing for the video for
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the price of a fantastic gifts you can
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give them as gifts for holidays or if
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you're only if you go on a trip with
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somebody you can do something gift some
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photos from the trip on fractures are
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you can send family if you have like you
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can like send pictures of your kids to
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their grandparents or something else
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like that you can do that fracture just
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make great gifts and Great Prince I like
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fracture a lot i used them myself there
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if I if I need photos printed let's go
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to them it's simple as that and i said i
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recommend you do the same now fracture
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is partnering with big green egg to give
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away Big Green Egg minimax for father's
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day all you need to do to enter is
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so next TV OS the only thing I really
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got from that I was really excited about
[TS]
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there were two things actually one dark
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mode yes which is something i didn't
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even know I wanted but now that I know
[TS]
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what I know you did as soon as I saw it
[TS]
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I was like oh yeah that makes a lot of
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sense that's really good
[TS]
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and supposedly single sign-on which
[TS]
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supposedly will fix all those problems
[TS]
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that will be awesome to so dark mode
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that I've noticed recently that some TV
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OS apps have been implementing their own
[TS]
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dark mode like they've been responding i
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guess i'm assuming user requests for it
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i like why why do people care about dark
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mode it's not just aesthetics but you
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know athletics is one thing just as
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Marco people sometimes like dark mode
[TS]
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for their applications second thing is
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people watch television and darkened
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room sometimes and if your UI has a
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white background and you come out of any
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kind of video which usually doesn't have
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a white background
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it can be extremely sort of shocking and
[TS]
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glaring and this is not why they did it
[TS]
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but for me specifically have a plasma TV
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and pure white and a plasma TV draws a
[TS]
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lot of extra power and can make your
[TS]
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Transformers wine a little bit and it's
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the situation it's a that again this is
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not why they did it but I'm excited by
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it and also because i watch TV in a semi
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semi darkened room at night so it kind
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of boggles my mind that they decided to
[TS]
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go with white for their TV you why
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because they know people watch TV and
[TS]
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kind of darkened rooms and you know when
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the show is over you hit the menu but
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you know what your eyeballs blown out
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especially since non plasma TVs have
[TS]
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incredible brightness like LED tvs can
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go super super bright and sometimes
[TS]
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people haven't turned up that bright so
[TS]
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they can see then bright sunlight
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it's just not a good plan and a single
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sign on is the other major pain point
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applications you got to go through this
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little dance and go to website and type
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in these codes and I think that stops
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regular people from stalling too many
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apps because it's a pain in the butt if
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there is a single sign-on you can do
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once and handles all that for you and
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people implemented which i'm sure they
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will because people want you install
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this will be great so two thumbs up it
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seems i mean the single sign-on I don't
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honestly know because I don't have cable
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and you know I'm probably never gonna
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see this myself but the the dark no just
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go back to that for a second
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you know that we saw like with the with
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watch us with the update it seems like
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watch us is getting a major course
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correction and with iOS looks will get
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to a little bit i'm sure it seems like
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the design language has been updated to
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somewhat of a course correction so much
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and refreshing things making things new
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you know things like you know buttons
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are now more visible as buttons and some
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of the texts little bit thicker to be
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more legible and stuff
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the the TV getting dark mode i wonder if
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that is kind of like a like a half step
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in a course correction we're like you
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know the previous Apple TV was all
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constantly dark background you know most
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other TV boxes do dark background
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because it all the reasons that it
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basically works better for tvs the ATVs
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are actually used and TV hardware
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everything the new Apple TV getting this
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all white theme up front
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honestly I consider that a design
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misstep and I think you know they should
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have like instead of just offering dark
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mode they should just make TV OS 10 or
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whatever it's gonna be called just make
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it dark like just rethinking the whole
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OS to be dark because most of the other
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design elements don't have to change
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that's one of the reasons are able to
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offer a dark mode without the whole ton
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of work like almost all the rest of the
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design works whether it's a light or
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dark background so why not
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course-correct all the way and just
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really themed TV OS to be dark and not
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have this weird setting have to mean I
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have a bright dual design there as part
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of the reason light mode of each other
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like motors it did it was a
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differentiator because except every
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other TV box was a like a black rich
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background with stuff on it and Apple
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was different different a bad way in
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this case but it is differentiated in
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the market so it seems like they want to
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get even a dark mode is not black like
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the old apple TV it looks like it's dark
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grey yeah anyway this is not the things
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that are most wrong with TV OS are
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mostly involved inside the applications
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themselves how do i navigate how is it
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presented and that's not an OS level
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problem that's like a problem of how do
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you implement the your app for showing
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TV shows and movies and individual apps
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can fix that Apple's may still be not
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particularly convenient to use but the
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netflix app or whatever can continue to
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make a pleasant experience within the
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framework that's provided that the other
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thing that's worth bringing up with
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regard to the tvs and you remote app
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that was aq promise like three months
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ago when he was when he was on the the
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yeah you're right it wasn't the talk
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show wasn't it that's here now and to be
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honest I don't really see what some
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people play games but they can have
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multiple controllers you can use any any
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iOS devices control that was the other
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big announcement and instead of doing
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that at CVS games can finally require a
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real controller-
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again at a misstep that seems remember
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there was a bouncing back and forth but
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the thing is released about the copy but
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this is I don't know how you can come to
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that decision and not realize the
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implications not like anything has
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changed radically in the market since
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then they've just like heard the cries
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of everybody else in the same crimes
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like you just got any 5lb look this into
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the room and said you know you can write
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games for Apple TV but you have to mute
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you have to make them usable in this
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terrible remotes like seriously no you
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have to why we want everyone to be able
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to play them well then there's certain
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kinds of games we just can't make well
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try harder and then that I don't I its
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they still seem weird about games apples
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always worried about games this is a
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step in the right direction
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those controllers are still super
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expensive than the show you know we have
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support for controllers a family but by
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sport controllers plus the price of an
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apple for controls crossed like what
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twice as much as an apple TV
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yeah there are like certainly still like
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40 or 50 bucks I don't know there's at
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yeah their gaming story is still model
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less compared to the consoles but you
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time marches on I mean you know console
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controllers aren't cheap either but but
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you know overall you like it you get you
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definitely into console price territory
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if you're planning on buying for
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contractors but I think if that ends up
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working out like if we get cool
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multiplayer games that could be really
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great like that could be an awesome
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thing for the platform if they care they
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make a first-party controller but i'd
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read them doing well based on the design
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of their first part of remote yeah
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but yeah those tos and I mean I think it
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looks good I we really should have just
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steal on or something like that to see
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if he's happy but to me it looked good
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but i will see what happens after tea
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vos was iOS 10 so when I said iOS I
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really meant OS 10 which is interested
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yeah i like i like the beginning at team
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could come out and say we have four
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platforms and listed them off and they
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didn't do the rename then you know like
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they was a weird kind of anomaly arrange
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the presentation that was an intentional
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tease or the just realized all at this
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point we can't tell them it's mac OS so
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Craig got to come out into his renaming
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slide that he's done for the past few
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like picking place names in California
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like this time was about changing it to
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lowercase a mac OS cases favorite name
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at that was fine we expected it what did
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they talk about what I will say though I
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I did kind of expect them to just go
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with mac OS 12 I didn't expect the
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California names to continue and I
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totally expected that some places in
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California it's such a great branding
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because they ran out of cats cats
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weather good branding too but they ran
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out but they won't run out of place
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names in california right i think i
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think the place names are better than
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years and the better than numbers by the
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way the version is 10-12 so not that it
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matters anymore but and also Sierra is a
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way better name than freaking out captan
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which i still hate the all time that
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time is over now
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yeah thanks sara is a good name so in
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mac OS Sierra there is a serie which
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looked very powerful and toward the end
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of this serie demo it appeared as though
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it was doing a very googley photos style
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like show me the files that involve i
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don't know i'm trying to do whatever
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example they use but you know showing
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the files about the party i'm throwing
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no show me the ones i worked on with
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Aaron or something else something along
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these lines where you're you're finding
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a search query but being fairly abstract
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well and it's kind of abstract show me
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the files about the about the party
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we're planning you know there's
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something on those lines and it was able
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to piece together what that meant know
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the ones that i worked on with Aaron and
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then you bring down a shorter list
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I didn't like that it was very goofy and
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the initial response pastor I was trying
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to be funny be like here's your files
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your master file there i love the way
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you work like yeah the whole like Siri
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like being beings like what it thinks is
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funny and clever like the idea I think
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that time is over now to drop though
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there's a place for that but it's not
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when you're in the middle of an
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interaction our searches like and the
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fact that everything was like
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Notification Center was weird and they
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have another magazine or save searches
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and speaking of the photo stuff a lot of
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the features that we're going to talk
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about in the context of iOS I think it's
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pretty clear now that they're also
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available on the mac like the photos in
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the deep learning in the blah blah a lot
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of those like oh and also on photos on
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the mac which is great like but they
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just didn't demoed in the context of mac
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you know backpack is ryan was all these
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features have been demo'd like it here
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is you know face detection for example
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shown in iphoto it would be shown on the
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mac and iphoto all the stuff here with
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face detection stuff i assume is all the
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better all be of help on the mac
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but they didn't demo in that context so
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surely Syria will fit in with that but
[TS]
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really it seemed like the the new
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impressive features a series were mostly
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reserved to be shown in connection with
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iOS i'm assuming some of them are on the
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mac but fact the series exist in the mac
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is good the UI and having stuff in
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Notification Center maybe not so good
[TS]
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and the my hope unification of spotlight
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in Syria doesn't seem to be in the cards
[TS]
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they still seem to be separate things
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which seems so it to me and I do kind of
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like it kind of bothers me how
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Notification Center is kind of like the
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junk drawer on OS 10 like where they
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show new features that like that most of
[TS]
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which come from iOS then the way to do
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it that did they do that just by like
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having this iOS like drawer guys like an
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iOS simulator simulator is highly
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enigmatic mystery because he asked any
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mode like I do wish there was like a
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little bit you know maybe more more
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native seeming or more you know more
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integrated you know integration of these
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features but you know i guess you well
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that will work itself out over time as
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they have a you know works redesigned as
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they say and features you use but yeah
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overall it looks pretty cool i do think
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though I i will go back and say like I
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think that there i think the room for
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Syria to have any kind of personality or
[TS]
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wit I think that's over because that
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gets all first of all that it doesn't
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translate well a lot of different
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cultures you people you want how that
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when you're conversing with it in a
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funny way not what now when you started
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doing a task i think i think it gets old
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after like five seconds and then and
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once you're past that point like you
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don't want to hear you don't want your
[TS]
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your computer to be witty like when you
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type in command the command line you get
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witty responses from bosch something
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else but i think i like it occasionally
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but the problem is there's no way to
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tell when I'm going to receive it and
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think oh that's that's really cute and
[TS]
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when i'm going to see your filin is
[TS]
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stylin like come on really
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but they don't have that are the
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personalization stuff down like that the
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whole thing we're talking about Google
[TS]
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is like it should learn my preferences
[TS]
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if you love the thing to be funny that
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for those people should be funny for the
[TS]
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people don't like the funny it should
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learn that that doesn't want them you
[TS]
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know that that is not even in the cards
[TS]
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in terms of of personalized interaction
[TS]
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with Syria that it will learn from what
[TS]
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you do and how you interact with it what
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and don't like and that they need to get
[TS]
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on that it also like its kind of no good
[TS]
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if it's being funny and also not doing
[TS]
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what you want to do that's the worst
[TS]
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like then you really hate it you're like
[TS]
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you why you being funny you just failed
[TS]
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when i asked you guys do you like it
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just doesn't interest notice there are
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some websites i found for why are you
[TS]
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hey what happened exactly I can search
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the web for that if you'd like I mean
[TS]
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yeah like it has to like I just think
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they're the chances of that not being
[TS]
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annoying are so low the head they should
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just got to get cancer got abs and
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windows windows and tabs
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I don't know we've got a bunch of things
[TS]
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actually so going back the unlocking the
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mac with walks watch proximity really
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dig it or toucha touch ID on the
[TS]
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keyboard of your Mac just saying yeah
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maybe you never know i really dig the
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proximity thing what I want to see
[TS]
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though is how is corporate IT and like
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that sort of now but i suspect that
[TS]
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anyone who has a job that has more than
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just a few people at it will probably
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have the kibosh put on that immediately
[TS]
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or kibosh however you pronounce yeah
[TS]
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today I got a lot of flack about that
[TS]
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honest question like do companies and
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have that kind of strict security
[TS]
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requirement often use max yeah i mean so
[TS]
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my company issued me a 15-inch macbook
[TS]
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pro issues a lot of developers 15-inch
[TS]
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macbook pros and the VPN software we use
[TS]
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which is checkpoint VPN also includes a
[TS]
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non device firewall that prevents all
[TS]
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sorts of crap like airdrop why is
[TS]
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airdrop filtered by my butt by my own
[TS]
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advice and it doesn't have to be a
[TS]
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secure company as soon as you have an IT
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department makes at all that stuff that
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exam so so I you know I don't run VPN on
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this computer unless i actually like
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it's not even installed unless I need to
[TS]
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do something for work involving the VPN
[TS]
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when I will and I will install it do my
[TS]
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work and uninstall VPN because it's that
[TS]
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much for nightmare but anyway I really
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like the idea of unlocking them at the
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watch by proximity really dig it
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universal clipboard i love this this
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looks amazing universal clipper looks
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like a good idea but as someone who uses
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the clipboard to store lots of crap i
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saw it as a potential for data loss
[TS]
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where some until I get into the right
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mindset i don't have the idea that
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copying something in my phone will
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squish what's on my mac not use a
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clipboard history things are really
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squished will just push it down but it's
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still weird for regular people think
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if it works well historically continuity
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realized that i don't have any of those
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apps installed 15 it won't work
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come to rely on but if it's at all flaky
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i will just go back to pretending it
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i'm really looking forward to though it
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missed a spot from way back in the day
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I'm hopeful that it works well there are
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a few things that Apple is done today
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make me think they're really really
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going all in on all in iCloud which is
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pretty well generally speaking and the
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working well generally speaking but I am
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I am very scared about having this all
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rely on some sort of server so i'm
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assuming maybe not maybe it's only local
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but I'm assuming some server side thing
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on Apple's well now the the one I'm
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thinking of my tree developments that
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I'm scared hold me was the disc
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optimization like the idea is good that
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people run out of space in the maknae
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have no idea what the hell to do about
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it and apple can tell you more space in
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their iCloud Drive thing if they know
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they'll transparently take your files
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and and take the ones you haven't used
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in a while push them up to the cloud and
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free up the space and it will all be
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transparent to you and you'll save a lot
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of room on your mac and like this is
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basically automated cleaning that people
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don't do manually which is all great
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wise and implementation was especially
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if it's entirely transparent or well not
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entirely transparent you would still
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want some way for people to know the
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dismal get pushed up to the cloud lots
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of people have expressed the idea i want
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to be able to tell that it shouldn't
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push these files up to the cloud
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I don't know like that there are lots of
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pitfalls in terms of the implementation
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of this but the real one is if it
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doesn't work like reliably all the time
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or at least as reliably as Dropbox then
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then is just like a giant potential data
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loss button or you can turn this on an
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Apple will selectively hose certain ones
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your files transparently in the
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background without you knowing and with
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new with no way for you to fix it so
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this is a feature that I look at and say
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feature based on my past history of
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using iCloud Drive and the complete
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under bug ability of it and the non
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flexibility other whereas something like
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it's a single folder you can have
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selective sink their badges on all the
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icons to an official API they support i
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know when things are saying I know when
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they're not i can I can you know I have
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a web interface to see like its version
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of truth like all the tools available to
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dropbox even though they're you know
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fidgety or whatever don't seem to be
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available miss and historically speaking
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apple has not been as good and reliable
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as Dropbox and other things about this
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so this feature really scares me
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especially since it looks so attractive
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to people who are novices and just like
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oh yes please take care of my storage
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yeah if they turn that on and it just
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hoses everything that's going to be a
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bad experience how you even recover
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someone from that I know this is maybe I
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shouldn't be so pessimistic about this
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like implementation why is it seems like
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it's a good idea but there are so many
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places that from user interface to like
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reliability to performance where it just
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seems terrifying to me
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yeah i mean like you know like an
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interesting thought experiment where I
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think would be you know if if dropbox
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offered this exact same feature would
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you enable like OS why not just like
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yeah it's dropbox folder yeah did you
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enable i don't think i enabled for
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dropbox i don't think i would either end
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and dropbox I trust way more than
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thinking a cloud drive like it seems
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like a good idea but I think they're
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better solutions to this problem which
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we'll get to in a little bit of the tap
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the tabs and windows thing that seems
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like they're just like scraping the
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bottom of the barrel like oh we added
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tabs the most things you know we just
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make this an official API that you get
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for free to use any document is easy to
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implement you can just mixed windows
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together with tabs lots of applications
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have tabs it's nice to have a unified
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interface is a recognition that tabs are
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as common as buttons and sheets and text
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input field and combo boxes and all the
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other controls they have instead of
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having to roll your own tabs here is a
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standard control for you know not tabs
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as in the old style one where you switch
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your different like what they call it
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the segmented control now just looking
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at your actual fact abs back in the day
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but web browsers have to know each tab
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is actually entirely
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no you can tear them out and combine
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them it's nice to see that the system
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level feature they're kind of boring
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they look like Safari tabs and I'm not
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sure safari tabs the best information of
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tabs but it's a nice idea but I think
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you get it for free of your NS documents
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of class yeah he tells what I think so I
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mean and I think that's great you know
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as as a user of rs.10 mean I'm not
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really a Mac Developer but you know as a
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user of OS 10 i think that's gonna be
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yep picture-in-picture not a problem i
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feel needs solving but always hungry
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I mean yeah like for people to use full
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screen is totally a problem solving this
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full screen is like I would like to be
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falsely and that's how I work i swipe on
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my pad from side to side but sometimes i
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also want to keep my eye on the game i
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wish they had more than one picture in
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picture so you could stack them up
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of course you want more windows nothing
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haha you got it you got a 5k imac you
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can have four games like they should be
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like Tyler the for football games from a
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the ESPN yeah right
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really I i think it would be it will be
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nice because like so often i want to
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have like a video going from usually to
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youtube or in some occasions vimeo
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usually youtube so i have this video
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going and like I want to move it to the
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side of the screen so I can do something
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else at the same time or so i can watch
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another window and you have to have the
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you know it you know if you wanna do
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that now with before picture in picture
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on the Mac you have to have the entire
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browser Chrome around that showing some
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wear and kind of move the window in such
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a way that you like you know you have it
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off screen it's kind of its kind of
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clunky now so this would be nice for
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that too now that didn't think about the
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full screen stuff that's a that's a very
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good point let's see what else they do
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the messages improvements which we'll
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talk about in a minute comes to the mac
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I'm not most all Apple pay for the web
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which is a kind of exciting and I don't
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know i think that was most everything
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that big like flagship features seem to
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be Syria which is similarly solving a
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problem i don't think i have but that
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that really deep contextual search does
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sound pretty interesting and I am
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curious to try that
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so even though they didn't announce it
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at this segment this is the bar we talk
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about the new file system because it was
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only available on the mac right now
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it was not it was not announced the
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keynote I found out about it after
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walking outside of the keynote when
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everybody else found that you know the
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updated WT sessions to show the secret
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ones and section 701 was the one about
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the new file system they never found the
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developer documentation online didn't
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even get as far as I'm aware and note in
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one of the little word clouds and that's
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mostly because even though there's going
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to be sessions on this and this
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technical documentation and it was
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announced in the state of the union
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this is not a feature around the
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operating systems beta is that they
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shipped and it's not going to be a
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feature of any the operating systems
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that that they ship in final acceptance
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experimental form the new opera the new
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file system will be for 2017 because as
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we all know 2017 is the year the file
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system but they announced that is it now
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and they're getting people working on it
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what the hell's the name of it it's got
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a terrible day pfft it's called a pia
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apfsds stands for Apple the P stands
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full stands for pole i guess i don't
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PU ll i don't know it's like Apple like
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a ship PFS PFS is andrew filesystem and
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ifs probably also anyway it's got a name
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it's called a PFS it is only available
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on the mac and you can do a limited
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number of things that now you go so far
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you will be on the platform read and
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write you can't boot off of it now has
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all sorts of limitations all which I
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assume ur because like it's not done yet
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and so this is how they're sort of
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testing the waters with it and letting
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people play with it
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I mean they're also kinda like saving
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people from themselves here like you
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know it's not bootable and you can't
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time machine within stuff because they
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really don't want you to be installing a
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beta file system on your main drive and
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get with your only copy computed and you
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know people would do that if they didn't
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have these restrictions
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a lot of interesting features almost all
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the ones i would expect it to have more
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than that more than I had hoped because
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i had heard things that made me think it
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was gonna have too much force it's flash
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only yeah which we expected and that's
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great because it means they can optimize
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for that case it has cloning files which
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is you would think it's just not just
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like hard links to files but it's not
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because they're copy-on-write so you can
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basically duplicate file in more or less
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instantaneously and they will diverge
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slowly are part of that is the same
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underlying technology i'm assuming the
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unit for snapshots which means you can
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take a point I'm snapshot of the entire
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file system you can I think in clone
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entire file system i would assume you
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can revert to a snapshot which they said
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it's great for flashlights classrooms
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where they can just you know have the
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initial state and let the kids use
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introverted it's also great for apple
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stores i'm sure they're all of it where
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they can at the end of the day revert
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all the demo devices to their previous
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state if you are a backup program having
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a point I'm snapshot to work out which
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is great and you know the fact that
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doesn't work with time machine it's
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because the new version of time machines
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can take advantage of all these features
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and be a million times better than used
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to being it supports extended attributes
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because it has two and this this Apple
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documentation will put a link in the
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show notes it basically goes through
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like here's why hfs+ sucks and not so
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many words and it goes through all the
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things like oh hm s+ could do things
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where your thing was inconsistent on
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disk and has no atomic operations and
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things wouldn't be committed so that
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something happened at this point you
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think you could corrupted they tried to
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be nice about it but yeah and the
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session description 471 is we're gonna
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tell you why this file system is better
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than hfs+ which is shooting fish in a
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barrel but it's better fast directory
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sizing never try to get the size of a
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big folder and it is calculating and
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everything like they have a way to that
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you know atomic operations limited
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atomic operations
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this is all great stuff out being able
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to make containers and put multiple
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lines on the same container and having
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them all see that side so I can set of
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partitioning so you have a hundred gigs
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you can put three volumes 100 gigs and
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they all look like they're hundred gigs
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are not designed hundreds of the space
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and they're going to fight for it but
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there's no like only divide the hundred
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big partition up into you know 50 50 or
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33 3333 it's just that's not how this
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file system works its they could all
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share the space and then they will
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slowly accumulate into the space it
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supports raid 10 and
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just you know a concatenated volumes and
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jbod where you just take a bunch of
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disks and make one larger volume out of
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the only real thing is missing and I
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don't think it's something they can't
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add later I hope is any facility for
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data integrity at the file level to
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account for bit rot so you have a bunch
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of important files like your family
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photos and you keep them around and keep
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popping from this disc how do you know
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that you did flip errors aren't solely
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corrupting your files
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the answer is for now at the file system
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level you still don't but this seems
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like a thoroughly modern file system and
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the fact that feature doesn't exist now
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I don't mind too much because all the
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other things are doing it's like that
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they're saying all the right things ok
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at everything in this documentation says
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modern sleek file system that's going to
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enable UI features that are better will
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make time machine better make backup
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apps better will make it easier to roll
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back to known good states like so many
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nice friendly features can be built on
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top of this file system this is what the
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world is waiting for for a really long
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time still upset there's no data
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integrity but because it's nomas so
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I see no reason they can't add that
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later for systems that can support the
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cpu CPU overhead that's going to add so
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as far as you can tell so far so good
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yes now i like it i'm happy the name is
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stupid but you know then name is stupid
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the future that spans their entire
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product line and which is exactly what
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the first version look at all the crap
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they had hfs+ and hid in there all
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documentation like we don't have your
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NHS plus extended attributes were
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attacked on wasn't that crappy well here
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is not tacked-on we thought of it from
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the beginning it's a super important
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feature good job guys
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drives so that's interesting that's I'm
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kind of surprised that they can even
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did that I just that because you can
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make like in the current uh command line
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tools you can make like an image i got a
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volume container image like a disk image
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oh and one thing we didn't touch on as
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case-sensitive only i'm not quite sure
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what they'll do their because a lot of
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folding comparison crap and hfs+ is a
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it's complicated and doesn't do what
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people expect and it's kind of a
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non-deterministic but it's it's
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complicated know what exactly is going
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to do in terms of this is like when you
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what a file name is case sensitive or
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this is case-sensitive only for now i'm
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assuming they will implement case
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insensitivity but it's still I think an
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open question will the implant case in
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sensitivity in the same weird way that
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performance and simplicity reasons
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yeah like it I mean I'm no one sees the
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processing on the phone so it's fine but
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yea case-sensitive is simpler to
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implement and if they do way with the
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filename normalization stuff will put
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some show about links for unicode
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organization we don't have time to
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explain now but if they do away with
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that and just make it a giant bag of
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bytes and leave it up to the OS that
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would be one easy enough solution or if
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they come up with a more streamlined
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modern way to do their case folding for
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the case insensitive things and and
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handle that I don't know I not quite
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sure what to do but a lot of the scary
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limitations are just because this isn't
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done yet and this is only sort of a a
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toy for people to play with on the mac
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but it will be rolling out everywhere
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next year so I have one other important
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questions so I i do not have to get to
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in my hotel room streaming both the
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keynote and studying with a handful of
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other people and let's say the Union it
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happened that almost everyone in the
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room was a developer and today the Union
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they said okay it's time to talk about
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the new file system and literally
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everyone in the room of which there were
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like six of us ever all of them verbally
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the same moment such thing as I'm
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sitting there watching the the talk
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people are on Twitter saying oh my god
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there was a ding and I thought that I
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heard you I heard you in your room right
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and I thought that's funny huh
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and and then I realized no no these
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people are not being funny there there
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was a day is that a truth is that true
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was there a ding in the room there was a
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day in the room did it come from PA no
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interesting but there was a ding there
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was a ding in the room next up let's
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talk about filesystems alright that's
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magnificent and i am very impressed
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so I just want to put that out there
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that someone had the wherewithal to
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either simulate or bring an actual bell
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with which to ding when when it was time
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to talk about the file system to the
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personal estate here could you tell that
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that that's going to come out of the
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video first of all and second of all
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it's a big place
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I think the only people who heard it
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with people who are in the proximity of
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the day I don't know some people on
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Twitter were saying they were like
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second row or something well let's sort
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of this way the reaction in the room
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shows that some people know what the
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thing was about other people didn't know
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and didn't care but that's fair that but
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did you notice to the person to the the
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person speaking at the time did they
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even notice the powers now I don't that
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I don't think so anyway I just want to
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say for the record I did not make the
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ding yeah well god knows i didn't
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because I was married
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well somebody spent eight dollars very
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well to make that ding approximately
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when we start again I'm just think i
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would never an interrupter disrupt a
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live presentation by apple in that way
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no of course not you wouldn't I mean you
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know what I would not do that fair
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enough uh anything else on macros oh we
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forgot one more mac OS it doesn't
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support my mac yes right there haha John
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has to get a new mac pro to run the new
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l-system it's amazingly they stopped
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supporting my mac and i wondered why and
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asked Marco he came up with what I think
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is the actual answer pretty much on the
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why won't they support the 2008 macro
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which is my mouth they support the 2009
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mac pro their 64-bit x86 machines there
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plenty fast it's not like my machine is
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too slow to run Mac OS Sierra what's the
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deal why is my mac not supported and
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then tomorrow came up with and then
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until I hear someone say otherwise
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sounds like the answer is my cpu doesn't
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have the Intel like decryption focused
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instructions i figured with the
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colleagues at apx or something
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I i don't know i forgot it's like like
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the hardware aes acceleration stuff like
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like the Intel and instructions to the
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CPUs somewhere around that time and I
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think you fall on the wrong side of that
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that right and so the lot of the arm you
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know the arm system-on-chips have these
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instructions a dick modern x86 CPUs have
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these instructions encryption by the way
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to mention this for the new Apple
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filesystem encryption is built in both
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thought full volume encryption and also
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profile encryption like iOS users but
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this is built into the file system
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instead of built on top of it like you
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can totally tell this is a filesystem
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made for apples devices these are
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exactly the features they need that they
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previously able to implement on top of
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the fossils and now they're built into
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it you can run it without encryption how
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it requires encryption but for the sake
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of simplicity of implementation they
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basically said we're not going to put
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like a conditional code and have a pepe
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have a code paths that doesn't use we're
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not going to like disabled encryption on
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2008 max and we're not going to save you
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do the criminal do a second coat that
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doesn't use those instructors said fine
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just not support i mean it's an
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eight-year-old computer at this point
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totally understandable luckily i have
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2009 macro at work so i'll be ok there
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will be able to use it but yeah I
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stopped supporting my mac with the
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current version of the mac operating
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system so my my 2008 mac pro was able to
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run every version of mac OS 10 OS 10
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more or less but not like it's not every
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person's 10-0 didn't have a x86 version
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yeah I don't think you could run any of
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them until what ten yeah shell 10 until
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the x86 transition anyway the point is
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my mac is not supported and they did not
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release new mac for me to buy so we'll
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keep watching on that front
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oh god I don't even want to think about
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so what do you want to do like you know
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this fall and it becomes the new version
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you just never going to have the new
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version OS time going to install it at
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work and I'm not gonna install it at
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home and we'll see how long that it that
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remains terrible
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wow I mean by that point they could have
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announced new macro that i order I don't
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know but it's not it's not an issue that
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I have to deal with for a couple months
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yet i love that this is like this is
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this is like the the roller coaster of
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Syracuse keynotes it's like you know you
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have like amazing filesystem news like
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it that you know no one expected a new
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file system to ever happen just like us
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with came at like so i said you okay
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yeah but no one else like you know
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you've been waiting for this for like
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it finally happened but also there's
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always a party yeah
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also going to force you to finally
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upgrade your back for that's not bad use
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that that's good news all they're gonna
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do is make me mad like that's fine like
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there again I don't think there's
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there's a perfectly valid decision to
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not support an eight-year-old computer
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like that but totally like it's fine i'm
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i'm i'm not upset about that at all
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I it will be handled know it's kind of
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it's kind of amazing it made it this far
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yeah so leaving aside hardware gripes
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what's the next bit of low-hanging fruit
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the file system has been conquered
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Copeland's been conquered or preventing
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home 2010 with Swift has been conferred
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conquered what's the next bit of
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low-hanging fruit that you're really
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really waiting for you fix the finder
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I mean especially oh no don't don't get
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us to come on let you know what you're
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saying i gotta find the one that finally
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I want to kind of gave up on because it
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becomes less and less relevant to fix it
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and you know so if they can make it
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irrelevant it's fine and there are still
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many things that I wish they could fix
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about it at the whole show we can talk
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about it some other time
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that's I mean that's the big one from
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way back when but if I have forced to
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come up with an entirely new list like
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you know I can still great but complain
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about services forever like I'm some
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work i will not run out of things to
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complain about it before
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oh no I don't run out of things to
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complain about but I am curious to hear
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what your top four complaints are these
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right it's thing it looks good it
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actually looks different it has about
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this earlier yet it like they they
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refresh the design like a like a
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half-step yes i'll put like it's not
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like a total redesign the system but
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it's like a point five like the of the
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ios7 you know style design which I like
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they they have made many of the fonts a
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little bit heavier weight
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they've introduced into like super-heavy
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bold for San Francisco that's in use in
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in the news app in music to really like
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massively draw attention to headline
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which i don't think i like but we'll see
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we'll see in use but you know overall
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around the system there's like you know
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little improvements to the text to make
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it a little bit thick a little bit heavy
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little bit more bowl to mix makes it
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easier to read for a lot of people
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moving on from text though the big
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change is they've introduced buttons
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that like button which is awesome land
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and windows look like Windows like your
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little with its yeah everything's like
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Natalie's little rounded window like
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things which I like this new style a lot
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you know I've I like this design i like
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that Apple's moving it forward I think
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this will prove to be more usable then
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like the pure ios7 looks because things
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texas started to become more legible and
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this is all good stuff so I i think you
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know i have not actually used the beta
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yet we will see how this is in practice
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but tentatively I give the design
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improvements whatever comes up that i
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can give ya lock the lock screen changes
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in particular likey its Apple finally
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not giving up on but thinking better of
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like their attempt they always wanted to
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say you can have an arbitrary image and
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we will display text on top of it in a
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minimal way there remains readable it's
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really hard to do that without deciding
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having an algorithm kind of like their
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itunes like a lot more thing like should
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be dark in the background noise like
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text should be light in the background
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use dark text and what about they love
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stuff showing through and like it was
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all about usability would say use an
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opaque white background with dark text
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on top of it that's easy to read like
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they don't want to do that so they're
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creeping up on it so they said no we
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we're not even trying to mess with your
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background anymore we're going to put
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these white essentially windows on top
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opaque white you can still see stuff the
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room with the whole vibrancy like but
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it's just it's just more readable it's
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clear what the units are it's clear
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where they begin and end the text on
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them is easier to read because it is
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dark text on a white background always
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it doesn't depend on the thing that's
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behind it and those are all good
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decisions especially if they're going to
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add functionality that screen which they
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are to make it a more straightforward
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you I and to give up on the dream of it
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being like this beautiful text that is
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laced onto your image like minimally as
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a Victor's been sprinkled there with
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Stardust and in practice that what that
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translates to is hard three can't tell
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what the hell's going on
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lock screen now has widgets on it and
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they actually literally use the word
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widgets which I thought was a little
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surprising I it's interesting that what
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they basically did was they took what
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used to be your today view widget or
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notification center with you know
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whatever you call those things and
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they're not kind of sticking those in
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more places which like you know I never
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thought it was worth overcast having a
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two-day view widget because there's no
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one's going into the today we find out
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what's up with overcast today where
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exactly like it's not it doesn't didn't
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think it was that kind of app and I
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personally never used today widgets
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because I don't look at my today view so
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you know it but now they're putting
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those now in the lock screen they're
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putting those on 3d touch when you
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preview a nap so now this is going to
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give way more apps a big reason to have
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Notification Center winner to have these
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witches you know now it's no longer
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notification center with international
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law 280 now it's just your apps widget
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and they can put those in more places
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and as both a developer and a user i'm
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looking forward to this sounds great
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they did a lot of stuff of the lock
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screen to make it so that you don't
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accidentally dismiss it with a touch
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thing I thought I saw someone tweet that
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maybe this is just the beta but instead
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of just placing your thumb over the
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touch ID to like to unlock it that you
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actually have to press the button in you
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can't just tap the touch ID that to get
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through that screen i believe that i
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believe that was ryan jones who said
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that I believe that's correct from
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whatever when it was kind of it's kind
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of unclear as to like you know what
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sequence of buttons you have to hit or
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not have to do that but that's roughly
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correct right and the whole thing where
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you don't touch anybody just raise it up
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the table and i will show you the lock
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screen because they want you to do more
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in the lock screen is going to be more
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information there hopefully you can
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customize it more and so they want a way
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to get to that without you actually
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unlocking it it's kind of weird that
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they have like designed out all the
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delays which are basically bad but the
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people would you know those delays had
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become part of the UI for people who
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would be dealing with their phones and
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they don't want to put the delays back
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in because unlocking your phone real
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fast when you want to pick it up
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actually use it as a great feature they
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still wanted to find a way to let you
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use your lock screen so hopefully we'll
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be able to develop new habits and
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hopefully the sort of raised feature and
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pressing the button will work itself out
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into a situation where you can get into
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your phone as fast as possible but never
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frustrated by accidentally getting into
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your phone and really you want to work
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with your new fancy lockscreen yeah
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and this is a this solves this raised to
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view or raised awake i think they call
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it it's also a problem that i actually
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don't have because I I'm really good at
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hitting the side button in order to see
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my notifications but i am the only
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person him or one of the only people i
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know that doesn't get annoyed by the way
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the new touch ID works and so this is
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clearly solving a problem for the
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overwhelming majority of people wear
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like you said they they mash down on the
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home button suddenly they're right
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through the lock screen and they didn't
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get to see any of the notifications that
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they wanted to see and I do that
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occasionally but generally speaking
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pretty good at avoiding it
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what was interesting though and as a
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potential security issue is you could
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interact with these widgets on the
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lockscreen a pretty pretty interesting
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like you could respond to a text message
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for example right on the lockscreen
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you're letting someone take your locked
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phone and respond as if they're you like
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I'm not quite sure right how this all
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works and you did not this what I'm
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about to describe was clearly not shown
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during the demo but what I would suspect
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is if you ever have your phone in its
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locked and you swipe up and go to the
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camera to take a picture and then you
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want to go to your old pictures he had
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taken previously in order to do or to
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send one in order to do that it has like
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an interstitial if you will saying ok
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enter your passcode or idea what have
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you in order to perform an action like
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that anything that's destructive or that
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involves something leaving the phone i
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would guess that the same sort of thing
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would happen here but without question
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that is not what they showed during the
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yeah and the same thing speaking of the
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widgets like of doing more stuff from
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the lock screen the same kind of
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situation present a problem presents
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itself there's like to make the
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lockscreen more useful you want people
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to be able to do more things but to do
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more things to show more information
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that shouldn't be on lockscreen I don't
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wanna yeah imagine you have these rich
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widgets they could show you all sorts of
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contextual information about your day
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and things that have happened to
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different applications do you want
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anyone else to see that when they raise
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your phone but that's why on the mac a
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lot of the sort of notification center
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should the show on the lock screen
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should not i'm sure the same things will
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be on iOS but it's it's a type of
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granularity even I have trouble deciding
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like going to reach individual app and
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saying do I want Sean lockscreen its
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kind of useful but then what if someone
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comes by my mac and sees a message my
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wife that's like floating in a corner in
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a box that I don't want to
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you know I don't know it's it's
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difficult privacy wise like I think what
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Apple is creeping up on slowly slowly
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slowly is a screen on your phone that is
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not a springboard that is not the big
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grid of icons that has a bunch of
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information that you can customize the
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third party apps can contribute to I
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don't think the lock screen is that
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I think that's another screen android
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users and tell me exactly what screen is
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like going to have real widgets that
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don't have to be the full width of the
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thing that you can customize and have
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sort of like a like a dashboard if you
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will for the phone that that you
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customized to contain all this
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information and that's not really the
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lock screen so i think they'll arrive at
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that eventually but they're not there
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yet and right now there is making
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lockscreen better than what i think is
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yeah a couple other quick hits and then
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there's some other big ones maps looks
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improved the term better the
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turn-by-turn looked a lot nicer to me
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the traffic that instead of doing little
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dots it's like it's an actual highlight
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which looks better in zoom out without
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fighting with your goddamn phone right
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now how many times I thought with a home
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in like seven fingers on the screen
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no I didn't see with our doors yeah I
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completely agree with you
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they also did a very cool things I think
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ways or has already done for years but
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if you're not about to make a turn the
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zoom wait way in and if you're not going
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to make a turn for a while it'll zoom
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way out which I really really like
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they also had some contextual stuff a
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lot of this a lot of today's
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announcements were about trying to infer
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to context for many of the operations
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are doing and it's not just wanted two
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maps and that actually brings me nicely
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to Syria improvements they touted a lot
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of different Syria improvements
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including a serie a p.i and one of the
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things that I thought was most
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interesting about the Serie A p I was
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that they said without saying that this
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is all natural language and kind of
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implied that unlike alexa which I've not
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used to be completely fair but I've
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understood to be and I think one of you
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guys actually said it to be very much
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like a command-line answer that
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exactly so it's not what series is not a
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command line series not just a command
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line where you have to do you know
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subject-verb action or whatever the PSAP
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it's more flexible and tax it except
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right and actually the state of the
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union when they go when
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went through the nuts-and-bolts about
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how that works from a developer
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perspective one of the things they said
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in so many words was hey listen this
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the this same command that you're trying
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to perform could be verbalized in one of
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six different ways and that's on us to
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figure out into extract what the actuals
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if they had the different components of
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assyria command forget they are offhand
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but whatever those components are it's
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awesome allan appel to extract what
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those particular like the verb the
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subject the action whatever are and we
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will give that to you developers so that
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means it's on Apple to parse out how
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exactly is the user structures that
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sentence which assuming it works is how
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I think it should work but that's a big
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assumption that's what the intent system
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is about and that's why it's limited to
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certain kinds of applications i would
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imagine it's because serie determines
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the intent and of like what is this
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person trying to do and then creates a
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structured meshes message for that
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intended action so the intended action
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is some kind of messaging that's the one
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they showed like it's like there's a
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recipient there's the content of the
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message and maybe a few other bits and
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it gives the application that structured
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information the application is no idea
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what you said on you know you can get
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that information from the application
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but because it's an application says I
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handle you know if someone if the intent
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is to message somebody that's the thing
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that I can do so
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Siri will figure out you're trying to
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send a message you're trying to send
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this person you try to send it with this
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app and then will hand off to the app
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here is the information here's here's
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the users intent they want they want to
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talk to you we chat or whatever they
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want to send to this person and here's
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the message and that's why you have to
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have structured like the white can't be
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for all apps like oh I just want to make
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it happen if someone says I want my have
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to do that no it has to be one of the
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intense that they support i don't know
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how many different intensities important
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it's a limited set of like it like say
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five or six so it's right here so they
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announced that the following are
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supported in Serie kit messaging apps
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avoid calling payments ride booking
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photo search and workouts and that's it
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all only those scents and each one of
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those things has a structure of the
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message that the application has to be
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ready to handle and Cirie handles the
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i'll figure out what they said a bunch
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of crap and what they mean is I want you
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application to do this thing and it's
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one of the short list of supported
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things which is its limiting
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because you can't say oh I have had a
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game and I want people to say i want you
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know plz food all the blood are you know
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I challenge John a game but nobody would
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even like something within the world of
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you of your appt like you know up the
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change armor put on the good armor on
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character whatever like you know was in
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Destiny's would understand if you want
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to do this not gonna have integration
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with destiny but yeah like I imagined
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something that it only made sense in the
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realm of your game you can't support
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that because you have there in the
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series a p.i you have no no facility to
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to say what you want you know I want
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people to say this and I want this to
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happen that's not how it works at all so
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this system is much more flexible but
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also more limited and it allows people
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to add series support without knowing
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anything about how Syria works are
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carrying how it works or even carrying
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that they use Siri because an intent can
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be expressed by anything and intent can
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be expressed by hand signal by sending
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an email to yourself by putting text
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messages in by waving your arm like your
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application has no idea how the intent
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outward for the thing to the places you
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i think it's a very very clever API and
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it is better than let's just do the
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simplest thing which you say a bunch of
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then we translate the text in hand off
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your apps that would have been a
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yep couldn't agree more yeah i mean like
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the system as it stands now I I have
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kind of mixed feelings about it because
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you know they didn't basically give me
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anything to use for overcast because
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they didn't create or release one of
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these like intense structures that is
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play media item or control control media
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playback it was a comedian tent is a
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gimme like that's something they will I
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feel like they will do well it depends
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on why it's not there now if it's not
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there now because they just didn't get
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sure if it isn't there now because maybe
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they wanted to protect Apple music I
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hope that's not the reason I that there
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it is possible that the reason i hope
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that isn't it and knowing apple that
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probably isn't it
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no I mean that they would want to
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control like it was that was the case
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you'd be able to have to talk to Siri
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control all media playing in any of the
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native media controllers right yeah I
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guess but yeah I don't know it so I'd
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yes like right now you can say you know
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play this artist name and it just plays
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at music and that's one of the big
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reasons why people choose that music
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over time thinking like a video services
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like they're not competing with YouTube
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at this point but still have this don't
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know you know yeah I mean don't show me
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the latest whatever video on the
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whatever trial on youtube but they have
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an apple TV like they did at tu apple TV
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2 apple TV series we're now you can you
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youtube is part of that Apple TV's
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universal service but not in iOS and
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YouTube is on there as well anyway
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hopefully it's not a political reason
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but technologically speaking a media
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media playback intent or even like
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something i don't know did they have
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like an email and time getting that
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falls into the category message I think
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it's necessary means only for people
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like us it's not legal and kids are
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doing it anyway like this is promising
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theory finally has an API it seems like
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a reasonable good API that they spend
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out to New intense and by adding new
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attempts i don't think there's any
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particular complexity they add is just
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like the intense address categories not
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individual app so they didn't select
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partners any intent that they add if
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they make a media playback intent
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they're not making like an overcast
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intent or YouTube content they're going
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to make one that encompasses huge
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numbers of applications just like they
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have with like a the intense they have
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been out so I think that the possible
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number of useful intense in the world is
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like low hundreds you know right and
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that will cover thousands upon thousands
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upon thousands of apps
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yeah i mean overall i'm i'm very happy
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with how they implemented this API it
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seems like a very smart way to do it
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it is as you mentioned earlier like you
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know because it kind of abstract away
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dealing with the language and some of
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the like some of the details of how the
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person structures their statement it
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abstracts all that away from the
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developers so like it's really easy to
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do things like a bit like instant
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messaging app because you don't need to
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like you know if you say like you know
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send a message to john that i will be
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late and you know if it's like does the
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app need to know that I said that before
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I will be later you know doesn't just
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get I'll be late and the United like an
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abstract way to deal with all that for
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you that's awesome you can blame all the
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stupid bugs I'm like well I don't have a
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choice that this is the intense enemy
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this and thinks the messages this and it
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includes that we all just complain about
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series more yeah exactly but that
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abstracts away dealing with so many you
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know language issues and different
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languages and different constructs
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so it's great for the developers that it
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supports and I hope in the future
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support for developer yeah I completely
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agree with everything you just said in
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and it i want to double down what you
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said a second ago which is it supports
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like 30 some languages or something like
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that which is quite a bit different than
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most of the voice enabled stuff they're
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certainly amazon's if not Google's there
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are a couple of other things that were
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mentioned that I'd like to try to
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breathe through pretty quickly because
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there was another big section in the iOS
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stuff the quick stuff i'd like to
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breathe through his Apple music i
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refresh this was when bozeman st. John
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came up i'm a pronounced that wrong but
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she was awesome children there was one
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small part where she was trying to get a
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bunch of like completely nerdy
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developers to try to the singer/rapper
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like that was part of the joke though in
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the end it's like it was it was a long
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set up for realizing this is not
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happening right and you guys need to
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practice but it was other than that
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which got a little bit cringe-worthy I
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thought she did an unbelievable job into
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my recollection the best first time
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performance of anyone I've ever seen on
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an opportunity but later maybe one of my
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few tweets during the thing was like
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being cooler than a DQ is admittedly a
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low bar because like that she achieved
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it handily like everybody's really i
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mean it's a tough call like it you want
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someone to be up there to show
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enthusiasm for music and it's hard to do
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that them all the time I someone starkly
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treated like once again Apple shows how
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to enjoy music like we all understand
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how to enjoy but like really like if
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you're going to an apple music demo you
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can't really demo it as like a series of
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screens and stuff like the whole point
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of the thing is the music and even
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though the message of this was like you
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can find your stuff more easily whatever
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there's always gonna be a part where
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they show enthusiasm for music and you
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need a presenter up there who was
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clearly enthusiastic about it and bottom
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line is you have to have someone who is
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relatable and even though a lot of us
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are old in the audience like it we can
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relate to any Q getting down and I don't
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think it's not his fault like you know a
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little bit he can't everyone gets old
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run but everyone becomes uncool uncool
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earlier than they were before and it was
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just a silly choice to happen up there
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doing that bring someone else who is
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better at this than you and who is more
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relatable and they did
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hallelujah and it was better yeah i mean
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like it's still a really tough gig
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because like that audience is and that's
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setting is really not conducive to like
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we're gonna talk cool about music and
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we're gonna get all everyone all excited
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about our cool music like that you know
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you can't do that in that room no matter
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how cool you want you can do it by being
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funny like Craig killed at once again
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yeah right i keep you have to be
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relatable to that audience but you can
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do it like you can do it through humor
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you can do with your self deprecating
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humor but I actually think that she was
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a different kind of funny like that
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again that 12 inch worthy part aside I
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thought she was a different kind of
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funny and arguably more funny than
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anyone else on stage and the thing that
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was so striking to me was the that she
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was a different kind of funny instead of
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the dad jokes that have been out that's
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all you can do with your dad
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agree agree that is that is the entirety
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of your repertoire but but it it in a
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way that I've never seen an apple
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keynote be funny her portion of the
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keynote was a different kind of funny
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and even as not a very even as a fellow
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white man like most of the people that
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were always on the Apple Keynote stages
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i really enjoyed this different kind of
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funny I thought it made for a better
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keynote and having this different kind
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of voice and and I would have really
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thought she did an unbelievably good a
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manager as always the trick to being a
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presenter that you have to be
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comfortable with yourself and she was
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and that makes you like even even if
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your presentation doesn't go that well
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if you're comfortable with yourself and
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your role with that that's that makes
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the audience more comfortable and if you
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can express genuine enthusiasm for the
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new things are showing and like as rap
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they're trying to make it nicer to use
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by making it easier to find the stuff
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that you actually care about and
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addressing the idea of like hey get on a
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plane I have no idea what the heck is on
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my phone right so they address that
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directly and said oh now we have a
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special view like I feel like they're
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dressing a once again addressing you
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needs that I feel like I should have
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known a year ago but didn't
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now they've discovered them they
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rearrange things a little bit they've
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added a limited amount
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it features is that enough to make apple
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music better is it still gonna fight
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with people's metadata and give you bad
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versions of stuff and do all that like I
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don't know I hope not but the Apple
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music I still feel like that's the
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albatross around our music snack is for
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the people who should be the biggest
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fans about music music lovers who have
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huge music collections Apple music I
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still think feels like the enemy because
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going to screw with your music in ways
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that you don't understand and it's like
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a giant be strangled you say no thanks
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as opposed to say itunes match which
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have the potential to be just as bad but
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was not just as bad that it would mess
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with your music in fairly predictable
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ways and the upside was pretty big like
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yep i still use itunes matches to love
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it yeah if they cancel itunes match that
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would be terrible because i don't want
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to use you know like we want like photos
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we want we want the the photo style
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refresh we're still waiting for the post
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was refreshing music companies exposed
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to be it but it's a bad job we want all
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our music everywhere and we want to
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control it and we don't want Apple
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screwing with it and messing it up
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so that's perfect segue to the other
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thing I wanted to very briefly touch on
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which is photos and basically it was
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hey we're doing google photos but we're
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doing it on device in it with no mention
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of google any anywhere but that's that's
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expected you and I mean that's basically
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what i saw and what I saw looked to me
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like it was taking all of the best bits
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of google photos like arbitrarily
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searching for handbrake or controller
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likely wouldn't do that demo they didn't
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do the like they said hey will notice
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that there's water and there's animal
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they didn't pull up a search screen and
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say horses like I i continue to think
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that Google do this bed is obviously
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going to the controlling us and by the
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way update on we'd never involved in
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this episode but a small amount of
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follow-up once i uploaded all at once i
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uploaded all of my photos to a photo and
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i typed controller guess what it found
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exactly the controller cricket the
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controller pictures that have found
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before and also the ones that they just
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hadn't been uploaded yet so Google
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photos totally aced the controller tests
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found all my controller pictures and so
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that's going to be my first test with
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you know cuz all my photos already
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uploaded to apples photos you know in
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the cloud thing and when this feature
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rolls out as I assume it will on the Mac
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as well i'm going to type controller and
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I can almost guarantee that it will not
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I'm so it's just a question of how much
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better is going with the
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the Apple there was no demo we have no
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way to judge the fact that Apple is
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doing this at all is great maybe someday
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they can get family photo library by the
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way I was hard but speaking of family
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photo libraries there is new sharing
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features in cloud get that like
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collaboration of notes and everything I
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know something you can use this feature
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for a moment you have a single photos
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library for an entire family and share
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it among them so everyone's going to do
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yep I that was not announced maybe not
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this year or whatever but anyway that's
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me that's a fall event feature or maybe
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that's the next year yeah i mean he
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could be and it scares me a little too
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i'll see how well it works notes but
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anyway you know the photos features like
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Casey said like we're going to try to do
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things google photos did
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we're gonna have the privacy angle that
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we're not going to do it service are
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going to do a client-side Howie into a
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client-side without holding your battery
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presumably they didn't say this I feel
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like they should have
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oh don't worry we won't destroy your
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battery we will do it when it's plugged
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in at night and we won't start doing
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until it's been plugged in for a certain
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period of time we won't start doing
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until you're above eighty percent like
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that is a suit i assume what they're
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doing because i can tell you from seeing
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face recognition bring down many a mac i
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do not want to face recognition running
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on my giant 70,000 photo library even
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just that the band was to download the
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original do the recognition and chuck
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them out of storage again it's just you
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know so i assume they will do this when
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it's plugged in there doing it on device
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instead of in the cloud because apples
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bad cloud and because they love privacy
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i hope they do a good job not didn't
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demo anything to let me know they were
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going to do a good job but good for
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feature that will confuse people who are
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or our pop some UI were always going to
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show you our first like they're all
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right pitch was low but if you get most
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to reach at that will be the first
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choice like we won't say oh well cable
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default apps for things that we know
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that's what I'm really quick before we
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i'm really excited about it in during
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but they were talking about the sticker
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packs specifically and they were saying
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oh here look at how easy it is to build
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these you do need xcode but bid but
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whoever was they say they started xcode
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did a new project from this new template
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and they said okay i'm almost done
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literally all they have done was made in
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project usually dragging the images
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right and that's about it like there's
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no code you can make a code list sticker
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and I'm really hopeful about that but
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i'm also very scared that's just going
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to be Spanish city if you want to say
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you can sell images like I'm sure people
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will just upload pictures of Star Wars
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stuff and try to sell them until
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Lucasfilm me and it's gonna be a
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copyright infringement nightmare
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alright so I a leaving messages behind
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I'm really enthusiastic about it some
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things I don't totally understand i
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think it's really great with jon is
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some people have noticed that you can
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actually delete like the stock mail app
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that comes on iOS yeah and they're like
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in the appstore never yeah and if you
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want to get it back how do i get back to
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ya at the little cloud with the bounty
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facing arrow and there's been no
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official documentation or talk about
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what that means but it could potentially
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mean and seems like it means that you
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can get a different default mail app
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we're not a special about this you know
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but so you delete the mail app you have
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no way to send mail does the mail share
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she did not show up anymore and that's
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the solution right or like you know what
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happens if you ask Siri for a certain
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feature the right wires like you know if
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you believe the weather app can serious
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look at the weather there stuff like
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that like they're like the system isn't
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built for so long to assume that these
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they handle all this I mean whether
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we're going to get the ability to change
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default setting is a totally separate
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decision that like we can we can have
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this system that only exists so we can
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delete the tips app like yeah but like I
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male to lincoln a webview actually no
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alert so there's a tweet by Mike sore
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neck who with more positions show notes
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into the picture and that he said he got
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mail ? you followed a link that requires
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the animal which is no longer on this
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iphone you can restore the apps but
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that's crappy like where it's a half
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solution like yes it's great that we can
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leave the tips app like it so we're all
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for that right but if i delete mail like
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share sheet we already have a solution
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if i delete mail and I go to share a
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link the gmail share thing will be there
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good we're all set there but the default
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it's nice that it's not an error or
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button to fix it be nicer today I
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believe the mail app for a reason
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because i don't use it to do my mail let
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me tell you which one I do use to do my
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mouth and then you come up with a
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protocol or an intense system or
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whatever the decision to make the gmail
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app conforming with this and can replace
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and maybe they have that plan but you
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know it could be that dialogue is coming
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up because we have not detected any
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other application on the system that can
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handle the mail intent or whatever and
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therefore we have to bring this dialogue
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up whereas when you learn about this new
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API in a session later this week you can
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make the gmail app
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be a standard mail application that's
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part of it you have to to be it to
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fulfill the role of a default web
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browser email client messages client or
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whatever you have to be conforming with
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whatever way the system communicates you
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how does it launched you and say you're
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now supposed to be still composing a
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message the mail options whatever the
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hell it doesn't system integrates with
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it once it becomes open the third party
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that has to be formalized so i would say
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that dialogue doesn't tell us anything
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yet other than no current applications
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are able to be the default mail
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application i still hope that we will
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learn that there's an easy way for them
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to do that and that would be great i
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for now but before we go Marco how do
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you feel about the keynote and the state
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of the union which we didn't get to talk
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too much about 1,000 up two thumbs up
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thumbs down how do you feel
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overall I think two thumbs up we're
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gonna see all you know it the there's a
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lot of stuff that they're still there ?
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up like well if that really works well
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everything was a lot of that or like you
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know we're kind of guessing how certain
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things are gonna be implemented so as we
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find out more about the details of these
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things obviously you know my opinion
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might be refined but overall I'm very
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happy with this and overall I think it's
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really good i mean they're the in there
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are some things that we were hoping for
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that we didn't get but I think we've got
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a bunch of really big stuff is gonna be
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really nice so overall for me two thumbs
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John really liked that paints a pretty
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leaks basically no hardware so that
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prepared us for that which is again
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disappointing but you know fine i like
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that in the absence of hardware they now
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folks they had a4 platform structure to
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focus on and they took us three to the
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platforms and the kind of the good
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keynotes especially about software are
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the ones where you find yourself saying
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finally yes that thing that thing that's
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been annoying yes you have addressed it
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and every single one of the sections had
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things they're all like yes good
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finally I am excited to do that that
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isn't normal for a long time and you've
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solved it or I'm excited that you
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recognize like it's fun to see them
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recognize a problem like with the watch
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us thing that they didn't just say oh
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and we tweak things to make it a little
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faster it's like we leave we feel your
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pain we understand we didn't do a good
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job or take another run at it
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and of course the biggest finally of all
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the file system which I'm so tickled the
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day pre-announced even though it's still
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not coming in 2017 until 2017 is
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everybody talked about last week I am
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super happy about that and I guess we'll
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just always patiently for the hardware
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that's going to replace my now
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unsupported mac pro but i think two
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thumbs up I thought it was really good
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the only problem I have with the
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presentation was the thing I was most
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amped about during the keynote was the
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watch stuff and so not that it was
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downhill from there
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but I thought that was the most
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impressive stuff of everything I mean
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I'm sorry I'm just not I don't enjoy the
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filesystem species you do the revamped
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emoji for you have ok but you everywhere
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after you better than three times bigger
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and yea alright fine i tell you're right
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you're right that one choice for I feel
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like I'm on top for again you're arguing
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with me but you're right
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ok but no matter what i still land on
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two thumbs up I thought it was really
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really good and I'm really looking
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forward to it although i completely
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agree with a little bit of what each of
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you said I completely agree Marco that
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it's a lot of assuming this works right
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it but we have no reason to believe it
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won't so so far so good and i agree with
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what John said about it they'll finally
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finally this is fixed I I think you're
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absolutely right you nailed it that and
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that's like a mean way of saying they
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had things that people liked they
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announce things that people like lots
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and lots of things that people like big
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things small things I mean that's what
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they're supposed to do but it's like it
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didn't feel like they were lacking in
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any of the platform's there are tons of
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things that you know good things we just
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had a episode was like that what you see
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is not Santa Claus but they still bring
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a lot of little gifts let you know that
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presently working like Marco said we
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could unwrap them as a doctor in there
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more soon but for now like there are
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many great gifts if something is for
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everybody under this tree of WWDC and in
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a way the hardware getting the hardware
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of the picture just stops us from
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talking about hardware just like all
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right all your platforms have knew
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better things that that is the this is
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the blessing of waiting all year and
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holding all this stuff and holding it in
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for one big burst is that we get to be
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cranky wrapped the mind everything is
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like oh they did have a bunch of nice
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actually I think John if we've learned
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anything from today it's that if it is a
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dog turd that's on that's in that that
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gift box it's actually dr. mojee at
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three times the size
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and it's a happy and it's a very happy
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alright thanks a lot to our sponsors
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this week and thanks for all the live
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listeners 4229 we had a 925 listeners
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seriously yeah so that while that might
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be a record for us and thanks everybody
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and we'll cover a lot more this next
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week so talk to you then thanks a lot
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now the show is over they didn't even
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mean to begin as it was accidental
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it was accidental John research Marco
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and Casey would let him
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because it was accidental was accidental
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and you can find the show know today
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yes byl ISS so that's Katie list and a
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co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our see you
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alright thank you are people that's very
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kind of you to tune in and I'm sorry we
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weren't in the chat room and I'm sorry
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we're basically hanging up on you but we
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gotta go see you later
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I can't believe this worked yeah me
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